Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep481 - The Andrea Brower Interview

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

It's another special "emergency" episode. Stuttering John was going off on his former moderator Andrea Brower on his show on Saturday. Andrea wanted to respond so we had her on today to react to some of the SJ clips about her specifically. John is still upset that Nikki B., his former moderator that he raised hundreds of dollars for, wouldn't do John's bidding. John somehow checks every box on the definition of a narcissist. His former mod's husband is in the middle of chemotherapy and John's upset that she didn't follow his every order. After Andrea leaves we are joined by Ian Hawk. I didn't really know what I was getting myself into with Ian on the show. Seems like he's messing with people IRL which is not something I condone. I just knew that John had "called the police" on Ian and was interested in that story. Support us, get bonus episodes, Vic and Hannah pics, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You know what I miss being this? What are you talking about? The one who should apologize. That was aouseroo. Couseroo. Slapperoonie. Mental illness can literally drive you crazy. It's show time. W-A-T-P-W-A-T-P-W-A-T-P-W-A-T-P. Hello and welcome to an emergency episode of Who Are These Podcasts. We have two special guests lined up for today's show. Starting with former Sudden Ring John moderator and current guest coordinator for Hellsmarks.

Andrea Brower is going to be joining us. John had a lot to say about Andrea on his show this past weekend. And so she wants a platform to respond and what better platform is there than who are these podcasts. And then later in the show, we have nefarious discord or Ian Hawk Joining the program as well now. I thought that Andrew would be here by now. She is not But I assume she's gonna be joining us momentarily. I hope that is the case I want to thank a random task for becoming a YouTube member. Thank you very much for doing that So where I'm gonna start as we're waiting for Andrew to join us is the beginning of John's show

on Saturday. John's been doing this thing lately. He's been having some fun with threatening information about my family to me, which is really bizarre behavior. It's very odd what he's up to. Let's check out this clip. We'll get into it.

And then you got Lady Kamar. Oh boy, here's up to. Let's check out this clip. We're gonna do it. And then you got Lady Kamar. Oh boy, here's a guy who, I mean, Carla, people in Glass House's bride. I mean, what I'm gonna show, I know so much about Lady K's family. It's more than anybody who won them. Okay, well, who cares? I know about his sister,

Gretchen isn't talked to the family really. So now he's gonna go through with whatever faxes he's gotten from whoever. And this idea that he even starts us off by saying, I know more information than people would even want to know. Well, then what are you gonna do with that? The only reason why information's valuable is if people want that information. Having dumb information that what it cares about doesn't make it valuable to anyone.

And it certainly doesn't scare me when he brings up my sister's name. I know about his sister, Gretchen, has been talked to the family really. I know about his father. You know, I'm not going to say much, you know, but I know what's going on. And, you know, I wish his father well. I'm not like that. You know, I'm not going to sit here and I wish his father well. It's not as far this fault that Lady K. Martin decides to attack my family. Every chance he gets and you should see.

I attack John's family, every chance I get. What the fuck is he talking about? So now John's gonna bring up this email exchange that we had. I brought up on my show, but let's hear his side of this, and then I'll read you every word that was written in these two emails that went back and forth. My family, every chance he gets and you should see the audacity of his email he sent to me.

I mean, this guy, this guy must have no self awareness of his own content. Okay, I have no self-awareness of my own content. John emailed me with the subject lines seriously, man. I don't go well. Any wrote. But if you continue, I know more about your family than you would like me to know. Stick to goofing on me. So I responded with this.

No problem. I actually don't goof on your family. You're accusing me of trashing your kids, but watch for yourself. I do know such thing. And I put a link to the video that's behind the paywall so he could watch that where we read his adult children's speeches at their mom's wedding. And I said, I think the problem is people give you false information to get you worked up and you believe it. Cheers, Carl. But John is saying, I'm the idiot here because I'm just constantly trashing his family. I do know such thing. I don't know where you're

getting that for why I do know where you're getting that from. Shuley's wife's crystals or whoever the fuck is giving you two bucks to feed you information. And he needs you want to hear you believe. And no one would know that better than my guest here. Andrew is joining the show. Let's see if I could get this work incorrectly. Andra, how's it going? Hey, Carl. Hey, good to see you.

Good to see you too, finally. Yes. So, Andra, you're on here and I appreciate you reaching out to me because John really went off. And you used to be a moderator for John before he left the internet last November. And it was you, Benny Locke, and of course, Nikki B. And I believe the three of you were all kind of working at the same time

moderating John's channel. Okay. So John's got a problem with all three of you. And he puts you all on blast. I have some clips that I want to play for you. Let me start off with this because Ryan Sherman gets brought up on this episode as well. Now Ryan's been on this show before. Ryan was also a moderator for John

and then realized what an asshole he is. Just not easy to deal with. It's very difficult to deal with. And everyone who's a part of his life and a part of his show eventually finds their way out of there. I'm Richard O'Jet is someday. We'll figure this out, I'm sure, but let's see what John's saying about Ryan and Andrew here. I'm going to have, oh, and I'm Ryan Charmin, dude. Look, dude, you gotta stop the obsession with me seriously. Like, you are a fucking bipolar poll elunitic okay sometimes you like normal

and then sometimes you're elunitic and injury brawa so in in John's world if you're giving him money you're being normal and that if you're saying information about Johnny doesn't want out there then you're being elunitic although he might be out of someone with Ryan Sharman, Ryan's not being no today. This is kind of funny. And as you happen to see when John had his landlord show up, Debbie, to take the stove out of his apartment. Yeah, he was talking about that. Yeah, it's funny because John didn't clean the stove. He didn't clean around the stove. And you could hear these guys come in and they're walking on top of all sorts of shit probably empty cans and stuff like that as they're trying to grab this thing. So Ryan messaged me and he says, I googled a few keywords and got John's property manager's name.

Send her a texting and firm, she was the property manager and she called me. I thank you for calling out John for being a disgusting slob and she laughed. She said she didn't realize her conversation had aired and I told her the clip of it already had over 5,000 views. I apologize for bothering her and she said I actually made her day. She kept laughing about the situation and asked me to send her the clip. I know it was dumb to bother her but I thought it was funny how she reacted. Obviously she remembered that incident of seeing that disgusting house that John was kind of apologizing for. Not really. Well, you wouldn't have cleaned it either. No, right? Why would I clean it? You guys are just taking it away. It could have cleaned

it, John. It would have been nice. It would have been nice to be able to do that. So Ryan is up to some to no good. All right. Let's get into you, Andrew. That's enough about Ryan for now. What, you know, Ryan, Ryan knows what me and Nikki and Benny went through. Yes. So, I'm Sean. Yep. So, it's not anything new that we've experienced. I'm sorry for the light.

But this is traditional, John. And I went back and forth with John all weekend on email with him trying to get him not to talk about Nikki not to and it's you know I never sent anything bad about him none of us did. Well he's gonna disagree with that we'll get into it. Let me play a couple clips and I'll let you react to what he's saying Okay, and then sometimes you're a lunatic and Andrea Brawa You are a fucking work not a work. You're a piece of work Holy shit are you stupid Nicky me Nicky me Nicky me Nicky me

Fucking hell That's his new catch phrase. You never used to say that back when you were modding though. No, the reason why he did that was I had said in the email, the reason I'm writing you, other than the fact that I have fake Andrea's in the chat and they're not me. I'm blocked from all forms of everything from him.

Right. Except for the email, which I wasn't even sure I was gonna be able to get through. And I had gone through muttering, Jay, I had go through various sources to try and get a hold of him to say, hey, I need you to stop talking about Nikki. She's not in a good place. Please stop.

And I couldn't reach out to him. So I, on a lark, did the email. And the first thing I said was about the fake Andrea's and then I said Please don't talk about Nikki. She's not in a good place. She's dealing with her husband Please do not mention her anymore. That's where that came from. Yeah, so as soon as you tell him that there's something that bothers someone Or they don't want him to do he uses that heizes that. So then because you said don't talk about it, I was yelling her name out. It's the same thing.

