Watch What Crappens - #96: Can You Throw Ham In Outer Space?

Episode Date: October 2, 2013

This week on "Watch What Crappens," Matt Whitfield (Yahoo!), Ronnie Karam (trashtalktv.com), and Ben Mandelker (bsideblog.com) ask important questions such as "What happens when you put a lap... band in zero gravity?" and "Where is Tia Carrere these days anyway?" Believe it or not, this all pertains to Bravo and the latest shenanigans on "Real Housewives of New Jersey," "Real Housewives of Miami," "I Dream of Nene," "Eat. Drink. Love.,' and "Top Chef: Masters." Yes, we cover all those shows AND gossip. Big episode! Come listen! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From Wondery and Audible comes Class of 88, a new podcast hosted by Will Smith. Before 1988, a lot of people didn't take hip-hop seriously. But hip-hop today touches everything from film to fashion to sports. So what changed? Follow Class of 88 wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, welcome to Watch What Crappens, the weekly podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we love. I'm Ben Mandelker from bsideblog.com. Joining me, as always, Matt Whitfield from Yahoo. Hi, Matt. Hey, Ben. Don't get a sunburn up there. I'll try not to. Can you hear the sound of heavy machinery driving by?
Starting point is 00:00:47 And also, Ronnie Karam from TrashTalkTV.com. Hi, Ronnie. Hello. What's up, everybody? Ben, Ben, Ben, are you spying on MJ? Are you on Slider Patrol? I'm looking. I actually probably could see her balcony from here. She's nowhere to be seen. He's just doing that to show off his bicep, people.
Starting point is 00:01:09 You all know what I'm talking about. Which is a good thing that you mention that, because we are broadcasting this over the air on a Google Hangout. It'll be posted on YouTube, on our YouTube channel, youtube.com forward slash the TV click. It will be there later on. It's not there right now. If you want to watch it live, you've come to our facebook page the link is there otherwise you can listen to us on itunes or soundcloud or any of those fine varieties but if you listen to us you miss half the fun you don't get to see you don't get to see my arm you don't get to see
Starting point is 00:01:37 matt's lovely bumblebee sweater and you don't know this is nautical not this is not black and yellow this is blue and white on my on screen, it looks like black and yellow. You look like a bumblebee. I am stinging. Okay, now, so wait. We've been on for two minutes, and you're already going to start abusing me? This is an honor of Below Deck. It's very nautical.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It is. Well, you look like a bumblebee to us, which is fine. It's adorable. And Ronnie has a guitar behind him. Anyway, this is our long way of saying you should watch us on YouTube. Matt is at Life on the M-List on various social media platforms. I'm at B-Side Blog and Ronnie's at Trash Talk
Starting point is 00:02:12 Trash Tweet TV or sometimes Trash Talk TV. Depends on what platform you're on. Why don't you try them both? You'll see what comes up. Anyway, gosh, we have a lot of Bravo things to talk about this week, don't we? We certainly do. Sorry for those of you who are tuning in, by the way, for our technical difficulties at the beginning of the episode,
Starting point is 00:02:30 but thank you for joining us. I would like to start out by talking about all these casting rumors because so many of them have been flying around. I want to get your guys' opinions. I would like to start with Orange County. I know we talked about this a little bit last week but gretchen and alexis really seem to be done so thank god thank god yeah i think that that show needs a little shake up anyway however i'm gonna really miss gretchen alexis i was sad last year
Starting point is 00:02:59 when we heard she got fired she wasn't gonna come back i was really sad because alexis has the best dumb bitch scenes of any housewife that's ever been on. There's a lot of dumb housewives, but Alexis takes the cake. You have to admit, you're going to so miss her acting classes. I mean, that was pure TV gold. I am. You know, if anyone deserved a spinoff, it was Alexis. I am going to miss her trying to act.
Starting point is 00:03:25 If anyone deserved it, can you guys hear me at all? Or am I just speaking into the void here? We can hear you. Okay. We can hear you, but it's weird because you're outside, I think. Oh, really? Is there a delay for me? There's a delay. I guess there is.
Starting point is 00:03:40 How about I move inside where the audio will be better? Continue talking as I move my operations inside. Everyone can enjoy what they want. This has disaster written all over it. It does, doesn't it? All right. Keep talking about Gretchen and Alexis. Okay, so, Ronnie, then...
Starting point is 00:03:55 Well, I think the Gretchen and Alexis thing, I think, is kind of depressing. But I'm super happy that they're going to be getting some new bitches in there. And I hope it's someone that really has been watching the show for a long time and wants to take down tamra and heather at all turns like every turn i want whatever new girls come on to just try and tear down tamra and heather i think they need that i am so happy to hear that you are finally on board with um team i hate heather i am the fan club president of that. Nothing makes my heart happier. But the other thing, which I think will rile you up, which I'm excited to do, is that as soon as these rumors started to come about last week with Gretchen and Alexis being fired, none other than our favorite former housewife, Jill Zarin, had to start weighing in and blabbing all about, you know, and blabbing all about, you know, making up these,
Starting point is 00:04:47 or finding ways to get herself published in magazines to discuss, like, how you really, like, the five reasons why you know you're not being invited back for the next season. And what were they? Do you remember any of them? Because I couldn't, I clicked on that article and I could barely even concentrate because Jill Zarin just, everything starts clouding up. Flames. I feel flames. Flames. I feel flames. Flames on the side of my face. You better be careful right now because nobody should ever equate Madeline Kahn's award-worthy performance in Clue as Mrs. White with the horrible, horrible Jill Zarin. R.I.P. Madeline Kahn.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Oh, no, no, honey. I'm being Madeline. I'm pouring one out for Madeline Kahn. Into my mouth. I'm being Madeline Kahn. Madeline K I'm pouring one out for Madeline Khan. Into my mouth. I'm being Madeline Khan. Madeline Khan hated men. And I'm equating Jill Zarin with all the terrible men in Madeline Khan's life that she ended up
Starting point is 00:05:31 murdering. Spoiler alert if you didn't see Clue in the 90s. It was a lot better than the reviews gave it credit for. Alright. Go watch it. It came out in 1985, but we're not going to do film history right now. Oh my god, really? I was so young. My favorite movie ever so much hair in 1985 so one of the things that jules aaron said she was like well one of the
Starting point is 00:05:51 ways that you'll know that you're not being invited back for the next season is producers won't call you to ask hey girl what are you up to for the next six months no shit bitch like i think that she's having to explain this to a why it's not happening, and that's why she had to make it so simple. But no shit. Here's a great way to find out. What were some of the other ones? Do you remember? I'm busy staring at Ben's chest in that tight white t-shirt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Sure I am. Can you guys hear me at all or no? You're fine, buddy. You're fine. I probably didn't even have to come inside. You probably didn't. Okay, but let's move on. I want to talk about other casting drama because right now we're in the middle of craziness, and we're going to get to the full-on craziness with The Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But rumors have been circulating this week that Kathy McKeeley is now going to be bumped back to Friend of the Housewives, that Jacqueline has been fired, that they are bringing back Dina Manzo full-time while Caroline goes off and tries to have her spin-off, and we'll see if that's a success or not. If it isn't, she'll probably come back just the way like NeNe ran back to Housewives once her NBC sitcom was canceled but what is going on with jersey i have hated this entire season the only thing that can save it in my opinion is the return of danielle saab with a butcher knife yeah i think that the show is just new jersey really i mean
Starting point is 00:07:18 it's stagnated and you know they had such a great chance to make it entertaining this past weekend we know all the shit that went down at that party we know that there were uh charges filed against jacqueline and her husband and the albie boys for for being terrorists or something like that right or it wasn't the albie boys this time i think it was just chris jacqueline and joe maybe who was it anyway there were like terroristic charges filed against them because they were, like, throwing sinks. And there was supposedly blood all over the place. So I don't know what happened to all of that. But that was some lameness.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, I actually, what was surprising to me was that Caroline's segment on the show, and I guess we'll get to it, felt very much like a goodbye segment. It was like, this is Caroline's final hurrah. She's looking around her house. We're remembering all the things from the past few years with Caroline. So it felt very much like a send-off for her. It'd be interesting if they brought back Dina, and I would love to see Danielle come back.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They do definitely have to clean house. The entire show has completely stagnated. It was two years ago. It was riveting, but it has not evolved. This shocks me because the two of you were some of Kathy Wakili's biggest supporters. I love Kathy. I wasn't. I've always thought
Starting point is 00:08:33 that bitch was boring. The best thing she ever did on that show was her first scene when she was riding a bike like Murder, She Wrote. Yeah. That was the best part because I really liked Cabot Cove and Murder, She Wrote. She is the Jessica Fletcher of Franklin Heights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 But she never solved shit. She only solved cannoli mysteries. She did solve a mystery. She found out that her husband's a dick. She solves mysteries pertaining to cannolis and gas stations. She found out that her sister was a lesbian. Yeah, so she solved that one too. I don't think that was much of a mystery. So what else? What other gossip? I'm not done talking about that. I want to know what you guys think about Dina coming back because, you know bravo and a lot of people are saying
Starting point is 00:09:25 that theresa is in desperate need of an ally that she hasn't had for such quite you know for quite some time and i think bringing dina back's a great idea my question is will dina start throwing daggers at melissa because i you saw that they started to paint the picture as melissa is the villain now we're going to turn the tables and i think by bringing in dina they're going to make theresa come back you know rise to the top and they're going to go the tables. And I think by bringing in Dina, they're going to make Teresa come back, rise to the top, and they're going to go daggers straight at Melissa and Joe. But you know what, though? This presupposes that we're going back into the same old fights.
