Watch What Crappens - #2720 RHONY S15E017 Part Two: It Ain’t Ovah Til It’s Pavlova

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

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part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So now we continue on. Like do you take a breath? You're like, Oh God, well because I see what's happening next. I am like, honestly, I'm not going to lie to the people here. This is torture for me. Well, I think this is torture. But you know, let's, let's skip this. Pussy thing. I just don't care. I's skip this thing. Let's skip this thing. Let's skip this thing. Let's skip this thing. Let's skip this thing.

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What was that? And she's like, well, watching it over now, I know the room was not, you know, you never would have fit, but you didn't even attempt to find a room. And it was like, oh, as a host, you should not take the master bedroom for yourself. Yes, you should.

They all fucking do. And when you get to a vacation, you need to make an effort to get your own room. People aren't gonna just be like, oh, give Uba the hot, the best room. Cause she's hot. Sorry. I'm sorry if your regular life works like that, but that is not how housewives works, ma'am. If you're going to be on this show, you need to learn how to do it. But I get everything. Cause I'm hot. Of course that's how I do. So yeah, we talked about

the room stuff here and assigning the rooms and all that fun stuff I do. So yeah, we're talking about the room stuff here and assigning the rooms and all that fun stuff. And Andy was like, Ooba, you had a lot to say about on the beach after Raquel took you to a visit. She's like, yes, I want to clarify things. I wasn't talking about the ocean. I was talking about the sewage that goes into the ocean

that is also in the ocean and the fact that the ocean is sewage. But you also said the water is disgusting. She goes, no, no, that's the thing. No, no, no. And he's like, but you said don't go swimming. The water is disgusting. And she's like, no, this one, this one. I was talking about your cat.

What? All I'm saying is if you are a hot person, don't go swimming. If you're not hot, go swimming. But hot people don't touch the sewage. So Si tries to stick up for her and she's like, well, she saw a dead bird and there was a little inlay and she said, don't go put your feet in there. And Raquel's like, but everybody walks through that one inch of water, including Sai and

you decided to jump. I don't know why you couldn't just walk through the water. She's like, well, actually, I thought I was long enough, but I wasn't. And she's like, okay, but then you told people not to go swimming in the ocean. She goes, no, yeah, but no, not people. I was talking about, she goes, you told Brin, and she goes, did I tell you not to go swim? Did I tell you?

Like, I love Uwe just flying off the handle over nothing. And Brin's like, I don't remember. I'm in enough trouble. I'm not gonna get in trouble for this too. You're on your own. She's like, I'm not gonna get dragged into Puerto Rico, into Puerto Rico drama. I'm not, I'm not gonna get an island mad at me.

Uva's just inability to take any responsibility or just fucking apologize. It's like, it's both frustrating, but it's also hilarious because she's getting herself so worked up. And she's like, you tell him, Braden. She's like, no. And she was, did I tell you to not swim?

No, production, it's not true. It's not true. Production, production, tell them it's not true. And then production rolls a clip of her literally going, don't swim. The water is disgusting. Can I tell you? Please. She was trying, she was saying that to lay an egg on you. She was saying that to the egg on you and Brinko's, I wasn't trying to egg you on. I said I was gonna, I had to pee and she was, ah, bleh, I'm gonna go fucking die in the Hudson River, like I care. I'm only apologize for ruining your childhood memory

about the beach. Everyone thought it, but they were not gonna tell you. And so I was like, well, okay, look, here's the thing, Puerto Rico's been through a lot and we don't want people to see like Puerto Rico in a bad light. She goes, I didn't think of that. I love Puerto Rico.

I go there all the time. So I was like, yeah, but it's a Puerto Rican. That's what we thought about. Like, I don't want to discourage people from going there just because they think we have dirty beaches and things. And she's like, oh, well, they're going to miss out if they don't go to Puerto Rico. The best time there, the best time.

But don't go into the ocean. Do not go into the ocean. Also had the worst time. So Andy't go into the ocean, do not go into the ocean. Also had the worst time. So Andy is like, all right, okay, so Jenna. The shock on everybody's, cause they're just shell shocked, you know, cause Uber is just a whirlwind. And so they're like, okay, she's just, submit.

