Watch What Crappens - #2547 RHOC S18E09 Part Two: Grapes of Wrath

Episode Date: September 6, 2024

This is part 2!The Real Housewives of Orange County are in Sonoma to celebrate equality and torture Shannon with more damning information from trash bag Johnny J’s/Fun Lexi camp. Watch this... recap as a video and get our Secret Lives of Mormon Wives bonus at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watch Your Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Hi everyone, welcome back! This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part 1 was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So then Alexis and Katie, Alexis is really trying to be fun. She's like, Katie, we're going to go find critters. Did you bring any mace? Isn't this fun? Fun Lexi's here. I was not prepared with bear spray.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I got hairspray. Sorry, that joke normally kills on the green. Old white men generally love that joke. I don't know why that joke would go over here. So now Gina and Emily and Emily, uh, they're grabbing there. They're, they're going off to get lunch. So they're coming out. Each cottage has like its own little picket fence and gates. They're all coming out of their gates and everything. And then Gina's like,
Starting point is 00:01:18 Oh my God, it looks like I'm going to, I'm going to Sonoma in the future. And I'm like, did you bring your hoverboard? Which is a back to the future. You know that those are like current, right? Okay. So it's just like wackiness. So Alexis and Tamara get to the lunch for restaurant, the restaurant for lunch. And it's just like small talk. And then Shannon comes in and she looks depressed, you know? And so Emily's like,
Starting point is 00:01:49 you look like you're going to a funeral. Whose funeral are you going to? She's like, oh, well, I guess you didn't see me in the tombstone scene I did. That's a famous gift now, that's fine. Could I actually have some hot water with lemon? And then, so we're of course getting all of their orders because it's housewives, but also so we can judge Shannon.
Starting point is 00:02:11 So they all order and then we get to Shannon and she's like, I'm going to just order one thing because we're on vacation. So I'm going to do a vodka soda cranberry. Thank you. Woohoo vacation. Could you bring a map of the premises with that? Cause we're on vacation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And make sure that the map is made out of alcohol. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know, man. It's like, Tim was here. You know, she's on you about the, and like, you're also with me and I'm sober. So it should be easy to pass on the booze. It's like, she's, I'm going to let Shannon have this cocktail today.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I think she's earned it for this episode. Actually is think so highly of herself that she thinks that sitting there, listening to Gina for the next few hours is going to be a situation where you're going to need less alcohol. No. Yeah. Meanwhile, Heather's in town with some of the others, and she's like, oh, I see an espresso martini. Hi, everybody. We are gonna do a wine dosage with the other group,
Starting point is 00:03:14 and Jenna's gonna be joining us shortly, and I'm sending you, all you gals, to the spa, and then we're gonna meet for dinner. Okay, so have fun rancho relaxing while we have one of those together later Okay, bye guys fun Heather to bro here So then back to Tamra Tamra's like oh Alexis there's stories everywhere from your vent last night you open social media. You guys are breaking the internet right now
Starting point is 00:03:42 Literally did not even come close to chipping the internet. Like I don't think anyone paid attention to this. Well, and you only follow Housewives accounts, you know? So then we see headlines flashing across the screen. Real Housewives of Orange County's Alexis Bellino and John Jansen address Shannon drama as they make red carpet debut. Red carpet debut? The fuck was this red carpet for? The Toxic Avenger. Yeah. So Shannon's like,
Starting point is 00:04:10 well, I mean in my wildest dreams, did I ever think he would be doing interviews on a red carpet? I know. I mean like this is what I don't get. He sounds like he's like very angry and she's going around and talking about him. But it's like when people break up, you talk about people and I feel bad about it but it's something that we do. Well John said that you ruined ruined my life by making it so public and now he is on Oscar party red carpets. So. Oh so it was an Oscar party red carpets. So. Oh, so it was an Oscar party red carpet. It's Oscar party. What, what, can you think, can you imagine Ronnie,
Starting point is 00:04:50 Oscar weekend, we were together, I was in Austin with you. We watched the Oscars together in your place. To think. We sure did. That same night, Alexis and John were making their red carpet debut. Wow, what a life. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I mean, just what we didn't know then. Am I right? We didn't know while we watched that terrible broadcast. Well, Mount Lady made that song about fire for the Flamin' Hot Cheetos movie. The movie about Flamin' Hot Cheetos and Diane Warren wrote a song and Becky G came out and sang it about the Flamin' Hot Cheetos. And then apparently, I think we talked about this, Diane Warren was so upset about losing the Oscar that she had a tantrum in between the commercial breaks
Starting point is 00:05:32 over it, over her Flamin' Hot Cheetos song. Okay, so they're still talking about John and start gossiping about John and Gina's like, oh, you know, like they're referring to it as their red carpet debut. As if they've got a whole tour of red carpets coming up. I mean, come on, come on. I mean, I feel bad seeing that, but come on. And I was like, I really loved you know today. And so Katie's like, but how does he have money? Cause he sold his business or and Gina's like, oh, like I think he owns like a small stake and Shannon goes, oh, like I think he owns like a small stake.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And Shannon goes, oh, he owned a percentage of one of the divisions. So he has some money. So maybe you're looking for it in all the wrong places. Like from me, from me, am I just a crack in a couch cushion? No. I mean, if you want to look for the petty change that you actually own,
Starting point is 00:06:24 maybe that's where you should be looking. So. Yeah. Well, I guess so. He, he did sell his stake in division, which is, you know, people don't realize you would think that those are just universal things that are not owned by people, but you know, addition, subtraction, multiplication, they're all owned and, oh, I guess he has no money. He only owns one of the most important features of math. But apparently there's no money in that, so he comes to me. I'm apparently money-backed.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I mean, do I have as much money as the division symbol? No, but apparently I do. So good luck with you, John Jansen. So they ask her how it's going and she's like, well, I have a deadline today. I'm going to say this in a whisper voice. I have a deadline today, so I'm like, Tee-dee! Please stop. We're in quiet mode right now. Your deadline. Tee Tee! Please stop, we're in mode right now.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Your deadline is Tee Tee! Hi, this is Katie and I refuse to let anyone speak more quietly than me so I'm gonna say to respond. Mm-hmm. To respond. Okay, well it, I have a deadline today and I have a, um... A death line today and I'm supposed to...
Starting point is 00:07:28 What are you doing? What are you doing? What's wrong with you? Oh my gosh, she's awful. It's a quiet moment. Who set off the fireworks? Am I right? Okay, Shannon, go ahead. Okay, I already countered...
