We Might Be Drunk - Ep 212: Ben Schwartz - Sonic The Hedgehog 3

Starting point is 00:00:00 We're here with Ben Schwartz, he's promoting Sonic 3. Whoa! I know. We're gonna open? Mm-hmm. Wow. You want another? We'll do another.

Starting point is 00:00:15 Wait, we should talk, you just got back from roast? Yeah. Yeah, roasting the year. I'm sorry, how does it feel, the roast of the year or the roast of the year? Roasting the year 2024. Okay, how do you guys feel? Definitely not the roast of the year. It was of the year? Roasting the year 2024. Okay, how do you guys feel? Definitely not the roast of the year.

Starting point is 00:00:26 It was one of the worst of all time. I gave him the brief rundown that it was not good. Yeah. I think it'll be edited to be, hopefully. But you guys did well, you hit. We did well. We did well, I ended horribly, I fucked up the ending. But otherwise.

Starting point is 00:00:38 We thought it would be funny if we ended it by like, being like, oh my God, we're gonna get canceled and we pretend it and Mark picks up the phone and then goes, oh shit, Trump just made us Secretary of Agriculture. Oh, that's good, that's funny. It killed, we did it at the club and it killed, and then we did it there and it got,

Starting point is 00:00:53 we didn't have a phone, we forgot to bring a phone up, so the actor Simon Rex is in the front row. So you asked for his phone. So we said, Simon, can we have your phone? He just gave us his phone. Oh, that's cool. And you still have his phone now? Yeah, we took it away. You gave it back?

Starting point is 00:01:05 Very cool. But it didn't work. Are you guys able, if you have a good set, what, how do you, because it seems like you're both very chill. If you have a good set, would you give yourself credit? What was the, would you say we killed? Or would you always say like, yeah, we did well?

Starting point is 00:01:18 We'd go, we got through that. That was good. So you never, you're never like, we crushed? No. Rarely. Because even as a special. Even when you feel like you did, you just can't say it. Why do you think that is? Because there's always something wrong.

Starting point is 00:01:27 You can always find a thing. You always feel like a fraud on some level where like if it's a special, you're like, well now I gotta write a whole new act. It's hard to celebrate the win. So you can't even enjoy it? I can. Wow.

Starting point is 00:01:37 I get that. I'm bad at enjoying things at the moment. I'm always worried about the next thing. Because you got a big movie up, you gotta go on a press tour, right? So you're like, fuck. That sucks. The press tour? Yeah. Yeah great. This is amazing. This is the very last thing

Starting point is 00:01:49 On the entire press tour. Hey! I've been doing press for three months. Yeah, you seem wiped. I'm sick. I don't feel great. International. He went international. Yeah, we went to Brazil and London and LA and New York And this is it. We're ending. This is it. We're ending. I can't wait. This is amazing. All right Well, hey, we're happy to have you. I want this to be seven hours long I want us to really have a marathon we can do that Sonic is kind of it's kind of crazy It took this long to make a Sonic movie. Are you a video game fan? I as a kid growing up I I liked it, but I'm a younger brother so my brother would make me be tails. Yeah I was like this game fucking sucks, I'm not even on the screen.

Starting point is 00:02:25 Right, right, right, every now and then you lift Sonic up. But then he'd leave and I get to play his and I'd be like, oh, this is kinda cool. Oh, that is cool. Sonic, hey, it was legendary that The best. Turned into a little ball or something. The best.

Starting point is 00:02:36 Come on, what are we doing? I was younger brother too, I was Luigi. I shot a CEO. Oh yeah, there you go. Oh no, got it. Yeah, there you go. Is he younger? Is Luigi the young one?

Starting point is 00:02:44 I assume, although he's taller. They're not twin brothers, right? Mario and Luigi? I don't know if they're twin. I thought they were related. They've gotta be brothers. Give it a go. They're definitely, they're Super Mario brothers.

Starting point is 00:02:53 Oh, there you go. How old are you? Mario's supposed to be 43. Okay, what's Luigi's? I was right. God, this is a great question. How old is Luigi? What do you think their last names are?

Starting point is 00:03:03 Mario Mario. And Luigi Mario. Is that right? Luigi's 24. Luigi's 24? Wait last names are? Mario Mario. And Luigi Mario. Is that right? Luigi's 24? Wait, so how old was Mario? Wow, they look like shit. That's a different mother. Yeah, I thought they were like 48.

Starting point is 00:03:14 By the way, 24 and 26 were full mustaches, crazy to me. Well, they're bucking their whops. This is crazy. Huh, no one's the rest of them. I was 24 years old. Great. So their last name is Mario.

Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah. I never knew that. Mario Mario. I don't know if Sonic has a last name. This is really bringing up a lot of stuff. Well, he's an animal. He's a hedgehog. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:35 Was that your game growing up? Loved Sonic, but I love role playing games. I love RPGs. Oh. Video games you guys play. Like Metal Gear Solid type stuff? Like Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger and Legend of Zelda. Oh boy.

Starting point is 00:03:48 Like all that stuff I really like a lot. The vagina's drying. Do you hear them? Yeah. What does that sound, give a sound effect. Okay. I've heard it before in high school. That's another thing we cut from the roster.

Starting point is 00:03:57 The vagina's dry and act out. Hey, I was a Warcraft guy. You were? Yeah. So you're a PC man. Yeah, I guess so. Did you put like Diablo and all those things? Nah, I never got into Di guy. You were? Yeah. So you're a PC man? Yeah, I guess so. Did you play Diablo and all those things? Nah, I never got into Diablo.

Starting point is 00:04:07 Warcraft took over. Warcraft took over. You were a big Warcraft man. Yeah, my brother liked it, so I played Tails. Yeah, I played second fiddle to his. He would go pee and go eat and I would get in there. I was just spoiled. Warcraft is so intense to just jump in for two seconds.

Starting point is 00:04:23 I loved it. The orcs killing them. How about Sin City? Not Sin Sim City. Sin City. Sin City's Leisure Suit Larry. Remember Leisure Suit Larry? Oh, do I.

Starting point is 00:04:31 Coonhound, he's me too by now. That guy's finished. He's gotta be done, right? He's gotta be in jail somewhere. Gotta be. That was a weird game, just the horny chubby guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're a kid, you're like, I'm supposed to be.

Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. It was very exciting, I remember as a kid being like, I can't believe they're cursing in a video game or like he's trying to like flirt with women That's a wet dreams dry twice Titles is an absolute genius. Wow, they're crazy now because not only do you get to play as the players you get to be a GM You guys right that is like as I'm older. That's all I want to do by the way is like I'm like I want to rebuild the Knicks. I want to make some move all I wanna do, by the way. I'm like, I wanna rebuild the Knicks, I wanna make some moves. As a kid, it was like NBA Jam to like NBA Live. NBA Live was one of my favorite series of games of all time.

Starting point is 00:05:11 I played every year I get a new one. And people that play 2K right now don't quite know that NBA Live was like everything when you were a kid. I don't know that. I was an NBA Jam guy and that's where I capped it. NBA Jam's amazing too. Yeah, razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle, he's heating up.

Starting point is 00:05:26 It's all in the shoes. Boomshakalaka. Yes, Boomshakalaka. It is all in the shoes by the way, did you know that? No, I did not know that. Yeah, it is all in the shoes, 100% in the shoes. Those shoes they wore, like, Walt Frazier would play in Pumas.

Starting point is 00:05:37 Really? How do they last four years? It's crazy, all those old guys were playing like, Converse? Converse All-stars crazy That's the 80s Yeah, remember Jordan first shoe was like the most uncomfortable like didn't he say like you get blisters Yeah, like the beginning of when they're really starting to figure out how to make basketball sneakers

Starting point is 00:05:54 Those are uncomfortable walking shoes. I know and then you're like what the hell they're dunking with them Well, it's great back in the 40s guys worked in a factory and like dress shoes. They served in the war Well, it's great back in the 40s guys worked in a factory and like dress shoes. They served in the war In dress shoes? Ted Williams was a fighter pilot. There you go Joe DiMaggio lost like three years of his prime and just like be like a guy who would go like hit balls around for the troops Really? He lost three years of his prime. He had to come back and be like, you know, and you're like, you know DiMaggio should have better numbers. It's like he was he lost three years. That's incredible. I didn't know that Isn't that crazy? I like that, Mel Brooks.

Starting point is 00:06:26 That's amazing. He served, people served. You were supposed to, you gotta, that was like back in the day when you got a bad look if you didn't serve, you know. Ali, Elvis. Ali was gone for a bit. Yeah, those are right now,

Starting point is 00:06:35 those would be considered street wear sneakers. Like you would skate in those. I wouldn't wear those because they're uncomfortable now. I know, you gotta put a Dr. Scholls in there just to walk. Even look at the Adidas next to him, whoever's guarding him in the bulls or whatever. whatever those are the same those are almost these exactly yeah You like barely walk around with them now. They're wearing like pink neon green shoes. It's a it's all different ball game The flying coach they weren't doing charter. They were sharing hotel rooms Wow

Starting point is 00:07:00 It's like the WNBA now. I know they got their first year of charter because of Caitlin Clark. Oh yeah, congrats. All right, Clark Barr, good for her. Clark Barr. Finally, a little respect. You're famous for making up nicknames for WNBA players, right? That's my thing.

Starting point is 00:07:15 You have another one, so Clark Barr, who else do you have from WNBA? Reese's Pieces, Angel Reese's. Yeah, Angel Reese's Pieces. Did you guys do this on the roast or no? I cut a WNBA joke from the roast because they said that they own the material. I'm putting that in a special.

Starting point is 00:07:29 Oh yeah, you have to be careful with what, I used to have freelance jokes for Letterman and SNL, we can update. And if they use it, I'm no longer allowed to say it. They own it and they're allowed to keep it for three months and if they don't use it, then I get to back. But I would always have to be careful not use anything that I would want wanna use in a movie or whatever.

Starting point is 00:07:46 So I wonder if that's the same for you guys. If it's not your special, do you wanna use it and waste it on a roast? Is that something? I wasted two bits on this because I just wanna make sure that our set was good. So I was like, it's a P Diddy joke. I'm like, how long am I gonna tell this?

Starting point is 00:07:58 Right. And then an Epstein joke that I'm like, I never tell this. I'm seeing a theme with your stand. I know. Jesus Christ. Get fucking. Jesus Christ. Well, you was like, I never tell this. There you go. I'm seeing a theme with your stand. I know. Jesus Christ. Kid fucking.

Starting point is 00:08:06 Jesus Christ. Well, you know. Take it down a notch. By the way, you're in a movie I enjoyed called Standing Up, Falling Down. Did you see that movie? Shout out Pete Horry for writing that. That was a good.

Starting point is 00:08:17 Pete is the best, Pete Horry's the best. Yeah, it's a good movie, man. Oh thanks, man, I got to work with Billy Crystal. Yeah. That's awesome. Stand up legend. Wow. He was incredible, and we filmed it That's awesome. Stand-up legend. Wow. He was incredible, and we filmed it in Long Island right where he grew up.

Starting point is 00:08:27 Wow. We were governors, weren't you? Yeah, we were. Whoa. We did everything. We did everything. It was awesome. That movie cost one million dollars to make,

Starting point is 00:08:36 so we were like change in the car, change in the restaurant we were gonna film in. It was crazy. I can't believe you said yesterday, it was amazing. Yeah, it was a good movie, and it was like, you know. I was a standup in that. It had some darkness to it. Well, making a standup movie is always challenging

Starting point is 00:08:50 because punchline, they're all kind of considered a joke. Yes, and my character is supposed to be bad at the beginning and then better, and so we used tweets of mine at the beginning that were cheesy and then slowly started to write better. Yeah, like shitty tweets by me and then Neil Brennan's tweets at the end. Right, better. Yeah, yeah. Like shitty tweets by me and then Neil Brennan tweets by the end. But that was fun.

Starting point is 00:09:08 It was also funny to go do stand-up but like do it over and over. It's so different than, I started doing stand-up when I first started comedy. Nice. And it wasn't, I couldn't, I did improv at the same time and I was so drawn to improv

Starting point is 00:09:21 because when you suck, you fail with everybody. And then when you succeed, you succeed with everybody. And at the beginning, you guys know way more about this than me, but it's like, I feel like it's so lonely at the beginning of standup, because you don't really know anybody. Everybody has five minutes, you have to bring people to your shows.

