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Episode Date: September 4, 2024This is part two!This week on the season finale of Real Housewives of Dubai, Stanbury and Ayan throw a farewell Queens party. Will Lesa and Ayan’s spat over whether or not the word “brag�...�� was used end their friendship? And what happened to Sara’s maid? Seriously though. To watch this recap on video and listen to all of our bonus episodes, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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So then, Stambury goes riding with her kid, Yasmine, and she's like, Wow, we haven't done this together for a while, have we? I'm excited.
Me too, mother. I was talking to the horse. I'm sorry, but I brought the I brought the child along with me.
child along with me. Do you remember when we would when we would go riding all of us, you and your, is it brothers that you have or sisters? I can't remember. Brothers, mother? Yes, of course, of
course. Yes, mother, we used to have Dusty, Footsie and Floor. Oh, God, do we have to talk about the
nannies now? No, mother, those were the horses. The horses were the nannies, darling. Come on.
I thought those were the horses. The horse is worth an anise, darling, come on.
I love that you named your horse after the floor.
That's just a great idea.
No, mother, it was F-L-E-U-R, not F-L-O-O-R.
Less funny.
Don't quit your day job, Seinfeld.
Sometimes I call Sergio floor,
just because I walk all over him.
Look, this one's for you, Speedy. She's like, not for me, mother. And so, Stambury is telling
us a story. She's like, when Yasmin was little, I used to take her riding every weekend with
the boys, and they used to have riding lessons. And then I would go over a hill and I would
hear, mother, mother, mother, mother, mother, mother. It would fade into the background.
It was like non-music to my ears. I just love that sound. Disappearing children. I brought her here
again today just to watch me ride far, far away. Yasmin, stay right there. Mommy will be right back.
She goes every time.
You know, the funny thing about riding off into the sunset is that,
unfortunately, like Hemingway says,
the sun always rises, so you never really go anywhere.
Suddenly the sun's shining
and the children are still back there.
Anyway, what were you saying, Yasmin?
Mother, look at this horse.
Hemingway, Hemingway, or as I call her,
you're always in the way.
Get out of the way, Yasmin.
I'm trying to ride towards the sunset, thank you.
Sergio has a weird kink for Mariel Hemingway, it's disgusting. Get out of the way, Yasmin. I'm trying to ride towards the sunset. Thank you.
Sergio has a weird kink for Marielle Hemingway. It's disgusting. Okay, Yasmin, what were you saying? Look, Mother, look at this horse. She's so fertile. She's very fertile. She's very
friddle being. Stop following me, Sergio. All right? I don't need you stalking me to add in
Marielle Hemingway compliments. I love her baby.
I love her.
Can we name our son Merrile?
Why would you want to name our son Merrile?
Because I love Merrile so much honey.
Okay, where are we here?
Mother, look at this horse.
This one's got crazy eyes.
Well, stop pointing at Sergio.
It's not nice.
No mother, the horse, the horse.
Can horses have babies? Sergio, it's not nice. No, mother, the horse, the horse. Can horses have babies?
Sergio, stop.
Sergio, take off that saddle.
Actually keep it on, it's kind of nice.
So.
So she's like, my conversation with Yasmin
has really opened my eyes to how she's feeling, LOL.
So now I'm here to show her that I can do things with her,
like ride a horse.
We're really doing do we really have to shoot this scene?
It's my daughter.
Please spend some time with your daughter.
We're just trying to wrap up.
All right.
I don't I don't actually know what a teenager wants to do because I didn't do a lot of things
with my parents, you know, hashtag boarding school trauma.
You may remember.
I know one thing I didn't do with my parents, share problems, because apparently no one
wants to hear about those.
Remember last week, anyone?
Flashback?
No?
Okay, fine.
Well, I'm glad you and Sergio are getting on better now.
It's been very nice.
We had a long talk about the baby thing.
She's like, yes.
And what was your talk about, mother?
She's like, I don't want one, you know?
I said, Sergio, look at Yasmin.
Do you really want another one of those walking around the house?
Mother!
And he said, absolutely not.
Really solved a lot.
Well, what I did was I had Michael record a bunch of those E-Trade baby commercials,
put them on loop and gave it to Sergio.
Now he just cradles that DVD in his arms like it's his own child. Seems to work. So she's like, well,
sounds rational, mother. She's like, thank you. He'd like one, one day in his life,
which is completely fair enough. You know, those days of divorce are going to be lovely for him.
For now. Mother, I just think if you're unsure even at all, if the reason you're doing something
is to make someone else happy, that's so unfair on the child.
Thank you for finally admitting that.
I will now let you be on the source and I'm going to go do something with adults because
I'm not going to do something to make someone else happy.
Thank you for reminding me.
Thank you for remembering the only lesson I've ever given you. Selfishness is the way to go.
Completely. In every relationship.