Jenna, let's talk about your vagina hair, vagina hair. We're just going to scroll through all the commentary there, straight and long, and then it's going through it in this situation. When did you realize your hair was, it looks like, oh, it looks like Jessel's hair. All right, well, Uber the woman on the trip, in their interviews, expressed worry and anxiety

about Jenna's hair, just kidding, we're talking about Jenna's hair still. No, they don't like the way you handle conflict. How does it feel knowing your friends avoid bringing certain topics up around you because they're worried about your reaction? I apologize if my authenticity makes you so uncomfortable. See, this is why Uba,

okay, this is why I say Uba can continue on. Cause like answers like that are hilarious to me. Again, Uba andba and just at the very least uba and jessel if you don't want to take sigh fine but uba and jessel they can go forward in my book so he's like but your reaction to the room for example the room situation she goes you know what continue being afraid of uba great they're afraid of me good for me. Naomi wish, Giselle wish. I'm not afraid, but sometimes I don't want to deal with it. And when it's long winded, it's really just long, just, you know, just be angry in the shortest,

in the shortest span of time. Yeah, they say it takes a long time to have an argument with Uber, you know? She's like, oh, well, and Erin goes, and this is my issue that I have. Oh, well you have an issue with everybody, except for Naomi and Giselle. And Aaron's like, do you even know what I'm going to say?

Because the issue did you have with everybody? She goes, well, cause those are relationships. That's not nice to say. Oh no, I don't like your tone. Is it her tone, Aaron, that you have a problem with me? No, go ahead, tell the truth. We don't have an issue. And she's like, well, it wouldn't be like negative

if you just listen. I was just gonna say like you assume things and then you get triggered, you know, but like you don't give me the benefit of the doubt. And that frustrates me because you're a fucking liar. How many times does she have to tell you right to your face? You're a fucking liar and a shit starter, Aaron. That's why she doesn't trust you.

She'd be a fucking moron to trust you. You do nothing but lie and try to stir and twist everything for no good reason. Brin number two, Brin number two. So Raquel, what is your reaction to being new to the group about people feeling like they don't want to make Uba upset because they're worried about her reaction. She's like, well, I get it.

I mean, when I went to speak with you about the beach and she was, oh, I'm so happy everybody's afraid of me. Go ahead, go ahead, scaredy. And she's like, well, I mean, we came in to calm things down and then you say, are the two Puerto Rican girls coming here to attack me? And she's like, well, I felt that way. I spoke how I felt.

I told you when they come to play, you will see. There was a dead pigeon. The end, dead pigeon. And then Andy's like, well, that's not the point. We're talking about your friends censoring themselves because they are worried about your reaction. They should. They should, but that's not a healthy relationship.

That's not true friendship. But that's not true though. And he's like, but they've all expressed it. And she's like, okay, fine.'s not a healthy relationship. That's not true friendship. But that's not true though. And he's like, but they've all expressed it. And she's like, okay, fine. I don't believe it, but go ahead. And Jus is like, well, I think it's how we communicate with Uber. You know, if we have an issue,

I don't deal with it in a group setting. I call Uber and we talk it out. And Raquel's like, but I mean, if something happens in the moment, you have to have the conversation, right? And she goes, you know what, Raquel, I wish I tell you I care. I don't care. I really don't. All right. I want to go back to the conversation by the pool.

Aaron, you told Jessel you're not part of the shit. So, okay, now that you've seen it, do you want to talk back that lie? And she's like, I mean, yeah, I was sitting there. I mean, I wasn't saying much. I was chiming in, but I wasn't offering information. You were a hundred percent shit talking that lady behind her back. And you've been mean to her all fucking seasons. So cut the crap. He's like, two seasons really. Yeah.

It looked like you were a member of the conversation and she's like, well, I was a member of the conversation, I guess. So I'm sorry. I mean, I felt like it was getting too much. So I said so. And so I was like, well, I was a member of the conversation, I guess. So I'm sorry. I mean, I felt like it was getting too much. So I said so. And so I was like, yeah, she did say, come on guys, I feel bad. Yeah, that's what she says after she shit talks somebody for an entire season.

She just did it with Brynn. Oh my God, you guys, like no one is even talking to Brynn. I feel bad. Yeah, and it was like, well, you don't get a sticker for that and everyone's like, Ubo, you won't give me a sticker for anything. She literally won't give me a sticker. So it was like, and you know what, even make me more mad while I was watching, you actually switched the entire conversation by saying her husband called you and she goes, did you

see it? Oh, I thought I saw it. Aaron's like, but do you have a problem? Because I have a lot of things that I'm not saying. Oh God, that whole thing again. Oh my goodness. We're so scared. So, Uba's like, ooh, yeah, well it's really fucking rude. Uh-oh, there's that tone again. Don't like it.

