Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Ashley Benson
Episode Date: September 4, 2020Santino sits down with the prettiest of the little liars, Ashley Benson to chat about smoking weed and making music with her boyfriend G-Eazy, falling in love with NY and taking the train to Yankee ga...mes and taking too many chocolate mushrooms and disappearing into your own mind for far too long. ORDER SOME MERCH!!! https://www.andrewsantinostore.com Join our Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/whiskeygingerpodcast Go to www.andrewsantino.com FOR ALL THINGS CHEETO Go to www.theovon.com for all things RAT KING SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! BLUECHEW! - Keep your engine running longer and harder without leaving the comfort of your couch. Delivered to your door! Go to https://bluechew.com Promo code WHISKEY and your first order is FREE!!! Follow Santino on Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Whiskey Ginger Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast/ & https://twitter.com/whiskeyginger_ Whiskey Ginger Clips: http://www.youtube.com/c/WhiskeyGingerPodcastClips EDITING AND PRODUCTION DESIGN BY THE AMAZING WHISKEY GINGER TEAM JENNA SUNDE https://www.instagram.com/jenna_sunday/ JOE FARIA https://www.instagram.com/joseph_faria Y&S https://www.instagram.com/youngandsick/ Intro Music by Rocom: https://www.youtube.com/user/RocomTelevision BLUE CHEW - Have better sex at the drop of a pill without leaving the comfort of your house. Get blue Chew delivered to your door and knock boots again and again and again https://bluechew.com/ Promo code WHISKEY for first order FREE!!! Just pay for shipping. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ginger.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest
today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that for all my guests, but I
mean it once again today. It's Ashley Benson.
Ashley. Hello. Cheers.
Cheers. Clink. You're gonna
keep the glass. Oh yeah, I'm keeping the glass, but you have to go down.
No, no. See, I don't go down.
I was told that if you don't go down the glass we have to go down no no you see i don't go down i was told that i never go down i never go down no i always i always you're supposed to take you make
eye contact i always go up oh yeah so my guy got down here that's good luck i'll have better sex
though because i went down and you didn't like the eye contact doesn't really mean that much
better sex for who though do you know what i mean if you don't go down if i don't go down
and you go down that's on you that's all your shit that's that's on you not me wait but you always
tap do you always tap no i just recently learned this like the past like six months that you that
i learned in europe so i was like in paris and everyone's like you have to go down i was like
all right that was eye contact thing but now i i get it wait a minute when you were when you were
in paris were you living there?
I wish.
Last time I saw you though, you were going to London and then Paris to do like a campaign.
Uh-huh.
And you said you were going to stay for a while.
I was supposed to stay.
I was going to be shooting there for like six months.
And then that didn't, it just didn't work out.
So I was really excited to do that.
But shit happens shit happens but dude
i want to be in europe right now are you kidding me we can't even get there which sucks i know
i know you can you can get on david geffen's yacht you can get on the yacht dude can you get
yourself on the yacht i'll make a couple calls yeah make some phone calls i'll call some dudes
let me call kanye and see if you can get us on the yacht um wait actually that's a good question
if you could be anywhere in the world right now during the pandemic where would you
want to be i would i wouldn't i think i'd want to be in italy i don't know italy is my literally my
one of my top i talk about it on this show way too much but i think i had when we went to sicily
a couple years ago was the most fun time i've ever had in my life in my life i'm serious rented
mopeds yeah it's amazing got wasted went all over the place
found myself at like random beaches we didn't belong at ate dinner at someone's house it was
so cool it's so nice just as like it's you just they feel they make you make it feel like uh they
live like that all the time and i assume they do it's just so free and fun and loose and i don't
know people's people's attitudes towards things are so different
there here we're much more um pressed for time and annoyed and angry and i feel like there they
just don't really give a shit and you can't they can't during the day they chill they drink wine
all day long like and like you said like you went to someone's house for dinner you can meet someone
on the street and they'll literally invite you over it's what we have like a fucking amazing
like pasta and like all the wine.
It's just Tuesday for them.
Yeah.
It's every day for them.
I know.
It's casual.
If I could be anywhere though in the world right now, I think I'd be in like the Maldives
or something.
Or like Bali.
Bali.
I'd want like if I was going to be trapped somewhere.
I've been to Maldives.
Yeah.
You've been to Maldives?
So nice.
That's where I think I'd be trapped right now during the pandemic
I feel like if I was
gonna be totally stuck somewhere
might as well be on an island
yeah baby
we're not doing
we're not working
we're not doing anything
are you
do you have stuff in the can
that's gonna come out
during Pandy
I have one
well not
well I mean fuck
who knows how long
it's gonna go on for
I have one film I finished
called The Birthday Cake
that will be coming out we're
supposed to do like toronto film festival all that stuff but who knows with all that yeah um
we'll see when it comes out but i have like four things lined up that i'm gonna do
just kind of depends on this whole thing yeah i know i just wrote like um i just wrote two films
um and one of them i hope is going because it's based off the pandemic and like the situation
yeah and um i got like super stoned one day and just had this idea can you want to share it or
no don't share all right fine because it's really good and like i'm gonna try i my my goal is to
film it end of september um and everyone's quarantined and like the whole thing but it is
but it is based off
of how we're living
right now
and yeah
it's interesting
there's three people
in the cast
and it's really
fucking good
can you tell me
who's in it
can you at least do that
no
come on
no
come on
it's good
it's really fucking good
it's cool
but once
that's like
locked down
and ready to go
I can come on here
again and tell you
then you'll leak it back out to me yeah okay that's so funny that and ready to go, I can come on here again and tell you.
Then you'll leak it back out to me?
Yeah. Okay.
That's so funny that you wrote two movies
during the pandemic.
I couldn't even finish one TV show.
We're doing like one TV pitch.
I couldn't.
My brain has felt so stinted.
Like you don't feel creatively stinted at all?
I feel like I'm just kind of stuck a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like every day
is just like Groundhog's Day over and over.
It's like, what do I do today?
Okay, I'll get up, do this, do that,
make up some work that I don't have.
I do that.
I fake it all the time.
Oh, I got so much stuff.
I just talk to myself in the mirror
and do scenes that I don't have to.
Do you?
It's going to be a day.
You sing in the mirror.
I do a whole musical.
I'm like, I've done so much.
I've accomplished so much
by just like doing a full musical by myself in a room.
It's better than not.
It's better than not doing a full musical though, right?
You're making some effort.
I'm, you know, and look, I'll start taping them
and just be like, hey, I'm available to hire.
This is my self tape.
It's fine.
Yeah.
I'm ready to go.
This is my self tape.
This is my self tape for every movie.
Doesn't even matter if it's a drama.
This is my self tape.
Do you want to, what do you want to,
what do you want to start doing more of career wise people
that if people at home that are listening that have no familiarity with you fuck you just kidding
no you can't fuck you you should you should know you definitely should not what's the what what
what to you would be the thing you want to be known for um right at this point. Damn. What are you the most proud of?
I don't know.
I mean, my favorite thing that I've done,
the few things that I've done that I've really liked,
one of them mostly being Spring Breakers,
just to work with Harmony.
That was incredible. And I kind of want to go more in that lane,
just film-wise.
Turning off my phone, sorry.
I did another one called her smell with alex
ross perry elizabeth moss starred in it she's incredible um and i just finished one uh called
the birthday cake and that was like ewan mcgregor val kilmer don't know any of those people never
heard of him me neither i was like ewan mcgregor and val kilmer so fun how's val kilmer so i didn't
get to work with him but i just saw the trailer and um it was nuts
like this is first acting role since everything happened yeah and it's crazy i mean he's so
fucking good in it like he's so good and he's so dope man that dude is such a cool legend you know
like it's yeah but you guys didn't have scenes together boomer major bummer. I know. Abuma. Abuma. But what I want to do, like, because essentially the other movie I wrote, I'm directing for
the first time.
Yeah, what's up, girl?
So I want to go into directing as well as, like, doing everything else.
Sure.
But, yeah, just producing, directing, writing things, and just kind of making my own films
and, like, you know, limited series for myself.
