Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - 63 - Alexei Toliopoulos and Josh Earl

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

Who Knew It with Matt Stewart is a comedy game show podcast hosted by Australian comedian Matt Stewart. This episode features comedians Alexei Toliopoulos (Sunburnt Screens: the Australia Cinema Odyss...ey) and Josh Earl (Four Burners Podcast)!Check out Matt's stand up special FREE on YouTube: https://youtu.be/cWStRpI-BhESupport the show via http://patreon.com/dogoonpod and you can submit questions for the show!See the podcast/Matt live: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/Check out Matt's podcast network: https://dogoonpod.com/Theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and Logo by @muzdoodles! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh my God, can you believe it? It's the year 2024. It's Melbourne Comedy Festival and we've just moved venues. We're at the Grace Darling now. We had a great run at the Chinese Museum, selling out shows by the end, but now we need you to come over to the Grace Darling and shows are at 7.15. It's going to be so much fun. Love to see you there. Let's have a beer. Use discount code DOGOON. The show's called Dry Dry at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Then we're going to Sydney and Brisbane. Tickets to all that stuff's on sale now. And you can find those tickets and details at mattstuartcomedy.com. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. Welcome to Who Knew with Matt Stewart, the show where the guests write the wrong answers. I'm the titular Matt Stewart and our first guest is host of the brand new podcast Four Burners with Josh Earle.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's Josh Earle. Hey, that's me everyone. Thanks. Hi Matt. Hi Alexi. Oh, sorry. I better not say it. Oh, no, don't reveal me. Don't reveal me. Shit, I'm hanging out behind the curtain. Edit that out. Edit that out. Shit, shit, shit. Oh God. Fuck, they, shit. Oh, God. Fuck, they're going to know who the surprise guest is.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Our second guest this week is investigative documentarian and host of the new podcast, Sunburnt Screens, the Australian cinema odyssey. It's Alexei Toliopoulos. Yay. Wow. Two kings of the format returning with brand new podcasts. What a fortuitous event this shall be I know it's like
Starting point is 00:01:45 you know when Oasis and Blue went head to head in the charts this is what we're doing that's right and I know about that from one of your
Starting point is 00:01:51 previous podcasts Josh that's how I know all about it that's why you're one of the greats of the game do you want to briefly explain
Starting point is 00:01:58 what your new pods are about go ahead Alexia I want to hear about yours Alexia you explain Josh's oh yeah no well Josh's podcast Oh, yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Well, Josh's podcast is probably a chat show of some kind. My podcast, it's an audio journey through Australian cinema. It's called Sunburned Screens, The Australian Cinema Odyssey. So each episode, I'm looking at a certain topic, era, or wave or movement in Australian filmmaking and talking to a bunch of great filmmakers and trying to unearth and rediscover films introduce people to australian cinema um it's like a big passion project of mine the first episode probably has just come out
Starting point is 00:02:37 and i'm looking at australian horror cinema because we're in like this great new wave of australian horror and so it's everything from babadook to talk to me and talking to many of the filmmakers of those films what about red dog are you covering that i've never seen it i shan't be covering a red dog at least in season one i gotta save room to get more episodes in mate well that sounds very exciting lex well done and josh you're one four burners it's some sort of chat show, is that right? It is. That's what the talk of the town is, yes. It is an interview show.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So it's based on an article I read by David Sedaris. He talked about a business theory where if you imagine your life as a four burner stovetop, one burner represents health, one's career, one's family, one's friends. You can't have them all going at once, otherwise you burn out. So you've got to turn one off if you want to be successful. If you want to be super successful, turn off two. And i i have a guest on we talk about their burners and at the end of the episode they talk about which ones they're turning off and which ones they're keeping on oh cool yeah josh i might be an interesting guest for this podcast because my stovetop
Starting point is 00:03:36 has five burners oh what's your what's your fifth one well on my stovetop it's a walk cinema it's a big walk it's fun for a big wok. So I've had two episodes out. Tom, at the time of the recording, there'll probably be a third one by the time this goes out. But it's with Gillian Cosgriff, who won the Best Comedy at the Comedy Festival last year, Best Show,
Starting point is 00:03:57 and Sammy Shah were the first two guests. Wonderful guests. So good. Yeah, I'm going to turn off all my burners apart from podcasting and just become the best podcaster of all time. Say goodbye to any friends. No health. I'll die.
Starting point is 00:04:15 You'll never talk to a family member again. I'll die this week, but, jeez, I'll die doing the best goddamn podcast ever made. So, yeah, check out their shows. The way this show works is ask a relatively obscure trivia question and our contestants have to write a convincing fake answer. I then read their answers as well as the real one and I have to guess which one is correct.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And here is the first question, which comes from Rin from London and Michael Nielsen from Signet in Tasmania. Am I saying that right? How did these two get collaborating? Well, I just happened to ask the same question. Coincidentally. Yes, that's the word. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Is Signet... Signet's a beautiful part of the world. Really, really nice. They've got a little folk festival down there. And I've heard good things about London as well, so you know, Rin, don't feel too left out so rin and michael's question is what is the definition of dapenosophist dapenosophist dapenosophist what's the definition of that and while they're writing their answers i'll explain how the scoring works so you get one point if your fake answer is guessed by the other contestant and another point if you correctly guessed the answer hey and by the way i'm also playing as the house and i've put into my own
Starting point is 00:05:33 fake answers for each question and i get a point for each one of those that our guests choose so each of us can score up to two points per round which seems fair but the probability actually favors me the house And the house sometimes wins. Did just last week for the first time in a month. Anyway, our questions come from our great Patreon supporters. And if you want to submit a question, sign up on any level via patreon.com slash do go on pod, which is linked in the show notes. Dapenosophist.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Am I saying that right? Dapenosophist. Okay I saying that right? Dapenocephist Okay Wow, sounds like a great guy Sounds like one of my cousins You've got a bit of an advantage here, I think, Lex Yeah, I think I went to school with this bloke Alright, the answers are in
Starting point is 00:06:23 So here is question number one What is the definition of dapenocephist? All right, the answers are in. So here is question number one. What is the definition of dapenosophist? Someone who uses long words to sound more intelligent than they are? A real dapenosophist, if you know what I mean. It is the term for a lover of brass instruments, an animal that is considered to be wise by human culture, such as an owl or elephant, a rare genetic mutation in the nose canal that causes
Starting point is 00:06:46 breathing difficulty while sleeping or a person skilled in table talk someone who is a master of dinner table conversation a dapenophist how do you spell this shit by the way uh no i don't you're looking it up i can tell i'm not looking're Googling. Turn my camera on right now. Tell me. Tell me. I've got my hands up. Tell me what's going on. Hands are in the air.