So Aaron's like, yeah, so you wanna assume and you wanna find the worst in me and I don't understand. I've been nothing but a good friend to you. You, oh my God, you serve up the worst to me and I don't understand. I've been nothing but a good friend to you." You, by God, you serve up the worst. You're like a traving past of the worst. And she's like, well, I've been a good friend to you. And she goes, nah, because like, you know, if, whatever, I'm not even gonna go.

So Andy's like, Uma, you left the dinner on night two and you said, I don't know if Bryn slept with someone to get this job. So I guess the question is why go there? She's like, cause I was mad. And he's like, but why go there knowing about the comment that was made on Jeff Lewis's show? She's like, well, I wasn't thinking of Jeff Lewis.

I was mad. And it's a stupid thing to say, you know, remember last time, last year I said, maybe you don't know how to be loved or stand up for yourself. It was like that. She's just bringing up the worst evidence against herself from years past. Yeah. All right. Well, you said there was a big difference between saying you sucked a dick for a job and saying someone slept with someone for a job. What's the difference? And she's like, oh, well, you know, well, they're both really mad. Like, but to me, like, you know, you suck a dick to get the job. But like, maybe I have a dick and maybe you have a dick and maybe we have a dick.

And like, you know, you suck dick to get a job, you know, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick dick, you know nothing like that. I mean, I'm hot. I'm like I just say and in conclusion I'm hot and he's like You can look at me you don't have to look confused look at me and I can tell you I was like Oh, and he does the thing where he cocks his head he goes Like swivels his head to the side really aggressively and she goes. okay, don't look confused. Okay, I'm a hot person talking to you. So she's like, was it the right thing to say? No. Do I regret it?

Sure. I'm sorry. Here, forever, afterlife, I'm very sorry. And never tell me who this person is because I might go to jail. And he goes, so do you accept her apology? And Brynn says, yeah. So he's like, okay, now about, now about this accusation against Uba.

Okay. Now Brynn, before we get into this, we all believe your assault. So let's talk about this other lie. And she's like, well, I did tell her and it was the week before BravoCon. She's still sticking to this that she told her. Now, the problem I have with this is we see a flashback

to where Brynn is crying to the other ladies and she's saying, and the thing is, Uba's saying this stuff to me when she knows that this is something I'm dealing with. She knows that I've been raped and she knows that I'm going to group. She said something like, I'm going to group meetings and I'm doing all of this stuff trying to deal with it.

But that's not what you said. You said that you mentioned it very quickly in a sobbing fit on the phone and that maybe she missed it when what you really said to the girls was, she knows that I'm going to therapy. She knows that I'm going to these group things. She fucking knows. So you're still fucking lying.

You're coming on here and you're just lying again. And now you're sobbing. And now you're telling the same story you've been telling and you're giving the woe is me thing for the whole thing. You lied. You lied to a point where you could have ruined someone's fucking life and you're just going to sit there and continue to lie and cry and make yourself the victim. That's why I cannot with this woman. I can't. Here, I mean, here's the thing with Brynn is that like, whether she told Uba or not is almost immaterial because she believes she did. And I don't even know if I questioned if she believes,

like I, I, like this whole story could, could actually be true. It was like a word vomit. It went by quickly. Uba, like it just, somehow Uba missed it. Like that could be true. I think where the issue is, and this is what Jenna says, is that, is that Brynn hinges an entire thing. Like she makes it the crux of her argument. Like, why is it that what, what Uba said in the car was above and beyond bad is because she knew this about me and she's using it against me.

Like she pretty much outright says that. And it's such a horrifying thing that like Uba would use it against her that like everyone is massively use it against her that like everyone is massively upset and where Brynn is, it's like whether Brynn is lying about whether she told her is almost doesn't matter because all we do know what it does come out is that Brynn isn't totally sure that Uba knows. And therefore it's really shitty that Brynn would say it with authority on camera for America to see, but then off camera be like,

well, actually maybe she didn't know that. So that's what's so terrible about it. And still unable to take any fucking responsibility. So she's going on and on and crying her tears and this and that. And she's like, but maybe she didn't hear me because I was rambling like a lunatic, you know? But I know I said it. And I literally said like, but maybe she didn't hear me because I was rambling like a lunatic, you know? But I know I said it.

