Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Margaret Cho

Episode Date: January 6, 2023

Santino sits down with comedy legend Margaret Cho (and Lucia) to talk about her prolific career and all the talented hilarious people she's met along the way! #margaretcho #andrewsantino #podcast #whiskeyginger COME SEE ME ON TOUR!!! https://www.andrewsantino.com ORDER SOME MERCH!!! https://www.andrewsantinostore.com Join our Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/whiskeygingerpodcast ============================================================ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! MIZZEN + MAIN $25 OFF with Promo Code: WHISKEY https://mizzenandmain.com/whiskey SIMPLISAFE Get that house secured 20% off entire system and first month FREE https://simplisafe.com/whiskey HELLO FRESH Get 16 FREE meals PLUS FREE SHIPPING https://hellofresh.com/whiskey16 FREEZE PIPE 10% Off Your Order & FREE SHIPPING https://thefreezepipe.com Use Promo Code: WHISKEY Follow Santino on Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Whiskey Ginger Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast/ & https://twitter.com/whiskeyginger_ Whiskey Ginger Clips: http://www.youtube.com/c/WhiskeyGingerPodcastClips Produced and edited by Joe Faria IG: @itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What up, Wissi Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. If it's your first time joining the show, welcome to the show. I'm in New York, baby. I'm in Christa Stefano's palace, and I'm excited to tell you about my guest this week. It's Margaret Cho. I love Margaret Cho. Historically respected and widely loved all over the globe. She's so very funny. Please go check her out live. And next week, Tuesday, the 10th, my special comes out on Netflix. Cheeseburger on Netflix. Please watch it. Spread the word. Let everybody know. Also, Bad Friends are touring. We're touring in April and May, but right now we only have three dates up. We're doing Vancouver, Spokane, and Seattle. Go to badfriendspod.com, badfriendspod.com to get those tickets for see me and Bobby touring.

Enough rambling from me. Let's go to the episode. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You are that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and 75 dollars for the horse gingers are hell no this whiskey is excellent ginger i like gingers

ladies and gentlemen welcome back to whiskey ginger my guest today is one of my favorite people on earth i say that for all my guests but i mean it once again today it is the first time this human's been on this show and wow are we are we happy. It's Margaret Cho. Hi. So quiet. Hi. And for listeners, you won't be able to hear this. Maybe you should click over on YouTube because she's got her pup, Lucia, sitting promptly on her lap. Lucia.

A Lucia. Where does the name come from? Well, her name is Lucia Caterina, which means clear light. Clear light. And yesterday actually was St. Lucia's Day in Switzerland. What does that mean? Well, Lucia, I think she is a Catholic saint. Whenever you see somebody holding eyeballs, I believe that's Santa Lucia.

That's Santa Lucia that's Santa Lucia yeah she's like and you're of course Italian I don't know yeah but she yeah I'm very Italian it's actually ciao

it's ciao bella ciao bella ciao bella but it's I think that's what the saint is I don't know I'm not

I don't know anything about it but that's what I think it is but she's also named after Catherine Deneuve. Katerina. Oh, Katerina. Oh.

So this is kind of like a royalty pup? Is this like a fancy? She isn't. Is she from a bloodline? No, she's just from like a city shelter. Same. My dog is too. She's just from the city pound, but she's really a good girl.

A pound pup. Actually, I lie. Ours isn't from the pound. Ours is from the streets pound but she's really a good girl a pound pup actually i lie ours isn't from the pound ours is from the streets oh we got one of them street dogs oh street dogs bacon wrapped she's from my buddy's girlfriend from a long time ago uh who became a good friend of mine and she out of nowhere posted this picture of the pup and was like found this pup in a garage downtown where i get furniture made and the guy said it had puppies and the mom went somewhere to go because they got sick she got sick and he was like i need someone to take these and she took one home and then one she was like we can't foster any more animals does anybody want this dog

i was like bring that dog over oh and i even said i was like look we're gonna sleep on it we need one night to decide never left dog never left i mean it's so when once they come in they're in your house they're in they're yours it's over yeah she's not my only dog i have many cats you have a lot of cats what are we talking let me guess three three was i right yeah you're right it was right on the money that's a lot yeah three's well i mean but they're self-sufficient so it's what it's not i think three cats is like one dog yeah three cats for one dog is like three cats of responsibility yeah because they do their own shit they mind their own business you need to like take care of them but you know yeah yeah

for sure yeah like you can go out of town go on the road do shows yeah she comes with she comes with the cats gotta chill but the cats have uh a cat sitter who comes and stays and it's really it's really great that is cool well how about this i know people and i'm not going to call out someone i know, but they have a leash. They walk their cat. Do you walk your cats? Yeah. You do?

Well, I have, only one of them will accept the harness. And he's the most scared. But when he wears the harness, he looks like, again, back to Catholicismism he looks like a priest because it looks like a clerical collar because it's black and it's got a high neck and it's really um it's giving vatican vatican vibes it's given a not monsignor it's giving like deacon oh yeah it's more protestant i guess i was just gonna say that's not cat but you need to get a little swinging bell with smoke for the cat that would be funny hi hi hi hi so cute it's impossible to not play with dogs though well i probably stink like my dog because we were rolling around this morning in the yard yeah big fan of rolling around in the yard first thing in the morning that's all she wants to do it's nice we love rolling around

in the yard it's really nice it is sweet these things do i mean i talk about it um i talk about it in this special that i'm putting out is how my dog genuinely like i mean this like changed my life because i i just needed something else to like uh take away some of my anxiety energy so when i'm a little annoyed or the business is heavy-handed and i get frustrated if i just go for a walk with a dog and go get coffee and just kind of leave my phone somewhere, it definitely does. It's like my little, you know,

I don't care. What's the anxiety drug everybody takes? It's my Xanax. Yeah, dogs are my Xanax. It's a good, it's a good, she's a little white pill. She's a little white pill. She's a little white pill of a dog.

And I can't take those anymore, right? No more pills. You're my only pill. We're not having anything to drink today because you are no booze. You are sober, which is good. Yeah. For how long? This time, almost seven years.

Oh, that's a long time. Yeah. That's a really long time. But I've had varying degrees of sobriety over my long life. Did you do California sober ever where it was like? Yes. Yeah. And that's a big thing. Yes. I was green and sober. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a while. But that doesn't really work when you're doing dabs. Dabs, you get a little bit too high. Dabs are so psychedelic. 100%. Yeah. And it's just, I don't think it's wise for me to have a blowtorch, you know?

