Watch What Crappens - #475 Southern Charm Sav: Egregious Allegoricals!

Episode Date: June 9, 2017

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blender. Hello Ben! Hi Ronnie. How are you, baby? I am so great. It's Friday. I'm ready to jump into this weekend. I think I'm supposed to be doing something this weekend. I don't remember what it is, but it'll be fun. I'm sure it will be. Yeah, I have not even planned. Last weekend was so, um, taxing on my brain that I figured this one I would just let happen. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Well, watching leftovers all over again by myself and sobbing, then I'll do that. Hmm. I think I'm going to this weekend on my play some video games. I got this new game called, well, the game is not new, but it's new to me. The game came out in five years ago.

It's called Uncharted 3 Drake's Deception. It's so fun. It feels like you're playing a movie. Drake's deception. Yeah. And by the way, and it's weird because this Drake character is like hot. I'm like, I don't like being attracted to a video game character. They're making those so real now. Yeah, and Drake is hot. And then he has a mentor. I don't know, I don't remember the mentor's name. He's older, but there's a whole big flashback sequence that's a whole board. And the mentor when he's younger is like crazy hot.

I'm like, this is so wrong. This is a video game. I should not be attracted to my video game characters. Yeah, well, at least it's not like Homer Simpson or something like those stupid, you know, porn gifts, people are all grossly sending around. I really don't need to see Fred Flintstone have sex with Barney, okay? I don't know who's into that kind of crazy stuff, but please don't post it on the internet, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not nice. We're all on the internet. Let's only post nice things just kidding And if you're gonna do some sort of cartoon gay porn like make it interesting haven't like George Jetson and Fred Flintstone like a like from two different times, you know, sharing experiences making love Yeah guys, it's all about love making okay, so speaking of here with Speaking of sock dreams.

Yeah, let's talk about Southern term Savannah. Wow, so last week was the dinner party from hell, you know, poor person style, like Savannah style. Yeah. And it continued into this week. And then it just, it got a grocer and grocer, but I have to say in a more and more fun way. I don't know why I really like it. Yeah. I feel like the show is finally clicking. I actually really do. I was enjoying it. I

actually enjoyed this episode more than Classic Southern charm this week. Yeah. Classic Southern charm had a slower week. Yeah. It was very, very slow. No one's really popping off on Classic Southern charm had a slower week. Yeah, it was very very slow No one's really popping off on classic Southern charm classic Southern charm needs to get Fall off the horse unfortunately, but this one they're trying to become it's they're they're getting angry Or at angry or at each other and their personalities are coming yet. I'm starting to make more distinct I'm starting to develop more distinct opinions about certain people first., it's like, Louis, he's getting really annoying. He's actually becoming terrible.

Really? I love Louis. I'm in love with it. I, cause I thought in the beginning season, I was like, Oh, Louis seems so nice. But now he's just like very, he just keeps saying obnoxious things. I like that in a man. Go figure. Well, he gets his come up and hashtag hot old chicken salad. So, um, yeah. So we

start off at that dinner party and, um, and Daniel is still taking Nelson to task for saying you did the itish and word. And, and once again, Lyle is saying, Nelson, that's almost racist. Hello, almost. So Daniel's like, that's a derogatory term and then they show Nelson's face and he's going, you're just making this like, snitty little face. WTF. WTF. Also, I have to point out that I didn't notice this last week. We're happy because yeah, but here we are talking about this past of a BS and says it in quotation marks. You're the one saying it happy.

So yeah. WTAF, who's friends of Trump? That's what that stands for, right? How Trump friends? So Nelson is doing that thing that sometimes some art people do where when they're in trouble they just start using really big words to transfer everybody off. In this case one big word over and over again.

But he doesn't do it very well. So he's like, well, but I think it's crazy and a great is your quote me, my own home. And they're like, this is not your home. And are you not allowed to quote people when they're in their house? Like when you enter someone's house, it's a no quote zone. Like, ah, now some so racist,

but you didn't under his own roof again. Damn it. It's all right. Ronny said that he was going to murder someone, but I can't say who, because it was in his house. It's like, it'll never be allowed into a court of law.

That is a great just. That is a great. That is a gracious. And it goes, what you allegedly say is racist. That particular word I didn't even know was anything bad. And your grandma said it all the time. You want to criticize her? A grigis grandma. And she said at the retirement home, which is not officially her house. I can't call her in her house.

Damn. I love that he throws like your grandma's a racist in there before letting them move on. You see, he's not that dumb. This guy. No, happy then. Suddenly pretends to start. Oh, and by the way, I'm sorry to interrupt a follow up to what last week we were talking about has one email that's in and suggest that maybe he has asked burgers. And then several behavior lists were like, no, he does not have assburgers. So he's just an assburger. Yeah, he's just an ass. Yeah. So he's, oh, I'm sorry. So he starts saying happy now they're talking about racism right. So happy starts pretending to cry, which is just shut up happy shut up. Yeah, she starts crying. And Nelson's trying to try to excuse himself by saying things like,

you know, sometimes someone can say things in a metaphorical sense, but it won't offend you. Like, you know, like sometimes if you say the N-word is actually a really good thing, you know, it's like a happy thing. It's like I used to say it's having a happy meal at McDonald's. I used to get an ant, then like Nelson, please stop.

Don't substitute the N-word for a happy meal. Well, if I ever say that it's the way you say it I mean sometimes people can say things in a metaphorical allegorical sense metaphorical allegorical Yeah, I'm just I'm just I'm just metaphorical allegorical I'm so happy. And so actually that really showy thing right where someone where like she's like she's crying.

