Watch What Crappens - Straight Talk With Ross Crossover Bonanza

Episode Date: May 28, 2018

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Love your hearts. Okay. Now enjoy the show. And here we are. Hey, Matthew. Oh, these stuff so happy to talk to you guys, so happy. I'm so happy to talk to you. I know, this is so, I'm like, are you talking to me?

Yes, we talk every day. Thank you so much for coming on to our show. Of course. Very, very exciting for us. Well, we've been trying to make it happen. But then I saw you guys and then I did the big brother thing and then I was locked away and then I've been traveling. But finally, now we can sit down and chat.

I know, a story of our lives. We finally get a date with somebody and they was locked away and then I've been traveling. But finally now we can sit down and chat. I know, a story of our lives. We finally get a date with somebody and they're locked away from it. I wouldn't know this was a date, okay. Yeah, surprise. All right. I'm in to it. So of course we like normally talking about bravo shows.

Yes. But we love talking to you about anything. And so we were asking you what shows you watch so tell us because I have questions about these. Well, I watch, I love, like my favorite show on television is my 600 pound life, which is a show about really big people who go through like a gastric bypass situation. And I love, it's a like, follows him for a year. And so you get really invested in their, their lives, their, their marriages, their children, their decor choices, their eating habits, their slip ups, and I feel like

I relate so much that I also am into a 90 day fiance. I don't know if you watch this. You know, I actually have not seen it yet, but we have so many people telling us to watch it like all the time. I could not recommend it more. I do, I do impressions of some of them. I once you start watching, I'll do them for you. And it is just fascinating. If people don't know what it is, it's like, so say you go to Morocco for vacation, right? It's like, never been. So it's one of our, or say, and you, and you meet somebody, okay? And you fall in love with them and you want to get married. You, you move them here. You have 90 days in America to marry them before the visa expires. Okay. So it's that 90 day courting period. Most of them like are in a chat room and meet someone from Bangladesh

and then slide a Bangladesh. Right. Remind me to Google where Bangladesh is. It's just the side of India. Thank you. Well, you go there and you meet someone and then you bring them in. So it's about that 90 days. Will they marry? Are you marrying me just for status or what's going on? And the casting, like living in LA, exactly.

Living in green card. The casting is unbelievable. And thank you for dropping a jar of depardue reference. Thank you very much. It's important. It's important to say it. I picked it up. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Andy McDowell, never forget. Okay. She's back. She is. How dare you should never left? Yes, she did. She was in like a funeral. She was in a funeral and a vacation. Yes. She went to like her in her line or something, right?

I actually feel like I just read an article about Andam Kdow, how she left to raise her kid for a little bit. And now she's back. She is back. I understand. In my heart, she never left, you know, and she looks good. I feel like America put her like baby Jessica in like a pop culture well. Yeah.

Come on. Are you okay down there? I feel like we finally like hold her back up. But we love Nancy Travis back there. You know when you're traveling abroad and you're confused where are you and then you meet an American and they speak English and you're like, oh my god, we speak the same language thing. Yes.

When you said baby Jessica, I felt that way about you because that was baby Jessica was the first pop culture OMG moment of my lifetime. It was the first time I along with the world. Like I watched CNN with the rest of the world. It was like my first memory of like boy, remember boy in the bubble, the balloon boy, balloon boy. Balloon boy was amazing. I actually wish I was a little kid to watch that.

It was the first balloon boy. Right. We're due for something. I don't want anyone to watch that. It was the first balloon boy. Right. We're due for something. I don't want anyone to fall in a well. You're doing it saying? Yeah. But nine. I'm sorry.

I'm currently. Yes. Where we can all gather and watch it. Around to say something round. Yeah. Because I think that was something about the well, you know, you gather around. It's like around tables. Everybody could like it's no each other.

Like we're the same. You know, we're, we looked different and like maybe I'm gay and staff but we still are all jealous of this little bitch in a well who's getting all this attention. I don't know if we were jealous. I guess I'm leading for her. I was never jealous of baby just like what she do. Why do she? Why do she? Why do she on people magazines? I just don't understand how she felt. She's not well. She survived it. She did it. How did she get near the first place? This is always like, why was there not like an adorable stone wall around the well? Every time I'm near a well, I get nervous.

And I think a baby Jessica. Do you remember the first baby to fall into a well was baby Carrie on Little House on the Prairie? Oh, you know, a Lord that show. So baby Jessica is like, I roll. It's been done. Like, I'm it? It's a reality version.

