Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Jim Gaffigan

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

Santino sits down with Jim Gaffigan and we take a call from Tim Dillon and chat about being the third funniest in his family, growing up in the midwest and we of course go in DEEP about food. COME S...EE ME ON TOUR!!! https://www.andrewsantino.com ORDER SOME MERCH!!! https://www.andrewsantinostore.com Join our Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/whiskeygingerpodcast SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! BALLSY - keep your balls well groomed Go to https://ballwash.com/whiskeyginger20 Get 20% off plus free shipping ROMAN - Get help with ED today Go to https://getroman.com/whiskey $15 off plus FREE shipping SQUARESPACE - The best website developer ever https://squarespace.com/whiskey 10% off first purchase of website or domain DOOR DASH 25% off plus ZERO delivery fees Download Door Dash app and enter code WHISKEY Follow Santino on Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Whiskey Ginger Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast/ & https://twitter.com/whiskeyginger_ Whiskey Ginger Clips: http://www.youtube.com/c/WhiskeyGingerPodcastClips Produced and edited by Joe Faria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. If this is your first time joining us on the show, welcome to the show. Man, we got a good one for you today, like my man Steve Harvey say. It's Jim Gaffigan. Come on. One of the most iconic comedians of all time. Such an incredible joke writer. Such a genius. Watch his new special that's out right now. He's a comedy monster, and that's the facts. watch his new special that's out right now. He's a comedy monster, and that's the facts. His special's out right now on Netflix. As it were, he is a brilliant comedian.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I love this dude. So smart, so funny, so cool. Right now, you want to come see me. You want to see this ginge, this young buck. Right now, this weekend, I'm in Atlanta and D.C. Atlanta, come on, let's go. I'm here right now, D.C. tomorrow night. Atlanta and D.C. The rest of the tour dates, Kansas City, St. Louis, Chicago, February 5th, Chicago Theater.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Let's go. I'm so excited. Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, Albany, Foxwoods Casino, Green Bay with Chrissy D. And then Vegas. We're adding dates as we go. Go to andrewsantino.com for the tickets. andrewsantino.com to come see Support Your Boy right now. Enough rambling from me.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Let's go to the episode. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You are that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no.
Starting point is 00:01:24 This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean it sincerely once again today. It's Mr. Jim Gaffigan. Well, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Jim, thank you so much for being here. This is a nice meeting of recessive genes here, right? It is. Are you from a long line of us? I'm mostly, there's some blonde here and there. My mom was blonde. I have a sister that has my coloring, but a lot of redheads in your family? Just my grandmother.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I'm the only one. My mother is one of 10 children. None of them. One of them had a little bit when he was a kid but like just you know your deformity yeah i'm a freak but look at how bright mine is was yours ever this obnoxious no but like when you were a boy it was super bright right it was gross i was always a toe head i was always white blonde yeah you're like i'm kind of uh but i feel like it's i'm an unofficial redhead in a way well the irish side of you gets the pass but you're like we wouldn't let you into one of the functions but we would respect you because of your you know because i'm an outcast you're outcast yeah you're outcastness gait. You walk like someone who isn't of the normal species.
Starting point is 00:02:46 So was the ginger thing, it was not always a thing, or was it always a thing in your lifetime? Always was a thing in my lifetime, but I used to get called Opie. I went to a school in Chicago, LaSalle. In what, the 50s? Is that why they called you Opie? 38, 1938 to 30s.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I went to 38, 39, I was there. No, they used to call me, all the black kids would call me Opie. What's up, Opie? Because they knew Andy Griffith. Because of the reruns. Because of the reruns, where I was on WGN.
Starting point is 00:03:19 But I got called Opie a lot when I was a kid. Opie was a big one. And then Howdy Doody. Howdy Doody. did very you know a confidence building experience um raggedy and an andy look look look at go andy and i my name is andrew which is it makes it even worse yeah it was bad it was uh but i either fought kids that said it i either would punch people yeah or i would joke my way out of it. It sounds cheap, but it really was my... When you were in high school, did you sound how you sound right now?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Or were you kind of like, I'm from South Side Chicago? No, no, no. I sound exactly how I sound. You didn't talk all the way like that? I didn't have like a Sebastian when I talked like this. Well, Sebastian's from a Scorsese movie. He's not even from chicago no he he he was a he's an animated character that they turned into real action real live action like i've been i've been
Starting point is 00:04:13 around forever and like sebastian is killing it and i couldn't be happier for him you hate him and you've said that on a lot of shows no but there's so many, like he is the Italian-American comedian, what he does. He's the best, but there has been versions that probably thought they were going to be Sebastian. Uh-huh. Well, did you see one time Dice Clay went after him? Do you know this? Really? No, why?
Starting point is 00:04:42 You have to look it up. Sebastian, why would you go after Sebastian? Well, I guessastian used to open for dice years ago oh really i think don't i don't want to be super wrong but whatever the case may be dice put on his instagram one time um something to the effect of like this guy's stealing my act anyway and it was like the irony is staggering because sebastian is this italian kid from chicago right and that and of course it's inflated it's it's a caricature of what chicago people are but also dice is a jewish guy from jersey well he's so it's kind of a stretch to to be like that's my character it's like his is so obviously his character. I see what you're saying that you guys sound, you guys have similar, you know, this kind of thing, but come on.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's not. Oh my God. But he went after him. And then I think he recanted it. Cause I feel like maybe he felt bad that it, cause it was unnecessary. And I don't think Sebastian said a word about it. I don't know why he, why, why would he care? So when you were in Chicago and you did not start there.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I started here and but so i'm from chicagoland i'm from northwest indiana i'm a region right elgin no well i was born in elgin but where did you live live then i lived in barrington okay and then i lived in munster indiana and chesterton ind Indiana. Yeah. Indiana boys, man. Yeah. Cigarettes and gas were always cheap there. A lot of, you know, I would do zanies and there would be a lot of people that would come from the region and I could tell because it would be Saturday night and they'd be wearing sweatpants. I'd be like, all right, thanks for dressing up.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But those are my people. Did you start at zanies? No, I started in New York City. Okay. But when I was headlining in, I don't know if you encountered this when you would go back to Chicago. I mean, now it's a different thing with the weed and everything. But when I would do shows at Zany's, afterwards I'd be like, hey, why didn't you kick out those people that were yelling? And they'd be like, because they were your guests.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's your cousin. That's your brother and his friends. And I'm like, yeah, I guess so. All right. That's exactly what it is. I'm going to play for the first time in my career. I'm playing the Chicago Theater, February 5th. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Big deal for the old boy. And my guest list is i'm not kidding it's no short of 200 people i have no i mean like you got to do a party downstairs do i yes but all these i all these some of these family members i don't want there you just do it you just do it and you do it after but like the chic Chicago Theater, yeah. I mean, growing up, I would take the South Shore train into Chicago and walking by the Chicago Theater. My one joke that I always do, I'm like, because I would do it when I would do the Chicago Theater. I'd be like, that's the theater where the band Chicago live. It's like, it shows you how old I am.
Starting point is 00:07:42 But yeah, no, the Chicago Theater. And people are excited to be there too. Yeah, no, well, because it's kind of an event, and I do feel like what is missing in, no joke, in comedy clubs, comedy clubs kind of do give this feeling that you can schlub it up, but the theater people always dress up a little bit nicer.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Oh, yeah. It's so nice. You're like, oh, look at them coming to see me wearing good clothes. It's nice when somebody gets to wear uh something a little bit more flashy i think it makes you feel more professional a little bit comedy doesn't matter they love the experience too it's a night out yeah yeah it's like we're going to the chicago theater which is very cool they got the babysitter
Starting point is 00:08:21 do you know tim dylan by the way yeah he's calling me right now. Yeah, we should put him on speakerphone. Why is he calling me? Or is he babysitting for you? Tim, I'm on the podcast right now with Jim Gaffigan. Say hi. What the fuck? Wow. Jim Gaffigan, fucking the best.
Starting point is 00:08:35 His special is amazing. It is. Are you smoking right now, Tim? Wait, what did you say? He said, are you smoking right now? No, I'm eating a turkey meatloaf right now. A turkey meatloaf? You make it sound like there's four in a serving.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm eating just one turkey meatloaf. One of the turkey meatloaves. Did you get it from a diner? Did you get the whole meatloaf or just a portion of it? No, it's from Bristol Farms. It's a high-end grocery store in LA. That's why living in Austin didn't work. They don't have good groceries.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That's correct. They don't have good groceries. That's correct. Well, by the way, congratulations, Tim. The big feature in the Daily Beast, your interview with Joe. I was watching some of it. That's pretty huge. Is it good? I didn't even know. No, it's great.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It's great, I'm sure. It's great. Can you act more humble? Let's try that again. We'll edit this oh jeez i didn't even know it was on it was on that platform of all the people that i make a career out of antagonizing i haven't even noticed you know that's what i mean i gotta i'll have to check it out but i thank you i mean no it's a good interview too too. Well, I want to call... The interview is good. I put, you know, we push back.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I've gotten vaccinated 19 times. Right. Did you get Joe vaccinated? Did you get Joe boosted? Did you give him the boost? No, I mean, he's not getting the boost. But again, you know, he's not an overweight smoker. I mean, like, you know, I got vaccinated as soon as they allowed me to get vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I got in a car and drove to a hospital in L.A. I was like, okay, now I can go to dinner. Right. Yeah, well, you can't. You don't want to mess up that whole thing. Tim, can I make an observation? I hope to see you before you leave Los Angeles. What's that?
