Watch What Crappens - #126: Nene's The Worst... and So Is Ramona

Episode Date: May 8, 2014

Ronnie is off missing again; so Katie Cazorla (twitter.com/thepaintednail) is back to join Ben Mandelker (bsideblog.com) for some serious "tea," as they say. This week the two rag on Nene fo...r being an unrepentant diva on part three of the Atlanta reunion. Then it's off to Orange County where ? surprise ? we love the new girl! Who would have thought? Finally we head to New York City where Ramona acts a damn fool, bitching about her trip to the Berkshires and throwing champagne glasses. Along the way, there's gossip about Apollo Nida, Yolanda Foster, Lynn Curtin's kids, and much more. Plus talk of Married to Medicine. Come listen! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Watch what crappins. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappins. Crappins. Crappins. Crappins. Crappins. Crappens Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? at B-Side Blog. And you can also listen to my other podcast. It's called The Banter Blender. And this week, I'm happy to say that Rob Sesternino from Survivor and from the podcast called Rob Has a Podcast is actually going to be on
Starting point is 00:01:54 and we're going to be talking Survivor. So I just had to give a little bit of cross-promotion on that front because I know a lot of people who come and listen to Watch What Crap Is also like other reality TV. So go listen to The Banter Blender, which is my other podcast. Joining me this week is not Ronnie. Ronnie has been taken away to testify at Apollo's court case.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So in his place is a beautiful lady who we've had on many, many times. She's a TV star. She's a nail connoisseur. And she's a celebrity scavenger hunt goer on her. The one and only Katie Cazorla. Hi, Katie. Party! Katie is ready to party.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I literally just stuck a fake nail to my nose when you gave me my introduction. Yes, and I can verify that because Katie and I are doing this over Skype and I can actually see her face right now. and I are doing this over Skype and I can actually see her face right now. So if our banter is a little, if my,
Starting point is 00:02:48 if our banter is a little weird, it means I'm either staring at Katie or I'm staring at myself. That's or Mary Kate and Ashley. Katie right now is groping her boobs. So that's what this podcast is going to be like. We actually have, Oh, first let me say Katie is at,
Starting point is 00:03:02 uh, the painted nail on Twitter and on instagram and um your facebook thing is i always forget it's something if it was paid a nail official or official it is official katie cazorla okay i know yeah so official and if you want to, by the way, go to the official website for this podcast, go to facebook.com forward slash watch what crappens. And you can join in. So much fun. We have more and more people who are liking it. People put up their links.
Starting point is 00:03:35 They put up funny photos. They do Photoshop things. Everyone talks and becomes friends, and their lives are so much better. And I wanted to give a shout out to some of our new followers. Andrea or Andrea Copeland. Shelly Leiter. Paris Alexander Nesbitt. Hey, I know Paris. Julie Erdfeld.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yong Liu. Janice Murray. Casey Chapman. Alice. Oh, God. Come on, Alice. This name. Herakak?
Starting point is 00:04:01 I don't know. It's probably like Herakak. And I'm like, Herakak? Sorry, Alice. Yes, you just got an unfollow on Facebook. I don't know. It's probably like Herachac, and I'm like, Huracac? Yes, you just got an unfollow on Facebook. I know. I need three more follows to make up for Alice leaving. Sorry, Alice. Taylor McConnell. I think my favorite is Alice Epicac. She's my favorite.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Huracac. Huracac. She came in like a Huracac. Sorry, Alice. I'm now butchering your name but you know what no offense but who cares about Alice we are here to talk about Bravo Alice hates us now I care about Alice you can follow me official Katie Cazorla Alice
Starting point is 00:04:37 Alice doesn't live here anymore and by that I mean she doesn't follow this Facebook page oh my god no we love Alice I No, we love Alice. I love Alice. We love Alice so much. No, there's so much to talk about. There are two big gossip items I want to discuss.
Starting point is 00:04:57 But before we get into that, Katie, last time you were on the podcast, you were about to go on some strange scavenger hunt with yolanda foster and babyface oh my god so i'm in you know i'm really have become great friends with babyface his name is kenny as one does as one does you know that's hard life of me but no it's true like he's really an awesome guy and his wife soon to be wife is equally as awesome and they had this really fun um scavenger hunt it was like baby face meets the amazing race and i showed up of course with like you know fancy cute stuff little did i know i was going to be like you know army crawling through the sand in santa monica it was it was insane like i was like wow i'm really not in shape but on my team was Kenny Babyface um and David Foster Yolanda's husband and let me just tell you something I really I mean I
Starting point is 00:05:56 I never been a big fan of David Foster and I kind of um was that day because he was really like couldn't believe that I could figure out all the clues i was like yeah i know brains and boobies yeah but he he literally was like high-fiving me we had such a good time we came in second okay which is really good how many teams um out of five teams okay so pretty good um actually no i think there was more maybe six teams six teams and it And it was crazy. There was like five people on each team. It was insane. And then we ended up at the Ivy.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And let me tell you something. I have never gone to such a fancy restaurant looking so hell haggard in my life. I was sweating. My makeup was all over the place. There was sand in all kinds of orifices. But you were with Babyface. That made it all right. I wish I could have been
Starting point is 00:06:46 a spectator who was just like wandering around on the beach and there goes Babyface crawling around in the sand. And the worst part about it was people as soon as they recognized it was him, they wanted to stop and take pictures. And here I am like the crazy publicist going like, he can't take any photos. We're in the middle of a scavenger
Starting point is 00:07:02 hunt. People are like, who's that crazy bitch with David Foster and Babyface? I'm like, I i'm yolanda so who how was yolanda well i wasn't on her team you didn't get to interact with her at all we did we did get to interact and she sat across the table from me i sat next to david and i gotta tell you um you know she looks a lot better on tv oh i will okay okay yes they have like oprah lighting on real housewives okay so it was a little interesting i you know and to be fair i did my quattro to mayo thinking they were going to show up at the quattro to mayo party and it ended up being seal the singer seal who was talking to me about never getting married i'm confused wait so seal showed up at the scavenger hunt or you had a party so that was that was the scavenger hunt and then you know
Starting point is 00:07:51 cinco de mayo was you know a couple days ago and it was thrown by the same people minus yolanda and david oh i see it's the same like click of like famous people i'm telling you every sunday is like an adventure for me because i'm like i never know who's gonna show up and at this one it was seal and jesse metcalf i mean what hey hey now he is like insanely good looking yeah no he i've seen him around i've seen him at runyon canyon several times uh he is he is the he is the opposite of yolanda foster he he looks better in person oh he does look better in person. He's really good looking. His girlfriend is really cute. He used to come into Barney's
Starting point is 00:08:29 Beanery when I used to host karaoke there and he literally at the party was like, oh my god, he's like, I remember you from Barney's. And I was like, oh my god, I remember you from Passions. Well, he does have a temper on him, though. He does get into fights. By the way, Katie, do you mind putting in your headphones for audio purposes?
Starting point is 00:08:48 That would just be absolutely lovely. Okay, here's the thing. I totally forgot them. You know, Alice is going to be so pissed at you. Wait, so you do not have any headphones whatsoever? No, I'm in my office right now. Does this sound horrible? No, no, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:03 But, you know, every now and then I hear an echo of my voice. And, uh, if there's one thing I can't deal with, it's my own voice, but all you suckers have to listen to it. I was going to say, that's a terrible thing to say on a podcast. I know. Aren't I the worst? Oh my God. Who can even listen to your stupid voice? Oh, you mean everyone that's out there in podcast land? Yeah, exactly. Podcast land. It's like Candyland, but instead of like candy, it's like audio equipment. It's like the worst board game of all time. So let's talk about some other gossip.
Starting point is 00:09:48 The big thing that came out yesterday is that Apollo Nida or whatever, he, this is Phaedra's husband, he guilty to all these all these um all these charges about fraud he said yes i did it all but what was interesting was that his plea was was wrapped in this kind of passive aggressive attack on phaedra where wherein he kept on saying well i just that my wife was earning so much money and I felt the pressure to keep up and to earn for her. So I just couldn't do it through legal means. So I did it through illegal means, which is the biggest bunch of bullshit of all time. Oh my God. That's such a crock. He's like the new Teresa Guidice or whatever the hell her name is.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah, exactly. So he's going to go to jail. I think he faces up to 30 years, but probably since he copped a plea, it'll be much less. But damn, stupid guy. And so now people are saying on our Facebook page, people are like, oh, well, he's going to be he's going to like Fage is going to divorce his ass any second. But other people believe no, because if they are still married, he can't testify against her. Oh, my God. It's all a ploy yeah exactly it's a conspiracy it's it is wait by the way what happened with the with um with theresa and joe did they ever go
Starting point is 00:10:54 through that hearing do we know they got they got their debt reduced to like eleven thousand dollars something ridiculous oh come on they owed owed like 20 million or something. Huh? Yeah, I don't know. Something is strange going on there, but I haven't been up on that. I'm sure one of our readers could fill us in, probably Michael Cook,
Starting point is 00:11:17 as he seems to have his ear to the ground with all these things. Oh, my God. Please write it on the Facebook page, will you? If you have any updates, we can check it out. Yeah, facebook.com forward slash watch what crap ends. Oh, gosh. Wait, one more bit of gossip before we move on to, I know what you're going to talk about, porn stars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Can I just tell you that last night was very, it was like a very busy night for me on Twitter. Yeah. And for some reason, I am like, I have fans from Vanderpump Rules. And I think since the girls are getting ready to film season three, I think I'm going to throw them all a fabulous mani-pedi party at the Painted Nail at the W and see if that can be somehow spun into everyone getting along, everyone getting mani-pedis. But you know what happens when people get mani-pedis. People get in fights. So, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:06 if there's anything we've ever learned about from Bravo is that if you put reality stars into a spa situation, they immediately do the exact opposite thing and they fight and scream and yell and pull their hair. Remember real houses of Atlanta who gets in a fight at a fucking Zen spa or married to medicine this week. But well, I'll get to that later.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Um, and by the way, we should mention that your your fans from vanderpump rules are it's like sheena and like horse face number one right oh my god and ariana they're all following me now on twitter why do you think that is what happened i went to karaoke night with um a bunch of friends and they introduced me to tom and ariana and we ended up getting along. By the way, Ariana is like really pretty. She looks pretty. That's not as she looks really pretty, which is why horse face hates her. But here's the thing. Seriously, are they not friends? I don't get it. Are they like, I don't understand. Reality TV is like a bad blur to me now. Yeah. I just feel like I believe what I see in person because that's my real reality. Yeah. That's my reality. That's my reality.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Seriously? Seriously. But I can't see being friends with someone like Kristen. But Sheena is like super fun good times. And Ariana is like insanely gorgeous and really fun. I believe it. I might, you know, who knows what's going to happen. Go weasel your way into that group.