She's the in sync to the that backstreet. Thank you. A little house on the prairie. I used to get mad too. Why? Cause it was like so fun, but then so sad. No, it was never sad. And then people go blind.

Yes, it was sad. It was it was sad for a minute, but then they picked it up and the best was in pot angles who was Michael Landon, with the tightest pants on television, would get, he would get like strong arm somebody who was a, a nerd who well, like somebody like, uh, who the, up to no good in hero township, he would, he would throw him up against the wall in the wood mill. And it got, I mean, I don't know, be, uh, just like, why did it, the tassel Poyingles hair. See, I grew up with, I grew up with rabbit ears on RTV. And so, like as a result,

we could only get like CBS NBC Fox, maybe ABC, and then like not a lot of other things. There wasn't much else, darling. True, but like, No, no, no, because there was a lot on WPIX in New York City and WOR. And so somehow as a result, as a result, yeah, as a result, I just never got a little house in the period. Never like came down the the

pike towards me. I cannot recommend it enough more. I can for the Olsen family alone. You have you have Nelly, you have Nell's the father. And then the real star of the Olsen family is Harriet. Olsen,. Yeah, right? Yes. She's still alive and kicking by the way. I just Googled her three days ago. Please, Samba, is she still? Yeah. Okay, what was the daughter's name?

I mean, I don't know what time it is now, but. But as of what she did, I looked at it. She's still doing well. Somebody check on her. No, we need to put Google alerts on things like that. I keep still saying like, RIP people who are still alive, I've just kind of assumed they're dead. Who does that?

She's good, loving kicking. Anyway, go back and watch it, it's great. Yeah, I know, it's like a huge, huge blind side in like blind spot in my pop culture awareness. Like the one who has the prairie, I've never seen Rocky. So yeah, it's like, a lot of things, a lot of things that I have not. I know you've never seen,

I've never, also the color purple, he's never seen that color purple. I've read the book though not to throw you under the wagon wheel. No, it's okay. I am gonna try to see it. It's a color purple square. I'm gonna rank those. Okay, I would do I would do a little house on the prairie. There's only like ten seasons. You know, you what is that time 22 episodes a year that's 220 episodes. Okay. And then because it's the longevity. No, we're not going to fight, but then the color purple closely closely. Okay. And then Rocky is a distant third, but, but Sylvester Stallone is very hot in a gross way. No, I believe that is.

Sylvester Stallone in the 70s had a specific look that was really worked. He needed to blow his nose, I think, through the whole movie. I don't know if it was a character choice, but something was off. But if he just looked at him, it was kind of, it was like peeps broken nose. Yeah, broken nose. His boxers with broken, they have that like broken nose. Like, I like, we can tell that a guy's just been punched in the nose in the like time since kind of cricket. Yeah. Because he could defend your honor. That's why I'm new on. Yeah. Yeah. Meal. None of them have ever done that. I'm saying there's a lot of crooked news people, but I think ever comes of it. Yeah. I think I used to have a crush on Sylvester

Stallone. I seem to remember remember when he had that movie Oscar with Mercer to me. Just gonna bring Oscar Molly Ringwall. I think within that two. Well, she I loved that movie. I thought it was hilarious. And I thought he was really hot in that. Uh huh. He's like in a suit. I'm re ranking for you. Okay. Just for that reason, I think you should do

Littlehouse in the prairie, all 222 episodes. How many of this? Then Rocky. And then color purple now. Listen, color purple is superior piece of art. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Okay, but that's the order for you.

But I feel like I get shamed about color purple, like very regularly. It's like it happens once a week where someone's like, you haven't seen color purple. And I'm like, I've got to see it. I'm going to see it. I will see it. And I always say, I've read the book as if that's going to send out a matter of. It doesn't matter. That's like saying, I saw the musical. Yeah, but I do want to see it. It's supposed to be the new version of the musical. See the movie. Okay. And because you spend two hours of your life and this conversation is done, you never have to have it. I know. I know. I know. Right. It's, it's, I feel like I'm doing it to myself. All you have to do is watch two inch and twenty two hours of

little house in the prairie. And then you can watch the color purple. I have a lot of like this conversation is never done. I will ask you every time. Remember that part in color purple? You've seen it or not. It's never done. It's such a good. It is so good. It's like kind of a musical. Yes. And whoopi Goldberg so good. She's a revelation. And that's the best Oprah's ever been. Uh, well, I have her life. She had to fight. I'll tell you this, uh, Geraldine Page won the Oscar for a trip to Bountiful that year. Robbed. Whoopi Goldberg was robbed. Yeah. I remember, I do know that there was that controversy. What was the best picture that year robbed. What be gold was robbed? Yeah. I remember I do know that there was that controversy. What was the best picture that year?