Starting point is 00:10:16 What'd you say? I hope to see you before you leave L.A. He wants to see you before you leave. It's not going to happen. No, well, you last night, I was talking to Spade. You had a conversation. Tim, I do want to bring up an observation, and maybe this is one of your jokes. you leave well yeah no well you are you last night i was talking to spade you had a conversation tim i i do want to bring up an observation and maybe this is one of your jokes you sound like you just
Starting point is 00:10:31 came from a yelling match with some neighbor like you always your voice sounds like you know what i told that guy he keeps letting his dog shit in my yard, and I let him have it, honey. You know what I mean? You're the dad that's just like coming down from just ranting at a neighbor. Yeah. You've got to fight with the neighborhood council. Somebody described me once. You're like a Long Island baseball dad who's had it.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, who's sick of it. Yeah. The ump has been fucking up all game, missing calls. You've lost it. You didn't embarrass your son. You embarrassed yourself. But you'll move forward. Tim, is it true that they're...
Starting point is 00:11:13 I have that perpetual sound of rage. Is it true that they're considering you to host the Academy Awards? Is that true? I mean, I haven't heard it, but i have some very great agents over there at caa that i'm sure yeah can make it happen i think it's by the way there's there everyone everyone in this conversation has the conversation with the agents where they're like you know what they're there it could be happening and you're like it's not gonna happen they're like well you know what i never know i want to build you up so that you don't call me for work for two months.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I'm just saying. Yeah, well, listen, Jim, I hope to see you. I'll be at the store in the improv this week, so maybe we'll. All right. Tim, I'll call you after. See you. All right, buddy. Thanks, brother.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Bye. One of the best. One of the best. He's like the Jim Gaffigan of comedy. He's more like the brian regan i think he's more of a regan kind of guy you're closer to the jim gaffigan than i think you think you are yeah and there's some of that a little you have a touch of it but so let's talk about so you grew up in what cabrini green in i was on the 15th floor 15thth floor? Mm-hmm. You're one of 10 kids?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Mm-hmm. No, what? So where did you- Did you grow up in Beverly? No, I grew up- Beverly? I grew up in what is affectionately called River North. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Old town and near Zaney's. I lived right over there. Clark Division. I lived on Deer Bay. Oh, that's fancy up there. It's fancy boy. Fancy up there. But the irony was I grew up in subsidized housing.
Starting point is 00:12:50 My mom was a single mom and we had Section 8 in really, like so nice buildings, you know, they have to have certain units of Section 8. And you're this very intelligent kid and your mom was like, he's going to be fine. And you're like, you know what? I'm going to go and be a filthy comic. A dirt bag.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Well, I got kicked out of Moody Bible. Shout out to Moody Bible. Really? Got kicked out. What do you mean kicked out? Is that a, I don't even know what that means. They remove you from their curriculum. You're not, you are not allowed to go to school there anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I got asked to leave politely. My mother, my, the, one of the nuns. Is Moody Bible, is that a Catholic school? Yeah. It's right. You know what? Jim, do you know anything? I just.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's right across from Second City. Do you ever go to Second City? Ever in the city? I went and saw a show there. Yeah, it's right across the street. There's a big church right on the corner right there. It's a church and a school. But I got asked to leave for being violent and disruptive.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I was a little fighter. I was a little bad boy. You were a bad boy. I was a little bad boy. See, I don't see you as a violent type. You get to know me. It gets bad. So you have. See, I don't see you as a violent type, but like- You get to know me, it gets bad. So you have a temper.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I can't. I think I've calmed it down now in my, as I've grown out of a lot of the shit I was angry about, I think it just slowly goes away. It's like how, you know how Burr kind of slowly pushed it away. It was really hot at one point. I don't know. I feel like, you know, I love Bill Burr. He could still snap. By the way, I knew Bill Burr when he was Billy Burr. I know. Did you i feel like you know i love he could still snap by the way i knew bill burr when he was billy burr i know you know yeah you know i didn't but eddie from the
Starting point is 00:14:09 improv eddie the bartender at the improv he used to always say that he's like man you got the same energy as billy burr and i thought he was being condescending but he's like no no we used we called him billy burr this whole bill burr thing was new that's what he said i never had heard that before i remember when jeff was Jeff Lifsholtz. Lifshitz. Yeah, Lifsholtz. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Why didn't he keep that? A stage name. Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Lifsholtz. When he did Letterman, I think he was Jeff Lifsholtz. You know, for us, the only reason to do a stage name is if your name is tough to pronounce, and I get Lifsholtz as kind of, you know, Ross is quicker. But Gaffigan's a good name.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You're lucky you got a good name. No, you got a great name. Did you quit smoking? About 30 years ago. And you're doing those things still? I'm still doing them. Do they work? Apparently not.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. All right, so what do you miss the most about Chicago? This is my segue of talking about pizza. I like it. I'm going to pour you a little bit. Do you want to have a little sauce? Yeah, what is... So these are all these different kinds.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Just different kinds of jazz. What's the most expensive one? Well, this is Blanton's. This is tough to get your fingers on. Oh, yeah. People don't like that I have this. So there's... And by the way, if you get all the bottles and you line them up, it looks like a horse
Starting point is 00:15:22 race, right? And it also, right there, each of these letters spells Blantons. That's an L bottle. Wow. People collect these. And were they bad people, the Blantons? Or were they good people? You would imagine they were bad, but it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You know what I mean? Are you asking if they own people of any kind? Well, you know. I don't know. I don't know what they did. I don't think Tennessee was a big. Kentucky. Oh, Kentucky. Yeah. Well, I think it's too hilly. I don't think Tennessee was a big... Kentucky. Oh, Kentucky, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Well, I think it's too hilly. You think it's too hilly to own people? Cheers. Cheers. Cheers to you. Cheers to me. Look at us. Look at us.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I think maybe Kentucky. Yeah, Kentucky's in the cell. It's right near Indiana. Yeah, I was going to say, you got to tell me. Yeah. There was a part of Indiana that was like very Midwest, everything we grew up with, everything I ever knew. And then there was parts of Indiana I would visit, family or friends.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It was a little hickey, a little hickey. Oh, yeah. But so much wasn't. What's the dividing line? Well, the thing about Indiana is, obviously, I haven't lived there for 30 years, but when I was growing up, this is what I knew, and this is what I've experienced, is that northwest Indiana, which is Rust Belt, which is kind of like, it's Chicagoland, same television stations, also same time zone. Right. So, like, we're part of central, but the rest of Also, same time zone. Right. So, like, we're part of Central, but the rest of Indiana is Eastern. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And so, Northwest Indiana is rejected by Indiana and rejected by Chicago. Yeah, we don't. Historically. It is true. So, like, when I'm in Chicago and I say I'm from Northwest Indiana, they're like, where's that? I'm like, it's 10 minutes away. And they're like, really? It's the tip of the lake. They're like where's that I'm like it's 10 minutes away they're like really it's the tip of the lake they're like is isn't that the road to Michigan I'm like yeah well it is essentially because people would go on vacation in Michigan not in
Starting point is 00:17:14 Indiana no but uh so it was a there's a strange identity crisis in Indiana so even when I perform in Indy they're all excited that I'm from Indiana. And then they find out I'm from Northwest Indiana and they're like, they're kind of bummed about it. Yeah. What's your best market in the Midwest? What do you think you do the best in? I don't know. It's, you know, is there one you like the most? I like them all. I mean, I like performing in, um, all different size cities. So I like, you know, Cedar Rapids. I like Rochester, Minnesota. I like some of these, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:54 not huge cities that are kind of, there's a fun, kind of like the smaller towns are almost kind of interesting. Did you feel a difference? Okay, so listen, because I'm at a point in my career when I do a smaller city, it's just tougher to get people out when i do big cities i can still i can i can really do well yeah but so when i go to these cities at this this stage it almost feels like going backwards if i go to a smaller town because they're harder
Starting point is 00:18:18 to get them out it is hard you know did you have that well you know i would think that the podcast thing has replaced morning radio like they're used to i mean there's still the bob and tom show i'm sure you've been on bob i've done that bob and tom yeah but bob and tom used to be if you were on bob and tom you could go anywhere in these yeah what are considered b and c markets and so so I think podcasts have kind of weakened terrestrial radio, but that's how you could do it. Yeah, you should do that. Yeah, I did Bob and Tom, but one of them was mean to me.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Not Bob or Tom, but one of the other guys was in a bad place. And it was so mean that the producer wrote me an email. I was like, I apologize about it. But he stepped on like every joke and it felt so weird and I was like that guy must have had a bad day. It is weird the vibe was so off I remember doing morning radio
Starting point is 00:19:14 and I don't know if you ever encountered this where you would get there and they would just make you wait to make you wait and you're like you're out here for like 45 minutes and you're like well it's 6 a.m you're already tired there what are they talking about that i have to wait right and yeah so it's the morning radio stuff was exhausting i'm glad i don't do
Starting point is 00:19:38 it anymore to be there's a lot of there's a lot of shit eating. But that's where your podcast, it's got to be exciting. It supplements it for sure. And do you know which cities are listening or is it you just find out base numbers? No, we get, I mean, we have the, we find out the analytics of like where people are the most. That does help sometimes with like cities I pick, you know, but also there's cities that's blew my mind. There's cities that I've gone to and I'm like, I had no idea that this many people like, I put up tickets for Seattle and Portland
Starting point is 00:20:10 and I guess I hadn't played in either of those cities in a couple of years before COVID. I hadn't been there in a year or two. And then sold, you know, sold out within second. And I just was like, why Seattle and Portland? I have no. Those are great comments. They are, but I just was surprised.
