Watch What Crappens - Shahs of Sunset: The Dools of Our Lives

Episode Date: October 31, 2017

Timestamps below! Kathy Griffin went off on Andy this weekend, so we spent the first half hour talking that over. Then, Shahs of Sunset finished out its season with screaming, yelling, and a near overdose. See ya next year, suckas! This week’s bonus is a shot by shot breakdown of the new Vanderpump Rules trailer for season 6. To hear it, become a premium subscriber at http://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens Kathy Griffin and Andy Cohen Feud: 0-30:15 Shahs: 30:15 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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and here I am on this fine Monday with my little bestie Ben Mantelker of the B-side blog and the banter Blinter. Hello, Bean. How's it going? So God God, I'm so glad you I I'm great on this very spooky Halloween Eve day It's so spooky He's not good, but he's spooky. Halloween is so Persian.

We had a great weekend. We saw a little shop of horrors last night with the original ending, which I had never seen before. I came home so happy. I was so, so happy. I feel like so much happened. Like we went, we saw the little top of horrors. I got Schwama afterwards. Kevin Spacey came out of the closet.

And then I came home and the World Series game was still going on. Like it had been going on for hours and hours. And then I immediately cursed it because the moment I started watching it, the moment the Dodgers would lose. So I did that. It was just a very action filled night. It was an action filled weekend. Bethany put her dog having seizures and stuff on Instagram and everyone was freaking out. And that was on the same day that Kathy Griffin made a video and went on YouTube and accused Andy Cohen

of trying to give her Coke. And we were gonna, yeah, we were gonna talk about all that stuff on the bonus episode this week, but we got this Band of Pump Rules trailer as dropping too. So I don't know what's gonna happen, but we're gonna. I know. I'm kind of sick of talking about Kathy Griffin already

because it was like two days ago, it seems like a week ago. And it was like traumatic that whole day, you know? It's like Kathy Griffin drops her bombs and then Bethany and then you know, little shop of whores that new ending was more depressing. It was very sad. And we also refused to go to Bukitapepo

and I kind of felt bad about that last night. I was like, we could have had a gigantic bowl of something. We could have. Maybe we should have, you know, in honor of the Shah as a sunset, but we never would have been awake to recap Shah as a sunset afterwards. We had just been a food coma. I mean, I did, I mean, I did have Shwarma,

which did put me in a pretty solid food coma, but I had some door masks and some Promise to celebrate while I was eating shots or while I was watching Eating shots of sunset while I was consuming reunion number two shots of sunset. I do have to say the Cathy Griffin Andy Cohen feud is really messy and so, like, uninteresting to me. But it's kind of funny because it came on the heels of people in one of our groups, writing this whole thing about, does I think there are, I guess people were asking, or wondering why we haven't been bartenders on, watch what happens live, which is one of the number one questions I get

when I meet people and I tell them I'm a co-host of a Bravo show people say oh have you met Andy Cohen you know have you been on his show which is kind of funny like that people which is automatically see how that we would have met him but um well I think we say because it's a Bravo podcast so they figure oh it's Bravo like we work for Bravo no we don we don't know. Yeah, we make fun of Bravo Yeah, so it's funny. There was this whole discussion about like Andy Cohen and like Maybe the reason why we haven't been bartenders is because Andy Cohen Like doesn't like us or maybe he does like us or maybe who knows what and so there's all this discussion about is Andy Cohen, you know, is he like petty or is he not petty? And then this whole thing happens. So it was great. It's just

a great weekend of Andy Cohen theorizing. Just trying to get us out of this brain. Conspiracy series right after the JFK documents were released. It's been crazy week in the country, guys, okay? Wait, why don't we just talk about this little because we're not going to talk about it on the bonus episode because we're talking about the good old shows like really how much do we have to talk about how Gigi cuts herself and almost dies. It's like yeah nothing really happened in the second hour. So I'm fine to talk about this for a second. It's bravo related. It's relevant. It's topical. Okay. I'm down. So like wait, so where do you because we didn't really talk about this yesterday when we were going to Little Shopper Hors.

Like, where do you stand on this whole thing? Well, I'm conflicted, Ben. Yes. Because I love Kathy Griffin. I've gone to see her stand up many, many times. I watched her D-list show. I love her. I mean, I hate it her on suddenly seizing.

I don't like Kathy Griffin acting, but I love Kathy Griffin the stand-up Comment or whatever the Trump thing. I don't really care about that. I don't think it was a big deal I know people freaked out about it and then she had to apologize I think my problem with this video for those of you who haven't seen it just look it up on YouTube Yeah, no, no, let's give wait. Let's give us some minor context because otherwise people are gonna say what is it? basically Yeah, no, no, let's give, wait, let's give us some minor context because otherwise people are gonna say, what is it? Basically Andy Cohen was cornered by some TMZ reporters at LAX and they were like, are you excited for a new year doing new years with Interstone Cooper and like what do you think about what do you think Kathy Griffin's feeling?

He just I don't know what the question was but it's about Kathy Griffin and Andy Cohen does the Mariah Carey thing goes Kathy goes Kathy who who I don't know her. don't know her so he was just being like petty shady, you know, so Kathy Griffin on Saturday releases a 17 minute long video where she's like people here we go I'm gonna release this it might get taken down so preserve this video to the best of your knowledge if she's like giving away details of the Trump dossier. So she's like, she's like, here's a phone call that I received from Harvey Levin. And it's like, Harvey, she plays this voice man, Harvey Levin's like, hey Kathy, it's Harvey Levin. Can you give me a call back?

And he like gives his phone number. She's like, I never gave him my phone number. So there, there's numbers out there. And I know he works with Trump. And he just feeds Trump. And then Andy Cohen offered me cocaine twice before going on to watch her happens live and and people are complicit and this woman and this woman and this woman they're complicit and I actually don't honestly only got like Maybe about five minutes into it. I was like I can't I can't go

It's a lot of like she didn't support me and my agents didn't support me. No one supporting me listen for sure Yeah, you're a stand-up comic, okay? And you did a Trump beheading thing. This is what she was talking about when she was saying the support thing Yeah, you don't get support for a bad joke. Okay, the whole world doesn't rally around us whenever we make a shitty joke Piss his people off like you're allowed to do it and people are allowed to get pissed I think the huge problem with all of that because she she put all of this in the same video. Okay. So the Trump stuff, that's serious. Yeah. I think because the Trump is serious and she's talking about how the government put her on watch list and she can't you fly right and she's like, I'm on national tour, which of course she

plugged that at the end. She's like, I'm on a national tour. And if I don't come back, that's why I've been kept in the, you know, whatever I've been pulled over by the NSA because I'm on a terrorist watch us. Well, that's bullshit. You know, that's crazy and the government should not be doing that. That's insane. That's a different video because on that I'm totally on her side. But the other stuff she's like, oh wait till you hear this, you know, Harvey Levin is harassing me. I'm like, that is not harassing you. That was like a total normal voicemail that you just doxed him. You know, that's why the video was gonna be taking down because she put someone's phone number out there.

You're not allowed to do that. And then she's like, well, I've been doxed and my sister who just died was doxed and we're getting hate mail. We're doing this and that, okay, that sucks as well. But you made the joke. Like, why would you do something like that? If you, it's like, get out of the kitchen bitch. Like, why would you do something like that? If you,

it's like, get out of the kitchen bitch. Like, seriously, don't be cooking a truck head in a big pot if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen. But yes, I support your, your forced metaphor. Yes, forced metaphor, but the other stuff like harassing, I mean, Andy Cohen, yes, I know they have like a bitchy relationship or whatever. Andy Cohen your no Mariah Carey Please like don't try and pull off the Mariah Carey because no one you know the TMC guy was like what what do you mean? You don't know her he's trying to make him explain it. Yeah I don't have anyone else to quote to explain this to you, you know, but I think such a stupid petty little thing and I really didn't care I think that they're both at fault

So first of all, I mean, Kathy Griffin, she has always been sharper than this and this year she has really kind of just lost her way. You know, the Trump, I think everyone on both sides of the aisle really felt that the Trump photo was in poor taste. I mean, was I, I was I like, oh my God, take that. And I was like, no, that's stupid. I mean, you may hate the man, but he's still the president and yet, and like you can't complain about like, you know, like him, sullying the respect of the, you know, the, the office,

and then do that, which is sullying, you know, the way that we're supposed to respect the president, regardless. But like, whatever. But we all thought it was, but we all thought it was like, we just went too far, you know, it almost was like her call for murder and that's just it's not right. So, you know, and so what she should have done then was been like, oh, sorry guys, bad joke. I didn't realize this could be taken this way. My bad, let's move on. And then she like released like, like she had like one press conference after another and like one she was like, I'm so sorry, I beg for your forgiveness.

