Watch What Crappens - #2726 RHOBH S1411 Part Two: Reba McEnTerror

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

This is part two of a two-part recapGarcelle tries to sit down and have a talk with Sutton’s mama on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and it doesn’t go well. To watch this recap on video, listen to our Traitors bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Tickets for the Mounting Hysteria Tour are now on sale at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You just realized your business needed to hire someone like yesterday. With Indeed, there's no need to stress. You can find amazing candidates fast using sponsored jobs. With sponsored jobs, your post jumps to the top of the page for your relevant candidates, so you can reach the people you want faster. And just how fast is Indeed? In the minute I've been talking to you, 23 hires were made on Indeed, according to Indeed data worldwide.

There's no need to wait any longer. Speed up your hiring right now with Indeed. And listeners of this show will get a $100 sponsored job credit to get your job's more visibility at indeed.com slash wonder ECA. Just go to indeed.com slash wonder ECA right now and support our show by saying you heard about indeed on this podcast.

Indeed.com slash wonder ECA. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring indeed is all you need. Hey y'all, it's your girl Kiki Palmer. And let me tell you, we're kicking off this new year with a whole new mindset. If you're ready for that new year, new mindset energy, you've got to tune into, baby, this is Kiki Palmer.

If you're looking for more podcasts to help you tend to your wellbeing, check out New Year New Mindset on the Wondry app. Watch what happens, watch what crappens, watch what crappens, watch what crappens, who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Watch what crappens, watch what crappens, watch what crappens, who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Well hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens! This is part two of a two part recap.

If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye, enjoy the show. So Sutton's like, okay, all right. So they go in and they look around and it's like, this is very sad.

She's talking about how this is going to be a healing step for her. She also wants, Sudden wants to say goodbye to her father and she talks about how she misses him so much. She shows everyone her bedroom first. She goes, well, this is my bedroom. The bed used to be over here and I just move moved from here to there, from there to there, mainly because the noise of the bed moving on the floor drove my mother nuts. So just every day, just move that bed around.

Yeah. I was like, yeah, that's the only thing you can really do as a kid to have any power. Move the bed around. Unless of course you're on Little House on the Prairie. I guess when you're kind of like a child celebrity, you don't have to worry about moving beds around. But that was cute for you. I guess this is sort of like the Augusta way of being like a famous person, right? Moving your bed around. I don't know. I wouldn't know. So Sutton's talking about how she was daddy's girl and he didn't say a lot, but he liked being in the kitchen and they'd make chili and her mom was a terrible cook. She only

did frozen fish sticks. So it went from really great food to really terrible food. And then she talks about how she likes scrambled egg sandwiches with mayonnaise. People think they're disgusting, but they're not. I was like, wow, I love it. It's like an emotional tour de force over the egg sandwich. I'm like, well, you go for it. And then we, you know, it's just lots of dad memories and stuff. And then they go to this room, like this relaxing room, the den, or the dad den, and he designed it and built it.

And there was a wood-burning stove and he'd make pancakes on it. And then Kyle goes, what was your dad's name again? Kyle! Kyle, just be quiet. You know what I mean? Like, who says that?

You should know that. Just be quiet. You should know. And then something goes, John, John T, you know, kind of the most basic name you could get. Is it hard to remember, Kyle? John, you know, okay. Here's the way you can remember it. His name is the same name as the generic name you give someone when you don't want to name them in a court case. John. Okay. John Doe. Okay. So Stephen?

No, John. So Bob like pancakes? Oh, God, Kyle. Well, and since she sees a chair and she's like, this is the last place I ever saw my dad alive. And she talks about how she was leaving for one of her dance performances and she remembers saying goodbye to her dad and she kind of tugged on his toe, but he was really sick.

And she said he was really out of it and then the next day he died. And she still has guilt because whenever she would pass that sofa in high school or wherever, he would always hold out his hand and he would slap it. They would give a high fives or he would give her a thumbs up. And when he was on that sofa, he was so out of it and he didn't put his hand out that day. And she thought it was strange, but she grabbed his big toe and kind of pulled on it. And that's the last

time she saw him and she saw his guilt that she should have known or she should have sat with him for about at least five minutes to make sure he was okay. I mean, it's just, this story was so gutting. Like it was so gutting. I don't know. Cause I think it's something about the specificity of it. Like her describing walking by that sofa and the dad putting his hand out and she would just slap it. It's such a specific thing that also expresses like such a relationship. It's like a small gesture that expresses everything in their relationship. And like, it's like a moment of like tenderness and care and their bond. And it was it's like a moment of like tenderness and care and their bond.

And it was like, I was, I started to cry. Yeah, it was really, it's really so, that's a lot. So then- It was just, this was, I mean, it was, it really felt like truly, like, you know, when I, I'm saying that it sounds like American theater, like it sounds like a great American play. It's like, I'm not being facetious about it. Like this is, this is people, her

monologue here and her description of it is what I think actually playwrights would aspire to, just like this raw, this raw, this raw moment with these details that are so particular, but say, like volumes about, about like volumes about this relationship. So she's telling it and she feels guilty. Well, just the guilt that she's carrying around with it because, you know, maybe it would have been a different day, but you know, it's sad the things you think like that you could have done something with something that heavy and something that deep that goes so beyond her, you know? And it's so sad to see a kid carrying that around into adulthood. It's terrible.