Starting point is 00:09:54 What appeared to be resolved at the end of this season, all of a sudden, for Teresa to need an ally, that means that we're going right back into the same old shit theresa versus melissa versus joe gorga and and quite frankly we're we're done with that we've seen that now for three separate seasons and with declining returns so if theresa needs an ally then that's a bad sign for the storylines to come i did not watch season one because back then i was a smart person who liked to actually be creative and like have friends in the real world and not just sit at home and eat all the time and i had a real life so i don't really know much about dina all i know about her is what i saw on her terrible hgtv show where she would like design parties for people and she was
Starting point is 00:10:41 really fucking obnoxious and then i saw her on that chris march show where he was making clothes on bravo for a little while and he made her a dress out of asphalt and she was really nasty about it and it's like bitch you just wanted to be on tv wear that asphalt and shut up i don't want to hear you complain so i don't know how much i care about her how did he make a dress out of asphalt he's gay and he wasn't technically asphalt but it was like it was this really thick black rock material. It was like real gritty and it looked like asphalt. And she's like, this is so uncomfortable because, you know, she's walking around and she's like, you know, it was like gravel. She was wearing asphalt, basically.
Starting point is 00:11:16 So I don't know. I think she's a big complainer. I don't like her. But that's only from what HGTV showed me. It was reminiscent of sandpaper. If you come off bad on HGTV, then there's no way you can ever come off good on Bravo. Because, you know, HGTV... Whatever, Genevieve Gorder has a career.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That's true, too. Are we starting to throw shade at Genevieve Gorder? Oh, she's terrible. You know, that's what I don't understand about HGTV and the Food Network, frankly. Aren't there better people? I mean, Giada makes a fucking grilled piece of salmon with some honey on it. Bitch, really? You got a cooking show and you're making a grilled piece of salmon?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Okay. And then all she does is say, mm, good, mm. They don't have people who can cook on these shows? Well, it's not like she actually eats cheese. I'm like HGTV, Genevieve Gorder. Genevieve is not the one to start going after. If you're going to go after anybody, go after Vern Yip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Oh, he's there, too. He's in there, too. He's in the mix, too. If you gave me more time on those, I'd go through them all. The only one I like is Candace, and she's Canadian. Hate her. I actually don't know who Candace is. Where's Genevieve?
Starting point is 00:12:18 Queen of HGTV with all of her shabby, chic trash. Where's Genevieve? Tweet-a, bop-bop, tweet-a. I hate that theme song. That theme song makes me want to kill people. her shabby chic trash. Isn't, isn't, we're in Genevieve and we're in, uh... I hate that theme song. That theme song makes me want to kill people. Be that a sweet idea. Anyway, um, so...
Starting point is 00:12:38 The Real Housewives of New Jersey is kind of doomed. The problem is the ratings are so high, so Bravo has a serious problem on their hands. I would just like to put this out there for everybody listening and watching to us right now on Watch What Crappens. You guys need to not support the Manzo family spinoff.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'm telling you right now, do not support that show. Do not give it ratings. Force that big old bulldog back on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. If we have to put up with her, she should be putting up with Teresa's bullshit. She should not be able to run off and have her own fun spin-off with her family, because I don't want to see them
Starting point is 00:13:10 play Throw the Ham. Or the Egg Salad. Throw the Ham. I can't see that show doing very well. I think that it's hard enough to watch them on TV with the segments that they have. But maybe it will. Who knows? I don't know. I would kind of like to watch it because I want
Starting point is 00:13:29 to watch all their businesses fail miserably. There's a certain good feeling I get watching that. And I don't know why, because they don't seem like mean people. They all seem fairly nice, except for Lauren. And it's only because she can't eat anymore. But the rest of them seem like very nice people. I don't know what it is. But when they were showing that clip of Albie telling Caroline he got kicked out of law school yet again and Caroline was all sobbing, I was just giggling like a little bit. So it was the best part for me of the whole show. You do bring up a very good point. It would be fun to watch their businesses fail.
Starting point is 00:14:00 But more importantly, how much fun would it be to watch their marriage truly fail and for Albert to just straight up cheat on Caroline and walk out on her? That would be heaven to me. I actually don't feel like that would be so nice to watch. I feel like I would rather just watch the continued failings of their children as they do one poor entrepreneurial idea after another. So they started with – let's see. So Lauren started a cafe where you can get your makeup done and eat egg salad at the same time. Okay. Not a great idea. Then the kids started, they're like, oh, you know what we're going to do? We are going to sell water that is the most unnatural color of all. In fact, it looks like the color of pollution.
Starting point is 00:14:39 We're going to sell that. And watching them serve that to Nicholas, inappropriate. Inappropriate. And they're like, okay, for a third venture, let's go into an industry which has the highest failure rate of all. Let's start a restaurant. Are they going to build a spaceship next? Is that their next plan here? They're going to call up Lance Bass and they're going to build a spaceship. Yeah, but not a good spaceship.
Starting point is 00:15:05 It's going to be like a spaceship that runs off like horse poop and never gets off the ground. Yeah, I'd like to see them reenact gravity. I'm just imagining Loren Manzo spinning around like Sandra Bullock in space debris. And be like, oh, egg salad flying in zero gravity. What happens when you put like a lap band into zero gravity? I feel like that would not be good on the lap band. I feel like there would be some expansion. It would be good, actually, because all you get is that space ice cream.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I mean, how filling can that be? Can you throw ham in outer space? That's the real question. By the way, that is now officially the title of this podcast. Can you throw ham in outer space? That's the real question. By the way, that is now officially the title of this podcast. Can you throw ham in outer space? That's it. Can I change the name of the hangout, or is it too late? Too late.
Starting point is 00:15:54 So something else that has been really fun this week regarding Real Housewives of New Jersey is Melissa Gorga's book tour. Let's discuss this. Housewives of New Jersey is Melissa Gorga's book tour. Let's discuss this. Melissa and Joe have been all over the place talking about their book. Well, Jezebel did a fantastic article just ripping this idiot
Starting point is 00:16:14 apart about all the parts in her book that sound like marital rape. Like when she talks about how you just gotta give it up to your husband. Or when she lets Joe interject and say, you know what, guys guys when your wife says no she really means yes spin her around and rip her clothes off yeah that's called raping your wife yeah uh that sounds like uh this sounds like the book that tyler perry consulted before he wrote tyler perry's temptation because everything in
Starting point is 00:16:40 tyler perry's temptation was super rapey. Just putting it out there. Yeah, except at the end of Melissa's book, Everybody Dies of AIDS. Thank you, by Tyler Perry. Yeah, exactly. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. At the end of Melissa's book, she winds up with a limp, addicted to coke and drugs, and with HIV. And she has a really jagged, lesbian-like haircut from Janet Jackson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 That's pretty much what it is. So anyway. She's been all over the place giving interviews, just making it worse and worse and worse. And so by the time the finale wrapped up and we got to hear one last time Melissa's, what did she say? Hot wife, loyal wife, whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Take a page from my book. And it turns out her book was the biggest piece of crap. And one of the funniest lines in the Jezebel thing was it said, well, we'll give her credit for this. It looks like she actually did write it because it's so fucking stupid. I love those girls that work at Jezebel. They are
Starting point is 00:17:41 geniuses. If you guys don't know their site, you need to go check it out because anybody that hates on Melissa Gorga is a friend of ours. That's right. Melissa Gorga is a horrible, horrible girl. Should we just get into this week's episode? We're sort of bouncing around it. No, we need to say one other thing.
Starting point is 00:17:58 What do you mean, Manny? I was invited to go to the season premiere parties for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Vanderpump Rules. They're doing a combo party. I believe it's at Bungalow on Sunset in a few weeks, so
Starting point is 00:18:13 I may be asking you guys if we want to go to that. I would love to go. Yes, you better invite me. If I see pictures of you with some twink again, I'm going to kick your ass. That is not my type and you know that so maybe uh maybe we'll get to see stassi and shana and jacks have you guys seen the previews i mean i thought that they were gonna clean house there too and get rid of the ponies and stassi or and uh shana um and just really keep uh stassassi and Jax to focus on.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But the whole crowd is back. Oh, good. They might change it up a little. Because there was a poster where it looked like there were a bunch of new people on there. There's some newbies. But in the title card that is airing on Bravo right now, all the usual suspects are back, including Jiggy. I think what's funny is that in one of the promo pictures um this guy there's like an older guy in the cast who's like the manager of the restaurant his name's like gino
Starting point is 00:19:09 or something like that so you know he's probably you know and like the cast is basically like lisa and like a few of her friends who are older and wiser and are just dealing with the shit that they have to and then the younger people who just keep on taking up their shirts but there was a photo shoot where it's like all the guys have their shirt off and then like gino has his shirt off too and admittedly he looks great you know but i was kind of like oh this poor guy like so sad that they're making him take off his shirt like you have to like fight it with the youngins like he shouldn't have to do that it's like making ken take off his shirt it's just not right it's not right even if you do have a good body like at a certain age
Starting point is 00:19:40 they shouldn't be forcing you to take your shirt off if it's part of your contract then you should have to do it. Speaking of shirtlessness, did you see Andy Cohen's latest shirtless pic on Instagram today? I can't avoid Andy Cohen on Instagram as much as I want to talk shit, and I do talk shit about him. I cannot unfollow. Well, and you cannot unsee either. If you haven't seen it, everyone, go to Andy Cohen's Instagram, whatever it's called, probably Andy Cohen, and check out him. I think he's like in a Speedo or something and like hair from the 80s.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It's worth seeing. Really? Well, he's got a really good body, right? I saw a picture of him like last year, and I was like, whoa, he's built under there. I'm always shocked when you see somebody like, and you look at them and they're like built. And good for him. Most nerds just stay home reading things. Are you really surprised that he is
Starting point is 00:20:30 an egotistical gay man? No. Do you remember when that website connection was around? No. It was like a gay social networking website. Andy Cohen used to be on that. And he'd have pictures of him at Fire Island or the Hamptons. You are kidding to be on that. And he'd have these pictures of him at Fire Island or the Hamptons.
