Watch What Crappens - #2575 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives 0104: The Wicked Snitch

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

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This is do they say where they're going? They just will. All we hear is that they're going to a penthouse. Then it turns out that they wind up going to a penthouse in Park City. I don't know. I assumed they were already in Salt Lake City. They're in Provo. They're in Provo.

I think they're in Provo. Yeah, because I was about to say that in all their scenes, nothing looks like Salt Lake City. So if they're in Provo, that makes sense. I have no idea where Provo is in relationship to Salt Lake City. I'm going to look at a map right now. Um, okay.

Well, it's important to see, we start with the Macy's. She's like, I'm really excited because we're planning a girls trip for my birthday. It's we're going to stay in this really nice little penthouse and we're going to have a girls weekend. Like, I mean, you know, there's like, um, a sense of baby blessing. There's like sinners and then there's saints, like there's a good girls and there's bad girls, so let's see how that goes. Sinners and saints don't typically get along very well.

That's Joseph Smith. It didn't really work out that well from a lot of fire bombing, as I recall. So awkward. Just hope it doesn't happen in the penthouse because it's under my name. Yeah. So I'm really hoping that by the end of this trip, we will be one united group again, which is hilarious because the first rule of reality TV group trips is that you are more fragmented than ever before by the time you get out of them.

It's also kind of the rule against religion. I mean, I don't know if you've noticed, but like every religion is like, we're the only one and every other religion sucks and you're going to hell. If you, they don't all claim you're going to hell if you don't believe in them, but they all claim that theirs is the one. So I mean, as much as religion preaches unity, et cetera, et cetera, everyone's like unity amongst us, but fuck those other bitches.

So they're driving and everything. And Macy's like, she's talking to Whitney, she's like, how's it going to be with seeing Taylor? And Whitney's like, it's talking to Whitney. She's like, how's it gonna be with seeing Taylor? And Whitney's like, it's gonna be a boxing match. Like ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, like who's gonna win? And then she's like boxing. She's like, by the way, these are also the moves I learned from my RSV video with my baby. And Macy's like, well, she's pregnant.

So you can't really box with her. And she goes, oh yeah, I forgot she's pregnant. I forgot, I mean sue me so I can't hit a pregnant person. So then the other car sinners it's it's Demi, Jesse Taylor and Michaela. Just saying that list of names just makes me laugh just inherently. And they're talking about like getting there first and getting first dibs on rooms and Demi is like Taylor, I feel like you're kind of quiet right now. Cause normally your mouth is full of all sorts of

trash box things. And Taylor's like, yeah, I'm anxious, like very anxious. I'm going to pop my anxiety meds when we get there. And I was like, Oh my God, Taylor. That is hilarious. I love that. Her baby's going to just come out smoking a dupe. It's gonna be like the most relaxed. With the same hair, the same hair that's like doing the Kate Gosselin. Most relaxed. Like why does your baby never cry? It was basically in the womb taking anti-anxiety medication.

So it's totally fine. Taylor says, if there's like any confrontation, like you're stuck with that person for the weekend like yeah, you can't just leave I'm like you guys are in Park City, Utah In the middle of the Mojave Desert you can just leave okay? Patient guys were not on wagons anymore. I mean shit even back then I'll bet some pioneer ladies were like do you know what fuck you? I'm out of here giddy up Slowly slow the wh horse wagon away you turn like

hold on I have to tie up my horse stop looking at me while I tie up my horse there goes Sarah playing in tall Frankie Paul backing up her horse again uh so um Taylor's like it feels really good to be back with the girls. I've really missed the girls. I've missed the friendship of mom talks and I'm really grateful that they've like given me a second chance, but I'm like anxious like about this girls trip because like I have hard conversations I need to have with me. They're going to be so hard.

They're going to be almost as hard as most of the husbands were in our swinging circle. Well, they weren't really that hard. They were soft as per the term. Yeah, it's a hard conversation. Like, why didn't you come to my baby shower? Such a hard conversation. She goes, yeah, I want to know why she didn't come to my baby shower and like, why there's this elephant in the room and I want to see where she's coming from. But seriously, there's like an elephant in the room. Is this, is this the anxiety medication? I'm seeing all sorts of animals around me right now. Are we in Safari?

And Demi is like, just know this Taylor, if things get wild, I got your back. She goes, oh really? That's sweet of you, I guess. So then Demi is like, yeah, I'm still mad at Whitney. So like first, the fruity cereal incident and then her becoming the victim. And then we see the flashback of Demi opening the cereal and then the other girls laughing at Galentine's Day. Well, tensions are high and I have a surprise coming later.

So this weekend should be pretty interesting. OK, you know what? Oh, when they talk about a surprise on this show, it's like, guys, I got us all Snickers bars. Oh, my God. This is what I'm talking about. Guys, it's one of those boxy things of Starbucks. What? Oh my God, because I told her that my husband thinks my vagina smells like Starbucks.

I'll never forgive her. Okay, so people are arriving at girls weekend and of course there's a lot of, well, well, because according to reality TV, that's just what girls do when they arrive at places. Like if you've ever seen The Bachelor and they walk into the house, everybody runs in screaming, well, or if you see a brother, men and women run into the house screaming, well. It's like everybody has been without a home

for months at a time. It's the first time they've seen running water or roof. Very, very excited. In this case, it's really hilarious because they are just in like a modestly decorated Airbnb penthouse. It's nice. There's like nice furniture, but they're all acting as if they live like in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory apartment. And like you guys all have McMansions. This is actually smaller than your home and they're like oh my god a sofa from Ashley furniture. I'm so excited for the substandard sleeping experience. I can't wait to sleep on the floor when I could be at home sleeping in my bed.

So um let's see, sorry. So Jessie asked Demi, she goes, so do you and Brett ever fight? And Demi's like, well, we're currently in a little bit of a disagreement just over the whole Fruity Pebbles thing. Oh my God, you're not allowed to say Fruity Pebbles on the show.

You just branded it. They specifically told us, call it a fruit cereal. I'm sorry, I'm here to serve Demi's vagina with a cease and desist order. Bam Bam, what are you doing here? So she's like, yeah, I mean, he wasn't like a prude about it. He was just like, I get it. I want you to be excited. Like, I want you to be able to talk about stuff, but I don't want to have to like second

guess what I'm going to do in the bedroom because you're going to go tell people. So he's not mad that her vagina smells like pretty pebbles. He's mad that she talked about sitting on his face. Well, well, because remember, she tricked him into talking about in front of all the girls. He did. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. I think it's a legitimate complaint on his end. So Demi, I mean, I guess, I hate sometimes doing this. We get pulled into arguments. Like I just don't care. Not that this

is an argument, but like we get pulled into having an opinion on shit. Like I don't care. You know, like I don't care. I have no opinion. So Demi goes, you know what? I take full accountability that I'm the one that opened that can of worms, but it does bother me the way that Whitney went about that. It just felt like a little tacky to me. And Jesse's like, yeah, I could tell you were upset. Like, wow, congratulations, Jesse, as you have eyes and ears.

What was it? Was it when I said I'm really upset? I don't know, it wasn't that. I could just tell. Was it when I threw the fruity pebbles at Whitney and said, get the fuck out of my face, you bitch? No, it was just like, it was just like an air of, it was just like an energy you have. Wow. You know, is, you know, is Whitney level headed enough to

have that conversation with like, how is that conversation going to go? And Jesse's like, well, Michaela, you know, her best and poor Michaela is like, um, I, I, I don't know. I don't know why I got lumped in with the sinners with the strip. I'm one of the good guys. Yeah. And Michaela's offense sitter, you know, have you noticed that Michaela acts one way she acts like she's like, Oh my God, Whitney, that is so hilarious. But now that she's with the other girl, she's like, yeah, she sucks because they're like, well, Whitney is just going to be offended. She says, yeah, well,

maybe she should stop doing things then. Oh yeah. Michaela. Well, maybe you should fucking stop sitting on the sidelines and cheering her on. It's like you're cheering her on, but when the football team loses, you're like, well, maybe you shouldn't play football anymore. You were literally just cheering them on. Michaela came up falling for this crap. Lady Whitney is at least an outwardly bad friend. Michaela is a secretly bad friend.

So Michaela's like Whitney's been one of my really good friends for two years now. Now that's like 10 percent of my life. She likes to think that she's self-aware, but she doesn't take accountability a lot of the time. And she's like, yeah, even I would have been like, hey, sorry. I'm sorry to send you a message about not coming to your shower. Like, I don't know. Like. She's such a fucking bitch.

Am I right? God, everyone hates Whitney. So Demi's like, yeah. I can't wait to have Whitney when she gets here. Look at Michaela. Yeah, Whitney's the best. You know, it's really, she's the best. So Demi's like, the fact that she can go about life

and go about those situations just like unbothered, that just like makes me nervous and Taylor's like I'm honestly surprised to hear that people have issues with Whitney. I thought like I was maybe the only one on the outside of it with her, but we work together. We do lots of events together. Okay. You can't like stand in front of your cell phone camera and shake your fist around in a dance without Whitney being there. We're all in it together. MomTalk needs her. Okay. And I'm really hoping that we can hash this out. I don't need Whitney to like me, but I need Whitney's likes to like me. Does that make

sense? It's like, this is business. Okay. Whitney sucks, but she's got a lot of fucking followers and what am I supposed to just twerk to my own followers? Like, how am I going to grow? I need Whitney people, followers. So then the other girls arrive and guess what they do? So they come running through the penthouse and then they have like streamers and stuff. They're like, oh, my God, there's streamers. You guys, is this a sin? I don't know. And there's like lots of like everything seems fun.

Everyone's getting along. Whitney got everyone matching sweats that say mom talk, except for Taylor's. Hers just says slut. And they all. Sorry, they ran out of mom talk farms. I'm so sorry. Yours, they messengers that they misspelled it. What does it say like mom, take messed yours up. They misspelled it. What does it say? Like mom tick? Judas. It's just Judas. Weird.

