Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - 64 - Dave Warneke and Brydon 'The Shark' Coverdale

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

Who Knew It with Matt Stewart is a comedy game show podcast hosted by Australian comedian Matt Stewart. This episode features trivia superstar and 'the Shark' from The Australian Chase Brydon Coverdale and host of Do Go On and Book Cheat, Dave Warneke!Check out Matt's stand up special FREE on YouTube: https://youtu.be/cWStRpI-BhESupport the show via http://patreon.com/dogoonpod and you can submit questions for the show!See the podcast/Matt live: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/Check out Matt's podcast network: https://dogoonpod.com/Theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and Logo by @muzdoodles! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh my God, can you believe it? It's the year 2024. It's Melbourne Comedy Festival and we've just moved venues. We're at the Grace Darling now. We had a great run at the Chinese Museum, selling out shows by the end, but now we need you to come over to the Grace Darling and shows are at 7.15. It's going to be so much fun. Love to see you there. Let's have a beer. Use discount code do go on the show's called dry dry at the melbourne international comedy festival then we're going to sydney and brisbane tickets to all that stuff's on sale now and you can find those tickets and details at mattstuartcomedy.com welcome to who knew with matt stewart the show where the guests write the wrong answers. I'm the titular Matt Stewart and our first guest is journalist, author and one of the chasers on The Chase Australia. It's Brighton the Shark Coverdale. Hello Matt. Thanks so much for joining us. What a pleasure. First time guest?

Yeah, first time guest, occasional listener. I'm really selling the show here. I mean you probably listen for research for your work on the chase that's right look i look i listened to at least one episode last night in preparation for this or actually i started at least one yeah well i mean you take trivia pretty seriously and there's more of a lot you know there's a light look at trivia no no no this but what i like about this is and um i have i genuinely have listened to several episodes i love a family board game night you know my family was big on that growing up so this is this is like the you know the version of that where you don't have to all actually you know get together and um you know uh and you just be

and you're choosing to each other each other as well here like i'm choosing exactly it's not like oh great mom and dad again oh i know yeah my family is very competitive at this stuff as well so i mean i'm well aware that uh you know certain contestants on this show also are so we'll see what happens, there's been a couple of notable ones, and a few on the opposite end as well. The little dum-dum guys did not try all that hard, it's fair to say. Our second guest this week is host of Do Go On With Me, as well as his own show, Book Cheat, both on this very podcast network.

It's Dave Warnicke. Hello, great to be here. And I'm going to take this very seriously. As you always do I think you straddle the line quite nicely Dave A bit of both Now this is the first time I've been on the show many times But the first time I've been on against someone who has their own nickname

Brydon you are the shark I feel like I've got to have a nickname here Well yeah I mean I don't know if you know this about Dave Brydon But he tried to get his own nickname going The Cobra, which I think would be a great chase nickname. Brian, get me in there.

Do you need a cobra on the show? I don't know about the cobra. I'm just sort of looking at the way your head's poking up from the microphone. There may be the mongoose. Oh, I don't mind that. I've got a mongoose face for sure. And that's the enemy of the cobra, isn't it? Yeah, you're right.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's fantastic. Great. I'm happy to dave the mongoose warner key thank you so much that is a sick nickname actually and you didn't give it to yourself which means exactly it's got a chance of sticking i'm allowed to use it you almost said the mere the mere cat so i don't know which one you prefer oh i'm happy with mongoose did you how'd you get the shark was that given to you on the show or did you come in with that no that wasn't pre-existing that i mean the way the show works you kind of you know you have a bit of a persona and um the idea was that i was a bit of a car shark type you know like a bit of a smart aleck bit of uh you know give, give the contestants a little bit of chat. And I don't know, there was a little bit of talk of the hustler, but I think it was decided

that that was too American. Yes. The magazine, probably. Well, there is that as well, yeah. So, the shark got the nod. Your background's in cricket journalism, right? You didn't think like the sledledger, something like that? The Sledger, that would have been good, actually, yeah.

The Aussie fastball, that one was taken by Tom Gleeson 20 years ago. I don't know, yeah. Cricket's great for nicknames, but most of them are fairly unimaginative. It's like just putting, you know, IE on the end of your name. Yeah. Like Warnie, Clarkie, you know. Or Gary Lyon, taking the name of a lesser-known sports person. That's good.

Yeah. That's good stuff. Well, he probably wasn't lesser-known at the time, but, you know, over time, Nathan Lyon's become far more famous. And, you know, but you get to a point where, you know, you're just attached to a nickname. Gary, nobody around the world has any idea what Gary Lyon means or why he is called that. Did he not? Which makes it all the more fun.

You'd be furious if you were Gary Lyon if the joke nickname person overtook you in terms of fame around the world and sporting success. Well, that's right. I mean, not only around the world, but like think about AFL versus NRL. Probably there's half of Australia who don't even know Gary Lyon. Yeah, that's true. I mean, we know Fatty Vorton. Surely they know.

Well, true. Gary's our fatty, isn't he? Well, I don't know. How can you rank them? It's a very, yeah, that's another podcast, ranking NRL and AFL players. So you wrote a book, was it last year, The Quizmasters Inside the World of Trivia, Obsession, and Million Dollar Prizes.

Am I right in saying that features Dave Warnicke somewhere? He does get a brief mention, yeah, as does Do Go On. Dave didn't tell me that bit. Dave told me he got a mention. He didn't say we got a mention. I've sent you the photo of it. Brian, can I just say, biggest honour of my life, thank you so much.

Takes pride of place on the mantelpiece, that book. Or just that page. It's been torn out. Framed. Yeah, you're right but yeah it's a um it was a chapter it was a chapter about pub quizzes and uh i was talking about how many um you know young comedians especially kind of come up through hosting pub trivia which dave did i went to uh some of dave's pub trivia probably 12 or 13 years ago i think at the royston in richmond and um and yeah what did you say you'd hosted like about a thousand nights or something yeah i remember

yeah a thousand trivia nights yeah i went to that once that's amazing and he he's also impersonated santa about a thousand times as well so not quite as many times, but they were all... Which one has he done best? Definitely Santa. 19-year-old me nailed that role. It was the role you were born to play. You have the physique for it, for sure. But the book talks about you paid off your mortgage winning cash on an Australian game show, but you've been on all of them.

Is this the... Out of all of them, is this probably the one you wanted the most? Who knew it? Who knew it with Matt Stewart? Yeah, I i mean it look it wasn't around when i was growing up but if it was i would have i would have been right up for it i'm sure uh so look it's a tough call but this is probably the the greatest media appearance that i've ever made i would say and you you like you literally study and train for trivia. You have to for The Chase. Because some people think that you have answers fed to you. There's all these conspiracy theories,

not about you in particular, but The Chase is a show. How can The Chases possibly know this many facts across this many different um yeah well i mean there's there's a there's a couple of parts to that one is if they were going to do that they would have hired you know actual actors or people who you know knew what they were doing um but secondly if if that was the case uh why would I make so many stupid bloody mistakes and, like, punch myself because I knew I should have known something? It's like we're just highly competitive. And I've been doing quizzing for my whole life virtually

and went on my first quiz show when I was 19, Sale of the Century, you know, back in the day. That was the big one when I was quiz show when i was 19 sale of the century you know back in the day that was the big one when i was a kid who was that who was the host that was glenn glenn ridge at the time yeah that's a great page i mean tony barber of course was fantastic tony barb tony barber was doing it when i was a kid and uh at that same time glenn ridge was um hosting on ballarat television so this is when yeah the regional cities in Australia, in Victoria, had their own TV stations, and it was Channel 6 in Ballarat, and Glenridge hosted back-to-back on Saturday morning

Six's Super Saturday show, which was like the cartoon show. And then it's just like one camera moved, and suddenly he was on the set of this music show called Off the Record. That's good value. He was just there. Yeah, exactly. Is that where you grew up in the Ballarat region?

In a place called Camperdown, which is down in the Western District of Victoria, and we picked up Ballarat TV. You got Glenn. So that must have been a real thrill to be on Glenn's show. So, yeah, I was probably the only person ever on that show who could have said, hey, I loved you on Six's Super Saturday show. We should get cracking on the show.

But, yeah, I was amazed to hear about your training techniques, how you sort of do flashcards and you study, like, the news to keep up to date with new trivia as well as old trivia. Do you reckon you've held on to the training that you've done 20 years ago? A lot of it is still sticking in your mind? Definitely some of it. And one of the things I do a lot of is I write trivia questions.

These days I do that in the newspaper as well as just for my own practice. And I find that writing them, it just sticks a lot better. But, I mean, we have to. I can't go into filming and just go, oh, I'm going to rely on what I knew 15 years ago. Because then they say, what movie released in 2023? And I go, I don't know. That's not really how it works. I've got to keep up with it all.

You can't buzz in and say, no, older one, older one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people say before my time, which is a bit of a cop-out because, you know, like literally any history is before my time. World War I, come on, I wasn't there. Shakespeare, who the hell is that? Oh, he was born hundreds of years ago. Shakespeare? Who the hell is that? Exactly. He was born hundreds of years ago. How am I expected to know that?

Exactly. I'm very nervous that you're going to know every one of these answers, but we'll see how we go. So the way the show works for new listeners is I ask a relatively obscure trivia question and our contestants have to write a convincing fake answer. I then read their answers as well as the real one and I have to guess which one is correct.

The first question comes from listener Lisa Drennan from central Queensland. And the question is, what does the German word Fallstorch mean? What does the German word Fallstorch mean? Dave's got a bit of an advantage here as a German man. Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah.

