Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Wheeler Walker Jr.
Episode Date: November 2, 2018Santino sits down with Wheeler Walker Jr. to chat about foot dildos, how much Florida Georgia Line sucks ass and his new album WW3. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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Do you want to break that out and strum something for me?
Yeah, I'll play a song.
Girl, there's something different about you
Makes me want to try something brand new
So let's get you back to my place
We ain't got no time to waste
I want to put a big smile on your face
I want to fuck you with the light song
I want to do it all night long
I wanna see them old
titties flapping, lift that switch
baby make it happen
come on honey do we have a deal
I'll split your legs in the electric bill
I'm gonna write you a
love, love, love, love
song
if I can fuck you with the light song
well fuck I'm going green song If I can fuck you with the light song Well fuck
I'm going green
Cause your type pussy needs to be seen
So let me fuck you
with the light song
If I wanna do it all night long
Wanna see that ass
clapping, flip that switch, baby
make it happen
Come on honey, do we have a deal?
I'll split your legs in the electric bill
Girl, I'll write you a love, love, love, love song
If I can fuck you with the light song
Fuck, yes.
It's like a shortened version.
I know, but I love that so much fuck going green
i want to fuck you with the lights on it's a hit right yeah i think that's a i think that's a huge
hit i also love fucking with the lights on i found that that was a big thing like i said in
the maturing process which you know when you're when you're just hooking up you just want to just
mess around the dark it's like when you're with someone you love you want to you want to see it going in well we hook up with that we hook up with the lights
off when you're young because you're nervous about your body looks like shit usually you're weird
you're skinny but my thing is like my body still looks like shit but now i'm comfortable she's
comfortable that's right let's fucking watch what's going on yeah kids aren't comfortable
that's the thing when you're young there's a reason why you don't watch porn in the dark
right i mean i i don't watch porn at all because. Right. I mean, I don't watch porn at all
because that's the devil's work.
I don't believe in any of that stuff.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
No, I watch a substantial amount of pornography.
Although I should cut down if I'm being honest.
Whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey.
You're that creature in the ginger beard.
Sturdy and ginger.
Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse.
Gingers are pugilist.
You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. Welcome to Whiskey Ginger.
My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth right now.
Probably one of my biggest influences in comedy music as a fan.
Wheeler Walker Jr. is with us today.
Hey, man, I'm a big fan too.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate you coming.
Today, in rep of you, my guest Wheeler Walker Jr.,
we're drinking Rowan's Creek Straight Kentucky Bourbon Whiskey.
I'm a big bourbon and whiskey guy.
This podcast is all about having a little bit of whiskey.
No one ever explained to me,
because I was told as a kid that the definition of bourbon
is whiskey made in Kentucky.
The only place you can make bourbon is in Kentucky.
That's correct.
Yeah, that's kind of like real scotch is only from Scotland.
People can say that they've got like a scotch whiskey blend,
but real scotch can only come from Scotland
because it's got to come from a certain kind of water.
That's super,
it's really specific rules.
But nowadays,
this kind of shit blurs.
You know,
like I've had quote unquote
Wagyu beef out of Japan.
Japanese people will tell you
only like 6% or something like that
of Wagyu beef leaves Japan.
It's a lot.
Yeah, well it's also them telling you
that this music coming out of Nashville is country music when it's it's not it's fucking pop garbage it's good it's trash so
what can i mean where are you from by the way chicago chicago okay chicago is a great town man
yeah as far as big cities go i just i hate la man i'm here for a couple days doing press i just came
from a penthouse interview you the penthouse uh the magazine yeah was it an out digital they're
not still mail magazines are they magazine they're like we're gonna take pictures of you while we do
the interview and they just took pictures in the fucking parking lot of some strip mall
and they go it's in the valley but nor tell you you live here what yeah northridge ain't that's
a that's a fucking other town that's that's a hidden away place yeah we don't go nobody goes
up there yeah is that where their studio is? No, that's where the interview was.
It was at some deli in Northridge.
I'm just like,
so it took me a good hour.
I mean,
a deli in Northridge
is kind of a weird,
sketchy place to take photos.
Totally.
I mean, the parking lot too.
Get a sandwich,
take a picture.
Yeah, I mean,
this guy,
I'm sure is used to
taking pictures of fucking clits,
you know?
Yeah, he wants a clit,
he gets you though.
Yeah, I mean.
Is that a bummer?
Was he bummed?
No, he seemed,
he actually was like,
it's cool,
it was like a little break, you know it was nice he's like i'm so
used to seeing pussy it's nice to just see a person just see you some fucking asshole do you
think he just sees pussies everywhere he goes and everything yeah he had that look on his face just
like you know yeah he was searching for something on your clothes he had a look on his face it's
like that's why he took the job some people you could tell that's why they get into certain
industries right yeah he was like i gotta figure out this camera i'm never gonna see pussy in my life he was so hideous
looking that oh yeah he was disgusting but you know seemed like a nice guy i'm sure i would say
the pictures were fine i don't know but maybe they weren't you think that's that's actually
a really interesting point do people do people uh do people that get jobs match though you know
how somebody looks like their dog do some does someone's job match the way they look sometimes you think that's often where you're like you look like a fucking bus driver do you know how somebody looks like their dog? Does someone's job match the way they look sometimes?
Do you think that's often?
Where you're like, you look like a fucking bus driver.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, do you think-
Yeah, I wonder if sometimes they feel pressure too, you know?
Like they should be.
I looked apart.
Yeah, I gotta do it.
Yeah, you're like, I am a garbage man.
I mean, I look like a garbage man.
I should be a garbage man.
And I love trash.
I love trash.
Picking it up, giving it away, eating it.
Let me see your album.
Give me that real quick.
Let's do some plugs here.
Yeah, let's hear it.
Wheeler brought me his fucking album, which is...
It doesn't come out for a month.
It doesn't come out.
I got the real shit.