They ran out of M's, O's, T's, and K's. So they couldn't spell mom talk. So I just had them say stupid. So now it's like jacuzzi time, but it's snowing, which is really crazy. And we've never seen this on shows about Salt Lake City before. So they're like, Oh, my god, let's go in the bikini. Let's go in swimsuits. But it's like snowing outside. So they all go, well, well, they run outside and they get in the hot tub. And they're like, we should go in right now. Yeah, we should go in. It's really cold. Let's go in now. And they all run in.

And then they shower in their bikinis. And they're like, Oh, my god, I feel like a little girl again. I was like, really, this is the thing that makes you feel like a little girl again. I was like, really? This is the thing that makes you feel like a little girl. Have you guys watched your show yet? Like guys, let's get started. So, um, maybe I haven't been swinging this much

since I was a little girl. I mean, that was on actual swings, but still. You're making it creepy now. Gene is that only soft swings. So I would not sit on a swing that was wooden. So... The salacious conversations they have in this town, they're literally talking about the swings.

Swing sets. It turns out this entire scandal is just about swing sets. We were all swinging with each other's husbands. Oh my God. Did you guys push each other so hard that you almost made a loop around the pole? No one has ever done that. Stop peddling untruths. One time I pushed my sister's swing so hard that she flew into the moon.

That did not happen. Stop it. I just want to say it does not count as swinging if you go to the carnival and get on the swings. That's a totally different type of swing. So, um, Jesse and Jen are talking and Jesse's like, so is like Jack with your kids, Jen and Jen's like, yeah. And she's like, Okay, well, how's he feeling about being alone with the kids? That's like crazy. A man being alone with children. Oh, my God. Jordan's probably like freaking out. He's like, Oh, my God, are any of the Danny's available? And I'm like, you're fine.

He's like, we need to do shots. Kids, you want to do shots? The kids need to do shots. The kids aren't doing shots. The kids are really wussies, honey. And Jen's like, stop it. So he's like, not really the stay at home dad right now. And Jesse's like, no, I mean, he is,

but I could never like see him just being at home 24 seven because I mean, would Zach ever do that? And Jen's like, No, we definitely still have like our tough days. We're like, we just aren't on the same page. You know, he doesn't want me to speak. And I'm like, but it's three o'clock, I'm allowed to say my five words of the day. And he's like, No, guess what? I've revoked those words. So it's like, Oh, so we're like a little bit not on the same page about that. You know, it happens. Like in his head, he thinks, you know, like after like 15 years, he'll be the provider. So he's like, my job is more important, because I'm not going to be providing for us for life, even though you're providing for us temporarily. But

like, how long is tiktok gonna last? Like, medical field lasts forever. But you know, it's just gonna take them about 15, between 15 and 20 years to graduate. So that'll come to fruition any minute now. So I'm just going to let him control everything until then. Yeah. You know, Joseph Smith said the best thing you can do is put your dreams on hold for 15 years while your husband might get his career together. I just, this relationship really bothers me. It really, really bothered.

And look, I get it. It's like a different culture and it's hard. It's like we're, we're talking about a show that's a completely different culture that I'm used to, but here's what generally I do not stand for in any culture, really in any culture ever on earth. There's not one that I think this is okay. Where men are the boss and women have to be subservient and listen, I don't care.

I don't care if it's your culture, I don't care if it's some fucking book, it's a bunch of bullshit and you guys need to get over it. Okay? Yeah. We know Targaryens, they get a little crazy. So Jen is like, I'm currently the breadwinner in my relationship.

I mean, unless you include Ben Affleck in that, he is our second cousin after all. And I'm providing for my kids and my husband to go to medical school. And I definitely think this is like super hard for him coming from a traditional, very wealthy family. I think- You know what would be harder for him?

Working while he's going to school. So maybe he should shut the fuck up and be grateful. And you know what another layer of this too is knowing like the surgeon son is being supported by the like the the main the main wife community is meaning my daughter yeah like that's like you know that that family is not cool with this whatsoever like there's no way our son our star son our future star surgeon is having his bills paid for by the cleaning lady. Well, they're not paying them. So I'm sure that they're fine with it. The dad's not

paying it. So I mean, that's the other thing. Like, why isn't the dad paying for it? Why does the wife have to pay for it? You're the surgeon, sir. You should be supporting your son through this shit is like this is where we draw the line with Nepal babies. Come on. Exactly. I'm sorry. I just get the I've said this last night on crappy hour. But for those who don't listen to that, I actually felt guilty after talking about it. So I'm going to repeat it now so I can feel guilty again. This guy is 100 percent going to get that medical license, go through all that after you supported him,

and then he's going to cheat on you with the younger mama and leave you. I can't I just about saying that you're just telling the truth. I don't know. Cause this girl's like, seems so nice and it feels like I'm attacking this girl and I'm not attacking this girl. I'm just saying this guy sucks. And I wish that sometimes on TV, these people could see how much your guy sucks. Like the audience can see how much your guy sucks.

She came out with this big thing we read last night on crappy art. So go listen to it. And it's a, this big Instagram post sticking up for him and being like, come on, guys, I love him. Don't be mean to my husband. We're mean to your husband because he sucks. He's a horrible fucking human being and he's a controlling asshole. And that's not editing girl. Run, listen to your people. Okay. Well, Jen has this for you. She has this piece of insight for you, Ronnie. The male typically being the sole provider within our

religion makes our situation a little bit tricky. And so there's definitely a lot of tension in our relationship. It's so funny because so much of the show is like, mom talk is showing the world what the modern Mormon wife is like. And she takes, she, she, she has to listen to her husband. It's like, really? Have we, have we moved the needle that much? So she's like, I mean, I used to be the person that would just say yes to everything, but now I don't, which we haven't seen yet. We haven't seen her say no yet, but Jesse's like,

yeah, you're finding your voice. And she goes, yeah. And you know what? I'm like, I'm proud of it. I'm like, shoot, you better be making a lot of money by then, just kidding, just kidding. See, I had my voice, but then I also used my voice to take back what I said proud of it. I'm like, shoot, you better be making a lot of money by then. Just kidding, just kidding. See, I had my voice, but then I also used my voice to take back what I said.

You know what I mean? Like I took it, but I took it back. I said it, but I took it back. So sorry, sorry. I used my voice to say that to you, so it counts. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial. Hey, it's Guy Raz here,

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because Jen is very welcoming. And she really thought initially that Zach put his foot down, but now Jessie somehow is feeling optimistic that their friendship, it can move forward now. Like I guess she's in her mind decided that like, no, this was all Zach's fault. It wasn't Jen's fault. Well, I think it's like we,

when we were watching that last episode, I thought that it was her too. I thought she was like, fuck that girl. She took shots in the hot tub. I'm not inviting her and then blamed it on her husband. But then we saw the husband come on the phone being like, no, I don't want them there. Yeah.

It's like my party and like asserting control over her friends and stuff. So yeah, I think she's just having that moment that we had last week. Well, Jen goes, you know, by the time he's done with medical school, I'll probably be making more money than he'll ever make. Ha ha ha ha ha.

I was like, oh, you better be careful. You're about to get like locked in the bedroom for three days with that comment. Once he hears it. Yikes. So Jesse's like, Oh my god, like, no, literally isn't that funny? Like you're like my side gig like actually like provides for us. And she goes, No, like literally. Like literally. So then there's a guy in the kitchen making them

some food. Oh my god, there's a guy in the kitchen making them some food. Oh my God. There's a man cooking for us. This is against my religion. It was like, no, we're modern Mormons. We're allowed to have men cook for us. Wait a minute. We can let the man cook. It just says in the Bible that we need to thank him. Thank you. Thank you for- So then the girls are like figuring out what they're going to wear for this evening. And Jen goes, Oh my God, I forgot my garments. And Demi goes, Oh my god. Oh, everyone, by the way, I have some information. The Garment Queen forgot her garments. Everyone's like, Oh my god,

Jen forgot her garments. Stupid, stupid Jen, wear your garments. Hey, Jen, everyone here who has garments, raise your hand. Sorry, Jen. And Jen's like, literally, I'm dead. Because you know, the reason I wear garments, besides the fact that my husband makes me is that when you go through the temple, or when you get married, and you've committed to this person, you've committed to God, like wearing them is supposed to be like a constant reminder for you daily. Every time you have to take off your skirt, and then take off your long johns to go pee. You're like, God, I love God. I just love people who don't love God pee way too easily. That's what I say. Um, Demi is like, everyone attention, attention. And then they're all, they're still just like

razzling on her being like, Jen forgot her her garments and Jen's like, well, I tried them last minute. I'm sorry. So Jeff, that means like, yeah, well, she forgot because she knew there was gonna be a male chef coming like, yeah, you want to get slutty, Jen, you want to go on the swing set with that chef, don't you? And it may see says, she's like, Oh, my god, it was stuff like single, right? Is the chef like single? Where are my garments?

I don't know, I forgot them. You guys, well, it might be time to pump anyways. And like, wait, did you bring any underwear? She goes, no, I literally forgot all my underwear and all my garments. I can't believe this happened when there's a man here. I'm like, oh my God, like you don't literally have anything? She's like, literally nothing. Like, oh my God, like you don't literally have anything. She's like, literally nothing.

And like, oh my God, can you door dash garments? Probably, I would imagine that yes. I'm surprised it's not like garment dash in Utah. There's gotta be some social services that you can call and be like, oh my God, there's a male chef and she doesn't have garments. Please send them over here. You're saving someone from eternal life

in the outer darkness. There's gotta be. I once ordered a paper cutter on Instagram and I got it in like 25 minutes. So if I can get a paper cutter, you can definitely get garments in Utah. I've been having drama with Home Depot because they can't put my washer and dryer together because they don't send a stacking kit with a stacking washer and dryer kit, which is fucking idiotic. So I had to order it separately and they keep forgetting. It's been six times they tried to deliver. I swear to you, six literal times that they tried to deliver it. And they always forget the stacking kit that I've already paid for.

