Watch What Crappens - #136: Game of Crones

Episode Date: July 16, 2014

Ronnie Karam (TrashTalkTV) and Ben Mandelker (bsideblog) are here to mock the new Game of Thrones, Ladies of London, Real Housewives of Orange County and New York, and a tiny bit of Married t...o Medicine Reunion Part One. Come on in! Ronnie on the Web: http://www.trashtalktv.com Ronnie on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/trashtalkteevee Ronnie on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/trashtalktv Ronnie on Tumblr: http://trashtalktvrecaps.tumblr.com/ Ben on the Web: http://www.bsideblog.com Ben on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bsideblog Ben on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/bsideblog Our Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/watch-what-crappens On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/watch-what-crappens/id498130432?mt=2 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/watchwhatcrappens See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 and you get a new or transfer.com for the low price of $2.95. Hello, welcome to Watch What Crappens, But when you don't mean to happen, who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hi, Ronnie. You can reach me, Ronnie. Come read funny recaps and stuff on our website, TrashTalkTV.com. You can follow me personally on Twitter at Ronnie Karam or on Instagram at Ronnie Karam or Trash Talk TV or on Tumblr at TrashTalkTVRecaps.tumblr.com. Or just find – just Google me. Come to YouTube because I do Big Brother in Two Minutes videos every week, and they're really funny and that's youtube trash talk tv teve you can find ben at b-side blog.com you can find him on all social media outlets and i mean all of them there's not one that he's not on at b-side blog i would recommend his instagram and his vine personally i haven't done fine a
Starting point is 00:02:22 little bit you know i'll do it i'll do a vine today just for new people who want to come to my vine. Yeah, because now you're going to have a little surge because we talked about it. A vine surge. You know, I haven't done my cherry tomatoes in forever. I love the cherry tomatoes. It's like a cherry tomato soap opera. So you guys can go check that out. And all I'm really
Starting point is 00:02:41 doing right now is Big Brother stuff other than Watch What Crappens. Okay, there's that. you can find us on Facebook at facebook.com slash Watch What Crappens that is where we get together with you guys all week and talk crap about the shows and each other and if you have any complaints or suggestions you can come there if you just want to tell us how handsome we sound you're more than welcome to come there as well okay yeah and on twitter we're at what crappens so that would be great let's talk let's all talk together yeah let's talk all at once all over each other so now let's me and you talk let's just have it be you
Starting point is 00:03:14 and me right now it's just us man there's no one else here let's fire up the kenny g and the anita baker and just light that fireplace and just talk about things. Hell yeah. Okay, this was a huge change and thank God, bravo, because thank God, bravo. Bravo, God. Thank you, God, bravo because we really needed it. I was getting a little tired of the same shit. And now we have all these new things.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I know, wait, but before we... I just want to give one gossip item before we start. Oh, do it, do it. In case people are wondering thomas ravenel t rav from southern charm he is running for senate and he managed to get like uh over 16 000 uh city chairs for his petition to run for office and and apparently it's like way more than than he was supposed to even get um and uh and so now he's running it's like it's happening it's all happening right now would you vote for t-rav for office hell yeah they're
Starting point is 00:04:10 all a bunch of crooks anyway at least he admits it yeah i agree i agree someone actually wrote a comment um someone one of our commenters oh so michelle lefevre jones said we are from charleston and watched his arrest out from office. Don't think he has a chance in hell. I mean, I don't think he has a chance in hell either, but I have to say, I kind of like his, I like T-Rav and I like that he's just like, whatever, the system's broken. You need a crook like me to come
Starting point is 00:04:36 in and fix it. Yeah, I'm all about politicians doing cocaine in office because cocaine gives you energy and it makes you work harder. It's not like pot or something that's going to make him tired. It's not like he's just binging and sleeping all day he's doing cocaine people that's called making an effort yeah and he's like you know allegedly a libertarian which means that he's you know fiscally conservative so all the conservatives should be happy about that but he's socially you know leftist so all of us can be happy about that well yeah that that's
Starting point is 00:05:04 basically a hardcore republican who's got caught with his dick someplace. That's what that means. That's basically what a libertarian is. Well, T-Rav, if you would like to campaign on our podcast, you're more than welcome to come on here and you can tell us about all your different positions. So what else? There's no other gossip. Well, Jillarin was on wife swap oh yeah and um so to celebrate i had a tv swap and i got rid of my tv for a night and just completely pretended it wasn't happening so fuck you jill zarin hope you're shutting up somewhere that's good i hope
Starting point is 00:05:40 you got your tv back by the way i did it's really thin it's one of those newer tvs so it's like really thin and easily moved around oh okay good um the other thing is i'm just looking on our page here facebook.com forward slash watch what crap and i'm looking at things that people have posted a lot of link love for the hot wives of orlando which is a parody of the real housewives it's casey wilson a lot of people in it who are like very funny um so i'm really excited to check that out i'm gonna look at that later this afternoon the same people who made burning love right uh i'm not sure i'm sure there's some crossover because all those funny people do all those things together uh i don't know i i didn't see a huge amount of gossip you know because facebook also rearranged the way the layout is and i don't see
Starting point is 00:06:23 other people's stories as easily anymore um what i'm saying a lot of and i don't know if it's because i watch a lot of this shit but funny videos like i've seen so many funny videos on facebook this week like it's just out of control it's every other every other thing it's like a funny video it's like a cat jumping on a giraffe's neck yeah and i just sit there and watch them all oh uh bravo has ordered million dollar listing san francisco which should be interesting because the san francisco housing market is out of control and uh that show relies really heavily on realism totally i know exactly um okay why don't we get to the shows that's all yeah i don't care about that show i don't
Starting point is 00:07:03 i care about la only because i don't even know why but i really like to the shows? That's all. Yeah, I don't care about that show. I care about L.A. only because I don't even know why. But I really like it. The other one, I can't. And I haven't even watched Miami yet. Have you? Same. No. Honestly, with all this Housewives shit going on, it's really hard to watch anything else, even on other channels.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Like, I was watching The Strain the other day, that new vampire show. I refuse to watch it because of the billboards. Why? What are the billboards? With the eye? Have you not seen the billboard with the worm coming out of it? Oh, yeah, with the worm coming out of it. Yeah, I was just waiting for old ladies to start fighting with each other, and it never happened. I'm, like, so programmed to housewives.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I was like, where are the zombie housewives who are mad that the other zombies relate to their tea party? The real house vampires of transylvania yeah we're stupid um hey everybody from lost how about you stop making mystery shows that don't make any fucking sense and you have no ending for it that would be great both of you because the other one's making the leftovers so why don't you guys concentrate on making something with an ending okay you guys need to start working on procedurals how about that yeah okay so bravo all right where do we want to start why don't we start with game of crowns because i think we both
Starting point is 00:08:08 loved it game of crowns i'm in love with you you're so new this show is amazing it's like a christopher guest movie but you know for real dumber yeah dumber even dumber you know i i remember seeing the first look back in june i think it was. And it was only a half an hour. And I thought, oh, this looks hilarious. But the full hour, man, these bitches are hilarious and catty and totally lacking in self-awareness. It's everything you could want. Yeah, it really is. I mean, there's actually a mom on there from Toddlers and Tiaras who was awful on Toddlers and Tiaras, too.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And now she's competing as a missus so if you guys don't know what this is it's moms so it's people in their 40s it's not like young moms it's like older moms and they're competing in the missus contest which is a beauty contest for older ladies right because that's what the world really fucking needs right now older ladies in uh butt blue i actually think it is what the world needs. It's what I needed. I'll tell you that much. The things that this show has got going
Starting point is 00:09:11 for it is it's got a bunch of deluded white women. They're all tacky. They're from Rhode Island. P.S. I love that Rhode Island is now going to get its moment in reality TV because people don't realize that Rhode Island is full of tacky ass people and i don't want to i don't want to be racist and say tacky ass italians but i will say that the
Starting point is 00:09:31 demographic cues very closely to uh new jersey but yeah i don't know anything about rhode island actually well most people think rhode island they think of like newport rhode island which has these big fancy you know quote unquote cottages from the from like the Vanderbilt, etc. And they think, I don't know, it just sort of sounds like a place for affluent people. But really, Rhode Island is it's like Guido Central. I mean, look, DJ Pauly D is from Rhode Island. You know, Michelle from Big Brother 10. She's from Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I mean, these are like it's it's if you've ever been to Rhode Island, like every bridge is like the Antony Bridge or something like that. Which, there's nothing wrong with being Italian, obviously. But it just so happens that this brand of Italian that's in Rhode Island is more of the Guido brand. Hence
Starting point is 00:10:20 we have great TV coming from it now. These women are hysterical. Okay, so first is the blonde pretty one. She just won something. What's her name? I'm pulling up the cast list. So I think you're referring to Shelley Carbone, who was the reigning Mrs. America of 2011, I believe. Correct?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yes. And the first thing we get of her is trying to pronounce things in front of the mirror and she can't do it. Which is an amazing way to begin the series. Yeah, she is probably arguably the prettiest of the group and she is the most...
Starting point is 00:10:57 Lost you, Ben. She's the most what now? You still there? there ben come home to me on the podcast yes i'm here okay um what i was gonna say was Shelly is, she looks like she'll be the voice of reason, but in reality, she's just like an uppity snob. Not even a snob. She's just an uppity mean girl from high school. Yes. She's an uppity mean girl, and she has a fat daughter that she won't let eat candy.