Not for drugs. And also the gravity bong, which is really strong. Yeah. Which it just pushes the smoke down into your lungs. It's like very, and the edibles nowadays. These kids today. These kids today. Off my lawn, you kids.

With their shatter and their dabs and their nails but at least you're hip with the lingo do you know what i mean like you're still in with the cool kids you know shatter that's big you know i'm i'm tincture um i i still you know uh shop at the vape store hell yeah and i'm still like i love any kind of stoner, anything. Like I wear all Bape and Champion and I'm very into the look, but I just don't, I mean, I've just have so much brain damage, but comedians love weed. Yeah, we do. We do.

You know? I like, I'm a, I'm a, I was more of a weed guy for my twenties and thirties. And now I've kind of stopped almost all of it i've stopped i still like having a couple of drinks but i just she wants to play so bad get up there wants to play so bad i think you know why she might be having uh excitement is because there was three dogs in here the other day. And they probably are all over the carpet. It was a three-dog night.

It was a three-dog night. It was a three-dog night. It was a three-dog night. Was Jeremiah a bullfrog in the three-dog night? Yeah, Jeremiah was here. He was here. He was a bullfrog and he was here. She's really going crazy.

For people that don't know, obviously they are not aware of reality then then because you've been doing comedy for a long time 40 years is it really 40 40 years isn't that crazy this year oh goodness lucia 40 years you've been doing comedy i've been doing comedy for 40 and this is it and and i'll say this i'm gonna i'm gonna kiss your ass just a little bit. You are, the word legend can sometimes feel like a little, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it sounds like when someone says they're proud of you, it's almost diminutive, but they don't mean it that way. Like legends are like, oh, legend, what am I? I'm not dead.

But you do have a great legacy in comedy. And everybody that is a stand-up knows you and respects you. Yeah. And I do think you've done so much for so long it is extremely impressive because a lot of people that fall off they go away you know or they become super famous and then they're just like they don't have to do comedy which is great too like that's kind of another arena of comedy or not that they don't have to do comedy, but they just choose to just do stadiums. They just choose to- Yeah, sometimes you choose to sell 22,000 tickets.

You know who do really well? Everybody who's ever opened for me. Let's name them. Russell Peters. He's doing okay. He's doing arenas. Yeah. Jim Gaffigan.

He's doing okay. Mike Birbiglia. He's doing, again, these are three guys that are doing okay. He's doing arenas. Yeah. Jim Gaffigan. He's doing okay. Mike Birbiglia. He's doing, again, these are three guys that are doing okay. Doing great. No, they're doing phenomenal. They're doing phenomenal. They're like the top in their game. Like, so that's kind of like.

So you have the magic opening touch. For some reason, everybody who I've ever worked with that's open for me is like Karen Kogaroff. What are you just making all-stars? What are you like a coach or something? No, I just happen to like be lucky and like get to work with people that are just really, really talented. You pick good talent.

It's obviously you have a good eye for what you think is. Or just happened, you know, like I didn't know Mike Berbiglia, but he just ended up opening. It was like, you know, uh i didn't know uh mike burbiglia but he just ended up opening it was like you know this thing of like oh and then um russell i didn't know but i worked yuck x in like the early 90s yeah and he was just like there and um so you know i got lucky there but that's to me like the most impressive the people that i um or jonathan vaness geez what are you doing i you really do have you want to work at the agency something they become so famous that

like they can't uh they can't hang out they're too busy no they're not that's not true i don't buy it they can jonathan vaness you better pick up the phone call margaret soon start hanging out all right you're not that busy. He was my hairdresser forever. Really? And yeah, he's just- Before he was on the show? Yeah.

Wow. But he's too famous now, which is great. I'm really grateful for all of their success. It's very well deserved. What's the Gaffigan story? How'd you link up with Gaffigan? We worked at the now closing Caroline's. I know, Rest in peace. I just saw that. I think they said, how many years?

It said 50 years. Am I crazy? I don't know. But it's a long time. It said online. I can't remember what it said online. But yeah, that was the first place I played in New York ever for the New York Comedy Festival. I never got to go to New York and play anything because when I was too young to even get into the clubs and then i played the new york comedy festival and that was the first venue

i ever played in new york was caroline really nice so daunting though as a young comic it was like you know it's it's time square it's like you're just a little overwhelmed by the fact that you're like this is the center of the thing this is a historic club like the cellar was less daunting for me because it's more intimate and you think the the cultural history of the cellar is intimidating yeah but it's so small that once you get in there as a comic you're like oh this is like this is where i shine there's these little beautiful rooms yeah it's like the east village and it's really it's very cool is that or is it West Village yeah West Village yeah it's West Village comedy I don't know

I don't think I've ever actually done a set at the Comedy Cellar which is weird what I know that's so weird but I've done very like

limited sets in New York only like Caroline's um did you ever do Catch a Rising when that was there yeah

or Dangerfields or not Dangerfields but I used to see Rodney Dangerfield in the Laugh Factory in a bathrobe. Like,

he was living the persona in a full bathrobe and pajamas. Was it sad? No. It was cool. It was just normal.

Because that's borderline. There was like a 50-50 split on that being like, that guy, is that guy okay? It's definitely borderline, but it's also like totally, it was totally normal and cool.

Like, you know, I used to see Milton Berle, who they would do the, this is like before the roasts were on television. They would do the roasts in the club, in Beverly Hills, the fires club right and uh god help you if you park in his parking space you better you better don't you better don't you better don't he had the most beautiful wife um he was probably in his like late 70s early 80s something like older she may have been in her 40s um she was like a

really tall she looked like jerry hall like you know um mick jagger's wife or rupert murdoch's wife oh yeah you know like um the model from the 70s and 80s thin tall thin tall blonde yeah long blonde hair but always looking down at you a little bit. Yes, with like a fur stole. I don't know if, I mean, I think it was probably real because it was the 80s or 90s. And yeah, Milton Berle cut an impressive figure, as did Bill Hicks. Yeah. I opened for Bill Hicks. You did?

In the 90s, yeah. How did that come about? He was always so late to the show. Like, you would just get assigned. You know, at that point, like, you would just get assigned as an opener. Yeah. So I didn't really know him or anything before, but you just got assigned him. And he was always so late.

