Watch What Crappens - #2589 RHOP 0902: Conflicting Obligations

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

The ladies must choose between Karen’s award ceremony and Gizelle’s GNA event on The Real Housewives of Potomac.  Someone’s bound to be upset, but it’s great for the audience! To watch this recap on video, listen to all of our bonus episodes, and join in our new community chat, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one, the only, Mr. Ronnie Caron. I'm so sorry, did you hear that? Yeah, that's why I laughed. I'm so sorry. Did you hear that? Yeah. That's why I laughed. I had my microphone muted. I did what you told me to do to mute my damn microphone. How embarrassing. Okay. Start over.

Unlike you. So no, no, no. That was hard over. No, I want the burp. I want the burp. I want the burp. I loved it. I was very burped forward in his life.

I was so happy that you burped. No, I don't even burp. I don't want people to know I burp or fuss. I don't do either of those things or poop either. I'm a perfect person. Well, that is we are over here every once in a while. If we start over, you're in charge of downloading this video and giving it to sweet, sweet. No, go ahead. Just move forward. Whatever.

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So everyone go check that out. I'm sure it's going up this week, but I probably should promote that after I've recorded it. So the better a timetable for you all, but that's something to think about for this week, which is very exciting. Okay, great. Uh, so let's get into it. Real Housewives of Potomac episode two of season nine, double trouble. I was, I have to say very emotionally involved in this episode. And I was like, this episode

was better than anything we saw last year. I fully believe that Potomac is back. Now, you know, I love making a big proclamation these days. I don't know what it is. I'm in my proclamation era, but I'm feeling really strongly about it. Well, that's good. So, let's start. We are at Giselle's attitude party. Um, they've just confronted Mia about being a bad mother by bringing basically all of her shit on camera about the kids, right? Is that why she's a good mother? And so she has gone to the bathroom like they're completely wrong. I think that they, I mean, who does that? Like attack somebody about being a bad mother at a hat party? I mean, maybe not a place to do it.

I will say, I don't know that I dis I'm not going to call her a bad mother. I'm not going to ever say that, but I do think that she's, she shouldn't be bringing all this shit on. It's so, it's so fucked up. Especially this. I don't even think they were talking about the DNA test, but I think if they were talking about the like, let's take a DNA test for our kid and put it on TV. I don't love that. And it makes me feel weird somewhat agreeing with Giselle. But then I have to remember Giselle is just being evil for sport and tearing this girl down and Mia deserves to live her happiest life too. So you know what, I really don't know how I feel. happiest life too. So you know what, I really don't know how I feel. I feel like it's very messy. And I think it's,

I feel like it is careless as a parent to bring these very sensitive issues onto a national platform. Um, because, uh, it could be, it could be dicey for the kid, but you know, also I'm not a parent. So what do I know? Um, but either way, I think the damage mostly is what the parents hear, right? Because it's the parents judging you in the carpool line or whatnot, because, you know, everyone says, oh my God, you know, these things happen

and the kids are tortured at school. And part of me is like, well, are the kids watching the Real Housewives? I mean, and then that cracks me up because I would have been that kid to be watching the Real Housewives and just going into the school. Because, you know, even adults are really influenced by what we watch on TV. And a lot of times people will start watching housewives and you know that

they've gotten really into it because you'll be like, Oh, hey, um, you parked a little bit over the line, the big, Oh, really? Well, maybe you should think twice before you come at me about something when you should be looking at your own family Have you talked about I have a child in my car. Are you trying to do this in front of my children? Oh, yeah, like we all get so much more dramatic just from watching these drama queens on TV and I like to imagine a little kid just walking into school like oh Really? You're calling me late. Well, maybe you should have given me a better reason to get here early.

I see no reason to get to your class early. Ma'am, just don't come for me unless I send for you. Yeah, I don't think that these concentrate today. I have a new single coming out. I don't really think that these shows have made me more dramatic, but I did go to the farmers's market this morning and when I was buying a squash, I did say, children are off limits. So maybe I am getting a little affected by it.

They're like, sorry. Yes, I'm not good enough. Well, guess what? You're not coming to my bagel stand. How about that? So anyway, so Mia is crying in the bathroom and Wendy at the back of the table is like, at the core of this group, we're all mothers. And I just think that that was a law.

And Giselle's like, well, I'm not saying she's not a good mother, rah. I'm just shaming her for being a bad mother, rah. And yeah, Karen was like, oh, that wasn't my intention at all, did I call someone a bad mother. And yeah, I was like, Oh, that wasn't my intention at all. Did I call someone a bad mother? I was just trying to get you to forget that I drove drunk. Oh, damn it. Did I just say that?

I hope I didn't remind you. Me as a terrible mother. Yeah. And so Gisele's basically like, you know, when Gordon went to TMZ, it was clear that he was angry and hurt. And you know, you know, I think that, you know, she was like that because she has a new guy in her life. And we see like TMZ articles and stuff. And Wendy is telling us like, oh, me. Well, he could be hurt all he wanted. From what I remembered,

he spent all of their money in possibly illegal ways and got kicked out of the family business and then yelled at her a lot and disrespected her. So I don't really think that I'm too worried about what fucking Gordon is thinking about TMZ. I'm not concerned either. Leave it up to Gisele to be feeling for the most terrible man, you know? Not the most terrible man, but a kind of terrible man. So then Mia's telling us, this is what Karen likes to do. She likes to deflect, but to be questioning me about whether or not I was protecting the

kids, it's disheartening. And you know, it hurts. That's like an avenue that I don't want anyone to ever be able to question my babies. Okay. My babies, they're good. They're good. I'm like, yeah, but you know, it's like this poor kid, if it winds up that G is the dad,

then this is just like out there on permanent record and they'll get back to the kid. It'll maybe create like a sense of doubt and confusion. I just am like, you know what Mia? I'm sorry, this was sloppy of you. I'll just say it. I have no problem judging parents, okay? It's like, you can't, don't judge me. Kids are rough limit. Don't judge me as a parent. Guess what? I'm sorry. This was sloppy of you. I'll just say it. I have no problem judging parents. Okay.

It's like, you can't don't judge me. Kids are off limit. Don't judge me as a parent. Guess what? I'm judging and I guess what I am. Yeah. Guilty of sloppiness. I get to judge you as a parent. Guess why I pay property taxes and those property packs taxes pay for your school.

So I am the village that's raising your child. So guess what? The village has a say. If you want to take the village's money, then the village has to say if you want to take the villages money, then the village has to say, okay, you know, for every, for every person who comes up to me and says, so you and Dom don't want to have kids ever, ever. I get to say, so you don't want your child to have a healthy childhood ever, ever.

Yeah, yeah. If it's so warrants, I get to fucking say whatever I want to. Also, I love that they keep like Mia, how could you talk about getting a DNA test on TV? And then it cuts to her kid, like on a bouncy ball, hopping around in the dinosaur head, like the happiest child ever. They're like, Mia, don't you think this might affect your kid? And then it's him just flying in the air with a little balloon, like, I am the happiest little boy that's ever lived. Yeah. Like can we just get 900 shots of this kid looking as happy as possible so we at some point in the season we could just cut to him sobbing on

a curb somewhere because basically what's going to happen so Giselle's like okay I know they are not here so let's move on with the attitude situation because we have a lot of prop humor to get through this afternoon. Nah. So she resumes the doling out of the hats, which is thankfully swift and, you know, it does not take 10 minutes of our time.

So Giselle first approaches Wendy and says, our relationship has been in the bucket, dah, and I'd like for us to get to a better place. So let's get together tomorrow, wa, so we can, you know, try to do that. And in the meantime, I'm going to give you a bucket hat, da, to represent da, our relationship, ah. And Ashley's like, very trendy, and I know because I own a fashion line. And Wendy's like, well, my name is Wendy and I'm the best of all girls at the table and everybody wants to fill up my breasts.

