Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep601 - StutJo's Stand Up, Opie, Armie Hammer, Ben Sixsmith

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

We start the show today by interviewing Ben Sixsmith who recently published the article “The Irresistible Rise of the LOLcows” in The Critic Magazine. The article does a masterful job of describing Stuttering John’s relationship with WATP while also touching on Patrick Michael, Aaron Imholte, Chad Zumock, and Howard Stern. Then Ben hangs with Adam Busch, Producer Chris, and me as we watch Opie officially morph into Stuttering John.  We are joined by Boca Dave who recently went to see Stuttering John perform stand up “comedy” at the Boca Black Box. He recorded the entire performance, we break down the first 10 minutes. Christian Bladt then joins the show to discuss working with Frenchie Hana for our 600th episode tribute and play some outtakes from that. Armie Hammer is still trying to fix his public image and Adam isn’t buying it. Finally Annie joins us to read some recent reviews and listen to your voicemails.  Ben Sixsmith - https://www.bensixsmith.com/ Annie’s website - https://www.insanneity.com/  Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Come to Hackamania May 9-11 in Las Vegas with promo code WATP – https://hackamania.com/ Season 2 of the Tapes! Watch Dabble House April 11-12 - https://dabblecon.live/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I want to talk about Opie further transitioning into stuttering. John, I to talk about today. I want to talk about OP further transitioning into Stuttering John. I have some clips today. I mean, Adam's been on this beat for a little bit now, but I have some clips today that even Adam, I think, is going to be surprised by because it's just full blown at this point. Also, Stuttering John had a recent standup show this past weekend and not only will we be joined by the guy who was there, but also I have the audio from it and we'll be listening to the stand-up and seeing what's new and what is old on there

and dissecting that a little bit. Armie Hammer still trying to make a comeback. And also, I just reviewed this with Drew yesterday, but I have a couple clips that we have to play on here. Armie Hammer talking about trying to go gay. Yeah. And how that worked out for him. Caught some of that today.

Yeah, it's interesting. So we'll get into that. And I'm very excited. Christian Blatt will be joining us later because Frenchy Hanna had that great tribute to us in the episode 600. Yes. And apparently it wasn't easy to get

the final product of that. So I heard. So Christian Blatt's gonna have some outtakes and different things to show us. But first, I want to talk about the dabbler of the week from the critic magazine. People have been seeing this going around. If you're part of the dabble verse, if you're interested in this kind of thing, Ben six Smith is joining us live from the UK. What's up, Ben? All right, great to see you guys. Actually from Poland, where I live. You do live in Poland. Okay, you had a UK address. And so I

assumed that you were there. So this time zone is even more fucked up than I thought it was. It's a little late, but it's great to be here. Okay, well, thank you very much for coming on. If you don't know, Ben writes for the critic magazine. And he recently published an article called the irresistible rise of the wolf house that very heavily features stuttering john and talks about who are these podcasts. And so I appreciate your obviously a long time listening to the show, Ben. Absolutely, many years.

That's awesome. Thank you for coming on. Thanks for writing about that. And the article, when did that come out? So that came out in print last week and that it should be online in the next couple of weeks. I'm not sure when. Would we know about it if someone hadn't seen it

and then sent it to Cardiff electric for him to read on his show. That's the crossover between Hilly's podcast and the critic must, I must be a one man. And I really appreciate that one man because he has excellent taste. I must say. Yes. That was incredible. Someone was just flipping through the magazine over in the UK and went, Oh, what's this all

about? I was stuttering. John, I got to get this to Cardiff. I got to get this over to Cardiff. Well, you know, Canadians and the British are, they's this all about? I was stuttering. John, I got to get this to Cardiff. Yeah, I gotta get this over to Cardiff. Well, you know, Canadians and the British are there still buds for some reason. We told him to scram years ago. But so tell me a little bit about yourself, Ben. What do you do professionally for a living? You're just a

journalist full time. So I'm an online editor for the critic magazine. We publish on politics and culture, mostly on politics and culture, mostly British politics and culture, but not exclusively. And I'm also The Critic's podcast reviewer. So I'm kind of in the same domain as you guys. And that's how I got the opportunity to write about the wonderful world of the Davilvers.

That's awesome. So you listen to podcasts professionally to critique them for the magazine. Absolutely. I thank God every day. What are some of your favorite podcasts that you've reviewed or critiqued? So a lot of British podcasts, some insufferable politics podcasts by hideous characters that I hope for your sake you've never heard of.

But also some American classics and Joe Rogan's some, uh, some of the comedy podcasts like the Adam Friedland show, uh, all, all across the board, always trying to review different things and different themes. And I found that in rent, uh, the law camps, what about my dad wrote a porno, one of our favorites from the UK? Uh, I think that was just, I try not to go for the two obvious ones. The risk of sounding like an insufferable podcast snob. So, rather than go for that, I went straight for stuttering John.

Now you started off your article talking about shock jocks, Howard Stern, Opie and Anthony, what they were doing in the late nineties and early aughts. And I have to ask since you live in Poland, how do you know about this shit? How does this stuff get over there? Just endless hours of trawling through YouTube in search of entertainment really. I mean, there's such a gold mine of old content on the internet and to stick with the stuff that's around nowadays just seems like a pathetic waste given all the history there is to experience. So on my many trolls through the internet, I came across clips from Stern, from Opie and Anthony, and then kind of dug into that universe and what a hole there is to dig.

So is that how you discovered Hoartley's podcast? Just through the algorithm? I think it was. I think it was. I'd been a follower of some other beloved locales like Brendan Schaub through the fighter and the kids subreddit. And then I got a perverse fascination. There was a little period where people were creating documentaries about comedians. I remember there was one about Jim Norton, for example. And I was kind of fascinated

that this guy would devote such immense energy and creativity to discussing this one comedian. And I think that led me to do all these podcasts. I want to read one of the paragraphs of your article that I found interesting and fun. You write, Mellondes has no discernible wit, intelligence or charm. His podcasts have the humorous qualities of an ape attempting to understand a smartphone, except unlike the poor primate, Melendez is capable of malice. Now first I have to say, I commend you on your writing talent. It's very well written. It's entertaining. It's a short article, but it's very entertaining. And I want to talk about the

capable of malice part of this. Now, you point out after this that maybe the reason why the devil verse came to be and people started focusing on John was because of his reaction to the criticism. Do you think that's true? Yeah, I mean, I think without his obnoxious qualities, he'd be a very, very tragic figure. This guy who was elevated to a stature way beyond his abilities, time and time again, then found himself in the obscurity that were it not for bizarre chances of fate, he would have always dwelled in. And it would be quite a sad story. And he would be quite a sympathetic figure were it not for his incredible capacity for meanness and arrogance. I agree to some level, but I was just thinking about this only because I reviewed Monica Lewinsky's podcast yesterday with Drew Lane. And Monica Lewinsky is concerned about imposter syndrome. She's worried that she doesn't really belong with these other people

interviewing them or being on their show. And I agree with her. She doesn't. John never had that sense. Whenever he was on the Howard Stern show or on Jay Leno, for some reason, he has this delusion about his own talent. He was born with something missing. He never thinks for a second that like, do I even belong here? Nope. And so even without the malice, I find that fascinating. And Adam, I think you were a Stern fan growing up in the markets where Howard was very popular.

But I think you've come to find this universe in a similar fashion. And I'm curious, Ben, what made you write the article when you did? Because if you'd been looking for a while, I did the same thing. And at some point, I just felt I would regret not talking to John and not just stepping in the same way I would if Eric the actor was around and I didn't speak to him. What made you write the article now? I think I want it's an article I wanted to write for some time. And

I finally couldn't resist scratching that itch. It's such a fascinating world to look in this kind of meta tragicomedy of failure. And I finally couldn't succumb to the temptation to test the limits of my editor's ability to understand the internet. And I gave it a shot and somehow they agreed to publish it. Yeah, I was going to ask about that, if you had to convince them that that was an interesting article for the magazine. I think they trusted me that if I was really insisting that this rather sad

X-radio style was worth reading about then the people would agree and clearly at least one person did so, you know I'm way ahead already. Have you received any feedback from non-dabble verse people or have you heard, have you talked to anyone who's interested in it now after reading your article? or have you talked to anyone who's interested in it now after reading your article? I've heard from some people who've enjoyed it, mostly from within the Davilverse, but I've talked to some people outside who've enjoyed it as well.

I don't know if they've dipped their toes into this world, but I'm sure that some will. Another thing I wanted to read from the article that I found very funny. It says, what is fascinating about the Davilverse though, is that it is made up of very random obscure people making fun of a random obscure people. Suthering John is the most famous person in this sphere, and he could walk for longer than a proclaimers without being recognized. That would piss John off right there. That's his only thing is he needs to be famous so badly.

Yeah, but he has to tell people, Of course. So it doesn't count really. The line between the amused and the object of amusement is also fascinatingly thin. It just takes a flaw to be illuminated and the mocker becomes the mocked. Perhaps we all have a little low cow inside of us where our ego and our insecurities lack tape. And I wanted to ask you about that because you bring up Aaron Imholt in here. You actually bring up Patrick Michaels, Chad Zubak, Aaron Imholt. And I think that there is a feeling in a lot of these guys that like, oh, if I make the wrong move, or if someone I don't like makes the wrong move, everyone's going to turn on them. I don't think that's the case. I think that consistently being quality and putting on a good show and knowing what you're doing

doesn't allow that to happen. It doesn't matter if like there's like a photo that comes out of the guy at a cow bikini, you know, I don't know, I just spitballing here. How'd you come up with that? Weird. You know, I don't know. I just spit balling here. How'd you come up with that? Weird. But Ben, are you concerned about that? That things could flip very easily for any of these guys? Yeah. I mean, I think what made me interested in the double versus my interest in failure.

I think I used to be a teacher. We have a line in England that those who can't teach and those who can't teach teach gym. We've got that one too. Most teachers are frustrated in some way. I think most journalists probably are kind of have failed to some extent when it comes to their aspirations. There are very few people who say, I want to have a column. There are a lot of people who want to write books and win a Pulitzer Prize,

and then they end up writing a column. And I always feel like the difference between your average failure and a lolcow is the lack of self-awareness. So all of us need to kind of take control of our sense of self because it's when the sense of self diverges to a dramatic degree from one's actual conditions that one becomes quite so entertaining. I mean, Opie, for example, who I think you're going to discuss later. I remember a time when he was kind of almost become a beloved figure. People were creating these extensive meta narratives about how actually he was the genius behind Opie and Anthony, but he couldn't just enjoy the moment and then, you know, slink back to the Hamptons and enjoy his millions. He had to cling to this

delusion that he was going to be the next Joe Rogan all over again. And that lack of self-awareness is really the big warning that lies at the heart of the dabble this I have a personal thought of that When the ONA subreddit turned on Jim and then turned on Anthony and then embraced Opie I think all of that was tongue-in-cheek. I think they hated all those guys are they're like, hey Let's build up Opie and see what happens and to a large degree Opie fell for it, which was Amusing if you're paying attention back in those times. Adam, it was like you had something you wanted to get in with.

I'm curious, do you think people looking at the Dabbleverse now or who read your article and then watch these shows of people critiquing John and Opie would instinctually feel bad for John and Opie in the way that sometimes somebody will look over my shoulder and be like, why are you picking on this clearly slow drunk person who can't defend himself correctly? Or do you think that malice will read and people will understand what's happening? I think it depends on how much you consume. I think if you dug into a random episode, you would be like, why is this tragic alcoholic being laughed at when he's so clearly in the mud of existence? But then one needs to absorb

all of his many varied and colorful negative qualities. I think the perception would flip to some extent, not least because you realize just how desperately he wouldn't want to be seen as an object of pity to begin with. I think that would almost be much worse for someone like John or Opie than being considered a figure of scorn. Because if they're a figure of pity, then that just emphasizes how radically deluded they are about their place in the world. And can you just dispel some rumors really fast? Can you, is there a way that you can prove to us that you're not Clay Dabler? I had my bandanas in the other room and you know. Clay is in the chat defending John so it's possible that Ben is a different British guy.

I haven't heard any sirens. So I'm assuming There's only five of us and we all know the king but I haven't bumped into clay yet, so I'm not good It does sound like you have a lot to say about Howard Stern in this article too, which I appreciated talking about how he's agoraphobic and Was a guy who was mocking everyone for a while was on top and calling everyone out. And now who even knows whose audiences it seems like the view and the Howard Stern show have a huge crossover cross section of people. And so now it's turned into Howard is more mocked than he is revered. Do you think that's true? Yeah, I mean, the only things really that separate Howard from John are millions of dollars and the fact that Howard doesn't really like cause lights. I mean, he's pretty much qualitatively,

he's at the same level. I mean, I'd rather listen to stuttering John any day than Howard Stern because at least there's some kind of comedy value. I got to agree with you on that. We've come a long way. at least there's some kind of comedy value. I gotta agree with you on that. Whereas, you know, how... We've come a long way. Well, I agree with you only because of my job.

I have the hardest time clipping Howard Stern's show. I could go for 45 minutes and just be like zoning out, like, what just happened? Oh shit. I just lost 45 minutes of time trying to figure out what I'm listening to, whereas John, I... It's too much. I get overwhelmed. Listening to Howard, it's always like, I imagine it's like waiting in the doctor's office and being stuck next to the most boring patient who's in there every week, annoying.

Who's holding court. Right. Like he owns the place. And just holding forth about his life when you're desperately looking for an exit and there's this random African American lady sitting next to him shrieking with laughter for no particular reason. It's, it's, it's completely insufferable. Whereas at least when someone's screaming at me about Pocky and whatever else John's nicknames are, there's a kind of endearing farcical quality to Howard Black. Yeah. Howard doesn't yell about the shitware nearly enough these days. That is a good point.

Adam, what else did you have for Ben? Well, I'm just curious where you think this is all headed and what the end game is for this. Because every time it feels like it's about to fall off a cliff, this cliff just never comes and it keeps getting higher and higher. And even someone like you, who's done something that's very, very difficult, and only a few people in this whole world have ever accomplished,

people talk often about how hard it is to describe this world to somebody new. And you've done it in such a fabulous way that's very easy to understand using low cows as an in. I feel like there's no end to this low cow universe, but I'm curious what you think the dabble verse has in store. Yeah, I mean, I like to believe that there's going to be some kind of funny ending. Like as much as it's easy to dislike John,

like there's a very horrible and tragic endings that he very well could come to, which won't be funny at all, given his his lifestyle. So I'd like to believe that he can somehow, you know, fall off a cliff and land in a pile of feathers rather than fall off cliff. It's gonna end with this soundtrack. But I hope that's true. But I mean, the thing about Volkow's is it's really it's not just a product of the internet. It's where human nature collides with the internet in this massive pile up of egotism and delusion.