And they're charging me a $40 delivery fee for the point is finally, I went on the Internet on the Internet and search for it to see if I could get it locally. Guess where I can get it from door dash door. Stacking it. Yes, it wasn't at Home Depot. It wasn't at Lowe's. It was at DoorDash. They brought it.

I don't even know what a stacking kit is. When you stack a washer and a dryer on top of each other, apparently it requires a large piece of plastic thing to put them on top. Now, why they don't send that to you with the actual washer and dryer. I don't know. That makes no sense. How does that not come with the washer and dryer? How is that not just like included in the box?

Idiotic, idiotic. But basically I got caught without my garments on and DoorDash fixed it. So you know what? I may not believe in your stupid, you know, anybody's stupid religion. I shouldn't call your religion stupid. It's not more stupid than anybody else's religion.

But I should call myself stupid. Because at the end of the day, you know who I believe in? Tordache. Well, Rami, I've got some good news. While you were doing that rant about the stacking unit, et cetera. I've just ordered to ask you some garments. So get ready in about 10 minutes. Oh my God.

I could not wear garments. I would be thrown out of this religion in two seconds because when I have to pee, it's just come, like it's gonna come out. There's no, especially if I know that there's a toilet. I can hold my pee for like an hour in the car, but the second I walk in, it's like my wiener has location services turned on and it knows there's a toilet there and it's like I'm

peeing right now. You either pull me out and make it happen or it's coming down your leg. Do you have to I guess if you that ever happened to you like your wiener knows the toilets there. It's like, okay, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. For five hours, my entire, my entire body when I'm getting near a toilet. And if I'm like, if I have to poop,

it's like, all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, stupid happening. I'm saying it happens in all senses or vomit. It's like the moment, you know, it's gonna blow. But with the garments, do you have to have like, do you have to have like a whole set? Like you can't obviously wear the same garments day in, day out, right? You have to have- Yeah, you have to have a couple.

They all have to be white. Can there be different colors? I think they're all white, yeah. I mean, I've only seen it in porn, honestly, but they're usually white. I've seen it on porn and big love and it's always white. Okay. I definitely saw it in SLC when we were at the airport

in SLC and we were waiting for our next flight to wherever. First of all, I've never seen so many children at an airport. I didn't think anything could top the Orlando airport for having more children, but then you go to the SLC airport and it's just all these little blonde babies. Like it's just like packs upon packs upon packs.

I mean, it's just like, you've just never seen so many children. And I noticed there were a lot of, there were a lot of men and you could see it. I didn't see it as much with the women because they're wearing flowier things, but the men would be wearing shirts and you'd see the outline of the garments through their shirts all over, which was fascinating to me. I was like, Ooh, garments. Seen in real life. Yeah. It wasn't actually that interesting to be honest, but I just wanted to share a little piece of my life experience. Different, you know, it's like people know that they see me because they see my garments. I mean,

my garments are old Navy, but still they can recognize them. They're like, it's a Rondo. What if someone just shows up with a garment? They're like, I got the garment guys. I'm like, no, that's- They see me, they're like, Rondel's wearing his garments. He worships old Navy and dominance. You're doing great. And they whisper like that because it's religious. Okay. So anyway, they're still making fun of Jen about her garments, but she's now made a big public thing. And now it's dinner and chef Ricardo's cooking. And to me he's like who's saying the prayer oh my god you better pray for jen's garments so um so jen does the prayer she's

like dear heavenly father we are so grateful for this day and for my garments wherever they are we're so grateful for this time that we could spend together. Um, please bless his food. It will give us strength in our bodies and that we have an amazing weekend. Also, please bless my husband that he gets through medical school a little faster than he's scheduled because I really want to get back onto tick tock. Okay. I say these things in the name of the Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. So now they eat and, um, Whitney's pouring yourself something pink and they're like, Oh my God, Whitney, are you drinking rose? And she goes, It is. You want to taste? Were they? Was she kidding or not? I think she was kidding because she doesn't remember when she like tasted champagne.

She was like, Oh, gross. Oh, right. Her first time ever. Yeah. Tasting champagne. Also, Whitney dresses now even more in every single scene, more like she's in Big Love. It's like she really dresses like pioneer days. Do you think that that's a normal thing that Whitney does or do you think that that's her thing? Like, I'm gonna be the most Mormony on this show. Cause some of it looks like that doesn't even fit you.

Like, why are you dressed like paintings of Marie Antoinette? Like she's wearing like big clown collars and I don't know. I feel like she's cosplaying a little bit. She has strange ruffles in places, big, happy shoulder pads. I'm like, why are you dressing like one of my sewing class experiments? Yeah, none of it fits, right?

She looks like- And I'm not even making fun of like the religious clothes for people who are getting all bent out of shape about it. I just mean they look like it just looks like someone thinks that that's what Mormas dress like. I'm like, what are you a French clown? Nobody dresses like that. You're not going to tell me that anybody dresses like this. I don't believe it. You're not Chloe Sivigne's character in Big Love. Just stop. So they do a toast to Macy because it's her birthday and Macy's congratulating herself. She's like, I'm happy because things look like they're going good so far. So I think

we're all just like hoping it stays that way. I'm like, yeah, sure. What could go wrong? You're just trapped in a house with Whitney, you know? So they do a, they do another show. They do like a million toasts for Macy. And when he goes, okay. Oh, Taylor says, by the way, should we go around and do an I love you because like, oh my God, let's do an I love you because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when he goes, okay, I love me see because I know I could tell her absolutely anything and she wouldn't judge me for it. Unlike the rest of you bitches.

Or you or with me. She's like, which I would never do. I don't really understand that or why you would do that, but she does it. So that she wouldn't one up me with a miscarriage story. Whoops. Did I just say that're like actually like we're not similar. Wow. Well, we're actually opposite, but like we're similar, but like totally different, but like we're like the same, but not the same. It makes it California land of sinners. She's okay. It's like, what a sweet, what a sweet test. So to me is like, um, you're just like genuinely yourself.

And I think you're amazing. And Taylor's like, you're just like genuinely yourself. And I think you're amazing. And Taylor's like, you're plant. You just say it how it is to people's faces. And some people would call that bitchy. And everyone's like, Taylor, bitchy. I can't believe she just said that word. She goes, but actually I really like it. And Macy's like, you know what?

I love all of you. Thank you for being here. I'm glad we could all come together at last. My favorite thing to do, which is to eat. I'm like, wait, so we're just going to only tell Macy why we all love her. No one else gets to find out what they love. I guess so. Yeah, it's her birthday test. Yeah. She's like, guys, I'm just glad we could all come together. It's been a long time since we were swinging So then Demi is like guys. I have something for you all. Okay. I have a little activity So I was like, oh my god an activity. Are we gonna like find Jen's garments? Like no, no, no

No, it's like a real activity. So Demi comes back with a box and she goes, okay everyone I brought a truth box, which is, I don't think a truth box is a thing, but sure. It's a housewives game. She's like, we are gonna play a real housewives game. Okay, I'm gonna be in charge. Okay, everybody take out a piece of paper. Whitney, why are you such a horrible human being?

And why would I want you to be on fire right now until you died? Cause you're a hateful bitch, that's the answer. Okay, everybody, it's gonna be fun. That was just an example. Don't worry. This is full 100% honesty tonight, except for, you're not allowed to say

who wrote what question. Okay, so I'm hoping we're able to, we're gonna be able to share. And if there's existing tension, we're able to be honest and work through those things. And the best way to be honest is to hide through anonymity with a little box and some scraps of paper. And Jesse Jizz is like, oh my God, I'm gonna die.

Like this sucks, because like this group is like friends, but like they're not. And when he's like, this is so stupid, like an anonymous truth box, really? If you really want to tell someone the truth, say it to their face. And if the truth, say it to their face. And if you can't say it to their face, make a TikTok video about it with your baby.

Also Whitney, who's literally not saying anything to Taylor's face. Not saying anything. Not showing up places. I'm not confronting it at all. So then Michaela's like, this is the worst idea I've ever heard in my entire life.

So Demi says, okay, everybody, you're going to write a question on these cards and it's anonymous, so don't worry. So they all do it and no one wants to really do this, except Taylor, of course. She's like, I don't have anything to release. Everyone already knows my stuff, so I'm curious to hear other people's stuff.

I hope it beats swinging. And then they put everything in the box and they're like, Hey guys, should we go change? Let's go change. And they all change their outfits. Get on their sweats. Guys, put on your sweats. Put on your sweats. Mom talks sweats. Okay, great. Guys, casual. It's truth box time. Don't forget to put on your garments. Sorry, Jen. Come on shoes. Here comes one right now. OK, so now it's time to start the truth box.

Don't think, don't think, don't. Layla, if you could sleep with one of your friends' husbands, who would it be and why? And I was like, Oh my God, that is disgusting. Oh, they, uh, so they love and I bang him, I bang him like a drum fucking hot. I climb them like a tree. I'd blow the fuck out of him. I'm, I'm just saying,

I'm just like, if I had the choice, but I would never do it. It's like, wow. Yeah. saying I'm just like if I had the choice but I would never do it. It's like wow yeah I'd swallow that guy like a glass of water on a summer day okay Michaela geez and ride that guy like a pony into the sunset during Yankee Doodle era. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Jessie's like oh yeah Michaela's like I'd's step mom, which then I laughed that Demi named her daughter Mod, which then I'm like, Demi Mod? I'm like, wow, she's okay. So it's funny because Mod's a famous character that the Arthur played,

that was the, she's famous for being the first person on national TV to ever get an abortion. It's like what I would think that conservatives would consider one of the biggest villains of all time. The one showing up with shots in her purse is naming her kid after, you know, that being said, even if there wasn't that whole abortion element, just to think of Demi having a daughter who's just like, be Arthur is also amazing. Ma. Hey guys, Jen forgot her garments again. The baby just stares at the camera like. Does anyone know where Jen's garments are?

