Watch What Crappens - #2728 Southern Charm S10E09 Bahama Shucks

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

Shep wants to impress everyone with his new young love on this week’s Southern Charm trip to the Bahamas, but it looks like the love in question has come down with a case of the ick. Shucks! To watch this recap on video, listen to our Traitors bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Tickets for the Mounting Hysteria Tour are now on sale at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Well hello and welcome to Watch What Crappins! A podcast for all the crap we love to talk about. On you, bros. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi, how are you? Good. Everybody, welcome to the show today. Happy Valentine's Day. We sure love you. What a special Valentine's Day to watch Shep just get shit all over on Southern Charm. What a great point. Happy Valentine's Day. It's a ghosting episode. It is glorious.

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Previously on Southern Charm, Fnita was mopping over some little bridge troll while Shep is getting mixed messages from Sienna. Listen, these are not mixed messages. The messages are stop fucking calling me, you creep. I only flirted with you to get a picture with you for my grandmother. Now leave me the fuck alone, you weirdo.

You smell and you have your hair. Shep could only wish he was getting mixed messages. It turns out he's not getting any messages at all. That's the problem, okay? Read the writing that's not even on the wall. Just move on. Yeah. So then just when Austin decided

it was time to play hard to get, and then we see Austin and Madison out for lunch, it was clear that Craig and Paige weren't even on the same. Well, Paige, get it? Yeah. Been waiting many years to use that pun on the show. They're like, finally. Ha ha ha.

Finally using the Paige pun with the Paige scene. Page, Paige pun. And then we just see Paige miserable around goats and bees. And when they all got together for Pat's annual guys' dinner. Hey, I'm just here to excuse terrible men. Ding, ding, ding, Craig was feeling the heat. And then we see everybody giving Craig shit for not settling down with Paige,

which the hypocrisy still stings a week later from these guys. Whitney, Shep, and Austin, all giving someone shit about committing. Yes. I mean, look, it's- It's just a girl. You know, it's just the way, it's their thing. So now we see, now it's time to start the,

this is actually a shocking way to start the episode because first we go to Sally's where she's, she's like, she's skateboarding, but like her dog is like trying to run along with her and get on the skateboard. It's like, it's cute. And then we go. It's not cute.

What the fuck is that woman doing? And where are social services? Get the hell over there. Listen, I like Sally, okay? And I wouldn't take her child away after the blow job in the car thing. In fact, I'd give her more kids. But having your child run where there's a skateboard

and then she's like, what are you doing? But it's, save that dog, save that dog from that crazy woman. Yeah, that dog did almost get run over in the process, but I was just like, oh, okay, it's a skateboard and a dog. Usually those concepts lead to cuteness. So then we go to Taylor's house. You know, there's so many videos of dogs and a dog. Usually those concepts lead to cuteness. So then we go to Taylor's house. You know, there's so many videos of dogs and skateboards.

You just, I'm like automatically. Do you know how many dead dogs led to those videos? Because practice makes perfect, right? So then we go to Taylor's house and she's feeding Penny a chicken nugget from Bojangles. And Taylor's like, I don't feel like making my bed. And then we really, you know, her personality just continues to develop. And then that was her casting video. They were like, Hey,

we need someone with a lot of charisma. And Taylor's just like, I just, I would do my laundry today, but I just don't want to. They're perfect. You're perfect for this show. Put it right on there. And then we go to Shep's house and he is getting out of bed and he's in his underwear and little Craig is there. And so the reason why this is so shocking to me

is that we have a people doing things with their dogs opening. And who was not there? It was Vanita and Charles. I was like, Vanita and Charles kind of pioneered this genre of opening scene and I don't know how they're not included in it. I don't know how Shep and Greg.

Charles has become a diva now because Charles is like, oh really, want me to do an opening scene? Have the other dogs do it. Unless you pay me when I'm ready to be paid, you can suck a dick, all of you. That's what I said, tell Haymaker. It came from Charles. Charles has made a whole career out of this.

He's like, see if those other dogs can replace me. Oh, what the what, running under the skateboard? Dead, dead. Some of us run to cars, not skateboards. Find a milk truck to chase, you newbie. So then we go to human Craig's house and he's got all sorts of stuff on the counter and he puts on a cowboy hat

and then he sits down to FaceTime page and she's like, what are you wearing? Have you been doing ayahuasca? Please take that off in my presence. Okay, you know what, Craig, I'm just gonna break up with you. I was blindsided. I told you I can't play, I can't pay anyone know what, Craig, I'm just gonna break up with you. I was blindsided. I told you I can't play,

I can't date anyone in a white cable bit sweater and a stupid felt hat. We're breaking up. So you will marry me. So then, then his phone rings and Madison calls. And so he sort of puts them all together on to FaceTime to have a group chat,

because they're gonna like be, you know, because Madison, I think Madison is one of the few people that Paige likes. So Craig is like, so I think the whole group is going to the Bahamas. And Madison's like, I know, I feel bad because we still don't know what's going on with Brett, you know, because he's got that, you know,

he's got the throat thing or whatever, the liver thing. So we see flashbacks of him and dealing with cancer and everything and trying to figure it out. And so she's basically saying that she's gonna go on this trip because he's gonna be in California and Hudson's gonna be out of town. So what's the point of staying home and worrying? And even if he was here,

it's not like he's telling me shit anyway. And Craig's like, well, I mean, if he's going to California anyway, it's not like he's telling me shit anyway. And Craig's like, well, I mean, if he's going to California anyway, it's better to be in the Bahamas than just like sitting around Charleston. Well, is it? I mean, in the Bahamas I have to see shirt and Austin shirtless. So I'm not really sure which is more traumatizing. I know that's honestly, it's a, it's a, it's, it's,

it's a little bit of a draw, if you ask me. Which is more of a boner killer. Shep shirtless are waiting for cancer tests. Mm, I'm just saying Charleston. So, she's just gonna, and then she makes a comment. They're just sort of bantering it, and then she goes, well, listen, you know what?

I'm just gonna celebrate every day that I'm not pregnant, so yolo. And then Paige goes, you and me too, sister. God, pregnancy, the worst. And of course now Madison is pregnant. But. So Paige is not going to the Bahamas. She's like, oh, sorry. I have two photo shoots next week that I can't reschedule. One is me shooting myself on a stoop in jeans and the other is me shooting myself at a bar,

not giving a fuck that all you losers are gonna see me in the on a stoop in jeans, and the other is me shooting myself at a bar, not giving a fuck that all you losers are... How is your show still on? Can anybody... I booked a really important session with myself and my iPhone in my bed, so have fun in the Bahamas.