He would come a second before he'd go on stage. And when you're an opener, I had no material. I had done all my material and I'm like looking at the door and I'm trying to, I have to bring him up, you know, the feature's done and I've got to go back up

and I've got to like kill 30 seconds that I don't have of material before he comes on stage and then he's suddenly there. Would you just do crowd work at that point or no? I didn't know what to do. I didn't know how to do anything.

Right. I was so scared. How old were you at this time? Like 15. What? 15 or or 16 that's when you started when you were 15 years i started when i was 14 you're nuts how do you like how do you even get into at that age because i had a comedy partner who um is also very famous sam rockwell yeah. He and I did a duo act, which is so weird to think about now, but you can see some of us on YouTube. We're on YouTube. You and Sam Rockwell doing a duo act when you're 14 and he's-

We're like 14. He's like 14. 14, 15? Yeah. We were super young. And how did you link up? We were in a comedy class in school. We had an improv teacher who would sign us up for sets at open mics at night, which I think is actually – now I look at that and I'm like, that's so ballsy to do that.

But she was very progressive. And we're still friends now, but she would sign us up. Us, Aisha Tyler was in the class. I love her. She's great. She's great. Yeah. So we would just go and do these shows at The Other Cafe, which is a very famous comedy club in San Francisco, where I would go see Paula Poundstone all the time. Yeah. I think I've heard of it. The Other cafe, yeah. Yeah, it was a big deal in the 70s. Yeah, it was the hot spot. It was the hot spot where you would see like Robin Williams on any given night or, you know, all sorts of different like the San Francisco people. And then did you play the Purple Onion ever?

I did when it reopened because it had closed, I think. It did when it reopened because it had closed, I think, it was big in the 60s. And then I think it closed for a while and then reemerged at some point in the 90s. Because it was like a jazz bar at one point. Yeah. But similar to, I guess, the Comedy Cellar, sort of like that village kind of scene where it could have been like poetry, could have been folk music. All the beatniks. All the troublemakers were there smoking their drugs, making art. But not doing rails or dabs. No, no rails or dabs.

No gravity bongs. No gravity bongs. No. If you could go back, was there any of those ingestibles with weed that you did enjoy? Or at some point you were like, I don't like any of that stuff. I like the espresso beans beans oh yeah i think they're the kiva expresso beans yeah or like the little uh chocolate covered blueberries those uh because they're a little bit more manageable um more mellow they're mellower and there's like, because sometimes you will just, the dosage is always really off because it's not, there's no regulating body.

Right. And I think the marijuana is probably, you know, the cannabinoids are naturally occurring. So you can't necessarily fully control, at least at the point when I was doing it, you couldn't fully control how much THC is actually in every batch. And how your body processes it. I think that's like the big thing that's not communicated is like, you know, I think they were saying that – I watched this thing about how like ingesting or smoking weed in a traditional way, the way your lungs kind of process it, it's a lot easier and more manageable to kind of balance the amount that's going into you based on your intake. But if I take a 20 milligram, you take a 20 milligram, the way our digestive tract works, the way our body processes those things could be remarkably different. It could go slowly through your system. It could smash me all at once.

smash me all at once so that's why i can't take edibles because i end up sitting in the hotel room staring at my socks and like not having a good night and thinking about all the wrong things super nervous about whatever like it's just the weirdest high it's not even a high it's like it's a low it is a low you're out of it's out of body i remember i ordered food in st louis i got too high. It was my buddy. I went back to the hotel room and I was like, I'm just going to go to bed. But I knew I wouldn't go to bed. So I ordered food.

And when he brought the food, I had a panic attack about him coming in the room with the food because they had like a cart. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I was like, just leave it outside. He's like, you have to sign. I was like, leave that there. I'll sign that. You can come back. I'm naked.

And as I'm saying it, I'm like, why are you scared of the food delivery service it's like the paranoia yeah it's the weird imagine he's a cop we know the paranoia of i don't even know but i think uh comics like marijuana in general mostly i think for me i was trying to fall asleep in different places. Yeah. So it was easy to fall asleep when you had weed. Without using like, I've tried Ambien before and melatonin never works when I'm on the road. And this is terrible to say, but like sometimes I would take some NyQuil just because I know

it would do the trick. But it's definitely not good for you to take NyQuil at that degree. Yeah. I mean, I think any sort of thing, though, that would help you fall asleep would be helpful. But one time I saw this comic, I'm not going to mention his name because it's so embarrassing, but he carried around

his pillow. Marc Maron. We know it's you, Marc. Don't hide from us. We know it's Marc. It's such a good idea, but I would never it's embarrassing it's like what do you like on your like it's very like junior varsity yeah the bus bus to another school yeah you're going you're going to play in the like the like the final like whatever it's just very

it's very sports team away a high high school. Yeah, away game. It's an away game. You got to tuck that in the overhead compartment and you have to ask politely if you can put it up. If someone's bagging, you're like, can I sneak my pillow up? It's just, and someone's like, are you 40? Yeah, you're like holding your pillow. It's a little weird.

It's so, but it's actually like a good idea. But I'm like, I could never. No, the embarrassment is higher than the comfort level I'll receive from the pillow. But it's actually like a good idea. But I'm like, I could never. No. The embarrassment is higher than the comfort level I'll receive from the pillow. I'll pass on the comfort. I'm so... I don't want the embarrassment. It wasn't Mark, though. Does Mark travel with a pillow?

No, but I want to put the rumor out there that Mark does. Guys, everyone at home, Mark Maron travels with a pillow and a little blankie and a little rabbit with little chewed up ears. He'd be so annoyed to hear this. And I'm going to call him at this and tell him that I heard that's what he does. In here, we pour whiskey. Hey, I'm not a fan of old, big, boxy dress shirts. My dad's golf shirts and dress shirts, I always hated that. And that's why I'm a big fan of Mizzen and Main.

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my sweet little best friend Bobby Lee and I who who had has he done a special because he really should no and we've talked about it for an endless amount of time and I gotta tell you the problem with Bobby and specials and I do mean this I think this is something that

fans can relate to as inside baseball as it can be some acts are inherently so much stronger live and they think that their product will be diluted by taping which i it does sometimes and i think he genuinely believes that taping will dilute his performance well i i'm not saying me but i think that's what he thinks i think that it you know whatever that means is really but at least it would be great to have a record of what he was doing at a certain time and then a record of what he was doing at another time because he's just so spectacular as an artist i agree but i've i begged him for years i've known him now for you know i don't know, 15 years or something.

