Watch What Crappens - #125: Throwing Shade (and Pinot) in NYC; Also, Crazy Momma Joyce

Episode Date: May 1, 2014

Ronnie Karam (trashtalktv.com) is back! Join Ronnie and Ben as they discuss all the craziness that happened on Bravo this week. Starting with Sonja's delusions in NYC, Shannon's bitching in... OC, and Nene's attitude in Atlanta. Plus, there's plenty of talk about Momma Joyce's bizarre behavior and at last -- Southern Charm! Lots to talk about here. Come listen! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappins. Crappins. Crappins. Crappins. Crappins. Crappins. Watch what Crappens? or wherever else you want to search me out. And joining me, perhaps not as always anymore, because he's gotten himself a brand new job and has got work obligations, so we haven't seen him for the past few weeks, but he will be back normally,
Starting point is 00:01:54 Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hello! Yeah, I'm back. It was just a couple weeks of crazy times. Ronnie was just sort of, like, figuring out his work-life balance there a little bit. Well, it's not even just this. It's like all the hours of shit to watch to do this. It's like if you add it up, it's like a 12-hour day.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I know. Tell me about it. Watch what crappens. I mean I haven't even watched Married to Medicine this week, and I just caught up with all those Southern charm episodes because we keep – every week it's yeah this week we'll talk about it this week we'll talk about it but every week we i never do because i have not caught up on it because of all my traveling so we're both sort of like recalibrating here a little bit and while we do that everyone go check out our facebook page facebook.com forward slash watch what crap ends because there's all sorts of funny stuff on there um gossip news just fun people being snarky and funny.
Starting point is 00:02:47 And the other good thing for why you should follow our Facebook page is because you never know when one of us is going to post a nice, juicy items here from the streets of L.A. And yours truly got to see some Bravo Leberties up close and personal on Sunday. Did you see that? Yeah, I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it right now. So it says Candy and Todd.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Here, let me, why don't I tell the story? Which is that basically, that's so bitchy of me. Why don't I tell the story? That was my Heather. Well, I don't know it, so I can make up the story. Ben was out looking for penises, and instead some bus of washed out D-listers showed up, and Ben peed himself and met them all. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I mean, that was – so let me drop my Heather Dubrow attitude for one second and say that I was with some friends, and we were walking to the Abbey. I was with my friend Laura, who's in from out of town, and I was like, we're going to go do Sunday Fun Day. It'll be fun, etc and we're just walking up Robertson and there were Candy and Todd just strolling down the street hand in hand on the other side from Robert of the Abbey just alone just walking down I had no idea what they were doing or where they were where they were going to where they were coming from but they were just you know strolling down the street just Candy and Todd just like maybe you should make a book on that I will it's gonna be called now see now right now we was just walking down the street and there i was with todd and see now it's a beautiful day by kendy
Starting point is 00:04:11 burris and don't forget when she's trying to get a cap mother's love um so then i went into the app and about like an hour and a half later i saw derrick jay walking around in his big old high heels um he was more wearing wedges um and then you know i couldn't bear to look anymore so i i didn't even bother really registering any more than just i saw his heels and i walked away i mean what else was i supposed to do be like oh my god i love your show because I don't. And then, like, seconds after seeing Derek Jay, my friend Laura was like, Ben, Ben, Ben, look. And through the crowd, there I saw Reza. Reza with his boyfriend, fiance, Adam, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:05:00 They were partying. So I guess the gossip is that they're together. And that's basically all the news I have to share i just saw really that's good stuff um reza walks around my neighborhood sometimes i don't know who he knows around here but i see him out there i'll slime it up my sidewalks really that's strange and i got mj across the street we should do a double date you and me reza and mj we could talk about the neighborhood no because we could never do that because the difference between across the street. We should do a double date. You, me, Reza, and MJ. We could talk about the neighborhood. No, because
Starting point is 00:05:25 we could never do that because the difference between me and you is you actually like them. I hate them all. If I see Reza in an elevator, I want to start myself on fire just because I know he'll go too. Yeah. Well, I did see Lily in an elevator. I was in an elevator with Lily and my parents, as I've mentioned many times
Starting point is 00:05:41 on this podcast. Going up and going down we're going to cvs we were going to cvs we're in we're in the cvs elevator and yes that's enough of that story yeah i had enough of that story the second time i heard it there will be no more lily today no more lily stories well we're actually a little bit in a rush because ronnie has a hard out in t minus 53 minutes so yeah let's do it so what have i meant so you have talked to katie and matt over here um the shows have been really good i had to spend the weekend just watching bravo um and it was so much fun everything has been so funny i'm especially loving real housewives of orange, maybe because it's newer.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, Real Housewives of Orange County is, I am thoroughly enjoying it. But I'm also loving New York this season, too. Which one do you want to start with? New York is fantastic as well. All of them, actually. All the housewives that are on right now are really good. Well, let's start with New York, then. So this week on New York, Sonia was delusional basically, and Ramona was delusional.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So that was, that was basically the long and the short of it. Um, I don't remember how it started, but I do know that at one point, uh, like Luann, Sonia, Ramona, and Aviva were all sitting having lunch or something. And, uh, Sonia starts talking about the products that she's working on. And it was just like hilarious and sad to see the level of delusion that she has she's like well you know you know i have my i have my napkins that i'm doing and i've got my toaster that i'm doing and it's a whole lifestyle brand i'm doing flip-flops i'm doing uh bagel cutters it's like a sonja lifestyle and then they're like what's about doing those plastic forks that don't look like plastic they
Starting point is 00:07:23 look like wood but they're really plastic. It was like, I couldn't help but feel like she was like coming up with things off the top of her head. She was just like looking around and saying it was part of the Sonya collection because they're like, but what's the actual product? She's like, I told you already. I've told you guys a million times what I'm doing. Nobody here listens. Nobody here listens to anything. I told you a million times I'm bigger than a toaster.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, I'm bigger than a toaster. Yeah, I'm bigger than a toaster. I'm doing white diamonds. I'm doing sunglasses. I'm doing the things, you know, the corksicles, but it's not going to be like, it's going to have my face in the corksicle. I'm doing one of those. I'm doing Brita filters, except instead of calling it a Brita filter, it's called a Sonia filter because it has a J on it when you put the water in. It's like I'm coming out with Orangina. It's like orange juice, but different.