Starting point is 00:07:41 Oh god, now you're yelling. Can we just all stop yelling? I'm sorry. I already countered and I offered him a lot of money and I'm not going to go up anymore. Wait, hold on, Shannon. Shannon, please stop. Can you bring me some cotton balls to put in my ears? I mean, seriously, it's like being at a death metal concert. Thank you. Can I ask what it was? Oh, God. Now that's loud and it smells like tacos. Half. Half. About half. You offered him half and half? Well, no wonder he's mad. He asked for money. You gave him creamer. Well, yeah, I offered him half. She goes, Oh my God, that's a lot of money. Yeah, it really is. And Katie's like, yeah, that's a lot of money. Yeah, it really is.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And Katie's like, yeah, that's a really, really big number. And I'm referring to the decibels that you just used to get a non-sentence across, Gina, thank you. Oh my God, I love the decibels. Did you know that Mindy Kaling was in that group at Dartmouth? It's an acapella group. So Emily's like
Starting point is 00:08:50 okay ever's like like shatin that's one thing you don't like that's one more thing you have to deal with i mean first you buy them Ferragamo shoes stop bringing that up Tamra now this that's awful. This must be such a horrible day for you to have to deal with this. I'm so glad that I made a joke and set Alexis off on you even more
Starting point is 00:09:14 after mentioning the Ferragamo shoes comment. Whoops. I just, I feel like it's extortion or something, you know? I mean, what's important to John, I can be loud again because I'm speaking to the audience, not under Katie's draconian no yelling rules. What's important to John is, you know, look like a good guy. This is step one, try to make Shannon look bad. I'm emphasizing this by putting my two hands in front of me and then bringing them close to my
Starting point is 00:09:44 chest. Make Shannon look bad. And he's really taking drastic steps. So then we cut back to Tamara and Alexis and Alexis is like, I get that Shannon feels uncomfortable. I mean, but thank you for not excluding me from this event because this is really near and dear to my heart because my kids know that their mother
Starting point is 00:10:01 is gonna fight for them. And if it means taking the face right off of Shannon, returning that and getting a new Beamer, I'm going to do it. I will not have my three series judged by Heather Dubrow ever again. What were we talking about? You know what? They should have a freedom to live my children, to live and do whatever they want. Shannon on the other hand, absolutely not. So Heather's like, just want to say whatever we have to say
Starting point is 00:10:27 to put it to rest and move forward. But I don't think it's gonna happen. So we have to figure this out as a group. That's all there is to say about it. So Heather, Tamara and Alexis are in the van and Tamara's like, sir, this is Snowma, huh? We could watch here, huh? It turns out they were 0.3 miles away.
Starting point is 00:10:47 So they arrived at Equality Vines, so it turns out this organization not only is for equality in families, but also for vines, which is good. And they're greeted by the Family Equality President and CEO, James, and Heather's like, so we just read the email that Family Equality put out about Florida.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Well, by reading it, I had one of my maids call up and I said, please dictate this to me. Thank you. Could you please explain it for these stupid people here? Okay, explain it for them. And they're like, well, we fought the don't say gay thing and now we're allowed to say gay. And she's like, wow, gay, just did it.
Starting point is 00:11:26 What a rebel. I feel great. I feel great. Wow. Alfredo, you've done great work with this organization. We're so happy for everything that you and author Alfredo have done. And this is exactly why we support family equality because they're making real change in our country for our families.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So then the equality wines founder, Jim, is their waiter. So he gives them some sparkling wine and Heather's like, oh my God, you guys, look, this is it. It's the gems line. Cheers to gems. Who's gems? Thank you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Well, Family Equality asked me to do a champagne collaboration with them. And I said, well, I would never put my name on anything that you pours are associated with in terms of champagne, but I'll just create my own champagne. All the proceeds are going to Family Equality, so it's just as good. You're even branding the Family Equality event.
Starting point is 00:12:20 This is HD champagne. This champagne is made for Mark Cuban. This is HD champagne. This champagne is made for Mark Cuban. This is HD champagne. If you buy more champagne, you can also get face masks, important to use during a pandemic, and they're only 100 times up marked. So we came up with four different sparkling wines. This one you throw at the chef, this one at the maid,
Starting point is 00:12:43 this one at the doorman if he ever comes inside, and this one's a wild card, just throw it at anyone. Listen, it's extremely important to have a quality wine so that when you have people who are poorer than you, they can all have the same wine while you have better stuff. Heh heh heh heh. Which reminds me, someone give Richard Mark some cava. Heh heh heh.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So they're serving the wine and Manvier, Jem is like, put your nose in it. Take a gentle smell of the wine. It's like, mm, mm, gems, mm, duh, delicious. I love my gems. Forced smile. So then, Lexa goes, did you even clear your palate for any of these? Is this something Terry put in your mouth?
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yes, I definitely drank this very affordable sparkling champagne, and I love it so much. Terry didn't put anything in my mouth. I have a dentist. And Tamara's like, I don't put anything in my mouth that I don't have to anymore. Cut to Sandy. I'll tell you what goes in my mouth. A free Costco sample. If you know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And then her boyfriend comes skateboarding in. Sure do. Honey, you shaved the, you shaved straight up the middle of your nose again. You're missing half your eyebrows on each side. So sexy. Get over here. I love this hot Lister shirt. So Jen comes and then I- Hi Jen. How's your life, stupid? We all know it's terrible. Go ahead and cry. And she's like, guys, guys, I didn't really get any money. It didn't go how I wanted.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Guys, guess what? Divorce sucks. Well, I don't. Get it? I ain't sucking any stick. I'm still married to it, by the way. Last time Will and I were in a courthouse, it was this courthouse, and we adopted our son,
Starting point is 00:14:37 and it was the most amazing day of our lives. We were so united. We were so bonded. And now Will won't even look at me or the giant YSL on my shirt. It's just so very, very vastly different now. I mean, Jen, I love you. But I'm presuming that this was before you started
Starting point is 00:14:51 fucking a guy in the gym parking lot, okay? She was like, I just don't understand. Will's just so mad. I just don't get it. It doesn't make any sense to me. I thought there'd be a way. Isn't that what they say about Will's? Oh God. So then they're like, so what is he going to give you? Zero? And she goes, well, I mean, zero, but it's temporary and it's $6,000. And Alexis is like, with five
Starting point is 00:15:18 kids? Oh my God. And Tamara's like, $6,000 isn't a lot of money with five kids, but she's living with Ryan, so I feel like she's gonna rely on that and not get a job. Yep, that sounds about right. That's a way to go, connecting those dots. So Jen's like, by the way, so how are you guys doing? You know, I haven't seen you in a minute, Alexis. Yeah, all you have to do is open up Instagram,
Starting point is 00:15:42 she's all over it, she's breaking the internet. I don't know why I think it's so funny that Tamara is so impressed that Alexis is on Instagram. I think she sees Alexis as like her project. I think Tamara is like very proud because the Tamara prior to the season was like, I always said we should bring Alexis back onto the show. And then now she's back and now she's breaking the internet. So I think Tamra's like, look at me. It's kind of like her kingmaker moment where she's, you know, one minute she's fired, but then not only is she back, but Vicki's not back. It's just her and she gets to bring back whoever she wants.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So they learned their lesson on this one. You know when like a horse wins like the Belmont steaks or something, it's like always like the owner who's like out there holding up a trophy and having milk poured on his head or something, you know? It's like, meanwhile, the jockey did all the work, but like, you know, Tamra's like, the horse is just waiting to like have his moment where he gets to hold kids construction paper together in the future. Tamra's basically like, look, I, I found this horse and I bought it and I raised it to be a champion. Yeah. It's an attack course.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I taught this horse how to rip Shannon a new asshole and look at it go. So then she was like, wow, she's on Instagram, everybody. And that happened and Shannon was at R&D Cafe. Oh, then I heard, guys listen to this. After Alexis broke the internet, Shannon went to the R&D cafe by herself with a notebook and her drink and eventually she had a big reaction.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And then we see Tamara reading a headline to Shannon saying, Shannon, look at this headline. She Ubered to the mall and then got a cocktail by herself. And Shannon's like, oh my God, you've gotta be kidding me. Who would do such a thing? I ordered, it's coming back to me, I ordered a Pellegrino cranberry, a Pellegrino, well, what I did was I said, God, God, this is a, this, it smells like vodka in here, and I'll have a Pellegrino cranberry. And maybe they must've thought that was actually a full order of a, but I ordered a Pellegrino. I definitely ordered a Pellegrino. I believe, you know what it was?