She shows off happy and mess. And then Giselle's like, no. No, they don't. So then there's another hat, it's called the queen. And of course Giselle gives that to herself. And, and then she just sort of is like for everyone else, she's like, you all are new and are not cast members. And we don't know which one of you is going to be a friend of

which one's going to be a cast member. So you're all going to get a Derby hat because welcome to the Derby. So then Mia comes back sniffling and cares like, I'm glad Mia's back. Mia's back everybody. Let's all talk about what a wonderful mother Mia is. Hmm? Mia, is there a pole for you to hang from

while we compliment you? You're a good mama, Mia. So Dozel is like, Mia, I'm happy that you came back. I'm sorry. I definitely did not want you to cry and run out of here. I do not think that you're a bad mother, just a bad person. Nah. And Karen's like, Oh yeah, me too.

I've seen you with your kids. I've seen you with your kids and you're wonderful with them. And they seem very happy. And that's how I saw your son. He was flying, speeding by on top of a real life Tonka truck with a dinosaur head on. He looked very, very happy. It was very, very, are you saying the Tonka truck was dangerous? Not done for my children. Is someone here talking about Tonky B? No, get out of our show, Lady from Chimp Crazy. So, um, have you seen, have you seen Lady from Chimp Crazy, Tanya? Have you seen her Instagram? She started an Instagram.

I need to go follow it. I have not seen it. It's her. She's like, well, here, here I am. I mean, I'm here on Instagram. You told me you wanted me to come here. So I'm here. So hi everybody. I don't know what I'm supposed to do on here, but you know, it's really me. So if you think it's somewhat different, it's not, it's me from Chimp Crazy. So if you want to know anything, just ask me some questions. My husband's are going to dinner right now. Yeah, we're going to have some dinner.

Okay. Well, I guess I'll talk to dinner right now. Yeah. We're going to have some dinner. And okay. Well, I guess I'll talk to you later then. I have not seen this Instagram, but I just know that was like not just a hundred percent accurate. That was like 150% accurate. That was, I just visualized the whole thing from like a low angle, sort of shaking. Yeah.

Yeah. I love her. I love her so much. I'm going to a costume party and we have to dress up, which I'm horrified I hate doing that and I really want to do her I want to be her but just I don't have the energy That's a lot. That's a lot to do that. I just got tired even thinking about that in Instagram. I'm like, it's so tiring Well, anyway, Mia, I just want to Mia. I think you're a great mother Look me in the eyes look me in the eyes Mia and I'm gonna say okay You have to put your head diagonally. There you go. Now you're looking at me in the eyes

There you go. You're a great mother and Giselle's like, you know, by the way, Jacqueline doesn't have a hat so they go back to Jacqueline to give her a hat and Because she's back in the group and Jacqueline's like I should never have left in the first place So then they take a group photo and they sort of just like wrap up the scene on their hats and having fun. And then we had over to Karen and Ray's house another day. And Ray is like, I'm making coffee. And Karen's like, Ray, what are you doing on my coffee machine?

Doesn't have a crank. No, it uses electricity, Ray. Do you understand the concept of electricity? I'm not sure. I'm not sure, Karen." And he's made it way too black. And she's like, this is all it's got. It's trying to kill me. So then we go over to Mia's and Jeremiah and Lulu, literally the hap- or Juju, sorry, Jeremiah and Juju, the happiest children in the world the popsicles so happily yeah they really are and me is like I love you I'm so proud of you guys I'm so proud of both of you are you ready for summer can I get a high five do mothers do that and then we have Giselle arriving at a

restaurant and this is going to be her and Wendy. So she gets there, Wendy joins. Wendy's like in a full on look, like big shoulders and everything. And she's like, I smell gas. She's like, I don't smell gas. Ah, and she's like, well, no, I smell gas. Not like car gas, but like fart gas. You don't smell the gas.

She's like, ah, no. Look at Giselle's face. Okay. it's always it's always like that. Just haven't been paying attention. I love this Wendy comes to like, where are they like an eyeball pain or something and she comes in probably little yo story, like a little skin tight, like I don't even know what you call them. I would call the biker shorts. I mean, I don't know what you call them. I would call them biker shorts. I mean, I don't know what you call it.

Like little, little tiny latex pants and like a crop top and then gigantic white feathers. Like ma'am, you're here for like a packaged croissant. I know. Your chicken club has just been, uh, microwaved and here it is. Yeah, ma'am. your chicken club has just been microwaved, and here it is. Yeah, ma'am, this is a Wendy's. And so Gisele does that thing where she's like, hold please, hold please, I'm looking at my phone.

Nah. And so she just does a little swiping. And so Wendy's like, okay, well, I guess I will do my makeup. So she starts beating her face while Giselle does her phone. I'm like, okay, you two, we get it. But here you are. So let's let's get a move on. Okay. So Wendy is saying that this is a big deal. Because Giselle is the one is has invited her to lunch and Giselle is the same

person who refused to have any touching. Obviously a flashback to Karen's new beginnings party where Giselle's like, No, thank you. No, thank you. No touching. No touching. No would see a flashback to Karen's new beginnings party where she's like, no, thank you. No, thank you. So, um, so now they are going to, you know, like talk things over and everything. So they order some food and so it's like, so Wendy, I'm not coming to this conversation with any isms or any nothing. I just feel like whatever you feel I want to listen to and hopefully it will be reciprocated. I love that. I'm not coming here with any isms. Okay.

Let's... It's a succinct way to get it. Now, listen, I'm not here to accuse you of botulism, hedonism, or bichism. It's not why we're here. We're here to eat. Hold on. I have a text. I have a textism. Hold on, please. Hold on. You know, I am someone who enjoys altruism. Oh, whoops, that was an ism. Apologies. Can I get my croissant rolled over here or are we engaging in ableism? I'm just, I can't think of ism words right now. I think it's funny. I would have loved to have done this. I would have loved to have done this for five minutes, come up with ways to wedge in isms into this. Well, I would call you an old fuddy duddy, but I don't want to engage in ageism.

Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to the So, um, she's not gonna have any isms here, okay? It's time for a commercial, it's time for a Crappins commercial. In a quiet suburb, a community is shattered by the death of a beloved wife and mother. But this tragic loss of life quickly turns into something even darker. Her husband had tried to hire a hitman on the dark web to kill her.

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This server just wants a way out. I mean, what do you think is going to happen? You're going to get discovered and then get put on real house. So I said Potomac is wet like a way everyday waiter. What are you going for here? So that's what you call opportunism. So you know, by the way, they order oysters. If a restaurant smells like farts, I'm not going to order the oysters.

I'm telling you that right now. Those are two concepts that are not good together. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, he's like, well, we have oysters from two different places, actually. So one from Maine and one from local. One from Maine and one from the party city down the block. Yeah, I know. I need more specific than local. I don't need like

is it from the reflecting pool? I don't need the DNA. I was gonna say DNA coordinates. What am I trying to say? I don't need a coordinates. I don't need a coordinates. I don't need a DNA. I will not eat this until I know who's fathered me as child. Thank you. Oh my goodness. It's the oyster. I am saxophone oyster is true.

So they are eating these oysters in the farty restaurant and Giselle's like, well, there is no room in for friendship when you talk to somebody in a demeaning way, that's all I'm saying. And when she did this because they get the, they get the oysters and Giselle takes her oyster out and starts fork and kniving the oyster on the plate. Right? Is that what she was doing? And Wendy goes, no, why are you eating it like that? That's not how you're supposed to do it. You're supposed to just shook it and then she goes, Wendy, it is not a good way to start a friendship by demeaning someone.

I'm like, well, you're not you're scolding her. Is that a good way? I don't think it was about the oysters. I love to think it was about the oysters. Cause I think that before the oysters arrived, Giselle was saying how, you know, Wendy, when, when we're fine, when you're fine, everything's fine. But when you're angry, it's like, you're really condescending. And so I think she was just picking up saying like, yeah,, being, I love, but I love the idea that she was like, really touchy about how about No, she does. She does in a minute. So then the waiter comes

and brings the oysters. And Giselle, it's in right here in our notes, Giselle picks up an oyster and uses the tiny fork to stab the inside and bring it into her mouth. And Wendy stares at her and says, Why are you eating it like that? You're supposed to suck it. And she says, Don't do that. A lot of times it doesn't come out of the neck. And she's like, So you eat it like that? She was, there's no room for a friendship when you talk to somebody in the demeaning way. That's all. So I think it was the oyster. I don't know. I'm like, I felt like my memory of this very important scene is that she was eating the oyster strangely.