Starting point is 00:08:03 You know, you've heard of Coca-Cola? You've heard of Coca-Cola? I'm coming out with Coca-Sonia, okay? It tastes very similar, but it's me. This is my, this is me, okay? Coca-Cola. You ever been to Ikea? I actually am building a warehouse of furniture that you can put together, but it's not called Ikea.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's called Sonia. It's like I'm thinking big here. Just send teenagers of rich people to fiddle around with it with some sonia it's like i'm thinking big here just send teenagers of rich people to fiddle around with it with some tape until it's all put together yeah you just get some interns the interns are going to come in and they're going to build all your furniture for you i'm thinking big here singer i'm thinking big here i love that she threw a party or whatever that was she threw a party and was like oh i just want you to know this isn't an intern it's a real bartender like Like, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:08:45 You know, it's like she wants thank you cards for actually paying somebody some money. Exactly. And then later on, you know, she really didn't like Ramona's – she didn't like the way Ramona was coming at her last week when Ramona was kind of like, listen, like, you're unfocused. when Ramona was kind of like, listen, you're unfocused. And I loved how this week, Sonya was like, she thinks I'm a puppet.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I'm not here to make people laugh. I'm not here to make people laugh. When a week ago, her whole thing was like, I'm a comedian. I've always been a comedian. All my years, I've been a comedian. I've been a comedian for 20 years. Like, okay, Bill Cosby. But I'm not here to make people laugh. said i didn't i didn't say i was a good comedian i'm a bad comedian i
Starting point is 00:09:28 don't want people to laugh at me well what was all this stuff about ramona running into her boyfriend's mother or something and like talking to the mother and so he didn't show up on a date with sonia what you know here's sonia's biggest illusion for her to think that because ramona spoke to this guy, Ben's mother, that Ben was therefore turned off. No,
Starting point is 00:09:48 the reason why Ben didn't want to go on another date with you, Sonia is because you're crazy and you're poor. Like if you were crazy and rich, okay, he would go for it, but you're not, you're not bringing anything to the table that he can't already get. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And also you're covered in like sealed placenta on your inside. Like seriously, yeah and also you're covered in like sealed placenta on your insides like who wants to stick their dick in that like seriously get it together with all your rejuvenation because you're killing the entire ocean to do it and i think also it's fair to say that he probably wants someone with a focused business plan he wants the toaster he doesn't want the toaster and the white diamonds and the and the tablecloth spens a very focused man. Yeah. Old people are like collectibles. Just don't get one off the street. You can just replace them.
Starting point is 00:10:31 He'd probably just replace you with another tight-faced crazy person trying to sell toasters on the street. Yeah. Either that or he's gay. It could be that too. I don't know. I mean, I think if you're gay, I don't know how you can stick it in Sonia, right? They've had sex before, right? I don't know. I mean, I think if you're gay, I don't know how you can stick it in Sonia, right? They've had sex before, right? I don't know. I get the impression that she's just trying to create the impression that they've had sex.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Although, she's looking fantastic. She really is. Uh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think that after watching these shows for so long, we get a different view on what fantastic looks like. I mean, she looks fucking crazy. She looks like an extra from V. And we're like, wow, she looks fucking crazy. She looks like an extra from V. And we're like, wow, she looks really good. She doesn't look really good.
Starting point is 00:11:09 She looks horrifying. But comparatively, I mean, I guess. I think comparatively, on the Sonya scale, I think she looks really good. I mean, sure, she may peel off her skin and reveal Lizard underneath. But, hey, I think she looks pretty good for Lizard. lizard underneath but hey i think she looks pretty good for a lizard i saw um i did not see the show but i saw the preview for watch what happens uh i think yesterday i don't even know when it was but cameron diaz was on it to promote her new movie yeah now she needs some sonia eysen i was like cameron diaz whoa i mean look here's the thing with plastic surgery if you're as rich as cameron
Starting point is 00:11:44 diaz and it still looks stupid it's just not ready for prime time yet. That's what I say with, like, hair plugs, you know, because I could use some hair plugs. But if Bruce Willis, as rich as his ass is, or, like, Nicolas Cage, as rich as his ass is, if they still got terrible plugs, it is not ready for my head because they've got all the money you need and it still looks bad. Yeah, I agree. is not ready for my head because they've got all the money you need and it still looks bad yeah i agree i did not see cameron diaz but you know i think we all were expecting you know the the facelift was going to be coming soon and you know she you could tell she was not going to age gracefully she's started she kind of looks like her character in shrek but she's not green and she doesn't have a horn on her head oh but she's got that like rounded um the rounded claymation features of her character she's like a hot gumby god bless her well thank god she's a brilliant actress she doesn't really
Starting point is 00:12:32 i actually love cameron diaz just kidding okay so uh so the other thing is that um wait so so here's the thing so sonia got mad at ramona because ramona called up ben's mom do you think that do you really think do you think Ramona should have done that? And do you think that's really why this guy stood Sonya up? Yes. I think that his mom probably yelled at him and threatened to take away his black card. That's true. Yeah, I guess it's a good point.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You know, she's probably like, you're sleeping with one of my friends? No, I will take your Amex and I will break it into with a hammer because it's made out of stone because it's a black card and I will take it. Do you think Ramona should have spoken to the mom? No, Ramona's horrible. She's going around ruining Sonya's life even more. It's like Sonya doesn't need, look, everybody who has page six knows what's going on with Sonya.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Okay. We know she, I, I, I can't even believe she's still in the house. I can't believe that has not been sealed shut yet from the inside and the outside. But you don't talk about it on TV, and Ramona's going to get a really good taste of it when her husband's fucking around, because you know that Sonia will take revenge, and she will talk about that all over the TV
Starting point is 00:13:40 in every scene. And Luann will, too. Oh, yeah, Luann will too. Oh yeah. Luann will love it. Yeah. I will love it. I can't wait. I'm so sad that the season was done filming when all that shit came out.
Starting point is 00:13:51 My mother always said that you got to find another, you got to find your own friend to talk about the indiscretions about, because you don't want to rely on a man. You don't want to rely on a man to talk about the indiscretions. Sonia, I want to have a serious conversation because, and that's why I'm going to have some wine, but I just want to say that you're losing it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Your house is going to be gone. You need to look for a two-bedroom apartment. I just wanted to say that on national TV that you're going to go broke. And Sonia's like, but have you read the secret? So just like... Have you? I mean, if there's any proof that the secret doesn't work, you're it. I know.
Starting point is 00:14:22 She's like, listen, I'm all set. I'm lighting a candle. I've got an abundance candle. It's all going to work out. I said abstinence. I'm going to let my abundance candle. And who's going to pay for it? It does not count if you're lighting an abundance candle that was bought like five years ago and is now
Starting point is 00:14:37 technically in bankruptcy court. The candle actually belongs to Rex. It actually belongs to the Morgan family. The candle actually belongs to those people that you promised you were going to fund their movie. My mother always said you have to buy your own abundance candle because you don't want to rely on your husband's abundance candle for when you need abundance. Sonia, well, you know, it's not like I don't know anything. Look, this is how it works in business. I mean, it's like with the movie business.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Sonia, the movie business is why you're like $20 dollars in debt yeah i think you know how the movie business movie business is the most unreliable awful business probably next to being a restaurateur like you don't know what you're talking about sonia yeah you need to just back the fuck down yeah um i did like though when when ramona was like yelling at sonia at the spa. I was like, it's incestuous. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's incestuous.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Incestuous. So what happened at the spa? Because I was listening to it at work. So I was listening to it like it was a long record. Like, I couldn't see it. I was just listening to the soundtrack. So I gathered that somebody got a glass of wine thrown in their face so what happened was like i don't know like kristin was razzing uh was razzing ramona a little bit about like meddling and then ramona likes it's like oh you have to calm down and then like took
Starting point is 00:15:56 her wine glass and like threw it at kristin who's in a hot tub but it was like a playful throw but kristin was like what evs and so she took like water from the hot tub and splashed at ramona which was a big no-no since ramona had done her hair to go to hamptons later oh god it was pretty much like the pinnacle of middle school behavior but you know kristen was right though kristen i mean i think yeah you know i i do understand you know what ramona was saying was like you're already wet you're in the hot tub. So I do kind of get that, but it's still... She shouldn't have done it. Well, so what? You don't get to just throw things at people.