Starting point is 00:20:24 And then there's certain cities where you're like, how come I can't sell a ticket here? Yeah. It's a grind. What about internationally? Because some podcasts are just... That's where I'm really jealous is Australia. Because when you talk about these smaller towns,
Starting point is 00:20:40 it's like they don't know who you are. It's like Australia, the UK. it's like i feel like i'm making inroads in canada but like so is this podcast big in australia like i know that segura yeah we have enough we have enough fans in australia where i've been asked a lot to go down there and i've never i want to go yeah but i just it's such a hard that's a big commitment to go down there when i'm like i can do the states and do the states and the states and then at some point i poke up in canada i have yet to be brave enough to go down there or to europe i haven't done europe at all yeah you've done europe yes but it's it's you know like it's
Starting point is 00:21:21 essentially breaking even when i go anywhere outside of North America. You mean financially it's just not really. Yeah. Australia, it's so expensive to get there. Yeah, it's like 50 grand just a one-way ticket. But that's also because you take your own private jet and you want no one else on it. Right. I rent out a United Airlines and they're like, we don't even fly to Australia.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And then I just put down $1 bills and they're like that's not enough and then i have to go through 50 000 until you finally get there and they're like that's still not enough and so then i have to go through another and then finally they're like it's not the point they're like fine we have this guy that's going there anyway ah jim jeffries he's heading down that way yes so he'll just scoop you up yes do you do this is a rumor and you you may know if it's true or not i had heard that seinfeld when he does gigs flies back same night on a jet won't stay in the city is this fake have you heard this before it's so funny i remember hearing that about um uh who is the guy Jimmy Buffett and Jimmy Buffett flew himself
Starting point is 00:22:29 oh cause he's a pilot of course he's a pilot those people are weirdos you don't need to do that why would you want to aren't you exhausted it's like you know what then I'm gonna drive the tour bus
Starting point is 00:22:43 you don't have to. No, I like to. But no, I don't think that's true. See, somebody had told that to me that he enjoyed leaving the night of on a jet. Well, I think if he's in the Northeast, he probably does. Yeah, but I'm saying the rumor was it didn't matter where he was. He'd rather be on a jet going back home than staying in the city. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's totally what I heard about Jimmy Buffett. Well, it sounds like both of these guys, first of all, both are very capable of doing it. Yeah. But the Jimmy one's better because he flew himself. Yes. I used to sail myself. I would do a gig. If it was near water, I would sail back.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Anywhere around Lake Michigan. I would sail right across. Like you would do, you're like, oh, I got a show in Mackinac. Mackinac Island, baby. It's like a long sailing. It's particularly if the wind's not there. There's almost no wind sometimes. And you're on a laser.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You're on a laser ship. Yeah. I don't even know what they're. It's a laser. Yeah, it's called a laser. It's a tiny little laser. So like you don't feel like a government housing. You feel like you know some of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I don't. You don't know? I'm not a smart man, but I'm really good at being a chameleon and chameleon and i was i'm always see monkey see monkey do if you do something i can pay enough attention to it i can do it so with language articulation i just learned i'm not i'm not saying we grew up uh in the slump we grew up in like nice apartment high-rises my mother worked for one of the companies that property managed them and then we got to live for cheap in these fancy houses so it's wild yeah did you ever vacation to wisconsin were you one of us i um it's so
Starting point is 00:24:18 interesting i didn't my my wife is from wisconsin but i was never we never went to wisconsin really and i love wisconsin too that's chicago's play plant playpen i mean that's like that's where is from Wisconsin, but I was never, we never went to Wisconsin. Really? And I love Wisconsin too. That's Chicago's playpen. I mean, that's like, that's where we go. We go trash their lakes and come back. Yeah. You didn't do, where do you guys go to trash lakes? Well, we would go to, you know, there's a lake called Lake Michigan.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, but that's, it's so daunting. We like little small ones that we can ruin. Like little small ones that. Yeah, like Lake Delavan. Yeah. Lake Geneva. Lake Geneva, yeah. That's a fun one to trash. Where is that? Wisconsin. small ones that we can like little small ones yeah like lake delavan yeah like geneva lake geneva yeah that's a fun one to trash where is that wisconsin that's right across the border it's up up north across the illinois wisconsin border that's what we where's your wife from
Starting point is 00:24:53 uh milwaukee what a city right i love milwaukee i have always said how much i love milwaukee which is interesting because i think do you remember when uh like jonathan brandmeyer do you remember him no who's that oh my god you're too young to know who jonathan brand is he a comic no he was a radio dj there was like i remember you don't even know who steve doll is do you the name is familiar for some reason doll did the disco demolition but he was the uh equivalent of howard stern when i was a kid oh he was huge he was gigantic steve and gary and they were very funny and very kind of rude in the morning it was back you know it's so funny because then eventually i did his podcast he's got one now this was probably 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And I was like, I can't believe I'm doing, and I texted my brothers. I'm like, I'm doing Steve Dahl's podcast. But isn't that nice when you're a kid, that thing that means a lot to you when you're a kid? Even if people don't get it now, you're like, you wouldn't. When I was a kid, it was so huge. Oh, you know the radio DJ that I knew that was Rick Dees. You know Rick Dees? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Huge. I mean, he was like the king. And he's a Midwest guy. I'm almost positive. Is he? Yeah. Rick Dees. He was like that voice, right?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah, Rick Dees. He had like a very like, yeah, he's great. I know him. I golf with him sometimes. Well, now you're bragging. Well, now I am boasting. I am. You're boasting.
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Starting point is 00:30:28 Yes. How was it? Did you have fun over there? It was so fun. Did he give you some alpha brain? No, he didn't. He didn't give you all that on it shit? No.
Starting point is 00:30:36 When I used to tour with him, he would be like, you got to have some of this. And I didn't want to take it. I don't even know. You have to be a workout fanatic for that stuff to work. You know, I go through different phases. But, like, I do admire he gets up, he works out like crazy. Yeah, I'm not going to do it. And, you know, he's holding it all together.
Starting point is 00:31:01 What an empire he's built. It's unbelievable. Insane. He's like, over here is the horse track i'm gonna build it's unbelievable it is like he's but there's an energy there that i don't think most humans have no he's an enigma i when i would go on the road with him and we would go do you know these little two little mini tour over city to city and then go back to la yeah he was unbelievable he would always you know and i work mini tour over city to city and then go back to LA. Yeah, he was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:31:27 He would always, you know, and I work out, but he was like, hey, we're going to go, you know, eat a steak, work out, go do shows, and then go eat a steak again at one in the morning. And then wake up and work out is the moment we would get up again. Wow. He was good. I mean, his discipline was pretty high.
Starting point is 00:31:42 It was rare, but also he would enjoy, you know, we always loved, because he knows I'm a booze bag. So we'd always have some whiskey at the shows. And he lives kind of how I live, but it's... But he looks great. Yeah, and look at me. And I look like shit, Jim. You can just say it if you're going to say it.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I'm, you know, compared to me, you look fine. That's good. My album will be called I Look Fine. You Look Fine. I Look Fine. But so I don't know. All right, so you did your special was- At the Vic Theater.
Starting point is 00:32:14 At the Vic. That's where I did my Beyond the Pale. Oh, seriously? Yeah. Where did you do Comedy Monster? Where is this one at? Minneapolis. What a city.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Yeah. Another great Midwest city. Right? Yeah. Have you done only Midwest special at? Minneapolis. What a city. Yeah. Another great Midwest city. Right? Yeah. Have you done only Midwest specials? No. I've done a couple in Boston, but I did one in Columbus. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:32:34 One in Austin. Can I ask you something that might get in your craw? Yeah. How come you've been nominated six times and you never won? Because I'm not good. But isn't that annoying? Dude, at some point, don't you want to go, don't fucking nominate me if you're not going to fucking give me this thing?
Starting point is 00:32:51 No. Because I'm such a grump. In this business? Because I've always been like, you're not going to give it to him on one of these times? First of all, it's like- I was annoyed for you. You don't have to be, but it pissed me off a few times. It's not who you're up against.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It's more, get the fuck out. It's Leonardo DiCaprio when you're like, give him the fucking thing, will you? With the waiting. It's weird. And by the way, it's like, I understand why people could be listening to this and they'd be like, yeah, he's lying. He's trying to be like humble or whatever. But it's like the nomination. First of all, it's a music award show.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah. And then they kind of throw some comedians. So if you're in the mix, that's all that matters. And also in the entertainment industry, the nomination really is- The award. That's the credit you want yeah no it's true like i do a lot of acting i wish i had an acting nomination for like an you know for anything just so that when i'm on a set and people are like you're a comedian and or they looked at my
Starting point is 00:34:01 wikipedia page they'd be like oh he also won won an Emmy for being the lead or he was nominated for an Emmy. It's this perception thing. The awards are not just kind of like an ego thing. It's a business thing that can help you. So the Grammy nominations are good because it also reminds you that there's a certain relevance so like if the grammy nomination is makes it more likely that the new york times will review me right i'm saying yeah no it all leads it i understand it i just i think when you put i can see why you'd think it would be annoying but it's it's not it's like what am I going to beat Chappelle? Yeah. And then like Al Yankovic does one comedy album in 30 years.
Starting point is 00:34:50 It's like, am I going to beat Weird Al? You know what I mean? I don't have an expectation of. This is how I feel when I perform in Vegas when I'm like, God, my tickets aren't selling that well. I'm like, well, can I beat the Beatles on fucking roller skates this week? It's a nightmare. I don't know how. I'm like yeah why am i performing it's so hard they're like no we were gonna come see your show but we had dinner where they light the knives on fire and they cut the stakes in the sky and yeah but so your show vegas is also weird i love performing in vegas but me
Starting point is 00:35:20 too i'm gonna be there soon but it's so hard for me to sell. It's hard, and it's also one of those things where, unlike other shows, you don't realize that a lot of people, it is a day of purchase. So you'll be looking at your numbers, and you'll be like, oh my God. And they're like, fine. And then you do the show, and people come. But it looks bad, but a lot of people don't decide what they're going to do in vegas till they get to vegas no and that's true because we are i've been that guy and you get to vegas then you go what do you want to what are we gonna do are we gonna do and then you figure it
Starting point is 00:35:55 out as the night goes i get it it's just it's i never i'm at a weird point in my career where i've just kind of started to play small theaters, sans the Chicago theater, which is big. But I want to know what it's like for you when you started to get there because I never looked at numbers before. I just wanted to go to each city and perform and work my ass off. And Burr actually gave advice to me one time. He saw me, and he's always been kind of a great coach or, I don't know, like a good –
Starting point is 00:36:21 You redheads look out for each other. We don't have a choice. That's why we don't look like a good he's been redheads look out for each other we do we have we don't have a choice uh that's why we don't look after you though but we but he just always was like oh man you're killing to the void i bet and i was like what do you mean he's like i bet you're crushing in these cities you're working really hard and there's not that many people coming out and i said yeah it's a little tough but you know and then i never checked and then now once you get a little bit of you know acumen and then you get a little bit of growth and then you're like, I got to want, I want to know what it is. Is there a moment when you just stop looking or do you always look? Well, it's.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Because the agent, they send you that fucking email. Well, by the way, some, some people don't look. Some people don't look. But like for me, I look. I'm a nerd for that kind of stuff but i you know you have to understand it's like i when i started doing theaters in the early 1800s no when i started doing theaters the expectation was okay well i'll be able to do this for three or four years. So let's just go out and do it. And there were, you know, because most people had their run in the theaters and then it was over.
