Watch What Crappens - #2473 Aesha Scott From Below Deck Med

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

Aesha Scott @aesha_jean joins us to chat about killing it as chief stew on multiple seasons and iterations of Below Deck, the differences between real life and show life, and helping to shape... a modernized HR landscape of the franchise. Watch this recap as a video and get our bonus episodes at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:25 ad-free right now on Wondery+. Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and sitting right next to me today, Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie. Hi. Welcome. Oh, hello. We're having a really special day because we don't have a recap
Starting point is 00:01:07 and we don't normally do interviews, but we sometimes get the opportunity to talk to people and we just can't pass it up, you know? And today is one of those days. We get to speak to Asha Scott from below deck and below deck Mediterranean. Isn't she great then? We love Asia is very fortunate for us because there's a lull in
Starting point is 00:01:32 recaps right now or shows on Bravo right now. So like Ronnie was saying, we don't always have the time to be able to interview people. And so the fact that this worked out well, that Asia was around, there's a gap in the Bravo schedule. We're like, let's do this. Let's talk to Aisha. Yes, and we did talk. We did. She's hilarious. She's sweet. She's kind. She's gorgeous. And now she's pooping in an actual toilet instead of a bucket in a van. And we couldn't be more excited for her. Let's get on with it. Please welcome to the show, Aisha. Hi. Oh my God. Hi. Aisha Scott.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Hello. How are you two? So good to talk to you in real life. We only talk to you on Instagram. Yeah. I know. I know. And it's just so nice to talk to you in real time because I listen to your podcast all
Starting point is 00:02:21 the time. And I honestly, how are you two so funny? How do you think of the things that you say? We're usually cracked out on coffee and we're exhausted. So just whatever pops into our brain is what pops in. It's a bunch of nonsense. I honestly just cry laughing the whole time I listen to each episode.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And I'm like, how did they get there? How did they come up with this? It's so brilliant. Oh, thank you. Thank you. So how's it going with you on your third, is this your third iteration of Below Death? Or I guess it's your second. Fourth, my fifth?
Starting point is 00:02:56 Well, it's my, well, I've gone back, I slided myself around and now I've come back home to my first iteration. So yeah, so this will be my fifth season now and my third mid season. Is Australia, is Down Under going to come back? Do we know? Oh, I'm not sure. They're not allowed to say. You don't have to count. No, they're very secretive on Below Deck. They are. We get a big handshake if we say anything. And it's hilarious because Below Deck is on year round and it's just Below Deck every time.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I don't know why they're so secretive, but it works because it is secretive and then I am shocked every time somebody comes back. I'm like, wow, oh my God, I can't believe it's that girl. I know, because I don't know anything that goes on outside of my series. And so I'm the same when I'm watching it and you see a return person, it's so exciting. So you really don't watch the other blow decks? Is it just more like- No, I watch them, but I don't know any of the the behind the scenes info. Yeah until I'm like watching it Yeah, but it likes to keep a tight lip
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yes, I just want to say also thank you for waking up at the butt crack of dawn to do Right now and I can see that morning sun. And by the way, you're also not in a van right now. We can see Look I upgraded like I've got doors. I've got windows, curtains, an outdoor table. Oh my God, that's so nice. So what do you guys do? Do you actually just walk into the bathroom to watch each other poop to keep it like those times? I like to, but Scott doesn't like doing it to me, but I do it to him. The other day he left me this poof for me to look at in the toilet because I get really excited about that kind of thing. But he always, he gets very serious afterwards and he's like, just remember, never do this
Starting point is 00:04:53 to me. He's like, I still want to fuck you. I do not want to see your poo. But so funny. Well, congratulations to you. You guys just got engaged, Tom. When are you going to do it? Thank you. I, congratulations to you. You guys just got engaged. Tom, when are you going to do it? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I know it's amazing. Thank you. Well, we do it all the time, baby. Oh, yeah. Yeah, baby. Wait. Hashtag VanLive. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:18 No showers. It's a sticky time. We are going to get married. We want to wait until next New Zealand summer, so the summer of 25, 26, because we've got a lot of American friends and family and we want everyone, it is very far away, so we want everyone to save up enough money that they can come for three weeks and really enjoy themselves. You're like, it's going to be a destination wedding, but we want like, we're going to
Starting point is 00:05:44 force everyone to come basically because normally people do destination weddings, they're like it's gonna be a destination wedding but we want like we're gonna force everyone to come basically because normally destination weddings are like this is great I can cut down on the list but you're like no save up. Yeah. We're all expected to be there. Yeah well because I find that a lot of people in the States they everyone says to me oh I would love to come to New Zealand but it's just so far away. I'm like like, what do you mean? You get to do your favorite thing. You just sit down and watch movies for 12 hours, and then you're in this beautiful place. What's the problem?