And I literally said like, after that, I was like, in her defense, you guys, because despite what you think I am, I'm always defending you, Uba. Bullshit, bullshit. You just tried to fucking ruin her on TV. And Erin goes, you didn't say that. And she goes, yeah, I said in her defense,

maybe she didn't hear that because I was fucking incoherent. And Erin goes, no, I was there and you didn't say that. And Sy goes, I was there and you didn't say that and so I goes I was there you didn't say it she goes you guys don't I like don't you know what we're talking about right now be careful be careful you be careful you fucking compulsive liar yeah like everyone there is like we all heard like you never said that like and I don't think anyone here is motivated to lie right now. And Brianna just keeps on digging in and she's like, actually,

I was saying like in her defense, in her defense, you know, whatever, and I was rambling and that, and they're like, and then she said that like, she says that everyone in the group was asking questions like how rich was he? Who is this guy? And they're like, we never asked any of those questions. We never asked that. You're making stuff up again. Yeah, she's doing the same thing to them

that she was doing to Uba, where she's making it like, yeah, I just told these women I was assaulted and all they care about is how much money this guy had and was he hot. Well, I mean, the fuck is your problem, man? And they're like, no, none of that happened. And she goes, nobody came and hugged me. Because Brynn, you just did what you did

on national fucking TV. And then of course you waited for the cameras not to be there when you corrected the record and said maybe she didn't hear it, of course. So they're like, no, none of this happened. So Jenna's like, I mean, you told us that she might not have clocked it and that felt careless

because we had just realized at that moment. She goes, yeah, she starts that moment. She goes, yeah. She starts fake crying. She goes, what state I was in because I don't fucking fall on the ground and scream or run to bathrooms and throw up and cause a scene and say, fuck you bitches. Just because I keep my shit together.

How are you keeping your shit together? You weren't keeping your shit together. She's like, oh my God, you're all holding me to this fucking little accountable for every, you're holding me accountable for every single word. Because they're disruptive words. You should be, you should. Well, well, especially because on this reunion, when you have Aaron saying like, oh really,

now we're going to talk about tone implying that we should be talking about like words instead of tone or actions. And now it's like, wait, you're going to like, talk, you're going to break down every single word. But yeah, these are, like you said, these are dangerous words and everything. And Brin's like, maybe I wasn't angry. I was hurt. I didn't understand why, why, when, you know, she had, when she had clocked, when she had like made the cancer thing, she was saying, like, you know, she didn't realize, you know, when she said the thing about the cancer, you know, mom's die of cancer. She didn't like realize Erin was right there.

So maybe she was doing the same thing with me. She didn't put two and two together. So that's why I went and told you guys. This is also extremely unfair because when Uba said, you guys, you can't choose when you're, you don't get to choose if your mom gets cancer and dies. And Erin made it about her because her mom is going through that.

And I can see how she would be sensitive But it was mom died from cancer Uber was talking about herself and the fact that Brynn knows that now and she's still coming on to the reunion being like remember When Uber was so fucking insensitive and said mom with cancer. She had it going on in her own life She's completely within her rights to say that and you know that so you're still coming on the camera and trying to make it sound Like she was being a complete asshole Mm-hmm And you know that so you're still coming on the camera and trying to make it sound like she was being a complete asshole. So Rick, I was like, we were so angry at Uber and it was the three of us in room because Brynn you said, I can't believe she's saying these things to me. She knows I was raped.

I'll told her I was raped. And just was like, yeah, the context of the conversation was I cannot believe this. And so Andy is like saying, yes, the context is hinging on the fact that she knew that and that like then they were very upset with her on your behalf because she knew that information and she was being reckless with it. And so that's why they're mad at you because now they find out that

she might not have known that information after all. It's so crazy how they have to explain to Brynn exactly what happened because she's completely deluded herself and is telling herself some different story and keeps trying to lie and they have to explain to her like a baby what she did, what she said, why it was hurtful and she still just sits there crying like it's everyone's being mean to her. It's time for a commercial.

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And Brynn's like, well, I'm sorry, but if I say something to somebody, I assume that they know it. And Andy's like, what's going on with your mind, Uba? I'm hot. Okay, what else? Do you remember the phone call before BravoCon? So she remembers it very clearly and Uba starts to cry

and she's like, she never said it. Like that's why when she told me, that's when I ran to you, I asked her, I said, I'm a human being. Maybe you told me, maybe I don't know. I don't remember. Tell me what, when did you tell me that? Like remind me. And you didn't, you looked at me and you didn't tell me. And that's when I realized it's not true. And you never told me. And Brynn's like, why did you say remind me though? You never said that. And she goes, in the corridor when I came to ask you.

And she's like, Uba, you chased me down the hallway and you grabbed at me. She did not chase you down the hallway. You were already in a room, but the door closed. So stop this shit. Like Uba's chasing you down. So she's like, I did not. And she goes, yes.

And so I was like, it's on camera. I mean, can they bring that back? And she's like, I walked towards you and I heard what, I heard what you text her. And then we get a commercial break. And so we come back and she's like, you know, you said that you're worried about Uba.

