Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Alexandra Daddario
Episode Date: January 25, 2019Santino sits down with Alexandra Daddario to chat about horse cops, baywatch and a movie that never got made Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger.
My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth.
I say that for all my guests.
Don't be flattered.
But it's Alexandra Daddario.
Yay!
Yay!
Excuse me because I'm sweating profusely
because we've been running around finishing the studio.
But doesn't it look kind of nice?
It looks really great.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, very professional.
Yeah, very profosh.
Very profosh is what we say in the business.
You asked to drink today.
I said I wasn't going to,
but since you're a violent alcoholic.
You sort of offered.
I did.
Yeah, I did. When I looked up your podcast, I was like, oh my God, but since you're a violent alcoholic. You sort of offered. I did. I definitely did. Yeah, I did.
When I looked up your podcast, I was like, oh my God, is this my excuse to drink whiskey
In the middle of the day?
At noon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is.
Cheers.
Cheers.
This is Michter's.
Great.
It's delicious and it's good for you.
Okay.
Are you going to go over the mic?
Like this?
There you go.
Mmm.
Great. Is that good?
So good
I like how you approved it
With the camera
Great
First of all
I want to talk about
A lot of stuff with you
Okay
How we know each other
All sorts of jazz
Look at your cool shoes though
I'm wearing very cool shoes
Show the cam
So they can see what those are
They have superheroes on them
Yeah those are tight
Are they Marvel shoes?
I can't really tell Yes It's Marvel's. Official Vans Marvels. It's Marvel's. They teamed up with Vans.
Yeah. Yes, obviously. Yes. I don't know if they're still selling them, but they're super cool.
Let's just pretend like they're super exclusive. Yeah, they made them just for me. Just for Alex,
just for Hollywood people. So all you normal people don't get them. No,
they probably have super access to them. Yeah. I think most anyone with, you know,
a hundred bucks has access to these shoes. Not a lot of people have a hundred bucks these days.
That's true. That's true. I am. Yes. You won percenter. Oh God. Snowflakes. Snowflakes.
So we know each other. Let's give people some background to a lot of different stuff. First
of all, you're an extremely accomplished actress, a talented human being.
You don't think so?
Look, I'm pretty proud of myself.
I would be if I was you.
Let me put myself in your shoes real fast.
Okay.
Can I have your shoes?
Yeah, sure.
No, let me put myself in your shoes.
You've done, how many films have you done?
50?
No, 50. 50? I don't think 50. I've done, how many films have you done? 50? No, 50.
50?
I don't think 50.
I've done a lot.
I couldn't actually count it up.
I'm at that point where I've done so many,
I don't know how many I've done.
So you've done a lot.
But not 50.
No.
But like how many next year?
Two, three?
I'd say three a year for you, right?
Lately, I've been working.
I mean, the thing that happened was that, you know, as an act, and I've been acting
since I was a little kid.
How old, when did you start acting?
Like 10.
I would go on like commercial audition.
I was very cute.
What happened?
Yeah, well.
Lost it all.
Well, I'll tell you.
Drugs and alcohol.
I was not cute for a portion of time you know my awkward teenage years and then
i came out on the other side okay but um yeah i mean it's been a long road of not working and
struggling and being like is this even a career like what is you know what am i doing you almost
feel embarrassed to call yourself an actor because you're bartending or you're doing something else and people give you weird looks and sort of judge you.
And then all of a sudden you're like years go by and you work and work and work.
And then all of a sudden the last like two, three years I've been busy.
You're like I'm like a working actress.
Yeah.
You're proud to say it now.
Yeah.
I mean, it's very, very cool.
But people don't know you are still bartending at the Palm just for fun.
That's right.
That's just like a side. I don't even know if I could get't know you are still bartending at the Palm just for fun. That's right. That's just like a sidekick.
I don't even know if I could get that job.
Getting a bartending job in this town is impossible.
It's easier to get on a series.
It's easier to get a reoccurring role on something.
That's right.
It's easier to book a studio movie than to get a bartending job in this town.
So when you were 10, did your parents force you into it?
Or were you like, I want to do it?
No, not at all.
It was like totally accidental I mean
I grew up in New York City and like I think some my manager who was my long-term manager when I
was a kid saw me in the audience at some play I don't know why I was you know one of these you
know my parents just just like would bring me to all kinds of stuff and give me all kinds of
opportunities you were cultured.
That's right.
Yeah.
Did you grow up in the city of New York?
Yeah, I grew up on the Upper East Side.
My parents are lawyers.
Dope.
And so they were like, we want to give our kids all these different opportunities.
Yeah.
So one of the things they sent me to was acting lessons because this manager thought I was
cute, wanted to send me out to, you know, commercial auditions.
That's always so weird, by the way.
When like a grown man is like, your daughter's cute.
It was a woman.
Oh,
okay,
thank God.
Yeah.
So it wasn't as weird.
Yeah,
but that's a thing in Hollywood all the time.
totally.
Where like these managers are like,
where I was out at a restaurant
and some dude walked by
to the couple next to us
and they had like a little daughter.
Yeah.
And the guy was like,
oh,
I'm a talent agent
and a model scout
and your daughter's so cute
and it like made me nauseous as fuck.
I was like, this is so gross. That's weird. Well, but here's what's really sad. He was kind of
attractive. So I like, I kind of gave him a little bit of a pass because we do that. Like if he was
ugly and weird, then you're like, fucking let's kill him. Right. But for some reason he was like
kind of handsome. And I was like, maybe he's legit. I know that sounds so gross, but. No,
I mean, it's, I mean, it's like, is he being legit or, I mean it's I mean it's like is he being legit or I mean you
should sort of have like a female counterpart to go do those nowadays yeah nowadays you have to
yeah you can't go over and be like your 10 year old daughter is just gorgeous oh my god can I
can I take a picture of her right now right that's so great I'm gonna need to take a series of photos
to send to my agency for approval yeah Yeah. Why are you posting them online?
That's the agency.
So when you were 10, you started acting.
You were very cultured.
But your parents are both lawyers.
Did they meet in litigation?
That's in my brain.
They met in law school at Georgetown.
Ooh, nice.
Yeah.
So, I mean, the end of this boring story is basically that's how I took acting lessons
and I was sent out and I auditioned until I booked work.
What year did you move to L.A.?
2009.
Here for good?
Here for good.
Yeah, I moved in 2009 and, you know, now it's...
Do you miss New York?
10 years.
I do, yes.
I just came from there.
Yeah.
We were trying to do this earlier and I just didn't come back from New York.
You never came back. You never came back.
I never came back.
You just stayed.
That's right.
What is it that kept you in New York?
Were you filming something?
I was filming something in New York.
And then once we wrapped, I just like could not bring myself to come back to Los Angeles.
Because you love New York so much.
I just, I loved New York.
I was like, just one of the great things about my job
is that I work about half the year.
And then the other half, I don't have to work,
which is crazy.
That's so nice.
People at home are so angry to hear that.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, I'm very, very lucky.
So I can just be like, I'm going to hang out in New York
and just run around and kick it for two, three extra months.
And that was cool.
And then I was ready to come back to LA.
What was the film that you were,
what were you shooting in New York?
Can you say?
I was shooting, it was a film called
Can You Keep a Secret based on a Sophie Kinsella novel.
It's a romantic comedy with Tyler Hoechlin,
who's a very handsome man
from Teen Wolf
and Everybody Wants Some
and Laverne Cox
and a bunch of other great.
Can you keep a secret?
I can.
Should I tell you
some stuff off air
and see if you can keep it?
Sure.
Okay.
It'll get back to you
in like two days.
Yeah, I'm like,
Alex, what the fuck?
I mean,
I can keep a secret
but I will make the
end judgment whether it's something that i really think i shouldn't tell or not are you a judge
isn't that how we all do that yeah yeah but are you a judgy person when someone tells you a secret
no i don't think i'm judgmental you just are you're you're uh you're deciding whether or not
it's worth it to talk i'm like i you know what you think that that secret's not worth me telling
other people but i don't think it's
that big of a deal.