Starting point is 00:17:51 It was, it was a dirty martini. Now to think about it. You're making it sound like I just went to a cheesecake factory and drank straight from the bottle. I ordered Pellegrino and cranberry to have with my shots. Listen, she, at least she Ubered there. So. I know, what do you guys want from her?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Jesus Christ. And you know where they got that information from? Fucking Tamara. Tamara was following you or some shit. It's like Tamara's little drone following your Uber around, you know? Why did they not supply us with a photo?
Starting point is 00:18:20 They should have given us the photo. Have you seen the photo? Should we look up the photo? No. Okay. That happened and then Shannon, okay, what seen the photo? Should we look up the photo? No. Okay. That happened. And then Shannon, okay, what did she say? She Ubered to the mall and got a cocktail by herself.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Let's see if that comes up in the Google. That's amazing. I'm sorry. I support it. She's like, well, I could go to a discreet bar and have a cocktail in peace, but I'm gonna go to Javier's. I'm sorry, ma'am, you've been banned from Javier's.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Well, I will go to whatever R&D cafe is and I will have a beverage of undetectable strength. Nothing's coming up in Google. Let's see. Shannon's doing her best to move forward. Yeah, I can't find the picture, unfortunately. But Shannon's, you know, of course, taking it from every side. So then Tamara's like, yeah, the picture of Shannon we saw on Instagram with Shannon at the bar sitting there with a little short glass by herself, like it's no big deal. Look, if she drank at home, you'd call her an alcoholic. If she drove there, you'd call her
Starting point is 00:19:18 a drunk driver. She's doing the responsible thing. She's drinking around other people after Ubering there. What the fuck do you want from the lady? Yeah. She followed Vicky's advice. Just Uber. You can be the alcohol, just Uber. Yeah, exactly. And how does it work?
Starting point is 00:19:36 I mean, that is the problem, right? It's not that you're drinking. It's like everyone's in charge of their own drinking and sobriety. It's the getting behind the wheel thing that's terrible. And she didn't do that. So I say lessons are being learned here. Well, obviously, well, in this case, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I mean, I think obviously if you have like a job and you lose your job because you're drinking too much, you're not getting your deadlines, that's bad too. But, um, well, I mean, I'm not going to, I think I'm a specifying this in the case of Shannon, I think that like, yes, as long as she takes an Uber and her liver's okay, then yes, go thrive. So now we go back, now we go to the spa
Starting point is 00:20:13 and this is very rustic spa and the women who didn't go into town are gonna have their spa day and so. Oh, wow. Hello, person. I would like a wellness tea, much like the one I enjoyed at R&D Cafe, right? A wellness tea.
Starting point is 00:20:29 That's what it was. And please have that poured by Dr. Belvedere. That would be great. Shrieks of the China never mattered before. No one cared. And Emily's like, what about this one, the Elevate? Do you have that in taco form? Oh, well, you know what? The Elevate is Do you have that in taco form?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh, well, you know what? The Elevate is really great. It's more of like a mood. It's a, it's a mood elevator. Yeah. Yeah. I think we all understood that it's called Elevate. So yeah. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappence commercial. Welcome to the Offensive Line. You guys on this podcast, we're going to make some picks, talk some sh**, and hopefully make you some money in the process. I'm your host, Annie Agar. So here's how this show's going to work, okay? We're going to run through the weekly slate of NFL and college football matchups, breaking them down into very serious categories like no offense.
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Starting point is 00:22:50 Hysterical. Follow Hysterical on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of Hysterical early and ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus. So Gina's like, oh my God, I need something to help me because I'm fucked up. I feel so bad, literally. Her stomach's like, So she's like, Oh my God, so many problems in my torso today. Like I literally feel bad. So Shannon's like, Okay, well, so they're all deciding what they're going to do for
Starting point is 00:23:24 their treatments and everything. And then a lady comes in, they're sort of sitting in this room in robes and the lady comes in named Jess, who is a perfumer. And she's like, off, get the fuck out of here. I can't with this. Who decided this was a good idea. This is not the first time we've seen this on her. Hi, I'm Jen. I'm a perfumer. I'm Jess. I'm a perfumer. I don't want that. I want to relax. I just ordered some tea. Now I have to smell this nonsense. And you're going to get little drips droplets of it up in my nose. And I to relax. I just ordered some tea. Now I have to smell this nonsense. And then you're going to get little drips, droplets of it up in my nose. And I'm going to smell old lady all day.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Get that shit out of here. I'm trying to relax Jess. So Jess is like, so everyone tell me your favorite scent and tell me why. Tacos. It's like, oh yeah. Well you can do tacos,
Starting point is 00:24:03 but you have to say why you like them. Cause they're meaty and juicy. It's like the perfect scent. It's like, oh yeah, well, you can do tacos, but you have to say why you like them. Because they're meaty and juicy, it's like the perfect sand, it's like carnitas. Okay, um, let's see, let me see if I can work with this. Does it bring you any childhood pleasures? Makes me think of my mom! Okay. I do like the smell of tacos. You can't go wrong with meat and cheese.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Now can we do tacos that have to be microwaved because there's no one to make them warm for you? Okay, I'm just going to ignore this lady in the corner who's trying to be funny. Let's think about flowers. So everyone smell this and the flower scent of the valley is going to allow you to connect to the place that we are. Okay. Oh, does anyone know why this lady is trying to drink my little perfume stick? Oh yeah, that's just Shannon. She's just having a moment. Well, I'm not driving. So as you smell, actually take that scent strip into your nose and close your eyes and go somewhere. Okay? Just go there. Gina, where are you?