Wendy was laughing like, what the fuck are you doing? And Gisele's like, I have to do it this way because sometimes they don't shuck it properly, whatever the dialogue is here. And then it's like, huh, amusing moment. Now let's get back to what we were saying before. Oh, I was like, wow, that's a really good idea about- We'll have to go back and look at the tail of the tape to see if Giselle was having a direct

reaction to Wendy's oyster criticism or not. Either way, both are entertaining. And we will find out. Brought me more. We'll find the answer to this very pressing dilemma. We just sucked all the entertainment out of that one. We're like, wow, let's take an entertaining show and just suck it dry and all of that. So Wendy's like, I can receive that, but however, it's unfair to police how we respond to things, especially when someone came knocking at your door.

I always see flashbacks of Ashley and Giselle trying to stir up drama about Eddie and extramarital affairs. Right. And they were totally in the wrong, right? They were absolutely a hundred percent in the wrong. But you know, she uses the analogy, especially when you're not the person that comes to the door. Now, listen, people come to the door. I don't want to talk to you. I had a neighbor who came up here the other day like, I need a signature about this one-way street situation. I wanted to kick him down the hill, you know, and I could have. I could have been like, you're fucking with me when I'm very busy, sir.

I told you I was busy. Get the fuck out of here. You idiot. You fucking pasty ass. You literally look like a wet cracker. You look like a cracker that's been dipped in chowder. Okay, get off of my fucking lawn. Stop making him delicious.

I know, right? You look like a cracker that's been dipped in a fresh chowder on a cold night when all you want is a bowl of warm soup. Well, I could have yelled, I could have been really rude because he was taking my time by being an idiot. Okay, like we're not going to change the one way so that your daughter

can get to work more easily, sir. It's dangerous. That will not be one way. Anyway, I could have told him fuck you, sir, get off my lawn. But you know, I didn't I was like, okay, hand it to me. Just I'll sign it. Just please, I gotta go. I didn't I didn't hug him. I mean, I did give into him. But I'm just saying like this. Okay, let's say this instead, a salesman comes to your door. You could just say no Thank you, or you could be like get the fuck off my goddamn mom. What the fuck do you think you're doing here? You idiot this says no soliciting. What's the point? Just say no. Thank you and close the door, you know

Sorry nevermind go ahead Sorry, nevermind, go ahead. That's all. I just want to go now, honestly. I'm in an odd place today. I just want Chowder. I just had Chowder on Friday. I had, I literally had your analogy. I literally had, I was putting little crackers into Chowder.

Yeah. So, Giselle is like, no, I'm not trying to police how you respond to people. I just don't like it, which I feel like is a really like that's a really good unassailable point. No, you can respond any way you want to. I just don't like the way you respond. That's it. And when he's like, oh, okay. Now you put it that way.

In all fairness, I can say I don't like the way I feel the way I feel like you sometimes try to alienate people. And then we see examples of that. And so Giselle's like, okay, I'm glad you brought that up. Because if I don't like you, I don't want to speak to you, then I will say to you, if you if I do have an issue moving forward, which I hopefully won't, but if I do, I will tell you what it is, which is one of the great housewives fallacies of all times. You know what, I'm so glad we solved this. And going forward,

if you have an issue, just come to me about it. Yes, I will do that. Let's help. Well, the thing here is that she's placating Wendy because she does not want to be sitting here with Wendy. So she's just going to get through this and get out of there. Because the fact is, Wendy's giving in too easily and just saying, okay, whatever you say that you'll change it, let's just do that. Because really Gisele never doesn't say what's on her mind. She did say what was on her mind. What was on her mind is that her husband was probably cheating on her.

And that's why she got all this surgery. What was on her mind was really fucking rude. And she had no problem saying it to her face and being a total asshole about it. So Giselle's like, okay, in the future, I'll say it to your face. But you've always said it to her face. That's not the problem. The problem is that you're an asshole. Could you be less of an asshole?

That's the question that Wendy needs to ask. In order to move on, could you do me this one thing? Be less of a dick. Could you do that? Listen, yeah. And they're basically like two generals of war who all their soldiers have been killed off because they're like, okay, Gisela's lost Robin, Wendy's lost Candace. They have just barely survived by the skin of their teeth. So they're basically like, okay, like we should probably, we should probably move on. And also

there's probably a certain amount of it that's like, like we were kind of fighting battles on behalf of our sidekicks. And now that they're gone, we can just actually bury the hatchet on this because it's too stupid. Yeah. But I did like Giselle's answer here when Wendy said, well, I feel like you alienate people. And she was like, if I don't like you, I'm not going to talk to you. like you alienate people. And she was like, if I don't like you, I'm not gonna talk to you. I mean, because yeah, I alienated you because I don't like you.

Like, what do you want me to do? Like sit there and yammer on with you? I don't like you, because that's how I am. If I don't like somebody, I'm not gonna be mean, but I'm not gonna like sit around and talk to them, you know, so I don't know. I give them both pluses, but I think Giselle got away with more in this sit down because Wendy really

didn't have to give up anything. Gisele didn't promise to do anything except call her an asshole to her face, which she already does. So Well, it's also a realization, like, why are we going after each other when there's literally 16 new people in our cast that we could be attacking instead? Let's get friends again. Yeah, these girls are, they're obviously auditioning girls to come take our jobs.

Let's take them down, you know? Yeah. So Gisele is telling us that maybe we are a little bit bestie-ish, and Wendy's like, no, we're not besties. So they laugh. And then Gisele is like, by the way, how did you feel about yesterday? And Wendy's saying, you know, like it was really good

that they came together for Karen and that they really needed it and that Mia was really her and everything. And she's also like, well, I'm not questioning her as a mother. I'm just saying I don't want to deal with none of it. And just saying that none of it should be here is all my point.

And also she's a bad mother, but I'm not questioning her as a mother. Yeah. So what does she mean by this? She just doesn't want it on this. She doesn't think it should be on the show. I think that's what she's saying. Like it shouldn't be part of our like discourse. Well I saw a comment that I thought was so good. It said something like, oh wow, this season Giselle is really showing an arc. She's moving on from talking about people's relationships

to talking about them as mothers. But that was so funny and well said, you know, Gisele has always just got to be nasty. Yeah. So Wendy is, she's like, so have you met Ink? And Gisele says that Karen's met him and everything. And Karen, Gisele goes, Karen said that when they met, she looked over and didn't see anybody because he was too short. So she had to look down. Oh my gosh. And she goes, is that why they pose like that

in the pictures? And then we see another picture of her standing behind him and he's standing way forward so they can get a perspective thing. DJ Applebox. DJ Applebox. Poor guy. You know, look, it's bad enough.

I, you know, I stand for short kings. I don't think it's fair to be mean to people based on their height. Men really do get it for their height, but you're not helping yourself by naming yourself INC. I mean, what are you an LLC? Get the fuck out of here with that name. Come up with something else. It's just stupid. You can't be short and have a stupid name. Yeah, that's true. You can only have one.