Because even, like like given the time
it's going to be so hard for anything to be made at this point now like currently um so yeah just
kind of putting all of my creativity in like different kind of areas and seeing how i can do
it but it's worked out well so far um we just have to start working yeah production that's what i'm
worried about i keep going back to like i just want to start working yeah production that's what i'm worried about i keep
going back to like i just want to get back to the place where i feel like we can be um we can be
like in a schedule again i feel like everyone's kind of angry right now because no one has a
schedule and everyone's just like annoyed that they're they're in our business specifically
everyone's annoyed that they can't get like back on track so tensions feel higher for some reason
always like everyone i'm talking to is just like an ad everyone's an attitude yeah everyone's annoyed you're like all right well
then i won't call you anymore i just got i told i told i told uh alex he was hearing before this i
got into a fight with me and bobby lee got into a fight because our agents are disagreeing on
something and they're not communicating and it's like we're just trying to get something done but
everyone's just angry at each other and not listening yeah we're just fighting so it's never gonna happen we're just gonna fight for the next
we'll just fight this until it goes away it's that's been my whole life lately is fighting
it's so funny because like when you are working you're so lucky to be working and like the
schedules are fucking brutal like the fucking hours are just like god damn like i have no time
to sleep i'm over it but you have the best time it's what you do it's what you love and then the second you get time off you're like damn i want to go back to work i want to be working it's
like one day you're like fuck but now it's been five months like yeah we're done i'm ready to get
back i'm ready i'm ready to get back and not complain one for three years at least a year
give it give it two hours i think i'll give it one i give it a half a season and be like i'm out of
here dude
this is so annoying
well because I'm supposed
to film this FX show again
hopefully in
November I think
but I just
my money
if I'm a betting man
if Vegas was taking money
I would say
not till February
January or February
I think that's realistically
when everything's
going to get back to normal
but a lot of my friends
who are on shows right now
are starting
like in September
I know but that's
well are they shooting in LA?
No.
No.
See, Canada.
I heard Australia is shooting a lot.
I was with a dude the other day who's, two of his close friends are shooting a movie
together in Austria or something.
It's like, if they can get there, if they could get you there early and they quarantined
you and they're shooting with local.
Yeah, you're fine.
But now that we keep going back and forth.
Anyway, whatever.
But during the break, did you put something up on the internet?
Are you moving?
Are you moving somewhere?
I bought a house.
Yeah.
You're moving?
No, here.
This is like, how many, haven't you bought nine houses here?
You've moved like six times since I've known you.
No, I know.
That's the thing.
So like, well, A, my like, I mean, I guess now I have residents like here in New York,
but like my main spot was in New York for the last four years.
Yeah, for a long time you were there.
And I had a house here, but like I just never came here and didn't want to move back.
And like, I'm really bummed because I want to go to New York really badly.
Where's your place in Manhattan?
Yeah, in East Village.
Oh, the village.
I was going to guess Soho, but I'm wrong.
So I was in Soho first,
then I moved to downtown, and then
I bought a place in the East Village.
And I love New York. I miss
it so much. I miss the energy. I miss
walking around everywhere.
Can't do it now anyway. What's the difference?
Well, and that's the thing, too. It's like all my friends
who live there, everything's open, everything's out on the streets, the streets are blocked off. What's the difference? Well, and that's the thing too. It's like all my friends who live there, everything's open.
Everything's out on the streets.
The streets are blocked off.
Come.
God forbid something happens.
I don't want to be stuck.
And I also don't want to get on a plane right now.
Yeah, I know.
LA it is.
Yeah, you're stuck here.
And it's nice to be here though.
Because you can be in your house all day and not feel closed off.
No, look, it's a great place to be trapped.
If you're going to be trapped, it's not bad.
The weather's fine.
I've been just... It's so fucking hot though. Yeah, it's been too hot. I went to be trapped if you're gonna be trapped it's not bad the weather's fine I've been just
it's so fucking hot though
yeah it's been too hot
I went to this place
called ghost town
the other day
and it's about
three hours north
by Ojai
no that's too far
no like past death valley
oh okay
and it's this like
random place
and it's just a bunch
of shacks
and like these old houses
and when you go there
you think you're like
no one would ever be able to find where this place is it's in the middle of nowhere like
you go through the mountains and like you're just encircled like with just shit it was terrifying
it was so hot and they're like it's gonna be really cold like great like escape the heat it's
like 112 but at night was when you wake up at night it was it wasn't bad
but then driving back so i had to go back um last minute like really quick for work and we were
driving and the tire like blew out in the middle of nowhere and like on your car or no so i had i
had um someone pick me up to drive me back and LA. And because of the streets and the roads,
it was all dirt and rocks going up to pick me up.
When we were on the highway, the entire tire was fucked.
So we were there for an hour and a half.
They were like, no one can come for four hours
because I'm 50 miles north south, of any gas station.
There's nothing there.
So I get out of the car, and I try it.
I was like, oh, let me see if I can hitchhike.
Would never do it, but I was just like,
let's see how good people are right now.
What a bad idea.
Let's just see.
I have my mask on.
Let's see how I can get murdered.
But let's just see if people actually do this,
because I've never been in that situation.
I was like, let's fuck around with it.
Let's see.
One movie I'm doing that I wrote is kind of based on that like very small town
middle of nowhere kind of like trash girl and i was like hey let me do some character research
i called my producers i was like should i start like just filming random shit yeah they're like
yeah like do it sure so i kind of use that as just another thing to be like oh i'm working right now
i got stuck on the side of the road but i am working on my film did you did you hitchhike no no of course but i got picked up on
a tow truck and then he drove me the whole way back to l.a it was crazy and then we stopped at
mcdonald's like what'd you get i got i got a lot i got a chicken sandwich um two fries cheeseburger
big mac chicken nuggets a frappuccino.
How high were you?
I wish I was high.
I was like, I wish I was higher drunk.
That's such a pothead order where you're like, chicken, beef.
But I was like, bro, I don't know when, you know.
You don't know when you're going to eat again.
Who knows?
Who knows?
I could die right now.
Could you imagine, by the way, hitchhiking?
My last meal going out is McDonald's.
Fuck yeah.
Yeah, that's a good way to go out.
I always go breakfast whenever I'm there, every single time.
I've never, okay, so I haven't done their breakfast in so long. I haven't tried the little pancake sandwiches. It's the reason I's. Fuck yeah. Yeah, that's a good way to go out. I always go breakfast whenever I'm there. Every single time. I've never,
okay, so I haven't done their breakfast in so long.
I haven't tried
the little pancake sandwiches.
It's the reason I go.
Come on, the McGriddles?
No, I've never had it.
Wake up.
We have to go.
Those are the best.
Let's go.
They're so good,
it's unreal.
You feel your heart slow down.
Like you feel your blood
get thick.
It's the most unhealthy,
delicious shit.
I can't,
there's one,
there's stuff that I can't
give up in my life. It's pop that I can't give up in my life.
It's pop.
I can't give up Coke and McDonald's.
If someone was like, I smoked for years, years and years ago before we ever knew each other.
I quit smoking and I'll probably never smoke again.
That was easy to quit.
I pretty much have put off things that I go, oh, if it's bad for me, I should slow down.
I can't eat that anymore, whatever.
I can't get rid of Coke and I can't get rid of mcdonald's it's impossible i mean it's pretty
it's pretty impossible it's the thing that's like when i'm really bummed out i want it when i'm
really hung over i want it it's like if those two moments are in my life i need mcdonald's it's hard
yeah now we're gonna shoot to a mcdonald's ad right now how How funny. Zooms in, zooms out. No, but like,
to be honest,
it's like,
even in this pandemic,
okay,
first of all,
no one's really
going to restaurants.
People are cooking.
To go.
A lot of to go.
It's all fast food
and then I'm like,
damn,
what is,
I want to know
how much money
liquor companies have made,
cigarettes, drugs, all that shit.
I mean, there's nothing new.
You're just at home every day.
People-
I can tell you, liquor put out,
there was a report that I saw.
It's crazy.
276% increase in liquor intake.
It's crazy.
Yeah, it must be awesome.
We should've bought stock in booze before the pandy
because we're so rich right now.
Because people, well well liquor was deemed
essential right liquor stores were deemed essential yeah and you couldn't close gas stations because
for jobs and communication so people need to travel and get to their work so you can't close
down these things so people are going to eat and drink and go get gas and cigarettes and booze at
the gas station of their local stores and that's it that's the only thing that never stopped yeah
that's like the only thing that was consistent at least in my neighborhood too the weed stores weed stores never closed oh
weed stores well can't close them down do you do ease what's ease oh my god okay so i do this
because you know i love to smoke weed like to go to bed or have an edible it's great go to bed or
wake up or hang out or you know you know wake and bake hang it whenever really and like also for me
if i'm writing i i have to get high for me if I'm writing I have to get high
like that's just
it's nice to get high
and write
yeah it's really nice
like with my two
like partners
and it's not like
getting blitz of our minds
but you know
smoke some weed
then you're like
holy shit
like this works
yes
this is a cool idea
or afterwards
you're like
that was a terrible idea
it's either good
or oh my god
why did we the
zucchinis talking in this scene that can't be we have to wipe that out no that that is actually
like yeah pretty spot on yeah yeah but um no yeah i mean so ease is this whole thing it's online
they come to you within an hour ease yeah e-a-E. Okay. And you just pay them cash because they don't do credit cards.
But anything you want, anything you want, it's all there on this website.
And they just come to you, deliver it.
I get it like once a week.
Gummies, like even they have like bath bombs.
They have like every kind of like pre-rolls.
Bath bombs?
Yeah, everything.
I've never heard of that.
Then they have oils.
They have like crazy shit.
And I've just been doing that because I'm like,
I don't even want to go to a weed store.
So a friend of mine
is where I get anything I've ever needed from.
Which one do you go to?
No, my friend.
I'm saying he literally has,
yes, my buddy.