So there's always going to be new ones popping up trying to impose themselves upon the world. And that's just going to be a never ending cycle until we end or the internet does. But the particular characters that you've been studying, and I've been following through, I mean, I wish them all the best, because they've given a lot of comedy value to the world, even if they never meant to give the particular value that they did. So I'd like to believe it's a Benny Hillish farcical ending rather than the more morbid and depressing endings that they

amply tempting the universe to give them. Right. I think we combine both, you know, I think he hits the ground and then that music starts and we all have a good time. and then that music starts and we all have a good time. Ben, people can find you on your website, ben6smith, spelled just how it sounds, ben6smith.com. And is this what you write for The Critic

or is this separate from that? This is separate from that, this is my sub stack, that's where I just write my own stuff. And then the Critic website is thecritic.co.uk. So my article on John should be up and you know, who knows, maybe we'll cover the Dambleverse again, turn it into a running feature. So anything else that we want to promote for you? On Twitter, at BD Sixsmith and writing for anywhere that will accept my and writing for anywhere that will accept my Furious submissions. Well, you're a talented writer and I encourage everyone, we'll definitely post it once it goes online, the article.

I encourage everyone to check it out. It's fun. You mentioned Opie and you're a fan of the show. You're familiar with Opie. Do you want to hang out for a segment with us? I'd love to. Let's talk with Opie real quick. So we've been chronicling the fact that Anthony got a job at WABC and Anthony got a job that he's been talking about a lot. The reason why he got the job, it's, you know, it's good. It's foot in the door. This is a pretty big station.

As I mentioned, the highest rated AM station in New York City. So it's the biggest market, highest rated, it's AM, but it's the highest rated AM station, but they own 388 other stations throughout the country. So there's opportunities for syndication. And a lot of the guys who are on that station are syndicated and he could get his name and his message out there to a lot more people. But there does seem to be, I think Anthony might have even admitted this, there does seem to be a little element of, wouldn't it be funny to watch how OPI reacts To be getting a job back on the radio again because OPI's been talking about getting a job on the radio for quite some time We've been documenting that and so the way that OPI's been responding to this news has been hysterical It's been nothing short of hilarious and endlessly entertaining and And it's because of OP show format.

He has nothing. Although we will pull some clips. He did do a show today reacting to Trump's speech last night. So there there's something I'll give OP some credit. He watched a thing and then responded to it. So that's cool. But normally he's just reading the chat and then whatever freaking out, making voices. We're

going to hear a lot of that today. And so once again, we see that Opie has to react to someone asking him about Anthony's new job and you'll never believe his reaction to this. Hey, Oh Beth, did he talking about you? You know what? I don't care. I don't care. He can talk all he wants about me. I don't care. As Kevin Meany would say, I don't care. I don't care. It's not the song. My jokes don't go over. I don't care. The lie that you're looking for their OP and it shows you that he doesn't get the Kevin Meany joke the joke is if he really didn't care He wouldn't be singing about it louder and louder and louder So typically when we break in the song, it's because we give a shit over this is bombing on national television

It's quite distraught about it and turn it into a thing that we're still talking about today. But yeah, I hope he doesn't understand any of this. And the fact that he keeps bringing up these comments and then responding to them over and over again, proves that he cares. So this is immediately after saying that he doesn't care. I mean, people are talking though. People are people out there talking. I mean, people are talking though. People are people out there talking. They're like, wait a minute. Why are we getting details of Anthony's gig at W A B C making his huge return to AM radio? After 11 years a huge return to radio on AM radio and he said he would have the details, right? And most of the main

publications are kind of not even going with the story. That's weird considering Opie and Anthony were in the papers every other day. So it appears he does have some more thoughts. The sound of a man unconcerned. I can't imagine the breakfast his wife will say, now, Opie, can you pass the butter? And he'll go, well, actually, I don't care about Anthony. I'm not interested. Why do you keep bringing up Anthony? No, no, I just want to know if the toast was ready. I, it's not what I was asking at all. It's on his mind nonstop.

And so immediately without anyone asking him about this, he goes, you know what, honestly, I haven't even seen it in the newspaper. Are you looking forward to the newspaper? Going through all the newspapers and looking for the article about Anthony getting the job? And it's not lost on me. The fact that in 2025, OPI's talking about how I can't believe newspapers aren't covering a guy getting an AM radio job. What? The world has changed quite a bit, so I don't know that that would be a thing. Anyway. Is he looking for a job in the newspaper? Maybe that's what it is. Maybe he's going to the help wanted

section. They never want to admit that they're reading about this topic so what they run out of ways to say somebody sent me a friend was telling me about all of these really good friends of yours that know you don't want to know about this stuff that can't stop emailing you and texting you and telling you everything that your enemies are doing. Yeah, not to mention, if you don't respond to that, they'll stop sending it to you. Yes, no, it's obvious.

You talk about it on your show, they'll keep doing it. Yes, it's obvious that they're engaged. Well, then, Opie comes out with this conspiracy theory that's pretty wild. But people are talking. They're like, yo, man, Anthony's not giving much details about his new gig. What's going on? Does he even have a gig? That's what I'm starting to hear. Does he even have a gig?

That's what he started here. So now this is all a made up thing. It is not even been hired by WAPC. He was just on their morning show talking about how he got hired by them with the morning jock as an elaborate ruse to fuck with Opie. And that picture he took with the executives and all the other co-hosts in the lobby of the building was just to fuck with Opie. But also Opie's one of these guys who if he hears people talking about things that he wants to believe are true, he can't wait to report on it I don't some people are saying maybe doesn't even have a job the BBC. Yeah, but they're stupid

You know that you shouldn't repeat that right? Oh, that's just people are saying I'm just going along with that Who does oh maybe it's what you want to hear correct? Opie talks to his family. Mm-hmm. All right, so We can't prove that we don't know that We don't even know if his family lives in the back anymore, but I don't care either way. I don't know that they're alive I just know no idea. I just love someone needed his debit card. That's what I'm starting to hear Yeah, who have you spoken with and by the way guys I'm getting some notions about 9 11 being an inside job, but more on that later. First, Anthony does not have a job and WAPC.

And then right after that, Opie, and he can't help himself. He's getting more and more obnoxious, more and more animated. I do think, and Ben, you might want to look into this maybe for a future article, the people who podcast by themselves staring at themselves looking back at themselves talking to themselves lose their fucking minds over time yeah he probably thinks his ring light is a co-host it's like um tom hanks in that movie he's got the volleyball right he's naming his rig like Wilson. It doesn't turn out one day. So it's only Fred. I bet he listened to Bill Burr's podcast and he was like, yeah, I can do that.

It's like if I watched World's Strongest Man and I was like, yeah, I reckon I could lift that as well. I've been natural. These delusional guys. We're talking about it again yesterday, where stuttering john thought he could outrun an NFL tight end. He challenged him to a race. He got destroyed. But guys like john just see things. I was even like, oh, yeah, I could I could be a tight end.

Last week, john thought he could host and movie critic to talk about the Oscars without having seen any of the films. Didn't feel the need to, felt like he could do it, feels like he could star in a movie. Opie still thinks he's doing radio and he keeps doing these little ticks of like, you know, old radio shows like, like Two for Tuesday, here we go! And then back to yelling about his gripes. none of them have any talent we can speak of after you Friday Adam tell me what you want to f off these were ticks or if they say something that's a song they have to sing the line from the song and go back to it they think that's entertainment it's not yeah it's called rate of veto ism it's not good

get checked by a doctor or professional Here's a perfect example of just that so I keep Keep on talking you are the least funny person I've ever met you are not funny. Okay, you're obnoxious. Okay, not funny Howard is spoken About that. I just can't help but see the parallels of these two retards trying to be entertaining John John does that kind of stuff and I'm always like, oh he's drunk He just likes the way it sounds so he keeps saying it over and over again This guy is sober at like seven o'clock in the morning doing that. Yeah

Yeah, trying desperately to be entertaining Well, we find out some information. Opie had a meeting recently he wants to talk about. I had a meeting with somebody, can't really mention their name, but they worked for Anthony. And he just met with me, a cool guy, very, very cool guy. If I talk about him, you probably will figure it out.

And he was like, we were having a, well, I was having a beer at Gephart's and he was like, I think he was having like a soda. This will probably give it away. And we were talking about some stuff. He wanted to kind of help me out a little bit, which I appreciated. So a lot of speculation on who this person could be.

Opie just had a meeting with a guy and he's getting some information, some intel. And I saw in the comments section on this video, people were saying is it Danny Ross from the show or who could this be? I reached out to my buddy, Erock, who's in the chat. Hi, Eric, former producer of the Opie and Anthony show. Who do you think Opie's talking about? And after he watched the clip, he said, Oh, former producer of the opi and Anthony show. Who do you think? Oh, he's talking about. And after he watched the clip, he said, Oh, I know who this is. Now, Eric doesn't want to say because Eric's friends with this guy. But apparently, this meeting happened years ago. Oh, and it was a guy who, like a lot of people, Tim Sabian was one of

them, went to opi and said, opI, what if we got you a studio, got you set up with professional equipment, started up a show, did it the right way? I mean, you're OPI from OPI-NATALY, we could do something with this. And a lot of, there's a lot of people out there who think that way. This guy's wasting his time right now.

He's doing a show from Gebhardt's, I guess this was back when he was doing the show from Gebhardt's pretty regularly. this was back when he was doing the show from Gebhardt's pretty regularly. And so the guy met him there for lunch and was trying to talk him into this thing. It's crazy to me that Anthony just had all these meetings with these executives and then got a job at WVBC and OP wants to be relevant so bad. He's like, Oh, I had a meeting with a guy. Yeah. It says so much about his professional status that his idea of a meeting is having a beer and get ups. Yeah.

I mean, what, what an excuse that is for your wife. I'm just going out for a meeting. Well, so the reason why he brought it up was because of what he's about to say here. And then in the middle of lunch, I'm like, what are you doing? And he, uh, he goes, Oh, I'm, uh, I'm, uh, I of lunch, I'm like, what are you doing? And he he goes, Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm sending out some troll tweets. And I'm like, and then he shows me he's like, Oh, yeah, I got all these all these accounts. Here's my regular one

that you know, I tweet you or talk to you with. And then here's all my other ones that I I'm trolling this person, I don't want to mention names, I'm trolling this person with this account. And then over here, this account I'm trolling. It's very, very easy. And then with the YouTube same thing, because Google allows you to just make multiple accounts. It's it's it's crazy. Absolutely crazy. What Opie is insinuating here, correct me if I'm wrong, is that

a lot of these people who are in his chat and goofing on him are people we all know who have created these sock accounts to go after him. Now he's accused Anthony of this many times. We all know that Opie has had a Reddit sock account that he denies. A lot of these guys who say, but by the way, everyone here is like these friends of mine or my enemies or pretend to be someone else.

Those are always the people with sack accounts Who are doing just that? But he's trying to say that he's sitting down with a meeting with this guy and the guy during lunch is going Oh, yeah, hold on say I just got a motherfuck This dude real quick hold on. I'm just logging into the right account Which is how much mr.. X cares about Copi's career? Wordle we'll get back to Max cares about Kobe's career. As soon as I'm done with Wirtle. We'll get back to.

In fairness, I kind of, I kind of sympathize with his suspicion that no one could possibly be watching if they didn't know him personally. Yeah. I think that Opie has to tell himself that. I can't have like, and you hear Tom Meyer say this, you hear a lot of these guys obviously John where they go Yeah, it looks like there's all these detractors, but it's like three people just create all these sock accounts So the same same guys over and over again doing this shit

And we could tell both of them that it wouldn't even be an issue if there were lots of fans of yours that were blocking Those people out then no matter how many troll accounts someone had, you would have fans that blotted them out. Like it's really not a good look. Right. And well, okay. I have a lot to talk about with that. Let me skip ahead to this morning's episode because you heard Opie say there's no information going out there about what Anthony is doing for W ABC. What even is this thing is even hired for that. And Anthony came out and talked about it. I knew what it was.

But somebody finally gives Opie a heads up. And this is his reaction to that. Oh my god. And then Trump's just babbling, babbling, babbling, babbling away, babbling away. Anthony's time slot at ABC is eight to 10 PM on Sunday, Sunday. What? Whatever. Good for him. Good for you. You make your big comeback to AM radio and you're a part timer on the weekend. That's impressive. You're right. I'm jealous.

If there's one thing that OP hates is babbling. Right. Yeah. It's got to be bad. So that reaction right there where, and people are feeding OP a lot of bullshit and he believes it all. That is accurate. Anthony's come out and said,

he's got the eight to 10 slot. I guess the guy who was there is running for mayor. So he's filling in for that. And Anthony has laid it out there. It's his foot in the door. He wants to do afternoon. He's hoping to get a two hour afternoon slot on the station Monday through Friday or Monday through Thursday or something.

And he has no problem doing that show and then doing his show that he's still doing on Compound Censored 430 to 6. So that's kind of what his goal was. And this is where he starts. And so Opie right there shows when I'm not jealous of someone, I'll be like, oh, I'm real jealous Other big whole real chill so that okay Wow good for you asshole That tells me a lot right there But let me get into and then I'm gonna backtrack, but I want to get into Opies transition into stuttering junk. I think that it is complete When we watch this clip again from this morning's OP radio stream Mavericks Nico watch this clip again from this morning's OP radio stream.

Mavericks, Nico, hey Nico! How's that trade working out for you down there in Dallas? And I love the fine people in Dallas. They deserve a very, very good basketball team. Nico, what happened? What happened, Nico? What happened? Is he doing this on purpose, Adam? What the fuck? Yeah, he is this is crazy What it's going on? This is oh, but he's just like Carl

Please cover me for an hour every episode please alright. I heard this is what kids are saying Yeah, he doesn't come up with anything new ever so he must be watching John There's no way he just watched that Fred Willard movie and happens to be quoting John doesn't come up with anything either right easy. Yeah So I would think right there Wahapa you're like, okay This is obviously a guy who's turned into stuttering Jen without the drinking problem, but he takes it to the next fucking level This is crazy. Thank you. Would

have to say it at that point, right? Opi versus Anthony in a celebrity boxing match on Netflix. The only way to settle this drama. No offense to Anthony, but he's always been a whip. Oh no, it's only going to explain that you could beat up Anthony. Returning into another boxing match to settle everyone's hash once and for all? I couldn't believe when I heard that. I'm like, that's another way of how he's turning

into stuttering John. That is a guarantee. Me and him in a celebrity boxing match, get out of here. I've worked out my entire life. Show your muscles. I've boxed. I've taken MMA classes. And what has Anthony done? He's worked on his, it worked on his, his, his, his forearms or biceps when he just drink

beer after beer after beer? So it stay away from his right side because he probably has a one Popeye arm from lifted all those blood lights all those years Something a guy doesn't care at all Holy shit. Oh the guy said was a ridiculous thing. He's doing celebrity by too much on Netflix Fundamental definitional problem with Opie being in a celebrity boxing match. You're going with that. Dude never worked out his life. Knock it off with that crap that that those comments make me laugh.