I'm going to stand up and go over and give her a kiss and hug, which is actually really nice. But it's like something like showy at the same time. Yeah, and she goes over there and stands and kisses her and she's like, I love you, you need to understand, I love you, shut up. All of you shut up, but in the most amazing way, it's so good. So then Ashley tells us, you know, I love nail sand, but shut up sometimes, she's shut up.

A lot of the South, they still have this plantation mentality of the haves and have nots. I'm like, guess who else has that? The world. Like how are you going into haves and have nots? This is about blatant racism and bad words. Which is like, you know, some people look down on marshals. It's like, that's not what we're talking about, Ashley.

And then, as him, as him speaks, someone told me, you've been pronouncing his name, by the way. I don't remember, but someone was like, this is how you pronounce it. And then I lost the tweet. And now I don't know. So we're going to miss, we're going to miss, we're going to miss, we're going to miss the name by accident. I think it's as him.

And he goes, now, wait a minute. You've offended my fiance. And the the things you say they don't make sense And they're like a great. Yes metaphorical Like that does not make sense Just a great. Yes Well, I'm gonna say a Zaman you say as him this way we're covered We're gonna head your bets and he's like for God's sake you never stop talking I'm ready to And he's like, for God's sake, you never stop talking. Like, right, Joe, for God's sake.

Because you're talking about racism in the allegorical sense, just stop talking right now. Yeah, he's getting so mad. He's like, fuck this guy. Fuck him in the ass. Get him out of here. And he's already got to listen to happy because you know, happy is just all dramatic.

And so now happy is finally having her monologue. She's like, you don't live this. I love him and you don't understand. And Nelson goes, this isn't about you. But I haven't had my dinner yet. And then the gay who now I like, Brendan the gay, I've been not like him at first, but now I love him because he's just calling everybody out. And he goes, um, what is it that you go through? He's like, is this a, is this the Jewish inward again? Cause I'm confused. And she goes, people like him judging me and my relationship with a different kind and color and skin. I see the person I love, even though I, you know I even though everybody talks about his skin. Happy. No one has fucking talked about your husband's skin except you.

Every time you open your fucking mouth, you're talking about your boyfriend's skin and you're on your mom's ass trying to make her look like a racist on TV trying to do anything you can to get an award for dating a fucking guy who's not white get over Yeah, so then there's then Ozom start saying or a Zom start saying I think you know sometimes we go that we go to the airport and we get put in different security lines It happens all the time and then no she goes that's a great It's like please stop saying that word Nelson Please That's a great. It's like, please stop saying that word Nelson. Please stop saying you can say like that's rude

It's offensive. Well like racial profiling is terrible, but please stop saying Engry just and also people get separated in lines all the time at the airport I saw a 74 year old lady try to go through the thing and he said are you 75 and she said yes and he looked at her Ideas and said no, you're not your 74 go over there. They separate people based on a lot of different things And I'm not saying Rayson doesn't exist. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But these two are taking something. They're taking a racist word Used against black people and the Jewish or in the Yiddish dictionary or whatever and Everybody's now going to use it for their own thing. Everybody

makes it about themselves. And I don't think that they're, I don't think they're totally without America's. They are an interracial couple. And he is not, he is not white. And he probably has had to deal with like the brunt of that in happy family, et cetera. So I don't think it's totally off base. But I do agree that there was some co-opting of the moment. I understand his frustrations with being like racially profiled at the airports. My frustration is mainly just that Nelson can't stop saying egregious or the British N word. He's got a standard vocabulary. The conversation is about Nelson using a bad word for the N word, and everybody's making it about their own thing like

It's a lot of has the loud has the best sense he goes Leave can we do we go with this? I want to leave this party right now, please Well Ashley of course is like well, I totally understand using a random topic to cry about your own issues So I love you happy. Okay, I know what it's like to be judged too. Okay. I'm just gonna set the airport. Yeah. People judged me because of my skateboard all the time. You know, in the south, people just think that skateboard and cars are, you know, two totally separate things. And it's not

air. It is not air happy. things and it's not fair. It is not fair happy. So then everyone leaves and Catherine goes and speaks to Nelson outside to be like, you know, like listen, like at the either smooth things over try to talk some sense to him and he's like, does this make me racist? I love him. I like when Lyle was on his way out and he goes, well, he goes, well, Nelson, and Nelson goes, haven't you said enough? And he said, well, I mean, I mean, professor. That's a gracious. And he leaves.

He says a gracious guy. So he got a different chase and he says the hell to have no thing. And she goes, now, you know, uh, stupid captains like staring off at a space half the time. She's like, all I'm trying to say is, I forgot actually. What was I trying to say? He's like, nah, I'm not righteous.

Now that is like saying, if I say it, that she's like, please just stop talking. He's like, people is jealous. You know, people do not like when other people have more money than them. They are jealous of the rich white man. She's like, Oh my God, please stop talking. Here he goes. Everybody's always going to hate them. They're apparently wealthy. Nelson, they're just going to hate the assholes, the racists assholes, or at least the assholes

you say racist things. That's usually what it's going to be. So then, but meanwhile, Louis and Lyle are with Daniel and Daniel is talking about how, you know, annoyed, really offended him and Louis is like, why are you like being the martyr all the time? Which is really like such a condescending thing. This guy said, said the N word in Yiddish and Daniel's like, that rub me the wrong way. Leave it. That's not what Daniel said. Daniel was like, you guys don't understand. Do you understand what the debtors club is? Well, they're outside and blah, blah, blah. No, no, no, no, no, but he said that after he said the debtors club after the martyr

thing, you know, but you don't know it right. He said, uh, you don't understand racism. You don't understand what it's like. Right. So okay. So even if he said that, it still is like the classic, it's like the, it's honestly it's like the classic like white guy in response. You're such a victim. I mean, it really is. So when he says, well, do you like being the martyr all the time? It's just like massive irls. Okay. So you're not listening to what he's saying. You're instead just going to impune him for being a martyr, which he really wasn't being a martyr.