So he runs a company
and anything I've ever needed,
I just ask him for it.
So like I haven't been to a weed store
in quite a long time.
So if I'm like,
like lately I hurt my back um pretty bad my neck really
really bad and i'm trying to go to physical therapy for it and that's weird because of what's going on
how does that even work out not it doesn't that's the problem i keep rescheduling stuff because i'm
scared and then um i was like hey i i wanted to um i want to do like uh uh weed and cbd but with
also like relief stuff like balm and he gave me this stuff
and I swear to God
in my life
it's changed my life
I know
I sound like one of those people
selling an infomercial
I put it on twice a day
and it changes my
like my neck gets looser again
I'm not in pain
early in the morning
because I just don't want
to take pills
like
my doctor was like
do you want to take
do you want to take pills
and I don't take anything I don't take I don't even take Advil when I get a headache so I was like no you want to take you want to take pills and I don't take anything I
don't take I don't even take Advil when I get a headache so I was like no yeah I haven't yeah
I don't want pills I just don't like them unless it's like Molly and you know it's a totally
different story but then it's like no but I just don't want to take like Vicodin or I don't want
to take no dude I've never I don't I got like a really heavy surgery when I was 14 that's the
only time I've ever had Vicodin and then my wisdom teeth out
but did you like vicodin some people love it i don't remember some people hate it i was so young
see i remember how much i hated it if i tried it now and i felt away i just can't even try it yeah
you gotta get away from that and not that i would ever like do it but like you know like it's like
oh all right easy to get hooked i tore ligaments in my leg and i was on
vicodin i'm just too scared to try it i was like what if something happened yeah see that was my
fear what if i'm allergic to it or yeah yeah and that's the thing too like i'm such a hypochondriac
anything i put in my body i'm like but what if like weed i know i'm fine yeah but then you have
those scares like the other night i was watching this really fucking heavy movie.
And I was smoking a joint.
And then I had like a full like weed gummy.
And I usually do like halves.
I was like, eh, you know, I'm just going to go sleep. Let's go all in.
But it was the high that like you never want.
And I've had it a couple times.
Like you feel you're actually dying.
Yep.
And I'm in bed and I'm like, I was like, i i am about to die so i'm just gonna just tell you
like this is crazy and you always know like i was one of my best friends when it happened to her and
she was just like you know when you're just laying there and it's always like you just yeah you can't
stop moving yeah yeah it's like i'm moving because i probably can't breathe or i feel like i'm gonna
die so i'm just trying to adjust right how i feel my body because you think if you keep shifting yeah yeah yeah but it's like I'm moving because I probably can't breathe or I feel like I'm gonna die
so I'm just trying to adjust
right
how I feel
my body
yeah because you think
if you keep shifting
your body weight
you're alive
yeah you're alive
right
so I just start doing this
they're like
are you good
I'm like
to be honest
I'm not at all
no
I think I'm gonna die
no
I'm having a terrible time
right now
I wanna get in a spaceship
and leave everybody
yeah
I was in
we were in Phoenix
me and
a guy that was opening for me
on the road
and we smoked a joint
but I finished it.
Like we take,
he take a couple hits
and I just kept smoking it
on the way to the gas station.
I didn't need to.
There was no need
and it had hash oil on it.
I love hash.
It's great
but it was hash oil
and I smoked the whole thing
and it just,
some things just hit you away.
It hit me a type of way
and on the way home,
I was checking the pulse,
touching my neck.
I was getting really sweaty palms,
and then I was like,
all right, man, good night,
and he was like,
you're gonna go to bed?
It's like 11,
and I was like, dude,
we got an early day.
He's like, we're doing nothing.
We have nothing,
and finally I was like,
dude, I am so high,
I need to lay down.
He was like, oh, you're good, dude.
Come hang out. So I go sit on the was like oh you're good dude like come hang out
so I go sit on the couch
and it was good for like
that's what's really annoying
is when you
when you level out
and you're like okay
it was good for like 10 minutes
and then it spiked again
in my head
the worst
where I was like
no
and I went into the room
and I sat in bed
for two hours
watching like just
old movies
until finally
it just
you know when it finally settles
like the dust settles
then you feel good then you're like okay damn I actually go to sleep you know i can go to bed
eric the farrier yeah yeah a good buddy of ours one of one of our best friends um i'll never
forget he was we were in new york because he used to live in new york at the time and he just got
super high yeah and i called him i was about to come over to his house. And I just like have a couple of drinks. Like do whatever.
And he was like, I was like, hello.
He's like, I'm really high right now.
I'm really high right now.
I don't know what to do.
Like FaceTime me.
He can barely look.
I'm like, are you okay?
He's like, I got to tell you.
I'm like, I can't even eat.
I can't eat.
It's not supposed to fix it.
I was like, no.
Did you take edibles?
He goes, yup. Yeah. like i can't even eat i can't eat it's not supposed to fix it i was like no did you take edibles he goes yep yeah it's like edibles nothing will fix your high on an edible if you eat in my
opinion yeah it just makes you feel like you're still gonna die if you smoke weed from a joint
or whatever you can eat and i feel like i'm completely normal no i'm always fine off a joint
edibles do a different thing for me. It's the body high.
It's the body thing that messes me up worse.
And then the heart palpitations.
And I'm like, am I making this up in my head?
Or is this really happening to me?
I've called 911 before off of-
No!
Oh, yeah.
What did you say?
I think I'm dying.
That's the first thing they hear.
Because when I would open my eyes,
my eyes would roll back in my head.
But it was just because mentally, you just tell yourself that that's what's happening.
Right.
Well, you're not really dying, but also you're inducing more panic.
You can possibly die of a weed overdose from anxiety and panic.
I think if you could.
You can get yourself to a heart attack.
You could probably have a heart attack.
Yeah.
You probably have a heart attack from stress and stress and pressure on your heart for
sure.
But also I think the chances are probably unbearably slim have you ever done mushrooms a bunch those are my favorite if i was ever i'm terrified oh
my god i did them can i give you something can i give you one a friend of ours makes mushroom
chocolates i that's right i did them on accident that they were like
little um godiva chocolates because they were they look like godiva chocolates but they wrap
in that wrapping paper just like you know hide or whatever fancy and i you know i had a little
bit to drink and i was like okay i'm gonna have some chocolate i'm hungry yeah but i had three
i've never done mushrooms in my whole life I lost my shit I thought
I've never
I can't
I can't touch it
but everyone's like
mushrooms are great
it is great
but that's because
it was an unexpected high
so the only reason
I think that people
have bad trips on mushrooms
is when it's like
hits them out of the blue
or they took way too much
without knowing
when you go in
knowing what you're getting into
it's the best
my buddy got
my buddy had a bachelor party
in January in New Orleans
and we all took mushrooms and walked around and were drinking and hanging out and it
was so nice i mean because you know what you're getting into on the chocolates or you can like
so during the day if we took if we took like a half a half snap microdose yeah if we took a half
snap of of a piece you wouldn't you wouldn't see much, but you'd feel a little wavy trippy,
but you'd be more body trippy, like more like- But you're not like having a panic attack.
No, I wasn't freaking out. No. I mean, but at night when we got really, really, really fucked
up, yeah, I mean, I would see stuff because we were out of our heads, but I mean, I knew it was
coming. And I'd also done it, I don't know, maybe 15, 20 times in high school. And then in college,
I mean, I don't know, a 20 times in high school and then in college i mean i don't
know a thousand times and can you die from mushrooms no mushrooms is just basically food
poisoning really it's just the the fungus interacts with you in a way that's like it's similar to how
your body is trying to fight off food poisoning and i don't like throwing up either which i heard
that you do throw up sometimes i never take too much i've never thrown up on chocolates ever but
i've thrown up stems i've thrown up on you know i mean i never thrown up on chocolates, ever. But I've thrown up. It's just the stems.
I've thrown up on.
No, I mean, I've thrown up on.
I've thrown up when I've taken probably too much and it was foul.
If it's really foul, it's the gag reflex too.
Back in high school.
Oh, I know.
When you'd open it back.
That immediate.
So we'd have to bury it in peanut butter or something.
You should, let me get you something that'll be like a small dose that's the way you should do the venice chocolate is that what you're
talking about i know that i've had those before that's like a big craze and i don't know how
potent those are either i've never tried those ones but all my friends like those ones the venice
yeah you know it's like a chick in venice that does all that and everybody knows this it's like
comes from one person shut up i swear to god that's what's so funny i was like is this a company it's
like no it's like one woman who makes all this chocolate for everybody like our own weed lines yes money
on the side right now for pandemic well they or anything i mean it's gonna be hard and she has
mushrooms let's do acid i've never done benson santino acid i mean i would sell it and not do it
okay just to make some money on the side i did it once and how was it for you acid's not my drug
like yeah a lot of my friends really
like acid but i just don't have any interest it's cool it's an interesting thing that i like that i
tried but i i don't think i'll ever do it again it was not i don't i think i'm a guy the reason
i like stuff like mushrooms or like weed is because like it's a super engaging drug like
you can still it's like liquor the reason i love this is like we can drink we can talk you can still be a part of your world yeah acid for me personally was tough because i
was super disconnected like i was really in my own little space and i was if someone was like
trying to talk to me i was like it was uncomfortable it was just like it was very like digitized and
and i was like uh i don't want to talk i don't want to talk to you anymore i like i want social drugs me too i like social i like social drugs i don't want to be like in a
corner having a panic attack like ketamine like i knew a guy in high school that loved ketamine
he goes in a k-hole and they would see he'd sit and like stare at a pillow for like 40 minutes
and like they can't speak or anything i'm like i don't know what's fun about that no i mean unless
your head he's got to have him he's having fun up here, I imagine, but like. But then a zombie, like, to the real world.
