Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Prof

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

Known for his explosive energy and razor-sharp lyrics, Prof is the Midwest's wild card in the rap game. Hailing from Minneapolis, he's a master of storytelling with a flair for the absurd, weaving com...edy and chaos into every verse. With a career spanning over a decade, Prof has carved out his own lane with a blend of hip-hop, R&B, and in-your-face personality that captivates crowds and defies genres. Whether he's spitting bars or dropping hooks, Prof brings a raw, unfiltered edge to every track, proving that he's not just an entertainer—he's an experience. #prof #whiskeyginger #podcast #andrewsantino =========================================== Sponsor Whiskey Ginger: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/whiskeyginger SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS BETTER HELP 10% OFF YOUR 1ST MONTH https://betterhelp.com/whiskey BILT REWARDS EARN REWARDS WITH BILT https://joinbilt.com/whiskey MOONWLKR USE PROMO CODE: WHISKEY AT CHECKOUT FOR 30% OFF YOUR ORDER https://moonwlkr.com PESTIE EXTRA 10% OFF YOUR ORDER https://pestie.com/whiskey ======================================= Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeyging... https://twitter.com/whiskeyginger_ Produced and edited by Joe Faria IG: @itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, hey there, Whiskey Ginger fans. Thank you for joining the show. I just want to tell you, I'm on tour. I'm doing a big old fancy tour. I can't wait to come see you guys all over the country. I'm in Frank, California to start. I go to Indianapolis, Charlotte, North Carolina, Waukee, Iowa, Omaha, Nebraska, Kansas City, Cleveland,
Starting point is 00:00:18 St. Louis, Grand Rapids, Detroit, New Orleans, San Antonio, my hometown, Chicago, Illinois. I can't wait to come see you guys. Durham, Atlanta, Charleston, Philly, New York, Phoenix, San Francisco, San Diego, Boston, and of course, Minneapolis is the last on that tour. Not the least, last but not the least. And I'm adding dates, I'm adding shows,
Starting point is 00:00:38 so be on the lookout. Go to andrewsantino.com for those tickets. Andrewsantino.com. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. tickets andrew santino dot com in here we call it and jimmy the and
Starting point is 00:01:01 swiss and and Oh hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Junior. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again today, it's Prof. Minnesota's Finest in the house today. Woof woof woof woof woof. Dude, thank you for being here. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Let's have a little sip of something, even though you've been day drinking way too much already. Yes. But this will sip slow. Mm-hmm. Slow. Mm. Mm-hmm slow mm-hmm mm-hmm the whole thing okay off to a good start that's fine whiskey yeah it's very good that's very good would you like some more yeah you want some more right now I'll sip the rest of it okay great uh perfect dude yeah what do you want to try pick
Starting point is 00:01:43 one this one I don't even know what it is. Yeah I have to pour it for you, that's the only way. Yeah you can't pour your own, it's illegal. It's a rabid old high gold. I am shocked by the way. Welcome to Los Angeles, California. Like it, hate it, love it? I'm excited, I don't, um, like it.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I used to hate it, I like it a little bit more. Turn around real quick, look behind you. Oh shit, wow. Look at that, right up there for you. Wow. Pull that mic a little bit closer to your beautiful face, shit. Wow. Look at that. Right up there for you. Wow. Pull that mic a little bit closer to your beautiful face. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Wow. I'm excited to be here, man. So you're liking it? You do like LA? I like you. Okay, that's good. You know, I like the company that I'm starting to keep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Look at how differently you pour a big one on that second. Well, you're a guest. You don't have to chug it. I think it's probably in the history of the the world if you consider the timing of transportation vehicles you know as cities rise and fall it's probably the worst city in the history of the world at the worst time sprawl pollution, homelessness, planning, homelessness, and just overall planning the way you just look around how big it is yeah it's bad.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And the public transit. It's probably the worst designed city in the history of the world. I don't know. I agree. It's pretty dog shit. And boy oh boy do I love calling it home. You know the one thing I like about it is everybody left. I like that everybody left.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Everyone left LA and now it doesn't feel like, don't you think it feels like calmer and slower and I feel like we're cleaned out a little bit. It's nice. I've only lived here after everyone left. Oh that's right you don't know the difference, child. McCone McCorkery, we were talking about names before we started the show and I need to bring up another thing but the prof said to me that McCully Culkin's full name was McCully McCully Culkin Culkin. He changed, McCully Culkin changed his middle name to McCully Culkin. I was like, that's bullshit. So if you want to read the full name off, it sounds like. It sounds like McCulley, McCulley, Culkin, Culkin.
Starting point is 00:03:31 McCulkin, McCulkin. No, no, McCulley, McCulley, Culkin, Culkin. Yeah. Because his name was McCulley Carson Culkin. He changed from Carson to McCulley Culkin. And he did it in 2018 after holding a vote through his website to choose a new middle name. That won the vote. He announced April 2019 the name was completed. twenty eighteen uh... after holding a vote through his website to choose a new middle name winning did that won the vote all he announced a bro two thousand nineteen
Starting point is 00:03:48 the name was a little uh... completed in legally changed it sad sad you think it's that's michael do you think that's m j that did all that stuff uh... that made him changes he he he he he got him good i don't know yeah i think it was you think you got it i think i'm gonna get out Good, I think after I think after Home Alone 2 lost in New York came out. It was all down too much. Yeah Michael just had to have it. Yeah, and he ruined that kid's whole life. You saw the the the
Starting point is 00:04:19 Documentary on it on the Michael Jackson. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man when the details came out and I was like Oh that multiple people said he likes to like bend like yeah Yeah, I was like absolutely. He's you know, yes the word he did for sure first of all the fact that everybody was like What's so abnormal about having sleepovers with kids? Oh god, and you're like what? What what's normal? What's what could be normal about it? And the fact that the parents were just like oh what could be normal about it. And the fact that the parents were just like, oh yeah, go sleep with your hero. Go sleep in the same bed as your hero.
Starting point is 00:04:49 These parents should be locked up. That's distorted. They should be locked up for the rest of their lives. That's crazy. That's the parents' fault, yeah. You know, whatever. Anyway, on a good news tip, you're in LA, you're shooting. Yeah, haven't killed anyone yet. Well, bad aim. Aim right, baby Yeah, but you said that what I found interesting before we started rolling was
Starting point is 00:05:10 Clips not in full videos anymore. The music video is dead Do you really think forever? It'll never come back? I'm gonna still do him I'm gonna waste my money on him because I love him so much Yeah, and I love to spend time on like art and something that no one's ever seen And I think it's what the thing'm, you know, best at. It's kind of one of my calling cards. Live show, music video looks. Your live show is phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:05:31 We went and saw the live show in Durham or Raleigh. That was random as hell, bro. You guys really uplifted me, man. I was in the middle of nowhere. I was on a stretch of places I've never been like three weeks in on a tour. And then you just hit me up like, what's up? I'm like, what? I was like, we're coming through where? Yeah. Where we Yeah. We were in Durham and we went to Raleigh.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah we took an uber down to Raleigh. That lady had a heart attack. Yeah a woman had a heart attack at your show. She didn't die though. Before the show. It was a heart attack or a seizure? Did you know? Oh was it a seizure? I don't remember. There was a lot of commotion. A lot of commotion and the girl said she does this all the time which was maybe the funniest. Her friend goes she does this all the time which was maybe the funniest her friend She does this all the time. She's fine Had to been yeah, but she was you know They've certainly they weren't sober the one girl that they had obviously gone out for some drinks before the show But the fact the girl was smoking right she was so like dismissive to the paramedics. She was smoking. She's like she's fine Like we need to check her vitals
Starting point is 00:06:22 Following her tongue. Yeah, take her tongue out of her bestophagus. I was like, is that your best friend? That's like the worst. She was so over it. She was like, oh God, I want to see the show. Showing off again, just taking up all the attention. Yeah, and she's prettier, bitch. If you have epilepsy, maybe don't go to a show. Don't go to your show.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Almost all fucking shows. Come to my show. If you have epilepsy, come to my show. Come to his show. If you have Apulepsy, come to my show. Yeah, come to his show. I need it. I need more fans. Now, but you know what? You're a visual light, you're a visual artist.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So the light, there's a lot of lighting changes, sound, smoke, there's all sorts of stuff. We're going crazy. If you can't handle that, yeah, that's, you gotta walk away. Yeah. What's it, do you, what, when you were a kid, do you remember the most like memorable hip hop show
Starting point is 00:07:02 that you went to as a kid? I wasn't going to many, bro. You didn't go to hip hop shows when you were a kid? No? I wasn't going to many. You didn't go to hip-hop shows when you were a kid? No, I didn't have any money. I was really broke. You didn't sneak in and do the evil shit? You know, a friend of mine took me to see B.C. Boys and A Tribe Called Quest at the Target Center. Those guys together? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Target Center is where the Wolves play? Yeah. Go Wolves. Not anymore. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. Well, go to bed. Wolves, go to bed. I'm proud of you. Get some rest. Get a whole season of rest. Go to a whole off season of rest. Yeah, I'm proud of them. We've had a hard time. The worst sports team in the history of all sports.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Is it really? No, it can't be. The most losingest team of all time? It can't be the Wolves. No, no chance. No way, look it up. What's the most losingest sports team of all time? There's got to be something else that's way in the middle of there. Well, maybe not after this year, but before I mean, yes, It's us. No way, look it up. What's the most losing a sports team of all time? There's gotta be something else that's way in the middle of there. Well, maybe not after this year, but before, I mean, yes, it's us. That pits pain. You could have had a good run. You'll come back.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Oh yeah, for sure. So Tribe and Beastie at Target Center. Yeah, and that was like my first show. Floor or seats? I think like, you know, a couple seats. Yeah, a couple seats. You know, I was too young to get on the floor. I was really young.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And I never went to rap shows. I was on a corner. I was battling people and getting into fights and shit. Really? You were not into them? I was really good. You were not a fan? No, I was just busy being a fucking numbskull.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny to think, though. It's like, I guess the assumption is that every performance artist is a fan, but the varying levels. But you kind of were just like, no, I'm it. It's me. I'm him.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I was, I was, no, we were just drinking. We were poor. And, you know, like, especially in high school days, like I wasn't going out to see any shows. Like I was throwing shows. I was like, let me try this shit right away. So no, no, uh, what are we talking? How poor are we talking? Are we talking poor, poor?