They're in Missouri. Of course I don't know where they are. Hey, do me a favor honey, pass me that bottle. Ow, you just hit me with the bottle. Fell for it again. So amazing. He's like, okay, all right. Time for Jen, time for Jen, time for Jen. Okay, Jen, which girl in this room

would you go L word for? Lesbian. Prove it, prove it, prove it. Yeah, so then Taylor's like, oh my gosh, and Whitney covers her face with her hands and they kiss. They fake kiss. And Jen's like, oh my God, it's Taylor. And they're like, kiss, kiss, for real, kiss, for real.

Oh my God, I kissed her on the cheek. Oh my God, you are like a god. Oh my God, Jen, Jen, you're wild. Modern Morris. And Layla whispers to me, I'd go gay for you. And everyone's like, oh my God, it wasn't even your question. She is, you're ruining the game.

Honestly, I don't even wanna go gay for you. I just wanna get one step closer to your husband. Oh my God, I would pull that flag right up, like it was Memorial Day. I'd ride that guy like a roller coaster at Disneyland. I'd take that sack of Big Macs guy like a like a roller coaster at Disneyland. I take that sack of Big Macs and put it right in my mouth like an extra value meal that it is. Right. Sit on that guy like an empty seat on a busy bus.

It is quite a luxury to find an empty seat on a busy bus. I know you immediately just jump down, you know. OK, so then now they're doing all these like fun, silly questions. And then Jesse goes, OK, this one's for Whitney. Why don't you like Taylor? You just jealous of her clout. Stupid bitch. And why is this signed, Taylor? Oops. So when he goes, the subtly, yeah, but this crack. Yeah. So when he goes, um, I don't think I'm jealous of Taylor's clout. I have a lot of clout on my own. Do you not remember that I have a vibrator deal and I got a free dragon fruit sweatshirt, uh, that's called the clout. And I think I was, you know what,

I think I was more jealous of the forgiveness that Taylor got during that time, the overall swinger drama that I feel like I didn't get from whatever I deserve forgiveness from. Is it maybe going to Hawaii then moving back? I don't know, I'm not sure, but I want forgiveness. I'm gonna be like, wait, what are you talking about? Forgiveness for what, Whitney? And she goes, guys, you know, just like the RSV video.

Oh yeah, the RSV video, yeah. We talked about this already, but we get to see it on the show, which is hilarious. And it is, well, let's just let Whitney tell us. She's like, two weeks after I'd given birth, Connor took Liam to our pediatrician, and their testing is oxygen level. And they're like, Oh my God, it's scarcely though. Does this baby even know how to shuffle ball change? Get into the emergency room. And I mean, I was gonna just die. I was like, so sad. My baby was gonna die die. So of course I put in a little plastic box and did a TikTok. Okay. I mean, I did

the best TikTok of my fucking life. All right. I twerked with my elbows in that one. So Connor rushes Liam to the emergency room and the first couple of days were, they were scary because Connor changed his hair again. I was like, how did you do that so quickly? But then, but then he was getting better. My baby was getting better, not Connor. He still sucks. So I'm thinking. Connor just got yet another haircut

and then started talking Spanish for some reason. He said his name was Pedro. I said, no, it's not, Connor. Stop. Come back to me, Connor. So I'm thinking, OK, well, my baby's getting better, so let's do something fun. So I made a video. And then we see Whitney's famous video where she's like, my baby has RSV.

And in that video, people felt that I was using my child's sickness for clout and attention. And I'm like, no, I was using it for clout and attention and likes and brand deals. What don't people understand? There was so much more that went into it. So she's like, I mean, everyone was quick to forgive Taylor online for swinging. And then I still get shredded pieces every single video. But no, I'm not jealous of her clout. I'm just jealous of her sinning and getting away with it. Okay, there I said it, I said it. But if I don't like her quote unquote, because that's what you call it.

I mean, I would call it, hate, wish death upon, whatever. That's another conversation for a different time. Dun, dun, dun. And Taylor's just like, yeah. But also I'd just like to point out Whitney, people didn't just forgive Taylor because she's luckier than you. When have you ever admitted that you were even wrong?

Even now, you're just like, I'm such a fucking victim. That's all you do is cry about what a victim you are. That's why people don't forgive you. Taylor's like, here's everything, sorry. And then they- Yeah, plus also Taylor has- The shadows being shifty about everything. And Taylor also like was smart.

She got pregnant right away. So it's like, well, you can't make fun of a pregnant lady. So we'll just make fun of her and we'll be pissed off in nine months and then nine months come happen, you know, happen. And then someone like Whitney steps in and takes away all the, you know, takes the attention away from her.

So Taylor's like, you know, I am like very confused because I'm like, girl, you have no idea the amount of bullying and threats and comments that I've received on a daily basis, just from my mom. And like, you know, people tell me how awful the person I am. And so I think I got like way more trash than she has by far. And just he's like, Oh, my God, she should just be honest, because she's like, you know, Whitney will say lots of stuff behind her back. But then when she's confronted, she won't say it right to her face. I mean, come on, girl.

So now Jim pulls out another card. And she's like, Taylor, if you found out today that Dakota lied and actually slept with Jenna that night and didn't just like, see her maybe at a grocery store and like wave at her and wanted to sleep with her, would you leave him even though you're having his baby? And she goes, Oh yeah. Like who would be totally bad to me? Like I'm serious. You guys, I totally stand up to bad men. Totally. Yeah. He would a hundred percent be dead to me and then I would revive his body and we would just move it together somewhere else.

Yeah. Until he was alive to me again. And then we'd probably date again. Like it's just there's just something there. So we weren't okay, everyone here, let me tell everyone. We weren't like officially dating. He had like originally slept with a girl and like lied about it and then ended up telling me the truth. And he was like, okay, like, I'm so sorry. And I was like, it's good. We're not dating, you know, but then he went off with another girl and that's Jenna

And I asked him if he likes up with her and he said he only kissed her and he's like sworn on his life And like you know what? I said if it ever comes out that you guys did anything else I will leave you in like a snap of a finger Okay, so I was like if you did just come clear now and he has sworn on his life that he didn't. So based on his very convincing eyes, I'm going to say he did not sleep with Jenna. Yeah. Uh, he did sleep with Jenna and you probably knew it because listen, I was like, Oh my God, thank God we weren't officially dating. I mean, we were just dating, but we weren't like dating. So I could care to be slept with

someone we weren't dating, you know, what do I care? But this time we were dating. Do you think they really said no, they didn't. I can totally trust him. The guy was sleeping with somebody while we were dating, but not dating. Totally trustworthy. Before I even heard this story, the first episode when I saw Dakota, I was like, this is the man who is a man whose eyes are saying that he slept with a girl named Jenna. He has I slept with a girl named Jenna. I'm just, he has, I slept with Jenna eyes. Yeah, that guy's has fucked up eyes in every single scene,

which doesn't automatically make you a cheater, but he is lying actively on the show while he's with this girl. This guy's purely bad news. We can see it clear as day that this guy, all the guys on this show were bad news. Is there a guy that's not bad? You know who we've heard from as a guy that's not bad news? Nobody. They don't feature them on the show because every guy they've actually featured sucks. They suck. Seth maybe a little Barney rubble who was just trying to give people shots. Some of you know I'm having a saga with my vehicle and it has just arrived outside.

It was the service people lost the key and it's been a drama and I got distracted because the key has arrived and I just had to alert Dom. So please continue on while I gather my, where I regained my place in this very important argument about Jenna and Taylor. Okay, well do you need to go get it? No, Dom's going out to get it but I had to I had to

send texts back and forth with Maria and I'm like please don't drive off with my car. You're like Maria there's a question in the truth box why do you suck so bad? Why did you guys do my key? My key. Okay so. Sorry your key was basically my garments. I forgot the key. Okay, so yeah anyway, Taylor claims that you would leave Dakota in a heartbeat, but. Lies, but no one believes her. Then Demi is like, now the question is for Demi. It's like Demi, did you ever say that Jen is too Mormon? Dun dun dun.

Music is like, do do do do do do. I've never said she's too Mormon. I guess I've said that you bring it up in conversation a lot. You're like, can't do that. Cause data data or can't wear that. Cause my garments are data data or, um, oh my God, I'm not allowed to speak. Cause my husband didn't let me know I could speak that. Things like that, you know, data data.

I'm Django. So that would stop you from hanging out with me, but she didn't say, just like really jumping to conclusions on that one. And she was, okay, well, let it stop me from being friends with me then. She was no, no. And Macy and Whitney are giggling.

Macy, the betrayer over there, two-faced Macy over there. She's like, oh no, actually I like Macy, but she is kind of two-faced too. So they're giggling to each other and she goes, oh yeah, what's funny? You two are giggling because you're the one that told her this obviously. And then Macy points at Whitney and Whitney's like, yeah, what's funny? You two are giggling because you're the one that told her this obviously. And then basically points at Whitney and Whitney's like,

yeah, I did tell her, I did. And then we see dinner two weeks ago where Whitney said, Demi said that you're being very, very Mormon. What are you so offended about? You're the one like, guys forgot my comments. What? You are, you're exactly like she said. Yeah. And so Whitney's like Macy said, well, sorry, Demi is like, you know,

you're the ones that told her this obviously, and you guys both by the way, you guys both agreed that Jen was being too Mormon and Macy goes agreed and when he goes, No, we did not. We actually love the level of her Mormonism and Demi's like you did you did agree with me when he's like absolutely not to me yeah and she's like uh-huh and she goes that's not even a word and absolutely fucking not like well we didn't so don't say that we did she She was, yes, you did. I'm like, no, we did not. I believe that they did.

