Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Ian Edwards

Episode Date: July 12, 2019

Santino sits down with standup comic Ian Edwards to talk about his new Comedy Central special airing JULY 12TH at MIDNIGHT and also about Miracle Fruit and the new class of decedents of hipsters and l...earning to no longer pay attention to other peoples thoughts of how you should live. SEE ME LIVE!!! LEXINGTON, KY JUL 11-13 SACRAMENTO, CA JUL 18-20 MONTREAL JUST FOR LAUGHS JUL 24-27 ST. LOUIS, MO AUG 1-3 TICKETS AT http://www.andrewsantino.com FOLLOW ME ON INSTA https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ FOLLOW WHISKEY GINGER PODCAST ON INSTA https://instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast?igshid=mztm4g3wy0gq FOLLOW IAN ON INSTA: https://www.instagram.com/ianedwardscomic/?hl=en For more info on the WHISKEY GINGER SIGN please check out the dope art of https://www.instagram.com/starlingear/?hl=ent Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:15 My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again today, Ian Edwards. Ian. What's up, y'all? Do I look at you or them? You can look at either one. It doesn't really matter. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:24 They don't really care. Wherever you want to look. Where do you want to look? I'll just look at you or them? You can look at either one. It doesn't really matter. All right. They don't really care. Wherever you want to look. Where do you want to look? I'll just look at you. You look at me? Yeah. It would be weird to be like, good question. And then looking at the camera.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It'll be like a, what's that show? What's that late night show where they set him up with the prompts where he's like, oh, you've been to? Byron Allen. Byron Allen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you perform your answer. Yeah, out to the audience.
Starting point is 00:01:44 To the audience. Have you done that show? Yeah. Did you like it? I mean, it felt dirty sometimes. But, because I did it, and then one time I did it and Dick Gregory was on it. That was good to be on a panel with Dick Gregory. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But then you just, as a comic, creatively, you wrote the material, but you just feel phony delivering it that way does it feel like um well like what you've done conan how many times like four times okay so every time you do late night spot do you then also feel dirty when you do late night spots or do you feel much better about that you're doing i always tell myself in my head i'm doing a set yeah you know what i mean so i'm just like i'm doing a set this is a club set but with some maybe some different rules and that's but i still try to keep like the club edge to it yeah this was just like you just you're too behind the scenes you know this is not a real conversation i'm faking a conversation yeah yeah if it just everything
Starting point is 00:02:42 is contrived about the whole thing yeah it does feel it feels so forced even when someone I know is doing their best to not make it forced it still feels so forced yeah cause like
Starting point is 00:02:52 you're gonna answer a question by standing up and animating this whole airplane bit it's like that just looks you guys ever been to Sacramento and stands up
Starting point is 00:03:01 so you went to Sacramento and I'm not shitting on Baronelle I think he's a smart guy. It just feels weird. I don't think it's his fault more than, I think truthfully, it turned out that way. I don't think the initial intention of the show was to be that way. I think it just naturally
Starting point is 00:03:16 progressed to being this thing where it's like, well, you have to give somebody a setup because I'm sure people went on the show without any material and they bombed. And they learned that lesson that he was like, well, just give me the material and we'll set you up yeah i mean it's basically like baron allen like looks at the what i do like about he finds the loophole in things yeah like the the interview show that he did with like for movies like those are press junkets so he gets all that footage for free and made a tv show out of it yeah
Starting point is 00:03:46 and that was the start of his empire like like so many people and have interviewed actors for shows for movies that's coming out i press junkets for decades and nobody's thought i record these and just turn it into a tv show, I could be a billionaire. Nobody thought that shit. No, except for him. Yeah. And somebody told me, people that don't know Byron Allen, he does a show. It's late night.
Starting point is 00:04:12 It's a localized show. It's not, I think it's on. It's on a lot of different. But it's NBC. Is it NBC? I don't know. I don't know what network runs it. But anyway, he does a late night show.
Starting point is 00:04:24 He also bought the Weather Channel. Yeah, like when you got Weather Channel money, you know what I'm saying? Owns the fucking weather? Yeah. He could tell us anything. He could tell us anything. He's like, it's going to be nice forever. Global warming is fake.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And we'd be like, I guess he owns the Weather Channel. I can't not believe that. He's got to have some strategic move over why he did that. When people are like, why would a comedian buy the Weather Channel? Yeah, I have no idea why he did that When people are like Why would a comedian Buy the Michael Chan Yeah I have no idea Why he did that Well that's some politics Or something
Starting point is 00:04:47 He's been smart so far Yeah So I don't doubt it Somebody told me He garnered a lot of his fortune From licensing contract Licensing deals Like he would buy
Starting point is 00:04:57 I don't even know What that means Stand up albums Right And he would license them To places That makes sense Sounds like some shit
Starting point is 00:05:04 He would do Yeah some smart smart businessman shit. Like Michael Jackson bought the Beatles, right? And he did a licensing contract. Yeah, it's genius. That's where the real money was. Apparently he used to open for, oh, Byron used to open for somebody huge.
Starting point is 00:05:18 A singer? Huh? A singer? No, no, no. It was a comic, but then he ascended way higher than that guy. And then that comic's just, you know, I don't know. He probably used to open up for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:05:28 He started doing comedy before he was drinking age. Yeah. His mom had to take him to the comedy store. And you can't even do it anymore now. They don't even let you in unless you're 21. Yeah. But you used to be able to do that. When did you start?
Starting point is 00:05:39 How old were you when you started? In the 20s, early 20s. Yeah, I mean, until I was 22 when I started that whole thing. But you started in New York, right? Yeah, I started in New York. Do you miss New York? Like, I miss New York in the summertime. The summertime is dope. Yeah. And nothing like, you just, you could just go to the city and not have shit to do. And you're like, in the thick of it and you can be entertained all day. You can find shit to do. You can find shit to do. New York is the only place that I've ever felt like
Starting point is 00:06:05 if you were bored there, you should just kill yourself. Yeah, it's like me and Eric was there like last summer. And, you know, Eric's a little on the overweight side. He is? He knows that. But like he was there for a few days and we met up. And he's like, man, you have to work to be fat in this city because I've done so much walking.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Everybody, like if you're fat in New York City, first of all, you have to walk. Yeah fat in this city because i've done so much walking everybody like if you're fat in new york city first of all you have to walk yeah you don't have a choice yeah if you check your step monitor you're gonna like break your record every single time every single day and then people are still overweight like you he's like you gotta work hard and i was like yeah because all i've been doing is just walking to this fucking city i find that the funny thing is they have a lot of shit like new york has a lot of junk food or places to eat junk food. You know, you got like a hot dog on the street, carts, pizza, falafel, like all sorts of bullshit that you can grab fast. But I always find that like I don't eat sloppy when I'm in New York because you're always on the run. Right?
Starting point is 00:07:01 You know what I mean? Oh, so you don't have time to eat fast food. You just don't. Yeah, you just don't have time to even eat fast food because you're like always doing some shit right and which is funny because in a place where like la is like overtly conscious over the food that they're putting out and most it's harder to get fast food in la than almost anywhere else i feel like they really try to corner them away from areas unless it's i think it's just as easy but it's also just as easy to get healthy healthier food right that's what i mean yeah
Starting point is 00:07:29 it's so convenient to get something nice to eat but i feel like i have the temptation to eat shitty food here so much easier because you have so much time and i'm in my car anyway and in new york it's like i just don't even think about it you're like yeah i'm not gonna grab a hot dog on the move because i have something else to do where to go new york's a treadmill yeah you walk out the house and you're on a fucking treadmill right someone said to me it's like um the the worst part about new york though is that there's no off switch that like in la there's a there's an off switch you can you can you can not live in the city at 5 a.m in the morning everything kind of kind of shuts down. For like one fucking hour.