Starting point is 00:08:44 I mean, yeah, I was on, I was on government assistance for a long time. Oh, gov cheese. Section 8, housing and stuff like that, you know. I was in the hood, potthorn, you know. It was real. I was just on, um, um, the way back with Ryan Sickler. Love. And- It's my boy. We were going through all these pictures that I never thought I had. I thought I had no pictures of my childhood because, uh, my house burned down.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I thought it was gone. How'd it burn down? And then I just re- my dad burned my house down. Go on. Dad, you can't skip over my dad burned my house down. Let me tell you about photos. If you really want to get to like, my childhood is like super like mad toxic.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Well, give me a piece of it, Queen. Oh my God. Go off. Well, my fucking dad, he was like a preacher and like he was extremely charismatic, but he was also bipolar, so he'd come home from church and beat my ass. And then one day we had an argument, and he was chasing me around the table,
Starting point is 00:09:36 and I was like, fuck that, I'm 15, I understand that you're fucking crazy, even though this was before diagnosis, he was undiagnosed, you know what I mean? And then I ran away from home and then immediately he went to the basement and started my house on fire. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And burned that motherfucker down. You had nobody in it though. There was the animals were in that bitch. No! I lost my iguana, yeah. The dog was in that bitch. Okay, that one I'm concerned. And he jumped out the window.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Really? Yeah. Gangster dog. Yeah, and so then I came back to, you know, I just ran away cause I was hot. He jumped out the window. Really? Yeah. Gangster dog. Yeah. And so then I came back to, you know, I just ran away because I was hot. I went to my girlfriend's house who was just a friend. I wasn't young, but anyways, in the hood. And I was like, man, I was calling back.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm going to come back for dinner, whatever, what's going on. It was just a busy signal because it was a landline. You know what I'm saying? Beep, beep. I'm like, beep, beep, beep. I'm like, all right, well, like alright. Well. Just take me home whatever you know and then They dropped me off on the block, and there's just
Starting point is 00:10:31 tons of fire trucks fire engines. I'm talking like block was locked off And at this time pot of horn in the 90s bitch. I was like oh hell Yeah, someone got shot on my block again. I was like I'm gonna see a dead body like I was totally about that shit like oh Like is it my neighbor? You know I'm saying my neighbor was selling crack You know what I mean? Like and so I'm like what's going on? Damn? And so I started oh, this is close to my house Oh, this is real close and I started running and I was like, oh shit this smoke and I It was crazy. No, it was complete lawlessness They were running up and down there was fire bursting out of the windows.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And I went in my front lawn like, ah, and there were just firemen running around like not kicking me out. It was just, I was on my front lawn like I was in one of those fucking Vietnam movies. Like, ah! Ah! And yeah, man, it was, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:21 we'd go for a long time on all this shit. Yeah, I have a crazy childhood Is he alive? No, he uh, he's dead. He ended it. No, he tried to commit suicide We found him in a bathtub up north in Duluth With his wrist slit there was blood on the ceiling, but he survived that someone walked in and he was like a nurse so he knew how to slit his wrists and but at that time I wasn't talking to him because Because you set your house on fire Yeah, you know what I'm not gonna talk to you for a little while yeah, but he's not with us anymore
Starting point is 00:11:50 So yeah, no, I never talked to him and then I was becoming like a man by the time I was like 18 19 I Needed like a car and shit. I was trying to get a job and there was one time where he Gave me his car like an old Cutlass Sierra or something You know just a little hoopty or whatever and I was just time where he gave me his car ago cutlass sierra or something who who fear whatever and i was a site i think you you know thank yous i go cable you know i love you both of my forever and then he ended up dying before i was able to like uh... hash it out with them you know it
Starting point is 00:12:18 or at least fight the motherfucker yeah you know i'm saying so i didn't have so i had so much anger after that shit income unresolved. The motherfucker just died of a heart attack on a stationary bike at the YMCA. No. Damn, that's awful. Yeah, he was stubborn as fuck.
Starting point is 00:12:37 He was stubborn as fuck. He was athletic as hell. He was stubborn as hell and he was having a heart attack and he was just like, fuck this, I'm gonna pedal through it. Sorry, bro. To have a heart attack, you're like, dad! I got a two-tenths of a mile left! Just to bucket out is crazy and moms is alive. Your mom is alive. My mom is the only reason I'm
Starting point is 00:12:59 trying to become a better person and things are okay in my life. She's a saint. See, that's good. You gotta have one of two isn't bad. Very good, yeah yeah. Sometimes people have two of two and they're both bad so at least you got one of two. Well you know my dad was amazing and I did spend like half like half the time with him. He would flip and he'd go crazy but he was you know manic. I don't know what the fuck it was. He was high, he was low. When he was low he snapped but a lot of times he was high. He was like the greatest, most charismatic, he was twice as smart as I am. Yeah. He was quick on the draw and he like ran a congregation. He was the fucking man. He was, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:35 very smart, brilliant, demons, just always wrestling in his head, trying to find religion, sketching in all these books and shit, like non-stop thinking. Probably needed to get out of his head a little bit more, you know? Yeah, but still, you leveled out just fine. Yeah. I mean, you're lucky. And then I got this matching tattoo. You hear about this story?
Starting point is 00:13:54 Slit wrist, talking about how... Well, you posted on your Instagram. I think I hit you up, because you accidentally cut it on a thing. Where were you? Yeah, I was in Atlanta. I spent the night in the Atlanta fucking Grady Trauma Unit downtown Atlanta over a Saturday night. Because they thought you tried to cut your wrist? Yeah, but I was like, it's an accident.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah, and they were like, sure it is, man. Yeah, no, but then my doctors and surgeons were fans. They were like, oh my God, it's Prof. Like, dude, I'm such a fan. And I skipped the line and they like hooked me up. And then I could hear him like playing my music back In the rooms and talk to each other And then people were dying and screaming one guy came in hitting head with the bat died right?
Starting point is 00:14:32 Like I was in the hallway because the rooms were filled up you hear that kids You got to be famous if you're gonna get hit in the head with the bat you want to survive you got to be famous Okay, that's the only way so I think it's interesting that I have like a matching You know cuz he slit his wrists. Where- what was this on? It was a- it was on a bus. On my wrist. I was trying to change the shower head. And the fucking thing- I- I- I probably have a lawsuit if I really wanted. Like, it was leaking so I tried to screw it in and it- it failed. Not at the like the thread, but like the actual metal failed and it- and it just went- Like, and it was- I saved the shower head. it's sharper than a fucking razor and it's filled with
Starting point is 00:15:09 blood and it didn't it didn't feel like anything just went and it went super fine mist of blood everywhere and then I and then I looked at it and my dog it was like wide open pure pure, pure, no blood. All of the tendons, you know all these things? All these things. All the little tendons and the ropes and everything like that. Like I just went like this, I just went. Immediately.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And I was like. No. You know what I'm saying? Like it was all silent, you know what I'm saying in there? And I was like, nah. Were you home alone? No, I was on the bus. I was on the tour bus. Oh my god, that's right even worse. And usually I shower alone because I'm like the first one out and I'm just dripping in sweat and I just do that
Starting point is 00:15:52 myself while people load out. Right. But the homie Wonka who's here was in there and Cody was in there. Wonka, I need to go to the hospital. Well, bro, I Well, at first I was in denial I go nah any of the hospital mobile i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i came in I'm not taking my hand off and then I go yeah it's going down yeah so I fucking I don't know how I got the door open I must have kicked it open bow completely naked I don't give fuck I look down the hall of the of the bus and they go like boom so they're turning their heads you know they're having might be having a drink or just having a conversation I'm just sitting there naked and this isn't one of those times where I'm like, should I call 911?
