Watch What Crappens - #168: Take A Seat, Kim Richards

Episode Date: March 4, 2015

It was the fight that was heard around the world ? or at least in Holland. Lisa Rinna threw a glass of champagne at Kim Richards in one of the most intense fights in Housewives history, and ...naturally, we have tons to say about it. Join Ronnie Karam (trashtalktv.com) and Ben Mandelker (@banterblender) as they break down every aspect of the fight. After that, it's on to the Shahs of Sunset premiere, the Vanderpump Rules season finale, and the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Fun times! You can donate to us at http://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens And remember to like us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/watchwhatcrappens And here's some other stuff: Our Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/watch-what-crappens On iTunes: https://bit.ly/crappens Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/watchwhatcrappens Ronnie on the Web: http://www.trashtalktv.com Ronnie on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/trashtalkteevee Ronnie on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/trashtalktv Ben on the Web: http://www.bsideblog.com Ben on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bsideblog Ben on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/bsideblog See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 bonus content. Ronnie and I just recorded a lengthy one. One hour's worth where we talked about everything from the Real Housewives of New York trailer to a whole bunch of stuff about gay things. We really got, we got real serious there, didn't we? Yeah, that got real. We got real.
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Starting point is 00:03:02 We have we have a near throwdown on Atlanta. We have an actual throwdown on Beverly Hills. We have the Vanderpump rules season finale, and we have the Shazza sunset season premiere. Wow. It's a lot. Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:03:17 What do you want to start with being? I think we have to start with Beverly Hills. That is the, this is the, it's like, you know, once in a while, an episode of a Bravo show comes around where you're watching it and you can't believe what you're seeing and you have to start texting your friends. That was me last night.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah. Wow. Kim Richards. Kim Richards. And also, Bravo flipped the script on us by opening with that scene. Opening with the, I was shocked. I was like, we are 12 minutes in and I'm already jaw to the ground. Yeah, my phone started buzzing like crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Everybody was texting me. Can you believe this shit? I know. I just was like texting people. I was like, Kim Richards. Kim motherfucking Richards. Kim Richards really needs to, she needs to slow her roll and take a seat. She needs to stop rolling her seat.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Okay, if anybody is going to be giving Kim Richards drugs anytime soon. Hey, get some downers. Let's try those. Oh, my God. I feel like this was actually one of the most noteworthy fights in Beverly Hills history. Yeah, this was pretty good. So it starts with Yolanda takes...
Starting point is 00:04:27 They arrive... They arrive. I can't wait for Melbourne. They arrive in Holland. And Yolanda, of course, is claiming everything is Dutch. She's like, oh, look, the room is blue. It's so Dutch. Oh, look at the horses. That's so Dutch.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Oh, people are on bicycles. That is so Dutch. There are two chairs in this room. That's so Dutch. Oh, people are on bicycles. That is so Dutch. There are two chairs in this room. That's so Dutch. Dutch people love chairs and beds. Dutch people love to sleep in a bed. A man held a door open for me at a hotel. That is so Dutch. There's a tick in the ensuite. That's so Dutch. Oh, they have pillows on the bed in a hotel room.
Starting point is 00:05:02 That is so Dutch. So it starts with that. There's, I guess, a little tension in the air just because Kim and Brandy are there. And you know they're going to be awful. You just know. Because Brandy has been winding up her little Coke doll. Winding her up. Winding her up.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Crank. And they finally get to dinner. And by the way, Kim Richards was the last person ready to go. They all meet in the lobby. She was the last. Never forget. Always. Never forget airport gate.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Comes in wiping her nose every time. So they go to dinner finally. And of course, since this is Yolanda's trip, it has to begin with a Yolanda speech. Yes. By the way, a very... Better come hard to my dinner. Yeah. By the way, a very... Welcome all to my dinner. Yeah. By the way, it's also a very stirring the pot speech,
Starting point is 00:05:49 if you ask me. Oh, yeah. She's like, let us all talk about our deepest issues to make us closer together, because that's what the Dutch do. For example, my daughter got DUI. I am so sad. Okay, now who?
Starting point is 00:06:02 Kim? Now who? Yeah. Which, of course lisa rena who is already a pro housewife before any of this even happened she's already learned to manipulate every little thing to her favor she's taken somebody else's sobriety and made it her own storyline the whole year yeah she has gone around to every house i mean there are some things you got to give Kim a little credit for. Lisa has done that. She has made it all about Kim's sobriety, blah, blah, blah. And so, of course, Rinna, who's just been told off by Kim,
Starting point is 00:06:38 and Kim says later she'd been texting her, let's just drop it, is the first to speak. And she starts fake crying about her sister who died. I mean, it's terrible to say, but it's true. She was fake crying about her sister dying when she was 21 of a drug overdose. And I'm sorry if I come across too harsh, but that's why, Kim. And then Kim's like, God damn it. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I mean, on the one hand, I can sort of understand Kim's frustration because she said drop it like three times. I get that. On the other hand, Lisa was sharing something. I was just trying to kind of – I think that Lisa was trying to kind of illuminate. It was sort of like an apology. It was sort of like this is why – so I'm sort of like sorry that like I know you keep telling me to drop it. But if you want to know, this is why I've been like a little crazy about it. And I think she was sort of trying to be like, sort of send an olive branch or whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And then, and she's like, so that's why. And then Kim's like, she's like, no, I'm sorry if I, you know, if I have, you know, really like come on too strong or like messed with your situation. And then Kim's like, you have, you have. And the music just like goes from like being sweet and like sympathetic to suddenly be suddenly being like, okay, everyone get ready, here comes the fight. Yeah, but you have gotten into my life, and you have told me stuff. I don't appreciate you. You're not my director. And I thought that was a moment, I thought that was a nasty moment for Kim, actually. Because I think that, I do, yeah, I think that was like, yeah, because I think that I do. Oh, my God. I think that was like ready to fight.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, because I think that Lisa was being nice. And while Lisa's crying about her sister, Kim's rolling her eyes and giving her dirty looks. Kim should have just said, thank you. And it would have dropped right there. It would have ended right there. Or she could have said, thank you. If you're really recovering, you say, I really appreciate that. Thank you for explaining yourself.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I'm sorry i got defensive it's just i don't appreciate people questioning my sobriety on national television that's all you know when i've obviously been working on it for three years it's starting to feel like people are like going after me on purpose and i just didn't appreciate it that's all i'm sorry i yelled that's all that's all she had to do but kim is obviously either still use i mean no nobody who's in recovery is that defensive. I'm sorry. I've never seen it. When you're in recovery, that's when you
Starting point is 00:08:49 hit rock bottom and you just become, you have to learn to be accountable for your actions and realize that people, the way that people are reacting to you is because of stuff that you've done. In the case of Kim Richards, she was high as a kite with Lisa Rinna in a car for an hour.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So of course Lisa Rinna's going to go around asking people, like, is everything okay with Kim? Is she really sober? Like, I honestly think that, I mean, I know I'm not, like, alone in this, but I think that, like, you know, Lisa Rinna doesn't know Kim very well, and she was exposed to Kim being very high
Starting point is 00:09:23 and disruptive for a night, and I think it's totally reasonable especially when someone like lisa rena has had this uh exposure to people who've been addicts i think it's reasonable for her to go around and be like hey what's the deal with kim is she really in treatment is she does she have a sponsor like is she okay i think it's like it is during the pot but it's also like a reasonable stirring the pot like the pot needed to be stirred a little bit well yeah it's saying you know she's saying she's sober but no one quite it's like no one questions it has she even been to rehab because you know it's pretty rare to be drunk since you're six years old or whatever and then um just suddenly be sober because you hired some guy that comes to your
Starting point is 00:09:59 house and tells you everything's going to be okay every once in a while you know that's not really the program and some people don't believe in the program. Like Passages, I met an addict this week. We were talking about addiction, and he was saying that Passages doesn't believe in that. They don't believe in the AA way of doing things. They have a whole different way of doing things, which is about personal responsibility
Starting point is 00:10:18 and what caused you to do drugs in the first place and why you're making that choice. It's not that the drugs are evil. It's that your choices are self-destructive because you hate yourself or whatever you know yeah there's like different ways to look at it but kim's not even doing that she's she's never said what she's done she's hired some guy to come in and talk to her occasionally like some kind of therapist she says she's in treatment that's what she said no she's learned in treatment in and out of treatment for years right that's what i'm saying i wasn't saying it as as a support for her but i'm saying that's like all she says this vague
Starting point is 00:10:48 term being in treatment which you know it's treatment is is actually supposed to it's like an ongoing thing like i have a friend like one of my very good friends is sober and he he's great he's like you know you would think that this is a demon this is an issue that he no longer has to deal with because he's just, you know, he comes to bars with us. He is, like, around drunk people all the time. Like, it just seems like, oh, like, he has a handle on this.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But you know what, though? He still goes to AA meetings religiously every single week. Even when we went out of town, like, a group of us went out of town, he found an AA meeting in Big Bear, which is where we went. Like, he, it's like he it's like it's
Starting point is 00:11:25 important because it's like important for a lot of people to stay on track you know and i think that one of the issues here is that there doesn't seem to be any indication like that kim seems to be doing anything now that she's out of treatment like it's like it should be in my mind i shouldn't say in my mind but it just it would seem that if you're following a certain brand of treatment, maybe not the passages version, that you'd be doing some outpatient stuff. Yeah. So, I mean, that's from lookers on. They're like, well, I don't see her in treatment. And she's still acting really irrational and erratic.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And even before that night, she was still acting like a drunk. And I don't know if that's because so many of her brain cells have been eaten by the alcohol and i'm not even saying that to be a dick but you know long-term drunk sometimes they're just like that's it yeah you know well the other thing is it's not like kim was just a drinker anyway there were drugs involved don't you remember when she was crawling around on the floor trying to find a baggie i mean what the hell was that yeah it's not just drugs yeah i mean it's not just alcohol well you know also i mean um you know, Kim's defense to Lisa Rinna was like, listen, like, I've been sober for three years. My real friends have seen me. And my real friends know I've been drinking.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And my real friends are proud of me. And my real friends would have said something if they saw that kind of behavior. And Lisa's like, oh, I saw it. Yeah, exactly. Lisa's like, well, I did see it. kind of behavior and lisa's like i saw it yeah exactly he's like well i did see it and i thought that was such a great thing for her to say because it doesn't matter if brandy or lisa vanderpump or kyle haven't seen it what matters is that someone saw it and and it's like i don't know i just think it's like i i i don't think that it's wrong for lisa to have gone and talked to people because
