Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Joe Santagato

Episode Date: August 21, 2020

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I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again. Today, it's Joe Santagaro. Thanks for having me. Cheers, dude. Thanks for being here. What are you sipping on, by the way? This is bullet bourbon i'm fin i polished off the decanter i had today ah bueno bueno not the whole thing today but today

was the day where i dude you can you can do whatever you want if you want to be a drunk you're allowed to be a drunk i'm not going to judge you at all i feel like you would secretly but it's fine maybe honestly no i wouldn't no dude you're a grown man you're allowed to do whatever did you work today did you do something constructive or no absolutely not i had oreos for breakfast and lunch and i had some brownie brittle so a lot of cocoa wait a minute you're a grown adult male how old are you now 28 28 and you can have oreos for breakfast and still be fine listen i've been paying for it all day yeah no shit i mean my like if i don't have that's the thing not no shit a lot of shit a lot of shit a lot of shit if my body yeah for whatever reason my body my entire life has been able to turn anything i eat into water pretty much instantaneously

dude do you need to go to the doctor no yeah 100 like i self-diagnosed myself a while ago it's like i just probably got ibs or whatever you know because if i drink too much water or something like i feel the effect it could you could have something really wrong with you you should go you should go to an actual doctor and get their opinion good call dude good call it's like my dad never went to the doctor so you know i don't go is he alive he's uh yeah he's hanging on by a fucking thread yeah my grandfather never went to the doctor either he's dead that's probably why he was like yeah what do doctors know it's like everything everything you've ever needed to know about life and your health and taking care of

yourself he's gone dude just because of that so you know what go to the doctor joe stop being stubborn go to the doctor right you're going to the doctor just have this thing i just like diarrhea maybe yeah okay well weird weird thing to like but you know so uh let's i'm going to explain our connective tissue we know each other via the internet uh we met we had we did a little baby recording it didn't work out we said let's do it again because we wanted to connect more Joe is a successful content creator is that the best way to say it?

you do YouTube, podcasts, blogs what do you want to call yourself? is a content creator the right word? yeah for the most part now I'm a fucking podcaster I I would say. Yeah. Content creator. How else can you be a content guy? So when the world collapses, what kind of job do you think you could have after all this is over when the internet dies

and we're not allowed to do any of this stuff anymore? Where do you think you're going to go? Uh, well, you know, since when I was younger, my dad, uh, he used to pawn me off to his friends to like work construction for them. He, he would just tell us like tomorrow at 8 a.m. You're going to work for Jimmy. And I'm like, I don't, you know, so I could do construction, I think. Yeah. Yeah. It's been some years, but I could definitely like plaster something,

put up some sheetrock. I could carry stuff. You got, you got pawned off. I still got my youth. You got pawned off by your father. Yeah. So your dad works in construction and sanitation. Sanagato, huh? I know somebody who knows somebody who'll make it so you know nobody. by your father yeah so your dad works in construction and sanitation sanagado huh i know

somebody who knows somebody will make it so you know nobody dude listen just be honest your father's in the mob yeah no he's not he's uh actually a pussy but like he worked construction yeah yeah so he worked he worked construction and and he was a fireman. And, you know, I feel like he had some sort of gambling thing because the fact that I was getting pawned off, I feel like he was losing card games, and that was why. He couldn't pay, and he was like, take the kid. Take the kid. Yeah, you owe us 20 grand.

Apparently that's very common. Giving up your children for your gambling debts? I mean, I don't know if common is the right word. I think it happens. It happens in certain communities. One time our family went to Disney World, and I don't know how, because we did not have that money. And we were just like, he just came home, and he's like,

yeah, I got these tickets. And we didn't even ask. We were like, okay, we're going. I got these tickets. Who knows? I got these tickets. You guys check into the hotel. They're like, hi're going i got these tickets i got these tickets you guys check into the hotel they're like hi mr and mrs adams and they're like your dad's like that's not us no no

no we're uh we're adams we are adams we're the adams this weekend yeah and go to epcot kids enjoy epcot shut up lady don't say nothing our name was santa gato and then at ellis island they changed it to adams so that's why she's saying that that's right right. And when we talked before, we're the same kind of blood, but the opposite on the yin and the yang scale. You're Irish and Italian, me too, except I look like Ireland and you look like a dirty guido. You know what I mean? You do, you filthy wop.

Look at you. I don't think I look... If I had one of those tattoos with prayer hands with rosary beads around, I might be on your side, Did you ever really look like that? Did you ever wear chains in high school? Did you ever wear chains? No, but there was,

I went through like a headband phase when I was like in sixth grade, like I was on headbands and shit. That's Guido. Yeah. I also like wanted to get my ears pierced when I was younger badly. And my sister, yeah, she handled that.

She was like, you're not getting that you're gonna look like a fucking asshole getting your ears pierced how embarrassing and when boys get their ears pierced i never understood that at all my dad was so anti-jewelry so like you'd like men men in my dad's world were like men wear a wedding ring at the most and a watch and that's it and from then i just never i neckaces, all that stuff. I tried a necklace one time in junior high. I thought it was cool back in the 90s.

I thought that was dope, Devin. And it turned my neck green. Remember those days when people had fake chains? Fake chains turn your neck green? You always knew. Yeah, real kids had money. I could never afford a real chain. I had to steal mine from Claire's or some shit like that.

And my neck turned green. And when you're an orange person and your neck is green you've got this oompa loompa effect already it looks it's dude i got clowned on for like a month for my neck i couldn't get the green off my neck because i wore the chain to bed i wore to basketball practice so i sweat in it you know what i mean i sweat i showered so this had a big effect on you didn't it oh dude it ruined my life oh dude i wore it to bed we had to move we we had to move three we had to move to to another city just to get rid of some of the shame but uh i understand man no that that affected my childhood one time i wore a wooden rosary bead or rosary beads whatever the term plural beads yeah there's more than one wooden

yeah there was mad beads but it was wooden and i wore it around and i thought it looked cool and then i look back on you know and i've never really been like super religious like my mom would make us go to church sure uh every sunday are you catholic yeah so so i don't even know what that means to be honest with you. To be Catholic? Or, and like Christian and like Lutheran, all these things. I don't even know what any of it means. I'll break it down.

Get ready, right? This is going to be the exact. Yeah, I'm going to give you a, I'm going to give you a life lesson. Christianity is the umbrella, right? Mm-hmm. All the other ones fall inside of it. all the other ones fall inside of it unless you're jewish or muslim or hindu or atheist and then some are to the side of the umbrella and that's all you need to know that's it got it you got it just log that in got it no i don't christians they uh i don't

christians are the ones who like fly the private jets and do speeches, right, for money. That's evangelicals. That's like the people that do TV stuff. I don't know it as much either. I grew up Catholic, and then we got kicked out of the church because my mom got divorced. It's a big no-no. You can't get divorced in Catholic. You know, Catholics, you have to annul the marriage.