It wouldn't even be close. I used to work down the same gym as Jim Norton, right? Okay, so this is brilliant. So you just heard Anthony's not talked about beating up Opie and all of a sudden just a commenter says, you guys should fight. He's like, I beat the shit out of them. I work out, I'm tough. And then transitions into making fun of Jim Norton, who I will once again remind everyone doesn't say shit about Opie, hasn't brought him up in years.

And Opie who says, leave me alone. Just leave me alone. Can't stop talking about Jimmy. I would, I would see him on machine. Excuse me on machines. And I would just openly laugh how insanely wimpy he was too. And he had a trainer. He was the one plate kid. Clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang. He was that guy. Look up the Brian Regan bid. Yes, I know I'm taking for Brian Regan today. Okay. So there's my evidence that he's fully transitioned. Congratulations.

The fake laughing, the pushing with the laughing when they don't find it funny at all is really disturbing and they both have no skill or talent. You know, Anthony wasn't working his drinking, he was working on his words and his delivery. He was broadcasting and always trying to be funnier and a better broadcaster. You guys would never, I mean, it's weird because we know that John doesn't know that he's not smart, but he also would never get in a debate with anybody. He would never sit down and just actually have a battle of words or of comedy. So they resort to physical violence and crazy threats. And even when you listen back to Opie and Anthony and some of John's stuff, they were around brilliantly funny

people. They were not funny, but they were impulsive. So every once in a while, the comics would bring things to a head, and then Opie would do the impulsive thing, you know, the hanging up or the thing no one should say and everyone would laugh. Now all the comics are gone, it's just Opie doing the impulsive thing with none of the comedy or meaning or motivation behind it. And John's the same way. Yeah, I think there was an interesting telling there as well where Opie couldn't handle the idea that a beginner would have a trainer. I mean, that says a lot about his attitude towards improving your abilities. But when you might be bad at something, you might need some

help and assistance and you know, you slowly get better. Whereas his attitude is no, I'm just I'm just brilliant. Nobody could possibly help me. I've arrived at the top. I've followed Jim Norton for a very long time. I've never heard the dude brag about being tough for working out or I don't think that he would tell you in a second that he's like a gym rat. He knows how to work all the equipment real well.

It's a dumb angle to take for Opie to just be like, he was at my gym and I saw him do a thing because he talked before about hitting the heavy bag. He's like, he can't even punch that hard. It's like, I don't think Jim's training to fight Logan Paul. So she should be fine. It's all good. But yeah, you're right.

Without Reese Witherspoon doing a call in and hope he'd be able to hang up on her for the, uh, the impact that would have. He's got nothing. He just sits there making noises and talking to himself. Stomping on cakes. He sees virtually stopping on cakes now. All right. Let's, let's hear his SNL take because people are talking about how Saturday Night Live, you know, it's in the news, the 50th recently and Shane Gillis hosting and all this stuff. So people are talking about SNL and Opie has this claim about how they lean politically.

You know, for the people that think they lean insanely left, it's just BS. They wouldn't have, you know, edgy comics like Shane Gillis or Bill Burr hosting if they were leaning insanely left. I just have a quick thought of this because that's a terrible take. SNL leans so fucking left that Shane Gillis was fired before he ever got to do a skit on the show and he's proven in the two times he's hosted that he'd be the best cast member on that show. But the woke mafia got him fired.

Bill Burr is as Hollywood as Kevin Hart. Bill Burr works for Disney and Star Wars shows. So to say that Bill Burr is an edgy guy, can you believe SNL has him on? They must not be leaning left. What? There wasn't a single sketch about Hunter Biden. The four years Joe Biden is president, his son is smoking crack and jerking off on hookers and uploading it to you porn. And then it comes out and there's no sketches around that

couldn't come up with one funny ankle for that sort of thing. So I'm just saying I don't agree with his political take on that. All right. This is, uh, talking about, the truth comes out every now and again from the opster. Cause when he talks politics, it's polarizing for him. Hey, I I'll get, I'll get 10 yet. I'll get 10 either. Join me and then I'll say what I'm about to say and then 12 of you will leave It's exhausting to try to build an audience

Especially we're doing it wrong Exhausting trying to build an audience we could tell I'm tired watching you try to do it When you don't have anything to say and you criticize people that have strong opinions Anthony has strong opinions so he's gonna turn off a lot of people and turn on a lot of others you have none so there's no audience for you you can't chase what people like then you don't exist just do what you would want to see I don't think you would watch this OB nopie. No, that's a great point. I wonder if he goes back because he does edit this stuff for his audio podcast. There's no way he's doing that. I don't think so.

Because he would listen back and be like, nah, this is a stinker. Well then, another parallel to such yo. So JFK Headchunk, who I saw in our chat today, he's in the chat this morning, and OP threatens him with a ban because apparently he's spreading misinformation that OP is a liberal. All right, JFK, you're very close to being banned, JFK. Very close. See, there's more BS going on out there that I guess supposedly I'm a lib, which is the dumbest, stupidest thing I've ever heard about me.

So this morning he comes on to talk about Trump's speech last night and proves that he is not a liberal. He's going to say something that's so shocking. No one's going to believe that that's so shocking. I know it was going to believe that open would have this take ours, but it on bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb. All right, let's break down the the state of the union. What do you what do you got? What do you got on this?

You might be surprised, man, because I take my shots at the Trumpster, but I've also taken my shots at the Biden. I've taken my shots at the Kamala Harris. I've taken my shots at the Trumpster, but I've also taken my shots at the Biden. I've taken my shots at the Kamala Harris. I've taken my shots at the Elon Musk. You know, I don't put the blinders on and just follow one ideology. Look at, you know, when your guy goes bad, you don't, you sit there and make believe your guy,

you know, didn't go bad that makes sense Brilliant comment there. I love it when he gets into politics. Give me wabc. It's a knocking down his door to do a morning show on there So opi just said my mind is blown. So give me a second to recoup here. Oh, we just said there's bad politicians on both sides Have you ever heard that on OP before? Smoking hot take. It's divisive. It's crazy. Who could possibly think something like that?

So now he's going to give his honest take on Trump's performance last night. And what you get here is hopefully a bit of a more honest take. And my honest take today is that Trump owned the Dems. Trump owned the Dems last night and he did something. By the way, I hate this thing he's been doing a lot lately. He thinks he's doing a 3D thing. He's constantly shoving his hand into the camera. He did something that I've been talking about for more years than I could count. I've been talking about the state of the union forever. One of my things that I've said a

million times is that it frustrates the hell out of me. No matter who the president is, they get up there, they're talking about America, half the room applauds and stands up. The other half sits there dead and just sit on their hands and do nothing. And that happened again last night. And I said it for years. I said, one of these presidents should fucking call out the other side for not clapping or standing for anything.

And Trump did that last night. And with that move, he owned the Dems. So according to Opie, what Trump did really well last night was a thing that Opie thought he should do. I can believe that he said that a million times. He should be an advisor to the president or something. That's incredible. Brilliant take from the upstart right there.

And what's amazing about his take on the state of the union, because he goes on to say some more real hot takes. None of them involve politics, policy, the economy or anything that people would be interested in. They all involve, you know, aesthetic and like social stuff, the high school dance stuff that people would pick on, like what you're wearing. He thinks, and I know a lot of Democrats and liberals probably wanted to just forget about Trump, it was a mistake, we'll move on. Well now he's back and they're forced to reconcile with this reality and they're trying to find things

they can sound balanced about. And this, he really believes, look at that, I'm pointing my finger is an attempt at that. Take that in laws take that I'm doing this right now. And he really thinks like the pendulum is going to shift and all the Trump fans are running over to his chat right now to get this support that he's offering them. They're not you just sound weak and uninformed. Yeah, his take is very similar to a high school student's going, I did you watch the speech last night? What did you

think? Oh, you know, they shut down L Green, and they got him out of there. It's like, yeah, no, no, no, I know. But like, what about that? What Trump said about what he's gonna do in the next four years, or what he's already accomplished, or the state of his strategy for the country, everything that's going on with Ukraine. Opie does none of those things. He has no idea what's going on. He's the fashion reporter at the Oscars.

He's not qualified to ask about the movies and can only say, what are you wearing? You look great. This is just an interesting thing that happened on the show this morning. Tells me a lot about where Opie's at because, and Opie's been doing this throughout his career, he'll tell you things are going great

and they've never been better, and then you find out later on that things weren't great, and have been better. And this happened again just recently, where Opie's been saying that his numbers are up and things are going great, and then he goes, it's never been better than when Carl Ruiz was on the show.

The things are not as good as they were then. You're like, oh, that's not what you've been telling us all this time. And this is an interesting thing that happens when Paul gets in $1.99. We're gonna applaud or stand up. Oh, my, oh, my Paul with the dollar 99 super sticker Paul take some coffee right in your face. Thank you, Paul. This Paul gives me a $1.99 every day.

What do you guys do? You barely hit the likes. You barely download an episode of the Opie Radio podcast. Audio version of this will be available very, very soon. Actually, if you're listening to this right now on one of the podcast apps, you're like, well, that doesn't make sense. Oh, you said available soon, but I'm listening now. Figure this is interesting. Because I thought and hope he's

always told us the audio version of the podcast is where people listen to him. Because we all see his numbers on YouTube, and they're not great. And so he goes, Hey, I do an audio show. That's what people listen to. And now he's yelling at the people for not downloading his audio show. Meanwhile, he's talking to, it's up to 264 views, it's 11 hours ago. So at the time it had to be a few dozen.

This is not a lot of people. So if he's seeing these numbers and going, why aren't you guys downloading the audio? That tells me that his numbers are atrocious. He kind of gives him a buck 99 and he goes, why isn't everyone doing this kind of thing like oh No, that's it's worse than I thought it was a buck 99 Can you imagine him in that the top floor of that building like blocking the elevator?

Other people because he's got to bend down and pick up a dollar 25 and in quarters yeah while living there. It's hard to put all that together Really is especially his reaction to that Where he's like angry at people who didn't give him money. Where are you guys? Where were you? Man must look at him like All right, well bet I want to thank you again for coming. I was great to meet you, buddy.

Thank you very much for having me. Ben six Smith.com is where you want to go to find more things that Ben is talking about in the critic magazine. All right. Thanks, buddy. And he's out. He took himself out just like that. I want to introduce everyone to Boca Dave joining the show.

What's up, Dave? Thanks for having me guys. Thanks for coming on buddy. And thanks for going to seeca Dave joining the show. What's up, Dave? Thanks for having me, guys. Thanks for coming on, buddy, and thanks for going to see John's stand-up show. Did you have a good time? Yeah, great time. It was with my little birthday present to myself last week. I gotta tell you, I haven't listened to the entire stand-up show yet, but I've listened to a lot of it, and it was a very generous room. People were having fun at John's show. People were hollering and laughing. How many people were in the room for this? It was a smaller room. So I would say maybe like 30 to 40 people. It was sold out. It looked like,

Yeah, I waited and I ended up getting tickets the day of, and it, cause I was worried it might cancel. So I was like, if I'm going to pay this money, I'm gonna make sure he's there. You were able to take the day off though. That's good. Exactly. Glad to hear that. So you go to the show, John's the headliner. And you messaged me and said that the opening acts, some of them were terrible. How many openers were there for John? opening acts, some of them were terrible. How many openers were there for John? They were three women and one man. So one opening act. Yeah, they were just bombing nonstop and you could tell like the audience wasn't giving

them much and they like kept acknowledging the bombing. The only one that was half decent was the last girl I told you she was Jackie Mason's daughter. So she at least had some kind of comedic chops, but everybody else was just bomb after bomb. You would think she'd be top billing just for being Jackie Mason's daughter over stuttering John but what do I know? She's no kid. John is in love with her and really trying to become a father figure to her. Right. Exactly. I didn't know your father, but he knew me. No. So Dave, I want to get your take on these things. I'm going to start playing some clips

of the show. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it because obviously you witnessed this in real time. By the way, props on the record. It sounds great. Yeah. It was funny because we got there about five, 10 minutes before the show started and I came in through the front door by accident, not realizing he was in a smaller room. And as we go in, who's right in front of me? Stuttering John stumbles out the front door with double fist and two drinks. He's ready to go. the front door with double fist and two drinks. He's ready to go. And I was with my friend who doesn't follow Dabbleverse, but he knows the Howard Stern show from back in the day. And I was like, dude, you see that who that was? He's like, who? I was like that old guy with the two beers. That's Stunner and John. He's like, no way. He's unrecognizable, right? Like if you knew

the E show, there's no way you're recognizing John. Exactly. If I wasn't watching the show, I wouldn't know who he was. How tall is John, do you think, in your estimation? I would say five, six tops. OK, you did take a photo with him. I didn't put that in my package here to show. How tall are you? I'm about five, eight to five, nine. Okay. All right. Yeah. That story.

What was, what was the odor like? Was it pungent or? The thing is, I took the picture. I didn't realize that the whole time I was watching the show, his underarms were sweating heavily. So when he took the picture with me, I didn't realize he was sweaty on their arm was right on top of my shoulder. Did he charge you extra for that? All right. I'm very curious about everything you observed before we get into the stand up.

Anything you observed about him walking around or I would love to know. Cause I think you could learn a lot about any performer by what they're doing before and after the show. Yeah, he definitely kept coming in and out especially while the the openers were performing. He kept coming in and kind of standing on the side so people kept looking over and yeah, he definitely was started drinking before I got there and as soon as we go into the to the right area they had a security guard dressed up like SWAT and he was just kept reminding people don't wear, don't record, put your phones

away. Make sure you're not recording. Oh, he must've told them. He's reminding people himself. He's standing there for once. Yeah. Like John told them in advance. Yeah, for sure. Well, that actually leads into this and Adam, please feel free to ask questions throughout this, but actually leads into this and please feel free to ask questions throughout this. But this leads into, obviously John gave a lot of instructions to people because the host of the show brings John on and you don't hear this very often. Oh, for the big car liner. All right. You know, and loved him on the Howard Stern show and the tonight show with Jane Leno,

two shows, which he also wrote for. Please put your hands together for Stuttering John Melendez. You don't think that came up in her research? Uh, did anyone pick up on this part? Two shows which he also wrote for. Make sure you say, I also wrote for the show. It's like, yeah, it's Stuttering John from the Howard Stern Show. Great. He also wrote some of the bits. Okay, whatever. I know him from the Howard Stern show Never heard a comic do that before. Yeah, also say you loved him from these shows, right? It's very important So I thought that was a tell right there that John is demanding some respect right out of the get-go

Listen to how he starts his set. He starts it as if he's already been up on stage for 20 minutes So anyway, let's do this show down here, shall we? Anyway, let's do a big Danish skål! There we go. So anyway! Yeah, and you see they laugh because that's funny. If that was actually a joke That's to come up on stage and go so anyway as if you were in the middle of thought is a strong opener He has no idea Like that was strange. Oh, he doesn't know why they're even laughing because he has no idea

He so longs to be like a legend who's over it He so just wants to be that guy who doesn't have to give you much in an interview who can just kind of you know Go through his back. I was last year. Yeah, just fuck Fast and everyone will cheer they don't care you have to actually do something You have to get on stage and just have some kind of presence. Give one joke, then you can relax before you're over it. It hasn't even started yet and he's out the door. Also, he's trying to get the skull thing going. He wants that to be his getter done. Because you know, he's friends with Larry, the cable guy for now. And so Dave, how many times

did he yell skull throughout his set? Do you think at least 20 times? Like my friend who was next to me, he's like, why does he keep yelling that? He couldn't understand why he kept yelling. It's his sign. It's his hamburger. He really thinks that that's going to catch on. People are like, skull, like that's the school guy. Oh, it's a lack of material. I gotcha. You don't think that catchphrases and stand up in 2025 is a good idea?