Starting point is 00:13:03 listen put yourself in that situation. How many times have you been with someone that you don't really know very well and they are wasted? Imagine you go out with someone and they're wasted or they're just a sloppy mess. And then afterwards you go,
Starting point is 00:13:19 what's the deal with that person? They're drunk, right? Are they an alcoholic? It's a normal thing. And this was what ran through the entire episode. with that person like are they like they're drunk right are they like an alcoholic you're like it's i don't know it's like a normal thing all of this is that and and this was what ran through the entire episode not just this fight but the what makes this worse is that they're on national tv right so she's basically saying you're going on national tv and calling me a drunk behind my back to everybody on camera and using it as your storyline. And then you're coming to me at some party acting like you give a shit about me when obviously you don't
Starting point is 00:13:50 because you've been hurting me by saying all this shit about me on national TV, which hurts my children. But the thing that bugs me so much about Kim is she cannot even phrase it to where she's ever responsible. She says things like alcohol ruined my life for years and now it's not going to anymore and i'm not going to let lisa either no alcohol didn't ruin your life you ruined your fucking life you ruined your children's life you did this kim you drank you used you were the fuck up not you were on the and you and you took a pill you took a pill that you were like, well, you know, she keeps saying, well, I took a pill and, you know, it didn't agree with me. I just took something for the pain. It's not as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Like you don't take a pill that's not prescribed to you, especially if you're an addict. And that was obviously not just a pill. Look, anybody who – I'm from addicts. I could be an addict at any point. Lord knows I go there and experiment and I've taken pretty much every pill and I've never taken a pill like that that makes you act like that. She was a drunk
Starting point is 00:14:53 mess. That was not a pill. I mean, give me a break. So to even play with her on that is everybody being in denial. And I can't believe that nobody said there's no way that was a fucking pain pill, Kim. There's no way. What was it? Yeah. I don't know i mean i mean we sound very harsh right now i feel like we're sounding like it's your fault yeah like it's not like it's not we're not trying to like shame her being like she should be ashamed of the fact that she's an addict but it's more
Starting point is 00:15:17 like she should it's more like it's frustrating to hear her be so like i feel like being incredibly uh defensive and not understanding her role in this situation you know that's i think that's what's frustrating for me personally yes that's what frustrates me just coming from it being raised around it and having so many family members going through it right now to see somebody being so irresponsible about it about pisses me off i don't care representing sobriety or drug addict yeah i'm. If you are, you're probably one of my best friends because I'm no angel. But it just bugs me seeing people take zero responsibility. You've got to own your shit, man.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And this girl not only doesn't own it but puts it on everybody else and tortures everybody else with it. It's nobody's fault. And I also really don't like, just to fast forward a little bit into the into the fight um when this is actually the most fun fight it was i know well it was like fun but like serious too because the thing okay so we'll just describe a little bit of the fight and i'll get to this point so what happens is that kim gets really mad at lisa renna and then she's like well we don't talk about in your home life we don't talk about harry or whatever and she starts like implying that she has some sort of dirt on lisa um lisa rinna like that she knows something like things aren't right like maybe there's an affair or maybe there's some infidelity or things are like fake or whatever she starts to get really nasty about it and you know in my mind that was
Starting point is 00:16:40 like it just read as brandy it was like clearly brandy has oh yeah beating her things like well i heard at least serena's doing this and you know the reason why she's doing it by the way this is my theory the scene when brandy threw the wine at eileen and then eileen and lisa were like you're crazy you know rather than brandy you know it probably made brandy feel like shit you know these are two women that she looked up to and they're both like you're crazy and brandy's way of dealing with it is probably to turn them into the bad ones you know rather than to acknowledge the fact that what she did was like totally batshit crazy and ridiculous you know that's like very basic psychology you know like well no one takes brandy seriously anymore so she's using somebody else to fight her battles and it's so obvious that
Starting point is 00:17:21 she's doing it and she's just sitting there there with a little smile on her face while she drinks her wine and watches it. Yeah, exactly. So she obviously is feeding all sorts of lines to Kim about Eileen and Lisa. Because in the middle of this, while Kim is starting to talk about, suggest things about Lisa's home life, then she starts going after Eileen. Because Eileen is chirping up. Eileen is great during this fight, I'd like to say. She is so soap opera dramatic.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, she pulls out her Kristen DeMera. Yeah. She really does. She's giving her those eyes and everything. It's awesome because Kim starts pointing at both of them going, and you too. And you too. She goes, don't point your fucking finger at me, Kim. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I was like, you go, boo. Yeah, and then she, all I remember, Eileen said a bunch of good things Kim. Don't do it. I was like, you can go, boo. Yeah, and then she, all I remember, Eileen said a bunch of good things, but all I can remember is her being like, shame on you, Kim. And I was like, yes! I love that. I'm sick of you, you beast! And she went, beast? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yes. Yes. It was amazing. She's like, I invite you into my home, you know? And then Kim's like i invite you into my home you know um and then kim's like well i don't like you i don't like you and then aileen said something which i appreciated very much she said you know what she's like well in this moment i don't like you which i thought was very good because she was saying in this moment yeah and kim goes i don't like your hair, your face, your attitude. And then she starts going after Kyle.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And she's like, why don't you stick up for me? It was just like this whirlwind of awfulness that was coming out. Like, just, it was crazy. I mean. She's like, Kathy's the only sister who supports me. Yeah, when she starts saying Kathy. There's no support. You know, if I'm drinking too much, Kathy will eat three boxes of ice cream. She's supportive.
Starting point is 00:19:08 What do you do? You're making money and you're raising children. You think you're so great? When she compared her to Kathy, oh, I was like, this woman is evil right now. And on top of that, it's like, you can see the ghost of their mother talking through Kim right now.
Starting point is 00:19:24 She's a hateful witch. And you know that Kathy supports Kim by putting money in her account and making sure there's a bodyguard standing outside with a bottle of Stoli in case Kim gets enough energy to come to a family function. They're like, no, no, go back to bed, Kim. Go back to bed. Kathy's given us this bottle of medicine for you. Just lie down, darling. Yeah. Kathy doesn't want her near any family function.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It was such a nasty moment. It was so intensely real. That's why I think it was so shocking. That's why I was like, oh, my God, what is happening right here? Because this wasn't just like a spat in the basement of a New Jersey home, you know, with hair tugging just for the camera. This was a deep shit is coming out right now and like you know it goes back to my theory remember my theory i had i don't forget what it was which show made me say this theory but like oh it's about orange county about how like the
Starting point is 00:20:16 slow build all season long and then once you get to the fight it's like the most crazy thing ever because it's been a slow build as opposed to new jersey where it was like you know a fight for fight's sake right off the bat yeah yep well this one too is um an addict in the corner you know right it's someone who's like to me i'm sorry to keep saying it but to me it's someone who's obviously still using being defensive because nobody who's working on themselves and working on their sobriety would be defensive like that nobody i would i'm i i actually will not say whether or not she's still using because i really don't know but what i will say is it's what you just heard what you just said is that like she is not someone who's working on herself it's clear she is or she's not doing it
Starting point is 00:20:59 in a productive way that seems to be showing any demonstrable effects. Because she is still pointing the fingers literally at other people. You know? When she's the one who... She's the one who acted crazy that night at that poker night. You know? And as Eileen mentioned, Eileen's like, no, you actually never apologized to me about that. You know? That's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:21:18 That's a really big deal. If you're hosting something and someone comes in and they're drunk and being crazy and then they never apologize, of course you're going to harbor resentment towards that person. Well, she didn't even really harbor resentment for her towards that. She was just talking about the basic drunk thing. I don't know that she was resentful. I think she was – I mean maybe trying to be helpful. I mean I don't really know. I don't know Eileen's motivations.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It's hard to tell what she's thinking yet because she's not out of the closet as a rank bitch yet. She will be. She will be. Either way, so Kim comes back to the Harry Hamlin thing and then Lisa just loses her shit. First she tries to
Starting point is 00:21:59 jump across the table and tries to strangle Kim. Which is like, you know, not totally unreasonable. I put in the recap, Rinna lunges at her to throttle that turkey neck. This is how the Pilgrims did it for the first Thanksgiving. Sounds about right. Grab that turkey neck.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Hook it up. And then she has that amazing moment where she, like, rises slowly, like one of these, like, Disney villains, like, gaining power, like Ursula rising from the water or something like that. She rises up and she's like, don't you dare kick your hands off my husband. Throws down that glass.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Throws the wine at Kim then throws the glass down on the floor. And then Kyle goes running. It was amazing. And then Kyle runs out. Kyle runs amazing. And then Kyle runs out. Kyle runs away. She runs away as if the building just caught on fire.
Starting point is 00:22:50 She doesn't know what to do. It was this amazing primal reaction. And Kim's pointing going, everyone will know! Everyone will know! Oh my god. Then they all leave. Meanwhile, Kim's sitting there Sucking the fucking wine out of her dress
Starting point is 00:23:07 Meanwhile yeah Meanwhile then Brandy somehow makes it about her She's like now I'm She's like this is crazy Now I'm here with glass on my skin Like Brandy's the real victim here She got glass shards Which probably is just like ice cubes you know
Starting point is 00:23:21 And then Kim's like me too I got it all on my hair I got it on on my hair. I got it on my face, my skin. You have any pain pills that hurt? Yeah. So meanwhile, so this is the point that I wanted to get to a little while ago. Was that then Kim starts complaining to Brandy about like, listen, you know, come at me.