Starting point is 00:16:31 You don't get to throw things at people who are in hot tubs and expect them not to splash you back. That's like the first rule of hot tub. You'll get a splash back. Yeah, Ramona, Ramona, Ramona. Well, one thing I wanted to say about Heather is she finally did it. She finally made that fucking comment that all the younger housewives make.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Whenever they get backed into a corner, they make some comment about age. And it's like, bitch, you just got told you were too old to be a model anymore. I don't think now's the time to be calling anybody 70 or whatever. You mean Kristen? She was like, Ramona, doesn't Ramona... Oh, whatever. Yeah, Kristen. Doesn't Ramona know better for someone of 65 it's like oh god so you called her old congratulations like you know you're gonna be there in like five minutes right especially after being on this show yeah so let's see what else happened um heather went over to
Starting point is 00:17:21 carol's place because carol wants place because Carol wants to change up her apartment, which is very cold. She has a very cold apartment. I never realized that before. But she's like, I don't want a kitchen anymore. I want a typical office. The great secret about New York is
Starting point is 00:17:40 no one uses their kitchen. The only pot I've used is a teapot. I haven't been in a tiny kitchen since I was on a plane with my friends who died, so I don't go into kitchens anymore. I don't want a galley kitchen. I want a galley for my book,
Starting point is 00:18:04 The Widow's Guide to Gallies. That I'm going to make myself and not hire a ghost to do it. Ghosts aren't hireable. My contractor, though, he does have a ghost contractor. It's a real ghost. It's a ghost that comes in and carries a candelabra and it's really spooky so i have to leave the house during construction
Starting point is 00:18:33 i'm writing a new book guess what it's about ghost it's about ghosts in the galley It's about ghosts in the galley. Ghosts in the galley kitchen. It's about the ghost of my vagina that I used when my husband died on young people before it shriveled up and died. I want to renovate my galley kitchen, but there's a ghost in there and I can't renovate because the ghost will get mad. He only allows me to use the teapot. The book is called A Still Widow's
Starting point is 00:19:12 Guide to Ghost Vagina Galley Kitchens. Who are you going to call? Carol Radzowil, Ghost Vagina Busters. Carol, and they made it look in the previews like she was saying, I need a facelift. And I was like, God bless her.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You know, good for you, girl. Yeah. And then it was her kitchen. I was like, oh, no. At least the teeth. That's so evil. I really like Heather. Sorry. Sorry, Heather. I'm just being mean to you because i have
Starting point is 00:19:47 nothing else to say that's a sign of immaturity okay i i own it it really it really is okay so i think i mean that was pretty much it uh the other thing was that i don't know you know we saw some of aviva had fajita night which is hilarious i think aviva drescher making fajitas for her family although she probably didn't make them at all. And I liked how her little kid was like, I don't like Harry. I don't like Daddy Harry because he always tickles me. And Aviva's like, well, tonight's going to stop.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And they cut to Harry tickling the kid. Yeah, I think that's pretty much all that happened on that. It is so crazy, that show. And I'm loving every second of it. Oh, I wanted to mention one thing, even though this didn't happen, but I don't know if you guys mentioned it last week, and I just had to bring it up, because I was dying watching the scenes last week,
Starting point is 00:20:35 and the week before, actually. I think it was two weeks in a row, where they showed Heather going to the doctor with her sick son. Okay, I know it's evil that I'm laughing at these scenes, because they really are sad, and the son seems so cute you know whatever but heather is talking about her son dying she's wearing hot pants to the doctor's appointment okay those short shorts like her labia was hanging out of her shorts they were hot pants she's wearing to the doctor to talk about her son possibly dying in five minutes then the next scene she's talking about her son dying again
Starting point is 00:21:04 and sobbing and she's in a bikini i'm like come on heather like let it go and then she got out of a car later talking about her son dying in a see-through dress like come on heather like can we please separate child death from your sexuality please i cannot laugh at both things at one time i i don't you know just because i think i think you're allowed to talk about like child mortality while dressing slutty i don't see anything like that i because I think you're allowed to talk about child mortality while dressing slutty. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think they're mutually exclusive. Take your case seriously if you're wearing hot pants in your mid-40s.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Stop it. And to the doctor's office. Like, no. Come on. Seriously? Seriously. Okay, why don't we move on to Orange County? We're working our way back through the week um orange county was so funny here i think to talk about that have i i don't think i've talked about no because the premiere i was with matt woodfield in the second episode i was with um
Starting point is 00:22:01 katie and now we're here and we've had three episodes of the season it's so good the new woman is so nutty i love her the new woman is so nutty and i love that they actually cast someone who looks her age yeah she's not some idiot bimbo like they've been casting yeah she's not dumb i actually don't think she's dumb i think she's just nutty yeah she's crazy i mean she seems fine when she's around the ladies but that it's like who's afraid of virginia wolf that marriage oh it certainly is i love all their passive aggressive you know like poking and prodding it's not even passive aggressive it's straight out aggressive i mean he's a little passive aggressive but she's just straight even passive-aggressive. It's straight-out aggressive. I mean, he's a little passive-aggressive, but she's just straight-out mean.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Like, she's horrible. And I love how she has the classic bitter housewife explanation for it all. She's like, you know, my husband thinks that all I do is bitch at him, and yeah, all I do is bitch at him, because that's because I want attention and
Starting point is 00:23:03 love from him i'm like goodness lady don't you realize how many like domestic dramas do there have to be before women realize that that is not the way to get someone's love and attention don't bitch at someone yeah you know what men hate more than anything nagging women nagging women i mean even gay guys i hate a nagging woman i cannot take it my best friend broke up with her boyfriend okay and she's like well he finally got sick of me you know he said that he's sick of me like verbally abusing him and i'm like well yeah and she's like what you're taking his side i was like i would have broken up with you the first fucking time you did that get
Starting point is 00:23:39 out of here crazy she hasn't called me lately but seriously like who does that i don't want to be in a relationship with someone who's going to give me shit all the time like yeah i'm not home at night because i'm fucking someone who's not like calling me stupid okay in front of my friends thanks yeah i mean there's like to say that this marriage has a shelf life is it does a disservice to shelves okay it's like not even a shelf it's like not even a ledge i don't even know what what it could be it's like a tiny little like outcropping of a life that it has left and it is going to crumble and die because being famous is going to exasperate everything and she's also like she looks older than he is and he's gonna find some hot piece of ass who doesn't
Starting point is 00:24:22 nag him and it's all gonna be Hell yeah, he's rich as hell. He doesn't have to be with her. He can go find some little 15-year-old in two seconds. Next thing you know, she's going to be like Mrs. Havisham in that big mansion, spending all day sending the chandelier up and down. It's also not helping their marriage that Southern Charm was airing right after their show. Oh, yeah. He's seeing all these guys his age, 21 year olds and it's suddenly looking a
Starting point is 00:24:46 lot more normal and we already saw the previews with him saying i don't want to live i can't live like this anymore i was like oh no the difference is that the gentlemen on and i use that word loosely but the men on southern charm can bandy about you know references to tip o'neill and use the word august as an adjective and that's like no one bats an eye orange county would be like oh what you know it's like let's talk about going to sonic you know what's the parlance yeah i do not like him i do not like him i do not um anyway we're jumping ahead so uh orange uh, Orange County though. Um, I love the Batty New Woman. I also loved, so this, this episode, um, I think most of it
Starting point is 00:25:32 had to do with Heather having a stick up her ass. Oh gosh, Heather, she was on a rampage this, today, this week because she overheard Tamra telling the new girl shannon that heather has a stick up her ass so what does what does heather do she retaliates by outing all of tamra's baby anxieties to eddie oh god it was such a bitch move it was amazing it was such a bitch move and i don't know what heather's thinking with that like you're gonna go up against tamra you've seen this show before right because she will not let up until your whole life is just pure misery yeah but heather's a formidable opponent i mean even vicky even vicky said that remember when when when tamra's like yeah i'm gonna go like have a sit down with heather and vicky's like oh you know you're gonna lose right