Starting point is 00:11:39 So I'm basically like, there's my mom. So as much as I talk about my mom, there she is. So basically, this woman makes me crazy, and I love her very, there's my mom. So as much as I talk about my mom, there she is. So basically this woman makes me crazy and I love her very much. Yeah. At the same time. So then we have Vanessa Sebastian. Vanessa. No, it's not Vanessa.
Starting point is 00:11:54 It's Vanessa. It's Vanessa. Okay. Vanessa with three A's. And that is an ass. That is an ass face. This woman has. You can't spell Vanessa without ass.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah. This is like one of the beginning parts of Botched like this woman needs some serious fixing i hope when they win there's like a gift certificate to go see a dubrow because that needs it she has ass face jera two eyeballs and an ass i mean it's always it's never a good thing if you look vaguely like china the wrestler yeah it's always it does not bode well for your pageant career um her whole thing is that she is a nurse and she won it's very hard they all have they all have titles but they're very confusing like one woman is like mrs mrs rhode island america wants mrs rhode island usa uh so let me look vanessa's vanessa's title is that she is...
Starting point is 00:12:45 Oh, Bravo doesn't even... Oh, wait, does Bravo even have her name on here? Oh, Mrs. Connecticut America 2012. That's Vanessa. And she also had breast cancer, by the way. The new thing is fake breast cancer is out, real breast cancer is in. Yeah, as long as you don't have it right now. Because if you have it right now, nobody wants to be around you.
Starting point is 00:13:04 You have to either think you have it, or you have to have it right now. Because if you have it right now, nobody wants to be around you. You have to either think you have it or you have to already be over it. No, no, it's more like... But otherwise, you're out. You have to have had it a while ago and then use it as the basis for all your arguments. Like, I can't believe you said that to me. I'm a breast cancer survivor.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yeah, yeah. You always need to have that in your argument. And Bravo doesn't want to pay for your health care if you actually have cancer. They just want it as a plot device. Yeah, but they will pay for fibroids. Fibroids is fine. So the other thing with Vanessa is that she is Native American. She's Passamaquoddy.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And she lets this other girl borrow her uh native american costume which is actually a beautiful costume but it looked ridiculous on a white girl it was very will rogers follies and also if you just won the contest last year um why would i want to wear your fucking outfit that already and i'm white like it doesn't make any sense also i don't understand people like only bragging about being native americans when it's important you know like when they're driving through a casino slum where it's like poor people who can't feed themselves with flies all over their face who are just sitting there like dead horses no one wants to claim them then but then when they need a little attention for some beauty show
Starting point is 00:14:17 they're like i'm native american hey how about you donate some fucking money okay to your people they need you stop just bragging about it for bragging rights, creep. Stop bragging about it just to get a little extra attention at the Miss Tri-State patch. Totally, because you know she is. You know that's the only time it matters that she's Native American. She's like, I might have an ass face, but I was in this country first. I deserve to win. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:14:44 So the thing with Vanessa also is that she's quote unquote, like a mentor to Susanna Pagliotta, who is the woman who was from toddlers and tiaras. Yeah. But Vanessa is like the biggest bitch behind everyone's back. She's like, to everyone's face. She's like,
Starting point is 00:14:56 Oh, Hey, sweetie. Really big eyes. Those big fake eyes. Yeah. But you, but she says the nastiest things about them behind each other's backs.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I mean, they all say really nasty things, but Vanessa really leads the charge. She's awful. Okay, so there's two of them, and then we've kind of talked about the woman who's the mom of toddlers in T.R.S. She's effing crazy. She's like a low-rent Bethany Frankel. She's got the same voice. She's got a better jawline,
Starting point is 00:15:22 so that's good. And she's sort of looks actually, she's a little bit like somewhere between Bethany and Jenny Poulos a little bit. No disrespect to Jenny Poulos. But crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:37 She's fucking crazy. And she has this thing, this competition thing going on with her daughter who's like eight. Isabella. Which is very funny. She ends up winning the regional contest which i honestly don't know how she did that but she does i know how did you see the other competitors one was like some like 60 year old lady in a bikini one one woman was you know no offense she was a little heftier i mean there were it was just a disaster that's other contestants i mean in comparison, Susanna looked like a model.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Well, yeah. But then they had that question section, that question and answer interview section where they're like, so what's your goal? And she's like, well, you know, I know lots of things. I know 20 languages. And I know macrame. And I build macrame, and I build homes for Africans. And I can speak
Starting point is 00:16:29 Chinese. She's like, I can speak Chinese. Lomane. Ding dong. Ding dong. Every time the doorbell rings, I go, ding dong. You know, because that's the language. Even my doorbell knows multiple languages. I eat pasta four times a week. Oh see i speak italian too
Starting point is 00:16:46 um yeah she's and and when she won she actually went on this terrible show i guess in rhode island called hour with bob and it's like some old guy drinking a big gulp like in a cheap literally literally drinking a big gulp yeah during the interview it's like the big big gulp you know she's like everyone watches everyone watches an hour with bob isabella never made it on there michael that's really great competing with your six-year-old daughter for media appearances totally that's what i was gonna say isabella was never an hour with bob oh my god oh my uh listen i mean i kind of want to watch an hour with bob especially if he is also getting guests on the same level as miss tri-state yeah but i mean bob's the kind of host that you know he's
Starting point is 00:17:35 just gonna fart on him and be like i farted on you what do you think of that welcome to hour with bob well i love that she acts like she's being interviewed by diane sawyer i mean this is truly just some schmuck who probably spends the rest of his week hawking used cars you know and then rolls into some public access rhode island studio to have a conversation yeah that guy honestly made no effort he's like hey welcome someone who won a beauty contest ain't you pretty hun yeah i'm just gonna have my hand on your ass right here hey you don't mind if i flirt with your bitch right bob gross bob oh gosh um now of course the the big thing of the episode should i jump ahead to this between suzanna and vanessa or should we go through the rest of the cast first um i mean honestly we'll go through the cast as the season goes on because they're all fucking equally ridiculous as long as we're talking about suzanna and vanessa the big fight of the episode was that the two of them wore the same ugly ass
Starting point is 00:18:30 teal paisley jumpsuit to tucson arizona and there's i mean there's so many levels of tackiness going on here i can't even the fact that they're in tucson already already already lowers the bar and then i know it was phoenix busy i come on, at least go to a bigger city. Jesus. I know, and as someone who has recently been in Tucson as of two months ago, I can tell you, the place has become a shithole. It has not been...
Starting point is 00:18:55 It's become a shithole. Like, it used to be a glittering metropolis. Well, I'm saying it because as a child, we went to Tucson on a family vacation and i thought it was awesome and then i went back like 10 years ago and i thought oh she sounds cool but this time i was like it's like the san fernando valley but with less culture yeah tucson's one of those places where you're like oh i really want to go just be in nature man i want to be in the desert where there's nothing it's just peaceful and then you get there and you're like
Starting point is 00:19:23 this is the most depressing fucking thing i've ever done in my life screw this i'm going home but there's never any silence i know no it was it's truly it's just like it's strip malls and strip malls and strip malls and no one walking around it's it's really it's terrible but you can get really good chimichangas there because that's what they were invented and uh they've got beautiful suwaros it's a really good place to die, Tucson. I might die there. If I have a choice, like if I'm about to die, I might go to Tucson and just have some chimichangas. And if you're a straight male,
Starting point is 00:19:51 I mean, you got all those hot co-eds at the university there, too. And don't forget the Native American culture in Tucson, speaking of Vanessa. Yeah, exactly. She's like, I'm home. I came down on a plane just like my ancestors did before the mayflower came over and killed us all i like how you've made the native american accents
Starting point is 00:20:13 vaguely british because you know we were all together in the beginning you gave her way too much class with that accent no basically what happened was they're at baggage claim and she's like, actually, Susanna, I would really like to address something with you. And Susanna's like, oh, this better not be about the outfit. And then she's like, you are latching on to me. You're leeching for fame. And they just started yelling at the baggage claim. She kept saying, you're just trying to be relevant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And then Vanessa does that thing that crazy people do by trying to turn the argument around with something else crazy. And she's like, but look, I'm glad you're trying to be like me with your nails. I'm glad you're trying to do your nails like me. You're trying to be like me. And she's like, oh, really? I'm trying to do my nails by getting a manicure where you're trying to be like me. You're trying to be relevant in my suit. She's like, I'm not doing this right now.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Get tacky. She's like you better fix your dress you better fix your boobs she's like that's a really nice thing to say to a woman breast cancer oh my god it is a nice thing it's it's really hoping for the best for those boobs no i just love the idea that van thinks that somehow by copying her, it makes you relevant in society. Somehow, Miss Rhode Island America 2012, she is the key to relevancy. Well, maybe it can make Vanessa relevant. They could be like, Vanessa fixed her ass face.