Starting point is 00:23:40 It's fine. But when you start talking to everyone. She literally said this, babe. Everybody's out of the restaurant except Brandy and Kim. Kim's just screamed, Everyone will know! Yeah. Shannon Bedorsa. Why is everyone...
Starting point is 00:23:54 How can people be so mean? That's what she said! I was like, bitch, are you kidding? Yeah. She leaned back and was like, How can people be so mean? Unbelievable. Meanwhile, those poor Dutch people in the restaurant were like, what is going on here?
Starting point is 00:24:08 So then what happens is that Kim then has this monologue where she says, look, when I was drunk, like, I almost lost my whole family. And now I've been working on my sobriety really hard. And for someone to be going around and talking to everyone and to raise suspicion about my sobriety this could make my kids like never trust me this is really important this could this affects my kids like don't go after my kids so i sort of understand the warp logic i get it but at the same time i don't think you have a right to say don't go after my kids when you have just suggested on national tv that there's like a sham marriage going on between lisa and harry like talk about first renee did it first that's why she did it that's what she tells yolanda well she did it which is and that's classic brandy that's classic brandy because brandy's whole
Starting point is 00:24:53 who's also an addict yeah brandy's whole thing is like if you hit me i'm gonna hit you back and just the same way instead of like two wrongs don't make a right you know and that's what kim did which is like if you are going to imperil my kids i'm gonna imperil your kids which is really fucked up you know but she imperiled her kids because she looked like a total cokehead nutcase like that girl looked like she she found coke immediately after coming off the plane that's what it looked like right she looked completely wasted screaming yelling like a maniac she's doing it to herself i mean if, if her kids are embarrassed, they've always been embarrassed, and nobody's done that but Kim. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And that's the flaw in her logic, because her logic seems to make sense. Like, don't, like, you know, you're getting in between me and my family. Don't do that, okay? But the truth is, it wasn't Lisa Rinna who got, is getting in between her and her family.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It was Kim Richards, who took a pill, did not know what the side effects were, acted like this, and she's the one who caused the suspicions to be raised. Lisa Renner wouldn't – That's just silly. Like Kim Richards took a pill. That alone, again, is just silly. That was not a pill.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Kim Richards went completely haywire and off the wagon. Regardless, whatever it was, she was in an altered state at that party, and you, you know, you have to take responsibility for that. You can't be like, well, I ducked a pill. I didn't sit well with me. When you are sober, that's like, I don't know, in my mind, that's like not enough. If I were like a family member, that's like a, that's a really big deal. And of course, like you have to understand the repercussions. Like, of course, if you have history of substance abuse and then you act like that, of course people are going to be questioning your sobriety.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And so it's not really Lisa who is, it would seem like it's Lisa who's getting in between her and her family, but it's really Kim. Like Kim, you have to take responsibility for your actions. But she never will. And speaking of never taking responsibility, I love that Brandy sums all this up
Starting point is 00:26:42 by going, these women just don't know how to let something go oh my god eddie cyprian that's one of the night yeah like uh go slash eddie cyprian's tires again why don't you how about why don't you uh go like ruin your friendship with lisa based off of sheena how about that yeah they don't know how to let things go um how about you so then the ladies go kind of their separate ways and their separate groups. Everybody's sobbing outside.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And Yoli stays with Randy and Kim and is like, you cannot do that to somebody's family. And then Kim does her whole, that's my family speech. And Rinna's like, I will never speak to Kim Reddick again. I know. Cut to them talking the very next scene. The very next morning. But I appreciated Yoli going up to Kim and being like,
Starting point is 00:27:30 you can't talk to people that way. What happened? You can't talk that way. You can't talk. But it's like, she's right. Yeah. You know? Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yoli. So it was the, I mean, it was probably funnier than, obviously we're making it more serious because it's serious shit. Like, it really is. I mean, I was hooting and hollering when it was happening because I just couldn't believe it was happening. But this is a serious podcast so we have to talk about it seriously.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, we have to talk very seriously about it. But it was really, I mean, it was amazing. I don't want to die hairy! Don't you fuck with hairy! We just look over the table and grabbing at Kim's turkey neck. And then Kim's like, well, I mean, I was
Starting point is 00:28:13 afraid. I almost got my throat ripped out and my eyes poked out with glass. Poor Kim. Unfortunately, none of that happened and no one's going to give you a vikie. She's like, let's do that take again. We're filming Fast and Furious, right?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Okay, where's the car? I got to get another glass thrown at me. Okay, take three. Okay. What did you think about Kyle? Ronnie, you always have a lot of very vibrant opinions about Kyle. You have a lot of conspiracy theories that Kyle, a lot of his behavior... Kyle is so excited because now everybody...
Starting point is 00:28:48 This is an example where everybody sees... I'm not saying that Kyle's never had to go through anything. I'm just saying that Kyle makes everything about her. So Kim's having a nervous breakdown, whatever the hell's going on. So of course, immediately, Kyle's like, now you see what I have to go through!
Starting point is 00:29:04 She's outside sobbing and like, this is my life. This is what I have to deal with. And while that's not untrue, she she's just not helping. She's it's all about Kyle. It's not about. And I said this last week talking about my own situation. This has made me realize in my own situation, it's not about me or my pain. It's about the person with the addiction.
Starting point is 00:29:31 They're not thinking about me. They're thinking about themselves. And Kyle had no problem with Kim's addiction when she was living off of it in the fucking 80s or whatever. And Kim was out there making her money, doing whatever she was doing back then. Kyle had no problem going to all those Hollywood parties with Kim and getting crazy and doing whatever. But now, cleaning up the mess years later, Kyle wants it to all be about her. And if your sister was such a drunk, awful mess that you just couldn't,
Starting point is 00:29:58 you were so ashamed and she was always doing this stuff, why do you drag her on TV and make it part of your contract that she has to be on the show where you won't be bitch right i'm not buying it kyle like kyle just needs her there to be well maybe here's a theory i'm not saying i necessarily believe this but maybe the theory is this it looks like one of the dynamics is that like kim is always saying that kyle is not there for her so i feel like maybe one of the reasons why Kyle has this contract where she won't do the show unless Kim is on it is that it's like evidence building.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, see, I do care about you. It's like she's trying to constantly get that moment from Kim where Kim says, you know what? You do care about me. Like, you have been there for me. And so maybe this is the dynamic of their relationship, is that Kyle isn't
Starting point is 00:30:49 trying to get... It's not so much that she's trying to, like, profiteer off of Kim's illness, although she probably is, but maybe it's this thing that, like, she's perpetually seeking that moment when Kim finally acknowledges the stuff that she does for her
Starting point is 00:31:06 and she thinks that by saying, I won't do the show without Kim, she's making a sacrifice in some way and Kim will acknowledge, oh, thanks for getting me on this show. You did something for me. Maybe that's the mindset behind it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Does that make sense? I think she's doing it because Kim's a fucking mess and she needs a job and can't get one and Kyle's getting her a job. I think she's sick of giving Kim money and she's sick of having to take care of Kim. I think part of it is like, let's give Kim an opportunity to have another chance at
Starting point is 00:31:38 life, which is good. But I think part of it's like, I'm sick of taking care of Kim and I'm you know, I mean, it's a lot of fucked up stuff that goes into a family where there's that kind of drama and addiction because that family didn't only have to deal with addiction i mean their mother was apparently a horror show they were like having to work as children they didn't have a normal life but um i do think that kyle's just a drama queen that makes everything about herself. It's hard for me to see anything otherwise. That's all I see.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I think it could be both, to be honest. I think it could be. It is all about herself, and it is also about trying to resolve this, like, this relationship that's been there since the beginning, where Kim has been the older sister earning money, and it's probably been held against Kyle
Starting point is 00:32:23 that she doesn't contribute the way her sister does and Kyle trying to probably perpetually prove that she contributes and that she helps out Kim and that as much as Kim helped her out as a child, now Kyle does whatever and it's probably nothing is ever good enough and so
Starting point is 00:32:39 she probably is self-involved and also totally fucked up in the head by this whole relationship. It's probably everything. And, you know, Kim keeps talking about how Kim is only – or Kim keeps talking about how Kyle is only supportive sometimes and blah, blah, blah. Well, listen, as anybody, which I'm sure all of us have one in our family know, you can't just be supportive of an addict. That's not how it works. You can't just sit there and comb their hair and feed them and treat them like babies and give them everything they want in life an addict has to take care of themselves and get
Starting point is 00:33:07 their own shit together it's no one else's you know how many times has kim ever called kyle and said how are things going kyle how are you how are your feelings how are your children what's going on in your life you know she doesn't you know every time you talk to kim it's whatever she's feeling in her horrible problems and her husband who's dying and her kids who are gone. It's all so hard. And la la la. She's one of those people who thinks of nobody but herself and her own fucking problems.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I wouldn't answer her fucking calls either. And I don't answer the calls of most of the addicts in my family either because it's a bunch of bullshit and they want something from me. They're calling for money or they want something. And it's usually nothing good, especially if they're using at the time. So, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:50 At this point, I have really no sympathy for Kim. She needs to get her own shit together. At the same time, she's made me laugh more than any other housewife probably ever. So, I don't want her to just die, but get it together. You know, one of our listeners, Michael Cook, who's an avid
Starting point is 00:34:05 contributor to our Facebook page, he actually wrote a really interesting comment on our page. He says, Kim Richards wanted to make up some nonsense about Lisa Rinna's home life. Rinna should have brought up either Kim's dog almost eating her niece, or Kim's son sprinting naked through the streets of Calabasas in the midst of a mental breakdown. Either would have worked
Starting point is 00:34:22 and probably shut Kim down fairly quickly. Well, I think that that's a good point, and i think that what kim was talking about was probably what kyle already brought up last week in the limo when she said when how long has harry been sober i like that kyle just brought it right up like that because it made lisa um talk about it in a sensible way without really throwing her husband under the bus. Like she made it sound very, it was in a way that he couldn't be shocked. Like someone like Kim can't just bring it up
Starting point is 00:34:51 and make it this big shocking revelation because they've already talked about it. Well, Kim doesn't know that. So I'm sure it has something to do with that. Because I mean, looking at Harry, he doesn't look like the type with the penis that's still working well enough to go bang a 20 year old. So it's probably something along the lines of your husband's an addict and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Or maybe Kim is just, like, very confused by Mad Men. She's like, well, you know what I hear about your husband? He's working against Don Draper. He's going to destroy that agency. So I got some dirt on your husband. I know that. He acted so innocent, and then he tried to get Don killed. He acted so innocent, and he tried to get Peggy off the account. That's not right.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Your husband likes sweater vests. I'm telling everybody. Here's what I know about your husband. He has a time machine. He came from the 60s. He's hiding something. The government's after him. I think you should keep it quiet. I'll tell you one thing about your husband.
