Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Jason Nash

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

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What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? We got a good one today, man. Welcome back, and hello to the new fans that are there. Jason Nash is on the show. The OG internet comedian Jason Nash. Been around for a long time, making people laugh on the interwebs. Check this dude out, and check out his new podcast, Very Funny Dude. Also, got a special on Netflix.

If you haven't seen it, come on, man. What are you doing? It's called Cheeseburger. Please go click on it and watch it. Put it in the background when you're cooking a dinner. Make yourself chuckle while you're making some linguine. Please watch it and tell a friend. Ladies and gentlemen, spread the word, will you?

Enough rambling from your boy. Let's go to the episode. In here, we pour whisk, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse.

Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again today. It's the first time this gentleman's been on the show, and he's such an old, old friend.

We've known each other for 27 years. Jason Nash, everybody! We did just meet. We met, you know, I know you via the internet, right? Like, I know you via the internet, but we met for the first time at a luxurious Beverly Hills Christmas party. Yeah. Let me tell you, let's tell everybody exactly what happened.

Call them out. Which is, I went that night, I got engaged. Yeah, congratulations, by the way. Everyone at home is saying congratulations at their computer going, congratulations. And I'm sitting there right after I got engaged, and I'm thinking, oh, fuck. Tim Dillon's party is tonight. It's a big deal.

Yeah, but I just proposed. But when Tim Dillon says you gotta come to the party... Yeah, and I really wanted to go because, like, you know, I don't... I'm not in the comedy circle, you know, whatever, but I watch those shows and whatever, and if I'm being honest, I'm like, I need guests for my podcast, you know, whatever. But I, but I, but I watch those shows and whatever. And I, and be, if I'm being honest, I'm like, I, I need guests for my podcast, you know? So I like, right after I proposed, I was like, Hey, uh, Tim Dillon's party is like right down

the street. So you pop the question, then you're like, we gotta go to Dylan's house. And to her credit. Um, and I said it like, I said it like, we don't have to go, you know, but she was like, no baby. She's like, you gotta go to that and i was like you were looking really sharp that night i was actually a little shocked when i saw you well she's gorgeous but that's that doesn't count i'm talking about you thank you she's beautiful but you i was like when i saw you i go wow does he look like this all the time like because you were so dressed in the nines looking so sharp and now i see you now and i go, right. He looks like a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. But you look so sharp. And I was like, man, what is this? And then when

you said you got engaged, I thought you meant it just happened recently. And you went out to dinner. I didn't know what happened that night. No, it happened that night. And so, and it was this thing of like, you know, it, it got, it got to be, that was my, that was my Christmas gift was the ring. Sure. So, so, and she was like, I want to do Christmas gifts on the 21st and I'm going to give you your gift. And I was like, oh shit.

Cause I was going to wait maybe till we got to Boston. I was going to wait till new year's maybe. So I was like, I got to do it. And then that Tim Dillon party. And so then she just said, yeah, let's go. She's like, that's awesome. And that, and that, that, that told me right there, I was like, this person's unreal. This is your wife.

Like, this is my wife. Like, this is the fucking. And of course we went in and she loves comedians too. The first thing she did was she saw Annie Lederman. Yeah. And she was, she loves Annie Lederman. Yeah. And she was just like, oh my God, blah, blah, blah.

They became friends right away. And then I saw you and I was like, oh man, I would fucking love to have Andrew Santino on my podcast. Yeah. So I walked over to you and I was like, I talked to you and I was telling you how I watch Bad Friends and everything. And then you said you would do it. I go, yeah, I'll do it.

And then what happened? I called you and I said, you got to come do mine. I'm leaving the country. I was like, you're coming to do mine. I'll do yours. We'll swap. We'll swap later. We had I was like, you're coming to do mine. I'll do yours. We'll swap. We'll swap later. No, we had a date.

We did. We had a Monday. I had a Monday and a Tuesday. I had an Andrew Santino on a Tuesday, and then I had a huge guest on a Monday. Oh, wow. I'm not the huge guest? No. Thanks, man.

Fucking Trump's Andrew. It was Donald Trump? It was Donald Trump. Nice. It was a vodka. And Monday comes, Monday cancels. Yeah. Tuesday comes, Andrew Santino cancels. That's right.

Because he has to go be in a fashion show. Yeah, I got to be in a fashion show. Is this what I saw on Andrew Schulz's Instagram? Yeah. You had to go be in a fashion. I'm a fancy girl. What do you want me to say? They call me up.

They say, hello, we do want to come to Paris to be in fashion show, give you money and fly you here? And I said, absolutely. I said, I'm immediately going to call Jason and cancel. You can't. I didn't have a choice, man. They fly me to France. What are you going to do?

Say no? You guys are comedians. You can't go to fashion shows. I'm a piece of shit influencer. You go to fashion shows. I can go to a fashion show, right? People already hate me. But we make fun of the thing. That's the best part. You make, well, it doesn't look that way.

We were having fun. On the Instagram, you're just having, you're on a private jet. We were having fun. We were having a lot of fun. So I saw that and I was like, okay. And then you called me again. You said, come here. And I said, can you do mine after? And you said, no chance. No chance. I said, it's not going to work. I have to do so many before I go to Australia for two months i've never been to australia too and so now i'm panicking they called me and they were like hey man uh you know we're doing the job the job you got the job we're gonna do the job in australia and i was like great you got a you're an acting gig i'm doing a movie yeah for two months and i was like yeah great that's fine okay so then i've got like you know a week to tie up loose ends they're like you're leaving in in 48 hours and so I was like, uh, what really for, for, can I come back? And they're like, no, no, no,

you're going, you're staying. I've never been. So it's also daunting. And I'm like, you know, trying to scramble and do everything. I think people in the business forget that you have a real life. They think you're just sitting in your house. I hate the way movies think that they're God. Oh, well to them, they are. I hate that way movies think that they're God. Oh, well to them they are. I hate that. And for that reason, I don't like to act. I don't like to go and sit. If I have to sit in it, last time I sat in a trailer, I was like, I'm never doing this again. See, you know, what's so funny is I'm so go, go, go, go, go, go, go between standup and podcasting and other acting jobs and touring and blah, blah, blah. When I get to go sit in a trailer,

it's heaven on earth. You like it. Well, dude, I get to just chill. I get to either read something or write stuff or work on a thing. Honestly, this sounds so crazy. Sit and think. Like I get to sit and think for a couple hours because my mind is just like, it's just constant, constant, constant.

So when I get to do nothing, oh, dude, it's amazing. Will you do stand-up down there? I might. I think. I don't know. Have you played down there before never dude I've never I've never been to Australia and I've been offered like four times to go do gigs and I've just it's never worked yeah it's so far it's tomorrow do you know what I mean where they're like it takes a day to get there and then when you land it's already tomorrow so today

it's already Sunday do you know what I mean right So, you know, I just, every time I got offered, I was like, that's just so far. And it's like, then you have to spend, if you do go just for gigs, I have friends that do, you got to spend like three weeks there to make it worth it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you have to tour all around the whole country and go to every major city. You can't just do it in like a weekend run. Do you know what I mean? It can't just be like a pop-in pop-out.

It's not like I'm going to fucking Bakersfield you know which by the way shout out to bakersfield what a spot what a spot underrated underrated really yeah dude underrated bakersfield under driven through it there's a cloud of i gotta tell you brown yeah well that's it's cow shit sitting over it yeah oh yeah that's cow shit now that's cow shit like when you go up to five and you go by the slaughterhouse i love it i pull over I get out of the car and just, I waft it in. No, you know what? I, I, I love stuff like that because it's so different from Los Angeles. Southern California is so, you know, I don't know, man. LA is so very LA. Well, how long have you been here? 17 years. Yeah. And I'm ready to be done. Well, you're at a place now where you could go, right? That we all

say that, don't we? But we don't mean it, do we? Well, how much does the podcasting do for you, honestly? It's amazing. It sells the tickets. It sells tickets. It's also a way to connect with my audience. It's continuing to grow within our community and help other comics.

And there's so much about it that is a part of our world. And Zoom sucks. Let's play no games. No, no, no. I don't do Zoom. Zoom's bullshit. I don't do it. So, you know, I mean, it's an integral step in our growth of the community of comedy.

And I think it's important because I like it. So it's hard. Like, I'm going to New York for a while. Yeah. But I'll probably still come back here often. What are you going to New York for? I'm kind of going to move there a little bit. Oh, so you are moving.

Kind of. I just asked you that. No, but I'm staying here. Do you know what I mean? Like, I have the, I'm going to keep my place here, but I think what it really is is my wife doesn't, she doesn't want to admit that we're moving. So I have to keep, I can't say the word moving. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

We're going. She likes LA. She, she's, it's just, she's got a great life and career here. So it's hard to rip her away she's like a real person she's a human being it's like you married a human huh

yeah I did wow like your fiance is she in the business no is she right she's a human well sort of but no she's

what does that mean she's not in the business you're like OnlyFans but it's not like it's not the business it's a business she's just like she has a podcast

that she does but she's just not interested in like in doing this really well cause it's you know she's just like she has a podcast that she does but she's just not interested in like in doing this really well cause it's you know maybe you are baby

we'll have to talk about it I was just gonna say have you thought about putting shelves on the wall no no because what if it's gonna fall on my head you know I watch your podcast

like I watched the when you had the sunny guys on yeah cause I love them and this is new this is newer this is good it was in the old room

newer yeah it's newer the old room where we it's newer the old room where we used to do the shoot was where Rob Mack and Charlie Day

because the Bad Friends set has all kinds of tchotchkes too much tchotchkes but you're just going straight you're saying I'm so funny yeah I'm so funny

I just didn't have a fucking blue wall behind me watch me now watch me now right also tchotchkes I used to have

at the old studio and I was always afraid something was going to fall on my head and it was like this panic of what's going to fall down. Also, when I see podcasts with so much stuff on the wall, what's it back there for? It's for accoutrement. It's for your eye, like when you're watching a cassette. Watch me, baby.