Starting point is 00:13:26 You know, I'll keep you posted on that, but I, we should go to serve one night just to see them all and high five. And I, I am down with that. Uh, speaking of harsh reality,
Starting point is 00:13:35 here's a story that is, uh, actually really sad. This is a sad, this is one of the sad reality. This is the, this is what life is like after you watch your parents' marriage fall apart on national TV. So you remember Lynn Curtin from Real Housewives of Orange County?
Starting point is 00:13:55 What a bad name. I just want to call her Beef. Is that bad? Lynn the Beef Curtin. Beef Curtin's daughters. You remember Lynn of Cuff Love? She was the one who got evicted on the show. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:09 She got all the plastic surgery. Remember, like, I loved Lynn. Okay, I loved Lynn. But you knew her kids were going in a bad direction because Lynn put so much emphasis on how the girls looked and how she looked, et cetera. You knew these girls were going to get fucked up. Yeah. Let alone the fact that they're there. The parents were messed up and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:28 So, uh, the girls were already acting out on real housewives of orange County. You had, um, Raquel and Alexa. And I think such porn names to begin. I know exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And basically, yeah, that's it. Uh, both, both name with two X's. Not yet. No.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So both girls have gone into porn. They are both in porn now. So Alexa, who was like the younger one, who at a certain point looked like she could have been like a real model, but then she went like off the rails in her second season. Her porn name is Jaden Taylors. And Raquel's porn name is Sutton Suicide. And if you search, if you do a Google search for Sutton Suicide. Are you sure? Come on.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Absolutely. If you do a Google search for Sutton Suicide, you see that Alexa has now, I'm not Alexa. Raquel has, she now has a sleeve of tattoos on her arm and she has like a sleeve of tattoos on the side of her head she's like she's like one of those like tattoo porn stars like like sort of like alternative whatever the suicide girl type girls is that what is that what that is is that why she called herself sudden suicide oh maybe she's a suicide girl but that's not porn is it no i thought i looked it up i thought i saw her vag oh well you saw her curtain, she should have just kept her last name. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I'm doing a Google search. Alexa with three X's curtain. I know. I mean, she's the perfect porn name. Who changes their name to Sutton Suicide when your name is Alexa Curtain? Let's see. I mean, pull back the curtains. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Well, maybe, you know, maybe, I don't know. So here's the thing. If she is just a suicide girl, she's certainly showing like she is very close to being porny. And I'm not like Mr. Conservative here. I'm looking at a picture right now of her ass. Kitty, you look it up because I feel like I trust your judgment on this more. But Alexa for sure is a porn star. Like there's a picture of her topless. She is porn.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So this is the sad state of affairs. She is porn. Oh my God. This is the sad state of affairs. Is everyone all depressed now? Is everyone ready to talk about Zimbabwe now that we're all sad and depressed? Oh my God, no. Are you looking up Sutton Suicide, by the way? It's on here. The real porn
Starting point is 00:16:40 stars of Orange County. Oh my God. By the way, thank you to marie for putting this link on our facebook page yeah alexa curtain and raquel curtain are doing oh my god they're doing porn this is so weird both kids it's just sad because you know that well i never thought that that raquel had a future because she was always messed up. But Alexa at one point was like a sweet girl. And, you know, this is what happens. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah, it's true. But here's the thing. Why is everybody saying they feel bad? Why do you feel bad? It's not like this isn't a communist country. No one's forcing you to do porno and work in a factory and eat moldy bread. I guess I just had higher hopes for her to wind up at McDonald's or something. I actually, did you know that James Franco worked at McDonald's?
Starting point is 00:17:29 I just thought I'd throw that out there. And you know what? Did you know that James Franco just took a naked shower selfie like two nights ago? Oh, my God. I don't think you can see anything, but it all ties together. He's a little dirty. His teeth are yellow, and they don't need to be because he's hot. He's like a poor man's Johnny Depp, likeet all rich yeah you know poor skeet all rich i also feel bad
Starting point is 00:17:49 for him too when's he gonna go into porn oh my god totally what do you think his name would be what was his name already is a poor name skeet all rich i mean his name his first name truly means semen skeet oh well then he doesn't skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet motherfucker um i really think that he has a great porn name he could be bulritch could do a shot with alexa curtains he could skeet in her curtains i would say he could be skeet on my face i'm not inviting all right so why don't we have so many shows to get through uh which where katie where would you like to start with real housewives of new york
Starting point is 00:18:32 orange county or atlanta i say we start with atlanta because it was the last show it was big and juicy it was two hours long or actually an hour and a half and guess what i took hella notes good oh my god i love when you take notes. I know. Let's do that. You know what the funny thing is now I have to look at my notes and understand what the hell anything I was saying was. Okay. So, um, so unfair that I can't pour myself a glass of wine right now. I could, but I'm on my motorcycle and I'm at my office and that would just be bad times in studio city. Yeah. I should mention you're not actually physically on your motorcycle right now, which would be hilarious if you're doing a podcast from the motorcycle that would be kind
Starting point is 00:19:08 of cool though we might need to post a photo of that actually what people don't know is that again we're doing this over skype and when we first tried to start this podcast there was weird music piping in it was like a beat like a drum beat like it was like cheap porn music and like if we like we almost could not get rid of it and and you would you guys would have had to listen to a cheap like drumbeat the entire episode so you know talk about sound pollution so okay so atlanta um i loved how like it just started off with kenya and nini just bitching at each other and they just bitch and bitch and bitch and nini of course is so awful.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I mean, Kenya's terrible, but Nini makes Kenya seem, like, reasonable. And I loved when Kenya referred to Nini and goes, at least my gums are real on, like, Petco. I love this show. I know. Isn't that so weird? I actually
Starting point is 00:20:01 didn't get... Why did she call her Petco? Yeah, that's the way a lot of these insults work. They kind of don't make any sense, but they're just delivered with so much conviction that you're like, Oh wow. That was really, that was really nasty, but it doesn't make sense. Cause pet code does not have gums. I know. So what are they talking about? You know, maybe like a dog or. And why is Kenya getting a special? Can we just really talk about that? Kenya's getting a special. Oh, like a one hour with Kenya. It's next week. It's going about that? Kenya's getting a special? Oh, like a one hour with Kenya? A one on one?
Starting point is 00:20:27 It's next week. It's going to be like Kenya's secrets or something. Oh, I didn't see that. But, you know, she's getting a special because, you know, it's probably good for Bravo because if Kenya gets to be a big star, the way Nini was, you know, being an asshole about it. But if Kenya's a big star, that means that Nini loses all of her
Starting point is 00:20:44 negotiating power, which means that Bravo doesn't have to give her a raise or whatever because they've got Kenya. So it's probably in their best interest to give her a special and blow up her stardom. Oh my god, I gotta tell you something. If Kenya gets her own special, I'm not gonna watch it. She is, to me, the most
Starting point is 00:21:00 obnoxious woman. She's like Ramona Singer. Yeah, and we will get to Ramona soon enough. We will. I also lovedona Singer. Yeah, and we will get to Ramona soon enough. We will. I also loved, by the way, that we got to see a Sheree flashback. I think it was when Nene said, like, since when
Starting point is 00:21:16 do I ever walk away from any fight? And Kenya's like, well, when Sheree was coming at you, you were moving on out of that restaurant, and then they cut to Sheree, and she's like, lying, traveling bitch! I was like, ah, I miss you. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And here's the other thing. Nina, I used to love meaning she was my favorite. Um, and now I actually dislike her completely. I think she's just so, she thinks she's such hot shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And that star, it, it rose fast and it's going to fall very fast because she's like a one-trick pony nobody wants you anymore well she's also become delusional and she's delusional and unapologetic and doesn't take any doesn't have any accountability for anything much like teresa judas like the way that teresa will sit at a reunion and people will say you did this you did this you hurt my feelings when you said this because you just apologized and you said yeah so i loved for instance a good example was um candy and nini got into it a little bit because uh nini in one of her blogs um said that one of the reasons why she didn't fight marlo is
Starting point is 00:22:15 because she didn't want to get all like she didn't want to like take off her shoe like mama joyce and get all like down in the gutter down in the gutter so candy in the gutter. So Candy was like, you know, that was really nasty because Mama Joyce had nothing to do with this. You went out of your way to insult my mama. My mama. See ya now. My mama. See ya now.