I was gonna make an effort to be on this show until I heard you had to sit through a three-hour tuba concert, so. And not even a full size tuba, like that's gross. I don't wanna go there so bad I burned my passport. Paige, you don't need a passport to come to Charleston. Well, just in case. So Craig's like, well, I'm excited to meet Sienna,

but like poor Shep, he was kind of like spinning out a little bit at dinner. And then we have a flashback to Austin asking Shep if they talk every day and Shep is like, gosh, we haven't seen each other in a month and a half. As his like feet are like rattling beneath the table. And Craig is like, you shouldn't have to force someone into liking you if the person likes you.

Stop the car. Now let's listen to what we just said to ourselves, okay? Okay, keep driving. I know. Keep driving. Please, please. If the person likes you, they'll make time for you and they'll definitely want to be pregnant for you.

Stop the car, stop the car, stop the car. The girl that you like just refused to make time for you. Okay, just like that, see Kim. Okay, keep driving, keep driving. It's an insecurity that I've dealt with because Paige is so busy and her career is like one of her biggest priorities and I had to learn how to exist in that world

by refusing to move up there and existing in her world. Well, the rumors are, and who knows, because we have to watch both of these damn shows play out now, it's like the saddest Marvel universe I've ever seen. I'm like, oh my God. This is like having to watch that professor, no, doctor, not Magneto,

what's the one who's like a magician? The one that Sherlock plays. Benedict Cumberbatch. It's like having to sit through that one to understand the next movie. Wait, Doctor Wonderful, Doctor Strange? Doctor Strange, yeah. The first one was good, but the second one,

I was like, I have to sit through this just to understand the other one? Come on, man. Doctor Wonderful's like, why don't I get a superhero movie? I'm literally Doctor Wonderful. They're like, no, let me give it to Doctor Strange. Oh, Doctor Strange. I'm Doctor Wonderful. Let's get back to him.

Gersh. Sienna, I'm Doctor Wonderful. Why don't you call me back, Gersh? I don't have a job when I get money in a mailbox. Doctor Wonderful. Sorry I cheated. I'm writing a prescription for three hugs as long as you return my text. Dr. Wonderful

So Paige is telling them yeah, she's not really texting it back But I guess that's a shitty feeling and Paige is like well obviously she doesn't like him Which is the impression I've been trying to give you Yeah, she's just not that into you. That's just the deal. Okay? Now I think that's this is all a fantasy in Shep's mind I mean, they're 20 years apart. I don't think he's in love with the idea of love I think he's in love with the way she looks. I mean she's stunning. I get it Yeah, I think Shep is in love with her like like old dudes are in love with you know, really expensive Lambos or whatever You know how when you see a Lambo, you never see a hot guy riding one?

Because by the time you can never afford to get one, you're all crinkly and sunburnt. I think that's Sienna to Shep. He's just like, this is that last grasp to prove his penis still works. And it's just not working. Sorry, you're gonna have to do other things now to prove your worth, sir,

than get hot girls to show your friends. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a hot guy emerge from a Lambo or a Ferrari or any fancy car. I think the greatest chance you have of seeing a hot guy emerge from a car is to keep an eye out on a Toyota Corolla. Let's be honest. That's going to be a hot guy vehicle because he's spending all his money on his gym. If you want a hot guy coming out of a hot car, you got to get old and crinkly and rich enough to get a hot car and then kidnap a hot guy and then let him out at some point. Very serenade.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I like hot guys. Like they just spend, they spend all their money on the gym. So they just don't have money for life. We all know the hottest guys are on the bus, okay? There, we said it. So Paige is like, I can't believe that Sienna

is kind of like ghosting Shep, but like also still hosting. I'm just like confused by it, but at the same time, I love the passive aggression that she's doing. So I kind of like her. And Madison's like, I mean, I feel like we're gonna go sit there. I thought we'd go sit there and watch Jeff get dumped. Should I ask for invitations?

I mean, this actually sounds like the best, the best episode of the year to me. This is really moving the needle for me to get out of Charleston. Yeah, but they were saying, I love you and stuff. And Paige is like, okay, well, this they were saying, I love you and stuff. And Paige is like, okay, well, this has been fascinating, but I really have to get ready to my flight to nowhere. So am I allowed to leave now?

Hold on, group one is boarding from my bedroom to my kitchen, so I'll text you when I land tomorrow. I'd just like to say goodbye to boarding group seat. Goodbye boarding group C. Because you know, Paige, even in her fictional flights is flying at top tier boarding class. I've been around Southwest. Oh, you did, didn't you?

Yeah, because that's where you get boarding group C. The other ones are by numbers. Yeah. Boarding group C is for the lazy people who don't read this during time. Cause you know, you have to like call, well you can pay for an early bird ticket now where they give you a slot that you can stand in line.

But if you don't do that, then you have to call first. You have to be the first to check in. And you know, that's how they do it. So if you're like the last one to check in, you're in group C, which sucks. You always have to sit in the middle. So whenever the last people come on the plane in Southwest you just look at them like oh you lazy unprepared fool enjoy it back there in the middle of the homeliest people in town. At least for the next six months because then they're gonna start

closing down open seating which is a real sad sad sad state of affairs we can't yeah can't have those power plays anymore yeah that's a I'm gonna miss that yeah yeah you'll just I'm also gonna miss you'll have to judge every group as they come in you can't just wait for group C it's gonna take it's gonna take all your judgment concentration I really with Southwest I really get off on the micro power plays like you know like you you gotta you know there's like the section that says management concentration. I really, with Southwest, I really get off on the micro power plays. Like you know, like you got to, you know, there's like the section that says, Oh, B 25 to B 30.

And then you're B 27 and there's like someone standing like at the front of the five person section and you're like, excuse me, what's, which one are you? Or are you know, or the best is when you have like B 25. So you know, you're the front of the section of your little five person section. And there's always like a lady there who's like harried. And then you say, oh, excuse me, what seat are you? As if you don't know that you are entitled to be the first one in the five person section. And she goes, oh, I'm B31.

