Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 60- An American Werewolf in London (1981)

Episode Date: December 14, 2015

This week we're joined by our friend Jeanne to discuss her pick, the 1981 John Landis werewolf classic "An American Werewolf in London." Special topics for your consideration include: the benefits of... multiple shower heads, inappropriate behavior as a nurse, the wiggly flap, what Debbie Kline is up to now, werewolf mythology and being a sorrow predator.  Have you seen this movie? Where does it stand in your personal werewolf film rankings? Let us know at facebook.com/werewolfambulance, on Instagram @werewolfambulance or on Twitter @werebulance. We love to hear from you. Also, go check out Jeanne's work at www.jeannemdangelo.com and don't forget about the Parcel of Terror at Cryptocurium! Get more information and sign up for yourself or a friend at www.cryptocurium.com Werewolf Ambulance is a horror movie comedy podcast. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to another episode of WhereWulf Ambulance. I'm Alan and I'm here with my friend Katie. Hello Katie. Hi Alan, how are you? Good. How are you doing? Real good. And we are here joined by our friend Gene. Hello Gene. Hi Alan, what's here with my to thu much what's up with you? How. Hi, Alan. What's up? Not too much. What's up with you? What's up with you? So, bro? I'm going to the podcast, Gene.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Gene has brought us American and American werewolf in London. I always forget the Anne when I talk about this movie. I like that. I like that there could be more than one, and this is just that one, you know. I like the specificity of it. We will be doing spoilers during this episode, as we do in every single episode that we do. What prompted you to bring this movie? I really love creature features. I really love werewolves.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I love practical effects, and this movie is really famous for its practical effects. And also it's just a pretty solid fun fun movie that I was hoping you'd both enjoy. I don't know. I'm pretty sure Alan likes it. I don't know about Katie. Everyone says that because I don't like anything. I'm sorry. Well, I'm starting to get, I'm starting to get a sense of what you like. Are you, because if you could explain thi.
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Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. I like all things from 1981. It's age to the specific, wonderful age that I am aged. So that's basically, I think it's like, I love werewolf movies, but they're not always great. And I think there's like one of the most well-realized werewolf movies that's ever been done. Oh for sure. Yeah. Let me consult a tome here real quick. Oh wow, look at that. This is the John Landis' Monsters in the Movies.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Guess what? That's in the corner of my bedroom right now. I was looking at it last night. You read the werewolf chapter last night? I did. Yeah. So about an American werewolf in London, John Landis says, This was my attempt to make a movie dealing with the supernatural in a completely realistic way. Because there is no such thing as men who become monstrous wolves when there is a full moon.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I tried to explore how one would react when confronted with this as truth. What do you do when the unreal is real? That was my premise, and an American wearable in London is the result. I think that's pretty well realized, yeah. There's a lot of pretty good making of features and stuff you can watch. And I was watching one of the really short ones that was made around the time that he made the movie, where he kind of said the same thing. And it's kind of why it has the atmosphere it does, why the characters are sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:02 just like, whycracking and stuff. Because he imagined if he thought, if this was happening to him, that he would be like, well, this is bullshit, and he would just be kind of trying to laugh it off, because he'd be like, oh, I'm just crazy. I'm just crazy, this is just bullshit. And he would see his like, if this was happening, and he'd be like, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.... th. th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. this, this. this, this. this. this. this, well, this. this. this. this. this. this, well, this, this, this, this, this, this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. really be reacting to it the way someone who thought it could really be happening would. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I mean, the werewolf doesn't realize or understand or believe that he's a werewolf until there's like 10 minutes left in the movie. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 There's a thing called clinical lycanthropy, which is like, it's a real thing, and it just describes a certain kind of psychosis where you think you're a werewolf. You're not a werewolf. So I guess kind of the idea of this movie is that like up to a point he could just be experiencing that and like he's having these dreams or he is a werewolf and he probably only really thinks that's what's happening and that's what the nurse and the doctor are probably thinne they're seeing. But then at some point the the the the the th they're seeing, but then at some point it turns out he is actually a werewolf. That's got to be a bummer of a realization. It seemed to be. Well we'll get to the end, but yeah. No it all works out. It's fun. Yep. Everybody lives
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Starting point is 00:04:50 I don't think I remember right now, but he's kind of an actor that we saw again come up a lot in like the 90s and early ops and stuff. You know, they're kind of getting out that like sort of insular rural culture versus like an urban culture, you know, and they all have this like terrible secret. They have a werewolf infestation and they probably don't, they don't think that anyone, you know, from the city would take what they were saying seriously or would think they were kind of like superstitious and backwards so they can't tell people what's happening, and they're very, you know, secretive and unfriendly. Yeah, and they seemed to have to have to have to have to have to have to have their their their their their their their their their their their their they they seem their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their very, you know, secretive and unfriendly. Yeah, and they seem to have some sort of dissonance about it too, where they send these kids out into the rain in the dark on the moors, knowing there's a wheralf out there,
Starting point is 00:05:32 and then they're like, that was murder. Yeah, yeah, it kind of was. Although they were. Well I would think about that too because it's like if you don't want to tell people there's a werewolf and you don't want to sound crazy you could at least say there's a we have a serial killer or something that will keep them inside but wouldn't make you look crazy. Right. You know but no one ever does that in horror movies. They're like always they either tell you their they they they the the the they either the the the they either the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the the. the literal the literal the literal. the literal. the literal. the the the the the the literal the the the literal the the the literal the the the the literal the literal the literal the literal the the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal the literal. the literal. the literal. the literal. the literal. the literal crazy. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. truth. tru. truth. tru. the literal crazy. the literal crazy. their the literal crazy. their the literal crazy. the. the. the. theuth that no one would ever believe or just nothing. It's like a vague, you know, warning. Leave you to your doom. You're aware of a moon?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, how can you do that? Yeah. That's a really good question. It's a very good question. Don't look up. I do what to say at the very beginning, the landscape shots. I was like, oh, I want to go. I want to go wherever that is. What is that, Scotland? I want to go to Scotland. I'll go see that. I'll go look at some cold stuff for a while.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It was really beautiful. Beautiful cold stuff. And also, who calls their pub the slaughtered lamb? I love that. People in a werewolf problem for them. And then I think about it, I'm like, they must have known their current werewolf must be someone they know. Oh, of course. Who knows how long he's been doing this? He's probably not the first one. Maybe they're all slowly becoming werewolves. Yeah, because even after they shoot that one, and then later the doctor goes back to the slaughtered lamb. They're still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the that they think that David is still a threat to them. It seems like they still think there's another werewolf out there. Right. I don't know. Yeah, or the, I think they have tons. What was that? I bet they have tons. This has definitely been going on for a long time. Yeah. T this is definitely been going. T. This. This is th. This is. This is. This is. This is definitely. This is. This is. This is definitely. This is. This is. This is. This is definitely. This is. This is. This is definitely. This is definitely. This is. This is definitely. This is. This is definitely. This is definitely. This is. This is definitely. This is definitely. This is definitely. This is. This is definitely. This is. This is. This is definitely. This is definitely. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is definitely. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This is. This is. th. th. This is. th. This is. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the. We've learned to live with it, you know? Yeah. Just like watch out for Pete.
