Watch What Crappens - #2557 RHOC S18E10 Part Two: Fashion Victims

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

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I just can't stop shitting, guys. Well, great. It's great to know. Let's go. Go stick your hands into some dough. And so the, I mean, listen, dough is on the brat diet. Okay. You know what's, you know what's having a brat summer, the brat diet. Okay. What's a brat? There's a brat diet. First of all, brat summer's over.

I saw Charlie Whatcher buns right on the Twitter by brat summer. Wow. Brats, you were like, you were amazing. I can't go. Summer's over. Wow. That's sad. Um, The Brad diet precedes summer Brad diet is what you do when you are shitting your brains out. B stands for bananas, R stands for rice, A stands for applesauce, and T stands for Timer Bonnie, bitch. I don't remember what T stands for.

It's time for that. Oh, that's a real thing, the Brad diet? T stands for toast, yeah, it's a real thing, the brat diet? Cheese stands for toast. Yeah, it's a real thing. Oh, I thought you were like showing Riz right now. No, I don't have Riz like that. Brat diet is like an actual thing. It's what you're supposed to eat.

I don't know if it actually works. I seem to remember looking up saying that it may just be anecdotal, but, you know, brat diet. So she should be on the brat diet. I feel like that's like a Chicago thing where it's like, it's a bread diet. You know, we're just eat a lot of bratwurst. So, um, anyway, the women basically just go to a place called picnic and it's just across the street.

So they go in and, uh, the owner is there. Her name is Mags. She's like, hi, I'm Max. Come on. And I'll set you up. So they put on aprons and they get to work. They're working on. Can I just tell you Mags was born to biscuit class? I love, I mean, she was just born to do this. Mags like had like the full on do rag in her hair. And she was like, guys, who's ready for some biscuits? Am I right? Get in here. It's me, Mags.

You know, she loves to teach a good afterschool class class to teenagers. She's like, Mags' biscuit camp. You know, she's just teaching the whole community. What are you doing here again? You're already great at making biscuits. Mags, I just needed a little Mags time. Get in here. Get in here. So meanwhile, the other group are in the forest and they are greeted by a woman named Jenny, who I'm pretty sure is also mags just in a hat. Like Jenny's really made for her job too. She's like, guys, I'm Jenny and I teach yoga in the parts of Sonoma.

So so that, um, they're sitting there and Heather's like, the number one thing for Shannon is that she needs to protect her wellbeing. And like, Jenny's like, okay, yeah, all right. Well, guys, I don't know who this Shannon person is, but have you guys heard of forests? Okay, because we're about to do some forest bathing. Has anyone forest bathed before? It means that you take a bath in the forest, but without any water, you just lie there. The fuck is forest bathing? Give me a fucking break with that. Also, I have to take Umbridge with something Heather said. She said, the number one thing is that Shannon protect her wellbeing. Shannon doesn't have wellbeing. Have you ever seen this show?

I've never seen Shannon have any kind of wellbeing. Pete Slauson That is a fair point. Pete Slauson There's never been a season of Shannon having wellbeing. There's nothing to protect there, okay? We're just trying not to get her institutionalized at this point, okay? Don't try to protect any kind of wellbeing. Pete So, the whole point is that you lie there on a blanket and you listen to the forest. And so, then back in cooking class, they're making more biscuits and Gina's saying like, this is how I make my meatballs. I mean, you know, after I defrost them from the package.

I was going to say you've never made a meatball. So then, um, uh, let's see. Alexis is by the way, she's like, so, you know, guys, this is like really fun. And I just want to say, I feel really bad for the position that you guys are in. Like I'm willing to move forward and to try to find a way to exist with that bitch who ruined Johnny J's life. And Emily's like, yeah, it's difficult to navigate, which is a coincidence because it's the same words that Heather Debrow keeps saying. It is. I'm not even in this scene, but let me tell you something. It's difficult to navigate. It's so difficult to navigate. And we see a flashback to when Emily and Alexis were talking the night before and Alexis is saying, you know, Emily is like, I mean,

your intent is just to, is your intent just to destroy this woman? No, if that were my intent, Emily, it would have been done a long time ago. So now they're giving Alexis props for being mature and realizing things need to change with Shannon. Like she gets props for having the most basic human consideration. Which she hasn't even shown yet. All she did was stay home one night. And they're like, wow, she's grown so much. And Gina's like, yeah, let's just let it go down a little bit. I think we made some progress. Yeah.

So I'll take it. You know what? It's not a sprint. It's a marathon. I think we made some progress, Ian. So I'll take it. You know what? It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. Marathon. Carol Radz will just sort of droops into the frame. So Alexis is like, you know what?

It shouldn't be brought around to you guys. Well, you know what? I'm asking you to not assume that because like when you're trying to support Shannon, don't assume that because we're trying to support Shannon that we're like against you because I'm not. And if you feel that way, then you know what? I feel bad. So then we come back to the forest and Shannon shows up like the little girl from the ring. She's just like, Hi, it's me, but Shannon, I, I fine Shannon. I don't have a hair brush.

I don't have a hair brush. It's my face on. Oh, it's okay, Shannon. Here's a pine cone you can use. So they all start the process and Jenny is leading them through the sort of guided meditation and everything. So I'm gonna guide us through some sensory awareness

practice and when thoughts creep in, simply note it. everything. And so I'm going to guide us through some sensory awareness practice. And when thoughts creep in simply noted Shannon. Sorry. That was difficult from last night. Meditation. Sorry, go ahead. Let's meditate. Meditation is hard for me because my mind is always working. And we see like footage of like Alexis Blina terrorizing her like there's the door Shannon Bador. And she is just so funny because they're putting all these little. Well her head keeps darting. You laugh so hard.

Every time her head darts in the direction they just put a little bubble up Alexis Blina. That was so funny they just put these little bubbles of Alexis's face and Shannon just happens to be looking all around the forest. That was some funny shit. So back to the cooking class, Emily's like, well, you've been friends with Shannon for years, Tamara. I feel like you're unable to see any compassion towards her. She's like, yeah, because I can't let go, let this go on in my life anymore. Do you know what kills me? To sit there and watch her order drinks after all the things she did to me when she was drunk, which is nothing. Pete Larkin Literally nothing. She called you too much.