Starting point is 00:21:42 She's won another title. How'd she do it? Yeah, and i love that the whole thing was caused by an evil gay person i love that even in tucson or wherever rhode island there's like an evil gay person ready to try and jump on a housewives show because that's basically what this is and it's basically some gay guy who owns like the only boutique in town you know that's not like dillard's or like tj Maxx and has dresses and he's like, I just wanted to warn you that Vanessa is wearing the same dress
Starting point is 00:22:09 right now on the airplane. I know because I told it to her and she's like, Let's call Vanessa. Vanessa, I just wanted to warn you I'm wearing the same dress as you. And Vanessa's like, Um... Well, I'm not sure how I feel about this. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It was like she had just said, hey, Vanessa, I just found out I can be a surrogate for your next baby. So what do you think? Yeah. Like this huge decision. But I will say this. To be fair, if we are going to take sides in this issue um susanna should have probably changed her outfit right i mean she was she was literally vanessa was already wearing this and vanessa didn't have time to change susanna should have changed now that being said did it need to be
Starting point is 00:22:56 a brawl at the baggage claim no should they have been laughing yes yeah do you guys really need to be dressed up to go on a like flight from fucking Rhode Island to Tucson? I don't think you do. Yeah. I think you guys. They looked hideous. I mean, the fact that they were vying to wear this jumpsuit is the funniest part of it all. Because it was truly like teal vomit in fabric form.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah, that was like, we're ready to party and die in Boca. Let's go to Boca! Let's all choke to death on something! It's like someone found some discarded fabric in the back of Marshalls and made some terrible outfits out of them. It's like a Project Runway disaster.
Starting point is 00:23:39 No one won that fight and American fashion lost. Period. Now, the other women on this show, we also have Leah, whose name is all scrambled up because she spells it L-E-H-A. Laha. Laha. Laha. Laha. And she's like the ex-fatty of the group.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And I like her because, you know, people who have been fat for a really long time, like me, have really gigantic heads. fat for a really long time like me have um really gigantic heads because something about like eating too like your head just gets bigger to fit on the bigger body i guess like it's really weird like skeletally i don't know it's really weird like when star jones lost all that weight and she still had a gigantic head or when i lose weight and i have a big gigantic head that's what this lady has she's kind of manly looking well she's manly because she lost weight and she got into like bodybuilding which i think we see that more i saw that in the first look that she got into bodybuilding things like that and so now she looks like a female bodybuilder when female bodybuilders tend to look like men because i think they take whatever supplements or hormones or steroids well i'll tell
Starting point is 00:24:37 you who doesn't mind her gay husband oh he seems like an asshole yeah wait are we talking about the same person leah yeah we are she's the one she has the gay husband and she's like a uh i didn't think he was gay actually she works at she like has a real job as some kind of traveling salesman or something like a pharmaceutical rep or something you don't think her husband's gay? Maybe. I don't know. I mean, I. Ten to one, that guy has butt balls in. Maybe. It could happen. I will say that, you know, the thing with Aaliyah is that she's not as obviously nasty as the other girls so far.
Starting point is 00:25:20 But she is a pretty big bitch, too. Like, she has said some really mean. She makes digs the entire episode. Yeah. Well, she's got to earn her keep her keep you know these ladies have tvs yeah and then there's also um my personal favorite lynn diamante who uh she's the one who offers cupcakes up to leah she's like oh congrats i'm making the pageant here have a cupcake yeah so congratulations on all that weight loss you want to eat something honey so linda diamente is totally the katherine o'hara character from any christopher guest movie she is like i don't know maybe like 75 years old she has she's got blonde hair but she's got these weird little like pink and light green highlights sort of the thing you
Starting point is 00:26:00 know when people have like tiny little white dogs and they put like they put stupid little pink sprig in there on their hair? That's what she's done to her hair. She's got the Adrian Maloof strand of blue. And she walks around in these tacky-ass plastic jackets with her boobs hanging out. She's got portraits of her and her husband. Her husband looks like he's 12. He's like this super dorky guy.
Starting point is 00:26:25 like 12 he's like this door super dorky guy and then these crazy portraits of themselves all throughout their home you know where like he's nestling his face against her naked pregnant body and um and then she also has this like amazing back catalog of photos of her from like 1990 like 19 from like 1986 of like 1991 when she was in these random pageants and she has the dorkiest face where she's there's a picture you see the picture of her with ronald reagan no there's a picture she's getting an award from ronald reagan and she has this look on her face as if she's like a little kid like getting a new toy it's the funniest it's this woman cracks me up and And she's like, I have done 18,000 pageants and I'm the matriarch. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:27:08 With this show. Like, no one knows any English. Yeah. She also has, by the way, a super cute little girl with glasses. Like, this cute nerdy little girl. I feel bad for her. I don't feel bad for the kids. I think those kids are so fucking lucky.
Starting point is 00:27:22 They're going to have so much to mock for the rest of their lives. Like, when these kids get their own podcast they're gonna have a lot of material to work with they would that's true they won't have any questions on why they wind up like messed up they'd be like why do i why do i act like this why do i have this self-behavior oh wait that was my mom never mind yeah anytime it's any anytime it's time to come up with excuses and rehab they'll just like play this show for people everyone will be like oh it isn't your fault no i i i absolutely love lynn i think she is hilarious she's so so funny and she has a sunglass business that's what i love too she's like yeah i was on pageants then i went to law school and then that's why i started my sunglass business
Starting point is 00:28:00 i just for some reason the idea of her having a sunglass business just it just it's so perfect it's too it's christopher guests yeah my favorite part was when they all get to tucson and it's like all of the all of the contestants and they're in these old lady bathing suits sitting around and i'm telling you so that looked like it looked like bosom buddies you know how on bosom buddies those guys were in drag but it wasn't like real drag they still look like dudes in drag like just dudes with really bad makeup and terrible wigs that was that whole cast of women yeah and laurie ann marchese who's the last uh cast member she's like 29 and comes from the fitness world and kind of stumbled into this whole mrs america realm uh she was in one of the women in
Starting point is 00:28:47 in when in those crazy bathing suits well not crazy just like conservative bathing suits and what was funny was like she uh first of all she's she's not that bright she when everyone had to like cross her left leg over the right leg she crossed her right leg over her left leg, which I thought was funny. But also, she does have a hot husband. That's for sure. I think he's hot. Yeah, he's totally hot. And he acts like a five-year-old, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Like, all hot. Exactly. He's an idiot. But I love that the woman, like the pageant administrator, was like, she's like, Lorianne's like, hi, I'm Lorianne. And the pageant administrator is like lorianne lorianne no lorianne lorianne lorianne like bitch lorianne it's not difficult everyone all the minor characters in the show are hilarious well this show is going to be so much fun it basically ended with vanessa screaming at vanessa and uh suzanna suzanna screaming at Vanessa and Susanna screaming at each other. And it just is going to go down because
Starting point is 00:29:48 someone, all the ladies are laughing at another lady on stage and then someone's husband gets involved and threatens to kill someone else and someone has a gun and I mean it ends up going fucking off the rails. So I'm really excited to see. No, I think it's a show that everyone should be watching.
Starting point is 00:30:03 For sure it is laugh out loud funny it is it's kind of a perfect show okay so speaking of criminals with guns in random places let's move on to the premiere of housewives of new jersey oh yeah so after all of uh you know bravo got a lot of shit because of how they have been exploiting joe and theresa's uh problems right they're filming this season way earlier than they normally would because they wanted to try and see joe go to jail yeah um they're being real assholes about it of course and they're exploiting it in every way they can so when they fired their uh other uh cast members caroline and jacqueline who probably will go to jail at some point but but it's just not going to happen tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:30:49 They were like, no, let's get people who could be thrown in jail at any moment. And they brought on pure criminals. Everyone on the show now is like a cast member from Ward is the New Black. The show has finally become what i've always said it should be which is basically jersey short in the sense that when real housewives of new jersey first uh came on season one they were bravo was trying to go for like a sopranos feel like this is the family and this is like mafia blah blah but people don't care about that people want to see tacky ass guidos and that's what jersey shore gave america and
Starting point is 00:31:25 bravo's like oh shit we got to change that up so bravo changed up the casting first they brought in you know theresa's family and now finally they've gotten rid of you know like the manzos and all that and now we have nothing but pure guido they're pure guido and i think there's at least like two criminals no i mean definitely definitely the guy who has the restaurant in little italy and and definitely uh by the way the new girl what's her name is her name amber what's her name again amber is a really angry one and then there's the twins yeah amber you know the funny thing with amber is she's like well you know uh you know i i used to be friends with melissa back in the day and we both wanted to like get wealthy and she went the marriage route she got married
Starting point is 00:32:02 and she got her money and i went to columbia and i got my money i'm like uh lady as far as i can tell the house that you're living in is not based off of what you've done with your columbia degree i think you married too i mean it's cool that you went to columbia and actually by the way my hat is off that bravo found a reality star who went to an accredited university but uh ambrose just one of those women who everything she says is angry it's always like this even if she's like merry christmas welcome to my home put the gifts down over there have some punch this is gonna be great we're gonna have some fun like jesus amber god can i just take off my fucking coat and enjoy the party god i know well i'm so far i'm mixed on amber on the one hand,
Starting point is 00:32:45 I did like that she's sort of like a disciplinarian with her kids and that she had them all in khakis and blue Oxfords. I was like, wait, where is this waspy taste level coming from? And I liked that she had them opening the door for guests
Starting point is 00:32:57 and leading them. I thought that was cute and I thought that was good child rearing right there. But on the other side, she had terrible makeup and she seems kind of like an awful person oh she's the worst and she's one of those who's just been been waiting to pounce on melissa because for the past couple of years there's been this thing going on with melissa
Starting point is 00:33:16 gorga that hasn't really been on the show well last year they brought it onto the show a little bit and that is that melissa basically her entitled her her entire bridal party hates her ass like basically she used everyone fucked everyone's boyfriend and then got on tv yeah that's basically what happened sounds about right you know from what we know and so it's been going on mostly on social media of people going after melissa and saying all this stuff and bravo of course got smart and just brought one of them directly on the show so melissa is going to have some serious shit to deal with well i think it's on the show so melissa is gonna have some serious shit to deal with well i think it's really funny too that melissa is in trouble now and she's lying
Starting point is 00:33:50 again she's obviously lying and it's all things that she just forgot and if people can almost prove it because it's on facebook but of course this girl can't prove it but it's like another facebook thing where melissa is like insisting that she didn't do it yeah you know um it's funny what you're referring to of course is the fact that amber was a breast cancer survivor she had cancer a few years ago and um and so you know you knew that amber had an axe grind with melissa because when she approached her at this like harvest party that amber was throwing, she was like, yeah, I feel like, you know, we fell out of contact, like, all those years ago. And I just wanted to know, like, what happened. And then Melissa's like, well, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And she's like, you know, because, you know, I had all the cancer. And then Melissa's like, wait, what? You had cancer? No, I had the cancer. She's like, you didn't know about my cancer? You didn't know about my cancer? As if, like, all of the world should know about her cancer. Well, I mean, if you're in someone's bridal party and you have breast cancer, all those bitches going to talk.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I mean, of course she knew she had cancer. She even wrote her and said, of course, Melissa's version of being nice about it is that she wrote her on Facebook and said, let me know if there's anything I can do. And never called and then never wrote again. You know, so of course she knew about it. Just fucking ignored it. Melissa's probably like, oh, I thought she said she had a dancer. So I was like, oh, that's great that you have a dancer. I was like, let me know if I can do anything for you.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Like, have sex with your dancer. I thought she was talking about the reindeer, Prancer. I was like, Merry Christmas. You got a Lancer, a Mitsubishi Lancer? That's great. I love that car. I thought she was telling me to pants her. So I pulled Teresa's pants up and gave her a wedge. You got a Panser, like the tank?