I believe that she was like, oh my God, she's like so Mormon. They were like, yeah, she really is. Like she really leans into it hard. And to me it was like, ultimately, did I say she's too Mormon? Yes, and I stand by it, even though I wouldn't in public right now.

But the question isn't what struck a nerve with me. It was that it came from Whitney. And Whitney's like, yeah, we were just so shocked. We were like, I can't believe that you're friends with Jen and you're talking like that about Jen. And I say that as someone who's wearing a ruffled clown collar right now. So everybody has to take me the most serious. I was friends with Jen, but then when I brought it up, you said, I totally understand where you're coming from. She can be that way. Whitney is like, did I say that, Macy? Did I say that? And Macy's like, uh, I don't, I don't remember. Talk to Jen. You know what? You guys worked this out. This

isn't an issue with me. And Demi's like, no, don't be that bitch. Don't say I'm going to tell the story. Then don't talk to me. You were right there. Yeah. And when I said it's a little bit annoying how it's like, look at me. I'm so Mormon. You said, yeah, I totally get where you were right there. Yeah, and when I said it's a little bit annoying, how it's like, look at me, I'm so Mormon, you said, yeah, I totally get where you're coming from. She can be that way. And Whitney is just flipping her hair. She's like, what?

This looks so stupid. Someone just come in the door and shoot me, because I do not want to be here anymore. Oh, yeah, Whitney? Well, what's confusing to me is that you would rate yourself a nine out of, oh, no. Jen's like, what's confusing to me is that you would rate yourself a nine in 10, no, Jen's like, what's confusing to me to me is that you would rate yourself a nine in 10,

nine out of 10 on the Mormon scale. But I'm too Mormon for you. And she's like, it's not about your being too Mormon, even though you're too Mormon. You know what I mean? You know what? I don't go around saying I'm hosting a BYU Mormon graduation. I'm wearing my garments for the 7,000th time. I'm solid in who I am. And I don't need to go around saying, I am Mormon.

But I feel like often you will wear that as like a badge of honor, and to me it's like kind of gaggy. And I think what she's saying is Jen is clearly insecure in her relationship and her place amongst the group because she's new and she's like the maid's daughter, and she's with this really rich, like stuck up family. And so she wants to be as Mormon as possible. And so she's constantly pronouncing to everybody how Mormon she is to try and win favor

within this group that she clearly feels that she is not good enough for. And it's annoying being around someone. So definitely insecure, but I don't think anyone has the vocabulary to say that. it's just like yeah but it's like you're like saying you're Mormon a lot because like I don't like it's gaggy. And I feel like now, I'm sorry, I feel like now you are like notorious for doing this to a lot of people, like calling Taylor white trash.

And Taylor's just sitting there with like a carrot in her mouth, like, oh. So Jen has now successfully diverted this onto Taylor. And Jen's like, when Whitney told me that Demi said I was too Mormon for her, she also told me that Demi called Taylor white trash. This was so funny. So then we see a flashback again of Whitney going,

yeah, you know what? She said she was white trash. And then they showed Taylor walking away from a food table with her pregnant belly, you know, chewing and Whitney's like, yeah, I would never say that. And I don't even like Taylor. I'm sure you would never call Taylor white trash. Give me a break.

So Taylor's mom is Asian. I'd like to point out. Taylor's mom is? Yeah, isn't her mom Asian? I don't think so. Taylor, Frankie, Paul? Leanne? We'll circle back to this one.

I don't know. I thought Taylor was mixed all this time. Oh, I don't know. I don't think so, but I don't know. So I'm not the arbiter of that, but I don't think she is. I'm like, people, get your insults correct. But so Jim's like, oh yeah, Demi,

it seems like you just keep on doing this. She goes, what are you talking about? And Taylor's like, when did you call me white trash? And she goes, okay, well, let me explain where that was coming from. I just got done explaining to the girls that the night of the party that we came over, you were like super drunk and you came over to my house band

and I don't even know if you remember, but you were like, and you were kissing him on the head. And then you were kissing me know if you remember but you're like, you're kissing him on the head. And then you were kissing me on the head. And you're like, I love you guys. You were being all touchy. And like, I don't know, like you started being super like flirty with Brett and like laughing with him and leaning over the couch. And I was like, just sitting right there. Like 1000% Brett was there, I can confirm you were like leaning over the couch and

you were like, hee hee hee. And like laughing to him. And you were like talking directly to him while I was sitting right there. And I was like watching you go from husband to husband flirty or whatever. And Taylor goes, Well, I was a swinger. So yeah, I mean, shocker. She goes, Yeah, but I didn't know you were a swinger at the time. So I'm like, you're being trashy. I love that Taylor's just like, well, I was a swinger at the time. So of course, I was coming on to your husband. So now you call me trashy. well, I was a swinger at the time. So of course I was coming onto your husband.

So now you call me trashy just because I was trying to fuck your husband at a party. Since you hadn't officially labeled yourself as a sexual deviant, I just assumed you were being trashy. If you had been out of the closet about being a swinger, I would never have been able to say such a thing. So Taylor's logic is hilarious. I think it's just that she's so confident that everyone's like, yeah, I mean, Taylor was a swinger.

So of course she was hitting on your husband. I can't believe you do call her white trash. Guys, calling someone white trash is not worse than someone hitting on your husband at a party. I'm sorry. Yeah. I would have to agree with that. So, um, so Jen is like, so when he's like, it's a complete shit show in the shitter, the sewer, just shit everywhere. Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, but enough about my relationship with Connor. So Jen is like, you know what? It doesn't make it acceptable to call her white trash. And

Demi is like, I'm not saying that. Shush. What I'm just saying is, oh my God, don't shush her. Don't shush her. No, no, no, no, no. Listen, I don't want to hear your judgment because you haven't even listened to what I'm saying. And you weren't in this situation. In that moment, when I had just told everyone what had happened, I feel like all those feelings came up and just kind of like loose lips. And I'm just like, honestly, yeah, a lot of what she does is trashy. And like, yeah, I'm not surprised. Yeah, that's like trashy. Oh, really? So what else is trashy that I do since a lot of it is just, well, the whole swinging thing was trashy.

She goes, okay, well, we got that one down. Swinging trashy. Great. What else? Is that not enough? Ma'am, you can't expect people to come in here and talk swinging, okay? Swinging is enough in this situation. Yeah, I think that's actually true. So, Taylor's like, Demi's like, well, I know, I mean, I'm just saying,

I thought you were trashy. And Taylor goes, you know, you're saying a lot of what I do is trashy. She goes, no, no, a lot of what we've seen, like your TikToks, you know? And she goes, what TikToks? Just the TikToks that you were just like super flippant about this swinging situation,

just like that whole era of your life. And this is another moment where to me just literally doesn't have the proper words to explain herself, which I think what she's really trying to say is, you not only swing, you swung with people, which is one thing, but then you took people's consenting moments and you outed them nationally

in front of millions of people and humiliated them when you were partaking in something. It was not your right to fucking out people. That's disgusting. It's like, it's not even the swinging, it's the sin of what you did to your friends by betraying everybody and ruining everybody's reputation in front of millions of people.

Taylor, Jesus Christ. Yeah. So Taylor goes, the white trash from Demi hurts me. Sure I've done trashy things, but right now she knows that it's something I'm trying to work through. I'm trying to work through my white trash. I've done trashy things. I'm just trying to work through my trashy problems.

You guys, I'm like working so hard. You are not working so hard. You're pregnant, so you can't drink. That's literally all that's happened. You got pregnant, so now you're not drinking and making stupid decisions. Okay? You don't get a fucking medal for that. I can't drink. That's literally all that's happened. You got pregnant. So now you're not drinking and making stupid decisions. Okay, you don't get a fucking medal for that. I can't with her. So oh my god, I've made such huge changes. You got impregnated again. That's literally all you buy some loser that you're now gonna be forcing your child for the rest of their life to have that for a father. Listen, I know I like you, but girl, And they're like broken up too, by the way. And recent for now, you know, this is not now this couple's ever going to be broken up. Because of course they're making it a huge TikTok drama that's like everybody has to go follow it on TikTok to find out what's going on.

He's making videos. She's making videos. They'll be back. By the way, I tried to look up what what Taylor's ethnicity is, and I actually found nothing. But I think if anything, people are saying that she might actually be Latina. So I don't I'm just going to step out of the the that whole thing. But for those who are like, Ben, what are you talking about? I'm saying I looked it up and I who cares? Why are you thinking of it?

Not to be. And I don't mean it in a dismissive way. I mean, why do you care? What's going on? Well, no, I just think it's funny to call someone white trash if they might not be white. Oh, just trash. Just leave it at trash. And it is also funny that it's like the white trash that pisses everybody off on this show. It's like, oh my God, that's racist. Like, how could you do that? Trash? Just keep it at trash. It would have been fine. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, Taylor is working through her trash era and people have to

understand how difficult that is. That's like really hard, you guys. So then Taylor goes, Okay, well, let me ask you this. Do you think it's trashy to take off your dress in front of my boyfriend to put your mic on and to me it's like what and she goes, Yeah, you made him so uncomfortable while he's fucked two other people since we've been together. But when he saw you drop your dress to put your mic on, wow. And we saw, yeah, virginal, your virginal little boyfriend.

Dakota, sweet sweet Dakota. This is a flashback now to the Galentine's Day party when Demi was like in a bra at the top of the staircase, and she came out to say hi, and then Dakota was there. First of all, there weren't supposed to be other men there, so Dakota was an interloper into a woman's space. Second of all, this was not some burlesque routine. It was her just being comfortable in her own body.

If anything, Dakota had a full on erection through his jeans. Man, it was utilitarian. The producer was like, you need to put on your mic. She was like, okay, and they put on her mic. It's like getting mad that you saw someone's bra backstage doing a show during a costume change. Give me a fucking break with that. That's weak. She was, yeah, he was so uncomfortable.