Do you remember when you said Uba is not okay? What did you text her? You said I was violent. And Erin's like, lock the door. You said lock the door. I was just, I was fucking violent towards you. And then we see the clip of that, of Uba losing her shit and coming to the door, you said lock the door. It's just, I was fucking violent towards you. And then we see the clip of that, of Uba losing her shit and coming to the door and saying,

you're saying that I knew that you were raped, you fucking liar. I knew I knew you were raped, you fucking psycho bitch. Just slamming on the door. And so Brynn's like, they had to push me and put me in the room. And she's like, I was violent. And so Erin's like, okay, sit back, sit back.

And she goes, since the day you met me, you want to discredit me, you was violent. Hmm. And so Erin's like, okay, sit back, sit back. And she goes, since the day you met me, you want to discredit me, you want to hurt me. And Brynn's like, no, I don't. And she goes, let me tell you something I always feel for you, always. Like ask everyone, how many times do I stand up for you? And then everyone's like, yeah,

Uba stands up for you all the time. And Brynn's like, but that's why you were my first call. And Uba's just saying it. Wow, she should be so grateful. So she was your first call when you were going through complete trauma and you turned it around and tried to ruin her ass over literally for no reason. Sia is pretty direct here. She's like,

Brynn you weaponized your experience for the downfall of a friend. It is awful. You know, Watch your language. Watch your language. Shut up. Just shut up. She's like, do not see the implications of these allegations. And Brynnins like, it would be an allegation if I'm still sitting here like, well, she knew and she did this on purpose. But then like three minutes later, after saying it, I was like in her defense, maybe she didn't clock it, but not on like, yeah, I don't. Yeah.

You did the damage and then you tried to fix it off camera when it didn't count. So that didn't count. Yeah. And, and, and there, you know, Jessel's like, you know, something is not like, you're making this sound so trivial. And Brynn's like, you don't have to tell me about the situation. It's a fucking joke. And Jessel's like, no, but you're making it seem like that. And then Brynn's like, guys, this is gonna be too much. So then they're all like, okay, all right, Brynn. All right. So Uba does this thing where she's like, listen, it was very wrong what you did,

but the good thing is I forgive you. I'm not mad at you because I'm hot, but we will never go back to what we were. I want to go back to a time when I didn't fucking know who you were. Like she rips into her in this moment and it's just so clean and so perfect and I loved it. And she goes, we're not going back.

So then Andy's like, okay, well, what did you say to the other women Brynn? You and Uba, I feel like are not going to get anywhere. And she's like, well, after all of it, no one called me. Like literally no one comforted. Did you listen to what everybody just said? Even if you had to have, you had to have it explained to you like a fucking two year

old and you still don't get it. So Aaron's like, um, cause Andy's like, what do you want to say to the other women? And when she says that, like that was what she wanted to say. And Aaron is like, I reached out to you daily and then you blocked me. And Jenna's like, I reached out to you and you just didn't want to talk about it. You completely shut down. And then Brynn's like, yeah, well sometimes people just like shut down. Which was funny because she was just holding Rebecca to task about like not like Rebecca

does not want to talk about her religion. And maybe she just, I'm not, this is totally, totally different things. I'm not trying to say they're at the same level of what is going on here. But the point is that like Brynn, it's just funny what Brynn expects others to understand and to hold space for with her that she doesn't with other people. Well, it's also not even about that because I'm not what you're saying. I'm just saying as far as Brynn saying, she's like, no one comforted me and she's crying.

You just said nobody comforted you. But then we find out that you blocked Aaron and you wouldn't speak with Jenna. And she's like, yeah, Jenna, sometimes people shut down. Okay, yeah, but you're the, sometimes people shut down. Drama. Okay, yeah, but you're the one accusing people of not reaching out and they clearly did. Lying again, there you fucking go again. And she's like, yeah, I mean, I'm just saying,

we reached out and Aaron's like, yeah, I wanted to talk to you. I kept saying, are you good? Are you good? Do you know the price of Bitcoin today? And Jenna's like, we were concerned. Yeah, we've just talked about you. They're all just so concerned, you know the price of Bitcoin today? And Jenna's like, we were concerned. Yeah. We've, we've just talked about you. They're all just so concerned, you know, and Bryn's like, I'm dealing with two things that no woman should have to deal with in life,