You watch me. Even Rogan has cool shit behind it. Well, actually, he has a black curtain. He has nothing. Well, he has a cool thing behind him. He has one piece. One piece. Right. And nothing else. Right.

Have you done Joe show? Four times. Four times? No, no. Wow. I've done it 12 times. Have you done it 12? 12 times.

That's my goal. That's what I'm starting here today. I hope I start here. Get to Rogan. Get to bad friends. Get to Theo Vons. Yeah. And then to Rogan. And then that's it. to Theo Vons. Yeah. And then to Rogan.

And then that's it. I quit one time. And that's it? Yeah. Then you Birdman yourself? He kills himself live on YouTube. You guys got to watch it. I'm going to kill myself on Rogan.

I mean, that would be a way to go out. Get him some of these for sure. That would be it. It's Spotify boost, baby. Getting on Rogan is cool. I love him. I love him. I've watched him for so long.

And then, of course, you learn about all you guys from him. No, he was a great. I love him. I've, I've watched him for so long. And then of course, you know, you watch, you learn about all you guys from him. No, he was just cool. He was a great, um,

uh, a great Papa bear for all of us. I said, I said this to him the other day, he was on my podcast and I said, I said, you know, no one gives him credit for the fact that like he,

he's like a, I don't know. How do you say it? He it he's sort of an alpha guy he is definitely an alpha guy so he's an alpha guy and he i think he was the first one to be like to say like oh yeah hey i have i have feelings or whatever or to be able to like to be introspective and be like an alpha guy like my father is fucking macho as fuck b Boston. Yeah, Boston. Boston born and raised. Tough football fights. Don't be a fucking pussy, Jay. Don't be a pussy on my life.

Right. Shit like that. So when Rogan came around, I was like, oh good, this is a guy who's like my dad, but is saying, listen, yeah, we all can be critical thinking

and we don't have to just be a fucking meathead. And I think there's a lot of, I grew up with a lot of meatheads and I think a lot of meatheads have watched Joe and that they've been like, oh, okay. You know, it's okay for me to have feelings. You know, that's basically what I take from him. I'm allowed to feel sad sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He did give the, he did, he has kind of cued in on how to be a real man in his perspective as someone who can also be vulnerable about the reality of, you know, their children and their wives and their family and things they love. I think he's done a good job of doing that because it is very bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. Yeah. But yeah, he is. It's a good balance. I mean, I've been friends with him for a while. It's wild watching him change and grow. I mean, that's, it's kind of nice to see that as we go on in the business. Like the one I found you, I think I first saw you truly on Vine is probably the first time I ever saw you. Yep. And it's funny to watch like even that group of people change over time because you guys all

used to do stuff together and then- Like Batch and- Well, yeah, like it's not just Batch, but then also like, um, uh, um, what's the couple that got married now they're two people that are together now uh a boyfriend and girlfriend they do videos ariel and matt exactly right yeah like it's cool to watch like from an outside perspective i don't know any of these people i just see them online and i watch them change and grow and it is kind of wild because i saw you on there and that whole crew kind of everyone dispersed when vine went away and did their own thing and like was there anybody a part of that those old days that you thought was going to be massive and just didn't continue

or they quit or moved or did everyone like there was a kid named like marcus johns marcus johns and he was pretty much like the, I think maybe he had maybe the most followers and then I thought he was going to be like a literally Spider-Man. Marcus Johns, yeah, and he just failed. No, he's around, he still makes content, he's married, but I think, you know,

what happens to a lot of people is a lot of people go, I don't need this. You know what I mean? Like you and I, you know, as a comedian, and I used to do stand-up and stuff, so I understand? Like, like you and I, you know, as a comedian and I used to do standup and stuff. So I understand comedians a little bit. Like, you know,

you have this need, right? To like get up there. To do stuff. To do stuff and, and to hear the audience and you get that rush.

Yeah. And, and I have a friend who's, you know, pretty, pretty famous from the internet and he's just like, yeah, I'm good. Like he doesn't want to do it anymore. Yeah. You know, pretty famous from the internet and he's just like, yeah, I'm good.

Like he doesn't want to do it anymore. Yeah. How old is he? Can you say who it is? You're going to be... No, I don't want to say who it is, but like, and maybe he will keep doing stuff,

but like, I get like that too sometimes. Like I'm like, I don't need this. Well, you make the joke a lot in a lot of the content, at least you used to, of like, you're the old man in the group. Yeah.

That's kind of like the bit that you would run. Well, that's what happened. I did Vine. I had $3 million on there, and I was making some good money. I was making like $250,000 a year just on brand deals and stuff. That's great, yeah. Like one year, I think I made $250,000. And then it just went away.

Like one day they were just like, it's done. What happened? The Twitter, I don't know if Twitter bought it. They just couldn't pay for it. Something happened. They couldn't, they didn't have enough, I'm going to say this horribly, they didn't have enough hard drives or they didn't have the money, the bandwidth to keep all those videos up. Which is why Google bought YouTube. It's almost the exact same problem I think they had. Yeah, yeah, probably. YouTube couldn't,

they couldn't keep up with the amount of data. Yeah. They have to pay for all this data exchange and it just was costing too much money. So Google was like, right, we'll just buy it. So, so, so that was done. And so then I didn't have a job and I was like okay what do I do and so then I was doing stand up at the improv in the little room one night and then this kid was in the audience, David Dobrik and he was like

I think he was like 20 at the time and I finished my set and I did this whole set about younger people and how much I hated them or whatever. And right when I walked up stage, he marched right up to me and he had his camera. And he was just like, hey, can you come do that bit tomorrow on my video? And because I had done Vine and stuff, that was like a common thing.

That people would just come ask you to do one thing and then you'd never see them again. And you'd be like, yeah, sure, you know. Right. Of course. And then I went and did it. And then we started filming. And then I did that for like four or five years just with him. Just with him?

Yeah. That's kind of wild. Yeah. How old is that guy now? David is 26. Okay. So it's been a minute with that guy. And so he's-

Now the kid's got a pizza shop, dude. Yep. He's got a pizza shop. Doe bricks. Go see it. It's great. Great pizza. There's a line. Every time I go to the comedy store, there is a huge line. Yeah, and so he's... Now the kid's got a pizza shop, dude. He's got a pizza shop. Go see it. It's great. There's a line. Every time I go to the comedy store, there is a huge line outside. Be real with me. How is the pizza? The pizza's

fucking phenomenal. Don't do this if you don't mean it. No, it's fucking phenomenal. It's good pizza. It's so good. Now, what did he do? Did he find someone to do? Because he's not a pizza guy. How did he find a good chef? Do you ever heard of lemonade? Cause he's not a pizza guy. I like, how did he find a good chef? No. You know what? Do you know what? Do you ever heard of lemonade to drink? Yeah. No, no. The whole life. What? What? Lemonade, lemonade, the company. Yeah. There's like lemonade,

the restaurant it's here in LA. There's a couple of them in LA. Yeah. So they're, they're like gourmet guys. It's like overpriced buffet. I know what it is. yeah so they're like gourmet guys it's like overpriced buffet I know what it is yeah well now you have overpriced pizza it's like $97 for four scoops of brussels sprouts no I know lemonade so he got the lemonade guys to make a recipe

and they worked on it for a couple years and they put a lot of time into it and they really labor over it and they really want it to be quality and they've had offers to already franchise and they won't because they can barely handle what's going on on Sunset right now. Because it's packed every time.

Yeah. So they're just focused on that. And the pizza's phenomenal. They have this one thing. It's called the Doughy Doughbrick. And it's got like really high quality like pepperonis with spicy honey in the pepperonis. Spicy honey. It's phenomenal.

Okay, good. It's really great. Well, then I'll go check it out. I honey. It's phenomenal. Okay, good. It's really great. Well, then I'll go check it out. I am going to try it. Every time I walk by it, I always think, I just won't wait. I just can't do that. But I will get it at some...

When it dies down a little bit, I'll just sneak it. I'll text you. I'll have them send it over here. You're the best. See? If you were going to franchise yourself into something like that, what's your move? What's the Nash restaurant?

What is it? I do Chinese food. I love Chinese food. Jason Nash's Chinese food. jewish chinese food yeah joe jew chinese yeah yeah by the way there's a place that i went to in uh in austin uh there's a burger joint called jew boy which i was like no way interesting yeah in austin yeah dude there's a it's a i'm giving them a i'm giving them a little bit of love it was pretty good i got suggested to go there from a friend of a friend because my special came out the day I was in Austin.

It was called Cheeseburger, and I was like, let's go have a cheeseburger for Cheeseburger Day. Right. And so me and my lady go up there. To the anti-Semitic restaurant. Well, because immediately I asked the lady behind the counter, I was like, why is it called Jew Boy? I was like, because I don't really love the name.

And she was like, well, the owner is half Jewish, half Mexican, don't really love the name and she was like well the owner is half jewish half mexican and it's a burger joint that has a jewish root with a mexican flavor menu and it was pretty dope i'm not gonna lie yeah i still was had a hard time saying jew boy when i was someone's like where'd you go to lunch like jew boy they're like all right dude slow down especially in the south because you know they're like going to jew boy yeah get some. Yeah. Get some Jew boy burgers, dude. That's that Louie bit where he's like, you know, Jew can be either a good word or a bad word. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, it sounded, look, it sounded biting at first. Then you go in and you're like, I get the vibe, but it's still heavy handed. Like, you could do a Jewish Chinese restaurant, but what would you call it? Well, there is a Jewish Chinese restaurant on Fairfax. Genghis Khan. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't buy into it. It's mostly Chinese. Where's the Jewish part? That's at the tables. It's just all Jews.