Starting point is 00:35:44 He has a couch in his office with no cushions in it. Meow. I love Kim getting all her dirt about Harry Hamlin from Mad Men. I guess what I know, times are a-changing, and your husband has to get with it, okay? Hey, listen, tell your husband it's not the 60s anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's the 70s, man! Hey, here's what I know, okay? It's a thing called the Rolling Stones, okay? It's called, like, peace, love, and rock and roll. And your husband doesn't know about it, so he has to get with it, okay? Hey, if you're going to San Francisco, where are some flowers in your hair? Here's what I know about Harry.
Starting point is 00:36:37 He's living in the time when I was the biggest superstar ever. And he offered to do me on his cushionless couch, okay? Hey, when I tried to leave Rich Mountain, he was like, you stay, you stay, and I'll never forgive him. Gina posted this picture of Kim as a wreck on our Facebook page. Every week we put, what do you guys want to talk about today
Starting point is 00:36:57 on the podcast? And it's a big, fun thread. And this week, Gina posted this picture of Kim just looking just completely gone. And it says, three years sober, cough, cough. And that's just it, Ms. Richards. Sit down, you drunk. Get it together.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Believe it or not, this wasn't the only thing that happened this episode. That's the best part. This was the first 12 minutes. So there was some stuff where they went, uh, bike riding. Like, so basically Lisa Rinna and Kim Richards kind of buried the hatchet a little
Starting point is 00:37:32 bit, just enough to be civil on the trip. And then, but Kim Richards did not apologize to Eileen or to Kyle. They went on a bike ride. They visited, um, Yolanda's mom.
Starting point is 00:37:43 They went to, so then they went, went up going to one of these like um pot cafes where hashish cafe is you know and sorry you were saying something no no no no i'm listening so it was sort of funny because they were all suggesting that they were all gonna smoke weed and then no one did anything they all kind of like shared like a little piece of like weed cake um so this it just it seemed like it was gonna be just like a stupid nothing scene you know of them all just eating stuff leave it to brandy to cause drama right because what happens is that like kyle kyle's like being like no i'm not gonna have it i'm I'm not going to have it. I'm a parent. Whatever. So Brandy's like... Kyle was ridiculous
Starting point is 00:38:26 though. She was. Oh, wow. How do they do this? What's this called? The joint? The dube? What do they do? They put it in here and then they roll it in the paper? Oh, that's crazy. I've never seen something like that. Oh, drug addicts. Shut up, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I know. It was really annoying. And by the way, let's hand it to Lisa Vanderpump for being the only one willing to sort of be like, okay. Lisa Vanderpump was amazing in this entire episode, actually. In that whole scene, we ignored everything she said, but she was amazing. She's like, Kim, darling, that's enough. Just stop it, darling. Enough. Darling, have some tuna tartare.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Chef Penny imported it right from the saloon. Oh, we also missed another great Lisa Vanderpump moment. At the very beginning, when they first get to Holland, everyone's like, are we going to go to the red light district? And Yolanda's like, look, I don't have a problem with prostitutes who are just trying to feed their children. And Lisa goes, darling, you shouldn't have a dick in your mouth to put food in your children's. I mean, come on. The queen queen that's why she's the queen but I love that you know she was I mean she probably would have smoked a joint if everyone else said she probably just didn't want to be the only one not doing it because everyone was like concerned about like you know the image it would
Starting point is 00:39:38 be so I mean doing drugs on tv I mean hello who thought that was a good idea i mean it was legal but i mean either way um so brandy says to kyle like whatever don't act like you don't do this the last time i smoked weed you were there which i believe i actually believe that and i'm obviously i didn't deny it she was like brandy so children that's why I didn't want to mention it. Yeah, exactly. So then it becomes this whole thing. So then Brandy gets into this whole thing where she's like, I hate when people are being fake. I get accused of doing all these things.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And then they act like they don't smoke weed. And I have children too. And you guys are calling me a drunk slut on TV. And I have children too. And that's hurting my children. But you are a drunk slut on TV. You fuck some guy in the bathroom you get drunk on tv you lie about everybody on tv everything you're doing on tv is what they're commenting on and on that i you know that's what's making me nuts about brandy i'm actually siding with kyle so much that
Starting point is 00:40:38 it's making me really pissed off at brandy because kyle's right you know the stuff they talk about her doing is true stuff the stuff that they're talking about she's accusing kyle of doing drugs or whatever that's like some party where they're friends and it's off camera and it's why are you doing that yeah and it's it's also like for someone for someone like brandy who her whole thing is that like you know when you accuse me like of this you know like it imperils my position with like, you know, when you accuse me, like, of this, you know, like, it imperils my position with my kids, you know, it's like, like, I'm a parent, you are getting in between, like, do not fucking get in between with my kids, whatever, so what does she do? She does the exact same thing to Kyle, and I think what's annoying is that, like, she should know better, because as the recipient
Starting point is 00:41:18 of these situations, where she doesn't like people calling her a drunk because her kids could be taken away from her. She should know that it's not... Brandy's a hateful slag. Nothing she does comes from a place of sense. She's a hateful human being. She does nothing but bully everybody else, victimize everybody else, and then act like she's the victim
Starting point is 00:41:42 once they say something back to her. And she's done with this show. I mean, that bitch is gone. She's trying to start this huge fight. She's screaming like a petulant child and everyone else just ignores her and walks away from her. And then she's stuck walking behind the whole group pouting. Fuck off. You're out.
Starting point is 00:41:58 You're off this fucking show, bitch. I don't even know why I'm bothering talking about you on it. Why is she so frustrated that Kyle doesn't want to talk about smoking weed on camera? Like, it's annoying that Kyle's... She's just trying to start a fight because she's had nothing to do the whole trip. Yeah. Because she made Kim do all her dirty work.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Now Kim's not there, and Yolanda's not kissing her ass, and she has nothing to do. And she knows that if you don't do anything on a housewives show, you're out. So she's trying to start some fight with Kyle, and Kyle knows that if she gives gives brandy a fight that she's going to be keeping brandy on the show so kyle's not going to give her a fight i mean these women are just done with brandy they're not even going to fight with her anymore you know they're just going to let her self-destruct and watch her fall back into oblivion yeah i mean bye bitch is it is it annoying that kyle is acting like totally miss innocent like she has no idea what pot is? Yeah, hell yes.
Starting point is 00:42:46 That's so annoying. But why make a thing of it? Just move on, Brandy. Yeah, just let it go. I mean, if you're going to fight with somebody, fight with them over something real. But Brandy refuses to interact with them in any kind of realistic way, you know? Yeah. So she doesn't have any relationships with any of them.
Starting point is 00:43:02 So she can't do anything with them except antagonize them. And it's just old and it's tired. I'm tired. I'm tired of talking about it. Bye, Brandy. Bye. Bye, bitch. Well, next week she slaps Lisa Vanderpump.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So that'll be interesting. I think it's just like a place laugh. I don't think it's real. I guess we'll see. Unfortunately. Yeah. So what else? So that's pretty much how this ended, right?
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah. I think we hit all the major parts of the episode okay let's move on and well done again lisa rena very well welcome to a lifetime career on the real housewives as long as this shit's on they will never fire you exactly well done let's move on okay so which show should we talk about next? Do you want to talk about Vanderpump Rules or Shaz of Sunset or Atlanta? I don't care. First, we have to say happy birthday, Paula Jones. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Happy birthday, Paula Jones. It's your birthday. You're alive and we're glad. I don't care. Let's talk about Shaz because that'll be short for me. Okay. Still hate that show. Still hate all the people on it.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Hope they all die. They're disgusting human beings. Hate that they open buying gold and bragging about how much money they have. Gold, gold, gold, gold, gold. We're so rich. We're so rich. Ah, Persian. We're so rich in Persian. We're so rich in Persian. Fuck off. Get to Sir. Get your fucking party bus to Sir and go have fun, you assholes. What about... Gross.