I had a private conversation with John and I was talking about how back when I worked for a company, I was doxed and I had all these people tweeting at my company and I'm linked in and all these different social media platforms trying to get me fired. And I said, you know, John, there's a reason why I don't use my real name, my real last name. And it's because this incident happened. People try to get me fired. It was kind of a big deal. And with that one piece of knowledge, now, John,

every time he says my name, it's to spell out my last name to make sure he's weaponizing. Oh, I have information on you. I know your sister's name. I can spell your last name. It's like, you're a dick. You're just being a dad's son. You're just making yourself look bad when you do shit like that.

Right. And that's typical John. Yes, it is. He's eating. You know, he's always the victim. And yet he's lashing out at everyone. It's like you can't have it both ways. Right.

Well, you know, and that was the other thing that was said in the email, you know. She's dealing with this. She can't deal with you. There's a lot of different things going on, but he didn't care. Right. Because it's all about him. It's all about him.

Well, yeah, let's, let's run through these clips. I have a lot to talk to you about because this has got very interesting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I expected, excuse me, I expected a lash out. Yeah, I didn't expect this kind of a lie. Yeah, this was something else. He's pissed. Yeah. Now I never asked angier Broward to be a moderator. Nor did I ask any of these fucking lunatics to be a moderator. So that's not true. Okay, I was going to ask you. So he did ask you to be a moderator.

What had happened was Benny was already a moderator, Nick was already a moderator. He needed an extra moderator. I guess some are in the loop either Sean Orion had left. And he needed another moderator. Benny suggested me, I know her, she'd already does work for how, does how. She's really good at what she does. So she gave,

Betty gave Nikki my number and that's how that happened. And before the end of the day, John was calling me, asking me, and my, my response was, I can do it, but how is my first priority? Yeah. That, that is my deal. I've always said that. How is always my first priority? Yep. That, that is my deal. I've always said that. How is always my first priority, no matter what? Right. And I let him know from the get go if you can accept those terms. Fine.

I'll do it. Why? So he's lying about this. And listen to this revision of history after he says that. They want to be a moderator, be a moderator. Give them a sense of fucking being, I guess. I don't know. I don't personally need a moderator. Give them a sense of fucking being, I guess. I don't know. I don't personally need a moderator.

In fact, I fucking hated having one because they always fucking got rid of people for making an off-color joke when I'm like, come on, man, don't fucking, don't block them. I have my buddy. We're like, why are they blocking people for just making like, you know, if I was going to block everybody in this fucking shot,

I'd have 10 people in it. That is rich right there. First off, John needed moderators. He still does, but he needed them. And he blocks everyone. He's constantly blocking people. The main thing when I started, the main thing Carl was three people.

Surely you, before people, surely you, Cardiff and Anthony Gumiak. Okay. At no cost was I allowed to let you guys in. Okay. Okay. The second thing was the trolls. You know, do not let any of the trolls in.

Well, most of the chat was anyway. So it was like, you know, if they, I kind of like, unless they got rude, I kind of let things slide, but if they started getting rude or they started spamming or stuff like that, then they got rooms. So what he's saying here is not true at all. It's not true.

The fact that he's going, I don't even want moderators. Well, you didn't have to have them. You he was actively asking people to moderate his chat for him. Obviously. So now he's lying, making this up. Okay. So this is him talking about the email that you sent him or the emails. Andrea Broward writes me, John, well, she's something she morphed into call. John, the people in Latin America, it's not me in Benioleco, you blocked that string, remember, that's not us. And stop texting Nikki B.

She's going through a lot. She doesn't need to get your texts. So I'm reading this and I'm going, hmm. Okay. I go dummy. I'm not texting Nikki B. I'm blocked, remember. What a nice guy.

Another way to communicate to his people. And that's not true either. It may be true from his main number, his block, but John, as we know, has Google accounts, Google number accounts, and he's used them. He's used them on Shuleys, I'm sure he's used them on you. And I meant that as any form, we were alone on any form. And he has me blocked on Twitter.

He blocked me on Patreon. And I never got reimbursed for that. Oh, yeah, we'll get into that. Yep. He's blocked me on, well, I ended up blocking him on YouTube. I ended up blocking him on a bunch of different things, and he blocked me on Facebook. So, you know, how else am I supposed to get a hold of you?

Number one, number two, when somebody asked you nicely, and I was not rude, I was not mean in the emails, and asked him nicely, please do not contact Nikki. And if you're not about what he's saying, but it's his version of what he said. Well, right. And the dumb thing is, and so John goes on to explain that people can spoof numbers and maybe it's not him

who's messaging Nikki. But either way, if Nikki thinks that John's contacting him, then that's what she communicated to you. So why is he calling you a dumbfuck or a dummy? It's like, no, you can, you can respond and say, listen, you're misinformed here. I actually am not reaching out to her. That wasn't me. You can be polite about it back.

It's a no way for you to know. Oh, no, the whole, you know, how he's talking now is what he said in the, yeah, in the emails. Ricky 3225 bucks. Carl, you got to stop doing these emergency broadcast while I'm on patrol duty. Crime is legal again. Talking now is what he said in the emails. Ricky, 32, 25 bucks. Crow, you gotta stop doing these emergency broadcasts, while I'm on patrol duty, crime is legal again. Oh, wow, what area are you working on?

Let people know they can have at it. Ayo, one, oh, one, two, five bucks. Need someone to ask John what his plan for this info is. He doesn't realize family is only a threat when they hit your guts like his family does. Thank you. I know. He keeps saying glass houses. He's like, you know, Carl, you, you, uh, read these

speeches, but you have family members too. Like, yeah, I do. I don't care. It's, we all do. Devil's story in two pounds. I'm here for Ian Hawk, uh, J.C. Hi, Carl. Watch Melkie. Who can forget this five bucks? I don't care what anyone hi, Carl. Watch Melkie. Who could forget this, five bucks? I don't care what anyone says, Carl.

I think the frosted tips look great. They're not, Andrew, just look like I frost my hair. Do you think I frosted tips out here? All right, don't add to that, I guess. Never mind. I don't fronk,on of dye my hair, sir. The black cast, Christian Blatt, Andra looks like Kendi if she had finished school.

Not sure about that. A penis rinko with five bucks, regarding his dirt. Do you think someone is trolling him by feeding him more BS info, or is he just lying? He says it with such confidence. It's in raging. Everything he said so far has been accurate. So, yeah, everything he said has been accurate, but it's his version of what he says. The way he's acting now or the way he says this is what

he said in the emails. Well, he's just giving you a summary of what was said in the email. This is my favorite right here, Andrew, because right after he calls you a dummy and explains, and John's whole thing now is like, if you don't spell a word correctly, think she's an idiot, even though he miss spells words all the time, almost every tweet has a misspelling in it, grammar errors, it's unbelievable. But John loves to act like everyone else is a dummy. And then right after he says that, watch this happens. So, so she goes um, so then, all right. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm fucking, so, so she gets, this guy gets dying in her husband. But he's not a husband, he gets dying, us with cancer.

He's such an idiot, he had no idea where he was going with that. It's like, and this dummy writes this email, it's supposed to work in correctly, and then, uh, uh, uh, brain just frees us up. Kinda loses your momentum, would you do that, Jeb? All right, so now we're talking about Nikki, and what a great friend Nikki, Bee and John were back when she was the moderator. And they get married because I said, you

know, I said the Nikki should get married. Oh, it was John's idea for her to get married. Wow, it's amazing. They were already planning. He has a matchmaker, something such an idiot. I don't think it tells people what to do with their lives and that it's like patting himself on the back. I mean, you plan to get married anyway. I think they were gonna go to, you know, to your office and I go, just get married. Now, I talked to Nikki almost every day.

My mother would talk to Nikki all the time. We all did. She was a friend. She wasn't only a moderator. She became a friend. And I loved her. I did. Sweet woman.

Very sweet. Why are you yelling? So I did this canciting. So I go, you know, I did this cancer thing. All right, we'll get what's more into that, of course. This is all stems back to you when John was trying to raise funds for a beloved, cheddar's beloved ones, chemo treatment. So we'll get into that.

You know what? I'll say if you want to donate, again, if you're going to super chat, if you're right, if a Nikki B, you know, then I'll take that money and I'll send it to you. Oh, Betty, look, I want to send me the link, Carl. All right. All right. I will do that. I will send you the link.