Mother, if you're bringing a child into the world, disgusting. But yes, but if you're bringing a
child into the world, gross. Yes, but if it weren't for Sergio and you wouldn't want it,
like, that's not right. Do you know what I mean? I'm sorry I wasn't listening because you're a
teenager, I'm an adult, and apparently adults don't listen to teenagers at this time of your life. That's what I've learned from boarding
school. What are you saying? Something about potatoes? So she's like, look, if I'm brutally
honest, Sergio, I don't think we'd have a baby this soon if he wasn't married to a 47 year old and
he didn't feel like time was ticking because you know doctors say time is ticking, you know, doctors say, time is ticking, you know, she's dried up,
she's shriveled, she's old, it's falling out. You know, I mean, you don't put a timer on,
just leave the muffin in the pan as long as you'd like, you know what I mean? Muffins
wouldn't burn if people didn't put so much pressure on them. That's what I'm saying.
Have you ever tried making sourdough and pulling it out of the oven after five minutes? It's
just not going to be good. You've got to give it time. So he needs time as a little sourdough baby, and he will enjoy it. Okay? And it's put an added pressure on us. And so I'm thinking, you know, maybe I might look for a surrogate, as in surrogate husband, I'm really sick of him.
But basically, she's like, yeah, you know, look, my ovaries might be old, but a surrogate's won't be. So I've just told him maybe in a couple of years and it sold everything.
Well, that's a nice pat ending to that storyline. I'm glad she didn't cave and just say yes.
Me too.
It was my greatest fear that she was going to be like, I will do it. I'm just a girl,
a girl standing in a bookshop waiting for Hugh Grant to make everything okay at
the end, you know.
And then she remembered that it's not up to her to cater to his whims that have changed
after marriage. It's up to him to remember that she always said she didn't want other
kids and that he can't change it up now that they're married. So then they go walking
off, they go riding off onto the, onto the, and Stamber is like, look at it,
it's like the British countryside out here.
Mother, no, it's nothing like the British countryside,
it's sand, it's nothing but sand.
Yes, yes, I mean, this is why I don't go horse riding
with you, do you understand sarcasm, you fucking moron?
Did your nanny teach you anything?
Bring Flo back over here and give her a whipping.
Well, well, this is nice something we can do together to
chat outside, we can do a lot together. Okay, so I'll see you
about next year around this time on national Caroline does
something with Yasmin day.
Oh, God, I believe it when I see it, mother.
You're right. We're never going to talk again. Goodbye. Goodbye
person I once named. So then we go to Ayan's, who is FaceTiming her sister. Now, every time these
two get together, Ayan has just won an Oscar. It cracks me up. Literally, every time the
sister comes on screen, Ayan's like, guess what I did? She's like, I am so proud of you.
Our entire village is proud of you. There's a parade happening right behind
me right now. We are so proud of you.
Let me tell them the audience is waiting. You made a tuna salad.
She made a tuna salad.
It's like the whole village is like, yes, you did it.
I feel like I am Mickey Mouse arrived in Dubai. Like, I don't really know what that means.
I think because she's wearing a Mickey Mouse ear dress.
Oh yeah, you're right. She's wearing that red dress with the circles on the shoulders.
She definitely aligned with some designer this year that's really into big shoulders.
That's been her thing. So they talk about her going to Huda makeup or whatever. It's Huda Cosmetics.
Huda, you know? And then Ifrit's telling Ayaan how she's always been the kindest
person,
Ayaan starts crying and talks about the golf trip and everything.
And Ayaan tells us that like she was really hurt when she heard from the
girls. Um, she, she's,
Ayaan feels bad cause she doesn't want to make other people feel the way they
said that they felt when she's around Lisa. So then after the golf trip,
I went and talked to Lisa about it and Lisa was like, um,
you know, like the girls think that about that. And like, you know, um,
Lisa's basically like, just don't bring it up. Don't talk about this.
I don't want to bring up, don't bring it up on camera.
Yeah. So she's kind of telling her what she can talk about and what she can do and, you
know, Ayaan's complaint is like she's so controlling and then we see a lot of clips
of her being very controlling, you know, and telling her, like kind of criticizing her
and criticizing what she can wear and what she can do.
And Ifrah's like, but you know, the most important thing is your Oscar award.
And I'd like to thank all of your teachers.
They have built a statue of you in the center of town.
So that's kind of the ending of her storyline,
but also the hint to the start of her next,
which is the breakup between her friendship
between her and Lisa.
Dun, dun, dun.
Dun, dun, dun.
So now we're seeing, now we're gonna go to this
goodbye Dubai party and we're gonna go to this goodbye Dubai party and we're going to this really
nice house and um, there's all these like really expensive,
like $5 million cars. Um, yeah, great. So.
Do she shit right there.
Like enjoy your very expensive car that you will be afraid to drive anywhere.
Um, so, so then, you know, Lisa's talked about how she's really excited for this and, uh,
but she's also saying to us like how like Ion seems to be really enjoying this
whole new thing with Danbury. And like, she's like, you know what, go whatever.
It's just weird. Go have fun with that one.
Yeah. And, um, they're sitting on two thrones.
So when they come in, everybody has to like kiss their rings.
I don't understand what this has to do with goodbye Dubai. Like where did this element come in?