So then she says, well, I can't believe my mom said, when I offered to give a full report, she said, I don't want it. And Garcelle's like, well, it's probably painful for her too, you know? And then we see some pictures of her and her mom. And she says that her mom has had a rough go since the dad's death and maybe even before. And she's like, but I want my next phase of my mother's life to be happy and peaceful and fun, not strained. I was like, okay, but part of your mom's fun is gonna be hating on your store.

So you're gonna have to give her that. Reba just calls up and said, if you want my next part of my life to be fun and peaceful and not strained, get someone else to make the grits next time. Reba's like, I said if you want my next part of my life to be fun and peaceful and not strain get someone Else to make the grits next time. Reba's like I'm having plenty of fun. Have you not read your Yelp reviews lately? So You know son tells us that like Reba means a lot to her In great sells a scarf from eBay. Congrats a fucking lations

They should rename the store from Sutton to Sut Off because that's what all the fashions are like. Sut done. So they leave and Kyle is like, that was like way more than I expected it to be. Yeah, it was considering you had no idea who her father was or what happened to him. So of course it was a lot like it was baseline going to be a lot more than you thought it would be I feel awful for Ted. Where we gonna have lunch Now, how do you know this guy again? So then we go to Hollywood and

we're at Grand Master Records, which is low-key a Popular destination for Bravo shows. It's kind of like the new mixology 101. So they are, we have Bose arriving with Erika and Dorit. And they all sit down and everything and Bose said, the girls need to get out and celebrate life. Also I brought over some leftover caramel and chocolate sauce that my daughter wouldn't even touch. So Erika's like, all right, well, guess what?

Okay, waitress, all right, this one over here, the one with the bug eyes and the crazy accents, she's gonna have the same old drink. Okay, a Belvedere soda with three lemons and no rind. See how you can just say no rind instead of carcass out? Come on, Dorit. No, I'm sorry, that's not the correct drink. Everything she says until the end,

and then it's carcass out! So have you guys seen each other since Kathie's? Which by the way, I had a nice time. I would never have thought that, but I had a great time with Kathie's. She's like, I had a great time. I was literally just like, wow, this table setting right here,

I don't even know where to begin. And I gotta change my place settings. So they order some pizza and stuff. And then Bozo's like, I have to update you on so many things. And Erica and Dorita like, who do it? And they do this like leaning on each other like they're so excited to hear. And it's like, oh, you are ridiculous people. Well, here we go. Keely and I have talked about having a baby, but we've actually never said the words, I love you. Girls, go ahead. Give me your reactions. I can take it

Look at both of you. All right And they're gonna go hold up hold up. I need a moment back up back up boop boop No, not that fine. Tom you're gonna fall down the hill up Tom just rolled down the hill rolled ten times slipped over. Oh god a snow in a Pasadena Jesus don't stop me on this monologue. Well, I want him to say it first. I want to know what he's feeling. Well, I can hear that. I can feel that. Um, I do hear that there's some sort of concept called empathy that I think I'm gonna try to access right now for you. No, don't have it. I'll just have to trust what you're saying.

Well, I do love him in those moments I want to say it and then I say don't do it, don't do it, Rose. And she to trust what you're saying. Well, I do love him in those moments. I want to say it. And then I say, don't do it. Don't do it. And she's like, he has to see it. No disrespect, but having a baby, but not telling the man I love you. I mean, what are we doing here? Well, not patting the pulse. No disrespect, but having the baby, not telling the man I love you. Okay. All right. Where are we going here? Where are we going here? So Erica is like, so what do you think is going on? She goes, but I think it's as simple

as saying, Keely, do you think it's weird that we haven't said, gee, I love you to one another? Do you think it's weird that you haven't offered to share some Pringles with me and all of our time together, Keely. Keely, isn't it weird that every time I go to the store and say, could you please bring me back some green juice? You come back with bags of marshmallows. All right, Dorita, I think you sort of lost the course there. Bose, how about you say, Keely,

I've been waiting for you to say I love you, but you haven't said it and it feels a little bit bully. Bully. Little jabs, little jabs a little bit bully. Little jobs, little jobs, little jobs, little jobs bully. And she's like, I'm not saying any of this. Okay. She goes, no, well, I don't want him to be like, oh, but I love you too. And then I feel like I made him say it. And Erica's like, okay, don't do what she said. All right. That's not a good idea. Don't force the situation. idea, don't force the situation. I'm like, who is, I mean, Erica's advice isn't terrible, but I can't imagine this with, I can't imagine this working out with anybody that Erica has been with either.

You know? So, but I was like, well, I'm acting on the belief that he loves me. I know he's going to say the words one day, we love each other. I know that. He showed up to Ghana. I don't know. I think it's fishy that he showed up to Ghana. I don't like, I don't find that romantic.

If you're like, I'm going on a trip with my daughter and then he just shows up to Ghana, I don't know. I think it's fishy that he showed up to Ghana. I don't like, I don't find that romantic. If you're like, I'm going on a trip with my daughter and then he just shows up to Ghana. That's weird. And you haven't even told her I love you or you haven't yet. The guy to the kids yet. I don't know. It feels weird. Yeah, that is a little weird. On the one hand, I think it's like, oh my God, like how fun. Like I would love it if I went to Ghana and then Dom showed up. I'm like, oh my God, Dom came. But the thing is, we say, we also say like, I love you to each other. So it is, and also like, again, he hadn't met the kid. It is a little, that's a little bit of a strange move because it also forces, it forces her hand to have to like have a

conversation with her daughter. And that's kind of not cool to do if you ask me. So I decided, boo. Daria's like, here's what you do. Hold a can of Pringles up to your face. He'll say it immediately. That's how I got my ring. You know, my original ring was actually an aluminum cardboard can. It was very large, very, very large. Eventually we had to cut down and had a couple of zirconiums sucked in there and it's worked out for almost a decade, just short of a decade. Oh my God, it's almost been a decade.