So I'm going to go ahead and tell other people.
Isn't that how everybody does that?
Like everybody tells everybody like they're like, I can tell this one person this secret.
I trust this one.
When they said don't tell anyone, they didn't mean for me to not tell my, you know.
When they say don't tell anybody, that means tell someone.
Right.
And they say, please don't tell anybody.
That means tell everyone you know. Right.. When they say please don't tell anybody,
that means tell everyone you know.
And when they say I swear to God,
this is just like only you can know this,
that means fucking call a press outlet and tell everybody on there.
The more intense they are about not talking about it,
that just means to me that they're like tell everyone.
Like somebody just told me something in a bar
a couple of nights ago, a friend,
about a friend of a friend that we both mutually know
and I'm not gonna leak names because it's not my shit,
but a secret about someone from back home
pregnant from so-and-so and so-and-so.
Right.
But all they were doing was telling me
because they wanted me to somehow get it back
to the friend that we both mutually know.
Oh, sure.
It was very strategic.
I was like, this is such a fucking strategy.
Yeah, it was a chess move.
Yeah.
And I haven't until now.
So, no.
I let it loose.
But look. Just tell me and I let it loose. But look.
Just tell me and I'll tell everyone.
I will.
You seem to be like you're going to keep it a secret.
So I'll tell you.
I've murdered 15 people in California alone.
Yeah.
That's exciting.
Yeah.
Just with my angst.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Yeah.
Just I'm nervous.
Wow.
My anxiety killed.
It's like a superpower.
Yeah.
I'm just like, people just die right away.
So we met.
This is kind of wild. we met because we were going
to do a movie together it never ended up working out we wrote this movie we sat down um you kind
of wanted to do it lil rel howie kind of wanted to do it and we couldn't get it off the ground i
couldn't believe it because i liked it so much and i really wanted you in it because i thought
you'd be perfect on it but this blossomed from it so i guess good things come good things do
yeah i mean it was
that script was very funny and can we talk about who was no we shouldn't talk about details of
i mean i don't know i don't yeah i don't really hide anything from the viewers but i really don't
give a shit i mean unless it's i'm not trying to slander anybody basically it was just very funny
yeah it was a funny script it was good it was great i like to say it was a desert-based fantasy comedy about best friends who employ you.
Yes.
And your superhero father.
That's right.
Your super larger-than-life action star hero father to save the day, so to speak.
Right.
I wanted you to be this hero, you know?
I wanted you to be a hero. I know? I wanted you to be a hero.
I watched some of his action movies.
Pretty incredible.
For the first time after meeting you.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
It's crazy, right?
Oh, it's so incredible.
We can say who it was.
People can guess.
I feel like it'll be the mystery of the project.
Oh, this'll be good.
Yeah, who is it?
Who is it?
Yeah, it's, yeah, I'm not gonna say who it is,
but right, yeah, we wrote it that you were his daughter.
I would say is that he never gets injured.
No, yeah.
There's really, there's no competition.
No.
There's none.
No.
That was something I was like, is he gonna even?
It's like Bruce Lee, how Bruce Lee kind of never got,
well, no, Bruce Lee did get fucked up, actually,
now that I think about it.
But it just, he was, his films, he's very evasive.
That's right.
Yeah, he's very evasive.
Extremely, yes.
Yeah.
Okay, let's talk a little bit of shit.
How about that?
Okay.
What film have you done that you really didn't like?
Whether it was the film itself or the process or something else.
You know what I've enjoyed?
I mean, I've had some bad experiences on films.
But I find that you always Sort of find something
Oh god
I don't even know
How to answer this question
Not politically correctly
I know
Like look I wish
I could be honest
I know nobody can anymore
But I can't
Like actors
Like we're not allowed
To like say
See but isn't this so
See this is like a good point
I want to talk about
This is the reason
That like comics now
Are opening up so much
And talking shit
About the truth really
Kind of how like,
you know,
kind of how the Me Too movement was birthed
that people were like keeping secrets for so long.
But it was secrets that they shouldn't have kept, right?
Kind of like when someone's a piece of shit on set
or someone's an asshole
or someone's a torrential dick to work with,
now more than ever,
it will slowly continue.
But like people should be like,
yo, you know what project sucked?
This,
because this guy's a fucking asshole
and no one wants to talk about it right but because of our business you blanket
yeah it's fucked up and even i mean it's it's just like you're not you're not i mean and the whole
you know me too thing is you know i get that feeling of like i can't piss this person in a
position of power off they may have hit on me and made me uncomfortable on set, but that's not a crime.
They didn't do anything.
Well, that isn't a crime,
but it depends on what level you take things to, right?
Right.
Like, at what point can you actually be like,
this person's a dick,
but like, is there really a point in, you know,
depending on what level it's at.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
You sort of, you just sort of, it's a job,
and sometimes people aren't going to get along,
and people are dicks, and you just have to sort of, there is sort of, it's a job. And sometimes people aren't going to get along and people are dicks.
And you just have to sort of, there is sort of like, you don't want to, it's hard to deal with the repercussions of speaking up.
I mean, totally.
I mean, that's what I think.
That's why I say like comics, people are like, oh, aren't you afraid what you say?
I'm like, this is the best for me.
Because now I'm able to say it.
And if they have anything to say about it, it's like, I'm a comedian.
Our whole job is to mock things
talk shit about
sensitive issues
and people can get
mad about it
but the point is
somebody needs to be
talking about it
and I feel like
we're the only
we're like the last
orators that are
allowed to kind of
talk about shit
because musicians
actors
any live performer
they're
protecting themselves
because they're
protecting their brand
but our brand is somewhat honesty
I mean to a degree
so do you feel like you have not been able to
you censor yourself more than you would have last year
I used to
I used to censor myself a bunch
but like slowly but surely
I've censored myself less and less and less
because I'm becoming more confident and more
you know I don't know my career is going better so I feel like in the sense of it's going better because I'm becoming more confident and more, you know, I don't know, my career is going better.
So I feel like in the sense of it's going better
because I don't give a fuck as much
about what somebody's gonna say about me
because I'm just telling my truth.
That's my angle from it.
And if they don't like it,
okay, you don't have to work with me.
But there's a bunch of other people that will work with me
because they probably do like it.
You know what I mean?
There's this old coin of like, you know,
if nobody hates you, there's something wrong like, you know, if nobody hates you,
there's something wrong as a comic.
Like if nobody hates you,
if everyone's like,
he's the best.
It's like,
that's a little weird.
Everybody likes you.
Right.
So to have like a little bit of hate or backlash
or I don't agree with what he says
and I don't like that he says that stuff.
That's kind of a positive thing
because it's like,
yeah, good.
We should be that way.
Like,
I don't want to get too political,
but my biggest beef with politics is like, if you're so far left or so far right i don't like
either of you right that's my personal opinion i think super leftists and super righties are
obnoxious assholes because they're so staunch in their opinion it's like we should all be somewhere
in the middle right we should all be a little bit more of a mixed bag less than this whole uh i stand
by this regardless.
It's like, that's an insane idea.
You wouldn't do that for anything else in your life.
No, of course not.
So I think that's, you know,
that has transferred to a part of our business
that's, you know, it causes a lot of problems,
but it also is opening up more doors of truth, I guess.
Right. You know?
Yep.
Now that we're done being very serious,
let's talk about, let's talk about Hitler no let's talk about something real serious no you're you um you did you did a movie
that I went to see in the theater called San Andreas sure you're gonna do it again
well yeah I mean Dwayne's schedule is so busy. Dwayne is the rock. People don't know that that's his ring. I'm sorry, the rock.
For the layman, they don't know.
Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
So yeah, I mean, I know that that's on line
and everything that we're doing San Andreas too,
but I have not heard officially one way or the other.
Sure, that's how it always works.
I mean, you never know.
I mean, you can be attached to films
and then it just never happens.
That's so weird to me.
Right.
That somebody said that you are,
but you're really not.
Yeah.
I mean,
I am,
but it's like,
is the film going to actually get made?
You don't know.