That was 1996. Best picture that year was out of Africa. Yeah. I can't believe I know that, but I do. No, that's like significant. Yeah, out of Africa, because I feel like color purple people people talk about that more. It's more about. It's more about.

Okay, no matter what I'm talking about. Thoughts on soap dish. Yeah, so that I. It's more about. Okay, now what are your thoughts on soap dish? Yeah, so that have women Oscar or not? So this should not have won an Oscar, but it won a special place in my heart. Yes, forever. Yeah, that's a great move. Another wippy goldberg. A wippy goldberg classic.

Yeah, you know, I don't win for one thing that you deserve to win the Oscar for, but then you do something random. She should have won the Oscar for soap dish. Yeah, she won the Oscar for ghost, but she could have had both. Sure. Why not? You know what she did have? Whippie Goldberg lunch with me once. Really?

True story. How was that? I ordered a Cobb salad chopped. That's nice. And she was a delight. Yeah. She ordered. It was fascinating.

She ordered like a bunch of sides, like a pancake and a side of bacon and a chicken salad. She was just like, can I get a scoop of this and a side of that and three pieces of bacon? I loved how she ordered. I thought, I'm pulling a whoopie next time. I'm scared to do that. I don't know why. I feel like if I get a bunch of sides, I feel like I have a decentralized meal. I don't know, is that weird?

It's decentralized. I don't know. You make a downtown center that that weird centralized. It's like I don't know I don't know down town center. It's like my mom or other sides to get. Yeah, I do like my mom will always do I'm just gonna have appetizers tonight. Mm-hmm, and I'm like I can't do it It's I feel strange doing that. I don't know why well It's great about when you do that is you can have like 25 appetizers and then when you get hungry a little You can have dinner. I went to the Boston market. I haven't really had dinner. I went to Boston market the other day on the way back from a road trip.

Oh my God, it was science heaven. I haven't been there in so long. Did you get the stuffing? Yeah, I got everything. I got like every side. The only thing I didn't get was like rotisserie chicken. I haven't had a chicken pot pie, which is not a side. That's a main.

Yeah, that's an okay. So I treated it like a side. So to walk me through your order. Okay. The chicken pot pie the stuff in stuffing chicken pot pie mac and cheese roasted potatoes cream with spinach for job Okay, my friend or how many when you're around that was for you. Yeah, I was from You know, you're after my settings. They gave me four for it Which is so nice because I didn't even have to lie like this is for my friend. Oh, you know, they're like, okay, here you bad ass.

That's the ultimate shame when they just give you four for it. They just assume it's for four people. Yeah. But that's also the ultimate in being 42. You're just like, give me everything. Can you rank, can you rank those items on what was the best from worst to best? Chicken pop high. Best. I couldn't believe it was so, oh, wait, from best the best from worst to best? Chicken pop pie was worse. I couldn't believe it was so.

Oh, wait, from best to worst or worse to bet. Oh, no, I can only say the best. And then I'm a very positive person. So I think I'll generate all the positive in the good. Okay. So chicken pop pie was best chicken pop pie was the best. I was trying to build suspense to the other one. Oh, they're all the same. You put cream and butter and anything and it's all the best.

All right. I like a list. I like knowing what's best. I forgot what else you have. We can go through the list again for me, please. The second pop high was the best. I think I like because the crust around the 10. Did you get cornbread? I did.

But it's only one. I'm not a monster. You forgot the cornbread on the first day. I was not to say, because I was like, I was having these moments because I used to go to Boston Market every week. That's a side side. Do they have Boston markets in Boston or they just call them markets?

They have American donuts. That's all they have in Boston. Everywhere you go, there's Dunkin' Donuts. Do you remember when Boston Market used to be called Boston Chicken? No. Well, guess what? You used to be called Boston Chicken.

It's true. It's 100% true. It used to be called Boston Chicken. I have to have that. I have to have something about my side side have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer.

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I have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer. I have to answer., totally the same. My life is full of pain. All my life I've had to fight. Yes, butter packages. Do you remember my pies, not being classified as a side dish even though it's only this big? Do you remember Cooquerue? Of course! Oh, do you know, here's a small story. Yes.