And the next one was like, no, they're harassing me. And the next was like, I take back my apology. I'm standing strong. I was like, okay, Kathy, like literally no one cares anymore. New cycles are so fast and you keep on bringing this up. Like you're the only one bringing this up. Like no one cares anymore. So now we come to this thing, you know,

obviously she lost her New Year's gig with it. So Andy Cohen does his petty shade. Kathy Griffin, it's like, so here's where I mix because on the one hand, if Andy Cohen has been like a shitty boss to her, which is not out of, it's not like a crazy thing, and we're at this moment right now where people are like, you know what, I'm gonna speak up against this, it's not right.

Then I get that. But at the same time, I feel like Andy Cohen was just doing like really, like, he was just doing like petty shade. It's like, again, your comedian a comedian, you should be able to handle it. But that being said, Andy Cohen, you know what? Like, it was, this show was bound to happen to you sooner or later. You know, you put women against each other all the time, all the time. That is your career. You sit down with like five women. Like once, like at the end of all these seasons, you put them against each other, you stir the pot incessantly and that's why we tune into you and that's why you are

where you are. But eventually, you know what, like you do it one too many times and you're gonna like, you're gonna, you know, poke a crazy pit bull like Kathy Griffith and now you guys are both in a stupid mess where you both should be acting smarter than you are. The thing that really pissed me off about all of it is that the way that it was released is right after this Harvey Weinstein thing, there's all this like serious shit going on. Like where women are coming out about being sexually assaulted, abused, raped, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but on and on, like it's a serious thing that's happening. And for her to be like, well, this is a tale of two Harvey's. No bitch, this is not the same thing.

Okay. Yeah. Like don't, don't compare your petty fight with some Bravo person because you got kicked off a New Year's thing. And then she's going on and on about what she's a victim of this Joan Rivers thing and how she just wanted to keep her legacy going. Kathy Griffin, you kind of failed on that thing. Like stop bling, stop being

a pussy. Okay. Like if you're going to be a bully comic, which you know, that's why I love it. I think it's hilarious. I love hilarious. She's hilarious. So for general leds, I think it is hilarious, but she's a mud slinger. That's what she does. You can't turn around and cry the minute you start getting stuff back and being like, well, I mean, she did say her thing. Like, I understand if like, you know, like Oprah came for me or someone came for me because I've come for them, but like Andy Cohen, where'd that come from? I just feel like, you know what, sometimes you have to think

that how you get to live for it. I can't be for a long time, but she knows where it comes from. And you know, get to decide like who gets to come after you when you get to go after whoever you want. You know, that's a good point too. But you know what the other thing is she, I think I agree with what you're saying, which is that she really did not package this very well. She lumped it in with the Trump stuff, which is something else.

She lumped it in the Harvey Levin, which is something else. And you know what, she would have been a lot more effective if the video didn't come off as more like, like, oh, they didn't support me. Oh, she didn't support me. We're always she, she didn't hear, oh, she's complacent. It sounded just like sour grapes. And the one thing to get to your point is, they're people with like who are going through

some serious, you know, coming out and speaking up about times where they were really deeply sexually harassed and not saying that Cathy Griffin wasn't. But like the way she presents it was so sour grapey that it almost like makes it seem like, well, I'll say this is what's going to happen about the floodgates and all these sour grapes come out. And I just feel like she would have been a lot better if she focused her thing only on Andy and said, this is why I don't like him because I was working for him. I did all this and that.

And you know what? He was like, this, this, this. He was shady all this time. And you know what? I'm sick of him. Now, now, now, like I had a moment, I lost my gig, he takes this over, and then he's gonna be snide to me when I'm like already going through it,

like that's bullshit. That's what he should have said, people like, he been like, yeah, okay, Kathy. Yeah, but she's coming out like, oh, I have all this stuff about Andy Cole, wait for it, and then it's like, he offered you Coke, like that is so nice. Do you know how expensive Coke is?

Like, that's friendly, okay? And then he's like he offered you Coke. Like that is so nice. Do you know how expensive Coke is? Like that's friendly, okay? And then he's, oh sorry. He's not, he totally, he's sitting on a tweet being like, like it's a, I don't know where this came from. It's 100% like false. Like my, okay, yeah girl. Like hi every single episode, every episode. Oh, yeah.

And then she started going on this Harvey Levin is giving shit to Trump and he's on Trump side, which I don't, I don't know. I don't care about TMZ. I'm sure that that's probably true. I mean, if she's saying that, okay, that's fine. But then they go off and be like, well, you know, what have, what have you ever done for the gaze Harvey?

I do all this stuff for the gaze. Yeah, bitch, you do. And thank you. As a guy, I would like to thank you for your support, but guess you, you owe thanks to for supporting your ass. Who do you think goes to watch you? Gapy. Yeah. So stop acting like you're such a martyr for the gaze. The gaze gave you a fucking career, okay? And the gaze also made bravo. So please get the fuck off your cross because that was built with our wood, okay? Yeah. So I just mean just like shut the fuck

up. I'm really sick. Like there's real stuff going on and people are expressing a lot of stuff that hasn't been able to be expressed until the floodgates opened. And so to conflate your issues, your petty fucking issues with this and then act like you're some like feminist, you know, martyr because you did some bravo specials a long-ass time ago that were less expensive than more famous comics on Netflix. Well, I mean, she did bring you.

It's like enough. She did bring them Emmys. She did bring them prestige. But I do think, though, that I think she handled the fallout of the Trump photo so poorly. She should be at this point. At this point, she should be like laughing about it, like, oh my God, what a disaster I made of myself. You know, it's like, you know, Kennedy, the MTV VJ, she, you know, she got in trouble

with like Giuliani back in the day and what's his face? He just died. Um, permission impossible and Edward, you know, um, old, old actor, who won an Oscar Redwood, you know, anyway. She, Kennedy got in trouble, and she laughs about it, you know, and like it's part of her thing, like, oh my God, it was crazy, I do, like I thought I was just doing something provocative and like, you know, like that's

where Kathy Griffin should be at right now. And the fact that she is still making herself like a victim to right wing nastiness. It's like, oh, man, she is. But like, over on doing, like truly ever on doing. Like it should be a joke like, oh my God, look at the mess I got myself into, not like, oh my God, look at the mess I've got into

and you weren't there for me, you weren't there for me, and you weren't there for me. It's like, that's not the Kathy Griffin that we want. Also, I've heard from many people who've worked for her that she's crazy. Multiple people, it's going back like not the Kathy Griffin that we want. Yeah, I've heard from many people who've worked for her that she's crazy. Multiple people going back like 2003. So there's that. Yeah, Kathy Griffin has long has been a long time hero of mine because she's like, fuck

you, fuck you. Oh, yeah, that's what goes down the line. When she's confronted, she's like, fuck you. You know, and that's what I like. And part of that attitude is not being able to do a lot of mainstream shit that maybe she would have had she not been doing that kind of humor her whole career. But it makes me like her. It makes her my hero in a way.

So I just don't like when my heroes start whining. You know, it's like that Batman Returns movie or Batman whatever, or Batman, they try and make him look like a terrorist and the Batman's all depressed. And he's like, wait, I'm Batman. I'm so sad. I need to be depressed for a while. No, the fuck you don't. You're Batman. Get the fuck out of your cave. I put the towel. Yeah. My advice is Kathy, stop with the stop on this whole line. This, you know what it is? This season of Kathy Griffin needs to have a finale. And then next season, let's rebuild. Go back to the comedy clubs.