And we became friends when I first got passed at the comedy store. And, you know, I was just a nobody trying to walk my way in. And he was always so good to me. I mean, I was always, we would always talk years ago. I was like, why don't you just throw a tape together? Someone will buy it. I mean, this is also back when, you know, YouTube wasn't a thing. No one did that.

But I was like, Comedy Central will give you a, why? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, they won't. You're wrong. You don't know what you're talking about. You're too young in the game. I was right. I knew I was right. But he kind of passed it off as you don't know what you're talking about.

But I don't know. I do understand over the years now that I've been with him for so long that I'm like, oh, yeah, maybe it's also because he just loves the live. I mean, I like Leno had an article that was written in. I think it was like GQ or something. You Google it, but it's he was they were asking, why don't you do a special right now? All your peers of your age range are doing like Romano put one back out. Seinfeld put the hits back out of the old jokes. And Leno was like, I really love live comedy.

I want you to come see me do it live. Yeah. And I don't feel the need to. So I kind of said that to Bob. I was like, maybe that's what you love is like some comics just obsessed with live.

They love live. Yeah. The tape is a weird fear, I guess. Well, it's also like the lighting is different. So then it makes the audience

react differently. Mm-hmm. So then you kind of are judging your own performance by what it's felt like before, and then it feels different. And I know that it's never going to be as good as it is sort of like when it's an unexamined kind of moment when it's very spontaneous. A lot of times we put so much effort into things and then it sort of doesn't sort of feel as immediate and electric. But I still think it would be great for him to have a record of what he's doing over certain years.

I know we should just privately film him when he's not paying attention. Yeah. I've thought about doing that. I've genuinely thought about hiring a documentary crew behind his back. That's a good idea. I know. And the good thing is he'll never hear this because he doesn't watch this show so it's like i can just say this openly and it'll never get back to him yeah but no he but i had said that to him before when him and i spoke that you were the first asian american with a special in general yeah that's an impressive that's really do you ever feel that like does that ever hit you oh yeah yeah i think it's great i mean it's really um do you ever feel that? Like, does that ever hit you? Oh, yeah, yeah. I think it's great. I mean, it's really.

It's monumental in the comedy world. Like, how many. It's great. It's crazy to me. It's really exciting. But it also, you know, now what's so exciting is there's so many fantastic Asian American comedians. Sure. Which is really, really, really special.

But you were first. I was first. And you guys better fucking remember that. That you, she was first. No, there are. They really do. They really special. But you were first. I was first. And you guys better fucking remember that. That you, she was first. No, there are. They really do. They really do. People are really very, you know, very effusive in their praise and, you know, admiration.

And so I'm really, really, really, really grateful for that. It's cool to be a pioneer of something like that in our world because it does mean something to us. Because we all, I think the one thing that I hope will continue in the world of comedy is like we do tend to have a pretty high level of respect for those that were before us. I don't know if it's always going to be that way, but I do think it was embedded

in like my generation's culture. Yeah. And it was a thing. Also because specials for us when we were young were such a fucking big deal. Like I remember watching them and taping them on VHS and watching them back were young were such a fucking big deal like i remember watching them and taping them on vhs and watching them back and that was such a thing that i don't know if

the new generation of 23 year old comics that are humming along i don't know if i don't know if that's a thing for them but i think it will yeah i'm sure it is i'm sure it is. I think that there's like some, there's a legacy tradition in comedy that we always really, I think, I guess, enjoy and respect the elder in comedy. I do anyway. And I think that's just,

that's just the way it is. You never know what these kids and their shatter. You don't know what these dab heads are up to. At the babe store. At the babe store, man. With their shatter.

But it's very like, I mean, yeah, it's impressive. I'm always really excited to see like young comics because it's just like, oh, I can see sort of traditions repeating and things like, because comedy in a way is kind of always the same. Yeah. You know, there's a sort of irreverence to it there's a sort of like revolution to it and that the feeling of it is always kind of going to be the same right well anyway i i just wanted to i wanted to say that i thought that was very impressive when i was when i talked to bob about it that i was like what what a monumental feat let's talk about who you are now after all these years. Was Lucia snoring underneath? Can you hear her? She's snoring?

She's snoring. Wait. No, she's- Now we woke her up. Now we woke her up. Now we woke her up. Now she's- What's a day in the life for Margaret Cho?

You first wake up. What's the first thing you do when you get out of bed? The first thing I do is I take her outside, and that could be really early uh the other day this is a few days ago we were outside and she was pooing and in the yard and there was a coyote right next to me it's been happening in la a lot and it was like the coyote was just standing there and i like turned to look at the coyote i'm like oh you oh really oh you think you're gonna i said oh really and then that's your response then the coyote ran away oh really coyote was right next to me like not scared no they're ruthless now they don't care at all

and looking at lucia like she's a snack which could have been 100 that's a little biscotti right there like a little delicious almond, like white chocolate dip, almond biscotti. But the coyote was just standing next to me like, oh, you're going to eat that? I'm going to, if you're not going to eat that, I'm going to eat that. Like that kind of thing of like, the coyote is like trying to come over to me. If you're not hungry, I'm starving. Yeah. I'm going to eat that dog right now.

So it was very shocking. And then, so that's usually what I do. She and I have have we have to go out to the yard together right well now just bring your gun i know you're a big gun girl you got all sorts of guns just bring your guns with you when you go out there and they do say you're supposed to get big get loud and and flail at the coyote so they'll run away because in my neighborhood i get the alerts uh twice dogs have either gotten bit or perished from coyotes. But it's usually because they're at night and the dogs are out in the yards at night

and the coyotes are able to get into their yard or whatever. Yeah. Which I think about all the time with the dog. We have a full fenced in yard. But even still, I guess they can get in. But I go out with her anyway at night and in the morning out of fear. Well, I was just outside of the fence and she was in the morning out of fear? Well, I was just outside of the fence and she was in the fence.

And then the coyote was next to me outside the fence. So the fence is actually probably scalable for the coyote. Oh yeah, they can. Yeah. Yeah, that's nothing for them. But it wasn't in there yet. And so, but I usually go out with her. So that's what I do.

The first thing I do is go out with her and then I have to feed all of the animals. Yeah. Because one of the cats has a... She's kind of bulimic, which is kind of weird. So she'll like... She has an eating disorder? She'll throw up whatever I feed her,

and it's not any sort of illness. She's just got like some weird... She was a runway cat for years. Something weird. She's a model cat. You know, that doesn't go away. She's on the catwalk. She's on the catwalk.