You have to pretend like it never happened, which to me is the most comical bullshit I've ever heard. What? You got kicked out of your church. Well, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. You get, uh. I don't. Did you guys just not go because there was shame

or did they go, Rebecca, turn around. Don't come in here. Who's Rebecca? Is this my second mother? That was my guess. Yeah. No, uh, no, we, you, we just kind of stopped going to Catholic church because of the—

there is like a weird stigma and shame, but also because it was a transition in my life. My mother became a single mother. I don't think we had time to go to church. She was working to raise me. You know what I mean? So we got away from religion for a long time and then kind of came back to it later in life.

My parents did. I, unfortunately, flew from the coop. I couldn't do it i church drove me nuts dude i could i sitting in church honestly it honestly tired it's my actual hell that's my hell is being next to god is like being in that thing is that my nightmare is like people it's sweaty it's hot it's uncomfortable it's stiff there's no it doesn't feel human it feels it feels fake it feels like you're inside of a movie it doesn't feel real it is it does like because i when you go to weddings or whatever and you're like everyone's got their like i just went because my nephew, brand new nephew, right? Just bought him. Just bought him.

Brand new, right? Yeah. He just got baptized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Dip him in the water. Dip him in the water. Dunk him.

Dunk him. But he, which by the way, also mad weird. But because of all the COVID or whatever, they were just like, the way they were doing it was, you know, they were trying to be safe or whatever. But because of all the COVID or whatever, they were just like, the way they were doing it was, you know, they were trying to be safe or whatever. The guy actually told us, the guy, the priest, the father, the pastor, they're all the same to me. The guy. Could have been a deacon. I don't know.

I don't, I'm not, I'm not up on that. Could have been a deacon priest. He came in with a, basically a paint bucket of water that he brought from his house. Right? water that he brought from his house right and then as he's talking to us picked up the bucket and pouring it in the fucking whatever the thing is tabernacle or whatever the fuck that's right tabernacle it's probably not right but i love saying that word it's in the uh in the chalice callus i don't know i don't know what it's called right on your nephew's face right it's a bowl no so he and that's another thing he couldn't touch baby, so he's using cotton balls to give him a little pseudo how you doing on his head.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. A little one, two, three, four. A little bam, bam, bam, bam. There was a point in the ceremony that everyone had to have their hands stretched out. Whoa, don't do that. What was that? Don't do that, Sim. That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. But no one was doing this, right? Because this is the bad one. It was close-fisted? When you straighten your hands. Yeah, you don't do that what was that don't do that that's what i'm saying but that's what i'm saying but no one was doing this right because this is the bad one it was close fisted in your hands yeah you don't do that fisted oh you're giving a damn yeah i think close fist is up here this is bad but everyone was just kind of like you know whatever like it was very star wars it was like everyone's trying to use the force on this baby but everyone had their hands out i'm like this looks like a cult like like weird. It feels weird. It is a cult, my friend. All religions are cults.

There is no such thing as a cult-free religion. It is inherently a cult. You're following the belief system of one thing. And by the way, I'm not anti-religion. I'm fine.

I don't care. If you love it, you love it. Go get it. Do your thing. It's just, I just know I'm not good in those scenarios.

It doesn't do any good for me. I buckle under those, that vibe. It's like it gets me nervous and anxious, and I start to be like, why am I a part of this thing? What does this mean to me? I question it too much. I should have been Jewish.

All my Jewish friends, they're supposed to question religion left and right. That's their whole, that's like part of the gig. Christians are like, you don't question shit. You shut up, you show up, you go home. That's like the gig. It's like, be quiet, listen to. You shut up. You show up. You go home. That's like the gig. It's like, be quiet. Listen to the guy in the robe. Go home. I will say it's a little easier than the religions where they send you on little adventures.

And you got to do missions. Oh, dude, I did it. I did it. You did a mission? No. Well, no, no, no. Not like that. I did a thing called Go and Serve, which is like a church charity.

No, no, we went and built houses for Habitat for Humanity. It wasn't like we weren't preaching the word of our church. It was like we had to. We went to build houses in South Carolina for families that were, you know, that houses had been decimated from hurricanes and, I mean, tornadoes and storms and whatever. We went and built houses for a summer. It was the worst summer of my life, dude. The worst summer of my life. Dude, you went on a religious trip. Yeah. Yeah, dude. And all I tried to do- On a plane. Yeah, dude. Well, the whole time, all I wanted,

I would to go build houses for people. I thought was doing the right thing and then you got there was hot yeah okay it was i mean the whole time i was trying to get some nookie i was working hard on girls my like you know you're like 13 you're horny all you're doing all you want to do is chat up chat up young girls and and run around and play sports yeah i didn't want to build a house for the homeless press your dick up on stuff yes pressure yes yes do you remember when you first started discovering like i mean 13 is a little late but like before that i'm talking about like sixth or fifth grade where you start figuring out like it feels good when i touch this thing yeah like 11 and 12 yeah when you start rubbing the sheets too when you stay in the bed a little bit too long in the mornings yeah isn't

it weird you start like using shampoo in the bed a little bit too long in the mornings. Yeah. Isn't it weird? You start like using shampoo in the shower a little differently. Right. Right. Your mom is like, you're running through shampoo. You don't even have that much hair. Yeah.

I do. That's when you switch to conditioner. That's right, dude. That's when you do that. You can use less for more, less for more with conditioner. Yeah, dude,

I went on a, I went on a church trip, uh, uh, uh, to build houses for the homeless. And then inevitably, dude, I went on a church trip to build houses for the homeless. And then inevitably, as soon as I could become like my own boy, decision-making wise, I told my parents I didn't want to go to church anymore.

I couldn't do it, man. It really wasn't for me. My parents had the same thing. So my dad wasn't religious. He would never go to church. I mean, he did in the beginning, but then he fell off of that. But my mom and my grandmother, her mother, were very into where the kids are going to church every Sunday. Oh, yeah.

Sunday school and shit. Yeah, dude. Went to Sunday school. It's a nightmare. School on the weekends. So literally you have to like go. Sunday school. It's a nightmare school on the weekends. So literally you have to like go. And then, uh, in eighth grade you make your confirmation. And then after we made it, like her deal was like, after your confirmation, you can decide whether you want to be like

religious or not. But up until that, you're going to go every day, which was like, you know, that's fine because I, I I'm glad I know like somewhat about religion and, you know, I kind of went through the motions there. Sure. But, you know, also my CCD teacher, which is that is a Sunday school. She fucking hated me, dude. She heard me curse one time and then she just had it out for me. What did you say?

Do you remember? I said, I mean, I said, fuck. Oh, I don't remember what I said, but I was at my friend's house and I didn't know my fucking teacher was the tenant downstairs. So we're hanging out in the hallway and I'm over here shooting fucks around and then she heard it and then she then in class she like subtweeted me out loud to me but didn't say my name so only me and her knew what the fuck she was talking about she's like you know some people they have a mouth on them and this and that and i'm like fucking mrs whatever the fuck your name is you're like praise god those people deserve to go to hell those people deserve to go to hell.