Starting point is 00:09:36 It's like, so you have to love it. You would have to love it to keep going. And I loved improv and sketch. And I like stand up, I was like, I'm not good enough to get on stage. I got to the point where they said, you don't have to bring people. I was like, oh, this is exciting.

Starting point is 00:09:49 And I just bombed. In front of friends? In front of no friends. The one with like, you don't have to bring people anymore. Just come and do a set. And I really bombed. It makes no sense that you have to bring people at the beginning.

Starting point is 00:10:01 Cause I'm bad. I know. It's like your first show. But that's how they make money. The only way they make money. Of course, but it makes no sense for us because I'm bad. I know. It's like your first show. But that's how they make money, the only way they make money. Of course, but it makes no sense for us, I'm saying. But you found like improv and sketch, what about that? For improv, your mind works quickly.

Starting point is 00:10:14 I saw like a snippet of you when you were doing it with Middle Ditch. Yeah, Middle Ditch and Schwartz. And I think we both did ClusterFest one year, and I was on one, I saw a bit of you. Oh nice. Yeah, yeah, so I was like, oh man, their minds. That was Ben Schwartz and Friends or Middle Ditch and Schwartz first? I think saw a bit of you. Oh nice. Yeah, yeah. So I was like, oh man, they're mine.

Starting point is 00:10:25 That was Ben Schwartz and Friends or Middle Eastern Schwartz for? I think it was you two together. Oh yeah, yeah, probably. But I was like, man, their minds are working quick. Do you have stuff that you're like, please hit this, please hit this? No, I go on stage with nothing.

Starting point is 00:10:35 Wow. Literally zero. You two are insane. Oh thanks. The connection, you're so in sync. It'd be so funny if you've never seen us. I've seen it, I've seen it. Never seen it, but it's happening. No, Middle Bitch. This is the way I've heard about it. I've seen it, I've seen it. I've never seen it, but it's not.

Starting point is 00:10:45 This is the way I've heard about it. I watched coming up, like he was always great at the UCB theater. Yeah, that's where we started doing stuff at UCB in New York. And then at the same time, you guys know Adam Pally and Gil Lozare? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:55 So me, Pally, and Gil had a three person sketch team called Hot Sauce, and then Montreal Comedy Festival first introduced sketch, and we were able to do like that first batch where like Bob and Dave or Bob Odenkirk and David Cross were hosting it. So it was the biggest thing in the world. Yeah. Because we could not get into Aspen for some reason.

Starting point is 00:11:12 All these festivals, I don't even know if they exist anymore. No, Aspen's gone, Montreal's kind of gone. Montreal, I think this is the first year it's gone. Isn't that crazy? It's wild. It was such an exciting thing. That was the landmark, if you could do that.

Starting point is 00:11:23 It was exciting, but then it slowly, like back in the day, you hear stories from the 90s where a guy's like, I got a $750,000 holding deal. Yeah, dude. I'm like, yeah, I went there and I got like a shitty agent. Oh yeah, I didn't get anything. It's like all you get. I was so excited though.

Starting point is 00:11:36 I remember being so exciting, but you're right, nothing happened after. I got an agent and then the guy, you know when you're signed with an agency, like the big guy comes in to like close it. Yeah. They're like, this is like the big dog at our agency, and I was like oh shit And then I was like so that guy's my agent. They're like yeah And then I was like whatever happened to Fred. They're like oh he left. He just went to another agency

Starting point is 00:11:55 Within signing me like two weeks later. He went to like you I'm gone. I was like that was the he was like the guy that's so I was that stupid We have a friend who I'm not gonna say his name But he did Montreal had a bad set and lost his manager. No he went to Montreal lost Industry why lost representation Jesus that's crap never heard of that before yeah, he must have been really bad He's good. He just had it was like one of those Industry nights where they're all in their blackberries no one's listening And he just tanked and they're all there to see one hot guy

Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah, that guy skyrocketed Matt Reif and then All the other people they're just waiting like oh who's this douche get out of the way and then they bombed Wow Yeah, but it was better off. He's better off. You don't want that manager. Yeah, yeah person that gives up on you immediately Yeah, after one bad set remember getting new faces. faces? What did you guys call it for improv? That was it for, well improv doesn't exist. Improv, also the touring that I'm doing now for improv doesn't exist. It's the first time that we're playing, like the venues that I play are bigger

Starting point is 00:12:53 than any improv tour that's ever happened. So we're like trying to show that, I'd love to hear your honest, I know you guys are always honest, but your honest, anytime I talk to stand-ups or do stand-up podcasts, I feel like stand-ups kinda shit on improv a little bit. Yeah. No, no.

Starting point is 00:13:07 I literally at the same time do. 100%. But not good improv people though. I mean, I think, look, here's the thing. If you're great at improv, it's like, that's insane. But I've seen, it's like, it's kinda like magic. You see someone who's bad. That's exactly what I say.

Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh, I'm talking about magic and generous, the idea of like when you pull it off. But it's the same with you guys when you have a great stand-up set and everything's going. There's so much bad stand-up. How are stand-ups, you know, how are we portrayed outside of stand-up?

Starting point is 00:13:33 We look like the corniest. No, stand-up, no, because you can point to a thousand movies. You can point to a thousand specials. You can even point, like you can point to Pryor or Steve Martin. You have different versions of stand-up and improv, but for Mildred and Schwartz there was only like one real special out there and then there's a documentary on a team

Starting point is 00:13:50 called TJ and Dave who are great, but it was a doc kind of, and the other one was like Ask Kat, which was a UCB show, but it was on Bravo and it was shot different, so it wasn't really what they do. So like, we never had someone we could point to, like a Kevin Hart special or. Who's line, I know that's super mainstream. But that's short form, I do that totally different.

Starting point is 00:14:07 So that's like quick little jokes as opposed to like. So you're like building something. Yeah, like we do, so if you ever watch a special, it's an hour, an hour and a half, like almost a play. We do an entire hour, we talk to an audience member for 10, 15 minutes. For Ben Schwartz and friends, what I did this year was, I asked the audience what's,

Starting point is 00:14:24 tell me about the most exciting day or night of your life. And people raised their hands, and we picked someone that doesn't seem fucking bananas. And then we asked them, they tell us a story about the most exciting day or night of their life. And then we said, thank you so much, they don't talk to the rest of the show,

Starting point is 00:14:35 and then we improvised for 70 minutes. Jeez! Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we tried to do the whole thing. And now I'm trying to give an intermission, because I'm kind of learning that, to give even more show, and people like going and getting to drink, and we to give an intermission because I'm kind of learning that to give even more show, and people like going and getting to drink, like we never gave an intermission,

Starting point is 00:14:49 but now the venues are also like, they would appreciate it and stuff like that. So we're doing two halves. So we're doing two tiny shows, but by the end of the second one, we're calling back everything from both. Wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:01 Are you ever up there when you're like, are you ever like, no, that's bad. Give me someone else When I'm interviewing the audience here's all the time Yeah Because I can also tell when like if they're telling us a story Like there's an example of I was like tell us the most exciting day in our life and guys like it was in Chicago We're playing in Chicago theater and he goes dude when the when the Cubs won the World Series. I was like amazing Were you there? He's like, nope. I watched on my TV and I was like, okay did anything happen? He goes I watched the game a man and I was like amazing were you there? He's like nope, I watched it on my TV. And I was like okay, did anything happen? He goes I watched the game my man.

Starting point is 00:15:26 And I was like well, we have to do this for an hour and a half. We need to tell us a story or like you know. It's who are you around or blah blah blah. So it's like, so I learn really quick. Like oh this isn't gonna be good or this person's really excited and that really doesn't have anything to say.

Starting point is 00:15:41 But I'll like politely go to someone else or someone else. But the most I'll go to is probably three people or something like that and then I'll be like, all right, we got to figure out something from these three. Have you ever had one of those, because you've done a million shows I assume. Yeah. You ever had one of those ones like, there's good, there's great, and then one is just magic. Everything just comes together.

Starting point is 00:15:57 I did improv for like 10 minutes. Did you? I had a, oh yeah, somebody told me if you're going to do stand up you should do an improv class just to learn how to rip. This is great. Where did you take an improv class? The pit., I perform in the pit. Yeah, who's your teacher? Oh nice He was an old kooky guy Armando Diaz Maybe he's not kooky, but he's like the old school. He's like the veteran over there. He was that he was we was low bar

Starting point is 00:16:19 Oh, he's like the guy that like their forms named after Armando Diaz. Yeah, okay, this guy, he's intro, he probably was an intern that they gave us, but it was bad but first thing I noticed was improvisers are supportive. Comet's like, get out of my way, you piece of shit. Open mics at standup were like, they're just not listening. Ruthless. The guy I toured with was like now one of my best friends. Barack Obama. Barack Obama.

Starting point is 00:16:43 We started out, you started out bad, but. No, my friend Gary Veeder just saw me spacing out during an open mic set at Maui Taco, and he goes, this fucking asshole's not listening. That's how I met him. Really? And we were on a show the next night, and he goes, I'm really sorry.

Starting point is 00:16:56 And I was like, nah, I get it. Oh, he saw how much bigger you were. Sorry about that. He's a little guy. Oh, is he? Yeah. Oh, amazing. But yeah, you got, it was first of all, it was crazy supportive. That's when I knew, I was like, this isn't for me. Oh is he? Yeah. Amazing. But yeah, first of all it was crazy supportive,

Starting point is 00:17:06 that's when I knew I was like this isn't for me. Because I didn't care about any of them, you know, but they were super nice and they were like, oh you need a place to go to Thanksgiving? And I was like, ugh. Oh, I mean like in life they were supportive. Both, everywhere. That's great, this makes me so happy for my community.

Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah. And you're scared of it, you hate it. Well, I just wasn't, I knew it wasn't my scene. How are you at improv? Were you so, I bet you were very, you're trying to get the laughs so you're not thinking about the scene. Yes, exactly.

Starting point is 00:17:28 Whenever I, for people to start with standups that start like, they'll break the scene to make themselves look funny. Like if I'll be like, I'll be like, man, it's, God, it's cold out here. They'll be like, no, it's not. And I'm like, well. No.

Starting point is 00:17:40 It's like, now you got a joke and the scene is over, but now that joke is over. We could build some. We're like ball is over. We could have built some. We're like ball hogs. I wasn't that bad. I hate the negate guy. That guy's, get rid of him. That guy's a problem.

Starting point is 00:17:50 The negate guy. The real N-word. I think it's crazy that you had no one to look for to like what you want as a career. People don't really get paid for this. True. You guys have a thousand examples of people getting paid. Exactly, like there was a trajectory. Like what did you think your career would be? get paid for this. True. You guys have a thousand examples of people getting paid.

Starting point is 00:18:05 Exactly, like there was a trajectory. Like what did you think your career would be? We performed for free. We probably shouldn't get into this too much, but at UCB, I performed for free for my entire career for from 2003 to 2009. I never got paid for a show. And then at the beginning,

Starting point is 00:18:19 this is why I think it happens at the beginning, nobody's coming to my shows, literally nobody. But I'm still able to get up and do 30 minutes of improv. So like they're not making money at all. They're losing money off me. And slowly as I got better and better and the shows got better. Sadie M.

Starting point is 00:18:33 The word got out. Word got out, people started being like, oh, you should come see this guy or our group or hot sauce or shitty jobs or something. And then now we're selling out every show, but still not getting paid. But in my head, it's probably, I mean, I don't even know how much this,

Starting point is 00:18:44 so when you go to a Comedy Cellar, how much do you guys get paid? We should, we should put it in there. Oh. Yeah, well, yeah, that's what it would cut that out. Oh, really? Beep it.

Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah. Why, you think that's bad? It's weird, I feel like they look bad, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, it's like a week, a week and a week and a week. Per set. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah. And then you guys will try to fit in a bunch of different sets of one. But I think the deal in our head at this point is like, we're trying shit. Yeah. When you're starting out, you gotta kill every set.

Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah, it's gotta be so much pressure. You must have been way more nervous before than now. Cause you can bomb and not care now. 100%. We still care, but. Still hurts. Yeah, it still feels bad, but it's like, you know, you look, did I get a new bit?

Starting point is 00:19:27 Like we were honing a joke, a joke joke joke set for like a week for this roast. Yeah. And we were really like, you have to really be hard on each other because we'd never worked together on a set. Right. Really? So we're like, yeah, we've never gone up together.

