Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - Bonus - Scary Funny with Thom Tran and D'Sean Ross

Episode Date: November 26, 2023

Before recording the episode of Who Knew It with Thom and D'Sean, we recorded an episode of their podcast 'Scary Funny' which you can find in their feed or listen here! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh my God, can you believe it? It's the year 2024. It's Melbourne Comedy Festival and we've just moved venues. We're at the Grace Darling now. We had a great run at the Chinese Museum, selling out shows by the end, but now we need you to come over to the Grace Darling and shows are at 7.15. It's going to be so much fun. Love to see you there. Let's have a beer. Use discount code DOGOON. The show's called Dry Dry at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Then we're going to Sydney and Brisbane. Tickets to all that stuff's on sale now. And you can find those tickets and details at mattstuartcomedy.com. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors. Like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause causing the risk of heart disease to go up know your risks visit heartandstroke.ca it's like uh i went in um santa clara the other day i went to the winchester mystery house yep we've that was one of our first episodes.

Which, like, the spookiest thing was, I couldn't figure out how to buy a ticket. So I... Happy Halloween, or at least the day after when this drops. This is a very special episode for many reasons. Hey, this is Tom, and first of all, we recorded this on Halloween, so last night if you're listening to this the day it drops. Secondly, it's one of those very rare times that we record an episode and then immediately post it, And that's because our very special guest, Matt Stewart, from the Do Go On podcast, was our guest.

He was live in studio and straight from Australia. He was in town visiting, so we did a pod. Not going to lie, very little scary talk in this one, but a lot of fun. Then we recorded an episode of his podcast, Who Knew It With Matt Stewart, that will cross drop at a later date. Very, very fun time great dude uh so glad he got to come into the studio and do this podcast with us deshawn will be someplace in los angeles check his instagram page if you're in town then i head to the east coast next week to do a bunch of shows in florida uh i got a couple of corporate gigs in Orlando, but I'm doing some public gigs in Pensacola for the university of West

Florida, Pensacola. So check my website for those details. And I'm opening for Brad Williams in Calgary and Winnipeg right after Thanksgiving. Again, everything's at tomtran.com. If you want to get tickets and information. Also, if you haven't checked out my guitar show, the story behind the strings, I dropped a very special Halloween episode yesterday. so check that out. Like, subscribe,

do all the things. As always, thanks for listening, and here we go. Welcome to Scary Funny, the podcast where funny comedians talk about haunted places, scary stuff, and things that just freak us out and we try to make each other laugh. While we're doing it, I am your host, comedian, actor, Army veteran, tired. Tom Tran, I'm here with my co-host host, comedian, actor, army veteran, tired Tom Tran. I'm here with my co-host, also comedian, also actor, big Lakers fan, Deshaun Ross. And our very special guest from all the way from Australia. Matt Stewart, thanks so much for having me. Will you edit that pause out where you seem to forget your own part?

No, no, I leave that in all the time. This is going to be a very special episode for a lot of reasons because we are recording it on Halloween, and unlike most episodes that we record and then bank for weeks at a time because of touring, we're going to release this tomorrow, November 1st, the day after Halloween, which is All Saints Day or Dia de los Muertos. For our Southern California friends.

And especially because my good friend Matt is here and I'm very excited about this episode and I don't want to wait months for this to come out. That's just blowing my mind. Halloween is like Christmas Eve for Halloween. Well, Halloween, literally

it means All Hallows Eve. Oh, yes. I've heard that. All Hallows' Eve, meaning tomorrow's All Saints' Day in Christian faiths. So they get rid of all the evil stuff, and then tomorrow's all saints' stuff. Yeah, I think the way it goes is tomorrow's All Saints' Day when they celebrate the saints, and for the Latin American countries, they celebrate the dead. So Dia de los Muertos, Day of the Dead. And the understanding is Halloween night, the day before,

is the day that the veil between the supernatural and the natural world is very thin, so that's why you can maybe see ghosts and goblins and things like that those spirits are able to come through so but also it could be a bunch of bullshit but you believe it right do I believe it do I believe in what Halloween or just the possibility that

the truth is out there sort of stuff oh absolutely I think that there there has to be something above and beyond what we consider normal and regular life. Just like what we see and feel every day, like physically and what we can touch. Whether that comes in the way of ghosts and spirits, I don't know. I don't know for sure. I'd like to believe that.

All this other ritualistic stuff, it's fun, and it's, like, nice to believe. And for me, it's a fun thing to believe and maybe, like, latch on to. But like we do on this show, like, I want proof. Like, I like talking about it. I like when things freak me out for sure. But I would like some proof, and I would like some evidence. Until then, like, I'll do the, you know, I'll celebrate the Day of the Dead and Halloween and all that stuff just as a matter of like, I grew up Christian. That was part of my faith.