My surname absolutely will come in handy here. You've got German blood flowing through your veins. Can you spell that for me? I'm just going to write it down so I can see it. Okay, yeah. It's P-F-E-I-L-S-T-O-R-C-H. Feilstorch. Okay. It's a beautiful word. It feels nice in the mouth if you want to have a go. L-S-T-O-R-C-H. File Storch. Mm, okay.

It's a beautiful word. It feels nice in the mouth if you want to have a go. While they're writing their answers, I'll explain how the scoring works. So you get one point if your fake answer is guessed by the other contestant, and another point if you correctly guessed the answer. And by the way, I'm also playing as The House,

and I've put in two of my own fake answers for each question with the help of the question writers and i get a point for each one of those that our guests choose so each of us can score up to two points per round which seems fair but the probability actually favors me the house and the house always wins although if you've listened to previous episodes you'll know that is uh only the case about a third of the time anyway our questions come from our great Patreon supporters. If you want to submit a question, sign up on any level via patreon.com slash do go on pod, which is linked in the show notes. All right, the answers are in.

So here is question number one. What does the German word file store mean? An early 20th century shoe with a patented fabric that heated the wearer's feet via friction A filing system which categorises government documents and sets out their retention periods A Swiss-German term for a person who refuses to do the compulsory Swiss national service Equivalent to what was once called a draft dodger in other countries A bird that gets injured by an arrow while wintering in Africa and returns to Europe with an arrow stuck in its body.

Wow. That's very specific. Or the feeling that you didn't relay an anecdote quite as well as you could have at a dinner party, leading you to be distracted as others one-up you with more warmly received stories. File store. to be distracted as others one-up you with more warmly received stories. File-storch. They do go quite specific with words, don't they, over in Germany?

That's what I was going to say. I could imagine the Germans having a word for all of these things. Yeah. File-storch. Yeah. What are you thinking, Dave? Any of those jumping out? I mean, yeah, all of them.

So can we have a quick recap, a little summary in there? Quick recap, 20th century shoe, which is self-heating. You've got a filing system, file storch. You've got the Swiss-German term for a draft dodger, a bird that has an arrow stuck in it after returning from Africa, or the feeling you didn't relay an anecdote quite as well as you could have at a dinner party okay i mean i love the last one because we've all had that feeling where you're going oh god i'm constantly file storching

you just want to pop your hand up and say sorry can i have another go i actually left out a key detail there that made it actually the tension built quite a lot higher. I started panicking. Does it have to be specifically at a dinner party? Because I feel like I've done it on this show already. Let's go again. Yeah, no, that's a different word entirely. That's a different word, yeah.

A podcast version of that. I can also see a word for someone being a draft dodger, but then it's Swiss. Famously neutral. Are they drafting people? Well, the Swiss National Service. Yeah, okay. But obviously they've got a bit of German going on there. The bird with the arrow

like, runs. It is so specific. How many can survive? How many file storches are there? Yeah, that's right. How many can survive? Like, is this the generic name or it was just one bird and that was its name? Yeah.

It could have just as easily been Gavin Johnson. Yeah, that's right. But sometimes they're so silly, you go, surely that's that. You know, someone broke this in. Yeah, who's come up with this? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's not the twisted mind of Matt Stewart.

Yeah. Maybe it is the twisted mind of the shark. I don't know. Or Lisa from central Queensland. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I forgot Lisa. A very twisted individual.

Well, I think I've decided which one I'm going to go. All right. Do you want to? Yeah, that'll help me because I'm really floundering over here. I'm false torturing. Should I say it out loud? Yeah, lock her in. Okay.

I think I'm going to go for the shoe, the self-heating shoe. All right. Locking that in. That sounds like something that would have been invented in the early 20th century and completely failed. Yeah. It didn't sell because it didn't really do the thing it said it was meant to. Exactly, yeah, yeah.

Or maybe it works so well. Shoes are sort of inherently self-heating, aren't they? How much friction do you want on your shoes? Yeah, your skin's melting off as you go. All right, well, if you're going to get that one, I'll go a different one. I'm going to go with Fast Ocean. I'm going to go with the Draft Dodger, please. Draft Dodger.

No worries. Locking that in for Dave. So here's who wrote the answers. The feeling that you didn't relay an anecdote quite as well as you could have. That was The House. Great work. Love it. That is a great word.

I think they probably do have a word for it, I'm sure. I'm sure they do. Yeah, it's basically, the famous one is the Schadenfreude or whatever, where you, they've got, and people are like, they have a word for everything. I remember that as a kid hearing that, and I was like, the Germans, they have a word for everything. There is another, I don't know what the word is,

but there's an opposite version of that, which is, you know, the feeling, like feeling good about someone else's happiness, but there's an opposite version of that, which is, you know, the feeling, like, feeling good about someone else's happiness. But that's just far less interesting. Yeah, that's right. And it doesn't feel as, you know, funny and specifically German. You know, them feeling happy about something. That doesn't seem right. Filing system, categorizing government documents.

That was Lisa aka the house From the twisted mind Lisa from Queensland You're diabolical Lisa Then we had the 20th century shoe Which Brydon went for That was Dave Warnicky That's a twisted mind right here

Oh dear Dave went for the draft dodger, the Swiss draft dodger. That was Brydon. Oh, wow. They picked each other's. Return the compliment there. Yeah, that's right. We're going to end up with the same score, at least.

They've fallen into each other's webs. Yeah. Hold on. No. Is that leaving one left? That can't be true. The correct answer is a bird that gets injured by an arrow while wintering in Africa and returns to Europe with the arrow still stuck in its body.

No. It literally translates to arrow stalk. I'm sure you're going to tell us, but there can't be more evidence of more than one of these. I believe there's been, I think I read there's been like 45 documented. But it was really important because the first one, which is the most famous one, was found in 1822 in Germany. And it kind of helped prove that birds migrate for the winter.

They didn't really know what was happening to them at the time, but because it, like, a very specific African arrow was, they're like, oh, okay, well. That's where that's from. They couldn't have got that from hibernating in a cave. Wow, so it's part of the thing that actually helped, you know, research the species. Yeah, exactly.

Really interesting. So these birds were actually, you know, far more efficient explorers than the Germans of the day. Exactly. That's right. All right. So that's a point for each of you.

No points for the house. But that's all right. I'll bounce back. Here's question number two. This one comes from Dan Faulkner from Ramsgate in the UK. Dan's question is, which of these is a real type of marine crustacean? Multiple choice.

Love it. So you've just got to come up with a fake name for a crustacean. And while you're doing that, here's a little more information about phylostorch from Lisa, writing, phylostorch is a German word for arrow stalk. The first and most famous Falsstorch is a white stalk found in 1822

near the German village of Klutz. It was carrying a spear from Central Africa in its neck. This changed how Europeans understood birds, as they hadn't realized they migrated. Well, that was only a theory at that point. Prior to this, some other theories about the birds were uh where they went in winter included that they turned into other kinds of birds uh they turned into mice or possibly hibernated underwater so when you say theories um you know

any scientific basis behind those. Anyone can have a theory. Yeah. I'm guessing they were like, well, there seems to be more moss in the winter, probably because the birds aren't there to eat them or something. Yeah, and they've gone, well, I don't see the birds around here anymore. They must have. Yes. They must have swam under the water.

Yeah. Olden days people, hey? Oh, man. Olden days people hey oh man those olden days people pretty silly yeah no looking back i reckon some of them sound pretty silly oh finally they had podcasts yeah i mean the fact that i've got hundreds of hours of free-form thinking on the record. There must be so many things that people could bring up and go, remember you said this? Not really. I'm sorry. I said something stupid, did I?

Yes. How long will it be? Remember when you said this? And then this? And this? How about this? Oh, God. I'm fascinated to know what future generations look back and and our theories on

things oh yeah some of our science that just won't end up being correct and other other things other beliefs i just don't know what they're gonna be but i think i think there could be ones like people go dog loves me like this but one day people be like can you believe in the 2000s they kept dogs as pets and at the time dogs will be presidents or something i can't believe it dogs as pets all right the answers are in here question two. Which of these are real type of marine crustacean? Caramel lobster. Ooh. Sexy shrimp.

Lovesick lobster. Buff bod rock hard crab. Buff bod. Or the bonking veibler. What was the second last one? Buff bod rock hard crab. The buff bod. Buff bod. I love the way that you just laughed at your own fake creation there, Dave.

I didn't quite hear that one. Can you repeat that one? Sorry, say that one again. Oh, gosh, that's a very funny one, isn't it? That's funny and realistic sounding. Everyone acknowledge how funny that one is? I didn't come up with that, so maybe that's the correct answer. Can we have another recap?

Caramel lobster, sexy shrimp, lovesick lobster, buff bod rock hard crab, or the bonking veibler? Oh, two lobsters in there. Is that a sign? That Brydon and I are on the same page here again. Yeah, you two are trivia experts. Are you looking for patterns? What's your theory here? What's your strategy?

Well, I've got a pretty clear strategy with the answer that I'm going to choose here, but I don't know if I should give it away at this point if Dave hasn't answered. Yeah, I think, Dave, it's your turn to lock in first. Yeah, I'll go first here. I'll go first. My strategy, I don't know about you, Brydon,

mine is to correctly pick the right answer. Oh, okay. That's first. I'll go first here. I'll go first. My strategy, I don't know about you, Brian, mine is to correctly pick the right answer. Oh, okay. That's the strategy I'm employing here. That's right. I remember when I was a cricket journalist and someone asked the Australian captain at the time, Michael Clarke, what Australia's tactics were, and he said, to win.