Those people deserve to go to hell. Yeah, those are bad people, guys. Those are bad people. When did you have your first drink? How old were you? Honestly, I would say late, quote unquote, late in life. Probably like 16, 17. That's pretty normal.

I feel like that's actually pretty normal most people are around around mid high school is when i think most people have their first taste of the sauce that's not that late but that's the thing like the first time i drank i like drank because i was like oh like i'm now i'm gonna do this thing like it was such a thing to do bad boy and i didn't but i wasn't like drinking like i wasn't going to parties and like drinking at all i didn't start doing that until i was like 18 or 19 yeah but i think that that's pretty normal you you say it like it's i think that's pretty like i had my first drink when i was 14 or something like that with my friend matt we

stole a bottle of booze from his dad and we drank it down behind their house but but i don't think i started drink huh liquor yeah it was liquor yeah it was liquor and it was uh damn yeah we said we were drinking it was it was whiskey it was uh god it had to been some bottled shit it had to been like seagrams or something canadian whiskey something like that that it was something like that that was like you know a plastic bottle in the back of the cabinet that we thought he would never know. You know what I mean? But I didn't start drinking or going to parties until I was about 16. Same thing.

I was smoking pot when I was 14, 15. That I found early. I was smoking weed out of pop cans, crushed Coke cans. I feel like that's harder to do smoking weed younger no yeah no because i didn't get no because because it was older brothers right anybody that had an older brother could get weed anybody that anybody that had an older brother that was a couple years older than us they could always find a way to get weed because they always had one one bad friend who would get brick weed you know mexican brick weed mean, that's what we had in Chicago was this like clumpy brick hard.

It didn't even smell good. It kind of smelled like just like empty, rotten. It was like an empty, rotten yard waste bag. It wasn't good. It had seeds in it. That's what it was, dude. Back then, back in the late late 90s no one had access to good pot we we all smoked trash now kids getting bad pot would be harder to do today to find bad

weed would be almost impossible it's it's great it's creepy to think about one time when we were younger one of our friends had like just started smoking pot so we're so we're like we're gonna fuck with this kid because clearly you know when when kids just started smoking pot. So we're like, we're going to fuck with this kid. Because clearly, you know, when kids first start smoking pot, they think they're like cool. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So I'm like, so we're like, all right. So we rolled a joint with oregano. Just that.

Such a dick move. And, you know, he smoked all of it. Yeah. Which I feel like if I even have a pinch of oregano just by itself in my mouth my throat will burn it's a lot yeah it's a lot it's but this dude's inhaling oregano it's a real it's a real italian that's a real italian yeah he claimed that he was high he's like oh yo i'm feeling this and i was like i bet you are there fuck he might be though honestly he might have been fucked up just because the the uh the amount of ingesting of oregano

might have just baked his head a little bit. Not stoned, but he probably was getting sick. His body was just fighting it off. He's like, I think I'm high, man. He's like, I'm not high, but I have a sore throat. You would not believe right now. And I never want to have pasta ever again for some reason. I don't know what's wrong with me.

No, dude, we had so much access to bad pot that it was just such, it was everywhere. Bad weed, it wasn't hard to get. Liquor was harder to get because we had to steal it all the time. In high school, a buddy used to work at this gas station across the street from a liquor store. And in the winter, we used to wear those puffy jackets. I mean, you know, you grew up with the winter and the East Coast. We'd wear those puffy down jackets, you know, and I would walk into this liquor store and I would pad my arms with liquor. I'd slide bottles inside that puffy jacket. And I, we used to, you know, we used to steal cause chicks loved it was, um, Bacardi O the, the orange flavored Bacardi. Do you know when other, when Bacardi came out with, oh dude, the girls... Because if you could get some Bacardi,

yo, chicks were going to come hang out. If you got anything... Girls didn't want whiskey or... Vodka was fine, but if you could get a flavored rum or something... Oh, dude. Like Bacardi Big Apple or Bacardi Dragon Passion,

whatever the fuck that shit is called. Passion Fruit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, some... There was a dragon flavored bacardi i know what you're talking about yeah fucking drown in that shit yeah dude if you got some bacardi-o back in our high school days i would steal two or three bottles and then we just casually walk out someone would some somebody would try to buy like you know snickers and chips

and whatever just to like buy something to distract them and they knew at some point they stopped letting us in the store but they never caught us i was proud of that dude they we never once got clipped i feel like everyone went through a point in their life where they were stealing shit because i went through a big klepto phase of my life that every time i went to a deli i was stealing like same every single time same and you know what or like a walgreens or cvs where they were like what was uh genovese it was genovese back then uh but i every I went in there, I was leaving with something. What was your thing to steal? Can I get a slushie?

Turn around to the slushie, and I'm fucking piling M&Ms and Mike and Ikes in my fucking pants. What did you steal the most? Candy when you were a kid? You think you stole candy the most? Oh, yeah, mostly candy. Okay, I stole CDs. That was what we stole the most. I stole CDs. That was what we stole the most. We stole CDs. We'd go into Best Buy. Kids love music. Dude, we just

couldn't. Well, I didn't want to pay 20 bucks for a CD. So we would go into, we'd go into Best Buy and you know how they tape the tops of CDs. So the tops have tape on them, but the bottoms don't. And the CDs of course are on a hinge. So you just popped off the bottom hinge. You flipped up the top. You grabbed the CD. You could close the case and put it back. We used to do that all the time and then trade CDs in school and sell them for five bucks a pop. We were bad.

I was a bad kid, dude. Yeah, you were. You were a piece of shit. And then we'd go in the parking lot and we would steal what we used to call chromies. They were hubcap covers for your air vent on your tire. you know what i'm talking about your car if they're really if they were nice and shiny on like a benzer a beamer they'd be custom and we jacked those yeah the ones they would look like dice i mean yes you know we probably live in different neighborhoods but they were like the ones around here were like skull and bones and like dice and you're like i don't know who

the fuck i'm stealing this from they're probably probably going to kill me. We did live in different, yours had little guns on them. Yeah, little Tommy guns right on the hubcap covers, right? Yeah, that's exactly what it was. Was your neighborhood as a kid, was it like, was it all Italians? Did you grow up around a bunch of wops?

No, no, my, there's a Greek part of my neighborhood, but then it's also, it's very like diverse honestly like if you like the elementary school up the block my mother works there and she uh says like there's indian kids there's muslim kids there's black kids there's white kids there's asian like everyone's like everywhere the only thing i will say is that i haven't there's not really like a big asian population here but everything else, there's a lot. Well, cause where are you again? You're in, you're in Queens. No. Yeah. I'm

in Queens. You're in Queens. Yeah. But I mean, you know, New York is so diverse already, right? It's inherently diverse. And by the way, all the Asians are over here. We keep them on the West coast there. That's ours. Those are our friends. There's also a neighborhood flushing where you can't, you know, skip a rock without hitting an Asian. Right, right, right. And are you skipping rocks and hitting Asians? What are you doing, dude? You're going to get canceled. I mean, I'm honestly not great at skipping rocks.