Peaky! Actually, our first, my first engagement ring was actually merely just a Funyun. But since then we've really moved on to Pringle's Box. And then finally, Eminem's rapper. So, Boz is like, all had diamonds, all had diamonds. Well, do you consider that you are dating for marriage? Oh, we see that we see their beach picnic. It doesn't matter. So Boz is like, why not continue the conversation about the baby and the marriage and our future while we build the words together. I don't see anything wrong with that really. I'm like, yes, but you yourself say that you

love being in love and the last person that you fell in love with actually was leading a double life. So maybe put some, you know, let's put some regulations on this a little bit. Pete I think from what she said, you know, being a certain age and trying to find a single man without a ton of baggage and stuff at that age who also wants kids. It's just, he's all of the right things on paper. So you're just going to try and make it work. And I don't know. I don't know. I just, I don't know. I'm not feeling it. So then of course, Dorit jumps in. She's like, you guys, I spoke with Peket. Can someone else have a scene? For Christ's sake, just let the woman have a scene, Dorit. For Christ's sake, just let the woman have a thing to eat.

Okay, drop it on us. No, it could hurt you. Well, what, what? Come on, you had a conversation with what, who, huh, huh, what, what, huh, I mean, PK, huh. He was, oh God, you motherfucker. How are we even in this conversation? What did he even say? Guys, I picked up the phone and we just started talking. I mean, first I realized it was a banana, so that was awkward. But then when I actually picked up the real phone, the conversation was much better.

First of all, he called me, but he couldn't really speak. You know what I mean? So I said, PK, pretend I'm a bagel. And he said, I'd like nothing more than to toast you, butter you up and swallow you all. I said, we're back in business, baby. It was like we were friends. It was just like the old days of me, PK, boy, George, hidden in a room that we said had black mold. It was just the old days. And Bose was like, that's a lie. It's a lie.

I mean, where is my lipstick? Now, it's funny because Bose recognizes the bullshit with PK, but can't see that there may be some bullshit happening with Keely and vice versa. I mean, that's so normal though too, right? You can't see it when it's your own life. I mean, I can call out everybody on Bravo, but then I date the worst every single time I'd like be worst at it. So, you know, I think it's easier to see when you're not in it.

Unfortunately, but yeah, do a stupid yeah, Dodo Dorit is like, Oh, when I was talking to him, and there, there it was, the father of my children, the man I believed no longer existed, on the phone with me. Oh, yeah, because he knows you're, because Kyle went back and told him that your ass is going to get serious and everybody told you to go after his ass because they know that that 10 years is coming up. And so now he's going to call you and try and sweet talk your ass so he can screw you over before the time limit. Come on. Exactly. Yeah. So, you know, I don't want, I don't want you to get confused, Erika. I mean, this was not a reconciliation. This was me saying, there he is, the man that

I used to love, who I still love and I want to get back together with him. But it's not a reconciliation. This was just very much, I asked him, I said, I need you to just slow down a little bit and let's just communicate. We can't be at war and the kids be okay, PK. And Buzz is like, this is about you, not about the kids. You're asking him to slow down because you want to catch your breath. It's not about the kids. So, well, you're absolutely right, but you need to understand,

catching my breath is about the kids, guys. I want to explain it so it's not confusing. Can you keep up? Baby boy, let me catch my breath. Make some noise. Let me catch my breath. Make some noise. Let me, let me. Hoey hey, oh, hey, boy.

All right, stop, please. Don't bring Beyonce into this. I'm trying to ask where you ended up. Not asking what your favorite Beyonce song is. So the conversation was a hell of a lot better and different than I thought it would be. I was like, gee. And Bose goes, well, it feels like a trick.

A trick? No, no, that I can guarantee because he's not that person. He's not a tricky person. It's not like he has debts from casinos or pantones he hasn't paid for. It was amazing. He's just not a tricky person at all. I said, PK, let's FaceTime, and I looked him straight in the eye and he said, Oh, I'm getting something from your ear. And it was a quarter. I mean, who uses quarters anymore? That's a man to be in love with. Oh, geez, Doreen. He's a very honest person. For instance, he threw me a pretty woman anniversary party and then tried to convince me that the song from Top Gun was part of that movie. So, she's like, well, you know, the good person is the Pringles, PK. The bad person is when

he's raging. Now stop giving me city! What? Stop giving me saddui! What? Stop giving... She's saying side eyes. Stop giving a fucking side eye. Thank you, Yenica. I'm sorry, I'm very, very frustrated. PK is ruthless, especially if he's walking down aisle seven of pavilions and going after some pickle chips.

He is ruthless in business, which means he will be ruthless in the business of the divorce. I keep yelling from the mountaintops, hey, you need to take shelter. No one's listening to me. Hey, I'm on top of a mountain in snow and a Pasadena. Get off the road, everyone, before you crash off the side of a cliff.

But no one's listening. No one hears me. Someone online made a good point and a comment to us that said something like, because I was saying last week, how could PK even have any money? I don't believe that he has any. So this is all really weird to me.

But someone said when he went through all of his lawsuits in London, that he probably hit a bunch away, which is true. But how can she legally get access to money that he's hidden away? So I don't really understand where this is, or where they're going with this. But I just feel like at this point, she's making more money than PK because of the TV show.

