Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Rob Riggle

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

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Ginger. I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean him once again today. It's Rob Riggel! What? Come on! The Riggster, baby. Give me a little cheers. We're sipping a little sauce today.

This is wonderful. This is some nice, smooth sauce. Ooh, ooh. Man, I like it so much. Man, I was commenting earlier. your whiskey game is super tight. I got a whole cart there. We should put it on camera at some point, but I have been collecting over the years. This is actually about half the size.

He's seen it at my house. I have probably, yeah, maybe doubled or tripled this at home. That's amazing. I've gotten gifts from really high end collectors that do me well that know way more than I know but this has been an amalgamation of over the years of doing this show of people suggesting or bringing

me bottles and all that stuff. That's fantastic. Kansas City's got a whiskey maker, Jay Rieger. Jay Rieger. Rieger. Shout out to the Rieger. Yeah, shout out to Rieger. I used to be in business With those guys But then I You know

I was doing a vodka thing And it got all convoluted But I still believe in them Yeah you do I believe in them I like them They're good men They make a good quality

What's it called? Bourbon Jay Rieger Jay Rieger is the brand as well That's the brand Get yourself some Rieger I guess Get out there and have a sip sap of it Let me see what the bottle looks like

Is it a sexy bottle? That means something to me. It's pretty good. It's got good heritage. It's got good lineage. Yeah, it does? Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

The last time you and I saw each other, we were in Hawaii. That's right. See, we sound like high rollers when you say things like that. Well, it was a charity event. It was. And we were doing good for the kids, which is very nice. And I don't mind flying to Hawaii to play in a charity event for kids. Yeah.

If it's giving money for kids, I'm all about it. We're all about the kids, man. We're all about helping the kids, doing the right thing. Yeah. That's never in question. No, speaking of which, I saw a billboard last night at one of those LED trucks of kids who have been abducted. And a few of them I recognized. A few of those guys. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Some of the guys that I think, because I And a few of them I recognized. A few of those guys.

Really? Yeah. Some of the guys that I think, because I'm a part of a kid kidnapping. When you said LED truck, I didn't know what you meant. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was envisioning like one of those escalades that have the glow underneath. No, no, no, no. This wasn't a party bus in Vegas. That's right.

This is just screens. That's the first thing that popped in my mind. Yeah, but a few of the kids I had seen, because I'm part of a group of people that kidnap kids. And it's nice that they, some of our top picks were on the board. Well, they're finally getting the billing that they rate. It's terrible. I'm just kidding. No, but it was a huge truck last night.

It was like that. It was insane. All four sides had a picture of missing kids on it. Oh, wow. And I was like, I guess that is the move now, because milk cartons aren't doing it. They're not cutting it anymore. No. And they've gone away from milk cartons and more to the big gallon plastic things.

And by the way, that's a waste of milk. We don't need all that, too. Just put it on there. You never get to it. You're never going to finish. It's always going to spoil. There's always a little bit left. Boy, does it stink, too.

It's stinky. So one time, my little child, they're older now, but when they were little, spilled milk in the back of my car. You hit them. But they didn't tell anybody, okay? And I didn't see it right away. And I get back in the car, you know, and it was the devil. It was the devil's a-hole. I mean, really, really bad.

And I scrubbed and tried to clean. Nothing's taking that out. It just, it got into stuff, man. So there is crying over spilled milk in the Riggle household. There absolutely is. Yeah. Cry over spilled milk, because I want to know that you did it. Was it a car that you loved too? Or is it a... It wasn't even my car. Oh my God, that's even more fun. It was my

dad's Cadillac. So then my dad was like, what in the God damn... And I'm like, I don't know. That's the dangest thing. It must have been a skunk. Skunk done got in the caddy, dad. Skunk done got in the caddy, daddy. You know the skunks love the caddies, dad. These country roads

out here in Kansas, I'm sure if somebody hit it, mom probably hit it. Yeah, well, she's going to do it if anybody. By the way, I had to go to the doctor's appointment yesterday. That was a big thing. It's so funny. When I get weighed at the doctor's, I empty all my pockets. Me too. It sucks because the clothes are like 5, maybe 10 pounds. It's like 3.

It's like 25 pounds, right? This shirt's got to be 30 pounds. This is a 30-pound shirt, dude. The guy was like, do you want to de-robe? And I said, well, I'd like to know my real weight. He goes, it's still your real weight. I was like, no, it's not. When I'm at home... These jeans, because I'm like 6'2". You're He goes, it's still your real weight. I was like, no, it's not. No. When I'm at home.

These jeans, because I'm like 6'2". You're tall, man. 6'1". Yeah, that's a lot of material. Yeah. I mean, these jeans are heavy. That's right. They're not two-pound sweatpants.

I like that we're doing this. This is only people that are on the verge of being fat. Yeah, fat. That would be like, get the shoes and the pants. He needs the extra pounds. You know there's people that go in there that are like, can I put stuff in my pocket to get the weight up? Yeah. Yeah, he gave me on the weight thing, and then we went through the whole rigmarole, the questions.

I lean on the balls of my feet when they do the height. Yeah, me too. Just to maybe get a half inch more, just a little. I max out. I go full extension as much as I can. I'm elongating. So when they do the body measurements or whatever, they're like your weight compared to your height and all that stuff. But yeah, I empty my pockets because I feel like it's a shakedown.

I'm like, the clothing I'm wearing, sweatshirt, shoes, everything I've got on, these are man-sized clothes. That's seven pounds easy. That's seven. You've got to give me seven. And they're like, it's three. It's three max. Yeah. Two and a half, maybe.

Maybe three. Mostly two and a half maybe maybe three mostly two and a half but then they get you in there and they do that whole thing where they let you feel good about one thing and then you feel awful about everything else he'll be like blood pressure but look not bad not bad and he's like oof cholesterol this is really bad yeah your ldl or whatever it is right right right right there's one's good one's bad yeah i never know which is which but they're always telling me, you're fine here, you're fine here. But, you know. This is bad. And I know it's, I always know it's going to be in the, in danger zone.

Sure. Right, where I'm elevated beyond the level they're coming. Elevated, that's what they say. Yeah, you're elevated. And it's because, you know, I eat like shit. I do. What do you want me to do? You know, I'm not a master chef, and I don't like things that taste good.

I don't like it. Uh-uh. I don't. I like fried chicken. I like burgers. I don't like it. I don't. I like fried chicken. I like burgers. Trash. I like trash. And I like dipping sauces. I like my dipping sauces. I need my honey mustard,

my ranch. Oh, I put ranch on anything. Barbecue, whatever. I love my sauces, too. Yeah, it's so hard to eat. It's hard to eat how you're supposed to. We've got a sauce drawer. Do you have a sauce drawer at the house? Yes. Do you have a sauce drawer? No, you're too young. With all the Taco Bell sauce.

Correct. There you go. There it is. Yeah. There you go. We have a myriad of them. And my Chick-fil-A sauces. Chick-fil-A sauces, baby.

I got them. I always have those saved. Listen, I'm a connoisseur of ranch. Restaurant-grade ranch is important to me. I don't do Hidden Valley anymore. I used to do it. I could maybe dip a carrot into it. But again, that was like what I was trying and it was a failure.

I need restaurant grade ranch. Really? And Cheesecake Factory has the best ranch. Are you putting us onto a new hot take? Cheesecake Factory has number one ranch, you think? It has top grade ranch. Now there's other great ranches out there. Sure. But it's top grade. Right. And you can get it in a big mason jar.

You can get a pint of that stuff. And it's good for like two weeks. At Cheesecake, they sell it? They sell the pie? I will stop. There's a mall that I eat at the Cheesecake Fag too much. But I stop in, and they know who I am. When I come in, they're like, ranch today?

I'm like, yeah, give me a jar. Baby, can you pick up a pint of ranch on the way home? That's awesome. And they give the ingredients. And this is what's great about the internet. There's the crack there. Look at this. But let me tell you something.

My wife makes us homemade ranch at the house. And it's great. It's restaurant? It's great. But the problem is it's almost too, what is the word I'm looking for? It's like too culinary. It's like too homemade.

Okay. You want some of the secret jazz. I don't know. Some of the stuff that's- Some of the industrial level. Yeah. Give me something that drips from the ceiling that falls in there that's probably what makes Ranch really good

you know they have a big pot and the chef's just looking up going and there it is and now it's finalized that was like the god that reminded me of that documentary remember the Blue Bell controversy do you remember this?

that's where I got that from do you know Blue Bell ice cream? yeah years ago they had a controversy where they had a outbreak of whatever it was. What was it? What was that broke down? Uh, yeah, it was in 2020. They paid 19 million and pled guilty to charges of ship contaminated products, the outbreak Listeria. And they said it was from the ceiling in the factory. That's where I got that from. It was dripping into the ice cream from the ceiling.