Starting point is 00:19:40 So we're like, we'll just, like that. What was that like thing? Because you guys both have specials, you guys both have your own thing. Is it weird? This is you guys. Completely new and different, but we've worked together for 15 years on jokes,

Starting point is 00:19:52 but this is the first time we went up together and told them, so you have to be like, that one's not hitting, or you got two killers, I got two weak ones, we gotta sweep and swap. Do you ever share a joke? Someone sets it up and the other one punches, or no, it's always I do my bit, then you do your bit, I do my bit, you do your bit.

Starting point is 00:20:06 We tag each other, but we didn't, we didn't, do we, we didn't show it. We didn't want to get too Sklar brother-y. Yeah. You know, we wanted to keep it stand-uppy kind of, not that they're not stand-ups, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Like we didn't want to like, finish each other's sentence. Did you like,

Starting point is 00:20:17 love the Sklar brothers. Did you like, also huge Knicks fans, or huge basketball fans, huge sports fans. Did you like, would you want to do it again? I don't know, you hate it? Well, the show was such a, I feel like we came prepared. The show was a little unorganized. Right.

Starting point is 00:20:31 So that's the risk you take. Right, right. I think we could do it again if we were. If we wanted to. If we wanted to. Yeah. Do we secretly hate each other? Yeah, it's rough.

Starting point is 00:20:40 You've barely looked each other in the eyes. That's my, I can't look people in the eyes. That's really not him, yeah. Why not? Eh, it's too intimate. He's gotten better other in the eyes. That's my, I can't look people in the eye. Really? That's me, not him, yeah. Why not? That's too intimate. He's gotten better though. I'm doing it with you right now.

Starting point is 00:20:49 Try, try looking me in the eyes. I'll kiss you. No you won't, talk to me for two seconds. Just saying. Kiss him. All right. Why, what does it feel? It just feels like.

Starting point is 00:20:58 It's too, what are we gonna, hug? We're talking to each other. Well, I'm listening. If I look in the eye, I'll listen less. When you do stand up, where do you look? Right over the head. Never look at anybody. Well, that's different,

Starting point is 00:21:10 because I think when you look at the audience, they're going, ha ha. Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. I don't wanna force a laugh. I also, I hate when I see the audience. I love when it's totally dark. Same. I love when I hear the, for me, if it's like a big show,

Starting point is 00:21:22 you know, I come out, after all these shows, I've probably done 2,000 shows by now, but it's like after all these shows, like I'm not nervous anymore unless it's like a big one, like unless a biggie is coming up. But I'm always, whenever I get my first laugh, I'm fine. I'm so comfortable. I just tend to like, okay, we're here, we're going to have fun. I feel like a part of what I do,

Starting point is 00:21:42 I remember Jim Carrey used to say this also, is trying to make the audience feel comfortable. So it was like at the beginning when I come out there, because for improv, they're like, they're gonna make it all up on the spot. It could bomb. Oh my God, I'm nervous for these guys. I come out, I talk to the audience for five minutes,

Starting point is 00:21:55 just talk to them. And then I invite the people I bring on my show, which is three people, whoever, I change it per show. And then we all talk to the audience. And then I do the interview, and now everybody's fucking calm. The audience knows what then I do the interview, and now we're, everybody's fucking calm, the audience knows what's gonna happen, they're relaxed, we're relaxed,

Starting point is 00:22:09 and then we do the show, and it always helps. Is there a version of that for you guys, or you have to go out blasting with a great joke? I go out blasting. I wanna get them right away, because I don't feel like they trust that I'm funny. Right. To prove it right away.

Starting point is 00:22:21 But they know what standup is. Sometimes people at our shows don't know what improv is. That's true. So it's like, they're like, what's gonna happen? So we gotta kind of explain it right away. But they know what stand up is. Sometimes people at our shows don't know what improv is. That's true. They're like, what's gonna happen? So we kind of explain it to them. I get that there's less of a trust thing with you guys. Yeah, or just from the audience, just being like, what's gonna happen?

Starting point is 00:22:33 Just a little bit nervous. And now they're learning more about it. People always go, stand up, I don't know how you doing? It's so brave and it takes balls. This to me is way ballsier. Cause you have no net. We have nothing. We have, at least if it's written,

Starting point is 00:22:44 and it still could bomb, but you know what you're gonna say when you go out there, you gotta go out blank. It's scary, I think stand-up, so for me, when I started doing stand-up, I was way more nervous for stand-up than I was for impulse. Really? Way more, because you have to work, and then you're saying, this is what I found funny.

Starting point is 00:22:59 I find this so funny that I've been working on it for weeks, and now I'm gonna show it to you, let's see what you think. For me, it's like, I listen to something. Now on the spot, and everybody in the audience knows, on the spot, I'm gonna try to make a beautiful scene that makes you laugh. But it's like, we all know what's happening on the spot

Starting point is 00:23:12 and we're trying to find it. You guys are like, I've been working on this. This is the funniest thing I can think of right now. I'm like, let's see what you think. And if they say no, it almost feels like, but again, anytime I talk to a standup, it's the same thing. They're like, I'm not gonna go on stage with nothing.

Starting point is 00:23:24 That's crazy. By the way, you're looking so much'm not gonna go on stage with nothing. That's crazy, crazy. By the way, you're looking so much more. This is amazing. Do you feel yourself doing it? Full nose. You're looking at my nose, you can't look at my eyes. Even the greats have a low batting average though. I mean, we were talking about the other,

Starting point is 00:23:34 we'd throw jokes that we thought were hilarious to each other out and it would get just nothing. Yeah. I had one that I was like, maybe that's a bit. And the line between truthful and too mean is so thin. I had an angle that wasn't working that he thought was funny. It was about Luigi and about,

Starting point is 00:23:53 we were doing all these topical jokes. Oh, just recently then? Yeah, it was last week. Yeah. Remember that one? You were like, that's gotta be in it, because it hit, and then the next show, they looked at me like I was the biggest asshole

Starting point is 00:24:03 in the world where I said, you know, women, you know, you like all these bad boys. It was like Luigi Mangione and the Menendez brothers. Like you like these guys are hot. I'm like, maybe that's why you're so mad that they're taking away a woman's right to choose. You choose horribly. Oh, God. That's funny. And how'd it go? The first show it killed. And then the second show they were like, what? Are you guys the barometers for each other? Well, a little, but you can never know as good as the audience. But no, I'm saying for you guys,

Starting point is 00:24:28 who's the person you go to to be like, is this funny? Is it each other? We text each other sometimes. We text each other. Not just is this funny, but like. That's cooperative, that's amazing. Not just is this funny, but is this hack? Has this been done?

Starting point is 00:24:37 Right, right, right. Does someone do this angle? But like, you know, you're doing, when you see a perfectly honed joke, like there was trial and error, it didn't just come out perfect, that thought, I mean, cause we're so numb, we're so numb to what, we didn't realize how offensive some of the jokes

Starting point is 00:24:51 were telling our because we just don't, we were like, that's silly. Yeah, you guys are your own audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we were trying out jokes where they were like, like we had a couple of Stephen Hawking jokes where they're like, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? And we're like, oh my God, we thought that was just like a funny play on words.

Starting point is 00:25:03 I don't know. Oh wow. Right, sometimes you get so lost in the mechanics of that was just like a funny play on words. I don't know. Oh wow. Right, sometimes you get so lost in the mechanics of the joke, like the word play or the punch line, they don't realize we're saying something about Lizzo being fat. Yeah. Like I used to have a joke where I go,

Starting point is 00:25:15 you know, kids in the back of the day, they yelled shotgun. Now when they yell, they're in a classroom. Yeah. And to me, I'm just like shotgun, shotgun. There you go, that's a joke. Right. The audience is like, Jesus, you're talking about dead kids. And I'm like, oh yeah. I was just like shotgun, shotgun. There you go, that's a joke. The audience is like Jesus, you're talking about dead kids. And I'm like oh yeah, I was just working

Starting point is 00:25:28 on the shotgun thing. Right, so you're like, then you adjust. Nah, I kept it. But my crowd liked it. No, you have to tweak though, I mean that's the thing, it's like you do figure, that's why we still do the seller because some comics get spoiled with their crowd and then they.

Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, I agree. then they only can, no you wanna make sure you're still just funny to the masses. Yes, although when you go tour, people are seeing you for you guys, so you can do your style, whatever. That's why it's interesting when you did that roast, that's not your audience.

Starting point is 00:25:58 People there may like you guys, but they're not there just to see you. That probably is more nerve wracking. It was, yeah, that's why we prepared the shit out of it. Yeah, that's awesome. We were, I mean, we were on a flight, that was great, just being on a flight, I mean, the people next to us must've thought

Starting point is 00:26:11 we were the worst human beings. We're just bouncing. Terrible mean jokes. Well, literally, Jeff Ross is revealing he has cancer on this thing, he's okay. In real life? Yeah. What type of cancer does he have? Colon. Really?

Starting point is 00:26:23 But we're bouncing, like, cancer jokes off each other, because we're like, he wanted us to roast him for the cancer. In real life? Yeah. What type of cancer does he have? Colon. Colon. Really? But we're bouncing like cancer jokes off each other cause we're like, he wanted us to roast him for the cancer. Really? Yeah, he thought he was like, he was like moved by the fact that we could roast him. Is he in remission?

Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, they're cutting the last chemo short. So he's okay, yeah. I mean, there were so many cancer mist jokes too. Oh yeah. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean, we're just like, what does Jeff look like? yeah. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah, we're just but yeah, I mean We're just like what does Jeff look like a lump Yeah, you're like you look like a lump and like a lump women are terrified to find you in their shower joke

Starting point is 00:26:54 You know, so we're just bouncing bits like that. I imagine hearing that in first class I love that you guys flew first class. Well, they're flying us, you know Netflix. I flew back coach, by the way What the hell why cuz I needed that time slot. That's all they had. Yeah, I'd rather a red-eye and just pass out Did you get any sleep? Yeah? Oh It's the best I felt in weeks. You wake you're ready to go. This guy's sick now everybody I'm the only one that's sick. You're doing great. Thanks. Yeah, I feel good, but back to the movie goddammit Yeah, sure Harry Jim Carrey's in it. Yeah sure Harry Jim carries in it Is that not crazy classic insanely crazy? He's so good in it, too

Starting point is 00:27:30 I don't know if you've seen him But he like he like feels like you know those movies in the 90 obviously you do like where he just crushes She is crushing in these movies. He's so Funny and playing like a big character and then in this one he plays Himself which is Ivar Robotnik, then he plays his grandfather. Oh wow. So he's playing two characters who play with each other, so he would do scenes where he would do one side,

Starting point is 00:27:52 and someone else would be the other guy, and then he'd have to respond to what he did the day before as the other character. Wow. So it seems it was just him two. And would he watch the scene so he'd kinda nail it? He'd pick which ones, which takes that I think he wanted. I'm never on set, I'm in a booth the whole time.

Starting point is 00:28:05 Sure, sure. Is that weird that you're just not, he's in this movie. So I only get to see him for like press. Uh, well at least you get to see him. It's amazing, Keanu Reeves is in this one too. Whoa! So we did, dude yeah, we did press and the line was uh, Idris Elba's in it. Jesus!

Starting point is 00:28:20 Keanu Reeves is in it, Jim Carrey's in it, James Morrison is in it, and I'm just looking down the line and it's like fucking fucking oceans 11. It's like crazy That's like all these huge actors in a video game movie Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah, that's crazy all these pictures are fucking bananas That's incredible you made it. It's crazy and do you have any cool Jim Carrey stories or Keanu? Keanu love so Keanu I just the thing is like the I shook Keanu's hand beforehand and he seemed really nice and then we were doing this, the UK red carpet and we closed down Leicester Square. Would you guys ever been to London?

Starting point is 00:28:51 It's like a huge deal. It's like our Times Square kind of. And so they closed it down. There's an enormous thing. I've only said hello to Keanu and said, hey man, I'm a big fan, shook his hand. He was very nice. And then they come to me, they go,

Starting point is 00:29:01 hey, you're gonna go live on television with Keanu in 20 seconds. And then they go, I go, what? And they bring me to the end. And there's a woman from ITV, a local news station there, a big one, and she has a microphone, and she's like, nice to meet you. And I go, and Keanu looks at me,

Starting point is 00:29:14 and then I was like, I guess we're, this is like how I meet you, and let's go. And they're like, all right, three, two, one, and they do the interview. And I kinda started playing in the interview and being like, doing a little bit of bits, and he immediately jumped on. All right! And loved it, and the whole the interview, and I kinda started playing in the interview and being like, doing a little bit of bits and he immediately jumped on. All right!

