Watch What Crappens - #133: Geo-Caching and Rumor Mills

Episode Date: June 25, 2014

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TrashTalkTVRecaps.com Thanks, guys. So, now, for some of you listening, you may recognize a different laugh happening, because we actually have a peanut gallery this week. We have a real peanut gallery. They're not actually guests. They're just people who happen to be in my apartment

still while I'm recording. And we crashed, because we were like, I want to be on a podcast. So, the voices, the very ethnic voices that you're hearing are... How dare you? That would be Jenny back there. She's an Asian.

She's Asian, but she's actually German. And this is Wole. I'm a black. It's so unfortunate that we didn't watch Marriage to Medicine this week. Actually, I did watch it. Did you not watch it? I thought we weren't supposed to watch it anymore. Why don't you just kick off Mariah Huck, who gave nothing but her soul and her life so you could have a TV show,

and then you just used and abused her and let her go. Now she's making a diet shake for black people because she has no storyline left. And her mom has a big giant wig. Now, okay, for someone who doesn't watch Married to Medicine, what does she do? She's an actual doctor, right? No. No, she is

the exact opposite of a doctor. A doctor represents the height of perhaps education and training and discipline and focus. She is everything that's not that. Yeah, a doctor fixes things. Mariah infects things. She's the that. Yeah. A doctor fixes things. Mariah, like, infects things. She's like the illness.

She's why there are doctors. Yeah. So she came up, if you know what I'm saying. She married a doctor. And she's basically, like, from the hood. She's, I think, from Detroit, right? Or is that Quad? I don't know.

So what did Mariah do this week she was pushing her diet well all the girls went on this uh honey this couple's trip okay and they quad said she wouldn't go if mariah was there because she's so negative right and so and she lied on my face and so um a lot of my face a lot of my face mariah out and my face. They voted Mariah out, and so Mariah couldn't go. And so instead, she had these really tacky white. And you know what? Thank you, Married to Medicine, for giving us some tacky white queens. Because I feel like it's kind of evening out the things in Atlanta.

Because they show the most horrible gays in Atlanta. Yeah. But this week, we got really pasty, horrible white ones. And they were like, girl girl we are your best girlfriends girl if you don't have girlfriends you always got us okay this is our remodeled barn girl I'm gonna pull out quads of weed for you

oh my god and then like 20 gay guys across America got beat up so thanks a lot lots of doctors were called during that hour and then that was it and so she like had to find new friends and she basically got kicked off her own show cause that's her Lots of doctors were called during that hour. I'm so shocked. And then that was it. And so she had to find new friends.

And she basically got kicked off her own show. Because that's her show, you know? Yeah. Mariah's also... She happens to be one of the producers on Married to Medicine. And yet, none of the cast members like her, basically. Are you serious? Which is...

I think that's the most brilliant part of the entire show. Everyone's turned on her. And she's the one who writes the show. You vote me off the island? Oh, really? Well, I veto your votes, bitches. She's like, I'm with the show.

Really? Because you're at some gay guy's barn right now filled with, like, crate and barrel furniture. So I don't think you won. Marriage and medicine is basically, like,

one hour of listening to very mixed metaphors. Like, everything is wrong. Like, a few weeks ago, Mariah was like, they thought they could beat the queen. They thought they could beat the queen. They thought they could beat the queen.

But he always, never forget the first rule of chess, always protect the queen. It's like, no, it's the king you protect, not the queen at all. Oh, so it's kind of like a bunch of Phaedras from Housewives of Atlanta? Phaedra looks like a noble laureate compared to these women.

Yeah, this show needs to be canceled. Earth makes sense, you know? It's like they're trying to be Phaedra, but they don't know English very well. So they're kind of stumbling all over. There's like Toya. So Toya's famous for her grammatical gaps because she talks like this, and she's like, what I should've did

was go to the bottle of the gays and be like, I want this bond. I'm gonna get Eugene to buy this bond for me, so that's what I should have did, because I have came to this bar. Oh, my God. Are you for real? Or I'm just wearing a banner with you in that voice. Oh, no, you can.

Well, you are more than welcome to talk in Toya's voice. I don't even know who she is, but I just like. That's what she sounds like at all times. She calls the drug czar. Last season, she referred to the drug czar as the drug kazar. Oh, I love stupid people like that. That's like... Okay, do you notice I keep going back to Housewives

only because that's the one I watch? Same thing. Like the girl from... Who was the one who was like the Underground Railroad's a real railroad? Oh, that's Portia. Portia. Oh, bless her heart.

She's very special. How'd they fit on that train How they get in there The conductor I don't know what they all gonna do It don't make no sense y'all It's not like today's times And they're like Portia because you know

It's not a real train But you know it's gonna be okay That shows where the state of black education is people We need black people to get more edumacated Every time I get off the train I go Yeah I'm free okay, that shows where the state of black education is, people. We need black people to get more edumacated. That's what we need. Every time I get off the train, I go, yeah, I'm free. She does. She raises the banner.

Ronnie's very funny. Ronnie, you're funny. My friends are finally discovering the joy that is Ronnie. Oh, guys. I always knew. Deep in my heart. I never met you. I want to switch you for Ben.

Ben, I'm sorry. I made you lunch. I'm fick heart. I never met you. I want to switch you for Ben. Ben, I'm sorry. I made you lunch. I'm fickle. I made you lunch. Okay, so that was pretty much all for Married to Medicine, except I guess you could just watch it. We'll talk about it next week, because now that I'm caught up, I'll be a hypocrite and make you watch.

I would like everyone to know that Ronnie is the one who texted me and said, there are too many shows. We can't do it. We have to cut a show. I was like, okay, we'll cut Married to Medicine. So here I am not watching Married to Medicine, and it's Ronnie's fault. In my defense, TV is falling, okay? TV is falling, you guys.

Okay, we had this golden age of scripted television where there was so much good TV. It's over. There's nothing on. Orange is the New Black is terrible now. What else is on this? Everything's terrible. I watched Married to Medicine over Orange is the New Black is terrible now. What else is on this? Everything's terrible. I watched Married to Medicine over Orange is the New Black. Wow.

Come on, guys. I haven't seen the whole new season yet, so I cannot verify. Oh, is it? And they're all wearing hair and makeup. Like, bitches, you're in jail. When did you get hair and makeup? They're all acting like they're in some musical in El Paso, Texas when they're 16. Their acting's really big.

They're like dancing around. It's too much. They're like Muppet Babies. It sounds actually just like Married to Medicine. You guys did a switch. What's the girl who was on the Time Magazine thing? Laverne Cox. There you go. She could pop on Married to Medicine I guess for an episode.

I don't even know who Laverne Cox is. Shame on you. She could pop on Married in Medicine, I guess, for an episode. I don't even know who Laverne Cox is. Shame on you. I can't believe you don't know who that is. She's a transgender woman who was on the Covertown magazine. Oh my god, her last name is Cox. She's a transgender, so it's not like she's going to be anything

non-witty or whatever. Oh, penis. I don't know what that is. I don't know what you're talking about. Sorry. I was just about to say, did Quatini have a ridiculous comment? I'm like, no, we don't even what you're talking about. I don't know. This is, you know what's funny? I was just about to say, did Quad Tenny, like, have, like, a ridiculous comment? I'm like, no, we don't even need Quad. We got Wole right here. Oh, well, you know, like, his transgender doesn't have to be witty, so it could be, like, penis or...

No, I feel like if you go through the trouble to add a penis on, you should also, like, change your last name. Yeah. Well, he took his penis off. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know what I mean. I get what you're saying. But back to the show. I'm derailing your show. Sorry, guys. That's okay. You know, that's the fun of a podcast that you have tangents. And if they pertain to penises coming on and off, then so be it. slides. We talk about removable penises a lot. Yeah. We are talking about marriage medicine. It is a medical

procedure, so technically we are still on message. Okay, I'll give you guys a choice of what's next. Yeah. Candy's Wedding, Ladies of London, or The Real Housewives of Orange County or The Real Housewives of New York. Why don't we do Candy's Wedding since we're already

on Sunday with Marriage Medicine. Let's talk about Candy's wedding for a little bit. My first note is Derek J opens this episode doing somebody's hair. I don't even know. Oh, yeah. He's talking like Mama Joyce or something. And I wrote down Derek moves his lips while other people talk.

I hate that. I hate when you're telling somebody something and they're moving their lips back at you like they know exactly what you're saying. And you're just so stupid and they're moving their lips back at you like they know exactly what you're saying. Yes. And you're just so stupid and they're so smart that they already see it coming. You know what, Derek J., you need to shut the fuck up. You don't know what I'm about to say.

If you did, you would not be moving your lips like that because you'd be telling yourself to shut the fuck up, Derek J. Because you think you know everything. Well, I've never noticed that, but I'm sure I will now become obsessed with him doing that, because that's also something that I really hate. I really hate when people do that, because it's almost like they're trying to, like, rush you to the end of the sentence, and I'm like, no, I want to take my time with this sentence.

Yeah, like, I'm a hairdresser. I hear this shit every day. I am a unique snowflake. You do not hear this shit every day. Stop mouthing my words back at me. It's like really bad karaoke. I love me some karaoke. I know. Don't get Wole to start singing.