Starting point is 00:07:26 In the moon. All moon. Do you think it would be fun to live in a town and festive with werewolves? No. OK. Jean? Am I a were werewolf?
Starting point is 00:07:37 That's your call. I mean, I know how to stay indoors. I know how to stay off the Moors. I think I'd be fine. So pro at staying indoors. Yeah. Guys, I have to tell you I've nailed being indoors. Yeah. I'm really good. I constantly beware them in.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So they walk off the road, these two guys who look immediately. Look largely the same. I don't mean to say that all white people look the same, but I feel that they do. I always thought I got David Noughton mixed up with the guy in Grimmons. For years I know Billy and Billy. Billy from Waxwork. I know David Noughton because one of my favorite movies when I was a movie was a movie was a movie called Midnight Madness, which is Michael J Foxx's first film. And it's just there, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a they. It's a J. Fox's first film. Wow. And it's just there, it's like a,
Starting point is 00:08:27 it's a scavenger hunt movie. And no one knows it because I'm 117 years old. It was a talkie. But that's how I know and recognize David Knot. He's great in this. I loved him. Yeah. Yeah. He's really fantastic. Although he does do a really terrible thing, which is when, it it it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It. It. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the th. the the th. the the th. the thi. the th. thi. th. th. th. I loved him. Yeah. He's really fantastic. Although he does do a really terrible thing, which is when his friend gets attacked, he just turns and runs.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And then he's like, oh, hold on, like goes back for him. I don't know. I sort of appreciate that though. Yeah, I think that would be my reaction. Everyone thinks they'd be better, but probably a to to to to to to to to to to to to be a to be a to be. Remind me not to get attacked by a werewolf with you people. I'd like to think that I would step in front of the werewolf. But I'm probably going to run. But I mean, me running from a werewolf is the werewolf.
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Starting point is 00:10:08 Like Frank Oz's character. Who was Frank Oz? Who was Frank Oz? He was the American puppets? He was the Fawz bitter. Yeah, he was like, I was And then he appears later as Miss Piggy. He has two credits in this movie. He gets credited as Miss Piggy too. Oz. He's so ineffective because he just comes in and screams at a guy who just like survived a horrible trauma and then
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Starting point is 00:12:10 And the people at the bar are hearing howling. It's very interesting. That they're not cool with. It's like the only person who cares is the woman who's tending bar. I guess, but then those guys come out with a gun and they do shoot it. Like, why didn't they just come? I don't know. It doesn't, I don't understand their motives. Why didn't they just either not send them out into the night or not go?
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Starting point is 00:13:11 theater scene is like the best example of that because they're really disturbing sad and like horrific stuff having in the same time as something super funny. That porn is the funniest one I've ever seen. Yeah. That porn is part of some sort of running joke he had, where he would use, see you next Wednesday title, which I assume is that references to you next Tuesday. Yeah, yeah. And he was, apparently he would like kind of drop that in all his movies. And there's a lot of scenes in this where you see like posters for it in the
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Starting point is 00:15:26 I don't actually super duper like the howling were wolves. I think they're cool. And they're like at the time they were really cool, like it wasn't a wolf man. Yeah. But I don't think they're big ears. Yeah, they're rabbit ears. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The rabbit. The rabbit. Yeah. The rabbit. Yeah. The rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. The rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The rabbit. They're the rabbit. They're the rabbit. They're the rabbit. They're the rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. The rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're the rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. They're the rabbit. They're the rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. They're the rabbit. I the the the the the they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the they're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the like that they did the quadrupedal werewolf for Amware. Amware. Amware on Where am? Later we will get to the scene that creeps me out the absolute most and the quadrupedal thing is crucial in it. But yeah, I was just watching the transformation and I was like, man, the howling translation is really fun.