Starting point is 00:29:27 And loved it, and the whole press tour, when we did interviews together, we would do bits. Wow. And he was, he just couldn't wait, of course. He was like, he was the best. That's great. We had the best time. Look at that, that's a photo.

Starting point is 00:29:40 You gotta frame that. I know, it's crazy. I do, I did, it's amazing. Well, I'm just glad he's still working, because like, Mike Myers is kinda done and the Eddie Murphy's kind of done It's just good to see dude. He's so funny in this thing Eddie Murphy was in a movie like four months He came out with three movies And a new Beverly Hills cop yeah, all right why shit I missed it But this was that's the London that's the London premiere Carrey has, other than this, he hasn't done.

Starting point is 00:30:06 I think this is the only movies he's done since COVID maybe? Wow. Could be. Because our movie came out during COVID. I think he's semi, like he said he's semi-retired. He takes power breaks. Yeah, yeah. Which he's like, I just, if something amazing happens

Starting point is 00:30:23 and I wanna jump in, I'll jump in. But like outside of that, it's like, I think, if something amazing happens and I wanna jump in, I'll jump in. But like outside of that, it's like, I think he's pretty content and a pretty, he's a very spiritual guy. He's pretty remarkable. Yeah, he's a painter now. He paints, he does everything, he's amazing. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:37 I mean, what kind of stuff, when you guys talk, what kind of stuff do you talk about? We'll talk about, he's very macro, very big universe type thing. You guys ever know Shanley and all? Were you friends with Shanley and all? Love talk about, he's very macro, very big universe type thing. You guys ever know Shanley and all? Were you friends with Shanley and all? Love Shanley, we never met him. Okay, so I was very close with him,

Starting point is 00:30:50 he was one of my guys. Wait, you knew him? I played in his basketball league every week for six years. Larry Sanders is like my cover watch. Larry Sanders I think is the best. Gotta get him on the wall. Why is he not on the wall? There he is.

Starting point is 00:31:02 Oh there he is, good. He's the best. Oh and he was so close to Bob, so the fact that they're next to each other makes me so happy. He's probably really close to Norm too. But he was very spiritual also, so it's like that type of feel

Starting point is 00:31:12 where he was like a Buddhist kinda. Yes. He would talk about spiritual stuff all the time. He was enlightened. Yes, Jim has that. I think he was the most famous person in the world, Jim, for so long I think. Sure, I believe it.

Starting point is 00:31:24 That I wonder, we can't, we can't, we could never relate to what it feels like to be him because even when we go to dinner or something, when he walks in, you know, when we're with like a famous comedian, some people look and like they're excited, but like he is, there's nobody that doesn't know who he is. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:38 So he can't have a genuine normal experience, I bet. I don't know, I'm not asking, but it's like, when he walks in, I remember when, I was a pageant Letterman, and Letterman's security guard would be like, Letterman can't even go get a pack of cigarettes. Sure. He can't, and like, he wants to, but he can't, and that drives him crazy or whatever. So for Jim, I wonder if it's like, he's amazing,

Starting point is 00:31:58 like he doesn't, he says hello to everybody, he's incredible, you guys would love him. It is crazy, I remember I was doing like a interview thing at the Big Three tournament when that started the NBA. Oh, yeah, and who'd you interview like ice cube everyone? Yeah, but then that's so exciting and everyone was like oh cool that guy Oh Kenyon Martin this guy was a good place Good players right New Jersey and Allen Iverson walked in and it was like that where everyone just like everyone was like yeah Oh, it was that type of energy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah is definitely a league above I mean he's's a superstar. And it's just everyone's, you get a little starstruck

Starting point is 00:32:28 because it's Alan Iverson. Of course. I feel like also before you meet somebody that we've known in movies or TV or standup for a long time, before you meet them, they're the person you've seen, they're not real person yet. They're like this fictional character.

Starting point is 00:32:40 And then when they start talking like normal humans, like, oh, I can like bond with you about real shit. Right. And then they become human beings and stuff like that. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. Of course. Who was a good Hooper in the Shanley League?

Starting point is 00:32:52 Who was in that? Who is it? There's a bunch, by the way, it was a thing where we were always supposed to, he liked to keep it private, nobody talk about it, nobody talk about it. And then when he passed away, like a big article about it came out

Starting point is 00:33:02 in like a couple of magazines. And I was like, oh, the whole point was like to not whatever. But like standups that played there that were amazing. Kevin Nealon in there? Dude, Kevin Nealon I think is one of the funniest people in the world. Wow, we were just talking about that. And Adam McKay played in that too.

Starting point is 00:33:15 And he's also one of the funniest people in the world. But Nealon would do these bits where he would be like, he's just so committed. He commits so hard to bits. He would be near, he's just so committed. He commits so hard to bits. He would be near, he was standing near a tree and he goes, Ben, did I ever show you my coach giraffe character? And I go, coach giraffe?

Starting point is 00:33:33 I go, no, let me see it, Kevin. And he literally did this. So imagine, you know, he's six foot three, probably or four, something like that. And he goes, I need you to get out there. I need you to play three, two, D-Friends. You know, make two, three, D-Friends. I need two guards up top, three in the bottom.

Starting point is 00:33:43 And then he slowly eats a leaf. Just eats a leaf and never, and he commits like a real monologue from a goat, but slowly eats leaves throughout the whole thing. And it was, he's so funny. That's great. And his delivery is so dry that it's like so good. Yeah, can we pull up?

Starting point is 00:34:00 I know this could be a tough find, but Larry, I'm sorry. Gary? Gary, I'm sorry. Gary? Gary, I'm thinking Larry Sanders. Gary on the green room going at it with Bo Burnham. It's pretty funny. They're both funny. With Bo Burnham? They kinda got into it a little bit.

Starting point is 00:34:14 They kinda get in a little squabble, but they're both funny and it's good. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna take some whittling down because it's a long clip, but. Yeah, this looks like it's just Bo. I think it's right out of the gate. This show was amazing, by the way. It was a good show. It was like long clip, but. Yeah, this looks like it's just both. I think it's right out of the gate. This show was amazing, by the way. It was a good show.

Starting point is 00:34:26 It was like tough crowd, but. He shouldn't be able to talk before him. Yeah, yeah, I understand. Well, there's a lineup. Fair point. I am, yeah, I'm of the. He's like 22 here. God, he's so young in this.

Starting point is 00:34:36 Wonder for all of you. Here we go. Who are you? So that gets it a fun laugh. Young guy with this. He's shambling, he's locking and loading no he's that's him respecting the joke Absolutely, that's him respect hold on See it's so good because it's so mutual

Starting point is 00:34:58 The delivery was so perfect. I mean that was like he's a a shit. He would work on stuff for a bit also like Like Gary, I don't know if we needed that part But that's amazing that's them playing with each other So funny Larry Sanders, I think is the best comedy ever made I watch it so much it's it's perfect And it makes the stars with Hank. Oh my god Hank Kingsley is on There's this scene where they do where he's asking, he's trying to get him to ask, or he's trying to either ask to be invited for a party,

Starting point is 00:35:33 and Hank comes in the room pretending like he has boxing tickets for the same night, or like he's trying to offer boxing tickets, I wonder if we can find it. There's also one where he like, and he goes in his pocket and he's like, so Larry Sanders calls him out on it being like Let me see the tickets. Let's go and he goes, huh? Cuz let me see tickets. I'd love to go there

Starting point is 00:35:49 And he's like I'm butchering this by the way if you find it. It's unbelievable. All right Um, I'm sure we've seen the scene. I'm sure you have but it's them at the office Anyway, but he goes in his pockets and he only has pills and he's like cast embarrassing like I don't have the tickets I love I love I just watched one where he has this long scene with Gloria Steinem, and it's so painful Hank Kingsley does yeah, and there's this long talk, and he's just like I just want you to know I'm a feminist I think women can do anything men can do he goes men You know we're a little bit stronger

Starting point is 00:36:20 You know has to throw that in and she's just in in hell for like that whole minute And then she walks away, and he turns to his receptionist and goes she's got a great ass. It's just perfect. Appetite wrote on that show there's so many great writers on that show. Oh yeah everybody like Young Piven, Young Duchovny. Sarah was on that show. Sarah did that show. I saw Todd Barry the other day like this is amazing. I just saw Todd Barry in LA. Yeah I love it. LA sighting of Todd Barry is very rare. That's gross. Very rare.

Starting point is 00:36:47 It doesn't even sunlight. This is it, this is exactly it. Wow, all right, Peter. I can't believe you found it. This is the exact scene. I hope you're sitting down. Oh, jeez, I am sitting down. Well then, don't get up, because I have here.

Starting point is 00:37:05 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Don't get up because I have here So good Would like to bring You That's great, let me see him. Let me see him. Come on, Hank. Let me see. This is, these are vitamins. Please invite me to your party. There are no tickets. Hank, I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in.

Starting point is 00:37:30 I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in.

Starting point is 00:37:38 I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. I was just going to invite you when you came in. Hey now!

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Starting point is 00:38:52 the same time, they kind of came up together. Did they? Did both, did Carson. Yeah, Carson, yeah. Very paralleled careers stand up wise and they really fell in love with each other and became fast friends. They both get a sitcom. This is in the same lot. Seinfeld and Larry fast friends. They both get a sitcom. This is in the same lot.

Starting point is 00:39:05 Seinfeld and Larry Sanders show. And so they got to do the shows together. And then both win Emmys together. I mean it's pretty pretty wild. That's crazy. Yeah they were tight. That's amazing. I know he did a so Shanley did these things on the DVD. If you get this black box out of it where he did these incredible interviews with people from the show. But they were like slow, patient interviews, and he wanted them, if they felt uncomfortable, that's what they were, if they, like he just let them be what they were,

Starting point is 00:39:32 and they let them play for a long time. And they were amazing, some of the coolest interviews ever, because he's interviewing comics, he's interviewing actresses like Sharon Stone, and like all these people that did the show. They dated for a while too. Did they? Yeah. And then I think he did it with Seinfeld, then I think he did it with Seinfeld or,

Starting point is 00:39:47 I think it was Seinfeld, yeah, right? I've seen that. Or was that maybe that was Seinfeld's coffee? No, no, no. It was way before that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he did one with Seinfeld, but those are the cool, especially if you like comedy,

Starting point is 00:39:59 the cool, he did one with Tom Petty and was like, he was boxing with Alec Baldwin. Whoa! The Alec Baldwin one? Yeah, Baldwin's like kind of trying to alpha him. But he kept it Petty and was like, he was boxing with Alec Baldwin. Whoa! The Alec Baldwin one? Yeah, Baldwin's like kind of trying to alpha him. But he kept it in because he's like, he always talked, I remember when he did, he would always talk about keeping everything in.

Starting point is 00:40:14 He's like, yeah, but like, even instead of adding it down, what if we just kept, let the whole thing breathe. Let people understand how he got there, let it be uncomfortable for a bit. When he went near the end, I remember he always was pitching that, like you're talking about how people would edit stuff down. Like even when he was doing interviews or like things, he was like, how fun if you just

Starting point is 00:40:29 kept that whole thing in and see what it felt like. That's what podcasts are. Yeah, I was going to say, before podcasts, seeing that kind of stuff was so rare. I remember on the bench there in the park, and Seinfeld's like, don't you hate when everybody says comedians are depressed? Like people driving bread trucks aren't depressed. Come on, get the hell out of here. And he goes, I'm sensing rage.

Starting point is 00:40:45 And I fucking broke up, it was great. It's great. He's the king, he's the best delivery. He's the best guy ever, I miss him so much. Another nerdy comedy nugget, have you seen the Ricky Gervais interview with him? Yes, and Ricky went to his house before he was supposed to.

Starting point is 00:41:00 Yes. Like in real life, he went to his house. He's annoyed. Yes, he should be. Yeah, and he kinda calls him out, it's all on tape. Yeah. It's great. It's nothing that isn't out there, but I think they were supposed to interview each other

Starting point is 00:41:10 for each other's things. Yes, yes. And Ricky kinda set up and like did everything and like he didn't have his contacts in yet, you know what I mean? Like it was like. Well that I'm a big kid. It was like.