Starting point is 00:08:05 For one hour. Yeah, yeah. And then it starts back up again. What is this person talking about? Jesus. Yeah. One hour is enough to recoup. One hour is enough.
Starting point is 00:08:11 That's all we need, baby. Where did you shoot your special? Ian has a special coming out, by the way. Oh, yeah. It airs on the 12th on Comedy Central. Yeah. At what time? At midnight, which is really the 13th.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah. But it's July 12th. Yeah, that's how they're promoting it. Slash 13th. July is really the 13th. Yeah. But it's July 12th. Yeah, that's how they're promoting it. July 12th slash 13th. July 12th slash 13th. Uncensored. Uncensored. And then after it airs on Comedy Central, it'll be on the app.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Then I won't be talking to you or anybody else. That'll be the end of it. I'm just too big. I may talk to Rogan. You'll be so famous. So famous. And Burr is producing it? Or tell me Burr's involvement in the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:08:45 So it's a Bill Burr's Presents, Ian Talk, and him and All Things Comedy. They are a podcast network of a bunch of comics, and they had a three special deal, and one of the specials, Jessica Kerrison. Super funny. And Paul Versey. Oh, right, right, right. He was thei is oh right right he was the first one right the first one yeah right so it goes paul you her yeah great yeah that's great and they touched all the bases white dude black dude girl girl perfect lesbian a lesbian too yeah yeah damn man she might
Starting point is 00:09:17 she's gonna blow up more than you are for sure oh yes fuck i gotta do something yeah you gotta do something you have to i was gonna say if I do another special which I don't know if I'll ever do another one but why not I didn't even like the first one that much I don't like recording things
Starting point is 00:09:29 permanently for some reason oh yeah I don't know I love live comedy do you ever do the same set not really yeah I don't think so you've seen me enough
Starting point is 00:09:35 yeah I'm like this guy's always when you go on stage right do you first of all do you write yeah
Starting point is 00:09:43 yeah I do but I but I but I when I go to the store especially I love to write on stage right do you first of all do you write yeah yeah i do but i but i but i love when i go to the store especially i love to write on stage right like i'll get a chunk of premises together or get a couple of tags and i'll just keep i maneuver them throughout the week until i leave for the weekend i go somewhere and then i get to do it in flush when i leave you know unless i'm in the main room then i try to really do a material as much as i can right but i don't know i just for me to keep it engaging to me I like to change it so much.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Right. See, you would hate Comics Unleashed. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, I would bomb so bad on that show. Yeah, because every night I see you, I'm like, you just, it's like you're just riffing through shit. Yeah, I'm trying to get through new shit. Well, because I just feel like. But it comes off well for you.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Like, people really like you, that style for you. You know what I'm saying? I think it works for the way I present comedy, especially because I just got, I used to get so bored of telling jokes that were like tried jokes. Right. It just made me, it bothered me a little bit. It got me depressed, really. I would leave the club and be like, I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Right. Just because something felt off about the way I presented it where I sounded like I felt like I sounded phony right right but that was all on me yeah it'll feel yeah but
Starting point is 00:10:49 it also drives you to do comedy the way you do it which is different than everybody else or whatever makes you unique right
Starting point is 00:10:59 well it's kind of like like your you know your rhythm of the way you do comedy which is funny because I'll say this I should just backtrack a little bit Well, it's kind of like your rhythm of the way you do comedy, which is funny because I'll say this. I should just backtrack a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I was a fan before we even met. I loved your shit. And we met on, yeah, see? See, there you go. And we met on. See, that's when you throw the camera. Right. You throw one of these like, see? Who's in the hot seat now?
Starting point is 00:11:21 We met when we did, and I've talked about this before, when we did a pilot for Comedy Central, quote unquote, for this guy named Al Shear. And I've talked to Rogan about it. Yeah, Hits From The Streets. If anybody doesn't know who that is,
Starting point is 00:11:34 look up Hits From The Streets on BET. He had a show for like, I don't know, maybe seven years or something like that. Yeah, he had it for a while. He was huge from that show. But this is how separated Americaica is he was huge on hits from the street which is bt a black network yeah and then he gets hired to work on punked right
Starting point is 00:11:52 and he's like tricking celebrities who had no idea who he was no idea because that's how separate everything was back right well he said al would say that a couple of black celebrities were keen to him right yeah exactly but, exactly. But very rarely. Even still, they would be like, who is it? I think I've seen this dude before, but I don't know. But he couldn't be this cop
Starting point is 00:12:12 who's telling me I'm arrested. Right, right, right. They can't be the same guy. Which is funny because I just had a conversation with Rogan about this whole thing about how like, there are very,
Starting point is 00:12:23 because he's fallen in love with Miss Pat recently who rogan yeah yeah she's got an amazing fucking crazy story i know yeah and and and it's funny how like a lot of people who are comedy fans don't know there are there are supremely famous black comedians in the in the world of black comedy that white audiences have no fucking idea who they are yeah and they may never know they may know you know what i mean but like we were having this long conversation about it because i he was in so many words was like i think they're bigger than you think i was like i think they're not like i think i think if i went around and asked a million comedy fans who d ray davis is around
Starting point is 00:12:57 the country they probably wouldn't know yeah they might not know you know what i mean like they might not know they might not know but in black community, it's like so prevalent. Certain names are just, they're just embedded. They're like, yeah. Yeah, you know who the fuck that is. I've seen him a million times. How dare you ask me who that person is. Like there's something about that that's like, that'll never be, if there's a white comic who's famous as a comedian, they're usually known somewhat across the board.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But a lot of- Some black people might not know him. That's what I mean. As a comedian, they're usually known somewhat across the board, but a lot of... Some black people might not know them. That's what I mean. But there's less crossover from the other way for some reason. From white to black? Well, there's less from black to white. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Most white audiences just know what they know from the most publicized version of comedy. But comedy is changing. Well, there's still that. changing well now there's still that but there is like the new young group of black comics like hannibal burris or the oh shit why am i blanking on the brothers the twin lucas brothers lucas brothers but there's even younger than them that's more that's even more popularized now like who he's younger than those dudes but yeah hannibal's not exactly young he's not old there's not there's a lot like he's been around. I mean, Comedy Central pumps out. I feel like every time I fucking open up their page, there's a new young- You go on the Comedy Central page?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Everybody should, especially on the 12th. On the 12th, yeah. And watch that bitch on the 12th. I need to go on there more. No, I do their Instagram page, I guess I should say. But Instagram, like there's a kid named Jaboukie Young White that people love. I know Jaboukie. Okay, so that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:22 That generation of very young, that is a Jack Knight's very young. Yeah, Jack Knight's young. So there's that class of young black comedians who I think are more popularized to both audiences. Even though, you know, there's a lot of people. But I think they're popularized probably to not even a black audience. But, you know, how do you describe this generation? It's like the youngest millennials, if they are even millennials, that like kind of mix a lot with each other racially. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It's kind of this homogenous group of like culture and class. Like descendants of hipsters and shit like that. The descendants of hipsters. shit right right right the descendants of hipsters right that will be that is whatever that new class is whatever they're gonna be right because hipsterism is kind of nobody's saying it i guess it's kind of it's it's not young anymore no it's so so whatever's after that it's them yeah whatever this new age um which is whatever whatever hipsters fuck themselves into yeah you know that's what they are that's what they are which is funny because that they're the irony of that generation is like they hate like they hate class they hate classes and they
Starting point is 00:15:37 hate labeling you know they want everyone to kind of have this like universal right you know this universal peace and truth and we're all kind of living free. Which you sound like you hate. Yeah, I hate. You know I fucking hate. But all they do is label shit. So they don't, like, it's funny to say, like, there's more and more groups created now than ever.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It's hypocritical. It's so hypocritical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like. I see what they're trying to do. Sure. But everybody's still pretentious. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Everybody's like, nah, this is cool but yeah there's there's there's some pretension to it for sure there's so much to me like if when you when you say i'm i'm that gender you know when my gender is uh ambiguous or you know like i don't assign to all these old labels and yet they just create new labels and new names well that's a label that's what's so fucking funny i don't have a label is a label. Right. It's the same way. That's your label.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah, you're label-less. That's your label. You're in this new group now. Which I think is, I get it. I get why youth does that. But they're fighting this weird war sometimes. Like, I also think it's what incites a lot of bullshit to happen and people to hate each other for no fucking reason. Like this Antifa shit that happened.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Antifa? Yeah, you know the shit? And they beat up this dude, Andy Gno, or whatever his name is. No, what happened? I don't know. He's a gay right-wing journalist. And he went to one of these Antifa rallies.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And he threw a milkshake at his face and they punched him and shit. I'm going to sound really ignorant. What's an Antifa rally? Because I've definitely cut off the news on purpose. So you're totally out of all this bullshit. You're telling me a narrative
Starting point is 00:17:09 of the world and that's not a true narrative of the world. I don't want your narrative any longer. I want to have a good ass day. You don't want to hear the bullshit anymore. I cut all the bullshit out and I miss out on some things.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And it's good, you know, but also bad because I could have some, I'm looking for newer material now. So I might have to turn the news back on. You have to. But, you know. Look, I look at it like this. But that's my excuse. Antifa means anti-fascism. So it's like, it's a group of kind of, they look like militarized liberals.