Yeah, see, that's the problem. The first time I moved to LA and I went there, because I lived in West Hollywood for like 12 years, and I was like, oh, this is going to be a cool spin. Then you go and you're like, this is just Chinese food. Yeah, no, but it's good. Yeah, no, but where's the Jewish spin? What was the Jew part? It's kosher. Ah, come on. Yeah, I think it is. But give me something else. Give where's the Jewish spin? What was the Jew part? It's kosher. Ah, come on.

Yeah, I think it is. But give me something else. Give me some good jazz in there. It's not enough. It's kosher. It's not enough, dude. Not enough for you? You Jews need to step your game up

to do an ad with Kanye in the background now. Listen up, Jews. No, but we can make you a Jewish Chinese restaurant, but that's not original anymore because of Genghis. So how about we do, because I'm going to invest in your franchise. Oh, great. Let's do Jason.

How much money do you have? Like 4,800, 4,900 bucks. 4,900 bucks? Is that not enough? How much does it cost to do a franchise? Thousands? No, I was just asking how much money you actually have. How much money do I actually have?

I try to... Enough to not worry about rent anymore. Oh, I'm sure it's more than that. That's a good number. No, it's not that much. Do you have a lot of money? Are you a rich guy? I did. You used to have a lot of money.

And then what happened? When I was doing YouTube and it was like flying high, yeah, I did. And now I'm like, eh. Now it's fine. Yeah. It is. It's like, I have two employees. Well, now you're going to get married, dude, so get ready.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now your money is everybody's money. I have two employees, too. Two humans work for you full time? Yeah. What are we talking? Assistance or? Well, one is a like really high level, uh, producer editor and the other is an

alcoholic. No. Um, no, he got to have one around. No, no, she's great. Uh, no. And the other is just like a producer. I have two producers full and they're full time. Uh, yeah, that's hard. Yeah. Keep them employed. No, but it's, it's really good. Like I, I, I like doing it that way cause uh, I realized I just can't do it by myself. I'm just not that, I'm not a good editor. Well, you're a busy man. Yeah. You have a lot to do. You have a life.

You have kids. You know what I mean? We just did like a roast of one of my friends, and it was pretty like high-level production. Who was the roast on? Zayn Hijazi. Do you know Heath and Zayn? Yeah, of course.

You know Heath. He's done the show. Yeah, I know him. Yeah, so we did Zayn, and Heath roasted, and it came out great. And it was number one trending on YouTube. But we worked on it for like six months. Where'd you guys shoot it?

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Isn't that such a cool word? It is a cool word, yeah. It's like Koreatown. It's a movie, right? Wasn't there a movie, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang? Yes. Yeah, I was just going to say.

Yeah, but it's down in Koreatown. It has like an ATM bank vault to open the door. Oh, yeah, dude. I think I've been there before. Yeah, it was good. I've been there before. And then we want to do another one, but I've just going to say. Yeah, but it's down in Koreatown. It has like an ATM bank vault to open the door. Oh, yeah, dude. I think I've been there before. Yeah, it was good. I've been there before. And then we want to do another one, but I got to find it. It's hard to find somebody to do it.

Did you write your own shit or did you hire people to write for you? No, we wrote it. You wrote everything on your own? No, not on my own. Me and Brandon Calvillo wrote most of it. And then a lot of the people who roasted wrote their own stuff. That's good. And it was pretty good.

I would wonder to see what you thought of it. I brought in a couple of comedy store writers for the last one, and they were great. And then this time, I just didn't have the budget. So I was like, okay, we'll write it. You'll do it solo. I'd be interested to see what you think of it. You should watch it.

Yeah, I do want to see. I saw clips of it online, actually, because of Heath, I think. I saw a few things pop up, and he just, I was following his story. He just went overseas and overseas and did like a whole vlog about getting his hair done and all this stuff and that was like yeah yeah it was like the next video below the roast and i was like what is this about and he's like documenting his his hair journey which i think is very funny we saw we went to whitney's roast at the comedy store yeah how was that it was great yeah it's great she

asked me to go and wear a wedding dress and marry somebody, and I couldn't say no fast enough. I was like, abso-fucking-lutely not. Fuck that. She was like, it's for OnlyFans! And she's speaking a mile a minute, like I do, but she does it in a way that's like,

she might also attack you, so luckily I was like, I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I was like, I can't do it. Yeah, she was on one that night. She's on one a lot she's always she's humming dude she's spinning like a fucking top she said hi to me I was like it was really cool my fiance thought that was cool and um and I'll tell you what's interesting is is cool that she did it on OnlyFans because

what you can say on YouTube now is so so minimized we know, dude. It's been a thing. It's been a conversation. We've been getting hit all the time. It's so crazy. We've had the calls with the YouTube coordinators. Yeah. For the fans at home that don't know, like basically what happens is we get, you know, they log your level of monetization, which is basically them deeming you unviewable for

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And they lie to you, by the way. They're full of shit. No, no, I'm usually at fault because I'll call the rep and I'll be like, what the hell? I got demonetized. Whatever. And he'll be like,

okay, okay, let me try to fix it. The rep is great. Yeah. And then he'll call me back the other day. He's like, you have a fucking sex toy ad

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I like gingers. That was like this kid, Jordan Firstman. Do you know Jordan Firstman? Do you know who that is? Oh, man, he's so fucking funny. He's a great actor. He's in that new show or that new movie, You People, Jonah Hill's new movie.

I just watched it last night. He's in that. He did a role in Dave on the show, and he had a joke that made me laugh so hard it'll never make the cut, I think, because we were bantering, but the one guy is rambling on and kind of questioning his positioning, and he says, he goes,

are you Puerto Rican? He goes, I'm gay and Jewish. It's kind of the same thing. And he threw it away so fast, I died laughing. Dude, he got me. This was on set? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was in a scene. But it didn't make it. I don't think it will because that banter isn't a part of the other thing that we were doing. Did you ever take acting classes? Because you act so well

and you're in so many cool things. I never took a traditional acting class. No way. No, no, no, no, no,

I've never gone to a class with other people. That pisses me off because I've gone to so many acting classes and I was like oh my god I'm so bad at this well I've had humans help me but that's different like who helped you like one on one sessions you know but I've never gone to a traditional class

like if there was something I really wanted someone to help me learn something about yeah then I'll hire someone for that did you ever gotten any cool advice from like a cool I don't know someone you were on the set that's like famous I mean like the sunny sunny guys they ever teach anything i mean those guys i mean those guys like you know becoming friends with them is kind of a wild world because you learn that you know we're all the same in a weird way like we're all kind of creating what we think is funny

right and hoping it works and when it does work it's like lightning in a bottle particularly for those guys i mean they that goal of that show for them from the jump was like how funny can we make each how much can we make each other fucking laugh right this like you know it's like it's kind of it's honestly it's like what you're creating with your friends it's like yeah how can we do that and format a fucking wackadoo show about it? And I think the thing that I learned from those guys is they're all, I don't know if Mac said this to me or Charlie, but have people that you are kind of jealous of their humor like around you or in the room.

Like in your mind that you're like, I think this guy's way funnier than me or way better writer than I am. You know, that's an old adage is like, don't be the smartest person in the room, but it's kind of true in comedy too. It's like, you know, you can't be the person in the room who thinks they're the best writer and the funniest and it's your show. That's a failure immediately. I mean, Seinfeld probably taught us if anything, and no one's really taken the ball and run with it since him truly in the in the sitcom world, on that show, he was the least funniest part of the show by a landslide. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

George was funnier. Kramer was funnier. Elaine was funnier. You know, it was like he knew how to be his version of funny. I'm not taking anything away from him, but he surrounded himself with just brilliance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it only made him funnier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it only made him funnier.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think the fault of comedy often, I guess what this all ties into is we have such egos as comedians or comedic personalities or performers that you don't really want someone to outshine you because you're like, it's my show. You're like, it's a Jason Nash show.

I don't want fucking someone else to be the guy that takes the thing. But that's foolish because it's only going to make you look even better. I mean, look at a guy like Bateman. Arrested Development was so good because he was a straight man. He was hysterical. Yeah. But it's because you had all these other great nuanced characters around you.

Someone's got to ground it down. Yeah, there's got to be something. Remember News Radio? Oh, I love News Radio. That was Rogan. And that was Dave Foley. Yeah, Foley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to have something that pulls's got to be. Remember News Radio? Oh, I loved News Radio. That was Rogan. And that was Dave Foley. Yeah, Foley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, you've got to have something that pulls everything back to earth a little bit. Yeah. But that's the problem a lot of times in modern comedy. And I think it transfers over into the digital world. Everybody wants to be funny. We all want to be the best of the thing. But there's a rhythm to it that makes it. But Sonny actually doesn't have anyone grounding it down.

Yeah, I think Dee does it pretty well. But they all kind of change hands on who's the grounded one each episode. Right. Like, Charlie is typically, you know, off the rails. You're right. But every episode, somebody has to be a little bit down to earth. And then they'll have episodes where Caitlin is insane. And then they'll have episodes where, you know, Mac is a little bit more centered.

It just—I think they change hands when they do that but that shows rare man that's impossible to do that again would be I don't know if you could ever do that again and there's not many shows out there anymore like do you get have you ever been offered like your own sitcom and stuff like that I had a chance when I tested for SNL I did

I got an NBC deal to do a show so you tested for SNL. Did you do characters? Did you do your impressions? I did characters, and I did a little bit of kind of stand-up bits. I auditioned a long time ago.