Starting point is 00:22:33 See ya now. Why you gotta talk about my mama like that? Like, see ya now. Rally. Rally with the Sanford. See ya now. We were just having fun. Well, after the fence, too. See ya now. that we were just having fun and the face was well after I took a
Starting point is 00:22:46 face through it now we are like that's what I said okay I just make any noise I can by the way yesterday I was doing my candy and I was like oh my god I sound just like her today it's gone
Starting point is 00:23:01 no but it's not because when I'm watching it I was just like gotta see now Today, it's gone. No, it's gone. No, but it's not because I'm watching it, which is like. Gotta, gotta, see now. Gotta, gotta, down in the gutter where mama and mother's love in the gutter. Raleigh, Raleigh, Raleigh. Can you please make that my ringtone? Because I would just. See now, now, see now. Can you please make that my ringtone? Because I would just... See?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Now. Now. See? Now. Mama. By the way, now I'm getting the echo and I'm hearing my candy going into my head. This is like my nightmare. I feel like Ellen Burstyn in Requiem for a Dream with a refrigerator trying to eat me.
Starting point is 00:23:39 It's like candy bars coming out of my face. Except it's the Ben candy. So anyway... I believe I forgot my earbuds. I'm so sorry. No, no, it's fine. I'm soldiering through. So anyone, congratulate me.
Starting point is 00:23:52 No, but so anyway, so Nini mentions this thing about Mama Joyce. And Candy's like, you know, it was just like you went out of your way. You just didn't have to say that. And then Nini's just like, it's how I felt and so does it matter sometimes i feel like punching the my post the post office worker at my place in the face but do i do it no you know and it's fine for you to feel that way but you have to understand that when you say things even if that's how you felt you still have to like appreciate the fact that it might offend someone and you can say i'm sorry i felt that way i'm sorry and i loved how like candy's like are you saying my mama's in the gutter are you saying i was like good good and and by the way for the record
Starting point is 00:24:34 her mama is in the gutter i know she is in the gutter but candy's point still remains which is that it wasn't nice of nini to bring it up and And Nini, the best part is that Nini is like, did I ever say that Mama Joyce was in the gutter? I'm like, this is classic Teresa Giudice right here. Right? Classic. Like, you say it, and then 10 seconds later. You forget it. It's like that Ron Popeil chicken turner.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Set it and forget it. Well, their new thing is say it and forget it. Because it's not even like set it and forget it well their new thing is say it and forget it because it's it's not even like set it and regret it say it and forget it you don't they don't have any regrets no apologies those bitches are the romco peel of 2014 they really they really are yes and i love to see it and forget it and then of course like nini being the her stance ultimately is i said what i said what do you want me to do it's like bitch how about you apologize don't act like you're defenseless and he goes well i guess this is the only smart thing he said the
Starting point is 00:25:36 entire time he's like well you could apologize no he goes for starters you could apologize and yeah how about an apology yeah like that's actually in so many times in life people this is a lesson i'm putting on my my mr rogers cardigan right now so many times in life an apology can really go far like it's actually amazing to sit and you sort of empathize with another person and you say you know what i you know It's how I felt. But you know what, though? I wasn't really thinking about how it might make you feel. And that was shitty of me. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:10 I'm sorry. But no, Nini is, I said what I said. What do you want me to do? I mean, I thought she was going to like, she looked like a linebacker from the Pittsburgh Steelers. I thought she was just going to get up and tackle. And her weave looking so bad. I feel like there were better wigs in my 11th grade production of I Remember Mama at John Jay High School.
Starting point is 00:26:39 This was so bad. And I want to give a shout out to my buddy ryan up in san francisco who sent a picture that we put up on uh the facebook page of whatever whatever happened to violet i'll tell you what happened to violet she became nini's weave oh my god nini's weave should get her own show yeah it should hold secrets with nini's weave yeah it's like it's just how i feel um and another again another awful nini moment was um when they were talking about someone asked nini about the charity speech that she gave remember when she said she's like thanks i didn't realize i had all these friends goodbye remember that like awful speech that was so rude you don't do that so then nini is like you know what i would like
Starting point is 00:27:23 to apologize you're like oh wow this is like for once like nini see i apologize i just punch her in the face her apology was that she not that she was sorry that like you know what she didn't rise above the situation she didn't rise above the shadiness and that this was about that she didn't put the charity first she was sorry she goes she's sorry that she didn't show young women that uh how to properly react when you've been tricked oh my god it's not about you you motherfucker i know like but she she thinks it is that's the thing i think her head is as big as her weave she She really, I mean, no, really, she's gotten to a point where it's all about, okay, match it. I'll put in
Starting point is 00:28:10 20 grand. You do the same. Okay. And then that snide, conniving, bullshitty laugh. How about when she said the thing about, oh, what do you want me to do? Have a parade? That's more offensive than her first comment.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Well, that was really that was a terrible thing when Andy confronted her about how she kept on saying queen in a derogatory way, which we mentioned on this podcast. And she said, I apologize. What do they want me to do next? Should I hold a gay function? It's like that's why people don't like you now because that's not how you apologize you don't apologize and then be like i apologize you know you you try to show some sincerity and you try to be humble and you try to should i have a parade oh that's not offensive you want me to like what like should i do you want me to pull down your pants and kiss your ass? Like, actually you should because he's the boss.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I know. And you know what would be funny if she didn't get hired back for the next season? And nobody wants her. She's showing her true colors on national television. And a lot of people watch that show. She really, her publicist should be like cringing right now. Yeah, well, I'm sure her whole team is. I mean, she's turning down roles and she's acting like this.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I mean, she's not likable. also she turning down give me a fucking break really she's turning down roles for like um the the scrubby sponge from shark tank that's probably what like an infomercial for that um but uh and then you know the thing that she also did was you mentioned it before was that she challenged ken Kenya to raise money for some charity or whatever. I guess they're both like – Detroit Public School. Yeah. But it just was like – I mean it's good for the school.
Starting point is 00:29:55 The school benefited from this like petty moment. But this like little duel, I was just like, ugh, just awful. And then I love the way then the rest of the episode, Nini kept on doing this like passive-aggressive thing. She's like, well, I haven't accomplished anything in life. I never apologize. I guess that's just me. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yeah, that's right, bitch. You don't apologize. And you haven't accomplished anything, except
Starting point is 00:30:16 that you were on a TV show, which is cool. But guess what? Both of us have been on TV shows, too. Oh, yeah. By the way, Katie, your show lasted a lot longer than her shows. Amen. I had 1.2 million viewers on tv guide network i had a guide underneath me many leaks would not be able to last on tv guide with a guy so take that stripper she would get mad at the guide she'd be like she'd be like why do i have to share with screen with the guy? I am the guy. I know all the TV shows. Why don't they ask me?
Starting point is 00:30:47 You know what? On NBC tonight at 8 o'clock, I'll read the guide. She would be that crazy woman. And it's like, just get back on your pole and find another rich guy to take care of you. Yeah, and you know what? Kenya was actually correct. Kenya said at one point, she goes, no, I think the viewers are sick of Nini. And Kenya is right. They viewers are sick of Nini. And Kenya is right.
Starting point is 00:31:06 They are absolutely sick of Nini. Yeah, the viewers are sick of Nini. But you know what? I think Kenya is so insanely delusional, too, that two delusional bitches don't make a right. Yeah, I agree. It's time to cast new. I want to see new Atlanta. You know that?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Not the actual show, the new Atlanta, because we did all see that. It was not that good. So then another big fight that happened was between Phaedra and Kenya. Phaedra was hilarious this episode. First of all, Apollo comes on. Oh, my God. He was so embarrassingly awkward. I was dying. He was so embarrassingly awkward. I was dying.
Starting point is 00:31:46 He was terrible. And I love that someone accused Phaedra of parenting Apollo. Being too much like a mother. And she goes, I don't have time to parent anyone but my children. And then immediately she just turns to Apollo and goes, be quiet so I can talk, please. I'm like... She goes, please be quiet. I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. I'm like, this is quiet. I'm talking. Yeah. It was so icky and weird. I felt I was watching a gross counseling session between a little boy and his mommy. Yeah, I know. I just love how she can say she doesn't parent Apollo and then does immediately the most maternal scolding thing
Starting point is 00:32:19 that you could do. Oh my God, remember when he hit her weave? And she was like, ow, like, I also, I also liked some of Phaedra's choice words for Kenya. Like at one point she's like, you're a sneaky traveling slut, which is great. But of course I think probably the,
Starting point is 00:32:40 probably the best moment of the entire episode was, was Phaedra's massive, massive, quote-unquote, read on Kenya. Do you know what I'm talking about? Her read on Kenya. Her read when she said – I have the whole quote. She says to Kenya or regarding Kenya, while she's sitting around, running around my husband and the father of my children, and she spends her weekend peddling through sperm banks looking through catalogs to find the donor honey you don't know if your baby daddy would be an axe murderer or child molester because what you will know is that he needed ten
Starting point is 00:33:14 dollars to get him a medium-sized pizza so he ejaculated in a cup so you could have a kid now check that oh my god honestly bravo and you know the thing is it's actually such a nasty thing to say because you know like really it isn't it is it's it's actually like a really nasty thing to say to someone who's trying to get pregnant they go to like a sperm donor like that's you know the way that phaedra throws that in kenya's face is really nasty but damn is it funny oh my god i'm sorry i just have to say this on the record i would never i know some people go to sperm banks and everything but here's the thing wouldn't you i mean really do you feel go to sperm banks do you they're guys that are so desperate for money that they're gonna jerk it
Starting point is 00:33:59 into a cup seriously for she's right for like 10 $10 to $15. Do you want that? You don't get Harvard educated men in there. That's not true. What about, there was a hot guy when Kenya went to the sperm bank. There was a hot guy that came through. Oh yeah. And that was real. You know what I'm going to do as a service to all the ladies, you know, because I would like to have some lunch today, a service to all the ladies. I'm going to go to the sperm bank and I'm going to jerk off in a cup. And now you get some Dartmouth going on into your, get some Dartmouth to the sperm bank and I'm going to jerk off in a cup. And now you get some Dartmouth going on into your, get some Dartmouth into the sperm bank. There you go. Don't be wasting it on some hooker with scrambled eggs.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Who else is going to use it? Who else is going to use it? I mean, but here's the thing. It's, it's a tasty treat for some people. Only you can't get a mouth pregnant. So here what oh my god it's terrible um i'm just saying that i don't think that most well-educated you know fabulous men are lining up in a sperm egg and that guy he was cast he had to sign a release to appear on camera he really was cast they said a hundred dollars day rate come in and pretend you're gonna to jerk it in a cup. But you know what though? Let me tell you something. Maybe not a lot of like, um, high caliber members of society jerk off at a cup at a sperm bank. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:35:12 The people who do go to Harvard and Yale and Princeton and Dartmouth, you know, they have idiot offspring, which just goes to show not, not all of them, but like they can have idiots. So smart people can come from bad sperm and bad people can come from smart, you know, smart parents. Now, say you, now you jumbled it up because you know, it doesn't make sense. You're trying to believe your own lies right now. All right. If you, if you came from a sperm donor and are smart, I would like to hear from you. Okay. Yes. I think you're out there. I think it's, I think, I think you can come i i think we tell their kid that like you know what one day i just why don't you just like adopt or like foster a kid or what it's not even like really a sperm donor experience you know
Starting point is 00:35:57 people are all yeah people just want it you know what can you do but you can get pregnant from not a sperm donor i know you can ask a friend ask a single donor. I know. You can ask a friend. Ask a single guy friend. Get on a very active bike seat. Why wouldn't she? Sorry, I just passed a little. Sit on a bus bench in West Hollywood. And, I mean, it's like a game.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Just hang around, sir. Just hang around, sir. Spread your legs and something's going to fall in there. Just sit on one of the bar stools at Villa Blanca and you never know. Just hang out in the employee lounge while Jax is on his shift. Oh, my God. And here's the thing. You're only going to get one or the other, though. I feel like you're going to get really smart or really good-looking, because God doesn't give you everything.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I would go for really good-looking. Smart, good-looking, or if you have both, then they're probably going to be gay. Exactly. Which is a good thing. NeNe leaks. Yeah, NeNe leaks. And no, we don't want to have a fucking parade about it.