Starting point is 00:20:45 You are kidding me. You are kidding. Absolutely not. He was totally on Connection. Why not? If I looked like that, I'd come on this podcast shirtless. Yeah. I'd be naked all the time. Yeah. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten... You're only middle-aged
Starting point is 00:21:01 once, guys. Yeah. Now he will get the time. So we just briefly mentioned Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Have you guys seen the previews for those with the two new cast additions? I think that they look insane.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I feel some trepidation. Me too, because don't you think that they're trashing up Beverly Hills? Yes, I was just going to say that. It's like... Go ahead. No, I was going to say, but of course the joke is that beverly hills is not trashed at all and it's completely as trash as everywhere else just more money yes exactly it is but there's like a certain it's not as low it's not as low as the other shows
Starting point is 00:21:41 you know there is a certain class about that show generally and it was a humongous change when they brought brandy on because she is total trash like yeah all the pictures that the press was getting of her were in the walmart you know like literally like she she was just kind of this trashy girl and still is but then when people responded to that they're like oh well let's just bring more trashy bitches in but you know let's just make them old i don't know um that's what beverly hills is full of you know, let's just make them olds. I don't know. That's what Beverly Hills is full of. You know, that's really what it is full of. I think I mentioned this many months ago on this podcast about how I went to – my parents were in town.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So I got to get to like a nice dinner. And we went to Spago. And it was around December. And it was just full of middle-aged, wasted women, and they're wasted men, men too. And there were like so many women that they all look like Faye Resnick. Faye Resnick is the quintessential Beverly Hills lady. Your skin pulled back, wearing pants that are some shade of silver,
Starting point is 00:22:42 and your hair that's like a helmet with highlights and extensions and glitter everywhere, but not an ounce of class in this woman. Or as my dad would say, she has a lot of class, all of it low. That's what Beverly Hills is. It's all pay resonance. Hashtag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 There's a lot of money, but there ain't much. Yeah. There's a lot of money there, but there's not a whole lot of class. I suppose that's true. Yeah. Listen,
Starting point is 00:23:01 Adrian Maloof. I think Adrian Maloof is, is, is a good example of that the only place anyone can stand to look at her is in LA, everywhere else she'd be laughed out of the room she has a new younger beau
Starting point is 00:23:16 by the way, I saw her step out of Chateau Marmont the other night with a another Sean Stewart lookalike, I think that apparently is her type, and she can afford to have as many of them as she would like. Ugh. How much could that possibly cost?
Starting point is 00:23:32 Don't you remember what that kid looked like? God bless his heart. He looked like a baby Homer Simpson. This one is like a cuter Sean Stewart mixed with a little Madison from Million Dollar List in Los Angeles. Okay, let's talk about these actual shows, please. We started late today, and we have a lot to discuss. A lot happened on Real Housewives of New Jersey, for example.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah, like people cursed, and there was a big fight, and the Bravo cameras stopped rolling, and then they started rolling again, and they stopped and started, and then within a minute, it was over. They completely cheated viewers like ourselves out of what should have been an epic brawl, and therefore, I hate them. Yeah, I don't know what was up with that. Maybe for the legal reason they couldn't show exactly what happened,, you can't tell me that they didn't get any of that action. All we heard was just, like, some – we saw, like, this guy, Johnny the Greek, walk in, looking like he was ready to deliver a pizza and then maybe eat it too. And then you hear, like, a crash and then the screen kept on going black and, like, coming back and screaming. And then it was over. This was, like, a whole season led to this. And we all remember
Starting point is 00:24:45 anytime there's a big brawl on new jersey you get like a full episode that's the fun part a whole hour of brawl and this was just five minutes what gives yeah yeah okay this johnny the greek guy okay so you know we found out in the news that this lawsuit of terroristic charges because of this fight were dropped. And Penny and her husband dropped these charges for whatever reason. They came to some kind of a deal behind the scenes. Or they just got called out for being liars and they have footage to prove it. I don't know what it was, but the charges were dropped. Or the whole thing was fake.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Who knows? But, Johnny, one of the funniest things in this article talking about the charges being dropped was it said Johnny Curry Cocker is from the Rutz Hut or something. And I looked it up and it's like some hot dog shack that deep fries hot dogs. That's what that guy does for a living. Okay. So you've got to hand it to these bottom feeders they actually they've been trying for what four years now to get on tv and they finally became a major storyline on tv and they're on twitter spewing their ridiculous misspelled hating texts all over the place and it's wonderful and it's better now to know that it's from a guy who deep fries a hot dog yeah
Starting point is 00:26:01 don't you feel like these people spend way too much time obsessing over Twitter? That would be the easiest way for them to have a more peaceful existence is to not read about what Penny or Johnny the Greek says on Twitter. And that goes for the Miami women too, by the way. Well, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:26:19 Bravo has said that they judge a lot of their casting decisions based on social media and internet. That's just how everything works now. Even when you're up for a job, in our industry, they'll go look at your Twitter feed and see how many people are following you and shit like that. It matters. Look at Jill Zarin. Look at her.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Oh, my God. Be sure to say this. Be sure to say that. Because she thinks if someone's nice to her on the Internet, she's going to get a show back. Stupid. Shut up, Jill Zarin. Shut up. Shut up, Jill Zarin.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Oh, one of my favorite Jill Zarin moments of the week was during that same article Matt was talking about earlier where she said, Oh, yeah, you know, I'm still close with everyone from Bravo. Andy and I still speak regularly. Jill, tweeting at Andy on Twitter does not mean you're speaking to him regularly. Shut up, Jill Zarin. Sit down. I know you were standing up when you said that. Shut up and sit down, Jill Zarin. Thanks. By the way, I really liked how you just gave
Starting point is 00:27:14 Jill Zarin a Midwest Scandinavian accent. That was a nice touch. It's fading. Jill Zarin's fading from my mind. What does her voice sound like? Oh, yeah. She's like, fading from my mind. What does her voice sound like? What does her voice sound like? Oh, yeah. She's like, hey, everyone.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Thanks so much for watching me on The Real Housewives of New York. Yeah, she's horrible. Okay, so Jersey. The best part of Jersey was Penny saying, yeah, I could show you the Texases. Oh, yeah. Teresa followed suit by not being able to pronounce the word either. Yeah. The truth, I'm sad there.
Starting point is 00:27:52 That was probably the most entertaining part is listening to him rhyme texts with the word Texas. That was phenomenal. You want to see the Texases? You didn't see the Texases? Don't mess with Texases. Well, look, I agree. Don't mess with Texas's. Well, look, I agree. Don't mess with Texas's. I agree
Starting point is 00:28:10 with Teresa on this whole thing. If those people had anything on Teresa, there would be texts and there would be emails. And there's not. Just because she has Teresa's phone number doesn't mean anything. And just because they talk shit around Teresa and she doesn't say anything back, doesn't mean anything either.
Starting point is 00:28:26 We're also forgetting that it is very likely that Melissa was a stripper who did cheat on her husband. Yeah. Oh, yeah, totally. I think that's all. Perhaps even in Texas. Not to be confused with Texas's that belong on Ponystop. Yeah, they were literally asking for pictures from Texas. Yeah, they're like, I want else about this jurors in texas is i love that caroline had to
Starting point is 00:28:51 make it about her on a bull i know didn't you love how caroline had to make it about her and then she started screaming in front of everybody it's just like caroline stop you were not part of this her big like red bonnie franklin hair was like shaking like a palm tree in a hurricane she was just getting so why was she getting so mad and i love how she suddenly has this realization it suddenly occurred to me that the one at the bottom of it all kim d like congratulations where have you been for the past four years i probably want to watch your own show for once you could have right it's out a long time ago and then lauren manzo takes two minutes to pull her finger out of a vat of egg salad just spin around and point it at Kim D and say, it's all your fault.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Kim D's like, y'all got to get my hair fangs dirty. She doesn't have her hair fangs dirty. Yeah, I mean, I agree that if Melissa doesn't want people calling her a stripper, then she should give back all the 20s to the guidos who stuck them in her ass crack for all those years. Yeah, okay. That's how to stop amen sister amen to that yeah if you if you don't want people calling you a strip but keep your coochie in the pants girl were you guys okay do we have anything more about jersey i wanted rosie to have an eruption i mean it was kind of you know whenever there's a fight and rosie doesn't scream like she did at that
Starting point is 00:30:03 reunion last year it kind of makes me sad she probably was wasted there's a fight and Rosie doesn't scream like she did at that reunion last year, it kind of makes me sad. She probably was wasted. There's no doubt about that. She's making some moves on a mannequin. She's also bonded with Joe Gorga. Yeah. Her fingers probably smelled like plastic by the time she got back in the car. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Well, so the fight was a very small part of the whole thing. Sorry, there's a weird internet delay that's kind of fucking with us. I know. I feel like Ronnie, you are on a five second delay of some sort. Academy is a new scripted podcast that follows Ava Richards, played by HBO's Industries, Myhala Herald, a brilliant scholarship student who has to quickly adapt to her newfound eat or be eaten world. Ava's ambitions take hold and her small-town values break in hopes of becoming the first scholarship student to make The List, Bishop Gray's all-coveted academic top 10, curated by the headmaster himself.
Starting point is 00:30:56 But after realizing she has no chance at The List on her own, she reluctantly accepts an invitation to a secret underground society that pulls the strings on campus life and academic success. If she bends to their will, she'll have everything she's ever dreamed of. But at what cost? Academy takes you into the world of a cutthroat private school where power, money, and sex collide in a game of life and death. Follow Academy on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of Academy early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. What do most people think about when they hear the words Black History? Rosa Parks, Reconstruction, MLK, February, Black History Month.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Exactly, exactly. There are so many stories of Black History that we just are not really talking about or thinking about, especially outside of February. And we are about to flip the script on all of that. Because on this show, you're going to hear a little less. In August 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. And a little bit more. She is a heroine to some. As a fighter for black rights, she is a villain to others.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Follow Black History for Real on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen everywhere on February 5th. Or you can listen early and ad-free on Wondery Plus starting January 29th. Join Wondery Plus on the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Black is beautiful. See? Look. Well, you were delayed before, and now it switched to me. No, I think actually I was never delayed. You were delayed before, and now it switched to me.