Starting point is 00:16:01 This one is fucking disgusting and creepy. And it also doesn't take 10 minutes like the howling one did if I recall correctly. Wait, wasn't it three minutes and then you listed everything you could do in this? Oh I think so. This was real and I didn't even time this one because I was like this. Look at thrown. It's like that. Oh, look at that. It's crazy. Although I do I did laugh I did th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that. I did laugh I did laugh I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I did laugh. I th. I did laugh. I th. I did laugh. I th. I did laugh. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. thi. the. thi. thi. the. th just just like that. I actually really like that. Yeah they both could attack Jack is dead. I was worried I was gonna have trouble telling them apart and then I was like I guess I don't have to. No. Because when Jack shows back up you know he's a G. I. Joe. Jack's dead and David played by David Notton, good casting, wakes up in a hospital, and we learn it's three weeks later. But all he has is cuts and bruises, according to the doctor, so why has he been unconscious
Starting point is 00:16:49 for three weeks? Is anyone concerned about this? Nope. Nope. It was enough time for the nurse to fall in love with him. And look at his dick. Yeah, they look at his dick because I did the nurse checked out his junk this is a fear of mine there's a lot of very unprofessional professionals in this movie looked at his peeper sad face
Starting point is 00:17:14 looked at his peeper sad face yeah man why would don't do that yeah I'm so glad that when I got my insect to be I was knocked out before anyone saw the business so I have no idea that did I got my insectibee, I was knocked out before anyone saw their business. So I have no idea that happened. They didn't even make you take your pants off first? I did it. In the alone times I did that. No, there was no one there. They didn't check to make sure my pants were off. I see.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It seems like something they'd want that's already in love with them. Did you recognize the nurse? Oh, the foster mom from Child's Play 2? Oh, shit! Wasn't she like French in that or something? She was, oh, she was barren and it was really sad. Yeah. Yeah. She dies a great death though at the sewing machine. Sorry, spoilers for Child's to play too. Wow, yeah. So yeah, Jenny, a gutter, a gooter? I think it's Aguita.
Starting point is 00:18:07 There you go. Just from watching behind the scenes things. Oh, nice. I think that's right. But he wakes up, they tell him that his friend is dead. Yeah. Frank Oz shows up and hassles him, and then like, storms off, and you never see him again.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, they're like, just really ineffective. Trying to give him a sedative and he's leaning over and like yelling at his face. Like, how much the doctor? I'm like, the today. I get the impression that John Land, it's, it just, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. I love the cops. And the old like gruff guy and then the like clumsy guy with the fucked up tie? I feel like that's me in most situations. They also accomplish nothing. No.
Starting point is 00:18:55 You know, they kind of show up and they do a little slapstick and it's great. They don't solve the where off problem. Yeah, the embassy guy doesn't help. No. I feel like the useless bumbling cop is a long tradition in horror films. Yeah. I was thinking you have Don Look Now with like the just useless cops in that movie. They're like, I don't know. You solve it. Yeah. Go out and figure this out and report back later. Can ask a question about the pediatric unit? He seems to be adjacent to it.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Which happens also in Don't Mount. Pediatric unit. Must be a European thing. That's where the werewolf word is. So David starts having terrible nightmares. And this, when I saw this as a kid, these are the things that stuck out the most to me. Yeah, specifically the Nazi. The Nazi werewolves. Yeah. They come in and fucking destroy his family.
Starting point is 00:19:47 While they're watching them up a show. What the fuck? They shoot their menorah. Do they? There's a menor in the corner and they just blast it with a machine. Yeah. They were real focused on trashing that house. Yeah, fucking Nazi were w werewolves, man. They're not a good time. No.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, Landis talks about that a little and behind the scenes things. And basically just that he, you know, he saw that character, that character is his age. He's also Jewish. And he was like, I grew up, I was trying to think of like if someone was really, the worst thing. It would be like their family where they're safe and like a Jewish kid my age would have grown up hearing stories about Nazis, so Nazi were wolves. Fuck off. I mean, it kind of doesn't make sense, but then it kind of does, you know? It's so like the throat slitting in that is so what? Yeah, it's a really upset. I love the fake out too. What the thrown. It's thrown. It's, the the th. It's, the their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, their. It's. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their. It's, their they. It's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. It's. What do you mean? It was all a dream. Oh no, the dream's still happening. Yeah, he wakes up. And she's like, don't worry if just the thing, and she goes to open the window and there's another Nazi werewolf there and slits her throne. I think I've been afraid of Nazi were wherwolf.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I thinks I shitty band called Nazi werewolf. To the internet, no, I'm not gonna. No, they don't. There is, to be like, historical for a minute. Because I looked this up today. Because I was like, there is a lot of weird, like, wolf, Nazi wolf things, but there was something called Operation Werewolf that was supposed to be, it, it, it, to be, to be, the, to be like a guerrilla group that would move in past the Allied forces and just fuck shit up, like as they were moving through Germany. But it turned out to mostly kind of be like a propaganda thing as they were on, you know,
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Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. It'd be so big and angry. You know what gorilla, I'm me. Oh, oh, gotcha. Are you sure you don't mean we're wolves too? Because like half the people in this movie say we're wolves, which I really appreciate. I know. Well, my friend of me of some mystery science cedar movie they watch.
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Starting point is 00:22:59 So the nurse just takes him home with her. Yeah, well we meet Jack for the first time while he's still in the hospital. Right, he just comes in and says, can I have some toast? Yeah, which I really like. Starts dipping in the egg. Yeah. Delicious. He looks disgusting. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:12 It's so good. Just like shredded and ribbon. When he talks his neck flaps wiggle, which I really like. The flap is so good. I wrote down the Wiggly flap in my note. Now I have a new band name. Hi, where the Wiggly flap? Something I really like, like I always think about and notice in movies is when there's an unseen character that gets named by name a lot. And in this movie, it's Debbie Klein. Debbie Klein, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 The girl that he wants to go, I think, to Paris to see. Yeah. And he mentions her coming to his funeral and like, you know, just thinking about how the rest of her wild European vacation was, what she got up to and like, I don't think if he showed up in Paris, she'd be like, oh fuck, this guy followed me here, you know? Do you think she cut her trip short to go to his funeral? I guess it's been three weeks. I don't know. Yeah, I guess you guys want to write fanfic about Debbie Kline's true. I do. It's like the Rosencrantz Gildenstein, the dead thapkianianianianianianianianianianianian's thian's thian's thian's thian's thian's thian's thian's thian's thian, I thian, I thin, I thi thi-in, I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi uffer. I need, yeah, I need, I just need to know what she's doing in between.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Just wandering the wastelands, wondering who she is. Sleeping with Michael someone, yeah. Can you believe it? Well, I mean, Jack was kind of a creep about the whole having sex with her, let's be honest. Yeah. One of the first notes I have is, I want to see the, dude. Because she clearly is not into it. No. One of the first notes I have is I want to see June noon, the Hindu rip-off of this movie. What? There's a Hindu...