I don't know. So Lisa's like, I'm super excited for the party, but this setup is weird, you know?
And so she can't everybody starts coming in and you know, making their comments on oh my god,
we have to kiss their rings and all this good stuff. And then we start getting like kind of wrap ups
to storylines, like Sarah says, hello, Nina's there.
And Nina's like, hi there.
Oh my God, what a welcome sight.
You're basically a fried potato.
I love French fries.
Oh my goodness.
I forgot all my fruit cakes at home.
I was gonna let you guys have them
because they're so popular with my fruit cake business
that we've all been talking about.
So she asked about Muktum and Sarah's like,
Muktum right now is going through emotional distress
because well, the UPS people showed up.
And I said UPS stands for U Pout Stick It Murdered. And so, you know, he got very scared. And I was saying UPS stands for you pout, stick it murdered.
And so, you know, he got very scared.
And I was saying, just kidding,
but he was already onto the bed.
So, you know, it's been very difficult for him.
You know, after the phone call with Akeen,
we were arguing by text and I told him it's over,
but he's still trying to communicate and fix things.
So, is this the end completely?
I don't know, because he's still trying.
Sarah, what did I just say about red flags?
Just because someone's trying does not mean
they are deserving of anything.
No, block that number and find a different guy with abs.
There are plenty out there.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm having a trouble jumping on this whole,
let's empower Sarah story.
I just don't believe a thing that Sarah is saying.
I don't believe her. I don't, I think she's just like, Oh,
we still have one more episode. I still might be in a relationship. Everybody.
It feels a little self-serving. And I hate to say this. It feels like,
because what it's, what the, the, what the takeaway is, is like,
I am such an empathetic person and I care about healing people so much that even
when I see red flags,
I ignore them because I just want to heal someone. And when I see someone who's trying
to heal, I want to heal with them. It's like, I know you're trying to advance this idea,
but girl, this guy does not deserve you, does not deserve anyone. Go on.
So then-
At risk. It is actually a real relationship, which it probably is not.
Yeah, I can't. So Nina's like, time will heal the pain, time will heal the pain. And Sarah's like,
oh, but can we not talk about Akeen though? Can we not talk about him?
Please don't talk about Akeen. Your battery is draining, Sarah.
And Sarah's like, well, I told him I need to focus on my kid,
but then he shut the phone in my face.
And Sabat's like, can you believe it, Nina?
Can you?
It's absolutely awful.
God, I wish I could just go over there and sabotage him.
But I'm an alien.
Oh, gosh.
So Nina's like, imagine her son as if she hasn't
already been through enough with the nanny and then he never texts you back
Oh, he texted angry. I was shocked. I was shocked. So then Brooks arrives
Everybody puts these conversations together like oh my god first her son was almost kidnapped and then she won't get a text back from a keen
So Brooks arrives and she has basically like
this like young white twink on her arm.
And Samurai's like, who's the man?
And she goes, oh, and Aion's like, a white man.
And Brooks goes, oh, crowns, I love it.
I hate it, I hate what they're wearing.
Aion put her ashy ass hand out for me to kiss it
and Samurai put her peeling suntan lizard hand.
Oh no.
I'm like, use the child.
Wear his diaper.
She's like, I've got nothing going on with this young man.
We met on Instagram and we've been hanging out ever since.
Stanbury is like, here comes Doogie Howser.
Ha!
A nice young fresh reference. says Sarah Tosses.
I know, I'm not really talking about people like that.
I don't think we're allowed to touch.
Talk, I'm like, hello, a real person would reference someone from big business.
Here comes Seth Green in big business.
I know, let's get another Muriel Hemingway reference in here while we can.
Were there two Hemingway sisters?
There were, right?
Was it Muriel and Mariel or just Mariel?
Muriel and Mariel?
No.
Was it Mariel or Muriel?
I know what you mean though.
There was a blonde one.
So there was a redhead one from Taxi, right?
No, that's Mary Lou Henner.
There's Mary L.
Oh.
Mary L. Hemingway, I'm gonna say sister
because I'm, I swear there's another one.
Margo Hemingway, I knew it.
I knew it.
Okay, so yeah, so Max comes in and he's like 10 years old
and they're like, oh, so who are you, Max?
And he's like, Hello, I'm Max.
I'm from England. I've lived here for a few years now. And okay, that's enough talking.
Please move on. No one cares. So then Sarah's like, Oh my God, who's this guy? Probably
picked him up from some daycare. Am I right? I'm throwing her in jail for abducting a child. So Ayan, so then they're like,
Stamper's like, well, he may be younger than Sergio,
but not nearly as dumb, I'm sure.
And Brooke tells us, well, Max, the Emmy.
We kind of just became friends.
There's absolutely nothing romantic going on
between me and Max.
He's just a guy who knows how to fix a toilet
that's embedded in the ground.
between me and Max, he's just a guy who knows how to fix a toilet that's embedded in the ground.
So Sergio's like, baby, someone's younger than me for once.