Starting point is 00:32:39 No, no, I think I was never delayed. I think you were delayed all along. I'm perfect. Matt's perfect. He's a perfect little bumblebee. Whatever. Thank you. never delayed i think you were delayed all along i'm perfect matt's perfect he's a perfect little bumblebee whatever um so i'd like to take this moment in the middle of the show to say thank you to time warner and to google today both of whom have fucked us over so time warner fuck off and google you can go fuck yourself too and all of you can join jill's erin for a lovely lunch of a deep fried hot dog on Shut Up Mountain, you motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I would actually like a deep fried hot dog so please take that off of Shut Up Mountain. Ew. Anybody that eats meat that has been encased by flesh is disgusting. Well, first of all, pork is not allowed by your religion. Pork is not allowed by your real religion
Starting point is 00:33:23 and deep fried things are not allowed by your gay religion. So stop. Have you ever heard Have you ever heard of a beef, all beef, natural hot dog? Hebrew National. Thank you very much. Case closed. And I had a hot dog just yesterday. Thank you very much. You know that
Starting point is 00:33:39 bastard is not serving safe beef hot dogs so you can eat them. He is serving the cheapest $0.99 store hot dogs he can find. I know. If you're wondering where all the dogs on The Real Housewives of New Jersey went, they're in the hot dogs. They're in Jimmy Drees. It's like that scene in Naked Gun when the guy falls in the vat for the hot dog bat,
Starting point is 00:34:00 and then they're at the baseball game and they pull a finger out of the hot dog. And Joanna Prupa tries to save them all before they become food for Ben. That's right. I'll eat them all. I'll eat them all. Nicole Yon-Ran is talking about those drinks, the black-flavored water. What were those flavors? That was disgusting.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And I love that no one, all the people who were supporting them, they're there to be nice to them. Like, yeah, even drink them. Listen, this is like the year 2013. It's not 1988. You don't have you don't flavor your water fruit punch. OK, like this is this is not what you're trying to do. Right. The makers of Capri Sun got that down pat in the 80s. Thank you very much. So stop pretending
Starting point is 00:34:48 to be Capri Sun. You have to know some basic branding. I think these days you've got to call it something like Guava Mango Cocktail or something like that. But you don't call it Fruit Punch. You call it a Bloody Piggy. I would
Starting point is 00:35:04 drink a Bloody Piggy before I drank BLK food punch. I'm reading all the stuff about the best part of this 90-minute spectacular, which was the interview of Joe and Teresa on Watch What Happened. Well, are we already fast-forwarding? You can just skip past everything. Is there more? What else happened? Caroline cried.
Starting point is 00:35:27 People fought. There was a whole conversation with Joe and his sister where she squeaked about how she loved him. And then he cried. And they both cried together. And we were left with the illusion of closure and that they were all moving forward for the first time ever, which we know is a lot. Well, it's like the fifth time ever ever they've had this conversation a million times and why isn't anybody ever calling joe out on being an obvious alcoholic with rage issues all he does is get drunk and throw shit how is that okay like why is everyone just okay with that all the time because he's always getting
Starting point is 00:36:00 pushed to that limit but i mean listen if you had a brick wall as your sister i think you two would be throwing things and going resorting to the drink so i give him a pass well he's disgusting um yeah i don't i don't know we've talked about their stupid issues so many times i have nothing to say about them then jacqueline every time her son comes in she starts crying so we saw another one of those yeah that's it right i mean kathy didn't do shit all rich did the whole time was go yeah what'd you think about that joe well he had nothing to do that's true i guess nothing really happened which is the theme of the season and i'll tell you one thing when the watch what happens special started up i got about three minutes in before I just full-on passed out.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Really? Because I actually enjoyed the chat with Teresa and Joe way more than I enjoyed the season finale. Well, tell me about it because I'm telling you I really totally passed out. It was amazing. I mean, it was amazing. First, go ahead, Matty. I was just going to say I'm convinced that they are paying them a fortune because that is not part of theresa's contract and um the ratings for it were great um as ratings for new jersey typically are but the ratings for this were awesome and i mean do
Starting point is 00:37:17 you i mean ronnie don't you think that they're paying them a fortune to come there and like just dish on all of their tragedies? I think it's, yeah, they probably get a little money. I mean, right now they need all they can get. And also they want to clear their name. They're obviously so stupid that they can be talked into doing or saying anything. They're so dumb for showing up there because they look more guilty than ever. All they did was sit up there and lie, lie, lie about stuff that has been in magazines and has been on the show.
Starting point is 00:37:46 One of them, Nicole, is saying my favorite thing was that Joe said to Andy was we claimed innocence for a reason. If not, we would have pled out. You did plead out, Dodo. They rejected it because they have such a strong case against you. You know, they just kept saying things. What? I don't know what the charges are. I don't know what the charges are. I don't even understand the charges. And Andy's like, really? You don't understand the charges? And Teresa's like, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:12 What? What? I don't understand. Do you have them? Do you have them written there? And Andy's like, blackmail, extortion, fraud, bank fraud, mail fraud, carnival fraud, not getting your oil check, citizenship status, not signing up for – it's like every crime that you could ever commit, she's like, oh, okay. Okay, devil's advocate here for a second. I cannot believe that I'm going to actually say this because I hate Teresa, not as much as I hate Tamara.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Um, but she is so dumb, Ronnie. She cannot pronounce the word texts properly. Do you really think that she does know what bank fraud is? Because there's no way this woman knows how to even turn on a fucking calculator. She probably thinks she does. She probably doesn't know the difference between fraud and frost. She's like, what? So sometimes it gets a little cold on the bank and that's what happens. You get a little frost.
Starting point is 00:39:02 There's nothing wrong with frost. Not illegal to have frost in a bank. Oh my okay number one you're hilarious she's like fraud is a genius you can't argue with fraud he's one of the smartest people that ever walked in the world that ever walked in the world i'm gonna send him a text this is right now and apologize to you being rude to fraud yo you know what uh i really learned a lot about myself from all the learnings of fraud fraud taught us a lot about psychiatry and psychologists and stuff so you know what? I really learned a lot about myself from all the learnings of fraud. Fraud taught us a lot about psychiatry and psychologists and stuff. So, you know, I think for me to have bank fraud is like sort of a fraudian slip for myself, which I think is cool. And, you know, I have to keep it cleansed this year. to the point, which is she is too dumb to know what is going on. Don't you think that her husband is really the
Starting point is 00:39:46 problem? And he probably just pushed a lot of documents in front of her. She signed them. Now she's in trouble. And truthfully, if she were to save her own ass, she should divorce her husband and expose him and say, this is a dude who made me sign my life away. I have no idea what was going on.
Starting point is 00:40:01 He is the problem. And then I might have some more respect for her and she could move on with her kids. She'll be like the Italian Blue Jasmine. I have no idea what was going on. He is the problem. And then I might have some more respect for her and she could move on with her kids. She'll be like the Italian Blue Jasmine. I mean, Matthew, listen to yourself. Listen to yourself, Matthew. All right, look back at all the shit she's done. In the first or second year, Joe had
Starting point is 00:40:18 that DUI. I think it was the second year because I actually saw this episode. He gets a DUI. I wasn't drinking. I was just you know, I got a DUI and I got stressed out so I came back to the house and had a couple drinks and then the police came stupid of course he was like everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie the second year they were filing for bankruptcy for millions I mean millions of like 11 million dollars wasn't it it was like a humongous amount that they were basically asking the court to say oh well we well, we don't have to pay back this $11 million to people because we're bankrupt or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:48 So they robbed, basically robbed those people. And in order to declare bankruptcy, they had to say all of these different things, one of which was that Teresa didn't have a job or that she was like a secretary or something to Joe. And that was her job. Oh, no, that was for the bank loan. To get the bank loan, she had to say she was a secretary, which she wasn't. She didn't have a job.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And then for the next thing, it's just all these lies. Of course she's a liar. And he told her. He was like, honey, you gotta fucking tell a lie. You know, just tell them this. And she's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And listen, she tells herself lies too. So she would probably say, I didn't know nothing. I had no idea what's going on because she actually is. But that's a lie. But it's a lie she's told herself, and she actually believes it. I mean, she's just a crazy woman with no foresight. And she knows what bankruptcy is. She knows that if you're declaring bankruptcy, you're supposed to have zero money.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And she's walking around in this huge mansion spending all this money on clothes we see joe handing out cash to everybody on the air i mean they're just fucking morons and they're burglars like i'm not gonna stick up for theresa for that she's a burglar she stole money when you're a tv star you can't wear the same outfit twice oh my god that was hilarious i cannot believe she say that she said that on the thing joe said that they had to go out and buy him a ton of new clothes and her new clothes because she can as a tv star you cannot wear the same outfit twice and then what was her response thanks honey like oh my god you two are so
Starting point is 00:42:22 but you know what's so funny? These idiots, they don't realize, okay, so you don't want to be seen on camera in the same outfit. But what happens is you get filmed doing these interviews, and those interviews get spliced through every show throughout the entire season. So in many ways, you're seen in the same outfit on multiple, multiple episodes. So why would you – they're so stupid. Stupid people. Stupid, stupid stupid stupid people by the end of the episode i was convinced that they are both going to jail now i don't think that she should go to jail for as long as joe is but i mean ronnie didn't you kind of get like it was like somber not somber because we're not going to cry for them but
Starting point is 00:43:02 it felt really weird in that clubhouse with andy cohen like andy convinced me that they are going to jail well i mean there's a those are so many charges and we okay there's two good points made on facebook one of them is well the other charge is joe's uh drive you know his fake license thing that's not even included in all of this and he's been driving yeah we've seen him driving on camera. I don't understand how he's able to drive when he's got that whole... I mean, that's the thing. It's like, if it's not one thing, it's another. I mean, it's beyond just this fraud.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I mean, it's beyond the DUI. It's that he also walked into a DMV and tried to get a license with his brother's picture. into a DMV and tried to get a license with his brother's picture. I mean, that's just such blatant, ridiculous and unnecessary fraud right there. That's all they do. Stupid.