Oh, oh, you know what? I'm B25, I actually stand here, so okay. I actually reverse power play that because I know that people are like that. And I hate the people who move themselves up to the front of the line. So if I get the front of the line naturally, I stand at the very end of the flag

and then people have to come up to me and go, what number are you? And then they're like, oh, you're in front of us. So then I move up a little bit and then people keep moving me up in front until I'm right by that person. That is a really fun, that is like a,

cause you're making them do all the work for it, which is as for me, I really, well, and my method is high risk, cause you know, if you're not like number 25, then when you go up to someone and say, excuse me, what number are you? Because I'm B27, they go, I'm B26. I go, okay, great, I'll just stand right behind you.

You immediately bow to them, You're like, okay. I'm like, you know what, I tried it. Did I look you in the eye? It wasn't intended. Can I get your beverage? Anything you need, you're higher than me. Whatever you need, go ahead. No, the person who's naturally like the 25 or whatever,

even if I'm 26, or even if I'm 25 and they're 26, they're never gonna move, even if everybody in the line is like, you're before me, you're 25, you're before me, they're 26, they're never gonna move even if everybody in the line is like, you're before me, you're 25, you're before me, you're 25, you're before me, you're 25. 26 has heard all of that. So they know that my ass is 25 when I'm standing right behind them,

but they also know the rest of the line knows. And so we just all stand there and stare at them like that inconsiderate fuck, you know? And it just feels so good. But you know what I hate? I hate when it's like, if you no, no, no, no, no. You're in the next tier down. Excuse you. You're like in a different neighborhood, fool. Get out. Yeah, and they would try it.

Always. So Madison's like, well, don't worry, ship will be all right. And Craig's like, well, I mean, I'm a lawyer. Okay, stop the car. Let's just all LOL for a minute. And then I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, always. So Madison's like, well, don't worry, Shep will be all right. And Craig's like, well, I mean, I'm a lawyer. Okay, stop the car. Let's just all LOL for a minute. All right. Craig is a lawyer.

He's a lawyer now. I could technically write up the visa paperwork for her, like a K-1, which just means if Shep proposes, she would get a temporary visa. So when, I don't know, but like all I know is that when Sienna gets detained by border control, she will then have to still have to say, who wrote this K-1 for you? A guy who runs a pillow company. Can I just say that the reason we know what K-1 is, schedule K-1 is an IRS form used by partnerships as corporations and estates and trusts

to declare income and deductions. Just write up the K-1 for her. I guess he's gonna say they're in a partnership so she would get a temporary visa. I don't know that that's the same thing. I think he could do that even if Shet didn't propose. If you're just going to pretend she owns part of the pillow factory or whatever. He's just referencing the latest form that Jerry told him about. He was like, Hey Shep, I mean, hey, hey, Craig, can you get me a K1? I mean, as a lawyer, I could like write her like

a K1 and a W9 and a W42 and a K9 and a B25 and a B30, special K. The cereal, not the drug. So lawyers will be emailing us. So lawyers, when you're emailing us, I am calling Craig a moron, and I'm gonna stand by that for a while, because I don't think that means what he thinks it means. Now, I'm sure it probably means something different,

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head to my YouTube channel. If you're looking for more podcasts to help you tend to your well-being, check out New Year New Mindset on the Wondery app. Let's make this year our best one yet, baby. So Madison's like, well, I think that that temporary visa would be the worst thing to do. So Madison's like well, I think that that temporary visa would be the worst thing to do He cannot marry a girl that's ghosting him. Okay, this is the South you marry someone kill them then they ghost you okay. Yes So Shep goes to Kenny Flowers flagship and cabana club, which is because it's Charleston a place where you buy clothes And the clothes sound about as good as that title so He's like gosh. I'm going to the bottom, but I want to look cool. That's why I came to Kenny Flowers flagship and command a club

Well girl, I'm not a mere sorry We're gonna get some florals We're gonna get florals. I just want to look cool. I'm not a miracle worker sir, okay? Okay, well I'm gonna let that pass Show me the most floral thing you've got, girl. Well, here's some of the drinks and cocktails on it. Well, drinks can taste floral, I'll take it. Matching shorts too. Hey, listen, it's me.

I'm sure I'll be wearing a drink no matter what I wear, so. So Molly shows up And she's also gonna buy some she's gonna help him buy clothes But she's also gonna look for a bikini and he's like gosh I love shopping with girls and then we see a flashback to shopping with Cameron back in 2013 I can't believe the show's been on that long She's like no ship that looks bad ship that looks good ship Shep. That looks good, Shep. That looks bad, come on, Shep. You look stupid, Shep. Come on, Shep.

Molly needs to drop her insecure bullshit. I'm so sick of it. Molly is one of the most gorgeous people. She plays a tuba. She's got a great personality. She's funny. And every time you see her, she's like, I'm fat. How are you doing?

Feeling fat. Okay, well, where do we go from there? You're not fat, okay? Stop it, Molly, stop it. I'm gonna pull up in my antivan and shove you in there and drive you around the circles telling you you're not fat. And I say, how are you? And you're like, not fat.

That's what I wanna hear. Right? Get out of my way. Yeah. So Shep is just saying that he's like trying to, trying to buy something that a girl would find attractive. It stands to reason. Yes, so of course that's why you're here at Mr. Furley's Boat Shop, whatever this thing

is called. Selling flowers, boat and buckle. And so he's like, wow, guess what? I got a gift for Sienna. Cause my friend makes sharks. Well, he doesn't make sharks, but he finds sharks and he kills them. And then he steals her teeth.

And then he makes necklaces. Girls love that. Girls do not love that. No one wants a shark tooth necklace. Okay. You'll find a five-year-old to give that shit to you fucking nutcase. And then we see that not only does he think girls like this,

he gave one to Taylor. Yeah, this is, don't give, okay, the shark, the shark tooth thing is, the shark tooth thing is really like, that is such a bad, like, oh God, how did this guy get an entire show called relationship chef if he's handing out shark tooth necklaces? It's just mortifying.

But the fact that it's not, it's just mortifying. But the fact that it's a recycled gesture is really the worst part of all. Like, oh God, I'm mortified. And I'm also mortified that like Molly is not steering him in the right direction. Cause he's like, gosh, is that douchy? And she goes, no, why is that douchy? It's a gift.

Oh God. So we're the blanket with smallpox on them. Give me a break. Yeah, Relationship, the show where like 90% of the contestants evicted themselves. I mean, more people stay on Survivor. Yeah. The show.