You know, she's just really self-conscious. So I have to like sit there with her and make sure she eats everything and then just sit and like hold her for a while. So like the feeding thing is kind of a lot. And then I clean. And then I'll sit on my VR. Oh, are you big into VR? I'm into VR. Is it Oculus? Is that the one you use?

Yeah, I use the MetaQuest. My buddy Chris bought me one and it's wild. It gives me motion sickness. Yeah, I like sitting down when I do it and I'm okay. But I've done the one where you stand up and draw the boundary. Yeah. I'm not a huge fan of standup VR.

It's hard. I want to sit down. It's hard. And then I'll sit in a game and I'm like, I cannot figure out what's going on here. I'm just going to sit here. What game do you play in there? I play, well, Beat Saber, which is just a silly fun.

I've seen that. That's a fun one. And then I play Bone Lab lab which i fucking do not understand i'm just bone lab i'm stuck in the same thing what is bone lab bone lab is like i don't even know because i'm stuck in one part and i can't get out so i'm just gonna be i don't know what it is it's never gonna happen for you i'm trying to walk up a ramp and i haven't been able to do it for like a week um that's the first thing you have to do and you're like, I'm not. I can't do it. First, you get killed.

The thing about Bone Lab is you get executed. Oh, cool. That's the first thing. And then you escape the execution and then you get into like a tunnel and then you have to run up a ramp. And that's just the beginning. And that's where I am. I just got almost lynched by this mob it's like you get you get you get in a noose this is a quentin tarantino game what it's a very like a it's a very reservoir dog uh django yeah it's a

django game unchanged it's all his movies put into one the bone lab it's really, I mean, I could never figure out why people would watch people play games. And now I realize, oh, I need to because I don't know what's going on. Like Twitch and all that stuff. Yeah. People watch so that they know, oh, that's how you get out. Do you see how hip you are? You got shatter and dabs and now you're watching video games on Twitch and you're both here. Now, I'm a Twitch streamer.

You couldn't be. You should do it. Why don't, you know what you should do? You should Twitch stream you poorly playing Bone Lab. Really? Just staying in one place and screaming about it. People watch. And it's really funny because then all of the cats

are on top of me and then her, Lucia, just so that I have like, I'm under 50 pounds of animals trying to play. That's your blanket. That's your weighted blanket. That's your weighted blanket. That's my weighted blanket is all of the animals. And yeah, so then I'm, or I'll go on the road. You're big on the road next year, right?

Come 2023. Yes. You're humming along. Yes. Well, are you, now this is interesting because you've been in the game long, you know, like was there a point when you like went to these bigger venues, like know, like, was there a point when you, like,

went to these bigger venues, like theaters, and then you went back and forth? Like, do you, or do you commit to, like, one? Do you, like, will you only play clubs or will you only play theaters?

No, I'll do anything. You don't care? I'll do anything. I mean, I'm really open to whatever it is. Sure. I love clubs and I love theaters. I mean, they're all great. And whatever I am, you know, welcome welcome to do i'm so happy to do that's nice because i well like i just made my

foray into theaters in the last couple of years and like you know sometimes theaters are daunting and you're like man it'd be nice to just run the old club vibe because it's such a different rhythm of a weekend you know and i do not to say i'm i wouldn't do any it's just sometimes you'll get into like this oh well this city wants you in this little you know cute great little theater and then this and this and you know there's moments where i tell the team and i'm like i kind of want to just go to that city and do their club because i like their club so much you know but it is once you graduate there you want it as a young comic for so long to get to bigger venues that when you do, I think sometimes you realize the smaller ones are also where some of the gold is. It's so great because it's like you're able to sort of stretch out and kind of figure things out and you have more freedom to do that.

Totally. But then you also have the check spot, which I think is hard. more freedom to do that totally but then you also have the check spot which i think is hard you know the check spot is like the 10 minutes before you're about to finish as a headliner everybody gets their bill yeah it's very tough it's weird it's awful it's almost like they should just save it to the end i've said this to a couple times i've done this where i've said we'll just do a shorter show yeah you can save it to the end so you can flip the room for the second show yeah and they hate doing it the owners of the clubs hate doing it and the managers always complain but i'm like it just makes for a better experience for me and for the audience in my opinion because the audience

doesn't want to be doing this looking down while they're what did you and then what is it they don't want to be doing that while they're really enjoying you as well so it's almost like just give it a minute just give it one minute and then it's a little tough yeah So it's almost like, just give it a minute, just give it one minute. And then it's a little tough. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. I know. Look, from an organizational standpoint, you know, whatever, but it's also just that that's always the hiccup. Yeah. The check drop is just such a bummer. And then sometimes it's like, it's like what that, that thing about, um, Steve, what Steve Martin said, like, why did you quit standup comedies Friday night late show, which I actually, I actually like Friday night late shows. I like Steve Martin said, why did you quit stand-up comedy's Friday Night Late Show?

Which I actually like Friday Night Late Show. I like late shows. I like when it gets really rowdy. Loose. And loose and crazy. There's no more fist fights. There used to be fist fights. The good old days.

When people would just break out into fights. When are you going to get into fist fights? Yeah, come on audience. When are you gonna get in this fight yeah come on audience when are you guys gonna start beating the shit out of each other again it's really um that that to me is really funny so i think um yeah so there's none of not you know there's none of that anymore but as i get older um but i think uh yeah those those nights are kind of intense well they also i also steve said I read that book, Born Standing Up, and I think the thing that he said that also impacted him was from a fame level,

he was like at some point he was talking about that it was at a show and people kept yelling out King Tut. Like King Tut, King Tut. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he was like my bits became more important than I was or something. I don't know how he worded it, but it was something to the effect of like, they weren't even there to see me. It was like they were there to see something else. And it was kind of a detriment to what he wanted to do.

It was like, well, I'm not going to just be a record player for you to hear your favorite hits. So I think he just didn't like that feeling anymore too as well, so it took over. Well, he was so famous. So famous. I mean, off of SNL and the characters that grew because of it and then becoming a movie star, this is a tough world to continue to do stand-up in. Kevin Hart can do it because Kevin does fucking arenas

and he loves that thing. I think he loves that those are hard i i've actually opened for him and it's really hard i think to have that many people you know at like you know 50 000 seat arena it's really hard yeah i mean to uh kind of go in there i mean not just as an opener but I think just for any comic. It's tough. I did a few arenas. Opened for Rogan on like a few different occasions.