Because he'll sing right now on the podcast. That was a really bad way of trying to goad me to sing. That ain't happening. So are they married yet on the show? No. The season finale is coming this week. But the big issue on this week's episode

was that Candy and Todd still hadn't signed their prenup. Or I guess Todd hadn't signed the prenup. What did he do? What Todd does is he's professionally Candy's fiancé. Well, they met because he was a producer on the show. He was not a producer. He was a camera guy. He was a camera guy.

He was like a PA. Oh, really? He's not even a producer? Oh, sweet. He doesn't want no scrubs. Oh, Jenny. Jenny speaks it like it is. Yeah, she just got some scrubs.

Yeah, you're right. The sad part is that based on Candy's previous boyfriends that she had on the show, a PA on the show she's working on is actually a step up from the scrubs. Oh, snap. Candy, get back at him. That's Ben Maldacur. It's something something on Twitter. Candy, no.

I can't believe that I thought he was like a producer or something. He was a PA. No wonder everybody thinks he's using her. He is. You don't fuck the PA. You don't marry a PA. Okay, you can fuck them, but you do not marry them. I mean, do we marry our PAs? No. We fuck them and send them home. That's't marry a PA. Okay, you can fuck them, but you do not marry them. I mean, do we marry our

PAs? No. We fuck them and send them home. That's what it's about. But maybe she liked them. I don't know. I just find it funny because I haven't been watching the Kanye thing. I've been seeing clips. Because my thing is like, what's up with Mama Joyce? This woman, like

here's the thing. I'm black. I know I don't always shout it but I swear to God I is like full on anywho I'm not a happy what do you mean like you're being like

I know I don't sound black you sound so black no it depends on how I go because sometimes I try to get all intellectual anyway no but I bring it up

because like is that how intellectual is speaking okay I am now intellectual okay we are going to have an intellectual conversation everyone becomes Claire Huxtable.

I love Claire Huxtable. I like how you're trying to get your street cred on everybody saying, I am. Wait, don't slam the table. I know it's very delicate. I'm sorry. I bring it up, though, because the thing is, like, Mama Joyce, why she got to get always like crazy? I have to be like, I'm going to show you outside.

Like, oh, come on, bitch. This is the way it's going to go. I'm going to fuck you up in a woman. You are like a 65-year-old. Like, grandma, calm the heck down. I'll cut that bitch. That hoe. That lady is using you, Candy.

No wonder she's smiling. She hit the lottery. That bitch hit the lottery. I heard on the street she blow people for money, Candy. Because I let me take my teeth out and I'll show you how to blow a man. No, no, what I really want to see now because when they always get that crazy...

Yeah, thank you for intellectualizing. I'm only happy because it's the only show I know because I wanted to jump in. That's why they call her Gummy Bear. See? See? Mama. Was this the episode though where we're like That's why they call her Gummy Bear. See? Now. Mama. See?

Ron is going to learn all these things from your mama. Was this the episode, though, where, like, Todd's mom went after, like... No, that was last week. Damn it. Oh, I'm sorry. I saw that clip. Because I wanted to see them two go at it. She was like, you picked the wrong one.

And it's like grandma versus grandma. Could you imagine if they started fighting? You got the wrong one now, bitch. Yeah. Could you imagine if they started fighting? We saw it. We don't have to imagine. If no one else was around, it actually got to

scrap it and shit. Mama Joyce would have been on the fucking floor. It's always the bully that can't fight. I agree. Does Tiny come on the show? Tiny? No, but Weenie does. Weenie. Oh.

Yo, stop fighting! This one is a bad game This woman in that family screams so much So So I think so Getting back to the actual episode So there was some stuff with the prenup But I don't think anyone cared about that, right? Yes, of course.

Okay. So after all this time, Candy has been after Todd to sign this prenup, right? And he's like, I don't know, babe. You know, I've given up a lot of PA work. He really hasn't. He's like, you need to move cords in London. And I said, no. So you owe me half of your living.

I mean, that's changed the whole show for me, knowing that he was a PA. I can't believe you didn't realize this, Ronnie. No, I thought he was a producer. I was like, oh my god, he's actually giving up his own career to work on yours. You owe him half. Okay, so this week, we finally find out what all this pre-nut drama is. First of all, Todd is telling his lawyer

that he deserves part of the profits of whatever he does with Candy while they're married. Well, the lawyer, of course, is like, no, that's bullshit. You're giving up work. So if she dies or something, of course, you would get that money if you work on a musical. But that's not the case.

He didn't tell the truth because he's apparently already making 50% of whatever Candy's making. So she produces this musical, and he gets, did I say mucosal? She produces this musical with him as her partner, and she paid him 50% of the profits. Right. And now he's saying that he's entitled to more if he does. He's not. And what happened was, there was actually kind of an awkward moment

because Todd was on the phone with the lawyer, and the lawyer was like, I can't talk to Candy. That's unethical. And then Candy's like, see, no, I've already paid him, like, 50%. And then the lawyer is just like, okay. And, like, you could tell the lawyer was like, see, now I've already paid him like 50%. So, and then the lawyer is just like, okay. And like, you could tell the lawyer was like, this is my fucking client has not told me about any of the details.

And now I look like a jackass on TV. Yeah, he looks like a jackass and Todd is a fucking liar. So now, you know, other things that Todd was offended, I can see like Candy has a clause in there that if Todd ever like runs into a tree and becomes a vegetable or something, that she could just divorce him and not pay him any money. Which is pretty cool.

Really? Yeah. I like Candy. I think she should have all the power. I love Candy. Yeah, she's like, you can't talk. Bye. Listen, I don't think that Todd is the user that Mama Joyce thinks that he is, but I also don't think that Todd is, like, the...

He's not the breadwinner that he tries to make himself out to be. You know, he does act like... He's the trifle and good-for-nothing type of brother? Yeah. Let's go to any other 90s, like, hip-hop song. Those are all her lyrics, though. I know, that's what she does. I agree.

Those are her words. She wrote all those things. I'm just concerned that he can't pay no bills. Bills, bills. That's the same song. Yeah, I know. That's why I said it, Jenny. Kathy wrote that song?

Yeah. What else did she write, Jenny? Didn't she read all the early Destiny's Child? She wrote all of Destiny's Child. She wrote No Scrubs. Can we go back to Escape? She did not write all of Destiny's Child. You guys, this whole show is a revelation.

Okay, this show has changed me. Now I'm a fan of Candy I hate Todd he's a user I agree with Mama Joyce he needs to go and Candy's the best thing ever I love her

Candy's always been the best thing ever ever that's why this is the only Bravo wedding spin-off that I watch voluntarily do you know that this is

actually the highest rated one out of them all well the other thing is one of the reasons why it's getting such high ratings one of the theories is that Bravo did not give it its own name like Candy's wedding they're calling it the Real Housewives of Atlanta one out of them all. Well, the other thing is one of the reasons why it's getting such high ratings, one of the theories is that Bravo did not give it

its own name, like Candy's Wedding. They're calling it the Real Housewives of Atlanta colon Candy's Wedding. Yeah, my thing is taping it. I don't know what, I'm like,

what housewives is that? Exactly, and that counts. That counts for the ratings. Yeah, I'm wondering what's going on. Why are they doing that? Because it's sort of like tricking people,

like their DVRs recorded it anyway because they had season passes to Real Houseouses of Atlanta. But it makes sense. But on top of everything else, though, I don't care about Nini's wedding because Nini is like a narcissistic bitch.

Candy... Nini, that's Ben Baldeco at B-Side Blog. And if you want to chime in on this conversation, be sure to like our podcast Facebook page, which is facebook.com forward slash What are you talking about? Get back to it.

Yeah. No, we forgot to plug our own page earlier. But like Candy, though, Candy is someone that everyone, I think, likes. And she's talented. I think she's smart. But she also has this crazy situation where she's got this awful mother and she's got a fian's not... I think she's smart, but she also has this crazy situation

where she's got this awful mother and she's got a fiancé that, you know, more or less is a good guy. And she's sort of in an untenable situation and there is inherent drama and conflict in her story. As opposed to like, oh, what's Kim Zolciak going to do?

Her bridesmaid is mad and there's only three days to the wedding like no one gives a shit you know what all of that was just a really long way of saying old ladies fighting it is old ladies fighting that is why I watch it where else do you get to see old ladies beat the shit out of each other

nowhere give VH1 another year or two cause they will find a way to make that a TV show excuse me I tried to pitch a show like that about old ladies and everyone was like no no one wants to see old ladies I was like fuck you all I want to see old ladies how about a show called

instead of Love and Hip Hop you could have Love and Motown and it'll just be like Aretha beating the shit out of people I just had a really bad vision of like remember when Aretha lost the weight because she had the surgery I'm sorry that's going to sound really bad. No, no, no. It's alright. Y'all are evil on this podcast.

Oh, no. This is an evil podcast. Yeah, you shouldn't have given your name at the beginning. Duh. My name is James, y'all. That's what it's about. His name is Roderick Holmes. I'm just intellectual. We just framed a friend White James. I'm just intellectual. We just framed a friend of ours.