Starting point is 00:26:19 yeah and they're both like yeah we can't win with that because they don't know words i mean they're they're saying like they can't win a word fight with somebody who knows how to speak i mean they say say things i'm trying to think of something vicky said yesterday it was just so stupid like um i'm motivating i'm motivating i was just so something so wrong i was like come on don't the cameramen like at least help them out him out? Let him do it again? Come on. So many indiscrepancies. Oh, just so embarrassing. And yeah, Heather, Heather may know words, but she's just a dumb bitch, just like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I mean, she just married Richard. She's also, I mean, she is, I mean, she really is scary and evil. evil and uh i i did like that when tamra and heather finally sat down heather just did not seem to understand where this stick up the ass thing comes from like when she says what was the thing that she said she goes how can you say that i'm like particular and then when i correct your grammar like all of a sudden that's bad like i didn't understand the logic i'm like that is you being particular i'm so glad you said that because I didn't get that either. I think what she was... I'm so picky, but then I criticize your language and I'm a bitch.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I'm like, what? No, I think what she was trying to say was that they were being picky by making fun of her correcting the grammar. I think that's what her logic was. It didn't make sense to me, though. Well, I mean, what Heather said is true in a way when she said look i am who i am i complain all the time i'm kind of a snob whatever that's who i am i can't not be that yeah she's for you which is true i mean the only reason that tamra was nice to her in the first place is because she was going against vicky last year right there was no secret there she never
Starting point is 00:28:00 seemed to really like heather anyway she ditched her ass the second vicky was nice to her again i mean they did it in mexico she left her with gretchen i mean that's the worst line ever for that bunch of yeah gretchen you're stupid you're stupid how can you like someone like heather she's just horrible she's just not a very humorless humorless humorless is the word she's just a miserable lady and it was so funny watching terry which he's he's like what's up babe what are you thinking she's like i don't want to say it because i know that you're just gonna call me overly sensitive he's like i promise babe i'm not gonna say that she's like well everyone thinks i'm too judgmental and blah blah blah
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Starting point is 00:30:42 starting January 29th. Join Wondery Plus on the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. And not say anything. Well, he must have said it a zillion times. But, I mean, how do you tell your partner, like, listen, honey, you're a horrible person and no one wants to be around you. Let's try and change everything about you. But that needs to happen. he's gonna too i i'm going to say so so the thing that seemed to sort of start
Starting point is 00:31:10 this all off was at the beginning of the episode at shannon's dinner party heather like uh shannon was trying to tell a story and vicky and tamra kept on talking over it so so heather was like would you let them finish you know and she did that like thing with her fingers like that that austin powers you know like or whatever or whatever it is, like, you know, like, be quiet thing. Yeah. Which I hate. So when Heather did that, like, I understand why Vic and Tamara are like, oh, my God, this bitch, this bitch. But on the flip side, I have to say, also, I would have gone nuts if I'm trying to tell a story and people keep interrupting me over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And that has actually happened to me. I once went to a brunch very recently with three friends who I consider close. And I got talked over a lot. And furthermore, no one asked me a question at all about my weekend. And I had had a really interesting, fun weekend. And I was ready to tell stories. But I also didn't want to be the person who's like, hey guys, look what I did. I was like, let me just see if any of them even asks me if what i did this weekend and no one asked me a
Starting point is 00:32:09 single thing and it um i have to say it's actually like very hurtful when that happens so i did empathize with heather a bit during that moment as i did empathize with the other side about herb doing the like like thing but um at the end of the day though there's really no winners because she's humorless and condescending and they're dumb and classless so what can you do yeah vicky is at least entertaining but tamra oh i mean if tamra proved that she's not worth nothing in her own tv show then nothing will prove it because that was just the biggest waste of space ever tamra trying to like just be a normal person. She has no personality.
Starting point is 00:32:47 She has nothing to say, nothing to do unless she's being a total C word to somebody. So I'm glad that this new chick is showing up next week because Heather has been, I mean, not Heather. Tamara's already been all over the gossip rags talking about what a whore this woman is. Yeah, they definitely needed to bring her in. And what I'm trying to wonder is this okay so we've had three full episodes without the new crazy chick which means that it's like we're giving three episodes without her because shannon's craziness is so big that we have to give it three episodes to let it sort of flower and it's going to bloom over the
Starting point is 00:33:19 over the course the rest of the season or is it a situation that the new chick was she going to be like a friend of, and then she was so crazy and awful that they're like, you know what, we just got to make her, we got to make her a full-time cast member. Well, maybe, but they're giving her the full housewife treatment and the way that they're meeting, you know, that she's like, I'm just here to do an ugly sweater party for charity.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Like that whole fake setup is not friend of housewife. Because normally they'll just like be in the background at some parties and yeah exactly i think she was i think they're doing i'm trying to remember the last person they did this with but sometimes it usually is episode four when they introduce the new one sometimes i don't know lately the past few seasons is sometimes it's episode two but it's usually not this late the last time i think quinn quinn was introduced quite late in her tenure yeah i'm not sure but this this lady looks crazy and i love when they show the clips of the entire season and they show that whole meltdown with all the ladies and shannon losing it i think it's going
Starting point is 00:34:15 to be so good i think she was really good casting this shannon chick so let's just wait to see with these other girls the season the chemistry is right that That it's like that, that, that, that intangible element that makes certain seasons great and certain seasons boring. The, the, the chemistry is right where you just sort of, you just are happy to watch these women doing stupid things, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:35 like you don't, there doesn't even have to be a fight because their, their chemistry and their craziness is like carrying the show. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. There haven't been any fights and it's been fun the only part that's been tedious for me is watching them watching that heather argument so i was like oh you know i like
Starting point is 00:34:52 heather would be self-aware enough to say i'm sorry sometimes i'm a bitch i don't mean anything personal by it the end yeah the the heather argument i didn't mind uh i'm i'm finding brianna to be um i find her to be tiresome now i'm like i don't care about brianna anymore i think that she has shown bad judgment with ryan and therefore her word means nothing now and like brooks brooks is he's definitely a low life but you know though brianna you've also married a low life so shut your mouth with this and move off to oklahoma and be off the show already yeah and that she's so sticking up for her husband after all that stuff. Like, oh, he's a veteran.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Oh, okay, so that makes everything okay. He's also got a gun. I feel much better. Thanks. Thanks for clearing that up. The only good part about Brianna is that she makes Vicky scream, and I love when Vicky screams. I don't remember even what Vicky yelled this time, but she was something.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He's not abusing me! I have never been abused! He does not not abuse me he's not abusing me oh when she when she amps up oh that's the best it's so yeah well mom you've been in two you've been in two abusive relationships and now you're in another one i mean listen your husband almost beat up ayear-old lady for putting her feet on the couch. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. You're not one to throw stones. Unless you're in a Lifetime movie and you're being chased by an abusive husband and you've got stones to throw and you try and hit him.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Otherwise, shut up. This may serve as a little bit of a transition here, but I think that Nini has a lot to learn from Vicky because Vicky has been around since the very beginning. Okay. She is, she is, and it will always be the star of OC. She is the face.