Pick one. Yeah. Pick one. So now we go over to Stacey's house and she's in the kitchen with Aura. And Aura is the au pair, I guess, for the kid. So they're gonna like, this is a like, let's really learn about Stacy and Stacy's home life scene. So basically we see they're talking about arepas and everything and like teaching Arabella,

her daughter, how to speak Spanish. And Stacy tells us that she was originally from Detroit, but then she's been all over. She lived in Philly with QVC, and then they have a house in Munich because her husband's German, and all this fun stuff. Yeah, we got some messages last week that were saying, because I was saying, you know,

is she one of those that just moved here for the show? Because the show is classic for that, or we were talking about that. And they were saying, no, no, she's actually from there. there she's lived there forever she just moved away for a while for work so she's legit she's actually too legit to quit um she'll be on the show forever she can never quit i have oh yeah that's totally how it works. Yeah. So anyway, uh, she talks about how her husband's separated, but they're still trying to co-parent very in a civilized way. So he actually lives in the house and they have two houses and they're like,

you know, they like, she tries to be like down in the DC place while he's home. And then when he's traveling, he's, she goes up to the Potomac place. Um, and they're just kind of trying to find that balance and... Yeah, these two, I mean, wow, they have, they are separated and they live in the same house and they're both dating other people in the same house. I mean, this is a modern ass family, that's for sure.

Right. And it seems like, it sounds like everything is fairly functional and things have not gotten terrible yet but they will because she's on TV now in this capacity and so it'll go downhill pretty soon I imagine. Well and also she's not telling her kid which is another housewife thing. Yeah, I'm not gonna tell her. I don't think it's the right time to tell her that we're separated.

Yeah, I'm gonna wait for that to come up. You're on television. You're on and you know that there's that one little housewives watcher of school is like, well, guess what, not only was your mother like the attitude, but she is not even married to your father. So I don't even know what you're thinking here. You better back it up, bitch. You better clip, clip, clip. All right, it will come out. Yeah. so then we go over to Karen's house and Kierna comes over Kierna is a new housewife

She got elevated to housewife role and Kierna is very sweet. I'm still surprised that she's a full-fledged housewife There's like a conspiracy theory in my mind That's like after she got injured in that brawl Bravo's like quick make her housewife so she doesn't sue us. That's my theory but you know I'm open to her being a good housewife etc etc. I'm just surprised she considering her big prior to the brawl her biggest impact last season was that she had like diarrhea and was upset that Giselle was the only one who asked her about it. Yeah.

Well, I will say also in her favor, she is fabulously dressed. Yes. She's showing way more personality now. She really is like watching a film. She's beautiful. She looks professionally costumed. I mean, she looks freaking stunning. She is gorgeous.

Yeah. I've got my hopes up, but we'll see. So Karen and of course, Karen is best friends with the newbie because Karen is always just trying to suck the stem cells out of whatever baby cast member she can get her hands on. And, you know, I'm your man to all you just ran into a tree. So no, you need to get off from that shit. Okay. You're not teaching anybody shit. The best type of friend. She's fiery. She's spicy.

And the incident, GNA is certainly part of my heart. And we see flashbacks to all that and that the whole mess and Karen is telling us that, um, you know, out of all it, we just continue to build our friends. You and it's like, well, she's like my girl. Um, and Karen, they're basically are like saying cheers and everything. They have like a lemonade toast and Karen, um, is during the,

as evidence of how much Karen loves Kierna, Kierna calls her during the interview and Karen's like, oh my goodness, Karen is calling. Hi girlfriend. how are you? Oh my goodness. It's so amazing that I get to be friends with such a young person. Hello. You know what's crazy? My phone is on do not disturb, but when Kierna calls, it comes through. That's how close we are. That is how close I am with young Kierna. We're just best friends, tied at the hip, been friends forever. I close my eyes, I'm thinking of Kierna. I wake up, I'm thinking of Ray's Farts. Actually, the second thing after that is, God, I wish Kierna was here

to wave away Ray's Farts. Always on my mind. And then I think, I wonder if Kierna can make better coffee than Ray, because last time my chatty made a horse coffee. I don't even know what horse coffee is. Is it coffee that horses drink? Or is it coffee that horses make? Either way, Kierna probably makes a better cup. Mm. So Kierna's like, Oh, my God, Karen, sorry.

So, um, now cut back. They start talking about her man, and we see a picture of her with her man, Greg, and they are working on their way to cohabitating. And she's like, you're gonna live together? That is huge girlfriend. Call me for the house warming. I can't wait to have wine o'clock with you.

Just me and you girlfriend. Possibly pajamas, curlers, curlers in our hair. Can we watch Grease late at night? Just me and you sitting on the bed. Have any zits to bark? our hair? Oh, can we watch Greece late at night? Just me and you sitting on the bed having these bits about? You know, I always was called the stock of Channing of my high school. And now I feel like I understand it. So she says, Karen is saying like, Greg is my man, man, man, man, man. Yeah,

I love him. Like, I love Greg so much. And we see them together. Kissing, you know, hugging, kissing with boxes boxes, moving in, all that kind of stuff. And they are basically, they're building a house together from the ground up. So she's moved in with him while they're building their house. Yes. So she is excited she doesn't have to pack her little hoe bag anymore. So she is talking about how Greg won't let her keep everything because she's got so much stuff, you know, and Karen's

like, Oh, I did something sort of similar with Ray. I said, Ray, if you want me to live with you, I'm gonna have the engagement ring first, eh, Ray? And she's like, Yeah, I mean, I'm like, this is the house is cute, but where's the ring? But she did already move in with him. So yeah, it's like you and Greg. Karen says, Yeah, my mother is like, this is cute. But like, where's the ring? Oh, your mother? Hmm. Yeah, basically, people who are similar to your age, Karen also say the same thing. What? That's ridiculous.

How could I be a similar age to your mother? Your mother should come in here and mother us both. Did your mother have you when she was your age? Was it a simultaneous birth? I've never heard of that before, because as far as I can tell, we're the same age. So then to talk to Karen, obviously, and she's like, oh, I'm feeling okay, you know, little twitters. But that's nothing new.

I'm sorry, is it still going? Is this eye open or am I blind out? I can't really tell. Is it open? Is it open now? You know, my eyeball permanently lives on my upper chin now, but that's okay. I'm celebrating life because I just did the triple 20 plus one. Like, wow, you're this is get this phrase is getting clunkier and clunkier. It's gonna be

the triple 20 plus eight minus three. 2020 22. And she goes, did you know about that? And Karen was like, oh, my party. And she's like, oh, you didn't get invited. So it turns out another party that she's not been invited to. We see a flashback to Karen and Giselle having lunch or something. And Karen asks about Kierna or K and Giselle. So I've got to check because I can only have a certain number of seats to me. What this reads as is It is just all saying like is she part of our cast because I have seats for everyone who's like

The auditions and if she's not auditioning to be part of our cast. She can't be at the party Probably or I think Giselle's being snotty because this girl was in a fight and even if she didn't start the fight You know how Giselle is she's like that that. It's a fight I have to bring security. Yeah, if we have key under there, that's true That's what I suspect but who knows? So anyway, Karen says you should invite her and she's like, okay I'll make sure that I can see if she can come but then she does not invite her right, so So Karen's like Yeah, Karen Karen tells like, yeah, Karen, Karen tells Karen about the GNA event. And Karen is saying, hopefully you are

invited to that, you know, and Karen was like, no, no. And it was really the first GNA event was really humiliating to me. So I'm okay to skip this one. Yeah. I was like, well, you know, I was, so now she's, she's like, so how are the girls, Karen, well, what are they going to do? And give me an award every time I Twitch. Hmm.

It's just a Twitch. She's like, no, Karen, you were drunk. Did they get, did they clobber you about your drunk driving or not? It's like, oh, the girls, they were great. But you know, right after the accident in hindsight, it was probably a little soon for me because it didn't have the flavor of Inquisition. I said, you're going to give me the flavor of Inquisition. Could you also give me the flavor of a little grenadine to make it taste like an Inquisition temple at least? Flavor of Inquisition, you know, and there's lots of questions about the accident from

B.N. Jocelyn. I want to know who's the real bitch in my life. And this is going to be Flavor of inquisition, you know and there's lots of questions about the accident from BN Jocklin I want to know who's the real bitch in my life And this is gonna be that moment because if you fuck me over it deuces like okay You're the one who was drunk driving so yes Bitches in my life. Well the most consistent from now on will probably be law enforcement. I'll tell you that. I know. Where is Shasha when we,

why do we not have Shasha this season? This is like Shasha's moment, take a victory lap. Like this is all Shasha has wanted for about seven or eight years now. Like, why do we not like get to see her relishing in this moment? Karen, I heard you had some trouble driving. Karen, I know you can't drive your car anymore,

so here's the hoverboard. Enjoy. We're going to have a sobriety party for Karen in my champagne room. Sa-sa. Is that a pun? So. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. Is that a pun? So. I was just doing that the other day randomly to myself walking around the home goods.