They didn't know, though. No, no, no. They knew. They knew? Well, some of the workers were like, the conditions were ridiculous because the ventilation wasn't good enough, so they had complained about it. Oh, okay. But the higher-ups were like, shut up.

Not now. It's ice cream. Pack it up. That's always the best thing to do when you hear about a problem, is just pretend you didn't hear about it. Yeah, exactly. That's what every company in the United States does. No, what, really? That can't be right. No. That's just pretend you didn't hear about it. Yeah, exactly. That's what every company in the United States does. No, really?

That can't be right. You know what it is? It's just weak-ass managers who are like, I don't want to deal with a problem today. Look, man, I'm hungover. Just scoop the listeria out of the chocolate chocolate chip. Exactly. I'll be at the Cheesecake Factory if you need me.

What is your... Because I've gotten addicted, man. I used to not really love... Ice cream wasn't a thing. I'd have it once in a while. Now we have to keep it in the freezer. I've gotten addicted, man. I used to not really love, ice cream wasn't a thing. I'd have it once in a while. Now we have to keep it in the freezer. I have to have ice cream, and I have it almost every night.

We are such kindred spirits. I have a, this is embarrassing as shit, almost every night I have a chocolate shake after dinner. Whoa. Almost every night. Bad boy. It's gotten so bad that my girlfriend,

who you met. Yeah, she's wonderful. She's like, hey, I respect that you love this ice cream. Yeah. Could we talk about maybe just doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday? And I said, you're really good on thin ice, you know. Yeah, you're skating. Maybe

I'll put that shit on ice. I gotta tell you something. She looks like she doesn't have chocolate shakes every night. That's why. She eats well. She's in great shape. Yeah, she's physically fit. So I can see her judging this behavior, being like, too many. But she does make the shake, though.

Like, at the end of the day, she'll go, all right. Next thing I know, the blender's working. I'm like, oh, here we go. The sound of that really gets you going, huh? Oh, my God. Neem, neem, neem, neem, neem, neem. Yeah. And now I dress it up.

Sometimes I'm like, just to, you know, like, hey, baby, you know, look at me get on the healthy train. I'll put blueberries on my chocolate ice cream. I'm like, see? Huh? See? And she just shakes her head in the most disappointed way. But I'm like, I'm working on it, babe.

I'm trying. Well, you are. You're making strides. Show him the video of Bootsy Spaghetti that we saw yesterday. This is like the Bootsy making spaghetti. This may be one of the funniest things I think I've ever seen because whenever I feel like I do something, yeah, Lil Boosie doing spaghetti. Whenever I feel, hold on.

Whenever I feel like I've done something incorrectly, look at how much sugar he's putting into. What? That's sugar? That's granulated sugar in his spaghetti. That's a whole bag. Yeah, dude. What's he doing? He's ruining.

No, it's hilarious. But here's's he doing? He's ruining it. No, it's hilarious. Okay, here's the thing. Oh my god! It could be a bit, but I gotta tell you, he's wild and hilarious, and Busey makes spaghetti with a half a bag of granulated sugar. But here's the difference.

Look at the one coming. God damn! God damn! But here's the difference. You and I are closer in age certainly than him. And he, immediately, McCone, who's 24, goes, I bet you it slaps. I bet you it's good. So the kid generation thinks this might be pretty good. And I was like, absolutely not.

Open-minded. Open-minded. He's a little too open-minded. Yeah. By watching the video, just watching it right now, I feel the inflammation in my body. Well, yeah. You got diabetes watching the video.

I did, just now. But it's remarkable. I think I've never seen it. So I said to him, we went over the argument, is this for the internet? Because he's very funny. But also, I don't know. It looks legit.

The look on his face says, this is what I do. This is what I do. I cook it like this. This is what i do this is what i do he's all business like there's no wink and a nod there's no grin no that's right this is who i am this is what i do right this is a live stream right so we saw what we saw they saw what we saw there was no he didn't do another take of it now do you have like when i was a kid i remember i got yelled at because my mom for a while like, no sugary cereals because we were eating too much bullshit. So she took it away from us.

And then what we'd do, we would just put spoonfuls of sugar into Cheerios. I mean, we would literally dump half of the jar. So as I've gotten older, I still have a few things that I overindulge like that. Do you have any little secret ones where you put too much sugar in the thing? I was a tons of sugar in my Cheerios guy. Yeah, too much sugar in the thing or you i was a i was a uh tons of sugar in my cheerios guy yeah i'm too much where the milk was just sugar yeah and i could actually see the the oh yeah i love it when it's peeking through yeah the sugar peeking through like i would mix i don't know i've smashed it down quick before you know when you feel your teeth

on the milk the granular yeah it's bad it's bad bad. I've since tried to get away from it, but like I was saying, with the shake thing, I can't, ice cream is my, I can't give it up. I could give up like candy bars and pop. Yeah. Fine. I don't know. I'm over, I never was a sweets guy. Me neither.

I never was sweets. I did, I do, chocolate has got me. Chocolate's got the hook in. Chocolate. Chocolate's got the hook in me. Ice cream has got the hook in me. Yeah, it's tough. It really, really does.

I need it after most meals. Me too. I know. It's really weird. I don't know why it's doing that. I blame the pandemic, if I'm being honest. That's when I really doubled down on it. I really doubled down.

Me start ice cream on pandemic. I just couldn't. I was like, well, we're here. We're not going to go out for a dinner. We cooked. We did all this work. We cleaned. Shouldn't we fucking have some ice cream on pandemic. I just couldn't. I was like, well, we're here. We're not going to go out for a dinner. We cooked. We did all this work. We cleaned. Shouldn't we fucking have some ice cream?

I got in to reward myself with a treat. Yeah. And that pandemic, I did that. I really doubled up on my ice cream during that time frame. And now I can't get out. And now you're stuck. Now I'm in. And that's fine.

Honestly, who cares? Yeah. I mean, listen, this is all, look, we're not going to be around that long. Come on. No, dude. So just savor it. There's got to be a couple vices in your life. This.

Yes. Sauce. Wonderful little concoction, right? Just a little sauce. A little something. That makes the day worthwhile. Mm-hmm. A little ice cream.

That makes the day worthwhile. If you're lucky enough to get a little something, that makes the day worthwhile. Big time. Big time. So that's it. Those are the only joys in life. Enjoy them. Yeah, what else is left?

Because your kids are grown. Because we say we deny ourselves so much all the time. Yeah. You know, it's time to have these little moments of pleasure. Let it rip. Let it rip. That's what I'm saying. Your kids are grown now, so they're free, right?

Well, pretty much. I've still got a high school boy. Oh, wow. Is he your size? No, but he's going through puberty now. Oh, really? So it's about to happen. It's about to happen.

He's got the paws. Oh, yeah. And he'll grow into them. Is he an athlete? He was, but then he was a late bloomer. Yeah. Right? Because he's just kind of hitting it now.

He's a sophomore, halfway through his sophomore year. Were you like that too, or no? Yes. I was the last guy in my class to hit puberty. And then you're a big boy. And then it kind of came all at once on my junior and senior year. I was still growing into college, like freshman year and stuff. I'm still growing.

I'm still growing now at 40. Yeah. And so my boy, yeah, he'll grow into it. But the team sports left him because they all just got bigger than him. Sure. I remember I took his eighth grade class on their big field trip to Washington, D.C. or whatever. And these guys were six foot two, these eighth grade boys. I know.

And they were massive. They were coming up with mustaches like McCone. Yeah, they're all grown. And they were like, Mr. Riggle, Mr. Riggle. I was like, Jesus Christ, my boy's got no chance. I know. What are they feeding these kids to make them so big? He's got no chance.

I know. What are they feeding these kids to make them so big? I saw something of like the best top high school basketball teams in California. And the average height was like 6'5 or 6'6. I was like, what? There was one dude in my high school who was 6'8. One dude. He was the guy.

And 6'8, that's amazing for high school. Well, he was the only guy of that kind. He had to dominate that whole conference. Yeah, he was our center. He was the only guy of that kind of... He had to dominate that whole conference. Yeah, it was ridiculous. Everybody else was like, you know, 5'10 to maybe 6'2 if you're lucky. Right. If you're lucky. Yeah, yeah.

Our basketball team, you know, consisted of 5'11 to 6'2. Right. But now, I feel like they're all way, way bigger than we ever were. And maybe it's all working. Maybe the HGH and the booster is working, but God bless, dude.