Starting point is 00:25:02 I'm in a luxurious studio apartment with 19 children. We're all playing a video game and sharing a tortilla. God, it's my happy place. And now we're trying to look out the window, but there's a giant shoelace in the way. She's in a boot. You have to understand, she's in a boot. Emily, where are you?
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'm in the boot too, cause I really like Gina, but I brought tacos and she's like, hey, the boot smells now, come on Emily. And Katie, where are you? I'm sorry, you're gonna have to stop yelling if you want me to answer you. Are we in a rage room? Because all I hear are the sounds of things crashing. Wow, I feel like I'm in the 90s listening to Screamo.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And then I was like, this hurts my throat. God, Emily, Jesus. So, Gina's like, oh my God, Shannon's over here just guzzling down this Kool-Aid. I mean, she loves this. I mean, that bitch had crystals in her walls. And then we see flashbacks to Shannon when she first came on going,
Starting point is 00:26:05 well, we had our Feng Shui lady come because before they poured the foundation, I put some crystals in there. Do you remember when Shannon was like super fancy? So good. It's like, hello, welcome to Shannon Manor. I've had crystals put in my foundation. Hmm?
Starting point is 00:26:21 We have a chandelier on a switch that raises up and down. And she was like, I went to a guy in LA till he put jewels inside my teeth. We have a chandelier on a switch that raises up and down. And she was like, I went to a guy in LA till he put jewels inside my teeth. And Gina was like, but you know what, I had a spiritual extraction, so I guess I'm really not one to talk. And then we show that footage of that ridiculous scene that was actually a story arc, which is what's so sad about it. So it was like, I'm going to avoid that part because it was stupid enough when it actually happened
Starting point is 00:26:48 So guys, I don't think I told any of you guys this but I got a new tool long. We got another toodle We named a clover. So now we got meatball for my people and clover for trot for traps people. Okay, so Basically clover gets really nice treats, but then meatball doesn't get anything because I need to think about my dog first. I think, I think that meatball actually gets the treats and clover doesn't get the treats. If you think about it that way,
Starting point is 00:27:18 there's his meatball or is it because meatball is Italian. She's got clover. Oh, so they both are representing each other's people through their own dogs. Okay. Well, that's kind of like the gift of the Magi a little bit. So, so she's like, you know what, you know what, the way he moved, I think he's like trying to fill up his void now and like this like sadness and, um, and Katie says it's like putting out a bandaid on situation and Gina's like right now Which is like naturally at his house a lot because I've got construction on going on
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's like it's a real big trigger for Travis and I didn't even think about it Oh, you mean cuz like you kicked him out and now you're making all these changes Yeah, it's kind of like a racing him. I don't even think he'd be bothered by me racing him I mean just because I cut him out I've been erased everybody. Timber, you're not even in the scene. Sorry, I heard my cue. You know, I worry that this is pulling my family apart.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I'm like a little concerned that me kicking out half of the family is gonna pull the family apart. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Gina making magnificent deductions here. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. I love that also. Gina just cracks me up the way that her logic works.
Starting point is 00:28:32 She's like, yeah. So, I moved away from Travis and he got so sad that he got another dog and now I just come over all the time to stay there while my house is getting done. It's triggering. I just can't imagine why. And when he says, what are you doing at the house? And I say, you know, just removing all of your smells and you know, hey, 3F, you remember how we had that doorway where we would measure every time the kids grew?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah, I had that taken down and I had a slider put in. Well, actually I cried. I only took your kid's names off the doorway. My kids still have hype memories. Yours don't though. So Larry, I feel so bad. I feel so bad that after Travis moved out, I finally decided to make the place better
Starting point is 00:29:14 now that he's gone. God, I feel bad that he feels bad about that. So- I mean, what are you supposed to apologize to a ghost after you get it exercised? So then Shannon gets a phone call. It's her lawyer. Because today is the deadline for her to pay that money. I don't know if it was mentioned or not yet. So she gets up and leaves and Gina just still prattling on, you know, I think that also like part of this goal is like ultimately to live together again, but like without Travis and his family, but like together
Starting point is 00:29:46 and like, you know, like now investing all into your home. Like, so what does that look like? Like, and now he has like anger about it. I just feel bad. Well, yeah, because you're like, I'm just moving for a second, but, or, you know, we're just going to live apart for a second, but then we're going to live together again. And then you make it so that there's not room for you all to live together again. Gina. Like, what do you think? And by the way, I totally stand by Gina making this decision
Starting point is 00:30:11 and doing what's best for her kids. I mean, we make jokes, but I do actually support this decision, but it's just Gina's, I feel like every time Gina makes a decision, she just acts like, what, I don't understand why people are upset. Like, yes you do, you know, don't play dumb.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, I mean, I think, I think though, again, like I said earlier this season, we need to have a better context about why this is all happening. Because if you didn't follow the headlines, you would just be like, so she's making money and she doesn't have enough money to spend on all the kids. So she only wants to spend it on her kids.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It just, it just, it just- You really do have to read between the lines on this one and be like, okay, well, how does this make sense? Does this make sense? Knowing that Travis is in a cut, he's in a alimony battle or a money battle with his ex has gotten really ugly and he's living with Gina now. And so now their money is probably tied up together. And so she doesn't want her housewives money tied up with his money for his alimony so that his wife has to pay less child support. I mean, all that stuff kind of makes sense,
Starting point is 00:31:09 but you really do have to put a lot of, a lot of justice. If you just believe the show, it would be, she would look like a total villain. Yeah. So, which is basically just- Is that just really funny? Is that just really funny that she's like,
Starting point is 00:31:24 God, I can't believe that Travis is upset that I kicked him out of the house when he wants to stay. So she goes, I drove past the tent that Travis is staying in the other day and he looks so sad. And I was like, who doesn't like camping? Am I right? She goes, you know, I know. Cause Emily goes, so you guys didn't think about that at all? No. You would be perfectly content living separately the rest of your lives.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Well, I don't know about that. I just know that this step feels good. But this is why I have gas. Wah, and I'm gonna have diarrhea. Oh, Shannon's back. Shannon arrives in, one upping the gas with diarrhea. Oh, how was your phone call? Did you have some spoiled fish?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Is that why you have gastrointestinal malaise? How was your phone call? Do you have anything that you can tell me right now that I can use against you in five minutes to make you look stupid and cry on national TV? Come on, Shannon, I'm here for you. How was your phone call? Did you take it at a public cafe with a drink
