We Might Be Drunk - Ep 193: John & Dave Chernin (Always Sunny/Incoming)

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Netflix Movie Incoming! premieres on August 23rd. Written and Directed by our guests John and Dave Chernin. These guys wrote your favorite episodes of Always Sunny in Philadelphia (Rum Ham!). They created and wrote The Mick! and they are back to writing on the new season of Sunny. This episode has a lot of great stories and some great insight for writers and people into comedy. Watch the movie on the 23rd. Quotes from Sam Morril: "I've watched it twice, it's the best comedy in years. Funny as hell, has heart. Great in the way Superbad and Mean Girls are great. Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Vc11HVEYo Podcast Sponsors: Control body odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo DRUNK at https://www.shopmando.com #mandopod Support the show and start your free online visit today at https://www.hims.com/DRUNK Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWMBD WMBD March: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/ WMBD Clips Page: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: YouTube Channel: @sammorril Instagram: https://instagram.com/sammorril/?hl=en Tickets/Tour: https://punchup.live/sammorril/tickets Mark Normand: YouTube Channel: @marknormand Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marknormand/?hl=en Tickets/Tour: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets We Might Be Drunk is produced by Gotham Production Studios https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com/ @GothamProductionStudios Producer Matt Peters: https://www.instagram.com/mrmatthewpeters/?hl=en

Yo! Hey, hey folks! We might be drunk, we're here, we're queer with the churnin'! Don and Dave Churnin' new movie? Yes, indeed. On Netflix? Yeah. That was nice. Netflix, August 23rd. Whoa! Happy to be here. Well done. You've been havin' us. I know, we're sellin'. How the hell do you sell a movie? We wrote a movie, we don't know what we're doin'. We read your movie, it was what funny. Yeah, that's high praise to get a comedy scripts

Oh way for once dude. I don't personally have the money to make But it was funny a lot of laughs, oh, hey, well, you know we rewrite and rewrite but yeah, that's the process We're pretty happy. It's joke heavy. Yeah yeah so if you don't know the churnin wrote probably at least three or four your favorite sunny episodes maybe more I mean more let's say more do this your least favorite but no I seriously think the Jersey shore up that's fucking rum yeah it's a classic yeah classic you've done so many that I mean what I've taught my head what I wrote some of them down, so I don't want to do this, but what are some more you wrote? We did my favorite we wrote that we did Thunder gun Express. That's a fucking classic. We did saves the day we did

Time share, but it's a group We can't take too much credit Yeah, kind of you get you all work on them together and then slap your names on the ones. How big is that writers room? We're actually going back. We've been gone for like eight years and we're going back next week to do the new seasons.

What is this? We're excited and I think- 15? 17. 17. Yeah. I think there's six or seven writers this year plus the three guys.

It's a fun room. Gotcha. Very fun room. I like a smaller room. Yeah. In smaller rooms it gets tricky. six or seven writers this year plus the three guys it's got you know very fun I like a smaller room yeah rooms it gets tricky you don't let the lady right one lady very talented young I think we really do only have one woman writing on the show this year no I think there too there's no look at that you're safe yeah he could transition never know we did have one or two seasons where it was all dudes and that was no good. It's not good now.

It gets kind of gross. It gets off the rails. I went to an all boys school and the jokes you make, you're like, I can't bring this anywhere. Yeah. Right. Not even good jokes. At a certain point you need a nice split to keep everybody on their tracks.

But all the same race But yeah, we say you how is the pitch for the the movie because we we're gonna have to pitch ours We just wrote it. Oh, okay. We just wrote it and sent it around and like it was pretty good We got a lot of phases is really funny, but we don't make these kinds of movies Yeah, right up against that, but yeah, we found spyglass was really cool Oh, I kind of came in at the end and we're like, well green light this today Can we watch a minute as a trailer? Is that okay? Sure for it. What's that bell rings? We're in high school. You know what that means? Anything is possible She's a sophomore man, It's never gonna happen.

She hasn't met the new me. I don't want to dance around anymore. Ow! For a second there, I thought you might have been fucking the door. Can you leave? My parents went out of town this weekend. My brother's throwing a massive rager. New clips on my 3 plus 1. I'm out. I think I think I'm out too man we're the only freshmen invited that's

wrong make my move on Bailey you're gonna earn your brother's respect oh you're gonna stop being scared and you're gonna lose that shitty nickname what up fetus hey boss when you're writing that do you picture this while you're writing it picture like oh we're gonna have a trailer it's gonna look like this No, we pictured fetus Struggle to find that kid That guy was hard to find it's it's tough to say like we need like a 13 year old Joe pesci Yeah, there's also a kid in our high school who got the nickname fetus

So we had like a very specific image in our head and it was hard to replicate. Tough nickname. Yeah. This is great though. Coming of age, the kids are gonna love it. Oh yeah, we're checking all the boxes. We'll see. August 23rd, once again.

And then it'll disappear into ether around the 25th, 26th. Yeah, we'll move on. You'll get your moment in the sun on the Netflix Top 10. That's all just grab bag after that just shifting I feel like they don't make these types of movies though right now I just saw that Vince Vaughn interview Yeah, like where he's like every movie they make is like Battleship

It has to have like IP right but it's so true that like these are they always end up being your favorite movies if you're In high school or cut like super bad or you know American Pie remember? Oh, hey, it was big. Oh my goodness. It's been a minute for sure in high school or like super bad or you know American Pie remember when high school was big? Oh my goodness. It's been a minute for sure. Yeah. Look at that, it's a big old cube.

Do you get approached to be like, hey do you want to write a movie about, jeez, barely fit, never had that experience. Like the big dick guy. But do you get approached to be like, hey do you want to write this like shitty IP thing ever or no? Oh, yeah, what's like the one you got? You land candy land How is candy landy I don't even understand that could be a movie You know we thought the same I remember years ago someone asked us if we'd be interested in in Legos

And that's the dumbest idea ever enough that turned out well. Yeah, that's true It's a good point some interesting like rewrite or not rewrite reboot stuff gets pitched to us and sometimes They're just like you guys want to reboot Ferris Bueller's day off, and you're right. Are you out of your fucking mind? Yeah, but every now and then like there's like a bad 80s movie or a decent like license to drive or something comes around That would be an okay reboot. I think that's good You could improve that yeah, that was already shit beloved classic yeah Making like back to school. I'm like

All Rodney sacrilegious daddy shack is thrown around a lot. Yeah, yeah They redid a white man can't jump and right that one well that really came and went in two seconds are The guy who produced this movie with us Connor Welch revealed when that came out. He's like white men. McCan't Jump is my favorite movie ever made and we're oh interesting I like that big poor. I love that movie. I can quote that movie every line We do a lot of Stookies And a hook shot title by the way you guys brought this in I appreciate absolutely We know better than to show up and sure

Well you brought this oh, thank you boys Hey, mom itself. I was Interested to see if you guys are actually going to be drinking it at noon on a on a week. Yeah, I need it It's one of those to you. Yeah, this is yeah. This is like a cabernet cask. He said this is crazy I know nothing about it Bourbon and a wine cast what are what are the limes for do you guys often pair limes with a whiskey? We do a whiskey soda like a lime interesting. Yeah, I'm a lime guy as well like that And congratulations on your way. Hey, thank you. Thank you. We're sold out, which is kind of a good sign

Yeah, you worked it into the movie which yeah I'm shitting on on people riding around a stupid thing. I'm like anyway our bodega cat movie That's oh yeah, two-hour commercial You always son you guys were always great at that like integrating products into the show and then selling them on the side Like what do they sell? They did the dick towels. Oh yeah, that's right. They always have a few of those.