Starting point is 00:37:02 We're not going to have a sperm parade. I love a parade. Start rally, rally, rally. fucking parade about it okay we're not gonna have a sperm parade okay so um okay so anyway so then finally the the husbands came out onto this reunion and you know peter oh yeah oh well you know peter which is my reference to miami um but peter was there peter of course is the biggest jackass and at one point this is the way he defends himself he's because they're talking about like you know he's a dickhead he's a real dickhead so so the issue is that you know nini said you're acting you're being a bitch you're acting like a bitch or whatever and he's like he's like i would never call anyone a bitch and so he his defense was, I have four baby mamas.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I never called any of them a bitch. Congratulations, Peter. Congratulations. Who says that? Talking about sperm donors. Yeah, why doesn't Kenya just borrow some from Peter? Apparently he's very generous with it, so. Yeah, and by the way, you know, I think it's, you know, in society,
Starting point is 00:38:01 people say, like, baby mama, and it's kind of like a funny thing, whatever. But if you actually have, like, a baby mama, I kind of feel like it's a little disrespectful to refer to them merely as like my baby mama. Am I being like a little conservative here or? Okay. I think just a little bit, cause I've heard like my, like my fun friends will be like, well, you know, um, you know, he's my baby daddy or. Well, yeah, I understand that there's a fun way to say it, but I just feel like in this instance, when Peter's trying to, to like defend himself to be like, I have four baby mamas. Instead of – like in that case where you're trying to be respectful to show that you're – he's trying to show that he's a respectful person.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And yet there he is saying, I've got four baby mamas. It just kind of feels like – Well, it's like saying, you know what? I pay – I'm a respectable man. I pay my child support for all my bitches. Yeah. Could you imagine? That's like, that's what I kind of felt like. It's, it's one thing to be like with friends and be like, yeah, my baby mama or like my baby daddy. Like I get that, but like, and I just feel like when you're, when you're sort of like defending your character, I think you can
Starting point is 00:39:00 say, you know what? I have, you know, all my exes, any, any woman I've been romantically involved with. I just think Peter's an idiot. Yeah, no, he could have said like, you know, I have, I have children from different mothers out there and you know, blah, blah, blah. Instead he's like, well, I got four baby mamas. Way to go. Yeah. Almost like a bragging point.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah. It's like saying, well, I've been pregnant like four times from four different guys. And you know what? You can do it. It's like, what is your fucking deal? Stop it. Stop spreading your crap all over Atlanta. Kim Zolciak.
Starting point is 00:39:35 But, um, yeah. Kim Zolciak. Speaking of idiots, my favorite part with them was like Greg tried to explain the situation. He's like, he's like, well, the point that has still been misconscrued. Misconscrued. Oh, yeah. How much bad grammar did you hear last night? I'm not being – this is not racist.
Starting point is 00:39:51 This is a fact. Okay, people. Just dumb people. Now, I will say this. Let me do a quick tangent to Marriage to Medicine because I know you did not get to see that, Katie. But one of my favorite points on the show this week is that Toya, who is like the poster child for bad grammar and being an idiot, she's the one who last season was like,
Starting point is 00:40:09 I have came here because I wanted to get some answers about the drug khazar. You know? So this week, at one point, she starts... At one point, she goes, she goes, what you shoulda did, what you shoulda did, and Dr. Simone was like, what you should have done, what you should have did. And Dr. Simone was like, what you should have done.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Oh, my God. And then Toya's response was, her specialty is the Regina, not the dictionary. And I'm like, let me tell you something, Toya. You don't have to be a quote unquote specialist to be able to correct what you should have did to what you should have done. Okay. Like it's okay for Dr. Simone to correct you on that because that is a very basic grammatical error that you made,
Starting point is 00:40:51 but I guess it was all misconscrued. Oh, it was definitely misconscrued. It's like, well, what makes you the Kazar of this conversation? I have came to this conversation to talk about it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Don't worry about me. I'm just going to be waiting in line to get onto the Underground Railroad. Just waiting to get my tickets for the Underground Railroad. Oh, my God. They should actually make that a ride. Wouldn't it be great if there was, like, a Real Housewives theme park? It would truly be, you know, like, move over, like, Not Scary Farm. Because this would be the most terrifying amusement park of all.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Oh, yeah. Universal Studios Haunted Horror Nights. over like not scary farm because this would be the most terrifying amusement park of all oh yeah universal studios haunted horror nights that's every night at the real life it's like ramona singer with her makeup off so um by the way she looks terrible no wonder that guy left her did you see how mean he was to her by the way well he's an asshole he's always an asshole but now i mean so by the way so i think my my only, my last comment on Atlanta was, I was really amused at one point, Greg and Nini, they were talking and all they were saying were noises. At one point they were going to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I was like, what the hell is going on? Even Toya makes more sense. No, but you know what I think that is? And I'm, I? And I know this for a fact.
Starting point is 00:42:07 They do that when they want to say something where it's like their secret language. Like if we were on live television together and we wanted to give a shout out to someone, we would do a thing like, boop, you know, just make a little noise and everyone, you know, notes that. Yeah, it's like a little inside joke. But it's just kind of funny because
Starting point is 00:42:21 it just was kind of funny because it seemed like they were having a whole conversation in onomatopoeias. Rosa Parks, Reconstruction, MLK, February, Black History Month. Exactly, exactly. There are so many stories of black history that we just are not really talking about or thinking about, especially outside of February. And we are about to flip the script on all of that. Because on this show, you're going to hear a little less. In August 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
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Starting point is 00:44:30 Bam. You know, I'm going to mention Marriage Medicine really quickly. I know you don't watch it. This season has not been as good, but these women, Mariah and Quad, they do have some amazing, amazing lines. At one point, Mariah was referring to Quad. And by the way, for the record, they're having a feud. I won't get into it.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But Mariah is like clearly in the wrong. Like everyone's like, I mean, I'm team Quad for sure. But Mariah at one point is talking about how she feels that Quad transforms her personality every time she's in a group. And she goes, I have no time for Transformers, especially a Decepticon. I was just like, oh, my God, no. I was i was like i was like yes and no at the same time i was like that's amazing no that's not this is terrible who makes that reference in an adult group of women no but the line of the night the line like the only reason to tune into the show was at one point mariah got so mad she's like in this fight with quad in the tranquility suite at a women's
Starting point is 00:45:25 empowerment like conference, which is hilarious because they were not being empowering or tranquil. And at one point she turns to quad and goes, I will not come off my chariot and throw tomatoes with you. My, oh my God. My chariot. Why did she say it like that? Because she's dumb. But I love that she said it like that. My chariot. I will not come off my chariot. My chariot. And throw tomatoes with you. That is, to me, that's such a Kenya thing.
Starting point is 00:45:54 That would be something Kenya would do. Thinking she's being fancy and classy, but she just looks like a fucking idiot. Well, it's sort of like, at least my gums are real, unlike Petco. Oh, my God. That's a winner, too. I might get thatums are real. Unlike Petco. Oh my God. That's, that's a winner too. I might get that made into a t-shirt. Yeah, you should. So at least gums are real, are real. Unlike Petco. No, it's at least my gums are no, are real, are real. At least my gums are real. Unlike Petco. I think Petco is saying that Nini is some sort of animal, which is, by the way. Let's not get that twisted.
Starting point is 00:46:26 But Kenya is too. Kenya loves to provoke. Obviously, you saw her in different situations where she pushes it so far that then the person snaps, and she blames everybody else. Well, one's like a wild dog, and one's like a wild hyena. It's like they're pretty much the same thing.