And it was very nice. It was a cool experience to be able to go do that. But also, you know, you can see people in the lights of the hallways going to the bathroom and going to like concession stands and you're like yeah this is crazy it's so crazy i was doing like rock shows i toured with um cindy lauper and uh with uh like joan judd and um all and all these sorts of like big rock. Icons of rock. Yeah, rock, like the B-52s, which- Margaret Cho, come into the stage. No, they are so funny.

Yeah. But it was just so big that I was really, I had a hard time. Well, and were they outdoor venues too or no? Yeah, like Red Rocks. I can't, I don't, I can't. It was so hard. And there's no oxygen in Red Rocks.

Right. You're way up. It's so hard. Every joke, you're taking a big breath. I'm like, I gotta. But it's, you know, people who are good at that, it's a really special talent. Yeah, it's impressive. Look, it's very impressive.

You know, like I'm always blown away by you know bird just did red rocks for his special and that's incredible i mean i just i was never good at those outdoor venues yeah he that's right he did yeah he did right yeah it's it's hard yeah so daunting it's so hard yeah i don't i i don't think i've ever you know i shouldn't say never but i don't know if i'll ever get to that point even if i do if i really want that that level where it's like, you know, 50,000. I had Gabriel, I had Fluffy on here and like, you know, I was at Dodger Stadium. I was like, Dodger Stadium? How do they hear you?

And he's like, trust me, they hear you. I was like, I get it. But it's so far away, so big. Yeah. That's like Beatles level. It's fucking nuts. Of excitement. What would that be for you?

What would be like a, is there, was there ever, or have you already done a pitiful venue for you? That's like, I always wanted to play this thing and I did it. Maybe Carnegie Hall. That's sexy.

Which is cool. That's so cool. That was really good. And yeah, like Radio City Music Hall, those kinds of things. Yeah. I got kicked out of Radio City Music Hall, those kinds of things. Yeah. I got kicked out of Radio City Music Hall with another very famous person who I'm not going to say who it is.

Oh, come on. But she made a bong out of an apple. Cool. And she's so famous that I was like, we're not going to get in trouble. And we got in trouble. You got busted? We got in trouble. They locked us out of our dressing rooms.

They kicked us out of the venue, but we still had to do show so we still had to perform wait they didn't let you smoke weed in the bit in the dressing room no so we got kicked out but we still had to do the show so it was like we got kicked out before the show and it was really funny because we were just sort of like outside we had to be on the bus and then sitting and waiting to go on yeah just sitting waiting to go on we couldn't go inside the venue how weird isn't that funny wait but

but just cause they thought that was disrespectful to the venue or something I don't know there's no way people haven't smoked in there before yeah but we got kicked out and she was so famous

I was like that's fucked up they're not kicking her out it's Helen Mirren by the way for everybody that's listening it's Dame Judy Dench Dame Judy Dench was there

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Ginger. I like gingers. That's insane to get kicked out of your own fucking show. Yeah. That's bonkers. Yeah, it was really funny. And then there's that balance of like the rep is there, you're a promoter, and they're like,

look, I don't know, I can't make it. The venue's rules. It was like just this thing of, you know, we just kind of felt above the law, but we were really not. It was funny. They're going to get you. Yeah, they'll get you.

So for now, you think you've played the ones that really hit the mark for you? Is there anything in the future that you'd want to play? I would love to do Madison Square Garden. Shit. That's something that I've never done. Where are you from originally? San Francisco. Right.

So why New York is so big to you? I think just because that to me is like, you know, the pinnacle. I mean, there's definitely big places in San Francisco that I've gotten to perform. Like, you know, the Symphony Hall, Louis Davis Symphony Hall and the different, and the Opera House and the different venues there. Or the Palace of Fine Arts and stuff. You know, there's great venues there too. But, and here, probably the biggest place I've played is, I guess, the old Universal Amphitheater.

Oh, wow. That's big. Yeah, that is very cool. That's a good one. But New York just has that thing for you. I'm a Chicago kid, and I got to play at Chicago Theater last year. Oh, yeah, that's great. It was just so big for me.

It is big. Because as a kid, we would go there. Not often, but I went to go see a few things there as a kid, and I was like, that to me was probably, I don't know if there's another place that I'd, that was a big, big deal for me. It's a very big deal. Yeah, I loved it.

It's a very exciting place. It's like a really, it's a gorgeous theater. When I played there, the most exciting thing, Harold Ramis came to see me. And he was like in the meet and greet greet line and it was like a couple of years before he died and i'm such a huge fan of his you know like stripes and yeah ghostbusters and everything you know just amazing and so it was really exciting um to meet him and talk with him and he was just uh showing me a bunch of pictures and i i was just like so amazed um so i was i always love those chicago guys like him and yeah john cusack and yeah so

cool so cool isn't it cool when people come to see you sometimes that you're like they're they're a fan of you but you're a fan of them and you kind of don't feel that the fanship matches up you're like why are you seeing me yeah like what are, what are you doing here? Do you want to go home? Tell me you have somewhere to go. Like, I did a bit part on this Christopher Guest show called Family Tree. And I loved him. I've always been a Guest fan. And I don't know if this was on his doing, but just one night at the improv, I walked into the improv like, you know, a month or two after we had filmed.

And one of the door employees was like, do you know Catherine O'Hara? And I was like, what do you mean? Do I know? Do I know who she is? And the door person was like, she's here to see you, I guess. And I was like, what? Wow. Where?

And then they showed me and i was like i wanted to say hi so bad but i was so nervous to be like hey i heard you came to see me it was so weird but i but she did and then i said to the sound booth uh person i was like um just tell me if she likes it you know like tell me if you can see if she's enjoying it because i wouldn't be able to see in the dark and then when my set was done uh i went back to the other bar and then i had asked and they were like the moment you were off stage she left with the person she was with i was like oh and he was like no no they were loving it they were having such a fun time but she wanted to just kind of get in and get out so i was like it just those were that those little moments sometimes

you're like this is so cool. What a fucking cool gig. That is super cool. Well, because I think she's just, you know, top tier. She's amazing. Pretty cool. It's hard to say, but like, I think that the SCTV people are really. Top dog, man. They are.