Starting point is 00:43:53 How disgusting is Bravo, though? Because, you guys, they are clearly fast-tracking the next season. I mean, that's why they need to lock in this cast, because they want to film all of the shit that goes down with Teresa and Joe, And I believe that they said that the trial is set for sometime in February. I feel like it's like right around Valentine's day, which is awesome. But, um, Bravo is taking advantage of them. Not that they don't
Starting point is 00:44:15 take advantage of all of these women and, you know, just ruin their lives for the sake of ratings. But how do you feel about them fast tracking the season to include all of this stuff? I mean, is that what's going to hook us for one more year on this shitty cast? I think that's good. I like that. I don't like it because Teresa's off-limits. Everyone has to be nice to Teresa, which I don't like. Teresa's a villain, and people need to be telling her off. And Teresa's best when she's back to the corner with the crazy blink.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Also, I feel like a lot of this is going to be – I think Andy likes Teresa, and I think that he's going – I think that the show likes Teresa. I mean, obviously. She's the crown jewel. She is the crown jewel of the show. She's the one that deserves the spinoff. Are you kidding me? So this is going to all be that we're supposed to feel sorry for Teresa. This is going to be a Teresa pity year. We're not going to have Caroline, thank Jesus. But we don't know who we're going to all be that we're supposed to feel sorry for Teresa. This is going to be a Teresa pity year. We're not going to have Caroline, thank Jesus.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But, you know, we don't know who we're going to have yet. Now, if we have some trashy-ass hookers, like if they get Jan on that show and Penny and all these bottom feeders, it's going to be disgusting to watch, but it's going to be super fun. I just want to add real quick that Derek said on Facebook, you know that Teresa was lying through the whole interview because of that blink. You're right. You're right. We're not realizing that the blink and the squeak squawk are the dead giveaways for that girl. I have all the Texas's right here.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That's my list of ingredients. I mean, you guys, the other thing is... Finds us mad. How funny was it that's my list of ingredients is i mean you guys the other thing is don't find this match um how funny was it where andy cone was like you know he's trying to play this role you know he deserves a an oscar because he's trying to play this role where he's buddies with her and he really cares because the ratings matter and if theresa goes to jail that might hurt you know the franchise but then he turns around and he's like, so Teresa, how do you think you'll, you'll fare in jail? Like that.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I mean, what kind of question is that? You know, I, I'm just excited for when she finally goes to jail and then Andy Cohen is up in his little clubhouse and he's like, Hey, they just went to jail. Let's do, let's see the remix of them going, getting carted off in handcuffs. That's going to be like 10 years, 10 years, 10 years, 10 years, guilty, guilty. And he'll be like smiling. He's like, tonight's drinking game is convicted.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Mazel of the day, Orange. Who doesn't love Orange? The hero pouring Orange Campari is Dina Manzo. Anyway, we have a lot of other shows to talk about. So is there any last thoughts? Last thoughts, Matt? I hated this season. I really think that I am excited for Atlanta to come back,
Starting point is 00:46:53 and I don't care about Jersey. That's how I feel. The end. Okay, let's move on to Miami. I'd just like to point out before we start with Miami that Miami was terrible and nothing happened, and we also really need to talk about the other shows this week because we did not talk about them last week.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And there's a lot of bullshit that needs to be said. That's why we're moving ahead. We are rolling forward. Miami, Miami, Miami. The star of Miami is clearly Mama Elsa. She was on TV for the first time in a very long time. She came home from the hospital. She thought that there was a piece of fish in her glass, and it was TV gold, people.
Starting point is 00:47:27 TV gold. It was fantastic. Mama Elsa is like no one else. She's great. I was actually happy to see her as lucid as she was. And I know it's sort of like an oxymoron to say lucid with Mama Elsa, but seriously, since she did have a stroke, I was afraid she'd be very sort of catatonic and she was just as funny as always I thought it was also cool to kind of see Mary Sol's father pop up and to look back through that photo album and I will say this mama Elsa was kind of like a looker for the early 80s and
Starting point is 00:47:58 then that plastic surgery just took her to hell yeah well it's unfortunate did you ever get the sense looking at Marisol's father that he may have possibly built Jurassic Park at some point in his life? That is definitely Richard Attenborough, and I was looking for an amber ring with a little bug in it. You know, I was like, I'm just waiting for a velociraptor
Starting point is 00:48:17 just to burst onto Star Island. Tear it down! That's a velociraptor! It must have heard me laugh! Velociraptor's like, where's the bird? How funny is that? I shouldn't do that today because I've already pissed people off
Starting point is 00:48:33 with my screech. Sorry, everybody! My Teresa will screech. By the way, there was... I can't do it today. I need to warm up before this show. I'm like... I'm going to go through some other bullet points here. I love how, by the way, I can't do it today. I need to warm up before the show. Okay, I'm going to go through some other bullet points here. I love how, by the way, every Miami recap just winds up me and Ronnie doing crazy noises. Sit down! Shut up! Leave!
Starting point is 00:48:59 How could I have? Okay, okay, okay. I hate the recap. The two of you are the ones who complain about this going too long because we've been trying to talk. I do say to Flores, I'm going to invoice her for him.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Wait a second, Matt. Every single time I say, so let's move on to another show, you say, wait, wait, wait. I have something left to say about this one show. And then it's another five minutes talking about someone's button that was askew. I like attention to detail. matt matt okay i'm gonna bring up another uh yeah matt another
Starting point is 00:49:32 topic that that gets you guys riled up here um i'm i'm actually team alexia um i feel bad for this woman i actually think that she's trying to be a good mother and her son is just an asshole yeah i feel bad for her too i have to say i like alexia i think she's i think she's trying to be a good mother, and her son is just an asshole. Yeah, I feel bad for her, too. I like Alexia. I think she's generally good hearted, but I think a little dumb, a little dumb. She sort of listens to the wrong person at all times. I mean, you can't be that smart if you're going to marry a drug lord. I mean, she's basically a little bank fraud away from being Teresa.
Starting point is 00:49:59 That was a very smart move on her part. Little did she know that the fact that she was formerly married to a crook, that is the reason why she's on this show, Ben. That's why she has any money. That's true, too, actually. I take it all back. I like Alexia's mom. I do find Alexia's mom to be a sophisticated Spanish lady,
Starting point is 00:50:19 sitting down in her chairs with her blazers and whatnot. I love that when you say sophisticated Spanish lady, it forces you to shimmy in your seat it does because i feel like that's what she'd be doing if she could if she could but she can't because she's a lump on a log yeah i thought she was so great first of all this is how she sits down she's like like all totally stiff and she's like listen
Starting point is 00:50:46 your father was considered a loser I don't want you to identify so much that you are a loser too dear artists who are watching our show and are listening to our podcast I would really love somebody to create an Emmy I'm looking at you
Starting point is 00:51:04 I would really like a Spanish Jabba the Hutt female. Somebody needs to make that happen. Today we will be talking about you, Peter, and the salad that you just ordered, and why you ordered this. Buttermilk dressing becomes buttermilk thighs. Buttermilk dressing becomes buttermilk thighs. Today, Peter, we are going to talk about your mother and why she never taught you to put your napkin in your lap at the restaurant, just like now.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Today, Peter, you have finally gotten to the point that we can go buy you a bra. Grandma's going to take you. Forever 21. you are what we call you are what we call a loser and i am showing you this this restaurant because i know you will never be here again because all you do is eat from 7 of 11. 7 of 11? By the way, I love when Mama Elsa was like, I'm not wearing pajamas. I think it's really, I mean, I'm so
Starting point is 00:52:18 glad they put her on TV, but that was a little too soon. I think she needed a few more weeks to realize that those were pajamas. Pajamas. Pajamas. Pajamas! Meanwhile, our girl Leah was not on the episode at all, by the way. Did you notice that?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Well, no one will talk to her. No one will speak to her. It sucks, but, I mean, there's no one to be on it with. Joanna's going to pretend she has sexual issues with her gay husband, and Lisa's, you know, got to hang out, I guess, with her. Weird.
Starting point is 00:52:50 He's getting life over, whatever. She's like, now he finally knows what it feels like to have plastic surgery. I'm like, listen, Lisa. Yeah, sorry, honey. This is not his first procedure, okay? That hair is not natural, and neither is that skin tossedness.
Starting point is 00:53:10 It did look like he had—I've never had lipo, and I've considered it many a time, but it did look like he had a gunshot wound to the abdomen. It looked like he had been soaking in grape soda. And the armpit. He had, like, a big thing in the armpit, too. I guess they did that all over. I need some money. funny are like dumb straight lazy straight dudes like she looks under the covers and she's like you're sleeping in a pool of blood
Starting point is 00:53:31 and he's like it's fine yeah that was a really disturbing moment in the show by the way you're sleeping in blood let me i thought it was kind of funny though that she kept poking and prodding him she was just not gonna let that go she was, the camera's here. I need a storyline. I'm going to beat up my husband who's bruised from head to toe. Yeah. I felt bad for them this week because, again, it was another week where they were just all so desperate
Starting point is 00:53:52 for something to do, and it was just all terrible. Like, Adriana and Joanna making up. I mean, boring. Then Adriana... It's just Adriana's bachelorette party. Like, who cares? There's not a stripper.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Nothing's going on. It's like you've got five hags in one of the worst trannies I've ever seen. Like, come on. The last time I saw a party look as boring as that was the time that Brianna went to Las Vegas on Orange County with her friend. And the two of them sat at a table and smoked from a hookah in an empty casino. They were also staying off the strip exactly this was this was the equivalent of that you're in miami and this is the best you can do for a bachelor party and by the way i wanted i want to specify that i'm calling lauren the worst tranny
Starting point is 00:54:35 ever not because of how she looks because she does things like this oh she she said that to you hello is this passive aggressive this isive? This is me, Lauren. I know. She's like, somewhere she found all the rejected jokes from Sex and the City from 1998, and she's like, I'm going to make it my material. Yeah, they're not even jokes. She just says things in, like, a gay guy voice, and everyone starts laughing. She's like, oh, my God, that girl is stick as a pen.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I'm going to call her a Beck. She is terrifying on all levels and she really needs to get that skin sandblasted. What is this pink martini? I feel so cosmopolitan.