Starting point is 00:32:23 that you said it was a mocktail but's clearly a cocktail? Oh my god, are you crying? And Shannon's like, he didn't accept my offer. And I said, I'm not going to go up another penny. So he said, well, I'm going to send a letter to say I'm authorized to accept service on your behalf. He said, well, I'm going to send a letter to say I'm authorized to accept service on your behalf. And then he goes, you did cry. I was like, yeah, no shit. Sherlock is Shannon Bador. She sees a grasshopper. She starts to cry. And Gina's like, that was a very generous offer. And she's like, Shannon, I don't want you to go to court though. She's like, well, what else would I do? Just pay him the money, Shannon. Just pay him the money.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I just want to say, by the way, I'm not giving this legal advice to my parents. Sue the motherfuckers at FedEx. Okay. So Emily is like, she's like, well, you just can't handle this right. But he's just, it's the principle. It's the principle. And Emily's like, well, I understand this principle. Here's the thing I, you know, I don't know that Shannon really is going about this the right way to be honest, because if he's saying that he gave her this money
Starting point is 00:33:27 for a facelift and then it's proven that she got a facelift and she's like, fuck that guy, then why wouldn't she be like, I can pay for my own facelift, here's your money back. And then why doesn't she just pay him and then turn around and sue him and show receipts for everything they paid for in their relationship and say that was a loan
Starting point is 00:33:42 that he said he was gonna pay me when, I mean, I guess it's spending more money on legal. Because you already spent so much on him. It's, it's, it's the lack of, it's just so ungracious. It's so, it's so, it's just so petty and so rude and it's, it's mean. And, and on top of that, like for her, maybe, I don't know what her financials are, but 75,000 at one time. It's a lot of money may have been easier at one time and maybe not easy for her now, just especially now that she has legal bills, uh, just as he wasn't able to afford his nice shoes at one time. And now he can, so people's money changes and he's just being a dick.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Well, and I think it's also that she has also just paid all this money in that other lawsuit to settle that other lawsuit, which was another Bolino production. So because it, because I think she doesn't like how much, how much money am I going to pay this industry, this Bolino industry? And by the way, I know it's, it's John Jansen and not Alexis technically suing. It's just a little bit crazy of a coincidence that it's both, you know? I would imagine as Shannon that you're like, okay, well, I guess I'm gonna, you know, how often do you pay them?
Starting point is 00:34:54 They just keep coming with a baseball bat. We don't get a sense that Alexis is sitting there behind closed doors saying, you know what, Johnny, I think you should probably just leave it. Let's just move on. Let's just have our life. She's like, go get him, Johnny, do it. I think just leave it. Let's just move on. Let's just have our life. She was like, go get him, Johnny, do it. I think you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 You gotta fight for what's yours. I will fight for my man. Right. So anyway. Yeah, that was just for conversation sake, cause you know, fuck that guy, obviously. So she was like, yeah, it's a lot of money. It's a big chunk.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I mean, it feels very vindictive. Why do you want to hurt somebody so badly when you're so happy in your relationship? So, Gene was like, yeah, it's a lot of money, it's a big chunk. I mean, it feels very vindictive. Why do you want to hurt somebody so badly when you're so happy in your relationship? Just take the check and go live your life. Yeah, because listen, I think on his part, getting half of $75,000, that's pretty good too. So, you know, for someone who doesn't want to be someone's entertainment father, he's sure making an effort to go to
Starting point is 00:35:45 red carpets and sue somebody to keep his new girlfriend on TV. Sly by. He wants his reputation cleared, but what needs to be cleared? That's what I would like to know. What is it? Well, that she said that she paid for everything. His big thing is that she said that he paid for everything and they haven't even mentioned that he's so drunk on a golf course. But that's the only thing she covered for him for. She actually, she didn't even put forth that.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So if his reputation has been sullied by the idea that he's cheap or poor and can't afford anything, how is extorting $75,000 from someone away to dissuade people from thinking that you don't have money and you need to have, get your money from other people. It doesn't make any sense. Exactly. I don't want people thinking that I'm living off of Shannon. So I'm going to get $75,000 to live off of Shannon. Yes. That's a much better way to put it. Fucking kill ass. I hate this fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:36:45 So then we go back to Equality Vines and Tam is like, what time is dinner? And Heather's like, don't worry, I don't have a seating chart for tonight. And Alexis was like, just keep me at one end of the table away from her, because I just really don't want any drama tonight. Oh, I'm sorry. What I meant was I'll be the only one sitting and you guys will
Starting point is 00:37:10 just have to stand against the back wall. That's why there's no chart. And she's like, this whole weekend is about inclusivity. I mean, you're all the reason I included Katie. And I pulled her aside at the trader's party and I said, listen poor person in the spirit of inclusion. And Tamara cracks up, Tamara cracks up. Joseph, this was hilarious. Tamara is like, so that's, oh, that's why I invited her in the spirit of inclusion.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Why is that bad? Why is that a bad thing to say? I'm being inclusive. I'm a person of the earth. So Alexis is like, well, Katie said that you tried to, she tried to apologize and you just stopped her. And Alexis is like, well, Katie said that you tried to, she tried to apologize and you just stopped her. And she's like, well, I was because she was doing that, but then, and if, if what, what poor, poor dollar dollar, who uses cash anymore? I don't even know what cash looks like.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Are there so presidents on it? Yeah, but you know, you should get to know her because you've never gotten to know her, you know? Just, oh, well, there is no we in this. And why wasn't I given the grace of getting to know me? And Tamra was like, well, the more I get to know Katie, the more I feel like a Geno is behind her. So let's all be mad at Geno.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Can we do this already? Shouldn't be so hard. If Geno wasn't behind it, who brought up this original paparazzi thing? Wasn't this a storyline last year? Originally, yes, but Katie brought it up off camera. Tamara, I think, it wasn't Tamara undermining Heather last year, wasn't the whole thing that Tamara's like, she was spilling secrets out of revolt.