Oh my god, stop answering the phone. Jesus Christ, what's a boundary? Pete Larkin So then Gina's like, I mean, you know what? What I don't get is you trying to set a boundary for everybody else. Cause like I got my own shit that I got to dealt with. And like part of the reason I don't drink anymore is cause I looked at Shannon and she's 20 years ahead of me. And I looked at what that looked like and I didn't like that. I didn't like that. I mean, so yeah. Wow. That's she goes, so I'm being supportive of her. Yeah. That's really supportive.

You're like, look at Shannon. She's just an old, disgusting, tired, sloppy mess. I saw Shannon Bidouin and she was like, just this pathetic pile of sadness dating a rumpled old man who treated her badly. It looks sort of like Al Gore and sort of like that eagle from the Muppets. Oh, sorry, Alexis. It's part of like the sadness of Shannon is basically what Alexis is attached to. Yeah. So then Alexis is like, everybody in this group just needs to butt out and let everybody be friends with everybody. Oh, okay. Okay. And then Emily's like, Oh, can I just say something? And then Mags goes, Hey guys, Mags here. Did the

biscuit making help you guys come together? I don't need any help with that with Johnny J. If you know what I'm talking about. Okay, thanks. I'm going to close down my business because I'm disgusted. This is the first time that I've had a group in here that didn't immediately get Mags'd. So, meanwhile, we go back to the forest bathers and the meditation continues on and Jen is loving this moment and she's, they're talking about like, they're all talking about how it's just beautiful. And you hear the sounds of the forest and it's bucolic and the trees and sorry, sorry.

Sorry, sorry. Sorry. Oh, yeah. It's just Shannon hacking up a lung while they're trying to meditate. While Jen is trying to get the smell of the honeysuckle. Does honeysuckles grow in a forest, by the way? I don't know. And I don't understand forests. So Heather's like, oh my God, the way. I don't know. And I don't understand forests. So Heather's like, oh my God, the coughing.

I thought this was supposed to be serene and relaxing. Well, I don't know if those things can happen in the presence of Heather. It's like, can one meditate and enjoy the sounds of a forest with Heather to brother, you will be relaxed. So I don't think Heather should relax. I think Heather is so tightly wound. If she relaxes, literally all of her limbs

are just gonna fall off. She can't, she'll just fall apart. She'll just be a puddle on the ground. Like she's, don't untie whatever's done in there, okay? It's been tied so tight for so long. Who even knows how old she is, you know? She's just all, mmm. so tight for so long. Who even knows how old she is? You know, she's just all,

it's like this disdain of poor, poor people has been powering her for so many years. She can't just let it go suddenly. So over at the cooking class, they all wrap up, they finish up, they're good. They're going to go get ready for the catwalk and then we come back to the forest and, um, their faces are all like down in the ground. And Jenny is like, all right, everyone, stay connected to our senses through the sense of touch, the sense of smell, the sound of Shannon's lungs filling with mucus spelled.

I have to put my, I have to put my face down in the grass. What, but what if they're ants? What, what, what do I do if they're, what if they're ants? What if they crawl all over me the way that Alex Bellino crawls all over me where there are false accusations? Oh my God. And this fucking Jenny check leading the thing, sniffing the branches and the flesh, she's like, come on guys, breathe it in.

Breathe it in guys. Shut up. You're charging money for this. This shit's free. Yeah. This goes on for a long time. They're meditating, they're hitting bull, et cetera, et cetera. And they are drinking a, they wind up drinking a tea called stress ease. And, um, Jenny finally leaves and Katie's like, once Jenny's gone, Katie's like, goes up to Heather and goes,

Heather, I just, I really want to talk to you. All that stuff that came out about, you know, I feel like it was a little bit of a set up. We are going backwards Katie I'm telling you we're going backwards and unless we're rolling the footage back to hot in Cleveland, which I guess start on I am NOT interested This is my place this is a place I want peace Well except for Shannon Okay peace. Well, except for Shannon. Okay. And Katie's like, I just want Heather to let me speak and treat me like a human being. And right now she's treating me as something disposable. She's treating

you as something that she wants to shut the fuck up, Katie. Okay? You don't have to make it as you're so disposable. You won't shut up. She doesn't want to listen. Sometimes people just don't want to listen. Okay? Luckily with me, they can literally just turn me off, you know? And if you had a button right now or an unsubscribe, I'm sure that they would hit it. They would unfollow show right now. Okay. Just let the woman have her peace. Katie acting like being treated like she's disposable is a new concept with Heather Dubrow. That's literally how she's treated every single castmate, both on this show and on Malibu Country. Okay? Like, unless you are her, like, two friends who have the winery that

appear every so often on the show, you're going to be disposed of by her. Even Richard Marx was in the basement. Yeah. And I think that part of this that bugs me is that, first of all, you're making me stand up for Heather, which very rarely happens. Second, I think that you came into this knowing that Heather was like that and you already didn't like her because you've seen the show. And that's annoying because Heather's actually been somewhat decent to you this year. So you're coming after her for nothing. If you just let Heather warm up, you'll have plenty of things to come at her with, but you're just coming at her with useless stuff.

That being said, Heather cracks me up. God, Heather is so fucking condescending. She's like, we're going backwards, Katie. We're going backwards. We don't want to go backwards. I hope you're okay with that. And Katie's like, well, I guess I have to be good. You've realized here's my coat and could you get my car, please? Thank you so much. Oh, wait, before you drive off, let me take pictures of the car in case there's a scratch later. Not to accuse you of anything, but you're not the only one that works here. We'll be sure to pick you up from the Holiday Inn before the event tonight. I'm staying

at the same hotel as you guys. Really? You're a cast member? That's surprising. I thought you were a PA. They're renting out mop closets now? Sweet. So next we go to the family equality event at Star Vineyards. So, you know, we see the people running the thing and Heather is walking around like, candles, great, flowers, great, poor people, great. Oh, wait, can we move a poor person from over there to over here, because there's two there and there's one here. And I would rather there be two and two.