A lot of merch coming out of that show. Yeah, there's so many, I mean there's so many great, you did the skiing episode too, right? We did that one, yeah. That's a fucking, that's a great episode. Thank you. I mean, pull up the Dennis monologue with the, what is it, with the woman about I will enter you?

Clean. Yeah, you must be clean. I don't think we can take credit for that speech. I think that's David Hornsby. Oh nice. He's awesome. Yeah. That's a great, this is a great scene.

Roger, I want you to clean yourself, for I will enter you hard and deep. It will last for as long or as short as I please. But you will be clean. Only when you are clean will you know my power. That's fucking great. The power thing, that was a true story from one of the girls in the writers' room. Some guy said that to me.

He said, I want to give you my power. Really? Wow, I gotta stop using that. Holy shit. So how did you guys, I mean I don't go James Lipton on you, but how did, did you write a spec script to get hired? Yeah. In the days of spec scripts. In the days of spec scripts. And it was like early enough that I don't think there were a ton of sunny spec scripts going around. Right. But yeah, wrote a spec script, got hired to work as Rob McElhenney's assistant. What? On another show that they were doing and then we just kinda kept nagging them. Yeah. They gave us a script on Sonny.

Damn. Really? You just kinda were like, hey, can I write? We had, you know, they were really cool when I was their assistant and knew we wanted to write They would let you write scenes for episodes every now and then Yeah, they're just really cool about ushering young people into that room. See you hear that kid just got to get in the door Yeah, you know assistant you mean writers assistant or I was I was the writers assistant on another show they did Oh, they going nowhere got it Sonny meets Star Trek. I remember it for a minute Yeah, it was really funny. We wrote a bunch of them and then kind of repurposed them for Sonny over the years

but yeah, then I was right assisted on Sonny and then John came on we wrote a script together and then He came on season 5 season 6 wrote a script season 5. Yes. Yes. Damn. Yeah, I wrote a How I met your mother spec script years ago and I figured, hey, this show's not that funny. I could do this. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the move. Or writing a fucked up how I met your mother.

Right. Like, the name of the spec was always the 9-11 Seinfeld. Yeah. What? I don't even know this. Someone wrote a 9-11 Seinfeld. Yeah. What? I don't even know this. Someone wrote a 9-11 Seinfeld spec. That's already funny. Like, yeah, like years after it had been off the air.

And it was genius. What? There are a couple other Sunny writers who wrote a Golden Girls Gone Wild script. Whoa. Yeah, Rob Persepolis. And that was hilarious. Cause you're just showing your funny in it, right?

That's all, because it's not used for anything. I mean, we would take meetings with writers who wrote, like someone wrote a script about a talking vagina, and we were like, well, we need to meet these women. Like, that's weird, that's out there, that's funny. At a certain point, anything you can do to stand out from the 100 other scripts, I think, is the move. I think we gotta shoot this 9-11 science.

Can we get our hands on the script? What? Yeah. Whoa man. Very quick good for you. 2016 I would have thought earlier than that. Yeah. Maybe that's a rewrite. You got to give it a little time. Just needs one more polish. So when you read scripts like what do you guys want to direct also or just write? We want to direct. We directed the movie, but mostly because I think in TV, the writer just has a lot more power, and in movies, it kind of gets cast aside,

so we wanted to have as much creative control, I guess, as we can, but we didn't know what the fuck we were doing when we got into directing a movie. I knew I was fucked when I was watching like a James Cameron master class the night before That's great, I do love those master classes they're great. They're great the Steve Martin ones amazing I gotta watch it. Oh, there are the Aaron Sorkin ones great

But it went well, I think I think so. Yeah, we'll find out very soon. Yeah. Yeah, check it out Is it exciting you could be the movie of this generation or whatever that could be you guys. Can anyone be that anymore? Yeah, I hope so. It's definitely a movie that's not getting made these days. Exactly And I think if you get memed if you'll make memes out of your movie you've made it. I'd love a meme. Meme is big. Somebody meme our movie, please. What? I think everybody's worried about us getting canceled and I think we should be so lucky. Yeah. I don't think that's happening anymore.

It seems like we're a little past it. Yeah. If you fuck a kid, you should maybe get canceled. Over jokes? Like, come on, what are we doing? You know what? And I wanna see the kid first. The kid, how attractive is a kid?

Yeah, good point. Were they pushing the legal envelope? No, but seriously, I mean, as Mark said, they don't make these movies anymore, and people need these movies. I do wonder that this generation doesn't care about movies the way we grew up really. I don't think they do.

No. But it's just a bummer. Like, we grew up, like, Mark and I are obsessed with like old Hollywood and the stories about making The Godfather in Chinatown and all that shit. We grew up with like, you know, I think, you know, being kids of the 90s,

we had great comedies at an age. Shaped me. Yeah. Something about Mary Dumb and Dumber, all that stuff. I mean those guys are our heroes, the Fairly Brothers. Oh really? Yeah, I actually worked for them right out of college, which was awesome.

How did that happen? I was just like running around begging everyone I knew, Yeah, I actually worked for them right out of college, which wow and there that happened Uh, I was just like running around begging everyone. I knew like do you have a job for me? Do you have someone I can meet who might have a job and after like 30 people? I bumped into one of their producers this guy Bradley Thomas Who's the man and he was like hey you can come work for me. Wow amazing. Yeah, they had a killer run I mean dumb and dumber Kingpin Mary out of the gates. Insane. It's never been a better one, two, three punch.

Me, myself, and Irene underrated. Awesome. We said that all the time. Incredible Jim Carrey performance. Oh, those. Insane. Their dicks are bigger than those sausages right there. But I don't know, I feel like the kids haven't had enough quality comedy to latch onto, so maybe they'd be interested

It's kind of yeah, what's weird how kids now they watch Seinfeld and friends. Yeah, they're in the office They're going backwards to shit. Oh, yeah It's funny like with Jerry getting dragged for supporting Israel lately like I'll see in the comments sometimes They're like can we be done with this guy? He's not even funny That's the best show ever made. It's great Not only that but some of his stand-up clips pop up his Olympic medal That popped up that popped up for me too because the Olympics do pull up this clip is just sign It's like a 15 second clip. It's it's such a perfect

It's Seinfeld Olympics. It should be a 15 second one, but it's it's such a perfect Seinfeld bit some of the bits in the show are dated, but you know This is a short one Well they Stitched it with the it actually happened the joke he tells actually what happens on the Olympics with the Noah with Noah Wiles Whatever his name is Who won the rail yeah, that was pretty cool though. Oh, yeah, the guy who shit-talked all the NBA That's what Josh Hart who's my guy next fan. He was like he's like nah. He got a gold medal. Let him talk

He did the anime Whatever world would not what is it called Z Dragon Ball Z? Yes, well it's anime is interesting cuz it's the toughest people and the nerdiest people love it. A lot of range. There we go. Silver, gold. This is the whole race. Gold, silver,

bronze, dead last. Greatest guy in the world. Never heard of him. Hahaha. That's perfect. Is that the guy from the 9-11 Seinfeld? Hahaha. That's perfect. That's a great bit.