We've been looking for somebody young. Can we put our egg in him?
Put our baby in there, money.
Doesn't work that way Sergio.
Come on.
Sergio.
Go away. Continue on.
So, Talene and Raph arrive, and she's like,
Oh my God, I have to kiss your ring.
I will literally kiss your ring for a few drinks.
The only one who's willing to kiss the hand.
So, um, uh, so then Saba turns to Brooks.
They're all sitting at a table and she goes, we have one question to ask you Brooks.
Who's the 12 year old with you?
Sabotage.
Stop it.
They all start laughing.
So then basically there's like royal waves and stuff and
Lisa is arriving and she will not kiss her hands.
And I was like, come on, kiss our hands, it's fun. And she's like, no. She gets just like kind of upset. You
can tell that she's upset. She's not happy with this situation.
But Rich does.
And Stambury is like, Rich does it. Yeah. Rich is just like, isn't this fun, honey?
She's like, no. So Stambury is like, Lisa can't because she can't hide how jealous
she is at the moment. then rich kisses their hands and rich
He hates giving like but I just want to say rich hates conflict
And so his he does something happens where his neck turns red and like his lower jaw turns red because he hates conflict so much
He's always trying to smooth things over with Lisa
So he's so unsettled by the fact that Lisa will not kiss Caroline Stanbury's hand that he goes and kisses it instead
Yeah, he definitely has a house husband who does not want to be their vibe where every time she's like well
Let me tell you what's going on with the girls with she's like
Why are you moving your hands like that I'm playing foosball in the pub, I'm sorry in my head in my head
I'm playing foosball in the pub, I'm sorry, in my head. In my head.
Just wasting his hands.
Yeah, I'm good, I think this marriage is not gonna last.
Calling it, calling it now.
So then the boys, anyway, he's kissing,
he's trying to kiss and make up
and she's not having this at all.
So then the boys cheers and start chatting
and talking about cars,
cause boys love that kind of thing.
And they're like, oh my God, that car's worth $5 million.
Yeah.
It's like we don't have a whole half a town
that can't feed itself.
Weird.
So then Ayan and Stanbury leave their thrones
and join the party.
And Saba's like, oh, look Ayan,
you didn't invent feathers after all.
Saba's really on a tear tonight.
She's like, well, I think I'm finally ready to be funny,
everyone. So Ayaan is like, no, Lisa wore feathers because I would have worn feathers.
And Lisa gives like this real stank eye like, no, the designer made the dress. Please don't
like add kerosene oil to this feather. Okay. So Stanbury. And then they're like, do you
guys have food? It's coming. Lisa's like, because I didn't eat. And they're like, do you guys have food? He goes, it's coming. Lisa's like, cause I didn't eat.
And they're talking about like eating before a party,
et cetera, et cetera.
One of the few times where food,
the lack of food at a party does not turn into
an enormous multi-episode arc.
It's just a brief moment.
So then we see Caroline and Max chatting with a party guest
and Max is like, we're getting to know each other
a bit more, you know, we sn in Netflix that sort of thing. So you like my house, right? Should you ever move?
That's what's going on with me Max everybody just Netflix and shows that's like some children. All right. Well, hey, letha
Why did you put a be the row right on back to his forehead?
It's called branding.
Okay?
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Yeah, it's carbon fiber.
Just like our baby will be Sergio.
Oh, yes, we have baby.
Idiot.
So then, let's see, Talene is talking to Stambury, and she's like, why don't you have a drink, babe?
She's like, my question exactly. Sergio! So just like you, listen, just like you, take it all away
from me. Ha ha ha. I'm not going to kiss that hand, okay?
You can kiss this ass, right?
Am I right?
Raph, I just told her instead of kissing her hand, she can kiss my ass.
Hilarious, babe!
All right, everyone, I have an announcement to make.
My husband is incredibly stupid.
Thank you so much for coming.
Also, apparently I have a daughter and some children and we they like
to ride horses and we have a horse named floor. So that's
very exciting. Michael has started to return my text
messages. He said he's finally gotten over the PTSD of hosting
me for so many weeks. And Sergio has learned that babies do not
come out of your canals. Anyone else?
So I've made a video.
Hold on, let's put it on.
Oh, this is Sergio crying when I put Saran Wrap
over the toilet.
Sorry.
Just let that play out.
It's hilarious, really.
Right.
Oh, wait.
All right.
Here's a video of Sergio getting startled
and jumping back in the air when he sees a cucumber
on the floor.
That's fun.
Oh, and here's one of him jumping, jumping when he sees tinfoil on the kitchen counter.
Also femme.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's the wrong one.
All right, let's play the next one.
Michael, put the next video.
Oh, this is the one.
This is the one where Sergio is chasing around the little laser pointer thing.
He continuously runs into the glass door over and over.
Listen, we chipped the glass door, but it was worth it.
It was worth it.
Here's one of Sergio trying to jump from the couch
to the counter and then missing.
Baby owl.
Owl, baby owl. Owl, baby owl.
Here's a video we put a GoPro around Sergio's neck
and now you can see what he gets up to all day in the yard.