Starting point is 00:06:13 So this is a great way to get people to come and actually do that. That's actually a really good point. And now, by the way, so this is a segue. Speaking of friends, who are the people in the below deck universe that you're actually like friends with? Oh, well, I... Like no one.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I hate those spot cards. I hate every single one of them. Your voice for me is so spot on. I love it so much. I really love it. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I really love Hannah. You're doing so great. You did such a good job. I love everyone. Baby mixer, you're doing much better. So yeah, who are you really friends with in that way? So Hannah, I talk to you all the time. Anastasia all the time, Fraser, Daisy, Hailey, pretty
Starting point is 00:07:10 much everyone from my latest season. Oh, I love that. So, you're friends with a lot of people. You're friends with all different. Natasha, Katie, Dave was talking to Dave this morning. I really want Dave to come back as the chef. How can we make this happen? Yeah, we know we need more mirror glazes.
Starting point is 00:07:28 That's the thing. We need more mirror glazes. He's like, I got an idea. I'm going to make a cake. Mirror glaze. A mirror glaze. Yeah, a mirror glaze. Well, it's better than beef castanets.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Hey, it's better than cardamom, you know? Oh my God. What was the spice? Did we ever find out what the spice was? No, I never found out what it was. I would love to know. And Jujie was, like, relentless with trying to find out. She was. The mystery spice. That woman must have asked me 50 times. And he just, and he didn't have an answer. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:58 how the hell have you made all of these meals and you've got no idea what spice is it? So, because he keeps saying, there is no spice, there is no spice. He's like, well, there is. He's like, there isn't, well, there is. And it was just this spice. It was like clouds of spice, dried spice going into that rice.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You watch him pour it in. I was like, what are you doing to these people? The whole marketplace went into that Mexican rice. It was bizarre. Exactly. So you're still friends with a lot of the below deck people. I love it. It's so funny because when you say the names, it's so funny. Once the season's done, you're like, you know, Kelly and Joanna.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I know. I was like, I don't know any of these people. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, even when people come back, I'm like, I don't know any of these people. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, even when people come back, I'm like, I don't know who that is. Like this season, Ellie came back and she's like, I'm big. And I was like, who the fuck is that? I don't know who that is. I know, I didn't know either.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I didn't know until she put the bunny ears on. I was like, oh yeah, I kind of remember. I mean, now that she's on a longer season. And I thought that I, yeah, I thought I watched that season. So I need to go back and watch to the very end it seems. Yeah, it was just she wasn't on that much, but now that she's been on this season, I love her.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I think she's so great. I think she's hilarious. Yeah. I know. I was laughing this morning when you were talking about the Barbie doll making the house. And when she said that, I was like, that is brilliant. I would never think of that. I just skipped Luke on.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah. Those bitches need a loose. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Oh, goodness. Are there other sub-people in the Below Deck universe
Starting point is 00:09:39 that you feel like deserve to come back onto the show or you want to come back to on the show? Well, I would really like, I know you said you couldn't remember, but I would really like Haley to come back because Haley figured here, she's just so, she's just a loose, a loose bit. She's so herself. And when she, I think the unfortunate thing was when she did the last season, she had a boyfriend, but she doesn't have a boyfriend anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And she said that she is getting that day. And I think her coming back single would be exactly what the show needs. That would be wonderful because she was, was she on regular below deck? Yes, with Fraser. Yeah, exactly. I'm actually surprised she didn't come back. I thought she was so fucking funny. And I'm also surprised that she's not with that guy because I feel like once you have a guy that you can talk to like that, you're with your guy, you know, like, she was, they were just so dirty together, you know, it's like everything was just so nasty.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Hailey's the kind of person that will turn any man nasty. So she'll find another one. She'll find another one. Yeah, I would love for her to come back. I'm trying to think of some of my other favorites. Should be great. Every season, I'm always like, this person is an icon. They should be on every single season. And then like a week goes by after the show,