Do what you did literally 15 years ago when you were kind of like on the outside of Hollywood, you started doing a once a week show and you just built yourself back up. And the thing about her is she is a hustler and she is, I mean, she is funny. She is hilarious. And like, get back to that Kathy because that's what we like. That's what we love. That's what we love. That's what we want to see and like then be our champion the way we want to be the champion that we want. Well, the Trump stuff when that happened, I remember thinking poor Kathy because really, Kathy is always on kind of the outside.

And this was her kind of to me at least. It was her attempt to be with the popular kids because you know, it's like liberal Hollywood or whatever, everybody's so anti-Trump and stuff and I think this was her like kind of look we're on the same side, I hate Trump too. Yeah, that even from backfired interface, it's like you can't try, okay, you're not a popular kid and that's why you're fucking amazing. So just keep doing what you're doing, you know, and stop, stop your wine and stop your snive keep doing what you're doing, you know, and stop stop your wine and stop your sniveling. Now the Trump stuff, the backlash she was talking about being put on

terrorist watchlist and shit like that, that is bullshit. And we shouldn't be standing around where our government is doing that to people who are speaking out or having an opinion or making a bad joke. That is absolute crap. But no one's even taking any of that away from it. It's just like, oh my God, she accused Andy Cohen of offering her Coke. Like, that's everyone's big takeaway from the video. Well, because that's because that was in the first three minutes and no one can get that minute for. So that's why it's the big takeaway. Love the top.

Love the top people. Well, Andy Cohen's in his first scandal, which is exciting. And we hope he enjoys it. I'm sure we'll blow over. Pun intended. Yeah. It's just funny. I just think it's funny that, like, you know, I don't know why. Like, you know, people so getting back to what I

was saying before about why haven't we been on Watch What Happens. And we suspect, you know, truthfully that watch what happens is his baby like his, his, that's his pet project, you know, and like that's his love and the fact that we have a show called Watcher Crappens that inherently makes fun of it. Even if even if we do, everything we do, we love Bravo, we think that he just doesn't like that. And so I mean look for me, I can only speak for myself in this partnership, but why the fuck would you have me on? I have say horrible things. I mean, all you have to do is say is play five seconds of me saying something rude on some reunion. Why would you?

Like, yeah, I get the same thing I'm talking about with her. Like I can't have a big nasty mouth and then be like, well, why aren't I invited to the cast party for Shaz of Sunset? Of course I'm not. I called them fat idiots all day. Exactly. And we say, it's his right to be petty with us. Like God bless them. Be petty with us because we're petty.

And you know, as we saw from this, like, from this whole thing that he's petty too. He is clearly petty because he did that whole thing. He's opened up this whole can of worms with Cathy Griffin. So we don't know if that's the reason why, but if that is, it makes sense to us, and we're fine. You know, we're fine with it. It's fine. If he wants to be petty, that's like honestly,

the greatest privilege a gay man has is to be petty. Look, it's warm inside where Look, and it's warm inside where people get it's warm inside the party. But bitch, I don't care what the party is. I'm outside smoking anyway. Well, someone else said that it's where I'm more comfortable. And I'm not going to like start complaining about that shit now. So yeah, someone else also said that he he doesn't like self hating gaze and also that, you know, with his show he thought the gay community was going like rally around him like oh wow It's the first gay and in in late night and he doesn't understand why more people like more gay people aren't more supportive

This is according to someone who is I guess listen to him on his radio show or read his books So maybe it's like this resentment that like he'd maybe just like does not like people who are who are Who look at him like like instead of, you know, well, they're trying like the milestones to make him the community. So, please, you be a break. It's not like some, it's not Jay Leno. Okay. It's an after show for your own shows on Bravo.

Give me a break. Let's stop make, let's stop pretending it's all the same thing. Okay. You kind of got yourself a job on Bravo as Kathy said in her video, which I thought was funny. First, he said that that was what a's like, but it's never canceled. But it's like, you're executive who gets your own show. And it's an after show for other shows.

It's not the same thing as being fucking Jimmy Fallon. It's just not, you know, I'm sorry. And also guess who else says that who's disappointed that the gay is just don't automatically support them? Every gay person who does anything gay ever, you don't automatically just get gold stars for being a Faggoto barito, okay? We're not going to get a glad award just for being gay people, okay? Yeah, I mean, and you should hear what I was on my brain. I feel that way about our podcast. I'm like, why are we not profiled in the advocate? We are two successful gay podcasters. Where's our recognition? So C&D, we all feel that way. And when I said to that on the group was I said,

you know what, hating, self-hating gaze is the most self-hating gaze thing a gay man could do. Right? Like, that is so meta to hate a self-hating gaze. Well, self-hating, hating, self-hating gaze doesn't even make any sense. Like, if I'm a self-hating gay, what does that have to do with you? That's not the reason I hate you.

It's not because I hate gay people. Give me a break like you're your own person It's not a gay thing like people aren't disrespecting you just because you're gay There's a whole plethora of reasons to like or dislike somebody or what they do that has nothing to do with where we stick our Dicks, okay? Yeah, I mean I will always stand like you know My my take on Andy Cohen has always has remained the same, which is I think he's like very smart. I think he is definitely a hustler. He hustles baby. I think he's very shrewd. And I think that he like, you know, it sort of gets back to Kathy Griffiths point, which is like the first ever network executive to get his own TV show. He knows what he wants. He knows how to go after it. He knows the channels.

And I really admire that about him. I think, and he's like a total spengali, which I think cuts both ways, where I get annoyed is like, you know, these questions. He asks people where he is like, okay, which crotch is like sexy? Hey, what's new with your boobs? Tell me about your boobs. What have you gotten done? It's just like gross to me. And, and again, I do feel like he pits women against each other. And obviously, we, I mean, who are we to talk? Because we sit and we pray off of it. When the women go against each other, we pray off it.

We literally pray off it. So we're all on the same boat. So maybe that is so pretty off of it. But we also pray to it. Like we worship at the altar of that. And that was another thing that ignored me about the whole video this week. Because I went to a couple of parties over the weekend. And that was, of that annoyed me about the whole video this week, because I went to a couple of parties over the weekend,

and that was of course coming up. And one of the discussions, everybody's like, well, you know, those shows, meaning all the brava shows, because these weren't like bravo types. They're like, those shows are so misogynistic and all they are about women hating on each other and this and that. And like, okay, I get that you're gonna,

I get that people take that view. That's not really a new view. But they're more than just that. And I really am sick of everybody getting on their fucking high horse about every little thing. It's like this weekend, the conversation went from, oh, it's misogyny. Someone who's like a total misogynist, it's an anti-woman thing. And then Kathy's like, he's a misogynist.

And then Harvey's like a gay hating gay, you know actively working against his own people and then it turned into all of this like victimhood. It was like everybody who talked about it had to make themselves the victim in some way of whatever was happening. It's like can we just all stop fucking crying at all times. Please. Like one per it's like one baby cries in the nursery and then suddenly the whole fucking nurseries crying You know well and there are a couple of babies who actually have reasons to cry So please just stop making it so confusing that we can't find the real pain, you know It's like every it's almost like it's it catches on like wildfire and everyone's like I am hurt too

It's like okay save that for your own YouTube video. Can we just get through Kathy? Please. Well, getting back to Andy Cohen, I just think that, you know, what bothers me is just, he does pit women against each other professionally. I guess the thing that bothers me is not that he does that, it's more that then he's always surprised when someone comes for him or something happened. Someone curses on his show. Please, come on.

Come on, don't curse on the show. It's like, dude, you like wind these people up and then they get so mad at their curse. Then you're like, please guys, be quiet. That's what drives me nuts. Also what drives me nuts is he does play favorites because essentially the show is supposed to be an after show for these things, but it also plays in the late night spots. So for instance, tonight is the season finale of the phenomenal Real House Wars of Dallas season two.

And there is not a single person from the show that is going to be a guest. I think it's like Bethany and someone else. And it's like, why don't, it drives me nuts when he doesn't support his own, their shows, he'll have Bethany on instead. And I know Bethany is a big star, but you know, like try to, like some of us really love these shows

and we want them to come back. And so like, please try to support them. And like, people will tune in for your show and why are you having Bethany on instead of Leanne or something? Or Carrie Dubor, I don't care, Stephanie Brandy, but on Heidi Dillon, I don't care, but support these shows or put someone from Oseum. It doesn't need as much support I don't think. So that drives me nuts when you play as favorites like that. And it may not even be him.