Starting point is 00:41:19 Pretty cringe. It was, it wasn't, I don't think it was handled the best way. And Gervais does that big high-pitched laugh He goes are you really mad are you actually mad and he's like yeah. Yeah, man. That's great You got to find the yeah, that's in his house there It is it's part one because it's right in the beginning so you can skip all though the makeup bullshit And if you get right to the what he gets in the house should have gifted you YouTube premium

Starting point is 00:41:41 Why don't we give you a freaking? Yeah, we're a gun But didn't he say also that like the office couldn't exist unless Sanders came out oh Wow, I think that's what Ricky said nice feather in your cap. That's what I think Ricky said Yeah, you're probably right cuz like he just he just Put no abstract a lot of those kind of awkward just let it play out scenes. I mean right Nice so young and chubby Yeah, he's in the house Such an LA house his living room

Starting point is 00:42:11 It's like a British thing to wear the muscle tee when you don't have muscles cuz that was like a Simon Cowell thing, too Oh, yeah Going through his fridge. That's crazy. Here it is He's already directing. It's your house. Was that you that was looking this way? Who was looking right here when I was walking in? When I was standing out there,

Starting point is 00:42:34 didn't you see that I was walking in? No. Hold on. Before I shake your hand and say First you said, No, that wasn't me. I didn't see you. I swear I didn't see you. He's like a lawyer. If it looks like me, and it smells like you, then it might have been me. I doubt that it's you. What are you doing? It's my contact lenses.

Starting point is 00:43:07 That's why I have these on. These are my prescriptions, son of a... Okay. Hi. Pleasure to see you. How are you? Gary Sandling. I've never met Ricky before.

Starting point is 00:43:16 So this is actually... Thrill? Uncomfortable. Great. And yet exciting because there will never be, as they say, this first moment again when I meet you the first time Where'd you want to do this interview then? The kitchen sink isn't so bad. All right. All right. All right, we can keep going But yeah, these are these rigged if he does the one with Larry David, they're all great

Starting point is 00:43:39 Amazing Sanders is the Sanders Shanley is the king The best. I miss him so much. Yeah. So fun. I mean, what was your relationship like with him? I mean, we would see each other every week for a long time. He had a basketball game. So we went there. Sarah was the one who invited me over there for the first one.

Starting point is 00:43:55 And I was really young. I'd just moved to LA and Sarah played my sister in a movie. And I played basketball. Back then I played basketball a lot. Multiple times a week. My favorite thing to do. And then you get older and your knees hurt more. Becomes harder to do.

Starting point is 00:44:08 And so we never talk business. We all just do whatever. When we're playing, everybody's really trying, really playing. And then afterwards we'd all watch sports together. And that's when we'd do bits and everything. And the funniest people in the world are just in the room. And then it becomes normal after a while

Starting point is 00:44:24 because you're there every week. But he was the best. I could text him, I could talk to him about stuff. Wow. Have real conversations, we'd go on hikes and talk about real stuff. He's very, he just has a grasp on life and even looking at things,

Starting point is 00:44:36 it's in such a level that's so much more zoomed out than most other people. So you just want to listen to him, stuff like that. Do you want to hear a sappy, I'll tell you. Please, sap it up. Okay, so when he passed away, it was very sad, very sad. And um. He died?

Starting point is 00:44:50 He did die. Ah. You didn't kill him, right? No, it wasn't me. All right, it wasn't you. Okay, so we, there's a funeral, and there was this crazy funeral where like, everybody from Sanders were there, it was crazy.

Starting point is 00:45:01 And then afterwards, I ate with Wayne Fetterman and Sarah, and we were like talking about Gary, it was crazy. And then afterwards, I ate with Wayne Fetterman and Sarah and we were talking about Gary, it was amazing. Wayne had known him forever, Sarah had known him forever. And then I went home, I know this is probably not the right audience for this, but. Please! I went home and I lived in a small apartment and I had a guitar and I thought,

Starting point is 00:45:22 I said, this is so stupid, I can't believe I'm gonna do this. I said, okay, Gary, if you're there, I know this is stupid, I can't believe I'm gonna do this. I said, okay, Gary, if you're there, I know this is stupid, I can't believe I'm saying this, you're dead, I'm even thinking, I remember even saying, I was like, why would you fucking haunt me? You have so much people that you're closer than I am. But if you're here, like, do something

Starting point is 00:45:40 or make me understand that you're here. And I sat down for like 30 seconds and obviously nothing happened. And I started cracking up so loud being like, oh my God, if he was here, that's exactly what he would fucking do. That's so funny. And then my guitar made a noise

Starting point is 00:45:53 on the other side of the fucking room. No. After I laughed and was like, of course, my guitar made a noise. Nobody was there. It was just me in the apartment. Eee. Crazy.

Starting point is 00:46:02 That's beyond. And immediately call Sarah, was like, you'll never fucking, this is insane. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Kooky. Very kooky. Kooky, one more.

Starting point is 00:46:13 Dooky, good album. Way off. Ah shit. Well, last nugget on Shanley and then I'll put it to bed. Please. Do you see the documentary about him? Yeah. Appetow made, it's great.

Starting point is 00:46:24 It was great. Gorgeous. My favorite. Every doc he's made on comedy lately has been. Yeah, Appetow is. Please. Do you see the documentary about him? Yeah. Appetow made, it's great. Gorgeous. My favorite. Every doc he's made on comedy lately has been. Yeah, Appetow is, yeah. He is someone who loves comedy. The first half is always great. But, so, he always does two-parters. But, okay. Funny people, four-parter.

Starting point is 00:46:40 But. Now you can't get him on the podcast. What are you doing? Oh, we've had him many times. He's a friend. There you go, friend. But, he told his wife wanted to get married or his girlfriend wanted to get married. We gotta get married, we gotta get married. Gary did. Yeah, Gary's girlfriend's like, we have to get married. You're like 48.

Starting point is 00:46:55 Linda. Was that it? Maybe, maybe. Keep going. So he's like, I don't want to get married. I'm scared. She's like, you gotta marry me. And he goes, how about this? I'll marry you when the house is finished being built. And she was like done that that works And he's like alright, and he kept adding wings to the house just to get out of the marriage

Starting point is 00:47:11 He was like oh the pool's not done. Oh, we got to the garage is halfway, and then she'd be like well the garage is done He's like I had a guest room to the third floor like so he kept building and then he died That's so funny. Yeah, his house was never done. You always talks about how much more work he had to do to his house. What a great loophole. That's so funny. That is a commitment foe. That is crazy. I love it. That's so funny.

Starting point is 00:47:30 You love it. I'm a commitment foe. I caved because I can't afford to build more house. But- Ran out of things to build. Yeah, but so cool. I love that this is a love fest for Gary. What a cool thing, because a lot of people

Starting point is 00:47:41 probably that listen to you probably don't even know about Larry Sandberg or his stuff. I know. I think a lot of them know. We have a probably don't even know about Larry Sanders or his stuff. I know. I think a lot of them know, we have a lot of comedy nerds. All right, good, good, good. Yeah, I mean, an incredible standup too. We haven't been talking to a standup. Incredible.

Starting point is 00:47:51 He was so strong. If you haven't seen the Larry Sanders show, that's your rec for this week. You got that right. Great show. Amazing show. He's got a joke, oh, I'm gonna fuck this up. He goes, you know I fucked Miss Georgia.

Starting point is 00:48:03 And then a guy goes, really? Goes, well, former Miss Georgia. He goes, you know, I fucked Miss Georgia. And then a guy goes, really? Goes, well, former Miss Georgia. He goes, well, really? He goes, all right, it was George Foreman. Which Norm McDonald, the king, the funniest guy ever, quotes that as like, I can see how every joke is constructed. I've been doing comedy so long. He's like, I have no idea how he wrote that joke.

Starting point is 00:48:22 Really? Yeah, he's just like, that joke is on another level of joke writing. Did you have Norm on this podcast? There's two of you. No, we never did's like, I have no idea how he wrote that joke. Really? Yeah, he's just like, that joke is on another level of joke writing. Did you have Norm on this podcast? No, we never did. No, I wish. This started after he passed, I think. Oh no, we, no, we,

Starting point is 00:48:32 He died. We got the news while we were rolling. Yeah. Really? That was tough. That's gotta be, did you get it on camera? Is it like, wow, that must be so hard. It was September 14th, I wanna say.

Starting point is 00:48:43 September 13th, give it a go, cause I still remember the date. Wow. 11. Yeah, we just had Spade on it. We should have asked. Oh yeah. We should have asked some more Norm stories. Colin Quinn always. Oh my God, dude.

Starting point is 00:48:53 Bam! Are you good with dates? Are you that? I'm autistic. Are you for real? Well, no, I just remember that date. It's my birthday is four days later, too. My birthday is September 15th. Hey, Virgo. Come on.

Starting point is 00:49:04 Virgo, you too. What's your birthday? Whoa! What are we chicks? What are we doing here? This is great, isn't it? September 15th. Hey, Virgo. Come on. Virgo, you too. What's your birthday? What are we chicks, what are we doing here? This is great, isn't it? August 29th. Amazing. We're really doing it. We're saying.

Starting point is 00:49:11 What's your favorite Norm joke? Pfft. I love the joke, I mean, I can't pick one, but one of my favorites is, he goes to the gay pride parade. I was gonna say that. Oh my God. Are you fucking kidding me? That joke is like a stat list of all my joke par joke is like a stat I don't know it's great. Can you do it? Don't say what it's like just do it

Starting point is 00:49:29 I'm gonna fuck it up, but it's like he's at the gay pride parade a mom had a sign said I'm proud of my gay son or I'm proud that my son is gay or something and he's like well What are you proud of it's not an accomplishment? You know it's like if you're like I'm my son graduated from law school at Harvard you're like alright That's proud of that that's worthy of being proud of now. You're just like he loves cock. Yeah, something like that I can't do it like I know you're butchering it, but it's like yeah, you know you're butchering I'm butchering it. Yeah, I know you're butchering it is hilarious. I could I would have done better I it's his delivery is what makes it

Starting point is 00:50:03 Videos sorry is this where you guys watch a lot of videos usually? Not usually, but this is fun. Oh here it is, wow! Peter's is on fire. We can get rid of Salak. Salak is canned. And I saw in it there were these old men and old ladies like with these signs that said,

Starting point is 00:50:19 we are proud of our gay son. That's an odd thing to be proud of, you know, because it's not an achievement, you know? It's not like something you work all your life to be gay or anything like that. Hey Billy, my kid, oh my god we're proud of him. Johnny, he graduated from Harvard you know now he's articling over at Loughurn. Oh yeah he loves cock. First of all that observation is brilliant. Anyone would see I'm proud of my gay son and go oh that's nice. of all, that observation is brilliant. Anyone would see I'm proud of my gay son and go, oh, that's nice, mom's proud of her son.

Starting point is 00:50:49 She's not homophobic, that's nice. He goes, why are you proud of my son? I mean, that's a brilliant- You're kind of mocking the idea of parades. That too. It's kind of taking down the idea of like, well, you were born this way, why are you, I mean, it's good to like, you know, I don't know, it's an observation I hadn't heard.

Starting point is 00:51:07 I love that and I loved- He's so funny. He's also so amazing at like, the joke is this and he'll just make you go here for like five fucking minutes. Yeah, that too. And then come back and crawl. That's one of my favorite stuff that he did was like, the joke is here, he could easily say the punch line

Starting point is 00:51:21 in about 20 seconds or 10 seconds. Yeah. He will take a long walk around to get to that point and then it makes it so much funnier. Fun nugget, the moth story, you know, it's five minutes long. That's a one line. Great, that's an incredible joke. That's probably his like masterpiece.

Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah. The moth joke is one line that Colin Quinn told him. He's like, hey, you ever heard that joke? Why'd the moth go to the therapist? He goes, well, what are you in here for? He goes, the light was on. That's the whole joke. But he made it five minutes long

Starting point is 00:51:45 because Conan said, oh, our guest didn't show, can you stretch a little? No. So he took that joke and just stretched, that was on the fly. Is that true? That's true. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:51:54 You can tell he was improvising that shit too, because he was just like, he was going in weird directions. Shaky. And that joke was amazing too. Knowing when to, I mean, the funniest people have it, but also knowing when to be the straight man,

Starting point is 00:52:05 like a great host, but I was gonna say the Norm joke from his last Letterman set. Oh! When he did the Germany versus the world. Amazing, amazing. Oh, incredible, that's also the set where he gave him a hug and told him how much he meant to him. That was an incredible moment.