Quickly. I did my book. It's the best seller's man up. You probably read it. But you probably skipped this chapter. I, um, I loved Cucurine. It was like a were too sweet chicken place here with sides, okay? And when I was on somebody fit club and lost a ton of weight because they paid me to do

it right before I gand it all back. I was eating at Cucur all the time and I would order the butternut squash side because it was just nothing but butternut squash. I understand it's a device or people, it's a polarizing vegetable. I like a butternut squash, okay? So I would order it every single day and I walked in one time and they said, people, it's a polarizing vegetable. I like a butter nut squash. Okay. So I would order it every single day. And I walked in one time and they said, oh, it's been discontinued.

So I'm the Norma Ray of Cougarou, who always said it. And so I fought. And I called, I fought, you know, I fought and I called the number. And then I posted on my, at the time it was my blog, which was, you know, the Instagram of 2005. And I posted, hey, everybody call this number and say Ross wants his squash back. And they got so many calls. They had to change the automated phone, like press one for corporate press two for press three for calling about Ross Matthew squash. They

had to put do it. They did. They did. That's amazing. And then I get an email and they reach out to me. They say Ross were bringing the squash back. We're naming it Ross squash. And we wanted to do a campaign with you. My face was on buses all over Los Angeles. The squash is back. Ross. Wow. And what's still there until they close? I think I might be responsible for the dump all. I think maybe now all the consultants were like, if you lose the squash, you'll survive

the next 50 years. Let's put a hundred million into that squash campaign and receive a half of everything. other consultants were like, if you lose the squash, you'll survive the next 50 years. Yeah. Let's put a hundred million into that squash campaign and receive a half of everything I can cook a room. Cookers time is up. I loved cook a room, but I feel like it's long ago. I squashed it. I squashed it.

Well, by the way, no, you know what? People are dumb if they didn't like, who doesn't like butterna squash? I think it's actually what a champion. I think people don't like it because it's always an alternative for, you know, better thing. Like, to want better nut squash instead of french fries, or do you want better nut squash instead of yams with marshmallows on top? That's right there.

That's the reason people don't like butternut squash because when they try it, they're expecting a yam with the marshmallow. Yes. And that's not that. No, there are certain things when you, when you lose weight and you start eating healthy and you're like, oh, this food's not so bad. And then you start telling your friends like, Have you guys ever had kale? I'm like, Yes, do you, but then like two months later, it's like, fuck kale. You know what, kale's great and cornbread. That's what you're

telling yourself too much later. I was like, really? Yeah. No, I was like, you know, I was like, he's been a big, great idea. Ross is kale bread. Kale's not good at anything. What do you think of wet souls pretzels? Now that I have had, for me, it's about the dipping sauce. They have a honey mustard and they have the cheese. I'm just passed by it. I was like, hi.

Yeah, we're going to all those places. The salt is too thick. I'm just going to say, I'm going to say what everyone's thinking. The salt is too thick on those pretzels. It needs a fine result. But I'm fine with it. I know I'm taking a stand against sea salt yet. But sea salt, it's so sharp and gigantic in my mouth. It's like gravel.

Who does that? We're fine, your salt. So I guess in the normal way of sea salt too. Yeah. And my thoughts, if you think about it, I'll be the Sally field and not without my daughter. You know, another by the way, soap dish, tie in. Thank you. You know.

Wow. Yeah. You guys know, cause Sally Field. Can we talk about raging bull just to get catty morality in the mix, you know? Those are my people. I'm a professional. I'll head on myself professionally. Okay.

So I want to ask you some big brother thing. Oh, God. Yeah. Cause I did celebrity big brother. Yes. Yes. You did. Really? I was afraid no one was watching it.

Oh, I watched it. Not only did I watch it, I got my boyfriend. Actually, my boyfriend was one of the dancers in that first challenge. Oh, really? That I couldn't watch because I was holding onto a giant statue. Exactly. He was one of the people like flittering around behind Paul. I'm just back for you guys because normally, I mean, it's always a giant phallic object, right?

I think you have to hold on to and swing from in the first episode. And you guys got an Oscar. Yeah. I mean, when you're, they literally gave them a big hot dog to hold on to. Yeah. Yeah. That was hard. Those challenges are really hard.

The holding on to them. Listen, what I was saying really quickly is when I say, I'm so glad you watch. I was in the house not knowing if it was like the biggest stupidest flop in the world, because they'd never done a celebrity big brother here in the States or people were watching it. I was assuming because Omarosa was there, people were watching it and I'm thrilled to hear that you guys did. No, actually people were watching it and there was buzz about it. Like there was, I felt that there was buzz in terms of like influencers, in terms of like

chatter as they say on like Instagram and then big on Twitter. I was actually really into it. I was so impressed that what was it? Three weeks, a three week. 29 days. 29 days. I could not believe that a 29 day season could like be so good. That could like, time you know, because I'm like a big brother super, super fan.