The censored, un-American, the non-censored, un-American version is...
You and Bert Kreischer are the only two people on planet Earth that have that album.
That have this?
That's fucking huge.
And on the back, you have your beautiful family, your wife, who's hysterical she's a catch she is a catch it's a it's a big mitt but
you caught it let me say this this album is ww3 which is amazing that's incredible title some of
your some of your more uh popular hits have been circulated so heavily on the internet i mean fuck
you bitch snoop dogg was like in love with that
hit yeah that was great i mean that was you know what's weird about this day and age is like people
talk about like you know in the old days it's probably like getting on the tonight show or snl
and all that shit snoop singing your song on instagram is the new tonight show i mean way
bigger than i saw i mean we saw it was like as if i played snl my albums that month like it's like
because you get the checks like six months later from album sales yeah so it's like six months
after snoop did that it was like oh get ready wheeler here comes it's snoop month who do you
think your audience is specifically my fans are people who like country music and like real country
music as well yeah you say i'm real fucking guy So who to you is an example of a popular country music artist that you actually enjoy?
Well, that's tough.
I mean.
Are they not around anymore?
Well, Stapleton's huge.
I think he's great.
Chris is good.
Yeah.
I think he's super talented.
Sturgill is great.
Sturgill Simpson is amazing.
But some of these guys are on the edge.
They're both kind of doing sometimes a little more rock.
Well, do you think they have to?
I think so.
Is that pressure from the label?
No, I think those guys can do what the fuck they want to do.
I think they're just like, why would I play country when I want to play in a bigger...
I don't want to be stuck in the country genre.
They don't just want to be country.
But I think those guys grew up listening to everything.
Sure.
It's like when you go into
Didn't everybody
Didn't you
Yeah I did
But I think that's what
Where someone like
Florida Georgia Line
Gets lost
They grew up listening
To just dog shit
What do you think
Florida Georgia Line's
Six disc CD changer
Consisted of in high school
I honestly think
It's fucking Vanilla Ice
Who I met by the way
At a kid rock show
Which his real name
Is Rob Van Winkle Yeah I met I Here's what my at a kid rock show. Which his real name is Rob Van Winkle.
Yeah, I met.
Here's what my life has become,
and I don't know how else to say this,
but before I went on stage at a kid rock show,
Insane Clown Posse's producer introduced me to Vanilla Ice.
I love ICP, by the way.
But can you, did you hear the sentence I just said?
Yeah, Insane Clown Posse's producer introduced you.
Introduced me to Vanilla Ice backstage at a Kid Rock show.
It's phenomenal.
That's the big three right there.
It's just like, what the fuck's happening?
That's fireworks.
And my band had already started.
And I was about to walk out on stage and we were opening up for Kid Rock.
And I said, no, no, no, no, no.
I need a picture with fucking Vanilla Ice.
100%.
So the band was like, you know, they're playing away for me to walk on.
And I'm backstage making sure sure I'm checking the picture,
making sure it's right.
Yeah.
You know, my tour manager's taking a picture of me and fucking Vanilla Ice.
Prior to the show beginning.
Yeah, I mean, like I said, the show, well, the show had started.
Oh, because you just hadn't started.
The band starts, and I come out after, like, one, a couple bars,
and I come out, but they had to play, like, 20 bars,
because I was backstage getting a picture with Vanilla Ice.
That was important.
Because when I was in high school, I mean mean he was the biggest guy out there i mean it
was i remember for my birthday one year i got that that album on cassette yeah as a joke ice
ice baby yeah but it i mean i really think that that's who to long answer to your question i think
that's number one on their disc changer vanilla two yeah millie
vanilli there's a lot of vanilli vanilla a lot of vanilli vanilla in there um neapolitan i think
i think there's a couple we'll whisper it but i think a couple actual black people that they
listen to no and they're just taking because i actually you think they're shame listening you
think they shamelessly well here's the thing and I hate to keep name-dropping,
but I met Killer Mike recently, who I fucking love.
Killer Mike is the best.
Run the jewels.
He's the fucking best.
And so he loved what I said, because what I was talking about was,
I really think there is some racism behind it.
When you just take the beats and the sound of hip-hop,
but you take the message and that kind of anger out of it,
and just cracker it up and just sing about beer and trucks and shit.
To me, there's a...
White people want to hear
that sound, but they can't listen to Public Enemy.
But they're ashamed to listen to it.
N.W.A. So let's floor Georgia Line.
You grab your fucking cooler,
sing about that. Your whitest
can fucking be.
So you're saying it's like a new thievery of music.
It's like a new racist thievery. I was going the new i mean i was gonna say the new elvis but i love elvis and
elvis elvis was uh elvis didn't elvis didn't steal as much as he just borrowed and reinvented well
he elvis was elvis too but you know someone had to do what he did but also he he he stuck up i mean
i've heard stories of him you know playing those you know louisiana those Louisiana hay rides where these guys would come.
Other country dudes, other small town boys would be like, what are you playing that N-word music for?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he would stick up.
He's like, man, I love that music.
Don't talk.
I love that N-word music.
That's what he'd say right back to him.
Yeah, exactly.
He's like, you don't talk about those N-words like that.
Don't talk about that N-word.
But he really understood where his music came from.
Yeah, he wasn't a fool.
He knew.
He knew.
But I think maybe you're right.
This is a great theory.
I think a lot of these new pop country artists,
they're kind of covering up for the fact that they wish they could really, you know, be the other side.
Yeah, I mean, for some reason they found Nelly to be the one guy who crosses over.
Nelly raps on like 50 country songs.
Country Grammar was his like popular album.
Oh yeah, I guess.
It was all hip hop.
That's weird, yeah.
But then after that album
he went actually country.
Yeah, I bet it's not really,
I mean I'm sure it's not.
Well, to him.
But what Killer Mike
was telling me,
he's like,
because he lives in Atlanta,
he's like all these producers
I know are fucking
moving to Nashville.