Is he too busy?
Yeah,
probably too busy is probably what you should have said.
I mean,
I think people can tell how I have,
I can tell that he's very busy.
Yeah.
It's almost like,
uh,
was he a nice guy to you?
He's extremely nice. You're going to say yes, no matter what. No, but I would, I mean, I, you Yeah, it's almost like, was he a nice guy to you? He's extremely nice.
You're going to say yes no matter what.
No, but I would, I mean, you know,
I can, I hate to,
my least favorite thing is to go on a press junket
and just be like, oh my God.
I know, see, that's the hardest thing.
Everyone is so great.
I love everything.
When you just want to, you know,
like you just want to sit around and tell,
I hate bullshitting,
but no, I'm not bullshitting
he's he's cool he's i mean he's exact i don't think he'd be able to be where he is if he wasn't
incredibly cool did you get swole with him did you get jacked with him i got swole you got jacked
did you work out with with the rock did you ever work out i didn't work out with him that'd be so
fun to work out with him i worked out on a beach near him. Okay. I mean, on Baywatch, we, everyone, we were just constantly working out.
Yeah.
That seemed like everybody was.
Did you eat food on the show?
I ate a lot of food.
You know what happened was I was on this, I was in incredible shape.
I've never looked better in my life.
I did all these photo shoots.
So now that's, that's going to be around forever, which is great.
So I don't have to get into that kind of shape again.
So now you can just get super fat.
That's right.
But I got into incredible shape.
And like a week into shooting, I was just like, I can't, it'll last.
And like a week into shooting, I just gave up.
I was drinking, eating cheeseburgers.
Living like a human being.
That's right.
Because it was just too much for me to keep up.
Well, that's kind of like how I feel.
Like I work out almost every day, but it's only so I can eat and drink and do what I want.
Right.
Like I don't ever want to have that Hollywood restriction that's like,
I like, like have friends that go to lunch with me and I'm like,
I'm not saying get like a grease pit of shit to eat for lunch, but like,
we don't always, you don't always have to have a salad.
Like you can also get a sandwich sometimes.
Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on, you know, look, I'm pretty lucky in that I can eat.
You've always been thin.
Yeah, I've always been.
I mean, I have been in bad shape, but, you know.
Oh, we know.
We've seen.
I mean, obviously not.
But like, I think you get obsessed and you're just like.
And everybody around you is obsessed.
And you're just, and the more obsessed everyone else is, the more you become obsessed.
And then you get sick of yourself.
You get sick of everyone else being obsessed.
Like, like Efron was so cut up.
He looked like a mannequin.
It looked like, it looked fake.
He was so cut up.
I mean, I've never seen.
It's like he didn't drink water for like a month and a half.
I've never seen a human being look like that. No, neither have I. I mean, I've never seen. It's like he didn't drink water for like a month and a half. I've never seen a human being look like that.
No, neither have I.
I mean, it's just not, it's not.
It's not human?
He is that diligent of a.
Yeah.
Like when he gets focused on something, he's.
He's all in.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a cool cat.
I've run into him a few times.
He's a really nice guy and he's a very focused human being.
Extremely.
That's a good word.
Focused.
Yes. And a nice guy. But also a very focused human being extremely that's a good word focused yes and a
nice guy but also very focused yes yeah this is like all in where you're like yeah that's incredible
i don't know how you could like i've tried to get abs my whole life and i can only get the i can get
the um you know the v the line i can get the v yeah that's like the sex trough i don't know what
you want to call that that's like the whatever that is that's like the sex trough. I don't know what you want to call that. That's like the, whatever that is.
That's like a dustpan, like the fuck dustpan.
But I can't get abs.
I think it's just my Irish body doesn't do that.
I don't think I'm allowed to have abs.
Nobody in Ireland ever had fucking abs.
I'll tell you, women, we don't really care about abs.
Women do care about abs.
Don't you say that.
I think that is a male myth.
Okay, so if a guy takes off a shirt and he has and he has a a
a flat stomach with no abs you you're you were just as attracted to that as a guy who had zach's
body yeah i i was talking about this with a girlfriend of mine the other night like i think
met like the like women we don't really care we just we want to like get along with someone and
like i know but the physical connection has to
be there too yeah but you can have a physical connection with a bad body yeah have you ever
dated someone with a bad body yeah name them no i'm kidding mike lowfield of of but not a bad
but it's not a bad body i mean i it's not it's not. It's just not like this conventional.
It's a normal guy's body.
Yeah, like I don't think that like,
I think that that's way,
I mean, maybe there are,
I know, I mean, I guess for me personally
and my friend who I was talking to about it
the other day, like we don't care one way or the other.
Right, well, women are way less shallow
when it comes to looks.
Yeah, well, I certainly think
men are probably way
into the flat stomach
and the whole thing.
But as you get older,
I think,
as a male,
like as I've gotten older,
you find certain
schlubby things attractive.
It's hard to describe.
Interesting.
Sometimes schlubbiness is hot.
Right.
Like someone not trying so hard.
Yeah, it's kind of hot.
Like sometimes there's something really, well, especially because we are inundated in LA
with like hot bodies.
So like sometimes when I see like someone that's like not trying, but also like they're
shapely, you know, they're.
Yeah.
It's kind of sexy.
Yeah.
I know it is very sexy.
What am I saying?
It's very sexy.
It's sexy because it's like, it's different. And it's honest. And it's a little bit like, fuck sexy. Yeah. I know it is very sexy. What am I saying? It's very sexy. It's sexy because it's like, it's different.
Great.
And it's honest and it's a little bit like, fuck it.
Right.
Not like, fuck it, like, you know, I have diabetes, fuck it.
Like, you know, I'm just.
Right, sure.
I'm just, you know, living my life and like, yeah, this sucks, but I like beer sometimes.
And like that kind of thing is sexy.
I think as you get older as a guy, when you're a young dude, you're like.
Yeah.
Fucking hot chicks, dude. Fucking fake tits. I think think dudes love that shit and then you kind of grow a little bit
out of that right phase well that's good to hear as i get older as i enter my mid you're gonna be
i don't think you're gonna enter that world of like i mean although i would love to look back
in 20 years and that you ballooned up you know I mean? That you've gotten so fat and you're like, Santino told me, guys are still going to love
me now that I've given up.
I mean, I can't feel my feet and I have, you know, psoriasis.
Look, I mean, I'm into being healthy.
Yeah.
But I think like, you know, it almost feels like I've gone through this like hot portion
of my career.
You think it's over?
Well, no.
like hot portion of my career you think it's over well no it's just like i feel like i was always like a nerdy kid and guys didn't want to date me which everyone rolls their eyes that they're like
oh that's so annoying well here let me cut you off real fast though explain the nerdy thing because
people always say oftentimes guys roll their eyes because some a girl goes i was a nerd i was it's
like but what made you a nerd because when someone goes i was a nerd i like to read it's like yeah i hope so most people like oh god i don't made you a nerd you i
just was i don't know i mean i'm still like like just awkward and like like i think you're a fucking
huge nerd okay i think you're a dork great i mean the people who know me well they're like a little
i basically i mean i don't know what really, I just wasn't cool.
I wasn't like hot.
Were you an outcast as a kid?
I wasn't an outcast.
I just like had like not, like I was like in the like dork crowd, like cool kids, like guys didn't want to date.
Like I was just nerdy.
What was your nerdiest thing?
Like we had uniforms at my school and like all the cool kids would roll their skirts up or have their mom like my skirt was like the one down below my knees and I was wearing an ill-fitting shirt and my braces and like goofing around telling dumb jokes and being too loud and like.
Maybe you were cute but not you were just a cute dorky kid.
Yeah I mean I sure I was cute but.
I mean I don't know I'd have to see I I'm sure I was like
pretty adorable except when I was being super annoying but I think I think I yeah so I never
had guys and then and then I and then I you know I got started doing movies and then I I you know I
was sort of a struggling actress even after I did this big movie Percy Jackson.
And then I booked True Detective and then all of a sudden everyone was like, she's the sexiest woman on earth.