Yes. You know, okay. Then let's talk about this. Okay. Who should have won? Well, obviously between that, those between the two find lists. Yeah. Who was me in my, in my beloved, uh, Marissa Sherat. When I woke up. Obviously it should have been you. And I'm actually not even saying

that because you're here. The people I was actually rooting for, I was rooting for you in Umarosa. I, I, I, you want to know. I was rooting for Umarosa. And I'll tell you why really honestly, honestly, I was with her for a a month share a toilet with Umarosa for a month and then tell me where she was going. She was bullying you that whole time. She's an asshole. Umarosa. I don't know.

She's consistently. You know, it's funny. So I actually met Umarosa a few years ago. She's delight. And when you said that on like the first episode or so and you said, you know what? Umarosa so far, she's been wonderful. I was like, I had an amazing experience.

I thought she was really lovely. So when you said that, I was like so far, she's been wonderful. I was like, I had an amazing experience. I thought she was really lovely. So when you said that, I was like, ah, it wasn't just me. Watching her on the show, and I don't know what it was like really in the house, but as it was presented to us, the outsiders, what I liked about Amarosa is that this is like, this is her arena, and she was just so skilled at being on Amarosa. This is her arena, you know, and she was just so skilled at being on a rosa, you know? Yes, it was fascinating.

She is the best at what she does. I don't know what exactly that is. She is the best at it. And she, like, I've never told this story before, so I'll tell you guys, okay? This is something that didn't even make it the air, but it was something that she did that was just so typically omorosa. And I think we're on good terms, I think, which is great. Okay. But like, so we all knew it was like the last episode, right? And she didn't win the Vito I won the final video. So she knew we were going to get her out. Okay. And it was the final episode she made

to the final she was going to be on every episode. So she didn't care. Okay. But then she was still playing the game. Like she said, she sat us all down and she goes, hey guys, I just don't want it to be unanimous. So can one of you vote for me to stay, Marissa and Ariana and one of you, or Mark, and then one of you vote for me to go and then Ross will break the tie just so it's not like unanimous. So I was like, no, when do we want to do that? So then she split us up and she went to Mark and was like, Mark will you do it? Mark goes, no, I won't. So then she came to us and goes, Mark said he would do it. So and then she was like saying, Mark's

going to vote for me to stay. So you vote for Marissa out. And then you vote for the so people would get so confused that the votes would get much stuff. And she would say, I mean, she was just constantly. I love that. That's why I love watching. I love when someone does that. It was crazy. So I gathered everyone was like, what? Nobody's voting for Omarosa stand out. Do you understand me? Like that? And they were like, God, got it. Yeah. I didn't get like that towards the end. And I liked that you were like, here's because people are on how to play. Yeah, you got to do it. Well, these people are never so serious. But also on Marosa was like, oh, really Ross, you want to let go? Oh, really? You're like, Donna, you don't look like Ross Ross, you don't like go really Ross. Remind me.

Who got her out of the house? Oh, I did. Yeah. Um, you know, what was interesting to me is also the the fall of Shannon Elizabeth, because in the beginning, she was like a power player and she was I was like, she is awesome. She's doing great. And she really like, she became such like a sad, simple ring mess. It was bizarre. Let me tell you the situation.

She was lovely. She was lovely. I really, really liked her. And I knew she was the strongest player in the game. And I thought, God, I hope, God, when I get power, I'm going to have to go after her. I just, because you have to play this game. And it's going to be such a shame.

But she loves this game. And just like if someone had gotten me out of the house, I would have shaken her hand and said, listen, best move you could have done because I was going to go to the end. Now go win the whole thing. So I thought she loves this game. It's going to suck, but she, I know that's just how she's going to handle it, right? Yeah. She didn't, that didn't happen. She didn't handle it that way. She took her really personally

and she's still not talking to me. She's still not talking to you. And then this is when I felt bad for two months and Marissa just sent me a link of Chanel Elizabeth in the house that is saying like, I got to get wrought out. The rossum is like, gotta go. And I'm like, this whole time I've been feeling horrible for two months. And she was coming after me. I was glad when she, okay, two things, one.

