Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - 15 - Evan Munro-Smith and Alasdair Tremblay-Birchall

Episode Date: December 19, 2022

Who Knew It with Matt Stewart is a comedy game show podcast hosted by Australian comedian Matt Stewart. This episode features guests Evan Munro-Smith (Gamey Gamey Game, Stupid Old Studios) and Alasdair Tremblay-Birchall (Two In The Think Tank, Stupid Old Studios)!Check out Matt's stand up special FREE on YouTube: https://youtu.be/cWStRpI-BhESupport the show via http://patreon.com/dogoonpod and you can submit questions for the show!See the show live, get tickets via: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/Check out Matt, Jess and Dave's podcast network: https://dogoonpod.com/Theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and Logo by @muzdoodles! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh my God, can you believe it? It's the year 2024. It's Melbourne Comedy Festival and we've just moved venues. We're at the Grace Darling now. We had a great run at the Chinese Museum, selling out shows by the end, but now we need you to come over to the Grace Darling and shows are at 7.15. It's going to be so much fun. Love to see you there. Let's have a beer. Use discount code DOGOON. The show's called Dry Dry at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Then we're going to Sydney and Brisbane. Tickets to all that stuff's on sale now. And you can find those tickets and details at mattstuartcomedy.com. Welcome to Who Knew It with Matt Stewart, the show where the guests write the wrong answers. I'm the titular Matt Stewart and our guest this week, firstly, is host of the Gamey Gamey Game Show. It's Evan Munro-Smith. Hello. So you're the first guest. I said, and our guest this week.

I was surprised. And then I was panicking. Because if you were going clockwise, I'd be the second guest. Well, I'm not going clockwise.'m like... If you were going clockwise, I'd be the second guest. Well, I'm not going clockwise. No. I am going clockwise. You'd be the first guest. Alright, I'm thinking of an upside down clock. And if you were going alphabetically, if you were thinking

if you're going alphabetically, you would have gone with me. Yeah. Well, that's true. So you're not going clockwise or alphabetic. What system do you have? No, I think he is going clockwise. I am going clockwise. But I'm just going off the list that I've written it down in. And it was going to be Beck, but Beck's too busy. So instead, it is just Evan and Al. Okay.

Great. Who am I? Oh, and our second contestant is the host of the Two in the Think Tank podcast. It's Alistair Trumboy-Birchall. Hi, everybody. That's beautiful. What does titular mean? From the title.

Title. The title of the show is Who Knew With Matt Stewart. All right. So I'm the titular Matt Stewart. I hope that's right. I've never really checked. No one's put me up on it. Yeah.

No. No, that's right. I would have said title. Titleist. That's a golf ball. Yeah. The self-titled host. Yeah.

Anyway, forget it. Eponymous? Eponymous. Is it? A beautiful animal. Oedipus. All right. The way the show works is I ask a relatively obscure question

and our contestants have to write a convincing fake answer. I then read their answers as well as a real one, the real one, and they have to guess which one is correct okay are we ready to play i just got ready yeah so i'm ready oh that was beautiful timing yeah great i can do it all right here's question number one it comes from candace harrison from two larry in california in the united states of america And the question is, what is the definition of thrunter? Thrunter. Thrunter.

What is the definition of thrunter? Yeah, great. Okay. While you're writing your answers, I'll explain how the scoring works. So you get one point if your fake answer is guessed by the other contestant and another point if you correctly guessed the answer. And by the way, I'm also playing as the house. I've put in two of my own fake answers for each question

with the help of the question writers. And I get a point for each one of these that our guests choose. So each of us can score up to two points per round. It seems fair, but the probability actually favors me, the house. And the house always wins, though. If you've been listening to recent episodes, you'll know this is not necessarily the case anyway our questions come from our great patreon supporters

and if you want to submit a question sign up on any level via patreon.com slash do go on pod linked in the show notes i had a question about your patreon supporters do you have some that are not great uh no certainly. They're all great. Surely just statistically, though. I mean, yeah, surely. In the way that there's good doctors and bad doctors and things like that. It was the worst thing to figure that out. I hated it when I realised that.

And I was at a charity auction and they were introducing the key speaker keynote speaker who was like this garden surgeon and they and they said just like plumbers you'll get good ones and bad ones this is one of the very best and i'm like oh no that's i guess that's true they're just people yeah oh it's the world i was like fully an adult by then yeah it was good that i trusted them you know through my youth. That's the two big revelations in life. Finding out your parents are just people and then finding out doctors are just people. Doctors do more

training than your parents. Unless your parents are doctors. Then it's identical. That's true. Plumbers go through a bit. They do quite a lot of Do they do med school? They do quite a lot of med school. I don't think they go all the way. They don't do that final year. They mostly focus on the veins.

Yeah, all the plumbers. And the main veins. Yeah, yeah. Some doctors are plumbers in a way. Oh, yeah? Go on. Dr. Mario. Surgeons that deal with the plumbing of the body.

Dr. Mario? Yeah, Dr. Mario. I guess that's it. Dr. Mario, I think he did a late career study and became a doctor. Oh, yeah, Dr. Mario. Mario, like I think he did a late study, late career study and became a doctor. Oh, yeah, Dr. Mario. Of course. Yeah, yeah. That's right.

He was dealing with a lot of pills and stacking them up on top of each other. As doctors tend to do. All right. So the answers are in. Here is question number one. What is the definition of thrunter? Here are your five options. Five.

A grueling CrossFit exercise. A sheep which has lived through three winters, a bar at the front of a four-wheel drive for pushing obstacles, a thrill seeker or thrill hunter, or a cable car that transports livestock between mountains. So you've got to choose. Do I just give you my answer? Well, if you've got one. I'm going to go with the cable car.

Cable car. Locking it in for Evan. Alistair, that means it's down to you. I'm going to go with. You can, and I should say, because you haven't played before. Yeah. You can look in the same answer as Evan if you like, or you can go your own way.

I also haven't played before. Can I look in the same answer as Alistair? Yes. Evan hasn't played, but you've been on the show before. I have been on the show before. But you didn't play. No, I was in like a scorekeeper. Oh, that's great.

He second-bananered me. Yeah, that's great. You didn't sort of play along a little bit in your head and just try and guess a little bit? I had all the answers in front of me, so it was, yeah. I'm going to go, what was Evan's one? The one he chose or the one he wrote? The one he chose.

He chose a cable car that transports livestock between mountains. Do you want to hear the other four? No, no, no. That does sound good. Was there a bull bar one? Like a kind of like a car? There was a bar on the front of a four-wheel drive for pushing obstacles. For American listeners, four-wheel drive.

What do you call them over in Canada? Pickup trucks. Pickups. You just slipped in your Canadian accent. Pickups. I thought they were SUVs. SUVs, pickup trucks, you know. We call them cars because, man, that's what a real car is up in Canada.

So you're going with a four-wheel drive one? Yeah, I'm going with that one. All right, let's go through who wrote the answers. Firstly, we had a grueling CrossFit exercise. That was run by the house, Candice in particular. Oh, Candice's house. We had a thrill seeker or thrill hunter. That was also the house.

Really? So you've avoided the house. That's really good. It's nice to not touch the house. A cable car that transports livestock between mountains. That's what Evan went for. That was written by Alistair Tremblay-Birchall. One point for Al there.

A bar at the front of a four-wheel drive for pushing obstacles. That was written by Evan. So you traded points there. And the correct answer was a sheep that has lived through three winters. That's really good. A thrunter. You know what? I actually had my doubt because of the four-wheel drive.

As soon as we started having that conversation, I was like, Matt's just like, he's showing me I've made a mistake. Obviously, somebody from two Larrys. Yeah, two Larrys. Two Larrys. You know, that's not, they're not going to say four-wheel drive. I feel like, yeah, I should have backed out. Well, you know, they might have just taken it off

an Australian dictionary website. I doubt that. Well, yeah, I mean have backed out. Well, you know, they might have just taken it off an Australian dictionary website. I doubt that. Well, yeah, I mean, you should doubt that now. Name one Australian dictionary. What's the Australian one? Is there one? Merriam-Webb's? No.

No, it's not Merriam-Webb's. Oxford, no. Macquarie. Macquarie, that's the official Australian dictionary of Australia. I said Australia too much. All right, so that means after one round, the house is on zero points. Yes. Alistair Tremblay-Birchall is on one point.

And Evan Munro-Smith is also on one point. Right. I think this is the first time we've ever had two hyphenated names on the show. Really? Isn't that great? Took us 15 episodes to get there. I wonder if you're ever going to beat that.