I may be projected onto him, and maybe the producers, and maybe who's available. I understand a lot of them. I mean, I don't watch it really, and I don't really care. Like, I don't really care about the deep seeded misogyny or the blah, blah, blah of the whatever. I just like to watch the shows, make fun of them with you, and like kind of call it a day.

And I like that shallow part of it. I'm like just watching it, making fun jokes and being done with it and then moving on to the next one. I guess it's not my favorite thing about it. And so I was thinking the other day when I got home from a Halloween party. I just talked about it. I talked about it with my friend, Maul's, you know,

and then talked about it with so-and-so, and then texting all day with people and reading comments all day on that YouTube video and the tweets to Andy and like, I was so in bed caught up and all this shit. And at the very end of the day, it's like four in the morning and I was like, this life is fucking hilarious. The all day long has been consumed by this nonsense. And I didn't, I wasn't like, dissing myself. I was like, this really is hilarious. That this took up my whole goddamn weekend. Yeah. I mean, it is, it is funny. And I just want to clarify, I don't think that Andy

Cohen is misogynist, but I'm just saying that I think that he, you know, he pits, he pits people against each other. You watch an entire season of people fighting and fighting and fighting. And then a lot of times in the season, they get to a finally good place. And then they come out for this reunion and tears them down again. And then is like, then he expects them to like, you know, like make amends. Like, can we move on from here? It's like, well, probably they could have if you hadn't just spent the past nine hours shooting and watching them like tear each other down, which I know is more than just any time. At the same time, when they don't tear each other down, and it's just a fun season, and no one's

really fighting, people are like, this is the most boring thing I've ever seen in my life, you know, so it's like, it's almost like telling Jerry Springer, oh, you know, how could you do it? Like, yeah, I mean, of course, I think we all agree that Jerry Springer is like exploitative, but at

the same time, we watch him because of that. So, I don't of that. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's probably not even, it's not even really. And that's what I'm saying. He's a spin gully. He's clever. He's doing what he has to do, but it also can make you just be like, oh, you know.

And again, those times when he's like, you know, when everyone's are shouting and he's like, guys, guys, come on, guys, can you just like stop shouting? And like, well, you did, you you started this like it's like stuff like that That like annoys me but overall I mean I actually overall have a very positive impression of Andy Goen believe it or not. It's just those are like my my minor things from like and you're ridiculous sometimes And ain't the world all right. Well, let's move on speaking of reunions Yes Speaking of Andy doing what Andy does best,

the Shaws of Sunset Reunion. 29.30. I'm writing that down so I can time-staff for people who are sick of listening to Kathy Griffin, YouTube, video commentary. I'm in the process. I'm trying to get into my ice coffee here. I'm using the little, the mug thing that Randy gave us,

back in New York. Oh, using it every day. I put in too much ice and my straw can't penetrate through the layer of ice and I'm having issues. Drill, I've got to rearrange that ice. I bought these very special tall rubber straws from Amazon. I got like a 10 pack, I'll give you one. They're so amazing. Oh, I bought like a huge number of straws from Amazon. I got like a 10 pack. I'll give you one. They're so amazing.

Oh, I bought like a huge number of straws. Anyway, no one really cares about my straw issues. From Kathy Griffin to straws. Let's talk about Shaza Sunset, which opens up with Reza and Asa arguing. I don't even remember what they're arguing about because I didn't bother watching previously. So so I just thought- Well, the argument was, we left off last time with Assa yelling at Resa, do you believe me or not, babe? Do you believe me about my in vitro fertilization frozen midi and sun so that I'm made out of gold? Do you think that I used one for this baby or no? Do you believe it or no? And he's like, I believe you, but I also hate myself for having doubt.

So, and he's like, well, what does that mean? Do you believe her? Do you not believe her? He's like, yes, but I have doubt. Okay, I have doubts on my doubts because I believe her. See, I had doubts, but now I'm doubting that I had doubts. So that's like a double negative, which means I believe you, Asa. That's so Persian. That's so Persian. He's like, didn't you? So you're saying that you didn't say you were afraid to bump into MJ at the doctor's office? Look, she probably said she's a bump, uh, afraid to bump into MJ anywhere. Who's not

afraid to bump into MJ? Seriously? No, I bumped into her at a fat fit fun party and I was terrified. I mean, every time I stepped out of my building for many years, I was terrified. I mean, what if MJ was across the street? Thankfully, she moved. So she's like, babe, I was saying I was afraid to bump into her because it was a joke, babe.

It was a joke. And he's like, well, that's why we are in our relationship, which makes no sense. And which is part for the chorus for this reunion in this cast. Once again, relationship has come to a crossroads which by the way, I'm going to insert a non-graceful tangent which is to circle all the way back to the top of the show which is when we talked about how all these things happen this weekend, cookie died, Andy Cohen, Kathy Griffin, you know as a busy bravo weekend,

when we haven't even mentioned the fact that Shannon and David Bedouard are splitting up. Oh my God. Yeah. Congratulations, Shannon. Congratulations. And my favorite comments in those divorce threads are always congrats on losing 100 Navy pounds.

By the way, there are pictures of her that came out from the reunion and she looks fantastic. When she came to our show, she already had, was already down like 40 pounds or 30 pounds and she looked good and she looked even better now. So Shadden is on the right path. It does not much more to say about this except that they're separating and she must be so happy. I know it sounds sucky to celebrate the end of a

marriage but this one's a specific case and it is I am celebrating it. I'm glad she's gonna get out there and God I hope we get to see her dating next year. Please. Oh my God. Please God. We'll try to make a song. Why are you looking at me like that? Was that a joke? I start bumblebees.

I start.blebees. I start bumblebees. Make this? By the way, Andy Cohen, I take your bumblebees. Take note. Because if you're not Mariah Carey, the only other person can do it is Shannon Bedore. Who's this?

Who's this? David, who? I don't know him. You're right. And I think that was free Mariah. No, maybe it was. No, no, no, no, because the Mariah video was it the more I think came out like in 2000.

Who's this? Who's this? Donna? I'm sorry. Oh my God. Okay, so then MJ does jump back into it because she's like I have tried to be a sister to you. I have been nothing but a sister to you.

I have been nothing but be kind to you. I want to be a sister. So hard. Yeah, exactly. The one who like tried to cut off her damn toe to fit in Cinderella. Sue, fuck off. You have not. You've been nothing but a bitch this whole time. Yeah. So I was just like, so you're trying to be like a sister.

So when you found out that I was pregnant, that was like a sisterly reaction. And they replay this moment where I'm just like oh Congratulations should I should I hug you? Because everyone's like go hug her go hug her. Okay. Should I hug you? Do you want me to hug you? Do you want me to hug you? Should I hug you? I just and then like she doesn't want to hurt the baby Which is like them all giving MJ a line and she's like yeah, I do not want to hurt the baby And which is like them all giving MJ a line. And she's like, yeah, I do not want to hurt the baby. And I was like, Oh, well, you'll be fine, babe. And then I was like, don't worry.