So I don't feel bad about it. It's classic when everybody's like, my God, they're the best player in the game. And then they get kicked out like halfway through. So that was good. I like that they stuck with the classic. But two, why is she such a good player? You know, I don't like when so much just comes in their athletic and she can hold on to a fucking valic object for the longest. And then everyone's like, she's really smart. She was scheming too. She was like strategic. Yeah, she was. But here's the deal. The truth is she wasn't the best player in the house because she let everybody know she was the best player in the house on episode one. she wasn't the best player in the house because she let everybody know

she was the best player in the house on episode one. If you're the best player in the house, you lay low, make friends with everybody, and they come on strong at the end. Yeah. That's the best player in the house. Exactly. Yeah, you know who I could not stand on the show. And I was surprised because I looked on it like the polls.

I think on Joker's updates. And he was very popular, I think. But I don't even remember his name now. What was the hot guy? James Maslow, who is delightful? Is he really, oh, delightful? He drove me, that's a bossy bottom right there. Like, no offense.

Oh my, he drove me nuts the entire time. I swear to God. He is, he's very on. It felt like he's very on like, I feel like he's the kind of guy to yell at you in the Whole Foods parking lot. Like, he's just like really straight parker. You know, like, he's the kind of guy to yell at you in the whole foods parking lot. He's just like really straight parker. You know, like he's one of those guys.

He's like, it's called a means guard. He's just standing too close to the buffet. But he's actually a nice guy. Yes. I mean, we don't have bazillion things in common, but like he was, he was like, you both like boy bands, I would assume, right? He's like boy bands. Yes, of course.

And we have. We, he was fine. like boy bands, I would assume, right? Boy bands. Yeah, of course. Hello. He was fine. It makes me sad though, that like season after season after season on Big Brother female alliances just cannot do it. I think it's, if you look at it, because even the ones that were kicked off, it was girl power. Like it was good use of girl power.

That's why I probably wouldn't take immerse it to the final. And she knows it because they told me from episode one, remember, I joined the women's alliance because the numbers, how do you go with the numbers at first? And then in the room, they were saying, maybe the best woman win. We wanted woman to win. And I was sitting there thinking like, yeah, that was the sure point. And it was right. Right. And so I was like, well, then I got to bring this alliance up. I got to give everybody out. Yeah. And they also had just a recent girl power season, right? It just one recently. Well, And they also had just a recent girl power season, right? It just won recently.

Well, the thing is this, at the beginning of the season, there's usually guys who get together and are like, we're gonna be guys, we're gonna stay strong, like four horsemen, stuff like that. And they usually can stay pretty, like, they can stay pretty strong throughout the season. But they'll always be like, you know what? For once, let's have a group of girls go all the way from the beginning to the end. And then by episode three,

they're already at each other's neck. So I'm trying to do that. Well, I wish that to happen. I would love it if fan for that to happen. It just was not gonna happen on my season. No, not on your watch. Or on the races. That's not really a strong girl power.

Or I said, I don't think. I don't know. I think she was trying a new thing. So maybe she would have spent like a, celebrity beef. You never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court. I'm Matt Bellasife. And I'm Sydney Battle, and we're the host of Wonder e's new podcast, Dis and Tell.

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Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or Wondery app. I'm trying to create your amorecity. Speaking of girl power, do you wish the real housewives been a chance? I do. I watch occasionally. I used to watch all the time, and then I kind of got to know most of them, and then it could be uncomfortable to watch.

It felt like I was reading their diary. Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting. Yeah. Like seeing a friend who I had dinner with who was perfectly lovely and delightful, like throwing drinks and acting a fool. I just was like, oh, God, I felt bad. Yeah.

Well, it's hard to like, is that awful to say? No, it's the truth because when we meet people from there and they're lovely, they're always always, but they're always just, they're always the same as they are in TV. And I don't mean their actions like throwing, you know, we're being rude or caddy to us or anything, but people wouldn't you think, oh, they're just putting it off for TV. No, they're not. Like, they're hired because they're re, you know,

they're really, my experience was that I knew some before they were on and they were like normal people and then they weren't no longer normal. And so that's why I was just like, oh, I couldn't. You don't wanna watch there like descent. It's like watching people like making horrible life choices and mistakes. Yeah. So what'd you think would be fun?

Right. But I like to watch strangers do that. Yeah. I don't like watching that in real life because guess who they call. They call you. You're single. You're not doing anything. It's like before you know it, you've got five crazy people trying to like call in.