Starting point is 00:07:11 D-E-I-P-N-O-S-O-P-H-I-S-T. Oh, D-E-I-P. I thought it was D-A-P. Okay. Well, that changes what I was going to say is the answer. Okay. Where are you thinking? Well I thought
Starting point is 00:07:27 I thought brass instrument Because it was like The daptones And dapnosophists I thought oh Oh yeah Is that something That
Starting point is 00:07:35 But I'm going to rule that one out But that's been You know Maybe that's been bastardised over time Do you think Sharon Jones Would have had the same success If she was called
Starting point is 00:07:44 Sharon Jones The dapnosophists That would be a great name And I want Yeah I'm going to bastardize over time. Do you think Sharon Jones would have had the same success if she was called Sharon Jones the Dapnosephist? That would be a great name. And I want to, yeah, let's go back and rewrite history and have it that. That's it. Can you repeat the last two again? The last two answers?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Genetic, rare genetic mutation in the nose making breathing difficult while sleeping or someone who is a master of dinner table conversation wow which i would say you two party conversationalists yeah we should get dinner sometime the three of us i'd love to get good lord and have a little day nosophis sitting around that table having a wonderful three people withchat. Three people with bad nose. Three people that have to lie on their side to eat dinner so they can breathe. Three people with CPAP machines. I think it is the nose one.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Do I lock it in? Yeah, you want to lock it in? Yeah, I'll lock that one in. All right, great. Good call, man. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to use my bilingual skills. And the way you spelled it with K-N-O o is that how you spelled the in it k n o
Starting point is 00:08:48 the hypnosephist uh no there's no k there's no k well then i'm fucked n o s o p h i s t it is ironic that i did ask you to spell it and then i immediately stopped listening to you when you started saying it my brain just clicked on going like yeah this shit's boring what am i doing um okay i'm just gonna put a guess that it is the the wise creatures owls etc okay so i think maybe the word knowledge is in there even without the letter k and i may have fucked up but i had that thought i can't change my brain all right well uh here's who wrote the answers. Someone who uses long words to sound more intelligent than they are. That was Michael.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Okay. The house. Turned for a lover of brass instruments, which was ruled out by Josh Early. That was by Josh. I was trying to bluff. I was trying to get in there early. I may not have the camera on, but I can see right through you. An animal that is considered to be wise by human culture That was Rin
Starting point is 00:09:45 Rin So points to the house there A rare genetic mutation in the nose canal That was Alexei Oh I guess you were Alexei Let it be revealed I have sleep apnea And I was thinking about it When you said
Starting point is 00:09:59 Oh great choice Josh You were just meaning for me Because you were just giving me a point Thank you very much, Joshy So that means the correct answer is Someone who's a master of dinner table conversation There you go Which I think is such a great
Starting point is 00:10:16 I reckon if you bring up this word at a dinner table That rules you out of being this word You know what's actually pretty interesting? Deep pacifism Yeah of being this word. You know what's actually pretty interesting? Deep pacifism. Yeah. Yeah, that would make Lexi zone out just as much as spelling out a word. Yeah, I'm like, fuck me dead, mate.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I'm just looking the other way, twiddling my thumbs. If you get stuck for stuff to talk about at a dinner party, you've done through what are you watching on Netflix, what are you listening to? Yeah. The good one is, what did you have for recess as a kid in primary school wow it makes people really talk josh immediately i'm going back to my glory days as a six-year-old running the pan ball courts you know it's beautiful i'm emotional thinking about this yeah i reckon i could tell you in different stages through primary school as well. I remember early days, it was always a red delicious apple.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I still remember that rock hard sound of it hitting the tin bin. It was so hard. And a couple of biscuits. Great times. Good times, isn't it? At the start of it, if mum and dad were doing well in the teaching game that month, it'd be Monte Carlos. Did your parents get teacher wages but like on commission on commission yeah the more students uh yeah
Starting point is 00:11:30 i wonder no um you you you never taught did you work in a library i i did teach because i have a teaching degree and i didn't teach as a like a proper paid teacher but all my pre-service teaching i did like over like 20 weeks of teaching in schools. Mate, what the hell is going on? You said Josh had a hard hour. Now we're talking about recess. Then you gave him the follow-up question, did you ever teach at school?
Starting point is 00:11:56 Come on, brother. Get the show rolling. I was wondering if he got a bonus based on how many books he lent out or whatever. The guys can't need to go to the vet, and you're wasting his precious life. The listeners should know that a cat's life is on the line here. All right, question two comes from Jane from Northcote,
Starting point is 00:12:15 just up the road from us. Beautiful part of the world. Beautiful part of the world. I've heard that. Which of these is a real species of moth? So you've just basically got to come up with a name for a species of moth while you're writing your answers. Here's some more info on dapenosophists. Rin writes, no dinner party is complete without a dapenosophist.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Formed from the Greek words dapenon, meaning meal or dinner, and sophistisies meaning an expert or wise person oh geez you were you were you were so close to being on the money there lex with your greek knowledge the second half of the word did mean expert or wise or like you were saying knowledge i did know dape mint table in ancient greece or somethingpe nod. Meal or dinner. Yeah. And it made its way into the English language in the 1600s. What a beautiful journey it must have taken from Greece. The answers are in for question number two.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Here they are, Lex. The question is, which of these are real species of moth? Forgotten frigid owlet, woolly spotted silk moth, the Short Story Podcast Moth, Tinkle Bell, or Wallet Moth? Whoa. Forgotten Frigid Owlette, Wooly Spotted Silk Moth, The Short Story Podcast Moth, Tinkle Bell, or Wallet Moth? Wow. I'm going to go Wallet moth because they're similar shape. You know, they flap around. I can imagine it.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know a wallet, you unfold it and it's got two flappy wings basically. I think it's like a moth. Well, yeah, my wallet flaps around. I'm going to go the owl. Probably some dust coming out of it too, you freaking cheapskate. You've got my number.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm going to go the Owlette. Owlette. Yeah. Is that the one? That was the first one. Yeah, I've forgotten Frigid Owlette. Frigid Owlette. Owlette, the best a man can get.
Starting point is 00:14:16 That's what I always say. All right. We'll lock those in. Here's who wrote the answers. Tinklebell. That was the house. As was Wooly Spotted Silk Moth. Specifically Jane on that one.
Starting point is 00:14:29 The Short Story Podcast Moth. That was Alexi. Yeah, that's the only Moth I know, mate. Big favorite podcast form. The Wallet Moth. That was Josh Earle. Thank you, Alexi. Congratulations, Josh.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I gave extra detail, too. You want to read the extra detail? I said, name for their papery-like wings that have the same texture as American Beals. Oh, American Beals. I love the green casciola. Beals, Beals, Beals. Meaning the correct answer is Forgotten Frigid Owlette. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Oh my gosh. A full two points to Josh that round, which catapults him into the lead. Score check after two rounds. Alexi's on one. The house is on one. But out in front on two points, it'sosh earl thank you moths that brings us up to question number three which comes from lewis gemmel from glasgow and uh i pulled this one out because josh we had a lot of fun with a similar question last time you're on oh yes we had to come up with a star wars character name
Starting point is 00:15:22 i can't remember what yours was but man it i was making me laugh for a week afterwards um so this week's question is what was the name of the jedi who died defending the twi'leks in the clone wars episode supply lines very specific but basically you just got to come up with a name of a Star Wars character. And while you're writing your answers, I'll let the audience know a bit more about the forgotten frigid Owlette. According to Jane, moth names are possibly even more ridiculous than fish and birds, which we feature often on this show. She said that this one was referenced on Blue Sky recently,
Starting point is 00:16:01 but she couldn't find their username. She wanted to reference them. Yep. She tried, reference them. Yep. She tried, okay? Did her best. According to Bug Guide, the forgotten frigid owlette is found in North America. It is a knolled moth and was first described by Francis Walker in 1866. They live on stream edges, forest edges, and fields.