Starting point is 00:46:43 So let's move on to Orange County. Speaking of wild animals, let's go to Orange County where I didn't take too many notes on this one. But the big thing was that there was an ugly sweater party. And we met Lizzie. We met the new housewife, Lizzie. Oh, my God. I'm team Lizzie all the way. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I love Lizzie. I thought for sure she was going to be the worst. They set her up like she was going to be some slutty, big-boot, bimbo idiot. They kept showing her falling over. She's smarter than all the women. First of all, she's funny, pretty. She was a beauty queen. She has a degree.
Starting point is 00:47:19 She has her own line. And she lives in a townhouse. So let's be fair. She's not a millionaire. She actually seems pretty grounded. I, you know, let's be fair. She's not like a millionaire. She actually seems like pretty grounded. Like I got like a really good vibe off of her. Like I feel like, you know, she will stand up for herself
Starting point is 00:47:32 when she needs to stand up for herself. And she's smart. Like, honestly, at the, you know, there was that stupid fight between Heather and Tamara over the use of the word amalgam. And Tamara's like... Tamara's a fucking idiot. She is an idiot. You know what? Because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:47:49 When she went, huh? Yeah, huh? Huh? Even if you don't know what amalgam is, granted, amalgam is not like a word that's used often, but it is a word. And then she used it wrong when she went to redo
Starting point is 00:48:03 it. She goes, huh? And used it. I'm like, yeah, still used it wrong. Yeah when she went to redo it she goes huh and used it and like man still used it wrong yeah it's like you know what don't blame heather's a witch but don't blame her for using a word like if it's your fault that you're too stupid to know it's your fault that you've made it 45 years in your life and you've never even bothered to even listen or look up this word amalgam okay like at least say oh i'm sorry i don't know what that word is or whatever but don't be like huh huh i told you not to use big words around me don't use big words around me it's like oh i'm sorry let me get my crayons out so you can sign things i mean who does that again seriously seriously seriously my god i feel bad like can i
Starting point is 00:48:42 i can't like make fun of anyone anymore like my life is like flip turned upside down you can you made fun of yolanda for so long and then you end up on a scavenger hunt with her but i know which i still might make fun of her yeah so but but the thing is this when heather was like you know amalgam amalgam and then i want i remember lizzie in the background like no no lizzie was like amalgam yeah like amalgam. Yeah, she's like, you know. Like amalgam. And I love that Lizzie defined it. She was like, amalgam is a blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I think the producers fed her that line.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Well, they did, but like, I also feel like... At least she sounded good talking about it. Yeah, I felt like I believed... You know what it was? It's not that they fed it to her. I mean, they did, but like, I think she was making a point that like, she even said, like, get over it. If you don't know the word word use it three times the next day and then it'll be in your head amalgam and then she said what the definition was it was like her way of saying that like even if you don't know it's easy to learn a definition it's easy to learn new words
Starting point is 00:49:37 new words that are longer than the word cut like cut fitness yeah cut fitness she spelled it with a with a q yeah she to me tamra is everything about her is slightly obnoxious and and dumb hey by the way can we just talk about why the fuck did heather go to eddie with their personal conversation from dinner yeah we talked about that last week but yeah that was that was a bitch move. That was a real bitch. She was like, okay, you're going to say I have a pull on my ass? Fine, I'm going to blow up your spot. It was a totally, totally bitch move. And you know what? I'm sure if they confront her about it in the reunion,
Starting point is 00:50:13 she will be like, well, I just thought it was something that I thought it was something that had to be shared. It was something to be shared. She will not apologize for that. I mean, Heather's obnoxious to me. Oh, they don't have a motor court we're the aliens of the motor court it's like it's if anyone cares like president obama's coming into town exactly actually he is he is actually he's in town today don't go near century city
Starting point is 00:50:34 oh my god don't he's in town he's like i hear there's a new motorcade in orange county when you die i feel like well he can only go to the Dubrow's new house because they're the only ones on the block with a motorcade. So take your chariot. Go throw tomatoes at people. President Obama, bring your chariot to the Dubrow motorcade. You say potato. I say vodka. You are cordially invited to the Dubrow motorcade for all chariots and tomatoes are welcome to be thrown.
Starting point is 00:51:02 motorcade where all chariots and tomatoes are welcome to be thrown. And just get your algorithm of friends just like you. It'll be an amalgam of chariots and vehicles and the motorcade and tomatoes. Your algorithm rhythm.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It'll be an amalgam of algorithms. I can't even figure... By the way, we have to talk about something. We have to talk about something. I'm sweating talking to talk about something. We have to talk about something. I'm like sweating talking about this right now. It's okay. We have to talk about this party because, first of all, there were some real lookers at this party. The woman who won for ugliest sweater, she was pregnant and her belly was coming out from under the –
Starting point is 00:51:40 but that was actually the least offensive part. She just had this – her hair, her makeup, it was like, if you ever want to know what's wrong with Orange County, when people say, how do you describe Orange County? Look at that woman's hair and makeup, and that explains everything. And she went to a party knowing that they were filming. Because, you know, they have to make people aware. So she went to a party knowing full well that they're going to be filming for Housewives. And that's how she went. And it was scary. She was like a fat, full well that they're going to be filming for Housewives. And that's how she went.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And it was scary. She was like a fat, gypsy, pregnant lady. She looked like one of those troll dolls, but with the hair down. When you wet the hair of your troll doll before it dries and goes straight up. You know, I love making fun of people's physical characteristics. You know, I love making fun of people's physical characteristics. And as long as I'm being catty, I have to mention something that was not explicitly mentioned on the show. But the fact that the editors cut to this person so many times meant that they were kind of trying to make a statement about it. That guy, Joe, who was the husband of the sweater party.
Starting point is 00:52:41 They weren't playing. He was gay. When she introduced him, she goes, oh, this is my husband, Joe. He's like, hi. How's it going? I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:50 oh, they mean like her gay husband. And it's like, she's like, yeah, we've been married for about like four years or whatever it was. She's like, yeah, like with a nice sweater. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:52:59 When I saw that, I watched it with Walter and he immediately was like, oh my God, is that like ramona's gay husband yeah new can you believe that i thought for sure no i think that's her real husband and he goes oh he's gay yeah he's like i can't eat the i can't eat the cauliflower because it gives me gas i'm like listen you know when in stone houses like a glass house when in stone
Starting point is 00:53:23 houses don't throw glass but when in glass houses when in glass houses don't throw stones you know when in stone houses like a glass houses when in stone houses don't throw glass but when in glass houses when in glass houses don't throw stones you know what if he is gay um you know what you know who is it for us to out him but that being said if you're gonna be in the closet at least try to do a better job you know oh my god and the funny thing was is he had the vest he had on with the appliques i secretly think he made it at one of his Joanne Fabric sewing classes. I think so. I mean, I, my gay era was so. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but just, you know. Yeah, there's nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:56 There's nothing wrong with being gay, obviously, or being closeted. Everyone takes their time. But it's at the same time, I think we all have the right to poke fun at the idea of this guy pretending like he's straight when he's just very very gay and by the way i hope he becomes more of a part of this because i gotta tell you the husbands on orange county were always like so boring and blah yeah oh my god are we having an earthquake i don't feel everything's just shook maybe it's gonna come here you're in the valleys maybe it'll happen here yeah because everything i feel i feel normal you do are you sure maybe it happened maybe it was so subtle i didn't feel it
Starting point is 00:54:38 okay because i just felt everything shake and i look i'm looking at my water bottles and they're all going like crazy like this you know we once had an earthquake during this podcast before we were doing it was when Matt Whitfield was on and like Matt Ryan and I were doing this and all of a sudden like you know what maybe because this podcast is so groundbreaking that I think so it makes it makes things shake maybe it was maybe it was Joe's closeted gay fury coming to shake the sentiment to you. Maybe the devil is gay. Well, I'm sure if you go onto Facebook, I'm sure the earthquake things will be popping up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I did not feel anything. No, I did. That was really weird. Okay. So onward. So what else happened in Orange County? So we got to be good girl i loved her yeah vicky and brooks are back together don't give a shit not even gonna really
Starting point is 00:55:30 brooks needs to get out of there he reminds me of slade where you're just like god you just want to be famous so bad it's disgusting like just please go away yeah um i want him to leave he's gross yeah he's it's just like nothing. I don't care. I really don't care. That's a story. What's going on with Vicky? She had some, didn't they bring up some weird lawsuit about her, some business venture that she's doing that she didn't pay them.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Right. It was like, yeah, there's, there's an issue with her Vicky's vodka. That's been going on for a while. And, and because Brooks is there, they actually, the lawsuit is flavored. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's an issue with her Vicky's vodka. That's been going on for a while. And because Brooks is there.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Actually, the lawsuit is. Slavered. Yeah, yeah. Her piggy, her bloody piggy. No, the Vicky's vodka people, I think, are actually sued Brooks. And so there's that. Wait a second. What?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Wait, why? Because they're like, he took money. I don't know what it was. Or it's like they gave V Vicky like split her investment or whatever or whatever her income with Brooks and it was not intended for Brooks. It was some craziness. It's not worth it. It's not worth even looking into. The point is that there's a lawsuit going on. Brooks is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I can't even deal with that guy. Go away, please. Well, we can talk about Cindy C on our Facebook page said that she wants us to talk about the fact that Shannon has to get liquored up to hook up with her own husband. Oh my God. You know what? She treats her husband like shit. She really does. She treats him like he's a complete
Starting point is 00:56:57 idiot moron and then it's passing down to the girls. The daughters are even like, Daddy, you don't know big words because you're dab and you're poor and you work on the streets it's like obviously the woman is the breadwinner she has all the money and she paid for everything and this guy has a construction company and i say that loosely with air quotes yeah i think he works for like the street department like he's like the guy who like you know i don't know what he does, but he, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:26 I mean, listen, in all fairness, my dad is the superintendent of public works in Elmira Heights, New York. But I think that that husband would work for my father. Yeah. I know. There's something weird going on. I don't know how they are able to afford their, well, she's rich. She's rich.