I mean, like Eugene Levy. Yeah. Yeah. Catherine O'Hara. Everybody from that crew, Harry Shearer, like everybody is sheer like everybody is uh yeah i don't know that was incredible that was more up my youthful world of comedy i that's kind of the stuff that i saw the most you know growing up that i thought was like super wacky and fun i like the wackiness of it i guess i guess because it felt very like uh um monty Python-esque where it's just kind of wonky and goofball-y.

And just, but also super believable too. And just ridiculous. I love Andrew Martin and I love Joe Flaherty and Dave Thomas. Yeah, Dave Thomas, super, super funny. So funny. And Rick Moranis. Yeah. Of course.

You heard he got attacked, by the way? Yes. That was so sad. Who's punching Rick Moranis? What are you doing? Don't punch him. Don't punch Rick Moranis. There's so many other people to punch.

I mean, you know, it's so sad. But it's also Kids in the Hall. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So good. Who I love. That brand of comedy was so, that's kind of what spawned, you know, in my ignorant opinion, stuff like Tim and Eric and stuff like that. That kind of spawned this like new generation of that kind of free flow, really character-driven, you know, sketch stuff that I think is – not to say missing, but, you know, we could use more of – we could use more in a serious time where the world is kind of a little bit bummy.

I think more wackadoo nonsense. I wish more wonky stuff popped up. But wackadoo, like, this was like 12 years ago when I was still drinking and I was with Tim and Neil Hamburger. We were doing a show. And, you know, Tim does that stand-up comedy character? Yeah. It's not his comedy, but it is. It is, but it isn't, but it is, but it isn't.

It's really like, it's a statement on comedy, but it can really make people mad. And we were at this venue, and we were drinking, and the audience, like Tim had been in a set and there was some kind of altercation and the audience like chases up to the dressing room. And so that we were just like up there, they were going to kill us because they were also kind of pretending that they were like the kind of audience that would kind of come see a comedian like Tim's character. They were inside the bit. It was so inside of the bit.

And we were also, it was like sort of like this alcohol fueled nightmare of like comedy as satire and satire folding in on itself. Oh my God. But they were like banging on the door and um it was a a real like altercation there was like were you scared for a minute i was scared for a minute i don't know how we got out but um it was really it was so like them taking the character seriously but not it was so it was kind of like the um tim and eric sketches where the audience is like all those weird dudes from like the uh from craigslist i don't even know like

just get them off the street yeah but they're central casting they're all men yeah it's all dudes it's all dudes it's all men all weird dudes and they're all like kind of, it's all dudes. It's all dudes. It's all men. All weird dudes. And they're all like kind of in their 50s and 60s and 70s. And it's really strange. A couple of nudists are always thrown in there. Yeah, they like the people that have always wanted to be on TV but never got to. That's who gets to be on those shows. So bizarre.

Yeah, so bizarre. But in such a great way where you're like, the reactions are usually like overacted and over the top. And it is beautiful to watch how much they like get into it. You're like, you couldn't teach someone to do that. No, it's so surreal. But then that kind of thing also happens in life. Yeah, it does. It's hard to replicate that though, to be like, can you do that? If you showed like a trained actor but can you do that they'd be like i don't know

that's kind of tough you can't you can't recreate it you can't you it's hard to embody that kind of uh honest anxiousness where you know what i mean because they're like it's it looks fake sometimes that's like my favorite kind of comedy i think is like any kind of tim and eric audience focused um sketch yeah like any other christmas special sketches yeah yeah and that kind of stuff or or um or even steve brule that is really good too for your for your wine what got you what was the last moment that you got off the sauce where you're like i don't want to do it anymore were you on the road were you touring oh i was um no i was actually forced to do so by my uh friends who uh kidnapped me and forced me to go to a a birthday party but

it was actually an intervention really yeah So unfortunately it was not my choice, but it was probably better. But it was needed. So it was a fake birthday party, not for you. No, it was, and it was not my choice to go. You were like, I don't want to do this. I was in, I ended up going and then they took me to a treatment center and I stayed there. I stayed there for about a year and nine months, which I really liked being in rehab,

but then people kept dying, which is really sad. In rehab. In rehab. Because a lot of people like, you know, when you're in that situation, being in rehab is kind of like being in hospice where people are really on the last legs of life, like their last chance.

Yeah. And it's sad because it was like really young people, really successful, really beautiful, really with their entire lives ahead of them died. Jesus. As usually is it from because they relapse and they do too much? They'll do like fentanyl.

It's mostly fentanyl what the fuck is going on with fentanyl i guess it's everywhere i got out uh just in time because i would be so dead you retired before you could get get hit well because i mean i uh like to take drugs and then ask what what it what it is after remind me what this was like what is that it's already inside of me so i'm sorry just let me you know so it's not um yeah i don't i don't take drugs responsibly it's kind of fun though i'm not saying do it but also that's you're gonna do it you know i'm kind of like i'm like a real like i'm an old school partier in the um you know very very classic sense of like you know what let's i'm up for anything but the problem is is that my body isn't necessarily built

for that so it's not good i don't think anybody's is really no nobody's is but do you have any even though it's not not cool to plug it but do you have any like moments where you did that and it worked out better than you could have ever imagined? Oh, one time I had taken a break from drinking and then I went to Anna Nicole Smith's house and then she had an ice sculpture that you would pour a shot of Jaeger into the Anna Nicole Smith mouth, and then it would come out of her ice vagina. Nice. And you would drink it out of her ice vagina. Very cool. So that's probably the best.

You like my body? It's flowing into your mouth. Yeah. That's pretty cool. And she's like, drink it, chugug it like next to you in a santa outfit and it was so like uh surreal and um so funny and fun and uh and we made out you did wow and were you guys really close you and her no no no she was just fun she was was just fun. I just kind of had that experience. But that is like the most treasured experience probably of like hanging out.