Keep shooting it up. So what he's into now, because the and the booster is working, but God bless, dude. Keep shooting it up. So what he's into now, because the team sports passed him by, but he got into MMA. Oh, really? Yeah. So he's pretty good. He goes to his training. He does it. He works hard at it.

Now, what if he wants to go pro? Are you cool with that? Like, if he really commits and this becomes a career. You know, to me, if he goes, one of two things is going to happen. He's going to get popped in the mouth and he's not going to like it. Yeah. Or he's going to pop someone else in the mouth and love it. Yeah.

And so it'll sort itself out quickly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? He'll figure it out. He'll figure it out. Well, I'm not, you know, I got into it a little bit. Yeah. Rogan showed me it, but the thing that I'm into now, show him, have you seen these slap-offs?

Have you seen these slap-offs? Have you seen these slap-offs? Oh my god, I've seen it. It's an insane-a-thon. They're trying to kill each other. I can't stop watching this. It's amazing, man. They shatter, their faces are puffed out to here. The concussion, they have to be concussed every time, right? Well, I love that they did, so they're allowed to do one, two... So the career has got to be, what, two fights? It's one afternoon.

Yeah, you're done in an afternoon. But this is like, you watch this, and they do, they're allowed to do three, one, two, and they have to hit on the third one. And it's unbelievable how hard they hit these people. And it's, but like, it's so funny that for so long, slapping a man was like such a crazy, big, disrespectful thing to do. But now you have to sit there and take the slap. You can't, there's no clinching, no defending.

And you can't like, you can't try to move your head. No, yeah, you can't move. You can't slap. There's no clinching, no defending. And you can't try to move your head. No, yeah, you can't move. You get disqualified. And then you still get the hit. So you really have to take it, right? Look at this! Dude, it's awesome. I love it. When some of these guys get slapped, they go cock stiff.

They do that lock-up. Yeah, where the hands go up. And then they're just on the floor like this. I just don't understand this sport. But know what it's to me it's like anything else where i remember someone saying i think my dad was saying something he was like mma is that well because when it was you know the original cage fighting when the very first remember the very first one yeah my dad's like they get a wrestler, like an all-star wrestler, to fight like a Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy. Right. And then they didn't have, the only rule was no eyes.

No nuts. No eyes, no nuts. I remember there was an Asian guy who had on a red, like a Speedo. Right. And somehow was in with this other like 600-pound guy or whatever and just was punching him in the ding-a-ling. What? Yeah, just punching him.

Smoking it. And I was like, I guess that's, as long as you didn't hit the eyes, that was the only rule, I think. Yeah, I guess. Well, these are my eyes downstairs. I need my eyes down below. Don't pull on those things, man. Yeah, I got cat whiskers on this thing.

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It's shocking to think how tiny that was. So maybe this turns into something bigger. Who knows? I just don't think you're going to get enough people. Well, it's not as dynamic, of course. Mixed martial arts is so much more dynamic. But this still could be big. Because your career, like getting behind an athlete in this.

Athlete, yeah. Athlete, I'm being very generous. Getting behind, let's call him a fighter or a slapper. Getting behind a slapper is tough to do because they're not going to be around that long. No, they're in and out. I wouldn't think. They're in and out. What did that say?

How much money do they make? You know, what, 10 grand, 30 grand being the highest? What is this? UFC. Oh, well, UFC is much, much higher. Yeah, yeah, $3 million. Well, I mean, it's so much harder to compare because there's no money in it yet. But I had this discussion the other day.

You and I, both big golfers. Yeah. And what's crazy is how some guys that are on the tour doing well are still not, you know, weren't making a lot of money until very recently. The rules are changing. The times are changing. But it's crazy to think you're a pro. You're one of the top 50 in the world.

But if you're having a bad year, you're not making money. No. It's crazy to me. It doesn't because every other major league sport, every other professional sport, there is some sort of salary guarantee. Well, you're given a guarantee. Yeah. There's a base that you can count on to at least fund whatever life you –

And then let's say you have a great year, great. You reap the benefits of that. But they're the only ones who have to throw their bag in the car and go to the next tournament if they don't make the cut. Tough. And the caddy life, living with the caddy life. I said that last night with my cousin. We were watching the Worldwide Golf replay, and I said, this is what's interesting about

golf. And not that I'm trying to crack the tradition, but the athlete doesn't have to carry the bag, right? So what I'm confused with is why does some other idiot have to carry the bag? We can't just put that on a thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Why does he have to physically? I don't understand because the labor of it doesn't affect the athlete's performance.

Well, I think what it is, in my humble opinion, and I don't know't know but guessing is that golf is such an individual sport that the only it's like a boxer in the ring they got a fight but they go back to their corner to get sure get a third a perspective an outside view of what's happening or whatever yeah and that caddy is more than just carrying the bag i think he's also a confidant someone who calms him down someone who gives him advice someone who backs up his decision yeah you know that that no i agree i think quarter man but i'm saying what you're saying is you need to have that guy, but why does he have to carry the bag? Oh, yeah.

Why does he have to lug an 80-pound bag? Yeah. I never got that. No, you're absolutely right on that. Why not put it on a pushy trolley or... Yeah, because I understand if the athlete rules was, well, the athlete has to do this during competition. I totally understand that.

Yeah. But if the onus isn't on you to carry your own shit... I couldn't agree more. Then it's weird. It's those things like before Liv came along, everybody just accepted the paradigm of the PGA. Yeah. That was it.

That's it, and there's no debating it, and that's it. Then Liv comes along, and now all the rules have changed because the paradigm is now, well, we've got to pay our people, we've got to do this, we've got to do that. Things can be different. Well, I'm a big live guy. I mean, I don't know if you know, but I'm big into it. I played in the Pro-Am.

I'm friends with those guys now. And I'm a big proponent of, like, I like competition. It's just competition. We're in the same boat. We're from the same club. Yeah. I think the PGA, who I respect, and I respect tradition and all that stuff, but I think they got caught with their pants down.

I think they just used to be in this dinosaur who's like, this is how it is. We're this monolith. And when the competition came, they didn't know how to respond. They got caught with their pants down. 100%. And sorry, but we do live in a world of competition. And if I can make a better widget than you, then I should be able to come to market. Then check out my widget.

Then check out my widget. Take a look at my widget, man. Exactly. Exactly. It does feel that way to me. I just feel like the times they are changing, and so many other sports have shifted the way that the game is played. Why would

golf is so slow to do it? And the market will bear, too. The market will bear. Let's say Liv comes to the table and says, I think I've got a better widget, right? Well, if no one goes to see, no one likes them, no one responds, they don't have any't have any name talent well the market will bear that and they will fail and then if that happens okay you know but you took a shot exactly but if the market says no actually we we enjoy this we enjoy this competition we enjoy a new flavor we enjoy

yeah different kind of competition well guess what they they got the little chunk of your market share yeah i i think i think Every sport is changing over time. I don't know why this one wouldn't. And the ever-long debate, which I want to hear your side of it is, with my dad, because he's old school, he thinks shorts are bullshit. He's always like, guys shouldn't wear shorts

on the golf course. And I said, we wear shorts when we play. He's like, I'm not a pro. I was like, okay. I will say this this in a weird way i'm kind of with your dad i get it in a weird way i i like col i like college players wearing shorts okay i don't mind amateurs i think shorts is wonderful i just feel like it is the only signature thing that a pro can do to say i'm a pro i'm a pro is sweat i play in sweat i play in slacks yeah i play in

slacks that's my thing though it's like it's kind of like how the nba at some point all these athletes were like do does our penis have to fall out of the bottom of these shorts or could we have longer shorts and the nba was like okay i guess we can make this more comfortable for you fine give them the long shorts because there were daisy dukes and it was like i mean you know that the players were like, this is very uncomfortable. And they were finally like, yeah, I guess if it's affecting your performance, we should make it to the best of your ability.

So then they finally started to change. That's what I'm saying is like, if it's 90 and those guys are doing a tour in South Florida, why can't they wear shorts? I just don't get it. I don't know. And have you seen some of these guys' calves? You know, Phil. Delicious calves, this guy. Dude, seen some of these guys' calves? You know Phil. Oh. Delicious calves, this guy's dude.

Meat hawks, that guy, man. They're monsters. They're awesome. Yeah. Show them off. But talking about change, right, and talking about evolution, so you know soccer over the Premier League or whatever, they have all kinds of cups. They have the FIFA World Cup.

They have the Champions Cup. They have the UFA or whatever. They have all kinds of cups. They have the FIFA World Cup. They have the Champions Cup. They have the UFA or whatever. They have all these different cups. And they have a season that they play out, right? Right. And then within the season, they do this side thing, a little side hustle, where they try to win this other cup and all this stuff.