Right, right, right, right.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, I always wonder, with that drug specifically, I'm always like, I wonder what
is going on in their mind, because they seem, even though they can't talk or move or really
do anything, they're having a great fucking time.
Yeah, some people.
If they like it that much, they wouldn't keep, you know, they wouldn't keep torturing themselves.
It was such a bad high, even though they looked like they were about to die.
They're like, woo.
Yeah.
They're having some fun upstairs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's hard to understand.
I'm like, I don't know what, I don't get it.
No, I don't know.
I just, I think social drugs have always been my, like, do you ever smoke or drink alone
or do you always have to be with somebody when you're doing it? Oh no no no
No. I mean I don't really drink
alone like I'll have a glass of wine or two
or if I really want to I'll be like yeah
fuck it like I'll like put on a movie and like do
that. I'll smoke alone a lot.
You will? Yeah. You prefer it?
No I don't prefer it but like I also
smoke I mean
I smoke all night
when I'm sleeping. If I wake up i smoke weed just because it helps
me go to sleep like my mind literally just goes so fast same that but now i just started the
these like the wheat gummies i really like and i can't even remember what they are right now but
they're watermelon like blueberry flavored they taste like the best candy you've ever had that's
dangerous what if you would i... I would keep eating them.
No, but I limit myself to a half.
So I do a half.
And then I do it right before I go to bed.
And if I wake up at like three in the morning, I take the other half and I'm out for the
next five hours.
It's great.
Great sleep.
Really?
I can't do...
I don't think I could do it.
I mean, I've weaned myself off of weed a little bit lately too.
Or I would smoke weed.
Yeah, see, I would rather just smoke.
If I'm going to get back into doing it again, I would smoke.
I'm going to have both on my bedside.
So I'm like, or.
So at any moment that you're ready to rock?
I'm always like, okay, I'll either smoke a joint or I'll just take a little edible.
Right.
It's just kind of how I'm feeling.
I feel it.
You know what?
I never, I just reminded myself mentally about, I never told you this, but one of your castmates
when you were on Pretty Little Liars, your cast mates when you were on pretty little liar
well not when you were on the show her brother was my next door neighbor michael bellisario did
i ever tell you that no he lived he lived literally next door to me and when i say next
door i mean like literally was next door to me and i would see him all the time i was just texting
with him we just had um we had drinks the other night i love him so much yeah he's he's a really
fun he's got he's got that huge uh that husky or whatever it is he's got that massive husky dog
which is like sometimes dogs get to a size when i'm like that's not even manageable
like it put it would pull him and you'd feel him like kind of fighting with the dog sometimes
and he looked like he was not struggling but like putting up a fight what was the dog's name he always used to yell it in the hallways akita akia or something like that um one of the two i know
the name but i've never met the dog sanita skidida kadida i don't know jamaica a room i don't know
what it was but anyway it was so funny because i we never really got around to saying much to each
other in that regard we would always say hello but i wanted to say we had a friend in common but
we never communicated it's so weird how like that's so you don't really you know your
neighbors but you don't really know your neighbors you don't and like that's the thing like i just
bought um this house which funny enough i just sold a house that i had bought like maybe a year
ago you bought a house sold a house same time yeah no. No, no, no. I sold my old house,
but then I just bought another house like back in April.
And your house now is where at LAX?
You're living right at the South terminal of LAX.
Yeah.
I'm like,
you know,
whoever needs me again,
like available for hire.
I'm just on the runway.
It's fine.
She's on site.
She's out.
She's right by the Southwest terminal too.
If you need me,
come find me.
Why did you want to buy a new house
why what was the
um
because you know
to be honest
I was like
I
you know
New York
just didn't
I've always wanted to live
in New York and LA
yeah
and um
I just fell in love
with this house
and it was actually
a cross street
from my house
that I had just sold
legit
shut up
yeah
and then my three best friends
are next door to me.
Wait, what do you mean living
in different houses next door to you?
We're all in one community
and we're all like directly
beside each other.
So like people I've known
since I was 10 years old
are my next door neighbors.
The person that you bought the house from,
did you know they were dipping?
Is that where you were like,
I'm buying this?
No.
So I randomly called my friend who lives in that neighborhood.
And I was like, hey, I want to buy a house, but I only want to buy in a certain area that's
secure, like a gated community kind of thing.
And she was like, dude, just fucking see.
And I looked randomly that day, went within the hour, and then just said, yeah coincidence that's insane got it which i didn't
think i would right and then it was just everything was kind of meant to be at that point right but um
i just always know i want to live in that area and then just have best friends live across for me
and just feel safe and like chill and like yeah you get to like
living like
it's like what
if you were in high school
and you know when you're in high school
and you're like
we'll all live next to each other one day
it's like this idea
but you're really doing it
it's a grown up sleepover
but you just go from house to house
and that's the other thing too
that's fun
is because
we don't really have to go to like
bars or anything
we just
sure
drink at home
our people
is it open door policy
with us yeah thousand percent no one's like have to go to like bars or anything we just drink at home our people are is it open door policy
with us yeah a thousand percent no one said no one's like uh just call text first you just walk
in i mean it's like it's like a set of seinfeld or something oh you would definitely text first
but if they came through and it was fine i'd be like yeah dude fucking my door's always open but
that's how my place in new york is it's open I have friends come through and her address is right here
we'll scroll it right below
if you ever want to just go
I'll give you my exact address
across the street
it's all that
she's on Avenue A
we'll scroll it right here
so you guys can just walk in
it's a three story walk up
you're gonna love it
take whatever you can find up
in the living room
by the way
there's some really good stuff
there's a Banksy
in the main hall
no but I
but I've always felt like
the open door thing was great
and I miss those days
because now
people have families
and it's like kids
and it's weird
it used to be
when me and two of my buddies
were living in West Hollywood together
we were literally
three blocks apart
from each other
so I just
I could walk over to his house
walk in
isn't it so nice
I know I miss it
yeah and the thing too
like where I'm at in LA
is just walking to like
my friend's houses
even though it's like
two steps it just makes me feel
like i'm in new york we walk like the neighborhood or whatever it is i that's what i miss like i
really miss you know going down to the deli and like knowing everyone who works there sure even
just having like the minute you wake up you get your coffee but even before you get your coffee
you have at least 500 interactions with strangers yeah you
just feel you know connected to something and like here in la in my opinion it's like you wake up
you do your shit you get in the car you drive somewhere you drive to work you do whatever
you're alone all the times besides where you're working yeah but in new york you're working and
also having interactions with so many people and i've met a lot of my but in new york you're working and also having interactions with so many
people and i've met a lot of my friends in new york by bumping into them on the street and not
knowing doesn't happen here and even if they're like i don't know you sit at a bar hey let's have
a drink and it's sketchy but at the same time like dude that's how new york is yeah here everyone's
quite closed off i would say well
you just have to be a little bit it's kind of like we're all in our you kind of have to function at a
different level because it's not i mean like our neighborhood is very walkable so that's great and
so it's just the community that we live in but i do feel like yeah i mean we strive for that i wanted
to get to a community that i can walk around in because it is tough but do you ever feel I mean
do I ever feel like
I just want to start
punching people
yeah
actually yes
I see people
I want to start killing them
that's just human man
that's me
I get mad
I've always thought about you
I know
I snap quickly
big bad temper
no but I don't hurt
the tantrums he used to throw
I wouldn't hurt
a fly
no
you know what actually
the only...
I've never seen you angry in my whole life.
You've seen me annoyed.
My whole life.
Since I was two, knowing you.
I met you when you were one and a half.
No, I met you...
How long?
10 years ago?
You met me at 20?
20?
I think you were 20.
No, 10 years ago?
10 years ago.
130.
Yeah, 10 years ago is probably when it was
just about
I think it's like 9
and your sister was a Laker girl
yeah
I remember that
we went to Laker games
your sister was a Laker
what is she doing now
so she
who cares about her anyway
no I'm kidding
what is she doing
no so now she's
she's married
boo
no yeah
good
she's married
she's
she has kids
she's a fitness trainer
she would be a Laker girl a fitness trainer. She would be.
A Laker girl to fitness trainer.
That makes perfect sense.
Dude, I want to be a Laker girl so fucking bad
just because I wanted to be there on the court.
I love the Lakers.