Starting point is 00:16:19 What a life. Great life. How long do they live for, though? Moths don't live very long, do they? They don't live long, but, jeez, they get the most out of it. Yeah. Famous for that. Squeezing every drop out of life. How long do they live for, though? Moths don't live very long, do they? They don't live long, but, jeez, they get the most out of it. Yeah. Famous for that. Squeezing every drop out of life.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I know caterpillars turn into butterflies. Do caterpillars also turn into moths? Or am I really dumb? Only if they're corrupted by the dark side. Oh, yeah. I think that's right, isn't it? I'm not sure. That's why I asked.
Starting point is 00:16:46 All right. I don't want anyone yelling at their iPods, so I'll look it up. iPods? Do you think people... I think they're furious. I saw someone, they posted they were watching Oppenheimer on their iPod, which was... Really?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah, very funny. What a clash of worlds. How Christopher Nolan would have wanted it watched. That's right. Yeah, as a cinephile Lex I imagine you probably Subscribe to that theory That it's the best Cinema's best watched on an iPod
Starting point is 00:17:14 You know what mates I've come to the realisation that You don't need to go to church to pray So you can get cinema wherever you can get it You know Yeah Caterpillars are the eating and growing stage so you can get cinema wherever you can get it, you know? Yeah, caterpillars are the eating and growing stage of butterflies and moths. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:32 There you go. So you were banging on the money there. We've got our Star Wars character names in. So here is question number three. And it's very specific, but it's, what's the name of the Jedi from Clone Wars supply lines? Died defending the Twi'leks. Is it a TV episode or what? I think Clone Wars was a cartoon TV series of Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Here are your options. Defender. Armagandai. George Lucas Scoots Magoots Jr. Or Hugo Cucumber Wow, wow, wow Wow, wow, wow
Starting point is 00:18:16 Defender Armagandai George Lucas Scoots Magoots Jr. Or Hugo Cucumber I'm going to go Armagandai Cass, Scoots Magoots Jr. or Hugo Cucumber? I'm going to go I'm a Gundy. I'm a Gundy for Josh.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Wow, okay. I mean, I think these are all very close on the ridiculousness scale, aren't they? Yes. Yes. But that is Star Wars. Yeah, that's true i i've been a big star wars fan a lot of my life and i have like quite encyclopedic knowledge of names of characters that appear only in like novels and stuff and i don't know any of these characters i've never
Starting point is 00:18:56 heard of any of them before but my guess is that it's i'm gonna go defender or whatever and i think that in the script they just call it defender and like oh we've got to come up with something better like let's just go defend or change like six letters around or whatever yeah yeah all right we'll lock that in for lex here's who wrote the answers hugo cucumber that was the house great name great name scoots mcgoods jr that was josh scoots mcgoods was the last. I searched our messages and that's what it was. Scoots Magoots. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:19:30 George Lucas. I hope I'm saying that right, Lexi. Yes. It's based on the creator of Star Wars himself, Mr. George Lucas. Defender, which Lexi went for. That was actually Lewis, a.K.A. The House Wow Meaning Josh
Starting point is 00:19:46 Once again is correct I'm a gun die I'm a gun die Wow Have you seen Kanye West Discover that Luke Skywalker And George Lucas Like he named Luke Skywalker
Starting point is 00:19:56 After himself Like there's a clip of Like Kanye West Discovering that And thinking it is The most amazing discovery Wow Of the millennium. Why George Luke?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Luke Skywalker, George Lucas. And he's like going, George Lucas, Lucas Skywalker. It's him. He's Luke Skywalker. So wait, is Skywalker named after his ranch? Skywalker Ranch? Oh my God, it's all connected. So that means, Josh, you get a point there for getting the correct answer,
Starting point is 00:20:32 and the house gets one for Lexi picking ours. So that brings us up to question number four. So I'm fucking losing, okay? Interesting. Interesting. I'm a fucking loser. I mean, if you want to hear this. I'm a fucking loser over here. Lexi's on one point, the house is on two points.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Don't bring it up, mate. That's true. On three points. It's Josh Earle. Question four comes from Sam Pears from St. Albans in the UK. I've heard nothing about St. Albans. I've heard nothing. Never mentioned.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It's as beautiful as ours. We've got a western suburb here, a northwestern suburb called St. Albans here, which is a great part of the world. A cat's life is on the line, mate, and you're talking about geographic which places relate to which? Question four is, which strange headline appeared on Sky News on the 6th of September 2023?
Starting point is 00:21:19 So you've just got to write a strange headline. Well, you know, not that strange, just an interesting headline. And while you're writing your answers, and it was from 2023, so pretty recent news. While you're writing your answers, here's a little more info about Armagandai. According to Lewis, Armagandai, pronounced Armagandai, appeared in the third series of the animated show fighting in the Battle of Ryloth. Ryloth is the Twi'lek homeworld, by the way. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I wasn't sure if you were joking or not before. You are a big Star Wars man. Yes, yes. Unfortunately, I've got a dark past. When the local forces' supplies were depleted, Di and his clone troops held off the approaching Separatist army while the Republic attempted to send more supplies. Whilst he was the victim of an unfortunate case of nominative
Starting point is 00:22:10 determinism, he did not die in vain as he held off the droid army just long enough for supplies to arrive. God bless you, I'm gonna die. And while you're still writing your answers, let's go for a quick break. And while you're still writing your answers, let's go for a quick break. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. All right, we're back.