Starting point is 00:36:31 She is the many faces of Orange County. And she is like, sure. She has become, she has like an, an, an inflated ego, you know, where it's like, oh, wow. You have to like, you have to like be nice to Vicky in order to make it in this circle, blah, blah, blah, blah. But you know what though? wow, you have to be nice to Vicky in order to make it in this circle, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But you know what, though? Vicky plays by the rules, and she's fun to watch, so she really is. Nini, on the other hand, as we saw on this latest episode of the Atlanta reunion— She's just miserable.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Oh, she is terrible. And you know what, Ronnie? I thought of you immediately when Kenya said to her at one point, the moose has spoken. I was like, oh, snap. Someone's been listening to Watch What Crappens. Hell yeah. You know she does because we don't really even make fun of Kenya that often. That's because Kenya has kind of redeemed herself this season. I mean, she obviously has transgressions, a.k.a. last week when she brought up a megaphone in Portia's face and instigated the hell out of her.
Starting point is 00:37:27 But the truth is that Nene is really awful. Nene just sits there with that look on her face. She just can't believe she even has to be here. This is ridiculous. She's so busy. It's like, bitch, is central casting calling? Because there's another extra role open for you tomorrow okay get over here hey hey nini i hear there's a role in sonia morgan's new movie that maybe you should
Starting point is 00:37:49 audition for well you know the thing is so there were two big things that happened on this episode we'll talk about the second one first which is that nini and cynthia uh we we got into their their friendship falling apart you know i thought Cynthia seemed very sincere, and she seemed like she was someone who was hurt, and she was, like, tortured by this situation. And Nini just had this look on her face, which was also obviously a self-defense, or not a self-defense, just a defense mechanism. You know, like, she couldn't care less. Like, she just couldn't be bothered with the bullshit that Cynthia was saying.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And at one point, like, it seemed like Cynthia wanted to hash it out. And Nina's like, well, I'm not going to talk about it. I'm not going to talk about it right here in front of everyone. I don't, like, I don't owe it to anyone to talk about it here. And first Andy chimes in. He's like, well, he was sort of like, you kind of do. It was his way of being like, you know, I'm the boss and I pay you to do this. So you better talk about it right now.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And then Kenya actually was a voice of reason was like you have a friend that's right here that is like crying and is reaching out to you and you're just turning your shoulder to her so okay i hate coming to the defense of nini leaks because she's the worst but what i think the undercurrent of all that was what she said was cynthia and her made up and everything was fine and they were still talking and then the show came on and everybody was tweeting at cynthia that she should be more mad at nini so then cynthia got all mad again for no reason so that's true and the other thing is that cynthia is now suddenly hanging out with kenya who she knows is like a sworn enemy of nini and well that's a no-no so she's not going to say that you know she's not going to say that because it'll make her look even more petty than usual but i'm with her that cynthia is nothing but a user she was only nice to nini because she needed to
Starting point is 00:39:42 be friends with somebody on that show she has no personality so she chose the most powerful one and did whatever she wanted and then when she found kenya because kenny is now the most powerful one on that show i mean the ratings for that show are bigger than they ever were before kenya came on and everyone knows that kenya knows it she's like i leave or she leaves like so c Cynthia just switched right over to Kenya. So as much as a horrid human being that Nini is, I wouldn't sit there and grovel with Cynthia either. Her husband was acting like a little bitch. Cynthia never did anything to reign her husband in.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And she should fucking man up. And the only reason she's got any kind of confidence right now is because she's sitting next to Kenya. Well, okay. So here are my thoughts on that. Yeah, I understand what you're saying that since like everything was squashed and then all of a sudden all the things like unsquashed but you know what though nini can't act like she is like the master of the master of the squash okay because i am sure if we went back to various reunions this has happened with nini many times where the shows have aired and then she gets
Starting point is 00:40:47 pissy and she claims that things are squashed and then she writes shit in her blog. She writes really nasty shit in her blogs. So Nini's not innocent in that. That's true. When she attacks Cynthia for that, she should also
Starting point is 00:41:03 realize that she too is writing nasty things on her blog. Well, yeah. And then when Cynthia said that to her, she's like, yeah, well, I just put my feelings in my blog. How does that make it okay? You're still an effing bitch in your blog. Well, here's the thing. I don't understand. I don't like when Nini hides behind this thing.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I'm just saying what I'm feeling. Well, maybe Peter, as big of an idiot as he is, maybe he was saying what he was feeling. And that's the thing that Nini's arguments only work – they only apply to her. They don't apply for other people. There's no consistency in her arguments, which is why even though I hate Peter, even though he's the biggest lowlife and he shouldn't be getting involved in all this bullshit. And even though I do think Cynthiaynthia does she is an ass kisser um i still think nini is in the wrong also nini has eyeballs and ear ear holes and she should have over at least the past two or three seasons been able to realize that cynthia is obviously kissing
Starting point is 00:41:57 her ass and she should have seen that for what it was and she shouldn't be so surprised that this is happening yeah yeah agreed with that i mean i just i just everyone's wrong so i don't want yeah i don't want cynthia to like come off clean here because i think she's just a horrible person and she hides behind this like nice personality but yeah nini is the worst and all she's done all season long is bitch and moan about people be rude have that stupid she bitches and moans she bitches and moans while simultaneously promoting herself as a new calm nini leaks who um has taken the high road in various situations like i didn't let nene out i didn't let nene out and then of course nene comes
Starting point is 00:42:37 out she's like well i can't help it what nene says like that's bullshit too yeah you're just crazy yeah she's awful i hope she just goes and you know what she's at least fun and candy said something that was like a totally valid point to nini which was she's like see now sometimes phaedra she gets mad at me and i'm like it wasn't a big deal but then like it's a big deal to her so i'm like oh okay i'm sorry and then you're like sometimes you just have to say sorry and nini is like well i don't have to and it's like oh okay yeah nini is on her own planet and it makes me crazy that she's on dancing with the stars i hope she does not book another damn thing because she she's still on dancing i don't know i don't watch that shit i would be so happy but just the fact that she booked it you You know what I mean? Just the fact that she was on it.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Because that'll last her another two years of bragging. Yeah. And I just want her to go away already. We know she's not a real actress. I mean, anyone who's watched what she's done, she's awful. So she's not going to make it there. But what else? Amazing Race?