Just get everyone to yell that out with you. So he plants that seed very early. Guys, this is a Danish thing. When I drink my beer, I yell Skull. I want everyone to participate in that. People are confused by this. It's like, okay, we're here to watch you do comedy We're not drinking buddies

But okay John stumbles right out of the gate Well, I am stuttering john and thank you all for coming. I see we have a lot of marriage folks here I mean, this is the guy who corrects people's spelling. I see a lot of marriage folks here Can you dumb it down for me? What's a marriage folks? fucking idiots I mean how long you guys been married?

You're not married Where'd you guys meet? At the library. What the fuck is that? So he has books. Already. Already the audience member is funnier than John. Yeah. Where did you guys meet at the library? It's like, oh! Again, it's a funny response to that. And John had nothing for it.

This was his response to, where did you guys meet at the library? A library? How about you guys? Oh my God. Why did you ask? It would be so easy to put a joke together. And by the way, isn't this the man who says Bob Levy isn't even a comic because he's legendary for doing brilliant crowd work.

He didn't even tell a joke. He got on stage, he dropped his name which he feels is very important and then looked around and said, what do you got? Marriage, you go. And then the person actually gave him something decent and he went, Ugh, fuck it, what about you? I know, how do you not cope with something for a library? For a joke right there, that's anything.

That's what you hope for. And he led with, so yeah, I am Sudary John. I think he was waiting for applause there. It's like, yeah, we know, we know you're headlining. You fucking idiot. He's looking down at his note card, hold for applause. Okay. So yeah, he immediately does crowd work to start this show. Did you find that odd Dave when you were there? Yeah, I thought he would go straight into the jokes, but, uh, and,

but he's literally he's asking like a bunch of seniors in the front So this is the rest of him responding to library Ten years so you stop fucking a while ago This is John's got to how long you been married. Are you still fucking? We've been covering this for a long time. They said they've been married 10 years. He goes, oh, so you stopped fucking a while ago. And people like, yeah, pretty good. Pretty good stuff.

So now he's looking around. Is there anyone here who's happily married? Don't we got this guy? Is this your boyfriend? No, we're friends. Ah, friends, huh? And who's this guy? I have no idea.

Why are you just friends? Because I'm looking at it. Is this dick really small? Come on, be honest. Is anyone happily married here? Liar. How long have you been married? 58 years.

58 years? Holy shit. That's all he's got. He starts out the show with this crowdwork just to be like, are you fucking still? That's the only thing he's got. And I have to call him out on his math on this. Yeah, because the couple was married for 10 years, been a while since you've had sex. A couple of them married for 58 years. Oh, so it's been like 30 years since you've had sex. 28 years of fucking is doing all right. Yeah, I wish that sounds amazing. But no not quite So I think he's confused at what his own joke is He doesn't know and I love how fast he gave up on that one guy's like well, what about you?

Everything everyone says is a disappointment to him Comment on it. He goes, uh, like I don't know what he's expecting to hear what the right answer is John I'm starting to think he's a one-trick pony When it comes to the crowd work portion of his show, what's the trick? It's just a pony All right. This is getting into some hack material stuff that we've heard before No, I'm divorced. I was married 13 years, three great years. I should have known it wasn't gonna work when she picked our

wedding song to be Little Miss can't be wrong. This is Do you guys remember the hack era of the devil verse? when Kevin Brennan was yelling hack all the time and John couldn't stop himself from yelling hack because he was watching Kevin Brennan and emulating him? John is the definition of a hack comic. These jokes are so bad. I should have known I was in for a rough patch when my wife's wedding song was Little Miss Can't Be Wrong. Huh? wedding song was Little Miss Can't Be Wrong. Huh? Also, they're not good jokes, but they're actual jokes compared with his crowd work. True.

And he can't say them fast enough. Yes. He's just got to get through it. Yeah. They're told with the delivery of a suffocating gargoyle who like these are his last words before he just gets choked to death. Let me ask you Dave, this audience is very, very kind and really responsive and probably the best audience he could ever have for something like this.

Who are these people? It was definitely an older crowd and the openers kept encouraging them to just start drinking early, get the waitress out there, get everyone drinks. But it was definitely an older crowd. I think the few young people that were there were, I think, strictly for the Dablaverse. When I was leaving, one of the young kids I saw outside, he's like, you guys know about Dablaverse? I'm like, yeah, we know about the Dablaverse. That's hilarious. I'm trying to sell you drugs.

Versus you guys not like you know about the devil verse There is a world where John just takes this thing on tour I've talked about before Tommy was so when he finally embraced it He just started going and showing the room and doing a Q&A and stuff. There's a scenario Where stuttering John shows up places people are following him around with the dead. Oh, yeah Plus he looks like he's dead So there's some synergies there Yeah, and one too many becomes like the room like he would have to embrace it in a way He would have to do a q a an actual q a where people ask him questions that he has to answer

He would have to open himself up in ways that he won't it's very interesting that the last time he played the Boker, there was like six people there, including Scott the Engineer. And now there's so many people there. And they were smart to, they obviously put bad openers intentionally. They knew what they were doing. It's like when the person can't dance so the dancers behind them are not doing very well, they They gotta tone it down. They obviously were smart. They got them drunk. They put a bunch of openers that weren't gonna be good and then just sent him out there. I mean, he should be killing right now. This is as good as he's ever gonna have it. Yeah, this audience wants to laugh. And that's the thing about comedy audiences in general. They paid money, they made a decision, they're gonna go out, watch a comedy show. They want to enjoy themselves. They're giving you the benefit of the doubt.

You're the one on stage with the microphone. And that was the thing that we talked about with Ricky Melton, the other show that John did, where the audience was with him at first. Like, all right, this is a comedy show, something John, all right, cool. And then like halfway through, they're like, what the hell is he talking about?

He told me to fuck off that he sneezed on me yeah That'll do it That will certainly do it All right this next clip is a longer clip, but I had to pull the whole thing Because he's gets into dick jokes here, and he goes the log way He doesn't take any shortcuts to get to the dick jokes. He takes the scenic route But I mean look God bless you. I don't take any shortcuts to get to the dick jokes. He takes the scenic route. But I mean, look, God bless you. I don't know how you do it. Where the

blacks at? Oh, we got one black. Oh, there we go. Hey, Kramer moment didn't you cross my mind. More cross sounds weird when he says it. Yeah. I'm not sure what they say about the blacks and know it's a stereotype but when I was married my wife convinced me to go like we went to Hawaii she convinced me to go to a spa you know so I sat in the spa I'm sitting this in the like all the guys are naked you would love it all the guys are naked I'm sitting in the seaweed bath feeling great, you know, because I'm pretty well endowed, you know. I'm four inches.

Flaccid. This black guy came out of the shower, his dick had a dick. His balls were on a fucking dolly. This is the most hacked dick jokes you could write. I mean, they didn't even write these jokes. These jokes have always write. I mean, they didn't even write these jokes. Jokes have always existed. Yes. Black guys have a big penis and Asian guys, not so much. If he said it like that, that would have been funny. Yes. But that's why I talked about how long it would be there. I think blacks here, just to get to that thing. I went to this thing. There's a spa. I have a four inch penis. Jesus

Christ. If he's aware of anything, it's the time and how he has to fill it. And that's why he is so repetitive and speaking so slowly. But the really worst part is that he calls himself a comedian, but he's been doing it for so long. And he still hasn't decided if he's the character with the big dick or the tiny dick. He can't make up his mind. If he's the king who beds every woman in town or if he's the insecure loser that got kicked on and beat up in high school. Were you Marty McFly or were you a loser?

He just wants to be whatever will get this joke from the joke book across so I can move on. Yeah, he has a very hard time. Even in that set that we talked about when he was in St. Petersburg, he has a very hard time even in that set that we talked about when he was in St. Petersburg. And he goes, I'm a married man. And he does a joke. And he's like, but I'm divorced. And he does a joke. So whatever suits the joke, I guess you have a big penis when there's a dick joke about an Asian guy. But

then I don't know. I can't figure it out. Well, that's how he is in life to whatever suits the narrative. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. He does it with the woke stuff to depending on who he's talking to is what he finds offensive. He's also pretty drunk, right, Dave? Yeah, you could tell like about halfway through the show, he asked for a guy to bring him another drink. He's like, I can't I can't be sober. Keep the drinks coming. See, ever put his beard down. He's like, I can't, I can't be sober. Keep the drinks coming. See, I ever put his beard down. He's holding it the whole time, right?

Actually, I was pretty impressed that he didn't spill the beer once considering that he was clinging around talking with his arms and he had that drink in his hand pretty much the entire show. But yeah, he, I go to a lot of comedy shows, Hannibal Burris this Friday. I'm excited. Mm-hmm, and I've never seen a comic hold on to an alcoholic beverage throughout their entire set ever John is the only one I've seen do this It's less like a comic and more like John McCain where he doesn't really have control over that side of his body And it's just kind of holding it all together, you know stick a beer in that claw hand so it can just remain looking normal. Well speaking

of getting older. But it sucks now you know I'm getting older I know you can't tell because I look so young for my beverage. What? Like you know you can't I have all the almonds the almonds the hemorrhoids you got the hemorrhoids? What the fuck is he saying? Okay well maybe we have to listen to that one again because the first joke I can't I've never heard anything like this before. Let's let's listen closely. But it sucks now, you know, I'm getting older. I know you can't tell, because I look so young for my beverage. The word age is hidden in... Beverage ends with age, but it's not pronounced age.

So it doesn't work. Maybe it works on paper? Maybe? But I don't think so. You're thinking down here. You gotta think up here You know this is a man having a stroke and you're trying to put meaning behind it It's just glitching out and free associate look good for my beverage like Where she got us a standing ovation right then just a fuck Shit this is where I gotta go with this from now on would play It's my new thing and then listen I am become beverage Like you know you can I have all the elements the elements

Elm rights All the elements yeah, you don't have them. I don't have all the elements alright, okay I wish try to collect them all so he goes into the hemorrhoid stuff. I didn't pull all the jokes here We've heard these before, you know, he talks about the wiping his ass and it's chocolate covered cherry But what but this one I? Wasn't gonna pull it and then went back. I'm like no no we have to listen to this cuz I was gonna describe it I don't know. I've heard him tell this joke before it's not a joke, by the way When my

My wife would go down on my ass She'd come up with a mouth full of blood. There's seven things wrong with that six word joke What did it be she'd look like a Go down on a man's ass no, you know, okay. All right You'd also wouldn't let your wife do that if you had bloody hemorrhoids Don't do that. I Don't think it'd be fun for either party involved in that and then this idea That she comes up with a mouthful of blood. It's like well, yeah

Yeah, your asshole is bleeding more like this idea that that's a joke is fascinating. Wow, then he goes enjoy your appetizers. As if people are eating appetizers. But okay, whatever. You know, people got offended at the Oscars because Adrian Brody threw his gum at his girlfriend. Right? Like, even if it happened, you're sharing it with everybody. Is it a brag? Or is it a confession? What is this? That's where he lost the crowd at the other show when he told that whole story about the birth of his son and New Year's Eve party and she's making, you know, making the food

and washing the dishes. Nine months pregnant, water breaks. Like, come on, Toots, we want dessert over here. And I was just like, ugh. You're not reading the room well. And he proved that he's not really a monster. He is just doing comedy by telling the woman who groaned to fuck off.

They detected that that was a true story, I think. I don't fuck off. All right, so now we're going to get into colonoscopy jokes. You guys do this colonoscopy shit That's a pain in the ass I'm sorry There isn't a better definition of a hack joke than a colonoscopy is a pain in the ass For John to say that on a stage is putting up a flag to saying, I am a hack comedian, and there's no if, ands, or buts about this.

Gypsy buts. That's pretty good, right? See how I did that? And the reason it's not just it's deeply offensive and it makes me so angry is because all I can think of is what he accuses Jackie Martling of doing, of how he claims he's a better comedian than Artie. He says Artie doesn't write his own material.

He says Anthony's not a comedian. Like it's one thing to be making a celebrity appearance and pretending to be a comedian and sheepishly taking the money and running away. It's another thing to stand here and call yourself the second coming of Lenny Bruce while doing just fortune cookie material. When Chrissy Mayer said he dabbled in comedy that should have been a compliment right? Yeah thank you. He's not even close to dabbling in comedy with a colonoscopy as a pain-in-the-ass joke. He should be

embarrassed. Also you laughed at the setup of this only John could do this You guys have routine procedures and stuff Yeah, who hears had a screening, huh? Yeah Anybody who has it's not a fun topic Your teeth cleaned Yeah, yeah, what the fuck you talking about? Yeah, and it's an old it's the room is old Who you got bad news from the doctor today, huh? You guys do this

That's gonna go on the board you guys do this colonoscopy shit Okay, so that he talks about why colonoscopies are not enjoyable It's not it's not that giant camera they put up your ass and then It's that fucking drink Do you guys know what this is that drink they give you? It's like that like kind of cream like sec cloudy they gave you. It's like that, like kind of creamy, like cloudy, you know, it's salty and they drink it. Jewish women would spit it out. Think about it.