Starting point is 00:22:46 The answers are in for question number four. What strange headline appeared on Sky News on the 6th of September, 2023? Local man runs naked into woods after ripping urinal off restaurant bathroom walls. Whoa, strong fella. Man arrested after trying to run from Florida to London in a makeshift hamster wheel. Stolen peacock leads man to play real life version of Angry Birds. Really big cow spotted in farm. Or cow mare defeated in landslide victory.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Wow, so two cow ones. Two cows. That's pretty interesting. Something in the air. That's pretty interesting. At least one of them must be true. But what's more plausible, a cow mare or a big cow? I reckon big cows sounds pretty good.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Okay, you want to lock in big cow, Lex? I might not lock it in, but I'm thinking, Josh, it might be a good idea if that could be one for you, maybe. I don't know. A big cow. Yeah. No, no, really big cow. Yeah, really big. A big cow spotted in view.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Because to me, that's newsworthy. If you see a really big cow. Yeah, really big. Really big cow spotted in fear. Because to me that's newsworthy. If you see a really big cow, you're like, holy shit, put this on Sky. How do you know if it was a really big cow or the other cows were just further away? Maybe that's what it was. Well, maybe the news story could be debunked later or... It turned out it was just for an ad. I'm going to lock in peacock. I think the angry birds, like, there's always stories
Starting point is 00:24:07 about animals getting on the loose. Yeah. Yeah. There's a website called UPI. It's pronounced YouTube. YouTube. And what they love, because I have to sometimes search for the stories for my job, they love world record attempts,
Starting point is 00:24:25 they love lottery wins. And they love bears on ring cams. Any bear that's gone near a ring cam and they got the footage of it, that's the whole website, upi.com. And, yeah, that's it. There's that one of the little kid going, I want to pat the dog. Yeah. That's a classic.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Or the other one is library books being returned after 80 years. They love those kind of stories. You'd love that too. I love it. That's the Venn diagram crossover for you. Just looking at how much they're going to have to pay in library fines. So locking in Angry Birds for Josh. What about you, Lex?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Could you give them to me again one more time? You've got the local naked man who ripped off the urinal. You've got the man arrested trying to run from Florida to London. Really big cow spot on a farm. That one's really good. I might go the urinal guy. Urinal guy? Yeah, because that's an exciting story.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Imagine a naked guy running around with a big urinal. That's cool. I want to read the story. Did he get apprehended or is he still on the run Naked forever Yeah I hope so Covered in piss I'm in Presuming
Starting point is 00:25:28 No I reckon He took his Because the urinal Like splashed back Onto his clothes So that's why he got angry He took his clothes off That has happened to me
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'll admit it It's happened to me And you know In a moment of rage I could rip all my clothes off I reckon you could And then run around With that urinal
Starting point is 00:25:44 And I imagine It's one of those Big silver ones It's a huge Huge one In a moment of rage, I could rip all my clothes off. I reckon you could, yeah. And then run around with that urinal. And I imagine it's one of those big silver ones. It's a huge, huge one. Yeah, the whole wall. I was picturing, yeah, that's interesting. I was picturing like a porcelain single-use one, but yeah. Single-use. Well, that's... That's plausible.
Starting point is 00:26:01 All right, here's the road to the answers. Cow mayor defeated in landslide victory That was Josh Earle Where his really big cow spotted in Farmer's Alexi So you're going to have to have some cows That's what I call us, I call us the cow twins Have some cows Yeah, have a bit of milk with my brekkie this morning Maybe that's what I was thinking about
Starting point is 00:26:19 Have a splash in my coffee Stolen peacock, real life angry birds That was Sam, aka The House. Oh, you got me, Sam. Sam also wrote the one about ripping a urinal off a bathroom wall. Points there. Two points for The House. I mean, the correct answer was man arrested after trying to run from Florida to London
Starting point is 00:26:38 in a makeshift hamster wheel. That's interesting. I was thinking about the hamster wheel, the TV show that the Chasers guys did for a minute. What was that? I don't remember that show. It was just called Hamster Wheel. That's interesting. I was thinking about the Hamster Wheel, the TV show that the Chasers guys did for a minute. What was that? I don't remember that show. It was just called Hamster Wheel. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I also have encyclopedic knowledge of ABC shows. Hamster Wheel. That does ring a bell. But that was like a politics show or something. Oh, yeah, probably. Or an advertising or something. It would have been named... Or Spin.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Maybe it was Spin. Skewering Aussie politics. They were skewering something. With their cheeky university charm. All right, we're up to question number five now. This comes from Paul McNally from Waterford in Ireland. The question is, which of these is the title of a controversial Sesame Street segment that never aired? Which of these is the title of a controversial Sesame Street segment that never aired. Which of these is the title of a controversial Sesame Street segment that never aired? While you're writing your answers, here's some more info
Starting point is 00:27:32 about this article. And by the way, Sam writes, Florida man could be a new category for this show on its own. If you Google Florida man on any date, you're pretty much guaranteed a crazy headline. It's a hot tip for anyone looking for questions to write. Anyway, the article reads, A Florida man who tried to run across the Atlantic Ocean to London using a makeshift hamster wheel has been arrested. Reza Baluchi, 44, was spotted about 70 miles off Georgia by the U.S. Coast Guard and allegedly claimed he wanted to keep going all the way to the U.K. on the 26th of August. According to court documents, the Coast Guard judged the
Starting point is 00:28:06 makeshift boat was manifestly unsafe and kept afloat by buoys and wiring. His voyage began just days before Hurricane Franklin, a Category 4 storm at its peak, which hit parts of the Caribbean. But Mr Bellucci refused to step off the vessel for three days until officers managed to safely extract him and bring him back to shore two days later. Bellucci informed the Coast Guard officers that he had a Florida registration on board his vessel, but he was unable to locate it. He also advised the Coast Guard his intended destination was London. Officers remained on the scene, and on the next day, the 27th of August, Mr. Bellucci allegedly threatened to blow himself up. There's a twist.
Starting point is 00:28:50 The Coast Guard said they believed this to be a valid threat and according to court documents, he was holding wires in his hand. This prompted officers to call the bomb disposal experts before he admitted the threat was a hoax on the 28th of August, shortly after officers tried to deliver food and water. On the 29th of August, officers brought Mr. Bellucci off the vessel and into a small boat and took him ashore on the 1st of September. This marked the end of Mr. Bellucci's latest run-in with the Coast Guard, with previous incidents involving a similar homemade vessel in 2014, 2016 and 2021. The man is committed. To... To running across the ocean. And if he's lucky, committed to Monica Bellucci as well.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I mean, one of Hollywood's most beautiful women. One of my mum's ex-boyfriends tried to sail around Tasmania and he raised money for charity and had a big bon voyage thing and then two hours later ran aground but then had to be rescued but didn't have any water on board and he was meant to go on board and didn't take any water with him. He's no longer with my mum, so don't feel bad for laughing about him. He was an idiot.
Starting point is 00:30:06 But why would he take water? He'd be surrounded by it. Water, water everywhere. Let's all take a drink. But yeah, it was fun. It was fun to talk about him. Going, fucking idiot. Great memories.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Now, what would he have for recess? That's what I'm interested in. Well, if you were going to teach about that In a Sesame Street segment What would it be called I wonder Oh that's funny That brings us to question number five Oh my god what a host
Starting point is 00:30:33 Which of these is the title of a controversial Sesame Street segment that never aired Some dads go to jail The count finds a mysterious package Elmo meets his new dads Taking it to the can With Oscar the Grouch Some dads go to jail. The count finds a mysterious package. Elmo meets his new dads. Taking it to the can with Oscar the Grouch. Or Snuffy's parents get a divorce.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, what are you thinking? I'm going to say taking it to the can by Oscar the Grouch. And what do you picture this segment to be about? It's like a talk show. Oscar hosts a talk show. And they were going to have guests and it never happened. Okay. Yeah. Taking it to the can.