Oh, you did? Same year Fallon auditioned. No shit. You could have been Jimmy Fallon. No. Late night with Jason Nash. Would you ever do that? Would you ever host a thing?

Host a show? Yeah, like host a late night. Yeah, sure. But I mean, well, you say, yeah, sure. Well, I'm saying no, I would say no, that's not my ilk. I would never, this is about as close to hosting a thing as I'd want to be. Yeah. If I can sit one-on-one without an audience, without people. There's no need for it anymore. Well, there's a need for that thing to exist. But why would you want to go to CBS and take the 1230 slot? Like, why? So you could have a staff? Well, I think people do it for money, yeah. And convenience.

It's easy. You know, like, you don't have to do anything but show up. I mean, I shouldn't be diminutive, but there's a lot of people helping. Now you're in there and you're talking to people you don't want to talk to. Your show's cool. You're talking to people that you want to talk to. That's a fact, yeah. And so in there and you're talking to people you don't want to talk to your show is cool you're talking to people that you want to talk to that's a fact yeah and so i just don't think that i don't think they're going to be around soon you might be right but also it may just morph into something else you know theo von gets fucking two three million

views on his podcast yeah i mean it's insane yeah and he doesn't even speak english it's crazy It's insane. Yeah. And he doesn't even speak English. It's insane. It's crazy. I want to dig more into you. Okay?

I want to dig you out. Born in Boston. When did you move here? I moved here, fuck, man, right around 2001. Like, I remember I got here and the World Trade Center happened. So I missed it. That's your fault. Yeah.

That was all your fault. You left and, like, he's gone. We can do it now. They waited for you to leave? That's insane. That's your fault. Yeah. That was all your fault. You left and like, he's gone. We can do it now. They waited for you to leave. That's insane. That's so funny. Yeah. To think that they waited for you to leave before they did it.

They weren't going to do it when I was on the East Coast. Yeah. Yeah. So you got here. I went to the beach that day. You did. How was it? Was it a nice day? The most tragic day in American history.

I remember my ex-wife was so pissed at me that day. She's like, where are you? And I'm like, we're at the beach. We're hanging. Yeah. Do you know the World Training Center, fella?'m like, we're at the beach. We're hanging. Yeah. Do you know the World Training Center, fella? You're like, you know the waves are beautiful right now? I mean, the break is perfect.

Because what can you do? You're on the West Coast. You call everybody. Everybody's fine. Yeah, we're okay. I mean, who I knew at least. Right. You know, nobody I knew was.

I was in Chicago as a kid where I grew up. And when it happened, this is how narcissistic we are. I immediately thought, well, they're going to hit Chicago next. Yes. That was immediately my, Oh, I got to hit Chicago. Yeah. Of course. Like the terrorists have, they're like Chicago. No fucking why? Aren't you, aren't you shocked that like there aren't more terrorist events? Yeah. You know what? Listen up terrorists. There should be more. What are you guys doing? You guys hanging out? You sleeping on the job? Sometimes I am. You know, one time I was really stoned at an NFL game.

Yeah. And I looked around and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's so many people. This would be a terrible, perfect place for some psychopath to do something awful. At the Grove on like December 23rd. That one I'm kind of for. I'm not going to lie. That one, no.

Like, I do that too. I'll be walking with my kids in the Grove and I'll 23rd. That one I'm kind of for. I'm not going to lie. That one, no. Like I do that too. I'll be walking with my kids in the Grove and I'll be like, oh, fuck. Like this is prime time. Because you're trapped, right? Yeah. Like that's what's scary is like there's – that's why I don't like festivals. I don't do massive concerts anymore. I'll go to a show, right?

Like if it's one band, love it. I can't do like – it's a multi--day multi-band event where you're stuck and if anything bad happens you're fucked like no way i went to coachella four like three or four one of the earliest ones because i worked in the music industry when i first moved out here as a day job and they gave us vip passes because we were rep we were repping um i don't even know maybe cypress hill at the time and they were like one of the like, like pop in throwback acts or something like that. And they brought us backstage. And back then VIP was like,

you know, on movie sets, the nicer urinals, do you know the ones that have like a sink inside? It was just that steps up to it. Exactly. That was VIP back then. Yeah.

And then that year I, it was just, even that was overwhelming. And then next year I I, it was just, even that was overwhelming. And then next year, I remember, there was an LA Times article that said, double the tickets were sold

for the very next Coachella. That's when it started to like, explode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I never ever went back. I was like, no fucking way. Yeah.

Do you do that shit? Do you like festival type of stuff? Burning Man? Yeah, I have to go for content and stuff. See, dude. Like Burning Man? I've been to Burning Man, but a long time ago That was when you were trying to like Center your Chi or some shit trying to find yourself

No, I know I went for Comedy Central. We went and made like made like a video I'm never going to like do my Chi or whatever. I'm going to like make content What do you want? Okay? So this is a real question then when are you doing shit for you for real outside of content? Are you I were I started working out this year. I know. I see on the internet, dude. So that's my thing. You think I'm not liking those pictures?

I'm double tapping, dude. I see you jacked up. I see it. What changed that you were like, I'm going to work out more? I felt like shit all the time. Do you eat? Did you eat shitty food? Yeah.

I have like a real food problem. Like I don't drink and I don't do drugs, but I like, I'll like tear through like food at like three in the morning. What's your sad meal? What's the thing that if you're bummed out and you're like, I'm just going to be a piece of shit and I don't do drugs, but I like, I'll like tear through like food at like three in the morning. What's your sad meal? What's the thing that if you're bummed out and you're like, I'm just going to be a piece of shit and I'm going to eat this. Queen's chicken with broccoli back to the Jewish Chinese food restaurant. Just scarfing it down.

I just love it. I just love, I was fat when I was a kid. And then, so now I'm just like, so now I don't, I have like a very strict eating regimen. I don't eat till three o'clock.

Every day. Yeah. Every day. Why? I try to do intermittent fasting. Oh my God. So I will try to strict eating regimen. I don't eat until 3 o'clock. Every day? Yeah, every day. Why? I try to do intermittent fasting. Oh, my God. So I try to eat for eight hours. But it's a vanity thing for sure.

It's fun to look good. You feel good. But honestly, you just feel better just going upstairs. I'm way older than you, so it's like— How old are you? I'm 49. No, you're not. I'm 40.

What do you mean? That's way older than you. Oh, it is? 10 years. Because you'll see'm 49. No, you're not. I'm 40. What do you mean? That's way older than you. Oh, it is? 10 years. Because you'll see. Bobby's 51, so. Yeah, I was looking at him the other day, and I was like, damn, he looks so fucking good. Because Asians.

He looks young. Well, because he has no worries. You have kids. You have a family. You have things that have come. You know what I mean? Your life is real. He has no life.

Yes, yes. He has no fucking kids. He has no kids. Because Portnoy said this to me. Dave Portnoy talks about me sometimes on his podcast. And he was saying, first he said I look like shit, which I did. And then I got in shape. And then they brought me up again.

And he was like, I think he looks like shit still. He's like, he looks weird. What a dick. Right. Which is all fun. I love him. But I said that to him when I was on the show. I was like, you don't have fucking kids, Dave.

Like, you know, you got a great life. You go from Miami to the Hamptons. Dubai or whatever the fuck. Yeah, yeah, like, you know. He's a young guy too, though. He's only 40-something. He's like 44, 43, something like that. Yeah, he's a young guy.

He's pretty young. You're young too, though. See, you say old because that's part of the bit with those other young guys. But you only say that because you're surrounded by 25-year-olds. Well, yeah, that became the bit in the videos was like the old guy and I think that seeps into reality and part of your brain oh yeah you just said that you're like I'm old man 49 is not fucking old yeah no you got 20 years left put into perspective you zoom in on your face what 69 I'm gonna you got a long time to

go you got a long time to go I don't know long time to go. I don't know, man. I think you do. I think you looked very happy with your new wife, by the way, or your new fiancé. I don't like the word fiancé. Sorry, but your new wife. Unless you're going to bail. Fiancé is such a pretentious word. It's a stupid word. We should find an American.

We should find an English word that makes up for interim wife. And I'm torn because she loves when I say it. But then I know when I say it to people like, oh, can my fiance come? It's like it asks people. It begs them to be like, congratulations. And I don't need them to say congratulations, but I have to say fiance. If I say girlfriend, then people are going to be like, well, what the fuck? You're not engaged.

You're not a wife already. Do you feel like you're not married yet? But what's the difference? Who cares? You're going to get married. Like I said, unless you're pulling the ripcord halfway through. When did you get married? Six years ago. Oh, so pretty new. No kids yet? No kids.

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and you're like well it could be it could be and she's like I'm going to I'm supposed to my mom flew in to go to this 80 for Brady thing

there's a new movie with Tom Brady when does that come out by the way is that out? I don't know. The premiere's on Tuesday. Who knows? Yeah, it's out.

And so they said, oh, you want to have your mom fly? We'll fly your mom out and she'll get to go. My mom loves Tom Brady. Like it's... Is he going to be there? He's going to be there on Tuesday.

Oh, wow. So we're already kind of hoping we can get a picture or some, just some interaction. Because if my mom can, if my mom can get in his presence, he will lock in with her. Yeah. She's that type of person. Well, because the trick is the film is about older women meeting Tom Brady, right? You can fuck off. I can fuck off, but she

needs to sneak in there. Yeah. So we're going to be on the carpet and we've already picked her outfit out and we're hoping we get a moment for the, for the vlog. It's so cute. It'll be really cute. So there's a second event today where we go to a tailgate. He won't be there. No. But I was trying to get my daughter to go. You heard it on the phone. Yeah. And I told her exactly what it was. Cool event. Paramount Pictures. Yeah. Free food. Why not? I said

you can bring your friends. You can bring a couple of your friends. What's missing here? And then she just goes, nah, just doesn't sound like something I'd be into. She grew up in L.A. Yeah. So they're used to this shit. I guess.