It hasn't defrosted yet. You can't hurt a frozen Christmas ham. Okay. So, so when it comes back, MJ is like, I was cold because I found out about this pregnancy six months after the fact. And I was like, so, and I'm just like see right there right there right there I'm like no MJ the reason why she's saying so it's because like like so what because she didn't tell you because she knew you would be soup shady about it yeah because you're a monster and you have

it for a long time now that said the lovable monster like where the wild things are. The cookie monster, for example, cookie monster. We all love the cookie monster, but we wouldn't want to live with him. Yes, I'll say the grouch. I also have to say Asa is not clean either. This year she's been just ignoring MJ, which I don't blame her, because MJ has been an awful shrew to her. But let's not forget that Asa totally helped Reza when he was going anti MJ a couple of years ago and just was trying to ruin her for no reason. When it was MJ's turn to get the Reza treatment, Ausa totally jumped on that bandwagon and helped him and it was totally unfair and uncalled for. So even though I'm kind of on Ausa's side with all of this,

after she's acted kind of like a dick with her baby, I don't care. I'm on her side, but you deserve it. I'm on your side, but I don't pity you. Well, this is called karma bitch. Okay, you did this day a while ago. They're just basically like, you know what they are? They are like the toys at the end of Toy Story 3, just slowly sliding down into the inferno and except the difference is that these toys deserve to be put in the inferno. They should just all be holding hands,

watching themselves go down to a pit of hell. Yeah, except this time you're actually worried for the inferno. You're like, oh my god, I hope there's like a sink straininger at the bottom of this thing. You're gonna have to go put out this guy now. Oh, so I love Resza, the peacemaker that he is, he's like, I don't think that Asa realizes that MJ's love for his baby's soul tan was so deep. She was weaving a blanket and then they saw a show like a footage of her being like, Hey, should I bring this blanket, like the queens? No, MJ, not enough time and queens of blood or blanket Sultan okay I'm not I'm like oh never mind see just doesn't understand how MJ

loves which is in a horrible abusive way and I love when she said I crocheted an organic colorless blanket while at my dad's dying side. And also is like, oh, the bastard child. That's who you made a blank. Croixing. Just not mean gathering a bunch of napkins. And Andy's like, okay guys, you know what? Let's just go to lunch. And everybody just jumps and zooms off.

It was like a Carti. You could hear the like, boom. Yeah. And that was a comment on Facebook last night that made me laugh so hard. It's like, lunch, boom. They also comment on Facebook last night that made me laugh so hard. It's like, lense, boom. They all just zoom on. Turn into dust. You dust out lines at them in the couches.

This is the first time we've seen reunions break for lunch and stuff like before, but this is the first time we really saw like lunch. Like it's like, oh, you get on this. Someone else is like a rap. They're like, oh, like, you see them like opening up their plastic bins and everything. Like, you know, somewhere that VIP concierge Is like I thought I was done with these people, but they've to be a lot sadgerless that either launch She's chained to a radiator somewhere

They just walked away from a table of food that they ate the entire reunion like at these people really make me jealous because They can still lose weight like Like I love 75 pounds. You just ate 75 pounds. I watched you. How did you lose it? I like there were they were all chippy with each other. Also back to age. MJ says the sure been sorry that you're fake and he's like, uh, sorry that, you know,

there's no one else for you to stir some shit up with. I got a man bun. Okay. Got a man. I got a man bun Okay, sorry, you're a J okay Sorry, I have a great iPad connection with an Elise Sorry that I have unlimited team mobile streaming Sorry, I have Netflix for life. I guess I get that with my team mobile This bitch has hummus This bitch has hummus. And Gigi is like, oh my god, Asa hates us so much.

You guys are the ones coming after Asa. What did she do? Like, obviously, I get that Asa's a dick this season in her own little way, but she's not a dick to you. What are you talking about? And Asa, you know what guys, you're all negative. And by the way, do you notice, I mean, Asa wears's so much like gold that I every time she talks, it's like, by the way, guys, you guys are all negative. Okay. All negative. She's like, when

it, she's like a nickel machine that keeps hitting a single cherry. It's like only five little nickels come out, you know, it's like when you heard this. It's like when you're at the supermarket checking out and someone nearby has just started to like play with a coin star machine and you're just you're like And when it's not tingling you just hear the Well, it's still counting and the occasional Yeah, like someone's Canadian dollar falling through Subway to concern like this is the subway toke and sir I would love it if coins are talked to you like that excuse me sir this is a subway token they don't even make these

anymore sir I wish the coins start talked like by lady at sunny cleaner oh why you leave coming your pocket why you feed me receipt I can't eat paper Okay, so the guys back the stage everybody back the stage and so they start making and GG sitting in a chair She's like, oh my god, I don't feel good Can you get the paramedics I'm having an ear attack, please? Like my ear cap, please She's like this is what happened. I just smoked some pot. And now I feel lightheaded.

I'm like, yeah, that's usually where it goes. That's kind of the appeal. She's like, I walked upstairs. I have to smoke a pot. And now I have to sit down. It's like, I feel like I'm almost like, I'm like, not low. I'm like, hi, what's going on?

It's like, you smoked pot. They're like, save it for next season, okay? you're going to need a fresh disease to keep this going. It's like two years in a row. Okay, we're going to need something to do. My ear can't breathe because I smoked some pot and came upstairs. Disease can be next time. So she gets checked out and then the paramedics hot, they're like, ooh, hot paramedic. Yay.

And then we go into the Gigi segment where it's just about Gigi. You can tell they're not even bothering until I give video packages for these people anymore. They're just like, ah, whatever. So they're just talking about Gigi and like it's a new Gigi. She went to rehab and she came back happier

and then someone was like, hey Gigi, you went to rehab so why are you drinking so much wine? And she's like, I didn't go to rehab for you came back happier and then someone was like, hey, Gigi, you went to rehab. So why are you drinking so much wine? And she's like, um, I didn't go to rehab for a sobriety. I went there to show off my new Instagram meme t-shirt line. Okay. The fuck do you think I was doing there? And Andy's like, are you high right now? And she goes, well, it's been an hour and a half since I smoked pot. You just said on camera that you just smoked pot and came up the stairs.

Like, how does it make it better if it was an hour and a half ago in your mind? Like, why even lie, you know? Like, even if the staircase thing didn't happen, like, how is that a good answer? Like, are you still smoking pot? Well, the last time I did it was an hour and a half ago. So, I'm at my 90-minute chip. I'll get better at sobriety once I start practicing it. Because that's what she said.

She's like, I'm not practicing sobriety. I never practiced it. Okay, it's like someone who fails at their violin concert. And they're like, I never practiced. Yeah, that doesn't make it better. Okay, and it's like, I'll need to hit later. Your eyes are already bled shut.

You people have had enough. Let's just move on. So he's like, so was inviting Leila to Thanksgiving the worst choice you ever made. And she's like, once I saw my parents face, I realized that I gave them life again. And I saw their souls come back to life. And my dad didn't want to cry, but then he did because he had his two kids. And it's because of me. OK.

Congrats. They're crying because they're like, oh, we have both of our kids right now. We thought we're going to have a pleasant Thanksgiving. My God. So Gigi has no relationship with Layla now. And so can this be safe? Mike, what do you think? And Mike is and Mike is like no no it can't be healed

I've tried to heal everything I use my don't let your ego be your amigo line and I Let them touch for the baby shoes. I made and I talked about my mother to them And I I shamed them into not being more subservient to their male counterparts and nothing worked So I shared my gray eyeshadow, nothing worked, Andy, nothing. And he's like, I think it stems from Leila, you know, she's so aggressive. Okay, so can we cut to the part where Gigi talks about how she's stabbing herself on the side to get off the tattoo that says so long? So it was too aggressive, okay. That's what this says so long. So

Okay, so then it's like well, well, Resa you were able to stop hating GG He's like, yeah, hey to you. I was just taking up too much energy It was like all my chevrons were becoming flat lines like I couldn't have that anymore You know when you look at a chevron wall, it can look like a bunch of triangle smiles We can look like a bunch of triangle smiles, or we can look like a bunch of triangle frowns. I like to think the frown is half open. Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court.

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and Asa that would have given Asa somebody on her side. So I said come back Gigi and she did and now Asa is going down, bitch. Basically, that's the truth. That's like the truth of it. So let's see, um, Andy's like, so you're cool. And he's like, yeah, totally me and Gigi are totally cool. Like we were in Palm Springs at the same time. And we texted each other, like, well, okay, that's, that's a huge step. Yeah, that's's great you sent a bit mojee so now goes on to Gigi and Shalom and so what was going on why did you

guys get married and Gigi's like well there really wasn't much of a thought process behind it he's like no no no don't tell me about your life just tell me about what you got a look she's like oh so Resa is like actually I think that there was a theory behind the elotement. I think that there are people in Shalom's life that would not have gone to the wedding. And I think it was easier for them to have an elotement so that way they wouldn't be in the tough position where they would have to see who would come and who would not come to their wedding. They didn't want to wait for all the people to juuusame him.