So what I was going to say, though, is what was also funny to me on this episode was at one point, like Tan said regarding Carmen. She's like, well, Carmen and I put aside our differences so we can move ahead with this wedding. I was like, oh, I'm so glad you guys put aside your differences that no one cared about. Like, who cared that you guys got sort of mad at the bar the other night? It was like for three seconds on the show. So the fact that she says it as if there's like, oh,

oh, good. Like, good. We can move forward with this wedding. Just crack me up. I still love all the Mama Joy stuff. So she's in the beauty parlor talking to Derek Jay. And just the delusion with this woman. She doesn't tell anything like it really happened. Yeah.

So that old lady fight was basically her calling the other mother a whore. And saying the dad was a pimp. And the son is a user and all this. And finally the lady started getting mad. And Mama Joyce is putting her finger in her face. Like trying to jump over the table to beat the shit out of her and that's when she says you got the wrong one now bitch okay so this is Mama's

version of it what did I do did that drunk lady call me a bitch she's this victim it is hilarious and then he's like trying to get her to explain herself in a way that makes sense. And she goes, look, it's like this.

When he gets up to hit that home run, they run off and marry a white girl. What? What? I don't even remember that part. What? I had to rewind it so I could write it down. I did not understand that. And the other thing that happened in this episode

is instead of getting... Candy was like, you better respect me and not get a stripper. I don't want your penis in anybody's mouth. I don't want it in their vagina, in their ear, whatever. Well, so he's like, okay, fine, you too. So guess what she had? Fat midgets. That is not nice.

They had fat midgets? She had a fat mid? Fat midgets. That is not nice. They had fat midgets? She had a fat midget twerking. That is hilarious. And the fat midget got onto a table and the table fell apart. But here's the thing though. As Todd or whatever, Candy is obviously the breadwinner and he ain't doing nothing special or whatever. You have to do what she says

because she's going to cut you off. Yeah, exactly. Well, especially now. Like Mariah and Nick Cannon. Yes, I don't know. There was no need for Mariah Carey. Sorry. Jenny's trying to interject.

I'm about to tindering. Yeah, go enjoy that. Kid Cudi is writing me right now. We have a lot of things happening on this podcast right now. There's romance. There's delusion. So, yeah, I know what you're saying though about Mama Joyce though.

She keeps on banding about the fact that this woman said just once, like, shut up, bitch. And so the whole episode she's like, oh, is that before she called me a bitch or whatever? As if that was the touchstone of the argument. Like they started fighting because the woman called her a bitch. It drives me nuts. I hate people like that. Like they finally get the other person to make one mistake and then they repeat it over and over again.

Another gross thing that happened besides using a midget fat person for your pleasure was that they used that dead brother again. In a fight last week, Mama Joyce is like, I swear my dead baby!

Oh my god. Please don't. So this week, K Joyce is like, I swear, my dead baby! Oh my God. Please don't. So this week, Candy used her brother and was like, well, Mama's been mean to me, so I took her to the gravesite, so she'd have to be nice. What? Mama, you gotta be nice to Patrick.

See? Riley, come see your dead uncle. Riley. See? No, Mama. He's dead. He's dead. That's the worst her. Dead uncle, mama. See now, mama, it's dead. She's dead. It's the worst feeling in the world, mama. I like your Kermit the Frog version of Candy. Oh, so Wally, you don't know this.

My version of Candy sounds really nothing like her, but the thing is, Candy has the hardest voice to impersonate because it's high and then really low and then growly. Yeah, and it depends on how she wants it to go. She's being sarcastic yeah she'd be like see now mama see now why you got back like that it's not an impression it's an interpretation it is it is i get i'm not not i just i just find it very entertaining Hello I love that So they were talking about how Patrick When Patrick died how they both felt I don't know why I'm laughing this is so horrible

This is actually like a nice moment Oh you know I miss him so much I think of him every day and I remember How he used to come between us when we would Fight and I miss him and I really wish we could Have seen him grow up and stuff. And then Mama Joyce is like, when he died he came to me and he was

like, Mama, it's okay. Don't cry. Don't let Candy ever date a PA. Don't ever let somebody use her for all her money and take it away and leave me with nothing if I'm old. And then

he left. That is not what happened, Mama Joy. And how can you prove her wrong? Well, I also like the fact that Kenny's like, oh, I talk to Patrick, like, every day. And Mama Joy's like, yeah, they can't do it once. Well, maybe you should look at yourself if the ghost isn't coming back to you. If the ghost is scared of you

and you're not scared of the ghost, then you really are the problem there. Yeah. The ghost is like, how's Mom? I'm not fucking back to you. If the ghost is scared of you and you're not scared of the ghost, then you really are the problem there. Yeah. The ghost is like Cal's mom. I'm not fucking talking to her. She's still trying to take money out of my Wells Fargo account. The ghost is like Woo! I'm staying away from that bitch. Woo! She's crazy. She's like, I'm up here

trying to date a hot ghost and Mama Joyce will not let me marry her. Mama Joyce is like at the pottery wheel waiting but nothing. She's like, that ghost reference! I know where you were going with the ghost reference! That was a romantic ghost reference. Patrick Swayze shows up, he's like, oops, wrong lady.

Mama Joyce is all hugging Whoopi Goldberg. That is the most disgusting visual I just had! Because she was like in a bra I'm sorry okay never mind so did anything else happen on this show should we move on

to OC OC was good this week sure OC was good yeah OC is good every week

I can't believe how good this season is first of all Ronnie I have to give you I have to give you a little bit of a golf clap like a little golf clap because you put up that amazing photo of Brooks naked

oh actually we have to say thank you to Cindy C because as much as I thought that would be a hilarious idea I was too lazy to do it and the next day she tagged me and it was like hey here's your next photo and I was like yes Cindy C it's going to be posted you did a great job Cindy C because that is the funniest thing.

Yeah, it's basically naked Brooks, you know, because they got a massage. Vicky and Brooks got a massage this week in Mexico, and it was horrifying. And they took off his towel. I don't know what these people are thinking when they're shooting, but I will never shoot again. Let's just say that. So they took off his towel, his pasty ass, and so now it's up on our Facebook page. And the comments are hilarious on it. Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's a really horrifying thing. It looks sort of like a loaf of bread before it's been cooked. You know, big and pasty. Here, I'm showing it to Wole right now. Oh, that's... Like, he showed himself? He did that, like, purposely? Yeah, if you could put, like, a time camera on dough rising...

Yeah. It really looks like Rising Doe. He does. Damn, he is pale and pasty. Yeah, he is, like, you can see, like, right by his head is where, like, that's near the heat source a little bit. And in the middle, there's a big old air bubble right in the middle. Not bad yet.

Wait, wait, so he's married to somebody on the show? No. No, he's dating Vicky, who's, like, the main OG. Oh, no. Okay, because, like, I was telling Ben when he was mentioning, like, I used to. He's like the main OG. Oh, no. Okay, because I was telling Ben when you mentioned it. I used to watch OC back in the day. I miss the original Joe. What was it, Joe?

Joe, yeah. Joe and the sane one with the woman, the blonde, the kid. Oh, yeah. It's nothing like that. I know. It's all James. I feel like we're playing celebrity right now. I know.

All right. She's the sane one. She's on Real Housewives. She's the blonde one. No, no, different one. Different one, different one. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to... So, well, much has changed since that first season of L.A.

I watched like two or three seasons, but I know Vicky. Just really quick while we're still talking about Naked Brooks, I just wanted to say to the listeners, your comments are hilarious and people are posting pictures of just people screaming and freaking out, which is hilarious. And I especially love the people who get seriously mad.

Like the guy who's like, unfollowed! That is disgusting! Listen, fucker, if it is allowed to be on Bravo, it is allowed to be on Facebook. Get over your damn self. Yeah, that's true. Oh, is that like, wait, I'm just looking at the picture now. Oh, is that like Cloud over his penis? Yeah just looking at the picture now. Oh, is that like like cloud over his penis? Yeah.

I thought that was just I thought that was just more of his pasted ass. He thought it was just like a small billow of smoke. I thought it was just like some more paste or whatever. Oh, shit. Don't touch this cable, by the way. I have a very sensitive microphone and if you touch it, the entire thing freezes. This guy's like a toothless deadbeat dad

user who's like being sued from different states for children he hasn't paid for. He's just awful. In a reunion show, he called himself Girth Brooks. Which is the name of a gay porn star, I'd like to add. So what happened to Vicky's old husband?

I'm sorry. I'm just the dumb one who doesn't know anything. I'm sorry. I can say it in short. Okay. They got divorced. I guess he. I can say it in short. Okay. They got divorced. I guess he was abusive or something. Or maybe he drank too much. Or he just didn't want to be with Vicky.