If they're not in sets, one looks sad and the people are concentrating on the wrong charity. Do you understand? Thank you. So the women arrive and Heather explains that, we know they're gonna be walking in this fashion show, but now we get to find out what the fashion show is. And she goes, so I'm doing this collab with Susan Bender

Who is a wealthier poor person? But still poor and we were talking one day about how it's really hard to find the basics when you go into a store you know you walk in you're like where the Faberge eggs or Where's the cashmere or which is the Bentley section? It's just sometimes so difficult But she's like, yeah, you know, it's so hard to find basics Where's the best pair of black slacks the perfect white shirt? And then we said why don't we just make it? This is so fucking Heather to be like let's get some Haynes t-shirt and then up mark them times five and resell them Like she did during kovat with the masks and that shit. Or she's like, the whole country is out of masks and Heather

Dubrow is like, Heather and I, we have HD masks available now for $90 million per mask. Good luck. You know, the other night I had a stress nightmare that I was crawling through Gina's tiny closet again looking for something suitable for her to wear literally to any place and couldn't find it. I thought, you know what, let's make slacks. That's what we've done. And it's, it's almost, it's so her too, that she's taking an LGBTQ plus event and turning

it into basic fashion. Why are you taking the one thing that we constantly have in this world? The gays have fashion. I mean, not me personally, but in general. We have fashion and now you're turning it into your basic ass line that you didn't even create. Get the fuck out of here with that, Heather, come on. You know, sometimes I'm not totally sure

that the gays have fashion. Again, and I also don't have fashion. Well, stereotypically. Stereotypically, we do have fashion, but if you really look around, let's, let's, we may need to reassess that stereotype. So, um, let's be honest. I mean, so, uh, anyway, so, so they're doling out,

they're basically giving out these looks to everyone. They've, there's a sequin D thing for Katie, whatever. Everyone gets a different look and Heather's talking about how she recently walked a runway for the American heart association. And she goes, basically she, you know, Emily's starting to feel self-conscious. She's like, maybe I shouldn't have had that huge biscuit. I mean, if you put Alexis in a dress and it's tiny and then you give me a dress and it's big, I don't feel good anymore anymore because they give Emily this, this coat.

And the lady who gets to her says, okay, this is oversized. Um, which I actually interpreted that not as like, this is oversized. So it fits you as in like the style is that you wear this baggy, right? But it's still a trigger. It's literally oversized. It's a huge oversized blazer, which is kind of in fashion, like the girls on Summer House wear it. Yeah, like my friend Jenny is very, very fashionable and she just posted a photo yesterday and

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want my own fashion line. I have my own now. It's like, it's just so hard to walk in and be like, I want this. It's mine, you know? Okay. So anyway, now, Hamlin decides, well, I've already used my mother's storyline and I've already used my Boudoir storyline. Well, I guess I've fat shamed Shane enough, now I'm gonna use this for a storyline. So, look, I get it when you're big and you feel like an insecurity and stuff like that. Yeah, no one's taking that away. And I also- From her. Right, I'm not gonna take that away from her. But, you know, to be like, oh my God,

Heather's treating me like she thinks I'm fat. Honey, Heather can look at the cast of Nightmare Before Christmas and she thinks they're all played by like Honey Boo Boo and her mother. You know what I mean? Heather thinks everyone's fat. Heather is a pinky. I, you know, the irony was I thought Emily looked amazing in this outfit. I was like, this looks great. This is, should totally be her style. Cause like she's normally wearing sort of these like typical Orange County kind of looks. I don't, this looks great. This is should totally be her style because like she's normally wearing sort of these like typical Orange County kind of looks. I don't know how you even describe them like weird things are cut out and whatever. I was like, I thought this looked great on her. I don't

know. But again, I don't have a sense of style or sense of fashion. Totally. I rely on other people but I was like, she looks fucking great. Well, but then the other thing was well, the other thing was jeans, right? Because Heather told her, oh, this is your first look and you brought jeans, right? Okay, so you're gonna get the big model jacket, which is so fucking awesome. Pete Did she say that? That's in our notes. Okay, if she said that, okay, so looking for Heather is like, oh, I'm gonna get married.

Jared Heather said you're gonna get the big model jacket. Pete Our notes say, so you get the big model jacket. It's so fucking awesome. She's like, do you like it? Is it good? And Emily's like, so she starts getting upset and we start, Emily, we start seeing her spiral. And Susan's like, it's supposed to be oversized, you know that. She's like, oh, okay. She's like, is that okay? Is that cool? Is that cool? Every woman loves hearing the words oversized. Surely. Like, but I also, on the other hand, I also know that Heather would know better than this.

You know what I mean? Especially cause last season they got into a huge fight because Heather said that Emily's hair looked like snuffleupagus. And honestly, I don't, and Heather didn't, wasn't even being mean in that moment. You're right. The snuffle up against fight and also they do still have the awkwardness of Gina in between them. Now that I'm actually had a day to think about this and I'm watching it again, I'm wondering if there is, that Heather is doing here, that's not cool.

Because I feel like any woman or gay would know better than to be like, oh, a high person who is really struggling with their weight and just lost a lot of weight, you get the oversize, it's supposed to be oversized, you get that right, did you bring your own pants to wear? I mean, maybe she didn't. I actually did. Believe it or not, I don't think Heather was intentionally bugging around in this situation. I didn't think so, but now that I'm thinking about, of course I can make anyone evil if I think about it too much. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, I just, I think I totally get, you know, Emily's insecurities.

Like we've all been insecure about our bodies in different ways, et cetera. And sometimes someone can say something and they think they're being really nice. And what they've actually done is like, remind you of like a trouble area that you've been like ashamed of, you know, whatever. So like, I totally get this. I think it's totally relatable what Emily went through. But that being said, it's funny when you see it from an outsider of a situation

where you're like, you're spiraling, but the truth is this was actually totally benign and you look fantastic, you know? But you know, easier said than done. Yeah. Yeah. So she, you know, but you know, easier said than done. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so she, you know, so Emily tells us like, you know, I, this sucks. It's making me insecure because she told me to bring jeans, but everyone else has black

pants and like, why did I have to bring my own jeans? Because I don't have black pants to fit me. And Gina's like, but they make them to size on like, look at some of those girls. They're curvy too. You know, like you're not the only one who's curvy. Don't look at that girl. She's curvy like you, you're curvy. Like, well, why doesn't, why isn't Gina getting in trouble for saying curvy? Yeah. Well, also what's funny is that I think Emily loves to kind of play the card of like, Hey, I'm just like, Hey, I'm just a girl. Just put me in some jeans and give me a taco. I'm going to bring a tuna salad sandwich into or turkey sandwich into the spot. Like I'm just like your normal girl, no frills.