Ow.
All right, well, here's one also that I made with Ion to prove that we are the best friends. Put the song up.
It's like best friends, we're best friends.
No one's ever been a better friend.
I am done.
Thank you.
Thank you for the video.
That was the most cringe video I've ever seen.
And listen, I've seen dick pics from his own time.
All right.
Sarah just goes, it looks like a Tampa dad.
And they says like, you're just trying to rile me up at this point.
You know how weird it's how weird it is that things are progressing
so quickly with Caroline Stamberry.
And it makes me think has Ayaan been telling me everything because
I feel like a boyfriend just got cheated on by his girlfriend. And Stamber is like, well, may everyone have a
good summer. Everyone. So they start talking about their summers and oh, Maldives, come,
oh, we're rich.
I'll be in the Maldives. I'll be there humping a stingray wasted. You don't even want to
see what Rafa's going do to that stingray.
So then Aion goes up to Lisa and she's like,
how do you feel?
And Lisa goes, enjoy.
What do you mean enjoy?
Enjoy what?
Enjoy, it's only the beginning of the ride.
Which ride?
The ride you're on.
So she's doing this thing where she's like
kind of bitchily looking away
and like giving her glassy eyes.
Like, I will not even acknowledge you.
And Aion's like, what? I don't know. But Aion, you know, to be fair is like, what, I will not even acknowledge you. And Ayan's like, what?
But Ayan, to be fair, is like, what?
I can't believe that you're annoyed
about having a best friend party with Caroline Stamberry
as the season finale, what?
She's like, yeah, just don't fall off the ride
because I'll be the first one to laugh
and pour kerosene on you.
So Ayan is like, the moment that Lisa walked in, I could see she
was upset and I was throwing a party with somebody and I'm annoyed that Lisa's acting like this is
exhausting and I'm fucking over it. And so basically we just cut around to little things
at the party and Sarah and Talene are spinning this poor woman who's working at the event,
but she's like
literally a table.
And they're like, oh my God, spin her around.
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
Oh my God, this woman pretended to be a table.
Take her to jail.
So then Ayan is talking to Lisa still and she's like, can I talk to you?
And Lisa's like, why?
She goes, what do you mean why?
Can we talk?
And she's like, why? She goes, what do you mean why? Can we talk? And she's like, no.
Rich, who literally looks like a blood clot,
is like, well, why don't you go
and talk to your best friend then?
Do it, talk to your best friend, we don't want conflict.
Cause she might be our only,
like she might know someone in Cutswold
who knows a 50 to a hundred acre farm
that we could buy.
So Lisa's like, I don't know.
So then Talene's
watching and she's like, Oh my God, something happened. You're upset. You're upset. Ion.
And Ion's like, no, I just had Lisa come talk to me. And she said, no. And so then Rich is all
nervous. He's like, what happened? What happened? And she's like, I'll tell you later, Rich.
So then, yeah, there's just sort of like a little bit of chaos around all of this. So Ion goes up
to Chris, her husband. By the way,
what happened to the part, my favorite part of this entire party, which is when Sergio goes up
to Caroline and Caroline goes, Sergio, take off the bow tie. You look like a waiter. Disgusting.
Oh, you skipped it earlier. I thought you didn't like that one.
No, that was my favorite part of the party. You said instead Sergio, go away.
It's like, okay, I guess I didn't like that bow tie line. I missed it. So then Ion is telling her husband, she's like, I'm trying to talk to her, but she
won't talk to me. And I mean, I guess she's mad at the video with me and Stambury. Like, I guess
I'm good. And I'm surprised he wasn't like, well, you know, sometimes in life, I think it's, oh yeah,
he does. He does. When you're true friends, you go through your ups and your downs,
and the good times get you through the bad times. And I appreciate you coming to me
with this instead of letting it fester. And I just want you to know that any time you need to take a
little mental health day from your work day and just relax a little bit, you've got my support.
You're one of our best employees here. Thanks. Chris, the human resources husband.
Chris just spewing out generic fortune cookie advice just to get his wife to be quiet.
Yeah, well, the good times go through the bad times. Am I right? So then Lisa comes over
because someone said like to told Lisa that Aiyana is upset. So Lisa comes over acting like
nothing was wrong at all and that she wasn't being like very rude to her best friend.
And she's like, hey, Talene said that you're upset.
And I was like, I said, can you talk to me?
And you're like, no.
She goes, well, I'm here now.
I'm here now, girlfriend, best friend.
I'm like, what?
You can't act like you know you were being mean,
which is why you're totally overcompensating now.
She's like, well, I asked you to give me a minute,
why are you making a big deal? And she's like, well, the girls are telling me that when I'm with
you, I'm different than when I'm with them. And she's like, and that's what you wanted to
talk to me about. She's not having this. And she's like, I thought we weren't going to talk about
this. And she was, I can tell, because she doesn't want, she's told her, like, we're not going to
have this discussion on camera or whatever. And so,yaan's like, I can talk to you though, because it's my feelings. And
so she's like, well, she already threw me under the bus in Bali, and here she is again,
trying to throw me under the bus for a second time. But guess what? Guess what, you tit,
I'm a tat.