She was, okay, well, I literally already had my bra out when he walked in to get mic'd. So I did not take off my dress. He came in while my dress was already down. So. Yeah, and Jess, she's like, oh my God, what is happening right now?

This is exactly what I was afraid of. I would rather get birthed without an epidural than sit through this any longer. So Taylor is like, yeah, she's like, no, you're being slutty. You're being slutty in front of Dakota. Dakota felt so uncomfortable. I could tell because his eyes were bulging extra big.

So Demi's like- He only masturbates in public when he's uncomfortable. Demi's like, the intention matter definitely in that moment. We were in a rush situation to get mics on. I don't think it's like the intention matter. Definitely in that moment. OK, and we were in a rush situation to get Mike's on. I don't think it's trashy. Just really, really. They had to bring him paper towels to me.

So Taylor's like, so if so, if I did that to Brett, that's not trashy. And she goes, no, just tits in his face. Really? She's like, oh, come on. Yeah, that's ridiculous. She says, oh, you think I went like this? Ooh's like, Oh, come on. Yeah, it's ridiculous. She says, Oh, you think I went like this? Ooh, Dakota, ooh, I literally was turned. I was like unbuttoned. If you're worried about that, that's a you and Dakota problem.

Yeah. And it's like, no, Dakota felt uncomfortable. And he's like her bra, her tits are right there. Like, it's uncomfortable. It is uncomfortable. Oh, my God. You're a swinger. You were fucking kidding me. You're literally the one trying to fuck her husband and now you're going to talk about how uncomfortable someone in a bra is. Please ma'am, please. I know exactly. And you're a soft swinger on top of everything else.

This is the definition of soft swinging. So she goes, tell her goes, if I go up to Brett and take my, take off my dress in front of him and he's looking like, mm. And cause he actually looked cause like it's right there. Like that's a him problem or am I the problem? I was like, no, that's a him problem. Like that's definitely him problem if he's looking. If a woman has to take off her dress for a mic

and you're still ogling at her, that's the guy's problem. But it always comes back to that, doesn't it? It's like, oh my God, you made my husband look at you. You made my husband cheat on me. You made the man do this. No, you're with a piece of shit, okay? And none of this is even real anyway. She's just trying to fight a white trash allegation.

So she's making up some bullshit. She knows this is bullshit. So Taylor's like, no, to me is like, the situation matters because I'm not the freaking swinger here, okay? Like I'm not the one trying to seduce other people's husbands. She's like, I'm not proud of it, but I want to put the past behind me. Okay.

Like, I just don't know if these women are ever going to be able to let go of my past that they only really knew about it because I talked about it on Tik TOK. So Macy is like, um, don't you guys feel like this is a conversation you should have alone maybe even though we're totally like having like a scene with this box and Demi's like, no, we're in the middle like this is a conversation you should have alone maybe even though we're totally like having like a scene with this box and Demi's like, No, we're in the middle of this is a good scene. Come on. Macy's like, okay, well, if you guys can try and shame me in public, then you can listen to me defend myself in public. Exactly. Sit still over

there, ma'am. So it's time to pick another card. So Layla picks another card because Whitney, who is your least favorite person in the group and why they're not it's time to pick another card. So Layla picks another card because Whitney, who is your least favorite person in the group and why they're not. It's just right, right, right on the nose. And honestly, you yell at Taylor. Thanks. Honestly, I felt like right now, it's to me because like I was just feeling like anything that like any truth, you're just like, no, you agreed with me. You said this. And it's like, oh no, we're talking about you, not us, you know? And I'm like, but I didn't say that. I don't know. It's just like to me right now for me. To me is like, Oh, really? Okay. You're the only one who gets to like, go start

shit and throw out accusations. But the minute anybody defends themselves, of course, Whitney, of course, you're going to start crying little blonde white girl. It's going to start crying in five minutes. And I guarantee call the police on somebody. Go ahead. Do it. Do it. No one really cares about what news response Laylaila just goes, okay, well the box is done. God bless. And Macy goes, we made it through without ripping each other's heads off. I was like, I don't know what TV show you were just watching, but I think there were some heads that are rolling around on the floor right now. Yeah. Yeah. You guys were ripping heads off for sure. So they're like, Oh my God. Jesse goes, I don't know about the truth box.

I think a better name for this game would have been like, I don't know, murder, suicide. Would have been a name. So Whitney is so the game kind of breaks up and Whitney's talking to Macy in a room and she's venting and she's like, oh my god, like she's gaslighting everyone right now. Like you realize that right? I never said it. And she goes, yeah. She was, I mean, I was mad you didn't stick up for me. She's like, what do you mean? She was full. She said like, you were in the car with me and you were like, I didn't hear. And I

was like, um, but I was like, you were in the car with me. Yeah. Cause you're a fucking liar. And she totally heard it. And she's sticking up for you by not outing you. She's just saying she doesn't remember. Exactly. She's like, well, I'm trying to remember what's going on because I don't even remember what was going on. She goes, I know, but you would remember if I said that she was. Yeah, but that's why I said I know we didn't. But then when she first said that, because I'm like, I know for a fact or I didn't. I mean, it's like, I don't even know what we're even talking about anymore, but I know when I was like Macy like you were in the car with me.

Macy's basically like you know she tells us I don't think it's fair that Whitney is saying I'm not supportive. I mean all I do is support her. We're only like three hours into this trip and I'm already like I want to pack my bags and go home like this isn't fun. Everyone's screaming at each other. So then she's like you better stick up for me if they come for me again she's like okay I'll stick up for you so then uh now we go to Demi talking to Taylor and she's like um I'm not some phony person that thinks ill of you okay that's talking behind your back it was a

literal isolated moment okay and regardless of how I feeling, I should have addressed that so it didn't fester. So okay, I'm sorry. It was like a low moment. And I'm really sorry. And Taylor's like, Yeah, but I just need the bed alone now. Because we're supposed to share a room. But now I need to have you were the one coming on to her husband. This is so unfair. You came on to her husband and all she did was say that girl's like acting trashy at a party and now you get the room alone. You were the one. Yeah, this is so unfair. Yeah, that's

bullshit. You're right. Taylor was totally she was crossing lines and then her only defense is that Demi took off her dress and she's contorting it into a way as if it was an act of seduction when it was purely like the producers told her to take down her dress. Yeah. And on top of that, like you're trying to make her look like a slut. You're totally right. Dakota should have and Dakota should have looked away. He should have been a gentleman and looked away and given her privacy instead of just staring at her. And now all of a sudden,

Dakota is the victim in this situation as if he's been touched inappropriately. No, I don't think so. Now as a human being, I say Taylor fucking sucks. Now as a reality TV show watcher, I'm like, God, that girl's so good at manipulation. She's great. Good for her Good for her, but I also really like to me. I like that. She's not scared and she's like I'll take Whitney down I have no problem Yeah, I feel like any of us would naturally be afraid of someone like Whitney because you see what Whitney does the second She doesn't like somebody she starts manipulating and going behind her back and turning every you know,

poisoning the well. And that's a scary person to not to have not like you and she doesn't care. She's like, fuck you, you little fucking tattletale. I have no problem going to toe to toe with you. And Whitney knows that she's actually met her. Her true what do you call it like sparring partner because she immediately starts crying because she becomes the ultimate villain. Because she can't be the ultimate victim. They really set it up like this show is gonna be

about Taylor versus Whitney, but it's really feeling to me that the actually it's Demi versus Whitney. Demi seems like she's actually the real star of the show. But I don't know, there's still the whole second half of the season to watch, so we'll see how that unfolds. A lot of people probably have watched it. And it could last third.

I guess there's only two more episodes. No, it turns out there's eight episodes. Oh, I thought there were six. I thought so, too. I was told six. And then when they did the mid season trailer at the end of this episode, I was like, I was like, why are they doing a trailer for only two more episodes? And I saw that they actually are.

They're actually eight. But someone online told me there were six episodes and I foolishly just blindly- I should know, you know, that's your fatal flaw is not, is telling me the wrong season order of TV shows. You know that, right? You've done this to me multiple times. You don't have any flaws in life, but this is one of them.

We were like, oh no, this show has 12 episodes and then we find out it has 15. You're like, whoops, I just thought it would. I should know to look it up. I know that you're the one, you're the one who's always like, wow, well, we should be having the season finale next week. I'm like, should we do that? I should be always like, well, it looks like the finale is next week.

But that's me making a guess. You're saying emphatically, what? There's six episodes. We got this. Well, this one a hundred percent was my fault. I did. I did state authoritatively that there were six episodes in the season. Oh, I quit. Don't worry.

I'm really excited. And when we cover the final episode, we'll also be welcoming in the new year. So no, it's like one of those. It's like when you're exercising, which doesn't happen often, or you're in a class and like, we're almost there, we're almost there.

And then you're not almost there. You're still like two miles away. You're like, it's right past that corner. It's like going up with running, you know how it gets tricky and you're like, oh, it looks like the end, but then it's not the end. You go around to that top and there's another top.

Oh my God. Well, look, we're halfway there. And you know, so that's exciting. We're half way there. That's fine. Yeah. And the good news is I love the show. So, you know, it's not over. What are we acting like we just made it through this episode? OK, there's still a whole other part of this episode, too. Yeah. OK, so Demi apologizes to Taylor. Demi is the victim, but still Taylor comes out

the biggest victim and gets the room alone, which, you know, applause. I give you the applause, you deserve it. So then the next morning, everyone's getting ready and Jessie's drinking her Dr. Pepper, which I mean, basically, why don't you just go snort coke off a hooker's ass? I mean, my God. don't you just go snort coke off a hooker's ass? I mean, my God.