You're in Nashville now.
Yeah, but he's saying
all these hip hop producers
he knows
are moving to Nashville
because Nashville wants these hip-hop beats,
and country's the last format that's still buying physical albums.
Right, that's like the final frontier.
Yeah, it's like anybody here got some beats, we can grab the last 200 bucks.
I love the idea of a bunch of black dudes moving down to Nashville
and hanging out with a bunch of country dudes.
Yeah, I remember a buddy of mine told me he was out in L.A. producing right before he moved to Nashville.
And he said that the Nickelbacks producer came up to him and said, I'm going to move to Nashville and do country.
And the guy's just laughing and laughing.
I'm like, first of all, what the fuck do you know about country?
Second of all, you're a Nickelbacks producer.
That's the guy who does Florida Georgia Line.
Same guy.
Yeah.
Nickelback. Florida Georgia Line. Same guy. Yeah. Nickelback.
Florida Georgia Line.
I mean, he's made billions in making shit in all kinds of genres.
So this guy's just taking shits all over the place.
Yeah, he just opens up his ass and they just give him billion dollar checks.
Ah, here's a million.
He just keeps shitting out millions.
I wish I knew how to take a shit like that.
I've been trying, man.
But yeah, I mean.
But you're making better than shit.
This album, I'm so excited.
I'm genuine.
I'm being very genuine.
I think what you've done so far is so incredible.
I'm excited to hear.
I'm excited to hear this
because what song do you think on this new album
defines what you really wanted to do with this project?
Well, this is my first love album.
It's a love album to my wife and to my son.
Yeah.
Mainly my son, just because, you know, I want him to have,
I mean, he's probably not going to,
I'm not going to let him listen to it until he's 30 or 40,
but it's my first love.
It's a lot of love in it.
So I was, I think the track that I always gravitate towards
is Still Ain't Sick of Fucking You,
because it's like, it's love looked at through my fucked
up brain my lens you know it's like that's i was you know i was talking to my wife and i was talking
with bird about this the other day it's just like man i can't believe i'm not sick of fucking you
that's huge and she's just like that's i think that's love how long has it been
it's a couple years with her uh but we've been only married for a year and a half but yeah we we've been together for actually two and a half years when do you think is the typical cutoff for
people to get sick of fucking their significant other well that's what i'm saying the old days
it was for me it was fucking right away an hour yeah before i came when i come oh before you even
know yeah yeah you got to get out you're mentally checked i was like you know i'm sick of this shit
coming's not even fun then. If right before you come.
I'm like over this and then I go, oh, shit.
That's a labor of love.
Yeah, it's just like I'm in too deep now.
So now.
Depends how long.
But now it's just like, you know, I enjoy being with her.
And then Bert said the same thing.
He's like, you know, I still love fucking my wife.
I wonder if she loves fucking him though.
That's the caveat.
Doesn't matter at this point.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he owns her now. She's a little in too deep too fucking him, though. That's the caveat. Does it matter at this point? I don't know. Yeah, he owns her now.
She's a little in too deep, too.
Yeah, sad.
So, yeah, it's just what I look at as my batch of love songs.
Because there was a lot of anger in the first two records.
And I was going to say, I don't know where it came from.
I know where it comes from, just being pissed off.
But I was like, I'm happy.
My albums were always about the truth
and singing my fucking truth.
Your truth.
And I was like, if I'm happy and I'm in love,
why not make a record like that?
It doesn't mean it has to be clean.
I would have loved clean songs to be on the, you know,
do the radio.
Tell me about Anal and the Dishes.
Well, again, back to, you know, the outlaws,
you know, life at home.
And it's like my, the missus was bugging me to the dishes i go how
about give me some ass give me some anal i go and she's like all right ain't on the dishes i go
these songs fucking write themselves yeah anal the dishes is a great track so you ended up doing
the dishes you get yourself some anal um i'm not sure if i got it but um oh you'd remember
well i think i think i not a joke i think i did after the dishes
i went and wrote the tune you could you were so you were so into writing the song that was taking
a back seat i think what happened was later that night i did that's yeah but um but yeah it was
just you know she's literally a lot of these songs are just things my wife said like a couple like
but the the next single which is i don't know when this will be released but in a few weeks
or maybe this week when this comes out,
there's a song called All the Pussy You Will Slay,
which is a ballad to my son.
Well, but he's not going to hear it until he's 30, you said, you think?
You think 30?
What's an appropriate age to start listening to dad's music?
Well, if your dad's me, probably 30.
But the internet is already crazy as it is.
I can imagine in 16 years from
now he's gonna find it so what when there's track on here i sucked another dick last night is that
about you there's got to be a metaphor yes yes um there is you never sucked a physical dick
no i blacked out and been told i sucked dicks um yes I sucked another dick last night is about me.
Yes, okay, I was talking around it, but.
That's on stage.
Is it a metaphor for you playing on stage
and sucking a dick, or is that just?
No, here's what happens.
Sometimes I black out and get a little crazy,
but also, that pisses off Nashville the most.
Nothing pisses them off more.
Right.
I have noticed you throw in in your songs.
I, yeah, go ahead.
You do, right?
So you could talk about
fucking chicks and hanging out and being a dude being and then you'll sneak in a little cock
sucking reference there yeah i mean like sometimes even when i do interviews a lot like for example
right now right now you'll say like did you really suck a dick and i'll just say yes whether it's
true i'm not saying i didn't you're leaving it up for them to decide no i'm saying i did oh you did just to piss people because nothing i don't know what it
is about fucking nashville and country music is it homophobia is it homophobia is that what i think
it's got to be but do you think it's because they wish they could suck a dick i mean those two dudes
in florida georgia line i thought that's all they did but apparently they don't have one good song
about sucking dick by the way yeah that's what i'm saying i'm writing the songs for them yeah
they should they should take a note but this is about dick. By the way. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I'm writing the songs for them. Yeah. They should,
they should take a note,
but this is about you.