It'd be hard. I don't think it would be. I mean, I am in control. I do book the show. Yeah. So I probably could. You can take that title away from me any day. Yeah.

Maybe next week. I want to go for three. Are there three in Australian comedy? Helena Bonham Carter. I can get Helena on. I'll get Helena on the blower. Helena. Helena. Helena. G'day. G'day. I'll get Helena on the blower. Helena. Helena.

Helena. G'day. G'day. I've got a weird question for you. It's from Mikey from Sang Luang. He says, what's a cockum? What's a cockum? Cockum.

Tulare. You're moving too much. It's spelt T-U-L-A-R-E. So luckily, I would have said Tulare, but luckily Candice gave me the phonetical. It's spelt T-U-L-A-R-E. So luckily, I would have said Tulaire, but luckily Candice gave me the phonetical. That's beautiful. I'm fanatical about phonetical pronunciation. This feels weird early.

Does this feel weird to you too? This actually is the most at home I've felt for a long time. All right, we're up to question number two. There's just seven questions. We're up to two already. We're racing through. Oh, my gosh. And this one comes from Michael Nielsen from Signet in Tasmania.

Signet. And Michael writes, apart from being a Union Army general in the US Civil War, what is Ambrose Everett Burnside remembered for? Apart from being a Union Army general in the Civil War, US Civil War, what is Ambrose Everett Burnside remembered for? And while you're writing your answers, here's some more information on Thrunters. And I should tell you, I really struggled to find much info. There was a lot of

one line definitions that I could find. It's mentioned briefly in the book, an etymological dictionary of the Scottish Language by John Jamison, written in 1825. So it seems like it's an old Scottish word. And the thr part of the word relates to three, i.e. three winters the sheep has lived through. I guess that means unter maybe was an old Scottish word for sheep. And apparently the same sheep could also have been called a fronter as it was now living in its fourth year, depending on what rule you used.

Candice, the question writer, also wrote that her sister named her dog fronter, a beautiful name for a boy or a girl, dog or human. I think there was a thing in Korea where they recently had to change the way that, look, I've assumed this based on half a headline. I didn't get all the way through the headline. But I think where, you know, like I had an ex-girlfriend who was from Taiwan. And at one point she turned 20 or 25 or something like that. And then her mom told her, no, you're 26.

And she went, what? Really? Yeah. But her mom was counting. Oh, you're 26. She went, what? Really? Yeah. But her mom was counting. Oh, you're entering your 26th year. No, she was counting the day you're born, you turn one. Oh. And I think maybe Korea might've had something like that.

Right. And I think they've- That was just the normal thing that they did. Yeah. That's how they measured. Yeah. You're born one. You can't be zero.

That's nothing. It is weird to be zero they measured. Yeah, you're born at one. You can't be zero. That's nothing. It is weird to be zero. You're not zero. You're a day or you're a few minutes. Yeah, but I think they're just like, you start at one. That's just how you start, right? And so I think maybe there was a change recently like that. And so some people lost a year.

I'd love to lose a year. Well, for one year there i i thought i was 37 all year and then i got to the my birthday and i was like i'm turning 37 oh i just gained a year you gained a year yeah when i say lose a year i mean lose a a number on my age i'd love to gain a year an extra, the things you could do. All right. So here is question number two. Apart from being a Union Army General in the US Civil War, what is Ambrose Everett Burnside remembered for? Here are your five options. He accidentally besieged the allied town of Vicksburg for two weeks. He holds the record for the oldest man to climb Mount Everest.

He was the inventor of cod oil. Sideburns were named after him. Or he was the first general to deploy submarines in combat during the Civil War. Yeah, right. You see that almost makes sense now. See, it's funny, but then you go, oh, maybe there was some kind of submarine. It's probably just like a tuba guy would sit in. A tuba guy? And a guy would just sit in a tube, and then he'd go down deep,

and then he'd hide there for ages. Hang on, what's a tuba guy? Is that a guy that plays tuba? No, hide in a tube. Oh. Not in a tuba. In America, isn't tuba,? Is that a guy that plays tuba? No, I'm in a tube. Oh. I'm not in a tuba. In America, isn't tuba, isn't that a potato? That could be the case.

When did you leave America? I left 97. And at that time, there were no tubas. There were no potatoes there at the time. They hadn't arrived yet. You would still, at that time, you would still just get an orange for Christmas. Okay. You know, and then it was a real treat until they made it worldwide.

Potatoes? Yeah, oranges for Christmas. Is that You know, and then it was a real treat until they'd made it worldwide. Taters? Yeah, oranges for Christmas. Is that all North America? No. And is it a- I think that's more like our parents or generation or their parents. Because that came up recently

on a Do Go On bonus episode or something. We didn't know what it was talking about unless it was, we're thinking like those chocolate oranges, but it was just oranges.

It was just regular oranges because people were like, it was just like, it was not a common fruit. I love an orange too. I do love an orange. I love an orange. What are you in? Naval?

I mean, I'll go whatever you can buy. Yeah. I love the naval. Valencia, very popular. I think there was a push in Australia at one point. Maybe they, the government or some agency told farmers, get in the Valencia business. It's about to boom.

Really? And it didn't. They're not as good of an eating orange. They're more of a juicing orange. Did you get that from the Simpsons? Maybe. I don't know. Because I think at some point Skinner has a bag of orange.

Valencia. It's a juicing orange. I don't remember that. But that is so funny. I don't think I've ever bought an orange before. What? What? You've always been given oranges? Yeah. I don't think I did, but that is so funny. I don't think I've ever bought an orange before. What? You've always been given oranges? Yeah.

I don't know when I would ever. What kind of blessed life do you live where you just walk around getting oranges given to you? I think I only ever eat them when they're just around. It's just not something that I've ever think, maybe I'll buy an orange. You were born in Mildura though, right? No.

You were born in. Orange capital of Victoria. You were born in Florida though, right? Orange capital of America. You were born on the cover of the No Doubt album, right? Which was called- It was called Evil Empire. No.

Tragic Kingdom. Tragic Kingdom. It had an orange on the front? It had a bunch of oranges. I think they might've all been rotten a bit. Ah, I lie. There was front? It had a bunch of oranges. I think they might have all been rotten a bit. Ah, I lie. There was that time I bought a bunch of oranges. Okay.

Okay, there you go. It seemed unlikely. But I didn't eat any of them or juice them. So you never eat a bought orange. I don't think I have ever bought orange to eat. That almost sounds like a bit of wisdom. You never eat a bought orange. Evan never eats a bought orange.

Yeah, never eat a bought orange. A bought orange is never eaten. I think I'm going to need to hear these options again. Okay, well, yes, I forgot what we were doing. Okay. Ambrose, Everett Burnside. What's he remembered for apart from being a Union Army general? He accidentally besieged the allied town of Vicksburg for two weeks.

He holds the record for the oldest man to climb Mount Everest. He was the inventor of cod oil. Sideburns are named after him, where he was the first general to deploy submarines in combat during the Civil War. And what was this? Oh, that's how we got onto this? Because of tubers.

Yeah. What was his name again? His name was Ambrose Everett Burnside. Hmm. Burnside, sideburn. Could be, could be. Yeah, but I feel like that would be very facial hair dependent. You mean based on whether or not he, do you have any photos of him?

I mean, I do. If I Google it, I'm sure he's. Does he have sideburns? Yeah. Are you able to give that information? I don't know. I've never been asked such things. I can't picture him right now, but do you able to give that information? I don't know. I've never been asked such things. I can't picture him right now, but do you want me to Google it?

No, it's okay. I'm going to say the first one, I think he besieged the, what was it, an allied village? An allied village of Vicksburg. Yeah. Evan's locking that one in. I'm also locking that one in. But I'm going to lock it in.

Oh, Scottish style. Lock it in. Your birth country. That's right. Aberdeen. Do you ever slip back into your Scottish accent? Yeah. How long were you there?

Right. You left as a baby. That's right. Okay. All right. So you've both locked in option one. Let's go through the answers. He was the first general to deploy submarines.

That was written by the House. Yeah. Including Michael. Great work from Michael there. He was the inventor of cod oil. That was Alistair. Because, of course. That's pretty good.

Cods invented cod oil. I think that was my second. That was your second. Oh, you were going to go for that? I was leaning that way. He holds a record for the oldest man to climb Mount Everest. That was Evan Ronald Smith. Oh, I actually was considering that way. He holds the record for the oldest man to climb Mount Everest. That was Evan Rorish-Smith. I actually was considering that one.