Starting point is 00:55:22 That was actually funny though. The sad thing is that she makes all the stupid puns that I know that I probably would make on a daily basis. Exactly. So it's probably just Ben. It's Ben in a blonde wig. I think it's different because Ben, you actually act kind of like a straight guy because you were straight for so long. So you've still got straightness about you.
Starting point is 00:55:39 He's just like, you know that bar, the Gold Coast here? Never been. Never been. It's on Santa Monica, here in Santa Monica? Never been, never been. It's on Santa Monica, not in Santa Monica. But in West Hollywood, there's this bar. It's called the Old Coast, the Old Coast. It's called the Gross Coast. Yeah, but she burned out a long time ago, girl. The Old Coast, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And in there, you know, God bless them. They're nice, and I love going there. But you know why I love going there? Because I feel like Katy Perry in there. I feel like the like the youngest well i guess she's not as young and fresh maybe i should say miley cyrus i feel so young and fresh but she's like one of those old queens at the gold coast who's like hey what'd you order just a martini oh you're gonna get wasted it's like her with her penis cut off now i don't know about you guys but sorry i got sidetracked when when adriana i got side trammied
Starting point is 00:56:33 when her was when adriana burned her wedding dress it actually honestly it kind of offended me because i'm like you know here's a dress here's a dress that you fake bought for your fake wedding which clearly you bought it probably about two weeks ago from david's bridal just and then said oh i've been holding on to this for all these years ever since my wedding got canceled but i was like that dress had its tags on ben that could have gone to a very that could have gone to a happy quinceanera well i honestly i really felt like my wedding got canceled we canceled um the wedding was off to my standard canceled they got canceled they got canceled i had an empanada makes me laugh every time so but here's the thing though those wedding dresses are not cheap and it's like I felt bad because she could have donated it.
Starting point is 00:57:26 She could have given it to one of those wedding dress, I think, like thrift shops or secondhand wedding gown things. Or Chanel from Long Island Princesses. I know. Either way, it was just such a waste. I know that one. Oh, yeah. I don't know. It actually really offended me.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I was like, you're burning your wedding dress that was a fake wedding dress. Not a fake wedding. Just to show something. Yeah, but she was probably burning it just because you know Leah bought it. She was probably doing it just to piss off. Oh, and by the way, to get back to Adriana and Joanna making up,
Starting point is 00:58:00 I totally knew as soon as they make up, they're going to make up because Adriana has a new enemy, and she's going to somehow twist this into Leah is the problem. And then, so then Adriana was like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:11 the real problem started when Leah brought Joe Francis to your house. I'm like, don't you be starting like that. Don't act like Joe Francis is the evil. When you were friends with Joe Francis, don't try to turn Joanna against Leah. Like you're the one who made the crazy lie adriana sorry yeah adriana just you know that's and that's why she's a good housewife because she's just so crazy she believes her own bullshit and she's nothing but a
Starting point is 00:58:36 psycho spreading you know she turned against any one of these girls and she practically did it's like that day that alexis said that she was she's going to go to the gala and they were all turned mean girl on her and just refused to speak to her and like brushed her off. And like, yeah, who does that? These women are all really, really horrible. And I would be OK if they were more fun to watch. But, oh, it's like, you know, like wiping up the blood off your trophy, you know, your old husband, weird looking husband. And nothing's appealing about this show. Right now, none of the storylines are fun.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Again, the best things were the old ladies. But it was better than last week. The old ladies got more lines. Yeah. I will also say, this week also featured the bonus of seeing Romaine Lettuce, not only shirtless,
Starting point is 00:59:24 but in glasses, which Joanna Cooper only shirtless but in glasses, which Joanna Cooper did not like him in glasses, but I thought it was hot. Anyone else? Yeah, he's really cute. He's really, really cute. Especially because this season he's getting like a cute seat. So cute. Oh, he's so, so cute.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Oh. Joanna. He's got real creepy. Something in my eye, Joanna. Joanna. Why's got real creepy. Joanna. What you do that for, Joanna? What you do that for, Joanna? I like when he said, this role-playing is stupid.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You want to go play the Wii? Yeah. Did he say that? Yeah, he wants to go play Wii. I mean, I know that none of these people why you do that for joanna why you do that for because you're not up to my standards he is hot and he's like cute this season too he's not like an asshole um first of all i was surprised that they didn't have um dr v come in um to be the sex therapist because they love to rotate those
Starting point is 01:00:26 people around but um did anybody else realize that exactly what she suggested was an episode of modern family from the second season with phil and claire at the bar yes it was yeah it was also the plot of a reese witherspoon movie didn't one of those movies start where her and her husband were like acting like they were on a blind date, and then you find out that they're really married, and it's like a... Things went what? Things went bad?
Starting point is 01:00:53 I love Bree Switzer. I feel like, wasn't it also sort of like the plot of True Lies, minus the nuclear warheads? Oh my god. God, that was the last time I think Jamieie lee curtis was really like spreading it on on the films now she's in those weird activia commercials and where's where's like hey everybody your sex symbol is now pooping regularly matt asked matt we can all sleep at
Starting point is 01:01:17 night the question of the podcast and where is tia carrera well she's on dancing the stars she's Where is Tia Carrera? Well, she's on Dance of the Stars. Yeah, I'm sure that her music is more regular, too. Tia Carrera, more like Tia Nowhere. Ballroom, please. Okay, what else happened on Stupid Miami? Why you do that, Tia Carrera?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Tia Carrera, why you do that? Tia Carrera, Tia Carrera, why you do that? Tia Carrera, sit down, shut up, or leave the ballroom. What is that? Man. I wanted to tear it down. I hate him. Send you an invoice. I hate him. I'm not wearing your pajamas. Pajamas. No UK woman wear pajamas.
Starting point is 01:02:20 The problem with you, Ersa, is that your pajamas are considered to be like loser pajamas. Didn't you like that she wanted Marisol to... When my son was young... Okay, never mind. I'm done. Ronnie's on a delay, Matt. That's all. Yeah. When you was young, I didn't realize it was my responsibility to tell you your father was in prison.
Starting point is 01:02:43 You know, like, who am I supposed to say? Like, I thought it was the best thing for me at that time. You know, I loved your father. I loved your father so much. But I had to leave. I had to leave your father. I'm sorry. That is just what I had to do.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And I hope you're like, I just want you to be happy. I just want you all to be happy. I just want you to be happy. Now here's a bottle of vodka. Go drive home. Go kick a taxi. Because if it makes you happy, kick a taxi. That's all I want vodka. Go drive home. Go kick a taxi. If it makes you happy, kick a taxi.
Starting point is 01:03:06 That's all I want for me to be happy. And if it means he has to kick a taxi, then he has to do that. That's all I want for him. That's all that Roman and I want for him. With the crazy people of Miami. I try so hard. I try so hard.
Starting point is 01:03:19 He loves photography. He loves photography. I'm kicking a taxi. I try so hard. All right, let's move on from Miami, please. I hate it and wish it was dead right now. Although, that said, I'm going to be on Leah Black's recast next Monday night, her after show, right after the show, Eastern time. And I'll post that Monday afternoon so you guys can find it, okay, and come watch it and talk to us.
Starting point is 01:03:43 It'll be Amy Phillips, me, Leah, and some tranny. I don't know. Are you two, Ben? No, no. I'm not scheduled anytime new. So you'll be after me then. They rotate us out like a couple of whores. I know. The last time I was on, it was me,
Starting point is 01:04:00 Leah, Leah's drag queen friend, James, and this random couple, this older couple. And I really had no idea what was going on. I am so glad that I am not invited to these things because if I were on that, it would be serious. I would just be very, very, very mean. Well, you know this horrible delay that we have on this episode?
Starting point is 01:04:20 It's like that every... On Spreecast, it's just like that. That's the way it is. And it's really rough because one person will say something and there's like 10 people on it one time and then everyone stops at once it's like trying to go through an intersection where everyone
Starting point is 01:04:33 at the stop sign it's like an LA store you know everyone stops and everyone goes at once and crashes kind of reminds me of that podcast we did that one time where I pretended to have technical difficulties because I got so pissed off that we were including those other people that i shut my computer and was like fuck this i'm done yeah it's like that yeah but with leah in a turban so it's fun yeah um and also we got to do with lance bass and his fiance turkey and turkey was so fine that i could i just
Starting point is 01:04:58 kept staring at the screen i was like you're so cute turkey and i was on it like to be i was on it for two seconds because I would start talking, and the producer, she kept on taking me off the screen. I was like, okay, bye, Lance, bye, Lance. And me too. They were switching us out like a couple of whores. That's what I'm saying. But they'd switch us out like mid-sentence.
Starting point is 01:05:15 So we'd be like, so here's my question for everyone. And all of a sudden you see your screen coming up. You're like, wait, wait, my question. Prostitution. Yeah, she wasn't paying very much attention to that part of it but yeah um that was really hilarious okay can we talk about okay now we're gonna talk about nini we're talking okay i watched i watched nini nini okay i did good for you that was your first time so you go first yeah um so i saw the most recent episode which aired exactly a week ago um and that was when uh first marlo was on i don't know if she's been on already but like marlo was on and
Starting point is 01:05:52 marlo got into a fight with this woman diana and what i liked about it was that the producers for once didn't over dramatize the fight they just had this fight and then he was like diana diana and that's you know you're sort of sitting here like this girl's getting all fussy and marlo's getting fussy but it's sort of like light-hearted um and then there was this big fight with the the kids um and that was entertaining too and um i don't know i i enjoyed it more than i thought i would um because nini is one of the only housewives that is deserving of her own spinoff because she can actually hold an hour programming on her own. She can. She actually
Starting point is 01:06:27 can, believe it or not. I know, I was shocked when I said it last week, but I'm totally into this show and can we just talk about Greg's children for a minute? Sure. Holy shit. That whole fight was something else. Wow. I mean, that was a typical, that's where Nini, I was going to say to Ben when he was
Starting point is 01:06:43 talking about the argument with the bridesmaid and stuff, I mean, Nini is typical, that's where Nini, I was going to say to Ben when he was talking about the argument with the bridesmaid and stuff. I mean, Nini is the star of this one. She's not fighting for attention. It's all about her. So she's not according to the normal Nini antics. She's actually trying to be a good person, which is weird to watch. So the bridesmaid's things is very funny. But this family thing, she just turns straight up straight up meaning again where she wouldn't let
Starting point is 01:07:05 anybody say anything all she did was yap yap yap oh don't you check me in my house oh damn no and I know you didn't look at me like that and I know you didn't go to the radio station I know I was like oh my God you know that she is down it was like she doesn't actually argue well of yell you know but she knows how to yell an argument you get me in an argument because you can't get a word in edge but she knows she can do a filibuster like no one else. It's like the two of you are Nini and I'm just me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Oh, poor Matt. There needs to be a Bravo show called Poor Matt, and then we can all call in each week and be like, this is why I feel bad for Matt today. Matt gets to be on his podcast. Can Tia Carrera be my sidekick?