And so it's really interesting because they grab all the all-stars from everybody and they do all this stuff. And so it's really interesting because they grab all the all-stars from everybody and they do all this stuff. And it's interesting. And now it looks like the NBA. Have you seen this? No. The NBA, it looks like, if I saw an ad, it looked like. But basically, they're going to do some sort of mid-season thing where they grab the best players and they compete for a cup.

Oh, wow. So not only do you have them playing for their cities and da-da-da-da, just like soccer, now they're going to play for some Champions Cup. Oh, that's really cool. A basketball, and it's going to be this global thing, I guess. I like that. An in-season tournament. But to me, that's the evolution and the way they keep it going.

Yeah, in-season tournament right there. Well, you might as well keep things moving because, you know, I do think, you know, this sounds old school, but there is not a lot of allegiance anymore to a city or a team. A lot of guys just want to, you know, become the Avengers of a team and then win everything, which is the ultimate goal, right? And if that's the case, then it's like, well, then we might as well. Because, like, for soccer players, those guys jump around to wherever it works yeah and it used to be like you know when i was a kid kevin garnett played in minnesota sadly for far too long and then he got his come

up and when he finally left but he had allegiance to that city for a long time and there was always something special i don't know guys don't really do that anymore no they don't like i remember george brett with he stayed with the royals his entire career man you know 76 to 90 and and i remember or to 92 but i remember uh you know and and i feel bad for like barry sanders right you know great one of the greatest of all time stuck in detroit couldn't get i know you want him to move right you want him to move yeah so i don't know when leBron started that super team thing down in Miami, you know. Well, that was the beginning of all of it, really. I mean, that was like the cracking the egg of everyone starting to do it.

And I don't know what's right. I don't know what's right, because in baseball, there's no salary cap. Like, I remember one time, A-Rod, his yearly salary was equivalent to the entire Royals starting lineup. That sounds right. You know, I remember, because we just used to laugh about it. We're like, well, how are we supposed to compete? You can't. Now you can't. So then when you have leagues that do have these sour caps,

well, you see some parity. Sure. If you're at the bottom right now in the NFL, give it about five years, you'll be back. You'll be in the playoffs. You say that, but we're the Bears. You say that, but we're the Bears. We've given it a lot of years man pick right

if you okay yeah i know but you still have you still have a puncher's chance because even if you stay at the bottom longer you just keep like the browns right now have like their starting lineup has got like 11 uh between the offense and defense they got like 11 number one picks and they still can't get it and they still can't get it done no it they still can't get it done. No, it's true. But it's true. I still always hold out hope because that is, the NFL still does have that hopeful underdog thing. It's harder to see in other sports, I think. Hopeful underdog in like the NBA is a lost cause. And I always wrestle with this because I'm a capitalist.

So I'm like, what the market will bear, the market will bear. Right. And if you've got the money to get that talent, get that talent or whatever. But then I'm like, yeah, but then it makes the league really hard, you know, because you're just, it's always going to be the same five teams competing for the trophy. Well, I've got a suggestion. You tell me if this is wackadoo nonsense. Oh, boy.

So you put almost like fantasy, right? You put everyone in a slotted numerical position of what would be their financial worth is now slotted into a numerical worth. The example I would give is my dad does a charity golf tournament. And when we do a golf tournament, not charity, what am I? We do charity.

We do a golf tournament every year. And you're a number, an A player, a B player, a C player. And each team gets one A and then you get two B and two or three C, right? Right.

So I, you would do that with NBA players. Everyone's in a bucket. It's kind of a quality control. Yes. And at the beginning of the year, you get randomly selected. And let's see what you do with that team. Because if we're not going to have any allegiance to cities anyway, well, then anybody gets

a chance to have the best squad for the year. And let's say that goes on for like a two-year gap. So for a year or two, you play for goes on for like a two-year gap. So for a year or two, you play for that same team, and then you get back in the shuffle again. It'd be kind of fun to see. That's an interesting concept. And then your financial worth is based on what it was before.

You were an A player anyway. We determined that when you came into the league. That's how you were drafted. How can players go from C to B to A? Yeah, you can bump up at the end of the year. If your numbers are tremendous. Much like any good ball player, if you had a great year, the next year you're going to use that option, if you have it, to either say, hey, I want a couple more bucks.

I want to make sure the players stay incentivized. Totally. If their play is good, then they get to reap those rewards. And you're going to get bumped to the next league. Because honestly, I just think if there is not going to be allegiance to cities it's very tough in the nba specifically the nba then why wouldn't it be more of a randomization and a fun it's almost like we're watching different little olympic squads come together you know when the olympic team comes together you're like what do you call this plant do you have a name for it yet the san wriggle

the santino wriggle thing let's just real quick on air we're gonna yeah copyright trademark yeah we have to we have to we have to trademark it please get on that we email the yeah please thank you no i just feel like there's something to be it because this is this is a fun concept it's fun it's different it's weird because nowadays i grew up in the dominant monopolization of basketball in chicago with jordan yeah and it and because it was mine yeah it was amazing yeah you loved it Nowadays, I grew up in the dominant monopolization of basketball in Chicago with Jordan. Yeah. And because it was mine, it was amazing. Yeah.

You loved it. You had a great childhood. Right, right. But for other squads, I'm sure it was just, it was kind of lame for so long that he had created one of the most dominant teams of all time. Yeah. So I think it'd be fun to see them switch. But there was something special, though, because...

But that only happens once in a lifetime, man. I mean, it's once in a great, great while. And he was a special individual. Totally. His work ethic, his demand of his teammates. Yes. He created that. Totally.

He built it, created it, and his special skills and his leadership, whether you liked it or not, it's still leadership. But let me see what he does with a bunch of different B and C guys. Yeah. Let me see what Jordan does the next year with, you know, a totally different lineup. I think there's something. Like, I want to see Jordan. Let's see what Reggie Miller and Isaiah Thomas and Bird and what all those A's did with new B's.

That would be so cool to watch. I want to watch Stockton and Jordan. It would be wild to watch them two together. And the only time we ever got to do that was 92, the Dream Team. Right. That's what I'm saying. So why don't we make every year or two, maybe you get two years of this team, and I'm pitching it.

You're hearing me at the NBA. You've got to try this out. We've got to figure out a way. Because the only way they'll implement it is if they do it on a minor league level and it works. Well, you could do it in the G League. You could do it in the G League and see how that works in the G League. And if it works in the NBA's supplementary league.

I think you just created something amazing. I know. By the way, NBA, if you steal this idea, what are you looking up? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's on record. Adam Silver. Yeah, Adam is a big fan of this show. Adam, if you're listening, Adam Silver, if you're out there listening carefully to this show.

We're not asking questions. I have no claim to this, but I will say. I'll let you in. You're here. I just want a suite. I want to be in the suite with you. You heard it, Adam. Please, Mr. Silver.

With food service and liquor, top shelf liquor. Dude, isn't that funny? When you get invited to these suites at athletic performances or whatever, and if you get into one of these suites, they're amazing to get into one of them, but sometimes you go to one that doesn't have food or booze, and you're like, oh, man. Or some nasty-ass chicken fingers with some bad sauce. I'm like, this is all you got? Then I'm like, I'll roll the dice out of concessions.

I'm going to concessions every time. If there's only one thing and they're like, you guys get McUltra and chicken wings. I'm like, I'll go back to concessions. And a thing of popcorn that everybody's been finger banging. Yeah, no thank you. I'll roll the dice at concessions. So that's the proposition, Mr. Silver, Mr. Adam Silver.

If you want business with us, you know how to contact us. You know how to get a hold of us. It's not that hard. And get the Kings back to Kansas City. No one's watching them in Sacramento. Get the Kings back to Kansas City. Yeah, why not? Seriously, we want them.

We want them back. You should have never left. And Sacramento doesn't give a shit about the Kings. No. You know what's so funny is we're playing a show in Sacramento next year, but we're playing a place called Wheatland or something, and most of the time, if I misquote it online, if I say, we're playing Sacramento, someone goes, you're actually playing Wheatland, but Sacramento doesn't give a shit.

They're like, yeah, man, it's all Sacramento. Whatever. Don't worry about it. It's not that big of a deal. I don't even know what it's called. Yeah, Sacramento. What is that? The hard rock.

Click on the thing. I think it's called Wheatland is the name of the area but it is funny some cities get real sensitive like you guys have this in spades because you know i've talked to you about this i went to college with a lot of kansas city guys which is why i have this weird connection to kansas city because a bunch of my boys were from overland park and all over all over but uh which. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is where I'm from, Overland Park. Oh, are you really? Oh, that's wild.