And I was like.
That's cool though, right?
I was like, cool.
Yeah, that is cool.
What is this about?
I felt like I couldn't live up to it.
I thought it was a cool thing.
Did you not feel sexy prior to that no I mean I I I didn't have a real sense of of any of that no are you
are you aware of it now or no is it still kind of something that you're far more aware of it I'm not
uncomfortable with it I think it's cool and I think it does it I just I thought it was like
this weird role
that I got to play for a couple years.
You're a great character actor playing someone attractive.
When you take off your mask.
No, I'm just saying like for, it was just like,
like between Baywatch and True Detective,
it was just like very like, like, you know,
they were, you know, it was just,
that was what I was known for.
Totally. Do you, do you want, is there something in your career that's coming next that you're
wanting to make a transition away from those kinds of things?
It's not that I'm actively trying to make a transition away. I'm really grateful to be
working. I think if I can work in that, if I can play the like Baywatch role, I mean,
that's great for me. It's fun. I think it's cool. Um cool um i have just naturally started to do different kinds of stuff
um uh there's a movie coming out called we have always lived in the castle that i did
um where i play very ominous titles of the films that you're doing it's surely jackson secret yeah
do you live in a castle yeah the gnome runs underneath the bridge i don't know what's what's
the next crazy long titled film Right the ominous portion
Yeah that's cool though
You said Percy Jackson
No Percy Jackson was the first big film I did
We've Always Lived in the Castle is this movie that's coming out
That where I'm
Like it's more of a
Character it's just I think
A natural transition like I want to do more
I want to do different kinds of stuff
totally every actor says that what's your dream gig hosting the tonight show is what you're saying
that's interesting i wouldn't have picked you for that my dream gig i don't know i want to i i don't
think i could do one thing like one reason why i've been terrified of television of network tv
it's not even like network tv is so great because it's consistency
you're in one place you get paid well and you you know you have a job year after year it terrifies
me because i'm terrified of doing one thing right the monotony might get to you yeah yeah no it is
it is quite difficult actually like my dream situation is what i'm doing now is just jumping
around film the place to place yeah different thing
to different now do you take time to do indie shit or do you mainly focus on doing studio
pictures I've been doing indie more independent films recently lately right because you did you
have done a lot of studio films yeah I basically exclusively jumped into studio films that's cool
without even doing yeah I mean I got very lucky i've had a weird trajectory
yeah we've all been saying that's very weird very weird well there's no one way i guess there's no
one way to do it right so many people go from indie to studio and then maybe back to indie i
feel like that's a natural thing that i see often is like a lot of actors will will start something
small and then they'll get a big film or an indie blew up and then they get big films and then
someone some somewhere in
their career they're like i kind of want to do indie again yeah because indies are so cool i
mean i think they're i think the reason that actors like them the reason that like i've enjoyed doing
the ones that i've done is because they're so much more personable they feel more like it feels
like there's more love there now granted the money is way worse the schedules are fucking insane nobody's pampering you you know what i mean you get pampered and you feel great when you do
big shit because right they treat you so well right so you sacrifice all that stuff to kind of
feel more low to the ground though there is something nice about you know that's that's what
i do for for a living like comedy so dirt low to the ground that it like that's why i think a lot of comics have a tough time
if they do act transferring into studio shit because it's kind of tidy and tightened up and
studio comedies aren't really loose anymore no no you know so that's really hard like when's the
last time you saw an award show that had the comedy category and actually awarded a comedy
i know it's true yeah they're like it's I fucking when uh the Martian one like wasn't the Martian
it was yeah and then um comedy fantasy tourist they grouped as a comedy like what are you talking
about I mean I think that studio films and there's something great about like the corporateness of it
because if you work on enough indies and you've there people running it don't know what they're
doing then you can really get you're like god can we get a lawyer or an accountant? Can we get a bottle of water would be nice.
Can we get someone over here to sort of like
monitor what's going on?
But then on the flip side, a studio film can be so controlled
and so lawyered up and so like having so much,
that I can imagine for a comedian who just wants to go off
and have fun, that it's way too controlled.
Well I think comedian's biggest beef
is like the script is one way and this is something i'm going to ask you and i am going to pull i want
to pull something tiny out of you like this but like yeah this isn't a negative thing right so
i'll preface that but occasionally you'll read something and then when it's shooting script it's
so much different that you're a little let down oh sure like like have you read a script that was
so good that when you shot it not that it wasn good, it was just so different that you were like, man, I really like this iteration instead of the change.
It hasn't been like that.
It's been more.
Yeah.
I mean, in its execution, I've had I think that in its execution on a big film and I've seen look, I've had films.
I mean, I know Baywatch was like this, and so was Percy Jackson.
Some of the bigger films, you get new pages in every single day.
They change every day.
And sometimes they'll make a decision,
like we need to change the last third of this entire film.
And they'll decide that during shooting.
So then you have a bunch of people just panicking,
trying to figure out why did we do this change?
How do we hire these people?
And they're trying to put something together
that hasn't really been thought through.
We're in the middle of production.
Everyone's exhausted.
You have a bunch of people in LA
and we're wherever we are, New Orleans.
And you just feel like you don't really even know
what it is you're shooting.
You're just sort of upon your prop, an expensive prop and this set. And that's you just feel like you don't really even know what it is you're shooting. You're just sort of upon your prop, an expensive prop on this set.
And that's fine.
That's your job.
I mean, I'm pretty I'm pretty like, you know, as an actor, it's your job to you're hired to to perform a task like anyone else, whether you like it or not.
Like, unfortunately, you're a bit at the mercy
of of the people in charge and I think that I've I've been getting producer credits on a couple of
my recent films which allows me a little bit more control and a little more insight into how things
but really no one really listens to you as an actor I mean I I think they'll placate you and it depends what position of power you're on on a set.
But the movie I'm referring to specifically
where it was like we changed the last third
of the entire film and you're just like,
okay, like here I go.
Like there's nothing I can say or, you know.
Did you enjoy it?
Yeah.
Or was it like painstaking to get through the end of it?
No, I enjoy it.
Look, I, again, I really have a very, I am so grateful to be a working actress that
I pretty much will.
Lately, I, I really stand up for things.
If I see people doing things that are not treating people with respect or not, um, not
being professional or, or really just not doing the right thing do you see that often um i've seen it
a couple of times where you're just like i think that we're forgetting that this is an office
right it's all fun and games because we're making a movie and that's oh my god we're making a movie
and we're all very excited but we don don't know what, this is a business,
there's a lot of money put into this.
It's not all fun and games.
Sure.
Like you can't just sort of like
piecemeal things together
without really following the rules.
You can do that a little bit
as long as everyone's on board,
but sometimes you see like a little bit of,
this is on more independent films.
Totally, I mean,
well, that happens all the
time yeah indie films are kind of just yeah you know you don't you like i showed up you show up
to an indie field sometimes you're like hey is there um is there an ad here that i can talk to
and they're like not no we haven't seen him in a couple days we don't know maybe yeah you're like
where am i supposed to go and they're like you can hang out in the kitchen if you want for an
hour and a half i mean that that's one thing that happens like that's fine I think
that's kind of fun yeah but I'm talking about like when people are just like as long as people
sometimes don't treat each other with respect and well that's a that's a common theme in our
business right so um but you know I just sort of go along for the ride you gotta like the but
if you if you try to control
anything in this business it's not gonna it's not gonna happen the only thing i think you can
control is when you make your own product and if it's all independently you yeah like you know like
this is great nobody can tell me shit i can do whatever i want i can speak to who i want yeah
i get interesting people that i want to get great stories out of and talk about their lives and their
career and like i don't have to worry about someone going,
you know what we need to talk about with them?
Like, I love that it doesn't, that doesn't exist for me.
But that is kind of why comics, I think, do podcasts.
I think it's why that's like a thing now,
because we need, like, there needs to be more outlets
for artists, creators, actors, musicians, whatever,
to talk shit or speak their truth
or talk about nothing at all. And it's still
kind of nice instead of like, you really are kind of worried whenever you work on a job. Like I did
a sitcom for ABC and I remember them talking to us pretty diligently about making sure our Twitter
was, and this is years ago, this is before how, how angry everybody is now about everything.