Starting point is 00:38:38 That's what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure it was. And I know a lot of times on this show, it's just like automatically blame Tamara, because it usually is Tamara. So it's like a, it's a percentages game. But I think it was originally brought up by Tamara as an accusation against Heather.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So ultimately this is, you can blame Gina all you want, but this is something that you started. It was Tamara all along. Somewhere else. Yeah. That's going to be a new show. It was Agatha all along. Or was it these? Originally it was somewhere else. Yeah. Yes. Oh, that's going to be a new show. It was Agatha all along. Can't wait.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Agatha. Yeah. It was Agatha all along. Heather's like, well, I don't know if that's true or if that's not true. All I know is that they're both poor and I don't care for either one of them. But the bottom line is this, I can be polite. I can actually have fun. I am an actress after all. Maybe you guys heard of my one-woman version of Annie gets your gun in the attic of Syracuse,
Starting point is 00:39:30 but I'm pretty good at putting on a face, alright? And I can be in group settings. That doesn't mean we have to be our best friends. I got through all of last year with Taylor Armstrong. Don't forget. And also let's not forget where Taylor Armstrong is now. Hmm, having lunch with Noella somewhere. Hmm, Cece's pizza have a line today. It's true, Katie, you better make amends with Heather because otherwise you're not coming back next year.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So Jen's like, so have you thought about talking to Shannon? I mean, what would happen, Alexis, if you said Shannon, you and I need to talk, what about that? And Taylor's like, no talking. And Alexis is like, I'm not doing that at this event. I refuse to do that at this event. I want to ruin her life on a clearer day.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I want it to be all about that. I'm not sharing a storyline, guys. I've worked very hard for this. Tamara's like, you know, by the way, she called me the other day when I was packing and she said if she didn't settle her pay John, he's gonna file a lawsuit against him. And did she pay? And now Alexis goes, you know what I said, Johnny, let's just settle. And he's like, fuck no, I already settled with you. I'm not going to settle again. So he's like, are you kidding? After everything I've gone through, after all the tequila I've had alone
Starting point is 00:40:43 here in my house, looking at my sad boat. And I get it, I get it, ladies. By the way, Alexis never said Johnny let's settle. I don't believe that for two fucking seconds. So she's like, Shannon has smeared his name and ruined Johnny J's reputation throughout the community. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:41:00 What was his reputation before? Are you like literally, like what community is this? What the fuck? What was his reputation before? What community is this? What are we talking about here? Commercials, here comes one right now. What's up guys? It's your girl Kiki and my podcast is back with a new season and let me tell you, it's too good.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And I'm diving into the brains of entertainment's best and brightest. Every episode I bring on a friend. So then Alexis, all gloves are off. He's not stopping you guys unless her attorney comes back with something good. John will file a lawsuit. So now we go back to the spot and Gina's like, um, she was like, well, should we just like stay out of it? Like she should, like she shouldn't want to touch this. Right. And Katie's they're basically saying like, why does Alexis want to get involved with this? You know, and Gina's like, I mean, even for her sake, I mean, even with that video thing, like I can't with all that stuff, not even with that video thing
Starting point is 00:42:07 that we're not supposed to mention in front of Shannon. Oops, I feel bad. I feel so bad. Yeah, you guys are being real smooth over there. And then we get- I wanted to read this tweet that I read that was cracking me up. It's from Rex Reed, W-R-E-X-E.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm not what I, Rex Reed. Why do I always expect? Oh, I see it. This account's so funny, but it's on Twitter. And it says, ruin John's reputation throughout the community. What community? Motherfuckers who look like Frankenstein's monster?
Starting point is 00:42:34 Square face assholes with stupid names? Five heads anonymous? So now we have- I'm so immature, but I was cracking up. It's like, I'm saving that forever. I'm gonna frame that. I'm putting that on my fridge, Ma. So now we have my favorite moment of the episode,
Starting point is 00:42:54 which I feel like is a beautiful parallel to Sun's track. It's Shannon going, what video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What thing a video? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Oh, I'm sorry, later. Can I have a what video thing? What video thing? You know what? I love that song by Lauryn Hill that goes, that thing, that thing, that what video thing? What video thing? So Emily's like, she doesn't know. What video thing? What thing? What video thing? What video thing?
Starting point is 00:43:40 What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? So we cut away to a memory of people talking about the video and then we cut back to Sharon and going, what video thing? What video thing? What video thing? What video thing? Can someone bring in the perfumer? Hello, perfumer. What video thing? So then everyone's just looking at each other and Gina's like, I fucked what video thing?
Starting point is 00:44:10 So she's looking around and Shannon goes, is it bad? She goes, I don't wanna talk about it. Well, she says she has ring cameras that have videos. On the night of my DUI? Ow, God, is my head leaking out of my ears? I'm sorry, on the night of my DUI? What are the details? I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 00:44:28 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't even remember, I don't even remember tonight. Is it a sign that, well, you mentioned Shannon's DUI that bubbles appeared on your camera, Ronnie, because that's exactly just what happened. I don't know if you saw that. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:44:44 I did not see it, no. A series of bubbles appeared on your camera. I do think it's exactly just what happened. I don't know if you saw that. Did you see that? I could not see it, no. A series of bubbles appeared on your camera. I do think the trick with this all the time. I don't know how I did. When you went like this, and somehow it created bubbles on your screen. You're like, my DIY! And bubbles just came up.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I was like, wow. I don't know, you can't repeat them though. I've tried to repeat them before and I can't do it. But there's- What bubbles? What bubbles? What bubbles? Oh gosh.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So then Emily is like, so Shannon's like, Jesus, you know what guys? I'm working so fucking hard on myself. I just took a notebook to a bar the other day and wrote down a list of goals. There was lime, there was cranberry, there was Pellegrino, and that's just a drink order. Wow. You're
Starting point is 00:45:27 right. It goes to goal. Am I right girls? So Gina's like, I know, I know, I feel bad. I know. And Shannon's like crying. I mean, this is actually God, like she is so hurt. She is making fun because it's Shannon. We love those words. Shannon and her, but she is devastated and crumbling and she is so hurt. She is, we're making fun because it's Shannon. We love those words, Shannon and her, but she is devastated and crumbling and she is like shaking and she's like, I can't, he's a monster. He's, he's a monster. He's a monster. I'm working so hard. And they basically like, she's like, she has to call her, her lawyer. She gets up and she calls her lawyer. This,