Starting point is 00:24:53 Go on. You know, on Wikipedia. Yeah, I saw it on Wikipedia. I got excited about it, but then I thought it was actually American Werewolf in Paris. Oh, I says American Weirwolf in London, I thought. Oh, I thought it said in Paris, because I'm in these, orange. I sort of remember that coming out and hearing that it was garbage. I never saw it.
Starting point is 00:25:15 But then somehow conflating that with this movie, so I always thought that this movie was not good either. Oh, really? Yes, this is the person the first the first the first the first the first the first the first time I'd seen it, yeah. Yeah, Junoon is a 1992 film based on America Werewolf in London. Huh. Because Paris wouldn't have been out for five years. Oh no, I want to see that then. Look at this cover art for June. Yeah. She's a tiger man. yelling at you. What? Why is he yelling? That bored looking woman. Oh, yeah. Wow. I'm gonna watch the shit out of that movie. Yeah. All right, so then, post meeting with Jack and Jack telling him that he needs to kill himself
Starting point is 00:25:50 because he's a werewolf. And the line needs to be severed. Yeah, it's so sad to have your dead Fred come back and tell you that you need to die. But also, like, it makes sense that your first thing would be like, oh, I a ghost walking dead or is he actually legit losing his mind? I mean, or is he a werewolf and he sort of subconsciously knows, like later on when he sees the victims that he's killed. He doesn't remember that because he did that when he was in his were wolf formed. Does he subconsciously kind of remember it? Like is this his subconscious awareness of the fact that he's a warewolf and him kind of th thinking like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like th like like th like like th like th like that th like th. that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He th. th. th. he he he he he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi the the thi th Like, is this his subconscious awareness of the fact that he's a werewolf and him kind of thinking, like, I need to do something about this before I hurt someone and then later like, oh, I hurt people, I need to do something about this? Yeah. Yeah, that hadn't occurred to me. I just assumed that they were sort of like spirits in the limbo because they can't go they can't read until he dies basically. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah, but just the idea of your dead friend telling you need to kill yourself is a real big bummer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sad is not very sympathetically either. No, no, just being like, listen. I don't know why you don't understand this. Yeah. Well if you're the dead friend. I don't think there. the the. Yeah, you could. Yeah, you, you, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I the the the the the th. Yeah, I the the the the the the th. Yeah. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I the idea. Yeah, I the idea. Yeah, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the idea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the the the th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. te. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the don't understand this. Like, yeah. Well, if you're the dead friend, I don't think there's any way to sugarcoat that. You could, you could, yeah, I guess. And plus, what we saw of Jack earlier when he was discussing his sexual desires, he was not a man who minced words. He was a grosso.
Starting point is 00:27:18 He also brought the smallest backpack for this very long trip. I don't know what he had in there, but it was not much. Just pro-fos. He had one thing on his mind. So yeah, so the nurse takes him home. Just, yeah. Childplay two foster mom takes him home. I guess she's just real into taking people in. There's something wrong with her. Yeah, because she you know, every, every so often. I think when I first watched this when I was younger, I was like, that's so unwise this man could be dangerous, but now that I'm an adult, I'm like, oh, she's a predator, she's creepy. This guy she thinks is like mentally unwell who just survived a trauma, she's going to bring him home to fuck him.
Starting point is 00:28:00 She keeps, there's like two instances where she specifically says like, I find you very sad and attractive. I'm like, oh, that she has a bone for like his sorrow and his mental illness. I wholeheartedly agree. Yeah. I just kept thinking like, this is so unprofessional. And then the way she behaves with her boss is completely unprofessional too. She's like, oh yeah I took up home and I fucked him like yeah. No you did it! You know that's your no! Well you know he's just like we've got bigger problems. He already had to correct that nurse for talking about
Starting point is 00:28:35 his dick like maybe everything you know about like British hospitals from like 70s like double entendre sitcoms is true and this is just how they are. This is just single entendre? Yeah. It's just I looked at his dick. Did you? Because I did. Which I guess this nurse also looks at when they are suddenly showering together. Oh yeah. It's always a better idea in a movie than it is in real life I I feel, to shower with another person. It's terrible. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You're going to have a second showerhead. Who has a second showerhead? Booya! You have a second showerhead? What America do you live in? The ones downstairs in the bathroom. That's awesome. Guys, together 49.95 and now we're in the one percent.