The thing about the thing about this whole thing, okay. Is. Nikki did not want it because she had had so much trouble with trolling so much trouble with that whole thing going on in the midst of her husband dealing with his cancer, she's just over it. She didn't want any more problems. Right. And he could not get that. No, John thinks it's always a treat to hear from him.

This is the thing, John constantly is calling people harassing them, bugging them, calling them too much. I went through this a little bit when you had my number. And it's like not everybody wants to talk to you all the time. You're kind of annoying. Do you have Benny Locos email? It looks like I don't. If you can send, if you can email today.

Let me double check and make sure it is exactly her. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, good point. Let me double check. That's a good point while you're doing that. I'll get through these real quick. Reverend Schitztain, Powerful for poop or two bucks Carl in 2024. I'm bringing I'm bringing on Mo Wistas Mo

They spelled you know, it's Canadian Joey docks Ian hashtag justice for hawk FDG. Yes, I think that's what Ian wants to talk about is Joey. See, he was not happy with me having Joey. See on point, double points. I didn't have mine. I surely did, but Mr. and Mrs. F everything two bucks, Hawk time. He's not here yet, but when he gets here,

we'll have a convo with Ian Hawk. All right, while you're looking through that, Andrea. I just, I just I just message or some waiting for an answer. Okay, beautiful. So this is really interesting because John claims he did all this stuff for Nikki B. And this has been going on for a while. He was raising money for her through super chats. But his mom was also sending her money or sent her a hundred bucks, but he also sent an iPad mini.

And this is the thing, something slipped on this episode that all of us are scratching our heads over. Not only that, there's more! Wait, wait, there's more! They got it. Denikki B says to me, John, do you think you can get an iPad or something? Cause my husband, you know, he's undergoing chemo

and he would like to play with something. Well, get it, get it. I do anything for anybody. So I go, all right, I start looking around. I get a mini iPad. I bought my buddy a few beers, few pints. I send her my own time, go to post office, mail it, and mini-ip it. So I know he said an iPad mini, but apparently he bought it off a guy at the bar in exchange

for beers. That, that was news to me. It's the weirdest thing ever, because John is trying to say how selfless he is, how amazing he is, and then it turns out he did almost nothing He was actually taking credit for the time it took him to go to the post office I mean that was on my time that I went to a post what else you have to do John He's nothing else going on so later on in the show he brings us up again I

find her and and I pet a mini-ipit and mail it to her. And out of my own money, you know, I figured how many pints I bought the guy. And what a weird way to get it. My mother sends her a hundred dollars. What a weird way to get an iPad.

So not knowing how many pints you had to buy for a guy in order to get it. It doesn't seem as generous when all this sort of turns out, you just had to buy a guy a few pints in order to get it. It doesn't seem as generous when all this sort of turns out, you just had a buy a guy a few pints in order to get the iPad for someone. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Okay.

That is not that is not any. That's not okay. Thank you for checking on that. Andrew, see look at me being gullible. Ready to send the link out to Betty Loco. All right, this is John talking about why everybody got upset with him back in November of last year. What happens? I say, you know what? I've had enough of this double verse. I'm going to leave, I'm going to go teach long term because I've just had a dump. All the hate, all the lady K hate, all the shitway, all this nonsense in the cesspool of ridiculousness.

So I, a grown man, make a choice. I'm gonna vanish. And I did. But, Andrea Brower and Betty Lkeau, they can handle it. They don't want me to just leave. So they start going in house, chat, and everybody else's chats that they can untrash me. Okay, a couple of things I want to ask you about this clip specifically. Now, first off, John decided to just get off the internet. He took pretty much took his channel down.

Took all the videos down, pause Patreon, didn't make any announcements or anything like that. In fact, on October 31st, he did a show where he said, we'll be back tomorrow at noon, whatever it was, and we'll see you then. And then never showed up again. Now, I would imagine he would reach out to his moderators who are there for him every single

day doing this. You're not getting paid. You're volunteering your time to help him out. Wouldn't he reach out to you to say, here's the deal. I'm on hold. I don't know how long it's going to be, but just for now, I need to get out the internet. Also, that's a lie too. The whole thing is like, I just had to get off because of all the hate.

John has come back and made this the only thing anyone talks about now, because that's all he does is talk about me and Shuleen, Barbara, and Paki, and KC Armstrong. All those people he hates, and he ties one of that stuff. Make sure they keep talking about him, make sure this thing keeps going and going and going. So he loves this, this is what he's doing, he got purpose. But why did he not just reach out to you and communicate this to you?

What did happen was after that show where he said, I'll be back tomorrow, all of that. After that show, he texted me and said, I'm taking yours and Vinnie's wrenches because at this point, Nikki was already gone. She was already out. Okay. So it was just me and Vinnie.

Can you pass it to Vinnie? And I said, yes, I will pass it along. Could you, and I even said in the text could you please tell me what's going on? Wait, can you explain what do you mean he's taking your wrenches? What was that? He like like surely you'll know this when you've got moderators in your it's the owner of the YouTube that has control over the wrenches over who's gonna moderate. Sure. So he, he not, Nikki, not anybody like I can house chat, I can't even do it.

It would have to be how or the producer or whatever to do that to get rid of that wrench or get, take it away from the mod. So only John could do that. So he was going to take our little, the little wrench icon off of our name, okay, meaning we couldn't do anything in the chat. Got you were vulnerable. We couldn't do anything in the chat. So if any trolls came in, he was screwed. We were screwed. There was nothing we could do. Sure. Yeah. So he communicated that to you and what else did you ask him?

Why, what was going on? I can't answer. Can you please tell me what's going on? And all he said was you'll see tomorrow and that was it. Oh. There was no more communications. So how hard would it have been for him to just say, look, I'm taking a break. I mean, he could have lied to you, like he lies to everyone else and say, he's writing for a trivia app,

or whatever the alley wanted to do. He could have communicated something to you. I would think that his mods would be the people he would communicate to and just say, hey, I know that you work with me every single day. I mean, at this point, you're on with him. What, six days a week? Yeah.

Six days a week. You're hours a day. You're working with this guy. And he can't even communicate with you. What his plans are and what he's doing? Okay, so that me and in a normal world, that's what would happen in John's world. No shit. Never happens.

So then he accuses you and Benny loco of going into other people's chats and Trashing John, you want to react to that? Repeat that. I'm sorry. He accused you of you and Betty Loco, trashing John in other people's chat rooms or chat. What had happened was at this point, this is after he did that three stooge's video, something that he played. And then that was it. We didn't hear from John. Mind you, he left the Patreon up. Mind you, he's still was getting super chats. Okay, so are the monthly subscriptions on YouTube. Okay.

Okay. So people were asking me, well, what do we do? What do we do about, you know, the money? What do we do about all this when they come back? They're asking me and Benny. Right. For the answers and we couldn't tell him anything. So in one of House chats, one of House sparklers

that is also in, was in John's chat asked me in the chat, what do I do? I'm paying this money, what do I do? And I said to her, I'm sorry that happened to you. It's wrong of him to do that. Please DM me and I will, we'll continue this conversation, you know, and that's what he got mad at that because he saw that he had that as a screenshot. He saw that. It's also unread it. I don't understand how that's trashing him. Right. He thinks that any mention of him is trashing him for some reason,

just like that email I read, do earlier. I'm like, I wasn't trashing your family, John. You can watch the video right here. And he comes on his show and he goes, this guy has no self awareness. No, I literally did not trash it. Shuly, myself, producer Chris, Lucy type box, we did not trash your family.

We thought the speeches were lovely. not trash your family, we thought the speeches were lovely. We think your family is lovely, instead of the many, many times. Alright, so now John is talking about his very man at Nikki B, because apparently once he saw that you guys were talking about him going away in the hell's chat or whatever it was, he decided that he needed Nikki B to message you in Benny Loco to stop talking about him. This is so convoluted and dumb. You would think I'm talking about a seventh grader, the way I'm explaining how this is all going down, but this is what

he's saying, because at this time, Nikki B's husband is going through chemo treatments. And in John's dumb mind, he thinks that the excuse to why Nikki didn't do the thing he asked her to do is because she was caring for her husband, but that's not what this is at all, which he proves himself. So it's one of those things. John likes to be ignorant of the situation purposely.