I was like, oh, that's actually quite interesting. It's not as boring as the one I chose. He accidentally besieged the allied town of Vicksburg for two weeks. That was run by the House. No! Specifically, Michael's a question writer, meaning the correct answer is sideburns are named after him. No way.

Wow. No. Yes. Why would I lie about this? Well, you have nothing but to gain from it. That's true. You are the house. I feel like you have a bias here.

I've got a lot to gain. Like two points, right? That is correct. So you're winning now. After two rounds. The scores are Evan on one point, Alistair Trombley-Burchell on one point, That is correct. So you're winning now. After two rounds. The scores are Evan on one point, Alistair Trombley-Birchall on one point, but the house out in front on two points.

Do you feel a lot of hostility towards the house? Do I feel? Well, I mean, I'm sort of one with the house. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't love it when the house wins. No? No. Okay.

It's an uncomfortable position to be in. Yeah. But, like you said, the odds are in its favour. Yeah. Okay. It's an uncomfortable position to be in. Yeah. But like you said, the odds are in its favour. Yeah. Okay. Here we are with question number three. This one comes from Patrick J. Ryan from Branch Rock in MA. Where's MA? Mature Audiences.

Mature, yes. It's Massachusetts, is it? Fantastic. I guess so. What a beautiful neck of the woods. Mishagin, no? Mishagin. Mishagin.

Mishagin, no. Majuli. Question number three. What was the nickname of former New England Patriots running back Ben Jarvis Green Ellis? Another hyphenated surname. Wow. Ben Jarvis is one name, first name, and then Green Ellis.

Ben Jarvis. Ben Jarvis, Green Ellis. Green Ellis. And while you're writing your answers here, I'll let the listeners know that today the three of us are on the last episode of Gamey Gamey Game for the year, the Christmas special. And if they want to check that out,

they can go to the Stupid Old Channel on YouTube. That's right. Well done. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Naomi Higgins can go to the Stupid Old Channel on YouTube. That's right. Well done. My goodness. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Naomi Higgins is going to be at the desk as well. Wow. It's going to be nice to see Naomi again.

Yeah, I haven't seen her since the last week. Really? Yeah. Do you think a lot has changed with Naomi? I mean, you never know with Naomi. You don't. Yeah. Sometimes she's sort of just chilling at home, but then other times she's

got a lot on. That's really interesting. She's kind of unique in that way, I guess. She can do it all. Yeah. She's clearly leaning in, I reckon. Do you want to hear a bit more about

Ambrose Everett Burnside? A little bit. Is that a hyphenated name or is that just three names? No, it's three names. I think maybe, you know, like serial killers in America always get their middle name brought to prominence. It's because there's too many Ambrose Burnside's. Yes. Which one?

It's any sort of murderers or anyone who's had facial hair named after them. Sure. According to Merriam-Webster, the original sideburns were called burn sides. Burn sides were a magnificent construction of facial hair, one to make any hipster jealous. I don't know if I like the Merriam-Webster going off and this sort of editorialising stuff. Yeah, that's surprising.

I guess this is on their blog or something. It's not under the definition or whatever. Thick strips of facial hair growing down the cheeks and connecting to a full moustache but with a clean shaven chin. Burnside's owe their existence to General Ambrose Burnside, a Civil War veteran, industrialist, innovator, and Rhode Island senator who died in 1881. This man, he did it all.

He did everything. So I thought I didn't realise sideburns necessarily connected to a moustache like what you have. I thought that was a mutton chop situation. So yours don't even. No, I've got a Mervyn Hughes at the moment. Okay, yep. There's no connection up to the sideburn.

But before his death in 1881, Burnside had become a household name, but not for any of these things, but for his luxuriant facial hair. Burnside's facial hair was so notable that the name Burnside Whiskers came to be used to refer to his moustache side whiskers combo. So this Burnside was for the moustache side burns thing. The Burnside, so notable, had a palpable influence not just on men's grooming but on English. Under the rule of the Burnside, the name for the long strips

of facial hair worn in front of the ears and along the cheeks were no longer called side whiskers but came to be called sideburns, a play on Burnside. So the mustache connector were Burnside's and they're like, hey, this name's got more work to do. Picture it like an orange. We could squeeze a little more juice out of this. So that's how they came to be called Sideburns.

It's quite strange, really, because they already had a name, Sidewhisker. Yeah, yeah. I always find, and this is somehow not really that related, but you know when you're driving and sometimes, do you ever forget how to say overtake? I'm going to not really that related. But, you know, when you're driving and sometimes, do you ever forget how to say overtake? I'm going to overtake that car. And then I always go, I'm going to take over that car.

And I go, wait, take over. Why does that sound so weird? Take over. Go and take over that car. Wait, that's not right. All of a sudden you're like telling someone to grab the wheel. You've went down the window. You're about to leap across. It's a grand theft auto theft auto situation yeah but then what i mean is overtake and so

maybe it's one of those situations like burn side burn side side side burn side burn side burn is that right i've got all the right words yeah i mean how many fucking orders can this be in anyway i think it's exactly it's probably exactly like that you think so all right here's question number three what was the nickname of of former New England Patriots running back Ben Jarvis Green Ellis? Ellis Island. The law firm. The concrete corvette.

Slippery dick. Or the sizzler. Was it before we started recording? It was before we started recording that I suggested this. I was explaining the show to Alan saying these are some of the kinds of questions you could come up with. One of them might be, what's this person's nickname? And Al said, the Sizzler.

And I said, well, you've burnt that now. It can't be used, but somehow it's appeared here. Yeah, I don't know. So your options, Ben Jarvis, Green Ellis, what was his nickname? Ellis Island, the Law Firm, The Concrete Corvette, Slippery Dick, or The Sizzler. I think Evan's going first both times, Al. Do you want to jump in here?

No. You know, I'm going to go with The Concrete Corvette. The Concrete Corvette for Ellis. Was he a football player? He was, yeah, played in the NFL. NFL, national football. For the Patriots. So probably in like the Tom Brady team maybe.

Okay. So it's either that or the law firm. I'm going to go with the concrete Corvette. Concrete Corvette. It seems weird to refer to one person as a firm. Yeah, but you don't know why yet. Yeah, that's true. Maybe he's multiple people and studies law or practices law.

His name, remember, is Ben Jarvis Green Ellis. Yeah, that's a good point. I think that's the point that it sounds, you know, like there's normally multiple names on a law firm. Yeah, yeah, okay. I mean, that does sound like that's what the house would think. Yeah. I'm going to go Slippery Dick.

Why not? Hey, why not? You can't make that up. You can't. No one's made that up. That's just their nickname. He got it at birth. All right, let's go through the answers.

Ellis Island, that was written by the house, Patrick in particular. The Sizzler was written by Evan. written by evan i mean you almost got me what are the odds uh slippery dick that was written by al so one yes one point for al you can make that up the concrete corvette that was in by the house. No! I thought that was so ridiculous. I don't know. I mean, this Corvette's an American car. It's like you're playing football.

There was that guy in Australia called the Brick with Eyes. Yeah, that's true. The Fridge. There's a lot of those sort of names. Yeah, that's true. But I'm like, a Concrete Corvette, that wouldn't be able to move. And this guy's a running back. But you're right.

Yeah, it makes sense. It'd just be someone who could just barge move. And these guys are running back. But you're right. Yeah, it makes sense. It'd just be someone who could just barge through. And it was a bit sleek. It's actually a really good one I've come up with. And I think I should call the NFL and let them know. So the correct answer was the law firm. God damn. It sounded too easy.

Yes, and I assume it is for the reason I said, right? I couldn't figure out. No one spelt it out, but I assume that's why. Yeah, it's got to be. Law firms over there have all got those sort of long names, I think. If watching those comedy drama shows that are set in law firms, is anything to go by? Yeah, and the ones that you see here as well.

Do we have law firms here? I think they bring them over. Name one. Morris Blackburn. Oh, that's true. Yeah, but that's only a double-namer. Are there any quads? There was. All right.

So what does that mean? One score for me, one point for me. Sorry, one point for the house, not me. Not you. And one point for Alistair Tremblay-Birtual, meaning the scores are now Evan Munro-Smith on one point for the house, not me. Not you. And one point for Alistair Tremblay-Birchall, meaning the scores are now Evan Munro-Smith on one point, ATB on two points, but out in front it's still the house on three points. One, two, three.

But we're not even halfway yet. It is still anyone's game. I love that. Evan, you could get two points right here, right now, and rocket yourself into the lead. That's true, I could. Like some sort of concrete corvette. How can Evan get two points? If I guess the right answer and you guess my answer, then I would get two points. Oh yes, of course.