John makes the obvious come joke and then goes, think about it. As if we're like why would a Jewish woman oh oh intriguing I didn't realize that she was going this also I had a problem with the setup of this the giant camera they shove in your ass so that a Betamax from 1984 didn't think it was big enough actually. Got lost in there unfortunately. So that didn't make any sense to me. But I love the fact that he came up with the, you know, the problem is, is this drink you have to drink and you shit your brains out. That's the uncomfortable part of a colonoscopy. They put you out for the procedure and that's not a big deal. But John's got another joke on this one. And when I say, heck, I can't spell it

with a big enough capital H for this one right here. But you gotta clean your colon, right? Like either you drink this or you go to Chipotle. I mean, it's one or the other. Home run, Comey, home run. Guys, you could either drink this drink, or because of this, eat a burrito. He needs it because it's the most modern reference in his

entire act. True. True. He did update that from Taco Bell at one point. And when there's this chipotle chain that's been catching on, maybe only on that joke for some reason everything is still VHS DVD yeah, grunting porn like that I put a burrito in the microwave and took a shit in the toilet as it was cooking Dave I don't think he's ever had a colonoscopy. I don't think he's done. I think his friends have he's heard about it There's no way He made the time in his day to do that or did it at home and sent it in or whatever you got to do

There's no way he just heard about it God that poor doctor had to perform that thing Dave at this point I'm just picturing it being an audience member and he's talking about colonoscopy in a pain in the ass and your Bolt way cleaning you out. How hard are you rolling your eyes or are you laughing along with everyone else? Like how are you absorbing this material? To me it was just kind of like, like surreal. Like you hear him bombing on the show and on his podcast and it was just kind of just sitting there just watching him bomb the person and kind of just appreciating the moment. Like my friend was laughing more because he's

new to it. He hasn't heard these jokes a thousand times like I did. So he was laughing a little more, but you can't see from the video, but almost every joke where he doesn't get her laugh, he does that fake laugh. He did it so many times. Yeah. That was one of the things I was wondering about is are there enough dabblers there who are laughing this off because it's so bad that they're enjoying it? After a while people were screaming Skull like with what he was not asking for it. So again, he's onto something here. This next joke, I think it's worded incorrectly.

I think this guy, I don't want to, Tom Meyer is it like we always do, and say, well, you gotta move this over here, but definitely this could be worded better. And then this goddamn thing they put up your ass. How many, how many assholes has this camera seen? Jesus Christ, it's gotta be more than a Scientology convention. Hacker, hacker!

How many assholes is this camera scene It's gotta be more than a Scientology convention Wouldn't it be like this asshole this camera see more assholes and you know, and now you deliver that kind of joke No, yeah, they're making a two-parter Maybe again Adam it maybe just, Adam, maybe he's just stretching for time. He's just turning every joke as many words as possible, I suppose. Think about it. And then the pause is that's a good 10, 15 seconds right there. All right. This next joke, again, not an up todate joke by any means,

but it is probably more relevant than most of the things he talks about. But then, I'm telling you, you don't feel the pipe up your ass because they give it a shrug. Just fucking drunk. It's amazing. It's like they say, count down to 10

by the time you get to eight, you fucking passed out. You don't feel any better. This drug is so good, it was endorsed by Bill Cosby. Oh, come on, it's a fucking joke. Scowling! Dave, is that you laughing at that is that your buddy? It's telling someone at your table. That was my buddy.

He's hearing it for the first time. This fucking Bill Cosby joke is just like holy shit. When was Bill Cosby in the news for this stuff? 12 years ago? That was a little bit more recent. Was it? Yeah. Alright so props to John for- It's still a new joke for him isn't it? It's a? Yeah. All right. So props to John for-

It's still a new joke for him, isn't it? It's a new one. I've heard that. Right. Sounds a little bit newer. This one right here just falls apart. This is a disaster. Then the other thing that happens, the other thing that's even worse, I swear to God, ladies,

I mean, I'm 59. How old are you, sir? 58. There you go. I swear. Ladies, I'm embarrassed to say this. I was having sex with a guy who was a little bit older than me. I was having sex with a guy who was a little bit older than me. I was having sex with a guy who was a little bit older than me. I was having sex with a guy who sir? 58. There you go. I swear. Ladies, I'm embarrassed to say this.

I was having sex with a girl. She's embarrassed. Literally I was like, holy shit, my arms can't stay up that way anymore. And I faked an orgasm. Now, I'm telling you ladies, we don't have any experience. You guys have it down. So I faked the orgasm, and I was like, she's like, you didn't just come.

I go, yeah, I did, no you didn't. See, this is why. See, women have been, you guys have been taught to be great actors This is why Mel Street was nominated every fucking year for the Academy Award You guys are taught to be great actors But anyway, I thought I was Went and I didn't realize it. Yeah, you guys were taught to be great I thought that was gonna be the punch on them. You guys were taught to be great actors

Scott Anyway, I had the skull and I used to be married or his default like I don't know what to do. He just says those when he's little fuck off Dude, he just says those when he's frozen. Oh, fuck off. It sounds like he forgot where he was going or what he was doing with that. He just blanked out. I gotta back that up real quick. This is why Mel Streep is nominated every fucking year for the Academy Award.

You guys are taught to be great actors. But anyway, I digress. So I was married You know I I was married for 13 years as I said and and and my wife You know like I don't blame her for leaving me Wow That was a debacle. Every single way. Holy shit.

That train went right off the tracks. Another crutch of his is when he starts going fucking. Yeah. Fucking fucking hell. He does that a lot. Filler. When he doesn't know what to say. The faking orgasm thing was just went nowhere.

So bad. It didn't land the way he expected it to. And he doesn't realize that what he's implying is that every girl that slept with you, John has had to fake an orgasm. There's someone in that room that's like, no, not everyone I've slept with. So I don't know what you're talking about. It's not just a given that they're all full of shit. Maybe it's just with you, John. Yeah, they're not being taught. It's a necessity.

On their wedding day, when their mother sits them down and explains to them how to fake pleasure and pretend you like the person that you're married to. Yeah, so you got to get rid of the ring around the collar. I got a thing for that. You got to fake orgasms. I'll help you with that thing. Also, now let's talk about the blood,

because there's going to be a lot of it. It's going to get all over your face. Oh God. So then John goes into the whole thing about how short his family is, which I think is interesting only because John claims to be five, eight and a half and we all know he gets taller every year. Yeah, we all know that he's smaller than that. But this is him talking about that and starts talking about his grandparents. My grandparents were the last two surviving members of the Lollipop Guild. Is that the oldest reference in this set? It's gotta be right. 1939. We were almost at a hundred years for this one.

Tippecanoe and Tyler too. My sister, I swear to God is for eight she's she's legally a dwarf To give an idea how short she is my son is already taller than her and he's five Nope Your son is 18 or 19 and going to Hartford oh No This is he's still using that joke like you just gotta update it with something or lose the joke No, the joke's not great either. My son's already taller and he's five

45 minutes Chris he's got at least 45 minutes to kill I saw you guys still fucking fucking in the bathroom now should we all go check? Tell me more about this library I saw Uncle Rico show because they got the audio from the night before this so it's a same set but different which is interesting. They were bringing it down on Uncle Rico Show.

And I don't know if it was Mike or Zan who was just like, dude, just steal the Danny DeVito joke. You could have it. People would like that. My sister's so short, you know, go up with something about Danny DeVito. Not your five-year-old son that hasn't been the case in 13 years.

It's so weird. In a couple ways. But it just shows you how dated all this material is. All right. This is him just stammering. I just thought this was hilarious. But yeah, but yeah, I don't like like, like, like, like, that's just a full on panic attack. Now he's turning into OP. What the fuck is that? That is such an OP right there. We know John is stuttering John. But this is beyond that. But yeah, but yeah,

I don't like like, like, like, like, I'm so jealous of you, Dave. I got a note from my buddy Vinny Paulino this morning because I was teasing that we're gonna have Dave on and we're gonna play this stuff when I was on with Drew yesterday and he's like what do I got to do to be a part of one of these breakdowns of John stand-up? Funny. And I said I don't know maybe you could go to the Ohio show and get us some. Yeah! And I was like fuck I want to go to that too so maybe we'll make a trip out of it go to see because I really do want to see this live. This is incredible

So now we get to the part where he's talking about the the fat chick missy that he hooked up with it We've all heard this bit before I get nothing against fat chicks nothing against fat chicks I once had the best blowjob from a fat chick Figured she was hungry or something, but I take And brought it back to my house. She blew me again. Her name was Missy. She blew me again. She goes, John, now what are you gonna do for me? So I baked the lasagna. That's, that's so dumb. I can't believe he's still doing that joke. He's been doing that joke his entire stand-up. And he still thinks that's his a material.

I know it's sad. He gave the punchline a different delivery and he added the name Missy for some reason. No Missy's been in that joke for a long time. And the reason why I know that is because Missy B and Anthony went to see him at governors or whatever that it was in Long Island he was performing. And Missy, he was performing and Missy thought he was making the joke about her guy very affected by it

Because you know they were hanging out before that and shit is just like well now you're calling the fat chick It's like your dick missy. It's like now. He probably should have changed And he just kept it to me The name gives it doesn't help the joke in any way and the name missy is not Joke right And just that intro that I'm fine with fat girls. Don't groan. They're fine Yeah, I let them suck my dick and then I call them out for being obese. It's great I'm good. He has no idea that people are laughing at how obnoxious that is just like back in the day. He has no idea that a lot of those laughs are wow Look at this guy. He thinks that's funny

I'll remind everyone you are the least funny person I've ever met. You are not funny. Okay, you're obnoxious. Okay, not funny Thank you Howard. Thanks for reminding us. This is the last clip I have because Dave I got to 10 minutes in and I said This is enough. We got to break this up into different. There's too much to get to here, but this is still talking about the fat chick. You're beating like a double cheese whopper deluxe or something in calories. But now, I'm nothing against fat pills. I love old people. Everybody, let's do the David Skull. Skull! He saved himself there. He got out of that bit. The skull. But no, seriously though, fat chicks.

I went down there and it's like a double whopper deluxe. A sandwich doesn't exist. That was, that was something else. He tells a joke later on about driving in the car with his kid in the back seat in the car seat while stoned. And this is so dated. He his when's the last time he's been around his kids, let alone driven with them in the car seat. And it sounds like the only joke he might have written recently because it's about LA traffic. I don't know. It's it's really bad. But he doesn't know what he's doing. I actually have that one. I played it on Drew show last night. Here's a little

bonus for us. Drinking and smoking weed does not, it doesn't work, sir. I know you're a big fucking stoner, but it doesn't work. You know, because you always get paranoid, right? Smoking weed. It was like the other night, like I'm sitting there going, I know there's a cop behind me. I know there's a cop behind me. Then I pull out of the driveway. I know there's a cop behind me. I know there's a cop behind me. Then I pull out of the driveway But it's weird and then you know and then you're fucking Okay, who's the idiot that put the big wall?

Next to the fast lane, but the grass next to the slower But you ever notice that you drive I'd be driving in the fast lane, stoned, and you got the wall on the side of you, you got cars in the other, and I'd be paranoid thinking I'm Luke Skywalker flying to the goddamn Death Star. I got my son straps in the back like R2-D2. Fucking hell. That right there killed the mood. Just like, oh he's driving dangerously on the expressway while he's high. He's like, yeah my son's in the bag. Wait, what? Oh. Why is this? You know jokes don't have to be real. Yeah, but I don't like it anyway. I don't even like the fake version of that. What are you doing? Fucking hell! School! Fucking hell! Alright, moving on!

Can we go back to the jokes where you're beating your wife as opposed to murdering your kid and vehicular manslaughter? So, some of my research today was finding new drops like Bojack Horseman. What a hack! Kortstuke. Hacker, hacker! Rick Sanchez. Whoa, whoa, whoa, what am I, a hack? Roger the alien.

So thank you. All funnier than john. Thank you, john for helping me find some new hack drops on there. And Dave, thank you very much for calling the show. Did you see the end of the set? Did you see what show what joke he finished the set with? I did not yet. I'm saving that. What do we got? Which one you think is most famous joke? Did he do the squeegee bit? Yeah, he picked up his shirt. It looked like it was freshly shaven and gave him the big. Oh, wow. Goodbye, Joe. I can't wait to hear the reaction to that. Did it go over well? Yeah, like I said, most people heard it for the first time. So it was a little, it's, he's funny when you hear him for the first time, but uh,

What's that? Well, Dave, thank you very much for coming out. We'll definitely play the rest of that in the upcoming episodes. So thank you for getting that audio. It sounds fantastic. Like I said. Thanks for having me guys. Appreciate thank you for getting that audio. It sounds fantastic, like I said. Thanks for having me guys. Appreciate it. Have a great time. Anything you want to promote? No, just love the show. Love Adam joining the show and looking forward to more episodes. Awesome. Is that Clearwater Chad in the room with you? Yeah. Who's that? That's my daughter. Oh, no, no need. Say hi. Hi. Hi, Dave's daughter. All right, thanks, Matt.

Thanks for coming on. Thanks, guys. Have a good one. All right, you too, buddy. Christian, welcome to the show, Christian Blatt. Hey, great to be here. Great to see everyone. Thank you for having me back.

You did a phenomenal job last week for our sixth episode, because you got Frenchy Hanna to pay tribute to WATP. Welcome to Peer Genuine where we dive into authentic experience like never before. Yes. Yes. It's your host right here. Frenchy Hana. Yes. Now, Christian, brilliant job on getting Frenchy to record that for us. Thank you. I assume that that's going to come out of our budget for this year? Well, it's going to have to because, you know, producer Chris wouldn't own up to the role

he played in there. I texted both him and Lucy and hoping that they'd talk me out of it. Lucy said, no, no, no, it's too much money. And Chris was like, Oh, I'm never going to try to talk you out of anything. Do it. So I did indeed give Frenchy on $150. All right, we will take care of that. That could come out of the WTP funds. Thank you. Money well spent, my friend. Right. Well, it came after trying to get Tom Myers to record something. And I asked him, and I sent him a whole thing, and I don't know if it'll come up on the screen. I don't know the way we're sharing it.

So I go into a whole thing, and he just responds with his Venmo. And I was like, okay, well, yeah. I was like, all right, just let me know how much it is. And he goes, it's called sarcasm. You probably can't afford me. And all I did was I wrote back, Tom, I could definitely afford you, but you know what? I'm going to take the amount I was going to give you,

double it and give it to Jeff Heisen. And then he blocked me. Ah, well done. That's hilarious. And that's a good joke, okay Another thing I was going to pull but we had too much to get to today from Tom show this morning that I was watching is That Tom now has a scroller Going that shows all of his top donators remember

He's not even monetized yet on YouTube already trying to grip the audience. The scroll has two contributors on it. It just continues to scroll across two people's names, the dollar amounts that they gave him. It's like, Tom, you're trying to play in the big leagues here and you're still using a milk carton for a glove. That's not how any of this works. All right. I'm sorry. No, enough about Tom. I love that you tried that, Christian. Good instincts. But so then I was just like, Not enough about time. I love that you tried that Christian good instincts. But so then I was just like, Oh, fuck it. I'm gonna reach out to Frenchy Hanna. And so you get we love Frenchy and the idea that I was going to get to talk to her. So this is when I first

get to talk to her. Oh, hi. How are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. You got me. I'm here. Just look how happy she is to be talking to somebody. I'm twice as happy to get the chance to talk to her.

Getting the chance to talk to Frenchie. I do want to get to the moment I basically did this to you. This is the accounting Carl so that this is basically saving my 155. There's the 150. Okay. I really did. And, you know, again, I, I don't regret it.

But so I sent her a script. And as you'll know from the video that did get submitted for the 600. She maybe had some issues reading it. And Adam, you had some interesting insight. You thought that this was an Orson Welles frozen peas commercial where there was a lot of directing going on here. No, I did absolutely no directing.