Starting point is 00:17:45 It's a very, it's a weird, it's very odd. Tougher liberals. Yeah, they just like, they fist fight people. Like, they're down to fight. Because they're like, we're not like these pussy liberals. Yeah, we'll swing. We gangsta liberals. Yeah, we'll swing.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah. It's interesting to watch. But that's, my perspective is more like, I just love watching it because I'm fascinated by, I'm fascinated by these people that really want to get up, get out, and do something because I'm not like that. Yeah, I mean, I admire those people. Yeah, because from 10,000 feet, I just kind of like watching it all go down. I say, go ahead, march, man.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Right, and I just get to go sit by my pool and hang out. Yeah, yeah. So life is kind of good. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I don't mind watching it because I'm like, I'm still okay. I don't really involve myself in it. I'm rooting for them.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, sure, go for it. If they're trying to do something it. I'm rooting for him. Yeah, sure, go for it. If they're trying to do something good, I'm rooting for you. Do your thing, go for it. I don't think you should kick people in the fucking face and throw milkshakes at them, but you know,
Starting point is 00:18:30 shit happens, I guess. I protest at night through my material on stage. Yeah, that's right. Where people are kind of, they have to, for the most part, accept what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:18:40 even if it's counter to their ideology. Intuitive to their ideology, yeah. Well, dude, I've had people come up to me and say, and you do this a lot. This is something we do have in common. You will often and I will often take a stance or an approach on a subject where you're very well aware
Starting point is 00:18:56 that a good portion of that audience may be perturbed by it or they may be like, no, I don't like that. But you know that your spin is good enough. It's still going to land. You do that a lot lot i try to do that as much as i can there's a handful of comics who really go out of their way to be like this is why this thing is ridiculous i know i know why people feel certain ways right but it's also some things like did comedy central um did you remove any jokes from being in the special that you that they were worried about no not really they were good like special that they were worried about?
Starting point is 00:19:25 No, not really. They were good like that? Yeah, they were good like that. Because sometimes they made me remove something when I did a half hour with them years ago and I was mad. I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:34 I should have been able to leave that fucking joke. But I think they're probably becoming more conscious of like, you have to let people say whatever the fuck they're going to say.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You're going to get in a weird place if we start editing comedy. And I think Burr's involved so it's like, you know, it's funny, I just put in a call yeah you know say hey man they won't take this joke out there was one joke we took out but it's because i did it on a another comedy central show when i did like a 11 minute set what was like a pant uh no on a new negro oh the new negros oh right right right right so they, you just did that. And I actually wore the same fucking outfit.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Shut up. I didn't know. From your special? From the special. On the New Negroes? I wore it on New Negroes first. And then the special was shot. New Negroes was shot like in April.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And then the special came up. And you're just trying to get the special together. Right. And then they're like, hey, man, the special's tomorrow. What you going to wear? And I was like, I got this outfit. And you forget when you've worn. And then when New Negroes came out like a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah. And I was like, oh, shit, that's the same outfit. Same shit. Was it a shirt and a jacket or something? It's like a sweater with holes, with fancy holes in it. Fancy hole sweater. It's a ripped sweater. I don't wear ripped jeans.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I wear ripped sweaters. My top can be ruined. My bottom has to stay right. The bottom has to be intact. You're not seeing any leg. No thigh. That's so funny why, like, I have an expensive ripped sweater. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And it's so silly. But I really like it. I got two of them. One apparently is on two TV shows and the other one I've never worn. One's neglected when it should have been used. So when you, that is another, that's one thing I do want to say to people and fans that like,
Starting point is 00:21:10 I think people don't, people think like you show up to a thing and it's like, they probably give you like fancy clothes and fancy shoes. And they don't, it's like people don't realize TV. Most of the time you show the fuck up in what you're wearing. Then they're like, you're good to go.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah. Unless, unless you have labels everywhere. Yeah. And they're like, you have to get you out of that yeah but for the most part like hollywood does a thing to you like them okay here's a here's another good example and you know this very well like when you maybe let's see no when you do conan i'm saying when you do a tv set yeah when you when you're when it's over and you're leaving you're just like a human again you feel so like yeah yeah i'm just gonna head home Cause you had a green room Right
Starting point is 00:21:46 You had people asking you If you needed anything Right There's a massage chair It's a whole Kind of like a nice Party For the four guests
Starting point is 00:21:54 That are on the show Right You feel a little special And then you get off the lot And you're like Oh well I'm just gonna drive back To my fucking house I guess
Starting point is 00:22:01 Go back to my apartment And shit Like did you Did you drive yourself when you do Conan? Or do you have them send a car? I think I drive. See, I always have driven to anything I've ever done. And I like it because it does take me back down to earth real fucking fast.
