Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep607 - HATE TO BREAK IT TO YA

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Jamie Kennedy seems to be struggling to remain relevant in Hollywood while simultaneously losing his grip on reality. When he isn’t interviewing Michael Biehn about how Terminator predicted the future, he’s talking about how the Matrix is actually a documentary. Oh, and he’s also telling his haters what’s up. Adam Busch is on to chat about 90s Con, Chump Con, and Kato Kaelin. Gavin Newsom’s new podcast with guest Tim Walz is our Cringe of the Week. Michael Ray Bower, the guy who played Donkeylips on Salute Your Shorts, talks about his entry into the Dabbleverse and unwillingness to get a job. Frenchie from Pure Genuine dropped a new episode introducing a new cohost. Cardiff joins the show as we watch Howard Stern read a mean YouTube comment and demand that his staff delete all negative remarks going forward. Opie had Steve Grillo on his show to discuss Howard Stern’s paranoia. Annie the review girl joins us to play another round of “2 Minutes with Tom,” read a recent review, and listen to your voicemails.  Cardiff’s new channel - https://www.youtube.com/@CardiffElect  Annie’s website – https://www.insanneity.com/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Come to Hackamania May 9-11 in Las Vegas with promo code WATP – https://hackamania.com/ Season 2 of the Tapes! Watch Dabble House April 11-12 – https://dabblecon.live/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Coming up, fuck this guy. Pure Genuine with Frenchy Hanna. Big announcement on the show recently. Very exciting. Howard Stern is reading comments on YouTube now. That's funny. Opie had Steve Grillo in the Geb Hards basement show. But first, Jamie Kennedy hosts a podcast

called Hate to Break it to Ya. This is a suggestion from Matt Fish in our Discord. We have a review suggestions channel in there. I appreciate people go in there and give us ideas of shows that we can be reviewing. And so I want to start this off. He recently had so Jamie Kennedy, of course, has been in a lot of movies, started his career in the 90s. And you know him from scream, etc. And he he's, he's a conspiracy theorist.

He's got a lot of ideas about how the world works and he wants to tell you all about them. And he had Michael Bean on the star of the first Terminator movie. Am I pronouncing his name right? Michael Bean, something like that. I always said Bayen, but okay. What do I know? What do I know? Well, he had him on and he talks about, this is very exciting, there's a lot of Matrix talk that we're going to get into, but Terminator is also one of these movies that's like in Jamie's mind predicted the future. Or did the future become the future because of the Terminator? These are the kind of discussions we need to have today to try to figure out. So we're doing the Terminator and in the movie,

Kyle Reese says to Sarah Connor, this is going to happen and that's going to happen. She says like, none of this can happen. This can't happen. In the movie, she says this to me and Kyle Reese says to her, no, not for about 40 years. That was in 84. And in- This is what I gotta talk about. Announced exactly 40 years later,

now, and now we see all the AI. This is what I gotta talk to you about. Okay. Okay, listen to me. I don't think the guest was ready for how excited Jamie got about this But first Jamie finds a really weird way to say what was just said that in 1984 They said in 40 years this one the AI robots are gonna take over, you know, hold on. You're 68 years old

Yes, you did that movie when you're 28 29. Yes. Wow. What an amazing thing. Yeah. Yeah You did that movie when you're 28 29. Yes. Wow. What an amazing thing. Yeah. Yeah 40 years. Hey, do you remember that part when dude, that's what it turns into listen to this This is so funny because for some reason Jamie just starts describing all the characters in the movie and what they did in it Okay, and you're Kyle Reese. Yes, and you're John Connors father. Yes. Okay you're John Connor's father. Yes. Okay. John Connor's Ed Furlong.

Yeah. But then somehow when you go back, you have to go back in time to impregnate Sarah Connor? Yeah. Okay. Arnold's looking for you. You're the savior of the world. No, I was looking for her. And John, and Ed Furlong is the savior of the world after I'm dead. Yeah. Yes, but you were okay

So we came out 41 years ago. What are we doing? If I were that guy Sean, I would be explaining to my wife. This is why I don't like going out to bars anymore Because it just always ends up in this no matter what I do some drunk guy can I ask a question? Yeah, I remember Jamie Kennedy. I remember the Jamie Kennedy experiment. I remember him, you know empty was he always like this I don't think it was like like Sedated and kind of mumbly and and slow like very slow. No, he's definitely changed I don't know what the reason is. I do have clips coming up where he talks about how he doesn't use drugs or drink anymore. I don't think that's true, Carl. I don't think that's true either. Also because I think I know why he's like this. This happens to people when they do one of two things.

They get some money and they move to New Orleans or they move to Vegas. And he moved to Vegas. Oh. I think. Interesting. That's kind of when you're surrounded by it all the time, it's just like a lifestyle. Not a good advertisement for either of those places. Or a great advertisement for those places, depending on.

Depending on what you're in. Yeah, I want to waste away in Vegas. Sounds fun. I'll waste away somewhere. He's describing the movie to him and the plot. That's not the point. The point is how all of this stuff came true Skynet is now a verb

Okay. Hey the skynet's coming The movie opens with you Running from things that look like we see in the sky now drone. It doesn't know the movie doesn't open that way, but yeah I don't know them He sounds suspect were you actually in this Couple things here he goes sky that is a verb verb And then he uses it instead. It's like hey see that sky that's coming this way It's like what's the verb in that sentence? It's not sky that You just got sky netted

There you go now. No makes a little more sense kind of suburb Jimmy's kind of dumb, right? Mm-hmm, he's corrected three times by this guy in one sentence that he made. Yes. Three things wrong with it. No, no, no, he's got it all figured out. Literally, do you know there's a ton of stuff on the internet that you know I love that you may not, that's basically saying that it's coming true 40 years later

literally it's on the internet yeah literally everything's on the internet yeah literally did you know that people who we don't know are anonymous who are probably whack jobs are writing on subreddits the Terminator was based on a true story in the future yeah sure that yeah, sure that's true, but it really doesn't. And he does know about it. He made it clear that he didn't want to hear about it. He's like, I know you don't want to hear about it because I keep talking about it, but now that I've cornered you and you can't say no because the camera's on, here we go.

And you got to remember, this guy has had a long acting career. This is a movie he made, again, over 41 years ago. And I don't know that he watches it every year and studies it but Obviously Jamie wants to talk to him all about it. He's finally starts deflecting you do Terminator. Yeah You have all this stuff in there that's coming true now. Yes and By the way, this is Jim Cameron's movie. I know but you're the face of it. Yes. Do you know what I am? What are you? I am the person that warns people in a movie. I am Oh, I am. You're the savior of the world or the father of the savior of the world and I'm the people that tells people how to

survive through movies. You don't know it, but it's what I'm known for. What are you known for? Great question. What are you known for, Jamie Kennedy? Very funny, I love that he goes, look it, James Cameron made the movie. I was just casted it. I don't know, I can't answer all your questions

about the plot. He's like, I can't get Jim Cameron, but I can get you, so you have to answer these for me now He literally says that later on in those And then it turns into the two movies that define Jamie Kennedy's world our Terminator and the Matrix hmm, and I have some clips coming up where he says the Matrix is a documentary It's not a movie

Everything's 100% real. He's gonna prove it and everything. I have the clips But I just love this reaction from his guest here your royalty go your royalty. Okay The matrix you've seen it. Yes, loved it didn't understand it Wow I don't understand anything Wow Wow! Unless it's got a beginning. You just did Terminator! Just did Terminator? What do you mean by that? I loved that answer though. It's just like I'm not gonna have a matrix conversation with you man. That's not what I'm here for at all. Computers, I, sure, simulation, whatever. I don't get it. It's fine. I computers. I sure simulation whatever. I don't get it. It's fine. I

Love talking about the pyramids, but I'm aware of what I sound like and who I become when I talk to people about the pyramids I'm not gonna pretend. It's something that a stable person says this guy doesn't want to talk about it Yeah, don't do that show and bring up the fucking pyramids again. I swear to God. I got I got one finger on the I Don't want to talk about the pyramids. I want to God I got I got one finger on the I don't want to talk about the pyramids I want to talk about what they found underneath yeah underneath oh he's talking about that too that's uh you know he's always got a hot take this guy he doesn't like come on that you know you're a sci-fi fan to this guy he doesn't know who Jamie Kennedy is he doesn't know about your podcast your comedy you're a sci-fi guy so you don't think this guy is used to people coming up to him and having these kind of conversations and talking to him

about this kind of bullshit that he's not interested in? Yeah, he's at conventions where he's getting questions like this all the time. Oh my gosh, did Terminator predict the future just like, sure man, you want it? Thanks for watching. So let me just go to this episode and then Adam's got some stuff he wants to talk about too. But there's an episode that actually just dropped yesterday where Jamie Kennedy is going to explain what's really going on in the world. And it's gonna sound, oh, there's Jamie again,

being extra, but we live in a matrix. I'm telling you, The Matrix is not a movie. It is a documentary. It is a 100% predictive programming piece of entertainment. I don't think it was a documentary because it was written by a couple guys who no longer exist, but like there's people who sat down and wrote a script and that's how the movie was Created and all of the the I think the Japanese writing that scrolls behind them is like their recipes It's real yeah, the person who designed it released they're just it's not real stuff so

Alright so Jamie though has seen things. And so he's going to prove this to us. I do things that, you know, a normal person hasn't done. I've seen a lot of things and I tie a lot of thoughts and ideas together. And it's not, you're not just a viewer, those who are informed and I'm not just an actor. Okay. We're on either sides of this thing But we can both piece stuff together. Let me translate what I heard there Please when he said that so he's seen some things that seem odd to him and now he's gonna make

Wild leaps based on circumstantial evidence to get to the matrix is real Right and that's basically what we're talking about. All I heard was, I've done a lot of drugs and I have a lot of feelings. Yeah, well, that's another way to translate that. Adam pointed out that he was sedate in that interview, but he is sedate right now. Yeah, and he came on this show

and talks about how he's not on drugs. Which is interesting to say. And I watched a lot of episodes, a lot of them open like this, all in different settings, as if he gets immediately kicked out of wherever he just recorded from and now needs to find a new store to broadcast from. But all the openings are really stoned, like half asleep, mumbling, rambling, just kind of what's most key about it, especially when we talk about Opie, is we wish that Opie just

would put some effort into it. Well, I think Jamie Kennedy would be just like Opie if he wasn't as heavily edited as he is right here. If you're not watching, I don't know if you can tell that pretty much every pause is a cut, which means he hasn't really said a sentence or a paragraph all the way through that they could use. They had to just keep cutting to make it sound tolerable. But you have a clip from episode 157 the way that this episode starts off

that demonstrates the heavy editing. Hello friends and family and people that like what I do. This is a pod I've been meaning to do about a week ago. I'm too busy. There's different worlds I'm a part of, and as you know, I am part of one called Jeff Lewis, which I absolutely love to be a part of. And the pod I gotta talk about today is a reaction to the last show I did. And why? Well, because I was affected,

and B, because it's good content Let's talk about Jeff Lewis real quick so he Jeff Lewis has a Radio show on Sirius XM that I guess Jamie's on and then they also have this thing called I guess James also in rain in horror which is on Sirius XM as well So he's fancies himself a radio guy, but Jeff Lewis Apparently is from Bravo or one of these channels. Do you know who he is at all?

I don't, I knew a folk guy named Jeffrey Lewis. He's a great songwriter out of New York. I don't know this Jeff Lewis. This is not that. Well, let me show you, he's promoting his dates on the most recent episode. First thing I'm gonna say is I've got some dates 90s con coming up at the end of March chump con in the middle of April chump con. I was like, what the, what are we talking about here with chump con? Oh, also he's at

the book of black box coming up to on April 1st. So I went to look into this chump con thing and this is Jeff Lewis and your favorite chumps oh it's the same time the word Vegas we could go to this hey oh no it's April not May yeah never mind getting my months confused to find some new chumps apparently, I don't know what this guy does, but if you look at the Saturday, you have a meet and greet cocktail hour to start things off. And then you have a pool party thing. Yeah, this is a convention. This is a convention, but I don't know who chumps are.

Jeff Lewis live from seven till nine from Bravo's flipping out Free free V's Hollywood house lift and serious XM Jeff Lewis and your favorite chumps take center stage at Zouk nightclub For an unforgettable night in Las Vegas now when I hear a guy who is known for like house flipping shows What does he do on stage? I don't know, but I have a feeling it's not gonna look like what we're looking For sure What does he do on stage? I don't know, but I have a feeling it's not gonna look like what we're looking Stock photo for sure. It's a new year's eve for the fish concert for some reason so anyway, I was super distracted by the the jeff lewis talk because Him and jamie kennedy are super tight They do a lot of things together

but let's get back to the episode you checked out, Adam, because he starts off this episode in a very stuttering John escway. He addresses the haters and he really addresses the haters here. And I think that the reason I don't really want to address this is because the people that are negative are very low vibrational Meaning they have succeeded they have gotten my attention You understand what this is and they have now pulled me down To their level they down. Yes. They are a literally a lower

Vibrational Yes, they are a literally a lower vibrational frequency. They drink alcohol, probably most of them. There's a bitterness there. There's a sadness there. And they're behind, they're not really want to engage in a conversation. They're behind a hidden profile. They're not open so they can also be poked at or critiqued or even found out about. They're all hidden and they poke from behind a very safe wall. Um, well, congratulations.

You've got my attention. So then he goes on to talk about how he's only going address this this one time, it just needs to be talked about. But there's a lot of tells in there. The fact that he's going, yeah, and these people who say negative things, like you click on their profile, you can't learn anything about them, no matter how much you Google their screen name, it's like, what are you up to over there, Jamie?