I gave her a script and then you're seeing me now. I just jumped off camera and I wanted to let Frenchie find her voice. This is her character and I wanted to let Frenchie find her voice. You know, this is her character And I wanted to let her have this performance Okay Yes, it's me Frenchie Hanna Hello to carol and chris and andy and lucy and vinnie by the way, she every time called you carol I figured it was not my job to correct

her on that. Talk about retarded. And everyone celebrating 600 episodes. As a podcaster myself, it's a great accomplishment to do that many episodes of a podcast. Here's to 600 more episodes, here to 6,000 more episodes. Please give them some... Okay, so then she starts reading stage directions. By the way, you might realize that that hysterical joke, here's to 600 episodes, here's to 6,000 episodes, that didn't make it in the final cut that kind of got lost when she did her next. You never said like, look at the camera or anything like that, like get the gist of it and just kind of do it.

She's an artist. We've appreciated her entire body of work. Good point. So yeah, you know, I do you want to tell Adrian Brody to stop talking after five minutes? No, yes. All right. Well, you tried to move off multiple times. You look at the art of sit about a little differently than the rest of us do. But there's a couple of tries. I'm not going to make you watch every single one. But I should probably post this whole video at some point. Myself, it's a great accomplishment to do that many episodes of a podcast.

As a podcaster myself, it is a great accomplishment to all renew. So I want to point out that was not in her script twice. She just read it twice. Perhaps I'm a retard. Perhaps. But maybe, you know what they say, Carl, eighth time's a retard. Perhaps. But you know, maybe you know what they say Carl, eight times a charm. Okay, here we go. Yes, it's me Frenchy, Hannah. Hello, hello to Carol and Chris and Andy and Lucy and Vinny and everyone

celebrating 600 episodes. As a podcaster myself, it's a great accomplishment to do that many episodes of a podcast. Here to celebrate 600 episodes, here to 6,000 more episodes. Joke's funnier every time now what makes it to be a good We give them some advice. Okay Okay, now I feel like I'm just being mean yeah, I agree like this is a lot of work Here she got a hundred and fifty dollars Carl. How much money did she get the rest of the week? I'm impressed that she's literate. I had no idea so that was actually the the big surprise All right. So now you saw the video itself. Everybody saw it in episode 600. So this is after, you know, she probably assumes we're not recording anymore. But again, I am being a little mean here. Oh yeah, that's how

she says hackamania. Yeah. That's great. The one thing I'll ask is the thing from the end, just say, That's great. The one thing else I'll ask is the thing from the end just say Welcome to hack mania Oh Okay, here we go. Well go to hack a mania. I'm just hoping the whole weekend starts with that. But yes My board buddy very much Everybody will appreciate that. Yeah, and I hope you're Back out there putting out more podcasts soon. Okay. Now you ended up having this scoop. I was so excited That's why I didn't clip this part because you had in the 600

She I guess mapped out the plans for the future. Yeah, you had a better understanding than I think frenchie did when she told me this Oh, thank you. Thank you It was she for thank you. I'm watching my videos and having interest into them. Yes, but anymore Videos coming out very very soon for you and all all around the world and nation. Yeah All right. Well all around and all around the world and nation. And again, I did have the instinct that we were done, but I wasn't going to stop recording. And I also wasn't going to tell her what button to push. How do we mean? I realize I don't belong on this screen. You know, I might steal some of the spotlight. Well done.

I've learned a few things over the year. Shut up. That's enough of that. All right. So what did you learn? What would you do differently next time? Well, I so here's the one thing that I didn't want to put in the script, the words who are these podcasts, because I didn't know if she'd seen videos that you had clipped out.

So I didn't want to scare her off. So I did tussle with that. And that that is probably an oversight. Maybe at the end, I should have gotten a WATP out of her. That's the only thing I feel like I would have done different. But Adam, should I have done for a performer like that? Should I have done more to help her find her voice there?

No, you want to let her do whatever she thinks is right. I love that you got the private moment in public at the end there. Did she ask to see the Venmo? Is that why you showed it to her? Yeah, yeah. Well, so you said I paid you and she said let me see it. Well, yeah. Well, no. So that was it was mostly for the camera that I wanted to show how much money I gave her that I didn't give to Tom Myers. That was part of it. But also, she wanted me to pay her first. And I love Franciana. but I said, no, you know what? Let's meet up in a StreamYard link.

And then once we start talking, I'll pay you that. And she didn't have Venmo, she didn't have PayPal. I got Cash App just to be able to pay Frenchy Hana. So. We've had our theories about Cash App before. Yeah, I believe my savings are all gone now, but it was worth it. So this was

really like one of those things where you put the hostage and the reward money and you're like, Oh, all right, let's make sure she's safe first. And then, yeah, should I have talked her down? 150 seemed like it wasn't so considering john charges 55 or 60. Now I figured like the amount of fun that we've had with Frenchy Hanna. Are you kidding me? Yeah, she's not wearing that well, and now we're back to how you heard of her was she like where did you find me? Just no accepted. No, no, no, she's not another fan. Great. She's Frenchy Hanna Of course that there's fans of pure genuine, you know, you're like about the 150 figure Is that, that's

what Ray DeVito would be so excited about going on MLC and being made fun of for two hours straight. I get 150 for that? Alright, I'm in. Let's go. I was in a stream I was in a stream

I was in a stream room with her for 12 minutes and she got $150, so good for $1.99. Right. I was in a street room with her for 12 minutes and she got $150. So good for Frenchy. And a lot of exposure, I have to say. Oh yeah. And you know, Chris did point out that now that she and I are best friends, she does live in Vegas now, Carl. And it wouldn't be that hard.

You guys were talking about going on her show. Oh, I don't think that's the play. I think she needs to be a hackamania. Maybe give her a booth like Helga Mann. Oh, I don't think that's the play. I think she needs to be at Hackamanian. Maybe give her a booth like Helga Mann. She's our emcee. That's a really good idea. That's an even better idea.

Yeah. Like we had with Ted Williams in Detroit. He brings us up, we get Frenchy Hata. Let's do that. Okay, that was Carol and yes. Yes, yes, all of you in the back. For those people in the back for those people Remember to shut the fuck off

Line Alright, Krisha can you hang out with us for a minute? Absolutely Alright, let's get into it, we're real late with our Cringe of the week This one comes in from my buddy Jackie Marlowe Who has been spending most of his life digitizing all the old Howard Stern episodes, and he was at it again this week, and he found this clip from December 23rd, 1996. So it's

not really the spirit of cringe of the week, but I want to slide on this one. Apparently, this was played during one of Settling John's first on air tryouts for what would become out to Lunch. Oh. And he says he's going to send that to me in a separate email in a few days. So John doing his radio show. This is a K-Rock bumper, styled as a PSA against drunk driving. Starting with cheery Christmas bells, it features a drunken loud Gary at the K-Rock Christmas

party detailing how one of his friends drove drunk. And you'll hear the rest of this. So this is Gary Delabatte, recording this from a Christmas party, meant to be a PSA From K-Rock's Drunken Christmas Staff Party. Hey, this is Bobba Boy. I want to wish you a happy holiday from me and my family. And I want to tell you not to drink and drive, because I had a friend who did that, and I'm not kidding around. He ran this girl over and he killed her, and he spent four years in jail. And her family was really pissed off, obviously, and his whole life was ruined. So don't drink and drive, but have a happy holiday! K-Rock. So, not the best bumper coming out of that PSA either. I love that Gary goes, and her

family was really pissed off about it. Yeah, but even he realizes, you know, obviously they should, they, it was, they were then their rights to be a little ticked off. No judge honor. They were annoyed to ruin their weekend. Yeah. His life didn't go well after it either. Just say, now four years in jail. Yeah. I feel bad for him. That's terrible. All right. We try to do this the next episode 600, Adam, we didn't get a chance to do it. I want to talk to you about Armie Hammer. Because well, why don't you give a little background on Armie Hammer, who has had major starring roles in Hollywood, the social network, I don't even know his entire list of credits,

but he was a rising star. And then bad things happened. Do you want to give people the background on this? Adam, do you know it? Oh, me? Yeah. I don't know what to tell you that people don't already know except he was caught being very aggressive and abusive to hundreds of women and became real viral for having a taste for cannibalism. And what's so amazing is that he loves to

talk about it, he loves to fantasize about it, he's eaten raw animal flesh in you know hunting, you know rituals, he's obsessed with it, he's written so much about it, but just like John and just like Opie and all the people that we love, he refuses to admit it in any way, and thinks he can go on a kind of rehabilitation campaign to change his image without actually learning anything new or admitting to anything he's done. And

we get to witness this on so many different platforms. It's just incredible. And it seems like the worse it goes, the more he likes it, and the more he has to do it, because this is just sinking anything that was left of his potential career. So he went on the Louis Thoreau podcast, which I believe is a British podcaster, if I'm not mistaken. And so he went on there to again, he's trying to rehabilitate his image because he was messaging with women about eating their ribs, like these fantasies he would have. He wants to brand them. Maybe he did brand women. I can't remember the details of all this when it was coming out. Pretty heinous shit. And so Louie Thoreau had some questions for army hammer. Did you cut the heart out of the animal and eat it while still warm? No, you don't

eat the whole heart. You didn't do the traditions is you take a bite out of the heart and you've got all your buddies around you. they're goading you on. It's sort of like a... it's sort of like a almost overly charged male rite of passage when you go hunting for your first time. Everyone that I know who went hunting for their first time had to do something similar. So you did that? Yeah. Not for the purpose of any cannibalism or any sexual gratification. No. Definitely wasn't the question. Sexual gratification. We were jerking off on the deer. No one mentioned that. So that is not a rite of passage or a tale as old as time. That is not

something that everybody does hunting and just the distinction he had to make. No, no, I didn't eat it. I just, you know, took a bite from it is something a cannibal would say. Yeah. Did you eat the heart while it was still warm? No, I nibbled it. That's what eating is. So you didn't clean your plate. That's not the question here. I'm a respectable gentleman. Come on. Have you guys ever heard of such a thing before? Eating the heart of animal that you kill I've never heard of that I'm not a member of a hunting family Anthony Bourdain that's it I grew up in a rural town where like a lot of kids they missed the first day of hunting season they didn't go to school

that day they went out hunting with their dad I've never once heard this anecdote that oh yeah the heart was delicious and And when he did that, he looked like Sittering John's wife after she went down on his ass. See, now that's how you craft a joke, everyone. Flawless. Nailed it. The sheer arrogance of him talking to us, how can you conflate these two things and bring them up now?

How rude of you. What does one have to do with the other? One is a time-tested hunting ritual the other is a sexual thing that happens to turn me on I'm not on trial here actually you are yeah my answer isn't crazy you asking the question that's what's crazy okay well I was even though I did have a boner but I was also thinking about other things at the time. Yeah, and I wasn't jerking off. Who said I was jerking off?

Stop looking at me like that. All right, you want to set up your clip number two out here? Well, this is the depth that people will go to quibble over the minutia of something said in order to pretend to have missed the entire point. Less of a, there's not a part of me that gets a thrill out of the idea of actually eating someone. Like that's absurd.

Like this is not, it's not reality. There's a thing called cuteness aggression. Do you know what cuteness aggression is? I think what you're gonna say is it's like when you see a baby with chubby cheeks and you say, I could just gobble you all up. Yeah, or like, oh my God, you're gonna say is it's like when you see a baby with chubby cheeks and you say I just want to gobble you all up Yeah, or like like oh my god, you're so cute. I just want to bite you like that whole thing That's what that is. But that isn't the same as inflicting pain and and this was also now you're conflating two separate things because you asked me about this and then you say well that's not the same as inflicting pain.

Well, yeah, okay. No, that's fair. Yeah, sometimes I want to eat a bitch but that's totally different than when I beat the shuttler during sex. Two different things we're talking about. He was so prepared to say that too. That's such a weird thing to equate that to like grabbing a little kid's cheek. That doesn't equate to anything that we're talking about with Army Hammer. That doesn't equate to anything that we're talking about with Army Hammer. Here's the thing, Carl. I don't have a foot fetish, right? So if somebody were to ask me to talk seriously about what people who have a foot fetish enjoy

and are looking for, I wouldn't know what to say. And I certainly wouldn't correct someone when they're like, I think it's the arches. No, no, no, it's not the arches. It's like this. I'll tell you what it's like. Okay, you sound like someone who knows a lot about the topic. Tell me what it is. Oh, it's like cuteness aggression Okay, so then you're a dangerous monster who can't control himself Especially among children like what the fuck is that kind of answer?

You sound like someone very well versed on this topic. Mm-hmm And if you haven't heard my segment I did on the Drew Lane show a month or two ago, Armie Hammer launched his new podcast. And again, even the podcast is an effort to rehabilitate his image and to get back into the mainstream and get back into Hollywood. And his second guest ever was his mom. And we find out that his mom is this crazy Jesus freak Mm-hmm to such an extent it was actually a fascinating interview because he sits down he goes now mom I want to have a conversation with you I want to have a cordial cover they don't get along at all

We have a cordial conversation with you if we could just refrain from talking about Jesus at every turn I'd really appreciate it. I'm like what a what a weird way to start an interview. And then she turned everything into Jesus. I was like, oh, okay, now I see what's going on. Can we not talk about Jesus or how breastfeeding went horribly wrong? It was the smartest thing he did, though. His mother is such a devout evangelical Christian, she can't say a sentence without mentioning Jesus. Her son doesn't exist. Anything he does is because of Jesus, good or bad, it's all wrapped up. They have no relationship. It almost, almost shows you why his tastes have gone so over the edge because everything he does, his mom tells him, that's the most wicked,

evil thing you could ever do. So of course, he feels some kind of relief by dancing around or maybe even engaging in the worst activity you could think of. So the fact that he doesn't admit it means he's dangerous because he would say it. He would say, yeah, it turns me on, the danger. I don't need to do it. just like pushing the envelope instead we get him, you know quibbling over these tiny little distinctions that mean nothing to anyone Just looking in Yeah, it's almost like the P town said I'm just doing research thing is just like uh I don't think so now people do research and see be I need to look it up, but

Well, your face is gonna be red when his project finally comes out by the way the Pete Townsend project that he was doing all That research for you'll see One Netflix, I'm just guessing This is the uncle Ernie spin-off where he gets his own musical The next clip by the way the animal you me, this guy, Louis Thoreau, made a YouTube short. So he thought the same thing that you thought. This was a compelling part of the podcast. And it's about how Armie just wants to put this behind him.

Why are we still talking about this? It's not even news anymore. Did you have anything else you wanted to say? I should, I should uh... No, I mean I don't love the way the interview started. Just to be perfectly honest. I'm not crazy about drudging up all of this stuff.