Starting point is 00:44:28 All of you. Gross. Oh, you know what? Like, the best for me was Reza talking about how he's going to decorate Gigi's apartment and then we go to Reza's apartment and it's just like the most hideous thing since Martin Lawrence Ballard graced Bravo. It looked like a Lebanese estate sale.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And I've been to many. It looked like a Lebanese estate sale. It was like, it was like a Chevron disaster. Everything was Chevron. It was like, it was basically like a whole bunch of road detour signs in different directions on the wall, on the carpet. It was like everything Chevron and everything crazy colors. And then the kitchen was, it was like so disaster. I was like, it looked small. So everything felt cramped. If he's so so rich why does he live in such a dump i mean that is a small
Starting point is 00:45:09 gross apartment we saw it last year when they moved in there it's gross and small no it's a new place i think oh it's new it's not the same place from last year remodeled i think he said he got a new place that's a person i like to put chevron everywhere a new place every week yeah i got a new i get a new couch that's like purple and i have put chevron everywhere! You get a new place every week! Yeah! I get a new couch that's, like, purple, and I have, like, chevron on it, and then polka dots, and then stripes, like, lots of patterns. I'm gonna put a purple... Okay, I want the walls covered in purple and gold, and then I want a table covered with
Starting point is 00:45:37 money, and then I want a carpet that's made out of dollars, and then I want a cat hair couch! Oh! That's so Persian! Homegirl's gonna to be like, this is like the most Persian apartment I've ever been in. And it was so Persian. It was awful.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And then on top of that, oh, you know what really bothered me was when he was like making Cristal mimosas. I was like, you idiot. Like, why even drink Cristal if you're going to like cover it up with orange juice like the whole point is like you can just keep saying cristal cristal and also so we can save money because he's not using as much cristal yeah it's just with his so i'm so rich i'm going to buy a
Starting point is 00:46:18 35 000 rolex but live in a 500 a month apartment in east hollywood bitch please i know it was just it's so, so awful. I mean, the whole thing with Mimosa is that you can put Andre in there and then just cover it up with orange juice and you're fine. Yeah, he's gross. Yeah. Still gross. Very gross.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And I think... MJ, looking good, I think, has a boyfriend. Yeah. Big, hairy Jewish guy. Yeah. That should be interesting. MJ in love is interesting like watching
Starting point is 00:46:46 the thing that came to mind while I was watching their romantic scene was that Gary Shandling bit where he's talking about I mean this is years ago but on the Gary Shandling show he's like hey I was in the mall recently and you know I haven't been to a mall in forever but I have to say
Starting point is 00:47:03 ugly people in the mall, please stop kissing. No one wants to see ugly people kissing in the mall. Can I just go to the BB without seeing ugly people kissing in the mall? Thanks. That's what made me think of that. I was like, nobody needs to see your ugly asses kissing in that park. Let people enjoy their picnics. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Hell yes. I agree. That was definitely, you know, on the one hand, I want to say good for them. They're happy. They're in love. The other hand, I would be like, hmm, let's cover that up. Yeah, exactly. Stay in love in your house.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah. So let's see. I did appreciate Asa's mother quoting Boys to Men or Boys to the Men, which's like, you know, it's so hard to say goodbye to the other days. Whoever it was. You know, Boys to the Men, they say that. Yeah, her parents are moving in with her. What else? I mean, they added this new girl.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah, this is basically, the main part is that there's this new girl, Asifa, I think. She's like a halfie. Half Persian, half Indian. main part is that there's this new girl asifa i think it was a half breed she's like a happy half half persian i mean we call ourselves in my family we call ourselves half breeds but i guess i realized at the last second how rude that might sound it's on a podcast sorry sorry um but i'm a half breed so i just assumed that it's okay to call her that but probably not so she's a happy she's she's obnoxious first of all she's part Persian part what's her other part Indian and part asshole she's a total asshole
Starting point is 00:48:31 she's one of those LA girls he's like we have to jump over the fire I don't jump you guys I don't jump the thing is that like Lily would have said the same thing she'd have been like oh my god I can't jump over Yeah, see, the thing is that, like, Lily would have said the same thing. She would have been like, oh, my God, I'm like, I can't jump over a fire. But, like, for some reason, she would have, like, laughed it off and made, like, a funny comment in the interview.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And you'd be like, ha, ha, ha, don't jump over that fire, Lily. But with this girl, she's just kind of, like, obnoxious. She's obnoxious and she's trying way too hard out the gate. Yeah, because they were making comment about some of the snacks that they were eating. And then, I don't know, someone said, they were talking about Mike's dick. And then someone pointed to something. And then she's like, what, do you have like a micro penis or something like that? Which is pretty, like, not cool.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Like, not cool joke, bro. Like, if someone said to her, like, like oh do you not have like a chest or it's like your clit like gigantic or something like that she would have been pissed off right but i mean i guess mike was just drunk but the thing is mike is an asshole mike's been ignoring them all for a couple months anyway so he's obviously got some ish yeah he hasn't brought up about them well mike is an asshole because when he's sober he's like really sanctimonious and he talks down to everyone and um he takes his holier-than-thou attitude and and says all this stuff about we should be a family and then when he gets drunk he's belligerent and is a total total asshole to everyone involved and i like that his girlfriend's so ghetto oh my
Starting point is 00:49:59 god jessica like she's really she's really going there this year like she got that ring and now she doesn't care she's like yeah yelling and screaming she's like get this fucking mic off me get it off i mean it well what happened well what happens they all get into a party bus and they go to the redberry hotel where they order sliders which cracked me up um kind, uh, we'll have an order of sliders, please. Um, and then, and then, so Mike is drunk and, and Asifa's like Persian Keanu Reeves boyfriend shows up and he still has like the, the vents. Botox veins. Yeah. Real Botox. So his, uh, the, the vents of his blazer are still sewn together.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And so Mike and Reza are like, look, like, look at that. Like, look, do you see that and then res goes and like cuts it off which is i don't the whole thing was just very like passive-aggressive and like childish you know and then basically mike and this guy get into a fight over the vents on on his on his blazer it was the stupidest fight of all time yeah because he had an x on the back of his blazer i I don't even get what that means. When you buy a blazer, the vents, there's like a little vent at the bottom, like these little flaps, and they're sewn together.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And you're supposed to, like, cut. You're supposed to, like, cut the thread so that the vents open up. And so the guy hadn't cut it. And so it was like... He thinks that's fashion, bro? He thinks that's fashion, bro? Yeah. And they literally get into a fight over it.
Starting point is 00:51:25 They start to like. And he's like, I see you laughing at me over there. You know, coming into a new group, you think I want people laughing at me? And he's like, bro, you think that's fashion? He's like, you think I think that's fashion? How stupid do you think I am? He's like, bro, you're stupid. And then they start trying to hit each other.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And then Mike grabs his jacket and he's like i'm taking this jacket home for a uh for a party favor whatever yeah it was it was so stupid but there was i hate this show it's up it's pointless they don't they're yelling at each other over nothing nothing fucking happens on this show res is a rich, fat guy who cares about money. MJ is still a chick who only cares about having a man. Asa only cares about her victimhood as a refugee. Gigi's still some
Starting point is 00:52:15 crazy slut who does nothing with her life. Why should I give a fuck? I don't give a fuck about these people. They make me crazy in the actual Hollywood and they make me crazy on TV. I can't with them. We're going to have to get Matt Whitfield back on this show to at least talk to you about this. I still love this show, but they
Starting point is 00:52:31 are idiots because they are acting kind of like the kids from Sir, except they are older and richer, and they shouldn't be acting like that at all. I do like the Shervin character, though. He's cute. From Wondery, this is Black History For Real. I'm Francesca Ramsey. And I'm Conscious Lee.
Starting point is 00:52:52 What do most people think about when they hear the words Black History? Rosa Parks, Reconstruction, MLK, February, Black History Month. Exactly, exactly. There are so many stories of Black History that we just are not really talking about or thinking about, especially outside of February. And we are about to flip the script on all of that. Because on this show, you're going to hear a little less. In August 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. And a little bit more.
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Starting point is 00:54:44 He's the one who looks like Mike, but has a high voice and isn't belligerent. Oh, yeah, so is he going to be on the cast now? I think he'll probably be a friend of the Shahs. Oh. Yeah, I don't know. That show just makes me nuts. Okay, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yay! I'll try and maybe have a more positive attitude next week, but I actually came into it with a positive attitude this week, and my face was just crinkled up the whole time. I was like, I cannot with this show. But thankfully, there's enough shows on Bravo that we might be able to skip this one. Until we're doing two episodes a day.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah. People. Yeah, which could be soon. So let's go to Vanderpump Rules. Yes. The season finale. The season finale. The season finale. So it started off, it was the annual photo shoot, darling.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And we're going to do something vintage, something retro. Listen, this time, for this photo shoot, I want to do something sexy and hip, darling. Yeah. Sexy, hip, new. All right? 50s. Yes, 50s. Listen, we're going to call this SUP, as in sexy, unique photo shoot.
Starting point is 00:55:51 SUP. All right. I want everything pink. All right. I want a pink car. I want a pink house. I want pink everything. The future is now, and it's the 50s.
Starting point is 00:56:04 All right. Stassi's gained a little weight, so she shows up for this photo shoot. I don't want her to feel out of place. You know, women were bigger back then. We had bigger bowls. We ate things. No one knew about white bread in the 50s, darling. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Get Stassi a milkshake, and let's get this on the road. Chef Penny, get your craft service table over here. Put down some tuna tartare and a California pizza with some barbecue chicken on it. You know, something for Stassi to eat. Let's get him goat cheese balls. Oh. Awkward photo shoot. I love that
Starting point is 00:56:33 Tom is so dramatic. He's like, yeah, just one time I want to do a photo shoot, Kristen, where it's not all about, you know, being mad at Jax, Kristen. Yeah, and then they're like, just once. To the year before, and he's being mad at Jax, Chris, dad. Yeah, and then they flashbacks to the year before, and he's all mad at the photo shoot. It's like, dun-dun-dun.
Starting point is 00:56:51 His modeling career is... Just in a row, Tom's upset. His modeling career has been derailed. But what I like, first of all, is that when they're all getting into hair and makeup, Sheena's talking about how she got her marriage certificate, and they're talking about weddings, and Jax is like, well, you know, sometimes that piece of paper ruins everything, and Sheena's, like, talking about how she got her marriage certificate, and they're talking about, like, weddings, and Jax is like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:06 sometimes that piece of paper ruins everything, and Sheena's like, really? Because I got that piece of paper in the mail, it was the coolest thing ever! Shut up, Sheena. Just shut up, like, you're married, get it. She's so funny. She's like, yeah, I'm married now, I got it,
Starting point is 00:57:22 it's so cool, I got a pimp, I got a certificate. Then they showed a clip of that wedding and Sheena from behind, good lord with her fucking back fat flaps coming out of that crop top. Was that supposed to be part of it? Girl, put that away. Crop top. It's ruining everything.