Starting point is 00:35:31 You got a Panser? That's great. I love tanks. I love military warfare. I'm sorry. I thought she was saying, I'm sorry I can't, sir. And I was like, what? I didn't ask you for nothing, bitch.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Ha, ha, ha. I thought you were in the middle of your sentence. I thought you were saying you can serve something. I was like, yeah, serve something. Yeah, whatever I can do to help you serve it. You can serve it. Yeah. Melissa's an awful person.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Okay, so there was that. Okay, so Amber is the angry one. Yeah. And she is going to get really angry this year. And she's the one in the season previews that is yelling at everybody, freaking out all the time, and making a huge deal. Like, her stupid husband came in this time with a full pig, which, of course, we've already seen on Real Housewives of Miami. Oh, well, you know, Peter.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Oh, yeah. Oh, well, you know. You know, Peter, your father comes in with a pig. Oh, my God, it's so scary, Peter. Nobody wants to see that. You know, Frank was in an comes in with a pig. Oh, my God, it's so scary, Peter. Nobody wants to see that. You know, Frankie was in an accident. He doesn't want to look at a pig like that. Oh, well, you know, Peter, ever since Frankie was in an accident,
Starting point is 00:36:31 you know, like, Peter, like, he has to, like, he has to look at dead pigs so that way he can feel, you know, mortality, you know? Yeah, well, you know, Peter, he has so much anger since Frankie was in the accident. So we get these dead pigs and then we tell him, look, it's a homeless person. And then he goes and kicks him in the balls and videotapes it and puts it on the air, you know, because that's how he deals with it. You know, it's because of Frankie. And, you know, this way he's not kicking taxis or like real homeless people because he's doing it all to the dead pigs. So, you know, it's like he's an artist and that's just like how he does it, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It also, you know, oh, well, Peter, you know, he's so upset and it keeps me from gaining weight because I don't want him to think I'm a pig and then kick me in the vagina you know and then tape it and put it on the air you know because that would be my fault because you know it's all about Peter you know and his feelings about Frankie oh well you know Peter you know sometimes he watches Looney Tunes and he sees Porky the pig though and he's like oh I'm gonna kick the TV because he thinks it's the pig that Armando brought into the uh but in the kitchen but no it's like I have to be like no well you know Peter that's a cartoon you know yeah I'm like oh you know Peter TVs don't grow on trees okay we can't just keep buying a new TV every time a pig, well, you know, Peter, that's a cartoon, you know? Yeah, I'm like, oh, Peter, TVs don't grow on trees, okay? We can't just keep buying a new TV every time a thing comes on there. You know, just stop watching Designing Women.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Oh, well, you know, whenever I put on Nick at Night and Taxi's on, Peter goes crazy. He always tries to kick the TV, too. He's like, oh, it's a taxi. I'd be like, Peter, no, that's Judd Hirsch. Judd Hirsch is a very important man, Peter. You should learn a lot from Judd Hirsch. He hits the taxi. That's Tony Danza, Peter. You should learn a lot from Judd Hirsch. He hits the tax. That's Tony Danza, Peter.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Oh, my God. All right. So that's Amber. Angry Amber. Okay. Then we have these bimbo ass twins who look like they're being played by Kristen Chenoweth. Oh, my God. Kristen Chenoweth if she made it with a piece of beef jerky.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah. And they're both awful. I can't really tell the difference between them. What are their names? Like Nicole. Yeah. And they're both awful. I can't really tell the difference between them. What are their names? Like Nicole? Nicole and what's the other one? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Lisa? Lisa Marie or something? They're both just fucking awful. I don't even want to know the difference. I pride myself on not being able to tell the difference.
Starting point is 00:38:19 She's like, well, I have a husband and I can't even do her voice. I'm doing some weird thing. She's like, yeah, I got a husband named Vito and we can't even do her voice. I'm doing some weird thing. She's like, yeah, I got a husband in Vito, and we got divorced, and now we're back together again. And, you know, that's it. What is her voice?
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's kind of like, she kind of has that grody voice, too. Yeah. I have to listen to the show a little bit more. He was divorced, but then we found out that we still loved each other. And so we're still together, you know, but we're still apart, you know? Like, we live in the same house, but we both can do
Starting point is 00:38:49 whatever we want, you know? Because that's how love is. Gross. You're both gross. It's Nicole and Teresa. Teresa Apria and Nicole Napolitano. Let's finish each other's sentences. We're twins. I hate that. I'm basically doing, like, a Guido version of my Toyo voice, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah, so those twins basically are both married to criminals, I think, too. So I'm... No, one of them is single. Oh, yeah. One of them's divorced. Ready to mingle. Oh, yeah. One of them's divorced, and the sister's like, well, I'm divorced, and I'm back with my husband.
Starting point is 00:39:22 That's what I want to happen for my sister. Really? What a high goal you happen for my sister. Really? What a high goal you have for your sister. Yeah. He's like, wow, I hope your fat ugly Guido will come back to you, too. I do kind of like Nicole's husband. I think his name is Vito, right? I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Something. I'm sure. He is kind of hilarious. Or Joe. Yeah. He's like, ah. He's like, this party's boring, ah. Oh, yeah. He was awesome. He's like, ah, he's like, this party's boring, ah. Oh, yeah, he was awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:47 He's like, get me the fuck out of here. I ain't staying here, a bunch of boring people. Y'all, you know what these people do? Walk in circles and circle jerk each other. We're out of here. We own the biggest restaurant in Little Italy, ah. She's like, the fucking kid took my scarf. Yeah, that guy's going to be the most entertaining thing on the show this year.
Starting point is 00:40:04 It's like, fuck this party. Let's go somewhere where people know how to have fun. Yeah, that guy's going to be the most entertaining thing on the show this year. It's like, fuck this party! Let's go somewhere where people know how to have fun! Yeah. And then we also had the return of Dina Manzo, who season one, I love Dina Manzo, but I hate her now because she's friends with Teresa. I like Dina Manzo. She's such a know-it-all bitch.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I know, she is. I mean, she still is really funny. And I love her. I love how she's like my fucked up pets. Because they are fucked up. I really like her, actually. You know, I. I mean, she still is really funny. And I love her. I love she's like my fucked up pets because they are fucked up. I really like her, actually. And, you know, I have to admit, I've admitted it before, but it's been a while. I did not watch season one of Jersey because that was when I was still too good for these shows before the recapper quit. I had to recap when I got obsessed with it. But I actually didn't watch season one.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So I only know Dina from her HGTV show, which I hated her on. So this, I actually really like her. And I like that she's kind of a natural woman still. She's not totally plastic surgery-ed up. Maybe a little filler and Botox. But she's actually just a beautiful woman. She's really funny. I actually feel like even though
Starting point is 00:41:06 you know by the end of caroline manzo's run i really couldn't stand caroline i still felt like the fact that dina somehow took theresa's side versus caroline and that whole situation i thought was i thought was like shitty but that's a horrible fucking human being. Could you imagine being Caroline's sister, that backstabbing little twat? And also, we know that a lot of that stuff went on because of the other sister in the group, who is Jacqueline. And I don't know if any of you pay attention to the tweeter, but Jacqueline and Ashley were throwing stones at Dina during the premiere. Really? Jacqueline and Ashley were throwing stones at Dina during the premiere. Really?