Maybe two skips, maybe. You know this guy, Sanagato, he skipped a rock, he couldn't hit an Asian if he tried. Dude, a thousand rocks, he couldn't hit one. Yeah. Honestly, honestly, though, that was one thing as a kid in Chicago. Like, I grew up in the city when I was a kid, and then we moved to the western suburbs when I went to high school. And the thing that I always noticed in Chicago, like I grew up in the city when I was a kid and then we moved to the western suburbs when I went to high school

and the thing that I always noticed about Chicago that later in life I would find was different from other cities, Chicago was mostly black, white, and Puerto Rican. Like Polish, I would count,

there's the biggest Polish population outside of Warsaw and Chicago. Or no, it's bigger than Warsaw now, but Polish kids look like white kids. Yeah, there's more polish people in chicago than in warsaw poland yeah per capita yeah because is that even possible we have a man in warsaw people that people that couldn't make it people that couldn't get out dude i don't know jesus yeah we have a

huge polish population in chicago but puerto rican is. So Puerto Rican, black, white, and it's really those three. It's like I didn't see a lot of other, you didn't really see a lot of other kids besides black, white, and Puerto Rican. I mean, it just wasn't common. And then when I moved to the West Coast, you know, my first friend out here was an Asian kid. And I just thought about it. I was like, I only had a handful of Asian kids that were at my school. It was mostly black, white, and Puerto Rican kids, and you just, in your mind scope of where you grow up,

that's how you think the rest of the world is, you know? And then when you move out of your neighborhood, you're like, oh, shit, this is not at all what the rest of the world sees. You know what I mean? That's why people that get stuck at home or stuck in their neighborhood, that's why, on a bigger scale, that's why we all have such slanted views of society because that's you only know what you know until you get the fuck out of your thing you know and that's why i feel like i'm blessed to have grown up where i did because in our neighborhood like you can't really

pinpoint like what kind of neighborhood this is because it's not it's i wouldn't call it like a bad neighborhood because there's terrible neighborhoods around here that I'm like, we're not that, you know? But like, it's also not like, uh, the greatest neighborhood in the world because there's other neighborhoods where you're like, that is a neighborhood that people refer to as like, this is where it's completely safe and blah, blah, blah. Nothing ever crazy happens there. So it's like where I am is kind of like in the middle of a bunch of different things. And growing up the schools that I went to to like i went to public school my whole life until high school and then like during

that time like when i went to elementary school it was very diverse i don't even know it seemed like there was everything there and you couldn't pinpoint like there wasn't more white people than whatever like it was just very diverse my My middle school was predominantly black and Hispanic. And then my high school was super white. It was a Catholic high school. But there also was a big, like, black and Asian population there also. So, like, for me, I grew up around all this shit. Everybody.

I know Indian kids kids i know black kids i know asian kids and i know how to like communicate with everyone you know what i mean so it's like it's so hard for me to listen to other people especially now with all like the racist shit that's going on to be like how could you even possibly think that but then at the same time i start to understand because i'm, this person probably lives in a neighborhood where it's only white people. And it's and like they just have a view of like I can say whatever I want because I'm not offending anyone in my neighborhood. And I don't have to deal with any sort of. Well, yeah, if you live in a bubble, you live in a bubble.

Right. If you if you don't meet other people, you don't know other people. And that's which is I learn about their culture. Sure. You never get to taste their food. That's a big one to me. You really want to learn to like a different culture than your own? Go taste their food. That'll tell you everything you need to know. You know what I mean?

Like when you get to taste another culture's food, if it's good, you get it. You understand a lot of things. You know what I mean? You get why like South American women are spicy and angry and can beat the shit out of you. You're like, this food is, is just like the women there. I understand culture because of their food. Yeah,

dude. Speaking of hitting my, you know, I, you don't ever date a South American girl. She'll beat the shit out of you. I have a restraining order on three women from South America, dude.

Okay. Three Brazilian girls. Yeah. These are all fake teeth. All of them. Brazilian in South America. Brazilian in South America, dudeica dude oh i'm thinking never mind you know what this entire you know where do you know where south america is i do

it's south of the north america no i thought you're saying south africa yeah south africa south south africa too bro those yeah same thing abusive women training disorders you got you got over there three dude three same three i do three in every country three three three but i get them on them they hurt they they're abusive you know they're really i mean not i they're i used to tell a joke about uh the first one i dated i dated at my first black girlfriend when i was oh i don't know how old i was we were living in the city but i used to tell this joke where i used to say um that was my first and my last black girlfriend. And not because I don't want to, you know, not because I don't want to date a black girl again. It's just they hit too hard.

And if you get it, you get it. No, you know, she did. She beat the shit out of me. When I told her I didn't want to date her anymore, she slapped me in the face in front of everybody. It hurt so bad I almost took her back. Dude, when I was in middle school, I remember these kids came up to me

and they were like, yo, Devin wants to fight you. And I was like, what? And this is a girl that I just knew. Oh, Devin is a girl. Devin's a girl. Yeah, she was. Yeah, and you used to call her Girl Devin because there was a dude Devin too. That makes sense.

They were like, yo, Devin wants to fight you. And I was like, I haven't even spoken to this girl in my entire life. No, she's going to fight you. Bro, I was legitimately scared. Should be. Because she was going to beat the fuck out of me, man. She was going to beat that ass. In middle school, I was a scrawny little dude.

I would have got my ass whooped. One time in middle school, I was dating this girl. And like a week after we broke up, right? She broke up with me. I'm not over it. Don't ask me about it. But we broke up, and a week after, these kids from another school came, these girls, and whooped her ass on the sidewalk right after school. Man, I was glad I wasn't dating her at that time.

Wait, why? Why did they beat the shit out of her? Yeah, what? She was running her mouth or something? You know, that's not my business. So I don't really know. You know, I don't... It's not my business.

Stuff I don't need to know. I was just excited that I didn't have to have the, like, you're her boyfriend do something because one of those bitches were huge. And she had reach. And she could have punched me from, like, six feet away. 6'2", 255.

Yeah, dude. And there's nothing worse than getting your ass whooped by a girl in middle school. You'll never come back from that. Happens to the best of us. When you were in Catholic school, I never went to Catholic school, but a lot of my friends did. Did you have to wear the uniforms? Did you have to do that stupid tie and all that? So stupid, dude.

No, it wasn't a tie. Our high school just had these different colored polos that you could choose from and different colored pants what about the girls they have to do they have to wear the catholic school girl thing by the time that i was going there it was the same so the girls had to wear the same things as the guys like pants and a polo pants and a polo yuck yeah gross dude how weird gross but when my sister went there she's older than me i think she's like 32 or some shit i stopped counting but she uh she could they were wearing skirts then right yeah i was just gonna say my generation girls wore skirts and knee-high socks and the boys wore uh a shirt with a tie all my friends had to wear a shirt and a tie and right blue slacks or whatever it was

with uh yeah blue slacks and dress shoes i always i thought that was so ridiculous i remember thinking how dumb that was that they had to chew that they made them wear certain clothes it always made me laugh to think that like the place you went to to learn told you the clothes you had to be inside of a building to wear otherwise it was blasphemous you can't learn yeah god wouldn't accept you we're not gonna let let you learn. Right. And who made it up? Who made that up?