Starting point is 00:16:45 I don't know how to get all this trouble or whatever. I'm like, bitch, I'm like, call 911. I slipped the hell out of my wrist. Like, let's go, let's go. And then they're just like this. Look at my dick. Look back at me. Stop looking at my dick.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah, yeah, look back up at me. They're like, and I repeat that shit. And the funny thing is like. Did you tourniquet it before you went? Did you tie it off to something or no? Yeah? We ended up getting into that but the funny part was I go call 9-1-1 and then wonka gets up it instead of calling 9-1-1 he leaves and runs down the block back into the venue to find our tour manager To call 9-1-1. Oh, it is like two or three lost minutes. Yeah And so then my other homie was like trying to like do a tourniquet on my shit and I'm
Starting point is 00:17:27 like cut down here. He's like trying to take my whole arm. I'm like, no, no, no, no. Like I don't want you to take my arm. I want to keep my elbow, you know what I'm saying? Like just take a little bit lower, whatever. And yeah, I didn't want to take anything off and I was holding it as hard as I could. And you know, it went like your life depended on it.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Like how crazy the adrenaline was going in my hand as I could and you know, it went like your life depended on it, like how crazy the adrenaline was going and my hand was turning purple and my arm was shaking 10, 15 minutes, called 911, they were like, so let's take a look at it, like take your hand off. And they were on speaker phone, I was like, bitch, fuck no, like I know what I saw, like there's like no fucking way.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Like this isn't a nick. I wanna lose my hand, I don't wanna lose my life, like take my hand, like that's what I was doing. I'm like, I don't care about my hand anymore. It was like getting yeah And then yeah, I ended up doing some damage I didn't slit the artery but there's sheaths Over the artery. Yeah, and I split the sheath open but the artery Stayed intact. So that's the surgeons were coming over to me all night like look at you motherfucker. Damn. You're the luckiest
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, cuz I do that out you could have bled out easy easy easy easy. Yeah, by the way lawsuit Lawsuit call you a lawyer. Yeah, who's the man who makes a showerhead mowing? We're coming after you mowing You think you're gonna get off easy mowing? Anybody got time for that, though. Nah, but let me handle it. Let me sue for you. Okay. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I remember we were at a party in college at my best friend's school. I was at his school partying, and I was fucking around with a friend of ours, and we were all drunk having fun, and I picked up this chick and we're goofing around like we're just fucking around you know and we're drunk. Did you have a permission to pick her up? Yeah yeah it wasn't like we were fucking
Starting point is 00:19:11 around like we're all having fun and we fell she's laughing I think I was trying to like either she was trying to get on my shoulders or something we were drunk yeah and we fell together and she hit the side of her head on a glass on a on a corner of a glass table and we all kind of popped up and I hit I hit real hard because she was I was below her yeah and I was like damn fuck like I got a little fucked up and you know you bounce up real fast and then we turned I was like and it her ear was split in like half I mean you could have just it was like and all of us we're all just like it's it's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:19:46 She looked up here and was like, oh my God. I mean it was like a clean break. It was like right through the middle of the stuff. She's fine, thank God, but I was, I mean, getting fucked up, fucking around though. Easiest way for that shit to go wrong. And you don't even realize, you're like, I had no idea how severe it was,
Starting point is 00:20:02 because I was like, oh, it's just, you know, it's a little cut, it looked like a little cut at first. Then she was. Because I was like, oh, it's just, you know, it's a little cut. It looked like a little cut at first. Then she like separated, I was like, ew, shit, my bad, so sorry, so sorry. No, but you know, that stuff doesn't freak me out, like the blood or the cuts or all that shit that doesn't freak me out.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And every time I go, either get blood drawn or any of that stuff, as I've gotten older now, when I look down at it, it does give me the creeps. It never used to. But now I'm like, I don't like that for some reason. Like even when I get an IV, I'm like, I don't like this. I don't know what I don't like about this. No, your veins are supposed to stay closed.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah, yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, you're in my body. Yeah, that's very sensitive. And sometimes they miss my vein. By the way, look at that. Can you see that? Great vascularity, whatever they fucking call it. by the way, look at that, can you see that? Great uh, vascularity. Great vascularity, bro. Whatever they fucking call it. I was pale, just when you're see-through. Yeah, oh yeah, that's what it is. Easy to hit me. Easy to hit me when I'm see-through. Damn, do you work out?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Not anymore, dude, not ever, uh... I think you- I think you finished. No, I just- no, I'm done. Yeah, I hit the peak. I worked out too much, you know. I worked out so much that the gyms will call me, bro, we miss you. Yeah. I know you completed it, but please come, I can't, I'm busy. I'm busy, I'm in the streets. I'm almost completed, man. You're pretty close, you're pretty close. I just gotta work on my calves and I'll be done. Yeah, you do have, you have the skinniest bird legs, bro. You have cute little bird legs. I've been working on my legs. But you're also six what?
Starting point is 00:21:22 I'm gonna dunk again. Yeah. How old are you now? I'm 40. It's not working on my legs. But you're also six what? Three? I'm gonna dunk again. Yeah. How old are you now? I'm 40. It's not happening. It is. Once you start, over 35 it's over. I know. Over 35 you can't. Last time I dunked I was about, oh no yeah that was maybe 35. I was gonna say maybe. It's on camera, it's on YouTube, I'm dunking on YouTube. I got photos. I used to be to yeah my shit you could duck too. Oh my yo Hey, but I was nasty when I was I was nasty when I was a kid I could get up I was like the only white kid that could jump the wake me too motherfucking one time Damn, okay I'm only 6'1 but I get it. We showed pictures on the other show didn't we have me dunking in college
Starting point is 00:22:01 I had me at Arizona State my buddy Colin Miller had pictures of me dunking. Damn, yoking. I was like the only dude of our group that could dunk that wasn't six, five. Like if we had dudes that were six, five, six, six that were hoopers, yeah, it's not impressive. When a six, one white dude dunks, everybody's like, oh shit!
Starting point is 00:22:17 Like it gets people's attention. When I was in like early 20s, I was throwing down alley oops and shit. It was amazing. Yeah, I miss those days. I was flying, I was skinny. Again, past 30 for me actually was like... You watch me. In my stories every once in a while I'm working on a... it's called dunk or die. It's what I'm doing. I'm gonna dunk or I'm gonna kill myself.
Starting point is 00:22:33 One hand though. Two hands doesn't happen anymore. I don't think I'm gonna dunk. I think it's probably 40% chance. Probably won't happen. If I can get it volleyball, you know what volleyball Yeah, you know tennis ball you can clear Then then I'll be happy, but I want to dunk a basketball again I Mean two three years ago. I couldn't even walk downstairs without pain. I had knee surgeries back surgeries You're talking about like falling with that woman. Yeah, I spent ten years doing that just just fucking slamming women through tables you know what I'm saying well you were a semi pro wrestler for a long time and that's what people need to know that was what I was known for just slamming girls through the tables
Starting point is 00:23:14 yeah well why did you have double you had knee surgery again we talked about back surgery but what was the knees from I don't know just getting older no I bro I thought I was gonna be professional snowboarder. I've gotten fights every fucking weekend. I was jumping off garages. Oh, you know like You were reckless. I would be like this party's lame as fuck What do y'all want to do and they'd be like we're gonna follow you and I'm like, let's go outside Without any and every the whole fucking party will follow me. I'm be like, what's up? What you know, like what do we want to? And I would be doing some wild shit.
Starting point is 00:23:45 That was my shit. And the back surgery, what was it on? On my 27th birthday, I fought a man, jumped off a roof. I did a bunch of shit on my 27th birthday. I don't know exactly what did it, but I woke up the next morning tingling down both legs. So you had some kind of fracture or something? My disc. Oh oh your disc. Yeah
Starting point is 00:24:07 Shit, yeah, so yeah blue blew my back out. No, did you feel better? No, yeah, it's something I got to deal with for forever like travel sucks Like I can't see I can't sit down for more than three hours or something like that. So really then I get a little Yeah, you know it is what it is, but I work out non-stop And like I'm flexible as ever. I'm strong as ever. Yeah, it's just it's I think it's something that's gonna Be just be there. We really are 40 and white aren't we yeah? 40 and white dude come see us. I'm Duncan is here in here We pour this episode of whiskey ginger is brought to you by a better help 40 and white, dude. Come see us. No, I'm dunking his ear, man. In here, we pour whiskey.