So he likes to fight this argument that no one's fighting him on. You know, he repeats the shit over and over guys. This is the beginning of that. What happens? I stopped to carry on my life. I was working at Stephanie Miller. Oh, he's talking about when his dad was going through chemo. So he now is explaining how amazing he was as a person. I still have to work. I still have to text people. I still have to eat. I still have to shit.

You know, I mean, I still have to drink. I still have to breathe. I still have to drive. So, why would you say drinking drive so close together? That's weird, all right, whatever. I'm sorry, because it's all the time. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Why would you say drink and drive so close together? That's weird. I Still have to drink I still have to do blow from time to time and we come on So I

Text Nikki B. This is all I do Hey, Nikki do me a favor could you text? Andrea and Banny and just tell them to shut the fuck up in the chats. Now how long would that physically take? How would it go? Andrea, then please stop trashing John in other chat rooms. Okay? Send. That was about four seconds.

So John is turning this into, there was a time restraint on Nikki's on. She couldn't do this because it would take too much time. Nikki never said she would, it would take too much time. This is, he's making this up. He's changing the whole argument here. Every time he's like, she could have just said this, it would have taken three seconds. She didn't want to. In fact, John admits that in this next clip. That takes all of 10 seconds, maybe. That's all she had to do. And considering, after everything I did for her,

is that asking too much? She refused. Yeah. She did not refuse. Well, she refused. She refused. And in the email that we went back and forth all weekend about, I said to him, I said,

John, she's with her husband and she's working. But she doesn't want to do it. You're balancing two different things. But the whole point though is that John is barking orders of someone to do something for him. And he's saying, I did these favors for you. Now you have to do this thing for me. She didn't want to send that text.

She could have sent that text. Definitely, for me. She didn't want to send that text, she could have sent that text, definitely, all right? She didn't want to. This is the, he needs to communicate with you. Why is it communicating with you through her who wasn't even a moderator when he went away? And that's what I said to him in the email. You know, you could have just messaged me. No, No shit.

No shit. It didn't be for right. And this is because he wanted with John. And I know you know this is this is true. I know surely knows it's true. And I know Vince knows it's true. Because Vince has said this on air. Why do you keep calling me when I don't answer the phone? Right, yes. John let's slip all the time. He's like, I said this person ate tax in a row and I said, Alex Stein, 10 tax in a row,

he never gets back to me, then stop texting him. And that's John saying, if you don't do what I want you to do now, I will bug you to you do. And that's what he was doing with Nikki. And at the time, she was done. She was done. Yeah.

At this point, they had gotten results back from is testing. She didn't want to deal with him. She was still dealing with the trolling. She was just done. Yeah. And so she finally explains to John that John is a narcissist This is something that we all know was a fact that argument was John is still struggling with us

Then she sends me this whole Fucking spew of how I'm a narcissist So wasn't about time was it John? She was able to send you a whole email about how you're a narcissist There's nothing to do with time. So I don't know why you're making that argument I just assisted all this because I'm only thinking of myself I'm only think projection, huh? I'm only thinking of myself Let's bring it up one more time. I

Donate and money, okay, so then he goes to the list of things he did for and it's funny too because earlier Let's bring it up one more time. I donated money. Okay, so then he goes to the list that he did for and it's funny too because earlier he said, and I did all of this not expecting anything in return. Well, no, that's not true. Now you need a favor. Now you're calling in your favor and you think that she owes you something. You just said it. I did all this stuff for you and now you can't do this thing for me.

That's not why you do charitable things for people expecting favors and return. You do them because you want to do it. You want to help people, idiots. Right, right. And in the back of Nicky's mind, I don't think that he ever on the back of the mind until later on, that, oh crap, I, you know.

Well, and the way, I know that there's going to be signs. You don't think like that when you going to be a sign, you don't think like that. Right. You're dealing with the prices. You know, Andrew, the way he explained how this whole thing went down, he insisted on doing the stupid super chat, raise money, because Nicky was just like, no, I don't want to do that.

Well, let's do this thing. I don't want to do that. Like, she didn't want anything to do with this. She wasn't looking for publicity around it. She wasn't looking for a handout. And John's the one who decided he had to do with this. She wasn't looking for publicity around it. She wasn't looking for a handout. And John's the one who decided he had to do this wonderful, virtuous thing that he thinks he did, which by the way, he didn't want her name out there because she's gotten dogs so bad. So and she just did not want the name or anything out there. And she was very adamant about that with him.

Even before he started talking about doing this charity charity. And look at what happened. Now her name is out there. Not stop. And we're going over a year later. And it's still happening. And this is what happens. Whenever John tries to do something nice for someone, it always ends up being the worst thing. Exactly. You do not want to get anything going with John because he will turn on you and it'll be a prick.

And remember this whole thing that he's mad about isn't about anything that Nikki did as far as being a mod or being a friend. Right. It is because she didn't text that text to me and Benning. Yep. And that's when it comes down. Check this out. You talked about that right here. I got beaten up by the internet for it. Pocky, lady K. Martin, shit way up. And every other show beat me up saying it was a fake cancer charity. Did Nicky be come to my defense? No. She let me hang out there to dry. See, the thing that John's understanding is that I don't know

that anybody thought John was collecting money and not giving it to someone who needed the money. That's not the point. You can't say donate money to me on this charity's behalf, and I'll give them the money. That's illegal. To do, we were explaining that what he was doing was illegal, and very dumb, because if I give the money to John to then give to the beloved Chatter's beloved one, then 30% is gonna take it out if I'm using windows,

and even more if I'm using an Apple device. So it's a really bad way to donate money to someone who needs money. So it never made any sense way to donate money to someone who needs money. So it never made any sense to anyone. That's why we made fun of you so much, Jack, because you're an idiot for doing it that way and explain it and go to another person. And he didn't get that. He did not like that what like over his head.

I know. He never understood what we were talking about, but he thought that all of us would have gone away. If Nikki B would have just come out, who did not not want the publicity she didn't want her name out there. No, he's like she should have came out and said something like no, she told you wasn't going to do that. She didn't want her name out there. So I just sent I asked to to send a one sentence text. That's it. This is what I'm not a year and a half ago. Two years ago, husband's still

alive. Just one text. That was a, that tells you everything you need to know about John. He goes, and husband's still alive. He didn't even die, and she couldn't do this thing for me. Wow, wow, John. He has no conception of, like, you know, real life. Like, he's a no-assist. He's a no-assist. When dealing with somebody, when you're dealing with somebody, that, like, my husband passed away, it was sudden. Yeah.

I wasn't thinking in that moment about anything else, except for the fact that my husband just died. I need to get in that moment about anything else except for the fact that my husband just died. I need to get down to where he's at. I need to meet with these other people. I need to do this, this, this, and this. You don't think in that realm. And if you got somebody that's dying of cancer that's going through chemo every single day and you're meeting with doctors and you're taking them to doctors appointment, your mind isn't what am I going to do for John? Right. And she's not he hasn't worked for John for months at this point. And she didn't ask for any of this. But this is what John is a narcissist because in his mind,

I want you to be doing him favors and we should all be getting square with John. It's like John, she you're not in her life anymore. She's moved on from this. Okay. She's not going to this. Okay, she's not gonna do you favor. That's not her job. And actually I have this perfect isolated track here. I'm the narcissist. And I'm selfish. All right, I like that.

I'm gonna keep that on the board. I think that's pretty good. Okay, so, Andrea, this is the big moment right here. Because you have joined a very exclusive club. I am in it. Shulies in it. Blind Mike a very exclusive club. I'm in it. Shuley's in it. Blind Mike just joined this club recently. You are now in. I heard about blind Mike.

You are not about that. Cardiff, Cardiff's in it. Benny was in it. Yeah. You're in the dumb fuck club. Angie Brown was, well, John, why don't you just ask tell me? No, because you would probably listen to Nikki. You wouldn't listen to me because you're a fucking dumb fuck And then the thing about that right there. That's not even true. How do you told me?