Starting point is 00:29:29 That's great. Yeah, anyway. Then he sits on her couch nude, which is so rude. Well, he's having a break down. He just saw his dead friend again who looks awesomer. Yeah, that's when he's a G.J. Joe. And she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just like, just like, just, just like, just like, just like, th, th. th. th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. That, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just like, just like, just, just like, just like, just like, just like, just like, just, just like, just, just like, just like, just, just like, just, just like, just looks awesomer. Yeah, that's when he's a G.I. Joe. And she's like, she's like, just come back to bed. Like, this guy you brought home from the hospital that you think is having a breakdown is sitting naked on your couch in the middle of the night and you're like, let's just go to sleep
Starting point is 00:29:56 he's extra sad, which means she's extra attracted. The kissing was so weird. I think it's when you see a movie, when you watch a movie and you see two actors just like mash their teeth together, I'm just like, surely you've kissed another human being in real life and you know that like this isn't right. Yeah. It's got to be the most awkward thing, right? But you've practiced this. You've been in stage performances or other movies or something, television, you've kissed another person in the context of like not actually being passionate or something. And also even if you didn't, you wouldn't just be like, gong, go, gong, gna, gna, and they're just like, she keeps rubbing her teeth on his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah, what is that? What is that? I figured that was like, okay, we're going to have like 30 seconds of boobs in this, but not now, so just hold him as close to you so we can't see anything. She's like, should I just, should I just rub my teeth on his collarbone for a little bit? This is a movie that I feel like the scene really drove home a point that I thought when I was a child, that sex was just like hugging someone and rolling over back and forth. What? Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Just rubbing your teeth on their shoulder. What do you get? No, no, no, no, no, it's okay, Alan, you'll understand when you're older. There's a, so a weird piece of nudity trivia, I read on IMDB related to this. I like it, I like it. related to this, was that in the transformation scene, they had to make sure they didn't show David Norton's dick because he is not circumcised and they had already established that he was in the movie. So it's a continuity issue more than any one. I'm sorry, I think it's a cock tenuity issue. Oh, so that probably would have come up.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Oh, I just got fired. Yeah, for sure. Oh, man. I'm going to start Weirwolf ambulance. So the sex scene's weird. We could all agree to them. Super weird. And even when they get into bed, it's weird. It's weird because it almost feels like she's supposed to be taking care of him and he's falling apart and she's, ah, I just, she's a predator. Yeah, but she's, but, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th supposed to be taking care of him and he's falling apart and she's, ah, just, she's a predator. That kind of sadness just is like, I just want to fuck that sadness. Yeah. No, maybe that's a British thing I don't know. He's nude for a lot of this movie. Yeah, he's running through the woods at one point. At the zoo. The naked American. Sweet buff. Yeah, it looks great. So can we talk about Jack's second appearance? The GI Joe?
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, yeah. Why do you think it looks like a G.I. Because he's just suddenly green. He's just suddenly like army green. I mean, it looks great. Don't get me wrong. I think it actually looks looks a thually looks a thually looks a thually looks a thually thriller zombies. Yeah. Which makes sense. I think maybe that's like Rick Baker's zombie, like his go-to zombie style, like very leathery. It's like sculpted a lot of really nice like wrinkles in it and stuff. And really making the eyes kind of like shiny. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:35:27 Ugh. A big pile of meat. Sexy meat. We'll agree to agree. So, David goes on a rampage. He turns it to a werewolf. Transformation is amazing. His hand. His hand. You can feel your hands breaking, watching his hands do that.
Starting point is 00:35:51 That's the coolest thing about it, I think, is that I guess the intention was we're gonna make a human who walks on two legs transform into something that's like completely different skeletally and muscularly and like how much would that hurt if your whole body changed that much. You know, like if your hand deformed like curled into a paw and like your head, your skull grew outwards and like, so that's why they want to make it so disgusting. Yeah. And I guess he was also talking about how you know like up until this point like where will transformations, you know, they're done with the dissolves where it's like it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the the the their, their, their, their th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, their their the until this point, like, where will transformations, you know, they're done with the dissolves where it's like you're just gradually adding and the actor has to be like perfectly still to do
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Starting point is 00:37:35 that little bit of extra added detail for like how long the howling transformation takes. Oh God all day. And it's good, don't get me wrong. I'm a big boatine fat. So after he transforms into this crazy quadrupedal wolf monster, he just terrorizes London. This is very scary to me because, as I think I've mentioned before, I'm like very afraid of the woods and being outdoors and being isolated. And I have the Siri that I'm like much safer in the city, you know, because if like somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody the the the the the the the the the the the woods and being outdoors and being isolated. And I have the theory that I'm like much safer in the city, you know, because if like somebody breaks into my house
Starting point is 00:38:08 and I start screaming, one of my elderly neighbors is gonna call the police and I only have to like evade the person. Right. And they're definitely at the Sinoco that's three blocks from my house. So they'll be aring people to shreds. He's in the subway. He's in the subway. He's in the subway.
Starting point is 00:38:29 How did he get in the subway? Does he have an oyster card? Did he jump the turnstile? Did no one notice him? No, no, no. to the today. to the, tho. Also, that guy falls on the escalator, and that was like the scariest scene in the movie to me. I was like, get up, get up, get off the escalator.
Starting point is 00:38:48 That is my scariest scene. Like, I'm watching that scene, and it's been a year since I've seen this movie, and I was like, oh, I can't wait to see him come around the werewolf? So I was like getting tense. I'm like, where's the werewolf? And then he falls in the escalator. I'm like, oh, there's the were wolf. And you see it for a split second and it's the fucking grossest. It's just like, oh, you're gonna tie. So big. Yeah. I think it's one of the, I always like kind of listed as one of the scariest scenes in a horror movie. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the scenes, th. th. th. th. th. th. the s scenes, th. th. the s scenes, the s scenes, the s scenes, the s scenes, thi. the s the s the sa. the sa. the sa. the sa. the sa. It's the s. It's the s. It's the s. It's the s. It's the s. And it's the s. And it's s. And it's s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sa. And it. And it's sa. And it's sa. And it's sa. S. S. Se. S. S. S, the. S. S. S. thea. thea. the the the the thea. the the the the throooooooooo. S, the sa. S. Elm Street when she sees her friends, her friend's body in the body bag and the hallway and the legs lift up and it drags down the hallway. There's like one the fuck, maybe it's something about like things going around corners or something.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I don't know. No, yeah, it's sort of a blind spot, you know. Anything can be happening back there. Also when he trips on the escalator escal escal escal escal escal escal just like you're so fucked. Just like, yeah, just fuck. Get up and run. Have you ever fallen on an escalator? And his briefcase falls open. It hurts really bad to fall.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yeah, they're really sharp on the edges. Fuck an escalator, what a dumb invention. I don't know, you've been to the tube at London though. Yeah. I would not the the the the the the the the the the the. You the. You the. You the the the. You've the. You've the the. You've the the. You've the the the the their their their their their thin, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thease. It's thease. It's thease. It's tree. tree. tree. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. triease. tube. tube. tube. tube. triease. steps. I just always think of mall rats, you know. What do I mean? Kids all the escalator! It gets a shoelace caught. Remember kids in the 90s are always getting their shoelaces caught in escalators and getting limbs ripped off and things like that? Would you like to meet a 41-year-old man who's still terrified of getting his shoe caught in an escalated? There you have the guy who goes outside outside to to to to to to to to to to to get the to get the the to get the the to get the the the the to get the the the the the the the the the a couple that are going to a dinner party. And then he kills the guy who goes outside to look for the couple. Who steps on an arm? Oh, maybe he doesn't kill him.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah, but he stepped in his friend. Yeah. Just this gross disembodied arm. Because he says, oh, he says is that you, Harry, and then he steps in Harry. Yeah. And I thought that was really funny. I feel like there also, like he was, like, Landis was also kind of poking fun at this sort of like upper class, sort of overly polite British manner. You know, like when the guy's in the subway and he thinks the werewolf is just some person fucking with him.