He's just like being like, you're not hearing it, you know? So I think being one of the only Jewish people in town, obviously, is a huge thing and he's explained it. And I'm sure they've heard it a million times. My thing is like, again, it's co-opted. Everybody starts co-optting it for their own thing, and he changes it to his grandparents, and I think Louis is just sick of hearing it. Well, I don't think that, I don't think Daniel co-opted. It was his issue that he brought

up. It was his own issue, and he was like, you said that, and it actually really rubbed me the wrong. I thought it was racist. I can't say those things. That was what he was saying, and then everyone's like, oh, well, it's like, no, it's like, it's fucked up to say that, you know, when you're an outsider, like, you don't really know what it's like to be an outsider. And when you are, it's like, you have to deal with this shit. And it's like, not cool. It's like, oh, you're such a martyr. That's how it read to me. And like, they maybe they have heard it before, but they maybe they haven't been listening, you know?

Well, he starts talking about the debtors club. Some club, his grandpa or father couldn't get into. And Leo's like, oh, yeah, you're a real outsider. You're lame. And Louis, like, get over yourself, dude, you're such a pussy. Own it, baby. And that was, yeah, but knowing your club won't let me in.

And this is so bad, because you don't know the truth of any of this. So it's like, you don't know how, I don't know how ignorant I'm being right now, but when Louis said this, it was funny because it goes. Daniel says, you know, he's always saying that he can't get into a club because he's Jewish, but there's boards and he runs people the wrong way. You know, I count of his menoras and dreadles and such. It's not because he's Jewish. It's just that he's all, you know, like, he's got that big. like he doesn't know how to count of his menorice and tradeels and such. It's not because he's Jewish. It's just that he's all, you know, like, he's got that big nose, he loves bigels, you know, it just rubs people the wrong way.

That's, to me, that's what that was code for a little bit. Well, for me, it was code for he's a hippie. He refused us to take a bath, shave, or control his mouth. And he, like, we've seen that, but that's what he's saying. He's saying hippie. He refuses to take a bath shave or control his mouth and he like Well, it could be that we've seen that but that's what he's saying. He's saying. Yeah, he thinks No, I know I do is but he's saying but it's really because he can't behave himself with a board, you know Right now I I actually I actually understand that and we don't know where the truth is on that So, you know, it's it's it is we it is weird, but you know at the same time It's it is it is weird, but you know at the same time It's it's a weird situation because it's like the deep South and not a lot of Jews around there and there are Clubs and there are country clubs that do not allow Jews in to this day and then there were a lot around where I grew up It's not an unheard of thing, you know, so let me just let me just make let me just say this because I'm all over the place

And this is basically what I'm trying to say what bugs me about all of this is what they started off with was very real You can't just walk around using language like that. It's not cool. It's ignorant and it's fucking racist You just can't do that and even if you don't think you're racist by thinking it's not a big deal You are fucking racist, okay? Yeah. So when everybody tries to co-op that and play their own victim card in any fight, but especially this one, it waters down the original point, you know? It's like it's not about all this other stuff and now Nelson is off making it about stuff, and now everybody else is making it about stuff, and that diminishes the original point,

which you cannot lay shit like that is racist. So that's what I'm saying. Like all this stuff with Daniel, I'm not denying that he has any trouble. What the fuck would I know what that's like? You know, I've never lived that life and I'm certainly not doubting that he's had issues or that happy. I come from a Lebanese and white lady family. I get that, you know, from Texas. I get it. I'm just saying it's not the same. Well, yes, I think in certain ways you're right, like it's annoying when people co-op to other people's issues. It's, you know, appropriate to perhaps buzzword, you know, that is annoying. But I think what we were seeing was we were seeing someone like Nelson who was not understanding

really why what he did was wrong. It was good that he said, oh, I won't do it again. But he didn't really understand what was truly wrong, which is why everyone was like, you don't understand. These things they hurt, they even us as, like even though my fiance is Muslim, he's not black. It's that mentality that hurts. Even though I'm Jewish and I'm not black, it's that mentality that hurts. Even though I'm Jewish, and I'm not black, it hurts because we're an outsider

and you don't really realize how harmful this language is. And if someone's not getting it, it's easy to try to be like, let me show you, let me show you through my personal experience, maybe I can illustrate it better for you. So it's like a little bit of a mix. I think on the one hand, yeah, there is some co-opting happening, which is I think some people are relishing and making it their

own thing, but it's not totally without reason. And the reason why I got annoyed with Louis' reaction to Daniel is because when you are an outsider, we know, I mean, look, we're two gay guys, we're outsiders in that way. Imagine if you're trying to explain gay marriage or something and say, oh, you're always such a martyr, you know, it's like, it's really such a condescending response. If you've heard it a million times, chances are you haven't been listening, not, you know, I know I said that earlier, I'm not trying to sound all like Oprah with it, but chances are if you got the message, it wouldn't have to be repeated over and over again, you know? So like, you know, the martyr thing is an easy way to just sort of deflect kind of emotional responsibility to say like,

you know, I don't have to listen to this because you're just being a martyr. So therefore, anything you say is almost invalidated. Now, he might be being a martyr. He might be a martyr, but who cares if he's being a martyr, right? You know, because if he might have something that's important to say. So that's where I sort of stand. I agree with you in certain ways, but I also, I don't necessarily, I guess I'm not rolling my eyes quite as much as you. Yeah, I was definitely. Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.