Starting point is 00:10:59 I'm like, who is that? Who is that person who should be coming back to the show? I know. Well, because there are so many series, there are so many versions of it now, so many people on it that it is hard to keep up. Cause when I first started it was just Below Deck and Below Deck Med and everyone that came on,
Starting point is 00:11:14 like you'd do one season and you'd get like a couple hundred thousand followers and that kind of thing. But now the people that are just starting to come through now, you do one season and they'll get like maybe 40,000 followers from it, because there's just so many people. Right. Now I have a question. I saw a below deck thing once that Bravo did
Starting point is 00:11:34 with all the cast there. It was insane how many people were there. It looked like a mall full of people. Yeah. It's so wild, eh? So question, on the latest episode, there was a lot of drama around the beach picnic people. Yeah. It's so wild, eh? So question, on the latest episode, there was a lot of drama around the beach picnic and everything.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And Ryan, I keep on saying like- Oh my God, that drove me mental. I was watching it, I was so stressed out. Watched that entire thing. I'm just cutting to that guy drinking and having a popsicle. What kind of head of department is like, oh no, it's cool, don't worry about it guys. The primary's gonna organize her own entertainment.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, and wasn't this the first beach picnic of the season? Yes. So he doesn't have to be there. It's just, anything to do with the outside is like the exterior's job. And it just annoyed me how he took one statement anything to do with the outside is like the exteriors job. And it just annoyed me how he took one statement from Sandy, I think, being like,
Starting point is 00:12:30 Oh, you know, Gigi's got an idea for some games. And he took that and ran with it and chose like the lazy route and was like, cool. Our primary is just going to organize her, her whole own beach picker. Yeah, her own beach Olympics. What world are you living in? These people are paying thousands of dollars to be here. It's like, what world are you living in?
Starting point is 00:12:45 These people are paying thousands of dollars to be here. Meanwhile, Gigi's game is, okay, it's trivia. Who here has won Grand Slam? Me. Okay. The end. My game's done. I won.
Starting point is 00:12:58 My game's done. I won my game without winning. How many? It's one below 18 and one more than 16. Oh, did I say that already? It's one below 18 and one more than 16. Oh, did I say that already? It's 17! Is it, is it, are beach picnics common in yachting? Is, or is that like a thing that mainly we're seeing on, we see on below deck? No, unfortunately, they are very common and they're freaking irritating.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Because everything comes back, you know how like spotless we try and keep the boat and everything that comes back is just coated in sand. You just pull sand all through the boat. They're pretty annoying, but they're very common. What are other things that are actually real and yawning? Are the theme parties really a thing that you guys have to do every night? Because how many people need a great Gatsby party? I know. Why is that every single season? Honestly, the themes drive me crazy because I come from like a very high-end yawning world and I find themes super tacky, but it's just like something that we do all the time so and regular yawning you do do same nights but you do like wanna season you know you'd maybe
Starting point is 00:14:13 do like wanna charter maybe you do like some groups you do want to chart about your charters like two weeks but it's definitely not like a very like an every night or every second night thing for sure low deck is like is like it's you know, because there's a TV show, like the charters are really short. They're like one or two days. And that's not, that's not usually the case, right? No. Or two week or multi-month charter. Exactly. Like usually they're about 10 days.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I've had guests on for like six weeks before they're super, super long. But yeah, so with the show, they purposely make them really short because that makes our lives so much harder because every group, every group that comes in, it's like you've got to, you've got a whole new set of preferences. You've got to re-clean the whole boat. You've got to take everything out of the fridges, report their stuff and reorder, change the spirits. It's just so much extra work and they're just in the control room like ha ha ha That's why I feel like that's why we see so many breakdowns like I remember the yeah low deck with Francesca was the the