I know No, I know that that's what's so crazy about all of this is he needed Nikki to do this thing that she wasn't gonna do that He could have easily done himself and then he says yeah, but if I had done it, it's like fucking Wizard of Oz or something. It's like, why did you tell me all along? I could have just slept my slippers together and gone, oh, you wouldn't have believed me. God, don't try it. Maybe I would have.

Jesus Christ, John, you can't, you can't claim to know how people would respond to you reaching out to them and communicating with them. And the thing of it is, you gotta remember, Carl Carl on that day before that three-stuget thing. He had texted me to tell Benny that he was taking the rinses away. So he'd already communicated with you on something and you responded. Yeah, it's okay. So this is just insane.

But anyway, welcome to the dumb fuck club. Here we go. Nicky then refuses to send it, calls me an artist, says I'm selfish and blocks me. Yeah, well, that's what you got. All right, this is John being purposely ignorant and trying to make the conversation about something that it is not about. And she can't just send a quick text. Really?

I'm sorry. I don't care. If I was going to a chemo, I would still be able to send a text. You still have to live. And I understand, lost. I bored with my father died.

I get it. I fucking cry when my dog dies. This has nothing to do with you crying when your dog died. John, this has nothing to do with that at all. Nikki doesn't want to do you this favor, maybe she feels like she shouldn't. Maybe she feels like she, as, here's my hot take on this one, Andrew,

and you can tell me if you think I'm wrong about this, but maybe Nikki seeing what happened, how John just went away. People are still getting charged for November on his Patreon and YouTube members. Maybe she thought, yeah, you know what? I don't blame Andrea or Benny for saying whatever they said on the internet, because John, you probably deserved it. You should have communicated with them.

At that point, she wasn't even like dealing with John. She was out of that world. We got because at that point. But you know what I mean? No, Andrew, if someone sent me a note and they said, Carl, you got to email Vinny Paul Wino and tell him to stop doing this thing. And I don't know anything about it. I'm not going to do that. I don't know what, why would I do that? I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what you think they're doing.

I don't, I'm out of this. I have nothing to do with it. Leave me alone. She was done with him after that argument that they had yeah, she was like done and she told him basically fuck off Yeah, yeah, no, I mean he mentioned that thing. Okay, so this is the last clip I have on here that I want you to react to That was definitely but she couldn't do one thing for me. So fuck off Andrea Brower. Nikki be, Nikki be, Nikki be, Nikki be. Oh, there he is, weaponizing it again. Good job, John. You're really winning over the audience with that. Nikki be. Oh, they'll be, they'll be an email.

They'll be an email today. I'm sure. I'm sure. That's how, that's how much I think a you, a unique you couldn't have done that one fucking thing for me. Said the narcissist Jesus. Jesus. You know, you anything, asshole. And you know, and the whole, the whole thing besides the fact that he wanted her to text and I know there's people out there in the chat because I'm getting texts saying

the chat's being brutal in both shows. We didn't tell the double verse or we didn't tell anybody of a certain people when we felt it was right to say something because of the way that John acts. What you guys see now on a daily basis is what we, all of us mods, Sean, Ryan, Ryan and Sean,

I think, and Nikki got the worst of it. Yeah. Okay, Benny and I. Okay, so what you see now, what you in the double verse see now on a daily basis is how John is. Yes. And we didn't say anything because John was doing the political show. It was a different form.

It was a different way for him to get something different out. It, well, you know, so we didn't disclose that, you know, part of being a mod or part of being in something is no, you know, when to say stuff and you know, when not the same stuff. You know, I've had these communications with you before. I've had these communications with Julie. Yeah. There are times I've said something stuff to Julie that, you know, I'm just so frustrated, I'm over this stuff, you know, I'm just so frustrated on over this stuff, you know, I'm dealing with my friend who is going through this stuff. How do we battle this thing with John?

You know, it's very difficult to deal with. And he thinks that people owe him. John doesn't understand what friendship is and how it works. He thinks that there is these different people are on different levels. So as soon as John feels he's on a higher level, then you, he can treat you like shit and it's okay in his mind. I think you learned that early on in the Howard Stern days, when people would do him favors all the time because they wanted to get in with the Howard Stern show. And so, John will never understand that you can't treat people like this. Especially people are just trying

to help you out. I bet Hal Sp Parks never talks to you like this. No. I'd be willing to bet Hells probably a really polite guy and a nice guy behind the scenes. Yes. So you could be a celebrity, you could be a personality, you know, those are treat people like shit. And I deal with different personalities. I'm sure you do.

You know, I just don't mod for how. I do other personalities as well. And none of them, none of them treat me the way that John does. You hear that John? And I get it, I get it. I was married to an alcoholic. I totally get it.

Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. I can play chess better than John can. All right, we finished up this clip because he's got some things he says that you're doing. And all I did was go away. And then Angie Broward and Benny Look

are going in all the chat rooms. Oh, John owes us all an apology. He owes everybody Patreon money. I put my Patreon on pause, by the way. But they're making these false allegations. Somehow I owe her an apology. Everybody Patreon money, I put my Patreon on pause by the way. But they're making these false allegations. Somehow I owe her an apology. So John calls this false allegations.

What John did is he paused his Patreon but everyone got charged for November. And John likes to pretend that the November charge was for October's content. It is not. The way Patreon works is everyone gets charged, it's changed now. But back then, everyone gets charged the first day of the month and that's the money you pay to have your membership through the end of that month. If you cancel it any time during that month, you still have access until the next charge comes through. So John pretending that he did know people money is ludicrous. You did owe people money. And you got to remember the subscriptions.

He kept the subscriptions on YouTube going to until November. Yes. Okay. So this happened at the beginning of October. And by the end of November, depending on where your thing is in the subscriptions, if you start your subscription on the 15th of the month, the 15th of every month, your subscription goes on YouTube. Most people know this. Right.

Okay. So if your subscription is for the 30th of the month, you've got a whole month or month and a half that you're still getting charged for it. Right, right. And I'm not saying it's a ton of money. I know that these are like $5 subscriptions. You're still getting charged for it. Right. Right. And I'm not saying it's a ton of money. I know that these are like $5 subscriptions.

I'm not going to sit here and say, John needs to pay out. No, but there were a lot of people that paid by the year. Oh, well, that's a good point. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, on Patreon, you're going to discount. You're going to discount. Yeah, if you pay for the entire year up front, you're going to discount. I know a lot of people do that with WTPs, Patreon.

So yeah, that's a dick move right there. And the fact that John goes, why do I owe anybody anything? Communicate with the people who have been helping you out for all of these months. Just communicate with them. Let them know what you're doing. And you know, just to say,

hey, I don't know what I'm gonna do yet. I got this job. I'm gonna be doing that probably full time. I don't know what I'm gonna come back. Anything. Just to communicate that with you. So that you aren't dealing with all these people going, what's up with John, where did he go?

And you have to go, I don't know, I don't know what's going on. It makes you a dumb. I said this when my friend Ken Otto, and I had our show, I had gotten like every day I was getting DMs, every day I was getting text messages from people. And I finally on

Kins in my show I had said, look, whatever's going on with John, I don't know, but when he comes back, he'll say something. I remember that. I can't help you on that. I even said it on my podcast. You were very nice about it.