So I would think that he's gonna come after her for money. I don't think that he's got much after her for money. I don't think that he's got much to take, but I guess time will tell. We'll see. Pete Slauson Yeah. So, Bose is like, well, he needs to calm you down. This is the art of war, my dear. He needs to calm you down so you don't act so he can act. This is all the stuff I learned at Netflix. And Dorit is like, but what does that mean though? Acting. I don't understand the advantage. So the advantage is that he wants to have you have the upper hand. If you're cornered like any animal, you're going to strike. And he's afraid of how smart you are

and how you will strike. He's calming you down, Dorit. Can't we get you follow about this so we can run the bases on you? Correct. Legally, you can scoop up everybody so that you don't have good counsel. Yeah, but he has to pay the counsel. That's the problem. He can't go hiring every lawyer in town. But I think their advice is correct with Dereet. Isn't it that if you meet-

Because Dereet's falling into the trap of being like, oh, guys, well, he called and he was nice. So maybe everything's different now. No, things are not different. If that man is still not showing up at your house and spending time with those children, things have not changed. But isn't, I could be totally wrong, but isn't it if you just like have a consult, like a your house and spending time with those children, things have not changed. I could be totally wrong, but isn't it if you just have a meeting with a lawyer

to see if maybe I should hire you or not, that that immediately takes them off the table for someone else? I could be totally wrong. I don't think so. I think you have to retain the lawyer. I think if you went to a lawyer and I ended up not using them,

that you would be able to use my lawyer, I think. What the fuck do I know? Nothing. Nothing. Huh. Huh. Well. So be it, John Jansen.

So Bo's like, Dorit needs to keep her eyes open. A divorce is going to come. It's going to take her by surprise. She's going to get the short end of the stick. And guess what? There won't be any chocolate sauce to dip that stick into. You can't just stand still and wait for him

to do things to you. You can't be a victim. Do you think this is a game? Yes, wake up. I'm just saying. She's like, whoa, holy shit. I loved her. I loved Bo's, be like,

I love Bo's yelling, wake up at Dorit. Wake up. It's great. Snap out of it. Wake yelling, wake up at Dorit. Wake up! Snap out of it. Wake up, wake up. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappins commercial. Hey y'all, it's your girl Kiki Palmer. And let me tell you, we're kicking off this new year

with a whole new mindset. You know how everyone's all about new year, new me. Well, on baby, this is Kiki Palmer, we're taking it to a whole other level. We're talking new year, new perspectives. And honey, it's gonna change your life. I sat down with astrology queen, Chani Nicholas. Y'all, if you wanna understand yourself better this year, this episode is it.

And then there's my chat with the incredible Da Vinci where nothing was off the table. If you're looking to level up your mindset this year, is it. And then there's my chat with the incredible Da Vinci where nothing was off the table. If you're looking to level up your mindset this year, his words are definitely gonna hit different. If you're ready for that new year, new mindset energy, you've got to tune into, baby, this is Kiki Palmer. Catch it on the Wanderer app

or wherever you get your podcasts. And for the full experience, head to my YouTube channel. If you're looking for more podcasts to help you tend to your wellbeing, check out New Year New Mindset on the Wondery app. Let's make this year our best one yet, baby. UFO lands in Suffolk and that's official, said the News of the World.

But what really happened across two nights in December, 1980, when US servicemen saw mysterious lights in the forest near RAF Woodbridge and claimed to have had a close encounter with an actual craft. Encounters, a new podcast available exclusively on Wondery+, takes a deep dive into one of the most famous and still unresolved UFO encounters to ever take place in the UK. Featuring shocking testimony from first-hand witnesses, hosts, journalist, podcaster and UFO researcher Andy McGillan, that's me, and producer Elle Scott

take us back to the nights in question and examine all of the evidence and conflicting theories about what was encountered in the middle of a snowy Suffolk forest 40 years ago. Are we alone? Encounters is a podcast which is going to find out. Listen to Encounters exclusively and ad free on Wondry Plus. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or in Apple podcasts. Welcome to the Offensive Line. You guys on this podcast, we're going to make some picks, talk some s*** and hopefully make

you some money in the process. I'm your host, Annie Hagar. So here's how this show's gonna work, okay? We're gonna run through the weekly slate of NFL and college football matchups, breaking them down into very serious categories like, no offense. No offense, Travis Kelce, but you gotta step up your game

if Pat Mahomes is saying the Chiefs need to have more fun this year. We're also handing out a series of awards and making picks for the top storylines surrounding the world of football. Awards like the He May Have a Point Award We're also handing out a series of awards and making picks for the top storylines surrounding the world of football. Awards like the He May Have a Point Award for the wide receiver that's most justifiably bitter.

Is it Brandon Iyuk, T Higgins, or Devontae Adams? Plus on Thursdays we're doing an exclusive bonus episode on Wondery Plus, where I share my fantasy football picks ahead of Thursday Night Football and the weekend's matchups. Your fantasy league is as good as locked in. Follow the offensive line on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can access bonus episodes and listen ad free right now by joining Wondry Plus. Let's go back to the sleepy streets of Augusta, Georgia, shall we? So Sudden FaceTime's Reba and she's like, do you have that Parmesan cheese? Oh, because Sudden FaceTimes Reba and she's like,

Hi, do you have that Parmesan cheese? Oh, because Sudden is in the kitchen, but Reba's in her house out back. So she FaceTimes her to be like, do you have Parmesan cheese? And Reba's like, now see, I couldn't open up your messages about the ingredients, mainly because I saw your name attached to it. And I said, I don't want to deal with my daughter right now. I'm having a good day. So why don't you go into the kitchen and look at the ingredients and see if you need anything. She goes, okay, mother, I'll see you soon. Well, why are you asking Reba to do it? Call Instacart. I mean, she has to have Avi.