And even like the YouTube stuff, like, you know, there's pretty cool shit going on. You know, like people will bring a fucking, I don't know, like a talking parrot over to David's house or something. Which I think is fun. It is cool. And I'm like, you want to go see the talking parrot? Nah. I'm good. I like her.

She's cool. She's above all the bullshit. She's like, I don't need all that. Well, but I think it's also because they're used to that lifestyle in a sense of, it's not that they're over it. It's just that it's like, well, it just doesn't match with what she needs. And because it's not unusual, it just doesn't really. It is unusual. It's a talking parrot.

I know, dude. But she lives with you. Do you know what I mean? I don't know. She sees your bullshit all the time. How often do you get to's a talking parrot I know dude but she sees she lives with you do you know what I mean like I don't know she sees your bullshit all the time how often can you see a talking parrot

I'm giving a really bad example there's never been a talking parrot I'm trying to think of something cool that was at the like you know

like 50 Cent came and performed once sure like you wanna watch 50 Cent no no well she's probably weary he got shot so much

she doesn't wanna get in bed doesn't wanna be in bed with somebody like that. The first PA job I ever had, they had 50 Cent on this show with them. And I remember watching him. I was like 26 or something like that. And I remember watching him at this party, this high-end Hollywood party with all these like very rich, ritzy people. And I was like driving one of the guys that night, I think.

And I remember like watching him just ch guys that night I think and um I remember like watching him just chum it up with these Hollywood producers and I couldn't get out of my mind that as as a young man all I knew of him was like he was like the the head of gangster rap at the new generation yeah I was like dude this guy's a gangster that's been shot in the fucking face yeah and he's just shaking hands with these Hollywood bigwigs. It was just such a weird juxtaposition of coming where I came from. It was like, I didn't understand Hollywood shit. And then you see it and you're like, oh wow, this is

all a stage a little bit. You know what I mean? Him getting shot was obviously very real. But it was so surreal to watch a guy who was like a certified street gangster accredited just chilling with... But that goes a long way in Hollywood. Oh yeah. Hollywood people are very charmed by anything authentic. Well, just chilling with. That goes a long way in Hollywood, Paul. Oh, yeah. Hollywood people are very charmed by anything authentic.

Well, he's real as fuck. So that's why, you know, like those gangster movies do so, like Robert De Niro movies, stuff like that. Yeah. When Hollywood can get something real, they're just like, oh, yeah, whatever you want. And he's very charming, too. Well, he's actually super talented. It's beyond that.

But it was just so like, it is wild to see how Hollywood does, they do love those kind of stories. We, like rags to riches or whatever you want to call it, but they love to see someone

like rise from nothing and have something kind of tragic and awful because at face value, if I told you, hey man, we're trying to put this guy in a movie,

he's been shot in the face nine times, you'd be like, I don't know, do we want him over at the house like that would fucking scare the shit out of you but he was just a you know like they understood that like well he obviously has ability and talent that goes way beyond

to get to where he got to after all that trial and tribulation I mean in some ways selling drugs is the hardest job it's gotta be right well but everybody wants it. I guess the product moves itself a little bit. Getting away from the cops is tough, I guess. Did you ever do drugs as a little kid?

Were you a troublemaker when you were a young lad? I did. You were fat. I like that part. I was fat. We used to smoke weed, done some coke, did some acid. Oh, I did acid once, and that really changed my brain. As a young man?

Yeah, I was like 21, and I used to love sports. I used to like Boston sports and everything. And then I did acid when I was at UMass, and I swear to God, the next week I picked up the sports page, and I was just like, I used to read the actual sports page. And I was just like, never again. Acid made you hate sports. I'm like, what? What am I doing?

I don't know these people. That's an ad for don't do drugs don't do drugs do you want to not like sports anymore they say Whitey Bulger did acid in prison and turned him into a killer

it made him a murderer it made him a psychopathic murderer yeah I mean I imagine you could get to a place of psychosis

and break with acid that's why I'm not a you ever do acid yeah I did it once in high school twice maybe once or twice I didn't like it at all oh acid? Yeah, I did it once in high school. Oh, you did? Twice maybe. Once or twice. I didn't like it at all. Oh, I loved it.

Mushrooms I loved very much. Yeah, mushrooms are fun. But mushrooms I feel like I got more connected with me. Acid felt very disconnected. It felt very like... Oh, yeah? Static-y and dirty and I didn't like it. Acid and mushrooms felt the same to me, just acid was longer. Really? See, mushrooms

felt way more at peace. You ever hallucinate? on mushrooms and acid oh yeah oh yeah oh my god yeah oh my god yeah yeah i saw a lot of i went over to my buddy we used to call this kid chauncey we used to call him chauncey in high school that wasn't even his name his name was mike i don't even know why we got chauncey was a nickname we gave him for some reason it was probably mean but we went over to his house when we were on shrooms me and my buddy tyler and we go down to the basement and his dad had a framed gretzky jersey in his basement but i love where this is going well it was a frame it was a frame gretzky jersey in his basement and of course it's pride and joy and it was like yeah it was it and it was it was it was situated in the case in a way where it almost looked 3D, as if a body could be in it.

Dude, and a body was in it. In my mind, a body, Gretzky was like in that jersey. I was like, Wayne's chest is in that fucking case, dude. And everybody was like, you're out of your fucking mind, relax. I'm like, Wayne, it's breathing. I swear to God, in my mind, I saw the jersey moving in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Part of his soul is still left in that jersey.

I remember even after I was done tripping i still did think part of your soul is left in all the all of the clothing that you've ever worn when you when you give a shirt to like goodwill the next person that has it has a piece of your soul is embedded in the fabric it was just like a hippie out of mind thought i stayed with me i saw jacob dillon on the cover of a Rolling Stone in the bathroom sing One Headlight to me. One headlight. Literally for like three minutes. And I grabbed the magazine and I was like, and I brought it to my friends

and I was like, I'm not fucking kidding. I'm like, Jacob's singing. Jacob Dillon is singing. Like just such a weird. Yeah, but that tune was in your head for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now can you not hear that song ever again? No, I love that song. You do? I love Jacob Dylan, yeah. What are the songs that he'd do that I would know?

He has a song. He did a cover of Heroes by David Bowie. It's really good. Yeah, but that's Bowie's song. Did he have another song of his own that hit? Just One Headlight. That's what I mean. But isn't that magic, though,

that you could make one beautiful song and it can last decades and decades imagine doing one piece of content for YouTube and it lasting forever and you can play it forever and never having to do it ever again one joke you go out and tell one joke

that's the hardest thing about what we do comedically not to give us credit but it's like we have to continue to keep changing and growing and writing new shit so much that you sometimes don't even get to enjoy some of the jokes that you write that you love because they've got to be gone at some point and make new shit how do you know how do you that i always wonder that how do you know when you're like i'm gonna take this joke out you know it's so weird dude because it just starts dying with the audience no it's just instinct like you kind of

you know you know, you know that you're not telling it the way you used to tell it. You may say the words the exact same way, but I'm telling you something in your internal rhythm. Ah. You check yourself. You go, this is, I don't fucking.

Have you ever had another comedian come up to you and go, hey, how come you don't do the fucking airline bit anymore? 100%. And you go, it's just, I don't want to do it anymore. Yeah. I've had friends be like, I used to love that joke. I'm like, oh yeah. It's done. Yeah. Because when you put it to bed, you have to put it to bed. That's so interesting. Like my special that's out right now on Netflix, I can't do any of those jokes anymore. Not because it's like against the rules, but I just don't want to do it anymore. I feel like that's like the way to just go.

It's the stamp to be like, good night. Yeah. It it's done You got to put it to bed. That's weird cuz I make the same YouTube video every week When do you think When do you think you'll like you talked about stop morbidly? Transition away on YouTube or just stop making content. I mean if if my dream Yeah, what is your dream? I hate this. No, what is for real? What is your ultimate dream? My dream would be to like in, in 2019, I did 31 standup shows. 31. Yeah. Where'd you, where, where just like around town? No, no, no, no. I did a, I did Austin, Dallas, uh, fucking Houston. I did Tacoma.

I went around the country. Right. And I was able to fill like 300 seats. That's good. Yeah. It's not good. Let me finish. It's good for where you're at, dude. So I was able from the YouTube audience to, and then I thought I was doing good, and then my agent came to the

improv down in Irvine. And he was like, no. It's not happening. He's like, we're not going to book you anymore, man. No, he was like, he'll keep booking me. But I was like, so what did you think? And he was like, you know, and I thought I was doing fine. Sure.

I'm sure you were doing fine. I wasn't. And I mean, I think I was up there for 32 minutes, you know, 28 minutes. No, I was probably up there for 40 minutes, whatever. And then I would do like a meet and greet or whatever. And, but that would be my dream really is to like try stand up again and do a show and try. But it's just. That's another different life.

I'm just too well adjusted to my life now. You know what I mean? Another different life. I'm just too well adjusted to my life now. Right. You know what I mean? Like I, and when I say that,

what I mean is, when I see, when I used to see things, I would get pissed off. And now I'm just kind of like, yeah, well, that's how they are.

Right. Right. You know what I mean? Your brain used to, you used to naturally make material. And now you're like, I don't want to be upset about that. I'd rather just move on with my life. Well, it's like when someone

gets really mad about someone can convince me of anything. If you were like a big Trump guy and you started talking to me about Trump, I'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, maybe. Yeah, you might get in. And at my core, I'm like, I don't like Trump. I didn't vote for Trump.

But if you sat here and you were like, but yeah, the economy was doing so good. And I'd be like. Sounds like you did like him. I like that part. You know what I mean? Yeah. But then I don't like, you know, sort of the social issues or whatever. Sure.