Starting point is 00:46:02 what Gina says winds up costing ultimately Shannon $75,000, which by the way, way to go, Gina, I think you owe her like a Snickers bar or something because you really just fucked it up. Well, I mean, the thing is, I know it could be viewed as a good service. Is that that she, everybody else knew except Shannon, you know, and that's the shittiest things on these shows. When they have information like this
Starting point is 00:46:28 and everyone's holding it from the person, but meanwhile they're making mincemeat out of them when the other person can't even defend themselves. So in a way, Gina's kind of heroic in this one. I mean, usually this is where Gina's an asshole, right? Where she's like, whoops, I brought something out on camera. But this time I think Shannon was actually deserving. Like she needs to know that people,
Starting point is 00:46:49 that this is going on, right? Yeah, but I just feel like the timing was not great. Cause the thing is this, John saying he's gonna release those videos, but we don't know if he actually would have, but now Shannon, it scares Shannon into paying him the $75,000. And I just hate that he got paid the money.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I hate that so much. And I really do think it's illegal. Like I feel like that is blackmail, right? Well, I think it would be blackmail if he said, if you don't give me this money, I'm gonna release the videos, but she didn't even know that there were videos. So I don't think it was technically extortion, right?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Well, I mean, I'm no lawyer, obviously. Here I am recapping another Housewives show. But I'm no lawyer, but I would think that if it's extortion, you have to actually extort the person. But maybe it's implied extortion, like, you either pay this money or I'm going to embarrass you or whatever. I mean, I don't know. I guess maybe a case could be made for that because Alexis has been going around threatening it.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I don't know. Maybe. So it's, this situation is so bad that Gina has to actually, she doesn't even say, I feel bad. She goes, I feel horrible. So the, while Shannon's on the phone, Katie and Emily go off to like some hot tubs.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Gina waits back for Shannon. And so I'm sorry, actually, sorry, I got that wrong. Shannon comes back and she says, she basically tells them like, I told my lawyer, just give him whatever he wants. I hope he rides in hell. I swear I hate him. I hate him. I mean, like she is so like, this is someone who has been like, like so deeply hurt, so deeply hurt. So then the girls are talking about it, you know, and Gina's, you know, feeling horrible, of course.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And so Shanna's just like, I can, I can give him whatever he wants. So Gina comes and hugs Shannon and she's like, I'm so sorry, Shannon. She goes, I just, I can't, thank you enough for telling me this. And she's like, there's no way around it. And she goes, I just, I can't, thank you enough for telling me this. And she's like, there's no way around it. I mean, I'm just so sorry this is happening.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And she's like, I have to go to the room. So she leaves and she's like, I'm really sorry, Shannon. And Shannon goes, listen, God has a plan. God has a plan. Apparently it was for me to pay $75,000 for a God damn face, but it's God's plan. it was for me to pay $75,000 for a goddamn face, but it's Scott's plan. So she leaves and then Gina's like, no, it is relaxing. It's like, what am I doing?
Starting point is 00:49:14 Cause of you. Yeah. And then, so the other ladies come back, they're back sort of drunk. And then meanwhile, this is when now Emily and Katie go to get some, excuse me, some treatments. So they get into some hot tubs and everything and talking about, uh, they just basically started talking about John. They're talking about, Oh, the water is so hot. And no, after they get done with that, they start talking about it. And Katie's like saying how she feels like Shannon should be out there with them. And you know,
Starting point is 00:49:42 they're just kind of like really outraged. And Katie suggests that maybe Emily should be the one to talk to Alexis since Emily has some sort of relationship with Alexis. CB And she's like, well, I mean, I kind of know her. I mean, she's not my close friend, but I could pull her to the side and say, I know you feel like you're right and I know you feel like you're defending him, but you know, you're not seeing this woman on the brink. This woman that I keep pushing slowly and slowly, each day another inch towards the brink. Like, I don't know that Emily's really the one to be standing up for anyone. Emily's
Starting point is 00:50:16 been fucking bullying this lady all year long. Yeah. More quietly than she's been bullying Jen, but still. Emily's been after Shannon for a long time. Come trust me, Shannon, Tell me everything. We're friends now. And then everything Shannon says, she's like, guess what Shannon said about you, Heather? Who trusted you? Alexis needs to know that instead of like seeing it as like defending John, you should look at it as it's the path of destroying another woman. And maybe you should look at
Starting point is 00:50:44 it like that. Oh, wait, hold on a second. I'm gonna go hang out with my new best friend, Tamara. Right? So then now they're basically, Emily's like, I don't think she knows how detrimental this is to Shannon. Of course she does. Like, give me a break, you guys. I think people are at the point now where they're like,
Starting point is 00:51:03 this is backfiring on us. So now we need to all kind of pull back a little bit. You know? I mean, although they couldn't have known because this was shot before, but I don't know how many of their testimonial, their confessionals and stuff were shot as the show's airing, but they also started
Starting point is 00:51:18 to air it themselves. $5,000. Yeah. That was Johnny J. That was Johnny J. Okay, don't talk bad about my man. He's gonna knock over your webcam. So meanwhile, so anyway, now it's evening time
Starting point is 00:51:30 and people are getting dressed and ready to go out to dinner, et cetera. And Heather is looking at herself in the mirror and she's like, I am so cute. And the hair and makeup person's like, you are so cute. Louder. You are so cute.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Okay, emphasis on the so, you are so cute. Okayder. You are so cute. OK, emphasis on the so. You are so cute. OK, now give me my picture paper. I'm really sorry, but could you guys be quiet over there? You're really hurting my. Sorry, Katie. Ow. Ow.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Sorry. Katie's just being tortured in her room. The walls are crumpling in. Please be quiet over there. So then everyone's just checking in with their kids. Tamara talked to Sophia who's like, hi, hi. How's everything? Good.
Starting point is 00:52:12 What do you have to do? Nothing. What are you doing tonight? Nothing. Only one more dancers? Yeah. And then we go over to Jen checking in with Ryan and she's like, it's our turn for dinner.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Are you doing dinner? What are you gonna do? Drop them off at Will's? He's like, we're getting pizza. She goes, oh my God, I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky. Wow, getting pizza with my children. Oh, the man that I'm marrying,
Starting point is 00:52:33 getting pizza for my children. I, did I win a lottery? Thank you. Thank you so much, Ryan. Thank you. Jones just so happy with just like the minimum. She really is. With her heart.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So now Heather's in her cabin, we're back to her, and Shannon comes over and she's still in her robe. And she's, oh, hi, you don't look ready for dinner. How was the spa? Are you planning to get changed in here? You wanna see what it's like for a wealthy woman to put on a dress? Is that what this is about?