Yeah. And Park Hill South is where someone went to high school. Yeah, and that's where Stone Street, he's from the Park Hill area. Oh, really? It's in North Kansas City. Yeah, some of those guys went there. But so I have this weird affinity to them, but they take it, Midwest people know, Kansas City takes it real, real serious

if you're Kansas side, Missouri side. That's like a big, because no one really knows. And I'm so specific, too, because the simple truth is, like, Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas, you know, it's split down the middle. Yeah. And so a lot of people get confused by which is which. Sure. Kansas City, Kansas has a lot of industrial, you know, area. And Kansas City, Missouri has the downtown skyline and they have the Truman Sports Complex

and they have a lot of the goodies, right? I see what you're doing. But now we've built up a lot of stuff out on the Kansas side with the racetrack and the soccer team. Soccer field, right? That's right. So it's a balancing act or whatever. But I do tell when people say, where are you from? I say, I'm from Overland Park, Kansas. I'm very specific. You let them know. Yes.

Yeah. Because it is kind of a big point of contention of people that I know from the area that... But what doesn't matter, no matter which side you're from, you're still a Kansas City sports fan. Yes. So that division doesn't matter. No. That's what's interesting. Yeah.

There's no division there. We're all red. Right. You're all... Yeah, right. That, I think, is kind of powerful. That's a cool thing. That's kind of like, for me, growing up in Chicago,

I don't give a shit what part of Wisconsin you're from. They're lunatics about Green Bay. You know what I mean? That's all they got. I know, but it's just, it's so big to them. Yeah. And Chicago is such a mixed bag that there's probably people from other parts of the country

that are like, maybe Bears fans, maybe not. But if you live in Wisconsin, I don't care if you're from Massachusetts, you could be from New York City, you move to Wisconsin and you become a diehard. That's the one thing I credit them. Or you move back out. Yeah, right, right. It's a real quick choice. Or you leave. Or they beat you up and you leave. Or they run you out of the state. Yeah, you don't have a choice.

So being a golf fan, you'll appreciate this. So I was lucky enough to play in the Ryder Cup up in Whistling Straits. And my partner, because they knew it was in Wisconsin or whatever, my partner was A.J. Hawk.

Whoa! And I mean the crowd. It was a massive crowd, you know, a gallery. And it's just a little celebrity match or whatever.

It's some European celebrities against some American celebrities or whatever. Sure. And it's just a little two-man scramble, like nine holes or whatever. But it was a lot of fun. But those fans were going so nuts

for AJ, man. Oh, man, yeah. Absurd. It didn't matter what he did. They were like, AJ! They're ripping their hair. They couldn't get enough. This is for you, dude! Do you see what I did? I love you, AJ! Is he a good golfer? He, yes. Well, he probably beats the shit out of the ball.

There's no doubt. He clubs that thing. It's so funny to watch athletes hit it. His swing is so violent. It's so violent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going three bills every time. It might not go straight, but it's going three bills every time.

Yeah, sometimes over there, but also very far. But when he did rope it right down the middle. It is insane to watch. When they do hit it like that, it's almost, you do see why God made them different. When you see a pro athlete play a sport that's not their own, you're like, oh my God, you are made completely uniquely different than me. You and I have both been around professional athletes and you're 100% right. Yeah. I don't know how, what, if it was Zeus, I don't know who blessed them or touched them at birth and granted them the gifts that they have.

But their bones are bigger, their muscles, their tendons, everything about them, even their mindset is competition, competition, competition. Well, this thing is the most unique part about it because I see guys that do other sports that they don't play. And the way they think about these sports, the way that they're competitive, and even in that, you're like, oh man, you just know how to dissect competitive things better than anybody else. You really have different vision over a game. Because it's a game, they break it down.

You know how to focus, when to focus, and their focus goes from nothing to hyper. Right away, yeah. There's no middle ground. Meanwhile, me and a couple of these, and I'm just like, whatever happens, happens. I'm taking selfies. I'm like, whatever.

We're out here partying. That is true, man. They just take it to a totally different level. But those pro-ams are kind of the coolest thing to see different people excel even at that game. Like, I went and did Steph Curry's a couple years ago in Stanford, and, you know, everyone brags that Steph's a good gol did steph curry's a couple years ago in stanford and you know everyone brags that steph's a good golfer but he's also just he's just got the swag of an athlete there's

something that they all have he has the swagger he could eat a sandwich you'd be like holy shit the way he eats that sandwich that's the best i've ever seen they're just good at that i don't know they're better at you at all like i'd be spilling on my shirt stuff. It's just something about it. There's lettuce in my beard somehow. Do I look ridiculous? Yeah, you look like an idiot. No, they're very fun. They're super fun.

Do you get nervous in those things? I get a little nervous. Always. Oh, my God. My grip pressure goes through the roof. Even though I tell myself to calm down, I say swing easy. I swing hard. Hard as you can.

It's just, you know, we're not as conditioned for, like, you know, it's funny, too, because I hear athletes say, I could never do what you do, you know. Yeah, you could, probably. I'm like, yeah, of course you could, you know, with enough. But they are very used to athletic performance in front of people. You know, our games weren't meant to be put on display. No. They're for us and our friends. Our little secret.

It's my little tiny secret. Exactly. So when you have to put our games on display in front of galleries and people and everything gets heightened and all that anxiety comes in. It comes through. And golf manifests all your, whatever you're feeling that day, if you're angry

when you get to the course, if you're rushed, if you are preoccupied with a fight with your girl or this or anything, it all comes to the golf course. It's not like you put it on the shelf. And it's not like you can use it. Like in football, you could use it to take that anger, that frustration, that anxiety, and you could pound someone or run hard or get it out of your body. In golf, it just stays inside you and manifests in your shitty play. Exactly right.

Yes, you're like, what'd you shoot today? You shouldn't say a number. You should be like, I'll tell you what I shot. I got in a fight with my wife this morning. And my car needs to be taken back in for the fourth time. The front nine was me dealing with my fucking manager. Yeah, exactly right. The back nine was me dealing with my girl.

You want to know how I played? You want to ask my kids how I played today? You know? Because you had a full fight with them and nobody knew about it. Just you. dealing with my girl. You want to know how I played? You want to ask my kids how I played today? You know? That is so true. Because you had a full fight with them and nobody knew about it, just you. And manifest right there. That is true.

All that kind of comes in the way that we don't know how to deal with it like they do. I want to know your opinion. You don't have to go too deep. But because I can't avoid it, unfortunately, being a KC guy and our boy Travis with this Taylor Swift thing.

Now, do KC fans, are they over this whole nonsense of it? Yeah, I think in a way, and when I say over it, I don't mean like they're over them. No, just the publication of it. Just the constant hype. Yeah, so much. And like a Taylor check-in all the time. What do they do? Why are the NFL doing that?

She's his girlfriend, their boyfriend, girlfriend, or they're dating or whatever they're doing. They're enjoying it. It is what it is. It comes with being high profile. It just comes with being high profile. I know, but it's so funny that the NFL is utilizing this to really bank. To win girl fans, to win all those Swifties.

I know. They knew where the money was. They were like, dude, put the camera up there, make one of these guys talk about it at least once every other break. It's interesting. I mean, it's just, it's a very big. They always have to mention it. They do.

They always have to mention if she's at the game or not now. I know. It's so funny. You know, like when they were in Germany, you know, they were like, well, she's not here. Yeah. And Taylor is not here today. We will be missing her in the stands. And she's very good at this.

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she goes do people in germany like football i was like yeah yes people like football everywhere but i do understand what she's saying of like that would be i got why she was like why is it there i'm like well they're trying to expand their audience and why are the germans embracing like a kansas city team well they pick teams you. And why are the Germans embracing like a Kansas City team? Well, they pick teams. You see those guys in Europe. Yes, they do. You'll see a guy with like a Dallas shirt on, and you're like, oh, that's kind of wild. They have no connection.

I asked a guy one time. I was in Venice, Italy during the Super Bowl probably 15 years ago. I was in college. Yeah, 18 years ago. And I'll never forget. We found a bar, a pub, that was open after hours because the time difference and the Super Bowl was playing.

And guys had different shirts on or were cheering, and there were teams that obviously weren't represented. And I was like, how did you become that fan? You know, a New York Giants. And they always had kind of an elongated version of like, well, a friend of mine went to New York one time 10 years ago, said it was the most fun he ever had, and he saw a game, and then now I like it.