I got his book recently. Great bathroom read. Is this anything? Yeah. You can read a sentence and put it down very satisfying. Well that's a perfect book. Yeah. He had another book called sign language, which is just his act on paper No one has gotten more money out of their act then side Harlan did the same thing Carlin is like four of them That's true But then he did another he did a special called like the Seinfeld early years

And it was like his old act and not his new I'm like man this guy can milk And they didn't have one called I'm telling you for the last time that was that one. Oh, yeah So he writes an act and he's gonna get everything out of it's like the great depression in a few years He's like all right one more ride. Yeah One more yeah, exactly. It's like when kiss does reunion tour last one The 19 yeah, what were the what were the movies that made you want to get into making comedy movies? Oh, man, certainly those Farrelly's are the big ones. We always reference. Yeah, we yeah, like you said

It was a great time, you know like the appa towel move those early appa towel movies the Todd Phillips movies There were a lot of 90s movies like like airheads or something I love it is great, but people don't know about it. Yes. PCU like. Love PCU. Yeah. I mean those Vince Von Favreau, most swingers in May, the huge ones. Sure. I tried to show I used to date a girl younger than me and I tried to show way younger. She was legal and no, like seven years younger, but which is not that much, but then we're watching swingers and she's just like so they just call women skanks? And I was like, it was the 90s. You don't get it, it was a different time.

It was a better time. That's the thing, comedies, like they, just seven years, that's all it takes for it. I showed her Ace Ventura, she's like, so we just acts retarded? That was the joke. My friend told me he showed that to kids recently, and they were like, this isn't funny, this guy's severely disabled. ex-retarded that was that was the joke I've read we didn't say it it's recently and they were like this isn't funny this guy's severely disabled Billy Madison

gets that some yeah so Billy Madison blows me away though because I we watch it I'm like this is just like this is like jazz it's just like just Sandler like riffing well what was like learning people sitting around the monitors watch yes with like no laughter, just being like, fuck, I don't know, maybe. In video village. Maybe this is funny. And he's like, stop looking at me, Swan.

Like, where'd that come from? That could have been written down. Moving on. I watched an interview once with Jim Carrey talking about watching the dailies of Ace Ventura and just hysterically laughing with his producer saying, it's over goodbye Same with I feel like he went even more nuts in nature calls. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's all its equal

So when he came out of that rhino, I mean that's like Mark Twain award level height of comedy Yeah, doesn't get any better than that and their kids now who don't appreciate Jim Carrey now I had a killer run totally There was been a while since he's done a comedy. Yeah. Yeah, that's true Well, they probably don't know but it's also when people say like they don't know you don't watch old movies ever like I watch Movies from the 40s constantly. I know I've heard of the Beatles. You know we do it here We're watching from the 40s. Oh fucking noir dude. He's a noir. Yeah We're watching from the 40s. Oh, fucking noir, dude.

He's a noir head. Are you still on any Orson Welles thing? I love that shit. It's just good writing. I always say this, even if you don't like, noir and comedy are so similar, right? Double Indemnity is fucking hilarious. That's like a perfect script.

That's very tight writing. Exactly. So how do you like writing and not appreciate that era? Because they had to do more with words, so I think it's so cool. Or like the big heat, or like movies that era, I love. There's a great, I think it's the postman always rings twice, I don't know why this sticks with me,

but in that book there's a moment where this guy is about to hook up with a woman and he says like, I had to have her, and then it just goes new line, I had her. Whoa. Yeah. Oh yeah, that was, that's when he's fucking the guy's wife, right? I had to have her and then just goes new line. I had her Oh, yeah, that was uh, that's when he's fucking the guy's wife, right? Yes. Yeah, that's a I mean that's an awesome book Good title same writers double indemnity. Yeah. Yeah. Well yours your post today on Instagram. That's a noir line What I mean pull up Sam's uh, oh, yeah line, but I'm like, this is just a line that could be no

I know what you mean with a girl said I don't even remember my own act I don't remember once you burn an hour You know I don't remember people will like request jokes for you on the road all the time I'm like I don't fuck. That's like three hours ago. I don't fucking know my life Yeah, they'll be like they'll be like oh, I have a bit about like a white night vigilante No, it's on the other one, so we might be drunk. I think I was a drutter but You know there's a vigilante in Cleveland. I tell that drunk. I think oh was it right, but uh but You know there's a vigilante in Cleveland like tell that story. I'm like that was like from four years ago

I know we wrote it and we still don't remember it Pushing out we're pushing it out. She like let me write a new act You know go to the first one the last the literally the top one there you go. Yeah, look at this. This is a noir line That is a good one no our line. Oh, yeah, you gave me a look. Oh, I forgot one audio to your hair attractive She goes you just saying that you're trying to sleep with me. I said and you're smart as well Yeah, that's that's like you know writing carry grant you ever see a Phil Hartman's SNL audition where he does. It's incredible Oh my god, dude. He does he did a detective dude. I love those types of lines though. I never got Phil Hartman To be different

Wow look at the the balls this takes to sit in that and no one laughs during these they just like It was midnight when it happened. I Was parked in front of Four Fingers of Bourbon at the Swanee Club on La Brea Avenue. Most ex-flyboys were making babies and buying refrigerators. But in the aftermath of my POW experience, I rekindled a relationship with two old pals, Jack Daniels and Jim Beam. My life was rapidly going down the porcelain convenience. I could barely afford cigarettes, whiskey, and food.

Looked like the food was gonna have to go. Ha ha ha ha. Had two things in common with the colored patrons of the Swanny Club. We all loved Nat King Cole. And we were all fed up with white people. Ha ha ha ha. Wow, you know he's practicing at his home, you know,

and his wife's like, I like yeah push this guy in a pool Well he was asleep which that's like a way to go or just I don't know wait she shot him while he was sleeping Yeah, I didn't know that I didn't know that either. Oh my god One of our one of our great moments in this podcast's history is Al Franken was on. Oh! It's our worst episode ever. Oh, brutal. And we're talking about Phil Hartman, how great he was,

and Mark just goes, oh my God, his wife's a fucking. And Al was like, well, I think she's very, was mentally off, and Mark, it's like a school shooter, and Mark goes, they're cunts. Yeah, they are. And Al was just like, uh, he just didn't have any. This isn't a courtroom, you can't get out on insanity. Still killed a guy.

That was, I mean, yeah, I wonder, I mean, those kids were orphans after that shit. That's crazy. Ah, shit, I didn't think about that. Oh, I love Mando. Next time you fly, instead of trying to bring a hundred tiny bottle through TSA, simplify your life with Mando's 4-in-1 acidified cleaning bar. Good read.

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That's the thing about 90s movies even the bad ones hold a very special place in all right dirty Accidents happen yeah great. He's a good movie. Yeah, I don't even know what that is. Never heard of Greedy. Oh, Greedy's like Michael J. Fox. I saw that in theaters. Right? Yeah. Michael J. Fox, Phil Hartman.