One of the things that fucked me up this year
was I remember exactly where I was
when I found out that Kobe died.
Yeah, where?
I was in London at this dog cafe
with my friend Liam.
What do you mean random like it
like he lives in notting hill and like we were um he has this amazing little pit and he was like
hey let's you know let her up but she doesn't go to this cafe we could have drinks there and i was
like oh dope like you can bring dogs inside yeah it's a dog cafe so dope so we would have the dog
like running around there's a bunch of dogs there we were having
drinks and then my friend britney was like oh my god kobe just died she's from south carolina
kobe just died what and i was i was really upset like i loved kobe so much and i remember just
like crying right then and there being like holy shit like there's no way yeah and in london
i think it was like like 9 or 8 p.m whatever time it was when they announced it here but
i i couldn't believe it and that started off this whole fucking year was i know i know he knew to
get out of 2020 it's like kobe knew he was like i'm out in january like him dying yeah and then
everything the whole world went to shit after that but i'm like it's like he got out before it got went bad it's so weird to think
about like literally after he died how much negative shit continued to funnel down our world
it's super weird i was uh when kobe died i was uh um i was just leaving my house i was literally
walking out my front door and i turned around to the old lady and i was like you're not gonna believe this i was like this has got to be bullshit like
my i thought it was fake i thought it was phony i was like this is some dumb internet bullshit yeah
your instinct is like internet bullshit internet bullshit internet bullshit but i could but it was
the weird and then the drive from my house down to the studio to the other studio it's not even far and it felt like hours because i just
couldn't get out of my head i probably should have gotten to an accident because i swear to god i was
i was like you know when you stare off and you're driving and at some point you snap to and you're
like holy fuck i think i have i've been have i been not watching like i went through six lights
i have no idea yeah because i've just in my head which i think is more dangerous than your phone
because like on your phone you're like people on their phone are usually trying to look and check.
When I get zoned out,
I will zone out and just keep driving
and space cadet through a bunch of intersections
because I'm used to being in them.
But yeah, I remembered how much I couldn't.
It was so, I don't know.
It was very surreal.
And it was just what?
It was just 824.
It was just Kobe Day here in Los Angeles,
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This is fucked up.
So I've always had just randomly like weird shit and like don't think about it at all.
So for example, like during 9-11, this is crazy to say.
What's 9-11?
What is 9-11?
What is 9-11?
What happened? what is 9-11 what happened so and at the time so i was in sixth grade i would have been about
10 10 10 is about 10 or 11 is sixth grade yeah something like that i was in high school so
but so september 11th was like when we you know you were going back to school all that shit and
like so i got to go on like this whole, little shopping spree at Mervin's.
You know Mervin's?
Ooh.
Mervin's shopping spree.
What'd you get?
Okay.
So I got my back to school clothes.
But I've always loved New York, and I had never been there.
And probably would never go there if I weren't in the business.
Sure.
Like, just didn't have any reason to.
And so while I was shopping i was like oh my god this
new york shirt and i swear to fuck like the day of 9 11 i got up at 5 30 in the morning to like
get ready i had my whole outfit picked out and my shirt was new york city but it was just the
twin towers shut up and i went like in my mom and dad's room to like go get breakfast and i was
fully dressed and then that
happened you had a twin tower shirt on the day and it had like you know it had the view of the
city but like the main thing was the twin towers the fbi is going to come uh talk to you in a minute
get flying fellas she's here like what the fuck and i you know i was i was 11 i was like how like
what's happening but then the other night like legit and not when he died but it was just funny
enough you were wearing a ko Kobe shirt when Kobe died?
No, no, no, no.
I was going to say, you're a fucking curse.
It was yesterday, or for his birthday.
But I just, it was Sunday night, and it was midnight.
I was just changing to go to bed.
And I was just, the lights were off, put on a shirt.
And like I went to the bathroom, and you know flipped the lights on it was the
24th that's kobe's birthday and i swear to god it was kobe and his daughter all over the shirt
and then had his number on the back i didn't even know i just picked a black shirt and put it on and
i was like fuck and so i wore it for the next few days never took it off the vibe like that happened
to you all the time sometimes you they got some people have that thing where i have like a weird i don't like
that that creeps me out like do you i don't know what the fuck it is do you ever have dreams that
turn into reality a thousand percent i don't like that you're fucking your witch
that's that that is that kind of stuff i have friends it's weird though i have really creepy
psychic things that you're like even if you don't believe in it you go that's i don't believe in it but like oh it happens a lot and i'm just like it's so weird that is very
that's very see i have nothing like that i like and to do like kobe and his daughter like are you
fucking kidding me at midnight like literally him his birthday like on the 24th and then it was mom
a day and like you know obviously you watched the game but like i didn't take the shirt off until before i came here to shower it's been six days what how many days
whatever how many it's been 10 days i'm not gonna shower it's mama time are you what do you are you
watch do you watch the nba bubble do you like that it's horrible yeah i mean i watch it because i
love basketball i think it's fun it's wild it's so the very first time that i watched the lakers
play you can hear their sneakers going across the court.
Yeah, I kind of like it.
It was like a fucking empty basketball practice.
Why would anyone want to do that?
If I was on a team, I'd be like, fuck this.
I'm not doing it.
Yeah.
There's no one watching.
I don't want to see people on a screen.
That's weird.
I don't.
It's so bizarre.
But they know there's millions and millions and millions of people watching it on TV
of course
but like
I just want to feel
motivated
to be like
you know like
I don't know
like their whole
drive is based
off of the audience
right like
yeah I think
there is something
missing
you're right
yeah yeah
fan interaction
does help
that's why
home court advantage
is a real thing
right
because you're
at home
the vibe
the energy
that they feed off of
I totally agree when you're in LA or anywhere,
it's like,
dude,
we're in our fucking city.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like,
it's great.
Yeah.
Yeah,
when Laker games are live,
they're wild.
They're like,
it's so loud,
it's so,
I mean,
but that's any home team.
Yeah.
It's just like,
yeah,
any home team.
Yeah,
any home team gets that.
It is weird that they,
that's not a thing
that you can feel
in the bubble.
It is strange.
I mean,
they pump in noise.
Some of the coaches are like, none of them are wearing suits.
I'm like, dude, like fucking wear a suit.
Like, come on.
You want to be formal?
It's a game.
Like, come on.
See, I think the coaches.
They're just kind of relaxing right now.
I think the coaches should wear uniforms.
I think they should wear jerseys.
I think that there was a girl in England.
I'll never forget when I was in college, I was in England.
And I never even thought about it to that point,
but she was talking about, because I love baseball,
and she hates baseball, and she was like,
baseball is such a stupid sport.
And I was like, no, it's not stupid.
I was like, it's a great sport.
It's a beautiful sport.
And she goes, no.
And tell me, why do the coaches wear uniforms?
And I was like, I don't know. I had never thought that managers in baseball wear uniforms. And I was like, I don't know.
I had never thought that managers in baseball wear uniforms.
They wear a uniform.
And I was like, that's the way.
It's so true.
She's like, no other sport.
No other sport.
And I was like, no other sport does it.
That's so weird.
No other sport.
Like a football coach doesn't wear a football uniform.
No.
And I was like, why do managers?
It's so dumb that they have to wear the uniforms.
And it made me think it would be so funny if every sport did that, though.
Like if a football coach had to wear the football uniform.
If a basketball coach had to wear some old flabby white guy with his arms in a shitty jersey.
Yeah, in a jersey and short.
I think they should, though.
I think it'd be funny.
It's very childish and clownish.
Like they should make them wear that.
Wear the jersey.
Put it on, coach.
I mean, look.
I wear Kobe's jersey when they're playing, mostly every time. I just put it on coach i mean look i wear i wear kobe's jersey
when they're playing mostly every time i just put over my shirt whatever you always put on it do you
what you put on the jersey when you watch you like i did i i wore it the other day like and then i
have like a bunch of laker jackets like um you're an la kid that's why or roll up yeah southern
california kid yeah yeah whatever um but lakers like you know
everything to me and um i still like i find myself wearing the jackets the last of kobe's game he had
the specific jacket that i bought for me and my dad i have that i wear that i have my like a benzo
like fucking you have a benzo custom custom jacket The Benzo custom Laker jacket.
Wow.
But I just, I love to like just be there.
You know, I'm like, if I'm in New York, I have Yankees.
Like I have like my whole thing.
Sure, you want to support it.
Yeah.
What's the best piece of swag you've gotten?
I don't ever get it.
Shut up.
No, I got a Yankees jersey with my name on it.
But I mean from the business, you've gotten some great swag over the years.
Have you ever gotten something that's ridiculous?
Like, I knew a friend that was on a TV show I won't mention,
and they gave them all rollies on a season.
Fuck you.
I swear to God.
And fuck your friend.
That's not true.
Yeah, it is.
If I tell you off,
I'll tell you off air what the show is,
and you'll go, okay, that makes sense.
Fuck that, bro.