Starting point is 00:22:16 When you get back in your car and you're leaving the lot, especially when a lot, like, asks for your pass back, then I'm just like, God damn, yeah, get the fuck out of here. You didn't have to snatch it, bro. Yeah, man. Oh, man. He's like, yes, I did, and don't come back today. lot like asks for your past bat back then i'm just like god damn yeah get the fuck out you have to snatch it bro yeah man he's like yes i did and don't come back today yeah there's something about that that there's something about that the the business will humble you so fast and it does in greater scales but that's a very small intricate window of like like when you're done shooting your special what did you feel like the moment you were done shooting? Just relief. Yeah, like you were... Because it's been like overdue and we complicated it with the TED Talk aspect of it.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And then... You have to explain that for people that don't know. So, basically, I'm somebody that would never be given a TED Talk, right? Yes. And I wanted my special to have another layer to it. So, you know, it'd be more intriguing. And like you said, I bring up topics and I kind of flip them on their head. Yeah. And so it's kind of the material is perfectly set up for a TED talk.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like, you know, you click the screen and there's a topic and it's like hoes. And then they would never talk about that on a ted talk seriously but i will yeah on my special and we talk about hoes and we move on to abortion and we just keep going and you keep doing so so you're flipping the tabs like it's a ted talk yeah yeah that's fucking wonderful was that your was that your idea when you presented that was that was that the way you presented the special to bill as you were like look yeah this is fucking great that's right away yeah yeah that's fucking wonderful man so so go ahead so go back when you were saying you did it Was that the way you presented the special to Bill? You were like, look, here's what I want to do. This is fucking great. He got it right away. That's fucking wonderful, man.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So go ahead. So go back. When you were saying you did it so differently, so it presented itself as like relief the moment you were done because you had been building up this catalog of... Well, I had the material and I've been... When you go to the comedy club to run it, you're just running it. Then we had to have some test run-throughs where we actually had the
Starting point is 00:24:06 screen and so then you have to like figure out how many visuals you have for which jokes and then once you what order then you have to remember the order this is like you're adding shit to it something that's going to be taped in two weeks that you haven't rehearsed and i'm doing the clicking who's going to click is something going to be somebody no way is it gonna be me I just gotta be me gotta be you and then so now I'm performing now I'm not gonna have a mic I perform my whole life with a mic is it one of these things the lapel my it's a lapel oh wow so then you're just doing all these things you're not used to and I didn't want to up the order and and not click it when I'm supposed to and sometimes when you rehearse it like in the club the few times we did if the clicker didn't work
Starting point is 00:24:49 or it was on a timer so if you went too far ahead you couldn't go back you'd have to stop the whole taping oh shit so then I just had to like get it perfect right so the stress that I put on myself I I didn't have to, of just wanting it to flow all the way through, like caused a relief when it was done. Right. It was just a big weight off your shoulders. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, we didn't fuck it up. It's over.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Wow. Let's go party. Now you did, where'd you shoot it at? At the Beverly O'Neill Theater in Long Beach. Oh, okay, nice. Why? Was there a reason for it? Because we started looking for
Starting point is 00:25:25 places that would look like they would have a TED talk sure and TED talks have been shot there okay couldn't first I was gonna do it by myself like would Aristotle was gonna be the director mm-hmm and me and him started looking for locations and then bill and my agent at the time hit me up and said hey we want you bill wants you to be a part of the three specials so then now we had a bigger budget and we started looking at into like real places that would really fit the the vibe of the vibe of it and that's great we really captured the vibe of it yeah man i i've seen i've seen some snippets online like they put up some previews of it. The trailer, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah, it looks great, man. It looks like a goddamn TED Talk. Yeah, exactly. It looks identical to a TED Talk. Like me with a holy sweater on doing a goddamn TED Talk talking about hoes. Talking about hoes.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But that's the real TED Talks, right? Those are the ones that people want to see. Yeah, yeah. The ones about, you know. It's the most interesting non-TED Talk you've ever seen in your life.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Did you have somebody open the show? Because that's such a different format. Did someone come out cold and do something? Brody, but he's dead. Brody did it. He did it dead, huh? That's pretty incredible. Where are you, Brody?
Starting point is 00:26:36 Why the fuck are you not around to do shit like that for us? You're supposed to be around to see this shit, son. He would have loved that kind of shit. Yeah, yeah. It was just a fun day, too. He was there, and then we also put him in the... There's like, you know, when TED Talks start, there's these images with people, different speakers.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Right. So that day, we shot, like, Fahim was one of those people. Right. Fucking Stupid Linochi was one of those people. Stupid is always the adjective for some reason. Stupid Linochi. Yeah, it's his first name. That is his first name, adjective for some reason. Stupid Linoche. That's his first name. Stupid Linoche. It's funny. Then we had Jesus go up so that they could just
Starting point is 00:27:13 shoot these people. And all you have to do is pretend you're talking. And Jesus wasn't even talking and couldn't talk. He's like, you got nervous shooting something that you're not even supposed to be talking in? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:27:27 We clowned his ass. So we just had fun. Yeah, it was just fucking around. And then Brody was one of them and then some of the PA people and it was just fun. That's great.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah. Did you do, you did a live audience of Bill as comedy fans or did you tell them it was going to be kind of like a TED talk? No,
Starting point is 00:27:41 we didn't tell them. You didn't tell them shit? We showed up. Yeah, yeah. That's even cooler. Because it's still a set, you know? Right, right, you know right right still a set but we just that element nobody knew about until like doc you know doc willis yeah i love doc he said when he got there he's like what the fuck is going on why is that because there's a ted thing i don't even get that yeah don't give
Starting point is 00:27:57 it all away but yeah you'll see doc doc doc by the way he's talking about doc was a guy who used to work at the comedy store he made me laugh all the the time. He's a very short man, but has a voice of James Earl Jones. I mean, he's like, every time I'd see him, he's like, oh, what's up, Santino? He's like the deepest voice of all time. Oh, yeah, he does. Yeah, it's just like very, it's like real guttural. Oh, yeah, hey, man. Like, if you just heard his voice from around the corner, you'd be like, who's this big-ass dude?
Starting point is 00:28:22 You'd think he's way bigger. Yeah, dude, you'd see him. He's compact. That's probably the PC word. He's a compact human being. He's a compact human being. He's a compact man. He wouldn't like to fucking hear that.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Oh, man. I heard you say compact. Fuck that shit, man. I'm normal size. You know what? It's so funny. Whenever you say someone's short or tiny or whatever, if you're like, oh. You know what people do to me all the time?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Often, lately, for some reason, people keep going, man, you're taller than I thought. And I'm always like, how did you, why did you think I was short? Like they see you on camera and they, they, I think they have this idea of how big we are compared to one another. But, but lately a lot of people have been like, God, I thought you were a lot shorter than. Because most people on film are tall, are shorter when you see them in real person. Sure, I guess. But here's the one I can't understand. I just performed in a comedy club on stage.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You were there live. Yeah. And later on in the lobby, hallway, they're like, man, you look taller on stage. I'm like, are you out of your fucking mind? How dare you tell? I was on stage in front of you. You could see my height even though i'm on something that's a level that's higher than you like you you thought i walked in with
Starting point is 00:29:31 clogged stage with a clogged stage on my foot like i don't know if they're trying to be funny oh i hate when they're trying to be funny yeah sometimes they are though after shows when people trying to be funny it's like just be genuine that's all comics want just be genuine like if you're if you're if you're if you're like hey man you don't have to be funny back no just hey man i i'm a fan or like i like this or hey my mom i had somebody told me oh my god somebody in san diego had come up to me and been like i came here because my dad is a fan and i was like that's dope oh that's dope and he was like yeah my dad's out of town but he was like you got to dope. Oh, that's dope. And he was like, yeah, my dad's out of town. But he was like, you got to come. Like, that's a cool, it's like a nice, fun moment to share.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But when someone comes up to you drunk and they do this whole fucking game and you're like, dude, I just worked for you. I just worked. I just did an hour of work for you. Here's the crazy thing. When, like, I still don't really drink, but I drink once in a while. Yeah, you pretty rarely. I don't really see you drink that much. But, when i didn't drink at all yeah and people were like after the show like what do you can i buy you a drink i said no i don't drink you don't drink what do you do for fun
Starting point is 00:30:35 motherfucker the reason why you want to buy me a drink is because i made you laugh for an hour how are you accusing me of not being fun right now because i don't drink that makes no sense to me some of those people that's the only way they have fun though right like you're talking about a lot of the big part but you can't ask somebody who made you laugh so much what do they do for fun what do they do for fun right motherfucker we just did it we did fun i did so much fun for you yeah you want to you want to spend money on a drink well delia hears it all the time and you you know, like... Yeah, he don't drink.