It's not a good movie. But it's got some moments. It's got its moments. Kirk Douglas. What? Damn. Kirk Douglas had such a run, man. He lived like 102 or something.

Yeah. He looked at it or something. Yeah looked at greedy Yeah, he did look half alive. I mean that's Holy shit, what a damn strong chin. Yeah Well, that was the thing back then there was no internet So you just went to a shitty comedy like this will kill a day That's why they're not watching cuz yeah, tick tock like before although before bed I want to watch a movie like I something about that Still and you don't have any trouble focusing because I find that even me now

I can't put my phone away. I have to be a room to watch a movie hard I set up like a movie room in my new place And I'm like it's like I won't I won't look at my phone because I put up like cool sound and stuff I just what I never seen the movie strangers on a train. I just threw it on the other day. It's fucking great. Yeah, it's incredible But it's just like so many movies out there That's what I don't get when people like so this generation doesn't have the movies to choose from be like you don't go back 20 I don't get it I have like a list of a thousand things that I think every single one of them someone has told me

That's the best movie ever made I know It I have a list too. I just keep writing them down. Yeah, a list that at this point I could never get through for the rest of my life, there's so many movies. What are like your all time, like not just comedies, but like all time movies that you feel like any writer needs to watch? Any writer?

Yeah. Good question. I do think something about Mary is like, it's perfect. Yeah, perfect. That's how we learn to write, just reading something about Mary's script. Wow. Yeah. What about it is like, so, I agree with you.

Just the tightness with which they write, their action lines, there's just no extra fat. It's the same way like Seinfeld and Larry David wrote, like, you know, they really let the story and the characters drive the movie forward The way they set up and call back in comedy. I think is like I mean it's more satisfying Yeah, something like that movie opens with Ben Stiller like telling this like fucked up story from his childhood And then he says like so I pulled over to a highway arrest area. Yes Jenkins is like those are homosexual

That's the joke and you forget about it for an hour and then later he gets arrested in like a sting at a rest area. And that joke on its own is funny. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Woody, setting up Woody in the opening pages and then Chris Elliott's Woody.

You're right, the callbacks. You know what also, we watched it, we did it like, after I did a tour bus tour last year and on the bus we'd watch movies at night and we threw that on and my friend, we didn't have a copy so my camera guy James just downloaded it illegally. So we got the extended cut with all the scenes

they didn't cut and holy shit did they cut the right scenes. Yeah. Like the one, there's an extra scene in it that I remember seeing in the tree in the credits You know when they're all doing build me a buttercup, but it's just Matt Dillon squeezing Cameron Diaz tits and that was a scene in the movie That was a scene where like it's the end of the date and he says like can I feel your tits? Like sure knock yourself out. Yeah, it's a good cut

It's funny to see but you're like, well that does that because we were watching with James who had never seen it We quoted it Gary Veeder and I who toured it, like we quoted it nonstop. How did it play for a first timer? He was blown away, but also those scenes were like, ooh, this is a weird scene. This was cut. And there's scenes in the credits,

I was like, oh, that's weird. You know, it was a great joke that was cut. You know, Matt, Jeffrey Tambor, right? Is that his name? Matt Dillon's friend, he's got the snake there. There's a scene later in the movie when he comes home and the snake has a giant bulge in its belly And he thinks it's the dog goes out poor dog poor dog Yeah, the dog walks out and you realize it's Jeffrey Tambor

Who's been drinking now, right? Yeah, that's almost too cartoony Keep in but Dumb and Dumber we saw the extended cuts too and like everything they cut was hilarious yeah Dumb and Dumber might be the most purely funny movie yeah yeah it's up there and just masters in likeability which is overrated but they do a great like Woody and Kingpin there's a king pickable character but like they do such a good job making you care about that guy

Yes, you got Munson. Yeah, I saw that on a date when I was like 14 and the girl was like trying to hook up And I was like hey. Yeah, this is too good Funny movie you got Munson is so fucking good Bill Murray Randy Quaid yeah the hot chick from Weird Science who never showed up again. We had Harlan Williams in here. He's saying he was up for the Bill Murray part and Andy was up for the Jeff Daniels part. That's right. No offense to Harlan Williams, but I think you made the right decision. Oh, for sure.

I think he also steals the scenes that are in both of those movies. Harlan is like so good in comedies too though. So good. The weird choice he makes in Dumb and Dumber with like the, yes, yes. Or in the, something about Mary when they're like, he's like, seven monkeys hanging on a branch, all that shit, where'd that come from?

Which is when he's like, what if someone comes up with six minute ad, or he's just like. Yeah, he can't take it, he's disgusted, it's so just like yeah by the way you said where did that come from we spent like an hour and a half with him he's fucking insane he's I mean we're gonna come that's just who he is yeah like he's awesome but it takes that direction that director to be able to like go this is great play keep going get weird I get bummed when I heard Todd Phillips said he'll never make a comedy again I don't think that's true I think he's I think

you'll come back around really yeah Yes, too. I've always feel like once you go From drama comedy a drama. You don't come back. I don't know I mean Pete Fairley won an Oscar. Yeah, that's true Ricky's to Nicky yeah, that's good point. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna relapse Yeah, I'm telling you Todd's coming back willing. I hope he's fucking perfect I mean, but even when I would see the hangover, when they first pull into Vegas, you're just like, this guy directed the shit out of the scene.

Unreal, three bangers out of the old school road trip hangover, unbelievable. Road trip doesn't get the credit it deserves. It's a great movie. That's my favorite. We rewatched that on the road as a group and we were like, Gary and I were like, it's one of those where we turn it on

and we're like, I hope this holds up. Because you don't want your youth to be a lie. I haven't seen it in a decade, but it holds up, right? It was great. It was better than I remembered. What goes on the bus that you guys are like, oh, this does not hold up? Or it does not get the good reaction you were hoping for?

Good question. This is a tough one to say, but I'd never seen it. James really, really vouched for semi-pro I love Will Ferrell and I was like alright I'm I love basketball I love Will Ferrell let's watch it it was probably one of my least favorite Will Ferrell movies there's a reason it's not held to the yeah in the same esteem as the others and it's not a knock I mean I love a lot of the people involved in it too it's just like it's fucking hard I think.

It's hard to make a killer combo. It's really hard. I love Talladega, I love. Yeah, well they had a lot of cookie cutter, Will Ferrell sports. Yeah. You know like Blades of Glory, Talladega, then Semmy Rose too much.

Yeah, it was kicking and screaming. Yes. Yeah, they overdid it. I remember being Luke Warm on Talladega and I watched it recently and it was so fucking fun. It's so good. Yeah, I don't know, I think he was so hot that we took him for granted.

The other guys on TV all the time and I'm like, this is fucking great. Yeah, too hot. Some people said about me in college. Granted, couldn't get laid, but yeah. Yeah, Will Ferrell's on the Mount Rush of comedy movies. Yeah, what do you guys wanna do next? Like do you already know what you're doing?