But it's an extremely successful television show,
and they were, yes, it's a network show. I got But it's an extremely successful television show and they were, yes,
it's a network show.
I got a chocolate bar
for extremely successful TV show.
Yeah,
what are you kidding me?
I get water bottles and shit.
You know what I mean?
Like I've never got,
when I hear stuff like that,
I'm like,
that's insane.
Actually,
I've gotten
from this show,
Dave.
I get like blankets and shit.
Like blankets engraved.
No,
I've never gotten,
or like some weird like face shit.
I'm like,
I really don't know anything.
I got a cool gift
from FX
bless up FX
they were cool
for this show Dave
that I'm doing
they were cool
they did
they did something cool for us
I still haven't watched that
by the way
and I'm sorry
don't watch it dude
no it's just
I think they were cool to us
they're a cool company
but before them
I just
the only thing I ever got
was and when I heard
my friend got a Rolex
I was like that's
like damn bitch
we better be fucking
working with somebody else
yeah but they were
making money
network TV dude
cause your show was cable
right Pretty Little Liars
was cable
Pretty Little Liars
did you
do you hate that name
or like that name
Pretty Little Liars
I love it
Pretty Little
you're a pretty little liar
it sounds like a diss
but it's a compliment.
You know what's funny is when people...
How many years did you do the show?
Seven.
Seven years.
And it was big years of your life, too, because you were how old?
19 to 26.
That's wild, dude.
Dude, my whole fucking 20s were there.
I'm like, it's nuts.
But then that's the reason why I moved to New York, though, because I spent my whole
life basically from 10 years old to 26 on TV.
Yeah.
Besides like a few films here and there,
but I just always went from show to show.
And by the time I was 26, I was like,
you know, I still want to do TV, but limited series.
And I also want to like move out of LA.
I've been here since I was born.
Sure.
I have to live somewhere else.
And then I moved to New York like the day after we wrapped.
And everyone was like, you're never going to move there ever.
And I went there for three months just having like a little sublet in this amazing apartment in Soho.
Yeah.
And then I just never came back.
I didn't come back for four years.
Yeah, but that seems reasonable because you're from here.
So it's like you need to get away from the thing yeah you spent your young 20s here you
gotta get out of here and i took off work for two years i didn't do shit like did you travel did you
or did you stay in new york i stayed in new york i just wanted to just live a different life and
like not work in that realm like you know i was still kind of doing a little bit here and there
but i just wanted to take a break and just live in a place i'd never you know i'd been there so many times
for work but like i got to know friends and like make some of my best friends i've i have still
till this day and um just be a new yorker like yeah that was my dream and then when i finally
got the grids down i was like oh yeah i'll see like a tourist or
whatever you know oh yeah just go down that way it's right there like i like was so happy to be
able to give people directions in new york because before when i go there for work i was completely
fucking lost and then just being able to know blindly like i can you know get myself i love
that get my way through new York City without anyone helping me
or my phone
what about the trains
do you know all the trains well
I don't do trains
the only reason I don't do trains
that should be your bio book
I don't do trains
I don't do trains
I'm not trash
I've done it
yeah I'm a sucker for trains
I like to get high
and ride the train
I'm scared if I were to get stuck
I'd have a panic attack
and I'm filled with a bunch of people in one car and I can't.
I would just eat somebody.
I would just eat the fattest guy and there's always a fat guy in a car train in New York.
But also it's pretty sketch, but also seeing the people who are on the trains, I've witnessed
a lot of weird shit.
Yeah, the trains are, New York is filled with such nasty shit.
Chicago trains are not like that.
The Chicago trains have shit on them.
It's crazy chaos, but like New York, there'll be like a guy eating another guy's poop it's insane you're
like what how is it everyone people are clapping and shit yeah it's the weirdest shit it's it's a
circus but that's kind of why I like it it's great yeah that's why I like it if I go to like
when I used to take the train to Eric's house there it was oh it was always late night
taking the train back to Williamsburg and I loved seeing
how much chaos
was going on
but the only train
I will take
is to
a Yankee game
like just like
all the way
all the way
all the way there
and you know
it's like a 30 minute
train ride
but like you get
all the people
who are going to the games
you get like the drunks
you get whatever
it's like it's full
fucking entertainment
it's so fun
but god forbid
you're stuck
I mean
I would lose my shit
but I will be stuck
with Yankee fans
just because
everyone's like
on one
and it's like fun
yeah no it is
you're right
when I was in Boston
I was in Boston
for I think
it was for
I was shooting something
maybe I was shooting
my half hour
for Comedy Central
I can't remember why we were there.
But me and the old lady were there.
And we were taking a trip.
We went to Harvard.
We went to go visit Harvard.
I just wanted to see the campus.
I went there too.
It's beautiful.
I was like, I didn't go here, but I should have.
I went to Arizona State.
They booed me when I walked on Harvard campus.
Get out of here.
I just wanted to see it.
But we took the train
and we were taking the train back
to where we were going.
Another dude was wearing a Boston jersey.
And I was like, oh shit.
I wonder if there's a game today.
And we looked it up
and there was a home game.
And you know, she's so cool.
I was like, should we go?
And she's like, yeah.
We just jumped on the other train.
That is so fun.
It was so fun. And being on that train with all those boston fans look say what you will they boston
has some of the most fun fans no they get it well but if you got to be you got to be on their side
you know like if you're on the other side you're gonna get fuck you yeah fuck you that beat the
shit out of you but it was just so fun to go watch a nonsense game. It meant nothing to us.
It was,
it was Boston.
And,
um,
uh,
I can't even remember who it was.
It was,
uh,
another AL team,
but it was just nobody,
you know,
I'm a,
I'm a Cubs guy.
So I was like,
it didn't matter,
but it was so fun to feel that vibe.
It reminded me of Chicago.
It reminded me of like going to a,
taking the train to a game.
I want to go to a Chicago Cubs game so badly.
I'll take you.
Let's go.
When they come back, let's go. I've been to Chicago once when I a game. I want to go to the Chicago Cubs game so badly. I'll take you. Let's go. When they come back,
let's go.
So I've been to Chicago once
when I was 11.
I was doing a modeling job.
What did you model for?
I don't know.
You did a bunch of kid modeling,
right?
Yeah,
but I don't remember where or what.
What were you doing?
Like Marshall's catalogs and stuff?
No,
to be honest,
it's probably like a JCPenney thing.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Back to school no for
real yeah so me and my mom went there but it was just one day so they flew us in the morning and
then i worked and we slept at a hotel that night but then got on a plane at six in the morning so
i've never been back to chicago you've been there one last time i went to chicago i was at the o'hare airport there it is i was going okay so i went from
brazil this is fucked so i went from brazil to la for 12 hours to go to the golden globes
bullshit this year yeah after the golden globes i went back to my hotel at 12 a.m i landed mind you maybe 3 p.m la time that day from brazil right
and sao paulo time is went to sleep for four hours got back on a plane to go back to europe
and i stopped at the oh here airport and I was like are we where Home Alone was filmed
because if we are I'm gonna have a panic attack yeah that's where Home Alone was and I was in the
worst mood I was so fucking tired I was like damn like I like was just so over because I had just
been from Brazil the next the previous day Brazil to LA to Chicago to Europe less than 24 hours
nightmare that sounds like a nightmare so I I was exhausted. Had to do all
this shit. Like so
tired. And then the only thing that made me
happy, I was like, dude, Kevin McAllister
was here.
First of all. Running through that tunnel.
Everybody remembers that. And I was with
like my greed was like taking me
all the way to the airport. I was like, but this, but that,
but that, but that. And I was like,
I want Portillo's. Yes. They don't fucking have it there. Well, they don't have it at the airport. I was like, but this, but that, but that, but that. And I was like, I want Portillo's.
Yes.
They don't fucking have it there.
Well, they don't have it in the airport.
Well, I thought they would staple.
No, I know.
I wish.
And the only reason I know Portillo's is because it's in Orange County.
Yeah, we have one here.
That's because Dick Portillo moved to Southern California.
So that's the only way I even know about Portillo's.
It's fucking amazing.
You've had it in No C, right?
Oh, yeah.
Chocolate cake shake. We got to go back. We got to go. gotta go hot dog do you know what the secret is to their chocolate cake no mayonnaise no i swear to god bro they don't put fucking mayonnaise look at me
in the face they put mayonnaise in their chocolate that's disgusting it's so moist honestly that's
why it's that word moist i actually like the word moist when I'm talking about food by the way that's the name
of our acid company
that we were gonna make before
it's called Moist
we're gonna be selling
Benson Santino acid
it's called Moist
Moist Acid
if you guys wanna buy it
please
please buy it
we'll
I mean
we're not gonna tell you
where it's at
you can trust us
you can trust us
you can trust us
we've never done it before
we're figuring it out as we go
we'll do like whole ceremonies
and shit
yeah come over to the house we'll make it a whole fucking program come over to the friend neighborhood house it's only $100 You can trust us. You can trust us. We've never done it before. We're figuring it out as we go. We'll do like whole ceremonies and shit.