Starting point is 00:41:49 Then Dina made some comment like, well, this is why I don't hang out with those jerks. And then Jacqueline was like, oh, really? That's why? Because I can tell them really why. If you really want me to let some dirt fly, I can really say why you don't talk to us anymore. It's like, shut up, Jackie. I know. This is a terrible family. Just shut up.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Turn off your TV. Tacky people. It's never too late to try and raise your child. Alright, go away. Yeah. Meanwhile, but I will say this. Dina is obviously the funniest of the group. And then, of course, we have Teresa, who she is getting, I feel like, an awfully sympathetic edit this year.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And at first, it was funny because I was watching it and I was like, you know, they showed in the beginning, Gia's crying, and in the end, Gia's crying, and they bring the whole family together, and they have this big picture which, say what you will about the family, if you think about it, this woman from Italy now has like
Starting point is 00:42:31 300 people that are spawned from her, which is pretty amazing, and I was like, oh, this is really kind of impressive, and this is sweet, and I was like, wait, fuck all this, this guy committed fraud, this guy's a full-on criminal, and Bravo's trying to make us feel bad for the situation that he got himself into they're acting like you know oh wow well these things are half these bad things are happening to daddy or i don't know it's like no you guys brought this on
Starting point is 00:42:54 yourselves you guys got into fraud you guys live beyond your means and now you want me to feel bad about it i mean it's not only like bank fraud you know which is part of it but a lot of it was like defrauding victims of the hurricane and shit like just really really bad gross yeah i'm like no i'm like i refuse to buy it like like i i've hated serisa since season one i've always hated her and i'm like i'm not gonna be manipulated by bravo like this is you know i feel bad for gia and that's about it i don't i mean i really don't and this is why it's like look you're from that's the kind of family you're from and now it's going to be a badge of honor for your whole life that your father's in prison because it's not like being where we're from not that we're from the same place at all but it's not like being like from a normal place where people are like your father
Starting point is 00:43:38 went to prison oh my god how embarrassing there it's like your dad's in prison. Oh, that's honor. Yeah. Your dad's a criminal. Yeah, it's honorable. Yeah. He didn't rat on anybody. I feel bad for Gia. I feel bad for Gia because she's a little kid and she has to deal with this shit that her parents brought on. Like, I mean, that's the first thing they should have thought of. Like, forget about even the fraud that they would potentially jeopardize the entire family by being public figures and committing fraud at the same time.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's the stupidest thing. By being public figures and committing fraud at the same time is the stupidest thing. And now they got this girl who might not see her dad for how many years in jail? Probably like three months because of the penal system. But like – I guess I'm just so jaded from watching these shows that I'm like, that little bitch got a gift. She got like a three-book deal because you know that when she grows up, she's going to be able to be like, the life of a daughter whose father was in jail. Victoria Gotti. Yeah, totally. of a daughter whose father was in jail. Victoria Gotti. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:44:25 With a better wig. And, like, more horrible crimes. I mean, more, like, pasty crimes. The Gotti crimes were more interesting, I guess. But still, I just feel like, oh, she's got a spinoff coming up when she's of age. I'm not going to worry about her. Either way, I'm excited to see where the season goes. It looks like there will be a lot of fun arguments and Guido activity.
Starting point is 00:44:45 So it should be good. Yeah, that should be fun. Hope we don't have to watch those kids cry because that is really sad. It is sad when you see the kids cry. Oh, by the way, I have to say, I mentioned this on Facebook. I'm actually not using this as a segue because I don't want to talk about this next show just yet. But I'm starting to realize that Gabriella, Teresa's daughter Gabriella, looks like basically a baby version of Annabelle from Ladies of London. Did you notice that?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Look at it next time. I don't even look at that girl. I just gloss her over because she's just so sad. I'm like, oh, I don't want to look at sadness. I just pretend she's not there. Because she's the only one of those. She's the prettiest one of that group. there because she's the only one of those she's she's the she's the prettiest one of that group yeah as opposed to melania who is like still so awful and you know i know that there's this whole
Starting point is 00:45:31 like cult of melania that's out there because i mean she is hilarious because she's so bad and people people always say like oh my goodness like they love melania they love melania but i don't think the judaic has realized that people love Melania because she's so awful that it's funny to laugh at how poorly she's been raised. And it seems like now they are enjoying letting her be a total wild child. Yeah, I really like her. I mean, the things that she says to her parents are so fresh that, like, that would not fly in my household or my my parents oh my god if she said anything like that to my dad she'd be she'd be thrown across the county her eyes would be bleeding my dad my dad was not was not like was not like that but my dad my dad would if like as
Starting point is 00:46:17 a kid or if any kid now ever like speaks back to him he'd be like who do you think you're talking to and you're like ah like my dad could just do it in a way that's like so scary into your soul that like you just are like i will never do that again sir oh my mom didn't do that she would go romana get the wooden spoon and beat the shit out of ronnie tell me when you're done well romana she didn't mean to be an abuser she's still in jail so what's next you want to talk about Lads of Lunds? Do you want to talk about O.C.? We gotta talk about Orange County, because it was excellence. Oh my god,
Starting point is 00:46:52 what a fight. Just watching this Shannon chick unravel is so sad. It's so sad, because she's basically unraveling thanks to these idiots that are around her. Kind of, but she's also just a loony tune.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I have a feeling that this woman is always unraveling and the longer she's on the show, we're going to see that she's going to unravel every year about something crazy and little and it's going to get bigger and bigger in her mind until she just goes fucking crazy and she's put in the hospital. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:22 She already had the fight with i like about it she already had the fight with heather right she already had it out with heather she already talked about all the shit with her husband in mexico so it's like drama drama drama every week with her so this week she comes with news that tamra told her eons ago from what it sounds like because she just needs something to be pissed off about still so she's like well tamra once told me multiple times that the dubrows are out to get me and take me down i'm like really shannon and you need to bring that to this dinner party today that was yeah that was so the ladies all had had it like they all had a fault at some point that was shannon's fault was that she brought that up to tamra at the dinner party for sure like why did
Starting point is 00:48:01 you bring that up like what like what what's the purpose of bringing that up right then she came in ready to fight she was just ready to go at heather again yeah well she was all amped up um and so she tells that to tamra and and then tamra's like oh i i never said that i don't i don't i don't i never said that which is hilarious because of course clearly tamra said that and then of course and we get a backup from vicky who's like i know tamra said it because she said it to me too so i know that she was going around saying because of course clearly Tamara said that. And we get a backup from Vicky who's like, I know Tamara said it because she said it to me too. So I know that she was going around saying that at some point. I love that Vicky is just completely backstabbing Tamara every chance she gets behind her back
Starting point is 00:48:37 and showing no evidence of it to Tamara. Yeah, it is sort of curious that when this then all came out, when of course Tamara mentioned this at dinner to Terry and Heather, that when this all came out, that Vicky didn't say anything like, come on, Tamara, you told me the same thing. It's shocking that Vicky actually did not say that because Vicky loves to get involved, but this year she's not getting involved with anything. Well, she's doing it all behind the scenes and letting everyone else fight with Tamara because she's already learned what happens when she argues with Tamara. Like no good comes out of it. Yeah, none whatsoever. So meanwhile, the dinner party pretty much starts and everything seems fine and happy and things are moving along.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And awful and boring. Okay, first of all, like congratulations for having rich parents who have a big house for you to throw a party in. What are we, 15? Like who does that? By the way, how boring is Lizzie that, like, her, like, her home renovation storyline basically lasted a commercial break? Normally that shit lasts a whole season for other women. She was just like, you know, we decided just it looks too 90s in here, so we're going to revamp it. And then come back from commercial, it's like, well, it looks great.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. And her idea of revamping it is just painting the walls white and then putting fluorescent lights everywhere what the fuck was that i wouldn't have stayed in there i would have been like what is it dinner or are we getting skin cancer while we're eating i'm not staying in this room get rid of this i look terrible in here get me some yellow lights please but how about at dinner when they're making conversation and someone was like, hey, Brooks, what's your favorite part about Vicky? He's like, her vagina. Well, first, you have to give him credit for first trying to say her brain.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Her brain. Which nobody fell for, of course. But he goes, her vagina. Like, I mean, even if he was going to say that, couldn't he have put it more delicately? Well, I mean, look at Vicky. What are you going to pick? Yeah. He should have said her love.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Honestly. He should have said her love. Just visualize each body part one by one. Do a reverse meditation where you're going to get stressed out instead of calm. And just imagine each part of Vicky's body going from head to toe. No. He's like, I like her pancreas. Yeah. He's like, I like her pancreas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:45 He's like, I really like the back of her throat. Really like the inside of her palm, her butthole, and her vagina. I like her aorta. I really love the back of her elbow. You know, where the arm bends. I mean, it gets sweaty in there in the summertime, and it just feels so good around my penis. I like your pinky finger. It's just, he's so, Brooks is so awful.
Starting point is 00:51:13 He's like, who says that? Her vagina? Oh, my God. Well, at least he didn't say pussy. So, marks for Brooks. Yeah. You're getting classier, Brooks. That's true.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I liked at the beginning of the dinner how the stupid husband of Lizzie is like, all right, I'm going to give a toast. I want to say I like toast, and toast with butter is better than toast without butter. Yeah. Yay, nighttime. Who doesn't love the nighttime, right? I love the cool air. Oh, isn't the beach pretty?
Starting point is 00:51:45 Thanks to everybody for coming. You know what? Let's thank Who Made Chairs because what would this dinner be without chairs? Look how you guys are all sitting down. Isn't it comfortable? Thank you, chair makers. How about these lights, right? These are called real, real brights.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Shut up. If you don't have anything interesting to say, sit down. Yes, please. Please do that. Please do that. By the way, I want to say on Facebook,
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Starting point is 00:54:36 Jenny Thompson posted a really hilarious picture. Of Vanessa from Game of Crowns. Standing next to Khloe Kardashian. Yikes. That's funny. Because it's true. It's scary because it's true. Okay. So what else happened? Okay. So Shannon comes in raring to go, right?