This is prior to Kevin Hart's Twitter. But I mean, they were just like, you know,
checking your feet and they wanted to make sure
that you weren't saying anything
that the mouse wouldn't like, you know?
And it was like, it's so strange,
because you're like, I am who I am.
But if you are gonna separate the person and the artist,
you're paying me when I'm doing your television show
to be that thing.
But when I'm done and it's my life and my world,
I should be able to do what I want within reason.
I'm not gonna say like, you know, I'm not going to start hate groups online.
But I mean, you know, you should be able to kind of be who you are.
And I think there's a weird restrictive nature of the business that likes to keep you in
this thing that's like, you know, you still are kind of a representation of Universal
Studios.
So you have to kind of do that.
It's a little strange, right?
Right.
Only when you're old and you're living in Vegas
or Palm Springs
and the guy from Variety
comes out to interview you
and you're smoking a cigarette,
I can see you now
on your patio
and you're angry as shit
and you're talking shit
about all the actors
that you work with.
I can say everything.
I can say all the secrets.
You're like,
you know who is a real bitch?
You just go off on tangents
about who you hate.
You know what film
I hated the most?
Yeah, yeah.
I'll tell ya.
You know who i
fucked one time that's i love i do love that when like old actors just let it all out it's like
oh yeah i was fucking him i denied it at the time but yeah who was who was it was talking about uh
um when richard pryor was high he blew who he blew someone or someone blew him. Oh my God. Why can't I think about this?
Why?
I don't actually know this.
Somebody,
somebody that just died.
And he was like,
he was like,
yeah,
Richard Pryor's like a ex-wife,
like confirmed it.
It was like,
yeah,
he was doing all sorts of fucked up shit.
He was on Coke.
He was on meth.
It was a fucked up.
It all comes out eventually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were all fucking him.
It was a gang bang.
You wish you could just tell
those stories now but you can't you could you could i guess it's at the risk of your future
work you might get you know you might get shoehorned into shit that you don't like you know
sure you maybe i mean maybe not maybe it's like uh let's talk about it so let's now we go to this
deep dive about nasty shit you don't want aired can we edit out all this no we have to leave all of it in um so you you um you weren't thrust into it by anybody but yourself which is kind of
interesting because uh i always think about that if you have kids you don't have kids i don't have
kids if you have kids i don't know if you do have kids uh if they said i want to be in the business
what what would you oh my god i God. I'd be like, no.
I mean.
You'd say no?
I'm not sure.
I would allow them to.
Look, I think it would have to be approached the right way.
I actually think, weirdly, it was approached for me the right way because I did ultimately make the decision myself.
Your parents loved the arts, though.
You were influenced by the arts when you were a kid, right?
Yeah, I was definitely influenced by the arts though. You were influenced by the arts when you were a kid, right? Yeah, I was definitely influenced by the arts.
But I actually think it's more of like,
I was just something I was drawn to.
I think emotionally, I think it was like cathartic.
I think it just was something that I was drawn to for,
you know, I love storytelling and all of that and reading. And it just was something that I genuinely wanted to do and I could have done anything I really did have every opportunity
on the planet to do privilege man that's I mean yeah I mean I you know I went to I really did
have a ton of opportunities that's awesome though yeah it's great but acting is what I
you chose but I guess I just mean like you were surrounded by art
and your parents are supportive of the arts.
Like if they took you to Broadway as a kid
and you saw that stuff, like that's what I mean.
Like when you have a kid,
and undoubtedly he or she will be influenced
if you do have children around your life and your world.
Yeah.
So they'll go, you know,
they'll know that that's a part of your life.
It's a better chance than not that they'll be into it.
Like for me.
It's such a tough life.
Well, for me, it was like the a tough life it well for me it was whole
it was it's like the way i see it because i was on the outside like dude my parents the arts like
no like going to see a movie was like the arts for my family so like you know like my dad's
favorite sitcom was uh andy griffith you know that's like all i knew you know what i mean like
that my dad still watches westerns and he like won't listen to music, you know, after 1964. So like there's just something about like I never was introduced to that world.
Actually, I mean, until my mom took me to see Phantom of the Opera.
And then I was like, I love this stuff.
Yeah.
I had a poster of Andrew Lloyd Webber above my bed.
You want to talk about a dork?
You want to talk about dork shit?
That's great.
I had an Andrew Lloyd Webber fucking Phantom of the Opera poster.
That's really, that's really then i
got upset i got obsessed with which is funny because i don't like musicals yeah oh i hate
them i really i know actors hate to hear that i fucking hate musicals most people do most actually
most actors love musicals yeah i loathe them okay but phantom struck such a such a chord because it
was so dark yeah i love And I love dark shit.
So Phantom to me was, it's Batman, basically.
It's like a different iteration of Batman, different story.
But I mean, it's this kind of dark, hero, sexy, evil, also good thing that coexists.
And I really love that.
How do you feel about Les Mis?
Everybody loves Les Mis.
I liked it. Yeah. Mis. I liked it.
Yeah.
Okay, you liked it.
Yeah, I did.
Okay.
But I think like the way
people like that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm a contrarian
and it bothers me.
Yeah.
When people are like,
oh, I loved it.
It's like, okay.
Okay, enough.
Sure, it was fine.
Like Hamilton.
I've talked about this before.
I don't give a fuck about Hamilton.
I haven't seen Hamilton.
I hate spoken word.
I hate spoken word.
And I know that that's bigger than spoken word, but like,
I don't need to hear about a man and a plant and the seat and the wall.
I just, it's so fucking annoying to me.
I hate it.
Well, hey.
And I'm also doing that because so many people loved it.
So many people, Hamilton, oh my God, the tickets are so hard to get.
It's like, you know when there's a long line for a cheeseburger place and you're like,
you know, there's another good cheeseburger down the street.
Right.
What the fuck is so good about that cheeseburger?
Yeah, it's mob mentality.
I hate that.
That's maybe what it is.
But I think Hamilton might be just objectively good.
Maybe.
Says who?
All right, all right.
I mean, everybody.
Yeah.
Every human ever loves it.
I mean, I haven't seen it.
I have a little bit of the same thing.
I mean, that happened to me with Breaking Bad.
By the time everyone was like, oh my God, you have to see it. I mean, I haven't seen it. I have a little bit of the same thing. I mean, that happened to me with Breaking Bad. By the time everyone was like, oh my God, you have to
see it. Sure. Like I had already, it was too many seasons in and I was just so irritated from
hearing everyone being like, you haven't seen it. Doesn't that annoy you when someone does that?
Yeah. You haven't seen Stranger Things? Oh my God. Alex, you're an idiot. How can you be an
actress? They get so mad at you for not seeing seeing shit what do you mean you haven't seen all the oscar movies please you're an actress this is your job half of the fucking uh
half the half of the movies that were just up for nomination now i didn't know any of those
fucking films like the like the chuck lorry film what was that called the kaninsky method oh i
don't know i never saw that my fucking i know i've been bouncing around new york city i haven't had
time come in skip can skip now i'm back in la and i'm hearing about all the movies and i i know I don't know. I never saw that in my fucking life. I know. I've been bouncing around New York City. I haven't had time. Kaminsky.
Now I'm back in LA and I'm hearing about all the movies.
I know.
But I'm bad.
I don't watch any of that shit either.
But that is annoying when someone says, how about this?
Let's name what's the one that you haven't seen that culturally people get really angry
at you about?
Movie or TV show?
Okay.
Well, The Godfather was one for a long time, but I just saw The Godfather two weeks ago.