Sorry, Vicky. Good luck with you with... No, it was her choice. She wanted to get divorced. But now she has to pay him alimony. So now she's pissed. Oh, that's so embarrassing as a guy. Speaking of divorce, this is a great segue. So the big story

with this week's episode is that Shannon, who is a new cast member this season, Oli and Jenny, for you guys, she's this nagging wife who has kind of driven her husband insane, and he has

kind of left her. He sent her an kind of left her he sent her an email saying i uh i i like i want to move out and so she only told tamra about this and tamra is like pretty much one of the worst people in history of the world like worse than way worse than mama joyce could ever be like she's really like at the bottom of the barrel and then tamra told uh heather And then Tamara told Heather and Heather is sort of like an ice queen bitch. OK, so Shannon is having tea with Tamara and we like Shannon. Shannon's like even though she's like very wealthy and crazy, she's very relatable. And she's she's talking to Tamara about how she's scared about her her marriage and everything's falling apart, etc., etc. And she gets a text in the middle of this discussion saying that Heather is going around talking about Shannon's email that Shannon received from her husband. And Shannon had only told Tamara.

So Shannon's like, Tamara, did you tell Heather? And Tamara's like, absolutely not. I did not tell her at all. And that was the first five minutes of the episode. And then everything kind of exploded from there. Ronnie, what did you think about the situation? Oh, my God. I only wrote three notes because this episode was so good.

I wrote, Heather misplaced a dimple because, like, her husband's a plastic surgeon who won't stop working on her and she looks crazy. And now she has a dimple on the left side of her chin where nobody has a dimple. It's like Batman getting punched in the face and someone pressing pause. Like, where the fuck did that dimple come from? You know what's so funny? I actually feel like I saw that. I didn't think of it as a dimple, but I saw that weird indent. What is that?

It's so bizarre. And then I wrote, Heather, when Shannon comes to her house to yell at her, Heather's like, I thought you were here to apologize. Okay, so basically what happens is Shannon's really kind of crazy at this point. And later in the episode, we learn that he wasn't ever leaving her. They're just that couple that's always fighting and trying to get everybody involved in their drama because they have nothing else to talk about apart.

And one is in the same room. Yes, that's correct. Jenny knows some of this. Finally knows something. Shannon's like, oh, well, Heather's talking about me. Oh, well, I'll just go to Heather's house. Who does that? You don't just knock on the door. I mean, even if you're the fucking mailman

and you knock on my door, I'm going to kick your ass. I could be taking a nap. You don't just knock on my door. Who does that? Nobody. Well, the thing is, what happened was David decided to come back.

And so now they're going to be a happy family again. But now that there's this rumor going out there that they're getting divorced. And so family again. But now that there's this rumor going on there that they're getting divorced. And so that's what Shannon wanted to close, wanted to lock down is to kill this rumor because they're not going to be like, Oh,

I'm so glad I worked it out with David. He came home and he apologized. And now I I've had my wake up call and I am doing the best I can to make sure that our marriage lasts. And the second he comes in, she's like, look girls, your dad's eating before dinner again, just like

he does every single day. That's actually exactly what happened. If dinner was on the table, I wouldn't have to eat chips! So this is going to work out great. So the thing is that that, so Heather, I'm sorry, Shannon goes over to Heather's house because she

wants to find out from Heather who told her about the email because Tamara says she didn't hear about it. So Heather is, again, expecting an apology, which is hilarious. And this whole entire situation that she wants an apology because in a previous episode, I think maybe two episodes ago, there was a holiday party. They got in a fight. They got in a fight. And basically Shannon was like, Heather, you're just so condescending. That's pretty much all she said.

So Heather wants an apology from that, and she thought she was getting one. Instead, Shannon was like, listen, there's this rumor going around that's really hurtful. Can you just tell me where you found it from? And Heather keeps going about the apology. So Shannon does apologize, by the way. Shannon says, you know what, I'm really sorry. Yeah, she says it in that way.

That's like, well, I just knocked on your door. It's the middle of the night. I'm drinking your liquor, sitting on your couch, about to yell at you. And I'm very sorry that I did that. But I heard that you talked about me and David. And I just want to talk about that. And Heather's like, I think it's funny that you would come to my house and you would ask me questions about things when you think i am condescending and a rude and it's like well heather now i just said that because you were

being condescending and rude and heather's like you need to go you need to get out my kids are in the house this is done goodbye that's exactly so she but the funny thing is that that was that heather was the one who made a whole big point about like the moment you have any issue with me just come and talk to me

I don't think she meant drive to my house in the fucking middle of the night when my children are home to yell at me for something some email

about that poor Tamara spreading get out of here it was like 6pm it wasn't the middle of the night it is dark well it was

Christmas time have some respect. Orange County, 6 p.m. is late. Yeah. So I guess my question is this. So ultimately, Tamara fessed up. She did tell Heather. Only because she did it on camera.

Yeah. Well, so Tamara's reasoning was, look, what I was telling Heather was lay off Shannon a little bit. She's going through some tough times. This is what's happening. You know, they're having some marital issues. And then Heather's then side of that for why she gossips about it was that she then went to lunch and her friend – what did she say? She said her friend said what's going on with –

Something like her friends – Like what's going on with you and Shannon? And she's like, well, I guess she's going through some marital things. I don't know. Whatever said what's going on like her friends were like what's going on with you and shannon and she's like well i guess she's going through some marital things i don't know whatever let's move on that's what that's what i have to say i don't think that tamra should have told necessarily heather about the email and she shouldn't have gossiped but i do sort of get what she was doing i don't think it's like the worst moment of Tamra being Tamra. You know, I get that, being like, listen, just lay off her. She's going through some issues right now.

I think it's okay to say that. No. I mean, if you go to somebody and you, if I came to you and told you something secretive and then we were out to brunch and Jenny brought it up, I would jump over the table and mama-joyce your ass. Well, no, but like, if you were having, if you were, if Jenny were attacking you, if you and having, if you were, if Jenny were attacking you,

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Well, I think that Skype was like, do not talk about Ronnie and Jenny fighting. We can't take it. I will not care of this. We will not be a part of this. No, no, but here's my thing. Ben, I get what you're saying, but I think in a situation like that,

you could say, hey, they're going through something rough. Yes, exactly. And keep it general. You don't say specifically what it is. I would not have mentioned the email. That's what it is. Yeah. I don't know what the email is.

Well, the irony is that when Tamara mentioned this, it came on the heels of her and Heather having this whole heart-to-heart because she was mad at Heather for sharing privileged information. And then she went and turned around and gave privileged information to Heather about Shannon. So that's like the funny, I don't know if it's like funny, but that's like the craziness of it. That's why Tamara's such an evil person. I think it's okay to keep it general. Okay. Two things. First of all, Shannon said it on

national TV. So whatever the secret is, bullshit, because you're on TV and you talk about it. So shut up. You're the one spreading the rumor. Nobody else. I do get that Tamara's a terrible friend, but we all knew that. And bitch, you're on tv and you talked about it so shut up you're the one spreading the rumor nobody else i do get that tamra's a terrible friend but we all knew that and bitch you saw this show before you came on it so don't act like you're so shocked that tamra's a bitch okay we've been waiting for you to rip off her head this whole time and now we're gonna get to see it hopefully okay the second thing is alex mccord from real housewives of new york as i've discussed before has a web show now on this website called Cafe Stir Mom.

It's like moms. And she does a little thing, a little web show, where she talks about the housewives from an insider's point of view. So I wanted to bring this up right now because she talks about this situation. And this is Alex's take. Well, guys, on this show. She's holding papers like she's a news lady, but she never looks at them. She's, like, acting like she's on the news, but she's, like, in her living room and everything's echoey because she doesn't have a mic.

And she's like, okay, so here is what happened on Real Housewives of Orange County. Shannon told Heather a secret. No, Shannon told Tamara a secret. Tamara told Heather. Heather a secret. No, Shannon told Tamara a secret. Tamara told Heather. Heather told everybody. Now, here is what happens on these shows from an insider's perspective, guys. Shannon may have thought she was telling her best friend, who is probably a producer, who is only doing her job because Shannon thought she was her best friend. But she's really just a producer.

And Shannon has not realized yet that the producers are out to get you and manipulate every little thing you say. And the producer ran to Tamara, and Tamara went, Alex, let it go! By the way, I believe that 100%. That's why I'm always amused in these shows whenever a secret gets out.

It's like, who told, how'd they know? I'm like, you realize that you have a producer, right? There's someone... Oh oh we have another person coming in this is amazing knocking on your fucking door another guest star it does that you got like a ton of people just jump on the podcast the audience is like what the fuck is going on this week this is a disaster and only two people know it's not like we even know about the shows. It's not like we help them. We're just being like, what is that? Who are you talking about? Tamara?

Tamara, don't do that shit. Fuck you, Tamara. I did it for real intelligence. Okay. Excuse me. It's intellectual. It's intellectual Jenny. I like to call it like Jenny from Jeff Forrest Gump. Hi, Jenny. But she's Asian, so it's like,

hi, Jenny. We basically have two podcasts going on at once, okay? Ryan and I are talking about Bravo, and these two are now having a moment, and then this other girl is about to walk in, and she doesn't even realize there's a podcast happening.

That's going to be the funniest part. Go surprise her. Surprise her on a podcast. Surprise her. Be like, hey, back to Tamra the slut. Keep going. Sorry.

That's what I say. Who's Ronnie again? No, Ronnie's here. No, I'm here. He's just waiting for us to shut the fuck up. Ronnie, I had no idea this was going to happen today. Who's over now? Well, she hasn't come up, but it's Jen.