Starting point is 00:54:54 And David is on her side today for whatever reason. David, I can't believe she would do that to me, David. I mean, she said she wanted to take us down. Yeah. But to be fair, though, so even though it was bad for Shannon, Shannon should not have brought up to Tamara. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:55:10 We agreed with that. So then fast forward to now to this dinner party. So Tamara has now decided to spill the beans to Heather and Terry that Shannon approached her asking, did the Dubros say they want to take us the Bedours down and so Tamara tells us and then Terry and Heather become furious and call out Shannon from across the table
Starting point is 00:55:31 and Shannon actually has a very good response which is that listen this is just what I heard and I asked Tamara if it was true and Tamara said it wasn't so that was it that's why I didn't bring it up because there was nothing to say it was like end of story and she was right right
Starting point is 00:55:47 yeah I think so I just I was just waiting to see what you were finishing I'm sorry but yeah I love that Tamara was like um just doing damage control before this came out she just goes up to Terry and Heather and she's like well this girl is saying I said something and I didn't say it and I just want you to know
Starting point is 00:56:04 so the whole fight was stupid because she's saying I heard it, but she heard it from Tamara, who's now denying it. It's like it already doesn't make sense. Yeah. One of our listeners is just ready to jump on her. You know, so he's ready to fight with her. So he just starts yelling at her, which was really tacky. You know, the Dubros are really gross they are gross and they start both jumping on her and better better and then they're pointing at me at your house oh are you
Starting point is 00:56:34 gonna yell at me again at someone else's house and she's yelling across the table and pointing her finger and acting like holier than thou I mean that woman's really gross and by the way when Shannon quote-unquote yelled at her, which she did not do, she just raised her voice, but when Shannon did that, this was on the heels of a conversation where Heather said, listen, if you have a problem with me, just say it so we can nip it in the bud, and that's exactly what Shannon did
Starting point is 00:56:55 right then and there, and Heather's been holding it against her ever since, even though Shannon did apologize, and we saw it on camera when Shannon went over to Heather's house, and Heather still is like, oh, were you going to yell at me like that time you did at your house? Imagine me. I'm a guest in your house, and the host is yelling at me. Yeah, you just can't argue with Heather because everything you say, she's like, oh, well, you know, it's like that time that you yelled at me.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You could be like, Heather, you ran over my child. My child is dead in the street. She'd be like, huh, your child? Did you see what your child did child is dead in the street she'd be like your child did you see what your child did to my car he yelled at my car he ran in the middle of the street and started yelling at my car until my car finally hit it you know i should be suing you i should be suing you i should dig up your son and sue your son because your son ruined the front of my car by yelling it's like what are you talking about what are you talking about just fucking yelling and pointing your finger in people's
Starting point is 00:57:46 faces with your Coraline's evil mother eyes. I can't wait for this reunion, by the way. I don't know when it's going to be, but I can't wait for them to finally all see their stupid footage and see how, mainly Heather, to see how she acted and see how other people acted. And every time she says that Shannon was yelling at her,
Starting point is 00:58:02 like at the restaurant with the chair, and then at the house, and she realizes that there was never any yelling. It was just like. No, she won't. She'll still see it all over again. She'll be like, see? You see what she did? That is true.
Starting point is 00:58:13 She didn't have any sense of self-awareness with the whole Gretchen thing last year with Malibu Country. Yeah. She'll just be like, you see, that was proof that I was right. She yelled at me. Even, you know, she's the one that keeps pushing you, pushing you, pushing you. Like Mama Joyce, you know? Yeah. Mama Joyce keeps pushing, pushing, pushing
Starting point is 00:58:29 and then someone's like, don't fuck with me, bitch. And she's like, she called me a bitch. That's wrong. Like, well, you deserved it, bitch. So Shannon finally loses it at this party and starts sobbing
Starting point is 00:58:42 and she's obviously Ben. I'm back. Okay. Hi. Hi. So you were saying how Shannon started to cry so shannon just went crazy in that awful house with all the fluorescent lighting and it was just bad and uh when is the season finale of this show i don't know like i i hope it's many episodes away because i'm totally riveted by all
Starting point is 00:59:39 this drama because then well because then they went outside they tried to talk it they tried to hash it out outside right and heather just continued to be very condescending and continued to not understand the situation. What did Heather do? She was trying to compare something about the hearsay. She was trying to make a point, and it made Shannon go absolutely nuts. Do you remember what it was? I don't remember, but I think it was something to do with she she just kept saying it's like when you yelled at me at my home and well you know it's for for a brief second it seemed like there may have been um like there there might be some
Starting point is 01:00:16 progress because they they started to say tamra started to explain well how the context in which she told heather about the email and then uh heather started to explain the context in which she told Heather about the email. And then Heather started to explain the context in which she told her friends about it. But still, at that point, Shannon was seeing such red that she couldn't hear it. And then Heather said something. I really wish I could remember what it was. She said something that just sent Shannon off. And she went so crazy. You could see see she wanted to jump out of her own skin
Starting point is 01:00:45 she was so mad but that doesn't take much with her and Heather really doesn't say anything new she just keeps repeating the same thing over and over like she sticks with her lies and just repeats them over and over oh she was saying oh I didn't bring you up at lunch
Starting point is 01:01:00 other people brought you up because everybody's talking about your marriage and Fanny was like about to kill her. She's like, that is not true, Heather. You're twisting it. The way she twists it. She twists it. She twists it around. David. David. Flames on the side of my face, David. Flames. She's twisting it around. I won't let you do this. I won't let you do this, Heather.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I won't let you do this. Every time we talk you make it sound like I'm screaming at you and I'm not screaming at you. I'm not screaming at you. I'm leaving this party and I'm not screaming at anybody and you won't see the truth. And then Tamara's like, stop it. Stop it. That was such an amazing moment when she had her hand in the air like, you all won't see the truth. It was like there should have been like trumpets playing and like violins, soaring violins and fanfare.
Starting point is 01:01:42 It was like this gladiator Russell Crowe moment. Oh, for what? It was the Oscar oscar scene like you'll see the truth the truth will come out like as in the trailer you know over what i mean nothing is even like this fight is about nothing this fight is so stupid it's about zero and you know the best part about the best part about the fight is that it also came on the heels all this all this came out on the heels of tamra reprimanding heather about spilling like personal confidential information that she gave for about pregnancy to eddie tamra told heather i really didn't like it i told you something in confidence and then you went and told eddie and i really didn't like that and heather was like okay i'm you know you're right i'm sorry i will never do that and then tamra immediately turns says so anyway this is what's
Starting point is 01:02:31 happening with the badoors and then immediately heather goes so this is what's happening the badoors and i have a whole shit show well tamra just keeps starting it it's like she's she's talking to one person and then they go away and then she changes her story when she's talking to the next person and we see her doing it on camera like she's such a fucking liar and she's starting everything that's going on and i love to say and you know i'm not a liar to say you know that it's just tamra right like it has nothing to do with anybody with tamra yeah well i mean i mean lizzie was just sort of like she couldn't even you could see she couldn't even believe this crazy woman but but tamra kept on saying well you know i'm not a liar
Starting point is 01:03:10 how how many times have you known me to lie how many times it's like all the time tamra all the time you do nothing but lie well i love that shannon is one of those people who never lets anything go because even like five seasons down the line if they're best friends she'll be like well remember that time that you lied and i told you something in confidence and you told i remember that i still remember it like it was yesterday and it hurts it hurts i just want us to be friends i just want you to want to spend time with me and not lie to me david david david david david david she's i'm just realizing with each David. David. David. David. David. David. She's, I'm just realizing with each episode how more and more, it's one of those things where I feel almost bad talking about Shannon because I could see something really bad happening in the future.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Like, it just doesn't seem like a storyline that's going to end well. It's like, she's going to, you know, I don't know, she's going to turn herself into a windsock like a fucking. I also, I also have a theory, you know, Tamara, it seemed almost was like s's going to, you know, I don't know. She's going to turn herself into a windsock. I also have a theory. You know, Tamara, it seemed, almost was like siding with the Dubros. And she seemed like you could see she was kind of throwing Shannon under the bus. And I think the reason why she's doing that is because Shannon caught her in a lie. And Tamara felt terrible about it. And she's been raked over the coals for it and sometimes when people are in that situation
Starting point is 01:04:26 rather than kind of like having to man up and deal with the personal responsibility of having hurt someone and the repercussions of that, it's easier to actually get into a fight with them and then be like, you know what? Who cares? Fuck them anyway.
Starting point is 01:04:41 It didn't surprise me that she started to actually go towards Heather's side and start to vilify Shannon a little bit because it makes it easier for her to handle her own shame in what she did. Well, yes. I think also she's doing it because she knows that Shannon is going to call her on her bullshit. Like Shannon's still mad at her. And Heather isn't. Like, Shannon's still mad at her. And Heather isn't.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Like, Heather is at the point where she hates Shannon so much that she'll do whatever it takes to have someone on her side against Shannon. So even if she knows that Heather's causing, I mean, Tamara's causing all of this, and even if she knows Tamara's a fucking liar and not a real friend, it's someone on her side against Shannon. And so no matter what happens, she's going to believe whatever Tamara says, and she's going to go after Shannon. It's so stupid. I just wish the fight actually had something to it. Well, I don't know. They're going to bring you down? That's such a Housewives thing.