So let me ask you this now.
That's a good transition for something that I like to talk about on the show.
Now is my,
I like to talk,
the whiskey ginger thing came about because I would share such fun stories with my friends about old days when I drink a little bit,
but not like I used to.
And you,
are you sober now?
I'm pretty much sober.
And the other thing too
is like right i'm on a press tour right now when i whenever i don't drink anymore i don't party
when i travel well it's too too taxing and to you tour too yeah it's taxing i cannot party when i
tour i can't but when you're at home also when i sit around the house i i can i can watch myself
does she drink does your wife drink oh yeah your son obviously uh your son obviously will have that
in his blood then, you know?
Yeah, but I'll watch it.
I'll watch it.
I'll be good about it.
So have you, when you, prior to meeting Christine,
were there times when you had too much when you were out on the road
and you regretted doing it?
Is that why now you don't want to get drunk on the road anymore?
Yeah, I wouldn't even say physical shit, but just doing stupid shit, you know?
Like there was times you know like i find myself in mesquite nevada one time doing whippets under
and i woke up under a pool table oh shit yeah are you are you single no no this was years and years
and years and years ago okay this was this was what i find even worse is when i like it's not
physical cheating but going out on the road like getting drunk and signing a bunch of girls' tits and taking pictures, put on Instagram.
What would Christine say about that?
She'd get fucking pissed.
She'd piss if you signed some tits.
I mean, because I didn't actually get, I didn't cheat on her, but I just, you know.
Signed a couple titties.
I signed a couple titties.
And I, listen.
Have you ever had to sign really small tits?
Yeah, it's hard.
That's so funny.
Why would a girl do that?
I've seen that before.
A girl with very small tits. Yeah, it's hey can you sign you know you want to sign your breast
plate yeah it's just like you want to can you it's like sign a poster and then they ask you to sign
a stamp it's like i don't have room here man where if i was sober yeah like then i would get in we'd
get arguments about it but like she would say you know i don't want you posting pictures you sign
tits on instagram and in my in my head's like, that's part of my job.
And then I think about it.
I was like, no, she's right.
You made that a part of your job.
In the entertainment industry, we were like, it is a part of my gig to get a blowjob behind this dive bar.
Exactly.
It's like, you know what?
People are going to listen to the records whether I sign tits or not.
That's actually true.
And also, there's been a lot of tits that have been signed over the years.
I don't think you're breaking ground by signing tits.
Yeah, what happened.
Why do women want their tits signed? been signed over the years i don't think you're breaking ground by signing tits yeah what happened i think why do women want their tits signed i'll be honest i think well
first i think what happens is it's a slippery slope you do a couple and then my my mistake
was posting it uh you put it on instagram once you put on instagram foolish yeah people want
to do it and it becomes a thing then you've made a trend yeah and it's my fault and then
sometimes it got uncomfortable when the dudes wanted their girls to get the, you know, when they would like, I would never sign if the guy's like, hey, sign my girl's tits.
And then, you know, come home and then.
Fuck my wife and play some music.
Yeah, exactly.
Have you had a proposal to come fuck someone's girl?
Yes.
And them being there, right?
Yeah, I think that seems like a weird thing, like in the South.
I don't know what it is.
People like watching people fuck their wife.
I mean, I would cry.
What's that called?
Cucking?
Cuck?
Isn't that cucking?
I don't know.
Okay.
Think about it like this.
What if Christine one day down the road came to you and said,
I want to get piped by someone else, but I want you there to watch?
I mean, I can't imagine her doing that.
But, I mean, I couldn't do it.
You couldn't sit through it.
Yeah, I mean, there's no way.
What if she said the reverse?
What if she said,
I want to watch you fuck another woman?
What would you do?
Then we'd at least have something to talk about.
Yeah, then it's a new conversation.
This is a discussion.
Yeah. I mean, I'm open.
I would probably, at the end of the day,
you know, say,
I don't think this is a good idea.
A good idea.
But...
It's not.
At least we discuss it. Yeah, yeah, but I think it A good idea. But. It's not. At least we discuss it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think it's right.
But it never works out.
This whole open relationship thing.
People have that.
I know friends that are like, yeah, we fuck around and we don't talk about it.
That's it.
Yeah.
I know a lot of, not a lot, but I've definitely met musicians who are like, we have an open
relationship.
And what they're saying is, I have an open relationship.
I do.
I fuck around.
Yeah.
She hangs out.
There's no way she's sitting at home going out and partying.
No.
So tell me this.
Nashville is home now.
You're born and raised in Kentucky.
Yeah.
You did live out here for a long time.
You lived in New York.
No, I never lived in New York.
Never New York.
I fucking hate New York City.
Do you like it there?
I mean, I've never lived in New York City.
Because I've got to do some press there next week, and I'm just fucking dreading dreading it well it depends on what part of new york you have to go to i guess
probably i don't know wherever you have to go anywhere near time square probably that kind of
shit that's probably the press rather shave your dick off and go serious yeah any of these fucking
corporate places are going to be in a terrible way but look you you're is it a small town in
kentucky because i don't know no i'm lexington lexington's big yeah compared to a lot of people
and nashville is kind of a big small city yeah well i grew up going and my mom's from nashville small town in Kentucky? Because I don't know. No, Lexington. Lexington's big. Yeah, compared to a lot of people I know.
And Nashville's kind of a big, small city.
Yeah, well, I grew up going,
and my mom's from Nashville,
so I used to go to Nashville all the time,
so I watched it go from nothing
to like, you know, people now,
I was talking about Northridge,
people now complain about,
you should see the traffic.
It took me 10 minutes to get across town.
Yeah.
You know, and it's just like.
But Nashville's become this super mecca hub of music.
Everybody wants to be there
that makes music.
Well,
they're also now,
you know,
the people,
you know,
they got all the agencies there
and it's becoming very corporate,
you know.