Or they pick one player from, it's not even usually a current player. Sometimes it's like, you know, again, they'll be like, Barry Sanders is why I like the line. And you're like, wow, that's fucking amazing. Yeah, and I think the Chiefs right now have such a fun roster. Oh, yeah. And they're doing fun things like winning and dating famous people. Winning, yeah.

So winning helps. But the Chiefs fans at that game in Germany, it was like a home game. But they also had the same kind of intensity that American fans have. They have. Because you forget, the way that they treat football, soccer, is how we treat football, football. Yeah. Except I would argue they're way more intense than we are. And I can see how this happens, because on the reverse side of that, like, I know nothing about the Premier League.

You know, I mean, I know some names, right? And old names like Beckham and, you know, things like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, and I have a cursory understanding of Premier League soccer. Sure. But I shared an office with John Oliver when I was at the Daily Show. He's the best, man. And so I educated him on American football

and he educated me on the Premier League. Oh, that's cool. And then he's like, so I'm a Liverpool man. So I was like, well, I guess I am too. So that's how I became a Liverpool. Exactly. But I have no other allegiance other than John introduced me to Liverpool and made me a believer. That's cool.

Because he's a good propagandist with that. And I made him believe in the Chiefs a lot, but then he rejected me at the last minute and went with the Giants, so fuck him. You know what? He lives in New York. He lives in New York. That's it. But even still, you took up Liverpool.

John, what's your deal, bud? Yeah. Give us a call. Yeah. Reach out. Yeah, come on. This is some serious bullshit. Well, because your allegiance comes from, like happens too with like my dad likes stuff and i

just like it because of him like i don't he went to university of tennessee i don't have any allegiance tennessee but i support him and i like it yeah because it's his yeah so if it's like someone you love supports it you're like i guess i'm gonna do it too right and if there's no harm no foul i'll get on board yeah why not right as long as it's not... So, like, right here in L.A. I live in L.A. My kids are being raised in L.A. But I'm a Kansas City through-and-through guy, right? So it's Royals, it's Chiefs.

You know, I went to KU, so I'm a Jayhawk. These are just my things, right? And for the most part, the kids have not had a choice. But I said, listen, you're growing up in L.A. You can have the Lakers. You can have the Kings. Clippers. And I'll get on board with the Dodgers because they're National League.

That's right. Unless it's the World Series and they're playing the Royals. But I'll get on board. I'll wear a Dodgers hat. I'll go out there and play with you and let you have the Dodgers. And are they L.A. fans? They do appreciate having some L.A. locals

they can get on board with. We move here. I've been here for so long, too. It's like, what am I going to do? Not go support local sports? I can't see my team. And when I do see them, they get romped when they come here. So, you know, whatever.

It's fine. It's like I had no problem. It's tough for me as a Cubs fan because the Cubs-Dodgers head-butting that we did during our little triumphant year. But outside of that, yeah, man, I'm a local fan of a lot of sports because I live here. What do you want me to do? I won't go see the Angels. I mean, I'll go to a game if they're playing the Royals.

I've been down there once. But they're American League, and I can't do it. I also don't want to go down there. It's just too far. And the good thing, too, the Chargers are now LA, so I get to see the Chiefs at least once a year. That's true. Yeah, that's nice. When they come to town.

And then the Raiders are right there in Vegas, and so they're playing in Vegas once a year, so there's a couple games. Yeah, that's happening. Have you been to Vegas to that stadium? Yeah, it's gorgeous. Unbelievable. Gorgeous. Yeah, that's the one thing I'm hoping for that continues. I mean, you too, by the way, you guys, because Arrowhead is showing her age spots. I think we're the oldest stadium left in the NFL.

You got to be, right? Because now that Oakland's gone, you guys got to be it, right? Yeah, and we were built in 72. Well, no, Soldier Field, we're still the oldest. But you know, the irony is we don't own that place. No, no, but you have a new field. Soldier Field has a new field. It had a upgrade to the, it had a facelift.

It was just a facelift? It wasn't a whole thing? No, just a facelift. Like Lambeau, too. Lambeau's one of the old boys. Yeah, that's right. And there you are, Arrowhead, number three. Lambeau, yeah.

I can't believe we skipped over that. But here's the thing. Like Kansas City, in my opinion, and probably Lambeau if they're going to embrace the future. They'll never change that field. That's insane. I know, but they've got to put a roof on it so that they can have a Super Bowl. Yeah. Same thing with Chicago.

You're going to have to put a roof on Soldier Field. Well, no, they're going to move. Arrowhead needs a roof. And the thing is, nowadays, the design's amazing. You can do these retractables. So when the weather's nice, open it up. Have an outdoor game. Right.

But in those cold months, you've got to be able to cap it off so that you can get your Super Bowl. See, I agree. I'm one of these guys that I said that during the Denver-Kansas City game. I said, look, it's cool that there's snow, but also would be a little bit easier on injury and a little bit easier on their bodies if they could play with a little bit of cover. And now that they're asking them to play more games. Yeah, it's like, dude, cover these guys up. Let them last a little bit longer.

You're already getting them to play on turf sometimes, which is, you know, from what I hear from a lot of those guys, is the hardest thing on their knees and their body. Yes. So it's like, all right, well, then cover it. I know that's such a, you know, I get that some people are like, oh, you can't cover it up. It's supposed to be a snowball, dude. But it's like, no, dude, this is for the health and safety of these guys so they can continue their careers. I agree.

And on one hand, I appreciate the purity of a snow game or a mud game or a rain. The elements. There's something cool about that, and I do respect and appreciate that. I'm just thinking, now I'm thinking of the financials of it which is yeah you know when a stadium gets to be 50 years old 51 years old and it's time for a new stadium you got to think about putting a retractable roof on it come on especially if you want to host a super bowl yeah you know it's just or do what arizona did grow grass outside which i think is one of the coolest i was like how come everybody doesn't do that grow the grass outside i've seen when the field they push it in, and then they bring it out?

Yeah, why not? The design ability and the engineering that can be done, there's no reason not to do this stuff. Yeah. I think there's a lot of pride stuff. With Chicago, you know, our whole thing is they invested in property out in Arlington where the racetrack used to be, but Chicago is... There's a lot of

elements that are fighting on moving it, because people don't want to move it. But this is a boring fact, but we don't own that stadium. The city does. The Park District owns it. Well, they should. We're not making all the money on it. If they want that waterfront property and they want to keep Soldier Field, just put a dome on there because that wind coming off the water is so cold. It's comical.

I remember going to games as a kid. It's so cold. And enjoying none of it until we got back in the car. Because it's true because it's painful. Yeah, they also lost every time, like as a kid. It's so cold. And enjoying none of it until we got back in the car. Because it's true! Because it's painful! Yeah, they also lost every time, like as a kid. I think I went to one game that we won. And then also, you're having fun because you're with your

friends. Yeah. Especially when we were young. Like, we went to a couple of rain games, like heavy heavy rain games. I remember my buddy Josh and Sean, and those days were rad because it was fun and you're young. But as you start to get older and want to watch the game more you're like I can't do this I'm uncomfortable there's no way they like this it's so freezing your face hurts your nose is gone forget it your nose is absolutely

gone yeah it's rock solid yeah it's painful it. It's actual physical pain. And now, you know, it's funny because the older I get, the more I'm like, you know what? Do I want to fight the traffic, fight the people, pay ridiculous prices at concessions, all this stuff on top of the ticket, or do I want to stay in my

comfy jammies on my awesome couch with my fireplace and my big ass TV. And then go take a quality dump or whiz with no pressure, no rush, no people staring. And not have to listen to the guy next to me blast out his burrito. You know, because it's obnoxious. Like the men's rooms and bathrooms, you know. They're hideous, right?

And so it's like, do I want all that or do I just want to stay home and I'll be good? Well, there's two things you made me think of. One, that's my reasoning for how much I get mad at Los Angeles because

a lot of times, like, with Dodger games, they black them out. What city can't you watch your own local team? I think that's lunacy to me unless you have a

certain cable provider. Yeah. That's bonkers. Yeah. I've said it a thousand times, shame on the city for doing that to its own people. Yeah. that's lunacy to me unless you have a certain cable provider yeah that's bonkers yeah i've sent it a thousand times shame on the city for doing that to its own people yeah but also staying at home thing the new thing that they're pitching is the metaverse of like buying the online tickets you know have you seen this where i've heard about but i don't know anything about it or whatever it's called and you can be at the game sitting in proverbial seats unbelievable so you

are still at home but you're still at the game and i proverbial seats. That's unbelievable. So you are still at home, but you're still at the game. And I think that is 100% the future. To supplement what you're talking about is like, why wouldn't I just rather sit at home but be at the game? I'm there. I'm seeing it like it's live. I'm literally watching a live stream. I'm totally down.