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Ginger. I like gingers. You know what's so funny is I had to talk about this last night, not to stick on the religion thing, but I had to talk with my old bag last night about that, about like, it is so funny that we just like, if a police investigated if a if a detective investigated stories of the bible today like with current technology they would call

out everything do you know what i mean like right like if you saw if they did like a 24 or 48 hours on uh uh on any story in the bible they would solve it right away they'd be you know they'd be like yeah this guy they they killed this guy, Jesus, and then he disappeared from this cave. The body's missing. The cops right away would be like, well, somebody stole the body, or he's alive and he ran away. Let's question some people.

Let's go find out who stole the body and what they did with it. I'm pretty, I mean, I'm not certain, and I don't want any biblical historians to hit me up with some crazy. My audience is all biblical historians. So you're going to love this. That's why I was nervous about coming on the show and talking about religion. Cause I didn't want to, you know, I know I'm going to get fact checked, but, uh, I'm pretty sure there was a story about a guy named Abraham who God told him to like kill his own son or some shit like that. He sure sacrifice his own kid and i love how at that time you could just be like god told me and they're like oh they're like we're gonna write this down and we're gonna pass it along right forever forever not gonna arrest you no not gonna

do anything you didn't do anything the guy probably just killed his son you didn't do anything wrong god tell you if i and god tell you to kill your son i get it we should yeah we need to do we have we need to have something like that today you know trump told me to kill that guy it's like all right it's fine yeah if trump said it you might as well do it yeah it's all there was a burning bush there was a burning bush it's like yeah man it was the desert sometimes things spontaneously dude go to go to go to north la right now it's all on fire there's a bunch of burning bushes how many jesus's are in those fires a lot what are you talking about well there's a lot of guys named jesus here in southern california all right dude here we go here we go yo so uh what i want to ask you is um so i'm for people that aren't familiar with

with your your content you've been making stuff for years now. You're extremely popular on the YouTube. It's impressive to say the least. I don't want to stroke your ego. But honestly, you've created kind of like a multimedia, multifaceted platform on the Internet for yourself, which is very impressive. And you did it from scratch, right? You didn't have any jump into this game. It wasn't like you had help. You figured it all

out on your own and you were kind of like there for, from the beginnings of this, which is why you've cultivated such a great continuation and a following you think? Yeah, I think because when I first started doing it, like there was no like MCNs, which are for the people who don't know, those are the networks that like every YouTube channel like signs to, and they like help you get brand deals and this and that, like those didn't exist. Right. I don't,

I think Google AdSense was a thing, but it wasn't, no one was making a career off of YouTube or anything. I just always had an interest in doing it. Like my mom had gotten me a, like a camcorder that recorded on cassette tapes and to film shit we would like keep rewinding and then record over it like that's how you would edit yeah you know you have to do your takes that way so i just always had like a

thing for it and then someone i remember in high school like i was leaving a lot of videos on people's facebook walls when that first came out in high school. And, uh, one kid was like, Oh dude, you should start a YouTube channel. And I,

I was, I didn't even know it was a thing, but, and then there was someone like Jenna marbles at the time who she was like, just starting to be like a mega star on the internet. Yeah. She got huge. She was like the first of her kind,

kind of, you know? Right. Um, and I was like, Oh wow, that's pretty cool. And like, whatever. And she was doing those like rants. So I was like, you know right um and i was like oh wow that's pretty cool and like whatever and she was doing those like rants so i was like you know what i'm gonna do that and yeah so i was just doing it i did one i put it on you know my facebook page and like like 10

people liked it and i was like that's pretty cool attention is sick so then the next week i did another one on i don't even know and then like a couple more people liked it and they were like encouraging me for the most part and then I it just like became a thing and uh how many how many years now how many years have you been doing it uh eight or nine like is it does it ever blow your mind that it's your career like it does it do you ever sit back and go like this wild that like half of of your peers probably went to college for a thing. And like your friends from back home, they went to school and now they're working a career in that field. Is it ever kind of surreal that you're like, this is my whole life?

This is my career is creating on the internet? Yeah, I mean, it is surreal. I don't, I mean, actually surreal wouldn't be like the word I would use because I don't step back and go, this is crazy. Like I literally just feel like I'm, this is dramatic, but for lack of a better word, like fighting for my life every day in the sense of like, I don't think this lasts forever, you know? And I think that everyone who thinks that, that's why they don't last long. They have like two or three years

for the most part and they burn out and you forget about them but like i constantly feel like like i wouldn't even call it a career because i feel like i don't even know what the fuck i'm doing here i just have to continue to adapt and change because i mean especially what we're dealing with now uh you know with the technology and everything like things are changing every five seconds sure you have to adapt sure you know at first you want to go dude fuck tiktok that's for children but then you also are like but there's a big audience there and i need to like adapt i need to like it's a new media exactly so you have to constantly do those things and um yeah so i i just i feel like it's never felt surreal to me i just always felt like I'm treading water and hopefully,

and like, it's been working out for me and I'm not like downplaying, you know, the fact that I've been able to, you know, do this for a long period of time or whatever. It's just day to day. It honestly just feels like today I have to make sure I don't blow it, you know? But that's a great place to be dude, honestly, because you'd rather that than the alternative, which is many people, I have friends that do jobs that I know they hate. Right. And they kind of meander through that job. And I'm not saying this is this is the alternative to that. I'm just saying at least at least you get to do something where your your risk and your reward are both very high. Right. There are a lot of people that the risk is none and the reward is none, but it's a stable, flatline thing. So I think there's something

wonderful about putting your, quote unquote, fighting for your life and putting your life on the line. It's really just you're holding yourself accountable for your own future. That's kind of a cool thing. I'm impressed by that. I'm impressed by that with anybody who is a content creator. I'm a comic and an actress. And like to me, the volatility of that world is kind of what I like. But but doing what you do is even scarier to me because it's your sole focus has to be the creation and the the manipulation of this world you live in, and it has to constantly kind of keep adhering to what's going on. Because at some point, YouTube could just shut down.

And then what? 100%. Yeah. What would you do? And that's the thing. What would you do? You know, the crazy part is, like, what would I do? I mean, I would figure it out.

I mean, I do have a lot of, like, different backup plans and things like that, because I mean, that is a very real thing. I mean, we saw it happen with Vine where they were just like, yeah, no more. And then everything was done. And for the people who thought that was going to last forever, even though you couldn't really monetize Vine, like a lot of these Viners that were like, you know, whatever, besides the ones, there was like a very select group of people that were getting paid like 40 grand to do a vine from like Pepsi. But other than them, I'm talking about people with millions of followers. We're making zero dollars because there was no real way to monetize that. But if you take that and you like, don't, you know, you put your pride and ego aside and go like, this isn't going to last forever.