Drama, drama. No, don't go green book on us. Come on, he did win an Oscar, but yeah. Yeah, 12 Years a Slave is amazing, I will say. That's fantastic. Oh my God, though, I said that, I went to the Comedy Show one night, and I had just seen it, and I was like,

wow, 12 Years a Slave was great, and Keith Robinson, older black guy at the cross table, goes shut the fuck up. You don't wanna be gushing about 12 Years a Slave to an elder black man. I remember that year when people would be like, what's your favorite movie of the year? And you'd be like, 12 Years a Slave.

It's awesome. They're like, well, don't say it like that. Yeah. I saw it in St. Louis in one of those like reclining fancy theaters. Oh, right. And I was like this is you feel extra guilty But terrible, I mean he's a he's an incredible actor to that guy that movie was brutal amazing She would tell also she she was discovered in that movie that Sarah. Yeah, no the young

Oh, she's great. She's in the new the pizza. Oh my god Oh, he's incredible. I love that they were like bragging like she got this only they only paid her 13 grand for that movie I'm like in a movie about slavery I heard they're making a sequel with a Robert Downey Jr. Slave I like I like that Tropic Thunder good Tropic Thunder looks better and better with every passing. I know it's it's one of the last great comedies I think I saw the theater over 10 years now. I bet so good. I would say yeah also also Brad Pitt cast himself It's like the way is the way David I'll be the white guy who does the right thing here. Oh, this is great. I just saw just no. Oh, you know go ahead, so

I just saw do I just know you know go ahead, so No shit, that's not it. I just saw the new quiet place with I heard it's amazed with Lupita It's fucking good. That's what my girlfriend said it's surprising my friend. Who's like a real movie snob Ron on Hirschberg He's like he's like my he hates everything sounds like a movie. He's annoying He only likes movies if it's like if it's like you know that friend Who's like it's got to be just like a brutal watch Yeah, and he's like no quite, and I was like shocked. It's fucking good And my buddy our buddy Alex wolf who listens to the pod is grading it. He's awesome. Oh nice We got we gotta give me the kit from pig. Yes

Yeah, he's awesome. Oh, he's awesome dude that I love them He's awesome not to get weird's awesome, dude. I love them. He's been on a plane. Yeah, yeah. He's awesome. Not to get weird, but do you guys have any writing moves? Like, do you light a candle? Do you turn the jazz on? Do you have a way you write? We light something.

Oh, all right. Do you smoke when you're writing? Yeah. Yeah. There you go. I think it's a useful tool, like at the end of a long day and you're like, look, let's spark this and we'll get out of here in an hour.

Yeah. And it just unlocks a little part of the brain that you can have the rest of the day. Can't drink and ride. No. Which is a shame. I feel, I actually feel very fortunate. Yeah, it's probably for the best.

Yes. I know people who can and you're jealous cause it seems romantic. Yes, it's heavy weight. You can drink and write. Eh, I wouldn't choose to. Yeah, stand up, I could drink and write. If I was working on a script, I couldn't.

You can go out at night drinking with your mind kind of set on like, let's come up with some bits and areas. Yeah. But like, you're not writing a script. I feel like we often will like go take a trip somewhere when we have like an idea and we're just feel like we often will go take a trip somewhere when we have an idea. And we went to Kansas City recently,

where we're just like, let's do four nights there, and we'll just bang around all day having beers, and we'll talk about things. And that I find is helpful. Yeah, that's interesting. Wow. Tricks, we do it no, do we listen to music? Sometimes.

Not when we're writing, but if we're just kidding. We approach every script as if we've never done it before. So there's usually a day or two of like, how the fuck do you write a script? And then it kinda... It's probably like writing a new hour for us, where you're like, you feel like you're fucking just weak. Yeah.

Do you guys write shit though? Like do you actually? Yeah, I do, yeah. Yeah, you have to. I write notes and stuff. Yeah, it's starting at zero with an hour. Looking at an empty notebook, the most daunting thing.

The worst, the worst. Working on Sunny was helpful because they'll send you off with an idea on Monday and be like, if you can get it to us by Friday, that'd be great. Oh, that's huge. And it's insane, but you realize you can do it. Sometimes you hate it, sometimes you love it,

but either way the audience is just like, yeah, that works. Like no matter how good or bad it is, it's always fine. Yeah, yeah. When we did the Mick, we, every time they picked up like a back order of episodes, Dave and I would be like, well, there's no way to make 20 of these good. Like three of these have to suck. And we'd like be like, all right, it can't be the last one all right 16 17 18 those will suck

We won't put in any effort who cares and then those would come out and people would be like my favorite episode Yeah, how many make you crazy? Nick was two seasons how many we didn't sue so we did like 40 episodes Yeah, I don't think people really do that anymore Hmm new girl on away I think for the best new girl was on when we were there and they had done a couple seasons of like 24 26 Which is unholy yeah, that's a lot, but we would beg them like please no more And they'd say like I've never we've never had anyone in here begging us for less money

I'm like if we hand in three bad ones in a row you're gonna cancel it and then there will be no money exactly Well Larry David will always have famously say like, please get canceled. I can't, I can't, I gotta write 20 of these? There's no way! And I totally relate to that. How he did that, because his name is on every one of those too. So he did all the writing. We relied heavily on a writer's room. Yeah. Oh that's huge. How many did you guys say you're like, it's just gonna be us two writing? At the end of the day it's us two on all of them. Wow.

We're gonna rewrite, but the machine of breaking stories is so important. And we had unbelievably talented writers, but what you realize is it has to be in our voice or we're gonna be weird about it. We'll be assholes about it. We won't see it, and it's not because it's not good, it's just because we have to see it.

I think the Sonny guys were good about that too. They just would explain to you, just give us a good script that makes sense. We can make it funny. And I think we feel the same way. It's like, if you give us something that works and all the stories track, and you understand people's motivations,

it's the easiest thing to sit there and be like, let's make this 10% funnier. Yeah, have you ever gotten a script all the way done, you're pretty happy with it, and then as they're shooting, you're like, damn, this is not good. Yes. That's terrifying.

It's horrible. Sure, you know, I mean, you go into a table read with cocktail napkins, and you're like, we gotta read this out loud. Oh, that's brutal. It's the worst. Are you just feeding lines or you just till the last minute like what if you change it to this? And at that point there was a lot of adderall involved like you have just like a kind of assembly line. So far your tips are just drugs. It's like an assembly line of five people just passing like two pages at a time forward and then you end with a decently funny script.

But we've also had the late nights where we've looked each other in the eye and realized we've totally fucked it up and then you just hysterically laugh for 40 minutes. Right. It's like goodbye. Goodbye Hollywood. You've seen that South Park doc where they have 12 hours to come up with some genius episode, and they just have to do it.

It's insane. It's nice to have a deadline, I think. Oh, yeah. That's the cool thing about TV is you get to a certain point where it's just like, it's 3 in the morning, and you're like, look, man, I don't know if it's good or not, but it shoots in four hours. Exactly.