Starting point is 01:07:47 Matt is just too thin and adorable. Tia Carrera is the band leader. Oh, Matt! She's my band leader? Well, actually, she could just sing Ballroom Blitz over and over and over again. And then you could look at her and think of Dreamweaver. Oh, my God. That's my new cell phone game.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Ballroom Blitz. People in the ballroom. Ronnie,nie i hate your delay i'm putting it out here i'm putting it out here ronnie i hate that you're on this weird five second delay because you keep on commenting things like five seconds later and it's very disorienting i don't have him on a delay i have you both live i'm sorry my problem now is that you're good now i think it it switched to Ben. Ronnie, you're a robot, buddy. Ronnie's a robot.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Robots are on delay automatically. Speak, Ronnie. Yeah, he's a robot. Robot. Robot. Robot. Robot. I think this is...
Starting point is 01:08:42 If you're going to do that, at least do a robot dance. You have to do a robot dance with that. To people of the internet, I'm sorry. A message. People of the internet. We apologize, especially people on audio.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I think this is a sign that we have to start going back to Skype. Oh, bye. There goes Ronnie. Well, maybe now we'll all be on the same page when he comes back. Oh, wait, let me invite this poor guy back into this. Okay, I can do this for about three more minutes because he's getting old.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Okay, Ronnie, let's get him back into this show. So anyway, so Nini, I liked I Dream of Nini. I, you know, Greg annoys me. I'll be frank. I think that think that yeah i mean i don't really really annoying i don't really get why she's with him i mean i understand that she needed his money when she was poe but like yeah now is she just afraid of dating like i mean she could look she is a moose no doubt but she has money and she's powerful and she's famous she could at least date tyler perry she could listen she's got booty, and it doesn't matter what your face
Starting point is 01:09:45 looks like if you've got a booty for certain guys. And she could probably do quite well if she wanted to. Welcome back, Ronnie. Whatever, whatever. Robot. Still robot. Can you hear me? Robot. Still robot. Okay, just ignore me. I'll just listen to you guys.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Okay, so... We have a robot listening to us. So here's the thing with Greg. I feel like he's actually genuinely a stupid person. I think he's a very stupid man, right? Well, look at the way that he interacts with his children. Yeah. And he's like a shyster, too.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I feel like everything he says is full-on bullshit. You know, when he's like the goal my goal now is to get the whole family together i'm like no your goal now is to be back on tv and earning residuals and all that you have that's all and i feel bad for his kids and i did you did you notice also um at the end of the episode did you see that it's nini leaks productions i did that was what really that was the thing that really stuck in my mind after the first episode. Again, I liked it, and I like NeNe,
Starting point is 01:10:50 and I think that she makes for good TV, but it's just like they're beating us over the head with how fake this is and how it's just all a money-making scheme for these people. Yeah, absolutely. Especially Greg. I just really don't
Starting point is 01:11:04 buy his motivations. To me, he's a total shyster. What do you think of his kids? His kids, they make for good TV. They do. I mean, I want to hear and see more from them. I guess we'll find out. I think it's actually the next episode is airing right now as we speak.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I think it's just about to start. But, yeah, I'll tune in. I'll'll see how this works out there's a lot of screaming which i appreciate now do you think um that nini should have a newer friend be a bridesmaid um no no i think bridesmaids are meant for people to go back go. How long do you have to know someone before you can be invited to be a bridesmaid or a best or a groomsman? Well, I mean, I'm not a category expert, but I like to
Starting point is 01:11:54 make bold statements, and I say minimum five years. Well, I say for your first wedding, maybe, but for your, like, third, and you're, like, marrying an old guy again for the second time, those rules don't apply and no one's going to have to bring you a fucking gift either while we're at it. Robot.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Ronnie, what's wrong with your connection? I don't know. Okay, I'm going to just continue watching you guys and get out of the scene. I'll see you next time. Why don't you put yourself on mute and then add what you have to say on the chat on the side. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Okay. Ronnie's still here with us. And you can give us a thumbs up or thumbs down. So anyway, so we were talking about – so I don't think you have to be five years to be a president. What if you're like a roommate to someone? What if you're like living – I think two years is good. I think two years is a good amount of time. Well, I don't know i mean this is like well how long before you can call somebody your girlfriend
Starting point is 01:12:50 or like everybody has different rules for everything and you know i don't think well never mind i'm just gonna notice did you more importantly did you notice very casually nini mentioned that the former lead singer of on the will be one of her bridesmaids. Right, which means Don Richardson? No, Don Robert Robinson. Don Richards is... I don't know who Don Richards is. You know what? No, Don Richard... Maybe she was on a different line. Don Richard, I think, was a former member of Danity Kane.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Oh. And Don Robinson was in En Vogue. And who's Sean Robinson? Is she like a reporter for Extra TV? Oh, and Don Robinson is in Invoke, and there's a Don that was on. And who's Shawn Robinson? Is she like a reporter for Extra TV? Yeah, Access. You know what? I think actually a different world. The character was named Don, but I forgot the actress's name.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Right. Don Lewis. Her name was Don Lewis, wasn't it? But then who's Donna Lewis? Didn't she sing, I love you always forever? Always forever, dear and far. Ronnie has now left. That makes me think of Emanuel Lewis, who is the star of TV's Webster.
Starting point is 01:13:53 And did you hear that Webster's dad recently died, George Papadopoulos? He did. He did die. No, his name's Papadopoulos. He's a former football player, right? Yes, but his character was George Papadopoulos. And then he would open the little grandfather clock, and Webster would pop out. And his real name was
Starting point is 01:14:07 like Larry Zunga or something like that? No, that's the guy who was also the co-host of American Gladiators with Mike Adamley. Oh, exactly. And American Gladiators, we had, was that someone named Torch on there? Or someone named Siren?
Starting point is 01:14:24 Oh, Siren was the deaf girl. Oh, but you know that there was the new American Gladiators with Hulk Hogan and Leila Ali. That is true. And Leila Ali, who has no relation to Tatiana Ali, who was on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. With Alfonso Ribeiro, who I cannot properly pronounce his last name.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Which was also on the NBC lineup, along with A Different World, The Dawn Circle Comes Together. Complete. I don't know. I enjoyed I Dream of Mimi, but I don't know if I had a huge amount to say about it. No, I'm just watching it. I'm enjoying it. I think that I'm probably enjoying it more because Tamara is now off the air,
Starting point is 01:15:02 and I don't care about her OC wedding. I'll tell you what else I watched this week. I watched the season, perhaps, series finale of Eat, Drink, Love. Did you watch that? You are alone, dude. I gave up after four episodes. I gave up a while ago, too, and then I came back for this ending. And I have to say, the season finale epitomized what works and what didn't work about the show, which is that the first, like, ten minutes were super catty and full of, like, all the promise and potential that the show seemed to have.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I was just going to say this. It was, like, you know, this Lindsay mixologist girl started up with Cat O'Dell, and they were all being catty. Like, I don't know if I can support an event, and I don't know if I can do this. and they were all being catty like well i don't know if i i don't know if i can support an event and i don't know if i could do this and they were all talking back and forth and i was like oh i was like oh you know i forgot how catty the show can be and how great it can be and then you know the rest of the episode just sort of like fell into this slow like nina was doing a pop-up and she spent the whole episode being like, yo, I'm too tired for this fucking shit, yo. I can't do this, yo. It's so hard for me to do this, yo.
Starting point is 01:16:10 My boys are in there working, yo. I can't do this pop-up, yo. And Marcel was there. I do love Marcel, and that's why it's still on my DVR, because I will enjoy that on the late shift. He always did. He's my little Wolverine. No, but he looks better than he late shift. He always did. He's my little Wolverine. No, but he looks better than he ever has. He somehow filled out a little bit.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Marcel looked good. Ben, will you be watching? Are you excited? I'm actually really excited for the season premiere of Top Chef New Orleans. Oh, I'm very excited for that. And I have to say, you guys were shooting on Top Chef Masters. I loved the season. I heard from some other friends that this was guys were shooting on Top Chef Masters. I loved the season.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I heard from some other friends that this was the best season of Top Chef Masters. Yeah, it was good casting. Because last year the casting was very dull. Maybe even the year before that too. This year I was in it. I liked the chefs. They cooked a finale meal that James Ostlund said was the best it ever had on the show. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Yeah. I love James Ostlund. was the best it ever had on the show. I love James Ostlund. He's a great judge. Having Gail Simmons around always makes me happy. I don't like Curtis Stone that much. Ronnie's back. Curtis Stone is not worthy of any TV screen. Any reason to bring Gail back makes me happy.