Quiet part, love. Whoops. On top of that, everything he said sounded like he was talking about himself and I didn't even realize this about him until he started talking. Like you really have decided you know who this group of people are as individuals and you know what's going on. What is it about like this guy's not OP, he's not John, he's at least managed to stay coherent and upright enough to maintain relationships with people. OP could be doing 90s cons, he could, right? If he wanted to, people wanted to meet him, he could work his way into something. He could be do, you know,

and then charm that guy and get his own podcast just like this guy did but all of these guys are not I don't know what it is the second it becomes about them Everything changes the second they're criticizing them. I mean, this was just a really fancy way of saying you're a bunch of losers I'm sorry. We're low Vibration people we're losers and we don't get it. You know what fucks all these people up all people you just said Jamie as well. We're gonna see Howard Stern a little bit on the show coming up They have never been in a world where the interaction goes both ways and they can't deal with it No, they can't figure it out

It's like I put out a video and then just some schlep of the YouTube accounts allowed to say that it sucks What's that all about when I was on the radio when I was doing movies? I didn't have to hear about this criticism I was just surrounded by sick of fans who enjoyed everything I did what the fuck this this sucks and I know he's heard people do stuff like this and criticize them and It's totally different when it's him. What are we gonna say Chris? Well, it's just so childish because you want to put it out on that format You must know what it's like when you're looking at other comments on other videos, but you just don't want it for yourself. Yeah Not to spoil it, but Howard even says he's just like I don't see these cameras at other people's

Looking around at the other one. It's like what the fuck But I said you brought up 90s con I did look into this and I wanted to go to the website here and uh Adam I am wildly aware that you could be a part of this you maybe you have been a part of this at some points in your life so this is not to be insulting to you but take it for what you mean it for uh this is the promotional video it for what you mean it for this is the promotional video first up let me ask this out of before I've insulted you already when you know I love just the insinuation that I would be sitting here making fun of Jamie for doing this but then immediately turn around and get sensitive when it became

about me after just having pointed out what a dick move that is to be. All right, good. I'm glad you feel the way you do. If I told you, hey man, 90s Con is coming up, would you A, know what it was specifically, or B, be able to guess what that would be? Because the 90s is just a decade of time. I would not know what it was specifically,

but I would know exactly what it was generally when they said it. I know it's gonna be in an airport, a hotel, ballroom somewhere, and not the main city, but right off of the main city, and it's going to be a bunch of events that are all in the same little area, and they're not like, they're just signings and dance contests and karaoke's and cocktail hours and pictures. that. Nick Carter is gonna be there. Whoever AJ McQueen is. Family Matters. And the rest. Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Is Sabrina there? And so many more. And yeah, this is exactly what you were describing. You saw that. We're here at 90's Con. I'm your host, Christy Carlson

Romano. Yeah, this is them coming down the elevator to the hotel lobby. This is my first time in a long time. I'm really excited to see people see their faces. Oh my gosh, I gotta watch that again. That's Leah Thompson. She is not excited to see people. No. She can't even come up with a reason why she'd want to see fans to see their faces, I guess.

Opie would be more excited. She's like a big director who does a bunch of stuff she doesn't she's honestly just going because she wants to she doesn't need the money she's like if you say so I don't know what her motivation is oh it's it must just be to connect with people because she's not like she likes here this is my first con in a long time I'm really excited to see people this is my first kind of the long time really excited and see people be a lot of fun. Yeah, could you smile? Could you pretend you're an actor? Can you pretend you're excited about this their faces? It's a great experience getting to interact with fans. It's it's really special

You know that thing that we hire security for and then try to avoid all day every day Interacting with fans can't wait for it. Who was that greaser picking up a child? Well apparently she's gonna be stuck in a corner having to explain the the time Paradox of back to the future with Jamie Kennedy for hours on end if she doesn't have security I would talk to her about back to the future 2 for six hours if she'd allowed me. I have so many questions that still remain unanswered. Also, you gotta say, the wallpaper they have on here? Yeah.

Dude, you know you're at 90s con. That's pretty sweet. I love how they're not even their names, they're just the show. No one knows the names from Boy Meets World. I don't even know half these shows. I know, I know. Hocus Pocus. Familiar, either. All right, let's get back to your clips out here

I didn't mean to get us that sidetracked. No, we can do a whole show just on these I love these this the smaller and the more far away and intimate the better There's so much fun to look at the most random people show up and you should probably go to Hacker media The most random people show up and you should probably go to hack a mania Com in Las Vegas My it's the same time as 90s con and I've already committed right my favorite was when Brian Johnson went to devil cotton too and he came back to Tom Steve David was telling the guys About like so what do you do like just go get people's autographs and stuff because they're picturing something like this right? Hey, it's to explain. It's like well. No, it's actually live podcast

They do shows and stuff like that. I get to sit on the panels We're making fun of one person for an entire weekend. You've never been Extended it to brunch and a baseball game This jerk Okay, the show's over all right getting back to your clips on here adam So he explains how we got started in podcasting As if any of this matters, this is a longer clip. I did speed it up a little bit adam when he sent me his notes He said um

1.5 x speed is probably a good Speed to watch jv kennedy. So I tried to speed things up a little when I first started to join the show, I did the run and you know, it was when we were doing it at Jeff's house and I was just a guest and he liked me. I was just promoting my movie and then he liked me and he had me back and then he had me again. He liked my opinions and then the next thing on four or five, six, seven, deep, whatever, uh, you know, then I had a different, I had an argument, and then, you know, that made me come to a little less, and then there were certain things going on in the world.

His style is so obnoxious. Remember, he's explaining to the trolls what's up. That's the whole point of this episode, is to tell the trolls what's up. And now he's going back to the whole, every little detail, and then we did like six episodes, but then we had a falling out. So I stopped doing the show, but then I came back and it's like, none of this, it's neither here nor there. You

do a show now. We know. And that's what they're talking about the show that you're doing now. We didn't want to do. And then they moved the show back to the studio. And then, you know, I didn't do the show. And then I was so happy when I got a text from Jeff about nine months ago and he said, hey, do you wanna come to the show? I'd love to have you. And so then I went in and then, you know,

different things happened and he's like, I'm getting this other hour. Would you like to come on and do that? It was just like every week, it's like, do you wanna do one? It was never, there's no contract. There's no, it wasn't like, this is your job. This was. This was like hey, do you want to I can't take this anymore I know i'm honored, you know, of course i'd love to are the trolls writing things like what's your contract?

How did you negotiate this like why is he bringing any of this up? I can't imagine who in in real life. He would be talking to like this that wouldn't be like Are you okay? Yeah. Or shut up. Yeah, they went, let's go. Da da da da da, da da da da, da da da da. What, and who's keeping track? Who cares? There was one little interesting thing in there that you completely glossed over.

You were like, and then they made a call, and then I dialed back, and then we got into a big dramatic fight, and then I called him again. And then nine months later, yada yada yada. What was the big dramatic fight? Yeah, well, what are wait nine months later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dramatic fight. Yeah. Well, what are you skipping over that and telling us all this?

Nothing. And then they call me insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Straining order. Couldn't get across the border.

Alpacas. And I would love for him and Stuttering John to sit down with each other and just talk about how they started podcasting, how this all came about. That'd be a excruciating conversation. Let me put that together for you at Hackamania. That's right. Hackamania.com. So this is him talking about his process for doing his podcast because as I was showing you, he interviews guests quite often on his show. And so you never know when you show up. I don't ever research anybody.

Because I just want to go in, I want to be, Marlon Brando was one of the greatest artists in the history of the world. Never wanted to read his lines in rehearsal, never even really wanted to read the script. He would just look at it briefly and then he would talk it. So as he was doing it, it was fresh and new. He didn't want to.

Yeah, but you're not Marlon Brando. Yeah. And that's the mistake a lot of these people make, is they go, this guy who's super talented, is a one of a kind person, he does it this way, so that's how I'm gonna do it. Like, yeah, you're not one of a kind. Why don't you go ahead and read some notes

about the actors and who you're gonna talk to. Yeah, and why don't you look at his life before, like he was in his 50s, because he used to memorize his lines. It wasn't until he had retired and quit and like given up and won everything you can win in life that he suddenly couldn't memorize his lines. It wasn't until he had retired and quit and like given up and won everything you can win in life that he suddenly couldn't memorize his lines and didn't give a shit. He gave a shit for a long time and worked really hard and then taught acting in his own way. Like he wasn't about not giving a shit and I'm sure when he said it,

he wasn't thinking about you and your podcast, Jamie. I want to know because he thought the element of surprise was one of the most engaging thing an actor can do and why he is Considered possibly our greatest actor and I just want to point out like Larry King is the better example here because Larry King interviewed people for a living and Notoriously had no idea who the person he was interviewing was he's like in this grade I get to find out this person is like I mean you could like do a little research, but okay I get this great I get to find out this person is like I mean you could like do a little research, but okay Sure to usher in let's just say before there was silent pictures. I'm really going down around a hole here, but let's just go you know

Silence that up. Let's just say yeah, this is not pictures. I don't know I believe it was these comic genius, but let's just say the silence they could do it with expressions And then when they had talkies yeah guys like you know let's say hello Bosch you know Humphrey Bogart and someone's editing this shit too they're deciding this is all the stuff they want to keep in it sounds like shit he takes and this was the best one well it's not like shit because I sped it up and I told the software not to increase the pitch so the software is trying to okay that I don't I think it's part of it okay it just doesn't sound like he's actually recording with a microphone he's speaking to.

That's possible. Yeah, it's giving it that autotune quality, but he really, this is him. And that was a certain topic. Brando was the first guy to come off the boards of New York City in the early 40s, and he would deny his eyes to the camera because he knew that he wanted to look into his eyes so bad at the last minute his trick was show the eyes So then you're engaged it was beautiful He's such a beautiful man, and that was the ushering Jane Jane Acting chaplain was one era Bogart was another era thermal the troll was another era which then gave birth to you know the Dusty's and Al Pacino's Which then gave birth to you know the Leos and my generation well dude I'm gonna move to the other side of the bar did you hear what you just put up with that Terminator thing buddy just put himself in a category with he's like it was Pacino and then Leo and me the

Mount Rush for ya and the Dusty's no one says the dust no one's Colin Dustin Hoffman dusty fucking asshole it's just and you're conflating all these different stories that you randomly heard from different things. It was Bogart that wouldn't look you in the eye because he was looking for his mark. He was looking for where to stand and then he would hit it and then he could look at you because he hit the mark. That's what he was doing. So it wasn't a master plan where he was teasing you with his eyeballs. No, and it has nothing to do with Brando or any of this stuff, and why you're comparing free associating to a microphone at a veterinary clinic

outside of Vegas to Brando doing streetcar named desire is baffling. It's what he knows, Adam, it's what he knows. I mean, Dustin Hoffman wouldn't put him in that category himself, but you're putting yourself in that category with them. Okay. So this is last clip from this episode, but talk about reading the comments that he's been reading. They've not been great. So anyway, I started reading these comments and I just felt like they were so out of pocket and I

never respond. And I'm like, I don't know why, but it's just because I was sick. I'm like I don't know why but it's just so sick I'm like this is so out of pocket so I started like commenting back and I just you know like what I want to react to a couple of them here because I was like you know it's crazy so he's gonna canceling of celebrities that thing is actually a interesting thing an interesting time this is such a Patrick Michael thing to do where you get butthurt over some comments You're like I'm gonna respond to these in real time you guys can watch me do it Because our show is so celebrity based and gossip based and that's why I did this because it's like behind the scenes of peeking The curtain will gossip a little honesty. So I think that would be engaging for the crowd

There are people just got today's show is so funny Jamie Karen Kennedy again. This is the dumbest thing Karen Kennedy is the nickname The first three words is like what the fuck and it's the first funny thing on the podcast an hour and a half It's the comments prefaces it with just so you know I'm not doing this for me like this is for your entertainment value I don't even give a shit. I don't care You're the Karen. I'm not a Karen You're the Karen. I'm not a Karen. I can't hear the care We get a Jamie Kennedy hate that he can't treat women like shit the way he used to in the 90s when he had some Relevancy let's break that comment down

Let's break that down shall we tell you not to skateboard at 5 p.m.. On the school property. That's just not me I can't treat women like shit, so this is libel like so basically I treat Anonymous comment on a YouTube videos like this is the libel is what this is he's doing all the greatest sense There's some Opie. There's a show I love it Happens so much. It's a different people all over the same fucking reaction, dude They're just saying the 90s were a different era than the current one is with a little jab at you That's all they're saying and they're making fun of the times and you and all this stuff. You're a comedian How can it not be funny only when it's directed at you?

Could you imagine if I just sat here and read our supper at it for an entire episode? Maybe I'll do that someday. Bonus show idea! I do in my head sometimes. I really do because I read and I'm on dabblers and I'm posting and I'm looking and sometimes I'm like I got to address this and then I start to in my head and I hear what I sound like and I stop myself. I didn't realize what a gift this talent of mine was to just stop myself. Not talk.

Oh my god It's so edited, but he's got to bring up the phone Like this is so controlled but no one would print him notes for this He has to read it off his phone just they're like you're on your own buddy Another greatest hit just like Aaron Imholed. Yeah, we don't get to see it, right? Yeah facts the way I used to in the 90s. So in the 90s, I was treating women like shit Um, I'm gonna have arguments with women every decade. So that's just the timelines I was treating women like shit Um I tell you I've had arguments with women every decade so that's just the timelines off But treating them like shit okay, this feels personal and then it says the guy doesn't know you Jamie

It's not personal. It's only personal because you're making it personal some relevancy, so I'm on a show Which is the biggest satellite radio company in America? It's the only one I'm on the show once a week satellite radio company also the smallest America But now he's trying to prove to this one random guy who commented on a video He's still relevant show business like that proves you're not relevant show business Yeah, listing his credit right so literally not the right thing to do Treated women like shit if you're gonna react like I know He's just like alright. I mean I smack a bitch around but she deserves it his argument Well has treated women like shit cuz it was the 90s. I've been doing it for five

Shit and I'm only again. This is I'm going down to their level because I just don't know why I'm doing it one low vibration But again, they're winning because I'm giving them air correct It's okay really want to address this like and so you're recognizing that everything you're doing is wrong, but you're continuing forward anyway Okay, that was just a very schizophrenic conversation He just had the people that live in his mind and they all answered in rapid fire And they all disagreed with him and he said fuck it. I'm doing it anyway Yeah, right. What do you guys know anyway? And they all answered in rapid fire and they all disagreed with him, and he said fuck it. I'm doing it anyway So I maybe I'm not relevant enough in your eyes, but that's what I play every big colony club every weekend I'm at every top autograph con all the time

top autograph con A hell of a boat straight there. I don't know if I was ready for that. No one told me there was going to be boasting. Spider-Man, you know, they're not making it right now. Excuse me, if I had two lines in Spider-Man, would it be more relevant? If I was, I'm on a game show, funny you should ask. I'm sorry, it's not the voice. Is that, like, it's just these words that like, they have power and it's like, what are you saying? And then of course, when you click, it's completely a private account. And by the way, this would have been a lot worse if I did this a week ago.