What's your bed number? 302? 332. Sorry. It's okay. And you just said it yourself. Good job. I did it because, you know,

I knew if I tried to pantomime it to Jenny, she'd be like, what are you doing with your fingers? No, I got it! But then you said it. Jesus Christ. It's all right. Back to Bravo.

God, y'all need to stay focused. It's all right. This is actually one of our more focused podcasts. We once had a podcast where we had an entire musical interlude where we sang All I Want for Christmas is You. Where was Jenny?

Look at Jenny's face. It was Walter. Walter played it for us. She loves it. She's obsessed with the Mariah Carey. Hey, back to it. I don't have all fucking day here. All right, so the point is this.

I kind of feel like there were errors on all sides with these people, but I also feel like this quote-unquote gossiping that happened probably wasn't as malicious as it sounded when it got back to Shannon, and she's just in a sensitive place,

and I understand her being upset, but it probably wasn't as big of a deal as she thought, and like you said, she's putting it out there all on national TV, so she better get used to people gossiping. Well, I really like Shannon.

I think she's a good addition to the cast, but that bitch is crazy. She is crazy. Because now her thing is, well, Heather. I went to Heather's house just needing a hug, and Heather grabbed me by the hair, slammed my face into the mantle, shoved me outside,

made me lay in the driveway, drove over me, then called her child out who's trying to get his driver's license and had him practice running over me. And then I called David and he didn't answer the phone because he was already in bed. He didn't even care what I thought because he doesn't love me and doesn't give me a hug.

What a drama queen. I loved when Shannon, I mean, she's such a nutcase now that she went off on that girl Danielle at one point. They were all getting some essential oils and Danielle's like, well, I would... Talking about the oils and Danielle's like well I would I could talk about the situation Daniel's like I would like get a stiff drink and chance like Danielle you're being very judgmental right now I feel you being very judgmental what is this now I don't understand what the fights about I didn't even hear that part I was gonna

ask you with that girl Danielle said she probably was like I need a drink I've got a game over there is it cuz I yelled at you guys? I'm so sorry. You'll get used to it. Yeah, they're all putting on their shoes right now. They're like, bye, bitch. Sorry, guys. It was nothing personal. I do that to Ben all the time.

No, no, no. I meant to crash for five minutes, and then I'm looking, and it's like 40 minutes later, and I'm like, how the hell did we just date? It's a fucking mama choice. That's what it was. Yeah, and now we have another person in the background in the peanut gallery. Come say hi, Jen.

It's not video. She was like hiding in the background. She's lingering. Do you watch any Bravo? She loves ladies. I only watch Bravo. Oh, you're coming at the right time. We're going to switch out. do you watch any Bravo she loves Ladies of London I only watch Bravo and you

oh you're coming to the right time are we gonna switch out I'm out of town for a month so I'm not caught up on everything oh but I'm good on

Houseways Ladies of London and Orange County they're still talking about Orange County but they're finishing up then they're gonna go to Orange County we were talking about

this week's episode which is crazy right Heather yes Heather Dubrow listen you come switch in I'm Jen bye bye Wale

see you guys bye Wale take care Ronnie Jen is not ethnic stay intellectual yeah now shame on you the fact that now

we're switching a black man out for a white woman I just want to point that out where's Barack when we need him bye Wale

well we still got an Asian I'm glad we already talked about candy. Yeah, bye, Wale. All right, so we were actually... Jen has no idea what she just said. Yeah, what did I walk into? We were talking about

Shannon and Tamara and Heather. Do you have, as a lady, do you have any thoughts on this whole thing? Who do you think is right? Who do you think is wrong? Ooh, that's a hard one. Because they're all so annoying.

Are you liking this season? I stopped, and I love this season. Right, it's a great season. It is a great season. Except for Sophia Loren. Oh, you mean... Lizzie. Oh, you're just like Vicky. I'm just like...

Because Vicky didn't own in. I feel like Lizzie did something this week, didn't she? Nothing. She never does anything. She doesn't do shit. She just like, oh, obviously. Because Vicky didn't own in. Wait, so, I feel like Lizzie did something this week, didn't she? Nothing. She never does anything. She doesn't do shit. She's like, my boobs are big. Wow.

This week, what did she talk about this week? A baby. She's always talking about a baby. Oh, yeah. I need a baby. Oh, yeah. You know,

actually, that was Tamara's storyline and that's another thing. You know, we talk about Bravo storylines that get recycled. One of them is when women go to get their beavers waxed.

We see that on every show now. And now the new thing is, let's see how these women deal with a robotic baby. I'm like, I don't want to watch a woman holding a fake baby. There's nothing hilarious to me. Especially from a woman who's had five children. Yeah, exactly. to me. And it's always the same thing like... Especially from a woman who's had like five children. Yeah.

Exactly. It's like there's nothing there's nothing like funny to me like oh no gotta feed the fake baby again. Like I don't care. I don't care. I'm not here to watch that. That baby has as much rubber as Tamara does. That's true. Also that baby looks

terrified and it looks like it's had too much sun already. Although it was funny when they said it looked exactly like Vicky's grandson like it's had too much sun already. You need to get that plastic baby out of the house. It was funny when they said it looked exactly like Vicky's grandson, because it's true. It looked like baby Troy. It's like a real ugly robot baby. You know what I'm saying?

That storyline is ridiculous, and Tamara is grasping at straws to have anything to do on that show. Yeah. Well, I mean, again, Lizzie is even worse. I swear I thought Lizzie did something this week. I thought she did something. All she does is she'll stand up for people.

You know, she'll be like, Heather didn't mean to be like that. She just talks like that. She's not a bitch. She just has bitch voice. Thanks for playing, Lizzie. Bye. Alright, why don't we move on as we just, like just go through the week.

Why don't we go to Ladies of London then? Do we have anything else you have to say about Orange County? No, I think Orange County was all the Heather and Shannon drama. That was just amazing. I just love Shannon. I just want to cut together all of Shannon's craziness

and we can watch her just go crazy from the beginning. One thing we did miss was that Terry is such a shitster, first of all. Heather has said in interviews that she didn't want to do it because she considered herself a real actress, but Terry

made her because he's like the reality fame whore because he was on that show The Swan years ago and now he's on this new e-show called Botched about like fixing terrible plastic surgery and he's always like loving the fights like he sits in the background smiling like he's just loving it and he gets

the girls their drinks and then just watches from behind them so Shannon doesn't even know he's there and then Shannon's like well oh what now Tamara says I'm drinking too much so now I'm a drunk and then she drinks her vodka. Yeah, she's sitting there with a pint glass of vodka. She's like, I don't think I drink too much. I don't know why she says these things, David.

Terry's like, good job, ladies. You know what, though? Let Terry have his moment, because you know what? The poor guy is not even allowed to think for himself. You know, this is what a conversation is like with Heather. she's like well i think it's totally rude i think it's totally inappropriate why would they come over here i don't think that's right do you think that's right uh no no i don't think that's right at all thank you that's exactly what i was saying i'm glad that we're on the same page about this we're on the same page right uh yeah no we're totally on the same page exactly i think that a lot of time men get off easy because people are like, oh my god, Terry's so nice.

He's married to such a bitch. But my theory is Terry's as much of a bitch as her, but he doesn't have the balls to be that in public, so he marries a bitch to be his mouthpiece. And I think in private he's like, man, that Shannon sure is a drunk, right? And then she's like, what a drunk! You know the fake phone call, remember?

Our daughter is sick. We need to run. Terry, talk to phone call. Remember the kid? Oh, my God. Our daughter is sick. We need to run. Well, they did it again. Terry, talk to her. They did it again. When Shannon came over, they're like, okay, this can't last that long because we have that party later. You know, the surprise party.

Oh, yes, the surprise party at 1.30 in the morning. Yeah. Yeah, so that show's over. Yeah. It's canceled. We've the morning. Yeah. Yeah, so that show's over. Yeah. It's canceled. We've canceled it. Sorry. Sorry, OC.

Bye. So let's move on to Ladies of London. So let's see. I want to talk more about Annabelle. We talked about this last week, about how she always loves to call herself this rock and roll sort of punk rocker fashionista. Alexander. Alexander. Alexander McQueen.

Today I woke up and the sun came up and I almost smiled and then I remembered Alexander. But then the thing is this though, they showed inside of her flat today and it was like so, it was like grandma, it was like grandma Holly

it was like old British mum in there. Everything was like so, it was like grandma. It was like grandma Holly. It was like old British mom in there. Everything was like ornate. And she had these like little teacups and everything. I'm like, this is not punk rock, okay? Yeah, she inherited that from some old dead person and never did anything to change it. She can't even sit up. She's always like half laying down when she sits down. And I know this is a very specific comment, but her couch looks so uncomfortable.

It looks like it should be super comfortable, but based on the way that she's... Maybe that's why she sits like that. She sits laying back because she's not used to ever having a backrest. Well, I think she probably would never be comfortable in any sort of seating arrangement. She just...

I can't be comfortable when I know I'm living in a world without Alexander. This is the way that Alexander liked me to sit because I was his muse. I was his sitting muse. He wanted to design chairs before he committed suicide. And he was going to study the way I sat. But then he died. And I live with that every morning.