Can I ask though, who's, because I know enough from, like, you know, I, I know pop culture, I watch, I watch, culture, I watch, and you know, I like ranking. Did you give me your top three housewives of all time? I love my own ranking,

and yes, she should be a housewife. I love my own ranking. And yes, she should be a housewife. Let's, and ranking is okay. So do, do, and then we're going to do it this way. Three, two, one. I see. I see. Okay. Oh, Let's and ranking is okay. So do number and then we're gonna do it this way three two one Okay, three Ben's really good. Okay number three and I'll go me do the same

It's you know it's funny. It's easier for me to go one two three, but I think okay I'm gonna see who's number three. I can I know who my two is. I know my number one is Three so hard to rank it's like going to a dog pound and like trying to pick which three should be put down. It's also hard because like, I, my mind always goes to what's the current housewives that are on. No, all time. And my number one is a throwback. I understand it's not, I'm not gonna say anymore. My number one is going to surprise you. But I just found her so watchable. Okay. Carlton Gebbia. You don't mean you don't mind? Yeah, yeah. I want yours. So my number three of all time easily Savannah just because I love her. Yeah. I can watch her do anything. I just find her fascinating. And I like how she's like, I'm going to say, okay. Okay.

Number, do you want to say your third? I'm not a third. Okay, go say third. I think I'm going to do Ramona singer. Oh, God, that's good. Shit. I feel it's like, I know there's some like great, great, great, great house. I was out there, but Ramona has anyone consistently brought the crazy season after season after season after season. Oh, I'm shaking the records. Oh, really?

Because as dark as it got, she still has the funniest gifts. And she made chicken salad with her hands. Yeah. Okay. And I still say, just throw my house. Okay. So that means something, right? Okay. Number two for me is Neenie Leaks of all time.

I just think she's always good. She's always stirring it and she always gives great soundbite. I think she's a star. She's a soundbite winner for sure. She's a, she, her interviews are fantastic. She's fallen for bite winner for sure. She's a, her interviews are fantastic. She's fallen for me because she, I feel like she's gotten a little too in her own head about like being like, she's become too much like a diva in a way that's not like a diva

in the show. She's like a diva about like her celebrity outside the show, which is like not as appealing to me anymore. She's still like a top tier housewife, of course. I don't know. They're fun me not just really super evil. Like when she called that lady a half breed. Well, that's awful.

But you know what I like in my housewife is I like, but from between season one and season 10, I liked them to have left once and gotten a new face. Oh, that's nice. You know, I mean, that's totally. It's like the 2018 Toyota Camrys are here. Yes. At least the camera's the big tent event. It's the queen of that as well.

Like if you look at old seasons and every season. Allegedly, we don't know. Yeah, I think she's only had some like little updates. I don't think it's like a whole like you guys. Please watch just even a clip from the first season. It's like, who is Lisa Rina got in trouble? Because she watched a whole first season. Because she'd never seen it. So she was watching it on her Snapchat or Instagram or something. Before she joined every time Vanderpump came on,

she was like, who's that? No, seriously? Who's that? Like she kept writing nasty things on that. And Lisa Vanderpump was my favorite. But is that you number one? She's my number two. My number one. Your number two. Okay. Number two is Lisa Vanderpump because she's just like effortlessly fabulous. She's just, she just somehow they come for her every, every season it feels like and she just can, they just can't get her. She's funny. She's glamorous. She's Lisa Vanderpump.

I love her. I'm sick of listening to her talk about those damn adopted dogs though. So how dare you now come on. I need more of a life. I don't like it. Just being like, Does that an area of it's like, I wanted to wear a few repussy bows. I wanted to be like when she went to the DMV or, because I was funny.

You want to do real things real, really. She's horrified by poor people and you know public spaces. Yeah. My number one. It's real. She's horrified by poor people and you know, public spaces. Yeah. My number one is also I'm telling you a rain and an ranking number one and then also a plea to bring her back. I think it's under, do you know who to say? I think I know what you're going to say. It's not fair if it's your friend. It's not my friend. I met her, but I just just someone who's not on the show anymore. Not on the show anymore. And I think was so good when she was on the show and I miss it, especially with someone who's like, do you know what I'm going to say?

Do you want to say it? You're going to say it's Jill Daren. I love Jill Daren. I wanted to come back to you. I wanted to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you.

I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I want to come back to you. I love Jill Zaren. I'm broke. Come on. Now Bobby got the rest in peace. Bobby is that's so sad.

Bobby now shows, so she's, it's a Jill Zaren 2.0. It's this new point in her life. Yeah. Right. I'm Beth. There's no change. There's no change. Wouldn't you like, she just always.