So this is what it is. Yeah, and with stand-up, I know I've had this where I'm like, this is gold, holy shit, and then like this is what it is. Yeah and with stand up I know I've had this where I'm like this is gold, holy shit and then you do it at bombs and then some after thought brain queef kills and you're like wow this is a hard art form. Cause you work so hard on just being,

I'm such a big basketball fan, Ball Frazier from the Knicks is always like he's aiming his shot you know when a player is shooting badly and it's like he's thinking about it. Yeah. Unless you just gotta trust your fucking mechanics., like Mark will keep we do it for each other We've been writing together for so long where we just bounce bits off each other and I'll be like that's fucking amazing That's so good. And then you'll be like it bombed. Yes, but then but this works for both of us I'll feel like you know, sometimes you'll say the same to me and it bombs but Mark liked it. So I'll keep pushing

Yeah, like if your friend is like no don't give up on that. Yeah, you stick with we have that. Yeah you'll say the same to me and it bombs but Mark liked it so I'll keep pushing. There's something there. Like if your friend is like no don't give up on that you stick with. We have that. Yeah. Oh great. Like you guys at least don't have to go through like a network executive class to get to the audience. That's a nightmare.

Which is hard. That's the death of art. Yeah. What kind of notes you get in? All sorts of notes and I, I don't know. I think it's tricky because like you try to remind yourself like everyone wants it to succeed. Everyone wants it to get better,

but sometimes you're just like, who cares? Yeah. And you know, no one's gonna, if something falls flat, no one's gonna put their hand up and be like, hey, that was my bad idea. Like it's gonna fall on you ultimately. Nor would like, it would always frustrate us, like, people would push back on things,

and then we would hold our ground, it would go on TV and it would kill, and no one comes up to you to be like, hey, I was wrong, sorry. Yes, that's all I need. I don't even think they remember most of the time. No, they just go to their next meeting. Like, they just have to say something in that meeting,

or else. But you guys are the ones working on your fucking chops, and you guys are the ones getting good at writing and then you have a network person being like, I don't think this is funny. It's like, well you don't know funny. Totally, it's one thing when you're doing a movie, when you're doing a TV show and you got 15 other

professional comedy writers and you can say like, well all the professionals agree that this is funny. So who are you guys? On the movie everyone thinks you're just being like precious with it because it's yours. Do you remember a joke you fought for that like got through and that was like, that killed? Yeah, good question.

I remember we did a scene in the in the MICK where a man beats the shit out of like 15 teenage girls and they were not on board with that. And like think I think credit to them at the end of it They were like that was a hilarious scene. That was hell. Yeah. Okay. Hell. Yeah, and that should build you some credit Like next time you come push back. It doesn't every week you start from scratch I think though you can get really helpful notes from like 30,000 feet where someone will come in and be like, I don't feel like this is hitting

the way you guys want it to, or I think you've like lost track of the story here. And that's so beneficial. That's fine, that's great. People are like, this isn't funny. You're just like, what the fuck did you do? It's when they get too specific. Yeah, give us like a push it in this direction.

I don't get it as better than this. If you say I don't get it. I love I don't get it. Cause they're like, oh, I gotta make it clear. But if they're just like, this isn't funny, that's not constructive. Yeah. You get that sometimes from someone like,

have you ever made your friends laugh at a bar? Exactly, who the hell are you? You're in a suit. Yeah. You're just trying to keep your job. It's almost fun in network TV because there are just certain things they can't let you do.

So that was always fun having those conversations. We had like a seven year old eat the ashes of a dead man once and I remember they're like guys It's just like how far is too far. Yeah, you eat ash just doesn't I did a Fallon and the set has to get approved 800 times standards of practice. Oh, that's an exhausting one exhausting it's the squeakiest of the squeaky clean Yeah, and I had the word, and that was the punchline, piss, and they're like piss is out. You can't say piss.

And I fought tooth and nail, and I got it on, and it got an applause break, and the roots laughed. And I wanted to go, hey Jimmy, huh? How about piss? You know, but. Well it's not Jimmy, it's fuckin' Yeah, it's true. Some standards and practices people, yeah.

Yeah. Line by line. Jimmy's a fuckin' asshole, dude. You're think? It's not Jimmy, it's fuckin' Yeah, it's true. Some standards and practices people, yeah. Yeah. Line by line. Jimmy's a fuckin' ass, dude. You're right, it wasn't Jimmy. But you were open for like Seinfeld, right? Yeah, a couple times. Does he want you to be clean? He's so nice that he goes, just don't be raunchy.

Yeah. So you can probably be like, I was getting laid or I stepped in shit, you know, but you can't be like, I jizzed in my daughter's ass or something. Yeah, that's one of your best bits though. That's the problem. Yeah, I stole that from Newhart. I don't think I've ever opened for someone

who asked me to be clean. Oh really? I don't think so. Well I opened for Galifianakis like 100 years ago, and I was so nervous and he goes, the manager was like, his manager asked me to be clean, and I was like, oh that's surprising manager was like his manager asked me to be clean and I was like Oh, that's surprising galphinex is pretty blue, but it's just so you don't go up and just say the n-word

That's what it's really fair request No, we had those guys open on the road with they're just so filthy that you're like don't go there if you don't have something Yeah, even I'm like come on like Earn it sure right that was one of the best parts about I'm like come on like we'll make a earn it sure right that was one of the best parts about Network TV is like knowing that there were certain things you couldn't do and and pushing the line Yeah, as on cable there is no line really you know true feel like the pressure to be raunchy Which is the worst now let me ask you this is it I've never I've only done writers room for award shows and roasts so I've never done a sitcom thing, so this is a

There is a writers room is a writer's room with a group of writers. Someone in that room is the worst writer. And we all know who it is. Right now you're picturing that guy or gal. The sad thing is I'm just thinking of myself. Oh. Same.

Well that's a good thing. By the way, in that sunny room in the early days, it was 100% us. Yeah. Oh really? That was a heavy hitter room and like we days, it was 100% us. Yeah. Oh, really? That was a heavy hitter room and we were just learning how to do it, but we were definitely the lowest man on the totem pole and the least funny, for sure. You think?

Yep. I think we're definitely the least funny. I think we were better in script, but the writer's room is a different muscle. So we were shy. They're just certain skill set that's not necessary it's totally separate and script in the okay guys who are throwing up jokes like it's a slam dunk oh really yeah like one after the other you're just like that's that one autistic guy in there who's like

Joe Joe yeah Jesus right then that guy goes out like driving home like gosh yeah what are like award show writers rooms like it's just joke joke Joe like The guy goes out to the booth. The guy stands like driving home like, gosh, should have said that. Yeah, the jerk store. Yeah. What are like award show writers' rooms like? It's just joke, joke, joke. Like, oh, who's got something on the guy in the Olympics with the big dick? You know, let me hear that. And then you go, let's get that from a B to an A,

or whatever. But there's no storyline. You don't have to worry about the arc or the ending or anything. It's just, what do you got on the Zembik? You got anything on the Zembik? You know, it's almost like, it feels like a newspaper room. Where it's like,

Yeah, we wouldn't be good at that. Oh really? We're not big joke guys. We're big, like give us a strong comedic point of view and let's take it very seriously. But we're not great at like the one-liner stuff. Gotcha. I feel like your episodes are so joke heavy though.

I'm looking at like the ones you've written. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I swear, you work with those guys and they're all like classically trained actors so they're very much about like, would my character actually say this? And even in the bizarre world of Sunny, like that really does apply to those scripts. For sure. And that's why like those characters, I think you stick with them. I think so.