But by the way, Ayaan threw her under the bus.
You tit, I'm a tat. I like that. I love that. I did love that. Um,
but let's not forget Lisa was being shady with Ion.
Then Ion was being shady with Caroline, but it's not like,
it's not like Lisa was being a perfect angel when Ion quote unquote threw her
under the bus and Ion didn't throw her under the bus.
Ion just passed along a voicemail.
Like the chain of shadiness had already begun, okay?
It's not, you know?
But anyway, so she's like, Lisa's like,
well, yes, Ayan says, I should be able to tell you
and tell you how I feel because it's not okay
that you're feeling that.
And I didn't notice that.
And Lisa goes, yeah, well, I spoke to St Stanbury about you saying that she felt like I was bragging. And she
said she never said that. She never felt like I was bragging about my house and my fam. So just to
pause here, because when the argument went to this place, I need like a moment to parse out everyone was saying least apparently Ion told Lisa that Stanbury told Ion that
Stanbury felt that Lisa was bragging that she was trying to get 50 to a hundred
acres and that Stanbury's parents farmhouse was too small.
And so Lisa is now saying, well,
I spoke to Stanbury and she never accused me of bragging. She says,
I spoke to Stanbury and she never accused me of bragging, she says.
And she's like, well, I didn't say it.
Yeah, she's like, but I didn't say it was in a bad way.
She goes, but you told me that, Ayan.
She goes, no, I didn't.
I said, she was asking me.
She's like, you used the word bragging, Ayan.
So then Ayan tells us,
Stanbury told me I had lunch with Lisa.
And I was like, oh my God, that's so good.
What did you talk about?
And basically that Lisa said, I'm buying your mom's house.
And then flashback to that lunch. And so, I called Lisa and was like, hey, why the fuck do you want
to buy Stamberry's mother's house? Also, this is also a typical Ayaan conversation, because there's
like little misunderstandings that pepper it, you know what I mean? So then Lisa's like, no typical Ayaan conversation because there's like little misunderstandings
that pepper it, you know what I mean? So then Lisa's like, no, Ayaan actually told me, Caroline Stamberry feels like I'm bragging that I'm buying her family's farm and I would never say
that. So I called Stamberry to talk about it. Okay, my God. So what do you think the truth is?
I think that Stamberry talked to Ayaan and she was like, oh, we talked, she said she wanted to buy property and I told her my parents had
a farm and she said, oh, well, I'm looking for a hundred or so acres and Ayaan was like,
oh my God. So even your parents' house is going to be too small? She's like, I mean,
I guess so. Oh, you can't fold my mother's house. Who? Or like you can't, my mother's
house is too small for you or something. They probably gave her some kind of shit, right?
They probably were being shady
Because the way we were being shady earlier in the episode
and I think it's very easy that I on may have
Thought she heard the word bragging or maybe Lisa thought she heard it somewhere along the way
It's possible that someone
Misremembered something and the fact that they are like totally unwilling to open the door to that possibility and that
this fight is going to unfold and they're willing to throw away their friendship rather than admit
that one of them may have misheard something is wild. And it speaks to the fact that it's not
really about this conversation. It's really about that. This friendship was about to crater. And I think that Ayaan does not
like the idea that she is being manipulated. And she doesn't
like the idea that like, if she were away from Lisa, like that
people would like her more. I think she I think it made her
feel insecure that that that when she's with one certain
person, people think she's less fun, or less likable. And so I
think she was I think Ayaan is looking for an exit ramp actually.
Well, yeah, but she's also seeing that Lisa's treating her
so much differently if she's not controllable.
I mean, if she does something that Lisa doesn't like,
Lisa does this icy thing where she's just gonna ice her out
and be a bitch to her.
Well, why would,
that's not the way to keep somebody on your side.
I mean, if you're gonna have like a little soldier,
that's not really the way to do it. Like, you can't treat someone like
crap and then still expect them to stay on your side the whole time. But I still understand
why Lisa would have her feelings hurt by this whole thing, but your friends are going to
be friends with other people. And, you know, she's like, I'm her only friend. Like, she
said multiple times this season, like, no one's there for you but me. No one likes you but
me. She has that kind of controlling thing over her, and I think that that's pretty apparent too. So, nobody likes that.
And certainly, nobody likes being told, like, oh, you're just someone's puppet, you know?
Especially when they feel like they're a breakout star of the show, which...
Pete Slauson Exactly.
Jared Slauson...should be told two different things. Like,
you're the star of this show, but then also this other lady is controlling you. So,
if you're gonna be patient with the lady who's controlling you,
but then she's gonna treat you like shit on top of it,
it's like, bye, I don't need you.
Like you're actually a weight around my neck
because everybody doesn't, you don't like anybody.
So like you're starting arguments with everybody,
or not starting them, but you're arguing with everybody.
And now I'm stuck on this side
that no one wants to hang out with.