Fucking Relationship. Oh gosh, I don't know how to act all of a sudden. I feel so helpless. I'm a little boy. She goes, well, it's weird when like the vibes change and you're like, oh god What do I do now kind of like me standing here in a bikini in front of you and haven't even seemed to notice Yes, I know. I'm cool. I swear. I'm gonna have fun. No matter what that's my mantra fun. No matter what We know that's why you're nowhere and she's like, yeah, I guess we're gonna have fun

Let's go to JT's apartment He's lighting lighting candles and looks like he's getting something romantic to happen and I'm like, oh my god Please tell me he's not already bringing his Instagram lover on the television. But no, it's Vanita because she's a sucker. Vanita, Jesus Christ, you put Charles out to pastor for this, shame on you. Get some self-respect. Pete Slauson Well, you know, the bond between Vanita and I is a beautiful thing. And like, timing can be a mean motherfucker, I guess, especially if you never really had any intention to date her in the first place. So she, he's basically like, but we do have this great friendship. And now we know there's a line we won't cross. And that's kind of how it works. see your plugs, okay. So she comes in and she's like, well, JT is my best friend. So, you know, his, I have a girlfriend.

Okay, I guess I'll support it. But it also means being flirty and cutesy with you is done. Hi, JT, here's a brand Z, you know, and a kiss. So he's like, well, I actually feel really good because Shep, Shep invited me to the Bahamas, you know, and we see a flashback to that. And he goes, I generally, you know, I generally like Madison and I liked her friendship and I want that friendship back and matters to me. But you know, like I think that she's gotten a version of the truth that's been skewed

and yeah, I want to work on that. No, she's not going back. It's not happening anytime soon. So she is excited that he's going to be going and he's like, me too. I mean, maybe I'll fly down the next day. I got some meetings, I think, you know, uh, you know, Airbnb stuff. I don't know. People maybe they'll take the Airbnb, sell the Airbnb. I don't know. Bunny's going to call about a couch soon. So huge meetings. Who are you fooling? You don't have any meetings. You're scared. I don't blame you.

Yeah. And also I think that like part of it is that production is holding them back and it's like, okay, you guys join the next day. They're going to be the big surprise. And we want everyone to get mad about you the night before. So, um, uh, so anyways, he's talking about the suits he's going to bring. And he talks about bringing about bringing his birthday suit and she's like, no, not an option. And then they talk about how all the sofas

in the apartment are bunny picked them out, which is real fun. And JT's just hoping like, you know, if I'm there with Madison, the group, I think it'd be a great chance for, you know, to have a really chill way of conversing with her and hopefully building a bridge back. I'm like, based on

both of you, I don't see any chill conversations happening. I think that ship has sailed many times over. Well, I hope he tries it though, because it'll be fun to watch Madison cut him down. You know, the first time I thought it was way too mean on Madison's part, but now he's done Vanita wrong. So I'd like to see a little chopping. So he's like, well, I mean, I think it'll be do a little Craig just maybe walks it back a little bit. And she's like, yeah, like maybe if he said, he said it out of context. No, maybe you could say lied. That's not gonna happen. You're on the wrong show. Venita, stop giving this man a chance. From this moment on, this is your fault,

Venita, because you are now bringing this to the table, okay? Boo. And Vanita says, no, you have to be the bigger person. You've got to be the bigger person, which unfortunately is a lifelong challenge for JT in many, many different ways. So Vanita is like, you know, your emotions do get the best of you, like they do for all of us.

And like he's already said, that's a problem for him, and he doesn't like it and walks away when you do that so don't give him the opportunity to keep on winning basically she's like stop trying to like get in his face it's not gonna work oh my god maybe i'll listen to you we're like yin and yang which one are you you're yin or you're yang am i yang are you yin which ones are those it's so wacky yang's like this And then yin's the piece, right? Okay. So Yang needs some brandzino. So there's the stove. So now we're at a restaurant and Austin is there not wearing his short sleeve Navy polka dotted shirt. And Rodrigo shows up and they say hi and everything.

And it's just like this. Rodrigo is like, he just heard a sound in the house at all times. He's always looking around like his eyes are just like wide open. Like he's always surprised when he's given a solo scene. Yeah. So yeah. He's like, so speaking of the Bahamas, you know, Shep was talking to me about, you know,

stuff with Sienna recently. I was like, are you being followed? Why aren't you looking around the restaurant? Yeah, he told me too. He literally looked like a sad fucking puppy dog. And he like looked like somebody had kicked his ass. How stupid he looked right there. And then-

He looked like a puppy dog that got run over by a skateboard. Do you know there's an epidemic of that right now in Charleston? Whoa. It's crazy. Rodrigo's like, that's how it seemed. Like when he called me, I like was out to lunch with Taylor and like, I could just hear it in a voice.

Oh my God, this person's coming to our table and they're holding a little piece of paper. Oh my God, oh my God. Yeah, it's the waiter. It's the menu. So we see this phone call where Taylor is hanging out with Rodrigo and he's like, oh, it's Shep calling. Should we hide?

And she's like, no, answer it. Just say I'm not here. And so he puts Shep on speakerphone for Taylor to hear everything. That's pretty low, right? I mean, I know they're on reality TV, but that's a shit friend move. Yeah, it is. I agree.

That's like a, and that's a classic move that happens on reality TV all the time, but that is a shit thing. And so Shep is saying, talking about Sienna and he's like, gosh, it's been, it's been sort of interesting. I mean, sort of dismaying. It's been a while since we've seen each other and there's just like, I feel like, you know, I feel sort of helpless honestly, and as accomplished as she is,

she's still pretty inexperienced at times, you know? And I understood the context of that, basically saying, you know, she has done a lot in her life, but she's still 26. She's still kind of immature, right? You know, and then Taylor, this sets Taylor off, because then she's like, I mean, how does he know? How could he diminish her accomplishments? I mean, this sets Taylor off, because then she's like, I mean, how does he know?

How could he diminish her accomplishments? I mean, just because she's, he's not doing anything with his life, so now he's gotta diminish what she's doing with her life. I mean, she's doing a lot. She's a beauty queen, she's doing things, she's like taking care of her grandma in the Bahamas, and how dare, Shep, Shep is the worst, I hate Shep.

It's like whoa, whoa. Yes, Taylor, you've sold a lot of sodas with alcohol in them, okay? No one is diminishing you, Taylor. I'll be your projector. I'll be your projector. Do not degrade her, do not degrade her. She's a very accomplished, smart individual.

Okay, relax, Taylor. Come on, let's not let your damage show too much. And Rodrigo's like, um, for me, it kind of felt like her taking her own feelings with Shep and then using Sienna as like a proxy for how she feels. And also, and goes, uh, obviously it doesn't take Freud to figure that one out. Okay. God, fucking idiot. That KB board supposed to be smart. Steven Freud, original doctor, wonderful.