It's like, there's arcs that are kind of like weirdly sad in that show Yeah, I think of the Christmas episode of sunny with a throwing rocks at the end. I'm like this is kind of touch. Yeah It's like there's like kind of beautiful moments of it, but they earn it They don't they don't get sappy like I feel like we're in like this sappy era of comedy where they're like they want you to like Cry, it's more like dramedy. The effect of the bear is considered a comedy oh is it really oh yeah he's nominated with Larry fucking David the if the award suggesting it is the best comedy like it's right every year yeah really yeah oh it just shows you they're not I was trying I was trying to find a comedy to watch before

bed like a new comedy it's hard to find're not I was trying I was trying to find a comedy to watch before bed like a new comedy It's hard to find yeah, I end up watching the p rose. Doc which was great, but hulu is our new one yeah This this show such brave girls. That's a wreck is so funny. Oh really okay. It reminds me of like the early sunny years It's just these two British girls. I think they're sisters in real life Yeah, one of them wrote it they seem to just be making a show that just for them yeah it's incredibly funny such brave girls you ever see fleabag yeah yeah that was a great yeah you know British show I'm obsessed with you ever watch peep show oh yeah that's like you got me on that that's one of my favorite shows of all time I just met a guy from

peep show the other day Tim I can't remember his last name, but I geeked out on him. Tim what? He was one of the actors on it? Yeah. Who'd he play? Man, I haven't seen that in so long. He's kinda like, I don't wanna sell him down the river,

he's just a little pudgy guy. That guy, it's all right. Neither of the main. Those are the main guys. I love those dudes so much, and I see them in interviews and it makes me only like them. They're remaking them. What? With them or new people? I think the creators are involved I won't say, but it's an American version of it.

Are we that out of shit? We are dude. But I mean, they're so, they don't want anything that hasn't been a proven success before. Yeah, IP, well, I mean, I am shit talking, but Norman Lear stole all in the family. That was a British show. Really? And he just took that, yeah. Smart steal. I know.

So he just knew what was good. He's like, that would work here. Oh, you wait till the year he dies to break this story. Well, I had to wait. Yeah. Come at me, Lear. Yeah. I know, Mel Brooks is knocking on death's door. I'm like man. We're losing all we had Carl Reiner's I was gonna sting that one's gonna hurt and you're still dancing and lucid. It's crazy. I mean Carl Reiner

Yeah, and like Carl Reiner so great. You know they got lunch every day. I Thought it was they watch movies. Yeah But it could be movies. I heard it was they watched movies. Yeah, I think they had a movie date. I thought it was just lunch, but it could be movies. I heard it was breakfast. Hahaha I did find that clip I was searching for earlier if you guys remember. Oh, it better be worth it. Energy. So I know how to make a mean product race. In fact, people used to ask me to make a race for those in Christmas.

One year, I had so many that I had to wash, and we ended up washing them in the bathtub. So I am not playing around. You're back before the world broke down. I was a sociate standing in tone. I bet I could call up some of them green. The internet is undefeated. That is the internet delivery sometimes. God damn. Poisoning your soul.

What was like that? Do you know the Kamala Trump thing about like do not come? Yeah, that was amazing. That pops up and I'm just like God bless you. I say that all the time. Yeah. And even the word come which is all the time enters a sentence. I say do not come. I'm gonna come the way he says it is perfect. Yeah. Well from what I can gather from you guys seems the key to being a good writer is sunglasses on the shirt And weed and Adderall how long you've been riding together has it always been together Yeah, pretty much Getting to be 20 years. Yeah coming up on that. I think it's pretty cool. Yeah, any fights Oh never fist fights we used to fist fight a lot when we were younger

But now we just just fist throw emotion Yeah fighting yeah, yeah, it's worse now honestly a fist fight you get petted and now we throw like emotional No, but we found our rhythm, I think. It gets better as we get older, for sure. Yeah, and you can hold each other to a deadline and all that. Totally. As a comic, you're alone. And he can pick up the slack when I have a night or vice versa.

I don't know how anyone does it alone. It's insane to me. Nor do I know how any partnership who isn't related to one another makes it last. Yeah. Right. It's so weird how many brothers there are. It's like the Cohen, you guys, Fairly, then the Wachowski.

Yeah. Sisters. Yeah. I don't think we should be lumped in with that crew. You guys have got juice. I remember when we almost worked on something a while back and uh, the guy I was in was like, dude the churnins, they're the food, where the fuck it's at? And I was like, I was like, well I love their shit so- That guy was fired for being a fuck-

I fired him, I'll be fucking- I remember that, that was a few years ago, it was really funny, it was a good show idea. Yeah. Yeah. You should make it. Was that the superhero one? No, it's the same one I'm working on now. I'm still working on it. I feel like that was also a time

when it was hard to get that made. Yeah. Where today I think you'd have an easier show. We're working on it. It's not dead yet, so. Well, it's funny, we keep going into rooms and people are like, we're just looking for the next Sonny and then we'll pitch them something.

And they're like, well, not that. Yeah. Yeah, what is it? I feel like everyone you pitch, they're like, what do they watch before bed? Sonny, South Park, Office, 30 Rock, and then you pitch them anything resembling that, and they're like, no, what the fuck?

Right, yeah. Because those shows aren't really about anything. They're hard to pitch, because it's, you can't really pitch tone. Good point. if you tried to Describe Seinfeld you just couldn't do it because it's yeah the tone of their comedy No, even friends. It's just like a bunch of hot people living together you want it Yeah, that's true the pitch you got to have some it's this meets this

But it's just hey, how about a bunch of people you like telling jokes? Yeah. We've also like, just having to pitch over to Zoom lately. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I don't know. It's easier. And writers rooms are all on Zoom for the past. We've never been in a Zoom writers room.

Yeah. I don't like that. No. Yeah, we actively were just like, we're not... We'll write a movie before we get in a Zoom writers's room. I don't like that. Yeah, we actively were just like, we'll write a movie before we get in a Zoom writer's room. It's phone sex. You gotta be in the room. It's not the same.

Most people are actually pleasuring themselves. Yeah. A little tubing. Tubing, yeah, that was fun. Tubing. Is he back or is he not back? I think he's back. Did you see his first day back?

They made him on air like walk through like so tell Us what happened Really gonna do this guy That'd be funny. He's like well. I'll tell you all So what were you thinking he's like I'm a fucking idiot Women can get away with it because there's less movement if a lady's diddling while on zoom it's now But the guy has to show us for it yeah he's talking about great writers he is a great writer he's brilliant yeah Wow and at least he thought he was on a

break you know it wasn't that you're wearing a call yeah they were like let's take five and he tried to squeeze like I only need three I mean for a guy you just go there well I'm talking my mom on the. I got plenty of time. For a guy, you just go there. I'm talking to my mom on the phone, I got balls dangling. It's nothing sexual. Just prime in the engine. Yeah, they're there. Sorry, you gonna say something?

No, no, no. It's just technology. It's like Anthony Weiner. He doesn't know how to use technology. I mean, he's got other problems, I guess. thought that names like tubing and wiener. It's like yeah Yeah, good point to self-fulfilling prophecy, right? You gotta meet my my cousin Jeff cocksucker You guys got to be pumped about this. I think this could be this could be big

I honestly like you generally have some idea of how it's gonna be received. I have no idea what it is. Really? But it is funny. It's an R-rated comedy, the kind they don't make anymore. August 23rd, gone by the 25th. No, no.