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Starting point is 00:27:43 You got, look, where you're from and the people you associated with growing up, you knew people that were in the streets, that were reputable street gang members. Yeah. And you battled one and it ended poorly for you. Tell me the story. It's the homie, Lad, you know who you are.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It's great. I used to go to dive bars. Now I haven't been out in a long time. I don't like to go out in Minneapolis. Why, because you get recognized? Yeah. It's just people corner me and shit, and then it just turns into like some meet and greet,
Starting point is 00:28:17 and it's just stressful as fuck. So it's not like a threat, like you're feeling like someone's going to try some dumb shit on you. Oh, no one would fucking try me. Hell no. OK. All right, I one would fucking try me. Hell no, okay Alright, I like it But you just don't want all my best friends that I would go to a bar out with I've spent a decade of reputation getting into bar fights with like
Starting point is 00:28:35 Scotchy Albert fucking McLean all them like Roz like no Albert Albert is he good You haven't met Albert. Maybe not and I don't think so. Yeah, yeah. But I feel like he'd be good at fighting. Dark Shark. With a name like that. No, Scotch, he's the biggest. He's the, he's the, he's the, he's the 6'6 light skinned dude. All that light skin anger bubbling up. Mm-hmm, yes. Lots to prove, yeah. But where, where, where we going with this? Oh, you going out? Oh yeah, so. Vlad. Yeah, we were talking about this back there and we were talking about this back there
Starting point is 00:29:11 We were at the rail station. It's something else now with the rail station on Southside and I'm there I really like to have like the OG I'm not gonna say any affiliates. I'm just gonna say you don't need to but the OGs on the streets You know and I love seeing them call them up like man. We're here like what's up? and I'm just sitting here with the with the homies and lads around and lad is a i mean i think you know she's in a june he's he's him he's respected yes yes he's reputable him on the block and i just i would my just light up on a simple alovar he treats me so well i
Starting point is 00:29:39 just you know some of my was that the mobile game which kicking it were getting drunk and he's like come on manless was battle and i'm like a lot look at him. I'm like you sure like in the bar in the bar. Yeah. Yeah This is a while ago. Maybe yeah, it's a while ago, but I'm like, oh hell I'm not one you really want to here's an exit You really want to battle again? Cuz you know what I'm gonna do like him, you know, I have a reputation to like battling and shit like, you know And so he's like, yeah, just let's try it. Let's get right into it, you know, I have a reputation too, like battling and shit, like, you know. And so he's like, yeah, just let's try it.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Let's get right into it, you know? And I'm like, you first. Yeah, please. You know, and that's, that's a, so he's like, you know, just some fucking grade school rhyme, some elementary shit. And then I just step right in. I'm like, all right, little bitch. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:21 I don't know exactly any, like I, it was pretty, it was pretty foggy. Yeah. You know, I don't remember any like dope know exactly any, like it was pretty foggy. You know, I don't remember any like dope lines, but I had the whole circle being like, oh, because no one ever speaks to him that way. But I know him well enough and I'm like, are you ready for this? He said, yeah, let's go, you know. And so I just laid into him and I'm stepping up to him in his face like, and I don't, you know, he ain't used to that. But he was like, he was smiling, he was laughing, and I'm battling
Starting point is 00:30:48 with him and then all of a sudden just like a fist glancing blow, you know, it's not a knockout blow, I'm not like shook, but I'm like, they were trying, they missed a little bit and they were trying as hard as they can, like a red streak, or like my ear is red probably, like they tried to hit me as hard as they could. What's your instinct? You're like, who hit me? Who do you think hit you? What's your first thought when you're like, you know, who the fuck? That has happened to me so many times. I've been sucker punched in those circles. In those circles like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Who sucker punched me this time? I don't know. I'm like, oh, someone hit me. That's it. I'm not thinking like, let me, the power of deduction right I'm saying I'm like I'm like I'm fucking up a fucking a real shooter in the hood Like I'm not I'm not really thinking clearly and I don't know what's going on, right? And I look over and it's his It's his uh, it's his it's his wifey and um, no, it's not lad. It's Chris. It's Chris It's Chris cuz I saw him on the playground the other day Yeah, two like two months ago. I saw him. I'm like, bro. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:31:50 And I haven't seen him in years. What do you mean with like his kid out in the playground? Yeah, and his wife and I'm like, I'm like, I haven't seen you in a minute. She goes she's laughing She's like, yeah. So anyway, she she'd you know Try trying to knock me out. She's never heard anyone speak to a man like that. And she tried to knock you out. Yeah, fists, fists. But no signal, it's not like he was looking around mad. He was having fun.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah, but the circle was going, oh, oh! She probably went in there and I was just like, in his face, you know. That is your wife, by the way. If it was your girlfriend at the time, that becomes your wife. If she tries to knock out the dude that you're battling, that must be marriage material.
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's how you really fall in love. So I'm on the playground and they're still together and I'm like, man, I'm just, good, genuine emotions towards him. You meet their kid and you're like, you know your mom. And then he just scooped her up and he was like, man, and she was kicking, she did not try to stop whooping my ass.
Starting point is 00:32:36 He was trying to stop her, whatever, and she was just coming, coming, and he found out, oh, she's not gonna try and stop killing this dude. So he just flung over his shoulder, we were right by the front door, he's like, all right, my bad, prof, like, oh, she's not gonna try and kill stop killing this dude. So he just flung his old over his shoulder We are right by the front door. He's like, I'm a bad prof like She laid her man getting in the feet kicking out the door like this Just a good old South Side. I've never been
Starting point is 00:32:54 Never been hit by a woman, but man, what a fun. Like that's a moment that you're like, look, this is great I got this that's gotta be the last time a woman's ever hit you or the first in the last No, the first was in Ramsey International Fine Arts Center I was a just a table of girls man I was this I was always the class clown just had a lot of sharp tongue fast jokes, and I said something to him Just I don't know what it was Maybe I don't know what it was you're just talking shit. Yeah, yeah, and they were throwing something at me You know and I said talk to him about them them and they were all on the same page, man
Starting point is 00:33:26 And they... Well you got jumped by a group of chicks Yeah, I got it. Yeah, it's about... man, it could have been five to ten black girls Stomping me on the ground like... Really? Yeah. I didn't want to like... What did you say? I wish I could have remembered that shit. You don't remember? I remember being like HA! Gotcha! Gotcha bitch! And then that whole table just stood up and yeah I wish I could have remembered that shit. You don't remember? I remember being like, Ha! Gotcha! Gotcha, bitch! And then that whole table just stood up and yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And like I didn't think we were fighting, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to hit no girl, you know? So I just curled up like this. And I do remember them stomping on my head. Like, oh damn, they're all stomping me. So that was the first time and that's my first and last. There's probably a lot of shit in the middle. But getting stomped out by a group of girls
Starting point is 00:34:09 is actually another point of pride, by the way. Yeah, it makes you who you are. Yeah, you're more solid now than ever. Yeah. What's something I wanna tell you about, for people that don't know, by the way, our relationship was found through your music, which I love, and that's why we came and saw you live.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And the thing that's interesting about you is, I don't know how to say this the right way, but you really are a performer's performer, right? Like some people get on stage, especially in the world of hip hop, and they just kind of do their thing. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with it. But truly dude, your show was so fucking fun
Starting point is 00:34:48 You let McCone's bitch ass get on stage fuck you crowd surf No, they were those stages too far away. It was too far away I wanted to but then everyone you were a bitch about it Yeah, you're a bitch about shook your head at me on stay. Well. They probably didn't want you on stage I said I was I was just shaking my head at you in general. Yeah, that's it about if you're crowd surfing. That's just them being disappointed in you. I was looking at you like who the fuck is this? You guys were like yeah, jump. We'll nod our heads when it's good to go. I look back and then everyone just shook their heads. Oh, sometimes there's like little fights or like some people are paying attention. Or there's something going on. Yeah. It didn't look like the crowd that would hold me up. Well, what is it? I saw
Starting point is 00:35:24 something, I just saw something that someone some girl crowd-surfed and and died like some girl jumped in the crowd and they dropped her ass that's fucking lit and I was like yeah I mean go out with the bang but where was that at she she there was like a and her parents are trying to sue or something what did it say? What is it? Crowdsurfed and died. Maybe it wasn't crowdsurfed. Maybe it was... Maybe it was stage... Maybe she was stage diving? What is it? Are you laughing?
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'm seeing a bunch of memes that said, 34 dead after Lizzo attempts to crowdsurf. Mm. Just seeing memes. I don't think this is real. By the way, Lizzo, shout out to Lizzo for watching herself on South Park. Did you see that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And she... She kind of was like, giving it the respect it deserved, which I thought was... It was great. Fellow Minnesota. She could have been... But the whole bit was South Park was like... In my understanding, I found it really her reply pretty ironic. It was.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Because they were like, Yeah. She doesn't give a fuck now, and now these are the consequences to not giving a fuck. And then her reply was like, Ha! But I'm that bitch that don't give a fuck and I was like damn This is I'm just having my head going around in circles pretty subversive actually kind of like a joke Damn, I was joke of the joke is the joke I like stood still for like three minutes Yeah, had to shake myself out of it. Well the opposite version of that though is she sees someone criticizing her and then
Starting point is 00:36:42 Starts a war online with people being like, you guys are fucking, you know, fat phobic. But you know what I mean? Like that could have been the other side of it. So at least this one was more, hey man, this is like comedy satire, clearly. Well, it's South Park, you know. I know, but they've been able to get away with stuff that if we all say it, we're not animated. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Like they get more mad at you when you're not animated. It's legendary though, it's iconic. It's a you're not in there though it's iconic it's a badge of honor for a lot of people just a hundred percent to be to be referenced by it you know like has anybody has anybody talk shit about you that you respect that you kind of like publicly nah what the shit out of them never gonna
Starting point is 00:37:16 happen like if somebody put you in a song I've been wait I would I your bag battle rap days and shit I'm like I don't I don't really like drama no more Yeah, you know like I'm still kind of interested to see if it will come around like it would be a lot of fun Yeah, like the Kendrick and Drake shit was kind of so much fun. It was like the most fun We've had in hip-hop and so long. It was just so like enticing It's so good for the bit for the for the business of it all because it got so many people interested like my dad
Starting point is 00:37:43 Was like what's going on with that Drake guy? What's going on? He's in a thing with some guy? I was like, this is amazing. The fact that you even know that is incredible. I mean, he never listened to any of the shit. He would never pay enough attention. But he knows that his name is all over the media.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And it's, I don't know, it does something good for the hum of it all. I didn't see it coming, man. To tell you the truth, towards the end, I'm like, after the fifth or sixth response, like sixth song, sixth, you know you know Walker kept on coming we were on the road at the time and then you know warming up for these shows he keep on coming with his laptop like oh something's the breath fresh fresh in and I remember being like I don't really care no more like yeah I got old like these two dudes still bitching at each other like damn like you know but I was
Starting point is 00:38:22 wrong cuz it's that one that one that last one that well the last one was that one beat Drake with that shit yeah it was disgusting I would not see like Drake be kind of like oh then he went silent for a while I'm like did this dude just lose if I ever get in the rap beef I'm gonna call the other motherfucker a pedophile right away like you're pedophile pedophile pedophile that's it that's it by the way that song we talked about this one time. Do you remember this?