They didn't want to wait for all the people to ju-same him. Kind of the same way that also didn't want people to black shame her baby, as Mike said, who is not racist at all. Am I right, guys? So we learned that G.G. Inchelom are actually not divorced. And they're like starting to, to start to date again. Now they're starting to get to know each other, which I always love when people do that after they like, separate from marriage, like, we're going to get to know each other this time. I'm like, oh, good. I'm glad it actually works. It's a basic building stuff.

Yeah, basic building blocks relationship. And Andy pushes her on it. He's like, I don't get it. What, what do you mean? You didn't know each other. She's like, well, I got a call. I got a call and found out that he was dating some other. Like, he was gonna get his green card

from some other reality star. And he's like, who? And she's like, some bitches at some store. And he's like, so she was gonna marry a dash girl to get his green card. And she's like, yes, my flags were up. So I was trying to slice it my tattoo, because I was so mad that he would even dare to go

to the other high profile Middle Eastern reality star. So, welcome to the world before Shalom, Kimon. Of course, Mike takes Shalom side, because, you know, he's bros before hose. And he's like, listen, he is genuinely all about you. Like, we're working out and he's like, it's fucking Golnessa, bro. Like, wow, I's like, listen, he is he is generally all about you. Like we're working out. And he's like, it's fucking go nessabro like wow. I'm like, I guess like everything comes down to his experiences at the gym Like do he and Shalom go upstairs and greet your main jacks and also to be like whoa, Jermaine. You're Cool hitting what Ellie fitness is this that I just going floor to floor to talk to every bro from the Shaz to talk about the bitches. They're dating.

So Shalom came out and I was like, what are the odds? And he's going to say Shalom Shalom, but he didn't. I was actually a little sad. Well, he knows that Shalom can beat the shit out of him. He was just like, Oh, Shalom. Hello, Kiri. Kittaki Toka Toka. We know that like a bad Shalom is that his hair is his own Yamaka, you know, like

he is hair is already in Yamaka shape. Like he just already like it's very efficient. I appreciate that. Oh, so let's see. He's like, so a low man wait, hold on. Shalom. So do you want to be? Are you in it for the green card?

And you know, the green card. No, I mean, I could give this, this see this one. But I could get like 10 million girls just by giving them this wire man. Like it's not about the green card. He does fuck like that from the back of his mouth like that. No, if I want a green card I can give 10 million girls. I like when Andy said so how did you guys reconcile in the first place? And he's like ask her because one minute she hates me and the next minute she loves me.

And then and she's like it's because his ex was going nuts on social. So I played I got I went I went nuts to and then we went back and then she went back and then it cooled down and then she cooled down and then I cooled down. It's like wait a minute. So you're just saying that you ended up cooling down by getting to a fight with somebody on social media. Only fucking Gigi. Yeah. Her her like reasoning for anything in life never makes sense.

So it's like social alone. Why did you flip out in New York City? And I thought she's almost going to say, oh, well, out in New York City? And I thought Shalom was gonna say, oh, well, I had to, you know, like, put off GG. I had to make sure GG couldn't tell like that I was about to pop the question to her. So I had to like, pretend like I was really angry, but he was like, he was really angry.

He was like, yeah, I apologize for that, but like, I was just like, they keep giving me drinks and that's like, it's a lot. And then on top of that, like sweating, I mean, this, this, this show, and then I have to get the billboard 1130. So it's a lot. I love when they sell the clip of him, like, fuck you, you want more? You want more? You want more, like raging through that house. and then it cuts to Resa going, he's a good guy. He's like the nicest guy.

Like I even like him better than Gigi. So then Andy's like, so why did you guys break up and so Gigi starts saying, well, I couldn't take it anymore. I was feeling used and he's like, talk to him. Talk to him. Okay, don't drop. Calm down. I tried.

I've tried Andy. I've tried. He's like, no, let's see you try. Let's see you try. I'm like, okay Is this like Ion Levan's aunt over here starting over? You guys should say to each other. I love Just say that to each other. Yeah, so this is Well, so this is this gets back to what I was saying before because like obviously when when Shalom is saying they're they keep giving me drinks It's like the producers are clearly getting him drunk and putting him in this situation where he's uncomfortable and now he's on this reunion And now he's like come on try to work it out. It's just it's so like I know that's what he's got to do But it's still like you just have to roll your eyes at like the insincereity of it all, you know

Yeah, and then the next basically, they're still together. So I'm leaving GG's acting like they're still divorced, but they're not. They're still together. She's just taking a one day at a time, which explains why Schneider's over there all the time. You got to love that she said one day at a time when she's just like she doesn't even see how close that is to her rehab discussion that she was just like, what? I don't do that.

Does this mean Mackenzie Phillips will be there? I'm taking it one hour at a time. Okay, that pot was an hour and a half ago. It doesn't count Andy. Ronnie, I can only make so many one day at a time references before. I got furious that you're not picking up on that. I just can't. The only thing I can really remember from that is that the mom had really red hair.

And it was like that bowl cut that my auntie, Louisa had. I didn't like that. Bonnie. Bonnie. Not honey. Not honey. Well, no, it was. She recently, like about two years ago, she passed away from cancer. She looked like Carolyn Manzo. The haircut's called a page boy, I believe. One day at a time, Bonnie. Page boy is longer. A page boy is like from Caparet. Bonnie Franklin. Bonnie Franklin. Yeah, no offense. Bonnie Franklin. I just I guess I should look up that actor. If I can remember, because I know everyone's probably yelling at me.

Okay. I was a kid and I just didn't like that. So I didn't watch it. It's like, no, no, I will not watch this show. How about that mother now come again with facts of life comes on. Martin Landau. Okay. Good. We figured that out. So one day at a time has the best theme song of all time, by the way, of all time. I don't know. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, what do you have? You don't have one day at a time. I'll tell you that, sir. You have the facts of life. I'm sorry. Facts of life is a great theme song, but one day at a time is excellent and perhaps the only thing that could rival it is Mr. Belvedere.

Oh really? So it doesn't take different strokes, so it doesn't take different strokes, and it doesn't take different strokes to rule the world. No, it doesn't. Is that what you're saying, Ben? Well, if you listen to that theme song, you know that the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, and my drum says one day at a time. Well, I guess listen to that theme song, you know that the world don't move to the beat of just one drum and my drum says one day at a time Well, I guess what my drum says she was working in a brighter So I'm flushing queens when a boyfriend kicked her out one of those crushing scenes What we see to do what we see to say Well, it's kind of funny, I like the man. Well, as long as we're talking about sitcoms in the service industry, I'm going to raise

your nanny and go streaks on a china. Never matter before. No one cared. A way and you dropped, kicked your jacket. When you walked in the door. No one said. but stand, stand, do, do, do, do, do, and do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, TV themes songs anyway, for gonna be doing things on songs we need to be doing it for like days of our lives because the next segment is the guiding duel. Dues of our lives, Max Dick, why do people keep talking about it? Wait, before we get into Mike's duel, I just want to make one last comment about the last segment

that Andy wraps up, the GG segment, because they're asking like where will they be a year from now, where will they be, and some now? Where will they be? And somebody might say, I think they'll have a baby and some people say they'll be together. And Andy makes a joke. He goes, well, regardless of what happens, GG will still have a Shalom tattoo.

And you see Shalom's face, like, oh my fucking God. What am I involved with? His eyes bulged and you just look to the ground. Like, I'm dating a psycho. I'm actually married to a psycho I'm a Psycho bag psych this is what I've done. He said now it says SFE me or something because of all the stab marks in it. So come. So anyway, Mike Mike Mike in the duel. Mike's duel. One woman kept Mike in his place.

His mom. So, Resa was like, his mom is a thug. And basically, it gets talked, it's talked Mike's obsessed with his mom. She calls him every morning. Yes. And mom wants nothing to do with Jessica because she was like Jessica's mom after Jessica's mom passed. And then Jessica just ditched them and had the nerve to hurt his mother after he cheated on her.

God knows how many times that gave her God knows how many warheads. So who knows? Let's fast forward. Yeah. Okay. So we'll go through the duel. Well, there was nothing terribly funny. So we talked about the duel.