Starting point is 00:37:34 So now it's like pretty much everyone who can get to theaters will stay in theaters. But so like, it's weird. So like I was much more panicked about making sure that i was selling tickets you know about getting people there and so then um the whole thing of you know the tickets thing it's it's also fun just because it's weird you have complete control over it you do not yeah it's you do you know i mean it's all you it's like you're doing in chicago you you know you have a podcast you're gonna bring up that you're at the chicago theater at every podcast you do yeah because that's your hometown and you're not gonna fuck that up you're gonna sell that out it's not about money it's about pride right it's all about it's the only thing it's about yeah no it's like it's about i have to have all the humans
Starting point is 00:38:24 inside the building for the thing but by the way i would also i do think you have to plan because the the downstairs of the chicago theater i need to throw a party there you got to all right well how about this i'll do it if you come you got to come all the way to chicago that's totally realistic do you what do you love living in new york would you ever move back to the midwest or no chance i because i have a crush on new york but i'm not in love with it i have a huge sexy crush to me it's like that that woman that i'm like i lust over new york but i just know i couldn't marry new york that's tough for me uh you know i've been there for 30 years and um by the way it's
Starting point is 00:39:03 even during the pandemic we rented a house in the, and I had a little garden and stuff like that. So I'm like, you got to be used to having no space and paying way too much for nothing. But I do like the energy of New York. Yeah, I do. It helps propel me, and I like the fact that I can, you know, eat dinner with my family, then go do a spot, then come back
Starting point is 00:39:29 and try and beg my teenagers to go to bed. So I like that. You know what I mean? Is it wild raising kids in that city? Is it as hard as people joke about?
Starting point is 00:39:41 It is. Because people are like, you got to move to the Burbs to raise kids. But they've grown up in the city their whole life. Yeah, they've grown grown it's not like a danger thing like it used to be um or if it was a danger thing it's just it's just expensive yeah it's all the money it's insanely expensive but it's i mean i also grew up you, you know, the town I lived in did not have the diversity that I, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:10 I want my kids to be exposed to diversity. I don't want them to be freaked out by two men holding hands, you know, particularly if it's one of them's me and the other one's you. Well, but you and I should hold hands. No, but. Daddy's making a change. I know what you mean. Well, because also also like you know my i'm not gonna met there's a family friend of ours that the midwest can sometimes trap you too in certain ways and obviously it's changed so much 100 but
Starting point is 00:40:36 but the jokes are still that where they're like it that is a little shocking when you don't live in a city where in la or new york or chicago you're kind of inundated with everyone you don't have a choice you know you have to see everybody yeah and a family friend there's a grocery store called jewel you know oh yeah i know jules lasco yeah i used to go by the way the jewel tea fair you don't know about that i don't know what that is no that was that they used to have a fair this was when i like i lived in the in barrington until I was eight years old and I lived in Jewel Park and where they had a jewel factory. I don't know. And they had the Jewelty Fair and we would sneak in and they would build a fair for employees.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Anyway, go on. I was waiting. I was letting you finish the Jewelty Fair. I was waiting. I was letting you finish the joolty fair. The jewel, there was a jewel that a family friend had said, you know, that's the lesbian jewel. What do you mean the lesbian jewel?
Starting point is 00:41:33 And I was like, what does that mean, the lesbian jewel? And she was like, there was a couple of lesbians there when I was there last week. Oh, wow. And I was like, is this the first time you've ever seen two women there together? And she was like- Like, does it matter? She was like, but you could tell that they were lesbians.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I could see it. And I was like, right on. Does that make it the lesbian jewel? Because there was one. She's like, well, I mean, that's the frame. So sometimes you remember you're like. And these are probably good people. Good people.
Starting point is 00:41:55 But that's a lesbian jewel. And you know what's so funny? I say it now when I go buy it. Just because you don't have a choice now. It's been transferred. I'm like, that's a lesbian jewel and uh when you do your comments on Yelp you say the lesbian jewel has the best bakery in town I want my sister's a lesbian and she lives in Chicago I wonder if she goes to that no it's just that had that does happen I get wanting to, like, look, you can't escape diversity when you live in a city,
Starting point is 00:42:29 which is, it is a good point that you made. And it's not just racial and kind of gender. It's economic diversity. Every kind of person you've ever imagined is going to live, and you're going to almost be forced to interact with them which is what that's really what it is yeah your kids don't have a choice do which one do you love the least of my kids oh gosh no the weird thing is it's like i i there's not one that i would give up i know that sounds like a weird thing to say but i remember when my wife was pregnant with the fifth i was like i was at that point i was
Starting point is 00:43:06 you know the i was like on board but like there was part of me it's like what are we doing here we could just leave it at the hospital you know and um and he looks exactly like me is he the only one that looks exactly the closest to you no but he's we call him my mini me and so like there is and by the way it's like it's gonna happen for you you're gonna have a kid and if it if he or she looks like you there's there's i mean that's in biology they do that so that you're like all right i won't eat it right but maybe if you get hungry enough maybe if i get hungry but if you got hungry enough you would eat the one I assume that looks the least like you.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, there's a couple black ones. Right. Those you eat first. That was an old joke that I had. There's a couple of black ones? I love them all. No, it's like I used to have this joke where I was like, this is when my daughter, who's now 17, when she was first born, I was i was like my daughter people say she looks like me and i think she looks like my wife except for uh she looks exactly like my wife except for she's
Starting point is 00:44:13 black other than that they're identical right are you kids redheadies you got some red my mini me's a little redhead he's a strawberry blonde right strawberry blonde you guys hold on to that but he gets uh yeah he's pretty he's pretty like my wife was a i guess when she was a kid she was a little bit of a strawberry blonde i didn't know her when she was a kid of course not i hope i wouldn't have talked to her she's a girl yeah gross right nasty don't take this the wrong way yes that's the name the name of the show. In here, we pour whiskey. Hey, man, I've talked endlessly on this show about creating your own website, designing your own platform on the internet, and I use Squarespace.
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Starting point is 00:48:01 no i don't think so. I wrestled too. I was a wrestler. Really? You don't have the psycho? All my friends that were wrestlers were nutbags. I mean, you're about to go do
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Starting point is 00:49:03 you have the the anger and the temper, the fire? Did you have any of that? Or have you always been a calm guy? Oh, no. I, you know, I definitely, I mean, I'm kind of probably like you. I have definitely a temper. But, you know, it's like I'm, you know, I, like most men, I don't want to alienate everyone. Yeah. But I would, and you know, like, by the way, I don't want to alienate everyone.
Starting point is 00:49:27 By the way, I'm a dad. I'm kind of a son of a bitch kind of a dad like my dad was. But I would say that, yeah, I don't know. But I did football and wrestling. I did wrestling because I didn't make the basketball team. But I think I did sports out of habit and by the way my kid one of i have three boys only my one of my sons like sports the other two are like not interested at all do you like sports anymore or no i like watching it that's what i mean like you're you still have a team you root for and all that shit or no um i'm
Starting point is 00:50:04 more root for the nfl than anything you know like for different teams sure do you know what I mean. Like, you still have a team you root for and all that shit or no? More root for the NFL than anything, you know, like for different teams. Sure. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But, you know, but yeah, like I, you know, my family did a Super Bowl shuffle. Like, you were probably born in 85, right? I was born in 83. Really?
Starting point is 00:50:22 Oh, my God. The Bears. And so. I was born into a really oh my god the bears and so um was born into a super bowl basically you were born into a the the most famous bears the greatest bears team that i'll ever see as i live on earth that's for that's for sure but you don't even know about walter payton you can't appreciate him i when i was a kid i mean i would see stuff after it was all over but i mean you know it's like saying i won't like the Beatles because I didn't know them. But you could appreciate it in the after effect, but I didn't live in the era.
Starting point is 00:50:50 But I lived in the era of the greatest basketball player that ever picked up a ball. That was my entire childhood. Yeah. That's why football to me, I loved it. Basketball was the only thing that mattered. It's so interesting. Because I grew up with that guy. By the way, it's like I have all these nephews that are growing up in chicagoland huge hockey fans like they i have nephews in indiana like we didn't play hockey
Starting point is 00:51:12 yeah and now they're like yeah i gotta take my son to hockey and i'm like hockey there weren't even rinks like i mean chicago had the blackhawks but it it wasn't everyone. That was just some people were into hockey, not like New England or Minnesota or Wisconsin were into hockey. Chicago was kind of like, yeah, we've got a hockey team. Yeah, and Michigan people are hockey fanatic. You go up there, that's life. Hockey is life. No, I didn't get involved in any of that stuff because basketball was all consuming because that's all. Chicago was just bad.