Starting point is 00:43:41 I mean, Jesus Christ. Well, actually, I would like to see her on Amazing Race, actually. Do you not know English, motherfucker? Can you imagine? She's like, excuse me, I only fly business. Well, it's not, you can't
Starting point is 00:43:58 actually fly business on Amazing Race. Do I look like I am on the Amazing Race? I'm on the NeNe Race. Sorry, that was a terrible NeNe impersonation. I don't really have a NeNe impersonation. But I want everyone to know that when I do that impersonation, I put my hand on my hip. I got all sassy over here, even though I'm sitting here alone. I don't have an impersonation.
Starting point is 00:44:16 But every time I hear my faucet dripping, I think of NeNe. Or a horn honking outside. Or a cat getting its tail stomped on. Random, stupid noises that make me want to poke my eyes out. NeNe. or like a horn honking outside or like a cat getting its tail stomped on like random stupid noises that make me want to poke my eyes out mean yeah i only have my candy and that's obviously as we know candy is just a terrible impersonation so speaking of uh because she does she likes to click too um so speaking of candy so the big thing that really came out of this reunion was that mama Joyce came on and man was this woman,
Starting point is 00:44:48 all sorts of crazy. And like everyone was sitting around laughing at her. I thought it was like mortifying and awful. And it was not funny. It was like, they looked embarrassed. It was embarrassing because this woman, I couldn't tell if she was on something or she was just trying so hard to have her moment.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It was, you know, just terrible. She was drunk and on something, I think. And just she's crazy. Yeah. But yeah, she was just. I think she's drunk on things. You tell me nothing. I got money in the bank.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I got money in the bank. I got money in the bank i got money in the bank i got money in my own bank and as someone put on our facebook page that money is from the life insurance policy from when her son died so maybe you should stop like rolling your head around and snapping your fingers like you actually had a job during that money and stop bragging that you still got money from when your son died because that's like the worst most tacky fucking thing i've ever seen come on yeah you i i don't think you can simultaneously say you know what like my mama said to me like you will not go on welfare you are going to find a way you're going to work to put your kids heck of your kids a life which is totally excellent but then you can't say that and then also then be like well where's my
Starting point is 00:46:05 paycheck from candy and be like i don't like todd because then i'm not gonna get my paycheck it's like you're either like you're either work hard and do everything yourself or you're like okay just give me a paycheck but you can't be both also her daughter was famous when she was like 14 yes give me a break like you've been supported for a really long time. And then I love that Candy, I mean, it was kind of, Candy's probably going to get shit for this for the rest of her life, but the fact that she actually did
Starting point is 00:46:34 kind of tell her mom off, like, don't pretend I don't give you money, you know. You was giving me $700 a week! Yeah, but you were spending it all on gambling and taking credit cards out of my name it was gambling and home shopping network which i love oh my god and take credit card numbers out in her name that is illegal that is so wrong i feel so bad for poor candy if i if i had to realize
Starting point is 00:46:58 what i'd be seeing just a few hours hours after seeing her roll down the street i would have given her i've been like candy i've been like see now riley like you guys gotta get away from mama joyce now see now she's been like yeah mama joyce wasn't even fun to where i like have a lot of stuff that i want to make fun of her about she was just so gross and embarrassing and is it true that she got her own show that can't be true no i don't think so i mean i think she's angling for one obviously she's going to be on the spin-off show with the wedding but like honestly when when they're talking about like uh todd's mother and mama joy's with a big smile on her face she's like oh she called me a bitch i was like oh my god she's like, I almost reached over the table and grabbed her. I'm like, oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:47:47 You are crazy right now. Like, lunatic. Like, scary eyes. Like, you're so proud of all this behavior, but that's why everyone hates you. And she's like, no, everyone loves me on the Twitter. It's just that those people on the Twitter, they got mad when I said. What was it? Setting up Todd. That was the Twitter. They got mad when I said... What was it? Setting up Todd.
Starting point is 00:48:07 That was the only thing that got people mad. Yeah, and I love that Andy's like, Oh, really? But this was part two of the reunion, too. Okay, this one got me really infuriated right from the get-go because fucking Andy is the biggest pussy I've ever seen. He makes me crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:22 First of all, that big fight. Why is it okay for kenya to have a bullhorn in someone's face and be like sticking a pointy thing in their face and he doesn't say anything he just sits there and laughs at it yeah like it's the most hilarious thing then that girl gets a smackdown he's like what happened what happened we don't condone violence. Bitch, please. You set these women up to tear each other's throats out week after week and ruin their fucking lives. And then you sit there with your cross-eyed, one half open eyed saying, oh, we don't condone violence.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Fuck you. You are the lowest of the low because you set all this shit up in the first place. Gross. I hope he gets his ass kicked i hope all the abusive housewives come on and just beat the shit out of andy he still deserves it it'll happen someday you know i i also thought it was funny when mama joyce was talking at one point she said something like like i don't have a problem grabbing someone's wig or something like that and then andy was like not that we condone violence i'm like shut up andy jesus christ here shut up already i know that no one else got fired for that adriana
Starting point is 00:49:32 adriana is that her name she didn't get fired from real housewives of miami to miami for that no one else for that that's just bullshit well the entire cast of my but we don't know we don't know if Porsche is fired, though. So we'll see. Oh, well, you know, Peter. Peter, he kicked the car. He wasn't fired, you know. But that's because of his artistic expression, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Yeah, because it's different if it's a car. It's like a taxi. So it's like not even a real car. Yeah, last time I checked, no one was trying to drive Porsche. I mean, yes, wait, they were. Well, you know, Peter, he has a megaphone on his back because he loves music. Kenya, oh, and I love that Kenya, I think this is, I'm
Starting point is 00:50:10 getting them all confused now, but I love that Kenya was like, I think it's wrong to call any woman a whore or a prostitute, and then the second she gets into it, she's like, you stupid whore, you're just a stupid whore, trophy whore, no one watching except your vagina, you slag.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like, Jesus. I know. I loved how Kenya, who, like, provokes Portia, gets in this fight. And then immediately she takes this high road where she's like, well, you know, we represent a certain gender and a certain race. And, like, it should never have to come to violence. Like, grown women should be able to settle their things. It's like, don't talk about being a grown woman when you've got a bullhorn in someone's face, you know?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Then when Phaedra's like, oh, be quiet, you bound lady. I'm not, not Portia, I meant Phaedra. Yeah. Well, Andy, I can tell you one thing. I'm gonna take a bitch down the street by her throat. She never says one thing about me.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It's like, oh, no. Get Mama Joyce out of here, please. Mama Joyce was a disaster. She's like, the only thing that I, the reason I lost my way is because of stress. I need to be stressed more. I'm like, oh, gosh. Please just get off our screens you're a terrible woman and you have a wonderful daughter and you are ruining her life i know candy's so
Starting point is 00:51:31 sweet i just really have my fingers crossed that todd doesn't screw candy over because i kind of have a feeling like one point mama joyce said was uh someone brought up that other guy candy was with the mama joyce is like yeah and he told Candy he had two children, and then it turned out he had six. So, put that in your bike. Or whatever she said. I was like, well, that's a good point. Isn't that the guy who got killed?