I'm very prone. Thank you. Very, I mean, here's the thing. That's the first thing again. So the first two seasons of New York, Jill Zaron, people forget sometimes Jill Zaron was just a bench. Everyone loved her. She was sort of like a Yenta, but she, but there was something lovable about her. And just like Jill Zaron, she was kind of like the center of that show. And then, you know,

then she started to get caught up in this fight with Bethany. And then thing she started to get like a little obsessed with fame, which is where she started to go downhill. And then people ever since then have been like, she's so thirsty. She's so thirsty. And now everyone just hates her. But I feel like if Jill Zaren came back, we could remember why we liked her. Yes. And a house like being thirsty shouldn't eliminate you from being on the show. Hello. Hello. Hello. It's free refills. I mean, that's how it's going to be.

I'm orange genius. Thank you. I have a theory with her is she would just got too dark at the end of her season of New York. She was just making up this. Making up. Oh my God. She had just made up this whole stupid reason to fight with Bethany who look, I don't mind

coming for Bethany. Go for her. But it's just the screaming and the yelling and the viciousness. It just made me uncomfortable. And that's hard to do with me. The franchise can handle it now. That was a different time in all of our lives. I think we all handle it. And I think it's different time in Jill Zaren's life. You know what? I think that's great. I think you're absolutely right. It was different time in for Jill Zaren for the audience, for Bravo, for New York and America. Let's go back to basics. All right. I love basic and let's bring Jill Zaren for the audience for Bravo for New York and America. Let's go back to basics.

All right. I got to love basic and let's bring Jill Zaren back. Yeah. I listen to New York is just like the best franchise of the mom. My number one is Countess the Wanda. The sense. Oh my God. That's good. To me, I mean, like, I mean, honestly, you could probably take anyone like

Dorenda, if Dorenda were, didn't have all these amazing icons around her, she could probably be a top three housewife of all time. To me, Countess Luanda. Yeah, I'll give Dorenda my two. I don't think I gave anybody a two. Did you not give it to me? No, he still seen it. He liked Dorenda.

You never know who to pick. I end up loving them all. Yeah, well, Countess Luanda, here's a woman who started off at the wasp heights of being a Countess. Her husband's the sign of the family that dug the Panama Canal. She releases a book about class and manners, then releases dance songs,

and then it just goes down from there. And I mean, like her entire, she's up with a pirate. I mean, she's up with a pirate. How does that get woven into your story? You know? Yeah. It's like watching her hit, right?

It's also watching the most self-righteous person ever kind of become cool. Yeah, like when she went downtown and that Let the jacket with tassels. Do you know that? Oh, yeah, with her niece. Yeah, that was a fun time. Yeah Downtown Jacket. I would go downtown. I remember when they used to all say that. Yeah I have to say we went and saw hashtag counters and friends and Yeah, I have to say we went and saw hashtag countis and friends and highly recommend it. I have been in her home I have had like a lunch with her. No Ross. No Ross. I never knew what a top you were. Yeah Guess who we know president Obama he's sleeping at my house right now. Oh really? I'll text him

Yeah, he's saying I'm ready doing it. I'm just doing it. To see what he has to say about that. Are you going to fact check with Michelle? You bastard. I don't believe that. Yeah. I think we're, should we wrap it up? We'll keep you here all day.

Yeah. You know that right? You'll never leave. Listen, this conversation, unlike my virginity took forever to happen and was actually worth it. It was worth it. It was so good. It's a point. I know. I promise I promise I will watch the color purple for next time. Thank you. I would like a movie report

like a book report about about a movie. I will. I will give a color purple movie report by Ben Mandelker. Okay, then we'll do a full episode. So everybody follow Ross at Hello Ross on Twitter and Instagram. What else do you like to follow? Well, I also, I have a podcast too. It's called Straight Talk with Ross and it is hilarious and stupid and fabulous. We talk about pop culture. We play games.

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How have you seen that movie? So yeah Why don't like she's in a radio station in James Woods, you know, that's it. Yeah, I haven't seen steel magnolios Oh my god, so you I've blind spots. You're trying to force a bright. So we haven't seen see a magnolios color purple straight talk or a little hot in the prairie, but we bond is over baby Jessica. Let's be back. Yeah. Hey, like that. Well, like that. Well, let's bring it full circle. Oh, I have bonding FOMO. I have bonding FOMO. Jessica, Jessica, Jessica. All as well that ends well. Just keep throwing little wags of paper down there. Jessica, I got you some water. Jessica, you thirsty?

Oh, I just, I just taunted her now. They're like finally running through enough diet coke cans down there for her to crawl out of the well. There's like a reverse repunzel. So you get for falling? Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's a well. All right, everybody, thank you much.

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