And I was like, no, I think you're misunderstanding. Tactics. There's some steps in between. Step one, win. End of steps. Yeah. That's right. Okay.

I can't believe you got out thought in the field. Oh, we were trying to win. And you kept hitting it over the fence. That's not what we were trying to do. Stop that. I thought we had the right tactic. Can't believe we lost. That wasn't what we were trying to do at all I thought we had the right tactic Can't believe we lost That wasn't what we were trying to do at all Where did you go wrong?

Well, we lost Yeah Well, next time maybe we should try to lose Ah, yeah Okay, I'm going to go for the love sick lobster If that is indeed an option That is an option Oh, you want to put in a sixth option?

Lock that in? Okay That is an option. Oh, you want to put in a sixth option and lock that in? Okay. Well, I am going for the bonking vabler, mainly because I don't know what a vabler is, and I can't imagine why someone would make up that word. I think that's very solid logic. The rest ended in crab or shrimp.

Exactly, yeah. The rest were us going, oh, my God, what's a crustacean? Yeah, yeah. All right, well, here's who wrote the answers. Buffbod Rockhard Crab, that was the house. Well done to the house on that one. It started off, I wanted, like, it was like a bad word play on rockhard abs, rockhard crabs. Oh, okay. I had to lose the plural and then rock hard

crab sounded weird so anyway that that was that's my process yeah rock hard crab that's something else yeah that doesn't quite feel right uh caramel lobster that was dan okay the house so again you've both avoided the houses oh the house is getting. Well, we're doing well there. Lovesick Lobster, which Dave went for. That was Bryden. You're kidding. And the Bonking Fabler, which Bryden went for. That was Dave.

Oh, no. Maybe the correct answer was Sexy Shrimp. That was the one that I would have said that's the least likely. That's a lazy answer from the house. No worries. No, that's a lazy answer from science. Yeah, this is what we're looking back at 100 years saying. They called it a sexy shrimp?

That was a weird scientist that day. Yeah, he's not allowed to name, let alone be a round shrimp anymore. Yeah. I was just about to ask what a veibler is, but then I remembered actually Dave made it up. Dave, can you talk us through that one? It sounded like a little sea creature. Yeah. A Vabler. Yeah.

Well, that checks out. Turned out to be the perfect answer. It was just nonsense. With the word bonking in it. Yeah, that's right. All right. Question number three. This one comes from Power Couple. Tanner and and erin nordstrom young from calgary alberta wow and the question is what

is the nickname or what was the nickname of american footballer dick lane does he need one Dave, I know you're not a big NFL fan. Brydon, you into the American football? No, not really. Only for trivia purposes of trying to remember who won the Super Bowl, basically. Yeah. That's more or less which cities the team's coming from. That's about the extent of my interest. So, I haven't come across Dick Lane.

Yep. You don't know nicknames of 1950s footballers? Oh, 1950s. That gives me a clue. Oh, yeah. Have I said too much? To be fair, there's not a lot of Richards going around as Dick these days. That's true.

That has fallen off a little bit. While you're writing your Dick Lane answers, I'll let the audience know a bit more about sexy shrimp according to dan uh they're named as such because whilst they're chilling on a coral reef they spend the entire time shaking their butts in the air there's nothing sexier than that uh according to the cephalopod page.org they are also commonly known as squat shrimp and it is a small spotted shrimp found in shallow coral reef areas throughout Bermuda, the Caribbean, and the Indo-Pacific region. All right, here is question number three.

What was the nickname of American footballer Dick Lane? The Trick, John Thomas Alley, Night Train, Glass Bottom, or The Great Wall of Liner Backer. Is that in brackets? Yeah. Because you didn't do a little pause there. You don't usually have bracketed nicknames, do you? Normally they have to work out loud, don't they? Great Wall of Liner Backer. Normally they have to work out loud, don't they? Yeah, normally they exist because, you know, they're easy to say.

Yeah, the commentators can get it out in a fast play. Like you said, I don't know that much about NFL, but the position, it's linebacker, not linerbacker. Yes, but I guess his contemporaries didn't think that quite worked as well as wordplay. The Great Wall of Line. Yeah. Backer. Mm, yeah. That's definitely what his contemporaries would have thought.

Yeah. That was different. In the 50s, that was a different time, wasn't it? So it's 50s, okay. 50s, 60s is when it was his pro career. One more time, one more time, please. Run us through those again, Matt. The Trick, Dick the Trick Lane,

John Thomas Alley, Night Train, Glass Bottom, or The Great Wall of Liner, Backer. It is almost so bad it's good. Yeah. Okay.

I think that sounds right to me. You want to lock it in? I'm really toying with it. I think we might be back to Brighton here. Yeah, okay. First stab. I'm thinking Dick Glassbottom Lane. Okay.

What do you think in the ideas there? I don't know. Again, my tactic here is that's a strange one to be there. It's not the right answer, which is essentially half of what I do on the chase in the multiple choice ranks. Why would that be there otherwise? Why is that there? Yeah.

I hope no question writers are listening. I used to be a question verifier. I don't know if you know that problem um yeah i did hear something about that yeah how did you enjoy that i i quite enjoyed it yeah um you know it was just interesting and you sort of got into the rhythm of it but it was funny just having to break down the questions making sure that there was no loophole that someone could have a second answer to it. It's actually a really tricky art to write a question in such a way that it's sort of A, interesting, B, correct, and C, has no other possible answers. Yeah. There's a lot of aspects to it that, you know, for a question that then exists for five seconds on a quiz show. That's right.

Yeah, because to make sure there's no other answers, you just have to be real specific. You know, rather than what is a big cat found in Africa or something like that. What is a big cat that was found in Africa when John Simpson visited in 1932 and he took a photo with it and it's in his book? Also found near file storches. File storch. Man, I love that word. Yeah. Difficult to throw into conversation, but I will keep it in mind.

It reminds me of the file storch. So, Glass Bottom for Brighton. In my mind, Glass Bottom, he gets that nickname. He has two injuries of his, like, coccyx or his tailbone, and he gets the nickname. You know, like Glass Jaw. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably not a bad thought.

I mean, if you're injuring your coccyx and you're called Dick, though, you're probably getting another nickname. Yeah, there's other options around. That's a good point. Maybe he just loved going on glass-bottom boats and looking at tropical fish. It's just about his hobby. Yeah, I think it was big in the 50s. All right, Dave, what do you want to lock in?

Okay, the one that's jumping out to me is John something? John Thomas Alley. But his name's declined. Yeah. And I'm looking, is that JTA? What is that? John Thomas Alley.

And then the Great Wall of Line. Liner. Liner. Backer. Backer. And then, there was one more? The Trick and Night Train.

Night Train. Night Train. John Thomas Alley. Well, Alley Lane. You see? Dick. John Thomas. John.

Okay. I'm feeling that. Maybe that's you justifying your own workings out there. No, I'm not. I'm just saying I thought it was pretty clear. Same with Glass Bottom. I don't know. I thought they were all pretty clear.

I can make all of these sound legit, I reckon. Night Train rhymes, so there's that. Yeah. It's so out there. And the trick. And you, of course, can go the same as Brydon if you want. No, to keep it interesting, I'm going to go, and I was out there, The Great Wall of Liner.

I'm going to do it. It's so bad, it's good. Okay. It's so bad, it's good. Okay. It's so bad, it's good. Okay. Well, yeah, normally each round there's one that you shouldn't pick. But anyway. And in the first round, I would have said that that's the African bird being shot by an arrow

and then flying all the way to Europe and then them naming a specific word out about it. Very good point. Here's the answers for question three. The trick. That was Tanner and Aaron. Okay. The house. Dick the Tanner and Aaron, aka The House. Dick the Trick Lane. John Thomas Alley, that was Brydon.

Well, John Thomas. John Thomas is slang for, you know. I'm so sorry to pull that apart there. Yeah. John Thomas is just a classy slang. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I was thinking 1950s, you know. Yeah.

They were a bit more, you know, respectable with their colloquial terms. That's funny, because when you submitted that, I took out one of mine that I'd written, which was Wang Alley. Yeah. Which is... At one stage, I had typed out the cock. I was just going to send that in.

I almost said Wiener Alley. That was my other... So, yeah, I took out Wang Alley and quickly wrote The Great Wall of Line Up Back Up. That's off the car. Holy shit, you're good, man. That is good stuff. Oh, man. So, the house is finally on the board there.

You fully deserve, knowing that that was, like, come up within seconds. That is so good. Glass Bottom, which Brydon went for, that was Dave. That's three in a row you went for, Dave. Brydon, here's a confession. I, for one season, wrote questions for The Chase, so I was the one putting those weird options up as well. You were going, why would they put that up?

That was probably one of mine. That must have been the season when I did really badly, judging by how I'm going now. That means the correct answer was Night Train, which I think is a pretty badass nickname. That is a badass. But, like, Dick Lane is such a great name. You don't need anything.

Dick Lane is a great... My favourite of those types of sporting names, real names, there was a NASCAR driver who was a champion driver called Dick Trickle. That was my favourite. That is so good. Dick Trickle. It's so good. That's a real name?

That's his real name. You would call yourself Richard, wouldn't you? Absolutely. Otherwise, you lean in so hard that no one else can get there before you. I think he's leaned in. There was another NASCAR driver of a similar era called Dick Passwater. Really?