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Starting point is 00:41:35 of those guys getting destroyed. And apparently when it's screened and tea like losing it to a degree that it was like they couldn't move on to the next scene. Like people were still like shouting and freaking out and Landis thought it kind of like made it hard to get people to focus on the next scene. But I don't know if it's like a deleted scene that we can see somewhere or something, but it exists. It's probably really nasty. Because I guess you don't see the guy in the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy th. th. the th. the. the. the. Like the. the. Like the. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. don't see the guy in the subway get messed up. Right. And you don't really see the couple yet.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So I guess that would have been the only scene where you actually saw the attack happening. And maybe it's also because the, there's a really big, crazy attack scene at the end. Maybe the cue wanted to save that level of insanity for the end. Yeah, I like that you don't see a bunch of that, like you don't see the kills. They're all, they're mostly off screen. I think, you know, Jax is the one in the beginning that you really get a good look at when it's just mauling him. And then get the big ones ones th o ones th o ones th of th of th of the big thoing thoing the big tho tho the big the the the the, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the. the. the, like, like, thi, the. the. that that that that that that that that you don't that you don't that you don't that you don't that you don't see. that you don't see that you don't see that you don't see that you don't see that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. that, that, that, that. that. that. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the., but like, yeah, I enjoyed that. Because oftentimes, those like, you know, when you've got prosthetics attacking someone, it just looks like a puppet is attacking someone, so.
Starting point is 00:42:50 A ham puppet with like a jaw going. It's not so great. So yeah, then he wakes up in the zoo. Yeah. And he's in the wolf cage. And what does he say to the wolves? He said something about like, uh, there's like, the the they. they.. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they, they, they, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the. the. they. they. they. they. they. the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. wolves? He said something about like, there's like a phone call or something he used to make or something, like, just kind of like, he has a very casual. Yeah, nonchalant has conversation with him. Yeah, and then does the thing I don't think I could do, climb out of that cage. I think I'd be stuck in there. Yeah, I. Yeah. But then he just he just heumcised penis or else it would ruin continuity.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Continuity. And then he steals a coat at a really funny scene. Yeah. And then he's standing in line for the bus, wearing that coat and nothing else. Just a long lady's coat. Yeah. No pants, no socks, no shoe. I don't know how he paid to get on the, was he getting on bus.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I. to get on the, to get on bus. I was thinking that too. Maybe there's some change in the, that's what Mike and I were thinking. Yeah, or just, yeah. And meanwhile, the doctor is kind of being, like doing detective work, because nobody else is, I guess. The detectives aren't gonna do it. Yeah. So he goes to the slaughter and lamb and he gets this information that something is th something something something, th something, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. to, is. to, they. to, that something is going on, etc, etc. None of this is that important. But he believes him to be a werewolf, right? Right, because he talks to the one, the pockmarked guy, the guy with the darts, and the guy's
Starting point is 00:44:31 like, oh yeah, definitely were werewolf. Yeah. I still wasn't sure if the doctor though or just thought that he wasthought he was a werewolf at that point though. I think it was that. I think that he thought that he thought he was a werewolf. Yeah. I feel like I'm walking into an Abbot Costello routine, right? Yeah, I was really sorting that one out. I think they were also kind of trying to do the like, city versus country thing. The doctor comes in, everyone, and everyone, and everyone, and everyone, and everyone, and he, and he, and he, and he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, and he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, he, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I th. I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I th. tries to order a Kampari soda and they're just like we just have pints do you want to pint and he buys one he only drinks like two
Starting point is 00:45:09 sips yeah drives me crazy and those I felt that was wasteful yeah the sips keep getting refilled yeah every time he puts the mug of the glass out it's full again that's mad the doctor does have a really great the the the the doctor they's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the doctor's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the on the phone and he says, if I've survived Rommel, I can survive another excruciating evening with Roger Matheson. Yeah. And I thought that was a little nod to Richard Matheson, which was cute. Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah. But he also says that I survived Rommel.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I was like, fuck, what are you doing, Doctor? Speaking of bummers, then David goes and calls his family and tells him he loves them and I thought I might cry. I really thought I might cry. You want to make it worse? Yes, I do. His siblings, they have the names of Landis's kids. So he's like giving a little shout out to his kids. Oh.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Look at you trying to make Katie cry. Oh. And then he runs that a a that knife that knife that knife that knife that knife that knife that knife that knife that knife that knife the knife the knife the knife the knife the knife trying to make Katie cry. And then he runs that knife over his wrist the wrong way, but still. I don't know. Yeah. I guess that's after he tries to get arrested by saying, Shakespeare's friend. I like Shakespeare's friends. He tries to get arrested to get himself put in jail so he won't hurt anyone.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And no one takes him seriously. So then he calls his family sort of half-heartedly tries to kill himself but doesn't. Then goes to the porn theater. Jack looking even more desiccated and incredible. Porn theaters are a weird concept. Yeah. I know. And it was very expensive too. It was like two pounds 80? In 1981, that's a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:46:52 To see that amazing porn, but still. Jack shows up looking insane. His like, he's, what I really like is he keeps saying words like schmuck, which must be really hard to say it without lips, like it's just these clanking deeds. Is it a full animatronic? It's a puppet. It's a puppet. And Griffin Dunn was operating the puppet as he was saying the dialogue. Oh, that's neat. It's pretty cool. And also it has one of my favorite things, which is when a skull has eyeballs. I really like that. It makes like no sense and it looks super cool. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I guess that this they are Baker was saying it's it's kind of like always an issue with effects where you can't make someone convincingly look like a skull because it's like not additive. You have to take away. You need to like dig out the skin. So what they usually do is they build them up. They build someone up so then you kind of get this weird big head. Because you're building out the cheekbones so that you can make it look sunken. So they just were like, fuck it. We'll just do them as a whole puppet. I always think about the dad and the Father's Day thing on yes. Yes. When his head is his skulls like 15 sizes. Yeah. big. That's how that happened. So yeah, so then Jack is introducing David to all the people that he's killed.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah, it's a really funny and also just distressing and sad and weird scene. And the polite British couples like, just put the gun in your mouth and then you won't miss. So you set up to your forehead, like, and and they're like that's a wonderful idea. Everyone just has a sort of normal demeanor that they had like that British businessman is like just kind of cranky like just kind of like oh this is preposterous like that I'm dead how rude please kill yourself you know and the couple's very sunny about it. It's equal parts hilarious and very sad. Yeah, I think it's that perfect balance. Like it's not necessarily like a lot of horror comedies that kind of like set out to be a comedy first and foremost.