Starting point is 00:31:13 What about you, Lex? Oh, gosh. I'm trying to think. Snuffleupagus I don't think would have parents. So I don't think they'll get divorced. I don't think you would ever meet their parents These people Right Do you know why
Starting point is 00:31:26 Can you Yes I know why Stuff will up in this I know it We're gonna do a I wanna say it No I keep my
Starting point is 00:31:34 I keep my microphone My headphones out He Do you know why he Started off being imaginary And then they made him real No Yes
Starting point is 00:31:41 Because kids could keep secrets From their parents. Yeah. And so Jim Henson was like, no, no, we want people to be able to believe kids when he's telling them something and not to say it's all just made up. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Oh, that makes sense. I'm glad Jim figured that one out. Yeah. What were they again, Matt? Some dads go to jail. The Count finds a mysterious package. Elmo meets his new dads. Taken to the can with Oscar the Grouch
Starting point is 00:32:05 or snuff his parents, get a divorce. I'll go the first one. All right. The jail. Locking that in for Alexei. All right. Here's who wrote the answers. The Count finds a mysterious package.
Starting point is 00:32:20 That was Paul in the house. A real collab there. Paul had written, The Count finds a pack of cigarettes. In my head, I was making it marijuana, but it did not translate to that. Yes, like black tie heroin I was making. Yeah, I was thinking coke. Okay, great. All right, well, as long as you had drugs on your mind.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Elmo meets his new dad. That was the house. I thought that's the kind of thing That I would have thought Oh this is a positive message to have And then someone got in the way Some dads go to jail Which Lexi went for That was Josh
Starting point is 00:32:57 Great work Josh Thanks Lexi Taking it Great work Taking it I misread it Lex And he's still over it. Taking it in the can with Oscar the Gramp.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Well, I wouldn't have guessed that one. Josh, remember that? That was the one. So I was thinking taking it to the can. It was like a chat show, Oscar the Gramp. Almost like a Between Two Ferns. Right. Like a Tom Gleeson.
Starting point is 00:33:23 The host is mean to them. Yeah, you may have saved me by saying you're wrong the first time. Which means the correct answer is Snuffy's parents get a divorce. Whoa. But in this round, you each give yourself a point. Oh, thanks, Alexi. You're welcome, mate. With just two rounds left, it's Alexi on two, but Josh in the house on four points.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Here is question number six. Comes from Stevie Jepsen from Lower Hutt, New Zealand. Lower Hutt. Lower Hutt. My favorite Star Wars character. What happened in New Zealand that made news on the 1st of November 2021? What happened in New Zealand that made news on the 1st of November 2021. What happened in New Zealand that made news on the 1st of November 2021? Again, Josh with his quirky news knowledge
Starting point is 00:34:10 while they're writing their answers. Here's a bit more info about that Sesame Street segment. According to Paul, Sesame Street has covered lots of controversial topics, some with praise, such as Cammy, who is a HIV positive character who first appeared in 2002 on the south african version of the show before appearing on the u.s version in 2011 and 2015 others were definitely not successful such as the wicked witch of the west who terrified children
Starting point is 00:34:37 with her guest appearance in 1976 this episode aired once and never again i saw that she came on because kids were scared of her all the time The actor who played the Wicked Witch Yep And the idea was to humanise her And say she's not She came on without make-up and stuff And kids are still scared
Starting point is 00:34:54 It breaks my heart Were you ever scared of any things as a kid Like from TV shows? Wicked Witch of the West She gave me nightmares When I was little For sure I was scared of the song Yell-A
Starting point is 00:35:03 That's used in Ferris Bueller, that bom-bom-chka. Oh, yeah. Made you feel weird. I mean, that's a powerful song. Bom-bom-chka. I was really scared of Joseph Fritzl. I think that one's slightly less irrational than ours.
Starting point is 00:35:28 You've got your answers in, so I don't really need to read about it, but there's more information about it. It was back in 92 when they tried to put together the Snuffies divorce episode, but they tested it on kids, and the kids got freaked out. They all thought their parents were going to get divorced and this sort of stuff, so they sort of got spooked from airing it. And also because they said it was Snuffy's fault. Yeah, it was, you know, progressive for 92.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But all right. So the answer for question six, what happened in New Zealand that made news on the 1st of November 2021? Here are your options. 2021. Here are your options. The Canterbury A&P show was evacuated after a mysterious caped figure was seen hovering over the main stage, which turned out to be the mascot for a betting company.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Due to an online campaign, a mammal won New Zealand Bird of the Year. The ratio of sheep to humans passed 10 to 1 for the first time. A really big cow was seen in a field, or really humongous cow spotted in farm in Auckland. So there's a couple of cow ones. That's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Must be one of those ones then. Isn't that amazing? What are the odds? Who guesses the first last one? I think I did You go I'm going to say that mammal won the bird of the year Because New Zealand's obsessed with their bird of the year Every New Zealand person I know
Starting point is 00:36:57 They're going Wow I can't wait for bird of the year I'm like okay mate There's other big things going on It's pretty big here as well They just had john oliver uh do a do a stunt what made the bird of the century win oh wow really yeah i'm guessing it was the bird from fucking the lion king remake that he voiced selfish little man it was that i
Starting point is 00:37:18 think it's the ticket piku something like that i don't know how to say it an actual new zealand bird though yeah yep i'm gonna guess it was sheep outnumber them, 10 to 1. All right, locking that in for Josh. Here's who wrote the answers. The betting company mascot shutting down the show. That was the house, which is funny because we were talking about stunts before. Similar. I was ahead of the game there.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Snoop Dogg style. Really? Big cow was seen in a field that was josh earl a really humongous cow spotted in farm in auckland that was alexi always one better the ratio of sheep to humans passed 10 to 1 for the first time josh went for that that was the house meaning the correct answer was due to an online campaign a mammal won the new zealand bird of the year award Meaning the correct answer was, due to an online campaign, a mammal won the New Zealand Bird of the Year Award. Whoa. I heard it was a really big cow, that one. It was a really big cow. So that means one point to Josh, one point to Alexi.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Am I right in saying that? No, one point to the house, one point to Alexi. No, Josh guessed my one. He guessed really humongous cows spotted in farm in Auckland. That brings us to the final question. You know what? I'm going to bow out. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I'm going to go. No worries. It's been a pleasure, Alexi. Wow. I got offended by the big cow stuff. I can't stay. It's okay, Matty. I understand. Do you want to lock in number one to five? Four.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Okay. Mark, if he wins, you're going to have to take me to the vet. So Josh has to, and that was, this is exactly when he said he had to go. And I didn't quite nail the timing on this one. Listeners at home, apologies for that. We've never had a... Oh, no, this is the second time. No, no, this is the first time we've ever had a contestant leave mid-show.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And with only one other contestant in, it's going to be fascinating to see, Alexi. It really feels like you are coming back from last place here. Quick score update. Going into the final round. Alexi's on three points. Josh is on four points. But out in front on five points, it's the house.
Starting point is 00:39:33 But Alexi, got to remember, this is just for you. You get triple points for the final round. Okay. Problem is, oh no, Josh did in a he put he did he did make a guess so um he might guess yours but really there's not a huge advantage for you writing a believable one here um i could i mean i could call maybe i'll call him on the phone and get him to do another guess all right here is the final question lex comes from harris the question is what is the final question, Lex. Mm-hmm. Comes from Harris. The question is, what is the synopsis of the 1980 film The Apple?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, wow. Interesting. Let me write my answer. So while Lex is writing his synopsis for the 1980 film The Apple, here's some more information about that controversial bird award. So the winner was the long-tailed bat or the peka peka toroa. Peka peka toroa. And according to Steve, it was the first time the long-tailed bat had been included in the competition. And it was a super controversial move.