I need to figure out how to be good on other platforms. And for whatever reason, not on purpose and not because like I'm intuitive or whatever, but I was just like, I'm going to do all these things. Like when I first started, I had like a Snapchat. I had the Twitter account, the Instagram, like all these things. And I was trying to build them all at the same time. But they're all like to build your Twitter account and to build a YouTube account are completely different. So I was very interested in doing all of it. Uh, and you're building them all at the same time because you learn a lot from that. You know what I mean? Like you see a lot

of people that have a really big Tik TOK account, but they have like 25,000, uh, Instagram followers. Like for me, at least in my career, that's never been the case like everything sort of floated around the same thing because i've been trying to understand each platform like what works here and what right you know whatever and it's like i mean you i'm sure you're doing it right now too like with tiktok where it's like okay i'm clearly like there's an age gap and i'm a little disconnected but i have to go through all this shit to kind of understand like what this platform is and how can I build an audience here? How could I use it to, to not like sell out and start doing dances and shit? Cause that's not me, but figure out how can I use it in a way that benefits my business? You know? So it's, I just did that off the bat just because I was young and social media was

like a new thing kind of. and, uh, I was just interested in it. So I just like happened to fall into that, but now I feel like it's harder to do that. Maybe. I mean, who knows? I mean, we don't have that perspective, right? Like, I don't know what that feels like now to be young and to start jumping into the world of like, I watched these videos the other night, these two guys that are on Tik TO TikTok, I'll just sit aimlessly on the toilet and scroll. And these two twin brothers, and they have speech impediments. And they're like twins, and they both talk like this. And it's the most annoying thing on earth. But I watched like 30 of them. And I couldn't wrap my head around why they were successful, other than the fact that their parents had a lot of money. They lived with mommy and daddy and they had this massive house and they were just like pranking each other. But I feel

like the bar has been set so low now for internet creation, where when I first got into the internet, you had to really make something unique and kind of bold to like stand out in that space. And guys that were doing it were blowing stand out in that space and guys that were doing it were blowing my mind some of the people that were doing stuff it was like holy shit the amount of effort they put into it was was crazy but yeah now i think it's just it's just changed hands and you know i don't want to sound like a boomer about it but it's like it's whack i think it's just kind of like now there's so much stuff that you're like there's no effort or no it just doesn't there's no creativity now that i see like there's no effort or no it just doesn't

there's no creativity now that i see on these things you just have to prank your brother or prank your mom i i don't know i don't know it's weird it's weird because there's like a double edged sword there because like like you said when i first started coming to the internet and like doing youtube there was jenna marvel specifically who was doing this type of thing like talking to a camera and like whatever so that to me was was like, OK, I can do that. And then there was someone like Jimmy Tatro, if you're familiar with him. I remember him. Yeah. He was doing a lot of sketch comedy that I thought was really good.

And you can tell that he was putting effort into it. And it just stood out to me because I'm like, this is not only funny, but you could clearly see there's effort here. And it's not just this bubblegum bullshit that that's 90 of youtube here catering to like 11 year olds like he was finding a like college audience because he was like around that age at that time so that was also like another source of inspiration like i think he's great and also the stuff he's doing now i think is awesome also but he even he i mean i haven't had this conversation with him but i feel like even he started to see that I'm putting so much effort and money into these sketches, but the ROI is not worth it for me. You know, like the

return that I'm getting on these things is just not worth it because now you can make a 10 second TikTok go viral and now you have a shot. You're on the stage to build an audience, you know? Right. and now you have a shot, you're on the stage to build an audience, you know? Right. So it's a lot easier now because like, especially with a, you know, a platform like TikTok, which I don't know if they do this on purpose, but I think it's genius that I feel like everyone gets a shot on that app. Like every profile you go to, for the most part, they have at least one video

that has like 40,000 views or 120,000 views. And then the rest of them are like whatever i feel like if you give everyone a shot on an app like that and you give them that attention they're going to be chasing that forever and they'll well that's shit that's that's also because it's like here in the united states at least it's in its infancy right like you look at something like youtube as a parallel youtube did feature a lot of new branded things at one point. Now they're so big, it would be impossible for them to feature new shows and new stuff. So I also think it's small here in America.

TikTok is relatively new in the past couple of years. If it sticks around for a decade, that won't be the case anymore. It'll just be a branded aggregate of the girl, the twin girls, the girls, D'Amelio or whatever. It'll be like them, and that's all you would get on your For You page. I start to see the business part of it already. When I was walking last night with the old bag, there was a picture in a window of an old makeup store with those girls, and they had a big makeup campaign ad.

of an old makeup store with those girls. And they had a big makeup campaign ad. And it was, it's crazy to me because when I was a kid to get like a makeup campaign was like super, like Sydney Crawford, like Cindy Crawford, like supermodels, dude,

like people that were like acclaimed by like sports illustrated and world renowned photographers. Now you just have to be good at dancing bad online. And they're like, we got to give this girl a campaign. It is, it weird to me the shift and i and and i'm not i'm mad at it but it's weird to it's interesting to watch it's interesting to see the next frame come into into view and go okay this is how we have to adapt it's the same thing that's happening with comics we're learning to adapt guys are doing shows outside we're doing drive-in shows people have to figure out the way to to to make this work you know like you know i guess that my next my

next question for you really is what i want to know is your family did like are they supportive of what you do in in this career or is it kind of a joke to the do they they mock you about it no my family's been supportive. My dad still, just because he... My dad has a flip phone. He's just not... He basically is living in the mountains. I love that guy. Your father has a flip phone?

Does he play Snake on it? He does. Has he still got the old Snake and all that stuff on there? You should see this guy's fingers. I'm surprised he could even dial my number. Is your dad fat? He can't be fat. He was a firefighter.

Guy's huge. He is? guy's huge he is he's a bunch of weight because he almost died uh what happened what do you have a heart attack yeah now he didn't have a heart attack but like i don't even know what the fuck happened honestly like he showed up for like my sister's wedding and he was purple and we were like you should probably go to the doctor and then he got to the doctor and they're like you need to lose weight you're dying and he's like all right and then he did like he looks great now like but he's always been a bigger dude like i'm talking like 290 oh shit he's five seven oh my god your father's a bowling ball yeah yeah and wait how long he was young because when he was younger he was like an insane athlete

like he could jump he could dunk he could fucking bench 315 pounds he ran a four or five like he was an animal so he's like a solid dude like he's not like a messy kind of fat he's right right right he's right he's rotund he's rotund yeah like his stomach is huge but it's solid yeah it's years of strong that's years of dad that's all years of dad i know that dad's stomach is like years and years of being a father it It's like an arm of Dillo's back. Right. It's insane. Yeah.

I feel like if you shot him, the bullet, there's no way that bullet goes through. It'd be ballistics gel. It'd bounce right off. It'd be like shooting into gelatin. Ballistics gel. It'd pop right off. Wait, your dad was a firefighter for how long? Firefighters have a lot of love in my heart because my grandfather was a firefighter.