So actually, it's good I took all the time. And so he's clicking into the account and trying to get information from WTS. John Sarasani has been kicked off of Instagram multiple times for doing just this, showing the guy's photo, put a shitty comment and talking about his ugly wife and, oh, she got two kids. And it's just like, you don't want to be engaging in this and all the parasocial relationship goes both ways. He thinks it was a flex to say that he stood for a week before completely unraveling about this

in an unhinged, unplanned manner. Not a cry for help. All right, I want to get back to the world is the matrix. He's going to prove that for us. Because that's the Jamie Kennedy that I want to listen to. I want to know what's going on. Does he have facts? Okay, is this based on science? I'm gonna give you an example. So dr. Joe dispensa

Alyssa went to a whole thing this weekend with dr. Joe dispensa and he measures your waves different brain waves from Theta to the different terms of it and from when you start imagine meditation Until you're done and it shows you the different actual science hooked up to these things the difference in your cognitive abilities if you will So it's not just a hippie thing. This guy doesn't like just hippie stuff. He likes real data so this whole thing of like words of power, and this is a simulation and matrix and all these different

things. I'm seeing signs of it every day. Do you see how one thing has nothing to do with the other? He starts by saying this doctor he does the scientific things or it's measuring stuff, and he's collecting data, and then it's just like, so the matrix exists. Like, whoa, you have to explain that a lot better than that, because just because there is a guy who's performing these scientific experiments doesn't mean that anything you're about to say is true. In fact, that was such a weird aside that he had just saying like, oh yeah, someone I know was at a doctor's, they were measuring stuff. Anyway, let me tell you why I think the Matrix exists. This, this right here shows you why Scientology exists and why it's

successful. Because if you're in any kind of state, drug-induced, hungover or emotional, physical, and someone that sounds smart comes to you and says a lot of words that don't make sense, but they sound like they make sense, and the guy seems smart and he's tapping into things that are true with me, but he's saying all these words, you just kind of like bridge that gap yourself. You assume what you don't understand is your limitation

and that they're smart and you just go with it instead of because you're in a broken state. If you weren't, you'd realize, oh, this guy's just like scatting. This is just like free associate words just coming in. Scientology was smart, but they took it to the next level. They said, let's get a device that makes sounds and has things on it that bounce around. So the E-meter, people would look at that and be like, oh, what does that mean? Like, oh man, we gotta get you help right away.

I've never seen an E-meter like this. Jamie would love that. I told you I did it. I put my finger in and they say, think about something happy, it goes up and down. And they go, uh-huh, you put your finger in, they go think about something sad, it goes up and down. They go, uh-huh, you see, now it's up to me

to decide if that was anything or not. But I bet every other person goes, oh my god, the meter's moving, you're right. Instead of it's just moving, they're just trying to dupe you. Like you look like you're in need of something. Jamie, when you go to the doctor, when you're at the bar, you sound like you're searching for something. That's some, that's a quality that people fill with their needs and with their desire to take your money. And you're allowing it to happen. And you're not coming off well balanced. If you want to sell these conspiracy theories, they better come from a source that sounds like they know what the fuck they're talking about, not like a lost searching hungover rabbit. Well, I'm glad you said that, Adam, because now we're

going to get into the proof portion of this episode. Let's get to the facts. Why is The Matrix a documentary and not just a science fiction movie? Here's an example of how the Matrix is real. It's insane. This is an insane example. And you tell me there are no coincidences anymore. There's none of that. Oh my god. That's so weird or Really? That's odd. No, no, this is shit is it's all Sims man. It is the Sims There's just too much weird shit that it's just you can't we can't just oh it's just coincidence and I feel like everyone's experiencing it and it's a matter of if you pick it up and you realize it and

Maybe because I haven't drank in six years or really do any drugs or anything that I'm super aware of stuff and it's becoming like intense like the world's a drug, the world's a drug dude. Says the sober guy. Does he count DMT as a drug? Yeah, he said I barely do any drugs or something like that. It was sounding like California sober to me. If I know what he's picking up on. So he says, coincidences, coincidences don't exist. Now I just had something happen to

me on Sunday. I went to the hockey game here in Rochester and who's sitting in my section but trucker Andy and his wife? Same section. And you didn't play that. And we didn't talk about it or anything. And he's not even a sports fan. And yet here we are sitting in a hockey game. And I went, the matrix is real. No, I went, is there a possibility that Andy goes to a hockey game with his nephew once a year? And is there some type of probability that we would both be at the same hockey game sitting in the same section?

Yes. It's not a coincidence. There's a probability of it happening. So it has to occur at a certain point. Now running into anyone, what makes it, what makes people like Jamie Jamie what ruins it for them is It's not like they're like what if I see trucker Andy today at the hockey game It's just you have no idea and then it's a person you know I run into people I know places all the time And of course, it's a coincidence

You know, there's nothing else to it than that. Yeah, people are we live in the same town and there's a entertainment event happening. It's kind of sad actually. We're both there. Yeah, I don't know if what he's talking about is two local guys in a small town running into each other at a minor league hockey game. I think maybe he's talking about having seen. No. What is he talking about? He's gonna get into it. I know, I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, there's more to it than just like, witnesses don't just happen. What were you gonna say though? I'll let you finish your thought. Oh, no, I'm curious where he's getting at. Because I hate this shit. Like, I am someone

who believes that things are not necessarily what we think they are. There's more to the world than we know of than what we've been taught that and every every step we make in science kind of confirms that But the greatest minds in science are like, yep There's things we don't know and we don't know guys like Jamie that are like I'll take it from here I will fill all of this in and explain in some way why it's a conspiracy to keep me from working in more movies That's Jamie Kennedy. All right. Well, he's gonna conspiracy to keep me from working in more movies. That's Jamie Kennedy. Alright, well, he's going to talk to us normies, Adam, and... I'll try and keep up.

Yeah. Let us know where we're at. And it ties into many things that I won't say because the normies will fry me because their brains are mush. And I don't do drugs, so I'm crazy because I'm awake. Damn I'm coming in hot now. You can like that. I'm just saying come on man. Like, don't roast me for my beliefs.

The Matrix. Why is it real? Yeah we're 10 minutes in on this fucking video. I want to know why The Matrix is real and he does all this stuff where it's like he's always concerned about the haters and you guys are going to roast me for this and poke fun but I'm telling you. It's like, alright, just get to it then. Have some confidence in what you're saying. So he starts telling this story. I pulled this clip thinking that this was basically the whole story and then it went on for seven more minutes.

But just to give you a sense of what he's talking about. Alright. I go to my friend's house. We film some content. We're supposed to film for like an hour. We end up filming for like an hour and a half then he has some friends over and he has more friends over Everything's great. Everybody leaves. I'm having out. I'm having a good time We start talking about one of his co-workers one of his co-workers. I said, oh, how do you guys know each other? He tells me how they met blah blah blah I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna pause it there This goes on and on and on. And basically what happened

was he met up with this guy, he stayed longer than he thought he was going to, had a conversation about a person that they both knew. And then another guy came and picked him up. And then he somehow ran into that person that they were talking about earlier that he hadn't talked about in a long time. But it just so happened that he ran into the person they were talking about earlier that day. So let's get to the epiphany here. I take three steps and I go, hey bro, I'm walking with my man who picked me up and all this stuff.

And I said, hey bro. He said, yeah. And I said, do you remember the acting teacher I told you encouraged me about the commercial? And he said, yeah. And I go go that's him yeah in my building out of the blue so he's really trying to sell this hard because he's like normally I'd walk this way but today I walked that way and normally I'd walk this way, but today I walked that way. And normally I wouldn't check the mail, but today I decided to go check the mail,

which added a little more time to how long it took me to get to this place, and then the guy is right there and he's really selling it. And end up coming into, I don't know, in the building where I'm at, after all the detours and the different turns and all the, and at that moment talking about the commercial during that time, how it was encouraged by him and how at that moment right through the door

at that moment with all the different distractions and detours to stop at that moment what what i want you to take a second i haven't seen this dude in 20 years i am telling you the way he communicates it's so winding and i got lost a few times and what he was saying And then I came back again and after all that he really tries to sell Can you fucking believe this shit is that crazy I ran to this guy had seen him in 20 years Yeah, you're both in LA it happens or Vegas or wherever the fuck he is You're gonna run into people people like this are the reason why I can't bring up Machu Picchu or the pyramids at a dinner party without the person turning their back to me and starting a conversation with

Right. Oh, where's this gonna go? And this is honestly holding back progress because you bring up any of this stuff and you just these are the only people Interested they give it a bad name and they're just trying to explain away You know everything that they're unhappy with in their lives, you know, everything that they're unhappy with in their lives, unfortunately. Yeah, that's really what's happening. He was interested in this while he was, you know, working and happy. He wasn't, you know, interested in this when he wasn't looking at the haters all the time

and obsessed with why people are trying to keep him down and connect everything. It's funny when you realize your legacy is over, you start becoming obsessed with things that go on forever. Oh. That's interesting. He really is trying to figure out the meaning of life here. And this incident that happened to him, it's blowing his mind. Well, I didn't want to go that way. Why? I don't know! Someone fucking led me!

Someone fucking controlled me and made me go and cross fucking paths and fucking straight-up Fucking GTA my ass. I am blowing my own mind as I'm telling you this You need to connect to this pod right now and go what the fuck dude The best part is he never even talked to the guy He saw he recognized he was there and didn't even say a word to him So it didn't make a difference in his life in any way But someone's controlling him. So yeah, I know he didn't know why he'd walked a different way But earlier in the story said he walked outside cuz he wanted to get fresh air

And he wanted to check the mail like he definitely has control over his own body and Movement and to what end what was the fucking point? Do you like he's there and what that was the thing that that was the payoff was so bad Because if he would have said and then I run into this guy and he offers me this job And I had this huge gig coming up now. You'd be like oh, that's coincidental But just like I just saw a guy that we were talking about earlier that day not even uh oh hey, what's up? Yeah, it doesn't even say what's up to him, and then he says that

Oh, hey, what's up? Yeah, it doesn't even say what's up to him and then he says that We can't know any differently. You cannot tell me you cannot I want one person in this comment One person you just to write this shit off. You're gonna write it off. You're gonna write it off No, you can't you cannot just write this off This is insane. I was daring the trolls to tell me it's an idiot. That's always a good move. But he says it's right after this that I think makes the whole thing moot, in my opinion. And it happens a lot in a lot of other ways. And it happens a lot. Yeah, yeah, these things happen a lot.

If you said, Carl, how many times you run into Trucker Andy at the Amherst game? Never. How many times do you see someone you know there? Oh, usually. Usually run into people I know. It'd be weird if you didn't. Yeah, I usually see some people I know like-minded hockey fans from this area. They tell these stories about like dogs getting lost like miles and miles or even farther than that away from their home and somehow they like find their way to their owners work or like You know where they live they travel these incredible distances and we always say oh, they just have this superpower They have a super smell. I don't know if it's a super smell

I think it's just really strong and And if you live by the ocean, they can tell where the ocean is. So they just start heading in that direction. Then by the time they get to the ocean, they know you live by that fast food, so they start to smell, and they just head. It's not like divine intervention. They don't have to map out ahead of time,

like looking at a compass going, I'll probably start northwest. Yeah. It sounds magical when you don't break it down and think logically, like, oh, well, that's magical. But an association is believable. I can figure it out. The idea that when people meet or even like exes

when you've been close for a long time, that your bodies even can sense or tell when they're near each other. And maybe they do even kind of unconsciously drive you towards each other. Talk about that stuff. That's why I texted 2am. It's not because I'm drunk.

It's correct. It's like there's things you can actually talk about if you want to get behind it, other than just, so everyone's wrong and I'm right about everything. Well, that's the other thing too. It's like to what end? So I agree with you, Adam. There's things that are not explained. We might be living in a simulation. I don't know it's very possible

But to what end in this like weird a coincidence happened and therefore that's a glitch in the matrix or someone's controlling me It's like Why? What is that? It doesn't prove anything? All right, do you want to talk with Cato Cailin real quick? thing. All right. Do you want to talk with Kato Kaelin real quick? He was a recent. He's a recent guest on this show. And they're talking about going to the Playboy Mansion back in the 90s Playboy parties. And so Kato was telling the story about how

he's from Wisconsin or something, the Midwest, and his brother is there and him and his brother both get the invite to go and him and his brother both go to the mansion. They put the tent. There's a, there's a bar by the pool, there's another bar by the corner, by the bathrooms. Yeah. And I was in worse, my first time. What year?

This is the 90s, 95. My first was 98. We go to the bar. I definitely saw you there. Yeah, we talked. I think I said I was a huge fan. Thank you. My brother goes up I love the had to make it about him real quick. Oh, well, I went 98 and I saw you there He's like, yeah. Yeah. I was I told you you're great. Oh, yeah. Yeah as you should okay

Was Cato the guy as close as you are he goes? Hey Cato this guy He looks like that doogie howzer and it was I go Shawn and then What's do you I forget do these room um fuck Neil Patrick Harris. Yeah, so they run into Neil Patrick Harris and his brother so naive He's just like oh, it looks like a celebrity. He's like no no it is that guy It's we're at the playway mansion in LA of course it is so they couldn't think of the actors name we played doogie Howser and Now we get into my

buddy crows his favorite thing in podcasting boomers googling shit for some reason they just have an urge to do this do you see our brains oh my god do you how's it what's his name you know his name gone girl I don't know but we know Patrick. Yes Patrick Do we have to look it up? They'll know it the chat It's not so he goes I go it is and he was talking to me doogie and we're getting along Patrick J patch Patrick. I Was in fucking the movie with him to know she says you got to look it up. What a good guy Your brother goes doogie doogie. How's her doogie? to look it up. What a good guy. Doogie your brother goes doogie doogie Howser doogie you look it up

Doogie wait doogie Howser MD is is is Oh God wait a minute. What oh my god do he house or MD? Are you ready? Give me a hint. We'll play the game here. This guy's not a good ad for sobriety. I know he's like I'm just thinking clearly guys That's why I know all this stuff cuz I'm not on drugs Is there no one that can tell Jamie Kennedy or Ethan Klein when they should or shouldn't be recording? Cuz they can't tell themselves

I have no inner barometer of like dude clear your throat get yourself together Yeah, and I don't know something she was listening can't tell he's like shaking his foot In Kato's lap in this very weird aggressive jittery way. That's just making Kato lean farther and farther back It's very old to be a fly on the wall of this fucking conversation. I can't believe they're submitting this to the podcast. Getting to be like, we're done, we got it, there it is. It's worse than that. This is a highlight that they put out

from a 12 minute, a highlight from a hour and 20 minute conversation. They're like, oh, this is the good stuff right here. I was gonna make that joke while he was going, uh, uh, uh, on the next, but no, they're really doing it. Yeah, literally, and so he finally looks it up and then Kato is gonna try to guess at it, I guess.

Patrick's right, you're correct. Patrick's one of the names, it's crazy, I've both forgotten. John Patrick. Ha ha ha! David, am I right? I blame COVID and 5G. Patrick's one, I'll give you this. He's not joking, by the way.