So do you have that kind of shit?
Do you have agents and managers?
Yeah,
I got all that.
I mean,
the thing is,
you just gotta.
You need it.
You have to.
What a sad world.
It is.
You need a middleman to do the thing.
You do all the things, and then you need someone to be somewhere off the side.
I don't know if you guys have this, but the one that, I mean, I like the dude,
but the one I didn't know about is they told me I needed a business manager.
I go, listen, I'm not dumb.
I can pay all my shit.
No, you need a Jewish money guy.
That's what they said.
But that's not what it is.
Here's what I'm telling you.
So, like, I got to pay. I need someone to pay my band. Yeah, they say. But that's not what it is. Here's what I'm telling you. So like, I gotta pay,
I need someone to pay my band.
Yeah,
and you don't want to have to do that.
Well,
no,
but here's where,
it's fucking crazy.
If I play a gig in Texas,
I gotta,
we gotta pay Texas taxes.
So if we play in Nebraska,
like,
my dude has to pay,
like,
at the end of the year
when we do taxes,
we file in fucking 40 states.
You don't do, like, an independent contractor where you file out of one place?
No.
You have to file with the state, right?
Yeah.
So I'm saying, like, I don't know how.
I literally don't know how to do it.
You have to just get somebody else to do that shit.
So this guy who takes, you know, and he's been taking care of my money.
I'm not mad at him.
I'm just saying, like, they don't tell you that this guy exists.
Right.
And they also don't tell you that it's literally
impossible to to do it without him you know it looked like a little he's a little cute money
magician basically a little tiny yeah i mean and he's like he pays all all the bills you know how
many people are in the band um it rotates yeah but it's bass, guitar, bass, guitar, drums, pedal, steel, and me.
So there's five of us total.
Does anybody come and go?
Do you lose a guy once in a while?
No, we usually have that.
Would you ever hire a woman in your band?
I have one right now.
What instrument?
My guitar player is a female.
That's huge.
And my old bass player was female.
I like having women in the band.
I was going to say that's big because I feel like most country bands don't have women in the band.
They don't really and they should.
But like on the bus especially, it's like guys are kind of on their best behavior, you know.
You guys tighten the top because they're around.
Well, I think when there's a woman there, I think farting goes down.
Yeah.
Jerking off probably goes down.
I think jerking off goes down.
Pooping on the bus.
Does anybody poop on the bus?
Well, I just had this conversation with Joey Diaz.
I'm like, I was arguing with him because you've been on tour buses before i was explaining to him you can't take a shit on you can't poop on the bus but there's always a couple
of pigs that do he was claiming you can't he's like and his argument was sound he was saying
ralphie may rest in peace had his own bus and he knows that he shit on there i'm like
well well that's that's you know that guy he probably shits night he probably used to shit a bunch probably shits in the car yeah he
probably shits while he's just up on stage he just has to hold it somewhere in the middle but i'm
saying like you can shit on the bus the same way you can you can shit in the fucking you can shit
at a mcdonald's you can shit at mcdonald's on the table you can you can but it ain't gonna go
not a good idea but you can't shit on the bus
i mean like i think it's probably because we rent our buses usually probably a thousand dollar fine
they got to clean that shit out not to mention obviously there's nowhere for it to go so yeah
place so it's gonna stink do the women do the women do the women that go that when they go on
the road with you do you find there's a big disconnect after the show's over, or do you guys all hang out?
No, we usually hang out because most of us are in relation, I'm married, most of them
are in relation.
Okay, so then it's kind of safe.
So we just kind of, it's a nice hang afterwards.
There's no sketchy shit going on?
No, usually there's one or two guys that are just like, let me, you know, let me go check
it out.
It's like, dude, you're a fucking drummer for Weirdo Walker Jr.
They're not looking for the fuck.
They want to suck my dick, not yours.
How often do you get it thrown at you?
Is it every single show?
Or is it some nights are lonelier than others?
I think it's there if I want it, but I don't know if it's every single show.
Have you ever had a deal so good that you almost didn't turn it down?
Say that again?
Have you ever had a deal so good where a girl was like, look, I'm the hottest girl in fucking Poughkeepsie.
I want to fuck you.
I know you're married.
I respect it.
Well, that's the thing with me is, you know, ain't nothing better than my wife.
I would not do that to my wife.
She's the best.
Yeah, I mean, it's like I'm not, I can'm at the a i'm getting older now this album's about
getting old falling in love settling down it's like i don't want to trade what i got for one
night that's a good man you know i'm a good i'm a good that's a smart that's a smart response
that's smart but you probably get that too out on the road yeah but you know comics is different
than musicians like musicians have a different cut women are in love with the idea comics would be
more just because you're more in like i'm on a stage kind of far away from you're probably more
in the midst of them and the way i know but it's almost too close for comfort there's a good
distance that you have between them that's why people are more attracted to musicians i feel like
i'm saying they can't get to me is my point i know that's why they want it dude but do people people
got to come up to you and Yeah, they do a little bit.
But girls are, but women, women are.
Plus you're on TV, so they think you got, you're loaded.
They want to like.
That's a hard, well, people just think you're a billionaire if you've been on television before.
But also I think women are a little bit more skittish about talking to someone after a show.
Women are smarter than men in the sense of a guy would go up to a girl that was a female comic.
Be like, you're fucking hot.
I want to take you home.
A guy throws, men throw themselves at people desperately.
Women are a little bit more protective of that thing.
Yeah, I don't see.
I mean, I think you're right about that.
Women, I mean, first of all, they are smarter.
Yeah, they're smarter.
But they don't, I mean, there's the crazy ones here and there.
But for the most part, they don't throw themselves at you.
No, I mean, listen, big rock stars, like huge, huge rock stars,
the reason that that whole thing started about them getting all the girls
and panties being thrown on the stage,
that's, I think, because the age gap was huge.