which no one is arguing that she's a hundred percent correct. She goes, and you guys are like, well, you said one thing was different and then you admitted that maybe you were confused the moment and you had a f*****g horrible person and you're the worst person ever was. And it was all this master plan to ruin people's lives. It's like, but no one's saying like you're a terrible person because this happened to you and that you have trauma as a result of it. It's that like, in that moment, you went there, you, the reason when it was a petty fight with UBA, UBA was, UBA was hitting below the belt saying like, Oh, you slept with someone to get here. And your defense of that was how could you,

yes, but your defense, yes. And your defense was how could she say that about me when she knows this was my life experience? You went there with it. And then it turns out that actually she didn't know that. So it's like, that's what people are holding her to task. The audience knows this. I don't, we don't have to preach the audience about this. It's just very frustrating the way that Brynn is interpreting it. Brynn pokes and she pokes and she pokes and she pokes and she pokes and she pokes and she finally gets a reaction and goes, but I've had trauma and you're being mean to me when I'm not trauma. You did this on purpose. You don't get to like sit here and cry trauma after you purposely got

this person pissed off at you. She was one of the most frustrating people. And this is the segment where everyone's like, no, we're standing strong against Brynn. And I was actually proud of the cast. I was like, wow, they're really standing strong. Now let's watch them all fucking folds. Boo. Boo. So, everyone's like, everyone just up like, drink me.

Andy says, he's like, okay, well at the end of the season, you said there were some ownership that you were looking for Brynn to take over the situation. Aaron, what is that? And Aaron's like, I just think that Uber didn't know. And I think that an apology, she should have an apology so we can just move forward. So Brynn is like, I did say it.

Like did she know? Of course not. Of course not. I love Uber more than probably most anyone here. So I think that's why it hurts the most. And it just like fucking hurt to hear that. By the way, if you love Uba the most out of everyone, why were you on her ass the entire trip until Uba snapped? Why is that?

Like, let's not forget, you just said, Ronnie, that Brynn started this whole thing, which is true. That's not what you do to someone that you love, Brynn. Yeah, just to try and make them lose their temper on TV so you can call them an angry black woman, which we've seen you do multiple times now. So don't say how much you love this person. Fucking obnoxious. And she's like, I love her, we love each other, and like I know she didn't mean it,

but Uba loves me and Uba would murder a person for me, like I would never hurt Uba on purpose. So then Uba gets up after just telling Brynn, the only time we're going back to is the time before I knew your stupid ass. Now she gets up and she's hugging Brynn and saying, I'm sorry, I can't with this. Uba, listen, I'm on your side, but this is ridiculous. This goes beyond, because this is going beyond like, I forgive you as like a good, you know, Christian

or whatever, or Muslim or whatever. Like we're supposed to forgive. So I'm gonna forgive and move on with my life, because it's better for me. This is a full on, I love you Brynn, I love you, and I just don't I can't I can't be yes Team either after this so they hug and it goes back to recede and then okay. We'll leave it right there All right, let's take a break and then brain is like, you know She's just saying the brain and uber have this like mumble everyone's offset and you know Brynn is like, it's just like,

it's like, I'm, I felt that way and I'm sorry, but you know me, you know, I love you and you protect me with everything and everyone. And they're just like bonding and everyone else is in the, they're having this whole private moment and then Andy comes over and he's like, Hey, sorry, I left my phone here. Okay. Get back to it. Sorry.

So funny. He can't go to it. Sorry. So funny. He can't go to the toilet without that fucking phone. So this conversation just keeps going on and so I was like, what is she doing over there? I mean, that's crazy. I mean, this is very kind of uber considering those allegations would have ruined her. And then we go back to uber and rinsing how much they love each other. They're going to work on this.

And then we go to sign Jessel and they're gonna work on this. And then we go to Sy and Jessel, and they're just like giving Jenna credit for finally doing something on this show. And then back on the couch, Bren and Uva are still going on. I'm just skipping most of this Bren and Uva stuff, I can't. It's just repetitive. I love you, I love you, I forgive you, I forgive you,

but I love you, but I love you. And then the girls are just making small talk back in the dressing room. And then they start this, in Jenna's dressing room, they start this, I really feel bad for her. I really feel bad for Brynn. And so I was like, yeah, I'm starting to feel bad for her too. Well, she's just human guys.

She's just, yeah, she's broken. You guys, she needs love and attention and all she's getting is like hurt people, hurt people. And that's just how it works, guys. Yeah. And Uba's like, they really love you, Brynn. What you said is really hurting them. We'll get through this.

And she goes, I don't know this time. She's like, sad, baby. And Uba's like, but with this haircut, you could. You could get through them with this haircut. She's like, maybe. So then in Jenna's dressing room, the producer's trying to like take away Jenna's champagne. She's like, it's ginger ale, it's ginger ale.