He does think that 5G is the reason why they can't think of Neil Patrick Harris's name. Wow. First initial, the first name. So sad! I have it now and I'm probably 10 years... No! No, no, no, no. And I have it, you and I'm 10 years younger than you. I can't believe it. I might be 15 years young. I don't know how old you are, but I have it too. It starts with an N Neil Patrick

I can't believe it's fucking fine So one of the things I picked up in that is where he goes dude I couldn't think of it and I'm 10 years younger than you. I might be 15 years younger than you. Who looks better? Wow, yeah. Between Cato Cailin and Jamie Kennedy. So when he said that, I'm like, I gotta look this up. Jamie Kennedy's 54 years old.

Cato Cailin is 66 and looking amazing, I have to say. There's hope for us all. Very impressive. I think we all look that good when we stand next to Jamie Kennedy. Maybe that's what it is. Spare some change.

Yeah. Notice how bored Jamie was the whole time Kato was telling his story. He could not have been more distracted and more mumbly and disinterested. The second we're playing the guess the first initial game, he's wildly animated and engaged and couldn't be more excited. What an asshole. It really is yes He makes everything about himself. He was empowered yes So this is just a funny comment after they're talking about Neil Patrick Harris for a little bit because of course is that a playboy? Mansion, okay, was he straight then I have no idea, but he was talking it was my first time

I wasn't a gay bar over there And it was Neil Patrick it was my first time. I was in a gay bar over there. No. And it was, Neil Patrick Harris, was he straight back then? When did he decide to become gay, do you remember? Whenever it was issued to him, like you get it in the mail, I think from the LA county. It's like an AARP card. Yeah, it's some point. Oh, I'm gay now, okay, cool.

Like jury duty. Yeah, 13th birthday or quinceanier or something and then you get your card. That's how it is in LA I don't know how it is in Rochester. I know I was obviously very different. Mm-hmm You had I don't know if I want to play these clips But you you watch one other thing where he was watching the scream from 2022 trailer Oh, we can just talk about it because there's nothing to see and I don't want you to get copyright. Yeah Struck it's just unbelievable how much of a John thing he's doing of going, wow.

Oh shit. He's just watching the scream trailer and has nothing to say and nothing to add. But it is like far and away the most views of any videos that he does. And it's really worth noting just if I could connect everything and tie it all together, fucking we complain that Opie won't talk about any of the things that we want him to talk about unless he is forced to by the chat. Well, I guess all that people really wanna talk

to Jamie Kennedy about is scream. So he goes out of his way to do everything scream related, but not like he's forced to, he does it by choice. So him just sitting there watching the new trailer for Scream that he's not in is like 150,000 views. And people love it, like they're so excited. The comments are all full of love. If Opie actually had a show called

Reacting to Anthony's First Show, everyone that watched Ant Show would wanna see it. Instead he's gotta be the sneaky little weasel. Right, yeah, no, it's a good Ant Show would want to see it. Instead he's got to be the sneaky little weasel. Right. Yeah. No, it's a good point. He's leaning into it. And I'm sure what Jamie Kennedy is thinking is that all these Scream videos are like funding his conspiracy theory ones that get the 1,000, 2,000 views. The important ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The message. He's watching this trailer and it is funny because it's like all the people from the original cast they brought back. I've never watched, I've watched Scream scream, but I've watched him all I don't know if he was killed off or why Jamie Kennedy's not in the most recent one

But one of the new cast members says a line that Jamie Kennedy said in scream and he gets very excited Like a little kid like oh, that's my line. That was my line. I said that line and The comments were like it was amazing when Jamie saw them saying his line like it just meant something to people that watched that stuff And he's giving it to them all right, so that is we talked a lot about it that is Jamie Kennedy show and Glad we're able to check this out. I might to keep tabs on this Jamie Kennedy fella Seems like he's off the tracks a little bit. It's not gonna get better

He's not gonna show up and suddenly have it all together and been like the haters are allowed to have their opinion and I have mine Explaining things rational you're figuring out what other movies do you think? You figure a real oh That's a fun thought experiment like not vanilla sky Minority Report. Oh, yeah. That's one that a lot of people always point to as like, see? I mean, I'm one of those people who point to that.

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Benjamin Moore, see the love. I want to talk about our cringe of the week. Cringe of the week. This one comes in from Robo shitstain MK 9000. Now, Gavin Newsom has a new podcast. I think it's called This Is Gavin Newsom. And the whole point of this podcast is for Gavin

to seem like he's not a lunatic and to kind of center himself politically so he can make a run for it in 2028 and he's trying to be a viable presidential candidate. He just had a lot of disasters happen in his state and so he's like, he doesn't have a lot of support of the party I would say right now as we try to change that and he's had on some interesting guests I watched him with Michael Savage. I used to listen to Michael Savage way way back. He was syndicated here in Rochester and

He had Steve Bannon on but he also has on some Democrats like Tim Walls was recently on the show it's actually more interesting to listen to him talk to Tim Walls because Gavin Newsom is trying to tell Tim Walls here in this clip that like you disagree with Republicans that doesn't mean you should demonize them and say that they're all scum and I think that's a good point. I think all politicians should think that way. If people vote for the other side, or you disagree with them, it doesn't make them a bad person. They just have different ideas of what would make this country better, our lives better. Is that a controversial thing? I don't think so. But it's divisive. Well, I can tell you that Tim Walz is not having it. It does not get through to him

as Gavin's trying to explain this. This is part of the conversation I'm trying to have is you gotta respect people you disagree with, even, and you can't just dismiss people. This notion of- How do you fight it? Well, this notion of tucks. I think I could kick most of their ass. I do

But I don't know if we're gonna fall into that place where we want to okay we challenge you to do it Do you know a WWE fight here type of thing? Honor it is it's a natural reaction. I think it's one of the reasons we're losing so many men and again, it's multi-ethnic It's not just white men. We're losing them. We're losing them to these guys online We're losing people that I'm bringing on this podcast as well. That's why I brought these are bad guys though. These are bad guys, but they exist and we could deny they exist. They exist. Not only they exist, they persist and they're actually influencing young kids every single day. How do we move some of those guys back under a rock?

I think we have to first understand what their motivations are. I think we have to understand what they're actually doing. You don't think that's racism and misogyny? Jesus, Tim, Tim Walzler, nothing from getting blown out in this election. So his first thought is people who I disagree with, I want to fight, and I think I can beat them up. And then he says, well, we can just censor them, right? Just make sure they don't have a voice. And then people can't hear what they have to say. We should probably do that. And then it's just like, yeah,

but you know, there actually are some real things here that are motivating them to have these ideas. Yeah, racism and misogyny. Sure, Tim. Yes. All these people are just evil, awful people that society should just get rid of. Good, good talk, buddy. He really hasn't learned anything. And he's still doubling down on this same kind of approach. And it's like when they have two actors,

and they're doing an improv exercise, and when this starts to happen, you stop the exercise, because one of them's not playing. You can't just say no to everything the other person's saying, or you're just not listening, or you don't hear him. He said no like four times. He's trying to talk about something else and you're like hit him

over the head with a bat. Okay what about a larger bat? Who do we get? Twelve bats. Enough with the bats. It's like maybe there's something else. Maybe this is why we have this paralysis. But these Republicans if we just had more name calling would that solve the issue? could do we could probably like stub their toes or something I don't know hit their dog real hard. What can we do about a big bag of poo? Yeah there? We go that'll fix it right Adam a stun gun. I'm compromising Very good Tim Walls. You're amazing. We love you, buddy we have a Donkey Lips, Michael Ray Bauer,

things are not going well. Patrick Melton plays clips all the time, and clowns him a little bit. So he's been kind of pushing back at that. And talking about how he's in the devil verse and describes what the devil verses, which is always fascinating to me. Can you just let me in on on he's been streaming for a while for how long? Like years. And he has his own show and the show was just him talking about his life and

yes. And his depression is mental health and that kind of stuff. Is this a low cow situation or people supportive or what's happening there? It's full on low cow. Okay. Full on this guy is a loser and can't stop advertising what a big of a loser he is to everyone in the world all the time. But then they have to quote or watch the clips and the videos and then then they say something against the other person. Then the other person watches it and goes, I have to answer them. I have to retort, I have to give my statement. So

then they watch the clip of the other person talking down to them or making fun of them or critiquing them. Then they make a video critiquing that video, then the person that made the original video critiquing them, they go back and critique that new video that they critique them in the videos that they can treat them. And then now they make a new video critiquing that one video as a never-ending cycle of bullshit Pretty good I wouldn't have it any other way. There's been a few good

Summarizations of the dabble verse recently. I'll put that one right up there Yeah, it really is like the Crips and the Bloods, you know The Crips do a drive-by shooting and then the Bloods have to get revenge or the Mason there guys They go to a drive-by shooting. It's just like we're not gonna solve the problem this way the devil verse is not gonna get solved I think and then I go sing a song in front of Melton's house This was one of the best descriptions of the devil verse that I ever heard yeah Yeah, it was completely accurate and you could summarize it with this The devil verse is bullshit Well said my friend

So how did he get pulled into this? How did he become aware of it or Patrick Melton? What did he do? Well Patrick Melton just makes fun of him on his show a lot Uh-huh, and I don't think he likes that. He doesn't like it. Okay. No, he doesn't because he's down on his luck. Things aren't going great for him. He's not getting consistent work. His rent just went up in his apartment. By the way, it might be in this clip package. I forget because I had this ready to go for the last episode. His rents going up to $1,200 a month. Okay, 480 square foot studio with no kitchen.

I didn't know they had apartments for $1,200 in Los Angeles. Well, right. It has to be the cheapest I've really heard of. So, right. It's still way too much for 480 square feet, no kitchen. I mean, he literally has to use the sink in his bathroom for running water. So, so sad. But anyway, yeah, you're asking, you know, how is he in the devil verse?

He actually explains that right here. I don't really watch a lot of them. I don't like to get involved, but I got pulled into this shit. Because I'm a character. That's right. He got pulled in because he's a character. He's too charismatic if you ask me. That's why he's a part of this now. And so he's going to start slapping back a little bit. I guess I have space in their head rent free. It's close to the saying.

I guess I have space in their head Space rent free It sounds more like a sublet but I get what he's going through So this is yeah, this is him explaining his low cow status I am easily made fun of and I get it, I'm a low cow I don't wanna be

Yep, they never do This already sets him above almost everyone that we cover this makes him more self-aware I'm nicer person and just that one fact buddy There are people in the sky and penthouses right now that would kill for your Awareness of what's happening around you that is remarkable. I know you're talking about That which ones in the in the 480 square foot prison right now. Who's really? Yeah, so he goes. I don't want to be a local the only person who wants to be a local is Rob solid He's so pathetic. You can't pull it off

It's incredible. That's amazing, but at least this guy's just like I don't want to be the laughing stock So this is him talking about the situation with his rent But I posted on Twitter F the world they'd be raising rent yearly. I can barely afford to breathe which is true Now I could barely afford to breathe which is true. No, that's that's free It's I literally can't afford to breathe like I mean the thing but okay It does the you know, they charge us for the air and the tires at the gas stations here. They do they really do Yeah, and it gives you that feeling you're like I'm paying for air

Nowadays let alone this shit $1,200 for a 430 square foot box I'm the man in the box with no kitchen and it's called a studio apartment. Laughing my butt off, F you Cali, I'm out! As soon as possible. And that is truthful. But you need three to $5,000 to move out. You need to put first and last somewhere else.

You need to travel, you need to get approved, you need to do a lot of stuff. So I'm going to struggle there. I need a napkin. I need a napkin where he wipes his mouth on his shirt. You think? So this is, he really is in a tough spot right here because he can't afford the rent and it's going up to 1200 bucks a month, but he can't afford to move either. He wants to get out of California, but he's got nowhere to go. It's very strange. It's I know I compare everything that John and Opie, but it's hard not to get at. It's really hard. They all suffer from the same thing. It's like watching John in his Canoga Park apartment, except being honest. Yeah, like actually admitting the amount of

money he truly needs to better himself. All I was thinking while I was watching this is, why the fuck are you in LA? Like there's nothing for you in Los Angeles. He's an actor. But everything self tapes now. There's nothing happening in person. And this guy should be working as a voiceover cartoon guy.

He has done some of that, yeah. Of course he has. He'd be great at it. Like he doesn't need to be in LA. He should be in a small town that he can afford and he should spend his money on gear and he's being honest about everything. Like it's crazy. He's not talking about give me money for a boat. Could you imagine if this guy was talking about raising money for a boat or bragging about the vacation he just took in Jamaica he has no photos from? Can you imagine?

Or how he got laid by the Vietnamese girl last night, but she has to go home for a couple months but she'll be bad. Yeah, he'd have more viewers, but he'd be horrible and I like this guy. Well, you just saw him wipe his mouth off on his shirt and declare that he needs a napkin. This is why bless his heart. My mouth constantly creates saliva. That's one of my problems with my body. That's why I've always had a lisp. My mouth just constantly creates saliva. That's one of my problems with my body. That's why I've always had a lisp My mouth just constantly creates saliva. Sometimes you'll see liquid from my mouth Just constantly it's good that you grew a beard. Wow, observe some of that would that cause a lisp?

I don't think it's a lisp now. It's more like Whatever you call that my mouth constantly creates saliva All right, I know they'd be boasting The the reason why he's pulling this up is because he put on Twitter. Hey my rents going up This is what was me. I got to get out of California and of course what kind of responses is he gonna get from that? Hey Yeah. And of course, what kind of responses is he going to get from that? Hey, Michael Ray Bauer, maybe it's time to get a job. Stop e-bagging and get a job. So he's got a response. I'm assuming they're in the devil verse, but these people

quoted back. Well, maybe it's time you get the job. Do they think that's funny? I mean, I'm an adult. I'm not the brightest person in the room. Right. But the brightest marker in the shed. Do you really think that's the answer for each individual? Whenever they rant about money problems or this problem to that problem, is that the answer? No, but specifically money problems, yes. It is.

It's the answer. It is. One of them. Oh, you guys think that because I don't have any money, I should find a way to make money? Is that what you guys think I should do? Yeah, precisely. Is there an inheritance he's waiting for

that we don't know about? That's a good question. Maybe he's waiting for, what's that station that plays all the reruns all the time? Yeah, me TV or something. I had to pick up salute your shorts and no residuals on Nickelodeon. So you'll start going over residuals Oh, is that a deal you guys had a sign? Okay. Yeah, that was the deal Negotiated deal you Disney and Nickelodeon don't give you residuals They give you little buyouts in the beginning and then it's just we do whatever we fucked

Mm-hmm all those kids from from that stuff. There's nothing. There's just the and they don't pay the union amount either. They pay under like it's all that generation of kids. And it's not like there's new kids discovering Sabrina, the teenage witch or slit your shorts or things like that, right? Like you were at a show on Nickelodeon for a long time. Is that still in syndication? Are they playing it anywhere? Do people still discover it? I don't think so. It comes up. But no, it doesn't run. This stuff is very, very dated. And it's easy for them to just make more of that relate to the kids. Now.