Like, fuck off, I wanna have fun.
Let me tell you something. in the history of reality TV
for the past 24, 25 years or so,
maybe you can even go back further into the real world.
It goes to your sidekick theory.
Sidekick theory, nothing creates better, juicier,
and more relatable drama than when a sidekick
yearns for independence from its alpha.
And it's just always the most acrimonious, vicious,
thoroughly intense drama on reality TV.
And we're now, it's happening here.
And look, we saw it with Lauren Conrad and Heidi Montag.
We saw it with that one girl from Sorority Life
and the other girl from Sorority Life.
We see it from time and time again. I wish I had better examples, but I really remember that first season of sorority life and the other girl from sorority life. We've see it from time and time again. I wish I had better examples,
but I really remember that first season of sorority life,
a great show, and it was all about a sidekick
that came out from under her alpha and like-
Well, I mean, just from Housewives.
I mean, even just Housewives, you can do like-
Teddy and Lisa Vanderpump.
Banner Pump and Kyle.
I mean, all the Beverly Hills.
Lisa and Kyle, then Brandi and Kyle,
then Teddy and Lisa, then Teddy and Lisa.
Then Beverly Hills.
It's a lot of banner pumps.
Musical chairs of sidekicks, yearning for independence.
But all the housewives have them.
Joe and Bethany.
That's a big one.
Yes. Whitney and Heather.
There's a lot. There's a ton of them. Yeah, there's too many of them to go through here. We'll
be here all day if we do that. But yeah, it's like the ultimate housewives fight, you know,
when the sidekick comes out and it's like, I'm not your sidekick. And it's like, dun, dun, dun.
Yeah.
And then we have to see how you do without your sidekick, you know what I mean? But
Chanel is the kind, and I think a lot of people are this kind, they go from being one person's sidekick to
another person's sidekick. And, you know, I think she probably has a chance to be more
on equal footing with Stambury, because Stambury just doesn't care. She's like funny enough
on her own that she's like, let's have a joint party, we're both hilarious, you know
what I mean? Who knows? Like, she doesn't seem like she has to compete. But I never really looked at Ayaan
as Lisa's puppet either until everybody started pointing it out this season. I thought they
were friends and they stuck up for each other, but I never really looked at Lisa as controlling
and, you know, like keeping Chanel from all of these other things until they've pointed it out.
Pete Slauson Yeah. I think that's where there was like a little bit of a failure on the editing is that they
should have been layering in that kind of alpha energy and Aion is the sidekick. I think they
tried, it just wasn't there as strongly. And also because the show, when the show first started,
it was established that Aion was the star. So it wasn't like you had someone, you didn't have like a Lauren Conrad who was clearly the star and then a sidekick
and Heidi and then Heidi sort of gets her own awful independence.
You have Aion who seems like she's already the star.
It's we don't really see her as a sidekick,
but she apparently really is a sidekick and now she's going for her independence.
So they started having this fight and now like they're arguing over whether or not Chanel
said that Caroline accused Lisa of bragging. And so now, you know,
Lisa's going wild. She's like, you never told me,
you told me that Ion on my children's life and now I'm going to lose my shit.
Okay. You said I was bragging.
You said she said I was bragging. And by the way,
whenever somebody says on my children's life, they're lying.
Pete Nielsen Right.
Pete Slauson I don't think anybody has ever not been lying on this show when they said that.
I mean, we've seen it multiple times, just this season, they're fucking lying.
And then Ayaan's like, no, she never said you were bragging. And Lisa said, but you said that.
And she's like, no, I never told you that she said that you were bragging. And she goes,
swear on Taj's life. Pete Nielsen And she's like, no, I never told you that she said that you were bragging. And she goes, swear on Taj's life. And she's like, I never said that, Lisa. She's like,
I swear to God on my children's lives, God strike them dead.
I'm like, geez.
Okay, geez.
Can we not?
She's like, for the first time, I don't even know how it is possible, but I believe
Stanbury over Ayaan. I believe she did say I was bragging because she was the one who
brought up the whole family
thing to me. I think Ayaan made it up. She's lying. And I think that the most hurtful part
is that she's going to make, she's going to look me in the face and lie like that.
Oh, please. Well, first of all, you were bragging. Okay. And so was Stambury. Like by my parents'
house, they live in Cotswold. They've got an old place. They could get rid of it. You
know, they've always want more money. You money. Who doesn't want more money? You could do that. She's
like, oh, well, we need a hundred acres. Sorry. We might need 5,000 acres. Maybe we'll need
6,000 or five acres. We're not really sure yet. We need a lot of acres. I mean, give
me a break. You were fucking bragging, but that's part of your job on the show. I don't
think it's the worst thing if she did say you were bragging about it, you know,
right? So Lisa's like, Ion, our friendship will literally never survive this. It's just
let it not survive. You cannot put words in my mouth. And Sam Bray comes over, she goes,
girls, girls. So now they're asking her like, you know, like, did you say this or whatever?
And Ion is they're just losing their minds.