Because for me a lot of these issues have been resolved. Whether it be legally or within myself. And I feel like a lot of those waters have settled. I think doing things like that stirs up the water again unnecessarily It definitely wasn't my favorite beginning I'm glad we move past that and got to a place where we could have a civil normal conversation like that felt good

But drudging up all that stuff like I don't love it. I Hear you and I sensed that during the chat I think in the court of public opinion the jury is still out. But my thing now is like the court of public opinion like pick anything that the court of public opinion has an opinion on and there's a very good chance that they will not be fully informed there's a very good chance they don't have the full story and there's also a very good chance that they're probably wrong. So he's got it all figured out. All those crimes I was never convicted of.

I figured out myself how to deal with it. I understand that you might have some questions or be confused but this matter has been settled by myself for myself so why aren't we talking about getting me acting work? right, this is like Chris and I have talked about this we have friends who are Difficult to deal with and make your life more difficult Not trucker Andy, okay a different base friends Like fool but Not trucker Andy. Okay a different base friends different base flag fool, but

They do this thing where they go. Well, you can't be mad at me cuz I'm mad at myself and So it turns into the scene is just like dude Why would you do something like this like dude? Don't you know that I'm already mad at myself about like don't even tell me like I already know that I fucked up Yeah, why are we talking about? Yeah, it's like it's our fault for bringing it up It's like yeah, but the problem is it's a fucking pattern. It doesn't go away It's the problem. It doesn't seem like army is ready to move on with this this lifestyle He's enjoying you know how I know you know how anybody can tell I'm not into cannibalism is because I rarely talk about it

Text about it Nor do I know much about it you never that's a creep off. He can't say that for Lucy type box anymore So I don't I'm sorry, I don't want Adam to pass judgment on another artist, but let me ask Carl and Chris What do you think has hurt Armie Hammer more? The idea that he's sexually violent and allegedly and possibly a cannibalist or the Lone Ranger movie that he did which one is hurting more well I haven't seen either thing so I saw I saw one of them and I feel like the cannibalism is not so bad okay good to know I am hungry you're right in insinuating that if the

Lone Ranger went better he wouldn't have to deal with this as much. Probably. Johnny Depp didn't play an Indian. Yes, yes, absolutely. All right, so this show that we're watching, Louis Thoreau Podcast, is exclusively on Spotify, which is a little bit more difficult to grab. But I have some audio clips coming up. And this is your next clip, Adam, that you sent me. He explains he's not here to advocate for himself. My journey is not explaining myself. My journey is not advocating for myself. I just, that's just not where I'm at. I mean, I get that on things like this, that stuff needs to come up, but

I'm just very happy to report that that's not a part of my life anymore. I hear you. It's tough because I get that this isn't a therapeutic space and you don't owe me accountability, certainly not in the sense of your personal growth, but nevertheless, anytime you do an interview, I think with anyone who takes on the burden of attempting to address the narrative as it exists in the public space now, this is what you will be going through. Yeah, and I get it. I get it. So he's not there to advocate for himself?

Yeah, that's why you start a podcast and then go on any podcast that'll have you. Yeah, it sounds like just the opposite of that. But if you say those words, then I guess I can't argue with you because it's not about your actions. It's about what you say and do. And when you cut someone off who's speaking very, very slowly with, I get it, I get it, I get it. It sounds like you don't get it.

Yeah. Sounds like you don't like hearing it at all. I wanna get past it. Well, this is a great quote. It's incredible. At some point, he cites a statistic where he says, women statistically enjoy the thrill of being raped. I don't have the source right now, but you can find it.

I mentioned the phrase CNC. It stands for Consensual Non-Consent, and it's the enacting of a scenario in which one, in a sense, role plays a sexual assault, acts it out for fantasy purposes. So it's a safe form of sex in which you simulate rape. Correct. Which, by the way, is a very common fantasy. You know, I mean, I think that it doesn't get spoken about enough, but I think I read a stat somewhere where it said something, it's over one third of women have had a fantasy

similar to that. And so finding a safe way to do that where you can find a willing and safe partner to do this with to enact your fantasies. I mean, this is not anything unusual. You know? Yeah, I think I saw somewhere that like a bunch of chicks are into this thing that I'm into. I was talking with my buddy. So that seems I'm probably okay. Right? Where was it I was reading about Jews love anti semitism? Who is that? Like one third of them? It said anyway What I have them crawl into the oven without even being coerced. It's crazy Well, I'm probably on some lists now But I did Google how many women have a rape fantasy and it says between 31 and 57 percent But that is just Google so AI seems to think that women really want this.

All right. Well, Army Hammer, get Google out next time. Actually helped Army Hammer so he could have said 51%. We'd be more compelling. And then the last clip that you have that you sent me, This is just a crazy thing for him to say you kind of leveraged your fame and your charisma To slightly coax people out of their comfort zone and they were cocooned in a feeling of okay I might one day be mrs. Hammer right or this this is going somewhere. He's serious about me and they ended up feeling violated Does that sound like a plausible scenario? Does it sound plausible? Sure. Do you think that's what happened? I think it's very hard to put

yourself in any situation and say this is what I think happened and really encapsulate the entire situation. Are you entitled to the opinion? Absolutely. Are there portions of that that might be right? Absolutely. Is there more to the story than that? There could be. It's all up for interpretation. And I think that people are allowed to have whatever opinion they want. He could be a politician. What even is a cannibal? What is it? What are we talking about? We call it the C word in my home. I don't appreciate that kind of language. What are we talking about? We call it the C word in my home. I don't appreciate that kind of language What a crazy thing to say?

Could I be the worst person ever exists? I mean if you want to think that you can take no, I'm asking you You tell me don't don't just say like anyone could think whatever the fuck they want I tell me what you think is the answer. What's the truth here? People might think I'm a cannibal and a rapist People might think I'm a cannibal and a rapist. Yeah, are you all right? Armie Hammer is the boss from Kids in the Hall of Brain Candy, Don. He's like, well, would you agree that Paris is the capital of France? Yeah, great. Now we're back in agreement. Right, yeah. It doesn't add to anything that we were talking about previously.

He's so comfortable talking about other people's depraved fantasies and how okay that is, but just refuses to admit his own. If this is his fantasy, I'm led to believe that there are millions of people out there that share it and that there is actually a space where people can fantasize without necessarily practicing, you know? Like people who want to be puppies or vampires or whatever it is. Like we can cosplay. we can pretend if it Turns us on you know we can play you know meter made person driving the car without actually going to get jobs

You know in the government and working civil service we can just play this stuff out But he is unwilling to admit it so it makes him seem like he has something to hide and he's shitting on all those people That might actually have strange Fetishes that would like to be included into this world interesting so that was from the Louie thorough podcast he did recently Well, he just did a new episode of his podcast and the made news TMZ picked up on this and he had this guest on Danny Drew's who's an actor producer

mental health coach suffered through addiction and recovery. I listened to this one. Yeah. And he tells this tale about what if I just played for the other team? Maybe that would fix all my problems. You know, it's these pesky women who are releasing my text messages and saying that they don't want to be branded with my initials. They're a real problem. They're all paid to my ass. What do they pay for their team? So I played these clips when I was on Drew Lane show yesterday. You can find that on their YouTube channel,

Drew Lane podcast. And I want to play them again, because I'm interested in what your guys takes is, especially after the context of what we just heard with this other interview that didn't seem to go so well as far as what he's trying to accomplish with rehabilitating his his image. I tried I tried hooking up with a dude one time. And it was it was it was hilarious because I was like, you know what, like, women are the worst. Like gay dudes seem to have it so easy. Like so easy. I'm at a restaurant, my phone blows up and it's like Grindr and like someone else is like I'm at the same restaurant. Do you want a blowjob in the bathroom? And you're like, hey guys, I'll be back in five minutes.

And you get up and you go to the bathroom, you get a blowjob and you come back and you're like, what was that? I don't know. Some guy just sucked my dick. It's like, oh, I don't know. I didn't get his name. Anyway, what would you order? Yeah? Yeah, totally now My thought is if I need to not that bag and jerk off in the bathroom

I don't need a guy's mouth on my penis But I was straight man, so that's how I think What's going on here, and I'm do you have any analysis of this? Yeah, I think he's so wrapped up in his own ego, his own attractiveness and sense of self worth that he's doing what Kevin Spacey did, which is I will distract from all of these horrible things I've been accused of by announcing to the gay community that I can also fuck them now. And that's such big news. We're so excited that he's, you know, dabbling in our team that it'll just will ignore what he's actually done and being accused of and how he's made

people feel because that's some bullshit right there. That's just some bullshit. Everything he said that's I'm just going to have to assume that's not how that goes at all. I've never dabbled in foot fetish because it doesn't interest me and I'm not gonna explore it from my own. Come on, man. Come on. Christian, you have any thoughts on this? Yeah, I mean, I think that he had that really specific example. So yes, I do believe that he's at least considered dabbling like that. And Carl, you asked the question. Why wouldn't I Just jerk off because then you don't get to question your sexuality for the rest of your life Was it gay because I had a guy blow me and the answer is yes it is but he I

I couldn't agree more with Adam and in fact I was starting to notice the similarity to Kevin Spacey saying I am a gay American and So he's saying like I'm not a cannibalistic American. What if I'm gay? Is that okay? He's like putting his toe speaking of foot fetish He's putting his toe in the water. He's like maybe how we feel about this and Asking these communities for help being like can you help me out here? Cuz I don't know what to do I need some allies really fast I'm just a poor little minority you You guys are picking on the poor little minority over here who grew up in the hammer family and started all these

blockbuster movies. And man from uncle. He talks about doing a lot of drugs and having a lot he blames everything he you know, he's ever done that people don't like on being fucked up. He can't make his gay story like that. He can't make it something believable like we were. And then this person, no, it has to be this sober, deliberate decision I signed up, made a profile for, answered questions, you know, talk to people all not knowing anything about it or whether I would even like it. Could you imagine going that distance for like a meal you don't know you would like?

You wouldn't even order it. Right. So it yields further than that. Yeah. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to give this a try. Yeah. Like, like maybe this actually works. Yeah. I remember I met this dude. Handsome French, you know, the whole thing. I was like, OK, this could work this could work. Yeah, let's try this

I remember I started making out with him and I just remember being like God Beards like yeah, like women like it when you shave like this thing is fucking rough Like how do I get in there? So I remember I put my arms around him and I was like, oh my god And these shoulders are so wide He's almost my height. This is so strange. And it did physically for me? Absolutely nothing. Nothing. Like, not even a twitch. What's so odd about this to me is I don't need to experiment with that to know that I wouldn't enjoy it. It's never crossed my mind. I'm like, man. Maybe it would be super hot of me and a guy started making out

It's like as a straight guy. You know that that's not gonna work Right, what did you think was gonna happen? So so this seems so far-fetched to me that he'd be like, you know I decided like why not make out this hot French guy first off what makes him hot. That's my first question French We're supposed to believe that it's such a weird detail that sounds like bullshit that he added in there French Oh, yeah, yeah the the handsome French man. Okay. Yes. You're not buying this story Adam no, no, no, so Armie Hammer might not have been into that experience

But as he was talking about it, I came so I don't know what that means. All right Well, I don't know what that means either Christian. Are you in trouble for something that we should know about? I might be. I might be. OK, shit. This is the last clip I have on here, because this is where I think he was doing this for attention. I think part of this is get some headlines for his podcast.

Whoa, what's Armie Hammer talking about? Gay experiences? Oh, I've got to tune into this. Well, if I may real quick, just this entire interview with Danny with her lips. Drew's, yeah. Trying to outdo each other. So when you say attention.

She's insufferable. Oh yeah, and he's not gonna be outdone, so. She's one of these bitches who, she's been in all the rehabs and everyone has to listen to her and she knows everything about life. It's like, shut up. Oh, shut up. Yeah, and she's everything about life. It's like shut up. Oh

Yeah, and she's a self-help coach or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, of course she is. Yeah, and yet she's wearing a bathrobe in public Just like a politician or just like somebody that's on trial they know every second They're not talking about cannibalism is a win for army Rather they talk about this than anything else because this is actually he's so low this is winning for him right now. It's another win for the hammer. Good point. This is the last clip but this is where I started to think like oh this is bullsh**. And then I remember like we were like making out and it was kind of like getting hotter and heavier but I was like going through the motions of not feeling anything.

And then he reached for my dick and I was like, you're not gonna touch my flaccid penis. This is not gonna happen, I'm sorry. And I was like, you know what, I gotta stop us here. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is like a, no, I mean, I, I mean, women are beautiful, so like whatever.

But if I never slept with another woman again or I slept with 20 I'd make no difference You know, yeah, that's what I found so annoying about Danny is Army hammers talking about a guy reaching for his cock and what's he gonna do and she's just like yeah Anyway, so about me again, like oh, that's not the point of this conversation at all. Actually There's only one word of his story I don't believe, and that word is flaccid. That makes sense.

The point I made on Drew's show yesterday when we talked about this is, if you're gonna have a gay experience, I have no experience with this, but I would assume the making out portion is really fucking weird, and you'd wanna get right to the penises and mouths or in a hand or something portion of it That would be the thing that you know if you want to get off, you're not falling in love, right?

You just want to have like you want to go out a few dates first they could ruin everything What's been proven is that army has no regard or respect for any of the women that he's dated or had relationships with. I'm supposed to believe that the feelings he cared about were the French gay man he was not attracted to. That's where suddenly he's showing some restraint and I must excuse myself. This is not for me because, you know, he cared so much about his feelings. So I guess to sum up Adam's thoughts about this whole thing. Bullshit! Just admit you like cannibalism and move on.

Maybe you'll have a career and maybe some other people will come out of the closet with you. You want to eat an attractive girl? I don't but you know whatever. You haven't done it yet right? You haven't eaten any chicks heart yet? Just the deer you shot? I didn't eat it. I took a bite of it in a ceremony. The show, I was a man.

And it's been on ice for hours. It was chilled. It wasn't hot. That'd be weird. He should just have Andrew Tate on his podcast because then no one's going to pay any attention to what Armie Hammer said for the entire hour. That's not a bad idea, actually. Christian, I'll let you get out of your body Well, yeah, and I actually just shared a little screen there for you So you can put that up and everyone will know when stuttering John and friends is happening in Ohio. It's the end of March Apparently tickets are available Carl March 28th and 29th

March apparently tickets are available Carl March 28th and 29th 25 bucks VIP seating is 30 bucks. That's worth it that that is the zone They make you wear a raincoat like when people used to go see Gallagher back I just bring it a brow first two rows make it boogers Well, anyway, thank you for having me for having me. Thank you for letting me celebrate episode 601 and all the my adventures with Frenchie. It was a great time and everybody check out who are these broadcasters Tuesdays 2pm on this very channel. Yesterday's episode was a lot of fun with my pals Zia from the old chip chippers and podcasts. So people check that out. Yeah. You and Zia were great. Tune in at 2 PM Eastern on Tuesdays.