Why isn't Avi doing it? You have Avi. So then Kyle sits in her bed and calls Kathy and Kathy is like, oh, hi, I'm just going outside. It's so beautiful. I had dinner with the girls and the other, oh gosh, did you see the flowers? I had those flowers made.

It's like, Kathy, you're on FaceTime. You need to stop holding the phone up to your ear. She's like, oh, we're sorry. Sorry, Kyle. Sorry, Kyle. So. I'm gonna have to put it above her head. And Kyle's like, okay, well, now I can see

the top of your sun hat. She looked it above her head. And I was like, okay, well, now I can see the top of your sun hat. So by the way, Mo and Portia lead today for Europe and because he's gonna take her on that trip and he's just dropping her off, like a guided tour with her chaperone. Then he goes off for like four days,

like Switzerland and a meditation thing. And he goes off to meet like PK and Sandra Peiha. And Kathy's like, okay, that's great. Well, I do that every weekend. So it's not so surprising to me. Have a great day. Go, you know, that's great to be all meditative and everything. Yeah, yeah, they got like party and everything. Wow. Pete Slauson So then, Garcelle is on the couch with Joombug and Joombug's just staring at Garcelle. She's like, well, hello. Where's your mother? Why are you staring at me? Sudden? All right, let, hello. Where's your mother? Why are you staring at me?

Sutton, all right, let's go find your mother. You're making me very uncomfortable. The dog's just like. So then Sutton's in the kitchen with Avi and she's like, did my mother text you? He's like, no, but I've also blocked her. She's like, okay, well, she didn't get any of my ingredients. I mean, I need so much.

I need, there's no bread. I need all these things. He's like, okay, well, she didn't get any of my ingredients. I mean, I need so much, I need, there's no bread. I need all these things. He's like, well, your mom got that gluten-free. I asked for a very specific kind of bread, okay? Then I, you know, I asked for a cucumber and there's no cucumber in this salad. Like then I, or I asked for something else. And like, look, she's just getting all wrong,

all despot me. She wants to ruin my crab cakes. Okay. I texted mama, but she couldn't read it. She couldn't open my notes. And obviously, I said, once you get on your Wi-Fi, you could open it. It just needs to download. I thought she got it done.

Oh my God, you're talking to my mother about Wi-Fi? Are you kidding? She tried to have that outlawed. So, Garcelle is like about done with the kitchen and then she sees it's like tense. So she just sort of like, she just, she backs out. She was like, I'm not getting involved with this. So she just goes to the side and listen in. So it sounds like I was very, very specific. I said, no cucumbers, no gluten-free bread. And what did she get me? Cucumbers and gluten-free bread.

I mean, it's like, she just hates me. You know, guess what? I love crab cakes. And she tells a story about how her dad always made the best crab cakes and he gave her the recipe and in fact, then her mom loves them. And like two days after he died, they actually made the crab cakes for Christmas Eve and then she burned them. I was like, oh my God, this story just keeps on like the burnt crab cakes on Christmas Eve. But the fact that they haven't had the Christmas Eve, I mean, I get that you were probably just, you know, trying to move on, but that is just, can I just say that so Southern to be like,

Christmas must go on. Everybody get their dresses on and we shall have crab cakes. Sutton, do them. Well, Sutton failed everybody. Let's just enjoy this Christmas. It's like, well, geez, my God, that was the next day. And then Sutton's like, we have to have Osberg lettuce. I was like, okay, you are totally unraveled right now

because no one is screaming that unless you're making a wedge. So then Kyle goes to check in on Garcelle and Garcelle's like, oh God, son's a little stressed out. I don't know how it's gonna go. She's like, well, I told her, have zero expectations. This is about getting it off her chest, whatever it is. I'm not even sure what this is about, but like, you, I told her, have zero expectations. This is about getting it off her chest, whatever it is. I'm not even sure what this is about. But her mom is 82 years old. I

wonder if I'll ever get to meet her, by the way. I love that lady who's downstairs though. It's not about changing people at this point. So she's like, sentence a little on edge. And I think that's understandable. I mean, ever since Ted passed, but she's been putting this conversation she's wanted to have with her mom for a very long time. And I think it's really building up and she's just scared. That's what it is. She's scared. So now Sutton downstairs is telling the maid, I guess, Cheryl, she's her housekeeper. She's like, Cheryl, I'm waiting on my mother. And Cheryl's just like, now I told you if I was going to keep this job, it was under the order that I would not have to mess with your mother. I need my mother. And she's like, okay, okay.

So she walks out so pissed off that she has to go to Reba's house. And she goes, okay, Dick. She goes knock, knock. She goes, it's time for dinner. And Ree was like, well, okay. Now Dixie, I'm leaving you for a while, but I'll be back in a little while. And then we pan over to her fucking dog Dixie. This was the most perfect dog. And this was Dixie Carter in dog form, wasn't it? This, it was Dixie Carter,

but it sort of had Eileen Davidson here a little bit. It was so funny. It was, I actually was like, I, I, I, I literally rebounded. I was like, of course, Reba has this dog like the long flat hair that like flares out at the, at the bottom and then like, but the poofy things around the legs and everything was just a poodle. Like it's legs crossed.