I was eating your French fry. You're always such a fucking martyr with your french fries. Yeah, I know it makes sense It makes sense So anyway, Lewis is well, yeah, I mean, I've already said mine, so I don't want to like go, you know, just like Go back and forth and so I get it. Yeah, I get it It's just in this situation. It starts off with happy and I, she's not even really crying and she keeps mentioning it over and over and it's almost like To me sometimes I feel like people roll around in their victimhood and it doesn't help. It's almost like it's proud There's there's like a certain pride in it, you know, like people explaining gay marriage all the time

Yeah, you don't have to explain it all the time But we all know the people who are just so over the top that every little thing is like, that is anti-K and that is this and that we all know those people who are just every day. It's something. Someone has offended them. They're a victim every fucking day with every fucking situation and it just gets on my nerves. So when I see someone like fake crying like happy and trying to turn someone else's situation into something about her just because she doesn't like Nelson, you know? Right.

But I think how I see her particular situation, not the whole world necessary. No, I know. But there are definitely people who just make themselves the victim. I mean, look at what Ashley did when Ashley and Hannah had a fight a few weeks ago about the stupid strip golf. There are definitely people who will turn things around and make them the victim and they're like, this is how it affects them.

But I would argue in this case when you're talking about use of the N word, even in Yiddish, it's understandable if that has more of an impact than if, you know, then like some random, you know, sort of minor, sort of the civil rights liberty, civil rights issue happen. And then like someone's like, oh, you know, like, oh my god, they shut down something. There's also people who are just rolling around in the like everybody's the pussy kind of mentality. Like we were reading tweets from this guy on the bachelor's rat, who's, you know, they went through his tweets. Oh, yeah, that got me shitty things. And that is a very typical mentality.

Someone who's like, they were out there waving the gay flag. How about the American flag? Like you hit it, you know, about that. Yeah. It's not about black lives matter. What about all lives matter? You know, it's like you're not getting it. You know, so that's something too that people roll around in.

We're like, everyone's just too pussy and I don't want to be that guy either. I mean, I feel like there's... Yeah, I would get more mad if someone, I get more mad at people co-opting that way. Like if someone was, if someone were to get up there and say, you know, black lives matter and then someone says,

well, we all lives matter. That's the sort of, that's the sort of like, well, what about me that I don't like? But I don't mind if someone's uses shows how racism in one area actually affects all of us. Not saying all that's a matter, but racism in general is bad. And here's an illustration of how it is with us too, and you just can't have that language. It's a fine line. And for me, it wasn't crossed, but perhaps for you, it was.

Well, I can guarantee you that we just talked more deeply about this than anybody who's on this show ever has or ever wants. Yes. I guarantee, especially probably, Katherine, who's like, oh, look, my fingernail. No matter what side you stand on, you've gotten some point there. You understand way better than any of these idiots.

Yes. So now we leave the racial tension for a moment. And it's 36 hours before Hurricane Matthew hits. And it's like time for evacuations, everyone's like leaving. Ashley is evacuating her house, and she's evacuating her fish who's named Michael Collins, which is kind of funny. She's got this big old fish tank. She puts in the back seat with like a seat belt around it. I'm like, how is this fish going to survive this? How much water is going to slosh out of that pole before they get to the inner state? There's no way Michael Collins is surviving

the hurricane. He must have just like put him in the military and let him, like, the rain will fill up and let him go off and zoom into the hurricane waters. And I love that they showed the dad packing up her skateboard. God forbid she doesn't have her skateboard in the town. They're fleeing because of a hurricane. And I also loved how she was evacuating to Augusta and everyone else was evacuating to Charlotte

and you know she'd be like I'm here y'all should sign for the evacuees Only Augusta understands me Catherine calls She calls Ashley and she's like last night with South car to fast and it might be who us to have a chat Outside the God to fast and it might be who us to have a chat outside the, you want to meet up real quick and now she's like, okay, okay husband and son, just go ahead and leave without me.

I have to shoot a scene. I'm like, you are the worst. Like you won't even drive with your husband. Yeah, exactly. But you know, Catherine was smart. She's like, I'm going to confront Ashley, but I'm going to do it right before Hurricane hits. That would be a hard out. Like once the siren starts, we have to end the scene. Exactly. Once a cow passes us, you know, flying in the air,

we're done. Second, second tornado took today or twister jet. Yeah. So Catherine, Catherine's also very smart. And she knows how to deal with drama queens. Mm-hmm. She really does. What's I liked in this scene? But first, what do we have? Wild and wild bobble. Well, first, yeah, the guys, the guys are on the road.

They're, they're driving up to Charlotte and because it, as it happens, Louie has a sock party at a bar planned anyway for this weekend or whatever. So it all works out well. They're all going to go up to the sock party and they're driving up the interstate and talking about who gives more blow pops is a catheter or Hannah. I'm like, please just let's stop. I like the South. I like that the South is just as sluddy as everywhere else, but they say things like blow pops and some mooch. They all in innocent. You're just using baby words, okay? You're making it grosser. Yeah, exactly. Who gives more pacifies? Who gives more blow pops? Catherine a Hannah and Louise, like definitely Catherine. So the meeting with Ashley and Catherine

on a park bench, because where else are they going to meet here always a bench. Yeah, it's like some Ingmar Bergman movie. They've already used the Joe's crab shack on both sides of town. So here we are. So you look nice like it's in overalls. That's how Catherine starts laughing because obviously she was being sarcastic and Ashley's not laughing back. So she says last night was a lot for everybody and I didn't appreciate the allegations you were saying and Ashley's like, well, I was getting bombarded by crazy rumors and some of the stuff that was sad was really hurtful. Like the.