And the moment that she has to be put into jeans, she's like, why do I have to be jeans? So it kind of also exposes like the persona that you're putting on maybe a little different than like what you really are. Well, I think that's just part of weight when that's your issue, you know, because that's always been my issue. And so, I think that there's just so many personalities that go along with that where you're like, oh my God, look at me being funny about my eating. Haha, isn't it funny? And like kind of making a joke. And then it's the like, but look, now I'm like really serious about my health. I'm super serious about that. And I respect myself.

And if I want to lose weight, then that's my... Because, you know, then if you lose weight, then people have a problem with that too, you know? And then you have to like come up with something for that. And then she did lose a bunch of weight. So now she's trying to get used to that and being like, am I a traitor for losing weight? Now everybody thinks I'm on Ozempic and maybe I'm not on Ozempic and I'm just working out a lot. And now I'm at this fucking fashion event and now they're still making me feel weird. And one of her things isn't even like they're making her feel fat. She's just like, did I even lose any weight? Like, are they gaslighting me? Am I still too big? I mean, it's just such a clusterfuck in the head. So I do feel for her in that regard, you know.

Totally. So then Shannon, like, we're gonna go to commercial now. By the way, I have to say, Ronnie, you know what's been funny through all this? The sheer number of times your camera is but bubbles up on screen. I don't know what this gesture is that you do, but like the amount of bubbles and thumbs up that come out on your screen.

Really? That's funny. So I'm doing something. I don't know. My screen's so low too, I'm cutting off my whole head. I don't know So I'm doing something. I don't know. My screen's so low too. I'm cutting off my whole head. I don't know what I'm doing today. Well in the meantime, Shannon informs us that she's going to be leaving early because she has a Shannon and Vicki live show in Houston and she's ready to leave the negativity. So people are arriving and Heather addresses the crowd and she says, well, she's not addressing

the crowd, but she says, I am a really lucky person. I found a life partner that is truly my partner. Of course, he's going to be at the Savannan because it's about our family and there's a camera there. So then Heather and Tamara are talking. Look at it. Look at Terry pretending I'm standing in front of him and hugging me from behind in Panama. I'm Terry. That's a good one. That's going to be in people. That's going to be in people. People's here, right? Dave? Dave, you there? Okay. He's there. So, meanwhile, Heather and Tamara are talking at like a high top and Tamara gets to do one of her favorite pastimes, which is rile Heather up. And admittedly, I think this is one of Tamara's most hilarious traits, except for last season when she was totally in the wrong and totally obnoxious about it.

But when she's in a low stakes environment, I find it to be amusing. So, you know, Heather's talking about how, so I went on this Zen sound bath forest thing today, which was really nice. And then in front of all the other girls, some, I don't know, staffer or a park ranger her name is Katie she said she wanted to talk about Gina and all these things and I didn't let her talk I was

like I don't see any nice designer clothes on you or any diamonds so I don't know why you're actually trying to open your mouth and say words to me right now hey listen here listen here team you're not giving a grace I see someone that was fed up and hung out to dry Look at me in the eye. Let me shake your shoulders You're mad at the wrong poor It doesn't make any sense to me that Gina told Katie that you just bring this up around the group of girls I don't even know her. I think she just thought that she had one on Heather and it backfired on her face, bitch. Oh my God. So then she goes and turns Heather right. That's all Tamara's doing this whole

episode. Now she's moved here before it was. I just want, I'm sorry. I cut you off. But Tamara knows how to get her. So let's watch her keep working it. So Tamara's like, well, yeah, none of this makes sense. It's Gina. Now do I think that she fucked up? Sure. And she goes, yeah. And she goes, but why is loving her off the hook so easy? Listen, Gina told Katie, you're probably right about the pictures, but, and the paparazzi, but I can't go there. You know why? Cause Heather's so rich and she's got real estate connections. So I gotta keep her close. I always see a flashback that Katie told basically Tamara this and Heather goes, oh, like the moment that like, cause Heather's like, whatever. No, fuck Katie, fuck Katie.

But the moment that Tamara says, oh yeah, Gina's just keeping you for your connections. Heather goes, well, you guess, guess what? She lost that big time. I mean, let's be honest. I was never going to refer any of my wealthy friends to Gina as their realtor. We all thought, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha All you do is wield your money and use it against people. That's what you're doing this whole time. Everyone's going to fall over themselves in about five minutes trying to kiss Heather's ass to keep in her good graces because she's rich. Like, every single one of them does it. But then when it becomes something that they're all admitting, like, we're just being nice to you because of her money, she acts like she's so offended, as if she's not lording

it over all of their heads just to keep her power. Get the fuck out of here, lady. This is totally fucked up. And also, where are these connections that you've given her? Because I don't think she's had any gigantic houses that you've given her through your connections. So unless you've actually given her something,

you don't get to act so offensive. Gina's in a split up. God, now I'm standing up for Gina? What is happening with me? Did I quit? Gina's in a split up. Gina is sticking around for the connections, or at least the free Nobu. It's like, oh, sorry Gina,

we had a Nobu dinner last night, but then I don't know, we got tired. So here it is, $500 worth of sushi. Oh my God, yes, boo. Yes, boo. So now Shannon and Emily are having drinks outside and Emily's like, do you want a margarita? She's like, well, I haven't actually had tequila in quite a while.

Being that I have such control over my drinking these days, it's been so long since I've had tequila. Wow, I think it must have been months and months and months. I haven't had tequila in so long. I need a chip. Delicious. Hello, actress, wealthy actress speaking. Everybody, thank you so much for being here

in honor of family equality. This is all about inclusion, which is what I always say when I tell my staff to use the back door to enter the house. So all the pre-orders from this capsule collection that Susan and I are doing together, they all go back to family equality. So here are my two blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, guests, guests, guests, family equality.