So we might as well talk about a pussy. Let's bring out a Adam. It's his first reunion. Team gay. So Adam says he is the closest to Asa because the ass who's his closest friend. He's like, I mean, I love everyone here, but Asa is like the closest, you know, like during the whole. I was like, oh my god. The Thailand thing still again still that's all he thinks about He's like I love everyone. She's the only one who reached out to be about Thailand Okay, that's the only one and then it's like and Andy's like well house married like and house married life And he's like everyone's like res is such a good person now Resa is like totally amazing because like he's literally, Mike's like he's totally

trying to be a better person for his man. And MJ's like, that is beautiful. That is beautiful. And then Andy's like, are you faithful? And Raza says, we're completely monogamous. Well, this is what they were teasing like the entire reunion, you know, like are you faithful? You called it, you said that was just a trick of editing. Yeah, because in the previews on throughout this episode too, it was like, like, are you faithful? When you're gay, it's different, but actually what he really said was, I'm completely monogamous.

I've been in an open relationship, but right now I'm not. Maybe 10 years of now, maybe I will, because in a gay relationship, things are different, but right now, monogamous. So, of course, it was totally benign. Yeah, and Adam, Adam, he's like, so Adam, remember when you were crying in the finale, when Empty was trying to have her property brothers moment and you wouldn't stop crying about

resathreatment to divorce you over stupid things? And he's like, it reminded me of Thailand. Yeah, I'm just as as possible. I mean I'm supposed to be jumping through hoops like lions. Lions like they also saw in Thailand. I just can't. I can't like that. But Honey remember when I took you to a pet co and I told them to put a little collar around a cat that was like seeing a lion too right? Yeah but you also asked them how much it cost to put me down.

So that's true, but I only did it because I take things one day at a time. And he's like, don't you think that's fucked up? Cause that's what alcoholics say. And you're comparing your relationship to alcoholism. And he's like, no, long spans of time freak me out. As a person who has infidelity in his life and comes from a broken home. I'm like, oh, okay, I see. So no matter. So when you cheat or leave, it's because you're the victim. Thanks. Thanks for getting that in there. Yeah. Thanks for getting that in there early, Reza.

So Adam is converting to Judaism in the process. And Reza says, because the question is like, what are you going to raise the child? Like, if you have the baby when we have a baby? And so Rhesus is like, well, I've just just based on the rituals and I prefer Judaism and Evan G Just like rolls her eyes like, oh The rituals is like, well, I have to say the ritual of fiddle around the roof is much easier to sit through than the ritual of Ruth is much easier to sit through than the ritual of the Jesus story every goddamn year in that barn with a little baby doll dressed in a diaper that is supposed to be able to talk to talkies. I just don't get it.

Okay Andy? So then they, it's that there's, they also reveal that the plan is that since Adam really, really, really wants to have a biological baby, they are going to use a surrogate for the first child and then adopt after that. So I'm like, and everyone's like, that's beautiful, that's wonderful, that's exactly how you should do it. I'm like, yeah, that's great. Like, way to give the second child a complex the rest of his life.

Okay. Okay. The first we want to have our special child, that's ours, and then we're going to have the other one. That's like the compromise. I can't wait to adopt little plan B. Yeah. Exactly. And by the way, the first thing is to have the baby first. So the biological child is going to be res. And then they're going to adopt. And then if they're still going to be res. This is child first. You know what this is. You know it's not going to be.

Because I was going to last. Well, I was going to laugh if they do like the like the sperm cocktail. And then the baby that pops out is brown and then like after all that, like Adam's dream of having his own, but well cause you know if that happens, Adam's be like, okay now I want one too. You know that's gonna happen, you know the adopted baby is not,

it's just never gonna get around, they're not gonna adopt a baby. Yeah, because then their argument the other day, he's like, well if you ever act like that towards my child, he's like, your child, you better back down, Biaj. Yeah, so that's gonna be awkward. Please don't have children.

And then he's like, well, we will have a baby. So maybe I will be less likely to leave. This is like the most romantic segment I've ever sat through. Yeah, you know what's great is a relationship with the parents together for the sake of the kid and they're all unhappy and then the kid has to bear the guilt of knowing that the parents are unhappy and they're only sticking together because of him. Yeah, that's great.

Warm hugs, warm hugs, everybody. So what does this happen? Does she love when I weigh in on parenting? Oh, at first, it's cold time. Actually, it is really good when parents day for kids, I guess. But I guess it depends. Depends. Depends. Depends. Depends. Depends.

If you can fake it, great. But if you're going to just fight through the whole dinner, you know, everybody's different. Yeah. So then, Resa, this is the hilarious part. Resa, this was like, so did you sell that Palm Springs house? And Resa's like, I sold the Palm Springs house. And I sold this and I sold the watch and I saw the picture frame and guess what?

I just closed on a new house, I just bought a new house and everyone's like oh and then Micah's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, because you know this is this is it we tell you everything you don't tell us anything and he's like well they told us uh well he goes now you know how I felt when ossa didn't tell me she's pegged in for five months i'm like oh i see so somehow you managed to turn this into being anti-ossa like and you're the victim like now you know how i feel the burden of carrying a secret yeah you're such you're the victim and that's why you told

ossa first and nobody else and how about you can can just tell people what I wanted to be a surprise. Like it's a surprise, Mike. It's okay. Maybe Mike was mad because maybe Mike wanted to get a commission on the house or something. Like he wanted to be the broker. I don't know because back in the day he was actually a real estate person. Maybe yeah, or MJ too. But yeah, he's like, well, how do you think I felt?

And then I was like, yeah, and how do you think I felt, babe? Like Mike, I found out you had a company of, for shoes the night of the shoes. Like when you were running back from Mexico, like, I didn't know that. And he's like, well, I haven't even met your son. Okay, you guys just everybody stop. Yeah. One thing we can agree on in the shots of sunset is you're all wrong. So let's just move on to the next. And hypocrites.

Hypocrites is the best word to use in that situation because that is it's like Mike's being like I share everything and then I was like I didn't even know about your shoe company until the launch party. He's like, well, you know, maybe you should hang out on the second floor of the gym. It took a long time for me to un-sow those baby gap labels and so in. Swad. Swad. Swad.

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Swad. Swad. Swad. Swad. Swad. to share everything with everyone at all times. And she's like, you know, for instance, Germain, like, he doesn't want to be on the show. So he's not going to sign the contract. And for me, I was open about my financial situation in season one. And then you guys all labeled me the poor one. And I just was stuck being the poor one for that season. When you know, I'm definitely not poor, which was kind of funny that she threw that in there. And you guys were trying to look like ballers, you know, I was open about that because basically, it's the last segment. So, and he's like, welcome back. Everybody's favorite person.

Let's get awesome some more. You know, so he turns it back on her. And so, Resa's like, from a friend standpoint, I understand why she doesn't want to share, but from a colleague standpoint, it is fucked up. Yeah. Which makes sense, actually. he's basically saying like,

yeah, like you, I understand you don't want to share, but we're on a show where you have to share. So share. I and I don't think that they all share what's going on in their lives. No, I agree. I don't, I don't think that they do. So I think that's a bunch of bullshit. But I did like that. He said, I, um, I wish I could say these things. These are things I'm not going to talk about. And I should have set it up like that at the beginning, but I didn't. Because that means that she set that shit up in the beginning and her contract. Like, you're not going to shoot germane. You know, this is just about me.

And stuff like that. And he's like, well, I didn't think about it. So then Mike's like, oh, so you can't, you can't even talk about your baby or your man. And then Gigi's like, you know, like, I'm sorry about from the beginning. It's a big fucking contradiction. And then now Gigi's just yelling and screaming and waving her finger. It's like Gigi. Nothing's even happening, okay?

Gigi's the only person in the world that has the effect of anger from marijuana. I've never heard of that from anybody else. Everybody else is like, she's asleep. She, Gigi's also so dramatic. She's like, I have no question. I have a question. What do you want this show? We are giving the world a lot.

We're bleeding for the fucking world. I'm like, no, like let's, let's like, like, can you take yourself down from the cross, please? Okay, and you're bleeding. Could you keep stabbing yourself? You fuck getting it and You're bleeding because you keep stabbing yourself. You fuck getting it. You're bleeding because you try to scrape off your attached

to, okay? And the office is like, I don't bleed. And she's like, oh, we bleed. We do everything. I have position. Oh, and then the office is like, oh, okay. Do you want an answer? Do you just want to keep talking, babe?