Yeah, that's the trick. You can do it. You shouldn't do the joke ones. No, no, no. I thought mine was a joke one. In the ideal world, you do a joke one that gets picked like Al and I just did. I thought Concrete Corvette was funny. But it turns out it wasn't that funny. The more Al explained it to me, the more I realised that that is quite a good running back nickname. It's quite stupid they called him the law firm.

I'm picturing a Concrete Corvette just like the guy who's just spent $100,000 on a car and he can't move. Yeah. The weirds all stuck together. I mean, you're not really believing in the Corvette power. That's true.

Yeah. What, three, four horsepower? At least. The power of three or four horses in one car? Freaking hell. You know, one horse has got

more than one horsepower. I did not know that. Really? Yeah. That's awesome. That's really great. I assumed it would have just been about one horse has got more than one horsepower? I did not know that. That's awesome. That's really great. I assumed it would have just been about one horse. No, no, no.

That's very naive. That is naive. I don't know about anything. You're thinking of a pony. Oh, okay. Pony power. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors. Like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause,

causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. Here is question number four. This one comes from Jim Bates from Sackett's Harbor in New York. And Jim's question is, what did Frankie Munez, aka Malcolm from Malcolm in the Middle, tweet on the 13th of September 2019? What did Frankie Munez tweet on the 13th of September 2019? While you're writing your answers, here's a little bit

more information about the law firm. It's not known who came up with the nickname. The first time Green Alice himself heard it was on TV. He's not even sure he came up with it. According to Patrick, who wrote the question, Ben Jarvis played six seasons in the NFL and never once fumbled the ball. Bonus fun fact, other former Patriot players are Ty Law and Lawyer Malloy. So Law, Lawyer and Law Firm all played on the same team. Now, I've got to tell you, Patrick, that's a fun fact.

You know who loves fun? Everybody. All right, here's question, I believe, number four. What did Frankie Munez tweet on the 13th of September 2019? An accidental nude photo uh some say my career peaked when i was 13 but i'm actually peaking right now bracket the mdma is kicking in i know i've probably tweeted this before but damn i love sausage fun fact at brian cranston also cooked meth on the set of malcolm in the middle or cafe okay so five yeah the thing with a tweet is it really could be anything i don't think you could

write a nonsense answer here that would put you out of the running also but also none of them would seem notable enough yeah in the scheme of like put into a show i think a nude photo well it would be notable but did he tweet the words he posted a nude photo or did he post a nude photo i mean and you only have to remember it's it's only got to be notable enough for jim bates from sackett's harbor yeah that's true yeah yeah and then i guess me because I picked it. I guess when you're writing trivia questions, you go down some rabbit holes. Yeah.

And then the idea about the guy cooking meth on the thing. Yeah. You know, like what, you know, now it's really a question of what would really yank Matt's chain, you know? What really gets Matt going? Yeah. You know, does he love a Donald Trump reference? You know, is that his thing?

Which is Kefefe? I think so. Yeah, that's what Trump treated that, but way later. Maybe Trump was referring to Frankie Muniz. It could be it. Later than 2019? Oh, was it 2019? 2019.

I think he must have done that. Even maybe before he was president? Yeah, no, maybe it was 2016 or something. So you're quickly just going through him again accent on nude photo the one where he uh basically did a pun about peaking on mdma uh saying how much he loves sausage uh tagging in brian cranson and saying that he cooked meth on malcolm in the middle because that's what he did on Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad, yeah. Or Kefefe. Now that career one, about career peaking, he says some percent my career peaked.

But then he says the MDMA. Now, is his career on MDMA? Or is he doing MDMA? Yeah. That's a beautiful question. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. But I'll think about that.

I'm going to say the nude Yeah. But I'll, I'll think about that. I'm going to, I'm going to say the nude photo. Nude photo for out. I'm going to go Brian, the Brian Cranston one. Could be notable. I don't know. Oh no.

I reckon Evan must've posted the nude photo. I don't post nude photos out. I know, but not anymore. Not on purpose anyway. All right, let's go through the answers. Kefefe, that was Alistair Trombeau-Birchall. The MDMA one, that was the house.

That reeked of house. An accidental nude photo, that was Evan. Go! So a point to evan no uh fun fact brian cranson also cooked meth on the set of malcolm in the middle that was also the house the correct answer was i know i've probably tweeted this before but damn i love sausage you don't think that's noteworthy yeah probably is noteworthy sure yeah I've had

it was the one I forgot you know yeah I'd forgotten I was like oh there's another one right it's the one that got away so that means

one point to Evan one point to the house what'd the house get again the house got the MDMA oh no the the meth cooking one the the one you picked.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. So that means the scores are Evan on two points, Alistair on two points, but the house in front on four points. Far out. Far out. Three rounds to go. You really need to.

You know that I don't want to win. We've got to lift our game. And you both do want to win, so we could all leave unhappy here. This is in your hands. Yeah, right. Here's question number five. This one comes from Brianna in Queensland. Mm, Brianna.

Which of these is a real species of spider? Which of these is a real species of spider? So basically all you've got to do here is give me the name of a fake made-up spider. And while you're writing your answers, here's some more information. Can I give you a real species of spider? Ideally it's not a real species of spider. And while you're writing your answers, here's some more information. Can I give you a real species of spider? Ideally, it's not a real species of spider. Okay.

What if I accidently? I mean, you could stumble upon it. It's true. There's a lot of species out there. That's true. Here's some more info about Frankie Muniz's tweet. It had over 60,000 likes and 11,000 retweets. And you two are thinking this wasn't noteworthy.

No, you're right. I think the lichen sausage thing is noteworthy. People loved hearing about it. And he said, I've probably tweeted about this before. I looked it up. He had never tweeted before. I love sausage. But nine years earlier, on the 2nd of December 2010,

he tweeted in all caps, waffles and sausage, waffles and sausage, waffles and sausage, waffles and sausage, waffles and sausage, waffles and sausage. Yum. You know, I've never had waffles and sausage. That's a combo. No, we don't really do savory waffles here or really waffles at all. You know, me and my family, we've become big waffle people. Really? On special occasions.

Well, it's a big Canadian thing, isn't it? Waffles and bacon? Up in Canada, we do have ourselves some waffles. We call them Eggos. Flipping that thick Canadian accent. But it's because of a TV show called, called Steven Universe.

Oh, Steven Universe. I thought it was going to be called Waffles. And in Steven Universe, they make together breakfast, which is a bunch of waffles. And then there's popcorn on it. And then there's whipped cream.

And then there's chocolate sauce. Oh, wow. And then strawberry. I guess that's good. It's genuinely, whipped cream, and then there's chocolate sauce. Oh, wow. And then strawberry. I guess that's good. It's genuinely way less sweet than you would think. Yeah, it sounds too much. But think about it because a lot of it is popcorn.

Yeah, popcorn. It's salty. Yeah, it's not a sweet popcorn. It's a salty pop. Yeah, sweet popcorn sucks. All right. So the answers are in. Here's question number five. Which one of these is a real species of spider?

The aracharachnid, sparkle muffin spider, the sanitary quibbler, spy versus spider, or the Murray River longback? Who sent this in? This was sent in from Brianna from Queensland. I'm just going to need to hear them one more time. The Aracharachnid, Sparkle Muffin Spider, the Sanitary Quibbler,

Spy vs. Spider, or the Murray River Longback. The Murray River Longback seems like it's there to bait you. Much like a spider might get you caught in its web. So sticky, that one. God, I want to pick it.

But, I mean, man, there's some strange spider names out there, though, aren't there? I think when you were sidekicking on this, on that episode, there was another weird spider name. Yeah, it's a good trivia one. It was called like the turd burglar or something. Well, look, I don't think it's going to be spy versus spider. No.

You know, but the one that I, for some reason, it's catching me in its web other than the long back is the sparkle muffin. Okay. Because you could understand there could be a fun little scientist in there who just

loves sparkles, loves muffins. Scientists love muffins. There's a lot of scientists that have strange colored hair. loves muffins. Scientists love muffins. There's a lot of scientists that have strange colored hair. That's true. Some of those, what do they

call them when they're not symmetrical haircuts? Asymmetrical haircuts. Of course, we're not talking about asymmetrical haircuts. Middle part. Scientists, No. So hard to explain when you want to tell somebody, well,

this person had a symmetrical haircut. But I mean, when you think about it, a symmetrical haircut would also, I mean, a normal, most normal haircuts would be asymmetrical. Something like a Mohawk or something would be symmetrical.