Starting point is 00:40:40 They haven't been included in any following year's competitions at the time of writing. Stevie's favourite quote from the Forest and Bird press release, Forest and Bird, this is the organisation that put the award together, this is from their press release, after a two-week campaign that nearly broke the internet and turned friends against one another, the peka peka to Aurora, or a long-tailed bat was the winner the bbc covered the story writing a bat has been named as new zealand's bird of the year in a controversial move that has ruffled feathers oh this article is going to be full of puns i think the long-tailed bat has has swooped in to clinch the title in an online poll contest
Starting point is 00:41:24 organizers had included the bat, one of the country's few land-based native mammals, to raise its profile as a critically endangered species. But the victory has annoyed some, with one commentator saying the country had gone batty. That's good stuff. Outrage bird lovers cried foul on Twitter. It doesn't stop calling it a total farce,
Starting point is 00:41:46 a stolen election, as well as more colourful and unprintable terms. In apparent defiance of the laws of scientific taxonomy, Forrest and Bird had decided to include the land mammal for the first time this year, saying they face similar challenges as birds. The long-tailed bat, also known as the peka peka to Aurora, and is only the size of a thumb, that's freaking cute as. Really tiny. A thumb is one of the smallest parts of my body. A thumb. Well, one of.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Thumb-sized. Thumb-sized bat. That's adorable. Yeah. It's also one of the most adorable parts of your body, Lex. Thumb-sized bat? That's adorable. It's also one of the most adorable parts of your body, Lex. One of. I'd say so. Oh, God, we have a good time, mate, when we hang out.
Starting point is 00:42:44 So the thumb-sized bat beat a flightless parrot to win the title, jeez, I hope you feel good about yourself, bat, this flightless parrot sitting there, actually eligible for the award, must be furious, more than 56,700 people cast their votes, with more than 7,000 for the bat, and just over 4,000 for the kakapo, which won the contest last year okay i don't feel so bad it won last year or the year before anyway this is not the first time the contest has flown into controversy they're still doing it in 2019 hundreds of votes were found to have come from russia sparing fears of voter fraud why would russia want to interfere with a bird competition. How deep does this conspiracy go, mate? How deep?
Starting point is 00:43:28 Organizers later determined that they were likely to have come from Russian bird lovers instead of hackers intent on manipulating the vote. That's so funny that just the idea of Russian people puts fear in a people. Why are Russian people voting in this bird thing it must be a conspiracy oh russia has bird lovers as well huh yeah they can like birds over there too did you know that the russians can love birds too that's what sting sung about all those years ago i'm gonna i'm gonna write one for josh as well okay okay if you can fall into my trap. I'm going to write it right now.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Wow, seven versus three houses, mate. Interesting. No, no, but this one, if you guess it, you will go to the Josh, not the house. Okay. All right, Lex. The answers are in. Whoa, okay. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:44:20 This is unprecedented. We've never finished a game like this before. This is unprecedented. We've never finished a game like this before with the second place competitor just fleeing to save his cat, mind you. The cat comes first. The cat's got to come first. I should say to listeners that it's not a life-threatening cat issue,
Starting point is 00:44:45 but it is an important bit of cat maintenance. And we had some technical difficulties before we started recording, which squeezed us right out. And I blame Stupid Old Studios for that. And personally, I would say if you're looking for a place to record podcasts, Stupid Old Studios is not the place to go. Wow, I would disagree. I've had recorded great podcasts there.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So, you know, we're both on different sides in history, but that's interesting. No, look, actually, you've brought me around. Stupid Old Studios is the best, and they were very helpful fixing it up. And I'm also a director here, so I'm slightly conflicted, and I probably should be more positive.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I reckon you shouldn't have screamed at the engineer that was trying to fix this. Well, what do you do when you're furious? I just take it out on myself. Should I become physical? No, no, I go home and scream at my family. That's what I do. Your cat. Yeah, yeah. I don't like animals mate
Starting point is 00:45:47 not enough to scream at him anyway all right so here is the final question what is the synopsis of the 1980 film the apple and this is where triple point's gonna remember lex okay okay back in the early days of apple inc steve jobs Jobs and Steve Wozniak made a sex comedy in the style of Animal House and The Nutty Professor that showed how the Apple computer could make anyone a ladies' man. After a disastrous preview showing, Steve Jobs burned all copies. And I'm assuming that doesn't mean, like, you didn't burn DVDs, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:24 That's why I've burned a few copies in my life. That's option one. And I'm assuming that doesn't mean like you didn't burn DVDs to share with more people. I've burned a few copies in my life. That's option one. Then you've got a three-hour long biopic. Do you say biopic or biopic? I say biopic. Yeah, same. I don't say biography.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I don't say it like that. Some people do say biopic, though, which just makes it sound like an eyesight thing. Biopic sounds like, yeah, like just makes it sound like an eyesight thing. Yeah, like you're getting your eye surgery or some shit. Biography picture. Biopic. Well, there's some people at home having their minds blown right now, just realising they've been wrong their whole lives.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yep, and continue to do so. A three-hour-long biopic of Jonathan Chapman, better known as Johnny Appleseed. The film presents a revisionist history take on the late 18th slash early 19th century America. Chapman callously murders anyone who looks at his apple seeds. And many do look.
Starting point is 00:47:18 It was widely panned. Okay. So we've got two movies that weren't loved a lot so far. Option three, a worm lives inside an apple. He is keen on a life outside of it. But when he moves to New York City, also known as the Big Apple, the worm, named Gregon Scallops, misses his small town apple life. But once he returns, he realizes that life is worth living
Starting point is 00:47:47 whatever the size of the apple you're dealt. As a cinephile or any of these, grabbing your attention? Yeah, they're all pretty interesting. Yep. Then we got, this is option four. In this science fiction musical set in a futuristic 1994, a young couple is tempted by sex, drugs,
Starting point is 00:48:26 and an evil music label. They think they're competing in the World Vision Song Contest, Or finally, is really big is life changes when journalists from Sky News and New Zealand pick up the story. Okay. So, it's interesting. There's one cow one at least. Yeah, there's only one cow one this time. That's interesting. That is interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Do you think that means... Because when there were two cow ones, they weren't right. So, maybe now that there's only one cow one, that suggests that it is right i think it could be it could be i'm tempted by it honestly i'm tempted by it um but you are you are a big cinephile lex i am a big cinephile have you have you heard of this film i've seen this movie yes i've seen the apple um it's from Canon Films by Golan and Globus, two interesting producer filmmakers.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And I saw it most recently, the 12th of April 2020. So it is somewhat fresh in my mind. And it is about Steve Jobs and Wozniak? Not at all, mate. Not at all. I'm going to read my review to help jog my memory of what it is there's nothing i adore more than when a film envisions a far-off vision of the future and the year they pick is in the distant dystopia of the 1990s only 14 years away from the film's
Starting point is 00:49:39 production this is the platonic ideal of that very thing, and it is also a freaking disco musical. So I'm going to lock in the science fiction musical one. All right. Locking that in for Lexi. Believe it or not. And which one did Josh pick? Josh also locked that one in. Oh, fuck me dead, mate.