Starting point is 01:05:37 We're going to bring you down. But there was more to it than just that line. It was that all this simmering emotion and anger was just pouring forth. I mean, I don't know. I am finding these fights on OC this season to be totally riveting because there's something about them that feels real. It feels like there are real emotions going on.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And it's like they're the sort of fights that are oddly relatable like you can imagine having them with friends whereas the fights that you see on um marriage medicine for instance on this stupid reunion it's like oh quad you know it's like like you said you make me relevant and i am relevant that it's like it's like who the fuck cares or it's like when you can see how when you can see how how stupid and petty those fights are and not saying that this isn't a petty fight but there's something very easily fixable about other fights and this one is like a little thornier and you sort of can sense that i don't know it's hard to describe yeah so let's just move on to married to medicine since i brought it up segue way we can cover this in about all of 30 seconds. Yeah, it was stupid.
Starting point is 01:06:47 It was stupid. Heavenly was funny. Mariah apologized to Quad, and Quad accepted it, but she's not really going to accept it. And Simone and Toya got into a big fight over who knows what, about who was a better friend. And then they fought backstage in front of simone's son and um and really nothing happened yeah it was really um hard to watch because everyone was interrupting basically just kept going over the same season shit that we've already seen which was all useless made up bullshit and also this one something about the show in general that really bugs me but it was really on display at the reunion a andy cohen still you make me fucking crazy like just the sick joy he
Starting point is 01:07:32 takes in like fucking up everybody's lives and i hate that he still opens every show with hi hi andy hi dr jackie hi andy hi latoya what you should do is say hey who are the rest of them i don't even remember hi mariah it's like jesus christ i know just say hello welcome to the reunion and start like. Like, what the fuck, Andy? But Andy also followed me this week on Twitter, so I'm going to be a little bit nice and just cut it off. Well, he didn't follow me. He followed the site. Because we got into some kind of weird argument because the ladies of London are tweeting Trash Tweet TV back because we tweet out our recaps. And they read them.
Starting point is 01:08:24 The Americans read them, apparently. Mar, and they read them. The Americans read them, apparently. Marissa and Juliet read them and tweeted us back a couple of nice things. And Juliet was like, wow, you guys sure have an opinion, huh? She should come on the podcast. Because, you know, Trash Talk TV is not nice. It's really snarky and rude. You should say we're just being honest. Totally.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I just wrote back, oh, you know, it's all in good fun. We make fun of each other, too. That's just the point of the site or whatever. And then somebody tweeted back, because one of them retweeted it, and then someone tweeted to us, some stranger tweeted, like, oh, you people are bullies. You're cyber bullies. You're disgusting. You're against women.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I would report you if this wasn't on your own website. If you said something like that on Twitter, I'd report you. It's like, go fuck yourself. You know, go fucking report me on Twitter, you fucking loser. I love people's outrage. Like, I'm so outraged that you call someone a twat that's on Bravo. I'm ruining your life. Like, go ahead and ruin my fucking life, you creeping Canada.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Go for it. No, seriously. But anyway, so I think that was why i think he was like oh bitch fight over ladies of london um so that was fun so anyway uh married to medicine so they take such joy in yelling at each other they walk away smiling like they just were in a boxing match and they won and they walk away like oh that's right even dr simone who i normally really like but she starts yelling and calling toy is stupid and all of this stuff and then when abby calls break she's walking off with a huge smile on her face like she just one point it's like you're a doctor you just embarrassed yourself like why are you smiling i don't get it i don't get that show i know
Starting point is 01:10:00 it honestly was just it was like the pits. It was just so boring. It was boring. It really was. They were screaming. I mean, there were some amusing parts, but I think half of it was being like, I loved you like a sister, like a sister. I loved you like a sister. And everyone at some point was talking about
Starting point is 01:10:20 how the other one was not a good friend. Even, I mean, Lisa Nicole got into it a little bit. She was like, I find that you are very manipulative. And as someone who had almost cancer, I have a very hard time dealing with that. I would like to hear you of your
Starting point is 01:10:35 almost craziness. I don't think it is very nice. Yeah, Lisa Nicole. And I love, I love, I did love how honest they are when Andy is like, well, Heavenly, why would you say that Latoya's not smart? Because she isn't. That was amazing. She is, Andy.
Starting point is 01:10:55 She isn't smart. She isn't, Andy. Come on. She's not smart, Andy. It was just basically rehashing a very stupid season and then it gets to the stuff of mariah and you know whatever you were just talking about that other girl quad and no one ever saw the fight so it's like we're rehashing something we never saw and then they're yelling and fighting and crying and blah blah blah and mariah who knows that she's going to be kicked off the show at
Starting point is 01:11:20 this point if she doesn't do something is like well i'm sorry i am sorry that i did that to us and our friendship because i value our friendship i'm sorry quad and quad's like okay the end i was like okay well she apologized so you know it's raining and i got an umbrella i'm waiting for the bus under a bus stop like okay the alarm clock went off and i hit snooze honey nine more minutes of peace i got a notebook honey and i'm taking notes about you honey all right my car registration is due and i'm paying that honey because i'm not getting pulled over by this madness that air pop is going and the popcorn's about to start flying out of it. I'm looking through my Cook's Illustrated,
Starting point is 01:12:08 and I see a recipe for peace and quiet and tranquility. I've got some new running shoes, and I'm about to speedwalk in them. I have a ballpoint pen, and I am writing checks for happiness. Yeah, so that was dumb. Okay, so let's move on to lads of lens yeah ladies of london um you know i'm a big fan of this show but i thought this episode was a little dull
Starting point is 01:12:33 here's what i liked that they brought the etiquette the etiquette teacher who was formerly on the girls of hetzer hall one of my favorite long lost mtv shows mrs schrager she came they had caroline brought this this portly etiquette teacher this is not what we do at the dinner table and so she but it was hilarious because caroline basically arranged for noel and juliet to meet with this woman because the two of them are basically two little monsters. They're animals, barbarians. And, you know, Juliet seemed like, I mean, she was, you know, she was digging in her heels a little bit.
Starting point is 01:13:14 But, you know, because she was like, I just like to be honest. Like, that's the American way is to be honest. And P.S., that's not the American way. That's like your dumb ass way. But Noelle was just being a straight up like bitch about it. She was like, oh, i don't understand why i have to do this stuff for my etiquette class and she's like she's like oh i know how to i know how to like sip soup from both all i have to do is like sip soup from this side and mr was like no
Starting point is 01:13:36 that's the exact opposite thing that you're supposed to do like what might be americans can teach you all to have a little fun and take the sticks out of your asses. Oh, Ben, did my bad accent get rid of you, Ben? My bad accent has killed this podcast. Score. Score. What did you hear? Score. I can't tell you how much I can't stand when the internet goes out.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Like you're basically talking to, you're trying to teach manners to a woman who basically got off the plane in London, fucked every rich guy she could broke up a marriage to get her own rich, ugly guy, and just hounded him into buying her a $10,000 apartment. I mean, what kind of man... If this girl needed your fucking... If this girl had any manners, she wouldn't have a place to live right now, okay?
Starting point is 01:14:37 The reason she is even still living and has a purse on her fucking arm is that she has no manners, okay? A girl with manners wouldn't just drop on her knees for any old homely guy with five kids or whatever. You know, she wouldn't make it with manners. Well, what's also hilarious is that when she tells us, she says something like,
Starting point is 01:14:56 you know, Scott has brought me to, like, many aristocratic parties, and, like, there's never been an issue with my etiquette. I'm like, yeah, of course there's been an issue. Like, just no one will tell you about it. If you're from America, there's inherently going to been an issue with my etiquette i'm like yeah of course there's been an issue like just no one will tell you about it if you're from america there's inherently going to be an issue okay like the first thing you should do if you're an american and you decide to move to london and you want to mix with high society even if you think you're the most polished person in the world you got to get an etiquette teacher because there's shit there's like high
Starting point is 01:15:19 level etiquette shit that goes on in england and you just have to know it yeah school i mean that look there's a reason I'm staying here. I'm never going there. Because I just wouldn't make it. I have no manners. I'm one of those. They'd be like, Oh, look at that man at the buffet. It's for everybody, buddy. It's for everybody.
Starting point is 01:15:37 What do you call Tupperware in England? Can someone loan me some? It's like King Ralph. King Ronnie. England, can someone loan me some? It's like King Ralph. King Ronnie. But the rest of the episode is basically just like Caprice
Starting point is 01:15:51 lying down on couches and being like, oh, the baby's coming close. The surrogate's dilating. Cappers is on the phone for the surrogate. God, Cappers. She's so fucking retarded, that woman. She really is.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I'm about to have a baby, and I'm just so mush. Will you have a party for me? Will you have a party for me? I don't want to have it there. Can we have it somewhere else? Fuck off. I have a national campaign that I'm shooting. This is a really big campaign for my lingerie brand that no one's heard of.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah. Bye, Caprice. She's just so stupid. shooting this is a really big campaign for my lingerie brand that no one's heard of yeah she's just so she's she's stupid and annabelle uh spent the episode lying in bed alexander loved recovering in bed i wish alexander was still here he would come out with a recovery line you know every everything would come with a crutch or one of those bars that you hang on to when you have to use the loo, don't you? My crutch has a six-inch heel on it.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Alexander loved a crutch. I used to think of myself as something of a crutch for Alexander. Now I need a crutch. Isn't it ironic? Alexander loved irony with crutches. I wish Alexander was here to need a crutch. Isn't it ironic? Alexander loved irony with crutches. I wish Alexander was here to make a line of women who had to poo their pants because they couldn't afford help to take them
Starting point is 01:17:11 to the restroom. Oh, Alexander! The pelvis is Alexander's most favorite bone. Alexander! Alexander! Uh, that lady, I just love which is so mean
Starting point is 01:17:27 but I don't know I feel like I feel like it's me like I got a scooter and all my friends like you're riding a scooter you idiot you're gonna die on that thing
Starting point is 01:17:34 something's gonna happen I'm like no it's not everything's great you know the first thing that's gonna happen is I'm gonna fucking die on a scooter and I'm not gonna
Starting point is 01:17:41 complain about it because everybody already warned me about it I'm not allowed to complain about it I just have to be like whoops i'm dead sorry love you guys don't even have a funeral for me it was all my fault how long do you how long does it take to recover from a pelvic break i mean that sounds like it must be the worst how do you do it you know she ain't using that thing anyway her broken pelvis she's not using that thing anyway. Her broken pelvis. She's not using that pelvis.