It was the things we believed. And as I grew up, I saw how other people believed and how it all kind of meshed together. So yeah, I kind of believe it. How about you? Yeah, I'm probably like a level back from that. I want to believe but I just can't quite get there. But I'd love it to be true. I'd love there to be something beyond this. You know, love death to not be the end. Well, let's introduce you first. So you are here from Australia, visiting. You're a very funny stand-up comedian and from the very popular Do Go On podcast, which is where I know you from.

That's right. And it's wild that the world of podcasts, you know, the podcast hands stretch across the ocean and we can touch each other. It is really weird because I started off as a fan. I don't know, Deshawn, if you even know this. So I started off as a fan of the podcast because of James and Meso from the Weekly Planet, which is the comic book nerd podcast that I listen to.

I think you guys were all on the Planet Broadcasting Network together at the same time. Yeah, that's right. And at one point, they were promoting the other shows on the network. And I heard an episode. I think it was a bigfoot episode oh yeah and i was like they're really great and then i became a big fan for a lot of years and then i reached over now that's over now um no no still a big fan and then i reached out to you guys a few years ago with a business proposition that we've been trying to

make happen for literally five years now and i don't know how much you guys have talked about it i've kind of kept it under wraps other than like me and my lawyer and you guys and my girlfriend the only people to know about it um because it's been a challenge we've talked about it a bit i mean like you know i was already in. I was here in my mind. It was already happening. Like we were a ways down there. Although since then, I've realized how much harder the visa process is. So much harder.

Than I realized. But yeah, that went just before COVID hit. I was sure we were coming over. I had it all like it was happening in my head. Yeah. And then again this year, we booked venues. Yes, we did. We got a lot further, but the State Department effed us.

I'm here. Why? Yeah, why? So basically. And name names as well. Okay. No, no. So basically what happened is there are a set of requirements.

Okay, so I'll just talk about i'm not gonna be coy about this i was trying to bring the do go on podcast to the united states to tour because you guys have sold out in australia you sold out in in england the uk malaysia and i wanted to bring you over to the states because i know how big of a fan base you have here in the states and i know how hard it is to get visas to come over here. And I know how hard it is because my sister works for Homeland Security. Like, she is, okay, I definitely can't say what she does. She works for Homeland Security. So because I live here in Hollywood and I have the resources that I do and I have,

I have a literal immigration lawyer dealing with stuff for me. I was trying to get them to come to the States and do this big tour. And we actually started planning this February of 2020. I know this because when I went back to my lawyer in February

of 2023, it was nearly three years exactly to the date the last time i went to set this anyway so the problem is there is such a stringent requirement for entertainers to come to the united states to perform basically the standard to be able to get a working visa to come to the united states is so high like you have to get letters working visa to come to the United States is so high. Like, you have to get letters of recommendation from people in your field that are above and beyond.

So let's say, this is not how it works, but let's say I'm a director from Australia or anywhere, and I want to come to the United States to work. I have to get letters from Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, J.J. Abrams, all these people who are high up in their field to say, this guy's got the skills to be here to do this as opposed to an American who can do this. That's a lot. Why?

That's a lot because they don't want... They want to give U.S. citizens the opportunity to do this as opposed to people with skills coming from other countries who can who can tour and like make money but they want to give the leg up that and that's really what is like when it comes down to it they want to give american citizens the opportunity to make the money as opposed to foreigners coming into the united states and making the money so you have to demonstrate that you have such a high level of competence in your field. And you have to get, I was under the impression it was like three letters of recommendation.

We go through this whole process. My lawyer's like, it's 10. It's a minimum of six. 10 will be great, but a minimum of six. And this cost so much money. Because you got to pay the person that you're getting the recommendation from. Not necessarily. I had to pay the lawyer.

Yeah. The lawyer has to pay the State Department. You have fees for not just the group, each individual person. Of course. And then you have to get a guild like SAG, but it is a different guild for podcasting and variety shows. What's the podcasting guild?

Is it the radio one? It's not AFTRA. There is a separate guild. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head, but you have to get them to send a letter about a group of people they've never heard of. So then you have to give them information so they can write. And I'm like, it's a lot of work. On the application, like the first thing that we filled out,

it said examples of reaching a high standard. Excellence. Example, Oscar awards or Nobel prizes. You're just hanging out with Oscar Award winners that's the level like and I think it's and it's so expensive like ask any of our friends who are here from

the UK or Australia who's doing stand up they spend thousands of dollars doing this and I was trying to get three of them over here I remember London was talking about something like that. Yeah. So it was and it was constantly

me getting the information of my lawyer, them coming back and going we need more or we sent it to the State Department and they want more. And here's my favorite part. You can't even send the application to the State Department without having a tour schedule on the books.