Yes. You were very gracious. I can't help you on that. I was never rude to John I was never mean to John. It was Benny loco. What's mad at him? Yeah, Benny loco still is mad at it. Yeah, it's rightfully so but I never said you know, I don't it was always I don't know when he's coming back when he comes back He'll speak his truth and he'll tell what's going on right? I can't help you with you know take it up with John Or take it up with patreon or take it up with YouTube. I can't help you with, you know, take it up with John or take it up with Patreon or take it up with YouTube I can't help you on that. I'm sorry it happened to you, but I can't help you. But you shouldn't be running customer support customer service for John anyway. That was not Anything that you should have been having to do and of course people reached out to you because John was nowhere to be found on the internet

By the way, sorry to hear about Ken Otto. I know. Yeah, things are not going well for him. We got the word about Ken. Last week. It's definitely terminal. Yeah, it's too bad. He has sage for. So yeah, very sorry to hear that. Andrea, thank you so much for coming on and giving us your side of the story. What do you want to promote? Are you still doing your own podcast? Starting it back up, I had to take some time off because of my own health issues. Yep. But and because I wanted some time off to deal with Ken, that was the main reason. I'll be starting it back up. It's a living in it podcast. And we'll all be starting that up by the beginning of February. And just see me in house chat or shoelace or yours or chads, you know, the one thing about the dabble verse and I do want to say this, however you all think about what's going on and

stuff's going to come out because I'm pretty sure that I have really pissed John off now. Yep. But one stuff comes out. You're going to realize the reason why us mods did not say anything. And why we weren't forthcoming in things. Very cryptic right here from Adria little tease about what's to come, interesting, all right. Yeah, well, he's already said, you know,

we kind of had an agreement. I wasn't sure if it actually was an agreement because he never said he wouldn't quit talking about Nikki. Yeah. So in the emails, so the only thing he did say was if you said something about what was going on, I was going to release it. I've got the same probably better documents than you do. When you're ready to release anything, you're always welcome here on WATP.

Oh yes. Thank you so much for all the help. By the way, thank you for featuring me on your Who Are They Podcasts. Yes. Because you helped me a lot. Oh good. I'm glad you're there. It's fun to you say that I got a similar notes back from Erie Jane when I saw her in Detroit because we had reviewed her show too.

And she goes, curl, I watched it. It actually helped me out a ton. I really appreciate all the information. So I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad you took that the right way. Thank you, Andrew. I think you're being a good sport. I appreciate it.

Thank you so much for having me on. All right, Andrew Broward, everybody. Thank you for being here. I got Ian Hock coming up. Let's get through some super chats quickly first. Geno 5 bucks. Love your work and coverage of this shameless clown LOL. Thank you very much Simon 3.4.3 5 bucks.

Curl is going gray but still looks good. I look fucking great. You kidding me? I'm pulling off. I'm doing this. A lot of people can't pull off the crooked teeth. No chin look but I'm doing this. A lot of people can't pull off the crooked teeth. No chin luck, but I'm, I'm nailing it. Zach, off in five bucks, Carol, for your birthday this

year, can you please divulge the Scottian here info you have? Please, dude, for my birthday this year. What's your birthday, Zach? Yeah, you know, I should do a whole special on Scottian engineer. That guy really is a piece of shit. He had all of the insurance coverage. He claimed that he didn't, he claims that Howard screwed him over. Howard didn't know such thing. I'm not a guy who is out with, Howard with COVID, by the way, that's pretty crazy. That's, that's a nutty story. Howard was able to get COVID, even he's perplexed by this. Doesn't know how it possibly happened. Mark P, $10, hey Carl, that IPA in many was worthless.

It was an old generation, an old gen version. OAS could no longer be updated. Nick tossed it, oh my god. Mark P, that is hilarious. I wish I would have gotten to the sooner. Thank you for that information. It makes perfect sense. John goes, need an iPad.

So I started to look around, look around where, at Target, at Apple Store, on Amazon. No, at the pub, of course. That's where you looked around. And a guy at the pub's like, yeah, I got an old one. It's fine.

Hey, Carl, I'm blaming you and WOTP for me becoming obsessed with Southern John. The Michael Gavin O'Lease show does Southern John watch along in 2024. I love to have you on again. Sounds good, Michael Gavin O'Lease. I love when you call in to Tuky show. Always good to see on there as well. Michael Gavin O'Lease show.

Don, two bucks, few beers, equals free iPad mini. Apparently go figure no go with two box. You're beating a dead horse. You are turning into shoolly. No, go come on. It's not a nice thing to say about your son. Ricky 30 to 25 bucks. Andrew did any of the mods tell John that his charity

looked like a scam in every possible way. That is an interesting question. I don't think, I think Andrew kind of answered that, which he said, you gotta know when to say stuff and when not to. Seems to me like they kept those types of things of themselves. Tip of what it converters, five euros,

is this real Andrea? I also remember to sing Ray, sign Ray up for the Bachelorette. Is this real Andrea? Huh. Hey, Andrea! It's from Don, sorry. I'm sure she's still watching.

No, get two bucks. This episode is a new low. Who are these moderators? Yeah, well, it's a little bonus thing we're doing out of my day. Tony, bag of donuts, three bucks. Curious what Hell Sparks is making of all of this. Oh my gosh, that's a guy I'd like to talk to. Hell Sparks would be, it's all, you know what I wanted to ask Andrea about who leaked it

to John that Hell Sparks was saying that he doesn't want to do John show because he had a carry of the show. I wonder if she knows the answer to that. Muttering V193, Tim Box, team Andrea, Nikki and Benny, fuck stuttering John, agreed. This lady was great as Charlie Brown's teacher, so thorough Joe Burrow. What do you think about the bills, the two seed? But you didn't see that comic, I sure shittin. Black, Madge, 666. Teaching boomers how to use YouTube was such a goddamn mistake. Yeah, I know.

It hasn't worked out well. My boy, Kelly Riddle coming in, anyone dumb enough to trust John, got exactly what they deserved, looking for direction, cardiff, and Vinnie. Yeah, wow, yeah. Good point. Black and magic 666, ask Andrea

what her box smells like. Ah, probably not a question that she would want to answer. Be my guess on that. Vinnie's a fat whop. Andrea, thanks for coming on. Is Biden the right guy for 2024 brains wise? I worry about him and Julie Bean. Hashtag BLM hashtag blue wave hashtag Hillary 24 hashtag Trump bad.

Yeah, I wasn't going to get into politics with Andrew. That would not have gone well. A.O.1012 two bucks that blanket has to smell like cat piss, right? Yeah, probably. Centering John's quarter the day $10. I wonder how much money John kept himself. John kept himself from the money that was donated specifically for the cancer donation, no way he went through all the superchats to calculate it.

Yes, and this is the thing, I've dealt with John a little bit, we did those two shows together, where we had to do the accounting on the back end and pay each other half of the superchats. John's very bad at this. There's no fucking way. He knows how to set up a spreadsheet or actually calculate how much money would go to one person and how much he would keep it was

Such a ridiculous premise from the get-gots while we all made fun of it. They England five-year-olds None of this would have happened if he didn't announce it as a charity something the beloved chatter didn't want He could have given some money. Yeah. Yeah. He could have just given some money It wasn't me people got to remember John actually makes some super chat money these days. Back then, he was just doing the political show. He wasn't really talking about the dabble versorship. He wasn't making any money. He had 222 people watching, most of them were poor,

and they weren't giving him a lot of money, so, it was a ridiculous thing. It just seemed like he was trying to find an angle to give people the donate money to him I don't know. That's just one man's opinion. I can be wrong Black match 666 another five bucks. Thank you. It's a wonder John a single you can get yourself a winner tonight John sons of tranny five bucks see every chance he gots trash in my family. It's the guy's name, John, I don't know what to say.

S.J. won't stop the abuse harassment and stress until one of you takes his veiled threat seriously and get the police involved. You deserve respect. Johnson's a tranny and another five bucks. It's convenient for John to believe memberships are built in a rear. It's like the challenge of Portiaos.

Yeah, that's pretty funny. That's a good call. God's home, I remember five months. Thank you, God's home. Andrew, what do you think about SJ yelling at people who say frustrated instead of frustrated? Seems like a personal attack. I say, I think he's smarter than you.

Yeah, I picked up on that when she said frustrated. Today I was like, oh, I know I was yelling about that. John's lots of training in the five bucks. Scott Salem has always been a piece of shit. All the hoopla and angered, all the hoopla and angered toward Howard Stern is because Howard Stern didn't take one or two million and give it to Scott.

Yeah, as I'm learning more and more about the guys on Stern, the ungrateful guys from the Howard Stern show and there's a lot of them, all of them are resentful of how much money Howard makes compared to how much money they make. I mean, it is what it is. You get paid with your worth. That's just how that all works. Dr. Steve, wow, two bucks, thanks, buddy.

Eggs act Lee for fuck's sake. Did I say exact sheet today? I really tried not to do with that, but he's all over me. All right, let's bring on our second guest today. Guest heavy show today on an emergency broadcast of who are these podcasts. Ian Hawke is with us.