And it was just sitting there. And you know, the poodle was just the Reba of dogs too, you know? Yeah, the poodle was like, don't forget the parmesan this time. None of your business, bravo, woof woof. Bring Romaine in here again and you're dead to me, woman. Reba, Nadine, our note taker, says that Reba Dixie is an Afghan hound, which I think that is the long hair that comes out is like the defining feature of an Afghan hound, I think.

So, Cheryl, so Reba goes, and she enters the kitchen, she goes, hello, I'm here. And Sudden and Avi just are silent. And Reba sees what sees there's like a jar of pickled okra. She goes, oh, some pickled okra. I love pickled okra. And Avi just takes a bite of pickled okra and just kind of like stares at her. With his hands. Yeah. And Reba just stares at him like pig. and he's like, eating it with my hands, bitch. But I think there was also that element of like, and you're not going to offer me one.

Like a lady just entered the room and said she likes pickled okra and you ate one but you didn't offer me one. Like she was disgusted on so many levels, the hands, the mouth. It was definitely a power play. I love that he just reached in with his fingers, grabbed a pickled okra and swallowed it in front of her face and then walked away. I was like, yes, Avi.

And like, and she, and Reba just gives her, gives him a long ass dank face. Like she just is like, mm-hmm. She's like doing that thing where she's like walking down through the kitchen, still looking at Avi like, I saw what you did. I saw my own eyes. Sudden is, she was like,

I'll make the crab meat patties while we're talking. Okay, so, okay, mother, this is my capsule collection. She's like, this is your what? My capsule collection, mother. Okay, this is what I've been working on. This is my sustainable green line that I do for Sudden Brands. And she goes, oh, all right.

That's great. Hey, as long as we're talking about sustainability, could you sustain those crab cakes a little bit more and keep an eye on them in the kitchen, please? She's like, okay. If you ever had ability to do a proper crab cake, it would be wonderful if you could sustain that too. Fortunately, you've never had that ability to sustain.

So that's a shame. Capsule now. Sustainability, I guess that's the word we don't use with your marriage to your ex. So Sutton's like, well, the past two and a half years, I've been working very hard on my new business and we have started Sutton Green Line. And under that, I'm gonna do a series of capsules.

And Reba's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Green Line, capsules, none of that. She's like, it's shirts and pants. Just say it's shirts and pants, Sutton. Well, for all my life, I've been wanting to do acceptance from my mother. And she was always a queer woman, and I'm so proud of her. I just want it to be reciprocated.

So Reba's rubbing her fingers on this like kind of plastic-y skirt thing and she goes, is this real? She goes, yes, mother, it's real. Like real saran wrap or real? Real, mother, it's just real. As in animal skin or pencil erasers, what is this supposed to be? It's real, mother, it's real. No, I didn't mean are the materials real. I meant is this real or is this a joke? Like this is what you're proud of that you brought a trench coat into my house?

So then there's a beige trench coat jumpsuit thing and it has a big round patch that says name them. Who's gonna wear that? No, yeah. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm not your mother so you don't need my validation, but that is a stupid jacket.

Take the name them off there. You need to either have fashion, or you need to have t-shirts with like your funny sayings on them. You can't make high fashion, and then put housewives quotes on them. No one's paying the college for that. No, no, don't do that.

So Reba's like, oh, so this is a jumpsuit, so good. You can look like the cable man. And son's like, well, mother, it's actually a trench, and it's really cute. You know, this and put this on, you know, I just tried this on last week. It looks really good because well, it would look awful on me. I mean, I'm very happy with my body. I just know that something that looks this awful on a table can't possibly look good on me as a human. Now, listen, I'll tell you who would it. It would look good on Inspector Gadget. He around, maybe he's got a budget.

Well, it's very complicated. It's very intense work. Cause every single piece that you see has a code and it goes to London. Cause that's where they're based. It's super fast and ships out from Houston. It's not easy mama. She goes, reminds me of ground beef.

You know, ground beef is labeled made in the U S S not, it's made in Cuba. She says Cuba in this way. I was like, I felt offensive. I'm like, not totally sure why, but I just felt like it wasn't right. Enjoy your commie burgers. From Cuba. So, son goes, okay, well, I'm going to take these products and I don't care where they are and where they're made because I'm saving them from going to a landfill. Oh, like your marriage did. Okay, mother, that's too much.

Okay, it's not like ground beef. I love that because that is just such a mom thing to say. Like ground beef. So Garstel and Kyle are listening in and Garrestel's like, oh good, they're talking. They're making little passive aggressive swipes at each other. This is going great. But they're only on the clothing part. So then we cut back and Sutton's like, I'm going to cut up some lettuce real fast.

Okay. What would you like to drink? Cyanide? A bleach? Got a little drain out here. You want me to help you? What would you like to drink? Cyanide, a bleach. Got a little drain out here. You want me to help you? What would you like, mother?

She goes, you realize I live by myself, right? So she opens the fridge and starts going through it. She goes, you want me to get out the crab meat? She goes, yes, please, mother. Thank you. So truly about to have a breakdown. I don't know, for some of this, I just see the mom is just being like, whatever, great job, what's next?

Like, something's really expecting a lot out of this woman that I just don't think she has a dinner together. Nope, not anymore. And so Reba's like, by the way, what time are you leaving? You know, I mean, I love having you all here, but Dixie gets very uncomfortable around homosexuals, which is odd considering the way she looks. So I just want to know when Obby's going to clear out. Son's like, well, our flight's at 2.30.