Starting point is 00:57:40 This wedding is fucked. And then they cut to Tom Sandoval getting his hair and makeup done and he's like you see how this is the farthest point out of my head I don't want to accentuate that Kristen Kristen
Starting point is 00:57:53 it's Kristen's fault don't accentuate the farthest parts out of my head Sina as Sina does opens by going to her bestie, Ariana. I'm saying, listen, this is what I heard for sure. Jax, this is the official statement from Jax. Tom for sure had sex with that girl.
Starting point is 00:58:18 For sure. Ariana's going to cry. She's like, I don't believe it because, you know, I was talking to him the whole time. How could he't believe it because you know i was talking to him the whole time how could he have been having sex yeah you didn't talk to him the whole time yeah but we were texting well was it facetime no because facetime didn't work in the room which does sound fishy yeah um and she's like well that's fishy like i do really believe it she's like yeah i really believe it
Starting point is 00:58:45 like thank you that whole scene was like thank you shut up i know who's here this is nothing new jack's has been saying this week after week why is it now something new that jack's has said this i know i know so then they all get dressed up meanwhile jack's i mean there's been a lot of nesting going on by everyone. You know, Stassi isn't the only one who's gained weight. Like, Jax, Jax is looking mad puffy. If I may say mad puffy. He's injecting.
Starting point is 00:59:13 He's also, every time Jax walked into the scene, he was wiping shit off of his nose. I mean, come on, keep it subtle, Jax. We know you're doing Crystal or something, but kind of, let's try and keep it a little subtle there, buddy. He's like, I don't know anything. He's definitely not doing coke.
Starting point is 00:59:29 He's not talking about, like, jerking, shaking, twitching. Come on, Jax. I don't think he's doing coke, because he should be a lot skinnier if you're doing that much coke. So then they all do this photo shoot, and I love that James is like, people may think I'm just a busboy with mad DJ skills, but no, I do a lot more than that.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I'm like, well, I don't think anyone thinks that you're a busboy with mad DJ skills. I think everyone just thinks you're a busboy. I think that's just where it ends there. I think that's where the assumption ends right there. Yes, I'm out of bread. Yeah. And then I loved how at the end, they're like, Lisa, get in the photo, get in the photo. She's like, okay, I'll do one photo.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I'm like, Lisa, you're in full hair and makeup and you're dressed in a 50s theme. Don't act like you did not have the plan to get in the photo shoot all along. I love you, Lisa, but don't act like that. That was funny. Yeah. So then they finally confront Jax. And he's like, I didn't say that. What?
Starting point is 01:00:20 I didn't do anything. I never said anything. That's a lie. Yeah. He's like, I never said anything. That's a lie. Yeah. He's like, I never said anything. I love when he does that. Every season, he lies full on, on camera, and then the next
Starting point is 01:00:31 day, he's like, huh? I never said that. What? No. I never said that at all. Huh? What? Yeah. Yeah, and I guess we'll get to the end part later, but... So what else happened? So then the big. Come to serve for the after party.
Starting point is 01:00:50 They'd be more excited with Chuck E. Cheese than Sir. Can they go somewhere else? No, it was the Sir 10th anniversary party, which is why they went. Oh, right. So I love. So Stassi shows up. She's like, fine, I'll go. I'm so over it. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 01:01:03 And then I'd love. I'll go for some goat cheese balls yeah so she goes so she shows up she gets like a drink she like stares at Katie from across the room and then she like does like a shot with with Kristen
Starting point is 01:01:18 and like others and then so she and Katie like don't talk and then so of course Christina comes up and she's like, they're of course shooting these nasty looks at Katie's face. And Kristen's like, if she had any sort of respect for your friendship, she would have stood up, walked over and said, how are you? Like, shut up. You're just not a girl.
Starting point is 01:01:39 It's so awful. And she really doesn't think very far ahead. I mean, she's really on the wrong team here what do you think is going to happen next year with you dumbass no one's going to talk to you yeah it was like why why why does katie have to come over and say hi to stassi how about stassi goes hi and says says hi to katie which is actually what ultimately happened well yeah because she had to do something she can't be on camera because nobody's talking to her or making an effort towards her. They're like, bye, bitch.
Starting point is 01:02:08 That whole scene where they were like, bye, Stassi. Bye, Stassi's birthday. Bye, Stassi's, you know, controlling ass. Bye, Stassi. That was the best montage ever of every single cast member being like, bye, bitch. I think it's pretty obvious that Stassi is not coming back next year. I mean, it's like the fact that they're even billing her appearance on the reunion as a special guest appearance. It's like, well, she's a cast member.
Starting point is 01:02:32 It shouldn't be a surprise that she's showing up. So she's clearly gone. Yeah. Which is fine. Bye. You were awful this season and no one liked you. Yeah. She's awful.
Starting point is 01:02:43 She's awful every season. But we liked her before because at least she was fun. This time she's just, she's, she's awful every season but we liked her before because at least she was fun this time she's just she's uh she's just takes herself she thinks she's so famous i like when they were like bye stassi and your stupid statement necklaces yeah i know christina but um uh yeah i i mean and i like that when she tried she pulled over kitty and was like can we talk and then kitty's like still was like no you are like it's not all about you, Stassi. Like, get out of here. It was good. Stassi was just very pathetic this season.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And she's going to like probably tweet a bunch of things being like, whatever. I don't care. I'm off the show. I'm so much happier now. But she's sad. She's sad. And fell. She's dumped by her boyfriend in like five minutes.
Starting point is 01:03:23 How is he still with her? How is anybody with her? And how does anybody with a real job and a real career handle this reality TV bullshit? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But I think that's the last we're going to see of Stassi until the reunions. And then she's gone.
Starting point is 01:03:39 No more. Yep. So then. Sorry, I just burped. So then let's see what happened. I, so then, sorry, I just burped. Um, so then let's see what happened. So then there was a confrontation outside where Jax and the Toms like sat outside and like the drinking area and, and they were like, we don't understand why you just keep
Starting point is 01:03:55 on talking about us and trying to sabotage our relationships. But at this point I have to say both Toms, it's like that fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me like they don't seem to understand the shame on me part because they keep welcoming jacks into their life as as well my theory is that these guys go out of town together and they all fuck people the whole weekend yeah and the rule is they're just not supposed to tell on each other but jacks gets caught you know i mean jack's basically said as much during one episode. He's like, you guys do the same shit I do, but I'm the one who looks like an idiot on TV. And you guys look like saints.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And I'm sick of it. It's time for you guys to get caught for what you did. I mean, he's basically said that in an episode. And I believe that. I think they go out of town. They all do it together. But then they don't want to admit to it when it comes time to it. Because why should you?
Starting point is 01:04:42 They're not caught. They shouldn't have to admit to it. But, you know, Jax is sick of being the only one that looks like a loser but he's still the only one who looks like a loser because no one else called him out his friends didn't do any of that stuff to him right which they should have well i liked also how like when they're like they're talking to jacks all of a sudden kristin comes wafting out and she's like seriously hi boys seriously she's like hi seriously hi seriously i just talked to lisa vanderpump inside like seriously i had to quit in order to move on with my life and how are you lisa vanderpump when she sees lisa
Starting point is 01:05:20 she's like hi lisa and lisa's like hello darling what have you learned and she's like well i learned to not be mean and to not tell lies and to not try and ruin lives and to not try and ruin people's relationships and to not try and steal things from the restaurant and not give blowjobs to customers that's like geez okay okay okay this down. Seriously, it was like a bad relationship, and I had to leave it in order to grow. Seriously. And how are you, Lisa Vanderpump? Good day to you, Lisa Vanderpump.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Good day, sir. I still like Kristen being in her best behavior. Top of the morning to ya. And how is the family? Seriously, seriously. How's Pantora? Seriously, seriously. How's your gay son-in-law?
Starting point is 01:06:15 Seriously. Yeah, so she goes out to the break area and she's like, hi boys! Miss me? hi, boys. Miss me? Seriously? Seriously? And Christian's like, I mean, Tom's like, hey, Chris, dad, it's a good thing you're out here so we can ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Did Jax ever say that I seriously cheated with that chick? She's like, a hundred million times, yes. Yes. Absolutely on my horse grave seriously seriously don't look at give doris in the mouth like yeah yes and jack's is like no no i didn't know i'm not listening to this is bullshit no no i didn't know i never said it. They have TVs, you idiot. It's on TV. Do you understand? It's on TV. Seriously? Yeah, Jax. Whatever, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:14 We can't hang out with you, man. Because you're not a fan. So whatever. She's like, don't lie. Can't switch horse faces midstream. Seriously? Seriously? Two horses in your hand is worth more than one in a stable.