And then Raquel- And the producer says, it's supposed to be a dry set. Go fuck yourself. Does anybody on this network know what show this is? This is The Real Housewives. What do you mean it's a dry set? No, boo. Boo to this whole show, cancel it.

You know what, if there was any doubt in my mind, it has been erased after that one fucking line from a producer. That was probably Eric Fuller. This is a dry set. Probably was. Get the fuck out of here. Do your job. Raquel actually has a nice moment. Like, I know we all are like, oh, don't cave in to Brynn,

but if you're going to cave in, like, you know, I thought this was a nice moment. She goes to Brynn's dressing room and she sort of grabs her by the shoulders and she's like, look, I know what I, and she said, Brynn, I know what I said on camera was really hurtful and my heart was broken for you and we all love you. And she's like crying and she's like, we just all want us back together. We all really, really love you. It was like a moment of, um, I thought it was like actually a very lovely moment of tenderness from Raquel to someone who was very broken.

I don't. I think that it was a moment of Raquel following the leader as she's done this whole time. It's like, if everybody's mad at Uba, she's mad at Uba. Then if everybody's mad at Brynn, she's mad at Brynn. Now everybody's gonna forgive Brynn, so she's gonna go in and apologize to Brynn and say like how sad she is.

And they're just all sisters. I think that she's kind of a follower at this point and I didn't buy one second in that. So then, you know, that's me. I mean, honestly, I don't care enough. I don't care enough. I thought it was a nice moment. I'm not going to die on a hill about it. It was like nice. Nothing to argue with you about it. I just, no, I know. I'm not taking it that way. I'm just saying like, I'm just saying like, this, this was so frustrating. This is a long episode.

It was really frustrating to be a hater. I hate being a hater on our show. Like I hate podcasting and not not being able to find like the funny not being able to find the joy. Like I feel like our job is to even in the shittiest or most depressing or saddest episodes, we find the humor, we find the jokes, like we, we make it funny and like we find the laughs. Honestly, I'm just like, you know, it is it's we're so close to the end of this wretched season that I've like, you know, you get, it's like, it's like when you get,

when you start to approach home and you kind of have to go to the bathroom and the closer you get to home, the more you have to go to the bathroom anymore. You're like, Oh my God, Oh my God. It's like, Oh my God, we're so close to the end of this season. I don't even want to find the funny. I just want to put a pin in it and just be like, and that was it for the season. I like bring out the Pavlova stick your fork in it. And that was it. Like that's kind of where I'm at. You know, there were some fun moments. There were some laughter,, there were some laughter,

but overall this was not a good season at all. No, this show sucked. And I'm really glad it's ending and over because it is definitely time. But yeah, I'm not buying any of this. I would have preferred them to just be like they were before when they were very firm, but still kind with Brynn. They weren't ripping her a new one or calling her a stupid slut or anything like that. And I mean when they were very firm, but still kind with Brynn. They weren't ripping her a new one

or calling her a stupid slut or anything like that. I mean, they were being like, listen, this is why what you said was hurtful. And they just stuck to their guns. But now this whole like, oh, we love you Brynn. I think it's coming from the whole like, this is Bravo. And you know, we've had some rough seasons. And so now we are gonna insist

on everybody making up at the end. Cause that's what they do now. You know, where it's like, we're here to make up with each other. And so I think that they're like, okay, let's just all go make up with each other. When, you know, that girl took no responsibility for shit. I just can't believe, if she had taken responsibility and said, yes, I was trying to hurt Uba

and that was uncool of me, then okay. But the fact that she's still sitting there acting like she's the ultimate victim and everybody else is the abuser because they're having the gall to call her out because after she's gone through trauma is ridiculous. And I can't believe that they're all doing it. It's just, I was booing in my house. I think what it is, like, it's easy for us to be like,

oh my God, I can't believe you caved in. I think when you're sitting there in front of someone who is like broken and someone that you know, and they're just like, you just see they're a broken person and, and they're like in tatters, like you can't help but feel like kind of bad for them. And like, that's just what happened. I think that's just what happened. I think we don't have any stakes in it. I think where I'm coming from is I don't see her as broken at all.

I see her as a compulsive lying, evil person. So I think that's her crying any real tears. I think she's going to finish this and just perk right back up and come right back to life and it's going to be like nothing ever happened. She will. She's going to go on, you know, but I think that's like what's, I think if you're a compulsive liar and you're manipulative, you are a broken person. And so they're seeing her not, they're seeing like, Oh, she does this because something is broken inside of her.