Starting point is 00:51:48 My dad doesn't really love the NBA. He doesn't? No. Loves baseball. We grew up Cubs fans. Cubs fans. Yeah, but the Bulls, the only thing we could do if we were, we couldn't watch TV if we ate dinner, but if the Bulls were on, we could. That was like the exception of the rule because he loved watching Jordan.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Wait a minute, didn't you say you grew up with a single mother? I did. This is my stepdad. I call him my dad. Okay, okay. My mother remarried. And he was kind of a hard ass, but you could watch TV? No TV during dinner, but if the Bulls were on, we could watch Jordan because it was Jordan.
Starting point is 00:52:24 It was like a spectacle to be able to watch him. I remember how we would all, we sat one time, I remember looking at my mom eating, holding a plate, which was very unusual that we would always have to sit at the dinner table. But like holding a plate on the couch, I was like, this is insane. This is only because this magician is on TV
Starting point is 00:52:40 playing basketball. That, to me, was like the, that's why I think I fell in love with almost only basketball as a kid and then grew into the other bullshit. And will you go to Lakers games or Clipper games? Yeah, I'll go. It's not like you live in New York, you adopt
Starting point is 00:52:55 these teams. Wait a minute, are you a UFC comedian? No. Are you into the UFC stuff? No, you know, Joe took me to those things and I tried. Yeah. I liked boxing when I was a kid. Did you get aroused when these two men were hitting each other? Well, I couldn't come because sometimes they knock themselves out so fast I could never finish in time.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's cool to appreciate the mixed martial arts as impressive. You were just confused why a man was hitting another man and not a woman. A woman. I said, where is the lady? And they hold the cards. I said, get her in there and smack that right out of her hand. Yeah, right. She's walking with too much confidence in your view.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah, it'll go, boobs are out. I never really loved UFC. Is this a thing for you? No, it's all new to me. It's cool. I get it. I just haven't invested no time in it whatsoever i'm in my new hour i'm trying to talk about that world just because it's fascinating
Starting point is 00:53:52 sure it is so it's it's you know all my nephews love it you know what i mean so i'm like all right it's like uh it's kind of like how it's like It's like the internet. It's just like the web. It's the interweb. You know it, and you know it, don't you? It's like, you know, cable TV's huge now. I'm like the oldest guy in the world. Now they have televisions. And you can take it with you, you know, on your mobile.
Starting point is 00:54:17 You can take it. When they say mobile, and you're mobile. You put it on your fucking mobile. You can walk around. I mean, why not? Would you ever do an NFT? How far away is that from you? Or how about this?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Are you into crypto? I own some crypto. Oh. Don't do this. I'm too old thing. You're fucking, you're hot as a pistol. What do you have? Tell me you've got Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yeah, I have some Bitcoin. You got the bit. All right. How much do you have? I have Ethereum. I actually only did Ethereum. Only did Ethereum. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:54:44 I don't know why. I just shied away from Bitcoin when I first was introduced to it. But you've been in a while. I haven't been in that long. Because my friend who opens for me, Ted Alexander, he got really into the crypto during the lockdown portion. So he's like – Did he sucker you into doing it? He did.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always one of your good friends. He's like, you know, the mayor of New York got his first two paychecks in crypto. Is that real? That's true. Holy shit. Would you ever take a gig pay in crypto? If you played some huge theater and they're like, Jim, we'll give you the cash for crypto.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Well, I want to hear your thing about NFTs. What about NFTs? I'm starting to really sniff around them because I think they're super interesting because I've gotten into this debate with people that the typical answer is always like, it's fucking bullshit. It's easy to go like, good. But I'm starting to understand the value in when you NFT something, every time it gets bought, you get paid back for it. Also, you can paid back for it. Also, you can make the exclusivity is what matters. So it's much like saying for a comic, it's like crafting your perfect joke. Ted Alexandra was going to sell a special on crypto via crypto.
Starting point is 00:55:58 He didn't do it? That's a great idea. It was a couple of years ago and he didn't do it. He got scared. No, I think it was a complication with someone building the the capability and I think that's a great idea I'm not maybe I wasn't supposed to say that but um it's well it's like there's stuff out there you know the story of the guy that bought the pizza with the crypto I heard heard that. He bought a pizza with like one or two Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And I think they did it later and what he had paid for the Bitcoin versus what it's worth now. And it was like a couple hundred thousand dollar pizza or something like that. It was really sad. So who is in the NFT world? See, I have a friend who's an artist,
Starting point is 00:56:42 who's a great artist, and he's the one that told me I should do it. And he's i can help you teach you how to like mint it and all that stuff and he's been making a bunch of money in it and i just so is uh so is he so what would you do you do a stand-up bit i don't know maybe yeah stand up it or like um you know bobby and i show bad friends has a lot of like fan art yeah like that kind of stuff and people make it and there's a lot of digital fan art that they make and i was like what if we nft'd one of those arts and then we split it with the artist where the artist gets some of that trickle down and we get some of the trickle then it's like fair for everybody and then they take you to court yeah well we get when do we get them involved in the
Starting point is 00:57:21 beginning and then they take you to court. Yeah, but you're my attorney. And then they, look, let me explain to you. The legal ramifications are very simple. If you do not, unless you get a commitment, when the art was made. There's just like, that's what the whole thing is like. Who shot it? Where was the shot? You know?
Starting point is 00:57:43 Well, that's like. Pete Davidson drew a stick figure and supposedly that is worth $20,000. Yeah. God bless. By the way, if I had a podcast like you... This is our podcast now. A weekly...
Starting point is 00:58:00 It's called The Recessives, right? Mm-hmm. But you could talk about your crypto, I mean, your NFT every week. And get people to really get into it. I think it has to catch a little fire. It has to be some sort of viral fire. So like those ape NFTs are taking off, right?
Starting point is 00:58:18 Right, because there has to be some sort of virality to it to like really get people interested. Otherwise, I think you're just making nfts that i think there's people that make nfts they make no money you have to have some kind of viral world built around you or it already and then it goes yeah but i don't know enough about it i'm very interested because i do know that i don't want to be the guy in the end that goes yeah it was bullshit and then everybody else was like shit why did you not why could why wouldn't you just play you know because also it's a lot of money i'm scared i don't want to i don't want to put i don't want to invest a ton in crypto either
Starting point is 00:58:54 because i don't want to lose a lot like what's the what's the most you've ever invested in something like that um do you put a lot of money in i put everything in it's all gone my wife no i um i don't know i mean some of it is i'm only putting money in there that i could lose let me be very clear about that yeah but uh it is also one of those where i talked to my friend and he's like look it's going to be something is it going to be it's going up more than the stock market sure right right but i don't know i mean it's like weird people people buy art an investment. Like that seems like a lot of work. Yeah. I don't, I don't, well, I'm too dumb to understand the depth of why something is worth more on
Starting point is 00:59:50 a physical scale of the artist and you have to understand their history and, and then, and then also it's about like the lineage of who's owned the art. That's important. Oh, really? Which doesn't exist in the NFT world. I'm saying in the world of art, it, whom owned it prior is part of. Wow. The reputable sale.
Starting point is 01:00:06 What about real estate? Do you own real estate? I own this building. You do? I do not. I rent this building. How, like,
Starting point is 01:00:14 are you, you're a pretty good lawyer, right? Great liar. Yeah. Are you known as a liar? Oh yeah. You're known as a big liar.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Oh yeah. Or fib, we call it fibber. Fibber? Well, fibba, don't do a hard word. Fibba. Just say fibber. Fibba. He's a fibba. You know that fibber. Fibber? Well, fibba. Don't do a hard word. Fibba.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Just say fibber. Fibba. He's a fibba. You know that fibba. No, I love facetiousness. Yes. It's part of my chemical makeup. As a kid, I loved fucking with people.
Starting point is 01:00:36 What is your favorite thing to eat? Butthole. Men's butthole. What's my favorite? Honestly, what's my indulge don't hold yourself back like you know don't censor yourself here my fate my um no or you're italian my italiano my dirty little i'm an irish and you know but my dirty little like um food secret would be like, I mean, I could eat, I can eat pizzas. Yeah. Pizzas.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Plural. Multiple. Yeah, it's almost embarrassing. Like Tim was like, I'm eating a meatloaf, and we thought it might be a whole meatloaf. Yeah, it's a loaf. It's like a loaf of bread is what I thought of. And I say that with true affection and like-mindedness. Like I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:22 I can devour a meatloaf. But like you could eat a whole piece. By the way, are a deep dish or a thin crust? We call tavern or pub pizzas is what we say.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Really? Square cuts. That's the thin, super thin crust. Oh yeah. That they serve in traditional bars or pubs,
Starting point is 01:01:37 taverns in Chicago. That's most Chicagoland people's favorite. Deep dish is a thing we have. For tourists. We have it once in a while yeah no no my brothers make fun of me because i love deep dish no i i like it yeah but we don't eat it the
Starting point is 01:01:50 way people joke about people are like oh deep dish and you're like yeah we have it once in a while it is weird this the square cut pizza favorite i grew up like that you get so many good pieces on the all so everybody gets a nice little chunk of square. But there's nothing better than deep dish. It's by far my favorite. By the way, I don't even, I'm not saying I like it more than other pizza, other types of pizza.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I like it more than life. What's your favorite food? We were in, so we did a family reunion in Chicago for Christmas. And on December 25th, we had deep dish pizza for dinner. And my wife was not happy. Why? That's so much better than traditional Christmas hams. Oh my God, it was so good.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Do you like Thanksgiving food or are you not a Thanksgiving guy? It's all right. No, it's the worst. It's like, come on. We don't do it at my house. You don't? No. my house you don't what do you do with prime rib oh prime rib my mom cooks a prime rib oh i'm coming over yeah come on seriously what's your mom's name maureen maureen so she's irish yes look at this where this is this where
Starting point is 01:02:57 this has come from so your dad was italian yeah big sicilian guy yeah jim that's how the last name is usually like the dumbest guy i know but i'm letting you have it wait a minute um i look like i'm every kid from chicago is either is it a half a half italian half irish or or some polish it's either half there's a lot of poles more than in warsaw yeah yeah we run the gambit you You think, like, I've always heard that, oh, there's more Polish in Chicago then. But, like, there's not that many Polish people. Right now, my whole Twitter feed's like, what the hell? No, but, like, I love pierogies. Jim, why does it always have to be about food?