That is kind of annoying
Because that's such a good movie
Yeah well
Now I understand
That's actually the one
Where I'm like
Okay everyone
I get it
I'm sorry
One two and three
I did
Well I stopped
In the middle of three
I mean what happened
Three's very very bad
Oh my god
But it was still
I looked it up
It was still nominated
For best picture
I mean
Well yeah because of
The lineage You know what I mean Oh my god but two wasn't as bad as people talk about
i'm sick of people talking about great a lot of people hate on it's different you can tell that
he was he had a little bit he was more confident totally you know what i mean like you can tell
it's all emotional like the first one is so and then the second one you're like he's like fuck
yeah he's got a little swagger well sometimes, sometimes you get. Prince George Coppola was like. Riding pretty high on himself.
Fuck, yes.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the film is fucking amazing.
What TV series do people get mad about?
Breaking Bad was the one.
Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones.
Hey, you know who's never seen an episode of Game of Thrones?
You?
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
No way.
Never going to watch it.
You're the same as me.
I'm never going to watch it.
Yes.
I mean.
I'm never going to watch that fucking thing.
I have friends on Game of Thrones.
I've seen, I've actually seen one episode
But I
It's obviously a great show
But it's just one of these things
I'm just irritated
It annoys me
It's like my rebellious side
Everyone's like we love Game of Thrones
And my dog is named
After one of the characters
and I'm dressing up as the,
and oh my God, the red wedding.
Oh my God.
I don't know any of these terms.
That's what's so fun.
All I know is there's incest in it.
That's all you know?
I mean, I know dragons shit.
I know who the, Jon Snow.
I know who the names are.
There's a lot of like sex stuff
and a sex stuff.
So old.
Mom. Exactly. You said sex stuff in this movie stuff so old. Mom.
Exactly.
You said sex stuff
in this movie.
There's a lot of sex stuff
in this show.
I don't think you guys
should be watching it.
Isn't that funny though
you find out your parents
are freakier than you thought though?
When you're a kid
like sharing kind of
talking about sexual stuff
or whatever
and then you get older
and you find it like
they're just you
they just were more quiet about it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
They're more private
I guess you should say. I guess. yeah i mean my parents are my parents are divorced and my mom's like wanting
to start dating and the other day she was like i don't know i mean these you know my mom's 68
she's oh because she's gonna kill me if i put whatever go for it she's gonna kill me so what
poor mom she's like i don't know like i need to start dating but like i just can't
imagine having sex with a 70 year old man and you're like me neither mom that sounds gross
you know it's like it's like wow it's like she's starting to date in her late 60s when did they
get a divorce a couple years ago congratulations yeah exactly huge exactly my parents got divorced
before i was one so the pain didn't hit me like friends that i have that got divorced before I was one. So the pain didn't hit me. Like friends that I have that got divorced when they were like seven.
Yeah.
And they're like ruined forever.
Yeah.
Like I have those friends.
But for me, my parents split when I, I think right before I was one year old.
So it doesn't have the same thing for me.
I actually, I think that I'm a big believer in divorce.
I mean, I think if you get married and it's not working out get divorced there's no reason to
to stay i like i think that's how long were they married for oh god a long time did they do they
are did they write their own divorce papers their lawyers no it'd be so great if they were divorce
attorneys both of them no they're not both their divorce attorneys. But they, I think that, you know, getting divorced when you see that it's the relationship's
over is better for the kids.
Well, yeah.
But it also helps when the kids are older, right?
Like you're older now.
It's easier than, I think it is hard.
Like I have a buddy that's getting divorced right now and his kids are nine and 12.
And that fucking sucks.
That's hard for the kids.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, the 12 year old's a boy.
So like, you know, he'll take it out on football or something you know right but the nine-year-old
girl it's just a weird awkward unfortunate time i think for her like oh it'll just set her up for
you know years of dating terrible men and she's already pregnant she's already she's already
she's already made some bad mistakes she's now going to repeat her mistakes over and over and
over don't we all no i think i look i think kids go through tough stuff either way i mean it is
tough but like you're gonna be bullied or you're gonna get heartbroken you're gonna i hope so
have you're gonna have all kinds of stuff happen to you it's all gonna be tough it's all gonna be
hard and we're all gonna turn out all right or we won't like i mean or we won't or we won't and then fucking sorry i don't know i mean i mean that's
a little bit like i just think i just think kids go through all kinds of tough stuff yeah and and
they just have to deal with it's better to get divorced than to be fighting constantly that's
tough too that's way worse yeah but most of the time secrets are kept. Secrets.
Like I know a crazy big, can you keep a secret coming out next fall?
That's right.
We'll just keep.
It sounds like a TV show.
Can you keep a secret?
Like a game show, like Steve Harvey.
It does.
Yeah.
Can you keep a secret?
I can just hear Steve Harvey going into, can you keep a secret?
He tells one person in the audience and they have to see if they can keep it for the whole
show without telling anybody.
And they win a certain amount of money.
But it's like such a good secret.
Yeah, it's so, they have to tell.
Oh God, I have to tell somebody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
In fact, part of the deal is you have to tell one person.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're gonna make that show, we'll sell that show.
Can you keep a secret?
Great, great, we'll call Steve Harvey.
Can you, you can't get a hold of him.
He's very busy. You can't?
Him and The Rock are the two busiest people in the world.
Steve Harvey does like nine TV shows. You're right, he is very busy. and the rock are the two busiest people in the world steve harvey does like nine tv shows you're right he is very busy him and ryan seacrest him seacrest the rock oprah
ellen there's oprah's chilled out though i feel only publicly but you got to know behind closed
doors she's doing a thousand you're right yeah she's a machine you're right like who makes a
magazine and puts themselves on every cover has time to take that many
pictures.
That's an insane amount of photos.
She's on every cover.
Well, do you think they just kept changing shirts and just did one photo shoot?
No, because sometimes they're in the garden.
I see when I'm at the grocery store.
Sometimes they're like, she's in the garden.
Sometimes she's like on a boat.
Sometimes she's like on a rooftop of a house.
Like it's all different places.
Right.
Maybe they just helicopter her around.
Just taking photos of her all day long
that's literally she's like all right it's time for my 9 a.m photograph and i do this for three
hours and then finally i get to go take a bath overlooking montecito or whatever that's right
heaven that she lives oh wouldn't it be nice it would be nice to have that kind of money
to go away away yes yeah i think about that all the time yeah because i like just
retire but i just would like to you know what i mean yeah santa barbara to me is kind of one of
those places where i think i might retire yeah oh for sure it's close enough you can get like a
like a little farm you can get like some pigs and some goats and some chickens pigs goats chickens
little cow i'd get one cow you can get one cow can't get more than one no and what about a horse then
they team up did you grow up riding horses no no no my mom would never like porcelain skin you know
and porcelain skin girls always seem like they rode horses when i was a kid like every porcelain
skin girl i knew rode horses my sister actually rode horses is she like does she look like you
yeah she has smooth white skin smooth
porcelain skin horse girl every time every girl in school that i knew that was like pretty and
had porcelain skin i was like she rides a horse yeah no my mom was like way too scared to allow
me to ride a horse i think smart that's an insane idea to get on that animal yeah she didn't want
her kid on a horse when i see cops on horses i'm like we have cars yeah why do we still do that yeah i mean let
and horses are like you know let them go run around in the fields yeah i never understood
that i get like i'm not a big animal rights activist i mean i believe i'm not i'm not
obviously the other way but like something about the horse thing bothers me so much when i see
people on horses i'm like what the fuck are you doing on that thing I feel like it just adds an extra like hurdle
to actually
stopping crime
like you have to like
you have to like figure
you have to make sure
your horse is calm
you have to get off the horse
make sure the horse
is not going to run away
that everything's
I mean
I make one cut
and the horse can't keep up
right like you have to like
worry about the horse
when you're actually trying to
you know keep
keep it
keep
keep crime
keep your city yeah keep it keep crime keep your city
yeah keep crime at bay
keep your city safe
that's what I'm gonna
write us
I'll write us a cop horse
horses on cop film
will you do that with me
yeah and then
the lead character
the cop
he like
they assign him his horse
but his horse is like
not that well behaved
and he's like
guys I really
I can't
I see it now
I need a different horse
and they're like
that's your horse officer that's're like, that's your horse, officer.
Officer Smith, that's your horse.