Starting point is 00:38:49 We talked about this, the history of that Delilah song? That it was, oh God, this is gonna make me so mad. Because there was something about it. It was written about some woman in high school or something like that. And he told her, I wish I knew the story of this could you find that? It says the song was written by time after meeting Delilah like a like a runner Renzo a nationally ranked American Steeple chase deep country runner. Yeah, yeah friend around 2002 Higgins stated
Starting point is 00:39:17 I thought she was the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen told her I have a song about you already Yeah, right. I the whole the whole story I don't remember but he wrote this song about this girl and I'm wrong but I think he told her I'm gonna write a song about you, wrote the song and then 20 years later got crazy, not 20 years but a decade later, got famous and that chick heard that shit on the radio and she's like holy fuck that was that dude wrote that shit about me because at the time they weren't, he wasn't, he was just a small band they were like a nobody and he was like I'm writing a fucking song about you
Starting point is 00:39:46 Like I didn't did the song go out and take ten years to hit no I don't think he I don't think they recorded the song till a decade later Do you know I mean like he met it'd be like meeting this girl in high school and then Starting to become an artist and then years later being like I might use that song that I wrote you know what I mean Like did you have you ever had anything that you've written? Where's from like that another time like that? Yeah, absolutely a lot of my shit is from the past Yeah, like I have I have a song that's like I perform live called heaven and That's not even like that's just me imagining that I fucked up really bad
Starting point is 00:40:16 And you know like I'm losing my relationships and stuff right a lot of it's just Imaginary shit a lot of stuff is from the past Some stuff from the future. Do you ever write a song that seems like it's just imaginary shit. A lot of stuff is from the past. Some stuff's from the future. Do you ever write a song that seems like it's about you, but it's about, like, you know, a best friend or someone else? Yeah, I do that shit. That's their eyes, but it's you telling it, and everybody buys it. Yeah, the different perspectives. I've told this on this show before, but it always makes me laugh that...
Starting point is 00:40:38 Do you remember Ben Harper? You know the artist Ben Harper? Do you know this guy? Yes. Burn One Down, you know that song? I'm gonna... It was like a stoner college kid anthem. Yeah, okay, okay. But whatever, but I got to know him and he's a really nice dude and then one day I asked him, I said, you don't... Smoke weed. You don't drink or smoke weed or anything. He's like, no, no, no, no. I was like, that's one of the most famous songs. Oh, I'm gonna burn one... Okay, I got you now. Yeah, and he was like, no, no,
Starting point is 00:41:01 that's about one of my best friends. But I told it as if it was me and I thought That the amount of fucking potheads at his shows are like what you don't burn like no smoking in the shows no smoking Yeah, guys, please don't smoke. Yeah, but it became such an iconic song for him unbeknownst like many artists a lot of people will say like yeah, that song was more popular like Kings of Leon yeah that song was more pop like Kings of Leon notably became that sex on fire song which is most certainly not their favorite song you know what I mean and that just happens where they're like yeah people love that song but I don't like do you play a song that you don't really love as much but the crowd likes
Starting point is 00:41:38 it more than you like it there was a song way back in the day that I don't even want to mention but I don't say I fucking will whatever yeah go ahead no it was back when I was doing mixtapes over other people's beats. That's how old I am. Yeah. And one song popped me off more than ever and that's the first thing that kind of lifted me up and thought I could make money off this shit and for like years that's all people wanted to hear and I just don't play it anymore. Did you know that? Yeah I knew it. When you made it you knew. It was my favorite. I was like this is my hit. It was my personal favorite.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Well, that's good, though. At least it was something you liked and not like... Sometimes we pop from things and something comes, like, you know... People cross their eyes and yell at me at the airport, I'm-bam-bam! They do that to me constantly. I'll be ordering food and some guy's like, BABY BOM! And I'm like, just a panini, a turkey panini to go. Yeah. It happens all the time, which is fine. It's just the thing you'd least expect sometimes.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So at least if you knew it. I don't fuck around and make music for other people. There's not a fucking, one song I've ever made in my entire life was I like, oh, what do you think they'll think of this? All my songs are for me. And I think that's how it should be. Some people it's not.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah, but that's your style. But for me that's important to me. You can tell when you see you live, which I highly recommend. If you get a chance to see him live, you can tell that you really fucking give a shit. I'm touring this year, so regardless of when this comes out, I'll probably be something out. It'll be in a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:42:57 This will be out. Yeah. So go see. How many cities are you doing? I'm starting with, by the time this comes out, I might already be out with Yellow Wolf. Those shows are already sold out. I mean, they're fucking out.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Are you guys good friends? I don't even need to promote. Are you close with Yellow Wolf? I used to be, I came up, well, no. I never was close to him. I used to hang out with him and chill. My career kind of started in Atlanta and we brushed shoulders there.
Starting point is 00:43:22 He was hitting some music videos of mine. We did songs together, you know what I'm saying? But I haven't seen him in a minute. Right. I didn't know if you guys were close. Sometimes it's like you, you know, two things that bump that you're like, we're cool, but we don't really talk or whatever. Nah, we've always been cool and cordial.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Scallywags. I think we're both like gross and white and we rap, but he's more like country and I'm more like blues, you you know I'm saying like if if if we're both appropriate and ass motherfuckers like you know I'm saying he's a little bit on the countryside I'm a little bit on the R&B or jazz. Which version of appropriation is more offensive? Oh man, I don't know. That's interesting. Probably me. Yeah, it's you. Yeah, you're closer to it.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But I mean you're both gross and white was actually true. Gross and white should be the name of the tour is fucking dope. What is the name of the tour? We're not really touring together. We're just like crossing streams. Doing shows. It should be crossing streams. Crossing streams is good.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Cause I'm on my own tour called the gallery tour and this whole art thing. Cause I paint and I'm selling my paintings and I'm doing live performances in front of my paintings and I'm selling these prints. It's complicated as fuck, but it makes a lot of money. Hell yeah. Ehhhh!
Starting point is 00:44:27 Forty and White! Crossing streams, coming to a theater near you. Buy a print. Are you selling also, you're selling just the prints? Are you actually selling the OG, the original? I'm selling the prints. I haven't sold the OG originals, so that's gonna have to be some sort of like,
Starting point is 00:44:40 I don't even wanna let go of them because they're up in my house and I love them. Okay, but one of them, one of them at the end of the tour, you have to sell and donate all the money to charity and then everything levels out in the world. You have to. That's not funny at all, but that's like the best thing, I fuck with that.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yeah, you have to. I love that shit. The world has to get leveled out at some point. I love that shit. Yeah. And I'm like starting to get money where I'm like, dude, I think I've had enough. Like I needed like charity, like I have a calling to fucking this
Starting point is 00:45:07 This is no bullshit to like I'm not gonna laugh and cheers. Maybe I will after this Yeah, I Want to do that shit. I love Minneapolis. We fucking burned down and you know Quiet philanthropy loud philanthropy, whatever the fuck it is like I'm fucking with it. Yeah, I think it's a good move I think it helps. I think it helps you more than it helps even the thing that you're doing. I like to do a lot of it, but it's so funny, it's like if you talk about it, I'm always like, does it devalue it if you chat about it? And then I'm like, sometimes. But then I'm like, or does that raise awareness to what you're doing? It's such a fucked up,
Starting point is 00:45:42 like I'll do a little bit of both. It depends. I like to do small stuff a lot. Tiny stuff I think matters in a way that turns me on a little bit. Where I'm like... Did you give him a slip of a dollar bill every once in a while? Let me tell you something, the amount of money I've given that fucking piece of shit is disgusting. Is it disgusting how much money I paid you? Yeah. And how much money I've gotten you through other jobs? Yeah. Thank you sir. Thank you. I like that man. I like that. I think you got to keep doing good in the community. It helps out the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Like it, you know, this is a lame story. I don't care. But last night the server, we went out for a business dinner with some people that we're working with now and they were very nice and they took care of the bill and the server was so cool and she was so nice and she kind of was just, I don't know, her rhythm was great. Do you know what I'm saying? Sometimes when you're like, she's putting up with our shit, she's very amicable of everyone's requests, and no one's being rude, but she just was flying with whatever
Starting point is 00:46:31 and something about it. You know, I broke, I just gave her a little bit, something extra on the way out, because I thought that'll be a nice thing for her night. Because I'm sure she got a good tip on the bill. And I was like, this will be just one more little thing that maybe will transfer over her energy into something good when she gets home, or the next day for her friends.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And you know, hey, I got broken off last night a little bit, and then I get to blah. There's two types of people when they start getting money, man. Either you get more greedy or you start to realize, oh, this is great, and you feel some sort of responsibility. Now I can help people. Now I can do things. I can do the thing with everyone else. Yeah, you're right though, it isn't extreme.
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's one or the other. I've never, you don't really meet someone in the middle. You're either super fucking greedy, or you're like, oh, I think I wanna try to like, give people jobs and help out my friends and do the, it's one or the other. You'll never see me in a Ferrari. Well, I bought you a, do you wanna get in the Ferrari?