Starting point is 01:17:21 But like you said, it's all about casting, and I'm really hoping that Top Chef New Orleans brings a great cast. Hopefully they'll have a few less be um but like you said it's all about casting and i'm really hoping that top chef new orleans brings a great cast hopefully they'll have a few less um fork and knife tattoos because that makes me so fucking mad um no you're gonna get a bunch of ninas you're gonna get a bunch of ninas from eat drink love we'll be talking as if they're like i mean she literally was you think i'm joking when i'm saying yo i'm working so hard yo but that's actually the way she was talking on this finale. Oh, can you hear me now? Or am I still on? Yeah, yo,
Starting point is 01:17:47 we can hear you, yo. Oh my god. Okay, Nina, I can't believe you're doing this to me, yo. Get that camera away from me now, yo. I mean it, yo. That's not cool. I can't believe y'all don't like my food, yo. Yo, like my boys
Starting point is 01:18:04 are back here working on this, yo. She tries so hard to be straight. That is some little rich girl who's trying to be straight. Sorry, honey. You just a little rich girl. Be okay with it and spend a lot of money like most little rich girls and stop trying to get a blue-collar job to try and prove something to somebody. You don't have to prove anything to me, but stop saying yo so much. You're ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Stop it. anything to me but stop saying yo so much you're ridiculous one thing that i'm sad about with eat drink love is that i wish you were a bigger hit if only for the amount of cat odell gifts that it would have spawned because cat odell is always giving these looks that would be perfect for internet memes so like sorry people who are only listening you're missing me doing my Cat O'Dell face. Cat O'Dell is, I think that this is another Bravo show. That's a good face. I think that this is another Bravo show that they threw at us so quickly. And they were like, let's just make it about a bunch of food girls and follow them around with some cameras. And we'll see if we can put something together.
Starting point is 01:19:03 And they get in the editing room and they try and make it something but by the end it kind of knew what it was going to be at least it was better and i was entertained by the show i just think that there it's so shoddy the way that they greenlit like five million shows this year and they're all total crap i mean so far they've all been total crap even below deck which is coming back and did well don't you think bite your tongue you horrible person i became a below did well, don't you think? Bite your tongue, you horrible person. I became a Below Deck convert. I don't think Below Deck was crap. I hated that one. Okay, did you guys
Starting point is 01:19:31 talk about... We were talking about Top Chef Masters, actually, and also excitement for Top Chef New Orleans. We should really up our Top Chef coverage for this season. I'm in. We failed last season on that part. Well, because the cast was shit. No, I coverage for this season. I'm in. We failed last season on that part. Well, because the cast was shit.
Starting point is 01:19:47 No, I loved it last season. We talked a bit about it last year. Sure, we did talk about it. Well, we're going to make sure Top Chef gets nicely represented. I'm fully committed. I'm just not a Top Chef Masters person. I don't know why. Me too. I'm not into Masters.
Starting point is 01:20:02 It was good this season, I'm telling you. The guy who won, I loved him. He he was really adorable he's like the sweet gentle guy i liked him but he's like funny too i have to um announce to you guys that i have got to quit watching the new atlanta i can't i just can't okay ben what's your take because i cannot do it i can't do it i only i'm telling you I watch as much as I said I watched last week, and I can't. The only thing I like is that in the promos, Africa says, girl, bye. That's it.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Girl, bye. You guys talk about it for two seconds. I'm going to try to look through it. No, there's nothing to say. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it. Okay, well, I'm going to look up the ratings right now to see if it's going to bother us for the rest of time
Starting point is 01:20:38 or if the show's going to get canceled. So, stand by. That show is just so stupid. I hate the guy who thinks he's like this big music producer and that he's so fine and that everybody wants to sleep with him. And he shows up wearing T-shirts that say things like hot ham or whatever the hell his T-shirt said. I was like, really? You're like in your 30s. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Like grow up a little. I don't know. I just don't. I don't like anybody. Usually you have to like really like someone and really hate somebody. I don't like anybody on usually you have to like really like someone and really hate somebody i don't like anybody and i can't even really hate anybody because the girl who's trying to be the villain is she's just so young and stupid i don't know i think it's like that problem i had kind of with
Starting point is 01:21:16 gallery girls where they're so young i feel bad making fun of them you know there is nothing ever wrong with gallery girls so don't ever say that again yeah no i loved gallery girls but i remember saying while that show was on like i you i would just forgive them for everything like if they were really super mean behind each other's back i'd be like but they're 20 so it's okay the ones that i really have a have the trouble with are the old ladies who are still acting like that that's what i I have problems with. But like the young kids, I'm like, well,
Starting point is 01:21:46 they're thin and they're not on drugs and they've got a job. So, I mean, for all I care, they could be kicking old ladies in the street, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:57 I don't know. You guys. Atlanta. Yeah. That's a lot of posers on that show. What? Tell us that. I have really bad news.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Is it doing really well? I haven't even gotten to that yet, but I just looked at the ratings for the Real Housewives of Miami last night. And? Less than 700,000 viewers. That is down with Gallery Girls ratings.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Well, look, we've been the biggest cheerleaders I think on this show for Real Housewives of Miami. But the producers don't deliver, Ronnie, so we can't keep changing the show that is so boring week after week. Yeah, we can't just keep making ourselves do it. Well, it's good. The first few episodes of the season were good, but the past two or three have been unpopular. Damn, that is bad news.
Starting point is 01:22:38 That is bad ratings. Okay, keep going. I'm going to find Sunday night's ratings. Okay, keep going. I'm going to find Sunday night's ratings. It's a shame because I think that Real Housewives of Miami, even when dull, it's beautiful to look at. I love this world that Bravo is going into. How many shows about Atlanta can we possibly watch? No more, please. The answer is many.
Starting point is 01:22:58 But I like the Miami world, the Miami space that they're in. And I want the show to survive. I do, too. I just think, you know, it kind of has to be a team effort. These girls, they're on their third season, but it's basically like their second season because their first season kind of didn't count. Like, that was a mulligan. True, true.
Starting point is 01:23:18 So this is their second season, and their real second season was so good because there were so many women and they were all really going at it and this one they're just all being me so and look i'm not saying that leah's like perfect and doesn't deserve to get bitched at or whatever like she says a lot of snotty things too but it's just hard to watch all these women gang up on one woman because it makes them not interesting you know it's like now they're all up adriana's ass and she's horrible. Why would you choose that woman's side?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Just because she's the scariest. And they needed to have a new cast member. Plus, Joanna has not been drinking this season, and as a result, she hasn't been crazy. We've also missed Marta. Marta made for good TV as well. Marisol is on a lot, even though she's not a real housewife. She is basically a real housewife.
Starting point is 01:24:08 They just must have cut out all the little parts where she's like, I'm Marisol. They cut all the posing parts, but she's still a main housewife. She's boring as hell. Adriana's boring as hell, because she's not really fighting with anybody, except Leah, and Leah won't fight back.
Starting point is 01:24:23 They shouldn't have gotten rid of Karen Sierra. They should have kept her around because she caused drama, too. And they should have also kept around the one who turned evil at the end, Anna, who was nice and boring the whole year until the end when she turned into Satan. She needs to be back on, too.
Starting point is 01:24:38 She was great on the reunion because she actually did something and actually got up in people's faces, and then it's like we never saw her again. Yeah, they made a mistake. They found a cast that worked and then they got rid of all the ones that were fighting or had issues. It's like, why would you do that? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Stupid. They also don't have a fiery Latina in there. They've got Adriana, but they need to have, like, they didn't need to keep Lisa honestly. Lisa, there was no reason to keep Lisa. They've got Adriana, but they need to have, like, they didn't need to keep Lisa, honestly. Lisa, there was no reason to keep Lisa. They should have gone, they should have found a vet from Big Brother 6 and told the vet, okay,
Starting point is 01:25:12 guess what, you're on a new show, and you can be on here and be crazy and nasty. Well, there are plenty of crazy Latinos they could have had on there. I don't know. It's just, I don't, the bad, bad, bad, bad job, bad job this year, guys. I hope they pick it up, though, because I hope the last few episodes... I mean, how many episodes are we in? Like seven?
Starting point is 01:25:30 We've still got a ton of episodes left. No, no, no. The season order is not as long as it is for something like Beverly Hills or New York by any means. Oh, is it like a 13 episode? I think it's probably about 13. Did you notice they did the halfway, coming up this season on Miami, they did that last week. Yeah, I already feel like we are now on the home stretch where we've got to knock out two weddings and then get to the reunion.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Yeah, well, the weddings will be the end. They'll be the last one, the last thing, probably. Meh, whatever. I had high hopes for that show. That's another problem, which is that they were given the season arc storylines of weddings, which, again, is something that I think
Starting point is 01:26:09 people on Bravo don't really care about, people who watch. So I think Real Housewives of Miami has completely brought this podcast down. I'm ready to wrap this up. Yeah, let's wrap it up. It's almost time, but I do want to say something. You guys, people on our Facebook page have been asking
Starting point is 01:26:27 us to watch Real Housewives of Vancouver forever, and I just keep ignoring it because I'm like, I've got enough. I've got enough, okay? Every time they say that, I say, mail us some DVDs, people. Oh, it's on YouTube. You don't need it. It's all on YouTube. Every episode's on.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I want somebody to... Get an Apple TV, girl. Excuse me. It's all on YouTube. I want somebody to... Get an Apple TV, girl. Excuse me. I do this for free. Anyhow. Anyway, Ronnie, make your point. That's playing the podcast another 10 minutes. Anyway, it won't take that long.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I just wanted to say thank you because I was desperate last week before all the fall premieres came on Sunday and gave me like 10 hours of tv to watch in one day wow this is probably the worst housewives i've ever seen it's the cheapest the people on it are the most awful fucking people in the world and i can't stop watching it i mean these women are barracudas they are horrid There are two women in particular named Ronnie and Jodi. Ronnie, of course. They are total seabirds. Ronnie and Jodi.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Uh-huh. Yeah, I hope I would be Ronnie because she's richer. But, yeah, they're vile women. And we probably won't talk about it on this show because I'm the only one watching it. But I wanted to thank the listeners. You've sold me on it. I'm going home to watch YouTube right now. I mean, it's horrible. And they rip off
Starting point is 01:27:48 every Housewives story. Like, one lady teaches her kid to drive. And then there's the one where we're concentrating on the lady's business. Like, the business one. And, I mean, it's all of the tropes. But it's... I mean, it's just vile.
Starting point is 01:28:04 You've got to watch it these women are disgusting the things they end up doing to each other are really worth it it's terrible TV but it's fun so thanks listeners and also thanks listeners for listening to Watch What Crappens live this was kind of a disaster delay show
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