Starting point is 01:18:06 She's like, I'll never make love again because Alexander can't make love. Probably sounds like the cupboard that the teacups are stored in. Alexander loved the cupboard. It probably sounds like a record player when the record's done and it's just like
Starting point is 01:18:22 Sounds like a sounds like uh sounds like windshield wipers i thought it sounds like when she's speed walking it sounds like my shower caddy when it comes on unstuck from the wall It sounds like when you plug up the bathtub but there's a hole in the plug and it's just like... It sounds like the wind coming into my apartment whenever I leave my sliding door open just a jar. It's like...
Starting point is 01:19:03 It sort of sounds like my chair what if it sounds like the subway when the door is open sort of sort of sort of sounds like an air seal out of space. This show's going to kill me one day. All right. Now let's talk about something really important. Okay, let's do it. Is there anything left? Did we talk about... Oh, wait. There's stuff left in this show new york oh yeah um so what else happened oh wait did anything else
Starting point is 01:19:51 happen in the show i don't think so are we done caroline's having a dinner party she invited uh caprice even though she didn't want to invite she did it because it's the right thing to do and then caprice is showing up late and that's it yeah and juliet probably says oh juliet i think noelle noelle's caught in the middle because she's stupid and juliet said something maybe at one point and marissa maybe like took umbrage about something but that's it yeah um yeah that this show i don't know i feel like it can be good but it's really difficult to have a good show about women fighting when the women are all insisting on being polite. They won't fight.
Starting point is 01:20:27 So you guys need to either be more entertaining or just fight. They need to get a cockney woman in the mix. Oh, my God. Yes, they need, like, an Eliza Doolittle in there. Yeah. Which I think is what they're going for with Nicole. But I think if it was, like, Nicole and some other trashy American and then all British ladies like Caroline that would be amazing
Starting point is 01:20:49 but I don't know they need more Brits in there for sure they definitely need to keep Caroline and like I honestly think like the Americans except for Noel and Caprice they both are dirty whore bags who suck but I like Marissa and Juliet
Starting point is 01:21:04 like they seem perfectly nice, you know. Yeah. But I don't know. They need to do more. I mean, Caroline doesn't really do that much. And she's hilarious. So I could watch her all day. And I also would like Caroline's assistant to make a return.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Who's like, all right, we have six RSVPs. And she's a woman, by the way. She's like, we have six RSVPs. And there's going to be a lot of vodka at the restaurant. I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing, but her voice is very deep. Her voice is very deep. I'm practicing impersonation.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I gave her a very cockney accent, and Caroline would never do that. She basically said, whatever. I'm moving on. Okay. Let's move on to New York. Okay. New York. I fast-forwarded through a a lot because it was ramona
Starting point is 01:21:45 and her fucking daughter and i don't fucking care about you guys it's good to cry it's good to cry it's good to cry um i was actually mad at our listeners because you know we have threads every every time these shows run saying hey let's talk about the shows together or whatever and you guys comment and they're fucking hilarious and i love reading those comments but i had fast forwarded through the ramona scenes and actually had to rewind them to see her doing Let's talk about the shows together or whatever. And you guys comment and they're fucking hilarious. And I love reading those comments. But I had fast forwarded through the Ramona scenes and actually had to rewind them to see her doing her breathing exercises. Okay. Now, Avery, what you have to do is you have to breathe in for four seconds.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Okay. Okay. Now you let go for six seconds. Okay. Now hold for two seconds. Okay. Now repeat. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Okay. Okay. You need to breathe real deep. Okay. Now repeat. Okay. Okay. Okay. You need to breathe real deep. Okay. No, you're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. No, not do it. Just for a second.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Jesus, Ramona. This isn't relaxing. So the best thing, and well, there was a lot of horrible stuff. Okay. So that, Avery thing. Bye. Go to college. Bye.
Starting point is 01:22:49 So we can watch your dad fuck around on your mom, because that's the only reason we still care about your family okay bye and then um there was something else going oh kristin and her terrible marriage which i don't know i like i like the therapy because um josh is an asshole and i i was like excited to see the idea that maybe someone might put josh slightly in this place which sort of a little bit happened. I don't know. I liked it. I liked the therapy scene, personally. And then what? Well, I love that it basically came down to Josh can still do whatever the fuck he wants as long as he calls first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Like, all she's going to get is a text message. And she's like, oh, I totally got what I wanted. Like, no, you didn't. You just totally got screwed over. But whatever. Glad you weren't scared of me. Josh, that's all I want. That's all I want, Josh.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I just feel like he doesn't respect me. Oh, shut up. What else? Okay, so what was it? Carol had a 50th birthday party at the Garden of Good and Evil. Evil and Evil. If we invite Aviva, it'll be the Garden of Evil and evil. Evil and evil. If we invite Aviva, it'll be the garden of evil and evil. Oh, Aviva got a like to a Boston Marathon.
Starting point is 01:23:54 See, that's what Aviva does. She links herself. She does something really nice for a Boston Marathon survivor. And then it's like, oh, well, now we can't make fun of Aviva. But we still can. No, you still can because, of course course she only does it on camera yeah it's like oh yeah aviva's being so nice but every time she does something that's nice she makes sure that there's a camera crew yeah it doesn't count it's like when people tell you they love you and they're
Starting point is 01:24:18 drunk it doesn't count when you're fucking drunk all right yeah um it doesn't count if it's on a reality show because you're totally using it for your own good okay by the way ronnie i don't want to one-up you with the fact that andy cohen is following your site but um official panda express is now following my instagram so oh oh my god okay andy and panda express we're sorry that we make fun of both of you but we will totally work for both of you so if bravo wants to give me a job i will be really nice about andy and if panda express wants to give me a job i will be really nice about my diarrhea issues with your restaurant right it's perfect um so what else happened on this fucking show?
Starting point is 01:25:05 Let's see. So Aviva – well, the whole thing was that – so Luanne and Jacques finally broke up. And Luanne was crying. And so Sonya had this thing with Harry Dubin where – like this stupid romance I've never believed all season where he's like, yeah, I want to take everything to the next level. And then Sonya's like, well, I don't know. Like I don't know. Things have happened. We're games. I don't know like i don't know things have happened we're getting dog i don't know i don't know and then he gives her a ring and but then he's like leering at luann and they left in a cab together but which seemed doesn't even seem real it seemed like it was so like patched together
Starting point is 01:25:36 that was crazy i felt like what the hell this guy is such a pig he's like here's the ring i got you there's no box so obviously that ring was like in a drawer somewhere. He's like, here's a ring. I want to take it to the next level. But we're not getting married. It just means I want to take it to the next level. Okay, bye. I'm going home with Luanne because she's desperate and she needs my penis inside of her.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Like, what? What are you doing? Who does that? I mean, he's so obviously a sleaze first of all could you really ever go with someone who was married to aviva drescher no no soiled i mean he's got i mean that guy's more soiled than a fucking garden the guy's got a lot of soil on he's got soil from every old lady in town don't go there gross yeah um yeah so that was the best part uh carol i think you know i really like carol i can't not like her for some
Starting point is 01:26:34 yeah i love carol she's really funny she is i want snakes at my party and butterflies and orbs it's like i knew that those butterflies are all going to be dead fucking animal abuser yeah her party actually looked pretty amazing i all going to be dead. Fucking animal abuser. Yeah. Her party actually looked pretty amazing. I wanted to be there. Yeah, it looked fun. I hope she got some.
Starting point is 01:26:52 And what else happened in this Eps? This is basically kind of the boring lead up to the leg being slammed on the table. Yeah, that's all we want. And next week is the season fins. I know, and same with ladies of London. I hope they, I hope this cast comes back and I hope that Luann gets to be a cast member again. Me too.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I love her. She really got short changed cause she was the cast member anyway, and they just didn't put her in the fucking credits. I know. Wait, should we, should we talk about Sonia's a gay Christian psychic? Oh,
Starting point is 01:27:21 sure. So she has a gay Christian psychic. That's pretty much all i had to say too i was like wow that psychic's pretty gay and he just like threw down a card was like oh he's like oh no there's a brunette who's in your group and i love that they literally took luann's picture and put it on that card too because it was like luann with her hair flying it's like luann in a wig i was like that is luann that's not even a real card it's like a picture of luann he's like i picked this card it's luann she's gonna screw you up she's gonna fuck your hair plugged guy my aunt is recently divorced and she's dating again and she's like when did men just start having like vagina fat where their penises should be and that's that's what i think of when i see harry dubin i just think he's probably got a whole
Starting point is 01:28:18 lot of mangina fat over that little tiny sausage yeah Yeah. Isn't that mature? That's all I can think of every time I see him. It's true, though. It's very true. I think we've covered everything. I think we're going to end on Mangina today, guys. Yeah. It's a classy week.
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