Every time I sit in a chair, I think of Alexander. Alexander. He loved me. He thought I was so fashionable. Alexander. He loved me. He thought I was so fashionable. Alexander. Well, I loved it. So the thing was that Annabelle, she had a fashion show this week in like a little tunnel.

And there was like flooding and everything. And I loved also, before the show started, this girl, Noelle, who we'll get into more, she comes over and she's like, you're going to have the fashion show with all the, well, the rain pouring, you know,

cause her British accent comes every fourth word. She's like all this rain. And she's like, well, yeah, I got to do it. And then, and while it's like,

well, it is fashion. I'm like, I don't understand what that means. Like why, what part of fashion means like great, like torrential downpour, like leakage,

sewage. Like, I don't, I don't understand what makes that fashion yeah that's all that's my only point really my only point i don't understand i'm so sorry thanks i didn't have anything to say that but that's so true it's not really that i guess fashion's so difficult fashion shit falling from the ceiling rats running across the road not being able to walk properly might die any moment because you're tripping over a stone fashion so difficult. Fashion ship falling from the ceiling. Rats running across the road.

Not being able to walk properly. Might die any moment because you're tripping over a stone in the runway. Just like fashion. It's like you put on clothes because otherwise you'd be fucking naked. Okay, you dumb bitch. But Alexander! I love that Juliet,

probably the most annoying American who's always yelling and stuff she also does one of the most annoying things that Americans do which is talk in questions to herself like she can't just say like oh I went down the street today

I bought some eggs and then I asked for four quarters so I could play a video game she's like did I walk down the street today? Yes. Was it a street made out of pavement? It was. Did I go to the store? Yes. Why did I go to the store? For eggs. And what did I

do when I got the eggs? I got four quarters. Why would I get four quarters? What if I pass a video game? And did I pass a video game? I did! Shut up. I never even noticed that before. You can sentence this woman. Yeah, Juliet got into a row with Caprice.

Caprice is like falling out of favor with some of these women. I knew that Caprice and... Oh, you mean Cappers? Cappers, yes. Hello, darling, it's Cappers. Terrible accent. Oh my god, Caprice is truly the worst.

And actually, one of the worst scenes of the episode was when Noelle went to Caprice to learn how to get better press. I'm like, these two famours both need to fall into the Thames and die. Yeah, she's like, I really respect what Capas has done with her career. I'm like, the bitch is naked everywhere and calls the paps to tell them about babies she's impregnating Americans with over the pond. Well, Caprice acts as if she's actually famous. I mean, maybe she's famous in London, but like, I mean, have you girls ever heard of Caprice?

No! See, Jenny doesn't even know what I'm talking about. She's a gas guzzler. She has like a juice packs that you stick a straw in. Caprice's son. Sorry, I was so stupid. But I love that Caprice is like,

she should really be friends with me if she wants to become famous. Yeah, she's like, if that girl is a smart cookie, she'll be friends with mine. Well, so Caprice's whole thing was that she decided that she didn't want What's-Her-Face to throw her the baby shower. Because, I don't know why. Oh, because she didn't like the way that she... You live like 10 hours away from the city. And who's that girl?

What's her name? I forget. I love her. Caroline? Caroline, yeah. She's like, I live 30 minutes away. She's like, it's like 20 hours. No one wants to drive there.

Let's do it at the restaurant. She's like, no, I will do it at my home where I can prepare things. She's like, no, let's go to a restaurant. And so Caroline, I think Caroline's like, fine, do it yourself, bitch. Like, how rude. Okay, not only am I not going to have it at your house

I'm going to request that you throw it at a restaurant that's going to cost like $20,000 yeah exactly I love Caroline and I love how she she demanded that Juliet apologize to Annabelle she calls up she's like you have to apologize and Juliet's like well I don't know

and she's like no you are out of line you have to this is her conversation she's like am I, I don't know. And she's like, no, you are out of line. You have to... This is her conversation. She's like, am I answering the phone right now? I am. Am I saying hello? I am. Listen here, you fucking idiot.

What were you doing out there in the middle of the street? That's not how you fight. What are you, dumb? Call her right now and say you're sorry. I have to. You do. Do it now. It was.

That's exactly how it was. And I love that. I love that Caroline's just like, this is the way it's going to be. was that's exactly how it was and i love that i love that carolyn's just like this is the way it's gonna be and that's that and caprice is so stupid for like on top of everything else since caprice is such a fame whore caroline is the only one in their circle who has any sort of station amongst them i think i mean annabelle i think is sort of has some sort of aristocratic background but caroline has like title right and And you would think that Caprice would want to have her baby shower with the lady who has the title. But no, she doesn't. Because she's mad that Caroline didn't stand up for Annabelle, I think, in the fight.

It's just, I mean, it's so crazy. Caprice, honestly, I think is the stupidest. No, because Caprice doesn't. Caprice is American. So she, like, she says British society a lot. But she doesn't care about British. She doesn't know what all the titles even fucking mean. She's an American.

She cares about the American fame. Like, she considers herself bigger than Caroline because she's been on the front page of the tabloids above. I mean, she names the celebrities. She's like, I was above Sarah, Jessica, how I care. Bitch, please. So to her, she's more famous so of course she cares what the one who was friends with Alexander thinks but not the one who could

actually introduce her to the queen meanwhile Noelle Noelle's whole story was that she was supposed to move into a new flat on Friday but then things happen so she has to move in on Monday and she's like I just don't know if I can stand for this anymore I'm like this is the most ridiculous thing you were so lucky they're even

getting a flat that you have a sugar daddy you can't complain about the fact that the move was delayed by two days and you know this isn't like a week or I need you to take care of every little detail for me I have to know that if you're my man you you're going to take care of this for me. I mean, two days is a lot. I've been sleeping on somebody's couch. Two days, you couldn't even do that? I mean, what kind of man are you that you can't get me the $10,000 a week apart? And I was like, bitch, really?

Really? I cannot believe that he didn't just break up with her right then. Oh my God. The sex must be amazing. It must be amazing because there's no way that he didn't just break up with her right then. The sex must be amazing. It must be amazing because there's no way that he... In her position, she has no room to bargain.

There are so many other girls that would take her place that wouldn't complain. I think it's just... There's such a difference between gay guys and... We always think, oh, we love these shows because we're the same. We like being catty and arguing about stupid

things. But at the end of the day, especially in relationships, we're so different because beautiful women know that they can own a man like that and he'll do whatever she wants because he can't get ass like that. Whereas gay guys are like, well, some twink will be drunk enough

in a bar and otherwise, I don't want to live with some skinny ass twink anyway. I'll feel fat. I'm like, well, I gained 20 pounds so I've got to break up with you and date a fatter guy so I don't feel stupid. Jenny, the way it works on the podcast is about at least once in every

show, Ronnie says something that's sort of like it's a peek inside his life. Oh, okay. Hey, no. I'm just saying, you know, I always find it amazing with these guys. It's like, he's a billionaire and he's worried about this stupid Tracy

Lord's looking hooker. Like, what do you care? But to him he's like, this is the last piece of ass on earth. Who knows if I'll ever find it again. I've given up my entire family for this one. Gay guys just aren't like that. I'm like, you ain't getting my money.

I can have sex with you for free. That's why gay strippers never make any money. We can just go to the gym and see that shit. Why am I going to give you a dollar? It's true. It's very true. The girls are scandalized. You'll get used to it.

So I think those are the main things that happen. And then they went to the races, and that new girl, the one who's, like, the countess, she's going to be the countess of sandwich. She... And you know that that's the only

reason they've kept her around, just to watch the Americans go, Can we have a sandwich? Yeah, exactly. She looks like a bleached blonde Kimmy Gibbler, if you ask me. Who's that? Kimmy Gibbler from Full House. Oh, yeah, I don't remember that.

I just remember the little twins being really cute, and I was wanting to have sex with John Stamos. Well, it is kind of funny to think of Juliet showing this future countess around her kitchen and being like, and then when I come back from Chicago, I get Cheez-Its and I get macaroni and cheese. I was like, oh gosh, you will never make it in British society.

I love, by the way, I love every time they bash Americans on the show that it's like the funniest thing to me. I live for that moment. I'm like, that's just so American of her. I'm like, yes. I think it's so funny. They've got such a stick up their butt.

And I like that they say things like, Americans have no tradition. That's why they like ours. We have plenty of traditions. Yeah. We like discriminating against racists for years at a time and then saying sorry. Yeah, that's a good one.

It's a great statement. Sales. I think sales started here. Yeah, that's a good one. It's a great situation. Sales. I think sales started here. Yeah, probably. Probably. Guns. Shooting things. TV. Fast food. You guys wouldn't have fast food if it weren't for us. That's true. Cars. Slut shaming.

Slut shaming. Slut shaming. Thinspiration. Totally. That's tradition. Thinspiration. We've been doing that since Mary. Thigh gap. That's a good tradition right there. Thigh gap. that's tradition we've been doing that since Mary thigh gap that's a good tradition right there repression of straight guys totally you guys poor straight guys

yeah exactly thank god for reddit we have a lot of great traditions speaking of straight guys what is cosplay that's when you dress up in a costume it's not even a sexual thing what is cosplay? Cosplay? That's when you dress up in a costume. It's not even a sexual thing. It's not a sexual thing. It's like for nerds that love cartoons.