I was like, Oh wow, I like this frame. Is that a pun? Where did that even come from? Is that from a reunion? Right. Didn't she? She said, yeah, she said something in a reunion and Karen said, I won't take that. She said, Kevin, it's a pun. And Andy goes,

actually, that's not a pun. And so she made another slam later. And then she goes, is that a pun? Nope. That's not a pun either. It's like when somebody says, well, isn't that ironic? And you go, that's not ironic. And so they keep trying to come up with something ironic to say that they just never do it. Now we go to Stacey's house and Ashley shows up and they say hi they're gonna go on a walk and everything and Ashley's talking about how they met at the Fox 5 studio

and she bit ashes like she's like well you know like a bunch of those like newscasters like they all like that news voice that they like turn on like some of them like can't turn off and I think they're like Stacey's like one of those I was like you are like the squeaky wheel on a Costco car and can't turn that off. She really is. Ashley is like, and when she gets mad, she's like, when you try to take the cart too far into the parking lot and it just freezes up. Oh, I hate that.

So yeah, Stacey does have this. So it was a really good, it was a really good call. Cause Stacey's like, yes. Are you ready for a hike today? Great. I can't wait to go for the hike. Let's discuss race with each other. Shall we? Well guys, after commercial, Ashley and I are going to discuss race. Don't go too far.

So Ashley's like, so who got your grass? Do you got your grass? You know, I always got my grass. So I always see that. Really? So St Stacy's like, um, that's the funniest thing that you've ever. Well, like, I don't know who cuts my grass and I'm not even getting, she's like, why you don't know who cuts your grass? And then the producer's asking Stacey, who cuts her grass? Uh, I guarantee fast forward to the reunion, Andy Cohen, Stacey,

welcome to the show. Got to ask, did you find out who got your grass? And at home somewhere, Shasha is just gonna say, is that a pun? So Stacy's like, well, whoever it is, I'm grateful for that. She goes, I'm sure you are. Otherwise, you'd be out there doing it. God, we're off to a great start. you'd be out there doing it. God, we're off to a great start. I know. So, Ash is like, so does your husband take care of all your stuff and everything? And Stacy's like, well, I've been separated for over a year and we aren't at a finish line.

We are at we aren't at the finish line. You know what I mean? It's just, you're not living together because we are. She's like, y'all live here together? I'm like, Ashley, I don't even want to hear it from you. You you have lost the right to ask that question in that tone. Yeah, of all people, Ashley, you know, and she even says, girl, what are we doing? I know that when you live with somebody under the same roof, you still feel together in a weird way. Yeah, Ashley, you did. you should know you did it.

Okay. And then arguing it almost, actually, it's like, I feel like Ashley would say when you live with someone under the same roof, you feel together in a weird way. Also when you don't live with someone under the same roof, but you stay undivorced from them for two years, you also still like, feel like you're still with them in a weird way. Right. So, um, they're still going through mediation and stuff. So, Stacey's like, I wanted to

ask you, what is your nationality? Let's discuss that. She goes, well, my dad's white and my mom's black. And she says, so you're biracial. You're from the nation of biracial? And she's like, yes, I'm from biracial nation. And she was like, well, Arabella. And so Ashley's saying that she identifies as a black woman. And Stacey asked how she identifies the boys, you know, like, are they, would she consider them black? Would she consider them biracial? Yeah. And she, I think she does consider them to be black, but because they're really light skinned and they maybe don't have certain features or different features that like they're not really I think I think what Ashley's basically saying is that like they don't necessarily

see themselves as black or realize that they're black. And so they start talking about, you know, wanting to have black sort of presence for their kids. And in the case of Stacey, she wants, you know, she's concerned that her daughter is going to be raised not around a lot of black women. So she won't have those experiences that she had growing up in Detroit. Yeah.

And then she talks about her husband being German, and so she's very proud of so much of German culture, and she can speak the language, and she wants that same pride for her daughter in being a black girl. And so then she talks about growing up in Detroit, like she would go to all her cousins, and they were black, so they would braid her hair, and she had that experience. her cousins and they were black so they would braid her hair and she had that experience. But now she doesn't, you know, her kid doesn't. And so, she wants her daughter to know who she is. And she doesn't want people to tell her who she is. She wants her daughter to know. Yeah. So then Ashley starts asking about Stacey's dating life and she goes, okay, I am going

to be completely vulnerable. I love someone, but he is a devout Christian, so we are not intimate at all. And she's like, what? How long has it been? Well, it's been a couple of months and it's fine. It's totally fine. We've never even touched fingers. It's totally, I'm okay with it. I'm very happy with the situation. Stacey is so TV ready too. She just came TV ready. She's just like, okay, we've gotten the biracial discussion out of the way.

We can now move on to the romance section. Producers, are you ready? Let's change angles. I'm going to sit right over here. Great. Relationship. You had questions? She had a question. Okay, everybody, are we ready? I'm about to get vulnerable. Okay. It's my vulnerable moment. I don't want to waste it. Okay. So we got the commercial first

coming up after the break. I discuss my new relationship with TJ about Christian, who I haven't touched physically since I ever met him. We only have so many commercial breaks that we can put in. We're going to need to break this up somehow. Do you have maybe a shot of a dog that we cut to, maybe a dog walking in the park back. They just they just they just intersperse her story about her and TJ with like B roll from some crime scene stories.

Like I saw the person coming in over there and I thought he's never going to attack me. And then he did. That's what that's what people say when they saw TJ walking down the street, wanting to start a relationship with me. I don't know what I'm saying, Ronnie. I'm just going down a strange path

that I think I need to stop. So then she's like, okay, vulnerable moment. So yes, she has not had sex. And Ashley's like, wait a minute. No, I don't think they've even kissed. I don't think they've done anything. Yeah, that's a red flag. I'm sorry.

I get that people like wait till they're married or what. I mean, I get it, but not like that. Not to that degree. That's just something, there's something weird though. There's a broken penis maybe, maybe there's a low sex drive. Maybe they're getting it from somewhere else. But I'm telling you, no full grown male is going to say, No, I just

stayed back till we're getting married. I just I don't or at least guess or at least give me a hand job or I don't believe it. Yeah, I think it Okay, like I can understand the like, okay, if you made like a bow of like, you're not gonna have sex till marriage, I can get that and everything. But I feel like early on in a relationship, like not even having any sort of anything, not even making out, I don't know.

It's something seems a little off. I think red flag is definitely the dominant color that I'm seeing too. Yeah, I just, I don't buy it. I don't buy it. So, I mean, maybe there's other reasons that he doesn't want to have sex that I would buy that would be totally valid, but this I don't buy.

Maybe he has another family. Something, there's something, I'll go with anything. I don't know what it is, but I will not believe religion. That I will not believe. I just won't. Because we're watching this Mormon show and those are like the most religious out of the religious. I think. Yeah, they dress like a pioneers. Well, maybe no, they're not, but they're up there.

They're very religious. And even those girls are having sex at 20 and getting pregnant before they're getting married and stuff like that. I mean, there's just when it comes to sex now, I don't believe it, especially to someone who works out that much because we see him in the previews, and he's very cute, and he's very worked out. And I think when guys work out, especially they get way hornier, because there's a lot of testosterone that comes from that.