Starting point is 00:15:17 Chiefs do and she came on That's right. I forgot about that. Yeah, the first day she came on by the end of like the first episode She was sitting with Captain Lee crying in his space. She was like, I'm having a breakdown. No, it's so intense. Because my sister's a chief steward and she's like, I just want to vomit every episode that I watch looking at what you have to go through.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Because it's also like, it's those short charters, but it's also the fact that we don't even see the boat or meet our crew or know what they're capable of until like we join the boat and we pick up people in 24 hours. That's just so sad. So how much of your life now is doing real yacht, I'm not real yachting, but non-TV yachting.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Cause you're doing this, this seems like all the time now. Yeah not much I'll tell you that which is nice because when I first started I was I've always wanted to work in tv and when I first started I was wanting to transition slowly out of yachting anyway because it's just like you can't have a life it takes up too much of your life so as as I've gotten more and more popular on the show, I've done less and less like non-filmed yawning, which is really nice. I do, I do, I do like, it is still this weird addictive thing though,
Starting point is 00:16:35 because nothing else is like it in the world. So I still try and go, I still try to go and do bits of like temp work and I wanna keep doing that, but definitely not like more than a few months of the year. Do people treat you differently now that you've, now that they know you're on TV or do they know who you are when you do that and treat you a little bit differently when you're doing the real life version? Yeah, well the the crew all just find it really interesting. They've got, excuse me, they've got a
Starting point is 00:17:01 million questions, but the guests always get really really excited because they, you know, all the guests watch the show. They're like, I'm on a boat. They're on a boat. This is so exciting. Yeah. Um, I don't, I'm honestly, I get so tired sometimes watching the show cause I feel like you guys, it's, it looks so rigorous, the constant like tending after the guests. It's so rigorous, the constant tending after the guests. It's around the clock. Is it also with Below Deck, are you guys, a boat of that size with that many guests, you normally have larger staff or is that a normal size staff that you guys have? No. That's the thing. The boat size that I've been getting every season
Starting point is 00:17:47 usually definitely has four stews. So we're getting the most intense version of yachting you could ever get. And then on top of that, they're like, and we're going to give you one less stew. And we're gonna give you one less stew! Yeah, of course. And none of them have any experience. No! Oh yeah, because you guys have like a flooded room this season. I feel like we haven't gone back enough. But the season opened up with Captain Sandy being like,
Starting point is 00:18:14 oh well, there's a... It's leaking. It's leaking. It's leaking. I know. It's so intense. Come in here, come in here. Hey, come in here, come in here.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's leaking. Still leaking. This is my favorite thing. Captain Sandy just being so drolly excited about it. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappence commercial. Peyton it's happening. We're finally being recognized for being very online.
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Starting point is 00:21:48 season with all the sexual assault stuff that happened, which by the way, I mean, obviously, we said it on the show, but just so beautifully handled by you. And we've never seen anything like that on the show. We have seen that situation happen. Maybe not to… Have we? Well, not to that degree, but I mean, we've definitely seen the situation where everybody's super shit faced and the question of consent can be questionable. Let's just say it could be questionable. Do you find that that moment has changed things going forward And how that's dealt, like when the cast is going out and drinking and how everything is dealt with afterwards?