For example. Asymmetrical. Would Asymmetrical haircut. Would be asymmetrical haircut. Were you looking? So you've got it down to two. Which way are you going to go? Sparkle muffin. Sparkle muffin for Al.

I'm getting fakied here. What was the third one? Sanitary quibbler. What was the fourth one? Fourth one was spy versus spider. Fifth one was the Murray River longback. What was the second one? Sanitary Quibbler. What was the fourth one? Sanitary Quibbler. Fourth one was Spy versus Spider. Fifth one was the Murrow River Longback. What was the second one? Sparkle Muffin Spider.

What was the third one? The Sanitary Quibbler or Sanitary Quibbler. I'm going to go with that one for some reason. Sanitary Quibbler? Yeah, I don't know. All right, let's go through. I can't reason my way into this. I can't.

Well, often these- I don't think it's a reasonable answer. You can't always reason your way into this. These ones especially can't always be reasoned. All right, here are the writers of the answers. The Murray River Longback. That was Evan Monroe Smith. I knew that was a sticky web.

Should have gone sillier. Spy versus Spider. That was The House. That felt like House. The Aracharachnid. That was a sticky web. It should have gone sillier. Spy versus spider. That was the house. That felt like house. The aracharachnid. That was also the house. That also reeked of house. Because we did a, Dave Warnock and me did like a corporate quiz

for a Christmas end of year party this week. And I asked this question there. And someone did the baracharachnid. And I'm like, that's so fun to say i'm like but i can't directly rip it off of course so i'll just nearly rip it off sure uh the sanitary quibbler that was al meaning the sparkle muffin spider was correct meaning al gets two maximum points that felt really good that felt really good i That felt really good. I got two points?

You got two because you guessed it right and Evan got your. You fooled me. Yeah, no, that was, yeah. I don't know how I did that, but that was truly good. And you almost fooled me. Yeah, almost. You could see me. You could feel the vibrations in the strands.

I think if it was a more straight, you know, version of this game and everyone liking, you weren't picking such ridiculous ants, that sort of stuff, then the Murray River more straight, you know, version of this game and everyone like you weren't picking such ridiculous ants and that sort of stuff, then the Murray River long back, you know. And depending on the player, that would often get guessed, I think. Yeah. You were just unlucky that Al had this whole blue hair theory. If there was one or two more like normal sounding ones. Yeah.

Anyway. You live and you learn. Yeah. But you can't because it's going to change every time. You don't know what else is going to be there. You actually can't learn from this. You can't learn. Okay.

All right. No, that's good to know. And you are dead. Don't try. I think the first time I ever heard about waffles, and I will go more backtrack over here, was another Simpsons reference where it goes, sticking together is what good waffles do.

And those actually did look like Eggos. Oh, okay. Eggos were kind of like a frozen waffle that you can get. I think you can probably still get them in the store. I know that from Stranger Things. Oh, I haven't watched it. I had to watch it. You haven't watched Stranger Things?

I had to watch a 15-minute summary of the first three seasons so I could write sketches about it. Okay. Parodies of the show three seasons so i could write sketches about it okay parodies of the show great i look forward to those deep references you use well you got to remember that the general public may not have seen it so you have to write sketches that people can okay understand that it's part of the thing but then the sketch still somehow you're you're the perfect man for the job perfect amount of info in my head for it. I know too much to do something like that. Yeah, exactly.

So we have two questions left, two rounds left. Let's do a quick score check. We've got Evan on two points. But now into equal first, it's Alistair on four points with the house on four points. Yes. Still anyone's game. If Evan pulls out a double point a round,

we'll go into the final round all locked up. If you pull out two double pointers. Oh, my God. You'll run away with it. Like some sort of concrete Corvette. Question number six comes from Jessica and Steven Gruber from Kent in Washington in the United States. The question is, what happened in Florence, Oregon, on the 12th of November, 1970? What happened in Florence, Oregon, on the 12th of November, 1970?

Not too far, I assume, from Kent, Washington, because I think Oregon and Washington border each other up on the Pacific Northwest. It's a Bigfoot country up there. And Fraser from the show Fraser is also from up there. Really? Well, the show's based in Seattle in Washington. I guess that makes sense.

Seattle. I'm listening. And while you're writing those answers, here's some more info on the sparkle muffin spider. According to Live Science, it was only discovered in 2015 when this article was written, two gorgeous new species of peacock spiders nicknamed Skeletaurus and Sparkle Muffin have been discovered in Australia

according to a new report. Peacock spiders are so named because of their bright colours and their dance-like courtship rituals. The two new species were found in southeast Queensland by Madeline Gerard, a graduate student at the University of California, Berkeley, who studies peacock spiders, and a friend who went with her into the field. Gerard affectionately gave the nickname Sparkle Muffin to one of the species, which sort of Latin name is Maratus jactatusatus which has bluish and reddish stripes

on its abdomen live science spoke to jürgen otto an entomologist about the discovery and otto admitted that because sparkle muffin was somewhat similar to other peacock species he had seen before he was not too excited about it at first but then became fonder of it it was in particular its docile nature and soft teddy bear like appearance that really charmed me he said it was a fun spider to work with i'll go to i'll show you a picture of it al this better not be that ambrose guy with the big mustache i don't know why i'm saying that they look very similar actually uh the sparkle muffin imagine in a different world could have been called the sparkle muffin instead of sideburns oh this is one of those dancing are these like jumping peacock ones yeah i love these how cool does that look yeah they're

beautiful that's so beautiful sparkle muffin you know what i mean yeah yeah it doesn't it doesn't give me sparkle muffin vibes right but i love that he's called it that still. I think for me, Sparkle Muffin, you've got to hit more of those kind of turquoises and pinks. Yeah, okay. That's nice, though. That's beautiful. Yeah, what a beautiful spider.

And so furry as well. Yeah, I wonder if they're all pretty furry. Yeah, I guess they are. Because that's how they're here or something, is it? Because of the hairs if um if um that joke by daniel connell is to be believed and i believe daniel connell has just released a uh comedy special on youtube he has that's right um and uh so you can check that out and you can can also check Matt Stewart's new special on YouTube and Jack Drew's. Bloody hell.

A lot of free comedy up for grabs. All right. It looks like your answers are in. Are you ready for question number six? What happened in Florence, Oregon on the 12th of November, 1970? Have you been to Oregon now? It's quite close to Canada. Well, back when I was in Canada, we occasionally went down to New York State.

Vermont, believe me. We would take us to Vermont. Right. Home of the creamy. That's right. Did you ever have a creamy? I have not had a single creamy. What's a creamy?

It's the Vermont's, one of their signature dishes. It's some sort of soft-served ice cream touching. Oh, no. Well, in Canada, we call it a milky. A soft-serve ice cream? Is that what you said? Yeah, some sort of soft-serve ice cream. Like what you get at McDonald's?

I mean, I've only seen pictures, but supposedly they're even better. Better than a soft-serve? Yeah, I think it's better than a soft-serve. How is it not just an ice cream? I don't understand. I don't really either. Alistair? Well, from my understanding, it's very creamy.

Yeah. It's very soft. That's probably the key. Is it liquid? It's that beautiful sip liquid that you want in all ice creams. All right. So question six. What happened in Florence, Oregon?

And you can use any of that information you just got from Alistair there, Evan, to make your choice. What happened in Florence, Oregon on the 12th of November, 1970? They had their Veterans Day Parade a day late due to the main street being double booked. A beach whale carcass was blown up using dynamite. Local hippie Daryl Dreamstein cut his hair, unofficially ending Oregon's extended summer of love.

A mysterious aircraft crashed into a cornfield and was never officially identified and is still rumoured to be a real UFO. Well, finally, Martin Connery's helicopter tangled in some power lines while landing was launched into a children's hospital, killing three kids. That's grim. You've got to find balance, Evan. It can't all just be kids living their lives.

Okay, all right, yeah. It's going to be some notable event. Yeah. Sure, you know, you're right. It can't all just be guys getting their hair cut. All right. So quickly again, your five options. The Veterans Day Parade was double booked.

Blown up whale carcass. The hippie having his hair cut, Daryl Dreamstone. The UFO being discovered. Or the helicopter getting tangled and launched into a hospital. or the helicopter getting tangled and launched into a hospital. Maybe because you're pretty close to the source here. Yeah, sure. I guess I should go first in that case.