Yeah, that's trashy. So then they're doing the group to talk in their matching sweats or doing their little dance. Like, okay, you step there. Whole thing is they like to move in a circle and they move in a circle and they stop for two seconds and in front of the camera, they're like, and then they like move in the next girl. I guess go. So that's what they're doing. They're doing their little roundabout choreography. And Macy's like, last night it was an absolute shit show.

And I really hope that we can bounce back from this because bitches, it's my birthday. And then they're all doing dances. And it says like, welcome to the updated Mormon mom talk. So Taylor tells Whitney, I'm gonna go upstairs. And she was, yeah, go get ready. She says, no, like, come with me. She goes, oh, dun, dun, dun.

So now they're going to have the talk. And Whitney's like, oh my god. Oh my god. And Taylor's like, why are you stressed? She goes, I'm scared. I mean, just don't punch me. I'm not going to come at you screaming unless you scream at me.

She goes, no, well, I won't. I mean, I won't think screaming. I just like, I don't know. She goes, okay, so I know you have some feelings about me and like that's no secret. Obviously like, you know, like started, started with like the baby shower when I truly like figured it out that you don't like me, but like, I feel like you're like a really good at telling people how you feel about them, like straight up. So I'm curious, like, why I haven't been

told about what you think about me. So because I don't feel like I need to because like, like, I was just like, fine, where we were at, like, I feel like I needed explaining it was just like, I mean, it was an intimate thing for you. And that was for close friends and family. And we're like, not friends. So yeah, but I'm confused. And what I did, like there's something that like sparked you to not like me. And I was curious what that was.

It's like, well, I tried to cultivate a relationship after swinger stuff, but then like I was trying to include you cause you were like ostracized, but like, I don't know, it wasn't reciprocated, you know? And I just don't want to be friends with someone like that. You know, it's exhausting. It is exhausting. It's hard enough wearing shoulder pads, literally under swimsuits. But there's probably girls down there

that you're not besties with, but like, you don't have like that issue. And then we have Custa Demi, who basically is like, you're friends with Demi, but you still hang out with her. You're not close with Demi, but you hang out with her. And Whitney's like, I'm not besties with her, but like I've definitely had more of a connection with them more than you.

And I just feel like I've tried. And it's like, in the beginning, I was really trying to have this connection with you. And it was like never reciprocated. And I wanted to be asked like, hey, what happened with you and Connor? Like, are you OK? But like I have asked that I feel like I have.

No, you haven't. You've never asked anybody how they're doing. We've not seen it once on this show ever. I mean, granted, we're only four episodes in, but still, I believe it. And so then Demi is like, you guys, her issue with Taylor is like her issue with herself, honestly, which OK. She's like, yeah, like guys, her issue with Taylor is like her issue with herself, honestly, which okay. She's like, yeah, like she is comparing herself to Taylor and she's like, can't get the hype that Taylor's getting.

So she's mad, you know? And she's like, why, why is the public forgiving her more than me? I was like, wow, how insightful Whitney literally just said that stop acting like you just solved a mystery, you know? And then, um, Macy's like, well, what does she say? Like she's she just kept saying, like, I keep getting shit for my RSV video and like people forgive you. And she goes, yeah, but like you have a vulnerable, sick child in your video.

Okay. And I get that back then, guys, TikTok was very different. Okay. Back in the olden times of 2022, TikTok was different. You couldn't add a filter that gave you bunny ears. What do you bunny nose? Oh gosh. And then she was like, yeah. And then Macy says, well, also that day she said Liam was doing better. So like, you know, she was like doing a happy TikTok, you know? Like she didn't know it was gonna be so badly received. And she goes, No, she said that her intention

was to get likes and clout. And they're like, she's like, yeah, I mean, guys, she admitted it. Macy's like, I've never heard her say that. And then he goes, Yeah, it was after our ketamine session. I was like, what? What? It's like, we can't have coffee, but we are allowed to have small doses of ketamine. What is this show? So Demi goes, Whitney and I did ketamine about eight months ago, which is a therapy

for physical trauma or emotional trauma or trash trauma that you've been inflicted on you by Taylor. And coming out of ketamine, you are feeling things very deeply and truths are coming out about yourself and maybe you wouldn't want to otherwise admit them. And in that moment, in that deep, vulnerable, private moment, she admitted to me that the video she posted was for sympathy and recognition to gain her following. I'm okay.

This is funny for a few different reasons. A, it's pretty shitty to out someone's like ketamine vulnerability on TV or to your friends. But it is kind of like turnabout is fair play because basically Whitney did that with. Yeah, I feel no city sexual story. Yeah, but it's also hilarious that like you go through your ketamine therapy, you feel all the things you sob, you're confronting, you know, whatever traumas in your life and you come out of it and you go, I made the video for clouds. It's like the first thing that's on top of mine is like, I made a tick tock for cloud. Their life, you know, it's like the end of a Matlock. He's finally breaks him down with his sweet demeanor.

It's like, I did it. I did it. You're right. I did it for cloud. And by the way, I'm excited to watch the new Matlock. I recorded it and I haven't watched it. Me too. My life is. Kathy, I'm out like, hell, yes, I'm in. I've officially transitioned into middle-aged. There could be nothing more middle-agey than being like,

these crazy kids on TikTok, by the way, I DVR Matlock. 100 percent. Well, I am an old lady now. I'm allowed to like Matlock. Fuck yeah, I'm excited for the Kathy Bates Matlock. I saw on my Amazon that my Paramount Plus was still going, and I was like, damn it, that's been going for a year ever since the previous season of Evil.

I'm so mad. I thought I canceled it. I haven't been watching anything on there. And then I saw that Matlock was coming on and I was like, then I'm keeping it. I'm keeping it for Kathy Bates. And then I went and it wasn't on yet. And I was like, I'm still keeping it.

I'm keeping it in anticipation of Kathy Bates' Matlock. I can't wait. I might watch it later today. Then let's see. Then we cut back upstairs to Whitney and Taylor. Whitney's like, I wanted everyone to be there for me in that moment, but no one was there for me because then you made it about your miscarriage. She's like, oh my God,

actually, I'm glad I got called out now because when I'm listening to to people stuff, I want to relate, but I just, you know what? I need to validate their feelings and then talk about myself. It's like, Oh my God, you've learned nothing. You fucking narcissist. Thank you for regurgitating that like pops like gobbledygook right there. So then downstairs, they're all listening in downstairs and Leila's like, why is Taylor being so nice? And Demi's like, I don't, I Leila's like, why is Taylor being so nice? And Demi's like, I don't, she's like, I know, it's so wrong. Like nail her to the cross already.

So Macy is like watching, Macy's like, well, we need, we need someone on kind to go break it up. I'm kidding Demi, no, Demi don't go up there. But Demi's like already on her feet and heading upstairs. Yeah, and she's like, Demi will gaslight you, but guess what? I'm not letting this go. You pushed me too far, Whitney. I'm going to set the record straight at all costs.

So then she goes up and, um, Taylor's like, um, like I would love to be there for things you're excited about, or you want my, she's still talking to Whitney and like, okay, so like before I talk about my miscarriage, I'm going to be like, how are you today? And then I'm going to be like, how are you today? And then I'm going to be like, I had a miscarriage. Is that better? She's like, no, no, it's not Taylor. When he's like, but I feel like when I told you my whole Connor thing of him like being

on Instagram and DMing people named Jenna, I got like zero, nothing. And then Demi's like, wait, zero from who? I mean, I feel like this is not, Demi should not be inserting herself here, but I'm glad she did, cause it was fun. Yeah, I want to guess everyone. And Demi goes, I don't agree with that. Cause I remember reaching out to you

and being there for you. And when he's like, I don't even know why Demi's here. I don't even know why she's presented herself in this conversation. I'm like, what's your intention? Let's talk about intention. What's your intention for being in here in this conversation? I feel like Taylor doesn't care about me. It's a birthday party and you're the pinata. Okay. So just

so she goes, I feel like Taylor doesn't care about me and I don't want to be someone like that. Like I don't want to be around someone like that. It's as simple as that. Yeah. So Taylor's like, listen, I don't know how I'm supposed to work on it when I don't know anything's wrong. And she's like, yeah. And so basically Whitney's like, I don't want anything from you. Just leave it like it is. And I have to hand it to Whitney that she's not going to be off fake for the show and be like, OK, you said sorry, let's move on now. We fake hug. And then she still hates her. She's just like, no, I don't want to be your friend. It's over. So just leave me alone. But how can we fix it? We can't But what if we how are we gonna hang out again? We're not

It's like that's it. She's just like I hate you at the end And Taylor's like but the entire time we could have worked on it And when he says yeah, I don't care enough to say anything So I just don't want to say anything and demi then goes yeah But you did to everyone else you'll'll bring other people stuff up to other people like the Jen situation. Like you'll take something I said that I by the way told you not to say anything and you said I swear my life I won't say it.

You're the one that did the truth box. She's like, I never brought that up. I told Jen and she can do whatever she wants with that. Oh my gosh, Whitney's horrible. Whitney can't even take responsibility for that. Like you went and talk shit, just say, I talk shit. Sorry. Maybe I should. Yeah. You know, so then, um, it means like, well, but you say you don't want to have a conversation, but you're willing to have them with everybody else, you know, and then you're going to shit on Taylor behind your back. And then you're going to come at me for something. And then you're gonna come at me for something

I said about Taylor. You don't even like Taylor. What do you care? And she's like, well, everything I said, I said to her face right now. Yeah, you said it to her face now. Like how many months later? God, she's so frustrated.

Demi's like, yeah, but for the last two years, she hasn't heard a word of it. So when he was like, and does that bother you, Taylor? Does it bother you that I didn't tell you? And Taylor's like, yeah, that's why I'm up here. It bothered me that you didn't come to my shower. Just tell me, hey, I don't wanna be friends with you. Like I thought we were friends.