Starting point is 00:47:21 We bought you a Ferrari, man. A new car! Look under your seat! Actually, I know this sounds disgusting to say, but my friend, I have a family friend who owns a car company. They have exotic cars. And he'll let me drive a car whenever I want. If he's like, hey, do you want to drive it? Yeah. And he's given me all these like super fancy dope cars to drive and Even like Ferraris you will drive it and go yeah, it's super fucking dope, but also It's a fucking car car still got a steering wheel and 700,000 I need to stop at a red light right and you sometimes if you hear it if you hear like you know when you hit
Starting point is 00:48:01 A bump and if you hear it if you hear it you're like this is a fucking this ain't made of fucking yeah This is not an invincible made of gold and I like this sounds like a every car I've ever been it it sounds like a regular ass car And it kind of gives you perspective when you get in those you think they're gonna be infallible like it'd be perfect and everything is It's like wrapped in fucking gold and platinum, and it's not then you then you get in, you hit a bump and it goes, ah, and you're like, what the fuck, dude? I thought, I was depressed when I bought, like I moved out the hood because of those riots were crazy and I was getting into fights, I was on acid.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I was fighting in my alley with people who- You were fighting on acid? Yeah, just people trying to steal my shit in the alley and my dogs barking, you know what I'm saying? I got a newborn kid and I'm just like ready to lose my life and I'm, you know, I'm spinning on acid and you know what I'm saying? That there's no and I'm just like ready to lose my life and I'm you know I'm spinning on acid and you know I'm saying that there's no the third precinct is burned down and I'm like, you know My house is almost started on fire and those you know We had to leave in the middle of night because our house was smoking and the house besides me was on fire
Starting point is 00:48:55 And so I'm like, alright, you know I've successful career. I don't want to move out the hood because I love the Diversity and in Minneapolis is a, they say it's a liberal, Minnesota's liberal and we always vote liberal, but they've done a very good job at being racist and red lining. And if you go to, you know, the north side on the black, like you, it's it's not like Atlanta where there's like all colors or you know, like Atlanta's, they've done a very good job at stomping on minorities. Like if you get into the suburbs and the money in Minneapolis you start moving out. There's no diversity, right? I never wanted to leave. I want you know, I want my family to be around this whatever it got too dangerous
Starting point is 00:49:36 I'm like, all right, whatever so we don't even move far away The house ain't even the shit, but it's like a new, you know, still in the city, you know, still, you know, close as I can't, you know, and I remember like, you just moved. I remember thinking, oh, looking at the Zillow being like, look at these pictures. Oh my God, fantasized over it for so long. And I was just depressed. I moved in for the first couple months. I was like, depressed. Yeah. I was like, this didn't do it no it's not it's not what the fuck this is not it materialistic shit is not it and then that's kind of like terrifying because wherever you are there you are you still got to be there you are dude yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah your brain
Starting point is 00:50:22 you go there you are right you know you You still gotta sit in your shit and be like, oh damn, oh I have to work on myself because I felt shitty. Like, you know, I eventually moved into it and got comfortable in it and shit like that. But it was eye opening. Well you bring your shit with you no matter where you go, which I think is a, that is very,
Starting point is 00:50:41 no matter where you progress in your life. Like he just had a birthday a birthday couple two days ago turn 20 Five yep, which is crazy and And I think his life has changed so much. I know we're being very truly philosophical which I like but His life has changed so much comedy aside. I know that he's not the same kid I met a year and a half ago because his responsibility level went up his head size It's much bigger than a nine and a half. What size fitted hat are you in a fucking new era?
Starting point is 00:51:11 What do you like a nine? Well, you can't put I mean that thing is insane, you know when you have you know snapbacks he's on the last single snapback I gave him a hat one time. He's like it doesn't fit But no he's but I've seen it through his eye, which is funny being our age. And then I've seen him, you know, get a lot of things he thought he really wanted. Now his happiness is leveled depending on
Starting point is 00:51:36 a lot of other shit in life, but it is wild to watch him get a lot more money and jobs and work. It's exactly what he wanted. And him a lot of times telling me, I'm really burnt out and I don't know if I really wanna do it. And I'm like, see, this is, yeah, man. It's fucking, it's great.
Starting point is 00:51:51 It's with great pressure and responsibility is stress. And that inevitably is going to make you less happy. For sure. Touring. Pressure and stress is tough. Touring, I've never been more sad than touring. On tour. 10 minutes before a show. Right, when you're on stage is the best time in the fucking world. It's like, I can't, I was trying to explain this to them, I said, they said,
Starting point is 00:52:13 what do you love and hate about comedy? This guy that was, I was with this past weekend, I said, I love doing it. Just, it is the fucking greatest feeling on planet Earth and I hate everything else around it. I hate everything, the travel and the thing and the business and the bullshit and the... But that moment, it's unbeatable. But yeah, you get fucking... You're sitting in a hotel again alone and without your family and your friends and your things.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Touring is isolating as fuck, man. It's super hard. I'm stuck in my bus and I'm hearing everybody around. There's party down the line around the block and shit And I'm like trying to take a nap like I like to do before my show at a certain time And I'm just in a bunk by myself every night just trying to go to sleep and I hear people I'm like, I'm like stuck in a booth In the coffin
Starting point is 00:53:00 You know what I mean? Who sleeps in the back? You don't sleep in the back? So I've been touring in a bandwagon. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Poor man's bus. Oh, the poor man's bus, yeah. That's the last, I just finished the last tour of my bandwagon, so I'm full size back
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Starting point is 00:56:27 Ginger. I like gingers. We did that. Bobby gave me the back. So I think that'll help. Because these bandwagons have no suspension, bro. They're a box truck. You feel everything, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I'm a light sleeper. And I'm cycling in and off of sleeping pills and fucking booze and whiskey. Get off of those sleeping pills. Those motherfuckers are gonna kill you. No, yeah, I do ones that make you sleepy but aren't addictive and it's the shit. I can just drop them or whatever. What are they called?
Starting point is 00:56:51 They're light as fuck. I need to know. It's light as hell. And a lot of times I, they don't work, but I can drop them. What are they called? Do you know what they're called? Not off the top of my head, but I can show you. You gotta let me know. Yeah, I can show you.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I tried a lot of stuff. I come back home and I can go, I can... Oh, dude, because I'm come back home And I can go I can oh dude cuz I'm buzzing I will never want it I know they're addictive and sleeping is a big stress of mine, so I don't want to do those like I don't know What class those are on but my doctor was like these are some other classes I don't think you want to go you know I'm like yeah like what's the one I can't think of what's the one that puts you? To sleep that knocks you the fuck out ambient ambient. Yep. That's that's a dick thing you know have you done it before? No, thanks dude. They're great. don't think so. Dude, they're great. They're fucking great. They are
Starting point is 00:57:28 great. You feel exactly how you want to feel to get tired. You know when you're like, you know when you're traveling and touring and the sleepy, the good sleepy, heavy weighted blanket like tired? Yeah, that's how you feel on that shit. Although some people sleepwalk and they do wild ass shit. But I
Starting point is 00:57:44 didn't have any trouble, but I knew I liked it too much and I thought, I will do this, I will, I gotta get away from this stuff. Because I always just want them all the time. Because they're so fucking convenient. Yeah and then you can't sleep when you're off of them. That's what I hear so, yeah. I don't know where we're at but yeah, I think being on a bus with suspension and all that in my room, a door. Moving up. And you showered on the bus. We never showered on the bus. never showered on the bus nobody showered in the bus so then you need a Showered at the venue day room venues we always show in the venue, but some like some venues don't have some
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, no some don't have showers, but you definitely have to fucking you got to bring all your supplies Got to bring sandals because there some of them were fucking Some of them the showers were clearly where they dumped out all of their like the mop slop You know like that's where the everything on the ground yeah, and so even with where they dumped out all of their, like the mop slop. You know, like that's where the... Throw up and everything on the ground. Yeah. And so even with sandals, there was times with sandals I was like, God, this is fucking
Starting point is 00:58:32 gross, dude. Yo, okay, people don't know that. We really don't, like... No, we don't know what he talks about. I just want to do a tour and being, instead of being like, whoa, look at these sold out shows and all the glamour shit, I'd be like, I'll be raiding like showers or something. Yeah, look at the shower head. Look at this dump. Look at where I'm shitting today. Right. Every day you wake up you don't know where you're gonna shit and these
Starting point is 00:58:48 venues have horrible fucking toilet paper. The most famous best venues in the world, they have the worst fucking one ply. It's a computer paper bro it hurts so much. It is the worst. We would buy, I would buy toilet paper and paper towel and bring it in there with me because I know sometimes they wouldn't even have it. That's a good idea. Sometimes they wouldn't have it. I would keep it in one of the cabinets, or in one of the dump bunks, and then I'd bring that in.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Dunk bunk? Dump bunk, a dump bunk. Oh, a dump, we call it a junk bunk. We call it a dump bunk. Just because that was where all of our bullshend suitcases. But I'd keep it up there and bring it in, because half of the time they would run out of stuff. And then one time we did laundry, this is so stupid.
Starting point is 00:59:24 We did laundry, and they have a washer and dryer for all of the, and most venues they don't say shit. And the one guy was like, hey, you know, it's, what was it, they tried to charge us. Oh, hell no. It was like, yeah, dude, I was like, what the fuck? This costs you nothing, I'm doing a load of laundry, we're doing socks and underwear.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You want some money on my pockets, bitch? Run your pockets. He legitimately was like, hey, we're gonna have to bill you guys for the laundry and Jesse was like is it cool if I do fucking laundry fuck that guy that's crazy The fact that he was like snooping downstairs like you guys doing laundry again? It's like dude get the fuck out of here. Hey who's doing laundry down here? It was like a Sesame Street character. You guys doing laundry down here? Get the fuck out of here man
Starting point is 01:00:03 This is like the small moments that you get on the road like that where you're like, hey man, I just want clean socks and underwear. Hey man, I just want a quick shower and wash my face. Because we've been sitting on a fucking bus. Glamorous. Yeah, yeah. It is like the opposite. It's fucking you're at the top, you're at the bottom. I know it's so quick. You're on stage, and then you're showering with a four-foot nozzle and you have to like bend down to get your head wet and shit. Yes. It's so funny. The switch is heavy. How many dates are you gonna do this year? And then you're showering with a four foot nozzle and you have to like bend down to get your head wet and shit So funny the switch is heavy. How many dates you gonna do this year? Do you know?