To me, as a kid, it was the thing I thought I would do. When I was in school, I thought if I can't get any job, if I don't know what I want to do by the time I'm out of here and I just don't land a job making cash, I was thinking about I would just go be a firefighter like my grandfather because I loved it. Oh, you did? I took the test and got called.

Really? Yeah, I got a 99. So you were gonna be a new york city firefighter huh i was i was gonna be nypd wow you hear me fdny fdny so wait but why why did you decide not to be a firefighter because at the time uh things with my online career were looking up and, uh, I was like making money. And I also had a job not like aside from that. Cause I worked a, like a nine to five job as an editor and producer for this company until, you know,

I had over a million subscribers on YouTube and I still had a nine to five job. Like I remember going, I had to, for that job, I had to fly to LA and I had to remember going, I had to, for that job, I had to fly to LA and I had to round up, not round, I mean, round up, but like, I had like to work with a bunch of like influencers who were like popping on Vine at the time. And, you know, I was directing the

shoot for it, you know, and I, we were doing like a talking head kind of thing. So I was, you know, their call times and this and that. And I remember this kid, this one kid, I forget his name. But he was like, oh, you're here too? I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, oh, so when do you go? I was like, what? And he's like, oh, you're working here? Why are you working this job?

He was confused. He couldn't understand that I was working this job. Well, you weren't making money at the time. Even if you had a million subs, you weren't really cracking that much money huh no I wasn't making like insane money or anything but I I but the job that I had was so good and I was learning so much about like that would help me forever and still the guy who I sat next to at that job if I have any questions about editing or or you know equipment or anything like that I call him still to this day that's great because he taught me so much so i was like i'm getting a lot from this job but as soon as i felt

like i wasn't learning anymore i left and that's when i like solely like did my own thing until i got to that point though i was like i'm gonna work this job because not only am i getting like a steady income and i don't have to like worry about whatever um but it was basically just buying myself time yeah well well but so many people don't have that understanding i think that's a good lesson to push out to the world is like sometimes the jobs are just learning jobs dude like sometimes you're not going to get paid a lot of money but it's what you're going to take from it people or or the experience it's honestly going to be way more worth your while. I mean, I did a lot of shit that I never wanted to do. As a comic, too, we do gigs for free for years,

and it's just you're in training, you're in your internship, and you just have to go through the mud in this thing to figure out the best routes to get to the last point. Most people don't want to do it. They want to skip to the end. You know what I mean? They want the cheat codes. It's like they just want to jump ship.

I can also honestly say that because when I first started my YouTube channel and then like, it was doing like, well, well to the point where I'm talking about, like, I had like 10,000 followers and I felt like, okay, I have something here. Like I should keep going with this. You can apply for Google AdSense at that time. You like apply and then they like, you wait a week and you get a thing in the mail and they tell you if you got it or not. Like now you just get it if you like have a certain amount of watch minutes or whatever. Sure. So I applied and I got approved. And then I remember when I had I got like this first thing that they sent me that I made like whatever it was like seven dollars and sixty three cents some shit and i was like damn this is

fucking cool like i'm actually like making money from doing this shit that i just like doing anyway so but as soon as that happened i got flagged for i don't even know i never got an answer and they shut it down so for two years for two years i wasn't making any money at all doing the youtube stuff but i was getting a lot of views so i was like i'm gonna continue doing this because it'll be a good look but i wasn't getting paid and i can honestly say that if i was getting paid at like 18 years old like for the views that i was getting i would have never you know i would have been i would have been like oh i'm cool with this you know. I would have never tried to get that job or tried to stay there and learn.

Because I'd be like, oh, I got this in my back pocket. But the fact that I wasn't making any money from that at first kind of made me desperate. I almost quit doing it. I was having a call with my oldest brother like, oh, I'm going to go back to school. Because I'm not going to kid myself. I think I was like 20 at the time. And I was like, I'm not going to be the kid that waits until he's 23 and then he's like oh well it didn't work out so now i'm gonna do something different sure yeah i have to make money somehow so i was

ready to quit but it ended up working out so it's a bless a blessing in disguise is this your is this your older brother that was training to be a u.s olympian is that who that was that is him yes he so people that don't know your brother your brother was going to be a skeleton skeleton is like the luge right but he is either a guy in the back that pushes the sled so no that's that's bob oh that's that's bob's lavages no no skeleton means you lay down face first right face first and you're going like 90 miles an hour down the same ice path right so you're up against the walls and you can't move because of the g-force like insane he actually told me one time he's like yo because they trained in uh lake placid which is like it's a drive from here but like he's like we would go visit him like every few whatever and he's like oh if you guys

come up you can try it but you go from like you know halfway down the track so you don't go as fast i was like are you out of your fucking mind i'm trying this you didn't do it you should have done it come on hell no dude i was i i would have done it when walk the track the fucking walls are like 12 feet high yeah up yeah and you can't and you have no control you let's do it you have is your toes like touching the ground to steer it's ridiculous it's amazing oh no no so so i said it wrong you don't lay first you lay backwards right he lays back and he uses his no that's luge skeletons head first skeletons head first and your toes right the other luge is that you're on the same kind of sled but it it's your heels that steer for you, right?

Yeah, something like that. Either way, this is all white people shit. What a white guy thing. Oh, my God. It was so white up there. This is such white people shit. That's such a dumb. It's like a Norwegian or that Nordic.

I'm going to go down the sled with ice as fast as I can down the walls. It's such a silly idea to think that that's a smart thing to do. It's so dumb and so dangerous too. You see how crazy difficult. There's another, there's another comedian that I know his brother was, I think bobsled or, or,

or luge. I don't know which one, but he was training as well. And I just remember thinking how bananas that is that, that to, to get in that position and think, because if you do fall and you hit one of those walls, you can die. Like, he could die, right?

Forget about 100%. 100% you could die. But, like, forget about even that, falling. If your arm touches the ground, you're going so fast. Mind you, you're wearing layers. So if your arm touches the wall or touches whatever you have burns like i remember he had really black burns on his arms from just touching the floor dude it's who the fuck in this time you don't think at this point like now we got like basketball and all these

like whatever can we stop doing this no bro, bro. We got to continue these traditions. Dude, the fucking, I don't even know, the ski shoot, whatever the fuck it is, where you like walk with skis to this point, shoot a gun. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What are we doing? Wait, wait. Why can't I think of the name of that? It's very funny to me. You cross country ski and then you shoot and then you crawl and then you shoot.

I love that. What are you talking about? Don't take that away. That's great. What is that? No, it's called awesome cross-country skiing you're just walking with skis that's right just take the skis off no no it's harder to walk with the skis off my friend yeah it's easier with skis no yeah it doesn't make sense it's harder to walk with them you could be going faster if you just take the skis off. No, no.

Put the skis on. You'd go faster with the skis on. If you walk, you'd sink. You'd walk, you'd sink in the snow. Oh, that's a myth. You're talking like a guy that does his ski. Yeah, it's an old Alaskan myth. Well, you know me.