I'm sorry, I just don't, I don't know why I feel guilty for not believing it, but I don't believe it. I feel guilty too, because I feel like people are allowed to make choices that are not traditional, and they're allowed to go against the norm. And I actually applaud her for

being like, this is the state of our relationship. And like every relationship goes differently, but it does seem seems a little odd to me. And I know that there are also certain religious, you know, like I was just watching, was it like Jewish dating or whatever on Netflix, where someone was talking about how like she and her husband didn't touch, physically touch until their wedding day. And it was like, but it was so great because when they finally touched, it was like this big buildup. And like, I can understand that, but I just feel like in the, but they're not, to me, that's like, they're not modern dating. They're kind of like, old dating.. And so it's weird to see old school, like old world kind of dating.

And I feel like seeing people who are do having modern dating, but with super old world approaches, it's like my brain doesn't know any other response except to be caddy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I just don't believe it. I grew up very religious and I've never seen, I've seen people saying things, you know, also, maybe it's just something she's saying. Maybe it's something they're saying. I don't know. I don't know.

Who cares? We're belaboring it. Let's move on. So then, so Ashley, it's like, do you want to marry him? So Stacey says that they met at his audition to become a host at QVC and it was a genuine friendship. And then after six months, they both couldn't deny they wanted to be a part of each other's lives. And then we see them standing in front of one

of the most basic sets you can, which is in front of the butterfly wing wall, you know? Oh yeah, truly the worst. Butterfly wings, I think it's, why is it that that's the only thing that doesn't get vandalized? Where where? Where are the graffiti artists? What do you need them? I'm like resentful of real butterflies. Now I'm like, do you have to be at every event? Like I'm so sick of it. Like

what I do. I'm sorry to pollinate a flower over here. I also think what's so funny about the butterfly wing thing is how it just so shamelessly works. It's like, hmm, we need more we need more visitors to our store. I'm gonna paint some wings. I'm gonna paint some angel wings on our wall. Everyone's like, gotta take a photo guys. Angel wings on a wall. Gotta take a photo with it. Sorry I'm a guy I'm viral. I need people to imagine what it would be like if I were an actual angel. Sorry guys I can't help it. I gotta take the photo

So Ashley is like she hasn't had a new dick in 17 years and she's not seizing that pogo stick. Come on so She goes actually like but then what do you do? Which is also kind of funny. Like what could you possibly do other than have sex? You know? And so Stacy's like, well, we have a lot of fun. We go to church.

Really? I mean, that's what I think it's like. Do not marry this person, okay? She goes, we work out. She goes a lot. Going to church should not be the top of your list of things that you do. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, well, it'll be a fascinating relationship to see unfold.

Especially because she's kind of a sinner just for coming on to this show. Don't you think? I don't think that you can be a real real housewife without being a sinner. I mean, your job is to come on here and be messy and nasty and start fights with people. So I don't know. Yeah, it's, it's not gonna work out well. I'll tell you that right now. So now we go to, thank God, right? Thank God. When I watched it, I was like, Stacey, you are what we need. We need to, I need to watch a demise. That are what we need. We need, I need to watch a demise.

That's what we need. That's what the housewives are. Watching happy people become miserable over time. And I think this is a great starting point. Yeah, you've started a really great high point. And we're just going to watch that. Yeah, because there's no way this is working out. It'll be like watching the Winter Olympics. A lot of people going downhill. So now we go to Giselle's home and Karen arrives, the car drops her off. It says Karen's car service. And so she comes in and Giselle's making cookies, which is an ongoing thing between the two of them

since season one. There's a lot of issues. Season one was very preoccupied with the cookies and the cookie competition that we never actually saw, but we have a nice call back to that right now with the cookies. So Giselle comes over. Wait, is that true?

Karen comes over to Giselle. Karen comes over. Yeah. So then they compliment each other, etc. Cookie stuff. And then Giselle's like, well, I was looking to see how you got here. What's an Uber? What's a Ray? Because you had a driver, his name was Blue Eyes. Remember? And you remember remember you can't actually drive yourself far because you got a DUI America DUI like just use Giselle will say anything to remind Karen and the audience that she cannot drive because she got a DUI and Karen will remind everybody that Beyonce referenced her in the song she's like well, well, I had an Uber because of it. Listen, if Beyonce has an Uber, if Beyonce can Uber, so can I. I can Uber as well. Because you

remember, I'm basically Beyonce because Beyonce referenced the Black Bill Gates in one of her songs, which is basically referencing me. So me and Beyonce were basically as close as me and Keira now. My girl cowboy, Cara, I've been doing the do-si-do and the two-step ever since. I love you, B. I love you, girl. Texas Hold'em, one of my favorite songs. In this case, it refers to my driver's license being held.

Well, Texas Hold'em Up, which is basically what they did to me. I thought they were trying to arrest the tree. I said, you can't arrest trees. These are national treasures. This ain't Texas. Which is what I said to the officer when I stumbled out of my car. So um, well, your intentions were great. I'm having a non alcoholic drink for get really, really messy. Mr. That's the kind of messy that we need.

Would Keanu do that? This is a good time to mention that someone on can do that. Um, uh, someone on Twitter pointed out that when everyone holds up their champagne flutes, uh, but the title card parents is empty or it's full of water. I tried to see it. I couldn't quite see it, but they did a zoom in and you could see it. And that is honestly hilarious. So Karen's like, how could you come up with non-alcoholic alcohol option named after me?

And then they have her with water in her champagne. Mm. That's funny. So then, um, it just sounds like, oh, it wasn't today. It was giving people options. Uh, it's like, well, people can read. You already gave them options on the menu. Oh God, just can't help me, Shady.

But that's why I like her. So, it is so funny. Like I just love the way these two just snipe at each other left and right. And so Karen's like, you know, I did love the attitude thing, you know, but you gave Wendy a bucket and that was a bit much. She goes, well, first of all, Dr. Wendy, I spoke with her, just me and her spoke. And we had lunch, you know, in a real farty restaurant. And I chopped up some oysters and put them in my

mouth, you know, one of those sort of lunches. And you know, if you don't discuss things, be in the air, you assume things are. And so she's like, well, you know, I told her that when she has a conflict, she talks down to them. And she said she received it. And she said, we're going to try to do better. So what can I do? She's like, wow, look at that growth. Now listen, in my house, I have a chart against a door and I have a pencil and every time Kiana comes over, I mark it just to see how much she's grown. God, we're close. And she's also like, speaking of the party, ah, Jacqueline, before you got here, said that she had a lot of questions for you, but she didn't ask them. So have you see her and so camera reveals that Jacqueline is in a

time out. And the reason why is because there was a statement she made that said, look, I'm gonna wait until the verdict for the outcome. So we see a flashback of Jacqueline saying, you know, none of us saw what happened. So I don't think anyone should cast judgment, which I interpreted at that time to be like, we're like, we as a nice thing, like we have your back. We don't judge you. She said nothing wrong.

She said absolutely nothing wrong. It was like a, no, Karen, we would never judge you because there's not even a verdict. So you're in a safe space. That's what that meant to me. Yeah, she didn't say anything wrong. But I'll bet one of the producers was like, well, you know, that was Sadie was like, leave it to Karen to say, like, nobody should cast any judgment

is actually a negative thing. Karen's like, I want people to cast judgment. I want that judgment to be very pro Karen. That's what Karen wants. like, I want people to cast judgment and I want that judgment to be very pro-Karen. That's what Karen wants. Yeah. So then, basically, they start eating some cookies and stuff. And then we start talking about the shade of not inviting Kay. And she's like, there was no shade there. Our GNA event is this week and there's a cocktail hour. So come cocktailish and the National Brain Tumor Society that I'm partnering with, they'll also be there. So we find out about the change of GNA. GNA is moving out of athleisure where I would not say it made a splash, a ripple.

They haven't really entered it. Yeah. I think their websites still pretty much just sell stickers. GNA got in the car and they didn't dip their toes in the pool. They just entered the pool's location on Google Maps and drove a few feet and decided, let's go somewhere else today. Listen, they got as far as athleisure wear as the rest of us did. We put on athleisure wear and we stay in bed.