Starting point is 00:57:42 She's the one with the money. Oh my God. The secret tea room. I was obsessed with that. Love that secret. I like that, too. I like that, too. What else are we missing? I think that was basically it for me.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Oh, the Eddie and Tamara thing. I don't care. The baby. And he's like, oh, by the way, you have to raise it. Like, shut the fuck up, Eddie. Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't care if you have a baby. I just don't want to raise it. Oh, fun maybe you can she should hook up with peter from
Starting point is 00:58:08 real housewives of atlanta yeah exactly like way to be a total jackass eddie oh my god just shave your beard already you know what i'm over i'm over tamra and eddie i think they're old news i think vicky is always a staple she was the og housewife she should never go away but brianna ew stop featuring that fucking heifer she's really disgusting she has a shitty attitude the kids treat their parents like shit even though they have money because of vicky yeah people should think twice about evil vicky they should they should i agree is it bad that walter said Vicky looks like a burn victim? He just doesn't understand. I know he just doesn't understand why they do so many closeups on her face. He always, but he said it's like a car wreck, but that's the thing. He said it in a, in a really innocent way. Like as if a child was just asking an innocent question off of an
Starting point is 00:59:00 observation, he literally said to me, was Vicky in an accident? And I go, no, why? And he goes, because her face, she looks like she is a burn victim. And I was like, oh my God, I felt like maybe she heard me. So I was like, this is so terrible that he's saying that. But then I looked at him like, she does have, it's like Kenya and Nini have that too, that weird pocked up kind of burn victim-y skin.'s when you're, when you're a teenager, you get acne and this is what happens. It gets like that. Well,
Starting point is 00:59:29 I mean, you got bad acne. Yeah. You got like the scars, acne scars. Oh my God. That's terrible. You know what?
Starting point is 00:59:34 I heard Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt, collagen injections to fill out. Yeah. He had a whole thing. He had a whole thing with his acne scars. Speaking of acne scars, why don't we talk about the real housewives of New York city?
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yay. Our six favorite acne scars on TV. Walter will not watch that with me. Oh my God. It's so good. Last night's episode. Wow. It was like one of those things where you're like simultaneously,
Starting point is 01:00:00 simultaneously furious at the screen yet enjoying every moment because why did Portia get arrested for pulling Kenya's weave but yet Ramona's not arrested for throwing a fucking glass well Ramona's not arrested because the women on on New York are they're not like I don't want to say they're more civilized because they're obviously not more civilized but they're not ridiculous they're not the type to be like, oh, I am calling the authorities. You know, it's like they sort of like know how to handle things. They can be childish and yet adults at the same time. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I think Ramona and what's her name? Sonia are the most. They're like those two Muppets that sit up in the gallery. Oh, no, they're terrible. They're the worst people alive. Let's start at the beginning of the episode, which is when Sonya went to Kristen's apartment to get some professional
Starting point is 01:00:52 advice from Kristen's husband, Josh. Now, Josh is like an asshole. We've seen all season that he's an asshole, but he knows what he's talking about. So Sonya gets in there. Looks like Gollum from Lord of the Rings. He does. And Josh is totally dismissive of her, as he should be. But he's also just, like, laughing in her face.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And, like, he's being an asshole. If you want to teach someone things, you don't approach that way, especially someone like Sonia, who admittedly is so all over the map when they – Oh, my God. The soccer team. Yeah. So what are you doing? She's like, well, I have my plates. I have my plates that are going to be in the south of France.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I've got the Nigerian soccer team. And I have my toenail clippers that are going to be in Istanbul. I've got my Finnish thimbles in Brunei. For all of Holland. I have a very popular neck brace that's going to be in Brunei, Brunei, for all of Holland. I have a very popular neck brace that's going to be in Brunei. I have a church key. I've got a church key. You've ever seen a church key?
Starting point is 01:01:54 Very popular with the indigenous people of Vanuatu. I've got these really cool nose piercings made out of bone That's going to go really well in Zimbabwe. It's the Sonia Morgan, um, bone nose, nose, um, uh,
Starting point is 01:02:09 rods. That's, I mean, it's huge. It's huge in Zimbabwe. I have a fake eyelashes that sell very well in East Dnester, which is a country that's not recognized by any other country in the world, but,
Starting point is 01:02:19 but does claim sovereignty. And it's very, very popular there. Oh my God. That's good that you knew that. I think you saw that on jeopardy. very popular there. Oh, my God. That's good that you knew that. I think you saw that on Jeopardy. I'm impressed. Actually, I learned about it by reading the game, you know, the dating book.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Oh, my God. Who knew? Yeah. It's because, yeah, they, whatever, Neil Strauss drives to Eastern Dnester, and it's actually a real place in Eastern Moldova or something that it views itself as a country. And they've got guards and everything, but they're not internationally recognized at all. And Sonya's very popular there. That's where she has her new vodka line, Sonya Morgan's vodka line for Maldonans. She's like, I have a sponsorship with a Maltese lacrosse
Starting point is 01:03:06 team. There's a... She makes bolts, too. She knits them out of a... It's a special fiber that you can only find on sheep that are indigenous to the region of...
Starting point is 01:03:23 Of the Pyrenees. She's like, I have the backing of the Eritrean speed skating team. Oh, my God. When you die, if like cut to like three years from now, we go to watch or whatever, four years from now, we go to watch the Winter Olympics. And Sonia Morgan's name is on like the, she has like a bobsledding team and it's she
Starting point is 01:03:45 sponsors the bobsleds and it's like the nigerian she sponsors them because she's going to be living in a bobsled and they're gonna be like ma'am we need to use this bobsled she's like well fine if you're gonna use my house then i want to have my i won't have my name on the side of it so it'd be like sledding for the more for She's like, be careful. That's my house going down the slope. That's my house. It's a trailer. She's going to now sell them. She just did a deal with Honda where that's going to be the new way to do mobile.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah. She's going to live in a bobsled. She's going to light her abundance candle and hope for gold medals. It's like, yeah, I'm very excited about the Olympics. My house is going to be in the Olympics. My house is competing. You mean your country. No, my house is actually going down.
Starting point is 01:04:32 By the way, I love how What's Her Namey was completely dogging her out at that dinner party. Well, that's the thing. I mean, Josh or Kristen. No, about her. Who was it that was talking about her house and everything falling under? Wasn't it Josh and Kristen?
Starting point is 01:04:51 Oh, no, it was Luanne. Luanne had the funniest comment because Luanne has been funny this season. She is like Lucy Goosey. She's been like Lucy Goosey. At one point, Kristen was saying how Sonia visited her downtown in Tribeca and they're like, Oh, that's a big deal.
Starting point is 01:05:08 So I'm going to never leaves her apartment. And Luanne says, well, that's because she thinks that by the time she gets back to have already taken away from her. I laughed out loud about that. Cause it's true. She has any room to talk. She was like a waitress and married somebody rich. So, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah. But she right though. She right. Yeah. She right. She was like a waitress and married somebody rich. So, you know, yeah, but she right though. She right. Yeah, she right. She right. Nobody wants to show up with it with a wheel lock and an eviction notice on your door because they can't do it when you're inside. Well, um, I have to say, uh, that, uh, that dinner party that you mentioned was hilarious. It was full of so much passive aggression. Heather was being such a bitch. It's so funny. If you piss off Heather in the slightest way, she can be the biggest bitch with her smiling face.
Starting point is 01:05:49 She was saying nasty things right to Ramona's face, and she was saying she attacked Ramona for bringing her gay husband, because Ramona brought an extra guest, and Heather was paying for this dinner, I assumed. And Heather was like, what did Heather say? She's like, you gotta learn some
Starting point is 01:06:06 manners like telling people ahead of time that you're gonna bring someone to their dinner party or something like that like did she call her out like that in front of everyone she did she does it all the time but you know what i think that that the women are are obviously over um dealing with ramona like ramona's gonna get it really bad it's's kind of like the Kenya Nini thing, where people don't care anymore. They're not going to hold back in front of anyone because they've been through it for so long that they're fucking over it. Well, you know, Ramona was absolutely
Starting point is 01:06:34 awful this episode. Ramona, this to me was a... It harkened back to season one when Jill Zarin had a dinner party and Ramona showed up and could not have been more rude. She was rude and insulting to like Alex, who I think she had just met. She's rude, insulting to Jill, to the wind, everyone. I was at the one they brought that when she brought her husband and was like, this is a girl's dinner.
Starting point is 01:06:55 This is girls dinner. Why? That's right. That's right. Because Alex, Alex brought Simon. And so Ramona, I remember watching that and being and thinking to myself, how could one person be so obnoxious and rude in at like a civilized affair? And this that's what this was. This was Ramona from the moment she got into the car to go to the Berkshires because Heather invited everyone to the Berkshires. She's like, who goes to the Berkshires?