Starting point is 00:31:05 He doesn't drink. I mean, there's a lot of guys. I have more people on this show, Whiskey Ginger, where usually we have a drink. I have more people on this show that don't drink than do now, which is funny to me. Is this real water or prop water? We'll find out. Okay, I'm sure you're right. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Prop water. Yeah. Good. Go fishing first. But like D'Lea, Bobby, there's guys that are either sober or never drank. Oh, yeah, Bobby's sober. And so people always ask. Chris used to be, I think he doesn't get it as much anymore because he's kind of.
Starting point is 00:31:29 People know. People know. The ascension is so obvious now. It's so big. He's way up there. But I remember being, after shows with him, people were like, yo, Chris, can we buy you a drink? And he's like, I'm good, man. And they're like, oh, you don't want one?
Starting point is 00:31:39 He's like, no, I'm good. And he would always say like, I'm good or whatever, or thank you, no thank you. Until finally he had to be like, I don't drink. I don't drink. And people do that same thing where they go, why not? He's like, I don't want to. And they're like, were you sober? What do you like to do?
Starting point is 00:31:54 What's your thing now? I'm not blaming you because you do drink. Right. So there's people who don't drink. Like you've been in this world. Right. You've been around long enough. There's people who don't drink.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So why are you surprised When you meet one Everybody doesn't drink Everybody doesn't swim Everybody doesn't Doesn't like boxing Everybody doesn't like Like
Starting point is 00:32:13 Right I'm not gonna be like You don't like soccer Right What the fuck do you like Well because you're huge In a soccer Yeah
Starting point is 00:32:19 And when you meet people that When you meet people That do like soccer I'm excited You're excited. And if I meet someone that doesn't, I get it. Right. You go, fine.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Sure. You also don't like a lot of other fucking things. Yeah. Well, that's the same way for me. Because that's the way the world works. Yeah. So why is everybody surprised when the world works? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 The way it works. How do you do that? How do you not? Yeah. Like, you know. You don't blink? Like what? Well you you got him you were the first person i've said this before you were the first person i ever tried vegetarian i mean was it vegan no it might have been vegan it was a vegan was it
Starting point is 00:32:58 veggie grill i think that's what we had from the from the yeah is that that's vegan or vegetarian it's vegan yeah it is vegan right yeah yeah So when we were working together, I had never had a vegan meal. Obviously, I'd eaten vegetarian dishes. Right. You know, I had to go into like Thai food places got vegetarian shit. But I never had a vegan meal. So we had vegan for the first time. And I remember like, you were like, I kept being like, I don't like this shit.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Like, I know I'm not going to like this shit. And you're like, how do you know if you've never fucking had it? And I was like, I just know I'm not going to like this shit. And then I ate, how do you know if you've never fucking had it? And I was like, I just know I'm not going to like this shit. And then I ate it. And sure enough, I fucking liked that shit. Because veggie grill was good. It was. It was really fucking good.
Starting point is 00:33:31 But I could tell they put a lot of, you know, there's probably a lot of sugars and salts. Salt. Yeah. Yeah. All the good stuff to make it. They spice it up. They make sure you like it. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:33:38 They make sure that people that don't have any interest in becoming vegan will still eat the food. Yeah. That's kind of their goal. Yeah. It's like, all right. You know, one day I'll do indian one day i'll do thai one day i'll do veggie grill right it's like yeah yeah that's kind of the balance yeah which okay so we we've said this before we've had this conversation but never on on air but like you've been vegan
Starting point is 00:33:59 for how long uh i forgot but it's definitely over 10 years. Easily. Easily. But you used to eat meat. Yeah. But the conscious decision was, it wasn't because you watch a documentary. Now it's like, hey, people are like, I saw that thing and I stopped. It was before the documentary.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, you were before that game. Yeah, yeah. I was getting hazed for not eating meat. I'm one of the old school. You're the OG vegan. I'm the OG vegan. Wait, why did you, what was the impetus to quit?
Starting point is 00:34:28 So when I was in LA for a minute and I just wanted to be healthier, so then I just cut my diet down to chicken and fish. Yeah. And that was getting monotonous. Right. And then my friend, Tangerine,
Starting point is 00:34:47 she just turned vegan. That's one of the most my friend, Tangerine, she just turned vegan. That's one of the most beautiful names. Tangerine is so dope. What a name. Tangerine. That's an L.A. hood name. Yeah, but it sounds great. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I got a friend named Grapefruit. Nice dude. Very nice dude. I think I met him. Yeah, you know that dude. Yeah, he's cool. But Tangerine convinced you to do it, huh? Yeah, she had this.
Starting point is 00:35:05 We went to eat at Chin Chin's. Which, by the way, sounds like a racist. I don't know why it sounds racist because it's a Chinese food place. I mean, they named it. Yeah, they did it. I don't know why. All I had to do was show up. Every time I go, I'm like, Chin Chin just sounds like. It sounds like Ching Chong when I go into that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I'm like, they could have made it anything else. If it was Yin Yang, it would have been more. I mean, they wanted to let you know this is Chinese food. Come get it. You know what I'm saying? No questions. Chin Chin. Well, that's like in new york all those places are just called chinese food yeah you know there's restaurants that oh yeah they're just called chinese food and you're like what is this i guess chinese food on 43rd creative yeah chinese food so tangerine took you to chin
Starting point is 00:35:38 chin and but she wasn't eating meat she ordered something that was meatless and then she had this book and it had like pictures of stool and shit that comes out of meat eater stool oh and i was like whatever you know yeah i ate my my meat and shit but then when i went home later on and i was cooking like some uh turkey sausages and shit like i started like it started frying and bubbling up. I started like seeing the worms that were in the pictures. But also here's the main reason. When I was a kid, I used to love KFC.
Starting point is 00:36:13 It was a treat that we'd have like once a month on a Friday. That's when KFC was good. I don't know when you grew up. When KFC was like just banging. When I was a kid it was Popeyes you go when KFC was like it's just banging when I was a kid was Popeyes in Chicago Popeyes Popeyes was like mm-hmm KFC was around but I think Popeyes was way bigger for some but you know what went before I
Starting point is 00:36:32 started eating meat before I started stopped eating meat and I used to eat Popeyes it was way better than KFC it was I thought it when I was a kid it was amazing it was a good that was a treat for us too I was like damn Popeye's fried chicken It's like Friday night fucking KFC And I was like I vowed That when I grew up and I was an adult I'm gonna eat this shit whenever the fuck I want When I get enough money
Starting point is 00:36:57 I'm gonna have KFC every day of the fucking week If I feel like it My name is Montoya Santona And I will avenge. And I will avenge my father's death. I will eat for KFC for the rest of my life. And then I was an adult and I started like buying buckets of this shit and bringing it home and eating it. But it just never tasted the same.
Starting point is 00:37:17 No, it doesn't. And it's not that they changed the ingredients. It's that they changed the chicken. They fucking did something. Yeah, it's all GMO or whatever it is. It's gmo yeah and then it let me know that they're doing something and i was like i don't want to put this shit in me either right so then you got over it yeah i got it i mean they helped me get over it damn kfc did it kfc turns you vegan kfc you know whoever does makes chicken or raises it or does whatever they do to it well it's funny because when i travel when because if you travel the world and you eat other meat in other countries, it tastes so different.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And it tastes like meat again. Yeah, it tastes so different. And it tastes like KFC again. It does. It oddly does taste like... I think the only kind of meat that I think in America still that I eat that still tastes kind of like the cleanest version is red meat. When you get high-end red meat. So when you get a really nice cut of red meat, you can tell.