Like SoFi Stadium is a gorgeous stadium. It's really beautiful. Getting in and out of SoFi is- Yeah, gun in my mouth. It's two hours. Gun in my mouth. It's two hours! Gun in my mouth. It's two hours either side of the game. Two hours getting in, two hours getting out. That's absurd.

How did they not know? How did they not build and how did they not build arteries in and out of that place? Didn't do it. Properly. I think there's one entrance and exit. And by the way, the people that work it, shout out. No hate. But every time I go, I'm always like, where's parking lot A? And they're like, I have no idea.

They have no idea. Completely. They have no idea. They have not trained a single person. No, no. I got to the stadium and I was like, do you know where this section is? They go, no, man. No.

I was like, do you know anybody that does? No, man, walk it off. Yeah, they're like, I don't know, man. Walk it off. It's almost like, fuck you. How dare you ask me? Dude, I'm working here. Leave me alone alone you're like

all right but it's i'm like so no one at the stadium was trained you know no staff member got any kind of education training on the stadium the parking lots what's where but you know and even like you can say okay even if you don't teach them everything about the just say this is where you're going to be working you know to your left is this entrance to your right is that entrance and that's the parking lot that's out in front of you and get familiar with the area yeah just a little note we went to go see metallica there and it was the funniest thing as we walked up and i was like i think this is the gate we're supposed to be going in and the guy like looked at the tickets and he goes your guess is as good as mine and i was like

all right well and it wasn't we had to walk all the way around. It's fine. I don't care. But it was like, yeah, I guess they're just shooting our shot. At some point, you do get a hold of it if you've gone enough where you're like, I think I know the side I'm supposed to be going into. Well, I think I've been three or four times now. Yeah. And this last trip, I finally was like, okay, I think from now on, I'm only going to try to park in this parking lot. Yeah, because this is the one on, I'm only going to try to park in this parking lot. Yeah, this is the one.

And I'm only going to try to use this entrance. Yeah. Because this worked. Right. This was quick and easy. This works. This works. Don't upset this.

And I got out pretty easy. So I was like, okay, I'll tell no one. Right. Of this secret. Right, right, right, right, right. No one will know. No one will ever know. And to your kids, you're like, don't say a word to any of your friends at school.

Their father should not know my little secret. My dad always had little tricks like that too or stuff that he was like, no, no, this is the best place to park. We'll get in and out of this thing.

And I was always like, how do you, dads have a way of figuring out their little tricks of whatever their thing is. Or, you know, like my mom,

shout out to my mom who called before the show. My mom, since I was a kid, refuses to park at the grocery store in a regular spot because the parking lot's always filled with cars. She parks in the fire lane alongside and then puts on her flasher sometimes and just goes and shops and has been doing this. By the way, I'm calling her out. You got to ticket her or tow her.

Get her out of there. She's been doing this for so long. Dude, she parks in the fire lane illegally next to the grocery. My dad's always like, you're going her or tow her. Get her out of there. She's been doing this for so long. Dude, she parks in the fire lane illegally next to the garage. My dad's always like, you're gonna get towed. She's never gotten towed, never gotten a ticket, never once. I just like the moxie of it. She does not care, dude. I like that at some point

she had had enough and was like, I'm gonna roll the dice, but this play is worth it. It worked. I can't believe she's never been towed. She keeps going back to the well, though. The day will come. She's an addict for good parking. She needs to go to rehab for good parking.

But she does that all the time. She has that. My mom has got that thing in her. I don't know if it's a city kid thing, but you'll just do it and let them tell me I can't do it type of vibe. In L.A., I'm like, oh, they'll tow your car. They'll tow it within seconds of me parking it. They can't get anything right in this town.

Mm-mm. Except for speeding tickets, parking tickets. Oh, they'll smoke you. Oh, it's like they lay in wait. They're hiding in bushes. Yeah, little creeps. Yeah, they're just the worst. Yeah, they really do.

Dude, I got a ticket. But they can't do anything else. No, no, no. Everything else has gone to shit. Yeah. But, boy, they can find a way to give you a ticket oh yeah my friends just got robbed they just got their house broken into unfortunately and the cop showed up and you know you feel bad because the guy's like look man you know budget constraints like we can't we don't have enough guys to like even really he's like this is not going to be investigated yeah he goes we're going to get somebody at some point to come to the house.

But he goes, how long can you not touch where they broke in? And they were like, they broke into our bedroom. And he's like, yeah. So he's like, I don't know what to tell you. Tough luck. Yeah. Yeah. Good shit.

Tough shit. Yeah. But it sucks. Yeah. You feel bad. The cops are like, we have no, they're like, our resources are lower than they've ever been. He's like, so we can't do anything else. That's, it's. You feel bad. The cops are like, our resources are lower than they've ever been. He's like, so we can't do anything else.

It's a huge bummer. That's the genius of defunding the police. I know. Yeah. We don't need you guys. That makes all the sense in the world. Unless we get robbed. Yeah.

Then we'll need you. Unbelievable. No, yeah. So it sucks. It's that kind of thing where they, it sucked because they were like, these guys broke in and they think it was an inside job. Oh, that sucks even more. I think they know it was an inside job.

Well, because it was someone that had known where their stuff was. That kind of stuff hurts. I know, then you go through the whole thing. Yeah, because then you're like, oh, that feels way more of a violation. Who's been in my house? And I think about him

because he's been in my house. McCone's been in my house. And I think if we ever get stolen from, it's got to be you. It's got to be. It's got to be him. He looks like he knows someone that wants to rob us.

No offense, McComb, but there's so many things working against you. Show him your hair. Look what he did for his hair. We did that for another show. Jesus Christ. He commits to the bit, baby. The kid commits to the bit. You do commit, sir.

Yeah. Actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kudos big time. But also very scary that he did it. When he did it, I thought, man, it's a bad idea. I'm glad he did it because I told him to. Or actually, I said, if you really commit, I'll be real proud.

You look like a young Gallagher. He does. He really does look like a Gallagher. He really does with the hair. All you need is a sledge-o-matic, my friend. But the only thing he's breaking is my heart. Gallagher was one of those guys that I remember as a kid, you know, not to like, I'm not dissing him,

but I remember thinking it was so incredibly funny, like absurdly funny. And then I got older and I was like, this is funny, but I don't know if it's that funny. It was just crazy more than funny. It was 100% unique. Yeah, it was so different. Nobody was doing it.

So he had his own lane. Totally. more than funny. It was 100% unique. Yeah, it was so different. Nobody was doing it. So it was, he had his own lane. Totally. And that's, and back in the day, that made all the difference. Well, that's, I mean. Because like Stephen Wright

had his own lane because of his delivery. Yeah, totally. And so he had his lane and Gallagher had his lane and Kennison had his lane. Yeah. And it was all because

they had their own signature. You have such a love for standup. I mean, you're like, you've got a big old crush on it. I do. I grew up loving, I remember in the eighties, my, you know, my dad dropping me off to see Sam Kenison down at Kansas City Municipal Auditorium, you know, and, and Stephen Ryan, I would go see all the comedians. I, you, my, one of my first jobs, uh, when I was in college, I was a 19-year-old doorman. I wasn't big enough to be a bouncer or whatever, but I was a doorman at Stanford & Sons Comedy Club. No shit.

It was Craig Glazer. Yeah. Craig Glazer. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. God bless. Rest in peace. There was a club owner from, we've talked about it sometimes on this show, but Craig's no longer with us.

One of the first times I ever played that club, he was a club owner of the club in Kansas City. He picked me up from the airport in a Lotus, in a little tiny sports car. They're the smallest things on earth, right? And I'm not particularly a short guy, and I'm cramped in this little Lotus with my luggage on my lap, you know, my duffel bag on my lap.

This is so quintessential. And my neck is like craned like this. And he's like, yeah, man, it's going to be a great weekend. And dude, you're going to rip. You're going to love the new club. What we've done to the club. That's exactly how he sounded. Spot on.

It's spot on. What we've done to the club, Santino. You're going to lose your shit. That's exactly. And he was always smoking. Always smoking. With the windows closed. And the Lotus, he would keep them closed.