I'm full of old Alaskan myths, my friend. You know me. I'm full of old Alaskan myths, my friend. Yeah. So I do want to know, I've listened to enough of your shows to now know that you are a jerk to your friends and you're mean. And I don't know why they put up with you. I don't even know why they they put up with you. Uh, I don't even know why they decided to work with you, but is it because you hold all the power? Is that why?

That's what it is. I like to be a power dynamic. Rather. They fear me. They do. I think. Right. No,

no, you don't think so. You don't think there's a weird power dynamic. I, I absolutely not. And that's why I think like, and if, if it does come off that way if it

honestly does it's because like it's you know trying to be funny it's put on yeah i know in real life it's just dude it's like the the contrast it's just so funny between my friends and everyone else in the world like right if i if i put out the one time i put out this video and i was like damn i fucking love like i was like proud of it i was like this is really good like the jokes are great like blah blah and it got really well received and i was getting all this love for it and i was actually in la at the time for my job and uh a bunch of people out there who saw me were like oh man i love the video blah blah and then i got home the next day and i'm at the gym with one of my friends he goes yo that video you put out the other day and i was

like yeah he goes yo honestly the worst fucking video you've ever put out in your life good checking you down uh letting you know what the real thing is but he was dead serious you know like there was no comedy there was no like whatever it was just like dude that i hated it like i don't know why it would do but i was, this is exactly what I need in my life. That's what you need. People to ground you. Yeah, exactly. You need friends that aren't going to bullshit you. If you had friends that were just like, Oh dude, whatever you want. Yeah, no, it's great. Like I honestly despise that, especially now at this point in my life, like the people who I'm closest to are the most critical of me. And I like seek that out. I almost hate when like now the friend the not the friends that i have because like i

mean my friends have been the same my whole life but like the people that i keep close to me that i go to for like advice or whatever um even if they were even if they agree with me off the bat they still have like questions and they still have like right you know they have whatever because they have someone who's just going to be like, yo, whatever, yeah, you should know. Well, there's a crew of very like yes-man-ish people that work in the world of the internet that fascinate me, dude. I like the Logan Paul and him and his brother, whatever. Those guys, they operate in this world of like,

everyone's in the same um understanding and they're all on the same page they all love everything everyone does and their little crew and it is fascinating to watch how they've cultivated this like this this little world that's like tiny little world of like people that always go along with everything that they're doing i can't imagine there's not one time when they fuck with their friend and their friend isn't like, Hey, don't do that. I don't want to be on camera with you hitting me with the fucking thing. I would hate that would drive me nuts. I could never be a, I never understood that world of like, how is 24 hours a day? Someone fucking with you. I would, that would fucking kill me. I couldn't do it.

I honestly think, and that's just from being a kid in the social media era because i got half and half like growing up i didn't even have a computer didn't have a cell phone until high school didn't have a laptop until college so i didn't have any of that shit um but when you grow up and as soon as you get a phone you get a phone when you're in like sixth grade now basically and you have access to all these social media platforms like the only thing you care about is the amount of followers you have because i think that's what the kids are like kind of basing the popularity off of sure of course of course so i feel like when you have that and then you find someone like jake paul who's young i think he's like 23 right now. So when he was famous,

he was probably like 19 years old when he first became a really big thing. What other 19-year-old is going to tell him shit? And they're probably afraid to say anything bad to him because they want to be along for the ride and they want this cloud of like, oh yeah, I know this kid. Well, they want the paycheck too.

I'm sure there's a lot of money being made over there i see those guys were living near my buddy's brother and they were throwing parties all the time and the cops kept getting called and it was total chaos over there but it's like people are on the payroll like there's so many people on the payroll you know they keep they want to taste gold like they don't they don't want to be removed yeah they don't want to be removed from from uh from the paychecks dude they want to keep up that which is so fucking sad because never in my life would i ever fucking do something like that even close like i mean i get like i get i get yeah but i get why those guys do it because that's all they care

about in the first place anyway. So it's kind of, they'll figure it out at some point in life. He was offering people on the internet to wrestle him. He's like, he'll wrestle a, I want to wrestle any influencer. And yeah, for like 10 grand. Yeah. What a weird, desperate call. Wrestle me.

Yeah. I don't, I don't know what that's about. Will you wrestle me? Wrestle me, Joe. Will you come wrestle me? Yeah, dude. Wrestle me for that's about. Will you wrestle me? Wrestle me, Joe. Will you come wrestle me? Yeah, dude. Wrestle me for five bucks, dude. No clothes, five bucks.

I'll wrestle you for five bucks. You and me. I'm going to oil myself up. Me too. When I'm oiled, dude, I'm hard to grab onto. Me too. Hashtag me too. I want you to wrestle me, and let's roll around.

And I want five bucks. Whoever wins gets five bucks. How about that? The viewers can vote. We'll do it on our OnlyFans. Joe Senegato, Santino, OnlyFans. We'll wrestle it up. That'll be the future for us.

Tell me what you think. Just give me a quick prediction. What do you think the next thing is going to be? Obviously, you don't know. But what would you think the next media thing is going to be? Do you have your ears on the ground? Because you've kind of created a little media empire anyway. What do you think is going to be the next thing to pop and change the game?

I don't think podcasting has reached its true potential yet. I do think that at some point the platforms like amazon and netflix will buy into that and i think the idea of just like what we're talking about youtube where sketch comedy has lost the production value and it's like let's just do this thing i think it's going to kind of be the same thing for podcasts where it's like we'll help you we'll buy you cameras set it up and we'll shoot this thing and just put it on netflix and like whatever because it works in that way as far as like you can't predict like the future of this and that things like tiktok though aren't like i don't think they you don't think it'll last i don't think it'll last because i i think it can

last but it will never be the thing you know like i don't hold it in the same regard as podcasting because there's just you can't monetize something like tiktok well you could even like you could you could but you can't bring tiktok sure you could yeah but even that even if you do that there's no real like business model about like you just make tiktoks and you make some branded ones because even with youtube it's like they're like it's just one thing in order to have a business there needs to be like foolproof like we're doing this but if you have to rely on a brand reaching out to you that to me isn't like a safe place to be. Like you need like a machine here. You're right.

Yeah. And who knows what that's going to be. And in the end, I hope we all make it out alive and we get to just keep making content for fans. And if we don't, then you and I will just, we'll be doing our OnlyFans Wrestling week to week. Boiled wrestling. Pick our outfits, pick the music that we wrestle to.

You can pick the rooms that we wrestle in. We're going to stream it on Twitch. Stream it on Twitch. We're going to start it out from doing it. We're going to do it from a Marriott courtyard out here in Bakersfield, and then we'll go from there. Does that sound good? I mean, that doesn't really sound like there's holes in that plan.

No. Well, there's two holes. Well, there's four holes, and we'll pick which ones work. Joe, before we go, look directly into the camera and say one word or one phrase to end the episode. I usually leave the room, but we end this the same way, and I want you to close the episode with either something profound or not profound at all, one word or one phrase.

Go ahead. Okay. If he doesn't do what he say he don't, then how far can he go? In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. Thank you.