Starting point is 00:22:31 For sure. Like I've definitely noticed since that there is like a much closer eye on everything that's going on. You know, even after that incident happened, further on there's like when someone else was going into someone else was going into someone else's cabin we did have a producer come down and just knock on the door and be like hey just making sure that you're both okay with this and there are a lot more checks just to make sure that everyone is like coherent enough to make those decisions and they've also cut you know
Starting point is 00:23:00 if they used to make it that they'd pay for two drinks per night. And I think now it's like, if you want to have any drinks, you need to just pay for it yourself. Because they just don't want to be responsible at all for getting people intoxicated and into that situation. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, that's interesting. They did something, because you never know, you know? And it is- No, exactly. Especially because Below Deck is done out of the country. So, HR, obviously HR is so much different than a normal job.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, because there are, it does seem like sometimes you watch it and you're like, what is the line here between consenting adults who just want to have a drunken hookup and be like, no. I know. And then yes, it's like, but like, versus like when it's a real situation. And actually in that moment, how could you tell like,
Starting point is 00:23:44 oh, this is, not how could you tell, but when was like when it's a real situation and actually in that moment, how could you tell like, Oh, this is not how can you tell, but when was the moment where you said this is something where we really need to get involved? It was really interesting because over that night, when I think back to it, I can't actually put my finger on exactly why I like had my spidey senses going. I just felt like weird about it for some reason like for the whole night even from when we got in the vans and like Margot and Luke were in the back seat of the van and I was in the front seat and I just remember I
Starting point is 00:24:21 Just remember him kind of like putting her his her head on his lap when they were coming home and I could tell how fucked she was. And there was just something about like the way he was behaving and like his movements that my brain was just like, fuck this. Like I just need to get this girl to bed because I just don't want anything to happen to her. And I remember, so I put her to bed and like what they don't show is that I lay in bed with her for like 45 minutes to an hour,
Starting point is 00:24:44 like on the door side of her, just lying like no one's coming into the cabin because I just didn't want anything to happen. And then I got really, one of the reasons why I got so upset is because I had been lying there for so, so, so long. And then I finally was like, oh my god, it's like 1.3030 I've got to get up in like five hours to clean this whole boat I probably should go to bed now and I got up and went to the crew mess to make my noodles as I always do before bed and I was standing at the mic so just left I was standing at the microwave and then I just hear no no no no no no no and I hear like the producers like sprinting down the hallway, thumping down the stairs and I turn around to see them doing it and they slamming on the door.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And so when I saw that, I immediately knew that something must have happened like as soon as I left the room. And so I just like broke down because I felt like, yeah, so I like broke down because I felt like I had failed Margot in some way. And then so then after that, then that's when I was like, well, I need to go tell Jason. Yeah. Well, I mean, the truth is it didn't matter. Like if he was just waiting, it didn't matter when you would have had, you were going to have to go to some point. So it was just a time for him.
Starting point is 00:25:58 That's crazy. That makes it even, I mean, it was sinister enough, dude. Jeez. That makes it even, I mean, it was sinister enough, dude. Jeez. I know. My God. That really was probably the, I would say probably the most powerful blow deck episode. The two back to back was most powerful blow deck episodes
Starting point is 00:26:13 I think we've ever had. And one of my favorite parts of that is in the second half of it, when you guys all got together in this arena, made the chicken soup. I just thought that was such a powerful gesture. And then it was just like, it was like this maternal kind of thing,
Starting point is 00:26:29 like in a robe, Margot, with like love and warmth, and you guys all sort of came together. It was really, it was so beautiful. It was such a great one. And she's just such a beautiful human. She really is. And like that messed with her for a while, you know. And she, I think what was so cool about those episodes is the reaction from the public and how many conversations happened around consent and how many people said that it wasn't okay. And I feel
Starting point is 00:27:00 like if that was on reality TV like 20 years ago, it would have just been a totally different It was like wacky like wacky. Yeah Yeah, exactly. So I think it's it's like shows that we're progressing which is nice Yeah, it was great. And that was a that was a wild season in general. Like that was that was actually one of the best Yeah, everyone had some had a storyline going on that was actually really compelling. And there was so much chaos. And it was funny. It was funny.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And Joao coming back. So what is the state of Joao? Are we liking Joao or are we not liking Joao? God no! We're not liking Joao. The worst. It was so funny that season because I love good like told you so moment in that season. I just remember it like no one changes, especially on Broadway.
Starting point is 00:27:48 These men, they always have the like I'm Joelle 3.0. I was like, oh yeah. I know. I was about out. The thing with Joelle, what I like, people, he's so good at manipulating people and I see right through his bullshit. And the thing that I hate about him is he, he does his game is he'll go around and he'll treat people like absolute shit and then when he gets hit up about it he'll go oh but
Starting point is 00:28:13 my mom got trapped by an elephant and she got you know and he starts crying and he's saying all these soft stories and like yeah and they're sad for sure but he uses those stories to get away with stuff. Cause I'm like, if I've got to hear that your mom got trampled by an elephant one more fucking time. I love it. And I love that you don't even stand for it
Starting point is 00:28:34 because that is a trauma shield that people use and they use it all the time. He uses it in relationships too. He'd be like, you know, like when Zarina wants something, he'd be like, it just, I've been hurt so many times. I know, I'm like, wank, wank, wank, wank. I know. It's so stupid. Like who hasn't been trampled by a fucking elephant at this point, you know? Right?