So they're basically like, okay, great. So then we go over to Taylor's house, by the way, and Taylor is trying to figure out how to use WhatsApp because her mom has an Android. So that's a struggle for her and I get it. I get it, I have to do that with my friend too. But I, when I started using WhatsApp, I thought she was calling Sienna, didn't you?

Cause that's usually what you use to talk to people in other countries. And I was like, ooh, I was going there. But she didn't, it's just her poor, disappointed mom who's traveling all over. Well, I don't know, I always think her mom's like on African safari, but I think it's just how she dresses.

Every time we see her, she's in like a big straw hat and like, and a scarf. Yeah. She always has like a little scarf. She's like, okay, Taylor, I picked out a great scarf for our television phone call today. So they're talking and Taylor's talking about, Leslie asks like, so what's your strategy for coming,

for this coming week in the Bahamas? And she goes, Taylor's saying she's gonna keep her distance from Shep and everything, and he seems really insecure in his relationship, et cetera. And- Oh really? Is that why you're still talking about Shep with your mother?

Get over it. I'm like, my God, you brought a new person on TV and you're still like this over Shep. She's like, yeah, well, Shepp's real insecure. Then Shepp doesn't know nothing about relationships. And like, he's insecure in his life. And like, I don't know, he broke my heart and he's not the greatest boyfriend to me.

And you know, that's why I didn't want to go, but I do want to hang out with the girls. But there's been a lot of girl drama, but it's all because of Shepp and Shepp's mean. And her mom's just like, oh, honey, God. So Gaston's not really doing it for you. Shocker. Shocker. Yeah. And then what we see, um, so the, on the heels of her saying there's girl drama, we see Taylor, you know, going after Sally and everything. But then we come back to the

present and then Taylor says, but we actually had like a really fun girls night and there was really good energy. And like, I think I'm really excited to hang out with them. And we see flashbacks. So the night before all the girls got together, they had a fun time. Taylor and Sally like buried the hatchet. Everything was good. Taylor got drunk. She was dancing up on a wall. And I kind of felt like this was sort of shitty at the producers because, um, Taylor, she has personality challenged and it looked like she actually had a scene where her personality kind of like flowered a bit and was having fun and was being silly. And they just relegated it to like a quick clip.

And in fact, the truth is we watch all these scenes of the guys together and we know this is a show about the guys, but I think we were owed a scene of the girls all being together, so I think this was shitty. I think we should have seen the scene. I agree, because they've replayed the same thing of the guys over and over. Like, Austin is hurt because Craig doesn't wanna hang out. I mean, it's been an entire season of that.

Show the girls, like show them making out. I'm not making out, making up. Show them making out. Show them making up. I mean, they fired. They had that big girl power season and then all those girls have since been fired or quit. Most of them fired, let's face it.

And these guys discard these women and go through them and get new cast members. And now they're just like, okay, let's just get fodder. You know what I mean? Let's just get dumb girls to like throw out or plain girl. I shouldn't say dumb girls, but like plain girls, just get them out there, throw them out there for me, chum for the guys,

let the sharks get them, and then we'll just recast next year, we'll get new girls for these guys. And I don't like that, they're not props, give them a fucking scene. I wanna see them team up and take the guys down again. That was the most- Yeah, I think it was like a lost opportunity

to just sort of develop them as just characters on the show too. Like, I mean, how many times do we have to see Austin go to lunch and order Waffle Tots somewhere and spit them all out on top of his beers? So Taylor, her personality has now receded back into her armadillo shell and she's like, I just feel like I'm in an okay position with these women

and I just wanna continue on and I've got the ball rolling and I wanna keep the ball rolling and it's not about Sh ball rolling. And it's, it's not about Shep. But by the way, can I tell you something else about Shep? He totally denigrated his own girlfriend. I mean, have some respect for the girl. She is accomplished. Okay, honey. Okay.

So I put on the scarf to not talk about Shep anymore. Okay. This is my not talking about Shep scarf. I don't know if you could tell. So can we talk about something else? I think it would be a good idea to concentrate on relationship with your girlfriends. The dogs are farting. The dogs are farting. It's like the second she lets her mom say anything and give advice, she just doesn't listen and starts giggling about dogs farting.

And that's why you're nowhere ma'am. That's why you're nowhere. Hang up on your daughter. You know, I think at some point mothers just need to normalize saying, if you're not going to listen to me, then I don't have to sit here and listen to your bullshit and just hang up because Taylor doesn't even listen. Get rid of her. So Craig is now packing for the trip and he's smelling his underwear to make sure they're clean because they're not, they're most likely are not.

The thing is this, if you have to smell your underwear because you don't know which underwear is clean or not, that's a problem. Like you should have an area that's designated for clean underwear, like your drawer. And then Vanita is packing with Charles. So here Charles is like, I was just waiting for my own scene.

I don't have to be in a montage with other less interesting dogs. I get to be part of the varsity level packing with my person scene. And Vanita's like, is this dress good? No. Is this one good? Look like a blood clot. Is this one good?

Look like a penny fart. Is this one good? Die. All right, Charles. Oh Jesus, thanks a lot. You're really getting a big head. Yeah, seriously. So Madison calls Vanita

and asks what she's bringing to the trip and they're talking about dresses and Ronnie, you must've been very happy to hear this, that Leva is not coming on the group trip this year because she's going to be staying home with Lidl. No, I just don't understand why they keep Leva. Leva makes no effort. Leva's like, no, I have a kid, so. I don't think Leva makes no effort. Leva's like, um, no, I have a kid.

So I don't think Leva even, yeah, I don't think Leva really even wants to be on this show anymore. So Vanita is so, but she says that Ryan's coming and Taylor's coming and JT's coming. So Ryan came on the trip. Is it me? Did we not see Ryan at all? This poor guy, he really, he really is relegated to the shadows, just where he quivers.

He's like a little quivering. You know when people, when they rescue like little baby animals out of the woods, you know, like there's something happened, the mama died, they saved the little baby squirrel and it's like trembling in the person's hand. That's what Ryan reminds me of. He's just like trembling in the corner in Bahamas.

He's like being fed with a, he's being fed with a bottle while they try and fit a new wig on. So cute. He might not be there though, because I think a bunch of people are coming the next day. Oh, okay, like Whitney, et cetera. Yeah, but who knows? Yeah, I think they just keep cutting him out.