Yeah, it's kind of like a talk show or a radio show in that way where it's like, well, I'll just make new episodes. Doesn't matter. But with the kids like changes so frequently. But that being said, I never really watched Salute Your Shorts, but I know exactly who he is. Yeah, he was famous. So they were making money off him. Definitely.

For sure. So he explains why this is a bad idea for him to get a job in order to afford his rent maybe you meant get a job from home okay we'll go there I don't have any skills jokes on you idiots I don't have any talents you dumb fuck yeah no one paid to do anything That's great. It's hilarious. But to your point Adam. He's just very honest with everything I mean people make fun of me cuz yeah, I'm drooling out of my face. I can't talk. I have no money I was so hoping to not like him

I even chatted into Tookie soup when he was covering him and was like, this asshole has no credits. Who does he think he is? I just thought it'd be so funny if I didn't relate to him in any way and I thought he had no business coming into the Dabbleverse and who the fuck does he think he is and John's a bigger star than he'll ever be. But I can't do it. I can't do it, he's too likable.

He's too. Could've been a Nickelodeon war. Yeah, I wanted it. We'll have to attack Melissa Joan Hart next. Yes, I'm on it. Done. So this is the last clip I have on here. This is how we're going to fix his problems. But I just wanted to say a quick blessing out loud

to each and every one of you for supporting me, sending me money, Super Chat, PayPal, Venmo, helping me through. I don't know how to repay you But I fucking love you He's a sweet guy right Yeah, slow. He's slow speaking of slow guys. Look at Cardiff is here. Hey, tough Cardiff what

Something was said Good how are you? buddy? Good, how are you? Hello. Good. So, so your thought on this is we should leave Michael Ray Bauer alone or just donate to his show? Is that your thought on this Adam Bush? No, I want to keep covering it. I want to make fun of him.

I'm sure something's going to happen. He just mentioned religion. That's we're getting there. We're getting there. So let's keep covering him. Something's going to happen. Let's see. Especially it it was interesting to see Patrick ripping into him and KB wanting to give him money

and have him over right now. They both had really intense reactions to him. And he did a long rant about why KB has made it because he made a pilot. And it was so sweet. But it's worth exploring and getting into, because he's going to get deeper and more involved in this thing.

In the devil verse? Yeah, I forgot Kevin Brennan was watching. But you can't fucking find it. These assholes hide all their contents. You'll never know what happened if you weren't watching live. It's how you know they're proud of their work. Make sure you hide it right away. But yeah, apparently Kevin was donating to him, right? He was so happy that he had a a new fan because he said nice things about him, so we have to send him money like a stripper It was like hmm. That's their world

Donkey Lips be who brings John back to the developers Who there's a new could they team up here? They should they are exact opposites. It's so great So so great together. Yes, we in with john. The odd couple like the odd couple then you'll love the awesome. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Frenchy Hannah. Oh, we're back in Vegas again. Frenchy Hanna is also a person who moved from LA to Vegas. And this is a very confused individual, has a very hard time recording her show.

Does all the editing herself, talks about it, proud of it. Has pro equipment, talks about that, proud of it. Pro equipment talks about that, proud of it. So this is a person who is doing it all as the equipment, as the host, and just did a recent show that started just like this. ["Frenchy Hata"] All right, here she comes. Frenchy Hannah.

Oh, Frenchy, what? We're not really, can you speak up? We're not really hearing what you're, so this goes on, her mic is not on. It goes on for eight minutes. Her microphone is not on and she is just chatting away. And it's one of these things, you gotta check this. If you're not wearing headphones, you gotta check that sort of thing

before you start doing a podcast. But, correct me if I'm wrong, Producer Chris, this is not a live stream. Oh my God. This is recorded and then put up on the channel. And she claims she edits these, and she does, I see the editing. Right.

So why was this left in here? That's a very good question and begs other questions when all of a sudden she knows what to do about it Yeah, and yet well still the video goes out with the eight minutes of silence except for a very very soft music bed there Right and by the way the headphones are laying on The chair next to her yeah, she's declared She's no longer having guests on the show because everyone's too jealous of her. But she still has the camera set up for a guest to be on the show.

And she's just all the way on the right of it. So this is eight minutes or so, and she finally gets up to fix this, which she never addresses it. She fixes it, sits back down and never says oh shit sorry about that guys couldn't even hear me or anything maybe she does a deaf segment at the top of the show oh maybe she's speaking in Braille yes all right so that's by the way she could kick my ass yes she is built man okay big oh come here oh who we meeting guys this is my baby Oh

Who we meeting guys this is my Right here, this is Jazzy Jazzy Right here. No what she says. This is my baby right here this French Bulldog is literally wearing a diaper. Yeah Frilly diaper that's correct azzy right here you guys okay so we're meeting uh the new co-host of the show that's his doggy on opie radio have i seen just a charismatic co-host i'm excited about this

why is the dog in a diaper? Why would you think? Is it because she doesn't walk it? Or it doesn't go out at all? I mean that'd be my guess. Why else would you put a diaper on a dog? Could be. Could be on the rag. Some people do. I've seen people do it.

I've seen people put a diaper on their dog. Alright. They don't have them spayed or neutered or spayed right be spayed in this case. I would Should bleed it from your balls Not the point. The point is it's probably not lost on you that Frenchie has a Frenchie This is jazzy right here you guys Say hi to everybody say hi to the world say hi to the world this video has 24 views yeah five of them were mine I put out a couple myself and

that was six days ago that this drop so okay the world yes you guys this is jazzy right here my Frenchie baby yes it Yes. It's my girl right here Frenchie Frenchie right here and a Frenchie right here Frenchie Frenchie. Yes Now producer Chris and I both pulled clips from this Around the same time so we didn't see each other's what we're looking at but I saw what yours were called I know you have this one as well yes yes baby yes yes yes yes yes yes she's an affection is she likes to be that close to you. She's an affectionist.

I am too. I believe that's a style of art. The affectionist period. I don't think that's a word. I love when people talk about how happy their dog is and how much they love being there while the dog is like frozen in fear. Yeah, it's snorting. It's like holding on for dear life.

Yeah. I like how she's talking. Go ahead. No, I like how she's just go ahead. No you go Well, just how she summed up all her thoughts by going. Yes. Yes. Yes. So anyways, yes In conclusion Do you think this is actually her like if you went out to dinner with her This would be how she is or she like is this the act like is this what she thinks she should be presenting ask Christian Blatt that question because he has the behind the scenes footage of her wishing us a

happy 600th episode she's brain-dead has been ready to vetoed but we get a rare glimpse into the inner dialogue of Frenchie Because this is now we're getting into the point of this episode Do you think the accident happened on her journey to Vegas like she's like I am done with all the LA bullshit I am going to move on to a better life. She's talking she's talking to her agent I don't care what they're offering. I'm done with show business. I can't take it anymore I'm gonna start a new life in Vegas. I'll show all of you

Hope that that'd be tragic. I know when making us fun if that were the case Let's get into it like for me Like I step back. Like I tell myself like, hey, don't do that. You know that's not what you,

I always remind myself, that's not you. That's not who you are. Don't do that. You know that's not you. That's not who you are. Don't do that. You know that's not you. So why would you go do that? You know that's not gonna look right on you. So don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't step in front of that bus again. Some inner dialogue. It's going on. But when does she have these conversations with herself is the question. I always remind myself at any given moment. It doesn't matter if I'm going out at the day. I always tell myself, don't do anything that you're not supposed to do. You are supposed to walk your dog. Just so you know.

You can also go outside for that. Yeah, you are actually supposed to do that. The dog walks you outside too. This is so funny because, so Frenchie, this whole point of this is like, be yourself, don't be a follower, don't give into peer pressure, it's the whole message. Frenchie's trying to get out there.

But sometimes that works against you. A lot of times people tell me I'm pretty boring. At times. I can be fun. Can you? But people tell me, oh, you're boring. I love that. No one has ever heard a genuinely fun person say,

I can be fun. It can be fun, but you know, people tell me I'm boring, but what do they know? You know, how fun I am. Do you have anything else you want to play from the clips you pulled? Dude, we pulled almost exactly the same ones? You have the wrap up on enough. That's important or not. It's not okay goes on too long. All right. Yeah, let's keep it moving

Let's keep it moving says producer Chris. That's how you produce around here and There is something that I have to talk to you guys about Because it's rare that something happens on the Howard Stern show that I'm interested in because he's so boring, but it did happen this week. Triumph, the insult comic dog, Robert Smygle, was a recent guest on the Howard Stern show. I think it was last week. And so what Howard does is he likes to read the emails that come in and the feedback about the week prior and so he's talking about that. Listeners loved hearing Triumph the

insult comedy dog visit our office and roast my staff. So I was really excited because Triumph was so great when he was here and then we put out the video I saw it on on our app and I saw it on YouTube where Triumph was running around roasting everyone. Okay, and my buddy Jay, the light guy in the ice topes, actually sent me this to say, hey, you should check out this video. And I thought it was cool.

I didn't think Triumph was at its best. Triumph's good, I didn't think it was at its best. But I thought it was cool to see like behind the scenes of the Howard Stern Show. So you can see all the guys you hear about or hear on air. I was following the scent of poorly wiped assholes and this is where it led me. This is incredible.

Everywhere you look, there's photos of Howard. Saddam Hussein had less photos of himself. Hey, I wonder if the staff is supposed to avoid direct eye contact with the photos of Howard too., I wonder if the staff is supposed to avoid direct eye contact with the photos of Howard too. I love Gary Delabatte, Howard and Beth's first rescue pet. So let's get intimate, Gary. You never talk about your childhood. Is that because you no longer speak to the man in the big yellow hat? Don't bare your teeth at me, Gary. Oh, sorry, that's just how you look. I read his wonderful bio and so did two other people.

Lot of facts about you I didn't know. You love your records, such as the one he has for most teeth in a single mouth. I'm standing outside the bullpen, where a dozen riders are hard at work, coming up with different words for penis and vagina. It's a veritable who's who of who's gonna be my Uber driver in six months.

It looks like a kill shelter for fat white guys. I'm so proud of Jason Kaplan. You know, Jason used to be morbidly obese, but after years of hard work and dieting, he's now just ugly. Look at that smile. Give me that smile. It's great to see where the old Cleveland Indians mascot landed up. Chief, wahoo!

No, no, he doesn't look like an Indian. See where the old Cleveland Indians mascot landed up. Chief, wahoo! No, no, he doesn't look like an Indian. Seriously, you look like someone had five seconds to quickly draw a Jew. They told me you have a wife and a small child, but now that I've met you, I realize that those are the same person. Look at how tough.

As Mehmet Walker, fan of WATP, I believe, so I'm told. Who is it, Carl? What was he working on there? who is it so I'm told it was on his desk there was that like wave pad What kind of it was like garage band? What was that? Oh that was a cool added pro actually yeah, that is that couple decades ago There's a lot of people in that office, but I know it's a lot and then he goes and talks to Richard and sale, which is cool just to see like those guys. Basements. They sit across from each other. It's gotta be a trip. I can only imagine. All right. So you get a sense of what this is that how we're talking about.

Carl, this video, I follow a lot of Stern staff on Instagram, on Twitter, or not on Twitter, but on Instagram. This was in everybody's Timeline this is everybody's post was like they were pumping out the triumph clips Like finally we have something that happened on the show. That's something yes And this is something that wasn't on the show proper So a little behind-the-scenes thing So Howard's all excited to check out like people must be going nuts for this video. And I go, you know what?

That was so funny. I'm sure the audience loved it. And I went on our YouTube or something, and I go on. Something? And I said, I gotta read the, I never read the comments about our show, but people had to love Triumph.

So I go onto the comments, and the first comment I read is, finally something funny on the Howard Stern show. And I went and really stuck with me. I was like, fuck this. I never read the comments for that read. What do you mean fine? You mean I haven't done anything funny in that. I start arguing with the comments. All right, maybe I'm not funny, but I had to have done by accident something funny. So Howard's reading the comments, which is not a smart move and Zack who actually wrote this into me told me about this found that comment as well. There it is Finally something funny uncertain has a

239 likes on that comment Okay, so Bear that in mind as we find out how Howard decided to deal with this, trying to get some advice from another buddy of his who hosts the show. So I was like all miffed about it. And then when I went to that wedding in Mexico,

I saw Jimmy, Jimmy Kimmel. And I said, Jimmy, I tell him the story. I went, I said, because he was telling me, oh, well, triumph was so great. And I go, yeah. I said, I read the comments. The first comment is Howard finally did something funny. Jimmy goes, fuck you.

You can delete those guys. I go, because the team here told me on social media, I would turn off all comments, right? But everyone said to me on social media, if you turn off all comments, people do not like it. They do not. They want to read the comments underneath. I go, but I don't want to read them. It doesn't make me happy to hear that I finally did something funny or finally something funny happened

and it didn't even really involve me. I want to read that. And I don't want my fans reading that because maybe I'm duping some people into thinking I'm funny I don't want this getting out that I've lost my fastball. I don't want them. We're talking about that on the internet Don't go to Jimmy Kimmel about that mean tweets was one of the best segments ever. Yeah, good point These people who leave comments would never ever believe for a second that the people they're commenting on are more obsessed with that comment than the commenter is about the show. Like that guy made what he thought was and I'm sure is the nicest comment on that thread, one of the more popular ones, and moved on with his day. It's been a week and Howard's having a summit with Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon and Conan O'Brien to discuss the next move for him to emotionally get over the impact of this tweet or this post.

That is insanity. And Hellraiser69 who left this comment that became a whole segment of the third show is here in our chat. That was a happy accident. He says, well done. Hellraiser 69. Amazing. Good work. Um do you think that's the first feedback or constructive criticism Howard's received in a while? Yes, I think he's surrounded by yes, man. And the fact that he finally went, oh, let's see what the people are saying. What? What?