Starting point is 00:28:54 Now two seasons ago, you, Toomey was your wonderful second stew. She was so lovely and so wonderful. She went on to become a chief stew on below deck med last season. Now her department was pure chaos. It was, it was kind of a disaster. So, uh, do you think that to me was given the kind of a bad edit as sort of like, uh, like she was in over her head or do you think that like, you're like, Oh, to me, maybe you should have done that. Like X, Y, and Z as chiefs to, I, I feel like, no, I feel like I really felt for to me because I think about my first full season as chiefs do when I had Ryan and a giant boat. Uh, and I just remember how insanely stressed out I was. And by that point, I had like six years of yachting experience under my belt. And so to me, being put into the same situation, but with like Kyle and Natasha,
Starting point is 00:29:53 and she only had like two years experience. And so I'm like, for her to take that on with that amount of experience, like I can only imagine how stressed out she was. So, I think she was just trying to survive. Pete Yeah. Jared Yeah, that was such a good example. Pete And it seems like, especially for, especially because it's a TV show that people are kind of lifted up and given chances, maybe at different times than they would be in real life because it's TV. So, like, you want to see Fraser, like, be lifted up, even though in real life, and I'm just
Starting point is 00:30:25 picking him just cause his name was mentioned. He's currently on my mind because I remember his first season, he came in very like, well, if I were Chief Sue, you know, he had that kind of snotty attitude about it and then immediately left trash in the trash can and got called out or left clothes on the, or something where it was like, you know, it's like a brag, brag, brag, and then get brought right down. But so it's kind of cool to see people like that, that are really spunky kind of get lifted up and then have to sink or swim, you know? Exactly. And it's actually amazing what you can achieve when you are forced to do it. But I just like, I was very surprised.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Watching people get better and better. Well, look at you. You've improved. You've changed so much since you've had the position. I know. And I was genuinely shocked when I got the call to come back for the second season of Down Under because I like, I was just so stressed out the first season. I would wake up at nighttime, like, like sopping wet, just sweating constantly. Uh, and I just thought I was so so boring I do think it was like one of my most boring seasons so yeah when they asked me to come back it was like a very pleasant surprise so I feel for I
Starting point is 00:31:34 feel for people on their first Chaffee season. I think both seasons up Down Under were actually really tremendous we didn't really get to cover much of the first one because when it came out we had like a million Real Housewives shows yeah I remember yeah it was like on Pe Real Housewives shows. Yeah, I remember. It was like on Peacock, but like we can't. I thought both seasons were tremendous. I really hope that Down Under does come back. What do you think are like the biggest pitfalls that a Stu or Chief Stu or I guess maybe in
Starting point is 00:32:03 each position, Chief stew, second stew, third stew, what are the biggest pitfalls that they would encounter on a boat? That you see on below deck you're like oh don't do that oh no this is that's a bad mistake. I think one thing that I see people doing which I'm like oh don't get yourself roped in is when you see them bitching a lot with their stews, or like, you know, like feeding into the bitching with one of their stews about another stew, and they're like letting their stews have these like really long, gossipy conversations. And I'm like, all you're doing is enabling like stirring the pot and the
Starting point is 00:32:39 drama to come out, you know, and it's, I know that it's easy to do, but I'm like, just don't, just don't. It is. And we saw in the last season of Below Deck, whichever one it was, what's the... I guess, regular season of Below Deck, when Fraser turned it and then that chick took... She got the green light to go, to be negative, and it just went so far. And it was against the chef. It was like, he was kind of turning her against the chef. And then so she went for it against the chef. It was like he was kind of turning her against the chef. And then she went for it against the chef and I was like, Oh my God. And then watching that whole thing blow up, you know, Oh God, you just don't want your crew to, your crew to go down that way. So like, you'll see as the season goes on, I mean, they showed in the teaser anyway, that Bri and Ellie get like very anti-each other.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And so I just tried really hard the whole season to kind of stay Dr. Phil the whole way and just be like, you know, you got to hear the sides from it, from a distance and not get too into it. Don't jump in my piss and call it a puddle. Dr. Phil. Exactly. It seemed like, I mean, Ellie and Bri was like, it was going in such a cute direction. Like Ellie was like, you know, she was teaching her, but then like, honestly that scene in