These are genuine names. Look them up. Dick Passwater. Question? These are genuine names. Look them up. Look them up on Wikipedia. I know. You've got a question. Question one's done for next week. Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm going to edit that bit out so I can use it.

Dick Passwater is so good. And wasn't the Tom Cruise car racing movie, didn't he have a name similar to, didn't he have a name like Dick Trickle? What was that movie called? I don't know. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either. Days of Thunder.

Days of Thunder. I don't know. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either. Days of Thunder. Days of Thunder. I don't know the name. I think I thought he had a name like that. Can't believe that's a real name. Days of Thunder. That is a real... Dick Trickle was a proper sort of champion. I'm looking at...

His full name was Richard Leroy Trickle. And he went, I'm going to call myself Dick. In Days of Thunder, Tom Cruise's character's name was Cole Trickle. So it must have been inspired by. That must have, actually. I did not know that. Cole Trickle. I mean, yeah, it's funny to have the fictionalised one being less interesting. Yeah, less funny.

Yeah, it is. Yeah, Hollywood, they dumbed it down. Alright, so after three rounds, the scores are The House on one point, Brighton on two points. But out in front, it's Dave the Mongoose Warnakee. Yeah, go Mongoose. All right, we're up to question number four.

This one comes from Rachel Ball from London in the UK. And the question is, what is the Brown Willie effect? What is the Brown Willie effect? Sorry? We're just getting over Dick Lane. And now we're on a Brown Willie. What is the Brown Willie effect. Sorry? We're just getting over Dick Lane. And now we're on a Brown Willie. What is the Brown Willie effect? While you're writing your answers, here's a little more info

about Dick the Night Train Lane. According to an LA Times article from early in his career in 1952, Lane's teammate Tom Fears had a record player in his room and one of his favourite platters which I looked at

I think that just means songs back in 50s lingo one of his favourite platters is a number called Night Train and whenever Fears plays it Lane can be found in the hall outside Tom's room dancing to the music so he just got the nickname because he liked the song

buying a sick nickname alright while you're still writing your answers let's go for a quick break as women our life stages come with unique risk factors like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke know your risks visit heartandstroke.ca Alright, we're back and the answers are in.

So here's question number four. What is the Brown-Willie effect? A weather phenomenon seen in the southwest of England where rain clouds gather over a hill called Brown-Willie. A nickname given by Wigan fans to the galvanizing effect on gameplay when rugby league forward brown willie jenkins entered a match the thin layer of dust left on buildings cars etc after a small scale hurricane like storm in the midwest usa a side

effect of the black death which caused the genitals to turn a strange shade of greenish brown and i've got the black death and now I've got the bloody Brown Willie effect as well. Oh, God, this is embarrassing. Or in World War II, a European bird called the Brown Willie was known to fly towards incoming bombers, thus giving away the position of enemy planes and saving many civilians' lives. So you've got the weather phenomenon in England.

You've got the Wigan rugby galvanising effect. You've got the dust left on buildings after a hurricane-like storm in Midwest USA. You've got the genitals turning greenish-brown. Or the heroic brown willy bird. Oh, gosh. There's a lot of variation. There's a lot of variation. The variation there, the interesting thing about the brown willy bird is it comes back with a bullet in it and the Germans...

So, everyone... Then they know, the Germans know as well. That's right. As the Allies. So, yeah, it actually ended the war. It won the Nobel Peace Prize. That bird. Oh, man, what a bird.

The brown willy. Beautiful, beautiful plumage. Absolutely. For what's the weather phenomenon? England? Weather phenomenon seen in the southwest of England where rain clouds gather over a hill called Brown Willy. Brown Willy effect.

Okay, and then the second one uh the galvanizing effect on gameplay uh when the wigan rugby player brown willy jenkins entered a match oh wow you and i went to wigan last year you had a wigan balm a pie balm which is a i don't know if you know brighton that's a a local delicacy where they get a meat pie and they put it inside a buttered bread roll and then you eat it all in one go. And it was full on, but delicious. My main question is why? They talk about you want to have a variety of colours in your meals

and this one had all the colours from yellow to beige. That's all it had. Yeah. What you want is, you know, some more carbs around the pastry. Yeah, that's right. It was actually hard to finish because it was so full on. Yeah.

Because there's a lot of butter too. But a rugby player getting in there. The Wigan effect. Get him in there. Brown Wigan. Brown Willie. Brown Willie. Brown Willie Jenkins. Brown Willie Jenkins. Sorry, I called it the Wigan effect. Get him in there. Brown Wigan. Brown Willie. Brown Willie Jenkins.

Brown Willie Jenkins. Sorry, I called it the Wigan effect. That's completely different. Because that would really point towards that one. I'm thinking about this one. I'm thinking about that one. The Brown Willie effect. Where was that question right from? Are we allowed to ask that? London.

Oh, okay. Because there's a couple of British ones there. I'm going to go with, because I loved Wigan so much, as a tribute to that great place, I can see them getting behind the Bramwell effect. So, this is a point for the balm. Yeah, a point for the balm. It was a very rainy spot. Yeah, it was just full.

Not rainy. It was just that soaking mist. Yeah, that's right. You're like, oh, this isn't too bad. And then two minutes later, you're soaked. It was a beautiful town, though. Yeah, that's right. You're like, oh, this isn't too bad, and then two minutes later, you're soaked. It was a beautiful town, though. Yeah, lovely. With a beautiful balm.

Am I saying that right? A great balm. Balm. Brydon, what do you reckon? I'm going... What did you say, Dave? The rugby player. Yeah, I want the Wigan guy. I'm going for the other British one.

I'm going for the weather effect over the mountain in southwest England. Okay, lock that in for Brighton. Okay, we've really got behind England here. So the interesting thing about this is that's the one he thinks, well, Dave hasn't written that. Yeah, that's right. Why do you think I haven't written that? Yeah, Dave can't spell that.

Southwest England, that's a bit too complicated for Dave. He might do south, he might do west, but southwest? Southwest, no, no. Actually, I'm more likely to be the Wigan guy because, like I said, we've been there, but it wasn't me. Did that not make you think that Matt might have just written it? Yeah, maybe, actually. Hang on.

Hang on. Hang on, man. Locked in. Sorry, Dave. So, here's who wrote the answers. The brown willy bird who flew towards the bombers. That was Dave Warnicke. The curse is broken.

The side effect of the black death Making the genitals go greenish brown That was Rachel AKA the house I love the idea though Love the idea I wish it had happened It would make history more interesting The thin layer of dust left on buildings

After a small scale hurricane In Midwest USA That was Brighton Nickname given by Wigan fans To the galvanising effect Dust left on buildings after a small-scale hurricane in Midwest USA. That was Brighton. Nickname given by Wigan fans to the galvanizing effect because of Brown Willie Jenkins. That was also Rachel, aka The House. Oh, there you go. Meaning Brighton was correct.

A weather phenomenon seen in the southwest of England where rain clouds gather over a hill called Brown Willie. Wow. Now, see, I must admit, that's the first one where I've had some actual knowledge that has helped me. Love it. Because I did have a question, I don't know, six or seven years ago on the chase, a multiple choice question, about which of these is the name of a mountain in Cornwall, and the answer was Brown Willy.

So I can't remember the other options, but that's the sort of thing like, you know, like what was his name? Dick Lane that sticks in your head. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Because you must have answered throughout the last 20 years or whatever. You must have answered, what, 10 million questions? Look, I'm not much good at maths, but it would be many, many thousands. Yeah. I know they... I think they probably use about 120 or something per episode on average,

which is a lot of questions. That is a lot, isn't it? And when... Because you're not... For people who don't know the format, you're not answering all the questions. There are sections where it's... Oh, no, are you there for all of them?

Well, I'm there for sort of you know well i suppose about half of it because i have my final chase and then all the multiple choice rounds as well and the contestants have their individual rounds and their final chase so yeah probably about half of them i suppose do you see the ones that you're not involved in are you like, like, in studio or...? Yeah, yeah, we're on backstage. You're getting a massage out back. I'm backstage looking at the contestant going, what can I say to this person when I walk out that's, you know... You're often trying to pick up on something that they've said in their cash flow.

Yeah, because you come out with a bit of a zinger, sort of like... Yeah, yeah. You say it with a glint in your eye. Oh, yeah. It's a lot of fun. So people know, like, you know that you're not being too mean, but you give them a little clip, and they're all written by you just off the cuff, basically. Me and, yeah, we have a producer backstage who just kind of helps us kind of run through the ideas and liaises with the control room and all of that sort of stuff. But yeah, a fair few of them I just come up with myself.

Yeah, love it. The producer just has to tell you to turn it down sometimes. We can't have you effing and Jeff in here, bro. There has been, we've so wanted to do you know an up late chase um kind of you know with where you can just you can just go go a little bit more i think that would be a great idea absolutely rip strips off the american family feud has definitely gone that way you see clips of it's not right isn't it oh yeah it's all very cheeky oh can't believe you said that yeah yeah which uh

like when you the first time i saw a clip and i'm thinking of the australian one that was played at 5 30 in the afternoon you're like oh that is pretty risque but once you realize that that that's what they're going for they're going for that they're going they're stuff like oh what's something you'd find inside underpants and then someone says something like a bottom they go oh my gosh I can't believe you said that clearly read them there yeah yeah although occasionally there's occasionally there's ones that I don't think they would have expected one of the

classics on American Family Feuds with Steve Harvey hosting is the other question is what's something a burglar wouldn't want to find after breaking into a house and the guy answers naked grandma so i mean you know fault him fault him on that yeah yeah yeah it's probably not something that many people out of 100 surveyed have said that it's not wrong but it's probably not on the board

naked grandma that's incredible that's so good uh after four rounds can i remember where we are up to no yes so um after four rounds the scores are uh the house on two points but equal out in front it's the shark and the mongoose each on three points how are the natural enemies they probably don't come across each other very often in nature, do they? But there is a mutual respect. Yeah, there... Yes, that's right. Game respect. I can just imagine the mongoose just, you know, standing down there on the beach, looking at the ocean, nodding its head.