So when you didn't show up, I was like, it's a big deal. And we're at the white shanty. She's like, I regret nothing. And I'm glad I told Jim too. And I do it like, I regret nothing. And I'm glad I told you and I do it again. I regret nothing. She goes, OK, to me, it's like, OK, well, you're a shitty friend. And Whitney's like, well, then don't be my friend, I guess. And to me, it's like, OK, I don't want to then.

So we're not friends. And Whitney goes, did you not just call Taylor white trash? I mean, are you going to address that with Taylor? What do you say? Stop yelling at me. Stop yelling at me. Yell at Taylor like Taylor. Yeah, deflects fight now the election. So it's a lot of kind of narcissistic people. But nobody cares about the other person side of things. And it's actually kind of funny to watch them all go in a circle. So Taylor goes, you know what, you're hurt and that's okay. I've been there where you don't want to give a fuck. And Timmy goes, but you're hurt like in life and you're just going to take it out on everyone.

Like I don't get it. And, and Taylor's like, I get it. And he's like, I don't want to talk about it anymore. They're both, I don't think they were even really talking to each other. They're just kind of all fighting about who now has to walk away with a perception of being the worst. They don't care about each other or how the other person feels. They're just like, who's gonna look the worst right now?

And it's actually kind of hilarious. So then Whitney walks off, she's like, I don't wanna talk about it. And Demi's like, well, she's hurt you, I get it. But I've never hurt Whitney. And Taylor's like, well, I've hurt Whitney, so I'm gonna follow Whitney, because I've heard her before and Taylor's like, well, I've heard Whitney, so I'm going to follow Whitney because I've heard her before. Bye. Bye, lady.

It's probably the closest thing to anybody on my side right now. Bye. Yeah. So then they go. So when he goes off to a room to cry and then Demi and Demi and Taylor go downstairs and they're like chasing. They're trying to find Whitney. And so Jen goes and finds Whitney and Jen's like Whitney are you okay and you know Whitney is like oh and they're all consoling her and everything and me she's like what's going on I couldn't hear anything what's going on and Demi's like you know what she thinks it's her place to tell everyone's everyone people's shit? And are you okay?

Like, when has that ever been like a thing? And like, we're having like a heated conversation and like, and get she gets up and cries and leaves the way that Whitney talks and changes her persona in the moment. It's like, Oh, I don't know, like be yourself. Like who are you right now? Yeah. So basically she's like, I'm going to kill Whitney. Fuck Whitney. She's a better.

Whitney's crying so she wins. We should all feel bad for Whitney. She's crying in the closet. That's where she met her husband. Come on guys, have some compassion. And so Whitney's crying and she's like, Oh my God, I'm like such a pussy. And I'm like, no, you have a right to have your feelings Whitney. And then Demi is like, how does it feel Whitney?

In that empowerment moment where you've just told somebody off and said, what a bitch, you know, like she's going off and then it cuts back to when Whitney and she's like, I'm not always strong, but then we are strong just because you're crying doesn't mean you're not strong. You're so strong. It's like you always have to gather around the crying one, you know, and Whitney knows it. Yeah. So then Demi walks into the room and she's like, Okay, you know what? Let's make this a group affair. That was not intended. So she's like, I'm not afraid of Whitney. I'm going to go find her and tell her to fuck off some more while she's crying. And they're like, no Demi, don't do it. And Whitney's like, please let me be a victim alone.

And she's like, no, I'm gonna yell at you dumb bitch. Can you please get out of the room Demi, please. She's like, no I won't, because you're talking about me so no I won't. And Jen's like, Demi, she needs some space right now. Look, her shoulder pads are deflating. And Demi's like, you guys let her shit all over me last night. You had no problem with that. But now it's minion fest. And that minion fest, how dare you?

Yeah Chihuahua fest of two little puppies sitting next to Whitney being like back off. She's unstable. And Jen's like, you know what? Raising your voice isn't going to help the situation nor will it bring my garments to me, so stop it. And it works, because Demi's like, I mean, I'm not sitting here screaming. And they're like, the way you're talking right now is so loud.

She's like, wait a minute. I love when they do that. But you're yelling, uh-oh. I have a right to be upset. You must have lost the entire conversation. I have a right to be upset. I'm frustrated. I'm confused at to be upset. I'm frustrated. I'm confused at where Whitney stands

and I thought we were friends and that's not what a friend would do. And I just feel like you don't even care about mom talk outside of posting. Ha ha ha ha ha. And Whitney goes, just cause I told Jen what you said. She goes, you go around the whole group telling everyone's everything.

And she goes, well, I didn't say the white trash thing. You did. Oh, fucking Whitney. Oh my God. Do you not get the point? She does not get the point. And she goes, well, I didn't say the white trash thing you did. Oh, fucking Whitney. Oh my God. Do you not get the point? She does not. Yes.

So then Jesse tries to come in. She's like, I think what she's saying is like, we give information, like we'd say information that Whitney like repeats it to people and makes us look bad. And it's like, not okay. You know? And then like Whitney is like, she'll be close to us when she needs something. But if she doesn't need something and then She's not like that's my opinion

Jesse just drops the truth bomb in there out of nowhere until it goes Yeah, and that's why I just wanted to sit you down so you can express all of it So I know and like with you like I know you're trying to say you're not caring, but I find that hard to believe I think that you want to I think I just hurt you really bad. Like maybe I can't be your best friend right now, but I could still be here and there. She's still trying to make it about herself. Like it's literally somebody else fighting with her

and you're like, but let's talk about how it's about me and how I'm learning to like ask you how you are before I talk about myself. Don't be a broad lady. So then Whitney is like, I just don't know what's right or wrong anymore. I mean, am I not like supposed to tell people

what you're saying? I mean, I just don't get it. What's right and what's wrong? You're wrong, Whitney, you're wrong. And these girls, I like that they're all able to say very clearly like, this is exactly what you're doing. And she's like, but you're doing it. She's just such a little brat.

So now it's time for dinner. So they have to break up the fight and they're gonna all get ready for dinner. And then Whitney's just crying. She's like, maybe if I cry more, people will stop with me. No, the only way to resolve this is gonna be to admit that you did something wrong and to say you're sorry. Yeah.

She can't do it. It's just very tricky. There's so many arguments happening all at once. And so many that's like, there's so many things like interweaving. I'm like, wait, I'm trying to like, it's so hard to track everything that's going on except to know that Whitney is full of shit. So they're like, that's when you keep saying, I just feel like a pussy. I feel like such a pussy right now. And

Macy goes, I think Taylor was right though. When she said like you act like you don't care. You do. I know. Like sobbing. Okay. So Macy's like great birthday. Everyone's like sobbing on my empowerment weekend. So now we go to dinner, right? Whitney's still crying. She's like, yeah, baby birthday. So they arrive at dinner. Whitney is in another like queen about to be headed in the 1600s outfit. And now they're like, Demi is like overly gushing with happiness. Like, Oh my god, it's like girls night where I'm like having so much fun at girls night. Right? Everybody but Whitney.

So much fun. So much girls night. And when he's like at the edge of the table, just like, like just sniffling into her menu, like I'm having so much fun guys. I'm having, don't mind me. I'm just crying on the corner here. She's trying to get anybody to ask her how she's doing, but nobody will. To me, it's like, Oh my God, there's calamari on the menu. Hilarious. Trash. And then Whitney is like, it's just a bit lonely when you feel like all the friends that I, you know, that I thought I had, I guess they're not really my friends. You know, I'm looking into me and I'm just like, you're just like I'm fucking cloud nine right now.

I gotta go pee. Everyone's acting like it's fine, it's sad. So she gets up to go pee and she goes to a producer or she's crying. She's like, oh, oh, oh. So the producer goes over. When all else fails, go fake cry some more. Have you not noticed that that's not working?

What are you, five? My God. So the producer comes in acting like they actually give a shit. The producer's probably laughing internally, but she's like, oh, hey, what's wrong there, Wynne? And she goes, I thought I was stronger than that. I can't even sit there.

Like you can't, do you wanna try? Cause we do have a scene to shoot. So then, just like, oh, oh, oh, oh scene to shoot. So then I'm going to the bathroom. Okay. So then back at the table, Macy's like, I just like Whitney's like, I think she's like feels bad about things that she said. And to me it's like, yeah, I get it. But like literally me last night, like,

I mean, she needs to feel the sting of what her actions bring to people. So how does it feel Whitney? How does it feel crying in the bathroom? Just like refusing to have any kind of pity. And then Whitney does the ultimate manipulation. She's like, give me the birthday cake. And she comes out she's like, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday. And she has toilet paper. She literally is stealing attention off of your friend's birthday song to point out how sad and depressed you are and everybody else made you that way. She's the ultimate, and you're doing it in a clown costume. I fucking love it.

And she's crying, and she's got toilet paper stuck on her shoe. She's got toilet paper stuck to her shoe, and's got toilet paper stuck to her shoe and the camera does a close up of it. Oh my god. Oh, she goes, when I'm in the wrong, I was fucking, you know, I know what I'm in the wrong. I was fucking not wrong. If this is what mom talk has turned into, I don't want to do this anymore. I don't even know if these friendships are worth fighting for. And everyone's like cheering and happy for Macy

But Whitney's crying and sad. Can she even continue on with mom talk? Oh My god, you guys what's gonna happen to mom talk? Well, then we see the coming this season, which is not two episodes and kidding and two episodes and kidding. And it looks like Whitney is just like, fuck all of you then. Like Whitney really likes her guns and it's just like, I'll have my own show then. She pulls like a Christine from selling sunset or a Stasi from early Vanderpump rules where she's like, I don't need this show. And then it becomes Whitney against the entire group, which I'm totally down for. Yeah. This is a, we're only up for it.

What, up for it or down for it? I am up and down for it. No, I am in all directions for it. It's a great season. I'm loving this show. Yeah, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We will be back with a lot more moms of TikTok, apparently,

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