I think rock stars were having like 17-year-old, 19-year-old girls.
And Jimmy Page, wasn't he with us 14, 15 years?
Yeah, like a child yeah yeah that's
the thing is i think rockstar rockstar's got all this love and people didn't realize they were like
kids that loved them it wasn't like women yeah can you imagine me too during the fucking fuck
during zeppelin i mean an endless that's four that's four bill cosby's yeah at least at least
without the i mean without the pills that. Yeah, exactly. They're taking the pills themselves.
So I think, I think, I think women aren't.
I knew we were going to get there comparing Zeppelin to Cosby.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
Zeppelin was a huge Cosby fan though.
Do you know that?
They loved Bill.
Did they?
No, I have no idea.
I know Cosby loves Zeppelin.
He did.
Because he.
He did.
He quoted from a stairway at the trial.
Yeah, he did.
He did. That was, that was his opening. That was in his the trial. Yeah, he did. He did.
That was in his opening argument.
I feel like you have to.
There's a lady, you know, I don't even know the lyrics because they're all...
I can't hear most of them.
Yeah, it's all very mumbly.
That's a big thing, you know, like mumbly rap.
That's a new thing that's out.
Is there mumbly country?
Well, I mean, there's a lot of fucking mumbling dudes who sing country but i mean like is there dudes that get that get that are successful with
i don't think mumble country's a thing but it'll be in a week it will be second second you said i
guarantee you what but you know how the old thing about um you know whatever hot new york and la
makes its way to the south 10 15 years years later. It's so true, man.
I mean, like, the beats you're hearing now, I mean, that was a producer I was talking to
who was a really good country producer.
He was complaining about this fucking pop country sound.
He's like, it'd be better if at least it was the current sounds.
He goes, these guys are so behind.
He goes, they're literally using Milli Vanilli style beats.
They're taking shit from 20, 30 years ago.
Yeah, I mean, they're talking like, you remember like Terrence Trent Darby? Totally.
They're doing that shit with country. It's like, what the fuck are you doing,
man? At least get with the
times. Who do you hate the most in music?
Not as a person, as a musician.
Probably Yodel Kid. Who's that?
The little kid from the... Oh, the yodeler.
Yeah. Someone asked
me, I did a radio thing this
morning, and they're like, so how'd you get your start? I go,
you know, I was
at Walmart yodeling just for free and the guy fucking i get
next thing i know i'm on camera then i'm fucking at stagecoach then you're you yeah and they go
they're like that sounds familiar no no that's my no that's your story that's wheeler walker jr you
were in that little kid i and i was actually gonna do and i got talked out of it probably a good idea
i was all ready to go you know those new things that are really big right now those battle raps yeah like you know m&m's going back and
forth totally one yeah with uh not yeah what's his name what was the dude's name oh machine gun
kelly machine gun kelly which is the best thing ever happened to him yeah oh my god now he's
famous so i was gonna do a battle i was gonna do a battle i don't know how to rap i was gonna do a
country battle rap about no just just a takedown of not what's that called
battle what's it called a diss track why don't you do that i was gonna do a diss track about
yodel kid but my manager was just like listen you've taken it real fucking far we put ads on
pornhub so why stop now because he he saw some of the lyrics i was talking about you know michael
jackson should take you to neverland and all that kind of funny i'm in well i mean the song was
called neverland like you know i was it was just like it was he's like you can't
you're gonna you know you can take it so is it because he can't defend himself is that what he's
saying like he's not he's not a man he's just a boy i go well i mean we then we had a lot the
problem is that i get started talking serious you know like you're like i'm gonna come find you and
no i'm sorry i'm saying we had a serious talk about it he goes do you really i go obviously
i don't hate the kid his grandparents are throwing him into it it's not
his fault right then you start talking to me rationally and then you then it's all gone does
he does he have his own songs fuck no florida georgia line wrote his wrote his hit missed call
for mom hold on do we should we call her no listen i put her Through enough shit I'm not gonna Do you think you have
Oh yeah
Well she's come to shows
And she's
What does she say
When she sees you
Perform some
Like what is
Oh Bangers by the way
Bangers
Oh Bangers was good
Bangers is a great record
It's a great record
So when your mom
Comes to the show
And she hears
Fuck you bitch
Or she hears
Well here's the thing
So I played
A place called exit in is where
i used to play all the time yeah my favorite club in nashville because it's you know that's actually
a place where waylon all those dudes played and you know the exit in yeah yeah i mean that sounds
like a gay nightclub well yeah i guess but it's but it's not no and then she so she came to that
one of the shows there and i remember because i had my shades on when i performed because that's
my look but also i thought the lights bothered me so had my shades on when I performed because that's my look. But also,
the lights bother me
so I wear shades on stage.
And I could see her.
I'm watching,
I'm playing Fuck You Bitch.
And I see her.
I've never seen this look
on her face.
It's like,
proud.
There's a crowd there.
They're buying t-shirts.
They're singing along.
Right.
The weird,
I could see every emotion
in her face was proud.
He's successful. He's selling records face was proud he's successful he's selling
records he's selling merch he's selling tickets but also this on the other in mixed in there was
what the fuck did i do yeah what did i she was a good mom like what did she do but she didn't do
anything you're just being true to what you really feel on the inside yeah i mean yeah the girl who
broke up with me when she broke up with me that particular song was well before I found my lovely wife.
That's the emotion I felt.
I was like, well, the country music,
they used to just say this shit.
And it's 2018, why can't I fucking say it?
Why can't you really say it?
Also, we've been saying, and music has been metaphorical,
I mean, it is metaphorical,
but music has been using snide ways
to get away with saying mean shit all the time.
I mean, that Shania Twain song about like, is that Shania Tw twain key in that guy's car in the back of your pickup oh yeah yeah is
that shania twain am i i think so but i think it's maybe it's carrie underwood i guess oh maybe
i get all those i get all those that shit all the same but i mean right she's like
maybe next time you'll think before he cheats she's talking about she's talking about fucking
up a shit but she's really really talking about ruining a man.