Starting point is 01:00:34 You're going into like a big big tour. No, I'm doing like a two or three week That's up right now and I'm announcing another three week and then you're gonna make a new album I've been made a new album done. I mean kind of I'm just I'm what I'm doing right now Is I mean I got a lot of songs done But with open verses, so I'm really swinging for the fences and trying to get like huge cameos Yeah, yeah, what are we like who is the can you say no do you want to say? Come on. I don't think I should I don't think I should okay, okay? How about give me one give me one that you've asked that You really wanted to and it didn't work out. Have you had that already?
Starting point is 01:01:08 It still might work out. I'll tell you what I'll offer here. Well you know what would be really fun? He could say it and then we could beep it in the edit and let the fans guess. Oh, like I'm trusting you? 100%. We'll do it, we'll beep it.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You can also cover your mouth. You can cover your mouth, that way we'll know the audio, that way we'll be able to read your lips. Wow, that's a good one. Passed on three songs, but was like, damn, these are the shit. But didn't say, I don't want to fuck with you. I want to fuck with you. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:01:41 That's huge. But I was like, yeah. And then also I just DM'd. Oh, really? Cause, cause, say it, say it. I don't, if I, if I, nah, I don't know. Cause he's, he did a deep dive on me and is like, dude, this dude is the shit.
Starting point is 01:02:02 And very interested. Yes. Well, he would do that, right? Do you know, you know his history? That's his thing. Yeah. That's what he does. Yeah, there's a bunch of others like, so what I'm doing,
Starting point is 01:02:11 like I've been on billboard, top of billboard, two albums in a row, and I'm like, yo, let's, let's, Hit me. Let's swing for the fans. Come on, baby. You know what I'm saying? So we're just waiting, that shit takes forever. You know, sometimes they're like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:02:21 I'm kind of interested, but then they're on tour, then they're doing whatever, you know how it is, like. How many times does it work where you send someone? One song and they say yes right away does that happen often or no is usually like mmm I don't know if I like this. I don't know if I like this Kevin Gates banged that shit out he used to he sent it to him, and he was like you got it Yeah, I mean the management there was some back and forth there, but I mean it wasn't like do you got another track? That I it just there the verse came came back and he just fucking killed it.
Starting point is 01:02:45 He's like, really, really? Yeah, I was like, damn, really, really? That dude is fucking great. I love that. Hey yo, you need to get him on here. His interviews are incredible. Yeah, he's so, dude, he is, what I like about him is the same thing I like about you,
Starting point is 01:02:59 is you are you. He is definitely him. There's no mistake. There's no like, you know, there's no facade to how he feels about stuff. No, he ain't trying to act a certain way. Doesn't give a shit. And doesn't care that other people wouldn't like,
Starting point is 01:03:13 you know what I mean? Like there's a lot of politicking now where people are like, well, I don't want to upset anybody, but he doesn't give a fuck that he's like, that's how I feel. Why do I give a shit about that you don't like it? Like, you know how I feel does that?
Starting point is 01:03:22 And I might be wrong. We've talked about him a lot. It's Vince Staples. I don't know him, I like him, and I'm always like, I feel like every time I hear him, he says exactly what he wants to say. And he doesn't give a shit if you don't like the way he thinks about stuff, which I like. You do the same shit though, you're very much that way.
Starting point is 01:03:38 After we talked after your show, and I saw your performance and who you are and the way you work, and I was like, oh this is very much It's very you I'm doing my own shit. Yeah, you're not copyable the whole the whole fucking industry You know people ask me like what's it like to be in the industry? I'm like, I don't fucking know I'm making music. I'm just doing prof. I don't know the industry. I'm doing my own shit. I'm in the problem in the prof business I have no fucking clue what y'all doing over there What it's like to sign your own shit like I'm doing my shit. And the labeling and all that bullshit and signing deals and all that, that out of sight,
Starting point is 01:04:07 out of mind for you. That's like you just, you just don't, the business part of it exists, but it's not in your funnel. That man over there, Mike Campbell. Yeah. Get the fuck outta here. Fuck outta here. Fuck outta here.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I trust him with everything. You know, we go over shit, I make a decision with him and then you know we sign the shit, and then I don't talk you know That's quite check in once a year and say well. I was where we are What's everything looking like boom boom? I'm like yeah, of course solid as fuck. I trust him with my life You know I'm saying good once you find people like that in your circle. You got to keep them really tight He he'll know what the music industry is but like he'll tell me like You know we just did this and this and we signed a distribution deal with blah blah blah And like I don't remember those names and and we're going to meetings with other important people and I'm like
Starting point is 01:04:54 And so who do you got over here? And I'm like, oh and they're like, oh my god That's that's fucking Paul Rosenberg or fucking whoever I'm like, yeah I don't know you You know what I'm saying? Like the fucking, in 2020 when I got, they tried to cancel me, my old record label dropped me. Everybody was like, like, call me up. Like, what's up, man? What you wanna do? I'm like, we'll take you.
Starting point is 01:05:17 You know? And what was your response? No, no, I'm good. Well, we did. We did, we were like, Mike, what's the best in here? And here we sat down and we were like, we just cherry picked anybody we wanna use, we did. We did. We were like, Mike, what's the best in here and here? We sat down and we were like, we just cherry-picked anybody we want to use, whatever service, and we're doing it all ourselves. But we're using you for this. A la carte.
Starting point is 01:05:31 This is just a la carte. Everything we wanted and our team is fucking killing it now. And now you're on our Diddy's label, which I thought was very controversial, but you had to do what you had to do. I'm kind of... You're a bad boy. I wish. I'm kind of upset I didn't get fucked. Isn't that. I'm kind of you're a bad boy. I wish I'm kind of upset. I didn't get fucked is that like You think that's crazy he named his label bad boy They got you dude you set yourself up for ultimate fucking failure. They're never gonna catch that guy by the way He's gonna be in one of those a non
Starting point is 01:05:59 What are those the extradition countries? You know where they I heard he's a fed. I don't know I'm not up on it So I don't know what he's gone. He's gone right then ever they didn't catch him. Isn't that funny? You would know you will posting Walkers got he got a post Walker Walker. He's up on the tee like he's all type shit He's like yo you hear this and this I don't know man. I fit my favorite part about Wonka by the way Is how much he I think he was wearing? I'm like, I don't know man. My favorite part about Wonka by the way, I think he was wearing a superhero shirt at your show last time. What's his favorite, do you know what his favorite superhero is?
Starting point is 01:06:34 He was talking about it pretty heavily. No. He's into that shit though. He likes that kind of stuff. He likes weird wrestling. He likes, he's all over the place. Yeah, wrestling shit. He loves a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:06:41 He loves music. He's like a nerd. He's active. But like a cool nerd. He's active all over the place. Yeah, he's like very into things, very into very specific shit. Pop culture. And would tell you everything about it.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Entertainment, yeah. And I would know none of it. Yeah. I'm very bad with that. Somebody said that to me last night. I said like, I have a hard time remembering, I know the face of a guy. I couldn't remember John Hamm. That's me. But I didn't remember his name, I know the face of a guy. I couldn't remember John Hamm.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That's me. But I didn't remember his name. I know faces really well. I know who that is. I don't even know music. Like, Reasonable Doubt, I don't fucking know when that came out or when, you know, when people are like, oh, are you a historian?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Or da da da? 1996, yeah, 96. I'm like, I don't know what song of mine, what record it's on. Like, I don't got space for that shit because I'm doing I'm doing a lot of other things, you know, there's a lot of things I know about and memorizing and compartmentalizing and you know data and alphabetical order shit like now you're too busy for that I don't know music history
Starting point is 01:07:38 but I could tell you you play a song and I could be like, oh, I Know why he said this next line cuz bow he needs this feeling and I could sing along to all types of shit. But I don't know what record came out first. You're busy making art. And your art is wonderful. And I want everybody on here, by the way, to go either get an album, go to a live show. I would say go to a live show is probably, to me,
Starting point is 01:08:02 the most important thing in our business. Go to a live show. If he's near you, go see is probably, to me, the most important thing in our business. Go to a live show. If he's near you, go see the boy. Go see the kid in public. Speaking of what, what were you gonna say? Pop culture, I'm looking at that poster behind you about the bear. See that bear?
Starting point is 01:08:14 Oh yeah, yeah, this, yeah. This was, do you know, this is, well, you wouldn't know what that is. That was my first, it was hung behind me in a 30 by 40 foot tapestry for my first stand-up special that was on Showtime. And that is all the Chicago sports teams. That's a bear, a cubby bear for the Cubs.
Starting point is 01:08:39 He's wearing Jordans for the Bulls, blackhawks, and he's wearing white socks. Okay, I get it, but I don't care about that. That's not what I was talking about. I really want to know your take on something. Okay. Give it to me. The women, the girls. The girls in San Antonio will be big. Who's saying?
Starting point is 01:08:56 Barkley. They got some big ass girls in San Antonio. What? The main what? Man versus bear. Would you, would you, the girls who, who you seen the interviews going on speaking to women would you be would you rather be stuck on a island? With a bear or a man have you seen this no is this a tree every single one just on the streets It's like a phenomenon right now, and I'm sure everybody goes a bear they all say a bear
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah, I know that's because of this is this is yeah Yeah, I know that's because of this is this is yeah There's a lot of talk behind that and I think that the question is just set up like in a playful way That is just begging for a woman to say we don't need man. Give me a bear. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like Honestly, we know the truth if you want a little desert island. Yeah, and there was a fucking cage right here. It was like, OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH And you're like, all right, we got this. We're going to lift this up.
Starting point is 01:09:51 He'll be out. Grizzly bear. And then on the side of that, there's like, I'm Andrew. I'm Andrew. This is because women are disillusioned by fucking Disney. Bitch for real. What Disney did with, what's it called?