And I on's like, I can't be friends with anybody because I'm always afraid of what
you feel and how you feel about everything.
And Lisa's like, what?
No, look at you.
She goes, I am done.
Don't turn things on me, Lisa.
And Lisa just keeps going, you're a liar.
You're a liar.
Liar, liar over and over.
And then I on's like, oh, yeah.
I don't know. So I'm buried like loud and putting
and her son is there. I kind of feel bad. Like her son is right there.
Like no one wants to see your mom.
How can you not feel bad? I on sobs the most sobby.
Like I've never seen anybody cry. I mean,
I joke that Lisa Barlow cries like that on,
she kind of does on Salt Lake City,
where she's like, look, I'm crying.
Ah!
But Ion's really, it's like, ah!
Ah!
She sounds like an old man down a well.
Just like...
Ah!
She really is like, like the most stereotypical cry.
Ah!
Ah!
You know, like, I'm surprised she doesn't put her hands up to her eyes
and just like rotate them.
Ah! Ah! I'm crying. Ah!
And so Stamber is like, oh my God, I can't believe that one word bragging
that was never even said has caused all this.
Oh, God.
It's just Sergio. Sergio. Come here. I just I've wanted to tell you some
season finale. So I've wanted to tell you something. There's something that I want to
give you finally, to roll this time talking about it all this time discussing it something
I really want to give you. What is it, honey? Nothing. Please go give me a drink. All right,
feel better now.
And take that bow tie off your head. When I said take it off your neck, I didn't mean put it on your head. But it's like a little bow. It's pretty. No, Sergio.
So we see Stenberg and Ayan are now closer than ever. Sergio wants a baby now more than ever. And surrogacy is now legal in Dubai, so never say never. So then I asked, saying she has never been heard like this in her entire life,
which we know is a lie because we've heard about her life and it's been painful. So,
but she's like, I've been very hurt and I can't take this. And so then we cut to Talin and Brooks
and Talin's like, I'm going to set the high, low high everybody. And they're just making
like drink jokes and stuff. And then, then we see Talene's wrap up.
Talene is not giving up on her matchmaking efforts.
She recently co-founded a dating app.
Rafi still has a baby, has baby boy fever and Talene not so much.
And then now everyone's just like, now everyone's, there's people that are up like a, what's
her phrase?
Ayaan is up in like a room and she's changed into like a t-shirt. She's like crying and she's like, ah,
she picks up some like garment and blows her nose into it.
And somebody goes, but that's Valentino.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, and then of course there's like,
you know what I'm tired of?
Everybody pretending your friendship is perfect
because nothing's perfect.
You know what?
It cycles, it goes up and down. That'll be $10,000 for my spiritual journey
ceremony or seminar. So then we see Sarah, Sarah's ending. Sarah's maid is out of her
and McTomb's lives forever. She has been deported. Dun, dun, dun, which I've never felt happier
for a maid because listen, I don't know what
happened with the maid, whether it's true, whether it's like a crazy story. I've seen no evidence of
anything, but I'm just glad she's not rotting in prison. I hope this is true that they deported
her. That could be the best thing that ever happened to that lady. Well, guess what? Akeen
is still trying to make his way back in. They rekindled briefly before Akeen's jealousy reared its head. It's ugly head again. It's like, yeah, of course. So then now Lisa's saying like, you know, I'm
actually not okay. Like the accusations she was making, Rich, the lies she was telling Rich,
I feel like I'm seeing a different side of her tonight. And he's like, his face is like a tomato.
And he's like, well, look, don't jump too far off the deep end here. She says, no, Rich.
And she says, I don't know where we go from here.
I feel betrayed.
I feel hurt.
This is not my friend.
This is not my sister.
This is not the person I have known for so many years.
I don't recognize her anymore.
And she chokes up and she leaves.
I got I don't want to do this anymore.
I don't want to do this.
So she's crying.
We should also mention that the person who's enjoying this the most is Brooks, who at some
point in the middle of this does the Brooks thing where she's sitting in her chair in
the interview and then she leans forward.
She grabs the arms, she leans forward, she goes, it's amazing, they hate each other now,
yeah.
She loves it.
She loves it.
And she kind of helped orchestrate the whole thing, you know.
Yeah.
It's funny.
So she's finally seeing it all come apart.
And then basically this ending is that we don't know where Lisa and Ayaan stand.
Dun, dun, dun.
They're both so hurt.
They're both so hurt.
They can't even take it.
And then still of Ayaan, and she's just in a white t-shirt. This is her stripped-and-remost vulnerable
in only a tee.
Ayaan is still waiting for an apology from Lisa. She has changed Lisa's name on her phone
from hottest Jamaican to the betrayer and heartless. That's very House of Dragons. Lisa
Milan, betrayer and the heartless. Shame, shame, shame.
Pete So, so funny. Okay, everybody, thank you so much for being here. This was a great time.
We'll be, of course, we'll be back, of course, with the reunion.
Pete Yeah.
Pete Hopefully, two part reunion. I don't know how they make it three, but hopefully,
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