We know all the comments used to be off right for all of his stuff, which is a sign of fear and weakness. Correct. When did that switch? Was it just with this clip? Or no, it's been going on for a while. I think that Howard, they just don't tell Howard what's going on, right? Or they might lie to him because I have a clip coming up that tells me that maybe the staff is sugarcoating I'm like, oh, yeah, everyone's saying it's great because he always goes to the emails and Fred I think is the one who curates the emails and it's amazing every right you mispronounce rights. Oh, okay

every emailer loves everything that they do it's all just very positive talk on here and Listen, I don't do that. Listen to our voicemail segment coming up in a little bit. Oh, boy. The fact that Howard can't realize that that was a compliment and you should just take it for what it is and build off of it. It is a good thing. It's not a compliment. Do more of it. It reminds me, I used to complain about this when people would comment on each individual episode of WTP and our subreddit And I hate when people like this was the funniest episode in a long time like what the fuck you like it's a backhanded

Cough of that what do you say? Finally something funny got stirred, but it's on them. It's for their taste of course it really is Alright, so what's the solution to this? Does Jimmy know what to do? So I gotta go to Mif. So Jimmy says to me, you can leave the comments on, but you can also delete the assholes. You can block them.

Oh, that's a whole, you're now in business with them. That's what I said to Jimmy. And Jimmy goes, it is no big deal everyone on the staff can do it. Delete the assholes. He says even on his own media Jimmy deletes Jimmy sees a comment he deletes it. Nothing but pleasant statements about it. Yes! Why should I why am I the only tool out there and I'm listening to people tell, you have to have the negative comments. Fuck you. I don't know that Jimmy wants this getting out. Jimmy's going around deleting comments on social media that are unfavorable to him. I bet this is a private conversation.

How many comments have they left? Sorry. Yeah. And he's also talking about he's on a bigger show with a bigger audience and more engagement. Howard doesn't know what he's saying. He doesn't realize what he sounds like. Howard, you used to be the comment. Yes, you used to be the negative comment on Hollywood. Now you're Hollywood and you're silencing the negative comments. It wasn't even that bad. So no it really was. I mean he should have just accepted it. It was, I don't know if you caught when Triumph said Gary Delabatte, Howard and best first rescue pet. It's funny. It's the first funny thing I've heard in there in a while. You know, just give us more of that. I'm sorry you weren't involved Howard. You heard the intro to what he said. He was like

as Triumph roasts our staff and something or something It was such an AI script written intro and then he took it from there and started riffing off of it But this is really no different than what we just watched Jamie Kennedy do from his bunker below Las Vegas You know, it's paranoid delusional stuff No matter how much money you have or how much success you have. Some people, the second the comment turns to them, everything's different and it's a whole other world. Yeah, isn't it funny that Donkey Lips is handling this the best out of all of them so far? It makes the most sense. It's like an apocalypse now and people get killed but it's the guy

on acid, the fool, right, who makes it through because he's just, wow, Donkey Lips is the wise man for all of us who's handling this better than all the people who have the success he would dream of. And now that Howard's brought up that he read a comment, this opens up the floodgates, and Robin goes, I read comments, too. And you said something,

and I laughed at it or agreed with it And the comment was Robin collecting her paycheck today. Yeah. Yeah, like I didn't say anything but like you fake laughed Right So now it turns out Rob is getting butthurt by this shit as well But she wasn't gonna bring it up until Howard did so now they're both talking about how they get easily offended by comments bad move To do on your show. I think more comments are gonna come in now that there's a possibility. They're gonna get read by Howard or Robin So Howard decides new rule I now I'm pissed at the person who told me that we have to allow these comments. No new rule

That we have to allow these comments no new rule Instead of these guys who work for me busy with their own accounts everyone go on there and delete any asshole Only yeah, I want here's what I want I want North Korea level censorship on my comments and when I say North Korea level I'm talking about you ever see anything other than praise for Kim Jong-un. No, okay Sounds like a funny line Problem is he is being serious. Oh, yeah about this You know the old days if you didn't like to show you just didn't listen now people listen, but they could say I right I suck fuck you have to

I Am being serious Who do I talk to around here to give everyone the ability and don't tell don't give me any bullshit Well, they might delete someone and I don't care if there's any question delete delete delete delete I am funny. So that's a message going out to everyone in the back office right there We got to get on it. I mean this reminds me of the pelican brief We got to get on it. I mean this reminds me of the pelican brief where Howard came on the stage in front of his entire staff and said start creating sock accounts and

telling Brad Pitt that he should come on the Howard Stern show From F the FCC to North Korea's got the right idea He really has got a 180 in every aspect of his broadcast. The problem is all the things he said during the Pelican brief worked. He got Lady Gaga. Yep. No, that's true. It happened. Yeah. What's the book? Getting shit done? Getting things done. They got things done. They got it what he wanted. Yeah, knows what she's doing apparently. And got the you know, re up it all happened. Yeah, it It's it's really um It's really a sad state of affairs to think that um He uh

He's I don't know how to say this right come back to me. Okay, give it some thought stinks Let me go get it for a second. Give it some thought. He stinks Find a way you don't have to always be eloquent that ambush It's worth it. It's worth the people at the Howard Stern So I just want to point that I I know a lot of people listen and they're great people But you can tell this really bothered Howard this one comment it stuck with him big time. Yeah, I'm like wow I'm you know what I'm gonna go on there and read the positive comments about triumph the insult, Doug.

Finally something funny on how, and what an insult. I had nothing to do with that. He keeps repeating it over and over again, and you know he's neurotic, and so this is going on in his brain, and this is another example, evidence therapy is not working for him. The fact that he's letting someone that bother him that much. You would think a therapist would be like, Howard,

you've made a billion dollars on the radio. You have three mansions, a beautiful wife, more Cassie know what to do with who gives a shit to the guy said it's the funniest thing in a while how could that possibly bother you in any way hell raiser 69 what do you have to save yourself hell raiser 69 boy vae is right if someone wanted to make a viral moment, and it's impossible because he's built his life in a way that this is not an option,

it'll never happen, but if someone could stuttering John Howard's turn and just get him coming into somewhere and ask him one of those classic questions that he used to ask other people and watch how he turns red and it gets full of rage and can't respond and hopefully has one of those Jerry Seinfeld

or Alec Baldwin moments where you just see, why was it okay for you to do this to people but not okay for people to do to you? This is where he needs his dad's voice, stop being stupid, you moron. Yes. Like he needs somebody yelling at him. Howard, what'd you do with your sense of humor?

What sense of humor? I mean, this is the stuff he criticizes in politicians, that they're busy worrying about image and these things and their own ego and not the quality of the work they're doing. Well, fortunately, he's got a good friend in Jimmy Kimmel who's taught him the right way to deal with this. I see these other people, they always go,

how do they have such positive comments? Oh, the people on this deal with this. I see these other people, they always go, how do they have such positive comments? Oh, the people on this show delete. That's what Jimmy gave me the secret. What's Fred doing all day that he can't delete some comments? Give him something to do. I bet he really does feel that way too. He's just like, yeah, why isn't Fred over there helping me out?

So I was going through the comments. Now you saw the one that he's talking about 239 likes typically these are organized based on popularity but all of the comments that I'm seeing on here now have fewer likes are showing up higher and are all positive about what a great video this was well you can change other sorted to on the top all right let's let's see by sort by look at it so it's kind of interesting it seems like maybe something's gone into effect over there where they're already trying to do this up can you hit ctrl F and search for hellraiser? Oh? 16 replies to a lot of weight like to weigh down the page though. Holy shit. I was at the bottom

So I'll give it a like good stuff Appreciate you All right, so this is one more clip And this is where I think the staff is trying to protect Howard and just give him the positive things that are happening. In fact, comedian Bobby Moynihan commented on our Instagram post with an applause emoji. That's a high compliment. Saturday Night Live's Bobby Moynihan. So Bobby Moynihan gave him a thumbs up or an applause emoji and they're like, Howard,

yeah, I know that Hellraiser guy's a jerk, but look at this on Instagram. Look at this. See? You can be in a good mood today, right? Bobby Moynihan. That's a good thing, Howard. Once again, some comedian just went like emoji.

And now they're bringing it to the king. It's this big deal, and it's getting all this attention. Howard, if you cared about your show just a little bit, as much as you care about what people have to say about it, you can't stop their feelings. It's kind of sad that he can only point out one comedian that's given a thumbs up on his video. No shit.

I haven't seen Bobby Moynihan in anything in a while either, so I don't know what he's up to. But every comedian would be following Howard Stern back in the day at least. Of course. He was essential. He wanted to get on Howard Stern. Now, comedians don't even give a shit.

Just the fact that he's bringing up comments and stuff, he's asking for a world of hurt. It shows you what his staff is going through, because anything that goes wrong is his staff's fault. Like, some hellraiser 69 made a comment on a message board and it's his staff's fault and somebody's getting fired. Anything that gives him a feeling means the staff has got to be rearranged and they're

fucking up. So yeah, they're protecting him and they did a bad job of protecting him here. It's hard to believe knowing what incredible taste Howard has and how many people he's discovered that he would find this show funny. Like that he would genuinely be like, oh, knock at the door. Who's it gonna be? Yeah, I know. Another bad impression of someone. I just I love the fact that Fred Norris is gonna be up Sunday night at 9 30 p.m. Deleting comments for his Monday morning shift just going fucking hell

racer just finished writing Lady Gaga he just finished asking her to get on the show now he's got to go create another account alright speaking to guys who aren't dealing with Cartiff, you gonna hang with us? I'll be quiet. Okay. Cartiff is here in protest. Opie's doing an interesting thing on his YouTube channel lately that I've been picking up on. I think I picked up on this because I was watching

Patrick Melton talk about how Chad does a thing with his YouTube channel. Where every video he puts up, he just makes members only. And so Opie, you can see he's got a few videos, and then it's like members only on a lot of these videos. And one of the reasons for doing that is that it makes it so you can't see the view count. Because the view count on a lot of these videos

is pretty embarrassing unless it's about Anthony or Jim or something. But then I discovered something else I guess I should have known about. So if you go to OP's live stuff, I mean everything is members only. So he does these streams and if you don't watch it that day it's gone, right? But then you go to check out OP Unleashed NYC, the YouTube channel that everyone's talking about And I thought this was be him walking around Manhattan

With his zoom recorder and cell phone out, but now look what's going on all of his live stuff is living here and still available So this is like a strategy to build up this channel. It's just his podcast now It's all the same content as his other channel He could be unleashed in his house. I don't think that's true. I'm gonna go and disagree with you on that. Yeah, but she calls this channel has less subscribers. So that makes sense. Nope. Just the opposite. Just the opposite. Carry the three. All right. So Opie had Steve

Grillo has been making the rounds. He was on Anthony's radio show Sunday night and he's at Gebhards with Opie. Of course, he's promoting his new book where it's about being an intern on the Howard Stern show in the 90s. He knew Buck. Just came out. But anyway, so Opie's got a great question for him about Howard Stern's paranoia since Grillo was behind the scenes there. Did you talk about Howard's paranoia? Because I got a Howard paranoia story.

We just got into it. He just, he was- Do you know about the snipers? No was, you know, about the snipers. No, I don't know about the snipers. And so, all right. So, oh, because he's telling me about his paranoia, and then cuts him off. He goes, you know, about the snipers, and I hope he wants to go into his story about Howard's paranoia. So

it's isn't really an interview with grill. Also, Mike horribly, I apologize for the audio. It is one of this. They're holding SM, they're holding microphones. Why can't we hear them at all? It sounds like a basement. What's going on there? Well, part of the problem is the, uh, well, it is a basement as the SM 58s are built for stage performances with a lot of loud music behind you. It really only picks up a very small range in front of the microphone. It's built that way specifically so that you can have a drummer behind you

and it doesn't pick it up in feedback. It's called an omnidirectional. Omnidirectional microphone. It's uni and omni, yeah. Correct. And so these should not be used for broadcasting. It's why broadcasters, except for Ray DeVito, it doesn't use a microphone like this.

It's not the right microphone to use for it so Opie wants to talk about his story With how Howard Stern is permanent and by the way, I'll be put this video out himself. It is called sniper paranoia exposed With two exclamation points. So this is like some clickbait shit All right sniper paranoia exposed. Remember this is like some clickbait shit. All right, sniper paranoia exposed. Remember, this is gonna get exposed. But first, Grillo is going to talk about

well, actually, what his paranoia was, was being out in public. Because Howard's very recognizable, very tall, was gonna get wrecked. If he's walking around in Manhattan, people are gonna mob him. Hope he makes this about him. He's got a story. Paranoia like about walking in the streets. I don't blame him for that. He was beyond famous.

He's also 6'5 and he's bigger than everybody else. I remember when we were doing pretty well for ourselves and I absolutely would get recognized a lot. Yeah. But I realized that he was on another fucking planet. I happened to be in Central Park on a bike or something and he was on another fucking planet. I was, I happened to be in such a park on a bike or something and he was walking home through the park. I forgot who he was with, but it might have been Ralph,

actually, for real. It was unbelievable how much he got recognized. Like it was, it was, cause he's so tall and, and you know, he was very, very big. Opie's story, after Grillo goes, oh yeah, if he walks around, he gets recognized, he's very tall and Opie story after Grillo goes. Oh, yeah, if he walks around he gets recognized. He's very tall and Recognizable. Oh, because oh, I'll do you one better. I once saw him and he was very tall and was recognized a lot So it wasn't about like working in the same building having the same profession competing just another guy who lives in Manhattan who saw Sunday afternoon just yeah. Hey, I got a story for that. I

saw Howard and people recognize him. Yeah. Okay. That's what I was just okay. Cool. Thanks. Thanks for adding that. Why is his guest behind him? So he has to put his back to the camera to ask them questions. We can't see him. We can't hear him. What is the here's a better question. Why is this guest sitting on a keg? They don't even bring stools and shit. Like there are parts of the show, because you see all those chuckle fucks in the background there? He brings each of these people in and multiple people at a time, and they're sharing microphones, they're sitting on kegs and shit. But again, this is what Opie does because he doesn't want to be accused of trying to put effort into a real show and failing at it

When I was young and learning how to perform on stage when I was insecure about what I was singing I would back away from the mic, right? It's the natural instinct You don't want people to hear you a sound guy will eventually come up to you If you keep doing that and say you have to sing into the mic. Yeah, you have to always sing into the mic I know you think it sounds better when the bad parts are far away. It just makes everything sound bad. It will sound better if you hit a wrong note while up to the mic, you have to hit the mic. He's still doing this. I'm insecure about hitting a wrong note. So

I'll just make it so that you can't hear me. And I'm insecure about how I look. So I'll just make it that you can't see me. And you're spending all of this time and energy on editing these to look like a kids TikTok. Every single one of your thumbnails looks exactly the same. How would I know to click on one and not the other? They're all just you blurry with this background and a lot of tiny words another Analogy that's actually similar to what we're seeing here with Opie the first bass player in the isotopes our first shows He did no confidence in his playing at all. He would

Not face the audience. He would face his amp with his back to the audience playing and it's just like yeah We're trying to perform for these people. So if you could just kind of look at them, they can look at you. It'd be very helpful. But yeah, Opie's like got his back turned because of how stupid the setup is. It's all insecurity. Just put the mic up to your mouth and say whatever bullshit you have. So Grillo is telling this story about when a time that he was walking with Howard in Manhattan and how Howard handled that. And this gets open to do a Howard impression. And I have some thoughts

on this impression. He was like, yo, it's gonna take me like an hour to get there. So then Sony was kind of like around the block. And I just remember we were walking around the block and he's just like, woo, woo, block and he's just like, and I was like, I was like, I was like, Opie started doing the impression that Anthony does. I can't do a Howard started pressure to save my life, but Anthony was who the Oh, Robin. Yeah, who Robin that's the thing. Yeah, he always does that bit. And so Opie and this is what Anthony was talking about in the show on Saturday, we recorded with him,

is that Opie doesn't have his own personality. He just steals from everyone he's ever talked to. And it's like he does Ron Bennington, and then he does Anthony Kubia, and he does his Bill Burr thing. It's like there isn't an Opie in there to be found. It's just everyone else. It's one thing to say that my old partner is, you know, that we worked together for all these years, you know, things I've said are in his head and he actually thinks he said them first. That's one accusation. This is, he was doing it while the guy was saying it. He was in the middle of doing the impression. And he had to interrupt him to do the same impression but louder and more like a dog. Now remember, this video is called, it's on Opie's channel, it's called Sniper Paranoia Exposed. So Opie's gonna tell the story here, because Grilla didn't know anything about it, about the paranoia with the sniper.