Yeah. I respect you, Shirk. Hey, I dub you the mongoose of the sea. All right, we're up to question number five. This one comes from Tom Beasley also from london town and this question goes back to 1973 when a turkish studio produced a film using unlicensed marvel superheroes including spider-man captain america and el santo what is the title of this knockoff aven Avengers film?

So it's Turkish? It's Turkish, but the English translation. Okay. That's good because I don't want to have to make up Turkish. That would be an interesting round if it's just five attempts at Turkish. So, yeah, just got to come up with a Turkish knockoff superhero movie name while you're writing your answers. Here's some more info on Brown Willie. According to Rachel, although it sounds like something else,

it is believed the name is actually taken from the Cornish for Tall Hill, which is quite disappointing. In 2012, a campaign was launched to have the hill's name restored to the original Bronwenili on the grounds that it would be slightly more attractive to residents and tourists than Brown Willy. But Cornish residents objected to the idea. They said, no. No, that's our Brown Willy. That's our Brown Willy.

How dare you? Hands off the Brown Willy. Hands off my Brown Willy. Yeah, that must have been the alternative campaign was hands off our Brown Willy. That's a great hashtag. All right. The answers are in for question number five. In 1973, a Turkish studio produced a film using unlicensed Marvel superheroes.

What is the title of this knockoff Avengers film? Super Party Hero Man. Avengers versus Revengers. This time the donkey gets it, Three Giant Men, Magical Heroes Kill Nazis for Fun, or American Hero Men. A lot of men going on there. Yeah, three of them are Super Party Hero Men, Three Giant Men, and American Hero Men. And then you've got one about a donkey and one about Nazis. And what's the Nazi one?

Magical heroes kill Nazis for fun. Okay. I'm trying to think of which one I want to watch the most. Well, you need to think less about that. Think more about what does the 1970s Turkish Dave Warnocki want to watch the most. Yeah, sorry. That's absolutely. Oh, yeah.

Trying to get in the mind so the problem is i'm in the mind of 2023 melbourne dave warner key yeah you need to you need you need to get in the mind of 1973 turkish day oh my god i'm also in the 2023 come on let me just cast my mind back what are the three men ones again? Super Party Hero Men, Three Giant Men, American Hero Men. Or it's Avengers versus Revengers. Avengers versus Revengers, this time the donkey gets it. And Magical Heroes kill Nazis for fun.

I like the idea that last time the donkey didn't get it. That's right. This time, the donkey gets it. By popular demand, we will execute this donkey yeah people wanted it there was an online campaign yeah kill that donkey it sucks we

want the donkey cut edit the donkey kill cut yeah the 70s were different times so a different time well i think actually dave while you're still thinking, I think it's Brighton's crack to go first anyway. Yeah. Look, the one that I would want to watch is Magical Heroes Kill Nazis for Fun. Yeah. And so if that's not the answer, I'll be slightly disappointed that that movie doesn't exist. Yeah, that definitely seems like

a raucous good time i think it might even be a romp yeah that's the top critics pick for me too but i think i'm gonna go with is it three giant men three giant men lock it in because that also sounds amazing locking in three giant men because the third superhero i actually hadn't heard of el rio or something el santo el santo yeah i hadn't heard of, El Rio or something? El Santo. El Santo. Yeah, I hadn't heard of him either. It's the Spanish version of Santa's helper, isn't it? The Santa. Sounds like the Spanish version of Santa. Oh, yeah, the Santa?

El Santo. I don't know. I could imagine a superhero version of Santa. That would be quite cool. I mean, he's sort of a superhero anyway, though, isn't he? Have you seen... Dave and I saw this... We were killing time in Sydney after hosting a corporate trivia thing.

That's right. And we went and saw this movie called Violent Night. Violent Night, yeah. Have you seen that? And in it, Santa is basically like... I have heard of it. It's sort of like if John McClane in Die Hard was actually Santa. Okay.

So he finds himself in a house with terrorists and he has to quietly go around sabotaging them and... With the aid of a child and suddenly it's like Home Alone but graphically violent. Yes. People get nail guns in the face and all sorts of stuff yeah we were laughing it's so outrageous it's very funny it's it's uh the weirdo yankovic did have a song in the 90s called the night santa went crazy which is is more or less similar i hope you get a ride credit santa just kind of you know going postal um the night santa went crazy is awesome yeah i don't know that but not one of his bigger hits but uh you know

all right well here's who wrote the answers uh super part super party hero men that was dave warner key that's me so it sounds like you've really extracted yourself out of his head there bryden yeah yeah two in a row you've removed from my brain. I was going to say, partially that's because he asked for a repeat of the Nazis for fun one, and so I thought, yeah, he didn't say that. He didn't write that. But maybe I was trying to steer you towards that.

Obviously I wasn't. Maybe you were, but you obviously weren't. But maybe you will next time. American Hero Man, that was Brydon. So you've got out of each other's heads, but you're still in a similar head space. We've come one by one. You're both going for Hero Man. Briden. So you've got out of each other's heads, but you're still in a similar head space. We've come one by one.

You've both gone for hero men. We're still in the same sort of Venn diagram. That's amazing. Avengers versus Revengers. This time the donkey gets it. That was the house. Came from the dastardly mind of the house. Magical heroes kill Nazis for fun, which Briden went for.

That was Tom, aka the house. That's good stuff. But I think, yeah, you're right. That is of all of the House. That's good stuff. But I think, yeah, you're right. That is, of all of the options, that's the one I want to see as well. Oh, yeah. That means Dave is correct. It was Three Giant Men. I mean, I also thought it was great.

Was I really? Brydon, you were very close to the actual one with American Hero. Yeah. Yeah. Three Giant Men. It's so funny. Does that mean, Brydon, I feel like you should be producing films in Turkey. In the 1970s. Yeah, you totally get the market.

Yeah, yeah. I assume it was a massive hit. Yeah, I don't think so. And apparently it was a bit strange. Spider-Man was the villain. Okay. Oh, really? They were like, well, spiders.

No one likes spiders. Make him the villain. Maybe they just didn like well spiders are no one likes spiders make him the villain maybe they just didn't know they just they had the costume yeah well yeah i guess this is the villain i mean i actually i said it was unlicensed but we know from uh our do go on podcast that marvel hit some tough times and sold off rights all all the show for one point. Yeah, Left, Right and Center, they were selling them. Oh, yeah. So maybe that was official. I don't know. I'm just waiting for El Santo to make his way into the current MCU films. Yeah, where's El Santo? Bring on El Santo.

It's a great name. Yeah. All right, we're up to the penultimate question here. Question number six comes from Sev from the USA. Can't be more specific than that. And his question is, what was rapper Diddy up to on the 31st of January 2011? What was rapper Diddy up to on the 31st of January 2011?

And while you're writing your answers, let me tell you a little bit more about the film Three Giant Men. According to a paste magazine article this depraved 1973 actioner tells the rip-roaring story of captain america and el santo going after your neighborhood psychotic rapist criminal mastermind spider-man you heard that right not only is spider-man the bad guy here but he is also one sick puppy as evidenced by the pre-credit sequence that shows him burying a woman and decapitating her with a boat propeller thankfully the movie spares us from finding out what he did to aunt may taking full advantage of the sexploitation craze of 70s turkish cinema which we're all familiar with this film should

work as a permanently scarring experience for Marvel fanboys watching their beloved heroes engage in horrific and horrifically blocked violence only to stop every once in a while to watch gaudy striptease shows. I reckon that someone listening right now is going, that sounds like my cup of tea. Do you say that? So he buried a woman then cut her head off? Yeah.

How'd he do that? Yeah. Dig him up? I'm guessing he couldn't cut her head off? Yeah. How did he do that? Did he have to dig her up? I'm guessing he couldn't fit her all in the hole. The dirt went up to his neck. He's like, oh, great. And then he had to... Get the propeller.

Yeah, I'm guessing it was meant to be a funny thing. Right. He's hapless. Turkish Spider-Man is a hapless villain. Come on, mate. And that's putting it kindly, you know? Yeah, I think that's a bit more than hapless. Oh, the answers are in.

For our second last question here, I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone's written. What was Diddy up to? Oh, Diddy. Oh, Diddy. So, the question is, what was rapper Diddy up to On the 31st of January 2011 He asked for a private tour

Of the LA Aquarium But had to be escorted out after demanding To swim in the Shark Lagoon He changed his name by Deedpole But due to a misspelling on the form He was legally known as Dibby For 24 hours until the correction could be made.

Dibby. Hang on. This is not what I wanted. I like Dibby. Dibby's great. I could get into Dibby's work. If you ever watched Red Dwarf, there was the cat who was the super cool character. He had an alter ego, which was really uncool, called Dwayne Dibley.