Starting point is 00:51:57 I think so. AJ, yeah. Oh. So, wait, let's, we only have about 10 minutes left. So, we're not going to talk about marriage medicine this week, right? Because I didn't see it. And you said there, we didn't,
Starting point is 00:52:06 there was nothing, nothing amazing happened on it, right? Not really. I mean, that show really just needs that heavenly's daughter to go tell everybody off. Cause that little bitch is on a roll. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I haven't, I, so I didn't get to watch this week because I spent my free time catching up on Southern charm because I kept on kept on saying every week, I've got to catch up on it. So I've caught up on it. And I watched the reunion. Did you watch the reunion? Yes, I did. I watched all of Southern Charm.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I got caught up with all of it. The reunion was a pretty civil affair. There was truly no tension. And everyone was just sitting around chuckling. But wasn't it lovely? Watching a show, first of all, the reunion was fun. And it wasn't fighting yeah it was just fun because it was funny yeah and all the people on that show are genuinely friends they're not put together to be to pretend to be friends yeah they're all actually friends with each other i mean that's nice to see exactly
Starting point is 00:53:01 and um again i mentioned this earlier i was like shocked at one point you know whitney referred to thomas being a uh a politician like tip o'neill and then like like i think like shep and the other guy started making jokes about tip o'neill and i was like what what world is this where like it's a bravo reunion and there are like jokes about tip o'neill happening and everyone understands what's going on like this is craziness and then later like when t rav was explaining the lincoln like about lincoln and the south and this and that it was just like there was just such a they're just like the the level of education amongst these people was so much significantly higher than any reunion that's ever been on bravo it was um it was ghastly it was hilarious and didn't even know what to do with himself he kept trying to start shit and no one would fall for it because they don't even care they're friends with
Starting point is 00:53:53 each other they don't care what that little queen thinks yeah he's like yeah but katherine what did it feel like to hear them talk about the thing and she's like well i mean i was more mature now i'm more mature and anyway and they just kept going anyway and talking about their own thing yeah and he would repeat again but catherine didn't it hurt your feelings to see hear that i'm saying and she's then they're like ignoring stupid andy i thought it was amazing it's like you finally get some people with an education and he has nothing to do yeah he has nothing and he was just like sitting there over tanned in his seersucker suit.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I actually did think it was funny that he made a comment about how the cast slurs a lot because, my goodness, Catherine, of all people, she is the biggest slurrier of all time. I was shocked she wasn't slurring more on this reunion
Starting point is 00:54:39 because all season long she's like, you know what? Why are you saying that? Don't you love me? I love you. No, like don't you love me you know i love i love you no i didn't see whitney so britney well i mean i yeah i slept with whitney now you know i love that she looks so much better bigger really i thought she was pretty i thought she was a knockout when she was skinny i don't want to fat shame her but i thought she was a knockout when she was skinny actually i mean she just had a baby she'll probably be that skinny again but i think she looks so pretty bigger although that was that
Starting point is 00:55:13 a weave i don't know that wasn't working but um otherwise yeah she's just so dumb and like has nothing to say like what do they talk about at dinner she just sits there like a lump i know i actually i actually really like t-rav and i actually find him that he's actually pretty smart it sounds like he does make terrible decisions but he seems like a bright guy and she at least from what we've seen on the show for the past few episodes she's so lacking in substance from what we can tell i don't actually understand why he has uh well he's so honest that he pretty much says it. I mean, he said it pretty much flat out.
Starting point is 00:55:49 He's like, well, it's time to have a baby. Saw how to baby. She got pregnant. I was like, wow. Nice. He's like, oh, the love. And even in the reunion, Andy's like, well, what about, remember when you told the story at that dinner party about the love of your life that got away? And, you know, Catherine was sitting right there.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And, you know, you really got choked up if you talked to that lady. And he's like, no, but it still hurts every minute of every day thinking about that woman who got away. And, like, goes on this whole other depressing thing when he just had a baby with this teenager. And Catherine's like, yeah, well, we're in love now, so it's okay. Yeah. And she kept going, yeah. Yeah. like, yeah, well, we're in love now, so it's okay. Yeah. And she kept going, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah, so, like, you know, now I'm with her and she's the mother of my children, so there's that. She's like, yeah. What I don't understand
Starting point is 00:56:36 is why Jenna was a cast member on this show. I mean, she does, she did nothing all season except rock a ridiculous hairstyle, which looked even worse
Starting point is 00:56:44 on the reunion for some reason. Like, I couldn't think that hairstyle could look any worse, and it did. And she said two things on the reunion, which was basically that her sugar daddy broke up with her, and she's running out of money. And that's it. Yeah, she looks like Edward Scissorhands with Chipmunk, like the Chipmunk version. Yeah. Why wasn't she – you know what? She actually sort of has like a weird punk version of a Tina Turner haircut, you know, which doesn't look good on a white woman.
Starting point is 00:57:07 But she was trying so hard to to just say anything, because, of course, there's not going to be any questions for her except the sugar daddy thing. She didn't do anything all year. And so she was trying to get in on everything. And it was just so sad. I know her personality for you, little Jenna. sad. Poor personality free little Jenna. I don't know why Danny was not a cast member, or Catherine for that matter, because they were far more interesting women than Jenna and they were far more involved in the stories
Starting point is 00:57:31 that were happening. Because it seems like the big shot of this one was Whitney. It seems like Whitney produced it with his friends and so he asked all his friends and he's not going to ask Catherine. Oh yeah, that's true. I was so bummed that Pat wasn't able to come on to the, uh,
Starting point is 00:57:46 reunion because, you know, I just love Pat. I do think that she is the best part of the show and that she needs more and more screen time. Um, she's a horrible human being. She's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:57:56 No, I think she's racist. But yeah, I mean, she's funny, I guess. Um, but I grew up with so many women like that.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And I'm like, Oh God. Yeah. Congratulations on fucking your way to a big house lady. Like you've ever done anything. she's funny, I guess. But I grew up with so many women like that. And I'm like, oh, God. Yeah, congratulations on fucking your way into a big house lady like you've ever done anything. She's like, oh, well, you know, let's show ordinary. Oh, these people, everything's so ordinary. Like, you got everywhere with your cunt. I think you shut up. You've never done anything in your life.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Shut up. Oh, my God. I love her so much. I love her for being judgmental. She's like, I just had greater aspirations for Whitney than being in food service. But maybe that's just me and my old
Starting point is 00:58:33 fashioned ways. Is this Nogahod? Yeah, go sit and enjoy that house that someone else bought. Loser. Get out of here. No, no. She's the best. She's an asshole. I do love that Andy was like, well, the real star of the show isn't here today. I was like, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:58:52 He's such an asshole. And he doesn't even know it. He's like, ooh-hoo. I want to make a montage of just terrible, stupid Andy faces. I'm going to do that. I'm going to make a gif of just stupid Andy faces where he's caught cross-eyed or looking off into the distance when he's supposed to be paying attention to what people are saying. Anyway, I don't mean to get on him.