They put the W-H-E-R-E into athleisure wear. So they've decided that they're going to move towards health and wellness. And I think that they actually, I think the athleisure was like a ploy to cash in on something to try to capitalize on something, but at least this one has some personal backstory to it. Because since Giselle's dad passed from a brain tumor, she felt it was more meaningful to sort of focus on health and

wellness. So that's what what does that mean? Well, meaning like rather than only brain tumors, like what, what does that mean? It means that like, what are things that we like, rather than just like selling like a sports bra, like let's sell things that will be good for our bodies that will give us long lasting lives. I'm assuming. I'm new specifics. I don't know what the hell they're talking about. We're selling health and wellness be more specific. So I don't know what the hell they're talking about. We're selling health and wellness. Be more specific. Okay. Yeah, because I have a feeling it's gonna be vitamins

and a bunch of MLM shit. That's what that's what this is. This is sounding very Whitney Rose to me. Yeah. So then Karen's like, I love that this is happening for your father's memory. And so then Karen goes, oh, well, I'm ready. Okay, I got it. Oh, oh, oh. But I told you I was being given an award, right? Remember, mine is early on Friday, but I won't miss you are that I'll still come to your that as the credits roll.

Probably when they're thinking of the Canadian translation teams, I should be there holding a gigantic award. During the part where it says, Lisa Barlow has a promotional deal with Wendy's, I shall walk right in. So Karen tells us, well, the Tham Power Award is an award that is given to entrepreneurs in the community and who not only do business, but give back to the community

as well as on a social level. There's a social giving back, which means that you walk around the community and say, and hello to you too. That's what you call socially giving back. The femme power award. What? It sounds like something that's given out at the Abbey. To get to entrepreneurs in the community. I'm sorry. What's your business again? The candle people who do business perfumes.

Come on. And get back on a social level. Come on. So if you have like a say hello to someone and you're qualified. Yeah. Just I was like, I got an invitation to this like three months ago and guess who wasn't on the list. Karen, the freak huger So basically she straight-up says so people could make it so she she asked if she could do it

Yeah, she basically is like yeah, some people were being honored and couldn't make it So they called in Karen. So as she goes, and now there's so many citations, I don't even know how many. And then they flashed on the screen. She's like, Yeah, let's honor Karen. A deer comes in holding a scroll with all the citations on it. Here's all the citations driving vehicle while impaired by alcohol reckless driving in a vehicle and wanton willful disregard of safety and property driving the vehicle while impaired by alcohol, reckless driving in a vehicle, wanton, willful disregard of safety and property,

driving the vehicle while under the influence, failure to licensee, notifying. It's amazing. So anyway, Karen's basically like, well, you know, with everything that I'm going through, I don't even know what's going on, but I'll be at your event, I'll be at both, no problem. And then, then go, 6 a.m. the next day

and a text tone goes off. And Giselle is like, why am I waking up to a text from Karen? Nah, it's 6 a.m. in the morning, ah. To me and all the other ladies. And so the text reads, there are two events scheduled at the same time. I encourage all support to both events.

Transportation has graciously been offered by the foundation of transportation and also the owner of the, uh, the mini van has also be rewarded for running a mini van business and giving back by allowing women to go to two events at once. So this was a group text. She wrote everybody. Okay. Well, there's two events at once. So this was a group text. She wrote everybody. Okay, well, there's two events choose wisely bitches. And so now we have to see who's gonna choose who and just like I thought we were

friends. I just threw you a freaking birthday. This is not what friends do at all. And Karen tells us, well, I'm sorry it's on the same day, but should I not have my event because Giselle is having an event? No, I'm getting an award by some strange organization that's giving it for sort of generic reasons. That's important to me.

So then Giselle writes her shady response, which is no need for ladies to be running all over town. Please go to Karen's event. And when he's like, well, I'm not really sure what the award is. And the invitation on screen says the Femm powered inaugural award ceremony hosted by Emmy award winning WUSA9 anchor, Alison. I'm sure. So it's a local news lady coming up with her own damn award. And this is year one. Year one, a mother's day tribute on May 10th. What are they going to,

what are they going to congratulate Karen for getting rid of trees in an overpopulated area by trying to run one down? For redefining what it means to be on the road to success. Listen, there's no straight line to success. The road to success is many, many pay blurred lines. So many people stop trees from impeding on our success. Ladies, may I get a career? Are you real bitches in here? Are you real riches? You know, on my path to success, so many people said

Karen stay in your lane. And I said, absolutely not. I said the same thing to failure as I did to that road. I refuse to say it one lane. You know, sometimes the going is tough and sometimes you need a shoulder to lean on or in some cases to drive in. The same thing I'm telling you young ladies today, the same thing I told my car, keep climbing. Even if it's difficult at first. Unfortunately, my car never could climb that tree, but it tried that day.

It tried. You know, sometimes it's good to not have the guard rails. That's where when your car goes off the road, you just keep on going. No don'ts. Adam So then Gisele's like, how dare she? She is doing an event to compete with my dead father. I will use her dead parents against her now, as she is now defaming my dead father. Jason It's like, oh, God. Adam It's a battle of the passed away parents.

Jason I honestly, I am going to give the award to Giselle. I think Giselle, she, her event was on the books first. It is in honor of her dad, regardless of whether it's an MLM or not, it is in honor of her dad. And I think this is so shady and shitty of Karen. Karen just had an event. She just had a hat party event.

So, but like, this is so classic then, which is why they always have to be on the show together. Whenever I was saying fire Giselle, I was like, honestly, you can't, because Giselle and Karen, they're just too epic together. And I mean, it was classic because we got this fight and then we got Giselle calling security. It's like, is it the same guy too?

Probably. So now, so now, um, uh, uh, there are basically, uh, as the day of the event and everything, and, um, Giselle is doing a walkthrough and she loves everything. She's talking to someone from the National Brain Tumor Society, Dina, Deanna, whatever. And she's, uh, Giselle is talking about how, you know, she lost her dad and really was like, I didn't realize it was like

a 12 day thing. Or if they had mentioned it, I had forgotten that basically he had a CAT scan and 12 days later he had died. Which is really, I mean, that's traumatic. It's so sad, so scary, so awful. And so, like my heart really does go out to Giselle for that, that's just a really hard thing to go through.

And so this is really going to be to like, it's to honor all that and also this wonderful foundation that's trying to, you know, destroy cancer, kill all cancer, if you will, in a good way. So then, so Ashley comes and she loves the place and all that. And then just I was like, Well, I don't know how you feel about it. But I- Can I say something?

I didn't realize this at the moment, but looking at the notes now, Ashley walks in and she goes, oh my God, it's so beautiful. Wow, this is like so romantic. Actually, it's a fundraiser for her dad who passed away. And you're like, this is so romantic. Yeah. So Giselle is like, well, I don't want to even see none of them hoes talking about the ladies. She's like, listen, I invited them last week.

Everyone said they were coming. And this is some important thing. And everyone's treating this like a bar crawl. And she's like, well, I don't know how to approach a situation. I mean, Karen knew about this award. It feels intentional. Yeah. She goes, you know, and considering that Karen has been so vocal about relationships with parents. And then we do see some of this footage used against Karen. Cause at the start of this last week, at the start of the episode, Karen was again talking about how she doesn't feel like she truly processed the death of her parents. And we see footage of her again, talking about how she doesn't feel like she truly processed the death of her parents.

And we see footage of her again talking about how she's not going to go out because she's mourning, all that stuff. So Ash is like, I'm surprised that Karen is not respecting the sanctity of this event for Giselle. And honestly, I think that is also a fair point. So then Giselle's like, I'm even being nice to Karen. Does anyone need some Karen is a drunk with a DUI glass of water. It's a special brand for pop up for this.

I know I love to sell. She's like, I'm being so nice to Karen. I just had a party and tried to public humiliate her by having a non alcoholic thing named after her name and have everybody come at her about alcoholism. I don't understand what the problem is. So the start time is 7 30 and Giselle wants everyone to be there at 7 30. Now she's sort of hoping that they will show up there. But meanwhile, the rest of the ladies are showing up at a black Sprinter van. And this is hilarious because the women act kind of like so helpless in the situation,

like, well, I guess we have to go to Karen's. I mean, I think the producers were like, you have to go to Karen's first, then you will go to Giselle's. You cannot skip Karen's. So they're kind of like, oh, everybody, let's go. So basically the ladies take, take off for Karen's and it says that they'll be there or they're leaving at 6.33 PM. Dun, dun, dun. Yes. And Karen is saying, Oh, with everything that I'm facing with a ring, thisers articles being written about my character. And then we see headlines. Real Housewives, Karen charged with DUI following car crash.