Or they dress up like their favorite video characters. No relation to Coldplay. So that's like a thing? It's like when people go to Comic Con, that's like cosplay, when they dress up like that. Oh, good. I feel like gay people are getting a culture and straight people are just like

wallowing around doing nothing. Who does that? You're going to go dress like Mickey Mouse or whatever. I mean, what games are the kids playing these days? Mickey Mouse. Like I'm a scooter fag from Grand Theft Auto. Okay, what else? H hats, Americans have no tradition

oh yeah I wrote diabetes that's a tradition Caprice says Caroline needs everything to be about her which is hilarious all the tabloids says the woman who has like meetings with her publicist every episode and then salivates

any time her three of the letters in her name appear in an article. What else happened on this show? Baby Shower, Noel Mad, Blah Blah, Tampax Pampers. What is that about?

What? I don't understand my note. Oh, the girls are leaving. It's finally going to be just you and me. Bye. Oh, wait, they're not leaving. Yeah, it's in the bathroom. Hi. They're going up to the pool. That's right, everyone. That's how it is in LA. We have pools.

Yeah, I've got a pool on the roof. I didn't know that. Yeah. I can't wait to pee in it. Yeah, you can come up here and we can spy on MJ's apartment across the way. Hell yeah. Oh, I saw some photo of her online. Everyone's like, oh my God, look at MJ.

She's lost so much weight. Or is it Photoshopped? I'm like, Mitch, please. I saw her two weeks ago walking those dogs. That picture is not real. She just looks like she's wearing a very tight bathing suit. Yeah. Like, really, really tight.

Yeah. All right. So why don't we move on to New York City. New York. I want to point out that the ladies are staying in somewhere called the Beaver Cap. Yeah. Beaver and Antlers. Beaver Cap.

Which is, because when I think of their crotches, I do think of beavers and sharp things. So this was another week in Montana. Yeah, I have to say, the producers, I think they sent them to Montana thinking it would be like, oh, won't it be fun seeing these New York ladies in nature roughing it and all that stuff? But I think the joke kind of backfired on them because this has really been a dull vacation so far. Well, they're not roughing it and all that stuff but i think the joke kind of backfired on them because this has really been a dull vacation so far well they're not roughing it yeah at all they're walking and like if you're gonna try and do like that paris and nicole thing that simple life thing where it's like rich ladies with stupid poor people you have to show more stupid poor people

it can't just be the ladies like i don't know, maybe they should have made him go volunteer somewhere. I don't know, clean poops. I don't know, do something. Something. Yeah, I agree. So I think the first portion of the episode was Luan still getting mad at Sonia about this facialist, this stupid facialist causing such a ripple. But then it turns out that Luan just wants Sonia to like her as much as she likes Ramona. Oh.

Since when does Luan want Sonia to like her so much? And since when does Sonia have a thing where she just dislikes Luann? I just never picked up that vibe. I didn't either. But when we were introduced to Luann on the show, I do remember that her first scene was with the Countess. And she was like, oh, well, we're going to have this fabulous modeling event and we're going to do it at my friend Sonia Morgan's who's just always been the most fabulous person that I've known and she throws fabulous parties and hello

and they went through her house and stuff and that was back when Sonia was still shy and demure That was back on my blog, I did a post of the top 10 best Real Housewives. At that time, I put Sonia as number one because she was

the best. I think it was actually before Beverly Hills came around and Sonia seemed effortlessly glamorous. She seemed above it all. She would laugh everything off. The next season, she just went fully crazy and has never been the same. Yeah, she went nutso after her first year. I mean, she is like a crazy woman.

Yeah, now I think she's like a drug addict or something. Like, there's something going on there that's not just crazy. She's a little bit too much like Ellen Burstyn in Rec Room for a Dream. Oh my god, that movie. Jesus. Yeah, because you know that there's a big refrigerator that's chasing Sonia down in her head, right? I cannot look at that actress

Jennifer What's-Her-Bun's the same. What is her name? Connelly. Oh my god. I feel bad for her every time I see her. I can't believe she had to do

a double dildo scene for drugs. I'm still horrified every time I see her in a movie i'm like oh my god no wonder you're crying like she cries so good in movies i'm like no wonder all you have to do is think about your double dildo rape scene for drugs oh horrible i'll never be able to watch labyrinth the same way i think actually like you know what the dildo i think once you've had a strange like adolescent, adolescent romance with David Bowie in a masquerade,

I think a double-hunted dildo is no problem. Yeah, double-dildoing for crack is totally normal. You know, I think it's way more horrifying to have to, like, roll around with Hoggle. In the bog of eternal stench. Well, so this episode starts with Sonia being a manic in the kitchen all by herself, acting like she's cooking and talking to

interns that aren't there. Which was so bizarre. She's like, we need eggs. We need butter. What are we going to do with that? This is all disorganized. You know what? This drives me crazy. I stay up late at night thinking how disorganized this is. We've got to rearrange this right now. I just can't do this like this right now. I don't have underwear on. I don't have underwear.

Stay five feet back. Oh, God, because that young guy was in the room and she's fixing her hair like she totally has a chance with this 15-year-old. And she's like, watch out. I'm not wearing any underwear. And he's like, whoa hair like she totally has a chance with this 15 year old and she's like watch out i'm not wearing any underwear and he's like whoa i'll be back here okay tell me if you need me okay he's like whoa i thought you had a sea urchin whoa i'm sorry i thought i was looking at a sea urchin down there what do you think that sonia's vagina smells like?

Oh, smells like we're bringing this game back, huh? Yeah, why not? We haven't done it for a long time, and we had an open vagina shot in front of a refrigerator. I think it smells like a small cactus that hasn't been watered in about three days. I think it smells like, okay, you know,

when you put saran wrap over tuna salad, but then you forget that it was in the refrigerator, but then you're like, oh, it's okay. It's saran wrapped. And besides I need this Pyrex. And so you unwrap it.

And it attacks you. I think it smells like when you've cooked a chicken breast and you put it into a little container and then you come back to it four days later and you open it up and there's that weird smell and you think, wait, is this chicken breast still good to eat or is that just the smell of the chicken?

I think it smells like a fleshlight that got left in a locker room and someone forgot to wash it out for like five years. I think it smells like a pine cone that may have fallen into a vat of

marinara sauce. I think it probably smells like a sock from a teenager's bedroom that he was maybe putting some lemon cleaner, lemon pledge on to clean something

and then just had it on the floor and then used it to splooge all over. I think it smells like a teabag that someone was accidentally sitting on for three hours. I feel like it probably smells like a bus seat on a rainy day outside an old folks home. I think it smells like an armadillo that just ran across the street. I don't even know what that means I think that's a perfect place to end

an armadillo that just ran across the street has a little bit of perspiration but not too much it's like a little startled there's some pheromone in there that's like uh oh you know like the arm does

think to itself should I curl into the ball or should I just like for him oh so she was going crazy over this young child and it's just so embarrassing so later they go fly-fishing and she's in she's on the river or whatever and someone's like Oh John could you help me out she's in the she's in the river or whatever and someone's like oh john could you help me out she's like no that's not john that's steve mark is over there he's a real professional i mean he's been doing this for years like poor kids that they put on this show that sonia is just like where are you from what do you do what is your penis size what do you like do you like people with no underwear it's like like, so God woman, keep it to yourself.

Like, I don't think your sex drive has to like die, but stop raping children. It's not okay. She, I mean, she's a disaster and, and, you know, in many ways she looks fantastic this season, but when she's out of her makeup and everything, her whole like Botox filled up upper lip looks very strange. It's like, it really reads of a platypus, you know, like it'sox filled up upper lip looks very strange. It's like it really reads of a platypus, you know? Like, it's got that, it's like a bill, you know?

She looks like a scrapbook. She looks like an armadillo that just ran across the street and is now scratching its back on a stamp pile. Okay, so fly fishing. So here's the thing.

So Luan got mad at Sonya. She's probably drunk. She's like, you're not a real friend. She's not a friend. Whatever. So then the next day they have... Wait, there was something good from that now that you brought it up. So Luan gets more furious than I think we've ever seen her. Like, furious.

And like, yells and leaves. And then Sonia's like, well, you know, I mean, who cares? So this lady, this, you know, facialist is talking about how Luann likes it from ten different dicks or whatever. Who cares? And Heather's like, okay, you need to just

stop talking right now, because you're just doing more of what got her upset in the first place. And she's like, okay, you need to just stop talking right now because you're just doing more of what got her upset in the first place. And she's like, so the manicurist said that Luann, you know, likes being the bottom bitch and a bukkake. I mean, who cares? And Heather's like, okay, you made your point. Gross. I just had to write that down because Heather's saying something that genuinely made me laugh and not cringe. That's a first.

So I have to say, like, congrats, Heather. Thank you. Thank you for making me enjoy you this episode. Yes. Well, so. And then it turned into a stupid fight with Heather that I am going to hate for the next five weeks. It turned into a fight over geocaching, which is a new low for the entire franchise. Geocaching?