Here are some slacks. Enjoy. I love how they're giving a designer speech like she's in the project runway finale for t-shirts that she's about to send down the aisle. So now everybody walks down the aisle in these stupid fucking clothes, I can't with this. They're literally t-shirts and jeans and leather pants. So everyone has kind of a, and then here's the other thing about this, Emily, everyone comes out in like jeans or pants of some kind and a jacket, and then they take off the jacket and show off their t-shirt, right? So everybody is given a jacket. And I think, wasn't Tamara wearing an oversized jacket too?

Pete I don't remember to be honest. David I'm not sure. Someone was wearing an oversized jacket. Okay, so anyway, they do this thing and then Emily's like, I'm just, I'm just trying to have a lot of energy and have fun and just move on, you know what?" And then this is where Gina goes, you know what? I powered through. I had the moment. I did it. I hit it. And now I'm happy to quit it. Pete I'm like, you just walked, you just walked down a, through a restaurant wearing a blazer. Congratulations. Pete This is where Gina's, Gina's confessional line.

She's like, yes, nailed that one. I really got that. I know, she, yeah. Surely now I'm gonna have a meme. Now I'm gonna have a meme. She had this big smile afterwards. Like she was like, that was like so funny. That was so good.

So Gina and Heather sit at a table and Gina's like, oh my God, I can't read the font. Did you bring your readers? I do have them, but I don't really want to wear them. Listen, I need to talk to you tomorrow. I just can't take all the chatter anymore. It's not about my IMDB. So therefore it's not really that important. So we gotta just fucking blow it out the box. I don't want to do it tonight. I gotta focus on this. We'll talk tomorrow and if this gives you a nightmare, then my work here is done. Thank you.

Now, please like make like a bukha de pepo and leave." And Gina's like, okay, like she's just been dismissed, you know, so she just gets up and walks away. She's like, oh, I'm such an asshole. I'm such an asshole. Like, we're going to talk, not now, but I'd like you to go stew about it for the rest of the evening. I want this. And wonder what you've done to upset a rich person. I want you to be stressed out for the next 18 hours of your life. Consider this a voicemail from a creditor. Now be gone, be gone. I've got my readers out.

Alfredo, read this to me. Does anyone need some no-goo sushi? Sorry, Gina, it's not for you. Oh my God. Things are getting really bad. Oh my God, I guess I'm in trouble with Heather again. Gina's in trouble. I guess I must be forever bent over waiting for my spanking from Heather. So then, you know, Tamara's talking to Katie and she was like, Oh my God,

that's so I did have a conversation with Heather before the event. And she's like, Oh, it's not lost on me. I get it I'm mad at her and she will never get any business for me ever. So guess what bet you won Kitty's like, oh my god, Katie's like, oh no, Gina's gonna hate me. I think that Gina was probably like listen, I know you're pissed, but I'm not fucking with Heather She knows everybody in town and I'm trying to work here. Exactly.

What do you want from me? I think that's a pretty normal one to say. Who wouldn't say that? Yeah, that's a pretty normal thing. And now Katie twisted it to Tamara and now Tamara is of course making it sound like... Yeah, Tamara is the worst person to tell. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. So then Alexis and Johnny J are taking pictures in the step and repeat and Heather's like, okay, everybody,

wait, did we already do this? It's my third speech. So I'm giving another speech. Wow. It's time for another speech. This is the one where I think I'm going to make Terry cry. Well, who knows? So she does another thing where she goes, you know, people tell me that our children are so lucky to have me and Terri as parents. Thank you. Thank you. Hope for applause. Okay. Unfortunately, my mom is not one of those people, but that's why we never see her anymore in the show. The truth is we're the lucky ones because without our kids, we would never be viewed as sympathetic. Yeah, basically. And she's like, and we are aware that support afforded to our kids is

not afforded to other kids, mostly because other kids can't afford it. If that makes any sense. So I've made it my personal mission as a mother to try as many other families as I can, which is why I'm trying to turn a profit at this charity event. Thank you. We are very well aware that other children don't get to live as perfectly as my children do. Not every family has Richard Marx in the basement to sing to them. So that's why we are here. We're donating Richard Marx's to poor families.

She goes, since my first child came out publicly, I feel like modeling is the best way to show people that we're normal, both modeling behavior and also modeling and fashion shows in Sonoma. It's important that my children know that even if they may not fit in, I will always fit in the smallest pair of pants as I'm displaying right now. It's important for my children to know that while there are bigots out there and homophobes, they can always come to Sonoma and walk in fashion shows. So everyone's like, whoa. And so then Alexis and Heather are hugging and telling each other they love each other so much. So then Jen and Gina are talking and she's like, Hey, hi Gina, what's going on? How are you? It's so good to see you here. Thank you so much

for being here. You know what? You guys were all, what happened? What happened with Katie? And she's like, Oh yeah, she's not very happy with you. Well, she was trying to have a conversation with Heather Dubrow. And basically she's saying that you, you said around, you said around, everything's your fault. Oh my God. Oh my God. up. You set her up. Oh my god. Everything's your fault. Oh my god, okay, you know what? Let's just talk. This is fucking stupid.

Okay, oh my god, Katie, do you wanna talk? And Katie's like, sure, but let's not do it tonight. Sorry, I learned that one from Heather DeBrown. She's gonna make you wait, wait for hours and hours. Yes. I love that everyone's making Gina stew. It's so funny. Gina has been, I love that Gina has been pushed back.

Like Gina's been postponed. Yeah. So outside Heather and Alexis are like, oh my God, should you confront, should you try and talk to Shannon? Maybe you should talk to Shannon. I don't know. Maybe you should. And she's like, Emily told me to talk to Shannon.