Yeah, come over to the house. We'll make it a whole fucking program.
Come over to the friend neighborhood house.
It's only $100.
Per hit.
It's really expensive acid.
It's very expensive.
$100 a hit.
Per hit.
Per hit.
But you know what?
You'll get to know yourself better.
You'll get to know us too
because we won't let you leave.
And know us because
we're going to rob you.
We really will.
We're going to rob you.
We're going to take you for all your money. And then we're going to film you. Yep. And we're gonna rob you we really will we're gonna rob you we're gonna take you for all your money and then we're gonna film you yep and we're
gonna put it on the show it'll be the end of the show fucking great show yeah i would people that
sell acid to kidnap people but it's fine yeah it'd be bad we'll probably be like yeah killed for that
yeah we'd be killed we'd be in trouble we'd be in trouble but it's fine we're you know we'd be
just figuring our lives out for other people for doing the greater good for other people. For the people that need acid. And for people that need to explore their mind a bit.
Yeah, to open up your realms, dude.
Tell me what's going on.
You can plead the fifth.
What's up in your love life, dude?
What are you doing right now?
Are you married?
Are you getting married?
What's going on?
I'm married.
Okay, so this is one thing.
Leak secrets, dawg.
I'm going to leak some secrets hey i've been i've been
well okay everyone says i'm married all the time that's just like a thing if i'm walking with
someone i'm married i know that's the joke i'm making people are like no no and she's married
it's like no but i am i'm married all the time which is like news to me you've been married five times apparently i'm i fuck with it i'm like damn like yeah i'm married
without the commitment yeah you're yeah yeah you're married on the fly no i'm not married
i'm not married i'm in a relationship i'm not married um i don't know about marriage to be
honest you don't want you guys won't get married no just me in general
like i would love to get married but i also i like i don't know i feel like sometimes marriage
is such a pressure right on relationship and like for me like how i am i love being
monogamous and like just like one you want the relationship yeah but the marriage thing is like no i would get married i think for me is i don't want to get married down an aisle have a big
fucking wedding all that shit you don't have to have that but i i gladly do in a courthouse or i
gladly make a commitment to a person without having the stress about being married yeah
i'll have both i don't i mean either yeah well it doesn't matter there's
no rules to it i mean also dude i didn't get married in a church i think you just figured
out the way you want to do it ever get married to get married in courthouse and then have a huge
party i did it we did in costa rica at a hot we rented a house on the beach but did you have a
fuck ton of people or was it no no no no it was no, no, no. It was just, it was fam. But that's how you should. It was the fam.
It was brothers and sisters.
And that's, that's kind of, well, because also I always felt the weird people being
like, why didn't I get the, I didn't want, I hate that shit.
If you're not invited, you feel a way, right?
Yeah.
I don't.
I don't, I don't care, but people do.
People do.
And so like, I know people who got married who are my friends.
I'm not invited.
I'm like, I'm fine not to be invited. Like, I know people who got married who are my friends. I'm not invited. I'm like,
I'm fine not to be invited.
Like,
I don't have an issue with that.
Yeah. It's just like,
I'm not as close.
It's fine.
But the stress of,
oh my God,
who the fuck do I know?
Who does my partner know?
Like,
and God forbid you don't invite them.
It's a fucking huge thing.
When they,
when they,
but when they say,
why didn't you invite me?
do they care anyways? No, they just want to to be invited they want to say that they invited me
yeah so i'd rather get married in a courthouse or literally get married in bed just the two of us
with no fucking anyone like that's it or just have a commitment and then a big party either way the
party is what you want anyway that's the that's the only thing like realistically it'd be like in italy here it is here it is what what city in italy where would
you get married if you're where would you probably positano positano positano but so listen to this
like uh pipes of the caribbean is like one of my favorite movies ever has nothing to do with italy
but caves okay caves i'll never remember i'll never forget this one cave
that i went to in positano you go in it i was in a canoe i went in with a guide it is all fucking
like blue purple all these lights fish everybody you're in a cave like all that stuff if i could
be if i could throw a party in a cave with everyone on canoes but then also set it up
like Pirates of the Caribbean
dude
you fucking got me
right there
so all you need to know
like pirate themed
all that shit
like let's just have
a fucking rager
in a cave
in Italy
and have all the wine
all the drinks
like do whatever
and then
if you've been to Positano
have you not
I have been to Positano
did you go to
On the Rocks what to On the Rocks?
What's On the Rocks?
No, I don't know what that is.
What is it?
You're horrible.
What is it?
What is it?
It's a club.
No.
It's called On the Rocks in the Rocks.
No, I didn't go.
On the edge of the beach and you go inside and everything is literally on a rock.
All the tables, all the benches, whatever.
It's a fucking
lit nightclub okay kind of cheesy yeah but again no no you're fucking in positon who cares who
cares and also i spent so many nights i was like dude this is fucking epic but that's where i want
to get like you know have a little rager a little rager on the rocks and then canoe out or canoe out
or do you this is completely different as well south of france like weird like
old chateau maybe haunted a bit no gotta be haunted but have like activities everywhere
and like it'll be a three-day thing which is annoying for everyone but if you're traveling
that far just that should happen get involved and everyone's gonna be like kind of like drunk
or whatever the whole time yeah no one's gonna be like sober so it's fun it's like we have activities every day you have like wine tasting wine wine toss all
that shit but like and then a rager like fun yeah that's how i feel like it should be like just like
a good time it should be just no it should be a big rager no no pressure too much pressure like
because because there's expectations on things are supposed to go a certain way.
It doesn't go right.
Yeah, who gives a shit?
I don't think it should matter.
If you're out somewhere like that and it doesn't go right, no one even knows.
Nobody cares.
We're having a huge fucking three-day thing.
By the way, the whole time people are just thinking at a wedding, the whole time they're
thinking about when can I get a drink and when can I eat food.
Just get drinks and have food available at all times and drinks. That's all. The bar doesn't close. People don't really care about all the other stuff. They're just like, when can i eat food just get drinks and have food available at all times and drinks that's all the bar doesn't close people don't really care about all the other
stuff they're just like when can i eat they just want to have a good time yeah and good music
that's one thing well let me officiate the wedding if you ever get married yeah you know what i mean
let me if i'll be the officiant okay i would like to do that just say yes right now so i can lock it
in everyone knows that since that Santino will officiate
my wedding.
I'm officiating your wedding.
Fine.
I want to ask this.
Again, say no.
I don't care.
Do you like your boyfriend's music?
Okay, so this thing.
It's really funny.
Say who your boyfriend is
in case somebody doesn't know.
Well, my boyfriend's name is Gerald.
That's right.
That's his name.
But he is known as Che cheesy yes and what do you like
his music be honest so i will get me when you say a thousand percent no listen yeah so i didn't know
his music you never heard anything you ever did no all i know is fuck with me and get some money
right i still don't even know the regular name sure yeah i understand that's not the title so
we've known each other for like two years but
just like literally as friends like in passing we have a lot of friends in common sure um i don't
really listen to like rap that much like maybe like rihanna who's not rap or like nikki minaj
would be rap um and then i just listen like kind of like jazz and classical weirdly dork yeah i'm
a weird like weirdo no but jazz classical good music really
good music but um like rihanna obviously and like just certain people but mostly just jazz and
classical um because i'm weird like that or like french music i think i live in like paris who are
you no not your little european girl but like yeah i love that kind of stuff and um there's times till this day where i'll be listening like a
song i'll be like oh my god he's like that's me and i'll have no idea like i'm just like wait what
you don't even know some of the shit he's made that's why i know fuck me and get some money
but like you know did you tell have you ever had that discussion always he's like i love that you
don't know it i'm like i don't because i don't
really listen to that kind of rap like i'll listen to like kid cudi maybe or um well like jay-z
obviously sure and kanye their album watch a throne yes that is like probably the last rap
album i was stupid like they can be nauseous or cardi b is another one but like i don't listen
to like male rappers that much what about kendrick kendrick Lamar is great but like I don't have his album on the radio and like I don't do
that anymore so for so I think the part of the reason he enjoys the fact that you don't know his
music no he was like I'm so happy you don't like yeah he like literally we were driving the other
day and like his song was like whoo whoo and I was like he was like that's me i was like oh yeah yeah obviously he
has a song right now called ashley and you don't listen to music you don't even know but it is a
song out right now it's all about me it's called ashley but it's spelled a-s-h-l-e that's about you
would it would it be weird how about this would it be weird if he made a song about you
no but like this thing like that wouldn't trip you up no i don't think so i mean it'd be like
yeah dude don't i don't know yeah but like because sometimes people make songs about people
and if it was negative i'd be like not negative but sometimes i'll make one and put it out okay
you'll put out a track about it by myself do it like itunes can you put this out and they would
they'd be like for sure we can make money on that um no it's like what's great is um funny enough during quarantine because i've only been in that realm of like writing scripts um it's been
really nice to be able to kind of have a creative outlet in music yeah and we've done we've recorded
over like 30 songs together i want to say the house yeah so he's making music from the house and
you're like i'm in so then i'll go down there and be like hey like let's record this or like
let's write whatever and um it's really nice like it's been a really nice outlet to like
act like i'm doing something at midnight i'll be like i'll wake up like i'm bored i need to work
and like funny enough when you're recording music no one wants to record during the day
no it's tough
the day is hard
you don't
and like for me
especially
not being in the
music industry
I'm like
I'm too shy
during the day
I want to be
like at night
in the dark
I want to like
go outside
and like take a break
do whatever
but catch a vibe
and like have a drink
and just like
be there in the moment
but we've recorded like at
least literally 30 songs shut up would you ever put it out no we've put uh we put one song out
um there's there's a couple songs i'm on his album that he just did just for like quarantine
um and then he's i think his i don't really know his schedule. Are you singing?