I don't like that. But yeah, that would probably be my dream. And then to do some sort of like, you know, show like a scripted show. Yeah. Make your own show. Like a single camera kind of show. Sure. But it's just so hard.

It's just like you just make content every day and you're just like, you're doing that. You know, I'm doing Snapchat. I'm doing the podcast. I'm doing, we have all these videos coming out. We just went and visited the world's most expensive gym. And it's just tough. It's like when you get away from, because you're lucky, you go and you act and you get into that rhythm. And you're working with writers.

And I'm sure that inspires you in your own material. And you're writing material too. Yeah. But when you start to do YouTube and stuff, you realize right away that like scripted stuff, it just doesn't pop. And it's also really hard to get the locations. And what people really like on YouTube is real

raw raw stuff and real moments and oh my god you know Byron fell off the shed or whatever it is

you know Byron's always falling off the shed by the way fucking Byron is unreal what is his deal with sheds well you know he has that peg leg it's tough

he does do but you're right people want real authentic versions of why they liked you in the first place which whatever your circle that you have cultivated whatever that may be you know some people do like their family is part of their bit you know the kreischer birch family is just as much part of his personality and his act as anything else who you say bur you say Burt? Kreischer, yeah. So it's like, he's embedded that as part of kind of who he really is. So they like to see that a lot.

People really do. But that's not in his stand-up act. You're talking about on his YouTube channel. No, he does put it on his stand-up. He talks about Isla all the time. He talks about his kids constantly. But the kids don't come out on stage. I think they have been out with him.

They don't travel with him. But I mean, I think he's very much, he loves putting Leigh-Anne in videos. She has her own podcast. he's very much he loves putting leanne in videos like he she has her own podcast she does yeah but he loves integrating them into the system that's just as much of a that's what i'm just saying they the audience loves that shit they do because they want to feel like they're inside with you my best podcast is not my best but my best performing podcast is my fiancee right whereas i've had phineas on i've had Phineas on, I've had Danny DeVito on, I've had, you know, like, but, but she's, you know, easy on the eyes too. Yes. And you're so

not that it's a good balance. Do you know what I mean? It's like, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta give it a shift. I feel bad for the people watching the two of us. No, no, no. It's fine. It's fine. They'll get over it. You know what they've done? They're watching something else. They're just playing this in the background. They're listening, but they're watching something else. Yeah. Wait, that was your highest one. Your fiance was your highest video, huh? Yeah, because it's just like what you said. People just want to know like, oh.

Now, is she going to come more into your world now, do you think? I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know if I want that. Do you want that? No, you don't want that. I mean, I prefer no. Right, but what if she's like... What if I need a video? Babe, go on.

She's really good about that too. She'll be like, yeah, I'll do it, babe. She doesn't care. No. Was your dream when you moved here or was your aspirations when you were young to be an actor anyway? Did you want to be an actor?

I think I wanted to be a comedian. Be a comedian. Yeah. Anything in the world of comedy. I think I wanted to be, yeah, like on a show or, like, you know, I'll be on Saturday Night Live or be, like, have Jack Black's career. Something like that would obviously be my dream.

Jack Black is killing it. Jack Black's the best. He looks like he has the most fun every day. He, like, skates in his backyard, makes good food. Yeah. Does maybe a goofy, funny video. Yeah, his videos are actually really good. And then he gets to just chill out.

Yeah, he makes good TikToks. He seems like he's got that, uh, some people seem like they've got the system figured out. Yeah, I feel like Galifianakis figured it out too. One of those guys where like not on social, doesn't really do much, but when he does pop up, it's so fun and wonderful. And then he just kind of just disappears.

Where is Zach? Have you seen him? Only God knows, man. He's on his own path. I mean, you know. Has he been in anything lately? Because we were just talking about him. Like where is he?

I don't know. I don't know what he's been in recently. I mean, I love Baskets for a long time. I thought that was one of the best shows that FX ever put together. Do you think he has enough money? Yes. Where he's just... Yes.

Yes. The answer is way yes. You think? Oh, I know. From The Hangover? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they made a couple of bucks. How does that work?

It was the highest grossing comedy franchise in the studio's history. I know that. I know that. But at the time yeah nobody knows who zach is that was hangover one oh and they made two and three yeah yeah yeah those were paydays baby oh how much how much i imagine i imagine speculate i imagine we're speculating here we're speculating i imagine he walked away from the entire franchise when it's all said and done with whatever, you know, third-party sales and digital and blah, blah, blah.

I imagine he walked away with 50 or 60 from just that. Yeah. No. Grand. I think he— No way. Yeah, probably in total. That's just a—I'm just—it's a stupid guess. But I do think after all no way. Yeah, probably in total. I, that's just a, I'm just a, it's a stupid guess,

but I do think, uh, after all is said and done because of, dude, that was a cultural, like an iconic film. It wasn't. So what it did in perpetuity for a decade after it released, it was a, it like changed comedy filmmaking a little bit. People wanted to make that. Todd Phillips, it was like another coming for him. It was like the second coming for that guy. I just feel like it was so big culturally that if- And that couldn't happen now. It could. With the comedy?

Yeah, but it's going gonna take something really unique and and that movie was so fucking original it was so original and it was so simple right it's it's i i did it i did a i did a tv show uh that bombed miserably that failed that we did we got one season and it bombed it was called mixology but the two writers uh that wrote that john and scott they wrote the original version of the hangover they wrote the two writers that wrote that John and Scott they wrote the original version of The Hangover they wrote the very first version

that was their movie okay yeah yeah yeah and they wrote this sitcom I did called Mixology that just fucking ate shit tanked but

but even they got paid and what happened after you did the SNL audition they offered you like a development deal yeah when I tested

for SNL I came back to LA and then I got a phone call two days later from Lauren's office and they flew me back to New York they made you go back

yeah my agents were like this is it you got the gig baby I kind of felt that way a little bit because I had had meetings with I won't say people's names

but people that worked in the system that were like hey they really like you over there they really want you to do the show.

Yeah. And I was like, well, that'd be great. And then I went back and Lorne and I just sat and talked for a couple hours in his, you know, maybe it was an hour and some change in his office. And, uh... Podcast. Yeah, we did a podcast.

Lorne's podcast you did. Yeah, which, by the way, doesn't get enough views. A lot of people don't know about it. But he's a sponsor. That's the problem. His sponsorship is hard. Lorne should have a podcast. He 100% should.

That would be a killer podcast. His voice is so like, yeah, his voice is great. Well, that's where Dr. Evil came from. You know that, right? Yes, yes. Yeah, Dr. Evil. Yeah, and somebody else used it.

Mark McKinney used it. Yeah, yeah. Kids in the Hall. That was like an iteration of him. I used to work there. You did? Yeah. For Kids in the Hall.

I was Norm's, no, I was norm's assistant at snl were you really yeah when he did update no shit yeah yeah that was that was like where i really why were you a page at first or something no i was in the intern program right i i i did like my senior fall semester in the intern program with karen nathanson who was like uh in the video production thing whatever whatever. Then I would run out, get them food, and then they hired me for a year, and then I left because I got a job at MTV for more money. They were only paying me like 400 bucks a week.

But you were Norm's assistant? And I was Norm's assistant, and I wish I could like go back to those days. Do you have any Norm stories? Yeah, like, you know, god damn. Yeah, I hear this is my best Norm story. Yeah. So I went to, the guys would like take me out, like Keckner and Norm and Spade.

They're all fucking gems, like really, really nice guys. They were always so nice to me. And I think they liked having me around because I was like a young kid and i would i would laugh you know and i was just in fucking heaven like so they took me out they took me out one night and they're getting drunk and whatever and so i um i meet this australian girl and um you know we go back fool around whatever and i come into work the next day and i turn to norm and i go i go i'm gonna tell you something man i go and don't tell anybody and he goes oh yeah yeah yeah i'm going to tell you something, man. And don't tell anybody. And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not going to tell anybody. And I go, last night with this girl, the girl at the bar,

she snorted cocaine off my cock like that. And I was like, I don't know, I'm 20 years old or whatever. And I'm like, I couldn't believe it. I'm in the city for the first time, you know what I mean? And he goes, wow. He goes, oh, my God, that's crazy. Cocaine over your cock. And I go, but don't tell anybody.

You know, I don't want anyone to know. And so then maybe like, I don't know, five minutes later, the fucking UPS guy comes in, you know, with the packages or whatever. And he's like, oh, hey, Daryl. And he's like, hey, Norm, how you doing? He's like, hey, you see this guy right here? Guy likes to get cocaine snorted off his cock. and he's like, oh, hey, Daryl. And he's like, hey, Norm, how you doing? He's like, hey, you see this guy right here? Guy likes to get cocaine snorted off his cock.

And I go, I was like, you know, now I wouldn't be embarrassed, but I'm fucking mortified. I'm like, I'm going to get fired. And he did it for like three months. At any point I'd be standing there with the jokes he'd be like Jason go get the jokes and he'd be smoking in the hallway

and he'd be like no no cause you know he fucking had like a really high bar for jokes and he'd be like fuck that and I'd be like oh my god and then there'd be like a page standing next to him and he'd be like hey you know Jason guy likes to have cocaine so fucking funny he did it to my mom he said it to my mom once Like, hey, you know Jason? Guy likes to have cocaine. Snort it off his cock.

So fucking funny. He did it to my mom. He said it to my mom once. No! Yeah, yeah. And then I remember because I was, the other part of the job was that I would work the door at the parties. And my mom came down for the party.

At the after party. The after party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she, and I did, I was trying to keep Norm away from my mom. So he wouldn't say that to my mom. And of course he goes, you know, Jason likes to have cocaine. Snorted off his cock. And my mom was great.