Oh, that's right. Yeah, I did watch that. Lost all his cool. He basically had a bowl haircut and big teeth. Big teeth and he carried a thermos everywhere. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm Dwayne Dibley. I'm literally drinking out of a thermos right now. That is all your thermos. Oh, no, I'm Dwayne Dibley. I'm literally drinking out of a thermos right now.

That is all your thermos. Oh, no. Being rinsed. So, there's the first two options. Dibby. Option three, we've got, he was partying with the Bryans at Shane Warne's Club 23 after they won the Australian Open men's doubles title. He was being sued for a trillion dollars by a woman who accused him of causing the 9-11

attack. Okay. Or he got out of an assault charge due to a legal loophole. It was found that due to a clerical error, the government had separate files for Sean Combs and P. Diddy, basically giving him two distinct legal identities in the state of New York. Because of this, his lawyer successfully argued that Diddy could legally provide an alibi for Coombs and vice versa.

I missed it. What was the side that he got out of something? He got out of an assault charge due to a legal loophole because he was able to give his other... Right, because I'm Sean Coombs and I'm also Dibby. I'm also... Well, I'm not Dibby. He's Dibby.

Dibby couldn't be here right now. No, he's got three. Oh, he's got three now. Yeah. Dibby, Diddy and Sean Coombs. So, you got... He wanted to swim with sharks in the LA Aquarium. His name was Dibby for 24 hours.

He was partying with the Bryans, the all-time great. And it hurts me to say it. I think even more successful than the Woodies. Oh, my gosh. Partying at Shane Warne's Club 23. Being sued for a trillion dollars for causing the 9-11 attack. Or he was able to get himself off legally by giving himself an alibi.

Okay, okay, okay. I mean, they're all great. While you have a think, Dave, my ditty story, Matt, do you know the cricket writer Jared Kimber? Have you ever come across him on twitter yeah he's he's an australian uh cricket writer and the album cover for diddy's album last train to paris it features this photo on it that's uh basically just of a paris railway station

and jared kimber took that photo just basically put it up on his personal blog and sometime later got an email out of the blue from Diddy's people saying, we're looking for an album cover, can we use this? You're kidding. So Australian cricket writer Jared Kimber, who I know well, took the album cover photo for Diddy's last train to Paris.

That is wild. Yep. Do you think that... Like, imagine just getting a message out of the blue from Diddy's people going... Yeah, I would not believe it. Like, you must be going, no, you're not. No, that's right. Exactly.

Yeah, that feels like the scenario I'd rule out first on a show like this. Yeah, exactly. That didn't happen. Do you think that would have been a money-changing-hand situation, or was it like, this is such an honour, so funny that P. Diddy's going to put it on his album cover, you can just have it? Yeah, if it was me, I'd be like, I'd want money, but...

But also, if the only way it's getting on the cover is me not taking money, you can have it. It'd be so tight for Diddy, who must be a billionaire, or even trillionaire if he's being sued for that much. I reckon I'd say, you know, look, don't pay me, but can I have 0.01% of the profits from the album?

I just want a little back end. Yeah, tiny little bit of royalties. Just a little dibble. Just a little dibble at the back end. Come on, dibbies. A little Dwayne Dibley. Just a little Dwayne Dibley. A little thermos.

Who are we up to here? I think maybe it's you, Dave. I am going to... It's so outrageous. I'm going to go for it, but people do pull this kind of crazy shit all the time in that land of the free, sued for a trillion dollars for doing 9-11. Okay. I can't tell you how or why, and they probably can't either, but I think that they were like,

did he did it? Did he did it? Did he do it? Did he do it? Did he did it? Did he do it? Did he? Did he did it?

That's grammatically incorrect. That's how he got off in a loophole He did do it, but when they said did he did it They said sorry, I don't understand And then they said withdrawn This case is thrown out Alright So you've gone with that one Okay

I'm tempted by partying With the Bryans at Shane Warne's club after the Australian Open, because that is around when the Australian Open would finish, and the Bryans were big at the time. And I'm trying to think whether Diddy is in Warne's famous painting of all those celebrities having a party with him.

I want a print of that. I want a print of that to put up in my lounge room. It's an absolute piece of art, isn't it? Yeah. I don't know a lot about art. Oh, no. But I know what I like. I love the fact that Aaron Hamill is in there, you know.

Is he? Along with all the celebrities. That's so good. Former Carlton and St Kilda footballer Aaron Hamill, who was mates with Warning. He would have been. He's such a. Oh, it's such. Yeah. I mean have been pinching himself. Oh, yeah. I mean, if that was an actual photo, perhaps.

I wonder if he's still going around with the Sammy nickname. Yeah, I don't know. He used to get Sammy because he looked like Sam Newman. Yeah, you probably don't want that. I don't think he's probably going with that one anymore. You're probably distancing yourself from that in 2023, I think. Club 2023. I am going...

So you've got... I'm tempted to go for the Bryans, but I'm really second-guessing myself here about what Dave would have written. It's got a bit of the Dave DNA on it. That's right, I'm a tennis fan. I'm not really that worried about answering what the house wrote, but I just don't want to get inside Dave's head again. You don't want to give me the satisfaction.

I think that's fair enough. No, I'm going for the Bryans. All right. Running with Shane Warne. Walking in the Bryans. Bryans for Bryden. All right, here's where I wrote the answers. Shark Lagoon

At the LA Aquarium That was Dave Yes, I win regardless of what happens Were you tempted at all by that? No I thought maybe you were just looking at the screen And you saw me and thought shark I didn't even think about that

I started the sentence with He wanted a private tour of the LA Aquarium I'll finish it from here I nearly wrote something About a mongoose The legal loophole Where he was able to give himself an alibi That was the house

Man I spent too long Working on that one It was about three pages It was extremely long so that tempted me to say that that was the answer yeah me too i thought this is so detailed no one could come up with this but the one i just banged out real quickly about the bryans that's the one bryan went for i did quickly look up they did win that year but yeah and it was a few days earlier and i but i don't think warny's club 23 was quite in existence yet which i really i would have thought the shark might have gotten onto it was open dates of club 23 yeah it was literally opened up months later the same year

so it wasn't too bad of a mistake there. I'll let you off the hook on that one. I think everyone's favourite from this round, changing his name by deed poll to Dibby. That was brought in. Oh, that is so good. It's so good. Dibby.

It just sounds such like something a celebrity would do. Yeah, especially a guy who changes his name every six months. Yeah. Oh, shit, I filled it out wrong. I didn't know this, but he's known his name every six months. Yeah. Oh, shit, I filled it out wrong. I didn't know this, but he's known as Love now. What? Yeah.

He's moved way... It was always something with Diddy Daddy. Yeah, Puff, Puffy. P. Diddy. Yeah. He's moved right away. Prince did that as well, didn't he? Love symbol. Wait.

So that means Dave was correct. He was being sued for a trillion dollars by a woman who accused him of causing the 9-11 attack. So that means a point for the house and a point for Dave this round. Going into the final round, the scores are Bryden is on three points,

the house on four points, but out in front on five points, it's the mongoose. Ooh. But, Brydon, you might not know this. The final round is worth triple points to the contestants.

The house can only still get normal points. Okay. So, I'll tell everyone more about what happened with Diddy

in a second while you're writing your answer to the final question which comes from Talia from South St. Paul

in Minnesota. And Talia's South St. Paul in Minnesota. And Talia's question is, what is the synopsis of the 2020 film Nana's Secret Recipe? What, you? 2020. Wow. So this one, you know, it'll be your longest answer, Brydon. Probably, you know, about three sentences, something like that. A short paragraph.

And, yeah, while you're writing your answers, about the synopsis for the 2020 film, Nana's Sweet Recipe. Is it sweet or secret? Secret. I was going to say, hang on, I misheard that. Makes all the difference. Makes all the difference. Yeah, let me double check that.

It is secret. Nana's Secret Recipe. While you're writing your answers for that one here's some more information about diddy and why he was being sued according to digital spy uh in an article written at the time he was being sued for one trillion dollars a dollars after being accused of causing 9-11 a woman named valerie turks filed the suit against diddy whose real name is sean coombs alleging that he was the cause behind the collapse of the World Trade Center in 2001 and also that he stole a poker chip from her worth $100 zillions.

Turks was denied a restraining order against the rapper, but the judge set a hearing for the case for January 31st. Turks, who is asking for $900 billion in child support and $100 billion in loss of income, also claims she once dated Diddy and shares a son, the 23-year-old Cornelius Wilson. Yeah, that's a bit of a wild tale. Obviously, she was, yeah. It's a strange story.

Anyway, more recently, Diddy made news in Halloween, just go on, and according to Variety, after reportedly being instructed by Warner Brothers saying that his costume last Halloween was so accurate that it was breaking trademark. And on Kimberley said, I swear I have this letter. I swear to God, it's from Warner Brothers. Sounds like he just got a prank letter. But anyway, in his post to social media on Halloween, Diddy waved the alleged legal papers in front of the camera

and said, you win. I'm not going to be the Joker this year. Then the video abruptly cuts off with the screen that says, stay tuned. Oh, I'm hooked. Later on, he posted a high budget video dressed as Batman from Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight franchise, where he sits atop the Batmobile as dramatic narration plays over the video. The video then cuts to a man's office, seemingly a Hollywood executive with Oscars on his desk, as Batman barges in demanding him to end the strike. The man is left unconscious and stripped of his clothing, covered by a sign reading, strike is over love the darkest night the video ends with a clip of a newsstand with the gotham times headline reading the darkest night ends the

strike it's it really it feels like the propaganda that um the north korean guy would make or something just sort of like pretty bonkers stuff from Love. Okay, Diddy. But I just want to know if any of these characters were in that Turkish film of 1973. Yeah, I know. That's the thing. Diddy should bring that film back. Turn it into Four Giant Men. If he wants to address as El santo then you know go go for it

yeah i think there's i don't think anyone would know what it looks like enough to know if a trademark is being breached or not el santo i'm looking up el santo oh it's yeah it's like a like a mexican style wrestler characterbut in 1934 as a wrestler. And then 1942 as El Santo. Also known as the man in the silver mask. He was a Mexican. A famous Mexican wrestler. Who has appeared as a superhero in film and other media.