Starting point is 00:50:00 He said. You could have put it in any order. You chose to ruin your best friend who decided to stick around i just started to stand by you mate i know but i just it was just the order that it was in i shuffle them pre-game and leave your slots open for you to put them in i've got a cat bleeding out on my on my floor right now because I chose you over the vent. And you fucked me over, mate. You fucked me over.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Actually, because I normally can do, and I will in this case, give you a chance at three bonus points. Oh, God. Normally that would be you guessing Josh's answer, but he didn't write one. So you've got to guess which one I wrote with a minute's notice.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Oh, God. Well, you know, I'll tell you. During this, having already knowing what the correct answer will be and barely writing one myself, I didn't even listen to the other options. Well, let's go back to them quickly Your one Was about Marcus the cow Who's really big Yes so we can rule that one out
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah I didn't listen to those I heard the Wozniak one About Steve Jobs and Wozniak Then we had one about Johnny Appleseed And then the other one was about A worm who lives inside an apple But then moves to New York City also known as the Big Apple And this worm named Appleseed. And then the other one was about a worm who lives inside an apple, but then moves to New York City, also known as the Big Apple. And this worm named Greg and Scott.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I'm going to go for the worm one, mate. I think that's the kind of thing that a guy can pull out in a minute when he hears the word apple. There was no apple worm. There was too much going on there. And Johnny Appleseed, I don't think your brain would think of Johnny Appleseed. I don't know what Johnny Appleseed means, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But I think you would go Appleworm. That's the connection your mind might go. And you are correct. Alright. So, that means... The other ones that you put in, they only sound like they could be cartoons. I think your brain thinks in cartoons.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, I think that's fair. Alright. Well, okay, I think that's fair. All right. Well, okay, I'll tabulate the scores in a second. Before you read your review, do you want me to read a couple of review snippets to you, Lex? Of course, yes. So, on Rotten Tomatoes, critics gave it 27%. The audience liked it more at 48%.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And what do you think of yourself as, more audience or more critic, Lex? I'm myself, mate. I'm myself, you know? I align with how I want. But, you know, I'm probably more critical mind because I cannot watch a film without feeling studious. Right, of course.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Because it must be tricky because everyone's, all critics start off as just film fans, I would think. Yes, of course. Everyone's a film lover. So I've got a snippet of a positive review and a snippet of a negative review. And then we'll get yours for the definitive answer. So this is from, this is a more positive one from Austin Trunick. He writes, part biblical allegory, part 1984, and entirely one of the best camp musicals ever committed to film.
Starting point is 00:53:08 The Apple features incredible Busby Berkeley-esque dance numbers and some of the best sci-fi fashion of the 1970s. Do you know what Busby Berkeley is? Yes, Busby Berkeley, he was a choreographer in the early days of musicals. That makes sense. So, you know, when you imagine musicals like Black and White from the early era of cinema, there's like, we're in the money, we're in the money, and you've got all these ladies in a line, and they're doing quite extravagant moves. Maybe they've got big props of big coins and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:53:45 But it's almost more about where the camera is moving than where the people are moving. Right. It's not just one big locked-off shot. Is it like that scene in Annie where they go to the movies and there's a big dance scene before it? I don't remember. I don't know Annie very well.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Let's go to the movies. You don't know Annie? Not that well. I've seen it. It's a movie and in that movie they go to the movies. I really thought know Annie? Not that well. I've seen it. That's a movie, and in that movie, they go to the movies. I really thought that would be right up your alley. But, yes, BuzzFeed Berkeley was a choreographer that moved the camera more. It was more about the camera than just doing impressive stunt dancing.
Starting point is 00:54:29 stunt dancing yeah i think i if if if a musical or dance movie reference can't go through my filter of the the movie annie about the little orphan then i'm lost oh we're lost we're lost uh so the negative uh review came from jason bailey it's amazing these two are about the same film uh he hated it writing the apple is the kind of nutty project that bad movie love is all about. It's clearly the product of a singular, insane vision, unperturbed by any notion of good taste, good sense, or good storytelling. Wow. Hey, when was that Jason Bailey review? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Why, has he ripped you off? No, no, no. If it's the Jason Bailey that I'm thinking of, I really like him. He's one of my favorite writers. Let's see. Why, has he ripped you off? No, no, no. Are you worried that you've been- If it's the Jason Bailey that I'm thinking of, I really like him. He's one of my favorite writers. Oh, right. There you go. So, Jason Bailey wrote his review for Flavor Wire in 2017.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I think it's a Jason Bailey that I like. He wrote a great book called Fun City Cinema about movies made in New York. But you two don't see eye to eye on this one. That's okay, mate. That's okay. He's not lost a fan and a follower and perhaps a colleague. He's, I still respect the guy, you know, you can't always agree. All right, Lex, it's time for the final score check.
Starting point is 00:55:40 In third place on five points, it's The House. In second place- Suck shit, mate. Suck shit, The House. On seven points, in five points, it's The House. In second place- Suck shit, mate. Suck shit, The House. On seven points, in absentia, it's Josh Earle. Whoa. See, he's a guy, he knows about the four burners, right? And he's happy to turn, he'll turn his-
Starting point is 00:55:57 The vet burner up. The vet burner up. The podcast burner is down. And I think he's probably got that right. But that means out in front with a huge final round on nine points, it's Alexei Toliopoulos. Yowza, yowza, yowza. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Great to be victorious under any circumstances. You know, this is the first time I've had you on, and I didn't get Cam James to suggest a movie, and you you knew it so i um i was proved foolish here i need to go to cam james every time you're on just to make sure he would have said the apple you can't do the apple yeah i think we even watched it together it was during one of the lockdowns and it was me cam henry stone a few buddies. We would sync up watching movies. Oh, that's lovely. And usually little oddities like that.
Starting point is 00:56:48 So I think Apple was one of those. I think Greg Larson might have watched along with us. Bloody hell, what a brains trust that was. Some of the greatest minds in Australian cinema. Yeah, all fried watching this crazy disco musical. Love it. Before we... At the end of the show, for new listeners, we'll have it uh before we at the end of the show for new listeners we'll have some outtakes at the end and some of it will be really funny stuff uh but
Starting point is 00:57:11 before we get to that lex just want to explain one more time your new pod yeah so sunburned screens the australia cinema odyssey is a new podcast from me uh it is basically a journey through the landscape of Australian cinema. I'll be celebrating classics, unearthing rare cinematic rediscoveries, and having conversations with some of Australia's greatest filmmakers. I'm talking about Gillian Armstrong, Rolf de Heer, the Spearig brothers, Brian Trenchard-Smith, Anna Kokkinos, Natalie Erica James, Goran Stolewsski, amongst many others.