Starting point is 00:33:53 this week when they're like, so who do you like? Uh, do you like Joe? No, do you like Joe? No. Do you like Joe? No. Do you like Joe? No.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Do you like Joe? Cut to five minutes later. I told her that I like him. I told her that I like him. I'm going to be a blood job. Oh my God. I know. That did my head in. And when she's like, you do not go for the man that your supervisor goes for. My sister and I, who's my sister's a chief steward, we paused it and we looked at each other. We're like, that is not a rule. It's not a rule.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Feeling so embarrassing. You're also not the supervisor. Exactly. She's not a rule. Feeling so embarrassing. You're also not the supervisor. She's not the supervisor, exactly. So I don't know. She's, yeah. I don't know what planet she's on. That was so funny.
Starting point is 00:34:34 What are the biggest differences between working for Captain Sandy versus Captain Jason? Oh, I feel like with Captain Jason, you know, we had like a very brother-sisterly kind of relationship, which was really nice, just like so silly all the time. And then I feel like with Sandy, I feel like with Sandy I care so much about her respecting me that I feel like I'm on like my best behavior a lot more because it is the med and it is a higher standard and I just like if I disappointed Sandy it would be like letting someone I don't know it would be
Starting point is 00:35:17 like letting my parents down or something like I just would hate it so much because I started with her and then I went away and flourished and then I've come back and I think I'm just so I was just so eager to show her who I'd become. Right, right. But she actually honestly it was really cute over the season because you know we we're friends outside of the show which is awesome but I thought that it would be very much like a Captain Stu kind of relationship more because it is the med. But over the season we developed this like really funny cute little friendship like even more so along the way and I if I managed to find a moment I'd pop into the bridge and I don't know we'd look at some meme or crack a joke and just sit there giggling with each other and it was not it was nice to have those moments with her.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And I hope that they show those because I feel like a lot of people don't get to see that really silly side of Sandy as much. Yeah, we don't. We, they mainly show like Sandy like looking up, like the waves are high today. God, I love that banana. God, I love that banana. But there is an eye in wind. And I see some coming. It's coming hard, everybody.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's coming. I just have one final question. And apparently, so I've been very curious. There's so much texting that happens on the internet. And they have solved it like the bubbles are on the screen so much. And I was like, how do they actually, like, how do the producers actually know what's on the text? And apparently someone said in one of the after shows that the cameras are so close that they just are able to literally see, is that really how they get all these text conversations or yeah Usually like hey can you can we see your phones we can find out what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:37:14 So the what people don't realize the new because you'll see there are way less ticks from me Because what the new people don't realize they're quite naive and it's like the cameras that they have installed in every room That that they forget about because people just focus on the roaming cameras that there are cameras installed in every room and they have like some serious zoom on them so the second even if you flashed your phone like a quarter of the way to where they could see it they can freeze that and zoom in and see everything that you're saying. That is crazy. Yeah so when it so you'll notice when I'm on my phone in my cabin, I'm very much like, you know, I know like where all the cameras are, so I just hide it.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And not that I'm doing anything private, I just don't want people looking at my phone. Yeah. Yeah. Because that has really been on my mind. And when Ronnie said, no, the cameras just get it, I'm like, but if you're sitting in your bunk like this, how can a camera see it?