What's up Ian? Everyone. So I gotta be honest with you. I don't know what you're up to. I'm very interested to find out what you're up to because I heard your name get brought up when John was at his mom's house over the Christmas break, talking about getting the police

involved with you, you're doing so. Oh, say that again. Oh, you're definitely dead. You brought that up many times. Yeah, so apparently he's going to have you arrested. And the other reason why you're on the show today is because you are not a fan of Joey C. And you've got to know that Joey C. He's going to voice analysis myself. So I can't get my real voice up today.

Oh, okay. I say. So so you're hiding your identity right now. Oh, I was on camera, I messed it all up. Yeah, oopsie. It's not gonna work. All right, I think God, you don't actually talk like that. I was gonna get really annoying, really quick. Let's start with the fun stuff.

What did you do that made John want to get you a trouble with the law? Well, I did to get you a trouble with the law. Well, I did by chance was I was hanging out with a group of people that happened to order John several pieces that day. Okay. And these people were hanging out in a discord server somewhere, maybe NLO. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Okay.

We're not in a low, in a low J. Jason. Okay. Yeah. I'm just going in a low jay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just gonna be a big fan. Yeah, I did. Okay. So you guys are ordering food to Johns house. I was just prepaid food or did you have to pay when it was delivered?

What I ordered was prepaid food. I can attest to what everyone else gave ordered. Okay. Well, I'm going to say something crazy right now and tell me if I'm wrong about this. But sending prepaid food to someone's house probably is not illegal and actually should maybe be appreciated I thought so as well. It just happened to be in between maybe three or four or five seven pizzas and It may have happened throughout the night as well. I don't know. Okay, so it was late night. People were going to the house and sometimes.

Yeah, yeah. Well, we don't condone fucking with people in real life on this show. As you know, I've said it many times. I know, don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong when his phone kept ringing at his big try of it returned show from his mom's house. And the phone kept ringing over and over again.

It was one of the funniest pranks I've ever been a witness of. So it's hard for me to sit here and say, I don't condone it when I'm on with Anthony Kubi and we're laughing our asses off. But the point is, is that we don't want to hurt, especially Jon's family members. It's one thing to fuck with Jon and send him food to his stupid gross apartment in the valley and she'll like that. What is with his mom and stuff and the police are coming over and it seemed like a bit much. Yeah, that was a, it did seem a little bit. I wasn't involved and neither was the group of people that I was with with the police and like, and sending them over.

We would have never done that. I think on one day we ordered a bunch of pizzas. Okay, so I think nobody was you because he said your name. How did he know that? Okay, well, so that was the Joey C angle of all of pizzas. Okay, so how do you know it was you? Because he said your name. How did he know that? Okay, well, so that was the Joey C angle of all of this. Okay. So Joey C 10 bucks through my cash app and forgot to change my name on there. And so Joey C found out who I was. Okay. And so Joey C looked me up and saw how to we charge 12, 13 years ago. And then he gave that information to John.

And John starts like, you like John knows the county I live in. So he says the name of the city in the county I live in. And he calls me in, he says my full name and everything. And well, hold on a second. Joey C is snitching. I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought Joey C was not a snitcher. This surprises me a little bit. Oh, no, no, no. So I also believe Joey got some information

from some other people as well, but he definitely was going around doxing me to several pizza people. The fan of yours, Johnny Kush, Johnny whatever. Yeah, everyone happy hour. Yeah. Yes, sorry. Yeah. He's been trying to stay relevant on Twitter and going after me and stuff. Okay. Wow, you're really getting into it with people. You seem like you're having fun, too.

I see a smiling about it. You don't see to be taking this as a blast. Okay, good. You're not taking the threats of being arrested seriously, then. Is that what you're saying? I would love for the, I honestly would love it if you called the cops on. I don't care. Just do it. I know I know I've been saying the same thing to John too when he threatens a release intel about my family and all this absolutely just well just do it. Don't talk about it.

Talk it about it's boring. If you're gonna do do something, fucking do it. Be a man, man up. Exactly. You never show your hand. Right. You're just, you're just going to play it. Yeah. Could you imagine that I would be the worst member of the mafia of all time? If you just went around threatening people with hits all the time, it's like, no, no, you just fucking do it. You never announced it ahead of time. You want the element of surprise? Is a big part of this. Oh, definitely. Well, that's the great thing about Joey as well. He believes he's related to someone fake,

like infamous in Chicago. And so he always goes, I know some people, I've gotten text messages where he's like, do I need to make a phone call? Uh huh. It's if they really knew real gangster mobsterster guys these guys are just like really nearly doing favors Or oh you got me to whack a guy. Yeah, no problem. I'll work on that this week. I don't get for you It's they have better shit to do

If you see personal to them or else anyway, I don't explain this to you Yeah, someone someone can come down to Tyler Texas. I don't come on Call it is shot right now. All right, I want to get into the Joey C stuff with you, but let's read through some super chats real quick. A-o-one-o-one-two. Five bucks.

A guy who called a PowerPoint, a spreadsheet, doesn't know how Excel works. Yeah, don't shit. That's definitely true. DPM, two bucks. Carol Strungley resembled a a bills plushie last night. What a game, huh, guys? What a game.

So glad Vity came over for that. Base pill, $5,000, Canadian, Carol. What would you choose? Christmas gifts or yearly blog talk radio subscription? Oh, so Carl, a yearly blog talk radio subscription at the plan that Joey sees doing it costs him a $1,000 a year. What? Exactly.

He gets two hours of radio and 50 callers a day. That's what you're paying for, Joey. Oh, he invited me out of that show. He didn't really invite you. I just got an email from him saying, come on tonight. I happen to be hanging out with Elphari Blay when he was calling into a show, Joe. He was really funny. Oh, no shit. Yeah, yeah. You wouldn't be dad blower boys. He will just, you know, we just know each other through

his chords and the internet. Gotcha. I saw that cool sticker on your cop. So figure as much. Yeah yeah, no, I did docs myself and I gave him my address and I got this. The nice signed. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Dr. Steve, you can go 10 dollars. Thank you, Dr. Steve. You know, Dr. Steve, I see you giving money to these other guys, Tookie. Anyway, for real, these emergency bonus shows on Monday, make my week.

Thank you, pal. Thank you, pal. Thank you, pal. You're the best. Andrew, two bucks. Thank you, Carl and Chatt. Thank you, Andrew. I think she's coming on. Reverend Schistane, power for Pupil, two bucks.

So are you keep taking my heat from John? Big ups. Oh, yeah. That's a man himself. Oh, explain this. What's going on? Okay. So John happened to invite my best friend, B. Dabble. I mean, a double story and on.

OK, yep. And so Dabble Story had been doing a couple episodes with him. And all of a sudden, Dabble Story and Showed Up one day, but then proceeded to turn on his camera and show graphic videos of a fecal matter. That was a devil story. And no, that was the man himself, the Reverend Shitstein.

Oh, that's who that was. Okay. He pretended to be devil story. Yeah. He came in under a double story and alt with the photo and everything and John just invited him on and for shame Reverend shit stain powerful pooper. We don't put porn on YouTube and get people's channels taken down. It's not good Not a good you guys are office of serious Suprakes and shenanigans over there. You look very happy about it

Well anything to John honestly I feel like I'm sending the wrong message to the listeners right now with this episode. Possibly. Yeah, yeah. I mean, too much. Yeah, I know, right? Curls Frost and tips five bucks. Please pull the plug on Gary from San Diego. Also, we get it.

You do banter such a kids are monsters love you. Listen, there's nothing better than the banjo between myself and Blind Mike and Gary's got a, I don't know about his new bit that he's doing. Kiki, look, go, two bucks, in Dornash, Rick's wings to my house. Sees and the srs. That's all I have to say about that. Nothing wrong with that.

As long as you're not mild, I'd be pissed if someone said, I shouldn't even say this. Someone said, he mild wings, it's a waste of fucking time. Bone lifts and planning drive. Ah, I don't know the waste of time. That is, oh, one, oh, one, two, two bucks. Four touches for a chain after the TD run, pathetic. Yeah, they didn't seem to have a good offensive game plan.