And then we see a clip of her saying, you should talk to Shannon. So of course, Emily running around doing Tamra's dirty work because now she's a producer plant with Tamara. It's like Tamara and Emily both running around trying to make storyline happen all day. So then Alexis is like, but this is about family, love and equality, which makes it the perfect excuse to have a housewife. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do this for all the children out there. Well, whatever you do is fine. If she hasn't left for her flight yet, then by all means, you guys may have a fight. I've decided that this is the time to have a fight. So she's like, are you sure? I don't like drama unless it's taking down

Shannon Bador because honestly I've tried it for years and I've never really been successful. Good luck, Obi-Wan. Hold on one second. Gina, you really fucked up. And I don't know if there's any coming back from this. I'll tell you about it tomorrow. Hold on. I just want to leave Gina a voice message. Gina, I'm so disappointed. Please don't talk to me tonight. If you ever come between me and something that you will find out about tomorrow, it will cost you a lot.

You can find out if you want to find out why I'm furious with you, you can now pre-order one of the HD Basic Tees. Come back here with your receipt code. Gina, it looks like you're not a subscriber yet to the HDTV channel on Mark Cuban's television network. To find out more for why I'm mad at you, please fill out this form and opt into emails and newsletters. Thank you. So then Shannon and Gina are talking with Jen and Shannon's like, oh, I just feel so badly. Heather's planned this beautiful trip and there's been so much downpour on this, mostly downpour of sadness from Alexis smell

you know, I came up with that one. She smells, she smells, spread that one around girls. You know what? It's funny that you say you feel so banned because that's kind of my thing. And like you and Alexis are like kind of saying the same thing, you know, just like you're saying the same thing as I'm saying right now. She's not willing to back down a single millimeter, not even a millimeter. That's the methametric system system Gina. I know you're confused

It's a whole other system Well, you shouldn't get mad at inches just because they're born in a different years not a millennial. It's not a millennial inch It's literally a different unit of measurement We're talking about Alexis. Oh, well, I know you're going to get on a flight, Shannon, for the sake of all of us. Could you sit down with Alexis? That person's name is not going to come up. No. Will I sit down with Alexis?

No. What's up guys. It's your girl Kiki and my podcast is back with a new season and let me tell you is too good And I'm diving into the brains of entertainment's best and brightest. Okay, every episode I bring on a friend I mean the likes of Amy Poehler, Kel Mitchell, Vivica Fox, the list goes on so follow watch and listen to baby This is Kiki Palmer on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts So outside Katie is with Heather, Tamara and Alexis and Heather's like, Katie, I didn't let you vent

today and had I realized that it was truly to make Gina the bad guy, I would have let you speak a little bit. So it really wasn't a great moment for me. Oh good. I'm so glad I get to that tomorrow. Tomorrow. Let's do tomorrow. I've got a whole, I've got a whole eye towel set up with poor people that are agenda. And Alfredo is going to be taking minutes. It's going to be a great time. Mill a minute. Gina stop. Just stop. Metric system does not work for time Gina. So they cling glasses and Tamara sees them and she's like, Oh, I love this. And Heather's

like, Oh, calm down. So Heather's like, you know, I feel so bad that I wouldn't allow Katie an audience, but I've learned from Chappell Rhone not to let the audience push you around. Furthermore, tomorrow's confrontation, I will be H-O-T-E-D-O-G-O. That's how the kids are saying it, yes. Do you remember when I was trying to figure out that TJ Maxx thing? It was hot or hot. Do you remember this? I was trying to figure it out last week. It's hot or hot, not culture or whatever.

I'm sure you don't remember, but it just hit me. Had to let it out there. Sorry, the ADD comes in like a week late sometimes when I figure something out from the week before, but I actually have something to say about that. I actually have something to say about that. Okay. You're gonna have to wait till tomorrow though. Sorry. I felt right. Tomorrow. We'll talk about that tomorrow, Ronnie, but just know I'm very upset about that TJ Maxx comparison. So Heather's like, I feel bad I won't allow Katie an audience, but I don't feel bad that she wanted an audience at an inappropriate time. But maybe we can work on that. It's like asking Malibu Country to air at 10pm on a Friday night. It's not the right time for the audience. So she's watching Alexis, you know,

it's like Alexis is saying, like, is the thumbs up to talk to Shannon or thumbs down to talk to Shannon? And Emily's giving her the thumbs down. Roll! You're a salad in a taco shop. So then Shannon's like, you know, I have had two days from hell and you guys can enjoy your time with her. And this trip took me over the edge.

Okay. And now I know I need to go because you know what won't take me over the edge? Performing at a venue in Houston with Vicki Gumbelson. So she's saying bye to everybody. And then she goes over to Alexis and she goes, well, I know I won't get a hug. No, Alexis goes, I know I won't get a hug, but I'd like to say bye. And so she opens her arms for a hug and Shannon just kind of looks at her. She's standing over her and she goes, Alexis, I heard you wanted to speak to me, but I need to let you know. I'm not interested. Okay. Wait, hold on.

interested. Okay. Wait, hold on. And this truly was kind of like, like a new version of the I start charities, Megan. You know, like when she stormed out of that, that's, she sort of had that same energy. She was over Alexis. She was sort of pointing and be like, I am not interested. And so Alexis is like, well, I'm just trying to make peace with everyone else, Shannon. And Shannon's like, no. So Shannon just storms out and she was like, what was that?

Well, she said, I know you've asked to speak with me and I want to let you know I'm not interested and I just want to make it civil. And Tamara's like, okay, well, whatever her decision is, it's her decision. It's her decision. Which basically I think she's saying, okay, well, the point is you tried and she shut you down and back like a bitch. So now you look like a good guy. She looks like an asshole.

Well done, man. And she's drunk. So next day, she's probably drunk. So the next day, everyone's leaving Sonoma and Alexis is doing the wacky thing of trying to shut a suitcase. And then Jen and Ryan talk on FaceTime and Gina sits with Emily and talk about, so they talk about Travis. Conveniently now that Gina has been given the heads up that Heather's mad at

her, that has given Gina a chance to prepare her defense, which is Travis is texting me and I'm just like, I'm sad. Like everything will be really good and then I'll have like a sort of emotions And then like oh, that's all getting out of way You know like right now I feel like the weight of the world on my shoulders And I'm like worrying about seven other people's feelings plus two fucking dogs not Travis But you know other people's feelings. It's way too much. Just like a pressure cooker for me So now she's already building in

Why she's not the bad guy here or her way, her get out of jail free car, which is like, there's a lot going on in her life. Her family's falling apart. Oh my God, yeah, that's Gina. I mean, man, she's really desperate if she's bringing the dogs into it. I'm worried about seven people feeling plus two dogs.