Starting point is 00:52:18 Yeah. That was an incredible moment. Letterman didn't give much back, if I can be so bold. I think he's not good with emotions, man. You can't look people in the eyes. Yeah. What are you talking about? Mark wrote me a very long,

Starting point is 00:52:29 I was shocked the message he wrote me yesterday. Well, I get sappy on a plane. I get emotions on a plane. But you won't say it to him, you'll email him. I'll text you. I haven't said the way that you gave your gift to your friend was the most, you didn't look at him and go, we got you something.

Starting point is 00:52:42 I'm bad with that. Literally gave it to him, didn't look. Why, you go, we got you someone. I am bad with that. Literally, literally gave it to him. Literally. Why would we get along? Huh? Matt, so you, we were right here, me and my friend, Emmy, were right here, and he comes in and then has a bag, takes out his dog, I think, or something, no.

Starting point is 00:52:57 And he had it, he goes, yeah, and this is for you. Then we got this for you. No, this is for you, we got it. Didn't look at him, and Matt's enjoying it. Doesn't look at him to see if he's enjoying it. Matt understands what this relationship is and you. We got it. Didn't look at him and Matt's enjoying it. Doesn't look at him to see if he's enjoying it. Matt understands what this relationship is and goes, he just nods and then we're like, oh, that's a cool gift. And Matt's like, yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:13 They're like, yeah, yeah. What's the alternative? I'm like, check it out, dude. That's given like, you see too. You didn't even look at him. I'm sorry I didn't look at you for that. We appreciate you very much. Cause it must've been awkward for you to give a gift. I'm not good at gifts. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm him, you didn't even connect. I'm sorry I didn't look at you for that. We appreciate you very much. Cause it must have been awkward for you to give a gift.

Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm not good at gifts. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm good at getting gifts, I'm not good at giving the gifts. I'm bad, I hate receiving gifts too. I mean, getting, like picking them out for someone. Oh, yeah. I love getting gifts for people,

Starting point is 00:53:36 or I'm good at getting gifts for people who like specific things that I'm all right at. But you're right, giving and receiving. I'm not good at getting compliments either. I get awkward when someone says something nice. I have to find a way to make it about them immediately. I'd say, I'm like, oh, good show. Oh man, you were a dude.

Starting point is 00:53:52 I saw you two weeks ago. You wrote me a long message. I was shocked. I mean, it was a text. Let him get this out. This is good. It was a text this long, which was all how much he appreciated building this thing

Starting point is 00:54:02 with me and I was like, oh wow, you're not like that. No, it was surprising. Do you think you're changing a little bit? As you get older? No, I just think it was- I think you are. It felt necessary. Maybe I'm changing.

Starting point is 00:54:11 I think you are. I think you're more comfortable with your feelings than you were. Guys, I have cancer. Wow, Jesus. Well, you look like a lump. I don't know, it had to be said and it felt like we left abruptly.

Starting point is 00:54:24 We did a podcast and he got into a car, I got into a car, I went to the airport. I love it. We're getting older, we're all getting older. It was too abrupt, so I felt like I needed a ta-da at the end, a button on it. What are you uncomfortable with? Like what makes you?

Starting point is 00:54:37 This dog is unbelievable. Look at that. Absolutely in the zone. I'm not gonna get any compliments, I'm not receiving gifts I'm bad at because I'm afraid I'm not gonna like it before I open it. I'm like, oh boy. Don't get me gifts, it just piles up unless I really need it.

Starting point is 00:54:52 Right, right, right. Like good hairline. I do. Yeah. Oh thanks. I was trying to compliment you. Thank you brother, I appreciate it. Yeah, there you go, you took that.

Starting point is 00:55:00 You guys have great hair too, it's fun to see both of your hair. It's a bird's nest. No, it's great. Yeah, it's not bad. That's what I do. I can't talk about They'll be like, oh, that's whatever. That's flowy, black, thick, thick black head of hair. What's like a peeve for you? What bothers you?

Starting point is 00:55:13 That just people do in general? Yeah. Any peeves. Any peeves at all about anything that bothers me. I got one to buy you some time there. Go, please. All right. How about this one?

Starting point is 00:55:23 The guy who doesn't know the answer to something, he asks you, you don't know either, and then he gets mad. Oh, that's good, I like that. This happened to me today. The guy's like a- What's the example? Well, the guy's like, when does this place open? Or he said something like that, where does it close? And I go, oh, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:55:40 I try to give a little, oh, show, cause I don't wanna be the guy who goes, I don't fucking know, get out of here. So I go like, ah, I don't know I try to give a little show because I don't want to be the guy goes I don't fucking know get out of here so I go like ah I don't know four or five I'm not really sure and he goes thanks a lot I'm like well you didn't know either dick cheese what the fuck I like I guess there's more industry stuff that makes me like if people say like they're like oh what the Ben Schwartz of it all there's sentences that I can't read anymore in emails like the Ben Schwartz of it all or like it means that I can't read anymore in emails. Like the Ben Schwartz of it all.

Starting point is 00:56:06 What does that even mean? It means like, let's say we're talking about Larry Sanders Show, like, yeah, we'll have a meeting about the Larry Sanders Show of it all. And I was like, there's just some sentences where I can't read them anymore. And oftentimes when we have a phone call, if it's a lot of people for business,

Starting point is 00:56:21 like I just want to get to what we're talking about. I was ready, you know what I mean? But like there's so much time that is wasted just like saying hello and catching up. I was like, oh, let's talk about what we need to get to and let's move. But a lot of stuff in email business wise, I can't, I have to like read that part quickly. 100%. This was a recent peeve of mine. In the business type emails, thanks for understanding.

Starting point is 00:56:43 Oh yeah, we'll circle back soon. Also when I don't get a roll, they said they went a different way. I'm so tired of hearing they went a different way but not telling me why. Yes, yes. They love you, but they're going a different way. So they don't love you.

Starting point is 00:56:58 You crushed it, but they're going to hate you. They're an executive, they could give me something. I know. They're such a big fan. There's a couple others. Let's table that. Yes, table that. Let's put a pin in it.

Starting point is 00:57:08 I hate it. Let's unpack this. These are true things that I can't do anymore. Pin, table it. Unpack? You're saying all the ones. Unpack is big. This is like biological father.

Starting point is 00:57:16 This is a fucking. Let's unpack this. I agree, though. So those are the things I'm like, for business-wise sometimes I'm like, I can't do it anymore. I've been doing this for too long where it's like, please don't, I can't, don't do that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:28 I can't do that. You ever heard that Bill Burr thing? He says those, those LA meetings you got to do over the phone, like a general or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes, I throw my phone across the bed while I'm laying on the bed and I cover my eyes and I just wait till it's over. So like unless they ask me a question, I, I'll answer it. But if they don't, I just wait till it's over. So unless they ask me a question, I'll answer it,

Starting point is 00:57:46 but if they don't, I just wait and like wince and then wait till it's over. And I totally understand what you're saying. Do you guys have top comics? What's your favorite comic of all time? Come on, what are we doing? I'm like Cosby's later work. I mean, we love, we praise David Tell no end on this.

Starting point is 00:58:04 Oh yeah, my God. David Tell when I was a kid on Comedy Central was like the biggest thing. And he was a guy that played at the cellar a lot too. I don't know if he still does. He's still there all the time. Every night. But he had a, what was his show on Comedy Central called?

Starting point is 00:58:13 Insomniac. Yeah dude, for a kid that loved comedy, I was obsessed with that show. Me too. And then I remember I went to the Comedy Cellar when I was finally old enough and the first time I ever saw a stand up show that was like me as a kid going to the cellar,

Starting point is 00:58:25 Colin Quinn got fired from SNL that day. Whoa! And he brought the newspaper, I think, that said that he was getting fired and it was like such a crazy burst. Whoa, crazy. Yeah, it was like a, I don't know if he got fired, but I'm assuming he was,

Starting point is 00:58:39 because I think he did a bit about it. That must have been the 90s, right, or early 2000s? Must have been, yeah. But I remember that set and I was like there and he was right there with the newspaper and I was like, oh my God, I love this guy from SNL and his stand up and then that. But David Tell as a kid was one of the funniest things

Starting point is 00:58:53 in the universe. Oh, of course. So cool. 98, wow. There you go. Damn, so who were you, 10? 17, 16, 17. You're going to the cellar at 16, 17?

Starting point is 00:59:04 I guess so. That's fucking awesome, you're a New York kid. Yeah, I grew up in Riverdale. Ah! Riverdale, then went to Westchester, and then I was living in Manhattan when I was doing UCB after college. Hell yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Riverdale. Yes. You're one of those fucking kids that lives up in Riverdale. That's your taxi driver. What, do you have any wrecks otherwise in Larry Sanders? Sometimes we do wrecks on this.

Starting point is 00:59:26 Oh yeah, my favorite comedy shows of all time. Anything, any movies, drama. Oh my God. Songs, Born. Tyler Creator albums, pretty amazing. Oh, I don't know them. The TV shows that usually I say are Larry Sanders, Simpsons I think is probably the most influential

Starting point is 00:59:43 show for me. Love it. I think it taught me how to write. I write a lot of movies and TV shows for places. So many killers in that writer's room. Dude, up and at them. What, incredible. The goggles do nothing. Incredible, UK Office is a top five show for me, I think.

Starting point is 00:59:54 Love it, love it. Have you met Gervais? No, I haven't met him. Have you guys met him? He's met him before. Yeah, we've DM'd a little. Okay, how'd that go? Good, actually, it was very nice and complimentary of my dumb tweets.

Starting point is 01:00:07 I love it. Also, I got a joke on the Globes. From him? I sent him- Oh, I used to, I wrote for the Oscars one year. Oh, really? Yeah, so I used to freelance jokes for Letterman's monologue. Right.

Starting point is 01:00:19 And I used to freelance jokes for SNL Weekend Update. So I was writing jokes a lot when I was younger. And so every now and then I get a job to do that for people. Uh-huh. Yeah. Who'd you write for for the Globes? I wrote for the Oscars. Oh, the Oscars.

Starting point is 01:00:31 I wrote for Hugh Jackman. I wrote his musical opening number. Whoa! Wow! Do you remember that musical opening number? I love it. So it was Dan Harmon, Rob Schraub, and I writing it. Rob Schraub? Yeah, dude, he's fucking a genius.

Starting point is 01:00:42 Dan Harmon must have been fun to write. It was when he was trying to cast Community. So Community of the Valley. Wow! So we wrote this musical, it's gonna be too long. But it won an Emmy, so I won an Emmy for writing for the Oscars. Man, he's a hunk, huh?

Starting point is 01:00:54 He's great. And the full callback is that I did a show, I do two shows in New York every year, and he came to one of my shows at the Beacon as a- Oh! Like I hadn't talked to him in years, and then he came and watched one of the shows the beacon and he was It's like the best venue ever dude. I played I think I played almost every theater theater in New York now nice That's my and that's my favorite one. It's easily. Yeah, I did Radio City, which was fucking enormous

Starting point is 01:01:21 That's too big. I think if for improv imagine four people doing improv on there. Yeah, that's too big, I think. For improv, imagine four people doing improv on there. Yeah, that's crazy. It went great, but I was like, I think we pushed it. I think we pushed it a bit. Something's lost when you lose, the beacon's huge, but it still feels kind of intimate. Beacon feels like you're talking to friends.

Starting point is 01:01:36 You don't need screens, you don't need any of that stuff. That's true. Anyway, it was the recession, so we did a recession musical opening number. You wrote this whole thing? Me, Dan Harmon, Rob Trarial, but Dan really did the, I got like, there's a bit that I wrote, which was probably coming up,

Starting point is 01:01:51 which is he brings Anne Hathaway on stage, and I wrote that whole part of the song. Wow. And then I wrote a bunch of jokes for him to tell as like a monologue. Yeah. And my joke was gonna be the opening of the Oscars, and it was lined up, and then the writing team,

Starting point is 01:02:06 I guess, that wasn't us three, nixed it and put something else there, but I was so excited that I was gonna get jokes on too. Of course. But I started my career by writing jokes for Letterman. That's crazy. Yeah. Remember Frost Nixon?