Starting point is 01:07:31 You can lead a horse face to a whore in Miami, but you can't teach the horse face how to drink from the whore. Seriously? Seriously? Not good with metaphors, Jax. Seriously. So, she, then tom finally was like kristen i don't even care just get out of my life leave me alone i want nothing to do with you and then she's like fine you win ariana so then she walks up to ariana and she says i have said everything
Starting point is 01:08:02 i could possibly say good luck luck to you. Seriously. Seriously. And then that was pretty much it. I guess she dropped it, but you know she didn't drop it. She didn't drop it. Actually, really nothing happened in the season finale, to be honest. No, but it was still pretty funny. I laughed
Starting point is 01:08:19 a lot at it. The best part was at the end, they're all saying that mean stuff to Stassi like bye bitch yeah and then jacks goes outside no one invites him to the after party because they're all going to some party after yeah no one invites jacks and he goes back to get his truck and it's been towed he's like my truck's been towed and then they show his stupid tiny penis truck being towed away yeah actually what that's it's like the saddest thing one thing we didn't talk about was that there was this big there's this big build-up like
Starting point is 01:08:49 like stassi's like the one thing i don't want to do at this party is i don't want to be in the same room as jacks that's the one thing i don't want and then there's like a build-up of like okay stassi's talking to katie and jacks has arrived and what's gonna happen what's gonna happen and then stassi kind of is like oh my god god, Jax is here? I have to go, I have to go. There's a mistake, and she leaves. Which was sort of cool, but there was no build-up of when are Jax and Stassi going to reunite. The tension between them wasn't really there this season. Season one, it was like the two of them were together.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Season two, they had broken up, but there was this on-and-off thing. But this season, it was like, I kind of forgot that they were ever together in the first place so i didn't really care if like who cares if they're in the same room you know it felt like a strange yeah he would have just been like hey stassi and she'd have been like hi yeah it just seemed like a strange he's not gonna be chasing her out yeah it felt it felt like a very unnatural kind of like steak that was oh another thing we didn't talk about was poor katie um this you know she wants to be proposed to on the season finale. Yeah. And she's basically told him, I want a serious commitment out of you.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I want a serious commitment out of you. And then they show him with his Bravo shrink, like, the thought of being married to somebody makes me want to kill myself. Okay. And he's like, but I don't want to tell her that. Why wouldn't the shrink say you need well maybe she did say she needs i mean the girl deserves to know so eventually he did what did he ask for six months or something oh yeah six months and she's like if you don't propose to me propose to me after six months then move on just move on if he needs six months to propose to you after this long move on
Starting point is 01:10:26 she has a right to know you can't just tell your shrink that there's no way you're ever getting married but never telling this girl and then just getting her a dog or whatever to lead her on I mean that's awful but frankly she deserves what she gets she knows he's like that yeah absolutely and how about Tom who's saying to Ariana
Starting point is 01:10:42 you know I've never met a girl like you and I I've been thinking about this. And Ariana, I want to ask you, will you move in with me? It's like, oh, okay. She's like, yes, of course. I'm like, I thought they already were moved in. But like, why was that like a climactic question in this episode? It's like, thanks, Kristana. Thanks, Kristana. It's like, thanks, Kristen! Thanks, Kristen! It's like a divorce-less marriage, Kristen! A divorce-less marriage.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah, so that was done. But I think the season finale will be a maze. I mean, the reunion. The reunion, yeah. You know that shit's gonna be amazing. Yeah, it'll be fantastic, actually. I can't wait. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Let's have Yolanda moderate it. You can't talk that way to people, Jax. You can't talk that way to people. Okay, string on ring. Ring on string, string ring. That is no good. You can't do that to people. We invented string in Holland.
Starting point is 01:11:42 It was used to tie meat together. In Holland, we give rings and clogs. And then we put a tulip in there also. And you give it to people. You send it down a river. And then people pick it up and say, will you marry me? And then you do. In Holland, we spin a piece of chocolate-covered cracker.
Starting point is 01:12:00 And whoever it lands on, you have to marry. Oh, by the way, I love when Yolanda saw the guy she used to date. Oh, yeah. And she's like, I don't remember you. Did we kiss? And he's like, oh, yes. And she's like, oh, no. Don't remember poor people.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Sorry. She's like, do you own Justice Windmill or do you own this entire acre? No. That's not. Do you sell T-shirts also on my property? No. Okay. No, I don't know you.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I'm sorry. Oh, Lord. Okay, so Vanderpoop Drools. That's all of that. So what else do we have over here? Atlanta. Atlanta. Oh, Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah. Oh, Phaedra. Yeah. So why don't we, well, why don't we talk about, uh, can we talk about candy and Todd first? Um,
Starting point is 01:12:50 yes. Candy is the nicest person stuck in the worst relationships I've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. And so our, our lovely friend, Angie, who was,
Starting point is 01:13:01 was she on last week or two weeks ago? Angie, you know, Angie Thomas. Yeah. She, uh, she texted me and she goes, all she says is this, the bonnet excuse to get out of sex. Like,
Starting point is 01:13:11 like, it is ridiculous. It is ridiculous that Todd would be like, oh, sorry, Candy, I can't have sex with you because you got a bonnet on. Just ask her to take it off. Yeah, it's like, how sexy do you think that is, babe? She has to put up with your... Well, the bonnet wasn't a problem until now.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Yeah, she's like, see? Now, right, everybody has a bonnet also, and I don't see her complaining about it, sir. But, uh... Whatever, Candy has to put up with your stupid waves, you know? And I don't mean that waves are stupid, I mean that his waves look stupid. His waves are like borderline nini flapper waves oh my gosh um
Starting point is 01:13:51 todd's awful do you think he's cheating that's the rumor that he's all fucking everybody in la i don't think he's cheating but i think he is now being complacent and he shouldn't be because he got candy burris yep and she's got a prenup and he shouldn't be, because he got candy bursts. Yep, and she's got a prenup, and I don't know how much he's making from Hollywood Divas or whatever, but I doubt it's as much money as she's got in the bank, so he needs to back down a little bit. He'd need to back down a lot. Yeah, he's not cool. He's trying to suddenly be the man in the relationship, when that was never the case.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Sorry. Candy's always been the man in the relationship. Just deal with it. Get over it get over it right so let's see um i don't think claudia did much this episode right claudia did nothing actually she just showed up at that dinner party at the end which we'll get to um uh they uh let's see cynthia did something towards the end um Nini Nini does nothing right all she does is brag about that she's in Cinderella I'm in Broadway girl I'm studying my lines in five lines at the Wicked Stepmother
Starting point is 01:14:54 she's like you better pick that rice up out the ashes bitch you ain't going nowhere okay there you're done yeah I was like don't forget Nini you're not actually Cinderella so um so Phaedra You're done. Yeah. I was like, don't forget, Nina, you're not actually Cinderella. So, let's see. So, Phaedra.
Starting point is 01:15:09 So, Phaedra. So, Apollo's in jail. Phaedra brought in an apostle to cleanse the house. Fix it, Jesus. She's like, okay, look. Just please say fix it, Jesus, a few times in here. Yeah. They're like, can you please cleanse the garage?
Starting point is 01:15:27 Could you please cleanse this drill? All I wanted to do was fix that doorknob and I cannot do it with this dirty drill. Can you please cleanse this kitchen island? Thank you. And I like that she's like, I do not appreciate Apollo telling the children
Starting point is 01:15:43 about him going to prison. I don't know how to deal with that. These children are innocent. And then the next second she's like, we are cleaning every trace of your father out of this house. That's exactly what I was thinking. Like, talk about trauma. Like, comparing your father to, like, a demon that must be exorcised. These poor kids.
Starting point is 01:16:02 And their kids are so cute. Oh, my God. They are so cute. Oh my god, her old son is so smart and so bright. So anyway, why can't I remember really any of the scenes that happened on this episode? Let me see.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I'm looking at the recap, which is hilarious. I remember where it winds up. Ultimately, it winds up where Candy decides to invite everyone to Fogo de Chao. Right? First off, Candy comes over to Fogo de Chao. Right? Well, first off, Candy comes over to see Phaedra. And it's made
Starting point is 01:16:32 clear that Candy has not paid any kind of attention to Phaedra during this whole Apollo drama. This is the new thing. They're trying to drive a wedge between these two, which I feel like is so craven. These are like two friends and between the producers and the other women, they are more than happy to decide to tear these two apart. But that is pretty cold when your husband's going to jail and all this shit's going down and you're reading about it in TMZ every day and Candy never even calls her.
Starting point is 01:16:57 And she's like, well, I've been busy, too. What? Doing what? Like supporting your midget husband and fucking wondering why your play closed? You don't busy to me bitch you better get over there and be nice to your friend you can at least text her yeah i mean that's true that's not cool it's not cool it's not they're just show friends you know they're just like teamed up on the show i think well and well phedra says that nini calls her every day to uh to check in on her well but yeah nini's calling in every day so she can say she can yeah exactly that's exactly what i was gonna say she's just like getting she's team building she's getting an ally so um oh so
Starting point is 01:17:31 one thing that happens there's all this talk about um so paulo has has produced these texts alleged texts from phaedra to an african prince mr chocolate and so was it this episode that they that kenya sees it for the first time and kenya turns it into a sob story for herself because she's like of all everyone says that she was the one who always called me a whore but she is the whore for all this horror everyone's calling everyone a whore but she is the biggest whore of all she's crying you don't get to call me a whore you don't get to call me a whore. It's like, whore. I heard everybody in America
Starting point is 01:18:08 at that point yell at their TV, whore! Yeah. I sure as hell did. Don't tell me not to call you a whore, whore. Yeah, be sure, Kenya, be sure to dog-ear this for your pilot about the housewives. I'm sure it'll be really good. Whore-shaming.
Starting point is 01:18:24 So anyway, they all wind up at fogo to chow and um so they're all actually having like a pretty like friendly dinner and then cynthia tries to stir the pot and it's like oh she's it is the worst most awkward pot stirring it was so bad that everyone at the table made fun of her in an interview cynthia is so bad at this and can we just go back one second yeah to the scene with cynthia and peter oh god where cynthia's like babe you know everybody knows about this text now and blah blah blah and he's like look babe this isn't between this isn't about us babe this is about them babe it's their business i'm like you're the one who brought it up on national TV, dick, and read the text that he gave you
Starting point is 01:19:08 on national. I mean, come on now. I know. We just mind our own business, babe. Yeah, right. You're so stupid. So anyway, so they have that dinner, and then Cynthia, so bad at her job still, tries to bring it up.