Starting point is 01:10:04 I talked about this with my wife yesterday. Uh, Beauty and the Beast. This is because every woman thinks they could tame a fucking horrific creature like this beast into like, there's this sweet man inside of there, I can fix him. That thing will eat you. That will kill you
Starting point is 01:10:20 and eat you and maim you in the pieces. Let's say you're in the zoo. There's a man sitting here and you're in the bear fucking cage. You're in the bear territory. Yeah. Do you want, okay. Yeah. There's a man behind you could lift it up
Starting point is 01:10:33 and there's Andrew Santino. Hey. Or here's the polar bear. It's a bit- Stand your ass right there and tell me that like. No, this is a good bit for them to play this game of like, the we don't need men thing. By the way,
Starting point is 01:10:49 it would be just as annoying if a guy was like, we don't need women. That's what's so funny is like, you would call that sexist, but like when the girls do it, it's like, it's a funny bit. But if a guy was like, no, women are fucking trash, we don't need bitches, they'd be like, this is a misogynistic piece of shit! And you're like, no dude, of course we need women, this is bananas. And you don't need bitches. They'd be like, this is a misogynistic piece of shit. And you're like, no, dude, of course we need women. This is bananas. And you don't need
Starting point is 01:11:08 men thing. It's such a stupid, it's such an annoying play. Dude, have you ever seen a cock in a vagina, bro? Pull it up! They work. Jamie, pull it up! Bro, they're really good together. Yeah, it's just, that's a silly, the internet does this thing where it goes Also, I see this a lot. I've seen this more is People say like and this is heartbreaking, but they'll go up to a guy or they'll go up to a girl
Starting point is 01:11:32 And they'll go what are you one out of ten and the girl will be like I think I'm a seven and then they'll go What do you think about this guy? Have you seen this have you seen this before and then she'll go he's like a four and, he's like a four. And then they'll go to that guy. And then he'll go, she's like a ten. And they'll go, what do you think you are? And the guy's like, I don't know, I'm like a two or something like that. And it's always diminutive to the dude. It's always like, you're fucking trash.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And even the most, and I don't care, even the most like, mid-ass looking girl, like fucking, bluff, what? She's like, I think I'm like a nine or a ten. And then she'll rank like a regular ass comparable dude. She like, I think I'm like a nine or a 10. And then she'll rank like a regular ass comparable dude. She'll be like, he's like a five or a six. Our level of self-confidence is so fucking low in men.
Starting point is 01:12:14 And women are, every woman is like queen, you're gorgeous, you're the number one, you're 10, you're a fucking 10. I think that's sexuality though. There's, I think still like, I don't know how many generations this took or if it was always this way or but like I think still a man needs to win a woman over, you know
Starting point is 01:12:30 Sure, it's something so like that's just like I think there's some psychology in there be like that man But I need to there's a mountain I need to climb, you know Yeah, like damn there's some work that needs to put in there and then those numbers kind of represent the fucking effort too That would take that's why we like sports, yeah, you want to win. We don't just, if we got it for free it would be not that fun. If you were like, I like you and the girl's like, okay. You'd be like, nah, I don't know. That's fun sometimes.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Let's be honest. Well they just, okay, I like you too. Nah, we like to fight. I think that we like to, men's inherent, we want to chase. We want to go chase the, we want to like feel like we can achieve something some fucking English comedian said something that fucking blew my mind probably Jimmy Carr Yes, yeah, it's almost always Jimmy. He goes and it Really, you know, I like listen to a lot of people and I think just take everything with a grain of salt and there's a lot Of nuance on shit. So there's not a lot of like singular phrases that really change the way I think
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yeah, but I said, oh fuck. That's right. What did he said? It's not a lot of like singular phrases that really change the way I think yeah but I said oh fuck that's right what did he said it's not the fucking pursuit of happiness it's the happiness of pursuit yeah that's you're talking about rich kids just having nothing and you know like going back to the house I bought or the fucking Ferrari once you're in that bitch you're like what the fuck this isn't happiness no while I was pursuing that shit some of the best times of my career broke as fuck You know I'm saying on Medicare Medicaid. You know I'm still rapping going just fighting tooth and nail literally physically You know I'm saying like yeah, those were romantic times. I was fighting hard I was pursuing like crazy you know and if that shit goes away, or you know you see old rappers you know they think they get money or whatever and then they'd like
Starting point is 01:14:07 The music starts to fucking suffer. You know I'm saying it's like what are you pursuing? Yeah, what do you it's the person? You know, it's the it's the happiness of pursuit like I I agree with that shit whole happiness of pursuit Don't don't forget that kiddo while you're working your way through shit and complaining about having more money than you've ever had you fucking brat Mm-hmm. You fucking brat. Maybe you should money than you've ever had you fucking brat. You fucking brat. Maybe you should cut your hair. Cut your hair you fucking brat. Yeah, that's right turn your mic down. Don't say shit You can hear laughter outside on the good jokes. Ladies and gentlemen do me a huge favor.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Gosee, my beautiful sweet low, low profile shoe wearing prints. These are barefoot shoes. These are hilarious. You just walk around barefoot? I have strong calves, ankles, toes. Go see a strong calf, ankles, toes tour. What's a website, by the way? ProfCompo.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I don't care. Yeah, you do. I don't. I don't like to promote on podcasts. I'm just here to talk to you. I'm going to do it. ProfCompo.com. Thank you so much. Go see the king.
Starting point is 01:15:07 You're a sweet lad, and I hope you get those, I hope you get those people to jump on your shit because you deserve it. Before I go, I love you. I love you too. Like, there's a rare amount of people, did we just like vibe from the jump? Like that one night you came and saw me at Raleigh,
Starting point is 01:15:21 we talked for like, or Raleigh, we talked for like three hours, I'm like, and then right away I'm like, what's going on with this? And we came to Minneapolis, I'm like, damn, I feel like I've known you for a long time. I think that's like rare. I think it's because we have, I think, well, if you really wanna break it down,
Starting point is 01:15:35 I think it's because we have a similar, I think men who had, men who had some- Big dicks. Yeah, well, he said it. Men who have something... Big dicks. Yeah, well, he said it. Men who have something traumatic dad stuff, I think you bond pretty inherently. My father was not a part of my life as a kid. He was in prison.
Starting point is 01:15:53 And so then I think guys who have that, that's maybe bullshit, but guys who have that tend to be similar men because you had to work really hard to be your own man because you didn't really have a dad who Ushered you the way that some people were lucky enough to have and I think you kind of emulate the same Searching yeah the same things in life where you kind of see through bullshit pretty easily kind of call out bullshit You really care passionately and deeply about real male relationships when When you see a guy you like, you're like, I fuck with this guy. I fuck with this guy. And I've always been that way.
Starting point is 01:16:29 When I meet a dude that I like, I know that I like them. I can feel something in them. And I think it's probably come from a lack of a partial male figure who created some trauma where you're like, well, I'm not just gonna trust every dude. I'm gonna see men. I'm gonna see men for their value and their
Starting point is 01:16:45 truth and then you kind of get away from fake friendships. I don't have a lot of like dudes in my life where I'm like, why do we fucking hang with that guy? I've never had that. Straight up. And I hear that with people where they're like, I don't even know why the guy's in our group. There's not one motherfucker that like a man that I keep in my life that I'm like halfway about. It's flimsy. Right. Yeah. And I think people do that because some people are people, they're like, I don't want to
Starting point is 01:17:08 fucking hurt his feelings. Or clout, he seems powerful. Right, right. You just stick around him or something. No, fuck that. I just don't have that, to me, I don't like it. I've never liked that. And maybe I'm inferring too much, but I feel like it comes from that thing where you're
Starting point is 01:17:22 like- I've never thought about that. I value male relationships because I was sitting on a stoop waiting for my dad to show up. You know what I mean? You just solved, you know, just have every fucking dad leave and you could have good dudes like us. That's right, dude. Ruin your kids like-
Starting point is 01:17:37 We need a fatherless America. Hey, cheers, dog. Hey, cheers, we're working on it, baby. To fatherless America. We'll figure it out. All right, we gotta end this episode because it, baby! To fatherless America! We'll figure it out. Alright, we gotta end this episode, because it's beautiful and I love you. I really do cherish you. And I mean it. I know you don't want to plug, but I will say to my fans,
Starting point is 01:17:52 please go see him live, because we went and had one of the best nights. It was fucking amazing. It was just, you know, I love live performance. My music is good. Just stream that so it's a lot easier. Yeah, go see your life. If you don't like my music, don't come see me live. Yeah, but you're gonna. There's no fucking doubt, but please go stream that. We end the show the same way.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Look into that camera right there, you beautiful motherfucker, and say one word or one phrase to end the episode. It can be a word if you want it to be one word, but it can be a beautiful phrase if you want to kind of give a little piece of you to the people. This is crazy, you just said it that like brought me back. I've been telling my friends this cherish i cherish you i've been texting my homegirls my homies
Starting point is 01:18:31 i've been texting them and i don't think i've said it with you you better say it to me now now no no issue but you said i cherish you unlike i cherish you i've been doing i've been texting my homies and my homegirls like cherish something cherish cherish the more you say it more fucked up i like cherish cherish something cherish cherish yeah the more you say it more fucked up against cherish cherish cherish cherish cherish cherish it's gonna cherish in here we pour Dirty and ginger. Like peppers, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful.
Starting point is 01:19:05 You owe me five dollars for the whiskey and seventy-five dollars for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.

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