El Santo is presented in his superhero films and media. As a sort of man of mystery who appears where he is needed. Bit of fun. Alright, the answers are in. So here's the final question. With triple points, meaning it's truly still anyone's game. What is the synopsis of the 2020 film Nana's Secret Recipe? In the small town of Bradville, Ohio, the annual pie baking competition is the highlight of the year, and every year the seemingly sweet Edith McDougall is the winner.

But when down-on-her-luck rival Sharon Sturt and her friends decide enough is enough, they realize there is more at stake than just first prize, as the integrity of the town is also on the line. Who will be crowned best baker of Bradville? And will heart win out over heartlessness? It's option one. Option two. Nana June loves her grandkids. Jesus, be defensive early. She spoils them rotten. But when her son-in-law discovers the dark secret behind her special meat sticks,

he has a decision to make. Will he let his kids remain blissfully unaware of the meat's roadkill origins, or will he fall victim to her powerful witchcraft? Wow. Oh my god. That is a big twist late. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you I think the witchcraft needs to sort of be foreshadowed a bit. You don't just drop it in at the end. Oh, by the way, she's a witch.

I hope that happens in the movie too, like the 89th minute mark. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, she's a witch, credits roll. Wow. Jeez, that's... Yeah. I mean, we're thinking they're breaking the rules, but that's what auteurs do.

Yeah, that's right. That's definitely what auteurs who write answers down at the last minute do uh here's option three dying grandmother confesses to a nurse that she invented the original recipe for the mars bar laughing her off at first the nurse soon discovers that the lady is telling the truth and goes on a quest to get her recognition the recognition she deserves after loot there's another one after losing all their retirement savings in a Ponzi scheme, five women band together to create a bakery cooking up marijuana treats. When one of them is diagnosed with cancer and the local drug dealer, Kingpin Paint,

discovers what they're doing, the stakes get even higher. Through it all, the nannas are bonded by their sisterhood and their desire to help their friend in need in this hilarious southern tale. Anything that describes itself, it's hilarious, I swear. Also, can they just drop in that it's southern right at the end there? Yeah, what? Bit of a twist. At the 89th minute mark?

They suddenly change accent. They're like, oh, shit. Oh, part of the news. You just read this note in the snow, please. i've got the vipers i think i got that spot on wow that's incredible oh finally a minneapolis grandmother starts a business selling chocolate brownies which are shipped across the canadian border supposedly for schools and church groups to use for fundraising in reality it is an elaborate heroin traffic operation in which each brownie is hollowed out

and filled with a baggie of gear. She is eventually caught only because one batch accidentally goes to a school and ends up being sold at the school fair. So there...

Okay, so there's a couple of marijuana ones. No, that one was heroin. Oh, sorry. There's a couple of drugs. I know all drugs seem the same to you, Dave, but they're a little different. There's a couple of drugs. I know all drugs seem the same to you, Dave, but they're a little different. There's a little baggie

of heroin in the food, is that it? Yeah. Okay, okay. Does she do heroin, marijuana, roadkill, slash witchcraft? Yeah, roadkill slash witchcraft, Mars bars, or a pie festival

with a lot of heart. Yeah. Is that what that one was? Yes. Heart versus heartlessness. Edith McDougall, Seemingly Sweet. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

This is tricky. Very tricky, isn't it? It's called Nana's Secret Recipe. Nana's Secret Recipe, yep. Okay. And- I mean, I'm amazed I haven't heard of this film, given it's so recent. Yes. Yeah.

All of these sound like things that would have done well at the box office. Yeah, this isn't straight to streaming. These are huge, epic. What is this, coming out on Boxing Day? Yeah. Massive, big deal. Not all of them have names, but the ones that have names in them,

they're all fantastic. We've got Edith McDougall, Sharon Sturt, Nana June. Oh, yeah, Nana June. But I think my favourite's got to be Kingpin Paint. Yeah, that's good, isn't it? Yeah, that's good.

Nice detail. Nice detail. If you were to sum them up again very quickly, with like a couple of key words. Just to remind us. You've got the Bake Off. You've got the Roadkill Meat Stick Witch. You've got the Secret Miles Bar Inventor.

You've got the Marijuana Treats to get out of a Ponzi scheme hole. Yep. And you've got the brownie drug trafficker. But it ends up with a school fair selling... Those movies... Selling heroin. There's often the movies, you know, where they'll have the, oh, no, people have accidentally had a hash brownie. Yeah.

But I haven't heard of many where they've, oh, no, look at the hijinks we're getting up to when everyone's on heroin. Yeah. This child has eaten heroin. Feel good tale. So, Dave, you're in the lead. Do you want to kick us off? Okay. I think I'm going to go for the Nana's selling marijuana treats with kingpin paint.

Kingpin paint. Yep. Let me know that one. Okay. Looking that in for Dave. Maybe the special thing is what I want to see. I want to see kingpin. Kingpin paint.

Hmm. Okay. paint hmm okay I my gut feeling is that Dave wrote oh do you want to do one we can do this where you both guess each other's as well for an extra three points that well I'm using what do you think is my I reckon days might be the Mars bar Mars bar okay put that in well

I'm I'm sort of trying to narrow narrow down in my mind which one to go for. So, heroin, the meat sticks, the pie festival. I am going to take a stab at... Gee, I want it to be the witchcraft meat sticks lady. Nana June. I reckon you're going to try and end the show on a high, so I'm going Meat Sticks. Okay, Lucky and Meat Sticks.

Brydon, I think, yeah, Nana Joan, the roadkill witch is what I would have called the film, but... Nana's secret recipe. Yeah. And that just leaves you, Dave. You want to have a guess to see which one you think Brydon would have written? That's interesting because I was going to say that one.

So I don't think it's... Obviously, I don't think it's the marijuana one. I don't think it's that one that he's locked in because why would he lock in his own one? Leaving three options. Could you possibly be the heroin guy? So you've got the heroin. You've got The Mars bar

And you've got the bake-off I think No, I'm going to go bake-off Bake-off for Brighton Bake-off for Brighton Alright Let's go through Who wrote

The answers So The bake-off one About Edith McDougall, seemingly sweet. That was Talia. Oh, no. Okay, the house.

So, is that a point there for the house? One point for the house there. From me. Oh, no, that's no points. Oh, no, that was my bonus. You can't just throw points around. I mean, Matt has completely changed the game here at the end and said, you get three points if you can guess who wrote what.

It's like when you're playing footy at school and the teacher just goes, next goal wins. Yes. But we're up by 50. Yeah. Minneapolis grandmother starts selling heroin brownies. That was Brighton. Oh!

Well, see, the question writer came from Minnesota, so I just thought if I could just get that Minneapolis in, I might trick Dave into making that connection. You are a fool to overestimate. I would notice that small detail. I'm an idiot. Never overestimate the mongoose. Yeah.

That's my tagline. Brydon, you went for the meat stick roadkill witch. I did. That was also Tullya. Okay, the house. So that's a point for the house. Okay. That's a shame.

I know. Let's get it made. Who's your production company again? Have a word to them at the chase. Yeah. Look, I've got this idea. It's slightly left of center compared to what you usually do, but. Now, Brydon, you thought Dave wrote the one about the Mars bars

and you were correct. You are correct. That was me. So that's three points there for Brydon. I'd stand by it. I'd watch that movie. Yeah. Which I believe, does that leave me with just the correct answer,

which Dave went for, is the Ponzi scheme marijuana treats with kingpin paint. I was so tempted to go for that. That was either the, this is definitely not real, or this is so bad, it is definitely real, and I went with the latter, because I thought, kingpin paint. That's great. So funny, kingpin paint. Either Matt in the house would come up with that, or kingpin paint. That's great. It's so funny, Kingpin Paint. Matt and the house have come up with that.

Kingpin Paint. That's real first draft stuff. I just, yeah, we've got, you know, we've had heroin and, you know, marijuana was the real one and I've just upgraded it to heroin, basically. Yeah, that's right. I don't know if that's an upgrade or not. The, yeah, it is. The stills from the movie are, yeah, it looks very low budget.

And there aren't even any reviews. I couldn't find any critic reviews. Oh, wow. But I found a few IMDB user reviews. Here's a snippet from a favorable one. Claire Zilla gives it 10 out of 10, writing, this is a really lovely story about female friendship featuring actresses of a certain age that we don't see nearly enough in films. It's a cute little independent film about five women banding together to help each other out.

The storyline is interesting, the villains are just cartoonish enough to keep the humor up, and the heart of the movie is genuine. On the other hand, OJT gives it a 1 out of 10. Oh. Saying, well this is just as bad as the poster promises. A nasty little propaganda movie. It's not funny at all. Even if it tries. But it must be made with the sole mission that marijuana

is fun and healthy. Someone here writes that the heart of the movie is genuine. Well that's the heart of marijuana for sure. Spells it with an H. It's made like a religious movie, one of those nasty propaganda movies with a plot that is a disgrace.