But we actually sat in Howard Stern's studio in his fucking chair. That chair I pushed around every goddamn day. And this was told to me, I don't know how true it is, there was a giant window that Howard had covered for most of his time at K-Rock because he was scared of snipers. I know there was no, there were windows in this,

around the street. Do you remember a giant window? Well, it was covered. Yeah, it was covered and after he left, after he has no idea what he was missing, by the way, because that window led to an apartment where girls would shower in the morning and get to see girls shower. Yeah, he was so paranoid.

It was told to me he was so paranoid of snipers that they covered the window because you could see right into that window. I don't remember specifically that story. I don't know how true it is. I wouldn't doubt it. But someone at K-Rock, one of the old times that was still there told me that. And that's how his video ends. That's not what I did. So remember, we're supposed to see how it was exposed.

And it ends with, yeah, I'm not sure if that's true, because I don't know either. Someone just told me that. Also, I want to talk about this thing where they were watching girls shower in the morning. I don't know. I don't live in a high-rise, but that seems like a terrible design. I don't see many showers that have an outdoor window as one of the walls of the shower. It seems like a really bad idea to do that. I don't believe that is my point. You've never lived in the Big Apple, Carl.

That's true. You know it's bullshit because he said girls. Maybe there was one apartment where they didn't close the blind. Okay, it wasn't multiple women coming in and out of this. It's not Porky's. Yeah, what is he talking about? It's not Revenge of the Nerds when they set up cameras inside. Yeah. Isn't it?

In the late 80s and the 90s, when you went after the religious right, you would have security. Anybody that was going after religion or abortion or certain things in aggressive ways, you had to have security. And I bet the company wanted there to be security so that they didn't hold responsibility for anything happen to Howard. It's paranoid stuff, but it's not crazy. It was he was the center of this. And the kind of symbol of everything that was

wrong in America for a long time. So I'm sure there were threats and whether they were real and not. He's paranoid enough to just do something about it. I don't understand what the joke is. Like what he's going for. But back to the naked showering woman, wasn't that right? Steinfeld? No, is that a oh my god from a son Seinfeld? I think friends too. Okay. I think it was a book. Maybe that's where he got it from. Yeah, no, that's a good point, Adam. Howard Stern was hated by a very powerful people, a large group of them too. So it wouldn't be crazy to be like,

hey, can I not sit next to an exposed window while doing a morning show that everyone knows I'm on by a very powerful people, a large group of them too. So it wouldn't be crazy to be like, hey, can I not sit next to an exposed window while I'm doing my morning show that everyone knows I'm on from six to 11? At the one place they know where they can find me in the one, you know, where I am every day. Yeah, I went to opiradio.com. I haven't been here in a while.

I wanted to see what it was doing. Right on the homepage, autographed artwork. I forgot about this. Personalized autographed artwork signed and sent by Opie himself. Original photograph taken by Opie. Once orders received, Opie will sign and mail out signed photo.

Choose personalized message to check out. And the example, he has two different photos that he took. One of a sunset on the beach, one of like it looks like a farmhouse. And he wrote on there you rock creamy butters thanks for listening opi so did you know that you could order a signed opi they're calling it artwork i would call it photography but what's your po box again carl yes please guys i'm going to need this on the wall behind me over here next to David E Roth and Bruce Springsteen

Now if opi was taking requests on what to photograph that would be cool like a watch McCall it rapper or But a Puerto Rican on the toilet Someone's cleaning it up now. I saw this navigation. It says donate to opi radio. It's like what he's asking for donations thankfully This link is oh Now it goes to the store. No, it's broken. Okay, it's broken Thank God Carl. I hate to disappoint you I don't know if you notice the warning there, but COVID-19 update fulfillment times are 15 days plus shipping times now

Christ no one such this website five years Love you miss ya is another Navigation on here, so he's got Kyle Ruiz Videos are unavailable videos private videos private might want to take a look at that Vic And Patrice O'Neill Love you miss you. Okay, very good What about the shop? Hope's all about the merchandise. Let's see if we can purchase from him

So we got the autographed artwork first and foremost. Yeah but These mugs and t-shirts that just say cheers Why would I care I have so much going on This is my favorite shirt. I don't listen to Joe Rogan for medical advice good stuff He's got him as like a South Park character or something or Funko pop. Yeah Funko pop in his cool shades He's got the Vic Henley famous quote. I know I know You know Vic Henley would say I know I know and everyone would like double over laughter

His getter done, right? I have no idea You dead you dead man hashtag Ru Weezing And then he's got some other stupid shit 0% vegetarian he's got Ru Weezing And then he's got some other stupid shit 0% vegetarian he's got Rueezing on a Mug here wait 0% vegetarian because his audience is all Aggressive meat eaters and like like what is that? Louise car Louise. Yeah. Yeah, he was used to say that

like this meat What is that? That's a Carl Ruiz. Carl Ruiz. Yeah, yeah, he used to say that. Liked his meat. Okay. Hope he's got a lot of Carl Ruiz merch. Do you want a deeper explanation than that, Adam? No, I just don't know who his audience is. Like, he thinks like it's meat eaters. That's who's gonna, I'm trying to figure out who's gonna wear this and who's gonna buy it. I just found a shirt that I would wear. What's that? A dog trying to figure out who's gonna wear this and who's gonna?

I don't think he's manufactured a thousand of each of these I think they just put up the This is great hold on hold on is one of the shirts, because he would ruin segments by ending them. And he thinks someone's going to see someone wearing that and point their finger and be like, I'm with you, Opie. That's right. And then the famous boo-tee. So that's Opie holding on to his Zoom recorder with Carl Ruiz. Like they used to go around and just record podcasts and Carl be like, boo. So that's a classic bit right there.

Pretty good stuff. You guys want to check out some more videos that OP puts up on his channel to show you how good his show is. These are the ones that he's curating himself and saying, if you ever want to check out my show, here's why. Here's some of the best stuff. This one is called the wildest smoking story you'll ever hear. Right? This is the wildest one you'll ever hear. I guess you've won for a while, but then she divorced my uncle and then she wasn't my aunt anymore. She just said, you know, I'm done with this family. And I was thinking to myself, but, but I like you. Where are you going? I'm splitting. I'll never see you again. Goodbye. Goodbye. Her father had one of the holes.

What are those holes in it? You know that where they scare the hell out of you on the TV. How about you don't put those commercials on TV. We get it. The people that still smoke, they get it. You're not going to, you're not going to turn them. Her father at the time had one of these holes where he had a, he had all the hole and then talk and then go, and then he would talk some more. How are you kids doing? I'm scared, mister.

Why are you scared? It's okay. I can still function this way. Could you grab me by bar morals? And I'm like, what? The bar morals are on the kitchen counter. Can you go get them? What? So he's the one who puts the text on the screen like you were saying Adam like a tik-tok video and of course It's just AI doing it. So it's saying bar barrels when they saying Marlboro's which is an important element of this that the guy Who's got the trachea thing is asking for a cigarettes. This is what makes it wild can't fix it No, no, there's no way to fix that. Just let it go. Oh

This is what makes it wild. Can't fix it. No, no, there's no way to fix that. Just let it go. Oh my god, this guy, it was like a horror show. This is the god's honest truth. And then, then he would light up and he would smoke through the goddamn hole. I never saw anything like it in my life. It was crazy. Keep telling us that. Maybe it'll make it true. What a clip. That's the wildest smoking story I've ever I was that have you ever heard of anything like that before except for all the time forever. It's pretty wild. Pretty wild stuff. This is why I love the dabble verse because it was wild in one way.

Like it wasn't wild, but it was clearly traumatic. Like, whatever you rushed through in the beginning there, Opie, about people abandoning you and you just not dealing with it in any way, I hate to get all psychoanalytical, but it's like this guy just said a lot of really awful, horrible stuff in a kids' sing-songy voice and you could just... And then my aunt, she left because she didn't like my family and I liked her. Okay, Opie, we're glad you came into the office, but we want to ask you why you're saying all this in that voice Can we try it again? You know let's connect to it Greg the adult explain exactly right if you were here right now

Next to him you know yeah You see her like looking at him and then looking at the therapist and just not saying a word Do you like serious? Yeah? One more clip again, this is a video that Opie put up himself this is the Opie unleashed NYC channel and So he's curating this content to promote his show. This is called words women hate now if you're pulling clips from Words women hate. Now, if you're pulling clips from WATP,

or let's say WATS, because we started doing that now, my buddy Casey Day's helping us out, we're putting out some clips. Mike and I are talking about Woke Dead, or King Cobra or something, and we have the clips out there. It's a specific segment, we're on topic, we're talking about a specific thing,

and it'll last a certain amount of time. Opie's trying to recreate this guy, a lot of people do, it's not just certain amount of time Opi's trying to recreate this guy a lot of people does not just me obviously. I'll be trying to recreate this So he's like, alright, what's the interesting part of this hour-long stream that I did? Here it is Can you say moist again? Yeah, I could say moist Women hate the word. Well, you know what word they hate? Moist. Women hate the word. Well, you know what word they hate? The atom bomb. You know, as soon as you use the C word on a lady, you gotta pack your things. It's over John.

You can't say the C word and they go, Hey, so you want to go get some sushi? Moist is another one they hate. Oh boy, Do they hate the word moist? Oh my god moist moist moist moist moist Can you say that was it that was the entire video? 32 seconds that's a big topic you had of the show Hey, can you cut up that part when I was talking about things that women don't like like the word moist of the seaward? Sure, I'll be I'll get right out of that. We'll make a clip for your channel

He doesn't realize that nobody wants to hear him talk about what women really want Yeah, I don't think he's the authority on this One but that was uh that's what he puts out how many views does that have I wonder? 174 in nine days It might be the hashtags because he wrote hashtag wordplay. What's their word play in that? Hashtag comedy podcast hashtag funny moments try to figure out what the c-word is It's Other people of being sexist and

Offensive and this is the stuff that Women don't want to hear from you. No one wants to hear it from you But specifically what would make you an expert on this topic? Like who were you coming in contact with? You're not getting it Adam. It's hilarious. It's a morning radio banter You're right. Do you like candy corn on Halloween? You're right. Do you like candy corn on Halloween? I? Mean it's just the fucking most basic takes ever like you know the girls that like the seaward yeah, yeah

Learn that one. Yeah, I learned it very like black licorice Alright, let's let's get to this game It was fired up today, I love it It It's time for everyone's favorite new game show. Two minutes with Tom. What do you say ladies and gentlemen? Are you ready to find the bomb on two minutes with Tom? Good call. Always ready to be successful. I have a little story. I went ahead and

the other day I was at my local shopping mall I was dressing in one of those big leather chairs that vibrate, just dozing off because you know, my career is really skyrocketing at this point. And this guy comes over, shakes me awake and says, you know what your problem is?

You're an unapproachable dick What did Tom say next here your choices number one I was sleeping dad He turns out I'm an approachable dick Next see you at Mass father O'Malley Turns out I'm an approachable dick. Next. See you at mass, Father O'Malley. Four. I don't think you know what unapproachable means. And lastly, he didn't even offer me one of his Cinnabon samples.