And she's like, I'm bleeding for America. I'm giving everything. Yeah, GD. And I'm bleeding for America. I'm giving everything. Yeah, Gigi. But I walk in age when I walk in some off brand fashion show at the Beverly Hilton. I am bleeding for America. When I allow myself to be photographed in trash bags that are sewn together, I am bleeding for America. Did you not just hear me remind America to replace their ear batteries every three months.

I think I've done my, my do for America. Thank you, GG. Thank you, Asa. And also it's like, well, here's what I do. I have positions that are like social and economic. And like you guys want to downplay what I bring. But like I bring food and family and art and entrepreneurship. Like you know when people at Ross dress for less they were so

thirsty there was no four bottle four dollar bottle of water for them to drink while they waited into those really long lines because Ross is always understaffed I brought that to America and then my cuz like my cuz like that's all surface though that's all surface you know it's not like baby shoes yeah you just got your makeup done at Sephora. Please you've got brand new row of plugs and Do we hear like from Huey, Louis and Dewey? Please stop talking about surface. You fucking foolish it Instagram meme spouting Lier mic, okay? So then Andy's like well, you say what you bring that you don't say why you're dealing at Okay, Andy Jesus Christ. Aren't they giving this woman enough?

You know, what does anybody do it? Because they're fucking fame horrors who want to sell some silly product to America. That's why she's doing it. Why is anybody doing it? Yeah, exactly. Like why, like, what she wants to say is, it's easy money. I can try to like, you know, get like capitalized off of it with like some, my, my businesses. And I want to be famous because it's fun

Well, yeah, I mean she may not be giving her own life But she is the one who's like well look maybe we could help like Jewish and Muslim relationships in Israel or maybe we could Wear the Berkha and do a dance in front of the the Plot fresh and easy You know and like does the, what was that fresh and easy? You know what? Like, that's the real things, you know? And so now my, what basically Mike is essentially annoyed that what it comes down to,

that he's annoyed that he's still being labeled as a racist, you know, he's like, I bring real things, I bring, I'm real, I'm real, and now I look like a racist just because I want to talk about something real. And so then he starts saying, I may not like you, but I love you, Asa, like I love you, like I may not like you, but I love you, Asa. Like I love you. I may not like you, but I love you right now. And I love when Asa goes, all right,

that's a good one line. I just like shut up. Stop with these past all, I may not like you, but I love you. It's like I love that she called bullshit on that line. And then she said, and on top of that, she even said what we always say, she goes, every year you guys getting up on somebody,

last year everybody ganged up on you, when everybody ganged up on Gigi, I had her side, I'm the bounce in this group. Yeah, it's like your fan follower, you're a follower and he goes, I'm a leader. Okay. No, boo-boo, I'm a leader. He's like, whee. Like, it's like, whee, whee, whee. He's like, Germany loves me.

Like, he called me from a private number and I answered. Okay, whoa, you just won this case Yeah, so basically the next question is so also your fact What do you plan on doing next year and she's like you know where my brain is it's on my baby You know Andy's like if I don't feed my baby, he doesn't eat Okay, well are you sure you're not gonna come on one more year so you can start a greeting card line because that was pretty classic. And then she's like, yeah, the other night I was looking at videos on my phone.

And I got sad. Like, when is it not peanut butter jelly time? You know, and why is it banana care so much makes me sad? You know, because the baby, like, I don't have time to look at the phone all day. And at the end of the night, it's eye cloud. You know, because the baby like I don't have time to look at the phone all day and at the end of the night it's eye cloud. You know, it's not you cloud. It's a cloud.

And I was looking at you. Why can't it be weak out? I was on a bus, you know, where there's so many beautiful moments on so many buses with like pink lighting and stripper poles. But you know, without loyalty, there's no friendship. And MJ goes, oh, that's it. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, how dare she say without loyalty, there's no friendship. And MJ goes, oh, that's it. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, how dare she say without loyalty,

there's no friendship. You're the least loyal bitch on this show. Yeah, MJ says every time she says, basically says every time she opened her soul to Asa, she was trying to create a sisterly bond that would last forever. And Asa just didn't seem to care. And Asa's like, yeah, no, except you never did that. And then Mike does his thing that he does every year.

He's like, you know, first of all, he's totally like talking like this. It's like, by this point, he's like, you know, I'm sad about this group. We've said hurtful things to each other. Like, okay, that's how you guys ended every year. We've been so hurtful. I hope we just make up next year.

Nope, because you're sad and desperate and kiss-res's ass just like MJ to keep your job on the show. And if you didn't have to, you wouldn't be making up with him every year. And then I'm res, of course. You know, he's like, well, you know what, if you told me last year that I'd be talking to Gigi, I'd be like, no fucking way, motherfucker, like that's so Persian to be like, I'm done. But guess what? Now that I'm with Adam, I can do white things, like get over stuff. So if I can get over Gigi, I think there's hope for us and MJ.

We're all a family. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, gotta go. Bye. So after it's like dun dun dun dun dun. And MJ's like, that is the dumbest day of my life. Yeah, because you didn't get to fucking attack somebody for no reason MJ. You were the dumbest day of my life. Yeah, because you didn't get to fucking attack somebody for no reason, MJ.

You were the asshole in this situation, MJ. And she's like furious that they didn't take down Asa like she wanted, which is hilarious. And then Asa's like, goodbye, Shervin. Kiske's, goodbye, Mike. I don't think you're racist. I don't think you're racist. And he's like, good, because I'm not.

You know, and I apologize for making you feel that way. Like, however, you felt I was racist. Like, when I said everybody was going to hate your black baby and like, why would you do that? And like, why would you do that? God, Mike. So then Gigi's just like, thanks for coming to Lone. Thanks and acts like this might be the end.

And he's like, OK, I see you back home. So, and then, and then like the last shot is Osso just walking by MJ's door and not saying a thing. Dun dun dun dun. The end. The end. So a very stirring stirring shas of sunset reunion. So that show is over for the season. Well, you know every year when this show ends We think how are they gonna do this next year and top themselves? Like how is Reza gonna find a new way to ruin someone's life? And I have to say this year baby shaming somebody Yeah, practice you shaming somebody was new. I haven't seen that before So I've got to say well done. Well done, Castor Shasus, I'm set. Can't wait to see you.

Next year, next year, next year, MJ is in the hot hot sea, you know, because he last year was GG this year was awesome. So next year, it's gotta be MJ. It's gotta be back to MJ, huh? Yeah, because even Shervin got a little bit this year, but then they were like, eh, it's not as fun with Shervin. Let's go after MJ now. Or awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Shervin, I'd like that Resa also is like, well, I have to congratulate Shervin for hiring a PR person or whoever to make all of his answers for him because that was really good. And I know that he was probably being sarcastic, but he wasn't. He was like, congratulations. We all came here to tear you down. And we couldn't. We all came here to tear down Asa and we couldn't like you both actually leaving looking better than all of us. So it turns out that your man bond was so horrific. That we just couldn't be bothered taking you down because you had done it to yourself. Well, I hope that you're. Thanks FaceTime. Okay, because he owes it. Thank you, Kurt.

And that brings us to the end of the Shows of sunset. What a season guys. What a season. And that, you know, next week, we swap out Shows for real housewives of Atlanta on Mondays. That should be very exciting.

And I guess we're going to be doing. We do married to medicine on our bonus episodes since we have like an overload of TV shows for like the next few weeks. Wouldn't we do married to medicine in place of Shaws? What's going to go in place of Shaws? You don't want to do Atlanta in place of Shaws? Oh, they're on the same night. Yeah, girl. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what we do Atlanta. I think Atlanta is definitely on Mondays. That's for sure. And we'll have to figure out where married medicine gets,

you know, finds its way into the mix because it's right now until at least Dallas is over because Dallas has its finale tonight and then probably like two reunions. So probably three weeks of marriage medicine in the bonus, I imagine, and then it'll slide right in. We'll figure it out guys. So I'm the will. So, we'll...

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