That's not horrendous. Right. You, you ran into a tree after a, what are you saying? That's not slander. That's true. Yeah. It's not true. None of those headlines are mean.

Those are factual headlines, ma'am. Yes. Um, and so she's like, well, to be seen in my community for who I am, for who None of those headlines are mean. Those are factual headlines, ma'am. Yes. And so she's like, well, to be seen in my community for who I am, for who I truly am and the work I do, I feel totally blessed. Like Karen, the Landscapers of Potomac Society has given you the special award for helping them take down trees in the area. Congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you for honoring what I actually do. People have seen who you truly are. It was caught on a police cam. Come on now. So then people start arrive with Vivian arrives at Giselle's. It was nice. And I was like, is Vivian is like the wedding dress designer isn't she like she's yeah. Well, Vivian is like, yeah, Vivian is like her wedding dress. Yeah, she was like she has the boutique. But Vivian's like, I was invited here first.

So I came here first. Like, that's the classy and proper thing to do. Yeah, I'm telling you, Ronnie, I got really into this. I was like, that's a good friend. I was watching the TV and I literally was like, that's a good friend right there. That's a good friend. So then Giselle was like, that's a good friend right there. That's a good friend. Bzz. So then Giselle's like, well, she, you know,

Giselle agrees, that is a good friend. That's who did it right over there. It's a class. So then back in the Sprinter van, Stacey is talking about the text message, the group text message. And Stacey's like, I mean, I'm just in all transparency, I just don't understand how we receive an invitation

at Karen's birthday. And then I get another invitation the day before the event. I mean, guys, you're gonna find out my decision on this when we cut back from commercial. Okay, I think- I get the sense that Stacey does not like this at all. I think that Stacey would just want to go to Giselle's, but Stacey is too new and doesn't want to ruffle feathers. So she's like, I guess I just have to do this situation here. So Jacqueline comes also to Giselle's party. Of course, she's not invited to Karen's because you know, Jacqueline deigned to say a very simple thing. And then, um, then basically they FaceTime the women in the band, they FaceTime Ashley to let her know what the plan is at seven o'clock, by the

way. So Ashley, so so Mia basically tells everyone like, yeah, we're gonna or jassy says we're gonna be there. Um, eight ish, 830. And Ashley's like, well, the event ends at nine. So really, if you guys aren't here by eight, like don't even bother coming. Yeah. And so they're like, oh my God, surely we can do it. Dun, dun, dun.

It's like, this is such a disaster. Like you just see this is not gonna work out. Right. So then they're like, guys, we really, we can only stay at Karen's for a second. And Wendy's like, have you ever seen DC Twafik? This is not gonna work. So then it becomes this for a while, you know,

just who's where, who's doing what. Now, meanwhile, we go to Karen's event, we see nothing of this event, by the way. It's a pretty event, by the way. It is like held like in like a tiny little ballroom out of a hotel. I don't even know what it is. It's like a drop ceiling and everything. It's just like a stuffy, bland, forgettable event.

It's like the office room of the Marriott. Yeah, it's like a big nothing. Like Giselle's event is significantly nicer looking. So they're at this shitty event. Wait a minute, sir, sir, were you on the invite list? It's your dad. He's like, I'm just here to on the invite list? It's your dad. He's like, I'm just here to check the printer.

It's like taking stuff out of the printer, going back out to his room. My dad got an invite. So I'm staying at the Marriott. They're doing it in the office, the office center. Well, my parents actually are going to Baltimore for a wedding, I think. So it could happen. So, um, the, so anyway, um, Ashley, Ashley tells Giselle and Giselle's pissed. She's like, that is so rude, Ashley.

That's so fucking rude, Ashley. Not rude. It's fucking rude, Ashley. She's like, I know, I know. I'm, I'm your teammate. I don't want our cause to feel disrespected. We're in this together Giselle. Yeah.

So then after Karen does her thing, some of them are like, okay, well, I guess we, and Karen's like, well, obviously I'm more likeable than Giselle. So all the girls chose to support me and they left her ass high and dry. I mean, that was not my objective while the people spoken. So listen to the people. Not the ones saying, hear you, hear you, be seated and all that. Those people don't listen to you. But the other ones,

let's do this. My real bitch is my ride or dies. Each one of them would die for me in a fire. Puga soldiers. So then Karen, then at the event, she of course is doing this bullshit thing where she's like, Okay, now you are must make it to Giselle's event. You must because this is about empowering both hosts, even if one is less popular than the other, myself and them. So is there anything I need to know? Have you talked to Giselle? Please empower her and whatever silliness she's doing over there. Shad lonely people need your support. Get there. Get there.

Port yourself. She has nothing. Nothing. You'll be like a warm blanket to her. Please and do take a photo of her receiving her award. Oh, she's not getting an award. She's just throwing something for herself. Oh, well, that's so lovely of her.

Please empower her. So Kierna's like, well, I'm not going to that. So I'll stay here and Wendy is like, uh, she didn't even get her award yet. So I'm not leaving. I want to see her get the award. I mean, is it going to come out of a chafer dish? Is it going to be an actual pancake? What's it going to be like? Nobody knows. I have to see this award. It's inaugural one. So then the other women are back and there's some of those like Mia, Jassy and Stacey, they get in the Sprinter band, they go over to Giselle's and there's like traffic, there's rain and all this stuff. I'm like, I'm on

the edge of my seat during this. I can't lie. I was so invested in this. So Ashley is then thanking everyone for coming and they make a whole speech. So there is kind of like a presentational moment. They talk about Gisele. Gisele talks to the audience, talks about how her dad passed away from brain cancer and the partnership with the National Brain Tumor Society.

So this is like a significant moment for the event and the women are clearly missing it because they're in the Sprinter van. Yeah. Um, so then, um, Mia's like, ask the driver what's the ETA? And he says a, and States is like, oh my gosh. Okay. Now ask the driver who he thinks Jeremiah's father is. So then they get there and they roll in like three deep, they feel a little bad about it, but they get there at eight o'clock and they're actually pretty proud of themselves that they're

like, we, you know what, we only got here 30 minutes late, which honestly, if the events are at seven 30 coming at eight o'clock, not even I can see that it's not the worst. I think within 30 minutes for event, they did do it. Not ideal, but they did do it. Yeah, I'm actually told them, well, if it's gonna be past eight, I wouldn't do it. And they got there right at eight. So I feel like I went within the rules, you know, I agree. I think it was like, I think it was a little shitty that they just didn't go there in the first place. But we saw

them making a genuine effort to try to appease make both of their friends happy. And I think they were not egregiously late. So they so they get their eight and so Giselle's talking to someone taking a photo with like a fan. And then Giselle sees them walk in and she goes, Oh, no, why? No, why? Hold on one second. I'll be right back. Back. And that poor gay was like, but, but this was gonna go on my Instagram. So, Giselle.

She's always got security to call it's just so Giselle. Yeah. And that's how we, that's how we. He goes, well, she walks up to women and is like, no, get out, get out. Ladies, the event is almost over. Please leave, leave security. Yah, William Ma.

And the guard comes over and it's like, is he going to kick them out? Is it going to happen? Are they actually going to be ejected? There you go. I don't think they will be. It's very Real Housewives of Atlanta when NeNe wouldn't let anybody in that house because they were all late and they had to fight in the driveway. Oh yeah. But they were all late. And they had to fight in the driveway. Oh yeah. But they were hours later or whatever. They were three hours late when that happened. That's candy.

Everyone showed up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not saying this is the same. I'm just saying it called that memory for me. It's a fight. Okay.

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