What she really wants to say is... That's part of my whole philosophy.
My thing is literally, it's 2018.
We don't have to use metaphors.
Yeah, we can say it.
She should have said...
I mean, she did say, I'm going to fucking burn your car and all that stuff.
But she should have just really gone deep into it.
I mean, what she's saying was, fuck you.
I'm going to fuck up your life.
Fuck you.
I hope you die.
But she needs to sell records.
I don't need to because I don't have that... know i'm not but you're still but you are still
selling records selling i am but i don't need to sell jeans and i don't have a beer sponsorship
and all that shit if you could have one of those commercial sponsorships what would it be
if there was one thing you were like you know what i wish i had well i tried to get uh
i tried to get a dildo sponsorship and then i'm friends with the people at fleshlight if you want
me to hook you up with them.
Fuck yeah.
I think I talked to Fleshlight.
They were out of Austin, Texas.
So I was going to.
How do you know them?
They used to sponsor South by Southwest.
This is wild.
And at South by Southwest, the first couple of years that I think I was doing it, they would hand out gag bags, like gag gift bags.
And they would have dick sleeves in all of them.
And all the comics were like, oh, this is so funny.
But everybody was like, I'm going to go to the the hotel i'll see you guys for the shows tonight i'm not gonna fucking i'm
not gonna talk these losers in a hotel hallway they gave us all like dick sleeves and uh so
what's the flashlight do you stick your dick yeah you could you like jerk off and it feels like
i mean as close as it can i guess you know what i mean like it feels like you're so it's different
than your hand way better than your i mean way better than your hand it's it's actually amazing i want to give you their
contact yeah i just i just want i just want to get one they'll send you so what happened here's
what happened to me so i get this company reaches out called heel dough uh heel dough and i was like
so they show me their demo what it is is it's this dildo that goes on the back of your heel and you
the girl like kneels down while she's like sucking your dick and the dildo goes in and out of her pussy oh wow and i'm like you're in
wheeler walker jr my fucking face on the side of the heel though they show up at a gig and they
give me here's a box of heel does and i'm like fuck yeah man shake your hand we're in business
i open up it's just it's all these like little heel contraption. I go, where's the dildo?
The guy goes, we don't make the dildo.
We just make the contraption on your heel.
Guys, you got to make the dildos too.
They should come.
No, they make.
So I go, I'm not having a sponsorship.
I mean, the handshake is not an official deal.
I go, I'm not having a sponsorship.
I'm not selling shit at my merch booth with like a little, basically a piece of sock that holds a dildo.
No, I need a dildo.
Yeah, you can't be dildo not. Dildo not included. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, dildo no i need a dildo yeah you can't be dildo not
dildo not included yeah exactly yeah dildo has to be included no i go you you got you guys
fucking go back to the drawing board yeah you know and have they fixed their mistake no i never
heard from them again because they they just want to make i'll bet that piece of plastic is 50 cents
and they probably sell them for 10 bucks a pop yeah and the dildos probably the expensive part well dildos are pretty expensive i've gone into sex shops with my lady i feel like surprisingly
you know what's you know it's a good you know it's a good little substitute add to your sex
life that's not that expensive a cock ring a vibrating cock ring really yeah they sell them
that and they're silicon so they're not like cock rings used to be hard like i think like
i always thought of them as like wedding rings yeah they're like yeah they're not like, cock rings used to be hard. Like I think like. You always thought of them as like wedding rings. Yeah, they're like, yeah they're penis wedding rings,
but now they make them out of silicone
and they have vibrators in them now.
Which it's incredible.
Here's what worried me about the cock ring is,
I don't know about this, but when I'm like,
like right now I'm sitting down here.
I'm not saying I'm not excited,
but like if I'm just sitting down at a restaurant
and I'm at my smallest,
it would, wouldn't it feel uncomfortable then?
You have to take it off.
You can't leave it on the whole time it's not like a wedding ring you do
take it off that's my question I mean you know what you could though you could
take you could have a silicon ones big dick you got to be you got to be a well
are you a grower not a shower I'm a grower not okay yeah if you lose a lot of
a lot of length when you're soft that it would you couldn't wear it all yeah we
just pop off just slide right off but I mean it'd be funny to see it slide out
of your pant leg while you're walking away from something.
Yeah, like it just goes on my fucking...
Like you lost your content.
We're playing a show, and it's just like all these fucking rings fall on my fucking pant leg.
By the way, are you coming down to the show on November 29th?
November 29th.
Where is it?
The Novo.
The Novo Theater.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm there.
That was easy.
The 29th, you're at the Novo Theater, right?
Yeah.
And then where else are you taking yourself?
I have seven more dates this year, record release shows, record release party shows.
Four on the West Coast, we do Santa Ana 28th, LA 29th, San Diego 30th.
I think, I want to say Phoenix December 1st.
29th, San Diego 30th.
I think, I want to say Phoenix December 1st. And then Nashville December 6th, Chicago December 7th.
Go back home.
Where are you playing in Chicago?
We're playing a place called Joe's on Weed Street.
Okay.
And then Milwaukee on December 8th, which is a really cool club that I know Jeffrey Dahmer used to find victims there.
That's a great place to pick off people then.
Yeah, but it gives me the creep.
Yeah, but that's kind of cool though. And they showed me all the hidden tunnels and shit down there to get back to his house well i don't know what's
going it's just a weird it's called the rave people from milwaukee will know it is it's a
really weird place he because he had he's the one that like uh he took young gay boys slept with
them and then put him in his wall right didn't you put him in the wall you know i saw i was with my wife watching um a documentary about him he what he used to do he would i'm this
i'm not fucking making this up he would drill a hole in the dude's forehead and then pour you
know whatever like the cosby pill is you know in liquid form put it into their literally put it
into their head but they were already dead at that point. No, but they were still alive. It was just a hole.