Starting point is 01:07:21 I go to the Hamptons. Does Ramona even have a house in the Hamptons? Yeah, well, she does, but it's also like, bitch, get over it. It's a rental, right? But it doesn't even matter. I mean, there are places outside of the Hamptons and Saint-Tropez and St. Bart's. There are places. The Berkshires are beautiful.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Why not go someplace different? What are you going to miss out on? What are you going to miss out on, Ramona? What is so wrong? You've been invited to someone's house. Next week, apparently, that she wanted to go to some big fancy party and by the looks of how it looks for next week's episode, it looks as
Starting point is 01:07:55 though she leaves, ditches Sonia, and then all of a sudden we end up seeing an Instagram of Ramona at some party at some white party in the Hamptons. Exactly. Which is a little bit juicy. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:08:09 But the thing is, to make matters worse, she bitched and moaned the entire time. She looks up the real estate prices. What? The real estate in the Berkshires. That was so disgusting. It was just tacky. I can have like six houses in the Berkshires.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Who cares? You could probably have an entire town in Fiji, but it doesn't make Fiji any less beautiful. Exactly. It doesn't matter. To think that Heather invited them, I mean, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:08:43 I'm telling you right now, I could not like to me i love carolyn i love kristin because they're like who gives a shit whatever and i love when when carolyn jumped out of the boat was like you carol carol i was like carolyn oh shit why do i call her i always call her because the readers are gonna get so mad at you they're gonna get so mad at you you called carol carolyn no because here's the thing. I think her real name is Carolyn Radis. Carolyn Radis. Okay, maybe. Isn't it?
Starting point is 01:09:09 It could totally be Carolyn Radis. But, oh, no, I empathize. I empathize with Carol when she jumped out of that. And she's like, you bitches are crazy. And she jumped out of the boat. Listen, I have to agree. If I were stuck in a hot room during a heat spell, that sucks mean, listen, I have to agree. Like I, if I were stuck in like a
Starting point is 01:09:25 hot room, uh, during heat spell, like that sucks. And I would not have liked it, but I would not have ordered air conditioning. You know, especially when Heather said on the phone, like, you know how we do, we don't have air conditioning here. Almost like it was a point of pride. Like I wouldn't order air conditioning for someone's house. That's just, do you know how, do you know how that's actually very insulting? And I got to tell you why, because grew up in upstate new york and my parents live in a house that's a hundred years old okay a hundred years ago there was no central air and heat okay so any smart new yorker knows that things were built so long ago and it takes hundreds of thousands of dollars to really get permitted in and to get things put in
Starting point is 01:10:05 and it's only, I mean, like, enjoy the fucking breeze. Why do you need your stupid air conditioning? And just be gracious, you know, if you don't want to go on this thing, don't go. She shouldn't have come. Put up or shut up. You know, and she should have, or just put up and shut up, I should say. Oh, and that bitching about the boat, having to carry the boat
Starting point is 01:10:22 and it's not... Everything, when she pulls up and she asks is there someone to help us take the bag out of the car? And then she says, is this your house? Is this the garage? I mean, one thing after the other. So I was actually like yelling at my television going, are you fucking kidding me? If I heard her say
Starting point is 01:10:38 that, I would take her bag and be like, carry your own bags, you old bitch. Who does that? Who says something like that? so rude oh i mean it was it was like beyond beyond beyond rude i i couldn't even believe what i was seeing and how she was acting and reacting and how ungracious she was to be there and how she wasn't able to take in this these beautiful views of the mountains um it was as as ramona likes to say it was day class a i'm sorry day class a oh my god very she she proved herself to be a tacky complaining bitch
Starting point is 01:11:15 and all i could think about was poor mario has to deal with that nagging woman it's like the woman from the real housewives that new mom who treats her husband like crap um what's her name the new lady oh um um irrelevant i'm blanking i'm blanking oh my god how do we not know her name that's how irrelevant she is to us right now that is so ridiculous it's true but it is because she's not memorable enough she's just bitchy and weird and doesn't make sense with her fake feng shui. Oh, uh, Shannon, Shannon. Okay. You're right. So Shannon is to me is like Ramona, the more you nag and bitch like that husband stray. Yeah. They don't want it. They just want to plow something and be done with it. So you better be nice to your man. Stupid Ramona.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Well, too late. Exactly. And I'm trying to look up the comment on Facebook. Someone mentioned the irony of when they're out there canoeing, that Ramona kept on demanding, demanding some tranquility, some peace and quiet. And it's like, Ramona, you were the one who was making the most noise. One of our readers said the irony of the one with the biggest mouth demanding silence and tranquility. Oh, and I think Carol's the one that said, oh, it's so funny that you're demanding that when it's always you.
Starting point is 01:12:34 One of the ladies made a comment. I think it may have been Carol. It was like, well, then maybe you should be quiet. I mean, I couldn't even imagine. So then what happens is there are two canoes and Luann – I think it was Luann or at least Carol and – Carol and Sonia. And Kristen and Heather. They're in the water.
Starting point is 01:12:55 The point is – no. Yeah. Excuse me. I just burped. Ramona and Sonia. Ramona and Sonia are in their canoe and the other girls are more or less in the water. I would never swim there that freaks me out those girls are ballsy
Starting point is 01:13:08 I actually don't like swimming in lakes neither do I I think it's gross me too I don't know about the state of New York that's so awful I'd like to get the lake I hate when you have to first walk into the lake and it's like mushy I don't understand Jason
Starting point is 01:13:21 like Jason's under the dock and he's just gonna swim and like tangle my body in the seaweed. Yeah. I always think they're snapping turtles or something. But there are. There are. That's because there are. Where I grew up, snapping turtles would come walking up onto my lawn.
Starting point is 01:13:35 So I know a thing or two about snapping turtles like Ramona. So anyway, the thing is this. Ramona and Sonia start talking. Ramona starts telling Sonia about how Kristen's husband was bad-mouthing her at that dinner party. And, like, Kristen's, like, right there in the water. And then this sort of transfers to Ramona saying how she doesn't, you know, she thinks that Kristen's sort of like a bitch. And she didn't like the way Kristen splashed her at the spa the other day, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So Kristen's right there.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And then they get into it a little bit. And so what does Kristen do? She splashes. She kicks in the water, and she splashes Ramona. Ramona's like, you know what? You know what? That's not nice. You know what?
Starting point is 01:14:13 That's really not nice. That's not nice at all. And she takes her wine glass and she chucks it at Kristen. At her face. At her face, which she earns money off of. Like, that's her career right there. Yeah, because she's a model and she's attractive and it's like, by the way, do you know Kristen's 36?
Starting point is 01:14:31 Oh, okay. I believe that. I thought she was a little older. So the hair, I think, is a little matronly for her. Maybe a little bit, yeah. But she, so Kristen starts to bleed because this glass hits her.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And it's like – I mean Ramona is like an animal, a wild animal. She's like, well, she splashed me and I didn't have any water. So I had what I had in my hand. So I threw it at her. I'm like, bitch, first of all, there's water all around you. You're in a canoe. Just reach down and splash. Use an oar.
Starting point is 01:15:03 It's a classic splash technique is to take an oar and splash someone. That's what you do. Yeah. But yeah, yeah. But then my favorite part was, you know, Ramona was mad because she'd just done her hair. And so now that she got wet, her hair got ruined. But let me tell you something. First of all, you're on a lake. You're on a lake. Why are you getting a fucking blowout when you're going to the lake?
Starting point is 01:15:21 Do you know what the lake consists of? You're hair in either a bun or a ponytail because it's wet all day because it's hot and you're swimming and then it's a campfire with your girlfriends drinking wine and roasting marshmallows and no one gives a fuck you don't wear makeup you're in a swimsuit like nobody cares like are you like on route to the ball right after you get off this canoe like you're going back to heather's house you don't have to have your hair looking nice so she's freaking out about that. Then Kristen's sitting there bleeding, and I love that then Ramona's like, what, you never cut your lip before?
Starting point is 01:15:49 You never seen blood before? Like, big deal. What about big deal? What about you just got splashed by water and you made a whole big to-do about it? How about I think blood is a whole lot worse than getting splashed? You threw a full wine glass at her face. It could have been worse. It could have cut, scarred her face, cut her eye, blinded her. She doesn't know. Could have knocked her tooth out. She threw a fucking wine glass. It could have been worse. It could have cut, scarred her face, cut her eye, blinded her.
Starting point is 01:16:05 She doesn't know. Could have knocked her tooth out. She threw a fucking wine glass. It wasn't plastic at her face. Well, Ramona apparently on the blogs now, according to Taylor Hawken, who says, just read Ramona's blog, she made it very clear that it was a plastic glass
Starting point is 01:16:19 because that makes it so much better. And she said she bought the ac unit as a gift to heather and then chiller adds girl bye but can we why is everyone doing bye felicia um it's like a new thing what's interesting is that comes from the movie friday correct yeah because it comes from the idea that like well my name is not felicia it's like well that's how little you mean to me that i don't even care to learn your name. Bye, Felicia. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:46 But I don't know why like 20 years later, why that phrase has started. I'm so tired of Kenya Moore using it. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye, Felicia. Bye, Felicia. I'll tell you one thing, though. I am not over girl bye because I love saying it.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Girl bye. Oh, yeah, I do. I do like that. That's good slang. I appreciate that one. Girl bye. Girl bye. Girl bye. That's what I say to appreciate that one girl bye girl bye girl bye that's what i say to ramona girl bye canoe bye oh my god canoe bye but the fact that she cut her lip open and
Starting point is 01:17:13 you know like you can get those weird like brain eating amoebas in a lake that's where everything lives is in a lake yeah because it's not it doesn't run through anything unless there's canals and unless the water keeps circulating, that's how all those people get those weird parasites that they snort the, the, the lake water up. It goes up into their brain. It starts gnawing away at it and they're dead within three days.
Starting point is 01:17:34 That's why I don't send them lakes. Sorry. And they're snapping turtles. There's turtles and Jason and seaweed, you know, and like Lake weed or whatever it is. Just, you know, just whatever. I or whatever it is. Just weeds.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Just whatever. I'm sure there's snakes, by the way. I'm sure there's like copperheads. Okay. No, not in lakes. There's no copperheads in lakes. Well, there is some snake. I think there's a poisonous snake that lives in lakes.
Starting point is 01:17:56 See, even more of a reason. Even if it's not poisonous, I don't want to. The snakes are in the lakes. Here's the thing. I would actually enjoy someone splashing me because that's my way to cool off. I'm sitting in a canoe. It's hot.