And he's probably got a speech in every one where he's like, everybody, here's my speech. And they just cut it. They're like, whatever. So, Vanita tells Madison to have her best behavior. And- Well, basically this is all just travel, travel, travel, travel.

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Of course, thanks, Craig, thanks for your knowledge. But finally, after like five minutes, she picks up and she's like, oh, hi, what's up? Hey, course, I'm here, it's amazing, everybody, she picked up, I'm here. Sienna, I'm here. Good little boy. I've got flowers. I've got a ring.

I can't wait for disease. Like, maybe I'll stop by your hotel later. She seems really unrushed. Well, in a long distance relationship, your person should pick your love. The lover should pick the person up at the airport. I mean, that's kind of what you should do. I mean, I'm Craig and even I know that.

I mean, and he's right too. So the fact that she's not only not picking him up at the airport, but also is like, oh, I guess I'll see you later. Like at some point. It's just, oh, it's so cringy. So then the chef is like, oh, I think that went well. I think it went well. I think everything's good. It's just, it's so cringy. So then the chef is like, oh, I think that went well.

I think it went well. I think everything's good. I think she loves me back. She's in love. Wait till she sees my shark tooth necklace that I got her. Oh, that'll seal the deal. So, you know, I think we're gonna be ripping into Taylor a little bit,

cause she's such a dodo bird later in this episode, but he's obviously bringing the shark tooth necklace to Trigger Taylor too. So they both deserve each other. I just wanted to get that out before I forgot. So now they go to, you know, there's a band playing, they get to the hotel like, this is amazing. And now the boys, the boys are in one suite, the girls are in another suite. So the boys go to their suite and Shep's like, wow, we've got a giant suite for the guys. This is amazing. We have a private pool.

We've got snorkeling. We're going to go out on a boat, which kind of lends itself to snorkeling. Does it not? Gosh. So then his phone dings and he says that Sienna is going to be coming over. And he's like, I wrote down a bunch of stuff I wanted to say, huh. And he like starts pulling out like a piece of paper,

which is like, oh gosh, no, this is not going to win her back. Whatever you're, whatever you planned out. And Craig is like, that's what always happens. You know what? You need to just like talk from the heart. I can write a K-1 for you if he wants to help you talk from the heart. Hey, you know what you should for you if you want to help you talk from the heart. Hey, you know what you should do right now?

Practice, just say right now whatever's in your heart. Well, poor people should be turned into Soylent Green because they're not really producing anything. Okay, well, maybe don't do that. Oh, of course not. So, oh, so you got her necklace? Let me see the necklace. I really got her nice necklace.

It's so nice. The shark was so glamorous. But like, I don't know, I don't give it to her before the conversation, right? And well, you don't wanna have it in the hand and be like, well, dude, what am I supposed to do with this? Oh, gosh.

Well, can the next guy, new day Venmo me, huh, it'll be from him, huh, huh, I'm so nervous, huh. So Austin's like, dude, okay, you don't wanna dump on anybody or kick them when they're down, like, but that's not a good move. But I don't think that Shep had it in him to let another human control his emotions as much as this, but like, wow, Sienna is really manipulating him. She's not manipulating him.

He's trying to manipulate her. He's trying to take someone who clearly doesn't like them and bend to his will so he could have this imaginary hot girlfriend that he can brag about who doesn't even live in town so he can be cheating all the time on her and repair his reputation. He's trying to use her.

She's not manipulating him. She barely can stand him and it's obvious. She apparently thinks that they're just friends and Shep's trying to make this into a storyline and she's not gonna let it happen. So the manipulator is the one that's failing here and that Shep. Sorry. Yeah. I think she is like a little too shy or something to actually say, yeah, I'm not into this. So they are all they all get to their suites. They're all looking around. They're all like, Oh my God, presidential suite. And it's all really nice.

They're at Bahamar, which I feel like there was some other Bravo show that went to Bahamar. Cause I don't know. It was, isn't there one in Dubai? I feel like we've heard Bahamar in Dubai. I feel like I'm always saying Bahamar. So everyone's splitting up and choosing beds. It's the classic vacation time,

vacation montage and everything. And now Craig starts to lose his mind because there's- No, it's only in the Bahamas. I looked it up. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I just gave bad information, guys. I don't want people trying to book Bahama or in Dubai. What was a place that Caroline was screaming at her husband

about when she's like, I'm on the phone with Berrari. It's Berrari, right? Berrari. Berrari. The truth israri. Right. Berrari. Berrari. The truth is they've actually gone to the Bahamas a lot on Bravo. And so like if I typed in Bahamar Bravo TV

and a lot of results came up. So I think it's just like one of the classic destinations. But anyway, so essentially there are only three bedrooms, but there are four guys, which means that, you know, for the, on the girls end, not a problem. I think Molly and Sally decide to share a bed doesn't even matter. It's so inconsequential. We can't even remember. But Craig is like, I don't want to share.

I mean, this is crazy. Three rooms for guys. I'm 36 years old. No one in their 30s should have to share a room. Now I agree. I would, I would be, I would be annoyed if I had to share a room, but I don't think I would have it. I would not have a tantrum cause I'm with my friends and I'd be like, well, this kind of sucks, but okay, well I guess it is what it is. Yeah, no. Craig's doing his winter house like I don't clean. I'm too rich to clean and throwing his money around at people.

He's you know, we knew that Craig was going to show himself at least once this season. And here he is. He can't fake it for that long. So he's walking around going, I don't have to share a room. What are we poor? We're not fucking poor people. Um, but, you know, but, but Craig also, it's like he's acting like he doesn't want to be like subjected to having to sleep in the same room as someone who's awful. No, Craig, you're the one that no one wants to share with. Like you are the grenade that someone's going to have to jump on in this vacation.

Like we all know his household that we see on the show, there is someone that comes in and cleans this household for him. Okay. Like we have seen years of Craig's living situation and the total mess and depravity and shit everywhere. And he's gonna act like he is the one that like can't be subjected to a terrible roommate. No, you are the grenade here in this situation, sir. But also if you're that snotty about it, just get your own room. When I can, when I go on group

vacations and there's like a bunch of shared rooms, I just get my own room if I can afford it, wherever we are. But sometimes I can't, but sometimes I do. I don't make a big deal out of it. I just get it. Like I don't call everybody else poor and make a big fucking deal out. This guy's such a loser. This guy's such an asshole. I love seeing this side come out. You cannot hide that shit forever. And Austin's like, he's like, dude, like the four of us in this thing, it's gonna be sick. Cause he's like, it'll be fun.