What are they punt four times in a row in the second half? But props to the bills. They did, they made an adjustment. They made some type of adjustments and that dork of a head coach that the dolphins have couldn't figure it out. So talk to me about Joey C. Is there more to the story? Or is it just that he was doxing you and? No, no I mean basically the whole roll of Joey see was that we were just watching him go crazy on his live stream and he did wild things like he took his son to Purgel one day and then he came back home and

ran out of gas and we got to watch him drive into a exon and scream and shout trying to get the pennies out of his car to pay for the gas. How long ago was this? This was probably like four months ago maybe. Oh wow. Yeah Dominic is in prison right now for a while. Okay. Well, well that same day Joey happened to visit Christina at her job.

And so he showed her, she showed everyone where she were. And then he walks up into his house and shows everyone his house and he showed his grandkids and he happened to introduce us to Chico Black. He was a gentleman sleeping on his floor in a bed of swish or sweet wrappers. And from there, we just kind of just kept watching Joey see. And every now and then, I would call downstairs to make sure Christina still had her job, maybe. Sure.

There may have been a hair salon right down the road. And I may have gotten some kids to go over to Christina's and say, Joey had a heart attack once or twice. So it sounds to me because the note that I got from you made it seem like you thought Joey C was a PLS, but it seems to me like maybe you're the PLS in the situation. Maybe as a right to be angry with you. Well, I would, I would, I would totally get that he might be angry with me. Yeah, I totally am a POS, but, uh, okay.

But then Joey C is running around. I have never given any of my information about Joey C. However, I know where he lives. He tells people where he lives. But then he's going around in privately direct messaging, like the Johnny Kush and other people, Suttering John, my address and who I am. And all we're doing is just little pranks that are completely

just non-herfable. And he's going around and- Let me ask him that. And he's harm. So I don't know all of the Joey C. Law obviously, but I do know he was complaining the other day that someone was going to rape his granddaughter or niece or some weird thing.

Yeah, no. Yeah, someone had called his house and said like they were going to f his grandkids. Okay. Well, that wasn't you? You know, I, you know, no, no, no, no, that was, that was not me. I never made that call. Okay. I just about any trial trial, effing and...

We all do, but Joey's sitting and Joey's running around calling me a pedophile now. Oh, and seeing that as well, yeah. This is what's with my full name in address. He runs around. It says it. If Joey's watching right now or if he sees this clip, Joey, you got to stop overreacting to these things. Someone who calls you and says they're going to do something horrific is not actually going to do that. This is the thing we were just talking about. You want the element of

surprise. You never announced you're going to do a thing before you do a thing. It's why I don't take death threats seriously. If you're going to kill me, just kill me. So Joey, when you react the way that you react, Joey, see? And you're all flustered, you're like, you can do believe this person said this thing and they're gonna do this stuff? Like you're inviting more of that into your life. You gotta downplay it and act like it doesn't bother you. And by the way, it shouldn't,

because they're just fucking with you. They're trying to get that exact reaction out of you. And if that's what you want, then fine. Then that's all good. Do you wanna keep the cycle going? Kind of like John right now, he's trying to keep the cycle going where all Carl's trashing my kids and no one's talking to my kids, but whenever he keeps his thing going. So that's what you want to do. Then go for it,

but it makes you a phony and it makes it annoying. Yeah, it is. I got a, well, he did that video that day and that's why I jumped on with the voice changer because he was playing something and then said that, oh, I sent it to the cops and the FBI are going to voice vocal analyze Ian Hawke when they arrest him at his home. And he goes on, he says, like, he's doxing me right in this whole thing and then going, they're going to vocal analyze you tomorrow. What the gotcha, you're done, you're in prison already. Stop threatening the trolls. That's the other thing. John and Joey see you got to stop doing that. Look at how happy he is. He's getting all this attention. You could call the police department. They're not going to do shit. They're not

this illegal. Oh, so let me ask you about this. So you guys were sending all this food and stuff to John's house. And so he said that he had talked to the police about this. I think he mentioned his local police. I'm long island, but also wherever you are. Have you been contacted by the authorities? No. Because John called the police on me too. Yeah, he, he's been freaking out on me on emails. That's what he's been doing to me behind the scenes. So, right, John? He's, yeah, he sent me my mug shot several times and that county I live in, it says, and he just gives the standard bread. I've called the police already.

You know, he sent me that, like throughout the weeks I get one every one or two days. I've even messed with John since he left his mom's house. I don't even know. I know where he lives in California. I don't have an address or anything. And so I can't mess with him there, but go to Florida, John. I really wish you would go to your house in Florida right now, actually. That's the part I want to with.

It's all paid for. It's all paid for. Okay, well, that's nice. That's the part I want to with. It's all paid for. It's all paid for. Okay, well that's nice. That's nice, then. Yeah. It's the warrior scent. Duncan Donuts to my house and I was doing a show one Sunday morning.

And I appreciated it. We had people over to watch the game later. I had the donuts out for everyone. Some donut holes were in there as well. So yeah, prepaid food, not a bad thing. I mean, this guy is psychotic, right? I think so. That's the vibe I'm getting from Ian Hock.

I think you might be psychotic. Oh, absolutely. I think I would have to be apologizing for platforming you at some point. I see in my near future, me coming out a very special episode and going, I didn't really know. I didn't really know.

I didn't know what he was up to. I apologize, the video has been taken down, do community service. No, no, no, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm an upstanding gentleman. Peta Swingham says, are you recruiting people, Mr. Hawke, do you need a team around you now with a backslash, backslash in a low for discord and anyone's free to welcome. I mean, join. It is that. Oh, wow. Didn't you tell me it wasn't that? Well, no,

that's just the best way to get in contact with me. I say. Yeah. So you're a big Patrick mountain guy. Well, no, I actually, I was I'm a big WTP fan, but I just by around February, they in the February, I've, uh, Patrick Mountain came into here and I've been listening to him as well. And yeah, I kind of bought a whole bunch of his merch as well. Cool. Yeah, I like, uh, I like Patrick. I think we're going to do something together this year.

We're going to do a, a live show or something. So, uh, yeah, yeah, they've been talking about it. He's been talking about it. Good. Good. That'll be a lot of fun. Looking forward to it. All right. Ian, anything else you want to, you want to say before I kick you out of here? No, no, no, not all. Just, uh, really Ian hawk on Twitter and, uh, you can talk to me anytime on Discord. I'm there. Very good. All right, Ian, let's stop talking with people's, uh's families and talking with people in real life. I've never messed with families. I only messed with the guys on the screen.

Well, except for when they're at their mob's house, that may be you're messing with the family a little bit. Yeah, I guess. I get. Okay. That you weren't the one making phone calls. Were you? No, no, no, no, I wasn't the one. Yeah, that would they have the day before where he had the like

the phone calls in a row and they couldn't figure out which phone was ringing. Yeah, if that was you, I would ask for an autograph, but that was not you. All right. What was that? If that hadn't been you, I would be asking for an autograph right now, but oh, no, no, yeah, I just one pizza.

I mean, it was too expensive as it is, you know. I understand. All right. Thanks, Ian. Good to talk to you, buddy. as it is, you know. I understand. All right. Thanks, say good to talk to you, buddy. Thanks for supporting WTK. Appreciate it. Okay.

Okay. So you know how he got on WTPs because he direct message me on our Patreon. And so if you ever want to get on WTPs, we do bonus shows from time to time where I invite people at certain levels to come on. If you support the show, then we'll have you on. We'll do AMAs or things like that. Carl, show us VIX TITS. You can see VIX TITS if you join our Patreon. It is there. I do not talk about poodles on this show, but thank you for asking. Guys, thanks so much for coming on today. And I want to do a plug for who are these broadcasters tomorrow.

2 p.m. Eastern on this very channel. Watch my buddies Christian Blatt and Eric Zayn go through the week of broadcasting. And again, thanks everybody for hanging out, checking out the show today. And we'll see you on Wednesday, the regular show will be back. Lucy Typogs, Trucker Andy producer Chris, and myself looking for the worst podcast in the hobbies category. If anyone has any ideas for me, shoot them my way. I haven't even looked yet.

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