I feel it. Woof. Bing. So then Katie's talking to Matt and she's like, I'm actually looking forward to the day. Gina went around telling everybody I was a liar and he's like, I thought team Gina seemed like a no brainer, but wow, Gina's playing games. Yeah. She's playing games with my fucking emotions. Wow. I love when you say fucking babe. So hot when you're mad. I'm so fired up right now. You're so furious. I'm so furious. Well, we're going to go back to a place called Russian river vineyards. And I'll let you know when I got on the plane, if I make it good luck. So, while Heather has in her room, there is just like such a mess.

It's just a disaster. And she has an assistant there and she's like, okay, you clean this up. I'm going to Russian River. You're in charge. I'm gonna call the car. And it's just funny because when this episode began, they said previously and they showed the scene where Heather's like, I wrap everything in tissue paper. So I thought that was going to come back. Like I thought like it was going to come out and they were going to make fun of

her for it. And it never is relevant to this entire episode, but I, what I loved about it was in this moment, we see all the shit sprawled out on the floor. And that little clip in the previously is a reminder that like, we're not going to see it and it's not mentioned, but someone's going to have to sit there on the floor and wrap every single thing into tissue paper for the next hour and a half. Oh yeah. I saw the funniest tweet that was like, uh,

we know the only time Heather actually wraps this is when she's showing one of her servants how to do it for her. She's like, she only does it in training, you know? So then Alexis, basically now they're doing their activities and Alexis is like, the last time I rode a bike, I mean, I go to spin class, but that's stationary. I ride other things now. Funlexy, Funlexy. So yeah, the bike, they get on these bikes. I'm sure John Jansen's a whole lot of exercise. So yeah, the bike, they, they get on these bikes.

I'm sure John Janssen's a whole lot of exercise. I know, right? That guy, that guy really looks, that guy really looks like a CrossFit class. So they are biking along and they're biking and they're biking and they're biking and they're making jokes and they arrive at Russian River vineyards and they basically sit down at this table. Okay. And now they, we can finally get to their big confrontation. So it starts with pleasantries and Gina's like, guys, I have to say, I think this was a beautiful trip. And I'm like a little upset. I almost feel bad because I know whatever is happening between you, Katie and Heather,

was circling back on it now. And like, you want to take the lead on this? Sure. Well, Gina, I heard you've been calling me a liar. Yeah. And then we see flashbacks of that. Well, I don't appreciate that because I'm not lying about it. I was like, why do you have loving in me and this?

I do not understand why. She goes, first of all, Gina, I did lie. But you're lying about this. That doesn't matter. It does matter, because there's a timeline and it matters. And you're lying about this, and what you're doing, Katie, is not right. And I'm not okay with it,

because I brought you in to be my friend into this group, and you're bullshit, and she's not my bullshit, and I don't like it. You better stop it right now. If you got a problem with Heather, and she got a problem with you, you guys better address it right now, because we addressed this, Heather. You better stop it right now. If you got a problem with Heather and she got a problem with you, you guys better address it right now because we addressed this Heather. I apologize to you Heather.

Like so, she's so mad and looking completely 100% guilty. I know. And she's like yelling at Heather. She's like, I apologize to you. Why are you yelling at me? I'm the wealthy one here. Well, I was just, I was very honest about it because I'm like really upset about this and I feel terrible about it and I was wrong and I was wrong and I'm already Apologized for it, but the new information is that you apparently told Katie that the only reason you keep me close Is because of my real estate connections She never said that I've never heard her say that ever, ever, ever.

Yeah, I've never heard it. This girl is just making shit up. And so she's like, she's making shit up, you know, what is this girl talking about? And what real estate connections, you know? I could use friends on my side right now because like, obviously, Travis, I had to move away and then I had to make our bedrooms different sizes for kids like I've been hanging curtains in the middle of rooms it's been so hard. My entire relationship is on the brink right now because I kicked my boyfriend out of my

house and now my boyfriend's not in my house anymore you know how long that is? It's like really lonely in that boot. I'm gonna lose everything. Heather's just like, oh for crying out loud there are more tin cans in the world to shake. Katie you're a liar you're lying right now so prove it bring your receipts prove all your proves. She's like I can't prove because that we had phone conversations. I know I really wasn't on for my business. I don't need Heather to make my way. I need Elizabeth Vargas, okay? Come on.

You're accusing me of using the wrong rich person. Yes, seriously. And Katie's like, well, she's helping you with the altments. She's like, I'm not going to work for the fucking Altman. They wouldn't take me. So Emily's like, I just can't even imagine that coming out of her mouth. She doesn't say things like that. Like, Gina would literally say something like that.

It's so like, I get a hundred percent here Gina saying it. Yeah. I think, I think, like I said earlier that she was saying it like, I mean, she's rich. I'm not fucking with her. She runs this town, you know? And so, um, let's see. She's just yelling and screaming and so pissed off about it. And Chamer is like, um, Gina, honestly, you're being so defensive. You look guilty. All right. I know how to read people's eye faces now. I have some trailers. I know how to read people's eye faces now. Do you have asthma? So Gina's like, well, I'm being passionate because it's important to me. I do believe Gina. When confronted, she did tell me everything. Things she didn't need

to tell me. Things I wish she hadn't told me. Stuff about Travis's penis. Talk about gather signs and poofs that she found in a place called Marshall's. I don't know who Marshall is, but he sounds like he has terrible taste. What's a poof? What's a poof? And which child is being called that? Because I will rescue them right away. And Tamra's, Gina's like, I can't even my world's so fucked up right now. And Tamra's like, I'll preach. The world's not fucked up. Are you talking about? No it is. It is?