Starting point is 00:48:56 It just kind of has that weird, absurdist feel to it. It's like this is so ridiculous. And like there's jokes and people are being funny, but it's like terrifying and sad at the same time. Yeah I compare it to something like return of the living dead which is you know funny and ridiculous and gross but it's like there's at no point I'm like oh this is totally terrifying where this movie has that. I don't know just being where the corpse says it hurts to be dead. That is really fucked up, scary and sad. Yeah, but it's not like, I don't know. It's not on the level of this movie.
Starting point is 00:49:31 No, not at all. But it's just like one little moment in that movie. Oh, that's fucked up. Okay. It does have one of the most terrifying scenes. Linek. It never leaves me. It's with me always. So much more upsetting than if you saw the actual bits. David has his transformation.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And it's hilarious because it's in a porn theater and he starts screaming and grunting and moaning. And the guy comes up and he's like, please just go away. Oh, this is also they, um, they is when they refer to as carnivorous lunar activities. Yeah. In like that super stuffy, uptight, British way. I don't know that down. So yeah, he's like, he's now porno transforming and start slaughtering the people in the movie theater, transforming, and then the cops come in and he chases the cops out and bust through that door and it's like what the fuck
Starting point is 00:50:28 this dude's insane and then every car in London crashes nobody knows how to break they're all just like let's just drive it right into that wall the dude flying out of the bus window is that when he gets beheaded somebody gets beheaded no the wolf fights the guys the guys out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they the they the they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the wolf bites the guy's head off. And then just like spits it out. Yeah. There's one of those stunts is done by Landis. There's a scene where he crashes through a window. But you can like see it's him because he used to be a stunt guy, I guess. Of course he did.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And I guess so that scene was like a really big deal because they had to shut down that square to film it and it has to be like had to be perfectly choreographed so they could do it really fucking quickly and you know like you said like every car is crashing every car is crashing everyone is like flying through windows and the wolf like when they show the wolf running it's actually like a guy so it's a guy laying like on a kind of flat wheelbarrow situation. Oh okay is that why you never see like the back end of it. playing on a kind of flat wheelbarrow situation. Oh, okay. Is that why you never see like the back end of it? Yeah, the back end is a person's legs sticking out. So it's like, yeah, the actor's arms are operating the front legs.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And then someone is like pushing them on a wheelbarrow and the back legs are being puppeteded by like rods. It looks really cool. Yeah I love it. It looks awesome. When he's just kind of like running to the city and looking back and forth at everybody like, oh am I going to kill next. So then we get the cop showing up with their guns, cornering him in that alleyway. Yeah and then Alex comes running in like, I love you and I have the note all in caps which says we'll love be enough. And the answer is no, it's not. It's not. I always was like, I can't remember where I heard this, because it wasn't on the extras
Starting point is 00:52:09 in this DVD I have, but I watched some other behind the scenes where Jenny Agata said she could not stop laughing. When they were filming that scene, because she thought it was so ridiculous, because what she was talking to was like that actor, like on the wheelbarrow thing, and he's looking into this like angry, like, you know, sculpted, hilarious wolf face that's just like completely still and saying, I love you, David, and she like couldn't keep it together because she was like, this is so stupid. Yeah, but it doesn't come off as stupid. It's like very heartbreaking. That's the thing about were a sad animal. It's a sad monster. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. It's like, the movie. It's like, th. It's like, th. It's like, th. It's like, th. It's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. It's, th. th. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. very heartbreaking. That's the thing about were wolves. You know, it's a sad animal. It's a sad monster. The movie just ends like I just couldn't, it was such an abrupt ending of like him getting shot
Starting point is 00:52:52 turning into dead naked still David. Credit's roll. With the bobbbobbbbobob a bau bau bau. Oh man. It ended and I was just like, like, dumbstruck. Do you want to move on to the ratings phase? Wow, I like this thing that you do me know. Do you want to go first, Jean?