It was like it was like being in the middle of five different baggage shoots and all the bags were coming down all at once. It was like being a little boy putting his finger on the baggage tray and then getting it twisted off when the baggage started going around in a circle. It was like I went and sat on my bag on the baggage carousel. And then when I went under the black flaps and thought it'd be awesome on the other side, it was just terrible and I almost got a machine. It was as painful as when the airline charges extra money for having overweight

luggage, but doesn't pass it on to the hard worker. When they didn't put the little stick around to say heavy bag and you lifted up and hurt your back, it was like that. You know what? How about I get a sticker that says fragile about that? You know, in the South, people don't want to put me on a carousel. In the South, you're handling baggage before you're walking. So Catherine says, well, I've been hearing stuff that people put inside of my ear and it was wrong for me to judge you and I'm sorry. It was like an elephant on my chest. It doesn't even make sense, but I like the life. Trying to keep up with the Bravo tradition of random elephant things. So she's like, oh that elephant on my chest. Can we talk about the elephant on my chest?

And Ashley is like, well, thank you and you have balls, you know, just talk, you know, just next time Just talk to me and don't make stuff up. Okay, you know, I like her She really swallowed her pride. That was really difficult for her what she did And then she goes, but this isn't a giant leap and you know, I'll believe it when I see it She turns into a total bitch, then yeah, it got there's probably like wait, I'll talk to Ashley damn how wasted was I So asked notice that Ashley never apologizes and Ashley was the one he said, well, I heard from the Botox lady that you're cheating on my, I mean, that's the worst thing. Yeah, that was exactly that. That's a very good point.

That's a very good point and very good point. She never apologizes and the smart thing that's after him is. Yeah, the smart thing Catherine does is not even expect it. Yes, she knows how to put out the fire. She's like, anyway, I got to leave town. All this stress about what's going to happen to my black couches, it is really doing a number on me. See you in another town.

Bye. She doesn't even care. She's just like, please don't attack me. They did another dinner party. Enjoy not being in the crossover scenes. So everybody's in their car going over. And Catherine tells Hannah about the Ashley meeting. And she said, well, you know, it was weird

because I've never had a conversation with her. And we had one. And it has like, well, I did, but it didn't crush the drama. And I'm like, uh, can we just crush the drama? And she's still mad. And Catherine says, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. We did crush it. And she goes, oh, well, I guess she got to play with nice Ashley. Yeah. And not have that's because that's because you expected. I'm so sorry. I think there was a spider on me. Oh my good Beeler

It's a dog. I thought it was a whisper. I'm so sorry Everybody but that's because Catherine or Hannah is waiting for an apology for what Ashley did And that's just not ever gonna happen. Yeah, and Catherine wasn't any cat. I just didn't even care Yeah, so then so then speaking of Ashley in hurt She's evacuating with Nelson. They're driving up. And Nelson talked about the night before. And he's like, you know, I just thought when I said that,

you'dish work. I mean, it's just like, you know, it's like Donald Trump Locker Talk. You know, it doesn't mean anything. I'm like, you can't. Don't use the locker room talk. That is like the worst excuse ever. Locker Talk is not like acceptable.

Like, it's not. People do it. It doesn't make it. I mean, that's right, okay? I mean, next people next people are gonna say I shouldn't grab people by the pussy. I mean hell they know that is a great yes. That's a great yes. You know I'll put in my finger and pussy's almost as much as I like putting him penis in that and then wiggling and round and stuff until I ejaculate like a good old hit over sexual male does. Celebrity beef you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court.

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see, I can't control myself, especially around the Jews. I would say something like that for somebody who ain't in the dead or split. No, the main. And Ashley's like, oh my god, I know you don't mean anything, but you really need to be careful with your words because we all have to be responsible on the south, okay? It's like an arrest development when Michael goes up to Tobias and is like, listen, you got to carry around a tape recorder and listen to things you say, okay? You gotta make sure you know about the things you say. Nelson goes, well, it was uncoothed with the Capitol you.

So they show up at Ashley's home like where her mom's house and they get there and Nelson, you know, he starts playing the piano. He's like's and like a press mom's it. It's like a church him. It was out to joy. Wait, was he playing Ode joyers that in my head? It was Ode joy.

It really was. It really was. Over in Africa. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Yes, I can. That's the national. I have the dumb one. I've the dumb one. There's creepy paintings in every southern house that we've seen. Every southern parent house

that we've seen. It's like these creepy, flowers in the attic painting of the kids. And the first thing I thought in that home was, oh my god, it's so clean. I figured it was a built Gothic. It felt like a Southern Gothic home. Yeah. Uh, and Nelson's like, well, I was glad for that damer vacuation. Uh, and he plays a piano and he's like, well, despite what people think, my heart is not filled with hate. In fact, the antithesis.

Well, the end of the play. Well, what an egregious thing to say the mom claps and she's like oh my god for Christmas parties you are And he goes well this piano plays well. It's the piano. It plays well. It's like attitude. It's not that egregious He's like okay. Well, thanks for having me. I'm going no more expensive home now, you fags. Oh, Nelson, oh, geez. Oh, yeah. So then over in Charlotte, the sock party is in full swing, and Louis is going around, you know, he's giving away the free socks.

The same thing is like, yeah, this sock is inspired by Alex and him and Queen, and you know somewhere across the ocean and Annabelle from Lazelundin is like, Alexander, killing him, he died, but he's now he's being killed. They're murdering him over Novart the salt. So they're there, they're all like looking at the socks and guess who chose up. Gorsh! It's Shep here with the evacuation people. And they're like Syrian refugees. Gorsh! On awkward. I feel like a refugee Syrian. Oh, Shep. Oh, Shep, Shep, Shep. It feels wrong.

So Shep is trying really hard to be a bro with the other bros, which is odd because on Southern Charm, he's like, I'm just like, you know, I'm a bro, like I like the party, but I'm just like a boyish, foppish thing. And here he's like, bro, and he even had this like grow, grow your voice. It's like, who are you? He's like, dude, I'm going to kill some deer with this shit. I'm going to kill some deer and shit with these on. You know, actually my take on it was, was not that he was trying to be more bro, but this was like a guy who is an established celebrity. You know, like the big fish in the small pond. It actually came off to me like that.