So they said this one victim,
after the hole goes in his head,
he had bangs and he walked down the street
and went to the cops.
And because he was so fucked up,
the cops didn't know what was wrong with him,
didn't see the hole in his head,
the bangs were coming up.
They brought him back to Dahmer's house.
Brought him back.
And then Dahmer ate him, yeah.
I mean, not in front of the cops
But like Dahmer's like
He waited till they left
Dahmer's like
Oh fuck he got away
My secret's out
And the cops just bring him back
Cops are like
Your secret's right here
And it's safe with us
Yeah
Eat people for two more fucking years
Keep eating people
And he put them in their
And he put them in the walls
And shit right
He lived at his
Did he live at home?
Is that what it was?
It was something
It was right next to Marquette's campus
Too where the college is
It's like right around
I'll bet he would fucking love Florida Georgia georgia line he was a big fan actually
yeah before we even knew it was just demos yeah he knew he had all their all their all their uh
other tapes all those street tapes he was their first manager was he really i didn't know dom
rose for the journal yeah that's incredible you know he he was he introduced florida to georgia
line he introduced florida to georgia before that, they had no idea they existed.
Yeah, exactly.
They didn't know.
And they were like, no, right at the border is where the shit gets made.
Right there you guys should meet.
Do you think, is that where they live, on the border of Florida-Georgia Line?
I think that's where each one puts their dick across the line.
They just touch dicks, you know.
That's how they got their name, yeah.
That was it?
That's really how they got their name.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
I mean, I say that.
You speculate
No I have
I could show you documentation
That's privilege information
I could show you
But you got to share that with our audience
I think that's incredible
You're teaching me a lot of stuff about music
And in the music world
I really appreciate that
So when you go home and listen
What's your thing?
What's my genre of music yeah
what's your main thing i couldn't tell you i have one specific one i'm being genuine but i say
overall the dominant music that i listen to is probably rock okay i like rock i mean like i like
uh like what'd you listen to in high school probably a lot of shit i listen a lot of shit
in high school a lot of trash a lot of actually you know what i listen to a lot of classic rock
yeah in high school because the dad generation trash. Actually, you know what? I listened to a lot of classic rock in high school
because the dad generation kind of transfers some of that stuff.
You see all this shit with this new Greta Van Fleet thing,
that horrible Zeppelin ripoff band that pitched.
Greta Van Fleet?
Fleet, I think, is their name.
It was this really famous review that went viral on the internet.
Pitchfork gave their album 1.6.
And it's a Zeppelin. But they're a young
band. They were supposed to be the band
who was going to bring rock back. And Pitchfork was like
fuck that. But Pitchfork's like you don't even
have a 2. Have they reviewed you?
No I don't think they touch me. I don't know why.
Would you want them to? No
because I don't know. I'd be scared of what I do to them.
What do you mean? You don't want
their bullshit? Well no I mean when they give me
a 1.6 I ain't going to take lying down like you read a fucking mid fleet right
you're gonna go back after them oh yeah do do people do that typically in the business do they
do that or do some people just let the thick that you just let it go because we get so much
criticism on our end i don't give a shit well yeah i think i think i think band like those guys are
kids from michigan so they're probably like man we're swimming in it we got money
beer money
we don't give a shit
we don't give a fuck
fuck them you know
what do you think about
what do you think about
a guy named Post Malone
do you know who that is
yeah I don't know
cause he tries to dance
in the country world
a little bit
yeah I saw him jamming
with Dwight Yoakam
yeah he did
yeah
people like him
people love him
in the country world
for some reason
but you know
my theory
goes back to my whole
theory of music
is
you know
in the
you know the old days you know, and the,
you know,
the old days,
you know,
Elvis scared your parents.
Yeah.
And it was the Beatles scared your parents.
And then it was like,
you know,
Marilyn Manson scared your parents.
And then we're running out of things.
Now it's like,
do you think you scare some kids parents?
Oh,
definitely.
But I also,
the parents sometimes listen to,
but I'm saying like now,
like the parents grew up with Run DMC,
Beastie Boys.
Yep. So now they need a guy with fucking tattoos under his eyes.
Something crazier.
They just got to up the crazy factor.
Like Gigi Allen.
Remember him?
Do you know him?
Oh, yeah.
He shit on people.
He was shitting people's mouths and he'd punch them in the face.
I think, but he could never go mainstream.
But Post Malone's mainstream.
I know, but don't you think that someday that might go mainstream?
Gigi Allen was just a beat the curve.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we're going to a place of chaos.
Yeah, I mean, we're definitely going there plug some stuff right now plug
websites and all that stuff so people can follow you and all that i'll go to wheeler walker jr on
all my socials all i care about is one thing buy my new record buy the record ww3 pre-order itunes
amazon you can get autographed copies on my fucking website throw on a t-shirt i'll throw
on a fucking koozie we even have packages where you can get a fucking
autographed guitar. You know that?
It's a real guitar? It's not the same guitar you play.
No, it's an Epiphone. That's still a good guitar.
For $300 you can get
an autographed guitar. I forget what's in it.
What kind of guitar do you play?
I use Gibsons and they actually
gave me that. Because it says your name right
on the frets there. Yeah, and Gibson's been
really good to me. Gibson makes great
country guitars.
And Epiphone's a brand
off of Gibson,
so we got...
They're good, too.
Yeah, Epiphone's...
So go on the website,
check out your Twitter
and Instagram,
and follow me on the website
because the website
has all the tour dates
and all that stuff.
Do you perform in Nashville much?
But when I do go back,
we're going to link up.
I haven't been.
We'll hang out then.
We'll hang.
Well, thank you for coming, brother.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it, man. Much love, bro. We'll hang out then. We'll hang. Well, thank you for coming, brother. I appreciate it.
I appreciate it, man.
Much love, bro.
Thank you.
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