Are you rapping?
What are you doing?
No, in the past thing, like I sang a little bit, but like we have literally 30 songs that have not been released that who knows if we ever will.
But for me, it's just fun to do it.
Yeah.
Are you doing the backup vocal thing?
No, I'm like lead singing.
Woo, woo, woo.
La, la, la, la, la, la.
Like the old 90s albums?
And that's the man and that. I could sing. that backup would be all i would be able to be i love i love the old 90s albums when like girls in the background like yeah
yeah that's what i would want to do like the moves like the move you know yeah yeah yeah
uh i want i want to hear these songs so bad dude I'll fucking plan for you but like then we were thinking like
should we release
our songs under
like a
pseudonym
yeah
yeah that'd be cool
and then no one will ever know
except for the people
that listen to this show
then they'll know
you'll never know
you'll never know
you'll never know
but
was it your idea
by the way
to do music together
or did he say
come do some stuff with me
no I asked
like in the beginning
of the pandemic I was like hey i kind of want to just record random shit i don't
know like i was feeling a lot and i just wanted to write and then it just kind of became a thing
and um yeah but it's good like i you know it's so fun to and especially like now like being able to do that with your partner is really fun to just
create and like a film that i wrote he's gonna do like the whole score on like that's cool yeah
and he's never done that either so it's like a score for him is a whole different totally
different world and you know he's very intelligent in that field and he loves like film and that kind
of stuff so it's fun to be able to work on that like and he loves like film and that kind of stuff.
So it's fun to be able to work on that.
And like he can learn from me now that I know a lot about in score, but in film.
But even with me, like if I were to like sing or do whatever, like we kind of get to vibe off each other in that way.
Sure.
You know, you're inspired, you know, day to day.
And it's really, it's fun.
It's like the unknowing of like what can we
create and we've done some pretty cool shit so it's nice do you think it makes the relationship
stronger do you think it's like a great it's like a it's a bond that's made it even stronger now
that you guys are making shit together i mean yeah but you know i don't know i think it's
because it's hard like look a lot of people say working together is tough right like
don't know i think it's because it's hard like look a lot of people say working together is tough right like we really have a lot of fun so yeah it's it's been it's been strengthened but i'm
i'm very much like no let me do it again let me do he's like holy fuck the hundredth time
literally hunt there was one song he had 98 takes of just me oh my god but that's how i'm in acting
so if i'm you know on a, do not let me see anything.
Oh yeah.
No, no, no playback.
No playback.
I have to do it again.
And like, I relate that to if I'm doing music because I'm not a singer, I'm not in that
field.
So it's like one more time, one more time, one more time.
And he's like, dude, you've done it.
Literally.
We counted.
It was 98 takes.
He was like
i can't do it anymore with you like at all but i just relate that to like perfectionism i'm such
a perfectionist and even with like directing a film i have to step away yeah like i have to let
my producers like also my ad my dp be like hey you have it yeah because i will always second guess everything of course
and that's just like a weird thing that i have but it is fun to be able to you know to create
together yeah one night when i get um when i get funked up enough i want to come over and
fucking come over come make some music a thousand percent is there is there instruments there too there's
no
guitar, drums
guitar
piano
yep
I can't play any of those
I just want to know
that they're there
I feel like it's nice
that they're there
they're there for your access
whenever you feel like
you just want to
come there to record
we have a
we have a keyboard at the house
and
she can play
and it's one thing
I've always been jealous
of people that can play piano
it pisses me off
because I think
it's such a beautiful instrument
and I know I can learn it
but I just don't want to
bro listen to this
so I'm not musically
like at all
you're not musically inclined
listen
but I am
in a weird way
it's my psychic shit
listen
so I'm
I'll close my eyes
like he plays piano
he just like started learning
and like obviously
he gets everything because he's a musician sure I'll be like this close my eyes i'll be like
and it's legit like a full vibe shut up you can just tick you can tickle the keys what the fuck
like how do you know and i'm literally i'm not even looking at like but i just hear it and then
it just goes so I'm
like dude in quarantine at some point because it's not gonna end now I'm like I'm gonna actually
like learn piano because I can hear it you self-teach have a very good ear yeah do you think
you can self-teach I don't know but like I did it with guitar for a film that I had to do and like
I had a teacher but also I was able to hear it and then
just do it you know that's so so the there's two kinds of people that they say that when you learn
instruments some people are better at at monkey see monkey do where it's like I can watch it and
emulate it I can I can and you can I see and I hear it that's monkeys you want to do otherwise
people can someone can teach them and you can keep teaching like i learned how to play drums yeah see i learned how to play drums monkeys and
monkey do i had a drum instructor try and i just didn't enjoy it and it's too confusing i just want
to watch it and emulate it dude like i like don't tell me what to do just let me figure it out my
own yes and eventually you'll get there and if you don't you don't yeah well i mean well it's like
but because some people are
I think some people are better
at teaching themselves
by watching
and like ingesting it
in their own way
like um
god who is it
I think it's Curtis Mayfield
and I might be wrong
and music heads might be mad at me
but
Curtis Mayfield
if I'm not wrong
his grandmother
played guitar
um
and she had a tune,
Spanish tuning.
And that's all of the black keys
on the piano.
And he taught himself piano
because he learned about
Spanish tuning on a guitar.
And he literally put the two together,
learning the notes from a guitar note,
from the black keys,
and then just learned to incorporate
white keys on black notes. And that's how he taught himself piano which i think is fucking insane that his grandmother
was like here's a spanish here's a here's spanish tuning natural tuning is what they call it i think
and then he taught himself based on that with no fucking instructor just literally like took that
and was like this is what i know from this and i can just put the rest of it together that's the kind of stuff where just natural shit you can't no one could teach you that yeah ability
yeah so if you have it in you you got some magic even if it is 98 takes girl it's fine
i'm a genius it's all it's fine i'm a genius it's fine i'm so smart and like so funny and what's
your what do you what do you think do you have a thing that
you feel like is a talent that you'll never get to put on display because it does it's not but you
but it's the thing that you're like i'm so good at this but no one will know do you know what i
mean by that there it is you're a venture you're you're a ventriloquist no i can't a ventriloquist? No, I can't do ventriloquists because they don't do that.
No, their mouth don't chew.
What is that?
You were just speaking through your...
No, that's really hard.
Try it.
Try it.
Motherfucker.
Oh, here.
We're never causing you labor, bitch.
But that's...
Wait, but...
Like, do you have a talent you can't exercise?
I mean...
Say that again.
I could maybe fucking do it.
Say it again.
Say it again.
What did you say?
Say it again.
I just said what the fuck he says.
Let me change it.
Okay, go ahead.
Say I'm on whiskey ginger.
Say that.
Say I'm on whiskey ginger.
Nope.
I'm on whiskey ginger. No, see, I on whiskey ginger I'm on nope I'm I'm on whiskey ginger
no see I can see you
moving your mouth
okay stop
don't put fucking
pressure on me
I see you moving your mouth
it's fucking hard bro
it is hard
I know
do it
I'm on whiskey ginger
I saw you fucking
move your mouth
I'm on whiskey ginger
I'm on whiskey ginger we've been drinking it's obvious we've been we've been boozing I saw you fucking move your mouth let's get ginger let's get ginger
we've been drinking
it's obvious
we've been
we've been boozing
we've been drinking
cheers by the way
cheers
how fun
and then tap
you gotta
you have to go down
that's what we learned
from the beginning of this
that's what we learned
from the beginning
yeah you can take
you can take
you can take this home
take the glass home
so look
we usually end the episodes
the same way
we end them with you saying one word or one phrase So look, we usually end the episodes the same way.
We end them with you saying one word or one phrase directly into the camera.
It takes us out.
Let me get off camera first.
And then when I'm cleared, you look in the camera and you say one word or one phrase and that's going to end the episode.
So make it count.
Oh, I'll make it count.
Make it count.
Right now?
Can they see me right now?
Yeah, make it count. One word? Can they see me right now?
One word?
Pussy.
In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey,
whiskey, whiskey.
You're that creature in the ginger beard.
Sturdy and ginger.
Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse.
Gingers are pugilist.
You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse.
Gingers are hell no.
This whiskey is excellent.
Ginger.
I like gingers.