What's the name of the town again? The town is called Florence in Oregon. Florence in Oregon. Seems like the kind of place where there might be a hospital tragedy. I'm going to go with the whale carcass. I think, though, I think Oregon is inland, isn't it? I don't know. I think it's on the northwestern. I'm going to go with the whale. Am I wrong saying that, Evan? I don't know. I think it's on the northwestern. I'm going to go with the whale.

Am I right in saying that, Evan? I don't know geographically where it is. I'm pretty sure. I think it's the furthest most on the northwest or it's just below. Maybe Washington is and then it's the one just below Washington State. All right. Well, I'll just give it a go. What do you reckon, Evan?

Well, see, this is tricky. I mean, I know the whale thing, that's a true thing that happened, but I don't know if it happened there and then. Yeah. That's the thing. And I don't want to say the same thing that Alistair said because there's no way to get ahead. Yeah, you want to get the double points.

Ideally. So it's a high risk. Are you trying to chase your losses? Because that's what I would have gone with if Alistair hadn't. Still another round, still another round to go. I mean, that's helping me. That's helping me. That's not what he chose. That's true. You're locked in now anyway. So. You could see if, if you think that's a point there, right?

You've got a point here and you've still got a chance to get two in the final round. But if you, if you, if it is correct, Al gets the point, you choose something else, perhaps Al's one or a house one. But maybe this isn't the right one. But I'm just saying, go with the one you think is correct would be still the best strategy. Okay, right. Says the guy that knows what the answer is.

The only problem is you've got to just have another think. Which one do you think is the correct one? And I'd pick that one. All right, so your options, the Veterans Day Parade, the blown-up whale, Daryl Dreamstein having his hair cut, the UFO being discovered, or the helicopter killing kids. Give me the parade. Oh, wow.

So you think they had the Veterans Day parade a day late due to the main street being double booked? Sure, why not? You're locking that in? That could happen. I love the ballsiness of this move. Why would Alistair think of this? I'm going against the one that I know happened.

I've seen footage. But I'm betting that that happened somewhere else or at a different day. I'm hoping that's not the case. All right, let's see who wrote the answers. So we had Marvin Connery's helicopter tangled in some power lines, killing kids. That was written by Alstair. Right.

Yeah, it's certainly not one I would ever include. No? I mean, I thought you were going to put some interesting ones in there. As a clue for future players, usually they won't include real kids dying. Sounds like something that probably will have happened at some point. Yeah. Yeah. But I would either not, I might not include that detail.

For future players, would you include stories where an adult has died? Sure. Yeah, great. They're free games. It's nice to know where the line is. They've lived a life. It's less sad. How old, like how old a teenager?

Would you do teenagers? No, teenagers. What about 19? I know that's a teen. I'm still counting that as a teen. What's the legal age on this podcast? The legal age on this podcast. In what way? Well, because like here, you know, like the drinking age is this podcast? The legal age on this podcast. In what way?

Well, because like here, you know, like the drinking age is 18, but in America it's 21, right? Right. But on this podcast, what's the legal drinking age? Yeah. Yeah. Like if you were this person, you would allow to drink on this podcast. Right.

With or without a guardian? With a guardian. Is anyone appearing on here with a guardian? And a meal? Will they be eating a meal? They're eating a full meal. They've got a guardian? With a guardian. Is anyone appearing on here with a guardian? And a meal? Will they be eating a meal? They're eating a full meal. They've got a guardian. When does a meal come into it?

I think there are some state laws in Australia where you can be 16, you can have a drink with a meal with a parent. I don't know what I'm talking about. I think that's something. Mysterious aircraft crashed in a cornfield. That was written by Evan. I thought that was a great one, Evan. Thank you.

No kids died. Yeah, that almost got me. That was written by Evan. That was a great one, Evan. Thank you. No kids died. Yeah, that almost got me. I was interested in that one. It sounded realistic, but if you don't think too much about it. Like if it actually, how would they not know? Someone's investigated this, haven't they? Yeah, right. Anyway.

Local hippie Daryl Dreamstein cut his hair. That was the house. See, I think it was the name. Well, yeah. I'd try it for most of these and you've guessed one at least. I'd try and have one of my house answers being pretty much unguessable. Sure. Yeah, yeah.

But not unguessable, just a bit of fun. But you know what? It's like because the name is silly. But then at the same time you go, well, he's from the hippie thing. You might have changed his name. The name didn't even tweak to me. I thought that didn't sound that crazy to me. I think I often, yeah, because people guess the ones I think

are unguessable all the time. And I think I just, you know, you forget that in this scenario, nothing really sounds that ridiculous. Yeah, I think that's why I've been trying to just write ones that just seem middle of the road, you know? So that means one of you is correct. Uh-oh. But it's not Evan.

Oh. The Veterans Day parade being double booked, that main street being double booked, that was the house. It was a high-risk strategy. It was. Going for the one that I knew happened. Yes, or not going for it. Yeah, not going for the one that I knew happened.

Because the one you knew happened did happen, and it happened on the 12th of November, 1970. A beach whale carcass was blown up using dynamite. So Alistair Tremblay-Purchill gets one point. The house gets one point. Quick score update here. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

So there's a beach there, obviously. It is a coast. It's not as inland as Alistair suggested it might be. There could be Oregon surfers. Yeah, yeah. You know, I think it's not too far for Dr. Frasier Crane to go. No, that's true. Kurt Cobain.

You know all these? Yeah, all these. I mean, none of them are from Oregon, but all I know is that Seattle is kind of nearby. Sure. Portlandia. A couple of states away. Maybe a couple of characters from Portlandia of course right on

they might be surfing right on man okay so the quick score update Evan Monroe Smith on two points

but out in front on five points it's ATB in the house can you believe it it's just it feels so good anyone's game I'm not normally

is it anyone's game well now it is not anyone's game because you can get two points per round, Evan, and you are now down three points going into the final round. Although, that is a good point. Occasionally, people do request triple points for the final round. You can, you know, this is more of a break. So, I could. In case of an emergency.

What am I currently on? You're on two. Right. So best case, if I request the triple. Oh, but with the triple, the maximum six. That's right. Right. Okay.

So if you get the maximum six and Al and the house get nothing, you win. Al, I don't know, but maybe you can blackball this if you like. Can I request the triple points? Yeah, sure. Well, I was going to anyway. I would love to win by a much bigger amount. Funnily enough, that is what nearly has,

I think that's happened every time. I think this has only happened twice before. I would love to at least be in the game still. That's true. It's nice to make the game anyone's game, but it does always end up with whoever's leading just winning by more. Does it nullify the whole rest of the show up until this point? No, because you've still got to make the points back.

You've got to play riskier. Yeah, okay. I think, you know, as people who live in the present, we can mistreat everybody in the past as much as we want. That's true. Including our past selves. Okay, sure. I'd pass, mate.

I'm not a fan of it. And it doesn't take long. I've said things in this episode that I'm like, that guy. Yeah. What a clown. Because if he was still here, I've got a couple of fists for him. Yeah. A couple of fist sandwiches.

And not friendly ones either. No, that's right. Not ones like where you bump. No. Very lightly. Yeah. Not at all. And not even sparring.

It's going to be an actual fight. Yes. With your face. Fists versus face. So we're up to the final question, question seven. We're now playing for triple points, meaning it's anyone's game. And the question is, we always finish with some sort of synopsis one, normally a movie synopsis, and this week is no different.

The question comes from Cheryl Dean from Huntingdon in the United Kingdom. And Cheryl's question is, what is the synopsis of the 1988 film The Lair of the White Worm? What is the synopsis of the 1988 film The Lair of the White Worm? Lair of the White Worm. Isn't that an evocative title? You know what? Like just hearing it, you know what it is. Lair of the white worm. That's a very, isn't it an evocative title? You know what, like just hearing it, you know what it is. Lair.

There's a lair. That's the English word lair. And it's not like L apostrophe A-I-R, like from the French, like to imply like the air. No, it's not that at all. You're right. It's the English lair. Okay.

More like something somewhere where a bad guy might hang out. Is that what a lair is? Or just anyone would hang out. Depends whose lair it layer it is like a white worm could be it would hang out yes maybe yeah but maybe the white worm but maybe the white worm is a guy maybe it's a metaphor oh that's like the white whale that's true is that a metaphor i thought it was actually like no that was i think it was both okay right i suppose i think it's become a metaphor right that's my white yes worm yeah you know a metaphor right that's my white yes worm yeah you know success in life that's my white worm that's right

while you're writing your answers down and i can see evans already tippity tapping away uh here's some more information about the whale explosion according to j and Stephen. A 45-foot or 13.716-metre sperm whale weighing about eight tonnes washed up on the shore and when the smell began to drive tourists away, the local highway department, which feels like the wrong department, right? If you're trying to blow up an aquatic beast, do you call in the highway patrol? You get the waterway. Yeah, sure. You get the water rats in.