Starting point is 00:38:03 But I guess it just takes one frame one moment. Modern technology. I mean, that's how they do it. I guess my question would be more like how many people like just do not care about jerking off on camera, because I feel like everybody just jerks off on camera. Right. I mean, we get at least like two or three a season where you're like, wait a minute, were they just jerking off? And I have to go to Reddit and Reddit is like, did you see them jerking off? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Was it sailing? When was the last jerk? Cause I remember watching someone jerk off, but I can't remember what season. He was lying on his bed with his back to the camera and it was like. I don't remember. It seems to happen like once a week. I feel like there's always a questionable moment. I remember that guy, Emil, was one of the first ones that would just always get caught off. He would just got caught getting jerky.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I think it was season three of below deck. It was a season with Rocky and I don't know if you're, if you had been watching it or not, but like Rocky was one who was like, I'm a mermaid and there was this guy, a meal and yeah, he was totally, of course she's seen her. I mean, I mean, below deck, I mean below deck sailing is like the most jerky office. I'm sure that I saw my first jerk off on sailing, but like, but do people not remember that there's bathrooms? I know. Just like sit on the, wouldn't you like sit on the toilet and do it comfortably?
Starting point is 00:39:20 I feel like people don't understand the camera being that invasive until they see themselves jerking off on TV. I just don't, I feel like they think, okay, either they're not going to put it, they're not going to air it or the camera will turn away if someone's jerking off or the camera, they're going to sleep and they can't see in the dark. I mean, I don't know, but I think- But like, do you think that you could actually get yourself aroused if you know that there's a camera even in the room?
Starting point is 00:39:47 Some people get more. I'm sorry. That's like, they're like, please, like, I'll just do it right there. I mean, not me personally. I mean, I would get aroused maybe like, maybe like with a bag of peanut M&Ms in bed, that would be me jerking off the camera, you know, like, oh, yes, delicious. Yeah, no, I also like, I'm like, I'm not going to jerk off in bed because then you're going to mess up your bed.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I know. Right? Like, do it in the bathroom. All your shorts or something. Yeah. I just don't, there's definitely another option. Yeah, I just don't know. I don't know. It's to each their own. Well, I'm glad we kept this one classy. I know. I know. Exactly. Well, you know, let's either.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Okay, wait. We started with pooping and we're ending with jerking off. So that's why it's fun. Also just like, like, is it, do people just get so horny on these boats? Because it's like sometimes these boat manses, I'm like, like you, like that you could do so much better. You can do so much better. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I know. I think people just get very horny and interested on boats, all boats, because it's like we are doing, at the end of the day, our jobs are not glamorous, awesome jobs. We're just grinding hour after hour, day after day. And you're stuck in this bubble with the same people the whole time. And it's like and you're stuck on in this bubble with the same people the whole time and it's just nice to have this little distraction of like someone walking past and you have a little flirt and Then you know a two becomes a ten and suddenly you're banging in front of the camera And it's just a slippery slope. I mean, I don't know I don't because I've got Scott because but you know, I definitely
Starting point is 00:41:24 Found people very attractive that I usually wouldn't look twice at. Well, you know, it kind of makes me want to join the boat. Yeah, it is fun. It is really fun. I want to go back. I want to walk out with the 10. You are beautiful. Yeah. No, but it's a thing. You can't walk out with them because as soon as your feet hit dry land, the spell is broken. Okay, you're right. I want to walk out on a turn.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, and you look at each other and you're like, oh. Also on Belodac. It's like the lights coming on at one in the morning. It's like, oh yeah, no. Also, Belodac never seems to cast more than one gay male on a season, so the poor gay guy never has anyone to hook up with yeah i wonder why that is i feel like they aren't i feel like that's just because statistically there aren't actually that many gay guys in yawning when i think back to my yawning history
Starting point is 00:42:23 well i can tell you there may be one gay guy on the boat but there are a lot of gay gay blow jobs happening on boats at all times, cause there are a lot of people when meeting options will switch. There are a lot of little officers we don't see named Larry, Larry and Tom that need some head too. And you know, Bruno from below deck, whatever season he went off and he became a gay porn star. And then actually season one had a gay porn star. So like it's there.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I think once word gets out in the gay community that there can be lots of gay sex on a boat. I think you might find those numbers of a good way up. I really hope so. I really hope so. And it'll be hilarious. I really hope so. I would love that.
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