Starting point is 01:03:39 Because I'm afraid to share my gambling. What is your food? What's the one that you can't live with? Death row. Jim, you're on death row. Oh, my God. What are you eating? What's the one that you can't live with? Death Row. Jim, you're on Death Row. Oh, my God. What are you eating? There's so many things.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I mean, you know, look, there is, by the way, I have a lot of fond memories of going into Chicago and going to Greek Town. Yeah, Greek Town. Amazing. You like yourself some Greek food, huh? Amazing. But the best burger is in northwest indiana uh shoops you
Starting point is 01:04:09 probably never heard of it shoops have you heard of shoops s-c-h-o-u-p yeah yeah i know shoops and uh did you like it or no no no well you didn't have it um what about um the uh but yeah deep dish is pretty amazing you know what we had at christmas we had What about the But yeah Deep dish is pretty amazing You know what we had at Christmas We had poquits Huh? I'm going to let you figure it out
Starting point is 01:04:33 Pequots Poquits is great We went to poquits Poquits You had pequots Did you like? I liked it. Very good.
Starting point is 01:04:47 But, you know, Luz. Luz is the best. Luz is king. It is so good. Even though people will fight you, Chicagoland people will fight you about whose is better and then Luz is a sellout and they're on every corner now. What's wrong with that? Still love Luz.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah, McDonald's is too. Oh, how dare they succeed. Right. It's the same with Portillo. Have you ever had Portillo that? Still love Lou. Yeah, McDonald's is too. Oh, how dare they succeed. Right. It's the same with Portillo. Have you ever had Portillo? Oh, love them. I can follow. So that is my ultimate meal, is the Italian beef, Italian sandwich combo.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Combo, piece of Italian sausage, and then Italian beef on top. Oh, my God. Sweet and hot, peppers on top. Juicy, run it up with cheese. Put it down. By the way, have you ever had the double chopped in Austin at, what's it called? I don't know. It's like, but it's, I think it's so fast. I can't remember what it's called.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Outback Steakhouse? But no, it's not Outback. Is it a diarrhea factory? No. But I do think it's interesting. the Italian beef that is so good. So good. Which is similar to the French dip, which is also similar to the Philly cheesesteak. Kind of.
Starting point is 01:05:57 But it's wetter, right? Ours is marinated more, is the best way that we like to say it. Have you ever gotten it delivered where you cook it at home? We do this two or three times a year at my house here in Los Angeles. Yeah. My mother ships us some every year. It's the best.
Starting point is 01:06:12 One of my best friends. We always get it as a gift. I had my kids made it. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I get Lou sent to me a fair amount. I get Lou's too.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You know, Bobby is addicted to deep dish pizza. You should talk to him about it tomorrow. We have one in our freezer right now here at the studio. Well, I'd steal it, freezer right now here at the studio. Well, I'd steal it, but I don't have the oven.
Starting point is 01:06:29 On my Instagram, did you see that? You don't follow me, probably. No, on my Instagram, I have a whole thing about deep dish pizza and talking about the whole experience, how you have to go in there, you order, and then you wait like a day and a half. And they're like, do you want something? And you're like, when's it coming? When's it coming? It takes forever.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And then they come out with something. It's like something that they hold glass when they're shaping it. And they're like, here you go. And they take this scoop out and they give you a piece that weighs 10 pounds. Doesn't it make you feel so good when you see it come out? Yeah, those are like pliers. They're like grip pliers. Yeah. And they lay it down you feel so good when you see it come out? And that, yeah, those are like pliers. They're like grip pliers.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Yeah. And they lay it down because they don't want to touch it. They're like, here you go, everyone. Do you put meat on it? Are you a meat guy? I like the layer of sausage.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Sausage layer. Yeah, people don't know it's a blanket of sausage that they put on there. I don't like bits and pieces of, I like every bite. Is this making you feel something right? I have to change my diaper now.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I have to go to the bathroom. Now I have to change my diaper. I need to ask you something about when you said your new hour because it's wild to me. You didn't watch it, did you? Why would I watch that shit? You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 01:07:43 And I did fucking watch your hour. You did watch it? Yeah, I actually did watch your hour because there is something thank you because with comedians there's you can't assume that comedians because we kind of i assume most comedians are like there's like new specials every week so we kind of set aside time like all right i'm gonna watch some at a certain point i do when i'm on the road yeah when i'm in my hotel uh is my favorite time to watch someone's special in fact like the first time segura had a when he had his first special on there i remember i was in chicago on the road and i was doing schomburg and i texted him and i was like hey man i just so proud of you i just want to tell you amazing and he's like fuck you fuck you. You didn't watch it. Like he thought I was, I was like, no, I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I go, I'm out. I'm out of town. And that's almost like the validity. He was like, oh, maybe, maybe you did. Cause I was sitting in my hotel room. Is it your board? It's nothing. You know, I'm like, I want to fill it, but no, I did watch it.
Starting point is 01:08:38 You know, look, I got some notes for you. I know it's already out. You can't go backwards. All right. Tell me what the last joke is you didn't finish it how do you have you ever finished a special i have really you know speaking of chicago there's a couple this is there's a couple mulaney references in it and i'm friendly with mulaney but like i've been texting him and he hasn't responded and so then i asked like i'm
Starting point is 01:09:05 like hey uh did melanie change and you don't want to be like i didn't get the new phone number like rogan changes this number too every week yeah and so like you're like i kind of wanted to give him a heads up that i'm mentioning him a couple times but it's not defense it's not defamatory so it doesn't why would it matter then i guess well I don't know your relationship. He may be very sensitive to you talking about it. No, he's not sensitive at all. But it's just like a heads up just in case, you know. Have you ever talked about someone in a special and you
Starting point is 01:09:33 were afraid that it was going to offend them? Not really. You never mentioned something where, or did you mention like someone but you didn't say their name like a family member or something like that where? I will, I remember when I first started when you were just a twinkle. A wee little lad. I remember I did Caroline's Comedy Hour, and I did my first TV set,
Starting point is 01:09:55 and it was mostly about my dad. And I was like, uh-oh, he's going to find out. My dad's going to find out. And so then he saw it and he loved it. And I was like, I'm so confused. Like I thought that people like that stuff. They like it. Because my dad was kind of a, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:14 no bullshit kind of guy. And so, but he liked it. He appreciated it. And, you know, it was done with affection. What did your old man do? What did he do? He was a banker. Oh boy, real stiff. Well, he was like, you know, it was done with affection. What did your old man do? What did he do? He was a banker. Oh, boy. Real stiff.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Well, he was like, you know, first one in his family to go to college. So it was like he was aspiring to be, like my grandfather made dentures. And I remember thinking, oh, brutal. But he was the first one to get out of the coal mine. Everyone before that was working in a coal mine. Oh, my God. Right? And then you do this jokey bullshit.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Yeah, like my dad was the first one to go to college. We kind of arrive in the middle class, and I'm like, hey, I'm thinking of telling diarrhea jokes. And they're like, what? No, you wear a collared shirt to work. I'm like, nah, I don't want to do that. And they're like all right do you remember the moment that you knew your parents were gonna like that you were making that you made it your parents acknowledged it where they were like holy shit this guy's taken
Starting point is 01:11:14 off well it's yeah i mean i did letterman my dad was still around you killed him which is really weird i did not you did you caused his death part of it um no but like so i was in the newspaper and there was a picture of my dad with my headshot it's uh it sounds like it looked like i was a missing child but it was in uh the you know i think it was what was i think it was you know there was what was it called was it called the it was, you know, there was, what was it called? Was it called the Gary Post Tribune? But I think Gary was, I think they got rid of Gary. Not Gary, Indiana?
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah, no, it was Gary, Indiana. But like, it was, they got rid of the name for the newspaper. Ah, and this is when dad was like, my boy's a pretty big shot comedian guy. My boy did good. Did you get shit for moving to New York? Was that like a whole thing with like oh yeah new york city i was considered you know kind of like jimmy he's well jimmy's doing his it was definitely the comedy thing jimmy's doing the comedy thing when did it flip i think um when i got letterman i think that was you know oh wait a minute this is real i mean there were i mean by the way you have to understand i'm like one of
Starting point is 01:12:34 four boys and and considered third funniest in my family so like there's there's there's two daughters too and they're very funny too but like it was like comedy was like they're like there's two daughters too and they're very funny too. But like it was like comedy was like he's not even the funniest one. So it was like one of those things. Are they successful in their own right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean in – it's like what is success is so individual. I mean I would say that they all made a good living.
Starting point is 01:13:03 That's good. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're happy doing what they make. Yeah. But I think that two of them probably should have gone into comedy. You really think so? I think they could have done well. Better than you?