Starting point is 00:38:09 They don't fuck with it. They don't fuck with it, right. But you have to pay for it. Yeah, you have to pay for it. So now the poorest version of meat, the normal version that people are eating, is so fucked with that it does – you are right, it is weird. It does taste different. And we've tried the Beyond Meat and all that bullshit
Starting point is 00:38:24 and the Impossible Burger or whatever it is and that shit's good as fuck that shit is good as fuck it's weird how good it is it's creepy it's kind of creepy like it makes me go like
Starting point is 00:38:33 what the fuck is going on it might be real meat not only does it taste like a little bit sweeter than meat it has the same texture and feel it's got like
Starting point is 00:38:42 it has the redness the juiciness to it it's really odd man it's it just goes to show you that like your brain can quite easily be tricked into transitioning into this other world if need be. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like have you ever had, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Magic fruit from West Africa? Magic fruit, magic fruit, magic. What's that? Fuck. It's this little berry. Oh, yeah? And you let it dissolve on your tongue. You can buy them on Amazon.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I think they sell them now. It used to be illegal to get. Now it's totally legal. Magic fruit? Magic fruit. And it changes the chemical composition of your tongue, so sour things taste sweet. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:39:18 You have to Google. Yeah, people at home will Google it, but I think it's called magic fruit. Magic fruit has got to be the name of it. I'm going to order some right now. Look at this. Oh, here it is called magic fruit magic fruit has got to be the name of it i'm gonna order something right now look at this oh here it is yeah magic fruit so magic fruit um magic a miracle fruit or magic fruit there are two different but it's called uh sinus palal so my god sinus palum dulcisium is a plant nose for its berry that when it's eaten causes sour food subsequently to consume to taste sweet the effect is due to miraculin which is a chemical that coats your tongue no but there but you can order
Starting point is 00:39:47 these things online and they make them in tablet form but that could save marriages this is a husband's wife yeah vice versa is a bad cook you gotta eat their cooking right before the meal oh honey this tastes good what are you taking before we eat dinner just a vitamin it's normal shit normal shit your food is great makes your garbage taste palatable but i get we had one at a party one time and it was fucking remarkable what it would do you she um my buddy's mom cut lemons and i was like i'm not eating a fucking lemon i don't like lemons that much and i was like i'm not eating fucking lemon and she was like try it so after you put
Starting point is 00:40:23 this on your tongue you don't really physically feel you can't really physically tell but i took a bite out of it and i swear to god i swear to god on my life it tasted sweet the lemon tastes like an orange sweeter than an orange it almost tastes like um uh i'm gonna get that just to try it's weird it's like fresh mango thing to have you know fresh mango is really like juicy and sweet and clean that's what the lemon would taste like. Like super clean. And they're much cheaper than mangoes. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:48 So you know what? I'm going to get this. And lemons are good for you? Yeah. I'm going to start eating lemons with magic fruit. Solve my overpriced mango problem. Right. Get the magic fruit.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Get the magic fruit. Magic fruit or a miracle fruit is what I guess they call it. But in West Africa, it was used, they would put it on their tongues to eat stuff that was less savory for nutrition if they just didn't like the taste of it. Like for kids, they would give it to kids. And there was this- Parents should give that to kids too. They should. Because I've seen like this one toddler on the plane, parents give kids like chips or just whatever just so they don't cry right when they don't want to cry candy and they should like i'm like that's a slippery slope
Starting point is 00:41:33 right yeah and this has come from a guy with no kids but i just feel like right they should though yeah they should this is this is this will solve a lot of issues i don't like when somebody says like i don't have kids either we don't have kids but I don't like when somebody says, I don't have kids either. We don't have kids. But I don't like when someone says, you don't know you don't have kids. Yeah, I still know some things, even though I don't know. That's also what I'm saying. I've never been to prison,
Starting point is 00:41:52 but I know it's horrible. I imagine. I can just imagine the story you're telling me. Does shit taste like shit? Probably. Yeah, yeah. So I don't need to have it to know that things are fucked up.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I don't like when somebody does that. How would you know? How would you know? How would I know that you shouldn't feed your kid shit from your ass? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just taking a guess.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I'm just taking a wild guess. It's a wild guess. It's a wild guess. That bothers me and it bothers me when somebody says, someone just did this again to me. I was singing a song in a store. There was some shit on the radio. I'm just imagining you singing.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I was singing. I'm not a good fucking singer too But I'm like singing it Kind of under my breath And it was a song From maybe the 60s And And this woman's like
Starting point is 00:42:33 It was Motown And this woman was like How do you know this song? And I said I'm sorry She was black How do you She was She was
Starting point is 00:42:42 She was too old to tell I don't know what she was She's so old You couldn't tell what color she was I don't know, she was, she was, she was too old to tell. I don't know what she was. She's so old you couldn't tell what color she was. I don't know what she was. But she was, she worked there and she was, she was real light skinned though. I couldn't really, seriously, I couldn't tell. She could have been 50 different kinds of things. And she goes, how do you know this song?
Starting point is 00:42:59 And I said, this, what do you mean? And she goes, you, you too young to know this shit. And I was like, do you not know things from before your too young to know this shit and I was like do you not know things from before your time I know right it just annoyed me that she was it's almost like saying like you're not allowed to like this song I think she's trying to like this this pleasantness I wasn't there no you see you're I know what you're trying I know what you mean I wasn't there there was condescension behind it okay it was almost like saying like uh she it's almost like she really said you don't know this song instead of how do you know it was almost saying like you don't know this fucking song it's like yeah i do
Starting point is 00:43:27 i love this song like what i'm not allowed to know do you know who picasso was right why why were you around who was picasso yeah i don't like when people do that when they check your like i try to be conscious that when i talk to someone younger than me when when i say something and someone younger than me is like i don't know what that is instead of me going of course like you guys don't have to you guys don't have that from your generation it's be i'm more informative now i'm like oh yeah this used to be by the way i like doing that to younger people you do you like you like diving on them i mean they're gonna pass me and be ahead of me at one time so yeah i mean they could fuck with me on technology so i'm gonna get them back see that's why i, they could fuck with me on technology, so I'm going to get them back.
Starting point is 00:44:05 See, that's why I'm scared. I want to get on their team so they don't fuck me up in the long run. That's why my fears are going to be like, you know, he talked shit to us a couple years ago back when we were... That's kind of like the approach that a lot of... I'm nice to everybody. Yes, well, you're nice.
Starting point is 00:44:16 But I'm shitty nice. You're nice to strangers. You're more fun and mean fun to people you know. Mean fun to people. But that's the people you know. But I also mean fun to people you know. Mean fun to people you know. But that's to people you know. But I also introduce myself to people I expect to keep seeing and try to be. But L.A. is different. Like in New York, you shit on somebody, they're your friend for life.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Sure. Yeah. And when I came to L.A., I realized you can't just shit on people. You have to slowly introduce. It's like baby food into adult food. Right. You know what I'm saying? I got to baby food them, my fake personality, and then boom, hit them with the, start shitting on them.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Right, right. Some people are just more sensitive in L.A. New York's just tougher. It's just a culture, right? It's a very odd culture because we haven't really cultivated our own culture in L.A. We're all so different from everywhere. Everybody's from everywhere. And New York is everyone from everywhere. But when you get to new york you better fucking
Starting point is 00:45:07 curb all your bullshit right because it just the city makes you kind of turn into something that you you have to be to fit in that mold otherwise it'll swap eat you up yeah you can disappear in la you could be from oklahoma and come here and live a quiet life and just do your thing and be fine you feel like you're in a sunny version of Oklahoma. Right. You can't do that shit in New York. It just won't work. New York comedy audiences did get more sensitive, though.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I was just talking to another comment. There's a Mark Norman, who's a great stand-up. He was talking about that. The shift is very obvious, and it's unfortunate. Yeah, I went there last year. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah, you physically feel it, huh? Yeah, yeah. I haven't performed there in a while so i have no idea and i've never performed at the cellar but all i know is that people say the cellar has shifted dramatically over the years
Starting point is 00:45:56 yeah and the comedy store has gotten even stronger in its approach to being the most open yeah that's what's so wild right exactly because normally, exactly. Because normally, whatever would work at the store, you could take to the East Coast and kill there. Right. And now, audiences are like,
Starting point is 00:46:12 I can't believe you said that. Well, I mean, what I think is, what I think's crazy is, there used to be this perception of Los Angeles comedy as cheap or fake or hacky or easy or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And New York was this tried and true, like, that's where you can really get out material. But now I feel like New York people, New York comics, are doing just the same material we are, sharp, questionable material, but it's just not getting consumed there because there's this pushback. And out here there's just this open, like, well, fuck it. If it's going to happen, there because there's this pushback and out here there's just this open like well fuck it if it's gonna happen we're gonna hear it here you can go hard here yeah it's weird man i'm glad i'm in the place you can go hard me too because it would
Starting point is 00:46:54 scare me if i was over there yeah yeah which is also subsequently why to my comedy well you'd have to because a lot of those guys are moving here yeah there's a lot of people that are making the shift or to come here more often because they feel like they can just say it here. And I don't know what it is. I don't know who it is. I don't know why. I don't know what happened, but I know things change. That's life.