Like these guys are like, you know, their friends or whatever, but they're on like the smaller reality show. And here I am, Shep, like one of the stars of the big reality show. And so to me, it actually read, not even as cocky, but it just had that vibe. You know, the vibe of someone who is more famous than everyone else. And that's how I read it.

I was like, it's sort of weird to see, because you're right, the vibe with Shep was different than on Southern Charm. Yeah, if he was like that on Southern Charm, I never would have liked him. Like he's kind of charming on that show. He was just gross on this one. Yeah. And have liked him like he's kind of charming on that show. He was just gross on this one And they're like what you fucking robust my calves are

Like what are you doing here? He's like oh, I got family here bro. Gar's bro cars I want a nephew or you know, or maybe I should have a kid starting pregnant someone bra Yeah, and Dan to fluey someone brah yeah yeah and dan to fluey uh luie you don't need to be doing a shot okay because you get too drunk and the business partner was Steven what was his name I don't remember what the guy's name was the poor little guy who does all the work and you can tell because he does the whole night he's like oh god please don't give him a shot please don't give him a shot lie all mean while I was like having the best day

ever he or he was like this is just like the old days Hey, let's take some obscure photos guys Hey, I got some double-sided type for anybody's got a mirror Come on guys like let's go crib it up to this guys. That's right. So the girls arrive to surprise the bullies and Hannah goes, you know, this is great. I'm so proud of Louis for going after something he's passionate about. Zox. Actually, the cringe worthy moment for me came when once everyone was there, Shep was talking to Lyall and Catherine and I think, Chef called them a power couple and Lyle was like, yeah, we're like Jay-Z and Beyonce.

I just, I mean, I have nothing to say to that. I just, I, it was one of those, it was, that was a full growner as they say. I know a lot of people like to compare themselves to Jay-Z and Beyonce, but this is truly the biggest degradation of. It's always people like to compare themselves to Jay Z and Beyonce, but this is true. It's always a big expectation. It's always people like this every time. Has anybody ever said we're like Jay Z and Beyonce that you've gone, oh, that kind of are.

You sell things for tanning salons and Catherine doesn't do anything. Yeah. Jay Z and Beyonce kind of do a lot. Just Catherine drinking lemonade really does make guys Jay Z and Beyonce kind of do a lot, okay? Just Catherine drinking lemonade really does this guy's Jay Z and Beyonce. Okay. I can't even imagine Catherine trying to fill the heels of Beyonce like he run the world Wait, who Wait, am I supposed to know the answer to that? I don't know Crab's Abraham Jeffers soon Mmm, all the single ladies all the single ladies

Uh, I Don't know like go somewhere like do something with your lives like I don't care. I don't know So back over at Ashley's Ashley's like um Mom, I love being home mom You know you're at home before you even learned walking the South. I'm even thinking of moving back in just kidding. And her mom's like, not again,

because you know Ashley has moved home like 20 times and her adulthood. Yeah. And so once again, Ashley starts complaining about her, like, if you can't talk to her, I can play about Dennis. She's like, I feel so alone and all this stuff. And her mom's like, well, well, you know, sometimes life is hard.

The mom's advice was so confusing. She said, well, honey, I understand that level of fatigue, but you need to continue to do the right thing. And, you know, sometimes being married, young works, I mean, it works. It works out like me and daddy. But you know, life is hard. You need to make choices and you need to protect Isaac

by not giving him harmful information. I'm like, what are you telling your daughter? What the hell are you saying? Listen, honey, when I said that you should say buy Dennis not go to Dubai with Dennis. I think you got it all mixed up So yeah, they're there's soon. That's always been the problem Ashley I just made a rick um I Forgot to mention by the way that when Lyle and Catherine were comparing themselves to JZ and Beyonce, they then have like an interview moment where Lyle goes. Catherine goes for a fun man and Catherine goes such as his self.

Catherine. His self. Sail. After it cracks me up every time. I love her. She's my favorite. Just her slowness. And that she's obviously got real hair, but it looks like a blonde wig like in the 80s. I just love it. I don't know why she says things like his self. And elephant on my chest.

So the next morning. Fire alarm. Fire alarm. Fire alarm. This is the moment that's been like teased since being on the show and since last last week and then like before the commercial break. Like there's an emergency and it's like this is during the hurricane. Nine hours before the hurricane. There's emergency fire alarm. There's one fire truck outside. I think

we're going to be fine guys. But we don't go outside and Thomas is here too with his kids and his mommy. Yeah, and the guys just to arrive outside and say bro a lot to each other. So like bro bro bro bro of cameos, but it's like not leading to anything, you know? It's like an episode of Empire. Not a whole lot happens here. So let's go over to the bowling alley, shall we? Yes, but before we do that, I do want to mention that Lyle farts in the car and that the girls get pedicures and they call happy and that river street is already under water and then Catherine sister shows up and like, hi Catherine sister.

Okay, so then we go to wait, but then we go to a, and then we go to the sock factory and this one Louis gives like a tour of the sock factory and Louis, as they're driving over, Louis is like, oh, he's like, sorry Daniel, I'm not sure you can go into the sock factory, these are like important people and I'm not sure you can go in because you got that long hair. It's a for serious people and they get there.