And they just, they go from being angry at it to just sort of compassionate like because they, I think they all know our lives will go on and we're going to thrive and we have a trajectory, but she's going to have to, until she gets, until she really deals with us. And like, it sounds like she's trying to deal with it, but they know it's like, Oh yeah, we could be mad at her, but we ultimately know like, like, like our lives will probably be okay going forward and hers is,

it's, it's, it's a tough path forward for her. So they just feel bad. And so like for us, it's easy to be like, fuck them for going back to her. But I can imagine being in that room and you know me, I'm a softy ultimately. I talk a lot of shit, but I'm a softy. And if I were in that room, I'd be like, oh my God, Brynn, I'm going to give you a hug.

Not me. I would have. I would have, cause that's just, I'm- I've hashed out with too many people like this in the past to where I just look At this is just I don't care. I don't see her as broke. I see her as a breaker not a broken, you know There comes a point but it's like you're just hurting everybody else and I don't fall for this hurt people hurt people Ronnie Broken people break people but how many people aren't hurt?

How many people haven't gone through drama how many people aren't broken in so many ways? Like, I don't like this, like, mentality of, oh, my brokenness is more important than everybody else here. I mean, she's sitting here talking to Uba. God knows from her stories what this woman has gone through. She's not using that against people. I just, there's not, there's not a free card to use it. And the more that people do shit like that, it just, it fills me with disgust. It really does. I hate it. So Andy's back with his final thoughts. Okay, Jenna, you were serving with glasses. Why'd you take them off?

She's like, to quote Erin, I feel bad. I feel bad. Yeah. So this continues for a very long, final thoughts. Yes, it's over. Pavlova, I mean, Pavlova people, goodness, bring in the Pavlova.

Okay, there's more talk, there's more monologues, there's more this, there's more that. I gotta improve myself. I wanna be there. I don't have a microphone. I feel bad for Jessel. I feel, it's happened. We've seen it a million times on this episode alone.

Pavlova, cue the Pavlova. It's not just any Pavlova. This is Naomi Watts' Pavlova. Yeah, see, finally. Why do we drop that in there? Wait, all this time, Jenna's Pavlova was Naomi Watts' Pavlova? Why do you wait till the end of the season to tell us?

We could have had a whole episode on that. Like, that's the fun stuff, Rony. What's going on with Naomi Watts? Is she just a Pavlova person now? Like, I don't know. I've got to look it up. Is it a business? Naomi Watts Pavlova. What, yeah, where did this come from?

Is it a famous, ooh, a vegan swan Pavlova, disgusting. I don't even see anything about it. It's not even a thing. Naomi Watts Pavlova. So, you know, now it ends with basically Brynn being a huge victim and everybody apologizing to Brynn somehow. And they eat a Pavlova and that's it.

And when this show ended, I literally screamed, fuck off and die, so go fuck yourself. And I don't take it back. But I will say, you know one of my hobbies is rage and I felt it coursing through me during this whole show and during this entire recap. So I get what you're saying, but I had fun. No, I did not have fun with this episode.

I didn't have fun watching it. And I always have fun talking to you, Ronnie, but this was a test. This was probably one of the hardest podcast episodes to do only because it was just, it was just, it just kept on going. It kept on going. And we've covered boring ass episodes before,

but this one really, this one I think broke me today. This one took the Pavlova. My meringue is cracked at the moment. You broke Ben, but you didn't break me. This episode broke me. Okay, just give me Jessel. Give me Jessel, Give me Jessel. Give me Uba.

Somehow became someone who's pro-Sci, ditched the rest. Yeah, well, we'll see. I have a feeling they're bringing back everybody. We heard that Rebecca's gone. But I'll bet you anything, this whole thing was to save Ren at the end, and I'll bet they bring them all back. I mean, it ended up getting record ratings for it for it.

I mean, it's still not great ratings, but really, we're all hate watching SLC, which is their best show of the year in our minds. So who knows? They follow the ratings. They follow the money. So they will probably bring it back. So Buckles, Buttercup. Look, Dubai, in my opinion, had a terrible first season and then they had a hilarious and excellent second season. Now, unfortunately no one watched it because it had a bad first season. So I do know that these shows can rebound.

So you know, I'm just saying this season I like, and we'll go forward. We'll see what happens next season. But let's see what happens. My Pavlova is correct. My pavlova is cracked. You're broken! I am done and I am over it. Okay, I am done. Well, I can't wait to come back and give you more shit for another entire year. Bring it on. Alright everybody, thanks so much for being with us. You can find videos of all our recaps over at Patreon,

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