Starting point is 00:57:45 You're really rubbing shoulders, aren't you, now, with the big dogs? With the ginormous cows of Australian cinema. I'm there catching with them, talking about their movie, celebrating cinema wherever I can. It's really cool, and it ties into Brolly, this new streaming service from Umbrella Entertainment that is free, and alongside each podcast episode, I'm putting together a curated selection of films that tie into that episode.
Starting point is 00:58:14 The episode's a great way to be introduced. Then you can go watch some movies and enjoy your life in cinema from there on broly.com.au. Gillian Armstrong made the 90s Little Women. She did indeed. She did indeed. Iian Armstrong made the 90s Little Women. She did indeed. She did indeed. I saw that at the cinemas, I believe. Far out.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Man, she's one of my favourite filmmakers of all time. Like, I really, I was so excited to talk to her, and it was like a bit of a dream come true, to be honest. And she sent me a really nice email after saying, like, what a great interview it was, and it was great to actually be interviewed by a great film buff that really gets it. Oh, that's so nice. I love to hear that.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah, it was sick. And she signed my Daybill poster for Starstruck, my favorite movie of hers. Wow. What movie? Because it looks like that's the only one of hers I've seen. Because I'm embarrassingly not a huge cinephile. I like watching movies, but I'm a bit of a- Yeah, it's rather uncouth of hers i've seen because i'm embarrassingly not a huge cinephile i like watching movies but i'm a rather uncouth of you i know i like i don't i like watching movies but i i don't i don't know if i'm as good at it as you are i mean who is of course i know definitely not
Starting point is 00:59:18 no very few people mate but if i would give you one more recommendation. Um, star struck is really great. Really fun. Like a really fun musical set in Sydney, beautiful Sydney. Uh, and last days of Shane new is going to be on Broly, which is a really kind of like naturalistic, but melodrama set in Sydney. I really love last days of Shane new.
Starting point is 00:59:40 That's those are probably my favorite films from her. Oh, that's awesome. I think. Oh, and high tide is awesome with, um, awesome. Oh, and High Tide is awesome with young Claudia Carver and Judy Davis. I love High Tide.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I think you would actually really like High Tide, Matt. Okay, great. Well, I'll start with High Tide. Yeah, you will like it. I'm just looking at her filmography here. She's got quite a few to work through and many awards, many, many awards. One Best Director at the AFIs
Starting point is 01:00:06 For High Tide Oh no I was nominated sorry But it's just an honour to be nominated That's what she would say too Won for my brilliant career Thanks so much for joining us Lex Anything else you need to tell people before we go Please listen to Sunburned Screens
Starting point is 01:00:21 It is a beautiful podcast I care a lot about oh thanks so much for joining us it's always the best to have you on lex and my pleasure mate thanks everyone for listening please give us a five star review uh i i think that'd be nice no problems if you don't want to but i've been getting some really nice ones and i read them all and they make me feel nice on the inside of my body. Tell your friends if you think you know anyone who might enjoy this show. I hope to make you feel nice on the outside of your body one day, mate.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Cheers for tuning in to Who Knew With Matt Stewart. Now that you know it, I've been Matt Stewart. Goodbye. I've been hearing the birds from Sydney. I know. Alexi's in the country. We got those magpies, mate. We got those magpies calling out for me. They're asking for their brekkie.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I go out and feed them a little bit of mince. Am I listening to Alexi or am I watching an episode of Neighbours? The transitions, they always have a bit of a magpie call. A little magpie. Yeah, I go down on my balcony, throw them little bits of mince, chuck it to them, have a little bit for myself. Apparently people say that magpies can remember a hundred different people. Yep.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yep. It's quite good. Yep. But also the exact same people that win the Logies and Arias of the year, you know. They don't care about the little guys like us. You were at the Arias, Alexei. I was, mate.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I was. How was that? It was awesome. What were you there for? I learned about music. I'm really famous. Yeah. They said we want all the famous people to come.
Starting point is 01:01:59 For international listeners, Josh, the equivalent to America or England, what are they? If you combine the Grammys and the Oscars and the Brits, about halfway to what an ARIA is worth. It's an EGOT in one. Yeah, it's the Music Awards, yes. The big pointy trophies too. What a beautiful trophy. And you know they're worth something because TISM won too one year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:22 That's how important they are. Yeah. Yeah, Jet One, Legacy Act. They won Hall of Fame. That was pretty cool. something because uh tism won too one year yeah that's how important they are yeah yeah jet one legacy act they won hall of fame that was pretty cool did they this week yeah i went to well they went to my school before i was there but still whoa so hey brushed with fame there might have been in the walk down the same halls as jet good good luck for those local magpies remembering you if they knew who Jet was. Not much room for Matt Stewart. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I really- If it's the Jason Bailey that I'm thinking of, I really like him. He's one of my favourite writers. I can tell you in a second. You want to read your one? I read it already. Do you want me to read it again?
Starting point is 01:03:01 Did I not hear you read it? Yeah, yeah. It was when I was giving my answer. I have no memory of that at all. It was when I was giving my answer. Sorry. Yeah. And was it positive?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, four stars from me, mate. Four stars from me. I love this kind of movie that's set in the future, but the future's only like 15 years away. That's basically what i said yeah great this is a this feels like lex has got an advantage i think in the movie questions but weird news as a as a project worker i do work on tvs the project news delivered differently yes so quirky stories are up your alley uh what did we what have we talked about
Starting point is 01:03:47 this week that i worked on um oh look it was one of those do you know how snoop dog came out and said he's no longer he's no longer chasing the smoke he's no longer doing the smoke it was an all ad he's now signed on to some smokeless kind of barbecue thing and when it came across the news desk and i was like this is an ad there's no way that this is true like right no no it's it's and we did it and then two days later it was like hey he's just released his new smoke-free fire pit of course amazing how we're so desperate i say we but you know people are so desperate for these stories yeah and there's so many outlets that need them and almost don't really care no it's like we, but, you know, people are so desperate for these stories. Yeah. And there's so many outlets that need them and almost don't really care. No.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It's like we get the clicks, you get the ads. It doesn't matter. We all win. But, yeah, that is so funny that you're like, this is definitely. Yeah. It was like M&M's getting rid of their other spokes candies. Yeah. And it's like, well, this is leading to a super bowl ad for
Starting point is 01:04:46 sure yeah and sure enough i think it did it was yeah yeah i always like when like the news 24-hour news cycle have to come up with stuff and the fox news like when they're angry about the green m&m's no longer sexy or whatever it was like they're actually having to argue like oh what's happened this is like now she's not wearing pumps. She's wearing flat shoes. Like, who gives a shit? How sexy did you find her before? Extremely erotic. One of the most erotic creations.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I like my women like I like my candy. Spherical and shiny. You'll like this, Alexei. So the other week I tried to watch Who Framed Roger Rabbit with my family. And you had to leave the room for a few minutes or something. My youngest kid, as soon as Jessica Rabbit came on, he said, oh, no, I'm not into this. I think it was too much for him.
Starting point is 01:05:35 The sexiness of the rabbit was like, I feel weird watching this with my dad. Sorry, Dad, I can't see the movie through my fogged up glasses. Oh, God. Yeah.

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