She goes, well, I bet you do a lot of weird stuff too, Norm. Which is pretty funny. Oh, dude. Yeah, so that was my best. But he was like just so fucking smart. And just so like the best thing he taught me, he was like, he's like, oh, he's like,

oh, the punchline should be as further, as far away from the setup as you possibly could think. That was what he taught me. And I was like, oh, that's really interesting. And Downey was there.

That's wild. So Downey would write a lot of his update stuff. And Frank Spassiano was a big, he wrote a lot of the jokes. It was, it was cool. It was a cool time. If you go back and watch those updates

you're like wow I'd love to do that they're so gangster they're just like that was my favorite there's lots of times when the audience is not on board

for several jokes you know now when like Colin Jost does it and Michael Che it's great like they're really good those jokes

are very very good jokes are fucking boom boom and everybody's on board with everything Norm would go three four jokes. The audience was like, oh.

He loved pushing the buttons. That was like his favorite thing. On national TV. Well, that's what got him fucking fired. Talking shit about OJ. I mean, the balls to drop a job like that just because you're like, no, I think it's funny. And they're like, we shouldn't talk about that. He's like, no, it's funny.

We're going to talk about it. I think he was just so, he was like the original punk rock comic he didn't give a fuck he never really cared at all because he knew he was always going to be good because he was so so talented and i don't know if that was his perspective i'm speaking out of turn but i imagine he just knew that like he was very good at what he did and so he wasn't gonna like kind of you know right cow tail or whatever he got hired on dennis miller by sending in one joke no yeah he sent an odd joke he said in one joke do you know what the joke was god you can look it up but i forgot what it was but it and i thought

that was like so brilliant i think he i think he what he just like did so much stand-up and was such a loner, and it was just on his own so much that I felt like not caring was the only way that he could get through it. Sure. You know, like— It's a personality trait for sure, though. Like, he didn't have Bobby and all your friends that you have kind of like, you guys are at the store. Right, right, right. You know, bringing each other up and stuff. He was just like a fucking loner.

Well, a lot of comics are loners. It also culturally has changed so much, right? Like I think his generation was very different than ours. So like New York back then too, like Colin Quinn and those guys, it's just ball busting. Keith Robinson, that's like ball busting, talk shit, fuck with each other.

They love each other, but it's New York so much ball busting. It just me, it's like me busting talk shit yep fuck with each other they love each other but it's new york so much ball busting it just me it's like me against the world and i'm sure prior to me la was that way but like when i started to come up as a young kid we just kind of were all so poor and scrounging together it was like we had to create a community because we were it was tough i mean i think like we slowly to create a community because we were, it was tough. I mean, I think like, we slowly but surely gravitated to people like Fahim, who you just said,

Fahim was my oldest friend in comedy. We met when we started together. He's so funny. When he moved here from Seattle, I just moved to Long Beach from Arizona where I went to school and we became friends instantaneously. But like,

because you're in the trenches together, you're going through such a fucking shitty time and you got no money and no, I mean, all you have is aspirations. And I think you learn to really bond with other people through that and it creates this little community, which I think we birthed a little bit out here at the store. Because the generation above us wasn't like that, man. It was dog eat dog. It was more, it was like shut the fuck up, get out of my way. Yeah, you're a young to be scared to go to the store when i was doing stand-up used to be a nightmare i'm not gonna fucking go there yeah it used to be a nightmare the older generation

of bullies man everybody was a bully yeah and i think that's changed it's changed shape over time because we all realize you're much better off with a support system than alone alone sucks dude like doing anything that's why like like, not going back in, but the community that you guys birthed and created from the Vine world and the YouTube creation world and all that stuff, like it did birth a really safe place for you guys to all kind of work together and use each other.

That's super healthy. It only makes your comedy better. Like we said about Seinfeld and these shows, I just think it makes you stronger as, you know, what is it, rising tide, what is it, the tide rises all ships or whatever? What's that fucking phrase? Why can't I think of that?

I just think it- I have no idea what you're saying. You know, I have no idea. No, I've heard something like that. I'm not too smart. That tide rises all ships. It's just like everyone's's gonna benefit when we're all kind of in it together

and we're all helping each other grow because for years as a comic you are you against the world uh huh

it's all you and then you realize you're like this is fucking miserable as shit you know what I mean you can get dark as fuck I don't know if you've

ever had a chance but you should read Daryl Hammond's book um yes god why can't I think of the title of that fucking book uh it dark as fuck. I don't know if you've ever had a chance but you should read Daryl Hammond's book. Yes. God, why can't I think of the title of that fucking book? It's all about his mom.

It's like... His mom was awful to him, right? Yeah, I mean, there's so much tragic shit. I mean, it's just filled with so much... It's like... He was always super nice. He was, I mean... Sweet guy. And that was a guy that talked about, I think it's called... God, if you're not up there, that's what it is. Yeah. If you're not up there, I'm. Sweet guy. And that was a guy that talked about, I think it's called, God, if you're not up there, that's what it is. Yeah.

If you're not up there, I'm fucked. And it's like, he talked about the kind of lonely struggle that is SNL and the world of standup that, and performing, I should say that like, even if he did good, he would still feel a little bit of shame and leave out the back door and not want to be on stage for the curtain call. He never wanted to go out there. And I think he talks about in the book, he rarely was seen on the curtain calls because he just fucking hated it yeah he used to like just emerge from his office and he would you wouldn't you'd almost

forget about him right and then he'd emerge from office with like a cigarette and and then he'd go on stage and fucking kill it and kill and then and disappear and it's just like yeah it's such a loner system. Yeah. Like, that is why I think Norm was also so fucking brilliant. Man, that's crazy that you got coke snorted off your cock, man. What a world, dude. What a world. I am going to keep telling that story.

Please. Whenever somebody's like, Jason, as you know, I'm like, dude, do you know he likes to get coke snorted off his dick? I mean, how much better of a send off of a relationship if that's the last thing you ever remember

about Norm that's probably the greatest version of any of that stuff and what was sad was like I tried to like

I would DM him and like try to keep up with him or I had his phone number at one point and it just didn't never connected he just wasn't

you know yeah and then he seemed to get... He seemed to get a lot softer over the years, just from what I would see online. Because when I knew him, he was pretty fucking pissed off. Tough guy.

Yeah, tough guy. I'm not gonna do that. Fuck this. And then it seemed like online, he really opened up as he got older. What do you think that was? I think he just got older, and maybe he got cancer, and he was like, okay. up as he got older what do you think that was i think he just got older and maybe he got cancer and he like was like okay i think when you get sick you probably gain a

little bit of perspective did you ever hear when he he has this this tweet series where he went to bob dylan's house which is just insane it's just like maybe like four years after the fact he just sent out like 10 tweets about his night at bob dylan's house well what happened he just sent out like 10 tweets about his night at Bob Dylan's house. What happened? He just like, he's just like, he's like, they, they asked me to come up. They summoned me to Bob Dylan's house and they called me for dinner at 845. And then the next tweet's like, I arrived. Bob had, Bob had a meal waiting for me. We sat and we talked about, I mean,

I don't want to paraphrase cause I don't really remember, but it's just basically he has dinner with Dylan. They play music and then Bob just, like, leaves. And it's just like, but just the fact that Bob Dylan called Norm MacDonald to the house. It was like, come on. It was like, wow, like, Bob Dylan saw his genius. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Like, Bob Dylan saw it. Like, that's fucking cool. But it is kind of, that's that world of celebrity where they're like, you come over, eat my food, I'll play music, but then I'm going to leave at any moment. That's just great. Like, those are stories that you hear that you're like, yeah, for sure. That seems like, like I had a friend get invited to Sting's house in Malibu.

Yeah. And he's like, he immediately called me and was like, should I go to that? I'm like, yeah. Yeah. He's like, well, I'm afraid it's going to be this like insane, like or like orgy and i'm like what are you scared of yeah go to the orgy yeah i was like go he's like but i know but what if like what if i have to like fuck a guy i'm like so you fuck a guy at sting's house man grow up but it's like those crazy stories to get invited to these little like hollywood weird parties i can't tell it's his story to tell to get invited to these little Hollywood weird parties.

I can't tell. It's his story to tell. I'm not allowed to tell. Nothing bad happened to him. He's dead now. He's no longer with us. No, but I never am a part of those worlds. You know, like what feeds into the conspiracy theory of like a Hollywood cabal

or some shit, like there's some weird Illuminati. You ever been to Elon Musk's house? No, I've never been to anybody famous's house.

I've never been, the most I've ever had is like been at a party with someone who's very famous. Right. Even still, those parties usually

fucking suck. Yeah. There's like a million people and they're boring and the only parties that are fun is like at our level where, like Tim's house. It's like, those are fun. That was really fun. Well, it's fun. It's like a million people and they're boring. And the only parties that are fun are, is like at our level where, like Tim's house. It's like, those are fun.

That was really fun. Well, it's fun. It's like food and music and joking around and seeing people you haven't seen in years. And it's that, that to me is the only kind of party that I really want to go to. Yeah. Like, like one night, one night I got invited to go to this thing by proxy, not truly invited. It was like, you can tag along right to like leona dicaprio's birthday right and i was like i'm not going to that why because they're

going to take one look at me and be like why are you here do you know what i mean like yeah but you can't go through life like that oh yes i can yeah and i'm doing no no no he's doing great you missed you missed it i can't go to that thing. Why? Because I would have no business. Would you feel anxiety there? Yeah, yeah. And also, like, I'm tagging along. I'm not really invited. It was kind of like a,

it was kind of like a you could sneak in with us type of shit. Uh-uh. I don't want to do that shit. I don't know. I mean, I feel like. Yeah, but you're going because you might make some content

out of that shit. Well, you're definitely not filming Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, you are. No. And you should. No, you're not. shit. Well, you're definitely not filming Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, you are. No. And you should. No, you're not. And you should.