Yeah. You know, Jay LaGaia. Boat. Yeah, the boat. The boat. Yeah, the guy drives the boat. The sort of the seal unit. Yeah, get the seals out.

Yeah. Either the animals or the people, the Navy SEALs. Anyway, so in this case, they've gotten the local highway department i wonder if this will go wrong uh and they chose to blow it up with approximately half a ton of dynamite i don't know as a scientist al yeah it's half a ton of dynamite do you think that would be enough for eight tons of wire what's the ratio you normally work yeah well okay when i did my my blow up my whale my sort of um aquatic mammal uh exploding course at university uh the i think it was yeah it was usually a smaller fraction because the blowing up you know it ends up doing so much blowing yeah you know and it's actually much bigger it's like it's like popcorn you know you put the corn kernels in but it actually ends up they pop right and they take up much more space

and they kind of dissolve in your gut and it doesn't kind of come out like corn normally does okay i didn't i but i did not see your answer going there you know because you know like corn doesn't digest all that well but popped corn does that'd would be insane if kernels like that still didn't digest. So there's something. And I think that's the similar thing with the explosions of mammals. I feel like I've distracted you from your writing now. If your answer somehow in the middle goes off about popcorn, you probably are going to give the game away.

It's a popcorn movie. They go on. The explosion resulted in the larger than intended pieces landing not over the ocean, as everyone had hoped, but instead raining down all over the town. I mean, it really is what you would expect if you describe blowing up. Well, now you would. Well, what. only because of this is

that that's what you would like what did they think i mean i think that what this so the idea was because i'm somewhat familiar i've seen like i've seen the footage of it it's pretty amazing but i guess the idea was to blow it up towards the sea yeah yeah um and which would obviously would be have gone fine but for whatever reason it didn. It was too much. I think it was too much explosive. Potentially. I think that might have been it. But, yeah, it's just large chunks of whale raining down. Yeah, they were just dropping everywhere.

One big chunk landed on a Cadillac, which blew out the windows. Do you think that they should have gone for the more, you know, the one that's more common in buildings, you know, the implosion? Oh, yeah. You know, they could have gone for that with the whale. What's it all blast inwards? It's collapsing on itself. And then maybe just sort of hangs out in rubble on the ground.

Yeah, in that case, you don't want to get the road patrol, highway patrol. You want to get some sort of, you know, like a building maintenance guy. Yeah, like a demolition. Like a handyman. A handyman. A building maintenance guy. Yeah, like a demolition.

Like a handyman. A handyman. All right, well, it looks like your answers are in. So here is the final question. What is the synopsis of the 1988 film The Lair of the White Worm? Here are your five options. A down-on-his-luck caretaker who makes a living by selling valuables buried with the deceased struggles to survive after the cemetery is infested with worms.

I'm only assuming white worms. We don't know that. It could only be the leader. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A low-budget knockoff of Indiana Jones following a swashbuckling grave robber named Montana Jackson. Now, I know swashbuckling is often done on the sea, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah. That's more of a pirate sort of a term. Well, I guess they had to differentiate themselves from Indiana Jones somehow. Yeah, okay. Some sort of land pirate. But there must be some land swashbuckling. Yeah. You know, like skateboarding used to be called concrete surfing.

Exactly, yeah. So it's just terrestrial swashbuckling. Maybe it's on the coast, like in Oregon. That's true. It could be, yeah, that's true. The guy could be wearing, you know, quite wet shoes. Option three, Lady Sylvia steals a mysterious skull and uses it to erotically worship her pagan god, the White Worm, a massive malevolent beast that starts murdering virgins.

Option four, after his family is swallowed, Gareth Manickety teams up with a mad scientist to defeat a slippery invertebrate terrorising his township. Or finally, an old and bitter worm lives alone in a decrepit old house. All the other worms believe it's haunted. But when a worm kid has the courage to knock on the old worm's door, a friendship is formed. And the old worm learns a few new tricks, namely love and compassion

for others but also for himself. Evan definitely wrote that one. That's beautiful. It's, I mean, five quite different films here. They, it's, yeah, I think. Is that the one that focuses most heavily on the lair aspect yeah well I mean it seems to be more

about the relationships between the two so I mean they use the lair as a vehicle to get to the human condition or worm condition yeah the lair is one

of the characters in the film I mean cinema in the 80s was a crazy time there's a lot going on back to the future back to the future 2 I mean, cinema in the 80s was a crazy time. There's a lot going on. Back to the Future.

Back to the Future 2. Rambo. Rambo 2. Yeah. I feel like any of these could be like cult. The Goonies? The Goonies 2. Do you need to hear any of those again?

What if I'll just run you through them a little quicker. Quick summary, quick summary. So you've got the down on his caretaker who's a grave robber but can't do that anymore because of the worms. I think I tried to summarise that and I said as many words as the original. The low budget knockoff of Indiana Jones, we've got the swashbuckler. Lady Sylvia, erotically worshipping a pagan god, which is a white worm,

aka a massive malevolent beast. Murdering virgins. So how does it know they're virgins? How does the white worm know they're virgins? It doesn't say it in the thing, but like also how does it, how does it, you know,

like what, what, what, like, you know, what boundaries does it use for knowing like there's something as a virgin, you know, like, does it, what, like, you know, what boundaries does it use for knowing like there's something as a virgin, you know,

like, does it, is it like full on sex? Did they have to have full on sex? Well, what do you, I mean, what do you define as full on sex?

Like full on. It's like, like if somebody is having sex with you and they're like eating a really juicy sandwich over the top of you. That is full on. You're like, Oh, it's full on.

So, yeah. So the white worm maybe has drawn the line there. Just on the side of like a juicy. Regular sex is fine. Still a virgin, obviously. But if there's sandwiches involved. Yeah. Okay. Oh, so slop it all over me.

These are sloppy Joe. I'm ready, you know. There's those teen coming-of-age films where the symbol is they've gone to Sloppy Joe's Burgeria. Is that what you call them over in North America? That's what I call them in North America. Back in Canada, that's what we called him. Then we had Gareth Manickety who had to team up

with a mad scientist after his family was swallowed or we had the old and bitter worm living alone in a what was thought

to be a haunted house but he ends up finding himself that's a good one so there's five great options yeah I'd watch

any of these films in fact I'd fund any of these really yeah any of them you get me a one pager fund any of these films. Really? Yeah, any of them. You get me a one-pager on my desk by tomorrow, I'm greenlighting all five.

Is this tomorrow when the podcast? Tomorrow when the podcast comes out. I need a couple of days to get the money together. I'm just going to see if my guy will go with this crazy scheme of mine. Steven Spielberg. Holy moly. I think of him as my guy. Yeah, right.

And he's directing the knockoff of Indiana Jones. He won't be directing. He'll be just putting up the cash. Oh, I see. I'm going to go with the virgin one. Okay. I think- So, Summit, because you thought-

You were worried that a worm wouldn't be able to tell if someone's a virgin. But that wasn't enough to put you off. No, no, no. I think the magic of cinema is sometimes a worm knows you're a virgin. Yeah, there's some supernatural. Yeah. I mean, that's the magic of life. Sometimes a worm just knows.

This worm has drawn a line. But if you think about it, this worm is also kind of a line in itself. You know what? You're right. It's a living line. All right. So the lady, Sylvia, won for Alistair. What about you, Ev?

I think I've got to go with- Yeah, if you go with the same as me, you cannot win. So you're going to have to- I have to go the high risk strategy. You've got to go hell for leather. I think for some reason- What does hell for leather mean? I don't know.

Okay. That's a question for another day. Yeah, no. I just said it. That sounds like a question for this show. What is it? Gareth Manickety or something? Ah, yeah.

What a name. Gareth Manickety. It just sounds like it could be, you know, like an 80s cult classic, like a cheesy horror, you know, I don't know. I think that, I mean, they all sound pretty silly, to be honest, but I think that one sounds. The most realistic? Maybe.

We're locking it in. It's got a bit of Honey I Shrunk the Kids about it as well. But instead of shrinking the kids, they've grown the worm. Yeah, there's got to be. It's still perspective. Back to the future, I don't know. Yeah, there's got to be a perspective. It's still perspective. I don't know. It's all about how you look at it.