Starting point is 00:53:13 I mean, it's one of my favorite horror movies, so I would say like a 10. Oh yeah. But it's not like one of, I guess it doesn't like say a lot that's like super insightful or anything like that, but it's like just really perfectly executed and awesome and it has amazing effects and visuals and jokes. So I think it's great. Katie. I had never seen this before and I loved it. Oh, awesome. I think this is like what horror comedy should be. And that's why I get so mad when things are over the top or when things are like the comedy is taking away from the horror because in this movie I think the comedy is present but it's not taking away from how
Starting point is 00:53:51 horrific the situation is and how terrifying it would be and like how I don't know gory and whatever. Yeah, I want to give it a nine and a half. Oh nice. Yes. Only because I feel like I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th th th th th th thi like I thi like I thi like thi thi thi thi thi the like I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the the. I the. I the. I theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. thooo. theee. I the. I the. I the with myself. Great job. Only because I feel like I can't give to Jenny Agatar movies a 10. Child's Way 2 has already happened. I am also going to give this a 9.5. I was thinking about this today, like where I was going to come down on this. I can't give it a 10. It's not like a perfect movie but it's a really interesting movie because when I think back on them, like, you know, nothing really happens.
Starting point is 00:54:25 There's not a lot in this movie, but it's so enjoyable to work. You're entertained. Yeah. I mean, there's a moment before he transforms where he's just like hanging out in her apartment, trying to read books and whatever. And I was like, what is like, what back to America? That's what I was, is, are you living with her permanently? Is this like a weird... You're my new mom?
Starting point is 00:54:48 I don't know what either of them were thinking when they set up this situation. Oh, she was thinking, I'm gonna have a sad fuck, and then he was thinking. And then what? I'm aware ofto leave this mentally unwell person in my home. And I'm not unattended. And not give them a key as it turns out. So they can't even leave. Oh, thank you for bringing this. This was awesome. I guess I had just, like I said, thought it was American were wolf in Paris, which
Starting point is 00:55:16 everyone says terrible. Which why I'd never sought it out to watch it. I'm really really I finally saw it. Yeah, nailed it. So Jean, do you want to tell us about the stuff you, Gene is an amazing artist. We will link to some of her stuff. And, no, I think so. That's true. Don't shug it off. Don't shrug it off. You guys can't see it, but she's shrugging. I showed Katie your, your zines and stuff and she knows how good your stuff is. And th. And th. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. th. th. th. th. th. th. Thank. th. the stuff. th. th. th. th. the stuff. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. th. Thank. to. to. to. the th. Thank. th. Thank. Thank. the th. Thank. Thank. Thank. the the the the the the the the the the th. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. to. G. G. G. G. Gene. G. Gene. Gene. Gene. Gene, yeah. Oh yeah. Like how I just did that? You like how I just put on in there? Tell us about your stuff. Where can people find your junk, your arts? I'm so.
Starting point is 00:55:52 So. You're art. Not junk at all. I just finished out a big zine projects with Mike who was on previously. He does something called Seventh Church Ministries, which is like he puts out these sort of very limited art scenes that are related to horror literature. And for mine I chose to do illustrations based on Nikolai Gogol's horror stories, which are kind of his lesser-known things, which is something I've been like really obsessed with for since I
Starting point is 00:56:21 was like in my 20s. And so this is like a really big project for me that I just finished late summer of like 15 illustrations and you can't buy them anymore because they already sold out. So I'm not really promoting that per se, but that's like the last really big project I finished. You can see them all on my website which is Gene Mdiann-D-A-N-D-A-L-E-L-L-E-L-O. the-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-Sh-Sh-S-S-S-Sh-Sh-Sh-Sh-I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS-S-SS-S-S-S-S-S-S-SUUUU-SSSSSSSSSS-SS-SUUU-SSSSSS-S-SUU-SS-S-S-S-S-A-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-SSS and my name is J E A N N N D A N G L O. Fair. It's a lot. Yeah. But you can see that whole series there if you like, you know, horror literature inspired art.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And beautiful things. They're so beautiful. Thank you. Oh, there's some good like witches, sorcerers, ghost. Hell yeah. Tha, like swamp witches. I have like a little mini art scene that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. You can the tho. You can th. You can th. You can th. You can th. You can th. Hell yeah. Things like that. You all like Swamp Witches? I have like a little mini art scene that's still available on my Etsy, which you can find linked from my website.
Starting point is 00:57:13 This is just like small black and white illustrations. I just finished four big pieces for something that's going to come out through Sennepede Press, but that's not coming out till 2017. Whoa! Which I just found out even though I just finished them so get excited about that. It's illustrations based on Ramsey Campbell's short stories, which is really cool because he's an author I really like. Yeah. And right now I'm just kind of hanging out and working on personal projects. I have an Instagram which is everlasting faint can follow me there. It's where I post a lot of stuff. Do you do commissions at all? I do take commissions if they are cool. Because I have a day job so I don't want to do
Starting point is 00:57:55 stupid commissions anymore but I do like doing commissions if they're kind of like, if you look at my stuff and you think oh I have something that will like really be perfect in this style and like open to doing stuff like that. Nice. Yeah. People should take a look at your stuff and employ you to do things that are cool. Thank you. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:58:14 I agree. All right, well, we're going to get out on wherewolf ambulance. Thank you. Thanks for having us this movie. Thank you for enjoying it. It was super fun. And you can find us on Facebook? Gene, you can find us on Facebook, we're a werewolf ambulance. I'm going there right now. Instagram we are were werewolf ambulance.
Starting point is 00:58:39 What are we doing? Next week we're going to be doing it's our Christmas episode. What? We're doing an in-theaters movie. We're doing the new Adam Scott Tony Colette horror comedy, Crumpus. Yes. Crompus. So go see it, eat some popcorn. Get yourself some raisinets. You guys should go see it just to support a Crispus Horror Movie because there's not enough. No. There's a lot of them. There's not enough of those. No. There's a lot of them actually. There's not enough. Make more. So we'll be talking about that next week. And we're going to spoil it so don't even listen to the episode if you haven't seen the
Starting point is 00:59:10 movie. I'm just putting it out there. All right. I'm just putting it out there. All right. So thank you again, Gene. No problem. And thanks for listening to another episode of WhereWolf Ambulance. Bye. Bye. By. Jean.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Say goodbye. Bye.

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