Starting point is 00:47:11 But I just never thought that would be a change. Yeah, it's weird. That is like something that I never calculated. Well, especially because we're in the liberal Mecca, right? Like New York is, I think what people, like when people hear LA is this like left coast place, it really is, but they also forget that like surrounding Los Angeles is a lot of different ideas. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:33 There's a lot of people that don't just think like LA people. Listen, man, I went to a Red Lobster in the Valley a few years ago. I did not, it didn't feel like I was in California. No, no. Nah, nah, nah. Well, it was a Red Lob california no no no well it was red lobster to be fair yeah it was red lobster but it was just like it's like canoga park yeah and it just like oh
Starting point is 00:47:52 you're not this is different world it is yeah and that's only 12 miles from the center of los angeles exactly like i was in um we were just in baltimore baltimore maryland and man it's funny when people start to get comfortable and they just tell you stuff and you're down to absorb it. And I just was listening to him. But he's like, yeah, you do TV? And I was like, yeah, I do TV sometimes. I don't like this accent already. You already know what's coming. He goes, yeah, we don't watch TV no more.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I was like, why not? You don't like, did nothing on for you? He goes, yeah you know all these my wife used to watch all these shows you know like uh you know this network hgtv i said yeah home and guard tv he goes yeah uh what it really stands for is uh homo godless television i was like oh so you watch fox he watches fox news yeah well no he says he doesn't he goes i said i said well what do you what do you like and he goes there hasn't been a good show on tv since king of queens that's what he said hilarious yeah he loved king of queens that was his go-to but he would but he was so adamant about he kept plugging the home he said the joke three times by the way
Starting point is 00:48:59 he goes yeah homo godless tv he wrote that that. He loved it. Or somebody, a friend. He got a text. Yeah. He got a text and he was like, dude, I'm saying that. That's so funny, bro. But he kept saying it to me over and over. And it's funny when someone gets comfortable because he was like, you know, because my material, when I say it, I'm not, I'm definitely not aligned with like a very liberal point of view, even though I ironically am. Or a conservative point of view. I make fun of a lot of lot of sides yeah and i go hard on a lot of people like i'm a little
Starting point is 00:49:30 bit mean when i approach a subject when i should be more sensitive about it but i like it and i think he heard it as like yeah you're one of me yeah you're yeah i can tell you this joke exactly my favorite bit which i actually kind of like because i hear it on both sides i hear like very left-leaning people who like are like you think just like me right and i'm like that's funny because i don't i don't find myself to be a super hard left-leaning person right i don't i definitely don't find myself to be a hard right-leaning person either but i don't trust either side yeah why would you i think most comics are like that now yeah most comics you talk to you they're like unless you're like nick topalo or one of these guys who's like outright, that's what I do. I used to listen to NPR a lot in the car.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And it's like, you're just doing the same thing that the Fox News people are doing to their crowd. And it's like, it's not this cut and dry. Cut and dry And Especially since Trump is in office I didn't like it when everybody shit on Obama Right Shitting on Trump
Starting point is 00:50:35 Does not help No it's not helping shit It's strengthening him So it's like I didn't like the petty tactic of attacking Obama that the right was doing. So I'm not going to enjoy the petty tactic of attacking Trump either. I just don't like pettiness. Yeah, it's cheap.
Starting point is 00:50:56 It's like go for the real. Give me a real story about some real shit. And let's be adults about this. some real shit and let's be adults about this right yeah i got i got a little bit of a little bit of like uh my conscious clap back myself of like i was saying this joke about trump and i was like i said like trump is going to win again and audiences get mad and i said i'm not voting him in i'm just letting you know the truth of what statistics are i said this country has an extremely difficult time letting someone only have one term. It's very rare, like statistically.
Starting point is 00:51:27 You got to be George Bush. Bush, that's right. You got to be George Bush. I mean, really. I mean, it's been a long time. Prior to him was... He's alive still. Who?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Carter. Carter. Yeah, Carter. That's right. Well, that was pretty fucking obvious. Yeah. But I think like in the long run of this country, I said, yeah, I said most presidents don't serve one term.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And I said, unless somebody kills them, you know, like people got mad. But that's the last thing I would want. I know. Because then Pence gets in there and shit. It'll be a civil war. Yeah, it'd be crazy. Yeah, it'd be crazy. So I don't want that shit.
Starting point is 00:52:01 No, but I'm like, I'm making such an obvious joke about like president about assassination of presidents and some dude afterwards man got so mad he's like you're telling you're the way you're talking is telling people that they should go do something to trump i said dude it's a i'm making a fucking joke and it's a fact yeah it's a fact and it's a joke yeah i'm making a joke about a fact what do you want me like yeah so i still feel that like i like to shit on all those things but you do still feel that like politics are like the one thing now that's a funny joke where people still kind of thank you where people still get like a little sensitive you could say anything else and they and they'll absorb it and take it for what it's worth or they'll go oh they don't like it but when when someone is adamant about their politics man they get fucking they still get upset they still get upset it's like it's just it's it's
Starting point is 00:52:49 it's harder than the birds and the bees talk right politics it is yeah like uh so i did new negroes right i did 12 minutes comedy central puts the whole 12 minutes set online oh it's not oh no okay i'm sorry it's not online it's not edited new negroes not my special no but the show new negroes on tv when it airs it is edited it is edited but my set they put the whole set on okay so then what happened so there's one joke in there about i don't even want to tell so i'll tell the. The joke is like, it's a 12 minute set. I got one joke about how everybody's protesting Trump. And there's going to be so many marches that by the time he's done being president, the entire country is going to be in great shape.
Starting point is 00:53:36 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We're going to protest ourselves into fitness. Into fitness. Right? Yeah. So then me and you just had a conversation earlier about we don't take part in marches we watch yeah i watch stay on the sideline like hey so then comedy
Starting point is 00:53:52 central out of the whole 12 minute set i don't know i'm not saying comedy central whoever does is in that department they said ian they they posted the thing as clickbait on in gets in shape protesting Trump so then all these people with Confederate flags without even really listening to the bit all the whole set right nothing about Trump it's about other shit right start like come attacking it of course and I told him let's call them up I said hey you got to change the title of this clip because it's a one bit about Trump that even people who are pro Trump Trump when they've heard it me do it in the clubs laughed because it's just like it's just funny it's just a funny joke it's a funny fucking comment's just funny. It's just a funny joke. It's a funny fucking joke. It's a funny commentary, right?