Deal with it.
And then it's just him and this horse going on their shenanigans.
And the horse is constantly getting him into trouble.
I love this.
You're a straight-laced cop.
Your horse is wackadoo nuts.
It's putting the cop buddy comedy on its head by making one of them a horse.
Yeah.
I love that you keep looking.
He's making sure we're okay.
Okay.
He has to do that.
It's for legal reasons.
Okay.
There's a guy you guys don't see that's constantly coming to the...
Every time he comes in, I'm like, is it over now?
Is he telling me we have to stop?
He's signaling we have to stop.
I control it. He's making sure we have to stop. I control it.
He's making sure the camera's still good.
Got it.
Which is so funny though.
People who do that every time he comes to the door
and they're like, he like pokes his cute little head, you know?
Yeah.
He's very cute though.
He's very sweet.
Very cute.
He's foldable.
You know, I carry him with me.
I can fold him in half and I can throw him right on my back.
That's great.
186 pounds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do people give you weird looks when you walk around like that?
They shouldn't.
No.
This is America.
That's right.
I should be able to do whatever I want if I'm gonna carry a nice young man.
If I'm gonna carry a grown man on my back.
Yeah, I should be able to, right?
People better not judge me for it.
But they will, but they shouldn't.
They will, but they should not do that.
That's right.
No more judgment.
Let's say it like that.
So let's talk about this.
You voted for Trump and many people know that did you see this picture
of fucking Trump
feeding the Clemson football team
do you know anything about this
no I don't
it's hilarious
so Trump fed the
Clemson national champion football
college football team
he had him over at the White House
to have junk food
he literally bought like
a thousand cheeseburgers
900 fries
oh I did
I saw a new
yorker cartoon making fun of this and i didn't understand the cartoon the new yorker making fun
of him it was a that's right um yeah i mean wow we can talk politics let me see no no we don't
what do i even say we don't need to i just think it's crazy that he let that he fed all these kids
shit food and you're like i mean i i think what's going on in politics
is just so remarkable to me i mean it's like we're all becoming desensitized to nonsense which i
think can be good in some ways but kind of like a little bit too much i mean i i uh it's so baffling to me and it's
that i i'm like i'm rendered speechless on a daily basis you should be and nowadays too
especially in like in our in our game in our business is like nobody really wants to talk
about it people like to talk shit online but nobody really wants to talk about it
but i but i think it's just like it's so the whole thing is so fucked up like twitter has become this political pundit space
where like people used to think we're like just fun or funny or cool are now like on this rant
all the time about trump and all this shit and you're like man i wish twitter was fun twitter
used to be like so fun and now every time i open it up it's so sad like everything is like global warming
shit about trump shit about politics something negative that's going on i'm just like oh my god
i mean it's remarkable how much the world's changed in 10 years and when we just think about
how we're all interacting and obsessing and and the way that we socially interact and like i have
all kinds of thoughts on you know how phones are you know really fucking
up our heads in ways totally really don't understand and plenty of other people do too
and there's been plenty of articles written about it but like the the just the constant
communication we have and the constantly being available and and um and being able to voice our
opinions and discuss them immediately with other people.
I'm not so sure that it's that healthy for us at a certain point.
I feel myself shutting down or being really focused on, you know.
And I have all these relationships with people who I care about, but who I'm not seeing face to face.
That's why I set this up, by the way.
Yeah.
Because I knew you wanted to say hi to me face to face.
Yes, it was time.
I really miss him.
I really want to see him face to face.
But yeah, I mean, it can't be good to be on Twitter
and just like obsessing over politics constantly.
But what else are we going to do?
I mean, the whole thing is so, so crazy.
It's fun to get involved.
It's fun to get involved though,
because it's something to do. You know what I mean? It's like is so, so crazy. It's fun to get involved. It's fun to get involved, though, because it's something to do.
You know what I mean?
It's something that fills your day with shit.
It's just water cooler talk that you didn't get from the news last night.
Yeah.
That was the generation before us.
Just like what you saw on the news or read in the paper, that became water cooler talk.
Now, Twitter is water cooler talk.
Yeah.
What's the new conversation?
Right.
Let me skip sideways, though.
What I wanted to ask you about the Trump stuff is, what is your favorite fast food?
Because he had all this cool fast food out.
I want to know what your go-to is.
What's your sneak?
I don't eat a lot of fast food.
Yeah, but you got to have one.
I like McDonald's chicken McNuggets and I do like Jack in the Box.
Although I'll be honest, I haven't, I'm basing that off of one drunken meal I had six years ago.
Last time you had fast food was how long ago do you think?
No, I had McDonald's.
I went to Japan to shoot a film at the end of not 2018, 2017,
which is now two years ago.
Nuts.
Nuts.
And like in adjusting to the food in Tokyo,
I just didn't adjust. No?
Well,
at first.
Oh,
I love,
I love their food.
Yeah,
no,
the food is amazing.
I just was working so much that like I was grabbing to,
like it just wasn't.
So I just ate chicken nuggets.
In Japan?
Every,
yeah,
every night.
And they're cuter over there for some reason,
the Japanese chicken nuggets.
They're tinier.
And they're better.
They're just better.
They really are better.
Yeah.
I had fast food in Japan once
because I was on the run.
Yes.
What kind of food?
It was breakfast.
It was like fast food breakfast.
Yeah.
Not like a traditional,
not like a McDonald's,
but it was like a fast food
to-go breakfast type of thing.
Right.
And it was terrible.
Well, that's what we had
every day on set.
It was like American
fast food type of shit
and I was like, this is terrible. Oh, that's what we had every day on set. It was like American fast food type of shit. And I was like, this is terrible.
Oh, the Japanese fast food stuff is like rice wrapped in seaweed and like a miso egg.
Yeah.
And that's what I'd have for breakfast.
Nah.
And it would just be to sustain me.
See, I like, like when I was like, I would just, if I could, I would wait to get noodles
or sushi or.
Yeah.
If I could, I would wait to get noodles or sushi or hey, I love goiza.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I love, oh yeah, goiza, goiza.
I went to this goiza place.
Dumplings.
Dumplings, yeah.
And they give you a bag with all sorts of fun stuff mixed in there.
And then you put them in yourself and mix it yourself.
Oh, that's so fun. And so it's so cute like walking around the street with your little bag of goiza and you're and i was so happy
i was like a child yeah it was so nice i never got to do that oh there's a couple of places that do
it um i mean a couple of places that do it that i knew when i was staying in uh shinjuku yeah yeah
yeah i'm thinking about the train stop Shinjuku The way they say it
That's right
Yeah and they had it
Right around the neighborhood
And it was
Beer loves goiza
And you would get
A little bit of
You know a pint of beer
And then you'd get
Your little bag of goiza
And walk around in the street
Next time I go
Japan's the illest
I fucking love
Oh my god I love Japan
I can't talk about it good enough
No I love it
It's like of all the places
I've been
That's the spot where I'm like
I had some magical times in Japan
Did you go up north Or were you just in Tokyo I was in Tokyo Only for this film But I had been that's the spot where I'm like I had some magical times in Japan did you go up north
or were you just in Tokyo I was in Tokyo um only for this film but I had been on vacation like a
year prior and I went to uh Osaka Kyoto and Hiroshima awesome mm-hmm that's awesome it's a
great place yeah it is it really really cool you know it's an island can you believe that I know
isn't that nuts yes it's
nuts i love when people say that to me when they talk about it when they give me something obvious
when they're like you know it's an island i'm like yeah definitely what do you what yeah of
course of course what do you mean whoa well it's like out on its own isn't that crazy doesn't that
feel weird that you're like out and like out in the middle of nowhere you're like not really i
mean if i gotta go i gotta go like i have that perspective now i used to get scared of like traveling and now someone's like that's so remote it's so like in the middle of no isn't
that crazy i'm like dude if i go then i guess i go fuck it yeah i'd rather go i'd rather die
in bali on vacation than hit by a car on labrea you know like fuck it sure like if i'm gonna go
like i'd rather go in some weird exotic way
they're like he died of the a hurricane swept through indonesia and he died it's like that's
terrible but also like i don't know he's out there doing his thing that's kind of fun
right yeah no it's true it's true it's good to be adventurous you don't want to die near home
you don't want to be afraid yeah you have to seize the day and go do things even if there's the risk of death
oh yeah i think it's the risk of death is way more fun that's right i think it's way for skydiving i
i don't that's i don't have that much that's foolish that's a foolish decision or squirrel
suits you know the squirrel suits have you seen people do that yeah it's the dumbest i mean are
you really enjoying flight that much it might be that it might be that good though i just don't i'll never know i would prefer to
just watch i get as much of a thrill watching 90 day fiance on the couch i just talked to someone
about that for hours yeah it's one of my favorite things on earth oh it's just so sad no one else
likes it because they say it's too sad it's sad sad, but that's kind of why I like it. I know. I think I'm a sick, twisted human being.