All right, let's go through the answers. It's all on the line here. Anyone's game. Yeah. The old and bitter worm who lives alone in a decrepit old house. That was the house. Wow. I was sure it was Evan.

Then we had a down on his luck caretaker who struggles to make a living because the worms come by. That was Evan. That was Evan. Yeah. That was me. I mean, you would imagine most cemeteries would have a fair few worms already. Yeah. But I guess you're talking about a big.

It's only a synopsis. It's not giving the whole story. It's just like it's enough to get you interested and go, oh, worms in a cemetery. Yeah. Worm play. I wonder why they made a filmopsis. It's not given the whole story. It's just like it's enough to get you interested and go, oh, worms in a cemetery. Yeah, worm play. I wonder why they made a film about that. The low-budget knockoff of Indiana Jones, that was the house. It wasn't until rereading that I thought,

would they be squash buckling? But we talked it around. Yeah. And I was reconvinced that my own writing was okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So one of you is correct, that means. But it is not Evan because the Garrus Manickety one was written by Alistair and Alistair also got the correct answer.

So it's maximum six points to Al because Lady Sylvia steals a mysterious skull and uses it to erotically worship a pagan God, the white worm. That is a real film. There's something so funny to me about someone erotically worshiping a white worm. Yeah.

Worshiping in an erotic way. Yes. Is nice. I just imagine long, long bits of cloth on them. Yeah. I'm kind of seductively looking at the worm and going. Yeah. Probably almost moving worm. Moving. Yeah. Yeah. bits of cloth on them yeah i'm kind of seductively looking at the worm and going yeah probably almost

moving worm moving yeah yeah it's hard not to when you're squirming with horniness yeah that's hot uh that is hot that's i mean say no more i think i think horniness is a very worm-like trait yeah picture worminess and horniness. I mean, even his words, they're quite close. Yeah, and worms, they're kind of always dry humping the land. That's right. You know? Yeah. That's how they get around. Anyways, I'm sorry, Evan.

No, no. I think I need to try lower risk strategies next time. But I mean, it could have paid off. Big swings, but not much. So just give me a moment to tabulate the scores. But while I'm doing that, I'll let you know. I'm on two. Let's not jump to any conclusions.

Okay. Let me tell you a little bit more about the film. According to Cheryl, the question writer, The Lair of the White Worm is a 1988 British horror comedy, which makes a bit of sense that they're a bit lighter, loosely based on the 1911 Bram Stoker novel of the same name horror comedy, which makes a bit of sense that they're a bit light up. Loosely based on the 1911 Bram Stoker novel of the same name and drawing upon the English legend of the Lambton Worm. Are you familiar with the Bram Stoker book?

I don't think I've ever heard of it. Neither the book nor the Lambton Worm. Lambton Worm. The film was written and directed by Ken Russell and stars Amanda Donahue, Hugh Grant, and Peter Capaldi. So quite a star-studded cast. It's a decent cast, yeah. It was relatively well-received. On Rotten Tomatoes, the critics have given it a 69%.

Very erotic number. And how would a worm 69? It feels like that's tricky. Any which way. Well, because, I mean, you could probably cut a worm in half. It's 69 itself. And because, you know, they then became two worms. I don't know if that's true.

But then they could 69 them bloody selves. That's true. But I believe it's also not true. I think one half of the worm dies and the other half can live. Yeah. Something like that. But imagine trying. But imagine.

That's very erotic. Oh like that. But imagine trying. But imagine. That's very erotic. Oh, that is very erotic. I don't know if a headless worm can 69. No. But it's got a bit of a tree falling in the woods type philosophical question. Yeah, but imagine if the butt started getting very mouthy. It was a gassy worm and you go, oh, my bad, I'll still get one in. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know. A butt that doesn't quit. Yeah, a butt that won't quit. A worm butt that won't quit. So the critics seemed to like, you know, basically 69 is not a bad score on Rotten Tomatoes. No.

But Roger Ebert did not like it writing. Director Ken Russell was once and no doubt will be again, considered an important director. This is the sort of exercise he could film with one hand tied behind his back. And it looks like that was indeed more or less his approach. Brutal. That is rough. As a guy who's directed, is it difficult to do it one-handed?

I don't know if you actually need two hands to direct a film yeah you might not think that but uh evan it shows uh because rob roger abott's sitting back going it's like a one-handed effort and he's writing it with both hands holding the same pen yeah yeah he's got a two-handed backhand penmanship style. Two-handed backhand? Okay. It's a tennis pen thing. Okay. He learnt penmanship on the courts. He's got a pen like a broomstick and he holds it and he writes,

looks like he's stirring a big pot of gruel. Okay. That's Roger Abott for you. Well, he's dead now. Yeah. Oh, Evan, since we brought him up, you did look pretty angry about him having a swap at one of your directing heroes. What? Have you heard of that director?

No. Okay. All right, I've added up the scores and here they are. In third place on the podium on two points, it's Evan Munro-Smith. You did really good,an thank you in second place on five points it's the house but out in front way out in front on 11 points it's atb alicea trombley virtual i don't win normally oh you're a winner and today you're a 100% on this show. This could be my sport. This could be. We're going to have to do an episode with you and Andy because

you're both one from one. Really? It'll be a real showdown. Oh yeah, an all stars. Yeah. But I reckon you two know you would know each other too well to be able to fool each other. That would be my theory. Oh, that would be a very psychological game because I'll have to try to not write like me.

Yeah. I was surprised you two tricked each other a few times. Yeah. It's a fair bit of tricking. I failed with my cafefe. Yeah. All right. Well, you won, Al.

Thank you. You're going to go on to win in life as well. And if people want to come and watch you win, where can they do it? My goodness. You can come and watch me win during the Comedy Festival in sort of end of March, April. I'm going to do a stand-up show called Alistair Tremblay Virtual in brackets, no relation.

I love them. And the tickets are on sale. If you go to Comedy if you google comedy festival alistair trumbly virtual like that it'll come up be one of the first results as they could be the early birds getting the what worm exactly i don't think a single ticket has been sold yet so well you could be the one to get the first one get in there get it and then tag uh frankie muniz and alistair trumbly virtual in a tweet exactly how much you love sausage. Yeah. And how much you love. How much you love.

Alistair Trombo-Birchall's comedy festival show. Yeah. And having the first ticket. Yeah. Get in there. Break that ice. Isn't a sausage much like a worm? Really, it is.

It's a worm on a pan. Yeah. Worm on a plate. And then also you can get me on Twitter at AlistairT on Instagram at atromblayberchel or you can find me on the Toon Think Tank podcast with Andy Matthews, the guy who knows everything about me. And Evan Munner-Smith, where can people find you? You can find me hosting Gamey Gamey Game,

which is a YouTube show about video games, but mostly just a comedy chat panel-y show, mostly a bit of a muck around. And on the release day of this episode of this podcast, we have our last episode coming out, which is our Christmas episode, which has Alistair Tromley-Burchell and Matt Stewart. We're about to go. We're about to go record it.

Yeah. I'm going to do some sort of undercover reference back to this episode on Gamey Game. Okay. Just for the true believers. All right. Who've come across from one to the other. Yep.

Look out for it. I'm going to say white worm and Naomi's going to say, fuck you, Matt. And I won't say another word for the rest of the episode. I'm going to say, no, it's erotic. White worms are erotic. All right. Great.

I'm looking forward to that riff. Freak band riffs. Are they any better? If you enjoyed this show, go continue on and go watch Game of Game of Game. We're going to be talking about Garfield Lasagna Party, which is- Garfield loves lasagna. And hates Mondays. Almost as much as he hates Mondays.

They're the two things I know about him. What if there's any Mondays in the game? Oh, I've got to defeat defeat Monday that's the big boss at the end that would be fun that's more fun than what the game actually is and this is the one you've chosen for your year finale

yep very Christmassy topic as well people can also find me at the comedy festival this year go see Al's show come see my show it's called Ding and yeah it's me at the Comedy Festival this year Go see Al's show Come see my show It's called Ding And yeah, it's on at the Chinese Museum Nice and early I think it's on at like 6.30 or something

I'm on at like 6.30 as well Oh And we clash But we can go have dinner afterwards I'd love that Do you eat noodles? I can eat noodles Yeah, but you wouldn't

You don't normally I certainly wouldn't I think of them like worms What worms? All of a sudden I't. I think of them like worms. What worms? All of a sudden I can't stop thinking about everything like worms. I find noodles to be very erotic. Thanks so much everyone for listening. As we are still

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