It'll be like slumber party, right? And Craig's like, we booked our own rooms. We're not fucking poor. He's like, relax, Craig. Craig, relax, relax. I'm not sharing a room, bro. He's like, I'm not sharing a room, bro. He's like, I'm not doing this. And he goes into a room and slams a door.

And what's also annoying about this is that now Craig is gonna get his way. So like he is going to get a solo room because he's having a tantrum. And it's just like people like that, you just should never even go on vacation with. Yeah, or be friends with because they're just fucking assholes.

You can hide it for so long, but then you can't. So they're all mortified by Greg, you know, and Austin's like, he's a tyrant. He's a tyrant. These are the hiring guys. And so they're like, chill, you know, what are you gonna do? So meanwhile, Shep is pacing around freaking out about this girl coming. And everyone goes down to the pool. And Venita is coming tomorrow. And everyone goes down to the pool and Vanita's coming tomorrow and probably JT is coming tomorrow too, as we know.

We are, I don't know that they are. And Whitney. And Whitney, yeah. So, Roderick goes like, oh God, we probably are gonna have to share. Craig's gonna freak out. So then Shep's like, okay everybody, well, Sienna did a lot of work to help us be here.

And Taylor goes, Santa. Like Taylor's decided that she's gonna show up and have a scene. Taylor, who's always running because people are trying to make scenes is now gonna make a scene over her ex-boyfriend. Oh, basically Santa, because we never see her, beta. So then Taylor goes, I have a question chef.

How long have you guys been exclusive? Well, I know on my side, it's been three months. I don't think that if I can stalk her, I don't think that's how exclusivity works. I guess it does. I guess it can work that way, but they're like, what about on her end? Baby Garcia.

Baby Garcia. Well, I went into a pub and she was really nice to me. So now we're married. My little baby Gorshtyr. Well, Shep told me he was exclusive. He just hadn't told her yet, which is healthy. Well, maybe this is the talk, you know? Well, I don't remember him ever sitting me down

and just saying, hey, I just want you to know that like I love you and I care about you and I see a future with you. So like, that's a huge moment. Well, I'm sorry it didn't happen with you, Taylor. And that should have been the moment that you should have left this man to be honest. Yeah, Taylor, you're just making yourself look dumber that you stayed that long. Okay. And also, you know, Taylor is like, well, he clubbed me on the head and dragged me into a cave and eventually I got a chicken nugget.

So it was love. Yeah. But then she also says, oh, well, he did tell me he loved me within the first two weeks of us talking and I was like very drunk. He was like, I love you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Taylor. I mean, how many more red flags did you need?

Really? Taylor is the type to make a quilt out of a red flag I mean, how many more red flags did you need? Really? Taylor is the type to make a quilt out of a red flag and save it for her baby, you know? She's like, these are all the red flags your father gave me. Let's always remember him. It's like, cuddle you by this fire. So yeah, she's still clearly bitter. And Sally's like, but wait, she didn't talk to you?

She's like, quote, communication has been decreased significantly. Ah. Well, you deserve better than that. I mean, have you thought about going to the parking lot of a steakhouse and trying to get a blowjob for someone? Cause that could be where love can find you.

You just need to be more honest with her to explain your situation. He's like, oh, I'm honest. And Sally goes, yeah, everyone deserves communication. And he's like, I know where I stand. I just don't know where she stands. In my mind, we're married with children. Now, I don't know, is she on board with that?

Who knows? Who cares? Mom thinks it's true, so the money's gonna keep coming. I highly doubt that it's miscommunication on her end. I think that you have something really good in front of you and you're kind of fucking it up right now. Yeah, but she's drinking him along now like a poor person. She's not stringing him along.

What part of her not answering the calls or the messages says that she is drinking him along? She's just probably in a situation where they're like, producers reached out to her and said, hey, we're gonna do this vacation down here and we want you to be part of it. And she's like, well, it would be cool to be on this TV show. So I'll do this.

But I don't know, that's not enough to be a string along for me. No, and he said himself that it's only in his head that they're committed, that she's not committed to him. So to her, it's some celebrity she hooked up with on Raya that she sees occasionally. And to him, they're married celebrity she hooked up with on Raya that she sees occasionally, and to him, they're married in his head, and now he's bringing all of his family, quote unquote,

and his friends to meet her and her family, and she's like, what the fuck is going on? This is weird. Yeah. And then Craig's basically telling Taylor, you guys have some unresolved stuff. Oh wow, congratulations, Craig, for picking up on that. So. I love how Craig turns into Dr. Phil in this episode. You guys have some unresolved stuff. Oh wow, congratulations Craig for picking up on that. So-

I love how Craig turns into Dr. Phil in this episode. Let me just say, I think there's some unresolved stuff here. Meanwhile, Taylor's holding a wine bottle above her head ready to crash it down on set. Wow, good eye, Craig. Unresolved stuff, no, I'm happy for you and I want that for you and I want that for me too. Flashback to a tuba party where Shep is saying that Gaston isn't good,

isn't good looking and he just looks mid. You don't even know Gaston. Why are we talking about Gaston? Okay. If you're not going to bring this man on TV and you won't let anybody talk about him, then why are you bringing him up? That's not fair. So Shep is like, you know, he cast on should come around. He chooses not to. Well, would you come around if your name was being absolutely smashed? I'm like, you're still here. So, I mean, the Shep, Shep kind of through you dragged you through the mud.

Gosh, nobody could deter me from coming around. Nobody. I'll always come around. I'm like Carly Simon and I'm coming around again. I'm like your mama who's so big that she doesn't only come around the house, she comes around the house. I never really got that joke. Me neither, who cares, it's literature, shut up.

Well, I'm very happy in my relationship. And he's like, okay, okay, I just wish you had a better reputation. That's all gorge and that's the end of it. And Sally's like, I'm just keeping my mouth shut. I'm like, I'm not gonna be in the middle of this. So well, cheers to the girls that are in our lives. Cool, always be in our lives

because we have really great relationships and they have not made any indications that they're deeply unhappy with us. Cheers. So now Shep's phone chimes and the girls get in the pool and he's like, oh my God, she's coming. She's coming at 6.45. She'll say hello and then we're gonna meet him at dinner

and oh my God, you guys, you need to help me. And Craig's like, we can be wingmen. We know what we're doing. But you're just eating wings, Craig. Isn't that what you said? Just remember. Literally wing man. I think you should just remember that you're fun first

and not overthink it. That's the best case. Yes, Shep, fun first. Cut to Shep sitting in a chair with his like ankle going 60 miles per hour. Very fun, a very fun person. So, okay. So then in the pool, Madison's telling Taylor,

wow, you said a lot today. You put a nickel in here and watched you shake. She's like, I'm genuinely just curious at this point. I'm just like actually curious about a lot. Hmm. You know what? Hey, Shep, you need to be focused on Sienna, not your ex.