Starting point is 01:13:14 Probably not. No, who's better than you? Nobody works harder than me. Other than the other people that were nominated and won the Grammys. Yeah, but that's all right. But that's okay. That's all right. Oddly enough, the same people that protested Netflix
Starting point is 01:13:28 for Dave Chappelle's special protested for your special. Why do you think that is? I don't know. They were mad at yours. They were mad. They were very mad. They're like, but you know what's weird? There were, in my special, there was,
Starting point is 01:13:43 there's stuff that pisses people off. Really? There's always. You don't really poke anything in a. No, you have to understand there's people that are, there's always people that are upset. There's people that are like, I'm so disappointed about what you said about marching bands. And I'm like, I was joking. Insane. It's so innocuous i'm so disappointed in how you talked about your wife you know i mean like they're
Starting point is 01:14:12 yeah that's a but that is a thing when you when you talk about you know when you talked about your experience on bob and tom it's like i've also had people come you know like like i don't even remember the comments and they're like you know what i'll run into them and they'll be like you know what i just want to apologize i three years ago i sent a tweet where i said something really nasty to you and i'm like i don't really remember and they're like you know and i was in a bad mood and i'm like that's so weird so like it is strange so but i'm sure you get tweets where i do but but I also, I don't, I don't really do Twitter anymore because I've been exhausted with the political.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Once it went to this political sphere and I saw some of my friends' comics getting into political arguments, I was like, this is a total waste of my time. I thought this was for fun. This is for like putting out shit to the ether and making a joke about nonsense. Right. And then when it got political, I genuinely checked out. I no thanks where did you went to bumble i went to hinge hinge is hinge another that's a dating app yeah yeah and then i shifted over to raya do you do you know raya is no what's right raya is for hot famous hollywood people raya yeah raya yeah riot
Starting point is 01:15:22 or raya it is a riot it's raya r-r-a-y-a how do you determine who can be on there they they let they they tell you if you get in or not you submit are you on it of course not i'm married i don't have to be on oh you're married yeah i'm married but but no but you submit there's a there is a you have to be vouched for, right? You have to be like, someone has to recommend you. You know what I mean? And then they judge you based on your Instagram following, your looks. You have to pay to be on it? No.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Probably. No. No, no, no. But it's an exclusive group that is a invite only and a suggested spade. This is like, spade's the king of this this kind of thing he's on raya of course he's on raya yeah he this is he loves stuff like that he's a holly he's a little hollywood guy yeah no that's so interesting yeah but it's very like exclusive and so it's kind of just like twitter or is it i don't see like i never. It's a sheer dating app. I never did a dating app.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. This is, I didn't do them either. I never got to one. But this is like the, if you're, if you were single, you'd be on Raya just because you work in the entertainment industry. Oh, that's so interesting. And then it's this exclusive collection of men who are dating women way out of their league because they're rich and or famous. collection of men who are dating women way out of their league because they're rich and or famous but wouldn't all that be uh leaked to like the press like people like uh-oh here this guy oh is that when like i remember a couple years ago a couple years ago a couple months ago where like
Starting point is 01:16:59 some someone like i don't want to say uh the name because i might get it wrong but like where older celebrities were sending creepy direct messages is that i mean that's probably where some of that stuff comes from for sure well like you know where like um that or like uh yeah instagram dms or snap or all that stuff like but this kind of app i think is very private oh actually you know what no because a friend of mine's on it and he says if you screenshot it they kick you off like they know you screenshot you know when you screenshot on your iphone and they can tell and they remove you you get you get uh it's like a violation you get removed from the app if you screenshot and send stuff that's brilliant yeah because they want to make it sexy and exclusive.
Starting point is 01:17:49 And it's like this known thing where you're probably talking to famous people because most of the people on there are of some fame or something like that, like athletes and rock stars. Yeah, it's kind of wild. I've got a couple of friends that are on it. And sometimes I let them, they give me their phone so I can thumb through it just so I can see all the famous people that are on it. Who are the hotties on there? Not that you you know i can't disclose yeah uh but i will um are they uh it's a lot of older not older as in age but in um celebrities that from from before people that like blew up in the late 90s right
Starting point is 01:18:23 right yeah and now they're looking for love again because either they're divorced or they're... We're gonna get you on it. I don't need to be on it. I know, but we're gonna just because we're gonna. No, but it's like, it's so fascinating because I guess that makes sense, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Why wouldn't there be that? An exclusive app for the... It's like anything for the wealthy. Once you get a window into the world of like the rich and or or famous you're like oh right that's that that is how they that's of course how they operate different and so it's but it's probably just la or is it everywhere oh come on new york is ripe with all that culture with models and then london and all that of course yeah exactly i mean you see like new New York has the same, there's, okay, this cut from the same cloth, but not the same people. Like people that live in New York that are sexy and hot are the different sex. They're not the sexy and hot people here because here they're more begging to be famous. There they just want to be hot and cool in New York. to be famous there they just want to be hot and cool in new york when i see hot cool people in new york they're like we already made it we're in new york and out here it's like hot cool people that are like i want to be an instagram model and be on a reality show but new york is a reality show
Starting point is 01:19:35 wow you can't beat new york you can't beat being hot in new york look at you you stroll around the streets chicago there's probably that in chic, right? What about John Cusack? There's people in Chicago, right? Yeah, him and Bill Murray. There's a couple of guys strolling around the streets of Chicago, I'm sure,
Starting point is 01:19:55 that are babes. Vince Vaughn, yeah, babes. Vince Vaughn. Mega babes. John Cusack got shit because he was going to, I think it was a playoff game for the White Sox.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah, I saw that. Somebody gave him shit, but you know, he checked a guy. He was like was like i know more about the white socks than you do and he was like do you know so and so so and so so and the guy interviewing him had no idea who any of these players were yeah that's it's that's an example of like we want to do these purity tests on things yeah why i don't know i when the cubs uh wouldn't they hadn't gone they hadn't won the world series i was invited to a world series game and i'm like i'm not going like well because i grew up a cubs fan yeah but i haven't been one you know but you're still one of us i know but
Starting point is 01:20:43 the thing is is like i don't want to take that away from somebody else oh fuck that's crazy you're what is it no that's for you no you earned it no no no i mean i you know as a little kid you know uh i was a cubs fan like you don't even know jose cardinal rick monday I do. I know these guys. Johnny Bench. He was a Cincinnati Red. I know he was. And so, but like, I didn't want to, look, I like the good stuff,
Starting point is 01:21:19 but I don't, like something like that, I don't want to take that away. I get it. I took my dad to the World Series game. It meant the world to us. Huge. It was probably the coolest thing I've ever done. And I printed out the tickets. What a hero. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:21:33 By the way, I beat it, though. What did you do? I brought my mother-in-law, who is a devout Catholic. And she got, because of me, she got to meet the Pope. I knew it, you son of a bitch. I could feel that you were going to do that. Meet the Pope. How do you hook up with the Pope?
Starting point is 01:21:50 Raya? Raya. The Pope is on Raya, imagine. I don't even, I still think you're making this up. I swear to God. Wait, you have to tell me this quickly. Well, that's when I did this thing where I opened for the Pope. Did you crush at the Vatican?
Starting point is 01:22:04 You played the Vatican? No no it was in philly but um so wait a minute so who's opening for you at the chicago theater chris o'connor we call him the turd the turd which is done as a compliment he i call him my little brisket he's a phenomenal comic comic. He lives in New York. He's a Philly guy. Yeah. Philly by way of New York. New York and New York again. Now he lives. Shane Gillis is one of his best friends.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Oh, great. Yeah, you know Shane. Yeah, Shane special is good. Very funny. Yeah. Very funny. Yeah, but- Really overshadowing you. I mean, I don't know why I would-
Starting point is 01:22:43 Why would you let that happen? Years of difference. Years of difference. You know? Jeez. I'm just likeadowing you. I mean, I don't know why I would let that happen. Years of difference. Years of difference. You know? Jeez. I'm just like burying you. Christopher O'Connor is opening for me in Chicago. He does most of the tour with me and I love it because he's, I think he's so funny.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And I think I learned a lesson from Joe. Joe was always like, take somebody that does really, really well before you. He's like, there's guys that'll take people that stink. And he's like, they do that for confidence boosters and ego. He's like, always take someone that's actually a very good comic. Yeah. He's like, don't ever give it to somebody. Then why did he have you?
Starting point is 01:23:15 Okay. I know. I set you up. You set me up. Did I set you up, Sebastian? I mean, it's, you know. Can I tell you something? I used to crush in front of him, and it felt so good in a fucking arena
Starting point is 01:23:26 because i was so nervous to do arenas yeah and i told him i was like i really appreciate doing this with you i don't on a on a solo level i never want to do arenas if i ever get to a place when i could physically do it i don't ever want to do them because they were just it was daunting and then even when i was out there i was like does that guy hear me well in row 4,000 i know what you're saying but it was so far away and i was resistant to it but and i haven't you know i'm not doing it like joe or anything like that but the technology has advanced so much yeah and there's certain arenas where you're like you know what this is pretty good and it is uh it's a fun group situation i mean the chicago theater is 4 000 people that's a lot of people the arenas we did were like 10 and a half there were it was like 8 500 or 10 000 similar
Starting point is 01:24:16 to the excitement of like when you do madison square garden people are like it's madison square garden you know it's not going to be uh you know the intimacy of a comedy club but it's also the eruption of the audience is not the same i think the happy balance from it's just a personal like i think like the wilbur is like a perfect beautiful size i could play a thousand shows there forever i was like that's it's something about that number women in vegas are you doing the win the Win? The Win, yeah. Yeah, I do The Win, too. That's a good theater. Is it?
Starting point is 01:24:47 I've never been out there. Oh, it's a great theater. Do you golf? I don't. Oh, fuck. I was going to say, we should play, but I'm going to go play out there at the course because he's got a course right there. Have you ever played with Nate?
Starting point is 01:24:58 I have. I played with him in Nashville. He's pretty good. Yeah, so Nate, he was doing the night after, and he was there with some golf pros i don't know who they are but they were very nice guys yeah no he's a he is he's obsessed i'm in love he's obsessed yeah he's a teenager i love like you have kids no no kids but i will take your kids and now is there are you guys interested in that or or we're not thinking about yeah sure yeah and what does your wife do besides stripping she does well she she stripping is it we call it intimate massage right uh it's intimate
Starting point is 01:25:33 she's an intimate masseuse right but she's not in the business she's totally disconnected right she wants nothing to do with it she doesn't like it she doesn't want to be a part of it and which i think is kind of nice she so she doesn't want me bringing this up oh no no it's okay i talk about her on the show but she has nothing to do with the world which i kind of love that she's got her own thing here in la in la actually we met in long beach long beach where all the love begins in southern california i heard the beach there's long it's shorter than you'd think and And so you met her there. Brought her up here. You met her. She was dancing.