And I was like, Craig, can we crack the window? And he's like, no, man, I'm going to'm gonna give you my it's getting into my clothes craig jesus christ soaking through my soul and and this i'll never forget dude he picked me up in the lotus and he goes we gotta go pick up a friend of mine and i and i thought this is a two-seat car yeah there are no other seats and i laugh i i thought he was a joke and i go yeah yeah we'll put him on the roof and he goes no no we do we gotta pick her up and he used to call her black Barbie that was her name she was this beautiful young black girl who was god I'm not kidding she was wearing heels but even without heels maybe 5'11 so in heels maybe 6'3 oh wow and I go I go oh we are really picking up yeah you gotta pick a black Barbie you should

she'll love you you're gonna love her you're gonna hang with us all day but we'll get lunch this young beautiful black woman comes up to the car and i go oh you am i do you want me to get out like i'm thinking should i walk to the hotel from here right i get out of the car and he's like what the fuck are you doing and i was like what is she gonna sit on my lap how is this happening yeah and he goes oh no she'll get in the back don't worry about it and she's like i've been in the back before i'll do it and i was like please don't get in the back, don't worry about it and she's like, I've been in the back before, I'll do it and I was like, please don't get in the back I was like, can I just walk to the hotel but Craig You're making it worse, Craig, but that's so his style

that was so him He's like, come on, get in the back, baby, get in the back and this poor woman is crawling in the back I'm like, no, no, no, dude, I'm gonna walk It's a mile or so away, I'm gonna walk and he was like, no, no, no walk, come on, man It's too cold to walk So I'm like you, So I would roll into town.

So I worked there when I was in college or whatever. But then when I came back doing stand-up, same thing. But when we'd go do the radio tour, the radio shows to promote the show. Yeah, the radio tour. I know that. Bob and Tom. Yeah. And you'd hit like Johnny Dare.

Johnny Dare. That was it. Yeah, that's right. You'd hit these guys. And you'd walk in and they'd be like, oh, Jesus, here's Craig. And the whole time, they'd just rip it off Craig. I know. He'd be like, what the hell?

What do you want from me? What do you want from me? And it's not about you. At some point, you're like, am I plugging my show? Exactly. At the very end of this hour-long fuck on Craig, they'd go, and Riggle, you're going to be at the club this weekend, right? I think so, unless I should just leave.

Yo, Craig, am I here? I always hated that. Yeah, they would rag on him for the longest time. You're going to love radio. And I would do four of them. And he'd be like, you've got to be up 5 o'clock in your hallway, ready to rock. And I'd be miserably hungover and tired. I was like, everybody in this fucking town knows I'm here.

We're done. We're done. It's over. Yeah, we're done. No, man, they've got to know, man. At one time, I remember he was like, we're building a catwalk. Wait until you see a fuck. We're going to build a fucking catwalk.

And I was like, are you doing modeling shows? Why would we? He's like, no, rock star comics need catwalks. He always thought like he had this way about him that even if you knew he was wrong, he would convince you like, I don't know, maybe that's a fucking good idea. And really to appreciate Craig, you had to appreciate the fact that he ran hot and loose. Yeah, he was absurd.

Yeah, he was a lunatic. He'd been to the federal pen. He had been to, he'd been, he had lived a life. Let's just say that. He had lived a life.

He was a distributor at one point. He was a, he lived a hard, fast life, fast lane life. Yeah, dude. So if you were with him,

it was always just a character study. Yeah, no, honestly, and it was what not to do. It was kind him, it was always just a character study. Yeah. No, honestly, and it was what not to do. It was kind of, and God bless. Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. You know, the guy was always good to me. Those guys that gave me my start.

I didn't mean to make that sound like I was picking on him, but I just wanted people to know he ran Lucifer. So when you were with him, it was like being shot out of a cannon. Yeah. Well, like those guys that gave, like who are some other clubs that like gave you the shot when you were young? Like who gave you a spot? You know, like, was he one of the guys that, like, kind of put you on earlier than you should have or no?

Maybe, yeah. Yes. I will say that, yes. I shouldn't have been headlining. Yeah. And he let me. Same for me. It was really great.

He let me headline. I had, like, 38 minutes, and he's like, you're fine, dude. Yeah. You just ramble for 20 more. I think that's, I think he was very gracious about that there was a couple you know like new york uh um uh stand up new york there on 79th and broadway they were pretty nice to me ucb theater was gracious yeah slipper room a lot of new york piano room you know like a lot of put you on a little bit gave me gave me this gave me stage time what about you and performing now well, now I haven't done stand-up in, God, 10 years.

I know, but why not? Honest truth was I got Fox NFL. Yeah. And I was making enough money from that that it kind of made up for the stand-up. Sure. I wasn't making much money. I was doing club acts.

I wasn't selling out theaters or anything. But you could now, though. Maybe, maybe. But my set is obviously way too old, and it's tired. I've run it all across the country. Let's get you humming again, baby. So I got to create a new set. And I remember creating that first set.

To me, it was a beast. It took like a year and a half to get that 45, 50 minutes. It's great, yeah. And I was like, God, that, you know. So the thought of diving back in. And the thing was, like, when I started Stand Up, it was in New York, and you could hit New York City, you could hit five mics a night.

Yeah, totally. And all you had to do was jump in a cab and bing, bang, boom. You know, you could get the work. Here, I live way out, way out in the burbs. You're right, you're right. I live way out there. And so I'd have to drive all the way in to maybe get a five-minute spot at one place, and then I'd have to put my name on that.

And then haul ass maybe to a second place and get my name on that list maybe for another five minutes. So you're talking about hours for maybe a total of 10-minute stage time? Too much. In L.A., it's tough. It is. I know, but you're at a level where you could. I mean, I've said that to—we have mutual friends, of course. We have our—Sarah Tiana is probably our closest bond.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we've talked many times about you and about, you know, because your brain, the way it works, and your comedic past. I've always thought—I've said that to her multiple times. I was like, I wonder if he would ever dive back in. I have wanted to. I think you should, man. I would love to. It's one of those things, too, where I gotta, it's a gut check for me. I gotta

get, I kinda gotta get my... But isn't that kinda great? It is. I like being scared. Yeah, that's funny. I love it, and I hate it. I love it, and I hate it. But that's the best part. I know. I gotta kick myself in the ass. Rogan used to say that to me all the time, by the way. Whenever it was like, right before I'd go on stage sometimes when I was touring with him,

he'd be like, smoke this joint with me. I'm like, I don't want to. He's like, you're afraid to be scared? And I was like, all right, dude. Boy, he knows what buttons to push. But it would work because he was true. It would have worked on me. He's like, do it, do it.

It would have worked on me. It's like a fun experiment. He's like, you're comfortable, so put yourself in a little uncomfortable position and see how well you get out of it. And it was kind of like a trick of and it wasn't like substance is the way to trick yourself but it was just one little thing of him going see how uncomfortable you are

here's an obstacle let's see how you navigate it and it actually sometimes I was like wow that's fucking rad because it was heavy it feels heavy and then you're like alright I know how to do this I know how to figure this out there is something I will say what I do miss it's not the life. The life is shit.

Life is hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I did miss is the nights when you really connected. The nights when the audience was ready, you were ready, and you were speaking the same language. Yeah, man. Those were such special nights. When you're humming, it's a different vibration. What it does to you, unfortunately, is at night, I just can't cool off.

I couldn't either. Yeah, it's really tough. And as the headliner, you're the last guy. So good night, everybody, 1 o'clock in the morning, 1230, whatever it was. And then your adrenaline is cooking with gas. So you go out with the guys that you were performing with. Get food, get drinks. You get some drinks.

By the time you're at some diner at five in the morning, finishing off, and you're like, God, why do I keep gaining weight? Why am I exhausted? And then you're like, I got to calm down, so you burn a cigarette.

Exactly. It's a fucking hard life. It's tough. Yeah, it's not good for you. So I do know why you're not getting back into it. That being said. As long as they got milkshakes.

If they got milkshakes, I got a new vice. It's milkshakes. If they got milkshakes, I got a new vice. We'll get that milkshake club going. I'll of course put the link in the description below. I want to thank the Riggs for coming by. We got to golf again soon, as soon as I'm back to good health. I'm in bad back health

right now. I'm still dealing with nonsense, dude. Oh, dude, I hate that. The back is everything. Yeah, I know, and especially with golf. And I've had so many people be like, hey, can you play? And I'm like, I can't. And I want to so bad. But when we do get back, you and I are going to get back out and smack it again. Let me know when you're feeling it.

When you're feeling like you're ready. Yeah, we'll get. Let me know because it's just right down the road here, man. I know. Let's go. We'll start to get back in it. Riggs Picks is available for you to get out and enjoy right now. Riggs Picks is, uh, uh, available for you to, uh, get out and enjoy right now. We'll link it below. If you, um, if you would please look into that camera right there, we end the episode the same way with one word or one phrase. Um, it depends on how much you

want to divulge. It could be something quick. It could be something very heartfelt and meaningful, but when you're ready into that camera, you end the episode. Act a nonverbal. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You are that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful.

You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.