I'm like, oh gosh, I mean, you know, I'm really excited to see Sienna. I just want shelter from the storm. Oh. So now they're gonna go to their room and what they're gonna do is create the most fun environment ever so that when Sienna comes in,

she'll fall right back in love with him. Which by the way, the fact that you're having to do this whole sort of teen comedy kind of moment here shows that this relationship is not functioning. You shouldn't have to be doing this. She said on camera she only dated you because her grandma likes your show, okay? So if you can't even entice her with a full camera crew,

you're screwed, man. You're screwed, just give it up. Yeah, so Austin is like. Well, I just think that Shep is being like very dejected. If he doesn't hear a lot, he'll be very dejected. If he doesn't hear like, I want to be with you, you know, the whole thing with him in Sienna is like so weird to me. Like for someone who's as smart as he is, like for someone who can triangulate the way he can,

like he could be like a bit thick to what somebody's trying to tell him. Like it should be pretty fucking cut and dry at this point in time. Yeah. to what somebody's trying to tell them. Like, it should be pretty fucking cut and dry at this point in time. Yeah, okay. So then we go to, I don't know, there's a lot of little stuff here. People on vacation doing their stuff, talking about hair. Well, Shep is getting ready. Shep is, they're primping Shep,

because Shep is now starting to like spiral. He's like, gosh, I wear a hat, I don't wear a hat. They're like, okay, don't wear a hat. Put some product in your hair. He's like, gosh, but I've got product in my hair. But I want it to look messy. But I want it to look messy with product. Oh gosh. Huh. Can someone put on Vietnam War? I just need to calm down. Oh god, and his nice outfit for Sienna is like a sweaty golf shirt. But like intentionally. Finger combed hair.

But he's like, but I want to look bad. It's that way she could dress me up Jeez Okay, so then we cut to horror music. It's like And we see Sienna walking down the hallway with a bell a bellhop cart full of stuff and she's just smiling like everything's just fine Walking very slowly, you know, I guess she's amused by the camera crew following her or whatever. But there's horror music, it's like, don't don't, don't don't.

She's just smiling, looking lovely, and then she comes in and it's like, oh, oh, oh, oh. This poor girl has, I mean, I'm mortified for her to watch this back, to see the amount of consternation and drama happening behind that door in anticipation of her arriving. It's so silly. Gifts. And the audience is so easy, so easily manipulated. I have to say it,

like reading the comments and everybody like, Oh my God, this girl's just using chef for what she's not using chef. What has she gotten out of it? Shep's using her. Yeah, give me a break. Shep's trying to use her. I'm not buying that bullshit. This girl hasn't done anything wrong. So then she comes in and she kind of hugs Shep,

which is like, ouch. She doesn't kiss him or whatever. And she's just looking kind of uncomfortable because he's clearly really nervous. And she's like, what's going on? You know? Because he's acting like his long lost wife just came in and she's like, everyone's so happy. We're just so happy to have you.

Are we guys? Are we? Yeah. Hey, Sienna, let's make some small talk. How many generations have you guys been here? She's like 12, he goes, oh really? That's awesome. I'm like, I feel like there's more to that story and it might not be as awesome as he's. He's like 12 because, oh really? That's awesome. I'm like, I feel like there's more to that story

and it might not be as awesome as, he's like, yeah, that's pretty awesome. I'm like, that might not be my response. But Craig is like, I've never felt someone's aura like this in my entire life. And we- Craig, this girl, this, okay, this girl looks like the biggest fart

in the world just came out. She's looking like, what is that smell? She's clearly freaked out by whatever is going on in here. And Craig's like, I can read Auras. Craig, you cannot read Auras. You don't even know that the woman you're with doesn't want to be with you. Come on. No, I meant that I read Rita Ora's biography. It was really good. You didn't do that either. I didn't, I don't even know who she is. He's like, I feel like I can sense people's energies right away. And I know any hope that I had that Sienna was genuine

with her feelings with Shep disappeared as soon as she walked in the room. She is genuine with her feelings with Shep disappeared as soon as she walked in the room. She is genuine with her feelings and her feelings are discussed. Yes. So are you joining us for dinner? She's like, yes, I would love to join my good friend Shep for dinner. My friend, my friend Shep. I think I still have a chance. So Craig is like, oh good. So then they get out of there basically. And now it's just Shep and Sienna. And he's like, gosh, oh God, by the way,

I just want you to know, I'm not dressing like this. I need your consultancy. She's like, okay. He's like, come on, come upstairs. Okay, help me pick some clothes. I've got this. And it's like some, a leopard on a white shirt with matching white shorts. And she's like,, a leopard on a white shirt with matching white shorts.

And she's like, did someone fart? He's like, okay, okay, I'll try this one. I'll try this one. What about this one? Silver leopard print on sequined short shorts. And she's like, no, I guess that kind of Tommy Bahama thing is the least defensive. And he's like, okay, well I'll change. And she goes, okay, yeah, I guess that kind of Tommy Bahama thing is the least offensive. And he's like, okay, well I'll change. And she goes, okay, yeah, I'll be downstairs. And he's like,

what? It's not like you've never watched me change. You've watched me change both figuratively and literally. And she goes, yeah, mostly figuratively. And she just leaves and closes the door. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's just, it's just so awkward. Yeah. And it's like, no, don't go. I want you to watch me change. It was so good.

It was so good. And not because it's watching Shep get his feelings hurt, because I don't believe that Shep has any feelings in this in the first place. It's because it's Shep clearly trying to manipulate and show that he's still got all this prowess by getting this girl who he doesn't even know. But all he knows is that she's a beauty queen and she's gonna make him, she's gonna give him his good guy storyline

for the next two years before he fucks with her. And she's not giving in. She's one of the first people we've seen on this show with enough strength to be like, fuck off. Like, I don't need your show in miss Bahamas, bitch. Yeah, exactly. Um, so that was it. That was a hilarious episode. It was so cringy. Everyone have a great weekend.

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