Starting point is 01:26:08 A lot of dollars. Mm-hmm. Intimate massage. Intimate massage. You're like- I say, quit your job. Stick with me, kid. You'll be okay.
Starting point is 01:26:16 And is she, she's from Long Beach? No, no, no. No, she's from Colorado. Colorado. Wow. One of my favorite, the city,
Starting point is 01:26:22 the state I'd probably want to move to if I could get out of here. Really? Love Denver. Yeah, I love Denver. It's just favorite, the city, the state I'd probably want to move to if I could get out of here. Really? Love Denver. Yeah, I love Denver too. It's just that, there's something about the, it's just,
Starting point is 01:26:29 it smells nicer there. The people are, the disposition is just like, yeah, we're all figuring, we're all trying to stay healthy as much as we can. Yeah. But they also party.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Like it's, I like that people like to drink and then also get some exercise in, but then eat a cheeseburger and then also go for a drink and then also get some exercise in but then eat a cheeseburger and then also go for a hike and then go get stoned and go skiing and i like i like playing all the chords it's you know this is so denver from my perspective this is like so pre-weed being legal i was obviously it was first legal in colorado in the states wrecking ridge no less uh denver i mean denver was a big drinking city oh yeah chicago was a big drinking city milwaukee
Starting point is 01:27:15 um and so it was so interesting to witness the shift of denver from this rowdy drunk audience to like everyone took too many edibles like I remember I used to do meet and greets after shows and like they would be carrying people in yeah because it was they were that was their night to party right and they would you know it was kind of like early when we'd and they they would do an edible and they were like, my friend can't stand because he didn't eat anything for 36 hours. And then he had an edible. Two people at my show, two people at the last Denver run I did. One guy passed out on edibles and they had to escort him out. And then the guy in the front row was on mushrooms and barely could make it through the show.
Starting point is 01:28:04 And did he just like, I got to get out of here out of here no he was trying he was really working at it i would i talked to him for a little bit joked around because i was like are you okay because he really he's right in the front he kept shifting and i was like oh my god but it ended up being a kind of a fun part of the show but also uh denver parties those guys know how to fucking get down are you doing sets while you're in town by the way i i did one last night maybe tomorrow i might i don't know okay i don't know why what are you doing a spot i'm gonna go do it a couple spots later tonight but i i was wondering if you're gonna pop by come by why don't you know why don't you come by the store you only go to the store improv and store you're doing both yeah improv store but i'll do i do a lot of other shows now
Starting point is 01:28:42 in town because during the pandemic, new shows picked up. It was great. Or they revitalized, it revived old shows that died years ago. Oh, wow. And then I started going to Largo. I was really never a Largo guy and I did a couple of shows. And do you live out here where, where this studio is or where do you live? I live in the Los Angeles County area.
Starting point is 01:29:04 You don't want to give it away no these people are nuts come to my house why don't you let your wife leave the house and why does she have an ankle bracelet on uh well that's because of a crime she committed in 08 she vehicular manslaughter and they've got to keep a monitor on her but she was on a scooter i mean deal you you kill you kill you kill that's what i keep saying to her but she was like carrying a knife why would you carry a knife when you're on a scooter? She was a chef. She was a chef.
Starting point is 01:29:28 All right, fine. Your honor. Your honor. No, I do live in the, I live in the valley. I've talked about that. We're in the valley. I live in the valley. I'm a valley guy now.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Is it true that your wife- This is Long Island for you. Would this, is it true that your wife had elf ears attached to her ears so that she would look like a little elf? Did you read my Wikipedia? Is that on there? How do you know that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I just, you know, people talk about it. That's a little suspect. Are people chatting about it? People are chatting about it on the interweb. On what website? It's called web.com. Oh. Is this sponsored by stamps.com no it's not no but i do want to get stamps because i do know that was like mark maron's longest running
Starting point is 01:30:13 stamps has got money there's money in stamps what's your favorite city to perform in by the way i'm in chicago three shows but go on what are you in chic? I am. What are you doing? I'm doing the competing theater that you're in. No, I'm in April. But what theater? Chicago Theater. Oh, you are doing the Chicago Theater. Yeah. I've never done Rosemount Horizon.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Why not? That's perfect for you. It's so funny. It's like I always thought that I didn't know anything about it, and then I talked to a comedian. They're like, it's amazing. You should do it. And I'm like, oh. Yeah, it's great. It's awesome. I can't believe you about it. And then I talked to a comedian. They're like, it's amazing. You should do it. And I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Yeah, it's great. It's awesome. I can't believe you haven't done that. I'm surprised that you used to do Chicago. Because you have to do four shows? Yeah, I don't know. But I like the Chicago theater. And I like, you know, I've got a lot of friends and family there.
Starting point is 01:30:57 All right, I'll be there. All right. My favorite city to perform is probably... Where are you performing performing name one of those well you know right now i'm in atlanta and i love atlanta i love washington dc tomorrow night and then my favorite city boston has shown me an unbelievable amount of love that shocked me i i i thought it was going to be great but um I do love Going Back Home. Boston's an amazing comedy city. It's just so amazing for comedy. Also because there wasn't, I mean,
Starting point is 01:31:29 different from your era of when, I think back then there was like two clubs that were there. There was two, right? I mean, when I was, there was the comedy connection, but like- 1612 or 16, what was that, 1613 back then? 1613, right before we established, I was there when they established Harvard. i was like how about this and they're like uh okay no jim but yeah no boston boston has
Starting point is 01:31:53 changed my i love that city as a city yeah and then when i went there and and did a couple of shows at wilbur i was like this is the greatest pittsburgh pittsburgh's a fun city yeah done that yeah no no p. Pittsburgh's good. Philly's great. New York was scary and I played Town Hall recently and I, New York was always so scary to me.
Starting point is 01:32:12 It's just unfamiliar. Well, but just to be, no, it's just because everybody's there. Like you guys are all there. Yeah. And like LA is all of us and like,
Starting point is 01:32:19 it's just like when somebody from out of town comes and does an LA show, I always think it's funny when somebody comes and does the Wiltern, like a New York guy. I don't know, it's our backyard. It's just strange to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah always think it's funny when somebody comes and does the will turn like a new york guy i don't know it's our backyard it's just strange yeah yeah yeah so it's like when i went to new york i was like seeing all my new york friends
Starting point is 01:32:31 it felt weird but it was it was cool because i was just i was like are people gonna fucking show up in new york i did town hall when i did town hall it was actually the town hall it was actually they were like it was the only hall they had. Yeah. In the whole city. In town. And they were like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:32:49 I remember it was my idea. I was like, you know what? Instead of calling it a town, why don't we call it a city? And they're like, don't be ridiculous. Are you,
Starting point is 01:32:56 that was your idea? It's my idea. When you said don't be ridiculous, what did I think of? There's only one, that phrase. Oh, don't be ridiculous. Come on, who said that? Don't be ridiculous. Don't be ridiculous. Come on that phrase. Oh, don't be ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Come on, who said that? Don't be ridiculous. Don't be ridiculous. Come on, man. Oh, wait a minute. Is that cheeseburger, cheeseburger? No, come on, baby.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Come on, you know, don't be ridiculous. I don't know. Bronson Pinchot. Oh, is Stranger Things or whatever? Well, no, not Stranger Things. Perfect Strangers.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Perfect Strangers. No, that was him in beverly hills cop to eddie murphy don't be ridiculous when he's in the art store he was so amazing for not you know perfect strangers is one of my favorite shows that you mentioned so he got perfect strangers because of that i don't know if that's vice over i think it might be flipped i think he really wait i don't know Yeah I don't know See like If you were By the way When you're
Starting point is 01:33:47 When this takes off You're gonna be able to turn To someone and go Look that up Timmy Yeah right yeah Right? No with Joe it's Jamie pull that up
Starting point is 01:33:55 We used to have Helper producers in here But because of Rona I We stopped having people in here Wow My whole thing was I wanna keep people
Starting point is 01:34:03 Feel people say that If it was in the middle of doing Shows and Corona And touring I was always like It's just me and you Right having people in here wow my whole thing was i want to keep people feel people say that if it was in the middle of doing shows and corona and touring i was always like it's just me and you right so if you get sick or if i get sick we know who did it rona i call it covet yeah that's an east coast west coast thing that's you know it's like the rivalry is insane it's huge it's huge so insane jim um i want first of, I want to thank you so much. I admire you. I respect you.
Starting point is 01:34:27 I appreciate you. I think you're a great man, a great comic. Oh, thank you. And I was going to give you another compliment, but that's it. I think I don't want to give you any more. I'm just so thrilled to be able to talk to Bill Burr's brother. It's just like... Go see Jim. He's on tour right now.
Starting point is 01:34:47 you know it's just like go see jim he's on tour right now uh if you want to go see him his website is of course jim gaffigan.com.com jim gaffigan.com jim gaffigan.com but also but also go to andrew santino.com and then and and go to my shows first and then maybe go to his go to you have to go to andrew's show go to my show chicago and then go to one of your five shows in chicago uh watch comedy monster it's right now it's available on netflix it's um it's jim's worst work but it's it's it doesn't matter at this point it's it i mean i don't want to say that it cures corona, but... Do you think so? I think it might. If you watch the special, you might stop the pandemic. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:35:32 This was a Trump pitch. I mean, the CDC said that. You watch a special, it cures corona. Trump pitched it. I tried this thing. It's this thing. Jim, Jim, you know Jim. He's a big Jim.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Big Jim. Watch Comedy Monster right now available on Netflix. Go see Jim on tour. Jim, you know Jim. He's a big Jim. Big Jim. Watch Comedy Monster right now, available on Netflix. Go see Jim on tour. Jim, look into that camera right there. We end the episode the same way. One word or one phrase to end the episode. Make it count. Happiness.
Starting point is 01:36:01 In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. Whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no.
Starting point is 01:36:20 This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.

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