It's like in a shack. I mean, not a shack. It's a factory. But it's like, this is not like walking into more a max. Okay. This is like a place with like aluminum sliding that go in and they look at sacks. Okay. So now, she's like, guys, I've go in and they look at socks. Okay. So now I'm freaking out. He's like, guys, I've told you about my love for socks. I've told you about the

need for socks. I showed you guys how to speak to the socks. I'm like, okay, that's enough now, idiot. So bowling. Let's go girls versus boys. Thomas is there. is there bowling bowling chef is there and Catherine takes Thomas aside drunk as always of course Right this is Catherine Catherine with a C not Catherine with the K. She's not there. So you know I've been dating this guy for I forgot long time long time and he's like where is he of course that's Thomas's question. Well, where is he? And she's like oh he's over there damn No, probably make me so much pressure and then Thomas's advice has drunk an advice He's like well if you have any conflicts with your mind and heart and emotion you struggle with How's your vagina feel?

She's like, married scares me. I fear of failing. Well, you know what it's like. And he says fear of failure often has the opposite effect. Yeah. And he's people even talking about by the way, if we're in Charleston your last name we're pre-ponounced Cooper like super Mario Brothers are super Cooper You know what I'm saying. She's like it's Cooper

We're the C. I don't know and some letters in between which I still don't know Now before I sexually harass you further. I need to make sure you're not alarm how saw you go. Because I know that a lot of the loudness and she owns an abattoir underneath my bridge. So then all of a sudden, like a hurricane report comes on TV and they're like, oh my god, it's a hurricane. We could be losing everything. Yeah. And then they go on the way back and they're all in the car and really eats a four day old chicken salad. That's been sitting in the car. I mean, and they all think he when he opens it up, they all thought he farted because they could smell it. And he still went and ate like a bite. I was like, it was disgusting. And, uh, Leo calls Hannah's card and he's like,

Hi, how much guys, yo, how are you? And, uh, Hannah's like, I got enough and I was like, Well, Catherine's got a massive amount of guys. Oh, that's a lot of the original about there. Nice. Nice fart joke episode of Southern Charms of terms of I love that we go from like racial deep discussions to farting for half an episode. That's what we love about Bravo. And then it ends with them getting back into town and a tree fell over right next to Daniel's house and

like, wow, that could have been Daniel's car. Wow. This is you guys. This is real. There's one tree down. This is real, man. She just got real. I'm like, listen, real world key West was dealing with the hurricanes 10 years ago. OK, they were in hurricane Fran or whatever it was called. Fiona, what was the name of that hurricane?

Rita. Hurricane Rita. It was a jazzy little hurricane that wore sequins. We've seen this before. No one needs a fran hurricane. Mr. Jabbiel. Loading down trees and fran dressers wake. Wasn't hurricane Rita. It was like the number two. Remember that there was hurricane Katrina and then like Rita came up right behind her. Anyway.

You know what? I don't pay attention to hurricanes and stuff. I didn't even remember Hurricane Matthew and that was like six months ago, whenever it was. Yeah, and when I lived in Florida, there were hurricanes. I mean, I was only there and I think there were two or three that we had to like lock ourselves in. And everybody has these storm things that they pull down. And then you just sit inside and play Scrabble with somebody's mom for a day And it goes away. I mean, I personally love hurricanes

Well, I I remember certain hurricanes. I remember growing up. I remember Hurricane Gloria It's like Hurricane Gloria Hurricane Gloria came to New York and I remember the trees blowing There was I remember it was at Hurricane Milo or something like that where it was like a hurricane Hugo I was like hurricane Hugo everyone and it was literally sunny the entire day. And then Hurricane Andrew was a big one. That was a big Florida one. And then obviously Katrina and obviously Rita. And then Sandy,

Sandy, Hurricane Sandy was well, super storm Sandy. But I don't remember the other hurricanes very well. Actually, what I remember because she was in Greece. Well, Sandy was a was a big one. There's so this is okay. I know we're at the end of the show, but like I have to tell the story because for me, it's like the funniest thing ever. I went to college with the girl named Fen Shen and her first name was Phan.

Her last name was Shen and she was this girl with it's like big, frizzy hair. And she'd come in. She's like, hey, that's and it always was like, she was like this big personality, sort of a small girl with big personality. And one time, like, like, seven years ago, there was a typhoon in Asia. And the typhoon was called Benchon. And I could not stop laughing. Because imagine if there was a hurricane named like Hurricane Ronnie Carram,

like specifically, you're not just like your first name. It's your full name like Hurricane Ronnie Karam is coming to America. And the fact that it was Fenshin of all people with her frizzy hair. And there's a typhoon called hurricane Fenshin. Yeah, that's where you know that Fenshin, like the meteorologist just knew Fenshin. Yeah. So someone at the Bureau of Typhoon naming was like, oh, and that girl, that girl with the 2001 at Dartmouth, yeah, let's give her a hurricane or Typhoon.

But anyway, it is the end of the week and we're doing Southern Toronto Savannah. However, we do have the Crafts and Mailbags. So let's get into that a little bit, shall we? Let's do a ban. You go to patreon.com forward slash watch what happens and sign up there and come do it. It's really fun. We love the questions and it's really cool, especially when we get new people getting, you know, like asking their questions because new people ask different sort of questions. Okay.

So, um, Catherine spelled like Catherine from Southern China. Savannah says, I'm bored. Can you please reenact Ramona telling African animals to get a job? We had like a bit one time, a few years ago. I don't remember what episode it was where we went on a tear, where we somehow we got to a place where Ramona was talking to animals and talking to get jobs. And it's somehow it's talking about, she's like, I'm buff going on some bar. Okay. Like, you're amazing. You know, you go to Africa and you're like, hi elephant. Hi elephant, what are you up to today?