Like, oh, you know. But of course, she's not with us anymore because of all this stuff. Because of too much party. That checks you down. And then you're like, all right, I can't do this. I can't do this. But I would have done it if I hadn't been kidnapped and forced to go to rehab i know it's not funny but it's also like it is funny to adult nap a friend to be like we have to do this like we have to kidnap you

we have to otherwise you wouldn't take us serious they they were right and they gave me a bottle of wine and they gave me a blunt so i got to drink the wine and smoke blunt on the way to rehab and uh yeah everybody does that the last meal like every time i watch that show intervention everybody wants their last meal they're like let me just get annihilated before the plane yeah but it's not the best thing no but it's don't feel good but i get that it's like let me get one last hoorah because it'll probably remind me while i'm going there how much i don't want to be on the shit anymore yeah i think that's almost the psychological reason for being like yeah go get high before we take you to the place because you're not going to like it any by the

time you get there you'd be bummed that you were high the whole time i never had a drug i never had really a drug thing i always liked smoking a little bit of pot and mushrooms i never really wanted to delve too deep into drugs. I come from addiction. My dad is clean now for years, but, you know, spent a high majority of my youth in the Cook County prison system for drugs. So I never really, it was always like the thing I knew I wanted to avoid, but I do like sauce. But as I get older um i just feel it so much more so i have to like temper when i drink now i use it as like a you know i

schedule a little bit more where i'm not we're because you know you know growing up in our world it's like you're at a show you have a drink you're after a show you have a drink it just becomes so customary yeah in our culture in our world and not a big deal and also we're free so during the day when chris and i my buddy who who comes with me a lot you know we're gonna go have a burger and a beer or we're gonna go do you know he loves museums it's like let's go get a glass of wine and go to a cool museum you know becomes this secondhand you kind of forget how it all adds up and yeah after months on the road your body is like buddy yeah we have so much free time too much that's the problem with um comedy is that you really don't do anything you have a secret side of you that people don't really know that

like you do with it like are you into you know people are like into gardening or i really i like kevin nealon for people that don't know, should look it up. He's an amazing artist. Yeah, he's great. And people don't know how, you know, I remember he first said he was like, I think I'm going to have an art show. And he started posting that stuff online that he painted. I was like, these are fucking amazing. Yeah, he's incredible.

Do you have a little hidden thing that you do? I am a songwriter and then I'm also a gardener and then i'm also a bird enthusiast so i have 28 bird feeders i have hundreds of plants which some of our are dying but some are really thriving none of the birds are dying though none of the birds well what's great about the birds is that you get so many different varieties here in Southern California. True. And you get to see sort of migration patterns and the birds change at the feeders. And the kind of feeders that you put out make a difference too.

So it's a, you know, that to me, I've not gone on like a bird journey where I go and- Let's do it for you this year, your bird journeying. Binoculars. I have really nice binoculars and I do look at the birds outside within binoculars. But yeah, I have, yeah. I write songs, look at birds, look at plants.

And gardening. Yep. What's your favorite bird? What are we talking? I, you know what? I have wild parrots that are outside that I hear but I can't see because every time I go to look, they sort of start to take off.

But I love – right now we have a big influx of Anna's hummingbird, which are the ruby-throated ones. Oh, yeah. Very pretty. That are so beautiful. Very pretty. So those are really, really special. So those are all over the feeders at the moment. Yeah, it's weird that there's wild um there's wild

like parrots and tropical birds that you'll see in southern california in my neighborhood there is one tree uh and i've spoken to someone it's on this guy's property that hangs over a private area um but you can see them and they're all in this tree and i don't know what kind of tree it is because i'm stupid but he was like yeah this is from one time many years ago a breeder had let these birds go and they just kind of stuck around and kept moving through culture and they survived but there was no shit there must have been 15 beautiful colored exotic birds in the tree and i was like they only stay in this tree he's like oh yeah they'll come here for the season and then they'll disappear but he's like they're there now and they're so loud like i forget when you go to a tropical place and there's exotic birds are so

fucking loud and you forget that you're like oh wow that's right this is that is this is this is like their time to shine and then they get the fuck out of town but yeah but it is cool to think that like we get because we're a fake city you know what i mean it's like we're a desert town that was built out of nothingness you will have like we have fucking mountain lions that p22 yeah i forget that we have that kind of shit oh that but they're gonna kill them they're gonna get them they're gonna get him what did he do he was a bad boy. Well, I mean, you know, it's just like, I think when there's a drought, all of those big predatory animals come out and they have to come down looking for food and water.

So. I think we should just, what we should do is protect P-22, the mountain lion of Los Angeles, of the Hollywood Hills, and feed P-22 people that get in trouble. If you're a bad citizen and we can't need you anymore, if you've done something just abhorrent, right?

You know. Then you become meat for P-22. See? Yeah. And live stream, Twitch stream it. Put it on, put it in the metaverse. Yeah, that's a good idea. Just people getting devoured by P-22.

Okay. I think we should start this. I think it's a good idea. Just people getting devoured by P22. Okay. I think we should start this. I think it's a good idea. I don't know why not. Why not? So I want to say one more thing before we go, because I know you have stuff to do. On this tour that you're doing now, when you start back up, end of January? I start, well, I'll do Largo here, actually, the beginning of January.

And then I'll go back. Oh, I'm going to do the Vancouver Just for Laughs. I'll see you there. Yeah. Me and Bobby will be there. Oh, good. We'll hang out. We're doing Just for Laughs of Vancouver, Canada.

That'll be fun. And then from there, are you just going to be bouncing around? I'll be going, yeah, all over. So what's your, is it margaretshow.com? margaretshow.com. margaretshow.com. margaretshow.com. Go see her live. Hopefully if you get a chance to see her on this tour this year.

Are you using this to put together an hour? Yes. To film? So hopefully to film. It's called Live and Live It. Live and Live It? Mm-hmm. Like that.

Yeah. Now, because of the change of what's going on in terms of like so many outlets do you care where a special goes as much as i don't know you just don't care it's like i just want to put it out yeah i would love to put it out i mean i yeah wherever it is funny because now it's changed shape so much you know like guys in my age range like everybody in their late 30s early 40s youtube became an answer for all of us. And it's impressive to see. I mean, it's not for everybody, obviously, but it is kind of cool to watch now comics

just taking control a little bit and being, well, I'm just going to have all the priority. I'll pay for it and put it out and do it your own way. Not to say the other ways. Like when this is out, I'll have a special out on Netflix January 10th, which I'm excited about. It's my first Netflix January 10th, which I'm excited about. It's my first Netflix special.

So great. I'm excited. I'm excited for the ba-dum. I want that, you know, in front of ba-dum. That's why I've always wanted the ba-dum. But either way, I'm excited to see what you put together for the hour. Go see Margaret on tour.

Go to margaretshow.com. I appreciate you being here. We end the show the same way uh with one word or one phrase from you it's either a word or a phrase it used to be a word people were like i don't know i could do a phrase so one word or one phrase you say it into that camera right there it's going to be cemented in history forever as the way we end the show so whenever you're ready one word or one phrase lu Lucia! In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey,

whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no.

This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.