Okay, 2.30. By the way, why are there spoons in the freezer? Are we having caviar? And who put this ice in the ice maker? Don't tell me. I already know. The care bearer over there. Have you eaten yet? Mother, you're grouchier than usual. She Care Bear over there. Have you eaten yet?

Mother, you're grouchier than usual. She's like, no. She's like, okay, well, have these dip things, okay? I can't deal with your hangry self. She's like, well, I don't like stuff like that. Dips. That's for poor people. I'm anti-dips.

She goes, so I was talking to John Clark last night, and that's her brother. So we see the flashback of her talking to her brother. And she's like, well, I just don't know if she gets me or understands what I do. And he goes, oh, well, I think so. I mean, she didn't say that. She goes, so you just have ESP? And he goes, well, I mean, you can tell. She goes, I can't tell. I feel like she's so guarded. And he goes, you know, I mean, think about what she does for a living. So I know, but we are not her patients. So we come back and Sutton's like, you know, I was just like, I was just telling my, I was telling John,

John Clark, I was saying, I just don't know if mom understands what I do or is proud at all. And he was like, Oh, you're going to try to do this to me on camera. Huh? Like her face has that look like she just squints at her and she says, well, why are you making that face? And she goes, well, I just don't understand that. You don't understand what? Any of it. Any of what? Why you would think I wouldn't be proud of you? Well, you don't say it. She goes, well, I don't need to. Do I need to say that the person who put the wrong ice in the ice compartment is your twit of a gay? No, we all know it. Well, maybe I need you to say it. She's just, well, okay, I'm proud of you. To me, it's kind of like

saying, I love you. It's so trite and so inconsequential. People just say, oh, I love you. It's overused. That's what I was about to be like. And I'd also like you to tell me I love you. She's like, oh, okay. So then, Gracel and Kyle have migrated to the bottom of the stairs and we just cut to their faces and it's a beautiful pose. They're just like, huh? Uh, so Reba's like, I think your prelude to this point is I was the way I was because I wanted to be a professional working woman and that got impressed on you and you've actually become me. Ha ha ha, a professional working. He was like, guess what? You're me. You may hate me, but you are me. So get used to it. She goes, well, it took me time because I wanted to stay home with my children. And she goes, well,

that's fine. And she goes, but you gave him grief for it. She goes, well, what does it matter? You did it anyway. One of them turned out weird and I'd warned you, get sent home with him. Now you got a weird one, but that's okay. That's your choice. We are okay with the weird ones. Keep some of my business in business. Yeah. So she was like, well, I don't think it's right to tell your children you're proud of them. And I don't think it's right to tell your children that you love them. She goes, well, I thought about that because it seems to be an issue not only with you, but with some of your friends So I had to go back to the way I was raised

That was so like Like the little venom that she just inserts is so good Yeah, she's like well, I was raised a World War two post and in those days No one told me I was pretty when I was growing up and it didn't't matter whether I was pretty or ugly, because I just kept going, because that's the way it was. Remember, in those days, mothers put their baby in the crib and they just cried. Okay? And look how that turned out.

Look how well adjusted Sutton is. So Sutton is like, she's like, well, I guess if it's trapped to you, I certainly don't want to make you do anything that it's not real for you. I just want to let you know how I feel." She says, well, thank you very much for telling me that. Which is her way of saying, well, go fuck yourself. Well, there's just so much in this conversation that's like crazy. So the mom, it's not crazy, it's just there's a lot of layers to it.

So the mom's saying, you know, I feel like you have kind of a disrespect for me because I was never there for you growing up. So you feel like I didn't love you because I wasn't some stay at home mom, but I was a woman who wanted a career and I went and got a fucking career and I'm not gonna apologize to you for it. And Sutton's like, well, that's fine,

but then you didn't respect my choice as a woman when I decided to stay home with my children. And she's like, but I did respect it. And she's like, no, you really didn't. You've never respected me ever since then. And you don't consider my career real because it wasn't my original career. I came up with it after I raised my children.

So a lot of this is beyond even mothering, you know? It's just like a womanhood argument. It's so complicated. Which has been going on forever. I mean, there's just so many layers to it. And it's actually pretty fascinating. I would love like even more episodes of this this just listening to these two kind of go at it and peeling back what it really is.

This, this was like the Southern Gothic version of like the Monica and Linda scene from Salt Lake City. No, no, theirs was all fake. No, there's but there will know theirs was theirs was a, uh, there's was like the trashy. There's was like the trashy version of this, right? But it was like very compelling to me because they had all this, they have all this package between them and now we're seeing the baggage here, but this is like that Southern, like we don't talk about those things kind of things.

And so whereas Monica and Linda was the opposite where it was like, oh, we're gonna, we actually overshare all this bullshit. So Sudden is, I just loved this, I loved, it was just so cold when Sudden is like, well, I just wanted you to tell me, I don't wanna make you say something that you don't, you know, you don't feel comfortable saying, but I just wanted to let you know how I felt.

And the mom just being like, oh, well, thanks so much for sharing that. Like, do you feel better now? Do you feel better now that you've said that? Okay, thanks. So I have my show and I'm doing a fashion show for this capsule and it's a very big deal for me, you know? And I know you don't like to travel,

but it would be great. She goes, I don't mind traveling. Okay, well, you tell me that you don't wanna, I mind traveling to places where that little man is is what I see it Specifically, but you know, I might could come to California. I think I could do that Just but that would speak volumes to me mother. Just drive to sleep in Phillips room Please just don't make me sleep in the weirdos room, please. I Love that. She said I might could come I was like, oh gosh, just really leaning into the Southern stuff.