Starting point is 01:02:17 That was a cool movie. That was good. Oh, that was good. I wrote this whole thing. Oh, that's good. And I did it like UCB where he pulled her up from the crowd and he interacts, like, because at Upright Citizen's Brigade,

Starting point is 01:02:26 me and Hot Sauce would always like do like, we would, before we did a set, we would start a heckle. And I would come out there and we would, they would heckle me and then they would join me on stage and then we'd do an improv show. So it kind of starts where like he pulls her up on stage. Wow. And they kind of like make fun of whatever.

Starting point is 01:02:41 Anyway. How old are you here? This is right, I bet it was, I don't know, 2009? 2009, so I would be. Jesus, you got in the business early. I mean, well, I'm 43, am I older than you guys? You look young, yeah. I'm 41.

Starting point is 01:02:57 Thanks guys, I'm on doing press, so it made me look pretty. But 2009 would be 28. Is that right? That's pretty good to be at this level. Writing on this. This was crazy. The 81st Oscars.

Starting point is 01:03:11 I moved to LA and I got a job to write for his part of the Oscars. And then I got very lucky when I moved to LA. Like a lot of things fell into place. I was in New York, I didn't want to leave New York. My family's here, I'm very close to my family. And I waited till literally the last second. And then I left New York left New York and I came like happy you end up leaving. Yeah, I changed my whole life Yeah, yeah, there was you live in LA now

Starting point is 01:03:31 Yes, but also like I wasn't doing stand-up So the options for me in terms of movement like I wasn't gonna be a writer on SNL didn't look like I wasn't gonna be Writing for Letterman at the time to be on SNL at the time? Oh my God, everybody who does sketch or improv, it's in my head. How did you not get on SNL? I didn't even get an audition. A shoe in. I don't know if I'd be good

Starting point is 01:03:49 because they do like characters and impressions. I don't know if I can do any impressions. Oh, okay. So I was like, I don't know like how, I mean, but writing, I didn't even get to really like give it a shot. Right. So I was like, okay, if I wanna act,

Starting point is 01:04:00 I can go out there and there's an upright citizens brigade out there so I can improvise and people who actually make decisions on TV shows can see me improvise and then I had a lot of short films and that was the way I was gonna show people like. So we just like, I got a job writing for Robot Chicken, that was my first writing job. Hey, we just met Seth Green the other night.

Starting point is 01:04:16 I heard that he was at the roast with Brecken, Brecken's the best. Yeah. But so that's how I started. I started very much as a writer that did improv and slowly got into commercials and slowly got into all the other acting stuff. Wow. Yeah. Man, so that's how I started. I started very much as a writer that did improv and slowly got into commercials and slowly got into all the other acting stuff. Wow!

Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah. Man, what a career, because your resume is bananas. Pull it up. You've been in so much stuff. I mean, yeah, I mean. What do you get recognized from the most? Is it Parks and Rec? Yeah, still Parks and Rec.

Starting point is 01:04:37 Oh, sure. Parks and Rec is number one, I think. And now, Baby Shark's big show. Blizzard Wizard, now it's... That's big money right there. Sonic is a big one too. Of course.

Starting point is 01:04:48 I got to do a scene with Animal and the Muppets. Whoa. Which by the way is so funny, I bet you guys would be the same way is that we just started going and you just know, I just know the rhythm how to make Animal funny because I've watched the Muppets my whole life. So I know exactly what to do to set him up.

Starting point is 01:05:02 So it's so easy. So it's like, I know the cadence to make a Muppet funny because I know the Muppet so well as a kid. Man, so many kids, you learn a lot of kid stuff. There's a lot of voiceover. I love voiceover. Wow, boy, if you can get into voiceover, you are set for life, baby. It doesn't pay very well. Oh, it doesn't? Yeah, voiceover does not pay very well.

Starting point is 01:05:20 I just thought, I guess I go off the Simpsons guys. Those guys are... Oh my God, no. I mean, usually all these jobs that you're looking at are probably sag scale What a lotto ticket to be Hank? Oh my god, and it doesn't exist anymore because now there's not even residuals exactly So it's like even like in the beginning when I did DuckTales We would get a bunch of residuals because they played over and over again Disney But now they give it a Disney Plus, and you don't really get residuals Yeah, they fuck you every way and then that writer strike. I think had on a head like an opposite effect I know yeah modern family. Well that show is underrated

Starting point is 01:05:52 I feel like this is very weird to look at this sorry got a long blue iguana was a Sam Rockwell And I just sold a movie with him. That's gonna be a beast dude. He's the best great. I did He's the fucking best and I wrote a really fun movie for us that were your miss gonna direct you wrote the movie your mother What's your from Lonely Island? Oh? Yeah, I'm gonna direct it and so you it's a what kind of comedy is it they haven't announced it yet Oh, they haven't announced what it is. Oh, yeah, I did the voice of BB8 for force awakens Wow Oh yeah, I did the voice of BB-8 for Forrest Awakens. Wow, BB-8! My man.

Starting point is 01:06:25 And then I think they, I think JJ just found a fucking app on his iPad and that was what he used. Oh wow. It was me, I did lines as BB-8 and then they transformed them into beeps and boops. And then- And you made it on The Simpsons, your dream! That was it, I had three goals when I first started.

Starting point is 01:06:41 One was to be, because I was a pageant letterman, showing people where the bathroom was. So one was to be a guest on Letterman, I did it two weeks before he stopped. Okay. Simpsons to be Boyz II Simpsons, the third one was to host SNL, which I have not. Wow.

Starting point is 01:06:52 That's coming baby. Sonic 6. I did a Letterman thing, but it was on Netflix, like one of those like sit down things, and it was. Wait, you did his interview show? Yeah, it was. That's enormous. Pull it up, it was stand up.

Starting point is 01:07:03 It wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't like the one that. Kardashian. He did one for stand up, so you do a stand up segment and then you'd sit down and talk with him and it was like. I know exactly what you're talking about. You crushed. That's enormous.

Starting point is 01:07:15 There it is, there's good. That was a great moment. This is, do you realize how insane this is? It was insane, I mean that was one of my lines, I was like, you went to, he goes, when do you think you'll know when you made it? I'm like, I'm talking to you, dude. I agree.

Starting point is 01:07:27 And I'm like, where are you gonna be in a couple years? I said, you went from Obama to me, are you gonna be talking to a crackhead? Oh, I love that. And he was like, if I'm talking to anyone, you know? But no, please don't play it. Do you know what this means, though, by the way? This means that he had to have seen you do comedy.

Starting point is 01:07:39 He was very cool. And think you're funny enough, because he would not have you on the show unless he personally thought you were funny. He was so cool. I did a thing during COVID where I just filmed a special on rooftops in New York. Oh, that's great.

Starting point is 01:07:49 So he was like- What's that called? It's called Up on the Roof. Great. But he- Dude, this is crazy. He was crazy. He was crazy cool. And it's funny talking to a guy from that era

Starting point is 01:07:59 because he doesn't understand how we have to make comedy now because he came up in the 70s, 80s when you just wanted to get on TV, but he goes, for standup, we wanted a sitcom. And I was like, yeah, but they don't really do that often. It's impossible. It's not real, that's not real anymore. Because he didn't understand why I put a special out

Starting point is 01:08:16 for free, I was like, well, because we make the bulk of the money touring. Yeah. He didn't, so he was, I think just, you see why he's the best interviewer, because he's so cute. He was, he is the best. I was a page at that place, I watched him do it.

Starting point is 01:08:29 You know, I watched him my whole life. My parents would be lying down their bed like this. I'm like perpendicular to them, you know, and we would all watch Letterman every single night. Wow. It was like such a big deal in our house. And then when I was a page there, and I like hustled my way to get that job.

Starting point is 01:08:43 We didn't know anybody. So it's like, I got so lucky in getting that job. And when I was a page writer, I saw him every night. And then when I started freelancing for the monologue, I would, whenever he ended all of his monologues, he would point to Paul Schaefer and say, ladies and gentlemen, Paul Schaefer from the CBS Orchestra. And that's how you know no more jokes are gonna be said.

Starting point is 01:09:00 And so me as a page, I'm there helping people to the audience. How cute. Oh yeah, I just posted that yesterday because I did Colbert yesterday. Oh, cool. That's me as a page I'm there helping people to the audience. How cute. Oh yeah I just posted that yesterday because I did Colbert yesterday. That's me as a page on the bottom. Wow. So 20 years ago, that's me 20 years ago. That's amazing.

Starting point is 01:09:12 And so then anytime you'd point you know it's over and I know I didn't get a joke on so I started to say like fuck and you could hear it in the show and I started to get yelled at by the audience person being like Ben you can't be on the floor anymore because You're cursing when you don't get your jokes on And I was like I'm so sorry I had no idea you could hear that. That's amazing. Man, you could host you look right in that desk on the top. I love Colbert. He's so smart dude. He's a very talented guy. I love Colbert. I was in college. I was an intern at his Colbert report. Oh my god. Yeah, that's huge. That was a pretty epic experience and you know. What does an intern do for the Colbert Report? Any run they need.

Starting point is 01:09:48 Any like- I bet people were nice there though, no? Yeah, and he was incredible. I was there when he threw water in Richard Branson's face. Oh wow. Because Richard Branson pulled, and you could hear me saying, fuck no. But you could see Richard Branson got mad

Starting point is 01:10:01 during the interview, so he just takes water and throws it in his face. And Colbert, he got water back. He waved over for his producer to bring water and he threw it back in his face. And I was like, this ain't a bit. This is weird. Whoa. Branson didn't know he was joking, I guess?

Starting point is 01:10:17 No, I think he would fuck with people on that show. I mean, that was kind of what was incredible. He was playing a character. Yeah, I mean, he was kind of- Oh, I can't wait to see this. He was kind of messing with, I mean, it might not be online. Whoa, scrubbed. But he was.

Starting point is 01:10:30 Oh, I guess he came on the late night show. No, it's not on his late night show, it's on Colbert report. At least he came back, they rekindled. Yeah. There you go. But it was a tense moment where I was like, that is bad. Damn. Did it air, you think?

Starting point is 01:10:43 It aired. Yeah, I mean, you can't not air that. Right. Takes off his pants. Yeah, I think they scrubbed it. They scrubbed it. What the fuck? It was weird.

Starting point is 01:10:52 That's a good moment. So was he a dude, were you watching like Stranger with Candy and Colbert report? Love Stranger with Candy, love Colbert report, but I think him on Late Show is pretty fucking awesome. God, Richard Branson's throwing water on everybody's face. Ah, that's his thing. Is he your late night host?

Starting point is 01:11:10 Is he your fave? Right now? I love him. I've been lucky enough to do all of them. I did Corden's show 17 times. 17! I did it more than anybody else. That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:11:23 That's crazy. By the way, that's literally, by the the way my goal as someone who's a page on Letterman when they needed someone He would have his people. Yes I was I always want to be that person and they weren't even the most famous people sometimes they were but sometimes weren't and For who was letterman's people for that there was a there's a stand-up that came over every Christmas I forget and he took a football and he hits like a Meatball off the top of the Christmas tree I forget who the people were but he had his people like he looked bill Murray anytime He came on was it was amazing my Howard Stern would come on and be incredible and he would have a bunch of times a year

Starting point is 01:11:54 Tom Hanks was amazing on that show But I always wanted to be like the whatever and then for cord and I slowly became a thing when people dropped and I lived In LA they're like hey, can you come here today and whatever? I'm like, great. And were you ever on with someone where it just didn't vibe at all? Cause they did the two guests, right? Yeah, they do sometimes more than two guests.

Starting point is 01:12:11 It never really, I've been on with so many people that they kind of use me as someone that could, let's say they have guests and like they need someone to like be a little bit funny or liven it up. I think that I've kind of helped with that. Comedic relief. I think a little bit or like to make people feel comfortable, think that I kind of help with that. Comedic relief. I think a little bit, or like to make people feel comfortable, whatever.

Starting point is 01:12:27 Now we did court in, I think once each. I did it twice. Twice. I did standup, I wasn't a guest. That's gotta be terrifying. No, that crowd was juiced. They were the most juiced. Because that lives on forever.

Starting point is 01:12:38 Like, and you're, but can you use those on a special after or no? Yeah, you probably could. You could use them if you want. I don't think I used all of them, but like. I didn't either. But I used some of them and, you probably could. You could use them if you want. I don't think I used all of them. I didn't either. But I used some of them. And you know, he was one of the coolest

Starting point is 01:12:48 in that he would be like, this is not normal what this is, but not everyone does this. Yeah. It's not normal what's about to happen. This guy's doing standup at 5 p.m. Yeah, dude. For a studio crowd, give him everything.