Two minutes with Tom. Okay, Cardiff has done something very smart right here. Where you can tell it's... There's two punch lines that are similar. And so Cardiff came in and he goes, Alright, it's gonna be one of these two, but you're not gonna know which one. I'm gonna say lastly, it's out the window. I think it's one B next or four,

and I'm gonna say it's next see you at mass Father O'Malley What say you Adam Bush? I'm gonna go with four. I'll go with I don't think you know what unapproachable means. Yes. It's one of these obvious jokes very possible What do you think Annie? I'm gonna go with one I was sleeping I was sleeping dad yep yep very good and producer Chris would you write down I went for I don't think you know

what unapproachable means yeah that could be it you and Adam both have that one correct one of the people in the chat saying Nick and Fort Wayne says Chad is cooler than the potato It's harsh stuff on here The one pun says Tom's current bomb is his feud with steel. So it's so bad That's all I want to talk about but it really doesn't get boring pretty quickly All right, I'm seeing some necks a lot of fours. There's a B. There's a one. All right, let's find out where we got You know what your problem is you're an unapproachable dick I don't think you know what unapproachable means

There it is Chris and Adam getting the W's! Feels good. I think there's a little treat in there for you at the end. I believe it. I also don't think you know what irony is. This episode was brought to you by Hackamania.com. Use promo code come to save more on your tickets than any other promo code out there. That's a fact, Jack. Promo code come will save you money. Sit Eugene, sit. Good dog. Listen, the truth is, there is no promo code that can save you more than

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What have we done today? We've done it all I Think it's time to wrap things up. We have some voicemails coming out, maybe some reviews. But first, I want to let Annie, let people know where they can find her. You can go to insanity.com. That's I N S a N N E I T Y dot com. It's got everything that I'm working on and everything that I've worked on in the past. Thank you. Check it out. Very good. That's what you should have on your website. I like that And a Bush you have anything going on you want to talk about just w ATP Wednesday. Very good That's the ones they crowd loves to hear that

They're nuts card Saturday crew don't Yeah, Saturday people don't know what they're talking about. You know what they did. They know what they did Patreon accomplish card of electric find the new Cardiff Electric YouTube channel at Cardiff Elect. Live stream's coming soon. Very good. Well, Cardiff back on YouTube. Did you ever think you'd live to see the day? Just for lives. How long do you think it keeps his channel? Let's see. It's an experiment, especially in the tattle verse. I was going to say Chad is definitely going to report you immediately Soon as you something happened so my youtube channel will reunite rob Saul and Chad Zumach

Yes, agree will join forces to take me down those two idiots Rob came out and said he's getting all these emails He spam emails and get excited for newsletters and stuff So he blamed Chad for doing it and now Chad's getting the call from the collection agency. He's blaming Rob for saying that he owned by Rob specifically signed him up for the local collection agency the area he lives in you can't do that Subscription lives in. You can't do that. I know you have a subscription. Doesn't make any sense. But I often use Rob as an example when I'm trying to explain to people with the double verses and I love explaining how Rob is somebody who is very,

very sensitive about making comments about him having inappropriate relationships with his dog. He will accuse you of being a rapist, murderer whatever he can come up with if you say anything About him having an inappropriate relationship with his dog, but he will not stop broadcasting with the dog on his lap And he won't stop jerking it off either. I mean How if you hate it so much there's just one thing you could do to stop it stop jerking off the dog You won't I just can't get out myself. Did you see Chad calling into a show the other night? Oh, no I didn't oh, no, I think I did see that someone pulled it someone clipped it. Yeah

Rob kept hanging up on him right in the chair. I've come back Yeah, but he kept calling back with the same joke over and over again. I know telling Rob salt to go to Greenland. Oh Yeah over and over that's all he was not possibly be funny or put on an entertaining show so they have to join forces Off themselves and sign them up for newsletters It's any we have any new reviews that have come in recently Yeah, I got one from Yolanda on March 19th. They said Darman really

Please don't it's already been done by so many others and it's never entertaining Try and review shows slash videos that are slightly better than unlistable. So many people bringing attention to this stupid trash, never wanna hear the name Darman again. Is that a five star review I hope? Yes. All right, well good, I appreciate the programming though. We didn't do Darman on our bonus show,

but you should check out the bonus show, patreon.com slash where these podcasts or sign up right here on this YouTube channel, because Blind Mike and I, we did a show talking about Julia Fox's book again, more of that, but then we watched this video, and this guy is like Darman, but way, way worse somehow. His name is Samir Bhavnani,

and the video we watched is called boyfriend has hot girl best friend what he does is shocking so we're gonna want to check out our bonus show or you just Google that and find the video itself and watch on your own it's definitely worth it they smoke through their neck it's wild man you can't believe what's going on Boyfriend exposed They abandoned me That would have been a turn for that video Yes

Alright, let's hit some voicemails There's actually a bunch that came in Including this Gary and San Diego impressionist Hey Carl, it's Gary and San Diego Well, it looks like John's gonna come up to my porch and have his ding dong out and I'm gonna put it in my mouth. Oh, are you sick of that? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I knew it wasn't him because of the phone number that comes out. I cheated otherwise spot-on. Otherwise, it's like Gary. All right

This is what I call a perfect listener. Well, hello Carl and friends it is me the Wednesday and Saturday listener I have a job and can listen to both days weekly every episode and now I enjoy out of bush on both days of the week Also, I get to do a voicemail and less than 45 seconds Who are you if you can't do all these things like me Charlie? Oh fucking nailed it I also like how he didn't come across as smug not at all those by listeners. It's a pilot Not that I heard that by the, I heard the by voice, too All right this card if you might have to respond to this Hey, Carl very excited about hackamania 2 and about the announcement that there will be

Docking it said event now will this be competitive docking or casual? Either way, I'm stoked. In fact, I have recently undergone a reverse circumcision procedure just so I can participate. And I just want to make sure that won't disqualify me. I don't want to be warming up in the batter's box only to have producer Chris rush over with the rule book. Hey, hey there fella. Hold it Let me see that thing

so please advise men docking Card if you know anything about this docking competition that's going on Chuki and I had a meeting about it. I realized neither one of us would be able to dock with each other Mmm, so we we passed on the idea. All right, but you're free to do it on your W ATP whatever you want to do To fill. Yeah, we might do a little bit of that Team queef and beef has been a member for four months says hi Carl last month I asked if you ever played with underwater bosses. You didn't know what that meant

They are a band like yours. Love you. Good night. I'll look into the underwater bosses you didn't know what that meant they are a band like yours love you good night I'll look into the underwater bosses thank you Chris is writing it down right now so we can check it out and I'll be very offended if they suck they're bad like yours he listen you're like prepare yourself Carl thanks for that sounds like this Speaking of bands. I have a request coming in Will you please? Fucking tell bill to get Brent back in Macedon. Mm-hmm the guy you just told Levi's in this entirety last summer and

I need to see Blood Mountain in its entirety and I can't see it if Brent's not in the fucking band Go Carl go. This is all I need from my patreon Fix this please. I think it's I Think it's out of my hands at this point. I don't think I can get Mastin on back together He's gonna leave you our Try I Didn't try to think of anybody business, but I assume Bill probably doesn't have a lot of control over that either at this point So yeah Brent quit Macedon hidden hand media right in the middle of the tour too

But I was excited to see privacy coming back this summer with their new drummer Might want to go check that out baloney factory reached out to me Talked about going to Detroit to see them. Somebody's show is in Detroit. Should we just move to Detroit? Seems that way. Yeah, starting to think that too.

Oh, I should mention too, because Dick talked about this on his show. We are still working on a Boston show. It might happen in June. There's a June 21st date that we're hoping for. So if you're in the northeast New England area, save the date, June 21st. We'll see what happens. All right, the big topic on the show lately has been pineapple and bacon on pizza. It's all anyone wants to talk about. It's all anyone's talking about on the

subreddit. So let's address it. Hey, Carl, just want to let you know, I tried your stupid fucking bacon and pineapple pizza. But not great. But it shouldn't be on the pizza. Also, I was wondering when am I going to get those pictures of Jenny Jingle's juicy? Monty milkers? you said once I sent

the pictures in my balls I would get them and I never did so yeah call me back by the way speaking of that we might have Kyle photographer might have found some more talent oh nice yes and so the other way around last time it was me fighting the talent but this time might be cow photographer. So stay tuned for that that guy called back in with a follow-up Following up on that voicemail. I left at about 1 a.m. Last night My wife overheard me leaving that voicemail and she's pretty upset right now She said there's certain things that she just doesn't find funny and that I shouldn't make light of so just want to set the record straight here Pineapple doesn't belong on pizza. Hey, I see what you did there. I see what you did

Well, if he's curious Opie has a list of what women like and don't like follow that and good point They're like moist Adam hot topic boner guy Though can't at the creep off calm fucking this question guys Can we all turn around if I pay for the streaming can I watch it after the show? Of course you fucking can what possible reason would there be for there to be a fucking streaming version that you couldn't watch afterwards? When's that ever been a thing you fucking idiot? And then I keep my messages to a tight 45 seconds. I bet you don't even like the bills do you?

Oh look, some other fucking American soccer sports team. Oh, go bills. Now Bonner guy's fired up about this, but then he called back. No, I'm just kidding. You're right. That was a pretty good question, actually. It was a good question. If you sign up at Damocon.live, you can stream the programs that we put up there any time thereafter.

Good question. We talked about My Wife's Milkers. Who else can we talk about? Hey, Carl. JF here. Can we start a GoFundMe or PayPal, Streamlabs, all that little shit? How much for Lucy to show her big, beautiful hands? Like, I'll contribute to the fun.

I got my lube. I got my KY. My pants are already off. I'm ready to go. So let me know if we got can see those big love muffins. And yeah, I'll contribute. All right, sounds good. Thanks for letting me know. All right, sorry, Greg. I'm out of the phone.

What were you saying now? Oh, shit. We're working on it. It's a work in progress still, everybody. I'll chip in some Rumble Rants for that. All right, very good. Maybe I'll just make an AI version of it not tell her Gary and San Diego Aaron Aaron Aaron got into trouble doing some stuff like that

Not announced that on the show pretty good spot for a tattoo. Am I right? Huh? Whoa, what's this text you just sent me Carl? Let me just open it while we're on the air still and there's a document of this Your boy done good Hey Carl Well, I guess I was a little under the weather last time I called you. You sound like shit. But I'm feeling a lot better now. Good. Anyway, it's been a while since John had his final podcast and at that time he said he had a, he would come back for a non-negotiable $1,000 interview, long

form interview. So far it's been quite a while and nobody's ponied up to that bar to pay him the $1,000. I'm wondering, do you think somebody will come back if somebody offers him maybe 500 or 250 or 100? At what point will he come back? Will his non-negotiable point of view change or is he completely out of it and he'll never come back? What do you think? I'm thinking at some point you'll be able to grab him for about a hundred bucks Which would be great. I'd pay a hundred bucks to interview him for an hour Rock and roll rock and roll Gary. I'll tell you the problem with that the flaw in that thinking

John is a compulsive liar So talking to John and being like hey, what do you been up to the last couple months? I've been on my boat I'm an executive at an agency. It's like okay. Well, what have you been up to the last couple months? I've been on my boat. I'm an executive at an ad agency. It's like, okay, well, what are we talking about then? What the fuck is the point of any of this? People are always comparing John to this guy, Big Ed from 90 Days.

Yes. Fiance, because they both have no neck. And they're both deeply unlikable and short. And very short. Yeah, Big Ed was very, very popular for a while. He was making money off of social media. and now you can see him walking around the town that he lives in with the sign That says $20 for pictures. Yeah, he just walks around and people stop him because he's noticeable John's gonna be

Doing that in Cape Coral in about a month or two if he doesn't come back soon He might want to go to Times Square to do that. That'd be great but he can't compete with those Superman and Batman like Spider-Man or Stunnery Jabber the Howard Stern Show. Yeah no he's an icon and all but I don't think he can compete with uh Brennan Stimpy. Get a picture of me with Slimer. Oh my god. Oh my god I assumed you would want him dressed up a spider-man. I had my mistake Here's a guy who hates Gary and San Diego hey Carl Gary and San Diego go away No one cares listen to me and my screw bullish his voices Opi's catching up with Gary. All right. I say with Gary as well justice for Gary guys

Pineapple on pizza. What do you think? Little bit late to listening to Wednesday's show Sorry Carl, I uh, little bit late to listening to Wednesday's show But yeah pineapple on pizza is fucking good bacon good. Yep. Something else That's really good is the banana peppers that that guy mentioned is also a banger agree in combination with the other two ingredients They can't go wrong with it pineapple on pizza fucking go to everyone that says otherwise is fucking gay or they're straight. If they're gay, you know, whatever their preferred sexual orientation is,

swap. That was a joke. Secondly, I forgot what I was going to say, but it looks like I'm under 45 or over 45 now. So, you know, sorry, you can cut this now. So yeah, you know, yeah boy. Sorry Short just you know, I got the good stuff in and now I'm like rambling so Yeah, I don't edit like that's not my job daddy your shit and a lot of other things I Like that thing where people realize that they're going too long and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm going to like keep him going Too long. This is probably a problem, right? I'm going to like shut the fuck up hang up the phone But thank you for your call about pineapple. You're right about that Banana pepper even a jalapeno pepper. I am starving. I know we need to eat some food. All right

Saturday listener calling in about Adam Saturday listeners don't hear Adam Until this past Saturday. Hey Carla. This is a Saturday listener What the hell is this Adam Bush keep that shit on Wednesdays? We don't need that shit over here. Go fuck yourself Jesus Saturday listeners are harsh. He has a point though. Yeah, a couple good points why I played it Here's another important call hey Hey Carl, I just called. Forgot to tell you I tried pineapple and bacon. Fucking knocked my socks off.

Go fuck yourself. Bye. Knocks your socks off pineapple and bacon on pizza. Thank you. Yeah, it's like I was the crazy one. Here's an interesting idea. Hey Carl and Chris, all this talk about getting John a political career reminded me of the time my dad accidentally got voted in as like cemetery keeper.

The real trick to getting John a like weird political position is keep it small, keep it something that like people could accidentally vote him in. And like the best part about John is that because it's a title, he will absolutely accept it no matter how dumb, no matter how asinine, and no matter how much work actually is involved in it. He'll pick up that title and just carry it with pride and then he'll get fired. Thanks. What do you think? Is that the strategy? He's not gonna become the senator or a congressperson from Florida, but custodian Comptroller Comptroller. Yeah, I wouldn't trust him in that role either. But there's not a lot of people running for it. You never know.

So John's got a name. Maybe get him on there. He has his dog's diploma on his wall as one of his accomplishments. I forgot about like a neighborhood neighborhood beautification society or just someone who's one. Does he make sense? I'd say be good at it. Guys, as you know, I host a lot of different shows and when good ideas come to me, I roll with them. I think that we should call the Opie round table

point doggy point. Call me back. Point doggy point coming soon. Who are these podcasts? Nailed it. We need to want to defend all we'll finally have a show where there's a second point. You had a chance today to be a counterpoint. Well, it was hard today. All right. Here's our last voicemail. Ronnie and Syracuse talking about Opie's duct tape. Hey Carl, Ronnie in Syracuse, love you, love the show. Just wanted to say I appreciate you guys rotating

Jenny and Lucy for the Net News segment. I really am being serious and it's really been enjoyable. Each one of them brings a different energy and a different spin to it, so I like that. But I wanted to comment on a couple shows ago you were talking about OP using duct tape for his camera and his cheap shows ago you were talking about Opie using duct tape for his camera and this cheap setup and Anthony was talking about what it costs to buy a good setup which isn't much. But it's just interesting because I mean today with Amazon you can order

one of these like gorilla mounts where you just had the flexible arms and stuff. It's like the mini tripod. I mean you know what I'm talking about. It's just it doesn't make sense that Opie would go this route. And even more strange to me is that what does Opie even have duct tape for? I don't think he fixes anything around the house. I'm sure he pays people to do it. Good point.

So it was just weird to me. I mean, I know he was duct taping the camera in the car. He might not be doing that at home. But I mean, I did a little bit of YouTube stuff and a little bit of an audio podcast at one point. And before I did anything, I tried to, you know, do what I could to make it sound and look decent. So hope I didn't go too long. Thank you. Fuck you. Bye. I liked I liked your point about why would Opie have duct tape is

like he's doing duct work, maybe a Gephardt. That's what he's doing. When they're not recording the show. That was the investment he made in his show. The purchase of that duct tape. Right. That was the investment he made in his show. Purchase of that duct tape. Right. Alright. Speaking of the opster. I gotta go. Bye't beat us away. Thanks guys, thanks for hanging out with us. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.