Starting point is 00:54:46 And you got people coming at me, and I don't march. Right. It should be called, Ian Edwards does not march. Yeah, exactly. That would be a funny version of the clip. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I'm the only person that's going to... Me and you are going to be the only people that are going to get out of shape during this presidency. From watching the bullshit on the sidelines. From watching people march, yeah. Did they change it? Yeah, they changed it.
Starting point is 00:55:08 They've been good about it. Yeah. They've been good about learning that it's like, the comics have to be the ones that have the final say in all this stuff. It's our shit. Yeah, you can't change the narrative of what I'm saying. It's like, you have to think about how that might affect me. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I got to go places. I don't want people attacking me. I want to be attacked for when I deserve to be attacked, right? Attack me when I know it's coming. Yeah, don't don't blindside me with something that I don't know Well, I don't like I don't like being I don't like that I think that's a hot I talked about this very recently like doing TV for me or doing Performances on you know, like acting wise, it's gotten harder for me to swallow the pill because I have no control. You know, the more stuff I do, the more it's like, well, they edited you differently than what you delivered.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And the beauty of standup. Oh, and that's the reason that I've always been a standup and I, and I love it the most and I'll never quit it, but I might quit acting at some points because you lose control. I don't, I really don't like not having any control over the final product, unless it's mine. Right. I mean, if I like the project, just for me, I like the project, and then I get a partner, I'll do it, and I'll do it for that.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And, you know, whatever helps people know who I am and it makes them come out to see my stand-up, I'll do something like that. I had an audition this morning. It's the first time I've had an audition in a while. What was it for? It's for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. What the fuck? And that's huge.
Starting point is 00:56:37 It's a Marvel show, right? Yeah, a Marvel show, yeah. Yeah, that's very big. They've been on for like seven years. Six years, yeah. But probably going into seven, yeah. That's a heavy show. They get a lot. I mean, yeah. If it's going into seven. That's a heavy show. They get a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I mean, yeah. If it's going to help you progress in your career and so more people see you. And that's like a fantasy thing. So it doesn't even matter. But there's auditions I did turn down because then like when, what's the name of this show? Jermaine Fowler was on that show. Kekner was on that show. Superior Donuts.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Superior Donuts. So they had a black cop. He's like a goofball. I was like, if I book this role and I'm like this corny black dude and the people I want to come see me do stand up. Because sometimes people can't separate the character on TV. Most times they cannot. So it's like this would hurt me. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And stand up Is my main thing That I want to do So I can't have people Perceive me to be this person Nobody would want to come see me At their fucking comedy club Right Or when they do
Starting point is 00:57:32 They're like mad That you're not the guy That they thought you were gonna be So then I was like Fuck that shit Well that's I guess that's what I mean Like you see somebody
Starting point is 00:57:38 Like Bob Saget Who was this America's dad And then he talks about Fucking the Olsen twins When you go see him live. And people are shocked and they're like, it's like, yeah, because that guy wasn't that guy when he did that show.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, he was not. And I don't want to be, I just, it's hard for me lately to like, accept the fact the past couple of years, like some things I've involved myself in is what I put out and what's come out of it has been two different things. And it bothered me a little bit
Starting point is 00:58:04 because you can't do that with standup. nobody can fuck up what you delivered on that stage of your special you put it out there they can't edit that up to be different right you know you're the one that picks the final product so that's what i love about stand-up is it you'll it'll never be compromised it depends on the special though because like if you do like those i don't know what happens during those comedy central half hours well that's or something like so I'm glad that I did this with comics and we
Starting point is 00:58:30 like pretty much got everything there's some things we didn't get like you know but for the most part yeah
Starting point is 00:58:38 for the most part it's your product it's hard to manipulate what you put out there because you don't leave a lot of space for it to be changed yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:58:43 when you film shit there's so much room for things to be manipulated. So that's my biggest fear is like I don't ever want to put stuff out that's like, well, I didn't want it to look like that. Right. You know, and you don't have control when it's not your project. And stand-up will always be your project. So that's why I like your special, the TED version of this. It'd be really hard for them to muck that up and then be able to put it out without your permission.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Right. That's the beauty of doing that. It was your vision. It was your way. So, you know, for now, it's like the only thing you can do is put out, if you want to do TV or film, is try to be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:59:12 The goal is like, well, I want to make it because then I get to dictate what I look like. You know? I mean, that's kind of the beauty because lately the stand-ups won my heart so much more. Some of the stuff I've done film and TV-wise, it's just a few things the last couple of years, and I was like, I fucking hate that shit.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I look dumb in that shit. You look dumb, and you just don't want that to reflect when somebody comes to see you live. Or if they don't because of that. It's like, I thought he was funny, but that thing I saw him do, I hated it. That's why I didn't want to do Superior Donuts as a goofy cop. As a dumb cop?
Starting point is 00:59:46 Because there was a line in the thing where one of the white characters tells a black cop, shit, I'm blacker than you. And I was like, I'm not playing some guy that some white person can tell me they're blacker than me. I'm blacker than you. Because actually, I've been told that by white people before you know just in real life and i'm like like what are you saying to me like could you get shot i'm i'm blacker than you can you be shot by a cop by the way that's the name of my next special is going to be called i'm blacker than you i'm blacker than you i'm just going to go for it i'm actually my next next special Is gonna be clickbait It's gonna be called
Starting point is 01:00:26 Young blind gay black girl Homogenous Homogenous Yeah we'll see if they like it Homogenous redhead Homogenous whiskey Homogenous whiskey Yeah yeah
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Starting point is 01:00:44 On the 12th slash 13th. Record that, bitch. Do whatever you have to do. Yeah, dude. Lock that shit. Do something. Lock it the fuck up and watch. What's the name of it, by the way?
Starting point is 01:00:52 Ian Talk. Ian Talk. Yeah. Instead of Ted. Because Ted's a bitch. Yeah. What does Ted stand for? Am I ignorant?
Starting point is 01:00:58 Should I know that? I don't know either. All right, good. I spoofed the shit. Yeah, you don't fucking know? I didn't study. At first, I thought it was a name. And then I was like, like no it must be an acronym
Starting point is 01:01:06 right I'm gonna look it up and I didn't even flinch I spoofed it I didn't even flinch to try to find out now would be a good time to know
Starting point is 01:01:13 alright so TED conferences what does TED stand for what does TED talk there's gotta be people at home that are like how do you not know that yeah easy there's a lot of shit
Starting point is 01:01:24 I don't know my mind is occupied with other shit here it is it's uh technology entertainment and design my uh special was definitely about none of that shit what would be the what would be the uh what would be the acronym for ian let's see if we can figure out what ian stands for. Could Ian stand for something? What? I ain't. I ain't new. I ain't new.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I ain't nude. Yeah, I ain't nude. I ain't nude. That's in the Me Too movement. It's just like, hey, man, I ain't nude. It's like, all right, we'll check it out. We'll take a watch. So watch on the 12th to see where Ian's going to be live.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Is it what? IanEdwardsComedy.com? ianedwardscomedian.com. ianedwardscomedian.com. Or go to Instagram, at ianedwardscomic. ianedwardscomic, ianedwardscomedian.com. We'll put all that shit in the description. Watch his fucking special.
Starting point is 01:02:17 It's incredible. Also, you have albums out that people can still find on Spotify and iTunes and all that shit. 100% half-assed. 100% half-assed. Produced by Conan. Conan production, right? So listen to that shit. Watch this shit. Spread the love and the word. We'll see you next week. Peace!
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