Starting point is 01:12:58 And like, dude, not everyone does that. That goes a long way for a young comic. I love Conan. I'm a huge Conan guy. But he would just be like, your next guest? Yeah. Dude, come on. Wait, so who, is there some show that you always

Starting point is 01:13:10 wanted to get on that like, uh. Conan. Conan was the one. We got on Conan a bunch. We did that a few times. Yeah, because Conan had the coolest, the music guests and the coolest standups. And he seemed fun.

Starting point is 01:13:20 He didn't, like Letterman to me was cool, but he was like this older statesman where Conan felt like a guy I would hang out with. My brother loved Conan so much that it was like that kind of became our guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love Letterman. Yeah, I mean he's amazing. I gotta ask though, you did 17 cordons.

Starting point is 01:13:37 That's what I was getting to. Let's see how many, 13? Did you do Ferguson? Five times I bet. Wow. I bet. I've done every, I did Leno. I've been a guest on Leno I've done every been a

Starting point is 01:13:45 guest on every talk show host that was dick Cavett he was gone I wish him yeah I went on Tom Snyder for three hours Steve Allen yeah me and Steve Allen really go back I kind of miss I feel like I love late night like I love late I love the crowd I love the showbiz of it all. That's not normal anymore, I feel. Podcasting's great, but I miss, I turn it on so much harder when there's a crowd there, and I do miss that.

Starting point is 01:14:13 Like even doing a live podcast when there's a crowd. Oh, I bet it crushes, I bet you guys go crazy. You guys are drawn to crowds, that's what you know. It's better. You want the laugh, you want the big laugh in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did one with Julia Roberts, which is really cool. Every now and then you're like sitting next to someone. That's better. You want the laugh, you want the big laugh in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did one with Julia Roberts, which is really cool. Every now and then you're sitting next to someone.

Starting point is 01:14:28 That's bananas. 13, 13 episodes. That's amazing though. What a TV. Yeah, how was Julia Roberts? That's $13,000. Amazing, amazing. They take a picture of you before you go on,

Starting point is 01:14:39 and they take a picture of you, and she snuck into my picture, and I kept it, I have it in my fricking, you know, I have a wall of all these things. No, I never show anybody that. Well, it's funny, we were just talking about this the other day, if we photobomb a photo, people will stab us, but if Julia Roberts does,

Starting point is 01:14:54 it's like a huge win. I literally have kept it my whole life in the same place. You have to be famous to pull that move. It was so cool, I can't believe I have it. Damn, how's she looking, person? Gorgeous. I bet. Incredible. She's amazing, how's she looking person? Gorgeous. I bet. Incredible.

Starting point is 01:15:06 She's amazing, Hachi Maci. Hot. Is there anyone that you've wanted to meet that you haven't met yet? Oh, like directors, I wanna work with a lot of directors. Who's your top? I'd love to work with Steven Spielberg. We were just talking about how easy,

Starting point is 01:15:19 what did we say, maybe top three ever? I, gotta be. Easily. I did a movie with Zemeckis who did Back to the Future. Back to the Future's my favorite movie of all time. Come on! Yeah. What are your favorite movies?

Starting point is 01:15:30 It's the power of love. Never heard of it. Is that from the movie? Yeah, it's Huey Lewis. Oh, okay. And the news are just him. I think the news as well. Okay.

Starting point is 01:15:38 Yeah. What are your favorite movies? Well, we gotta wrap this up, but yeah, throw something out there. Two Girls, One Cuff. I'm a fucking annoying, I love film noir so much that I'll throw like 1940s movies. Oh my God.

Starting point is 01:15:48 So like Out of the Past. You're begging to go on Letterboxd. You're fucking mistaken. Well I love, those are like my two, Double Indemnity and Out of the Past. Oh, Double Indemnity's amazing. It's just the most perfect script ever. It's an incredible film.

Starting point is 01:15:59 But then like, Guilty Pleas, Back to School makes me laugh. Ah, sure. Rodney Dangerfield's a great. Of course. I love, fuck man, there's so many. If Fargo's on TV, I'm always watching Fargo. Yeah, it's another, any co-in is great. Yeah, what are you saying?

Starting point is 01:16:13 Well, I like Cool Hand Luke, I love that movie, I love Groundhog Day. Oh, that's a perfect comedy. Deep, you know, something to do. Dumb and Dumber is awesome. Dumb and Dumber is a top five movie of all time for me. It's perfect. I think it's a tough role man. It's great Yeah, there's so many yeah any any like badass throwback if I'm Michael Mann movies on TV to it's like Oh, yeah, it's impossible not I find myself watching older movies now

Starting point is 01:16:37 I don't know if it's to connect with me being a kid But like I love watching older movies now more than I love watching like we'll give us a couple more Stuff that I love my top five now more than I love watching newer films. Give us a couple more. Stuff that I love, my top five is probably, I mean listen. Ferris Bueller's up there too. Ferris Bueller's amazing. Oh yeah, I'm going on tour again. Back to the Future, probably Dumb and Dumber, Shawshank.

Starting point is 01:16:56 I'd put an animated movie in there, so probably Aladdin. Oh, great movie. Yeah, great movie. Robin Williams is amazing in that. And then there's a hundred other ones. Jurassic Park is probably there. Oh, yeah There's some big is probably up there big There's so many good

Starting point is 01:17:10 Sonic is out right now. I don't know this coming up, but it come it's literally this this moment I just went to the first screening that the public could see and we just surprised people. It was great. It's great It's I'm so happy with it and the it's in theaters, which is nice. I love a theater movie Yeah, keep the theaters a lot. It is in theaters. The hope is that if enough people see it, we keep getting to make them. But this is like, imagine for like two years

Starting point is 01:17:31 you're waiting for this movie or a year, and today is the day it was out. And we went to the first screening that fans went to today at 3 p.m., right before we came here. And we got to like surprise, it was awesome. I saw Ghostbusters, the new one with Paul Rudd, with Ronnie Chang in Lincoln Center. It was so fun.

Starting point is 01:17:48 So cool. Yeah. So cool. What is it, the release day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the premiere. Premier, that's the word. It's so fun to still go to the theater, man. So yeah, support this movie so they can keep making more.

Starting point is 01:18:00 Check it out. Oh yeah, my tour. Hey, that's a peeve when people say support. Go see the movie, enjoy it. Go see the movie. Support, he's not fucking homeless when that's a people people say support go see the movie Or he's not fucking homeless. He's crushing. He's We have a great time and then my tour starts in January in Milwaukee alone It's Ben Schwartz and friends. So it's me doing improv got it So we'll do improv but we're playing we're playing more casinos than we've ever played

Starting point is 01:18:20 Whoa a casino a bunch of them. We did a couple now. We're like, well, I guess we'll just do a couple more But we're playing the beacon again for New Yorkers in April. Hell yeah. And then we're going, I'm doing Sydney Opera House in May. Nice. Oh that's legendary. That's a beauty. It'll be great, yeah.

Starting point is 01:18:34 There's like all these venues that I always want to play and that's the last ones. It's one of the most beautiful, I mean just on the water. I know, it's crazy. And also, you guys know, when we, like I played Royal Albert Hall this year, you won't get paid a ton of money to do these venues

Starting point is 01:18:47 because it's so expensive. Yes. Radio City Music Hall, 6,000 people. You don't get paid as, like it's, you don't get paid more. No. It's like, because it costs- But there's really no one you can complain to about it.

Starting point is 01:18:57 And also it's like, I don't even care. Yeah. I know. I just wanna say that I played, I wanna be in that theater, I wanna say that I was on the same stage as Blank. Right. And it doesn't even matter. Like we have our other shows that we can make a little bit of money, but wanna be in that theater, I wanna say that I was on the same stage as Blank, and it doesn't even matter. We have our other shows that we can make a little bit of money, but there are some that you're like,

Starting point is 01:19:08 man, so Sydney Opera House was one of those, and Royal Aberfall, Radio City was one of those. If you do two, you make some money. Yeah, I bet that's how it works. Oh, you're going all over, yeah, you gotta go all over. Oh, Vets is a great one. We sold out Sydney Opera House, so we did a state theater show right before it.

Starting point is 01:19:20 Hell yeah, wow. And then we're gonna go to Melrose, but this is great. You guys ever been to Paramount Theater in Seattle? Yes. One of my favorite venues to perform comedy. Great room, Dick. It's nice. And Prince used to play there,

Starting point is 01:19:29 or Prince has played there. Woo, I didn't know that. I like sometimes looking through and seeing what other people have played. This is exciting. All right, what's the website called? It's rejectedjokes.com because when I started to freelance jokes for Letterman,

Starting point is 01:19:41 I used to take all the ones that he rejected and I would perform them to zero people, and then I put those videos on the internet and that's how I started. Whoa jokes for Letterman. I used to take all the ones that he rejected and I would perform them to zero people and then I put those videos on the internet and that's how I started. Whoa! That's smart. Crazy. And because there's a low bar already.

Starting point is 01:19:51 And nobody's in the audience so they all bomb and then I just release them and that's like how I. Wow. I haven't updated this in a long time. Anyway, that's right, you don't have to look at any of this anymore. Check out rejectedjokes.com folks for the tour dates. Go see Ben on tour tour check out Sonic 3 yes

Starting point is 01:20:06 And now you're thanks for joining us. Thanks guys. How fun bring bodega cat whiskey by the way is that yours? That's all You have your own whiskey. Oh, yeah, give you a bottle you have that happen Do you like go to where they make it the long story long process we make it in a bathtub and then we ship it Out God how exciting I can't believe you guys make the labels for this and everything. Oh, well we had a lot of help. We don't know what the hell we're doing,

Starting point is 01:20:29 but we're getting there. We're in all these comedy clubs now and it's online. It's building for sure. How cool is that? Very cool. Are you happy you're doing it? Yeah, we're trying to retire on this beauty. Where are you gonna be?

Starting point is 01:20:41 We'll let him leave. Oh, okay. I'll hear it, where are you gonna be? I'll hear it. All right, gonna be? I'll hear it. All right, get it up, what do you got? Oh, I got San Antonio, January 3rd and 4th. I'm doing clubs to warm up for this tour. San Antonio, 3rd and 4th.

Starting point is 01:20:55 I got Liberty, Township, Ohio the following weekend. Pittsburgh Improv, the 23rd through 25th. And then it's just all theaters. Charlotte, Richmond. Philly's so fun to play Bethlehem Yeah, Austin is ooh dude that Paramount theater is really fun to Tulsa Austin Dallas Houston, New Orleans Memphis Memphis We're moving slowly guys come the fuck out Knoxville Atlanta great one. I played the tabernacle. It's great Birmingham Durham such a fun city

Starting point is 01:21:21 Haven probably we're playing the same one. I'm playing that Vets too. In Providence. It's a good room. Oh I'm pumped. Yeah I heard it's great. Portsmouth, we added one there so come check it out. Portland, Maine. Burlington. Oh you like food? Are you a food person? Fuck yeah. I'll give you wrecks for a bunch of these cities. Please. Hell yeah. Montreal, Buffalo, and that's, and more and more, but that's Albany. Punchup.live slash Samaral or just samaral.com all these so many I'm going the West Coast to see you'll see if you don't are you trying out to in here city yeah my wife's eight months pregnant oh taking a break after January congrats

Starting point is 01:21:54 thank you sir how cool not mine Houston Texas all right Phoenix Dallas and then I'm gonna take a break and then we're back in Nashville at the Ryman and then dude that venue's the best I'm excited and then Asheville doing a makeup day because of that cunt. Elaine ruined the city So I'll be back in April look sold out you are go up look how exciting this is does it say sold out all So you don't have to think about this at all now We pump out the jokes come on by the joke when this at all. No, we pump out the jokes, so come on by. We pump out the jokes. I don't know when this comes out. Oh shit, all right, well yeah, happy New Year,

Starting point is 01:22:29 happy holidays, happy Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah, everybody. Do it up, have a great, we'll see you before the New Year, but thanks for listening, guys. Support, I'm gonna say it again, I'm an idiot. Go see Ben's movie and go see him on the road. Thanks, guys. Comedy. Up on the roof like a cop's comin' And Naked Samuel is feelin' dangerous I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans This woman doesn't look like I remember her

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We Might Be Drunk - Ep 212: Ben Schwartz - Sonic The Hedgehog 3

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