Starting point is 01:19:24 And instead of just saying, hey, we've all been talking behind your back about these texts that Apollo showed my husband. So what's up? She's like, well, you know, I think it's really important that we all sit down together at a restaurant. And first we wait for the water to be filled. And then someone brings us bread. And then we look over the menus. And then it's important that we order a glass of wine or something and then it's super important that we ask about the specials
Starting point is 01:19:50 and then you know i was thinking like something that's super important for us to talk about is like you know when you get the bill like how do you split it do you ask the waiter to do it or do you do it also phedra um you're cheating with a black guy named Chocolate. What? Just say it! No. It was so awkward and so awful. I mean, Phaedra had a right to be pissed off right then and there. Yeah, I agree. And then I love how Kenya just couldn't let
Starting point is 01:20:16 Cynthia do it anymore, and she was like, Oh, yeah, you're sleeping with some African man named Chocolate. And Phaedra's like, well, this seems to be like a running theme with this group, an African man named Chocolate. And Phaedra's like, well, this seems to be, like, a running theme with this group, an African man or whatever. And then Phaedra went after her with a pocketbook. Yeah. Well, actually, though,
Starting point is 01:20:34 it was funny that, like, I think it was Phaedra who made the point that was, like, Apollo proved that he could fake text messages before. Like, why is it that when Apollo shows text messages between you, as in Kenya, between you and him, that those are fake,
Starting point is 01:20:50 and yet now he shows it with me and Mr. Chocolate, and those have to be taken on face value. That's true. I forgot that those were faked messages. Yeah, Apollo knows how to do it. I forgot that he did that before. All you have to do is, like, find an accomplice, or someone, or anyone, text them, and then just write it in your contacts as Phaedra, you know?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yeah. And then it looks like it's a text from Phaedra. Like, it's, like, the easiest thing to do. Yeah. Oh, man. Well, that was pretty good. Do you think, I mean. Well, Kenya stood up, and it was about to, like, smack.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I'm not Kenya. I mean, Phaedra. Phaedra was about to smack Kenya. I'm not Kenya. I'm Fajra. Fajra was about to smack Kenya. She got up and she almost went Lisa Rinna on her. She got her pocketbook. She almost lost her temper. Ran out of there. It was great.
Starting point is 01:21:33 And then Kenya was like, yeah, you do it just like Portia did last year and got her ass thrown in jail. Which is just what you want. Yeah, exactly. I'm surprised Kenya wasn't like, I got glass in my hair. She's like, I got knockoff purse lint in my hair. It hurts. Knockoff purse lint. Does that mean the lint is from a knockoff purse? Yes. Or the lint is a knockoff in and of itself?
Starting point is 01:21:58 No, the lint is from the knockoff purse. No, it's knockoff lint from the knockoff purse. Like, this isn't lint from that knockoff purse. This is knockoff lint from that knockoff purse no it's knockoff lind from the knockoff purse like this isn't this isn't lind from that knockoff purse this is knockoff lind from that knockoff purse the fact that phedra does her confessionals in this episode in that dress it's like oh yeah out of nowhere this that wedding dress with like diamonds and chandeliers shit hanging off of it oh my god i love that and then they were like notice how candy was slow to walk up and get behind phaedra i like to like they were trying so hard they're like did you notice that candy didn't even say anything to you candy's back there candy's doing this i was
Starting point is 01:22:34 like you guys are so awful yeah they really they're all disgusted what else is candy but you know candy loves her food she wasn't gonna leave that she's like i am not leaving until i turn this thing red this thing yeah and fuss is free because you know bravo is paying for it she's like i am not leaving until i turn this thing red this thing yeah and fuss is free because you know bravo is paying for it she's not gonna leave her free ass chicken sandwich there whatever she was eating yeah and by the way that made me want to go to fogota chow so badly and yesterday i was in traffic right next to it and i was watching it through the window there's there's a new fogota chow downtown and i was watching the waiter like slice off the meat from the skewer. I was like,
Starting point is 01:23:07 please, sir, can I have some more? What is that place? I've never been there. It's a Brazilian steakhouse where you pay I think it's like a $50 price fixed. Prefixed, whatever. There's one in La Cienega. There's one in downtown now. It's all-you-can-eat meat. And then a huge salad bar with all those Brazilian cheese balls.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Oh, I love it. I've never been to Fogo do Chão, but I've been to a knockoff in Long Beach that was average. But Fogo do Chão is actually supposed to be really good. I just love that they always have these fights and these giant, these upscale national chains.
Starting point is 01:23:39 It's always at Rosa Mexicana or Fogo do Chão or, I don't know, like the whatever grill capital grill you know they just go to like upscale fast casual yeah a little chainy chains yeah um i what else happened in this episode uh i can't remember anything that happens on sunday you know i have to say that to me atlanta is the most entertaining. I mean, it's the one I watch and I just laugh and I love it.
Starting point is 01:24:08 And even if we weren't doing this, it's probably the one I would never miss. But I never really have that much to talk about. I don't know why. Because a lot of the dramas are the same stuff. I just think they're all so funny. Even the ones I hate. Like Nini, I hate half the time that she's on the screen. But I still love watching her. I would still be actually excited if i met nini you
Starting point is 01:24:29 know yeah i feel like um well we had a lot to say a few weeks ago when claudia took down nini that was a really fun episode that was a really great one and then it's always sort of like the same shit every single week and it's like entertaining but like what else can you say on it which is kind of funny because vanderpump rules the same thing every week but yet we find ways to just like just like exhaust it like just i mean we just basically say seriously seriously for well it might just be because we leave atlanta till last and we're so tired by the time we get to it but i really just don't have anything to say about i know i don't fucking love it yeah yeah it's i love everybody on it even stupid cynthia i love on this stupid show cynthia really is she was so bad this week she's lame i mean really seriously seriously cynthia she's like i think
Starting point is 01:25:19 we have all we all have things we have to say but we don't want to say them and we should say them as proper women but you know put them out there and we don't have to put them out there. We put it on the table, but under the table. And when I turn this green, you all say what the problem is. When I turn it red, you stop and then you get some meat, but you only meet with the green, but don't say it with the red. What are all these women doing
Starting point is 01:25:38 teaming up with Kenya? I mean, what are they thinking? Teaming up with Kenya? Do they think that she's not going to turn right around and screw them over? Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and Kenya is the enemy of Nini. I mean, the casting is great this year. Yeah, I love how there's basically two factions, two groups. I love when that happens.
Starting point is 01:25:58 You really have to hand it to Kenya, but also Claudia for completely bringing Nini down. Nini's done. I mean, Nini has really nothing left to do. Because she's been put in her place. And nobody's listening to her anymore. Her power has been completely sapped. And I like when Kenya said, Have you noticed that everybody comes against me goes down in flames?
Starting point is 01:26:18 Which is kind of true if you look at the show. But I think Claudia gave her a lot of help. She tried to bring Nene down and couldn't. But with Claudia's help, she brought the bitch down. She's down now. I want Claudia and Nene to fight again.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I don't know if they will or not. But I hope they do. Yeah, I think Claudia maybe felt stupid after the first time and is now trying to be nicer. But hopefully not.
Starting point is 01:26:39 There's always the reunion whenever that is. Oh, my God. Well, how long is this show? It's on episode 16 or 17 like yeah my god what episode is beverly hills on do you know um i don't know but give me back my life i think they i think they taped their reunion so i think it's coming up soon because beverly hills and well they taped it early because yolanda had to go get medical treatment for limes
Starting point is 01:27:01 yeah well no uh vanderpump rules and bever Hills premiered, I think, the same week. Or close to the same week. So it's going to be wrapping up pretty soon. Well, no, because they have more than Vanderpump Rules. They're only on episode 16. They just did episode 16. They usually go to 23. Yeah, I mean, they're at the vacation.
Starting point is 01:27:22 So once the vacation happens... You've got two months left. No, vacation usually means it's like three or four episodes after the vacation. And then three reunions. Yeah. So you've got two months left of that, darling. Darling. What's up, Penny darling?
Starting point is 01:27:36 Well, I'm sure there'll be another Atlanta vacation coming up soon. And then we have the Melbourne Wives starting tomorrow or tonight depending on when you're listening to this. Well yesterday depending on when and where. You never know it could be tonight, tomorrow or yesterday. Maybe it was a year ago. When are you listening to this? Going back to the future.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Who am I to judge your timeline? Alright well I think that's it for this. I think we've done a lot of talking today. We've been talking for two. That is a lot of talking. I'm exhausted. I was exhausted after the gay shit on the bonus episode. I know.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Between the bonus episode and all this stuff, like, I am talked out. We went all gay politics on the gay episode. I mean, on the bonus episode. The bonus episode. I'm tired. We were really serious a lot because we were getting real serious about sobriety, too. We're like, she is an addict, and she needs to take accountability. And that's how, like, she did that.
Starting point is 01:28:22 too. We're like, she is an addict, and she needs to take accountability, and that's how, like, she did that. Well, I've just had really serious issues in my life this week with both gayness and addiction, so I'm, like, super sensitive with all that shit, so sorry if I went a little off the rails there, everybody, but this is my outlet, alright? I don't know people in real life.
Starting point is 01:28:38 You're it. You're it, people. You can hear all of it. The truth is, there's only one pill that Kim Richards needs to take. It's a chill pill, okay? Take a chill pill, Kim. Take a pill to chill, Kim. Oh, and please go watch our friend Amy Phillips' new video of Lisa Rinna. Oh, she got that voice down.
Starting point is 01:28:58 She is so good. So go to Bravo. Go to the Bravo site and watch her ass do Lisa Rinna. Really good. Hashtag her. Bravo site and watch her ass do Lisa Rinna. Really good. Hashtag her. Well, it's not literally her ass, but that would be funny if it was like Ace Ventura style. And happy birthday, Paula. What else do we have to say?
Starting point is 01:29:17 We're done, right? Yeah. So if you want to hear this infamous bonus episode where we talk about gay politics, just go to patreon.com forward slash watch what crap ends. Or on our Facebook page, there'll be a link up to it. There'll be a link to the Patreon link.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Okay? Huh? Yeah, yeah. So the way it works is that we put the link to the private episode on Patreon. So if you go to our Facebook page, you can find the link to Patreon, which will then point you to the episode. It's a a little confusing but it's actually pretty easy and I think that's all that's it everybody
Starting point is 01:29:51 thanks for listening I'm going to eat a sandwich and then I'm going to upload this do it alright bye everyone bye where's the stop button bye that's so Persian
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