So this is like a big breakthrough. The music changes. It's like nice. It's like, hey, hey, audience, we've decided that this is a, this is a nice moment because the mother gave a mild concession. So that's for her because that is her saying she's not going to break down and be like, oh, I do love you, honey. Cause it's just not her and she's not going to break and do it for TV, which I kind of

respect, actually, that she's like, I'm not going to give you that because you're blatantly bantering at this point. I'm not giving it to you. But I will show it to you by coming to see your little fashion show. And that's a bigger deal, I think. So I think she communicated it in her way. Which is a parallel. She's a stubborn, she's a stubborn lady, but I think at least she's going to show, if she does show up, then at least she's going to show it. So I was actually, that's a big deal for her. And this was of course a parallel to the discussion between Bose and, about Bose and Keeley, about

like what needs to be said, what doesn't need to be said. So this is like a really well made episode. So Sudden is like, well, where would you like to sleep? Mother just, well, is the aquarium still in that one room? Cause I can't sleep with the fish in there, you know, she was like, okay, mother, well I just want to be better. And Reba goes, well, we can do better. And she goes, I know we can. And so Sudden is like actually really touched because her mom said we can do better. She says it gives her so much hope

for their relationship going forward. And she's like, I'm coming in for the hug, mama. You don't have to hug me back. She goes, oh God, do I have to stand up? She's like, no. And now I can make crab cakes. And girl, when she served those crab cakes, they were burned.

I felt bad. They were. And I'm proud of Reba for not saying anything. I, they were burned. I felt bad. They were- And I'm proud of Reba for not saying anything. I think they were browned. I don't think they were burned. They were on the edge. They were on the edge. Burned.

So they hug and everything. And so now she's like, okay, I'm gonna go get my friends. So it's like a very sitcom moment because sudden goes into the foyer to call down Garcel and Kyle and they're already there. So they go running. Garcel runs away and she doesn't really get to hide, but Kyle goes back up the stairs and then turns around and comes down, walks down the stairs.

If she was just casually walking down the stairs, it was actually one of the funniest things that Kyle ever did. The way that Kyle came down that staircase again like, you know I was I was already headed down. I died. That was the best that may have been the best thing that college was ever dead So it all went really well. It was very calm and she's gonna come to the fashion show and grass I was like, I'm so proud of you and cause like that's so great. Good for you. So when do we get to meet your mom? What fashion show is happening? So, so she serves the crab cake, they cook the crab cakes and then they, they, they are like,

it's happy now. It's cooking. They sit down, crab cakes are served and everything. And Reba is smiling. Reba goes, this salad is good. Which, you know, again, that was her way of saying, I love you daughter and I'm proud of you. Yeah. And she said, well, I just want to give a cheers. I'll leave here with a smile on my face and I want to be a better daughter. And Reba says, a friend. She goes, and a friend. She goes, yeah, good. Got it. Nailed it.

And suddenly goes, all right. So as you are my new friend, I'm going to leave you with cleanup duty. Bye. Wow. Great episode. Like a real tour de force like that. Like I literally think that Bravo should submit that to the Emmys for consideration. It'll never get nominated because you know, the Emmys are are like they're totally biased against our craft of the Real Housewives but it was so good that I actually think they should submit that one because it was like it was like kind of a great perfect hour of television. That was a good one. All right everybody well thanks so much for being with us.

Thanks for being with us on Patreon on video and we will talk to you next time. Head over to Patreon for video and Traders Recaps and we'll talk to you soon. Bye guys. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee It's Amanda Foster. It's always automatic with Ashley Otto Ashley Savoni She don't take no baloney put your hands together for Carly clap Catherine D. Bernardo has our harto get on the right foot with Chrissy off it Dana C Dana do we never miss her call It's Diane call Aaron McNicholas. She don't miss no trickle. Us Jamie. She has no less namey You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. I go, you go, we all go for Hugo. Hava Nagila Weber.

We could all learn from Jennifer Kearns. She's our kind of mess, it's Jennifer Messer. Sip some scotch with Jessica Tratch. Knock knock knocking on Katie Mannock's door. She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock. Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a B in your bonnet with Lacey B. Rigging the funk, it's Leslie Plunkett.

She gets an A from us, it's Lindsey B. Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. We love her on the rocks, it's Melissa Cox. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the Berg. This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian. I love a ya, Olivia Williamson.

Tastier than Flanderson, it's Rachel Manderson. She sure is swell, it's Raquel! Yes we canna, it's Sedana! Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. The Bay Area Betches, Betches! And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP, it's Amanda V.

Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD. She's gotta leg up, it's Beth Ani. We're takin' the gold with Brenda Silva. Let's get real with Kaitlyn O'Neal. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily sides. Who what why where and Gwen Pentland it's our Queen it's Queen Laifa nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall

know your worth with Jason Kurt we got our wish it's Jen Plish she's not harsh she's Jill Hirsch she's a little bit loony Junie my favorite Murdo Karen McMurdo we love him madly it's Kyle Pod Shadley. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron. She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthi. Always killing it, it's Lola Alcolani. The incredible, edible Matthews sisters. She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose.

Give him hell, Miss Noelle. She's the queen bee, it's Sarah Lemke. Shining out of a cannon, Anthony. Let's take off with Tamla Plain. She ain't no shrinking Violet Coutar. She's the queen bee, it's Sarah Lemke! Shinin' out of a cannon, Anthony! Let's take off with Tamla Plain! She ain't no shrinkin' Violet Coutar! We love you guys! If you like Watch What Crappens, you can listen ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus

in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.