Geocrashing? Geo? I don't care. So here's the thing. Here are the takeaways from the episode for me. And then I will elaborate. Not that I even have to. So, all season long, I have actually, I do like Kristen. I've enjoyed her all season. But she is basically a spoiled brat. She is like a

child, and a lot of times, that side of her doesn't have to come out. But in these situations, it does. She feels very victimized at all times, whatever. So the women split up to do some activities. And so Luanne and Heather and Kristen decide to go rappelling down a cliff. Which, you know, rightfully, it's very scary. And and Kristen's like, please, guys, I'm going to tell you what I tell my asshole husband, Josh.

Don't say anything to me. I just need to get into his zone. So within seconds, Heather is such an underminer. Heather's like, you got a baby. You got a mama. Like, you know what? You don't have to do it. If it's too much for you, you don't have to do it anymore. You don't have to do it. You can turn around, you know what? You don't have to do it. If it's too much for you, you don't have to do it anymore.

You don't have to do it. You can turn around. You can stop. You don't have to do it if it's too much. No one's going to make fun of you for being a quitter. I mean, look, just come back down here. Keep the pooch. Keep that pooch that you've got there.

And just come back here. No one cares. No one's going to mind mama. It's okay, honey. It's okay if you're a loser. The only one who'll know that you couldn't do it, mama, is yourself. And, you know, that sure may haunt you, but that that's okay we won't hold that against you mama yeah it was honestly i thought it was like i thought it was actually kind of like really bitchy uh but so anyway so kristen does this

thing and she's very emotional about it and you know i actually thought she brought up a good point which sometimes you know you do find yourself in a situation where you're like, I want to prove it to myself that I can do it. And she's like, you know, what if something were to happen to me and what would happen to my kids? What happened to this and this? And just because I wanted to prove something that I could do this, like it's stupid. And I kind of agree with her 100 percent, you know. And so she was like an emotional wreck afterwards. And I don't know.

I wasn't mad at her for being like that. I mean, I thought it was fine. I thought it was OK for her to cry afterwards but then heather was totally making fun of her about it right am i this is around where i fell asleep am i am i correct she started yeah yeah yeah i'm listening to you yeah so okay so whatever so they do this whole thing and um so then they go on to the next activity, which is geocaching. Which is so funny that they decided to make these women geocache. Because it's such a random activity and such a non-cinematic activity. You know, it's like, let's walk around the GPS.

Well, I think that they're thinking it could be fun. Because it's like a treasure hunt. And watching these ladies try to find things, that would be so funny. But no one will do it like no they get wasted at lunch so everybody's just like stumbling around shit face not understanding what it is and Ramona is like bye I'm

going home this is ridiculous I'm not doing this like Ramona come on she's they said there might be lions and tigers and bears and she's like it's better than this this is stupid my father

my father always said you know you don't have to use a machine you don't have to do a geocache okay you don't want to go looking for treasure you're supposed to keep

your own treasure okay my father would always hide little things in the backyard okay and so when I would go and try to find

my father's things it would make me think of my father and that makes me think of that time in my life and it's very hard for me okay so i have to go home and i have to hold my own items i don't want someone else's hidden items okay i'm sorry that's just the way it is when i was young my mother she would start looking for her keys and she'd be like where's my keys and then my dad would go i i hid them and so you have to find them i'm gonna give you clues and my mom would be like oh gosh i gotta, I got to go. I got to run a carpool. And he'd be like, no, you're going to

follow my clues. You're not getting your keys. And she'd be like, OK, what do I do? And there was no GPS back then because it was the past. You know, it wasn't the future like now. And so we'd be like, where do we go? And he'd go, you're cold. And then we'd walk one direction and he'd go, you're warmer. And then we'd walk another direction and he'd go, you're warmer. And then we'd walk one direction and he'd go, you're warmer. And then we'd walk another direction and he'd go, you're warmer. And then we'd walk another direction and he'd go, you're warmer. And so now I'm always warm and I have to have the air conditioning on at all times. When I was younger, my father had a very close friend, okay? He had a very close friend named Geraldine Parson Smith, okay?

And she would come over for dinner and she was very nice to me. And I always thought she was a lovely woman, okay? But you know what? Her initials are Smith, okay? And she would come over for dinner, and she was very nice to me. And I always thought she was a lovely woman, okay? But you know what? Her initials are GPS, okay? So when I look at a GPS machine, I think of Geraldine Parson Smith. And it makes me think of my father, okay? So I can't hold GPS, okay? I'm sorry.

I can't. It makes me think of Geraldine Parson Smith. Sorry. Oh, my God. Ramona is so fucking crazy. I love every second of it. Should I call Aviva right now? Should I call her? I'm going to call Aviva. Aviva. Aviva. Oh, did you hear, by the way, I think this rumor has already been disproved, but I know everybody who listens to this has already heard this. It was rumored that George, the father, is getting his own spinoff show with his new bride-to-be, the Nail Lady.

I don't... I can't imagine people would actually want to watch that. No, that's crazy. Okay, you heard it here first. It's bullshit! That's something that can go on the Outdoor Network or something like that. The Rural Network. Whatever network they show barnyard animals on, that can be that.

You know the way they have the Cattle Drive show or the cattle auctions. But anyway, so getting back to the geocaching, so Kristen's excited about this. For whatever reason, she's excited because it's super easy and it's on flat ground. And all the power to her. If she wants to do it, she wants to do it. And I get that.

I understand. Well, Carol actually gave a good psychological breakdown of why it was important. Absolutely. Carol did a great. She's like, well, she felt very out of control when she was coming down the mountain. But this she can control because she can walk around with a machine. Very well said. Have you been on the news? I know.

Are you actually a smart woman? So the thing is that, like, you know, the people were sort of doing it, but Heather was being, honestly, Heather was being kind of a bitch. Heather was, like, not wanting to do it. And I don't know. I've been in those situations before when you're doing an activity and you're into it and you know it would be fun for the whole group if everyone was into it, but there's one person who's not into it.

Well, no. And they are undermining it. To be fair, a lot of people everyone was into it, but there's one person who's not into it, and they are undermining it. A lot of people weren't into it. The only people being nice to her about it were Luann, just because she's like, we're both from Connecticut. Sonia's like, ew, I wouldn't brag about that, which is hilarious.

I mean, it's like the whitest place on earth. So now she's bonded with Kristen, and so she's going to try and be nice. It's like trying to placate your daughter. And then who was the other one that was being decent? But the other ones were just all wasted, wandering around the woods, throwing sticks and laughing. I mean, I barely had any idea what was going on. But at the same time, I do know, you know, Heather was being a little bit more antagonizing.

And it sucks. It does really suck when there's an activity you're excited about. And there's one person who's like sort of being the ringleader of like being not into it, but like whatever. And I definitely understood Kristen's frustration because I'm also sort of like a spoiled girl inside. But she was very spoiled bratty about it for sure. But I don't know.

For some reason, I oddly enough was on Kristen's side in that situation. She's just too much of a whiner. I mean, I think that if you're doing something like that and like 80% of the people don't want to do it and they're off getting drunk and having fun, you need to just put it aside and go be drunk and have fun with your friends and not worry about it. You know? And then maybe if you drank a little more and you're all doing it and you're all having – but I mean Heather and her, Heather and she were on each other's nerves anyway. And apparently they've been friends for years. I didn't know that. I forgot that part.

But they're like – they've known each other for a long time or whatever. So I don't know. Their fight isn't fun. It's like sisters fighting. Like you're mean to me because you didn't support me. But if you didn't have to compete with me all the time... It was like the dumbest, most

boring fight, and now we have to hear more of it next week. And one thing about this Christian chick is she never lets it go. And actually, neither does Heather, so this is going to be not it. I was going to say it's going to be interesting, but it's really not. Well, it's more interesting than

half the other stuff that happened on this episode. So I'm all for their little bickering. You know? Where's the part where Mario is caught fucking an intern or something? Can we see that? I'm ready for that. I would much rather see that.

I know. I kind of feel bad. I feel like we've been telling people to watch this show because it's been so good this season. And then they get to the vacation. And this vacation's been a dud. And New York always has the best vacations. They have the best vacations. I did laugh a lot

during this episode. I thought it was really funny. I guess we'll end on a positive. And that was my favorite line when Luann is yelling at Sonia for not telling the facialist to leave for spreading rumors about her. And Sonia's like, what? So she said you're having sex with French men.

I mean, it's better. At least you're dating someone. It's better than dating no one who's French. So stupid. But I love the show, but I think it might be over. I mean, I think they're down to like a million viewers, which is... That's sad.

I think it might be nearing the end of Housewives time, guys. We've got Real Housewives of Miami circling the drain. This one now. What's next? I don't know. Maybe OC. I think OC's still doing okay. I guess we'll see what happens.

Well, we'll just follow along. And if worse comes to worse, we'll talk about Million Dollar Listing. Oh, please. Don't say such things. Okay, close it out, Benjamin. Alright, well, everyone, thanks for listening. Thank you to our friends who came flittering through the podcast.

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