Starting point is 01:18:08 They're bitching. It's like she's already hot because she's menopausal and just being an old whore. So splash a little water on her. No harm, no foul. By the way, don't complain about the heat and then get mad when you get wet.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah, and the other thing was is they cut to Ramona, and she's like, yeah, so what? I did it on purpose. She deserved it. She admitted it, that she threw what? I did it on purpose. She deserved it. She admitted it, that she threw the glass at her face on purpose. I'm just terrified that a microorganism swam up into her lip. All I got to say is if you can't stay on the heat, get out of the Berkshires,
Starting point is 01:18:38 which I guess is what she's going to do, but she just, I don't know. It's just, it's to me, it's just, it's just awful, awful behavior. And I think that's the recurring theme that we see here between Nene, Ramona, others. It should all be kicked off. Unrepentant, awful behavior that's being put on national TV. And on the one hand, it's like just so entertaining for us. And therefore – and so because it's entertaining for us, it does well with the ratings. We talk about it and they get renewed and they get money and they get ultimately they get
Starting point is 01:19:09 rewarded for their awful behavior yeah it's really gross it's terrible and yet at the same time if the show didn't have ramona i would weep you know what i actually would like it better because walter has backed me he was on the computer i I'm watching real houses in New York and he literally turned around and he goes, this sounds like a bunch of like old haggard bitching. Long Island. He meets Jewish women getting in fights. You said this and you don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And we're going to go to Florida. And what are you going to do? And I, this bagel is too stale. I can't eat this bagel. This bagel is too fresh. It's too fresh. I can't eat this. And. This bagel is too fresh. It's too fresh. I can't eat this.
Starting point is 01:19:46 It needs to stay. It's like, oh, my God, you're never fucking happy. Yeah. Like, just a bunch of unhappy, bitching old women. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. What did you think about Carol's L.A. house? By the way, where is it? It looked like she lived in a gingerbread house.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I know. I'm like, where did that come from? Where does Carol live in that tiny little gingerbread house? I thought it was cute. I'm like, where did that come from? Where does Carol live? In that tiny little kitchen? I don't know. I thought it was cute. I thought it was nice. I thought it was adorable with the whitewashed floors. I loved it. I was like, I want to go to her house in LA. I know. And when she got there,
Starting point is 01:20:16 she was in the kitchen, and I was like, aha, you do use the kitchen, Carol. But then she was just pouring her dog some cereal. Oh, yeah, that's right. I never use the kitchen at all. She uses it to cook cigarettes and eat them because that's apparently how her voice sounds. I mean, I have a scratchy voice, but there's a difference between sounding and a little bit of rasp. I got a little rasp.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I'm in the vein of Rashida Jones meets Emma Stone. She's more like that woman on that commercial with the hole in her neck, who was a cheerleader and then, you know, smoked. So that should be a lesson. Smoky cheerleader. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Smoky cheerleader voice is not cute. It is not cute. And I think on that note, I think that's pretty much it. I think we have covered everything. I did not watch the Southern Charm Secrets Revealed, because I stopped watching the Secret Revealed shows, because there's no
Starting point is 01:21:09 secrets, and nothing's revealed. But I do love Southern Charm, but I did not watch it. So sorry if you were looking forward to thoughts on that. And I think that's basically it. Ronnie is supposedly coming back next week. Where is Ronnie? Is he in the Berkshires? He's in the Berkshires.
Starting point is 01:21:26 He's recovering from a champagne glass wound that he suffered when he encountered the Kraken deep in the bottom of Lake Heather. Hey, by the way, I just want a prediction right now. I want to see what people are saying out there. Do you guys feel that there is going to be a fallout with ramona and sonia or do you think because you know sonia's already on the fence about ramona she's having her ups and downs with ramona being an unsupportive mean bitch do you think that it's it's sonia is going to turn against ramona or do you think she's going to remain friends with her ben i think they'll i like that you called on me as if there's anyone else here to answer.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Yes, I have an answer. I think they'll still be friends. I think this is kind of like they're trying to create some friction, but they'll be friends. They'll be friends. Oh, by the way, I think something that happened was that that's caused some controversy is that there was a screen like coming up on the Real Housewives of New York City city and all the women were standing there and Aviva was not in the group. And so now there's fears that Aviva has been fired. Oh my God. I would love Aviva. Maybe here's the thing. Do you know that the women can actually go and say, we will not film, we will not do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it doesn't make a difference because they've all signed contracts. Good.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Well, it shouldn't. I don't like that when they do that. I think that's like, not right. I think it's like, remember it's all the girls saying film with Bethany and they started doing that and it was alienating Bethany and she got her own show out of it. So, you know, isn't, isn't that so funny on the reunions going back to Atlanta when this has become now a common thing when that comes out during the reunions where it's like, you know, you tell people not to shoot with you, or you can shoot with you, or you can shoot with you, or you can shoot with you. It's this strange fourth wall thing, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:15 where we're supposed to be watching, we're supposed to be flies on the wall seeing what it's like to live in these people's lives. And they're so upfront about how they shoot and when they shoot and things like that. It's, it's very bizarre and postmodern. Right. I think they should actually cut that out because it's giving us too much of a,
Starting point is 01:23:32 um, I think it's actually ruining it for people because, um, you'll get Brandy saying, well, we had to do this because the producers, you know, told us and Andy will go,
Starting point is 01:23:43 no, we didn't. And it's like, and everyone kind of nods like well that's not what we were told you know it's like he is it's he's against an army when he claims that because they all know that they are told they have to do shit first of all do you know i think joy oh my god secret gossip about a real housewives of beverly hills okay i don't think okay i think think Joyce is out.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah, I think that was a rumor that she was out, right? Joyce is out. But I'm told... Okay, so Carlton was looking at places to shoot for the show. And of course, Yolanda was like, we should do this amazing race on my show.
Starting point is 01:24:18 On my show. It was really funny. And then she kept bringing up her show at the dinner, which was weird. It's like, okay, we get it here on fucking real housewives. And then David Foster, oh my God, super gossip. David Foster goes, um, I go, you know, Yolanda shouldn't be on the show. You know, I'm trying to be friendly and make a conversation.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And I'm like, she shouldn't be on the show. I go, she kind of doesn't seem like she's like, is as superficial as the other women. And I did say it like that. And I like caught myself like, oh my God, did I just say that? He, he didn't catch it. He thought I was saying she's not superficial. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:50 I was saying, well, she's not as superficial as the other women. So why is she on the show? And he didn't even know. He was like, he was like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:24:56 well, we have a plan. She's going to do one more season. Then she's going to branch off and do her own show. Yeah. Lime diseases. I have known by Yolanda Foster foster or princess of malibu that failed show that brody and him and the other yeah and it was like it was so set up it lasted two
Starting point is 01:25:15 episodes they only ran two episodes and pulled it off the air yeah i remember that yeah so i think you know these people have these delusions like like, you know, these complete, like, I think they think they're going to become way more than what they are, and they're going to end up like Gretchen and Slade, where it's like, you know, you guys become so commercial, and all you do is hawk all your Real Housewives crap that nobody wants. Yeah, just because you have fans doesn't mean you have a following. Or buyers. You have fans because you act like a fucking asshole on television and that's why people are watching you but they would never be your friends in real life and they don't want to be associated with you and they don't want to buy your stupid fucking peach bellinis at walmart so just stop the madness there are very few reality stars from any show who can transition
Starting point is 01:26:00 from their main show to their own solo project look at even like snooki and jwoww they had a spinoff or dj paulie d i mean they had spinoffs from jersey shore and that show was so massively popular they were so part of pop culture yeah no one gave a shit about their spinoffs they can't do it yolanda can't do it no they want to see everyone together that's why the casting the producers know when they cast certain people that they're casting dynamics that are all going to feud and get in fights and then be friends again and then get in fights. People want to see beginning, middle, and ends. Now, when you take that one person away, I mean it's like Gretchen and Slade really – could you watch an hour of Gretchen? Never, never.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Well, there's also this narcissistic feeling, this narcissistic thing that people think their lives are so interesting that we just want to watch everything that they do. It's like, no, we want to see how you interact with other crazy bitches. Listen, I'm speaking off experience because I happen to have my very own. You did actually have your own solo show, Katie. So apparently I was exciting enough. But you didn't spin off of a group, though. You didn't spin off of a group, though. You didn't spin off of a group. So it was like the expectations are different in the sense that, like, sometimes when you see someone and they're part of an ensemble, that's really all that you want to see them as, as you just mentioned. Alexis Couture.
Starting point is 01:27:15 No one wants to see her and her stupid fucking box five failed crap and her dumb hooker dresses. Nobody cared. I think when you go into something and you're starting fresh like you already had the business like that's why i like lizzie she didn't just come out with a bikini line she had this going for years she's been working on it for years and i like that yeah yeah she went to fashion school she did this she did that i mean we're talking about her dad is like a fucking nuclear physicist or something from Yeah, she's a valedictorian. I love that she said that she's like, yeah, like I actually know how to sketch.
Starting point is 01:27:49 I know how to like source my patterns. And like I don't put myself in the ads because I think it's that's like amateurish. I was like, oh, my God. She is that I have to go through these things on a daily basis with, you know, product brands, shows, stores, everything. I do multiple things. So when I watch these shows, they infuriate me that these bitches want to come out with, like, a fucking toaster oven. And they think it's so easy. It's not easy.
Starting point is 01:28:15 They make it look easy, and it's not easy. And Lizzie is now, like, I think she's going to be, like, the secret hero for everybody. I think so, too. I'm going for her. But she might just get crazy at the end. So next week she gets into it with Vicky and I'm excited for that. So anyway, um,
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