Starting point is 00:59:13 But yeah, you know that mom? I guess I'm supposed to think she's funny, but I think she's an asshole. I don't like her. No, she is an asshole. But that's what I love about her, that she's a judgmental asshole. And I love it. It's just the best um i also think it was i was shocked as andy was that shep had gone to a business school at vanderbilt i mean
Starting point is 00:59:32 that's like what i can't believe he got an advanced degree let alone a business degree let alone at a good school i'm shocked well i guess the good school it's like he is you know scion to a family because yeah you just get they just have a pass for everything he probably never even showed up and they handed him a diploma but shep you know i really like shep a lot you know because he's totally he also is like everyone else that like andy was trying to kind of like bust him about not working he's like yeah i got some funds yeah i'm uh over educated and under motivated ha ha. And I'm like, yeah, good for you. Yeah, why should he do anything? If I had eight
Starting point is 01:00:07 zillion dollars, I probably wouldn't do anything either. Hell, I don't have any money and I barely do anything. Yeah, I think Shep lives a great life. You know, he goes hunting. Yeah, good for him. He goes hunting and fishing and... And hunting and killing and killing and hunting and killing and hunt. Hunt, kill. Kill, hunt. It's like, jeez, do you have any
Starting point is 01:00:23 other hobbies? And by the way, it's funny because if you ever wanted to know, like, is it true that confidence can make someone attractive? Shep is the perfect example because you look at him and you're like, oh, he's cute. He's got this cute southern,
Starting point is 01:00:38 you know, rich boy look about him. But if you really look at him, he's actually not attractive at all. He's like lanky. He's got odd posture. He's got big posture he's got big old teeth he like so many people would actually find him to be really um very unattractive but because he's like yeah very you know shep is a darling he is a darling a total darling but i
Starting point is 01:01:00 would never open it open up a hot dog stand with him. He has this little way that he squints his eyes and he's always smiling. He's just a happy guy. I think that's what's attractive about him. He's just confident and happy and rich as fuck. Yeah, and I do like that he's pretty much out there with his game. He's like, so you want to make out now? You want to make out?
Starting point is 01:01:21 You want to make out? Remember an episode or two ago when there was a big fight at t rav's place and uh like it was between like katherine and t rav and the other guy what and they just there's a huge fight going on and he just sneaks like right into the service bar at the server bar and it's just making out they just cut to them making out i was like that is the best that is amazing i'm like i love the show i thought it was great it made me want to go to charleston and there was a new york times article that andy referenced where it did say people were just shocked and horrified by it but i'm telling you i actually don't i think it makes
Starting point is 01:01:57 charleston look wonderful i think it makes charleston look like a place where you go and have fun and they're pretty people and there there's nice food and nice restaurants and nice bars, and I want to go. Well, those people are really fun in the cast. I really like that they're friends, but I love that they can say such awful things to each other. Okay, your best friend was the third one that slept with the woman who's pregnant with your baby, basically,
Starting point is 01:02:23 or about to be pregnant with your baby and you're just like well all right i guess i'll talk to her that would have been a five season storyline on any other stupid show on that network but this one they're just mature you know it's like well what did you think you know you said all these mean things about your friends having more money than you and you know you feel like you're poor or whatever and he's like well i did hate katherine and i did think she was a stupid slut out for the money i mean sorry and she's like well it's okay we're friends now well she's also not the brightest and i also have to wonder about her judgment because not so much about t-rav because i know girls can have like daddy issues but like uh whitney i question the judgment about going after whitney because i do not get i do not get the whitney thing like even if you have daddy
Starting point is 01:03:12 issues why whitney why well he's got his own 21 year old now so i don't i just don't understand it like i i'm sorry people maybe you can enlighten me. But listen, if you're someone like Catherine who's really beautiful and you can have any man and she appears to go after any man, why Whitney? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Why not? I mean, maybe he looks better without the Chucky wig. You mean the Chuck Bass wig?
Starting point is 01:03:45 I don't know. I don't think he's so bad. I think that girl just needs so much attention. They were probably at a party and no one was paying attention to her. And he stuck his finger under her dress. And that was the impact. Because they're all so casual about it. It's like, yeah, that was fun.
Starting point is 01:04:00 That was a fun night. And then Pat probably walked in and was was like i hope you use a condom thanks i'm gonna get but i love it yeah i love and oh and stupid gross guy doesn't wear a condom he's like i just assume they do oh god what a way to lose your fortune i know yeah seriously i'm not even talking about like herpes like you you're worth zillions of dollars. Why would you put strange babies out there in the world? Have you never listened to a Kanye West song? No kidding. That money's going to be leaking out that pocket, boy.
Starting point is 01:04:35 By the way, one last comment that I have to make is about Cameron, who I thought looked so smoking hot at the reunion. She looked dynamite. She looked fantastic. She is so funny. at the reunion. She looked dynamite. She looked fantastic. She is so funny. I love Cameron. I loved her on Real World, and I loved her on this show,
Starting point is 01:04:50 and she's great. I think she is, now that she's jumped from MTV to Bravo, give her another season of this show, and she could start to rank up there with some of the best Bravo stars out there. Totally. Okay, let's go through some of these comments real quick yeah
Starting point is 01:05:05 sonia's yellow and white diamond collection jordan knight on watch what happens who's jordan knight oh he was in new kids on the block oh i don't care yeah um oh see heather on blast done uh southern charm done warehouse was of new york plan. Done. I think we actually did it. Oh, Porsche on the view. I did not see that, Oscar. Chagoya. Chagoya. What happened with Porsche on the view?
Starting point is 01:05:34 Please, somebody, go to our Facebook page, facebook.com slash watch what crap ends, and put Porsche on the view on there, please. Put Porsche on the view. Oh, you know what I want to start doing now, by the way, Ronnie? I want to give a shout out to some of the people who have started to like our page. So I want to give a shout-out to – oh, well, of course now I can't find the list of the people who recently started to like the page. So you know what? It's not going to happen this time. Let's just give a list of the people that already do.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Kathleen Becker. Happy birthday, Shannon Smith. Sarah Roddy. Brandon Lewis. Roderick Wickenden. Anderson. Paula Jones. Rebecca Piper. Anna Orell. of the people that already do. Kathleen Becker, Happy Birthday, Shannon Smith, Sarah Roddy, Brenna Moose, Rhonda Quick, and Dan Anderson, Paula Jones, Rebecca Piper,
Starting point is 01:06:08 Anna Orell, Oscar Chagoya, Andrea J. Robles, Columbus, Alfonso, Jamie and Andrea, Malia, Olivia,
Starting point is 01:06:17 Ernie and Lily, Ernie again, and Catherine and Liz, Susan and Emmy, Andrea, Kelly Wood, Kathy, Sissy, Caitlin, Erica, Wood, Kathy, Sissy,
Starting point is 01:06:25 Caitlin, Erica, Corey, Helena, Raquel, Andrea, Diane, Lauren,
Starting point is 01:06:31 Brittany, Brooke, Jessica, Nolan, and Lisa. That was so beyond beautiful. Right, you guys. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah, well, thank you, everyone. End this shit. All right. End it. So, Ronnie, thank you, everyone. All right, end this shit. All right. End it. So, Ronnie, tell everyone where they can find you. Guys, come over to Trash Talk TV. That's where a lot of fun recaps are happening. I'm recapping Survivor in video form, and they're called Survivor in Two Minutes.
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