Nah. Not fucked up. I get to decide who's in pain in this world, okay? You're not gay! At least you're not an alcoholic like Shannon! Can we talk about Shannon? Gina's like, no, you have no fucking idea, okay? You know what's really hurting this situation? Alexis! Alexis, cry about that, stupid! So there's like, so Gina's, Jen's like, Gina, I'll take the bait.

What's wrong? We don't know. If you don't talk to us about it, do you want to deflect right now? You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it.

You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. So there's like, so Gina's, Jen's like, Gina, I'll take the bait. What's wrong? We don't know. If you don't talk to us about it, do you want to deflect right now? You can deflect. Tell us. And Heather's like, well, what don't we know? What don't we know already? And Gina's like, when you're a fucker. And Tim is like, why? She's like, because you've been harsh. Am I a bad person because I like Katie? She still likes you. Yeah. and this is just how the show works. And Gina is such a beta because and I hate using that word, but she really is such a BB because she is all she's like, she's not going to get on Tamra. Tamra is the one who did all of this. As usual,

Tamra started this whole fucking thing with Heather and got Heather all mad, blah, blah, blah. She's always stirring it. And Heather's being a fucking asshole too, doubting her and listening to some rando from the golf network. But the only one that she can be mad at is Katie because Katie has no power. Yeah. So Gina basically tells him, she's like, it's just been a sacrifice that we don't live together, but like I could do it. And I'm like freaking out because he's like not going to be able to work through his stuff. And then he's like not going to be able to stay in it.

And like taking space from Travis was the right decision for like all of us. And like the divorce is like intense. So it's been hard for Travis. And I'm just feeling extremely guilty. And I'm just like trying to allow him that all his feelings. And I hope this doesn't break us. And we see a clip of them a couple of months ago and she's like, how you feeling, Trav?

And he's like, I feel overwhelmed. How you feeling, Tramp? And he's like, I feel overwhelmed. I just feel like there's like, there's just like a lot to figure out. Tell me about it. I'm gonna put a load bearing column where you're standing right now. So much construction.

Listen, no one is more load bearing than me right now in my life. I'm bearing so much load. I'm like literally building a new closet onto this kitchen. Like, you know how like some people have like a champagne room? I have a ragu room. Um, and so she's like, and the last thing I need is someone spreading bullshit lies about me, especially from a girl who I thought was my friend. And Katie's like, Oh my God, Gina, you're going to make me cry.

She's like, Oh my God, is it because Travis is sad? So I'm sad, you know, it's like how it works. Like where Travis has a good place to live, like, you're going to make me cry. She's like, Oh my God, why is because Travis, I'm sad, you know, it's like how it works. Like where Travis has a good place to live, like I have a good place. Oh, wait a minute. No, that's not true. No, but it still works to see that, though. It still works to see it. So can we bury it?

Yeah, I can bury it. Like, the thing is that, like, I mean, I'm with you already. So like, stop. No, you stop and stop hitting me. I'm like weak. You both stop. OK, let stop and stop hitting me. I'm like weak. You both stop. Okay, let's focus on the real villain here, Shannon. If Shannon weren't drunk, it wouldn't be,

it wouldn't be a thing. Oh my God, I lost internet. Oh my God, bitch. My internet went out right at the end. Hello? Are you back? Oh, thank God. Oh my gosh, we froze.

That was Shannon's fault. Oh my God, my Botox is finally working again. I just feel like if Shannon weren't drinking, that wouldn't have happened. Streamy odds and alcoholic, bitch. So basically- So yeah, now that it looks like they're kind of making up and Heather's like, anyway, thank you so much for being here. We're all wheels up at four, which means we gotta hit the road. Shannon is not here so we can't make hit the road jokes. Does anyone wanna make a crumbling house comment?

Anybody? Anybody? Wheels up at four, which means that's when I get onto a plane and you guys carry some wheels back to Orange County. Here's a bus. Well, basically it's funny because where this all wound up is that Heather forgets Gina,

because Gina basically was like, Oh my God, like, you're so important. No, I would never, I would never do that. And, and Heather still does not like Katie because Heather feels like Katie's not owning up to anything, which is actually also true by the way. So in the end, like she just wanted Gina to be uncomfortable and to grovel, which she did. And Katie is still in the doghouse with Heather Dubrow. Yeah. And I think kind of what the audience too, because like you're really trying too hard and you're getting nothing, you know, you're going to have to, if you're going to come

for Dubrow, you're going to have to come a little harder. Yeah. I mean, I think that I think Katie's saving grace to me is that like, there's bigger fish to fry in this show. So I'm not like, I'm not like, Oh, Katie, I'm just like, Oh, this is, we need to move on from this storyline though. And I think they, I think this is the end of it. Yeah, I'm definitely not a hater at this point, but I'm, um, I don't know. It's like watching somebody, it's like watching an American Idol audition that fails, but it just keeps going. It's like, guys, this is why we added her out. You know what I mean? Move her out and bring someone else

in because I don't think this is working out. Was his name William Shin? But we'll see. Was his name the guy? William Hung? Yeah. And he still made that work. But you know, those were, again, that was like an epic failure that was great. It's like a Sanjaya or someone like that. He's like a great,

you still know that name. I don't think Katie's going to have that same thing, but who knows? You know, maybe, maybe she'll, I mean, I think, I don't know, go to a bootcamp or something and learn, learn to do it better. I mean, but what I will say is that's what I do like about it. And this is my final point before we wrap up. What I do like is that the stupid Katie thing like is that the stupid Katie thing then has created, has been a stressor on Heather and Geno's relationship. So I always like when one fight turns into something bigger and something more fundamental and profound, as profound as these things can be. So there was some upside. I enjoyed Heather making Gen Gina's Swarm. That was very, very, very fun for me to watch. Well, I'm glad you had fun. Thanks.

In general, I was loving it. It's fun season. And it was a fun week for us. So thank you so much, everybody, for being here. If you thought the bonus episode was below deck this week, well, guess what? That is now on the main feed and we just did another bonus episode. This one was actually epic because it was Ben reading his city online reviews about things. It was amazing. You need to go check it out. It's so good. Also, go look at the real secret lives of Mormon wives recaps. Salt Lake City comes back next week. It's going to be super busy here coming up and we sure love you guys. We'll talk to you next time. Okay? Bye.

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