Everyone's like, I can't watch this.
It's too sad.
I can.
And I'm like, oh, well, I'm fascinated by it.
Yeah.
Well, I think there's only one couple that's actually in love.
Which one?
With a Russian girl who has the baby.
They had a baby.
Oh, I'm not.
I haven't.
I don't know that that couple i'm
sorry i don't want to blow up your spot i know i know i need to get caught up i i've been like
watching youtube videos of colt and larissa yeah that looks disturbing the vegas couple
colt is vegas he lives with his mom yeah that's right very very sad but like on FISA was my jam for a while. Totally. Totally. I mean come on on FISA.
Come on. I mean
come on. Come
on. I mean the
two of you.
It's just like. It's a great show.
It's a great show. I like. I like. For people
who don't know it's Americans
who meet someone from a foreign country
either online or while they're on vacation.
Almost always online. Right. Almost always online.
Right, almost always online.
And then they bring them over
for a 90-day fiance visa to America.
And it's like, obviously, the majority of the time,
these people are looking for,
they wanna become an American citizen.
But the American just is in complete denial.
See, I don't know if it's denial or if it's acceptance that this is their reality.
Yeah, I mean, I get that.
I've certainly done that in relationships before.
I'm like, this is not great, but it's easier than...
It'll do.
It'll do.
Yeah.
What's the longest you've been in a relationship that you didn't want to be in?
Oh, God. Years. You stayed years relationship that you didn't want to be in oh god years you went you stayed years in something you didn't want to be in i was in a
long-term relationship where i stayed i probably stayed two years longer than i wanted how long
was it in total six six years of four good and two sad yeah that's a long fucking time to be sad
yeah i didn't really know how to get out of it
and then i've done like a couple months here there but i'm i'm always willing to give things a chance
you give everybody a chance everyone that comes knocking you're like come on and we'll figure it
out i think it's partially my career it's like you know sometimes i'll be like i don't know that
this is gonna work out like right am i gonna have children at any point and then you know you go away for three months to do a phone you're like
i can't deal with this right now right do you do you um do you want to have kids is that something
on your doctor yeah i would like to have kids i think it would have to be with the right person
in the right situation i think it should be with the wrong person yeah i mean i could just like go
get pregnant and just sort of figure it out.
Do it.
I'm not sure that that's.
Do it.
I'm not sure.
Just fucking wing it.
Just wing it.
Just see what happens.
It's just a life.
It's just a life.
No, you do want to eventually though, right?
I would like to, yes.
Would you, would there ever be a scenario where you could meet a guy in 90 days and
fall in love with him?
Like that show.
Do you really think that could
happen um i'm sure sure i could fall in love in 90 days but that doesn't mean that you know that's
a long-term right you know long-term viability you got to go through some tough stuff together
you have to go through shit first you have to go through shit together you have to get through
stuff you have to get to really know each other you have to like really like see your own resiliency there's like i think men sometimes get freaked out if
something bad happens but i like bad i mean you know it's like as long as no one's like
like throwing shit against the wall or screaming at each other which i don't believe in i think
that that if there's a
disagreement or like especially with long distance which i deal with a lot like an argument or
a little bit of stress like if you can get through that like i think you come out on the other side
better yeah but i think what's the shortest relationship you've been in uh oh i've dated
people for a couple months you know
but then it's not really a relationship what about like a week has there been a guy that
you had a did you have like a like a fling for a week for a week and you never talked to him ever
again um no i mean i've i've no i mean i've dated people for like twice you know yeah yeah yeah um
but never one of those like,
I romanticize about those moments that people have.
My very romantic, intense encounters
have usually, we've been like,
all right, let's do this.
It's gonna work out.
We're so in love.
And it didn't.
Well, then you see that there's real problems.
Like you see like, like okay we might be in
love and have all of that chemistry and really get along but it's like is this really practical
no no yeah probably not long distance is your typical thing though long distance are you in
long distance now um sort of yeah i mean i i uh i'm dating now, but I don't have a boyfriend.
But the long distance just makes it hard to build.
Totally.
And it makes it hard to, when there is a problem, to really deal with it head on.
And I think, you know, at least the men that I, for whatever reason, choose to date, there's like a, the long distance thing does not suit.
Yeah.
I don't know that it suits anybody, though.
No, I don't think it does.
I mean, I'm currently, I'm married to a woman that lives in Alaska and I never see her.
So it's kind of working out.
Is that true? No. That's not true. No, I didn't think that was true. Does not live in Alaska. That's insane. Yeah, that would be a crazy thing.
Yeah, I know. My wife lives in Russia and I see her once every nine years.
Look, it's nice that you guys are so committed to each other.
Yeah, it's kind of cool, to be honest with you.
For me, I kind of like the idea of like, let's just get married. And then
the long distance is part of our lives. Let's just sort of like not make it a thing
yeah if you can if you can that's a hard thing never and never it's always you rely on each
other too much yeah but you're an independent woman and it's 2019 you're gonna do whatever
you want becoming less independent with every year good let's keep when i was younger i was
like i'm gonna be this independent woman i'm gonna make my own money i don't need anybody i'm gonna be successful on my
own that's the only way to survive as a woman in this in this world of patriarchy where men are all
terrible is you have to pull yourself up and yeah i'm not taking money or anything from anybody
and now i'm like why did I do that?
Yeah, it'd be nice to get some help.
Yeah, I'd like to get some help.
I would like some financial and emotional assistance.
I've done it on my own now.
I've proven that to myself.
And now I'm prepared to have somebody just come
and help me with everything.
Turns out it's nice to have somebody.
That's correct.
Well, that's good.
You know what?
This is actually a live dating video video we're taking requests now so we'll
send you all the emails dm me yeah open that door of nonsense no yeah you said it um do you want to
plug anything right now we're gonna wrap up sadly but do you want to plug anything you have coming
out that you want people to watch i don't have anything to plug that's coming out immediately
um later this year i have a couple films coming out cool i think everyone should keep track of
them i really we have always lived in the castle is excellent um we have always lived in the castle
we have always lived in the castle based on a shirley jackson novel which i also recommend
read we summon the darkness is a film that will come out and can you keep a secret all
very ominous all very ominous titles very ominous well i love it i love it i'm gonna see them i'll
see all three of them great in a row i'll buy one ticket though and i'm gonna go i'm gonna movie hop
how dare you yeah that's what we do movie fraud i movie hop that's what i know not anymore sadly
but when i was a kid my parents and i would movie hop yeah it's like one of the
coolest things in the world
to do with mom and dad
no I think
I think that
yeah
movie hop baby
I've never done that
with my parents
yeah
I'm gonna do it
with my children
yeah you should
when I
when I go out
and get knocked up
on my own
independently
yeah
with a guy that
you'll never talk to
ever again
that's right
that's what we're learning
yeah
all right great
thank you so much
I'm glad you came
thank you for having me.
For me,
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Go see me in San Antonio.
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Good luck.
Whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk.
You are that creature in the ginger beard.
Sturdy and ginger.
Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse.
Gingers are beautiful.
You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse.
Gingers are hell no.
This whiskey is excellent.
Ginger. I like gingers.