OJT was furious. When you read out the plot at first, I sort of thought, gee, this kind of sounds like, you know, old lady breaking bad, doesn't it? Yeah, that's right. That's what they're going for for sure. Okay, so here is the final score check in third place, which I think is honourable in a lot of ways.

Top three. On five points. It's the house. Into second place on six points. It's Brighton, the shark, Coverdale. Meaning out in front with his correct guess at the death there on eight points. The winner this week is Dave, the mongoose Warnakee. The mongoose reigns.

The mongoose. Thank you so much. So now we know what would win a fight between a mongoose and a shark. That's right. Well, I think this is unfair because this was on land. So I think we need to rematch. I'm out of my natural habitat here. Just threw the shark on the floor and the mongoose comes out and just sort of stood there and watched it slowly lose consciousness.

Just flexing. Yeah, sort of bopping it on the nose. Under those circumstances, I was doing pretty well to survive for over an hour. Yeah. Honestly, wow. I mean, the house, they're normally pretty good on solid land, but you defeated that. Took out the foundations. Brian, thanks so much for joining us.

It's been a real pleasure. Thanks for the chats, the insights into the trivia world. Where can people find you? Is the book widely available? The book is still around. You might find it in in some bookshops you definitely find it online um it's called the quiz masters if you um are interested in just trivia and quizzing and stuff it's just got lots of you know lots of interviews and behind the scenes kind of stuff and you know a page where dave warner could get it to mention so that's right if if that's your thing then um then you know get a copy of it i

think what they should do is buy the book and bring it uh to a dave warner live show get him to sign that page just that page yeah so there's going to be a whole heap of copies in like op shops that just have that page torn out you know people aren't interested in the rest of the book as long as they buy it yeah well that's right I don't care you don't have to read it I'm not precious otherwise you can find me I do a daily

trivia question on Instagram bryden.coverdale there and I do a daily question where people can have a stab at the answer and I can give you a bit of extra information the next day I didn't know that

I'm going to have a stab at that right now I have a funny feeling that maybe a Dick Passwater might be coming up which of these is not a NASCAR name Passwater Trickle otherwise I'm on I'm on which of these is not a NASCAR name. Password would have trickled. Otherwise, I'm on the social media platform formerly known as Twitter and various other places. But the main thing is just keep watching the chase

and keep us in jobs, please. I really need to have a job. So good. And Dave, where can we find you uh people can find me on page i can't remember the page but uh maybe 191 is my guess of uh write the book uh you can also listen to the book cheat podcast i've got nearly 100 books i've covered now basically i've read the book so you don't have to so i go take a couple of guests to a classic and we uh just make jokes about the plot basically and also on the Do Go On podcast with your good self coming out every week. That's right.

We just finished up our Blocktober slash Blovember. Biggest and most voted for topics of 2023. It was huge. Finishing with like when I thought up the idea of Blockbustertober. Big Blockbuster topic. Yeah, huge. The biggest topics ever. It was a matter of time Before the Oxford English Dictionary

Came in at number one A few surprised people In the comments But that's what people voted for Got a big percentage of the votes So we give the people What they want That's right

And it's not so much That you're telling the story Of the Oxford English Dictionary You're just reading it Yes In the first episode We got from 8 Ant And we're going to have to go back and continue on.

There's a few more. I mean, after a few years of a podcast, it's hard to come up with content, so I can see why you've gone that way. We've done every other topic. And this way, we're technically covering all the topics. Yeah, now you build it yourself. Yeah, that's right.

You can put them in any order you like. Yeah, that's right. Just chuck it into AI, and then we've said every word no to humanity. Yeah. This is your last episode. It just happens to go for 30 years. Thank you so much to both of you for joining us.

Listeners, hang around. There might be some outtakes at the end after the credits. And give us a five-star review if you want to. And why wouldn't you want to? Maybe tell your friends if you think you know anyone who might enjoy it. Yeah. Cheers for tuning in to Who Knew It with Matt Stewartart now that you know it i've been matt stewart goodbye there was a car racer at one point a british guy called dick seaman

that's on the same list as the other Passwater and Trickle these guys it's just they are leaning into it aren't they yeah gotta be

man I've just found a listicle that's full of great options for future questions Duck Waddle there was a baseball player called

Rusty I think it was pronounced Kuntz K-U-N-T- called Rusty, I think it was pronounced Kootz. Okay. K-U-N-T-Z. Rusty Kootz. There's that famous, was it the chase even?

The British chase where the host couldn't get through Fanny Schmier? Fanny Schmeller. Fanny Schmeller. Yeah. It's a great clip. Who was an Olympic skier. And I have the feeling she was not that humorous about the fact that her name became a joke on British television.

Yeah, it's the kind of thing you just have to, however you feel about it, you just got to bite your tongue and pretend you're in on the joke. Otherwise, it... Yeah. Fanny it... Yeah. Fanny Schmeller. My other favourite is, like, the Dick Trickle kind of things. And you'd know all about it.

Matt the Sandy Roberts. Leanne. Leanne Dick. That was at the races? Yeah. Introducing Miss Australia, Leanne Cock, I'm sorry, Dick. I don't think I know that. It sounds so good.

It's in the early 80s. It's on the video of it happening. Yeah. It's very fun. It is. His brain was clearly just going, don't say cock, don't say cock, don't say cock. Wait, was going don't say cock wait, was it don't say dick? oh no

and obviously the silences will get edited out sometimes people panic try to be entertaining in the silences anyway Sometimes people panic and try to be entertaining in the sciences. Yeah. Anyway. Did you get to go to the West Indies for work at all? I went there actually as a cricket fan, the 2007 World Cup. So it was before I only just started working in cricket,

but I went on a cruise. That's the only time I've ever been on a cruise to watch the last couple of weeks of the World Cup. It was one of those sports tours, but because the West Indies was kind of all different islands, it was just easier to go on one of those things where they organise it all for you. Hosted by Merv Hughes or something like that?

You joke, but it was Merv Hughes and Cario Keefe. That's great. And Cario Keefe. And Cario Keefe. That would have been so much fun, I imagine. But the funny thing about it was that it was, you know, it was a big cruise ship, like, you know, 1,000 people or whatever, and it was all pre-booked well in advance,

but India had gone out of the World Cup really early, and so all the Indian people who had booked on the cruise just cancelled. And as a result, they sold all these cheap tickets to American cruise tourists. And so it was this cruise ship that was like half drunken Australian and South African and English cricket fans going around to cricket and half American cruise patrons who had no idea of what was going on around them. What was going on was culture. Oh, yeah.

That way of getting right up close to it, I imagine. Cricket culture. Yeah, yeah. Aussie cricket culture it was uh there was a lot of aussie cricket culture on that on that cruise imagine that could have been a bit grim um yeah depending on your mood oh yeah it was there was um uh look it was it was really good to go to all those West Indian islands that you probably otherwise wouldn't get a chance to. And that World Cup final was the one where it was basically

it finished in the dark because the umpires completely forgot the rules around how to deal with bad lighting cricket matches. So they played in the dark. Who won? Remind us who won that year. Australia defeated Sri Lanka in the final. The boat would have gone off that night. The boat, yeah, it was rocking,

which you sort of don't want a boat to be doing, actually. Please do. I feel like the 90s, they could have done a crossover, Three Giant Men and a Baby. I don't know. Do you think that could have been anything? Do you remember the film franchise, Dave? Yeah.

Ted Danson was in it, maybe? Oh, it was Ted Danson, Tom Selleck, and Steve Guttenberg. Oh, the Goot. Yeah. Oh, the Goot. Now that's Three Giant Men of Hollywood.. Oh, the Goot. Yeah. Oh, the Goot. Now that's three giant men of Hollywood. Oh, three giant film stars. Yeah.

One of my favourite film reviews of all time was, you know, Leonard Moulton, who wrote those kind of quite short, snappy film reviews. And I think it was Police Academy 4 or 5, the entire review was, what can you say about a sequel that not even Steve Guttenberg will appear in? He didn't. The sequel was two men and a child or something no no this was police academy yeah that is cutting to the movie and to the goot poor good he's uh he's doing good stuff on

social media, apparently. I just saw one of his posts come up in my feed, and I was just like, hey, you've got to believe in yourself. It was like he was doing inspirational stuff. On your goot. I watched an interview you did with an English quiz guy last night. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Gareth, was it? Gareth, yeah.

That was pretty fun, wearing his logo on his polo and stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. Awesome. Oh, wow. English quizzing is very much like that. Yeah, it's pretty. We've got some friends over there who sort of do it as a very serious hobby, and they travel all around Europe doing it.

It's so serious. it's so serious it's so serious and like so serious that it's almost like they object if it's fun you know yes yes david i did this is a serious hobby a pub trivia night with them and uh yeah we hardly got a word in you know like australian pub trivia is it's there but it's it's sort of a social thing yeah yeah and you're doing that as well social yeah but they're just like they're writing their answers before you get a chance to even discuss it yeah yeah but but that's why like on you know on australian quiz shows it's all about that if you've got a bit of personality and stuff and on british quiz show it's hello i'm john i'm 64 and i'm a retired accountant

yeah that eggheads is the funniest for that there's just like yeah it feels like they're doing a dress rehearsal and i don't realize the camera's rolling that's right i know yeah yeah they just turn up in whatever they're wearing yeah i love it very funny