Or you can watch it any time after. It's on the live tab on our YouTube page. People are enjoying, who are these broadcasters? You and Eric Zane, when he's not cleaning up dog pee. You guys are killing me over there. Eric Zane tried to call me the next morning after we made him cringe of the week, but I was on the airplane So I was not able to

Chose everything he calls me. I know it's to be on his show. He's on that. He calls me Yeah, he's only ever called me once and it was to yeah be on his show Yeah, I'm the morning the time he slept through our show. He just texted me. Oh, man. I'm sorry. He didn't even call me So yeah forgot about that He just texted me. Oh man. I'm sorry. He didn't even call me. So yeah forgot about Eric and his team will be back next Tuesday though, so I can't no no no more time from Eric. That's enough of that Great to see you Adam Carl Chris talk to everybody soon. All right. Thanks Christian. All right. Good to see you, buddy. Bye Bye Let me bring up Annie a review girl. What's up, Annie?

Oh, hello. Good to see you. Good to see you, too. And you're just in time for our. We are going to have the segments about. Yes, this is the portion of the show. Everyone loves this is the best part of the show where we talk about the podcast that we'll be reviewing on the next episode of where these podcasts normally get people excited about the next episode because this episode is winding to a close. And thank God, we're almost three hours in.

So people want to know, but should I tune in for the next? I enjoyed this episode. Should I tune in for the next episode? And the answer is yes. And I'll tell you why. Trucker Andy will be back with us this Saturday, 2pm Eastern. If you're on our Patreon, if you're a YouTube member, you'll get the link to that to watch it live. Of course, we put all these out as podcast episodes on Thursdays for our Wednesday show and

Sundays for our Saturday show. But whatever. The point is, we are going to be reviewing a podcast called Master the allegations against Neil Gaiman. This is something that Andy has been studying and following pretty closely. And Neil Gaiman is an author, very famous author. And there's a lot of allegations about what he's been up to, very army hammer-esque allegations. But the accusers, I'm not so sure about.

This podcast gets those accusers on the show to talk about it. And we hear Neil Gaiman defend himself. So we'll be checking into all of that. It's actually pretty interesting when we're on vacation last week. I said I wouldn't talk about vacation. I'm not. Please don't have vacation last week with trucker Andy. We were talking about this quite a bit. And I'm very interested to explore this realm. Adam, do you know

anything about this? I'm fascinated by Neil Gaiman and Amanda Palmer and especially seeing out he wrote The Sandman and so much of this stuff is is in there. His obsession with Tori Amos and how Tori Amos is like a character in the thing, but he married a different redhead. And again, all the crimes are like, not necessarily you don't quite know it's just not good. And when people have the money to just spend on making this stuff go away

It creates big vacuums where we want to know what's happening And again, it sounds like another situation where whether they're guilty of what they've been accused of clearly There's something to apologize for and they should probably own it for everybody's sake instead of just attacking the victims and hoping it goes away So join us Saturday with Adam Bush. Yeah, I know, right? No, I will be there. Everybody needs a break. No, that is spot on.

The conversation I was having with Andy, he's paying people off and it seems like what you would do if you were guilty of what he's being accused of, but he also has explanations for it and there's some weird things with what the accusers are saying and then you look at the text message threads and that doesn't really add up so it all gets very murky it's tough. Wait did you discuss this beforehand? Not the podcast. Okay. Just the subject matter. You got off on a technicality. I did the deep service two bucks says simcast is less feminine than this panel All right producer Chris get out of here And do we have any new reviews that you'd like to read for us as our review girl I

Have two for us this week excellent And what we do on the review segment, I tell people to please give us a five star review and then shit all over us in the comment section. I think Apple Podcast is still the most popular, but there are other sites to do that. Annie tracks them down and then she reads them. We try to figure out what number of stars we were given for each review. The first one comes in February 24th from Carlson from Flint. I'm very triggered I'm pretty sure this I'm pretty sure after listening to the show my ears now have AIDS I'm about to take my headphones and smash them daddy. I miss you. I ever thought I want that Star review that I always got a five-star review right there. I think it's a five-star

That's actually a bad right there if I can give someone's ears aids We're making new shirts Now the second one comes in from Tijuana's only Bible man Basically another music special how fire is too good for the people who make we didn't start to fire parodies Okay, didn't enjoy the song parody segment, I'm going to say that is a five star review. That is a five star review. They're lying. Everybody loves the music episode. Music episodes rules, of course.

And it was a while ago. So if you're aware of it, you are a fan. That's a good point. But also, the the song parody that they bag slappers put together was fantastic was So we all know that that's the case. I have some voicemails to go through And you got a few minutes to hang out. Of course. I'm always happy to stay around as long as I can anyway awesome Pony power to sent this in the mail to us and I'm very excited about it. We were out of town so we didn't check our mailbox for a minute. But he's the guy who does all the 3D prints, a lot of things that have gone inside Lucy Typebox, also the Dabby Award that was handed out to Dabblecontoo, all the Dabby Awards.

Well he has made these ornaments You put a light inside them and they they light up and I have a who are these podcasts logo? Ornament, which is fantastic. There is a creep off Ornament well done and then you weren't expecting this Once over with Kaylee. It's her own ornament I'll sell that to her To do a mini Christmas tree for next year? Sure, I'll do that. And then an all apologies ornament for trucker Andy and Joe six pack. Deep cut. Back deep cut fantastic, and then this is holy shit I got to take a photo of this and text it to my buddy Nick Reketa Because this is a ball dough Nick Reketa's face

Nick's got his own ball down. It says Reketa on the back So I don't know exactly how these work. I think you put your balls in there And then this goes in The wet part right I don't I don't get it well will you try it out though all right Before he sent it into you and I want to say that's way more horrifying Than I could have ever expected. It's squishy. Yeah Those names out in case he brings it to school Give me that away from me

Just for context that's how people who don't know how a sexual device works act if they didn't know about it They wouldn't be correcting any and showing the exact way and making delineations between other things. Good point. I hate it. I'm not a fan myself. All right, let's hit some voice mails. Thanks to Pony Power too. You do great work, my friend. We appreciate you. Hey, Carl. my name is Okay, I wanted to go

Sure to calm so it was the perfect length. It was a good life. He did not call back So that was it that was the one one chance at that All right 45 seconds real quick catching up on episodes loved rock lobster 45 seconds real quick. Catch it up on episodes. Loved rock lobster. Close enough. Same stop lobster. Also, I just want to point out if you're trying to get your call under 45 seconds, never acknowledge the time. You just save some time on it. Just adding more time to it. Curl, I'm going to try to make this quick. Okay. You want this to be quick, right? Try to make this quick. Was it 45 seconds? Let me get right to the point. I'm going to get right to the point. Cause I know that you like people to stop beating around and get like.

I do not agree with them broadly, but I think the dude brings a really cool aspect to the show. But also real quick, the end loop that his co-host was talking about, I got caught with one of those at a gas station recently where a guy thought I parked too close to his car while I was getting gas and proceeded to call me a

F-sler Repeatedly and then when I told him you back up. I'm not moving my car. I'm getting gas Got back in his car and started yelling Stupid motherfucker stupid motherfucker stupid motherfucker stupid motherfucker. It's like constantly in his car car and I just kept pumping my gas it's kind of funny because I'm not exactly a small guy I'm a 6'5 and about 270 to 75 so I just kind of laughed at him and kept pumping my gas and people he was just making a scene so like army hammers type anyways thought it was funny I never heard of that term before thought it was pretty pretty Spot on with the situation I dealt with

anyways, I Guess Chris You rock Thank you. And I guess hopefully I made it in 45 seconds. All right I guess hopefully I made it in 45 seconds. All right Way too long. Oh, he thinks it's a minimum of 45 seconds. No, it's not the minimum. It's the maximum Son of a bitch And loops are a fascinating concept though. I never heard of such a thing and now I'm starting to realize it's a real thing. Oh

I forgot to say this was Jason from Atlanta and Chris you rock I forgot to say Carl you fucking suck Fuck you guys later. Jesus. I played your fucking too long voicemail and I still don't Thanks, Jason in Atlanta Thanks a lot You know everyone who says I'm so-and-so from somewhere they all want to be Gary in San Diego Hey Carl, it's February 28th The nights the big night

We're stuttering John Makes his one-man show New appearance at the Boca black box Sales he's doing pretty good for Friday night and I think the audience is anticipating a fresh new show. All new material. He's been working on it now for up to three years. Five jokes a day. He's been honing those jokes so they're a letter perfect. Oh, that show is going to be fantastic. I hope somebody tapes it so we can hear it on, maybe you could recap it on your new show when you come back in a week or so. We did it. Let's hope so. Anyway, that's it from San Diego. Rock and roll.

Gary 45 seconds. So much extra nonsense in there. Actually, Carl, in the 600s when you said you've never called anybody back, one of your early episodes if you set up a voicemail you didn't call somebody back. I don't remember what episode it is because I may be autistic but I'm not that autistic. Somebody else can call and let you know. But you definitely called somebody back at one point.

You don't have to call me back. I don't need to hear you much that much. I don't think I said I'd never call anyone back. I remember calling that guy back and he answered his phone the whole thing But you people used to always say call me back for some reason on the voicemail Carl it's the affiliates you better not be fucking going long this time. All right, if you go long again I'm gonna fuck you in the ass. I know you'll like it. You look we're you little stripey head freaks You little crooked leg a little fuck with the little fucking bean teeth alright go fuck yourself

Oh, yeah, and um Dabble con two I think or three I don't know fuck you Affiliates are mean that's our best promo. Yeah, it's Christ's fucking affiliates devil con dot live Go get your tickets April 11 11 and 12. Is that what I said? Yes. We'll be streaming the Kate Meany tapes part two. I did not promote that enough during the show today. Oops. I'll do it next time. I promise. I think he did. Oh, okay. You now are 600 episodes in of your volunteer podcast that nobody listens to. You have reached the ranks of Patrick Michael, Sutter and John, Toby, Tom Myers, and Shirley.

We still love you, and luckily for you you have producer crickets and everybody else around you. Also, acamea.com from the Lucy dig juicy round tips on Patreon. Thank you for coming back. Left F, order KY, patron, oh, absolutely, oh, shit. Busted. Can I tell you a fun anecdote real quick? So I get these reports on websites that I own from Google that tells me what the search query's in that people put in that either gets clicks to our site

or we show up in the results for it. So for who are these podcasts, we up for who is podcast WTP, Carl WTP, you know all these different things. For the isotopes.com we show up for Lucy tight boxes age. Oh wow! Yeah that was a new one I mean I was just like we don't post that on our band's website, but Oh, she we show up for it. She'd be so pissed if everyone knew she was 47 So don't tell him yes and cut that part out She's not 47. Hey Carl, this is al swearingin

I'm just calling to give producer Chris some serious props on his stuttering John impression We all love the guy, you know perfect clips during the shows But he you know not enough attention is called to stuttering John impression and in particular when he times when stuttering John starts fucking around on a show and not knowing what to do and You know producer Chris starts mocking him going, and just, you know, the general it's perfect when he times in with us. So anyway, I love you, producer Chris, fuck you and your weird gay feet, Carl. All right. There's elsewhere engine. Call me back. All right elsewhere engine. Thank you. And he had to leave insanity.com. I believe it's her website.

Sorry, I didn't promote that before she took off. And it just got up and left. He'll be back though. He's just had to tend to something it looks like. Boner guys got some thoughts on what's going on with our friend Vic, our first ever review girl. Go bills. I took a holiday. So I even gave you guys a few weeks break from my nonsense buying back. Thank you worse than ever.

I really had to call in about the Vick situation that haircut. I mean, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the Instagram updates. That haircut is clearly a call for help. I don't know what we do about it. Something's seriously wrong, guys. Either that or she's well into her lesbian phase. Hopefully it's the latter. Other thing, OP, it's fascinating to learn

that he squints his eyes because he's trying to read the chat and refuses to wear glasses because, I mean, you wouldn't want to look stupid, would you much better to look like some dusty old Chinese ball bag than just wear a pair of glasses so you can fucking see in the seal. Other than that, everyone should vote for Carl at the creep off.com. Yes. No, he doesn't do his consequences and consistently picks the weaker creep. Thank you. guy. I'm sorry. You fucking on all of a sudden What's going on here and he did shave his chest or wax it I did I my chest has been waxed

We showed that and the next thing I have to do is watch the Joker 2 three times in a row There's a very funny joke during the Academy Awards. I think it was Conan O'Brien No, you know what? It was a firefighter that was up on the stage. I think who goes I'm sorry for all the people who lost their homes. And of course, I'm talking about the producers of Joker 2 It was a very funny line, I'm sure it hit close to home, but it got a good reaction from people If you haven't seen Vic if you go to her Instagram, I think it's Victor Tia. Mm-hmm Is there Instagram handle and she did post recently? she's over in France or something out of and

Her haircut whoo She lost a bet. Adam's seen it. Adam knows. I assumed it was some kind of military grade thing she had to do. Yeah. The military tries to humiliate you? Yes, they do. Okay. Monday's calling in. Hey, Carl. It's Monday's. Just want to congratulate you on the episode 600. Looking forward to seeing it, yeah? You know, the show's been doing good.

We all bust your balls over, but... Wait, what? No, we took the break because you're getting ready for episode 600. It was last week. Fuck! No, Monday's missed it. Well, whatever, you got it on 601.

It's all good. Thanks for being here. No shit. No Saturday show. Carl. I'm a federal employee. What am I supposed to jerk off to a work? The creep off the creep off. I do that already. I'm not poor. I got jerk off to reruns. God damn it. Well, I hope you got a hand job on your day off or so. Hey, it's with Andy. And this would have been the week to jerk off to the creep off. Yes, I agree with that. One more voicemail for us. And this is

referring to the end of our episode and episode 600. Adam. to the end of our episode and episode 600. Adam. Hey, Adam. Sorry about your loss. I do want to say it was very funny. For me, at least when Carl's fucking bitch ass goes, Yeah, and we really should have. We really should talk about her sooner, you know, earlier in the show. Thanks for the membership. See you guys. Why are you fucking talking about memberships right now? Fuck that random fucking listener. Talk about Michelle Trachtenberg, dude. Ruin in the moment, dude.

You're like that fucking MLB announcer. Well, Michelle Trachtenberg has died, 39, too young young and Castellanos hits a grand slam. Fuck you, hamburger. Coming back. It wasn't my best moment. It wasn't my best moment. I don't think that can be on you. I think it's on me for bringing that up at that point.

It was definitely not the right place or time in that moment, but we were celebrating 600 episodes. I was delirious at that point. We were four hours in. Look, we can get serious here on WATP. We can share and get real serious sometimes. It makes the level. All right, let's get that. Let's get that ass on.

No, they kicked me up. They, oh. I was talking to Chad and Boca Dave. Do you imagine if like, that dude's daughter just walks in and climbs about Adams lab like you throw the same place what the fuck All been a whole big ruse this whole fucking time. Oh boy. This has been another fun episode Adam I gotta go. Bye. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go You're one of the biggest hacks I know. Goddamn John calling people hacks.