I think kids being dirty and horny is funny. There's something funny about kids. Of course. It is. Relatable. It's just funnier coming out of an innocent mouth definitely I mean I saw American Pie in the theater in a black neighborhood The laughs it was killing it was not a quiet place

I've said it before but they would have been dead It's not a quiet place. But, I've said it before, but what if? They would have been dead. Yeah, exactly. When the pie came out and it was all mangled and beaten up, some black kid went, he tore that shit up and the popcorn went in the air. I mean, it was amazing.

Now we need that again. I think I saw American Pie with my parents for the first time. We did. Yeah, that was rough. Tough day. Ooh, what were you thinking? Tell us tough day. Oh, are you thinking? It's also young yeah, wasn't thinking just wanted to go see an R-rated movie I saw species with my friend and his mom she sat between us whoa I mean she could have gone skiing with the boners. Yeah, it was crazy. I thought he got game with my mom that was

Tough scene, but also the fuck is just the amount of tits. She's just covered my face. I'm like oh I'm gonna rent it. You could have rented armor watching under siege on Laserdisc with my dad Oh, he's I did to get a Laserdisc player and first first showing was under siege Erica Linniac the cake Yeah, yeah, I know well Erica a lineac the cake yeah, yeah, I know well End up watching challengers on the plane and I did and I liked it. Yeah, see that movie. No. I think he saw it Yeah, I thought it was fun. Yeah, yeah, you don't like it. I love it, but I liked it I was into it the whole time. I like the ending yeah, I was like I'm leaping through the air. Yeah Spoilers yeah, yeah, also not as hot as I was led to.

Oh really? Yeah, just a little gay. But more gay than hot. MMF, right? It was fun. I mean, I was hanging on it. I was into it. It wasn't like perfect, but I was into it.

I thought everyone in it was great. Oh my God, the acting's insane in it. And I thought the score was awesome. Fucking Trent Reznor, man. Oh wow. Yeah, I mean, look, I was on a flight. I had a couple in me. Yeah, and I thought the score was awesome fucking Trent Reznor, man. Yeah Yeah, I mean look I was on a flight. I was playing movie. You're in a buying mood Did you cry like if I watch a movie? No, no, no, yeah No, I was Annie Collins that one got me Who is it? Pacino, Bobby Cannavale, Tom Jonesy, kind of.

I've never heard of this. It's like, Dan Fogelman. Yeah, Bobby Cannavale, who's in our movie. This is good, this is one of these plain movies I skip immediately. This is phenomenal. Really? Okay. Yeah, how was Bobby Cannavale?

Awesome. I actually remember he showed up and John was like, Dave's favorite movie is Danny Collins and he like thought it was an insult, but I really love that movie He was awesome all right. Yeah, it's the least lucrative job. He's ever For I think he got a lady pregnant ten minutes ago Pacino Somebody got a lady pregnant. Yeah, she knows got a young Mother our buddy Simon Rex was just is in a new movie with him, and he's been like hanging out with I read Really yeah the

Yeah, that's oh wow that's a phenomenal screw. Yeah. Well. He's uh he's our buddy and uh Simon He'll be back on in a couple weeks. Yeah He always got great stories, and he was telling us just going out. He was just like going out with Pacino Yeah, it's insane. I think that guy lives in my neighborhood. I used to always see him in the grocery store The gluten in this or no, why are you impregnating someone in your 80s? Slip by she probably wanted it. You know, it wanted it. It's a good life for the kid. Get the Pachino estate. So wait, before we go,

I gotta ask, we got two professional, established writers here. Give it to us straight on the notes. What sucked about the script? I can take it. I really like the script. I swear to God I got nothing. Give me only negative. If we were in the room. God, I wish I had take it. I really like the script. I said I got nothing Yeah, if we were in the room god

I wish I had read it more recently because I would have hammered you But I really just remember it being like wow that is a funny comedy script Which is not something we see that has five years Stupid didn't care and I say I we can take it. I don't even remember the ending I I remember the we Should we cut the part with Mark at the end? Double hookup sex scene, that made me laugh. Oh yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, you got a good sex scene in there.

Okay, but... If you want... You got some ideas. No, I think if you want, we can read it again and hammer you. I want to get hammered. Yeah, I feel like I read it over a month ago, and I've read many scripts since then But I just remember really liking it. Yeah, yeah, all right you guys definitely have one of the funnier scripts going around

Come on. It'll never give me Well these guys got to get out here you got any got a flight right we got a flight We appreciate you coming in. Thanks. This is awesome. John's going to go viral on the flight now. Hell yeah. Are you guys going to get lit up on this flight or no? I think we have to now. Yeah.

We can't stop. Which going home, that's how you do it. Plain wine, the best. And you'll gain three hours, which is always fun. That's true. We're in time travel. Hell yeah. All right.

Thanks for having us guys. It was fun. Thank you so much for coming. Check out the new movie on Netflix. Yes, August 23rd you nailed it in yeah incoming. I can't wait to see it. I'm excited for this congratulations kids and Sam Do you want to do your dates? No, we'll do we'll do this stuff later. Okay cool. Hey Okay, August 16 Anaheim, California that one's almost sold out Thousand O Oaks, a couple tickets left out in California. Redding, PA. Red Bank, New Jersey. Guadalajara! And then New Mexico, Mexico City. Sorry, not New Mexico. I'm drunk. Colorado Springs, Fort Collins, Colorado.

St. Louis, Atlanta, Vancouver, Orlando, Florida, Fort Lauderdale, Portland, Oregon, London, Ontario, Toronto, we added a show, Newport, Rhode Island, Monterey, California, Oakland, California, Winnipeg, to name a few, marknormancomedy.com, we're going to Punch Up Live! What do you got? Follow us both on punchup.live slash mark norman, punchup.live slash samorail. I'll be in, when does this come out? The 18th. The 18th, so I'll be in New Brunswick, New Jersey,

the August 22nd through 24th at the Stress Factory. I'll be in Niagara Falls, Ontario, that's with Chrissy DeStefano and Nimesh Patel, and I believe Rachel Feinstein opening, very famous show. Whoa, fun. And that's September, I believe, what, 11th? September 13th in Niagara Falls.

September 13th, all right, I'm fucking dumb, sorry. Now what else do we have? London, September 18th. Belfast, Dublin, Paris, Amsterdam, added a show there. Wow. Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm. And then after that, we got, I'll be back, we added Cleveland in November,

adding some workout shows, gonna keep building, I'm gonna keep adding dates here and there through the end of the year, and then big theater tour next year, folks. So stay tuned, but we love you, thanks for listening. Super fun app, those guys are fucking awesome. Great guys, check out their work, the Churnin' Bros. They're awesome, and I mean, if you watch Sonny,

you know him, but got a big movie coming out on Netflix. I'm pumped to see it, so we'll see you guys very soon. Yeah And Norman's talking shit about the fucking Pope And I get down in the same way Up on the roof like a cop's coming And naked Samuel is feeling dangerous I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans This woman doesn't look like I remember her And I get down in the same way We might be true