You're definitely not. But, you know, you can go and have the experience. I mean, I think true when you meet these guys, these really high-level celebrities, you're disappointed. Sometimes, yeah. For sure. No, that's true.

Right, you're like— Some of them are really, really cool and live up to the hype. And then some of them, you're like— Who's somebody that lived up to the hype? Jim Carrey. Working for Jim was fucking wild. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, he was my boss for a couple years. And he was like. Oh, on that show on Showtime? Yeah, that guy was. Is he around a lot? No, no, no. But he was there sometimes. No, yeah, he was there when he needed to be there.

Right. And he was. Was he in the show too? No. He wasn't. He just produced it. He was an EP. He was unequivocally exactly what I wanted him to be.

You know? He was like a god to me as a kid it was like my fucking literal hero yeah like eddie every facial emulation i had was because of him it was like i was just trying to be that guy yeah uh we met him at the powerful sonic premiere oh yeah and i was we were all fucking on mars after we met him he's a cool dude, man. He probably lived up to the hype. He's about as real and down to earth as he can be for someone who is a megastar. I think somebody posted the other day something that blew my mind

that the Mask, Dumb and Dumber, and Ace Ventura dropped all in 94. I think that's right. No way. I swear to God, somebody was like, Mask, Dumb and Dumber, and Ace Ventura. I have to's right. No way. No, I swear to God, somebody was like, wait, I have to look it up because I was like, somebody had said,

tell me this isn't the craziest shit you've ever fucking seen. And I was like, how could this be? I just, I was like, there's no way they all came. And obviously, because you shoot film,

people don't realize, you know, people are like, oh, that movie comes out this year. And you're like, yeah, they shot it three fucking years ago you know sometimes that's just the way

that film goes but like here let's see I wanna I just wanna know just because the hardest I ever laughed in a movie theater

was the trailer for Pet Detective 2 so funny that's the hardest I ever laughed because it starts out and you think it's an action movie

and it's like from the depths of the jungle you know and it's like there from the depths of the jungle. You know, and it's like, there's one man who will fight and then Jim Carrey just pops up. All right, so here, look at this. The Mask, 94. Dumb and Dumber, 94.

Ace Ventura, 94. Unreal. I mean, you want to talk about a fucking hit machine? 94 Ace Ventura, 94 The Mask, 94 Dumb and Dumber. Then the very next year in 95 was Batman Forever, where he was the Joker. Wow. And Tommy Lee Jones was Two-Face.

And then Ace Ventura. And then the cable guy. Then Liar Liar the very next year. Truman Show the very next year. That's a run. Yeah, the motherfucker made bangers, dude. This guy was, you know, he still is. And then Eternal Sunshine a run. Yeah, the motherfucker made bangers, dude. This guy was, you know, he still is. Then Eternal Sunshine

a few years later, like, you know. I'm always impressed with him just like on a talk show. Like, remember when he used to go on Letterman and stuff? And it'd be like insane. Yeah. It'd be like fresh material. Right. And he'd just fucking crush. And now he's extremely zen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I foolishly asked him one time at a party.

We were at the fucking uh hollywood tower hotel and we're having like a nice conversation and it was like going along too well so at some point i was gonna fuck it up yeah and i said where are you living now jim like as if to say are you in la like you still live in la i said where are you living now? And he's like, where do we live? And I was like, I don't know. And he's like, where do we live? Where do we live? And I immediately knew I was in like some philosophical trap. And I was like, fuck, I'm never going to be able to get out of this.

I was like, you know, if we're present, we live everywhere. You know, I was like, he was just. And you're not that guy. You're not the philosophical, like spiritual guy. I live in the valley. That's, I was like, he was just, he was. And you're not that guy. No, no. You're not the philosophical, like, deep, like, spiritual guy. I live in the valley. That's what I would have said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do I live in the valley?

That's awesome. But I think he was the, yeah, he was the one that lived up to the most hype of all. I can't even, I really can't name one that didn't live up to the hype because I don't really have any celebrity. Oh, man, I can't wait to... I don't... I never had that. He was probably one of the only ones I actually was, like, really wanted to meet bad. There was no other guy as a kid.

I mean, like, Schwarzenegger and those, like, action heroes when I was a kid. Yeah. But that's... I don't know. I know that was all... Tom Cruise I met. He was cool. Really?

Yeah, he's the fucking man. Well, he's a... I mean, he's, like, the last movie star. And I'm not even, like, a huge, like... I mean, I like Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise I met. He was cool. Really? Yeah, he's the fucking man. Well, I mean, he's like the last movie star. And I'm not even like a huge, like, I mean, I like Tom Cruise. He made some hits. Yeah. I used to jerk off to Jerry Maguire. I used to love that opening scene when they're fucking. It was one of my favorites.

I would rhyme the VHS. I'm sorry, what did you say? I used to jerk off to Jerry Maguire. The scene where he's with Rod Tidwell. Show me the money! That's what made me cum. Really? No, the scene, the very first scene

he's fucking. I thought that was so hot, I used to rewind it and jerk off to it. I like that joke in your new special about having a finger in your back. Fingering my asshole? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an elevated claim, man. And after every show

when I used to do that, people would be like, is that? Do you do that? Don't like is that do you do that don't you hate that I'm like you'll never know man the beauty is you'll never know I hate when people take things too literally

but that's the kind of that's like the beauty of comedy is like well I'm not gonna tell you even if it was true or wasn't true it's like just make it up on you the whole point of the whole special was you construct comedy

in your own way that's what the cheeseburger was a metaphor for and I talk about it and it's like you're gonna build this the way you wanna build it so whether or not it's real just fucking eat it up

I was like who gives a shit just enjoy it it doesn't matter if any of it by the way none of it's real if you wanna be one of these philosophical kooks none of it's real we're all just fucking having fun and trying to make something that makes you feel something different don't you feel like I don't know like being a comedian in this age it's it's it's it's kind of a pain in

the ass in a way i understand what you i know what you mean but also we don't play that game anymore it's like for a while people were like oh this can be what's gonna happen with comedy and what can you say and blah blah no man that that bullshit. I think that's an echo chamber of the world that we live in. But the truth is the rest of the country, most people want to just feel normal and laugh at bullshit again. I don't believe that there's this. It's nice that it's dying down. I just don't believe it ever was that real. I think it was inflated and we thought it was real. and then we realized it was not at all. I think we were trapped in our houses over COVID and everybody started to go nuts.

Everyone became this panicky, loopy look, you know, they're going to come after us. We're not going to be allowed to say anything anymore. It was all bullshit. That's not true at all. It's just America's not any more free or any less free than it ever was for language. It's just we made it seem more free or any less free than it ever was for language.

It's just we made it seem that way. You know? Unless Google and YouTube keeps restricting us. What's your take on Kanye? I watched the end of— Good dude. Great message. What he's saying makes sense.

Last night I watched the end of You People, which was good, and they played a Kanye song, and I was like, whoa, Netflix doesn't give a fuck. Well, that was probably made significantly before all this bullshit. No, played a Kanye song. Yeah. And I was like, whoa, Netflix don't give a fuck. Well, that was probably made significantly before all this bullshit. No, the movie went up last night. No,

I'm saying, but the, but the, they probably had that inserted a long time ago. Take a song out of the movie. I guess. Yeah,

that's true. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's true. You could. Maybe it's a choice. Maybe it is.

What was the, what was the song? Um, N Words in Paris. I think. It was... Yeah. I think that's at the end. That shit cray. See, you know it. Great song. So when I go to Runyon now and I listen to Kanye...

Do you feel weird as a Jew that you shouldn't be listening to him? If other people come, I turn it down. Because I don't wear headphones to protect my ears. So I just listen to it on my phone. You're that guy. You're running outside with the phone outside. I hate that guy. Fuck that guy.

Get some headphones. Grow up. What are you talking to her? Protect your ears. Yeah, you don't want damage. I hike every day. So I don't want ear damage. I already can barely hear. What?

What'd you say? You can barely hear now? No, I can hear you, but I have trouble at a place. You do? A little bit. That's sad. I have headphones that are a major part of my life. What'd you say? What do I think about Kanye? Long story short.

You don't have to give me an opinion. No, I will. I think it's fucking I think about Kanye? Long story short. You don't have to give me an opinion, but... No, I will. I think it's fucking... Oh, what the fuck, bro? That's so weird. That's so weird. Andrew, are you playing a prank on me? No. Dude, that's weird we're talking about Kanye.

That may be the weirdest thing that's happened to me in a long time. That was weird we were talking about Kanye and the camera's broken out, right? I don't know. Let me see. Is this a prank? No, I swear to God, it's not. No, I don't know. Let me see. This is a prank. No, I swear to God The cameras are still on oh good, which means we got it for the podcast. Holy shit, dude. Is there someone out there? No, no Holy crap Okay, let's just stop talking about Kanye. Look what you did.

Let's talk about something else. Look what you fucking did. I know, man. I didn't know he's everywhere. Alright, well, let's sign off before we get murdered. Holy crap. What a good episode we've just had. The lights just went out in the middle of it in the creepiest way possible. If you're listening, go on YouTube and watch it because I don't know why that happened. I have

no explanation for that. But none of the cameras went out. No, everything is still rolling and you'll see that. Alright, we're going to end the episode as fast as we can. One word or one phrase. Look in that camera right there. Say one word or one phrase to take us out. Go ahead. Uh, fucking go for it in life. Do not listen to other people.

Kanye. In here we pour whiskey. Whiskey. Whiskey. Whiskey. Whiskey. You were that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy. people. Kanye.