Starting point is 00:53:00 I just saw you coming through the window. I'm afraid I wasn't here to get you an, oh, there he is. I'll have this in tackle. Why? Sorry, sorry. I didn't have time to call him off. Are you okay? She just says her bodyguard,
Starting point is 00:53:17 her Alfredo bodyguard tackling intruders. When you're an in-demand actress, you have to be careful. I'm way too close to billionaires like Mark Geibman to be safe. So she's like, I didn't get to any spot and make it. I hope this is, I hope it's okay. Tori, should I talk to you? Should I not talk to you?
Starting point is 00:53:34 She's like, oh, you know me, Heather Dubrow. If you have emotions to show, come to Heather Dubrow. Well, I have something weighing on me and I feel like I need to get that out. I'm not thinking right now. Okay, well I have a deadline today to get back to John. Jansen, are you familiar? Do you remember John?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Oh yes, yes. Okay, well I made an offer to him last week and I said I don't want to pay him any more money. And then Evan says you need to pay him. And he goes, cause the video. And I go, what video? I said, what video? And then I said, what video? And then I said, what video thing? And I said, what video thing? And I said, what video thing? And I said, what video thing? And then I said, what video thing? Okay. So that went on for about half an hour. And then- Well, listen, if this makes you feel any better, a lot of people know what it's like to go straight to video. Have you called Taylor Armstrong? She might be good to help with this.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I don't have her phone number. Unfortunately, I had to give that back to John Jansen also. So I know Alexis is telling everybody about a video and I don't even know about a video. Unlike you receiving scripts, every day for me there's something. Mm, well, okay. I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that, mostly because I wasn't listening. So go ahead.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Do you have any more of this monologue because I'm extremely tired, Alfredo. Yes, well, so he wants to clear his name and I am not lying about John. When I started my relationship, John, I paid for everything I did for the first couple of years. And I did. I paid for everything. Even the video things. I didn't know what the video things were, but I paid for them. And does it make you look bad? I don't know, but I'm not, I'm not lying about it. Not what a ring cam was. I said, why would I buy a ring for a camera?
Starting point is 00:55:22 I thought, would I marry a camera? Lord knows I make love to them plenty. Am I right, camera? Oh God, I'm so sad right now. Let me get back to my sadness. So, Heather, here's the big news I'm bringing over. Okay. Go on. When I had that DUI that night, I left the house. I said, goodbye, children. Goodbye, John. Have a lovely evening. And then I rushed into that house with my car. I ran into a flower pot or something and then I went unconscious and when I woke up in the hospital, my friend called me 10 days after and said, how many seconds did the accident happen after you
Starting point is 00:55:55 backed out of the driveway? And I said, three to five seconds max. And he said, well, I find it strange that John didn't come running after you, which he goes, wait, do you believe in your heart that he really did not hear that? I have to say that is terrible that you don't have a driver. Wow. The way some people have to live. So Shannon's like, well, I don't know. So I look back at my text messages and I don't remember that I did this,
Starting point is 00:56:27 but I guess I took a photo. I'm sorry, it's just hard for me to imagine the story because I'm feeling so sad for someone that lives so close to neighbors that their home could be hit 30 seconds after someone leaving their house. I didn't know you were about to have that few acres anchors. Between houses.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It just seemed, oh, there are your bubbles again, Ronnie. Their bubbles are back. Look, oh, they've just popped. They just popped. It's exclusive for Crappies on Demand. Anyway, it's tragic. Okay, you were saying something about how your Waymo crashed into a wheel.
Starting point is 00:57:03 No, I was driving it. I was actually driving. You actually had your hands into a wheel. I was driving it. I was actually driving it. You actually had your hands on a wheel. You were doing it on labor. Well, I looked back at my text messages and I didn't remember that I had done this, but I guess I took a photograph of myself and I sent it to him after I got in the wreck. And at 1.30 in the morning, he texts me, what the heck is going on? The cops just brought Archie here.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Where are you? She goes, wait, so you're saying that he ignored the picture? God, that hasn't happened to me since I auditioned for the role of Roseanne. Anybody over there get my picture? I said, you're just not Midwest enough. Why does no one believe that I love an Afghan blanket? So Shannon is like, well, I guess he went to bed, even though there was a car wreck outside his window. Well, maybe he didn't see it. So then Heather sits next to Shannon and she pulls out her phone.
Starting point is 00:57:53 She's gonna show this picture. And Heather's like, I just feel so terrible for Shannon. I can't even imagine what she's been through. I mean, she was almost unconscious. She hit her head. She was impaired that night. Doesn't even have a chauffeur. How much does she remember of this?
Starting point is 00:58:06 I wanna be as supportive as much as I can, you know? But at the same time, I'm thinking, I can't help every poor person. So then basically Shannon brings the picture on camera, like she's come over to Heather's to introduce this to the evidence, as evidence to the court of public opinion, which is that she took a picture of her face, it's all bloody and it is a scary picture, you know? And also it's so 2024 to be like, oh, I just crashed into a house drunk, here's a picture of my bloody face,
Starting point is 00:58:38 I'm gonna send it to my friends. But also, it's just, it's hard to look at it because it's like Shannon who doesn't love Shannon You know and her face is bleeding and then her point is she sends it to John and he just said He just pretended he didn't see it. So he didn't even have to help With her that night, which is more evidence. I guess that he's a monster of a human being which I mean it is Right because it's's like he saw her drive off or he heard her drive off and then he hears, like one has to believe he heard a crash not too long after that because.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Right. How do you not hear it? And then didn't want to have to go down to the station and deal with her and all this shit after that. And presumably that's because he was telling her not to get in the car and drive and that's why she almost ran over the daughter because the daughter was probably trying to block her car,
Starting point is 00:59:27 say, no, don't drive. And she did anyway and then got in a wreck. So he was probably like, well, fuck that. I'm not gonna go. This, you know. Which is so shitty. That's kind of the image that we've been left with, I think as an audience, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:40 And it's like, oh God, I'm just glad you had that. It got so dark there at the end. And I'm just like, man, this is, this is a lot. This season. And then I was thinking this is so fucked up. And then the fact that this guy's girlfriend is on the show with Shannon, this season is wild. Yes. Wild. It really is. And people are so fucking crazy because I know in an interview Tamra did, Tamra was
Starting point is 01:00:05 saying, oh, and Alexis is just so upset with the audience reaction to her this season. She just can't believe that people are so mean to her. I'm like, my God. So not only are you doing this, but you're really doing this thinking that you're some kind of fucking hero. You're going to be some kind of folk hero after it. What idiots, you know? But yeah, the show sure gets dark, but they sure keep it fun somehow. I don't know how they do it. They still somehow keep it fun. Well, everyone, thank you so much for being here and listening to our very long recap.
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