Why are you sitting there walking around? Why don't you do something with your life elephant? Why don't you join a circus, okay? You know, look over there, it says the bra. What? No, it says the bra, that's how I call it. Well, this, ah. This is crazy. When I see those zebra stripes,

I'm reminded when I was a little girl. It was July 4th. We went to see fireworks. And I wanted to salute the flag. I said, this is for the stars and stripes. And Geraldine Parsonsmith said, no, you cannot desecrate the flag like that. That's not America you're saluting. That's just a Ben and Jerry sign.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This day I can't look at Zebra's or ice cream. I just love Ramona being on one of those. Um, it does two or a versus like, oh my god, is that a horse? It's like no Ramona. Why does that horse look like that? That's the craziest horse ever seen. Seriously. It's like black and white. It's like stripe. It's like a stripe horse.

That's nuts. Who painted the horse? That's not right. Who painted it? Who painted it? Who painted it? Whoa, look at that vacuum cleaner. That's a crazy vacuum cleaner.

It's so big. What do you need a big vacuum cleaner? Is that like a industrial vacuum cleaner? No, it's an elephant Ramona. What? That's crazy. That's a vacuum cleaner. That's an elephant? That's how I say it, okay? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but that nose is too long. It's day-class say. I'm sorry. You know what the elephant needs to do? It needs to go get a job. It's going to cruise liner. She'll go entertain people. You know, there's cruise liner, there's a lot of people on there and a lot of floors needs to be vacuumed.

So that elephant should go on a cruise and they couldn't vacuum up the floors for everyone. And everyone could be happy. The elephant will have a job and the people have a dust free floor, okay? Okay. All right, what else is in there being? Rebecca Shaq.

Rebecca says, Rebecca's one of our crap in spotlight ladies. She says looks like the White House communications director position is open. Which housewife do you think would be best for the position? I'm leaning towards Shannon Bdor Donald Donald Donald Donald the press position. Yeah, it would be a good like Sean Sean Spicer replacement from the one of the best things that Sean Spicer is doing is highlighted very well by Melissa McCarthy, which is just getting super angry because you know the press corps the press guy has to go out there and just stand up and say whatever they tell them these poor things and we haven't had a good chance for them to not have to lie in years and years and years, you know, they have to go out there and just

spout all these lies and stuff. And I think that Sean Spicer's defensiveness is beautiful and amazing to watch and hilarious. So I have to Shannon would bring that with her. And if someone's like, well, you know, what do you say about allegations that Avonka helped try to out and then they passed her a bunch of copyrights? And she could be like, how dare you? How dare you? What is your name? What is your name? Well, listen here, man, 42-year-olds. Let me tell you, you don't understand. Do you know how hard getting a copyright is? Do you? Do you know?

Shannon, you know what Shannon would do if she were at that podium, she would just do this. Okay, David, do you understand that people, because those people have that violence, that no, this husband is, to no, they're doing horrible to me. That's what you would do. To press, David. I actually can't imagine any Bravo personality that would be bad at it. Like, I was just thinking, like, my mind always goes

to New York City first, real hot sauce in New York City, and almost all of them, maybe not a carol, but almost all of them would be brilliant in their own way, because you have a bad thing, be like, so I like what's the matter? Like, what's going on? Like, what's the matter? China, China copyrights?

Like, big deal, made in China. It's like, everything's made in China. Like, you think skinny girls made in United States, not. Like, whatever, like, I don't say I can't deal. Like, I don't see, like, what's my China copy rights? Like, big deal, made in China. It's like, everything's made in China. Like, you think skinny girls made in, you know, say it's not, like, whatever. Like, I'll say I can't deal. Like, I'll see, like, just like, pop me under like, like, like, a sack of portion could be like, I don't say I can't deal.

Like, I'll see, like, be quiet. Should you do that? You would have, LeWam being like, would you believe it? You're talking about China again? I'm getting married in two weeks. Why would you say such a thing? You know, Dorenda would just like lay into it.

Hey, hey, you want to talk about China? Why don't we talk about your bad manners? I invited you here. I made you all cake. I did it nice. It was talking about what you did to my Chinese. We just speculated. I put that China like it's me.

I got my China. You treated it like it was a paper plate. You know, I think I'd like to get some cow. I got my cow. You're treated like it was a paper plate. You know, I think I'd like to see Ray from New York City be the White House spokesman. Who told you about China, bitch? Who? Who? No.

No. You're just trash. You're trash. Oh my god, I'm shaking in my socks right now. Oh my god, I miss you, Glenn. I miss you shaking my socks. Who? Sir, a lot of people are asking if your foundation is phony. What do you have to say?

Um, I have a foundation and help switch people. I'm frisk people. A piece of new beds. A piece of who. I think Stasi would also be really good. She would either, because she would either be like, I don't know what your problem with China is, but I'll take a Pin also be really good. She would either, because she would either be like, I don't know what your problem with China is,

but I'll take a Pinot Grigio, like Collusion AF, am I right? Who does that? He's so funny. All right, anything else in there being? There's more, but let's save it for next week. Well, let's see that, everybody. Thank you so much for coming on over to watch what crap in. We sure love you. Have a great weekend over there. Yeah, for reals, yo,

wow, Ronnie, this was a fun week. It was in the beginning, we retired, we were sluggish. And I find it odd that somehow we found the entity to go the whole week long. You know, get old racism argument. It's always, it's always good for your energy at the end of the to go the whole week long. You know, get old racism argument is always is always good for your energy at the end of the week. That's right. Start by talking about Sheree Sun Monday and racism on Friday, done our jobs and a little talk about McDonald's in the middle. I know. We talked about it a long time ago, but just please start your. No, I'm start your weekend.

The way that you started your week with us. Start your weekend the way that you started your week with us I find it odd that my weekend starting That's I think my new favorite thing all time. Yeah, I find it odd the fa fa myth believe Everybody thinks I'm not sure I'll talk to you next week. Bye. Bye everyone. Hey, prime members, you can listen to watch or crap and add free on Amazon music. Download the Amazon music app today. Or you can listen to add free with Wondry Plus in Apple Podcasts before you go tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondry.com slash survey.