So I had to go to these venues and go, hey, listen. You had to book them hypothetically. Book my group under the assumption that the State Department will grant them this visa. Because I can't even submit this until you say yes. So luckily I had just enough juice, just enough at a couple of clubs to be like, let's do this, do this as a favor for me and we'll make this happen.

And how much do comedy club venues love when you cancel shit? Awesome. Especially if they turn someone down because yeah. Yeah. Two clubs were like, if they turn someone down because. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Two clubs were like, we got names who want that weekend. I'm like,

cool, cool, cool, cool. Great. Yeah. The whole process gets to waste, you know,

all sorts of different people's time, which I think is fantastic. Yes. Yeah. It does get to waste a lot of people's time and a lot of my money. Money and time.

But the upside. And time is money as well. Yes. Oh, my God. Especially with my lawyers. That's ridiculous. Who charge by the hour. Yeah. When it eventually happens, I think Breaking Even is becoming the new goal.

I want you guys to make some money. But more than anything, I want you guys to come over here. Because I know how many fans want this to happen. I want it guys to make some money, but more than anything, I want you guys to come over here because I know how many fans want this to happen. I want it to happen. Yeah, we've been talking about it for so long. I mean, we got really far in the process. It feels like we know more now. We know way more now.

There's less unknown unknowns. Yes. To put it in a classic American terminology. It was just very much like when they came back to me and they're like, oh, no, you need a minimum of six letters. Like a minimum. That's a lot of letters. Yeah, I know. No one writes letters anymore either.

Would it have to be from a touring comedian or just comedian, producer, booker, venue, like somebody in the field who has personal knowledge of them and how good they are. Do comedy club owners count or bookers? I mean, the letters I got were from Will and a producer. A TV producer? No, I think it was a tour producer from a tour you guys sold out. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, that was from the British tour. Yeah, and that was fine. They didn't tell me these weren't going... Oh, wait, wait. There was one where they're like, he didn't sign this... He signed it electronically or didn't sign... Something like that.

And I was like, cool, you guys could have told me this... They're just making it harder..... Something like that. And I was like, cool, you guys could have told me this fucking three months ago. And every time there's feedback, you go back to this time-wise, back to the start of the process again? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and here's the fun part. Here's the fun part. You could pay the standard fee to submit the application,

which is a not insignificant amount of money. Okay. And they may get back to you in six months. Maybe. Or you can pay an extraordinary amount of money, and they will be required to get back to you in two weeks. So it's either you sit and wait, you don't pay, and you sit and wait, or you do pay, and then even when they get back to you,

they could get back to you like they did to me and said, hey, we need more information. So you could pay an arm and wait, or arm and a leg. Exactly, exactly. So that's our relationship. Anyway, I'm here on the holiday or the vacation at the end of the supposed tour, which didn't happen. Yes, the tour was – But I'm still going to do the vacation at the end, which is nice.

So that's how – that's mine and Matt's relationship along with Jess and Dave, who at some point I hope to meet. But I really wanted to make that happen this year. But we know more. Are you going to try again for next year? Well, the upside is my lawyer is like, you already paid this money. The process is ongoing. The process is on hold until we get a solid set of dates and the letters of recommendation.

But I've already paid the money, so it's essentially sitting in a trust. Well, that's good. At least they don't make you go again, because that would be hard to justify probably second time around. Oh, yeah. When I explain this to the IRS, I'm looking forward to explaining this major law fee to my accountant at tax time. You're thinking they're going gonna think you're laundering no but it's gonna be i think it's because it's i've never paid that much in legal fees with nothing to show are you in trouble no but usually when i pay legal fees there's

something to show yeah there's a there's some sort of receipts on the books and come back and go yeah i paid this much to make this much or to lose this much but it's never been i just paid this much and absolutely nothing came of it because the state department fucked me how many more letters would you need or do you have any of them i think minimum i need three more can the sean wrought one I can write it. Whether they'll take it or not, that's a whole other story. So could you get it from, like, let's say Russell Peters? Yeah, if Russell Peters would write a letter for them. Russell, if you're listening.

All you got to do is pop up to the show when he goes, hey, you want time? You know what? Funny that you say time. Because you write this letter. As a matter of fact, don't even write it. I got it written. You just sign it. Yeah.

And I'm going to videotape you signing it. Because if he's going to give you five minutes on this show, I'll just sign this letter. I don't need the time. I'm just going to sign this for my guys. I appreciate that. But that is our relationship. But I'm glad you still made it over here.

Yeah, having a great time. How was last night? Are we going to talk about that? I know this is more about ghosts and stuff. No, no, we start off. Sometimes we spend three minutes talking about ghosts at the end of an episode. I was listening to your first birthday episode today while I was wandering the streets. With Fumi, Abhi?

Yeah, it was great. wandering the streets. With Fumi, Abhi? Yeah, it was great. I loved how much he was afraid to even talk about a photo that you had. Yeah. He's like, I can't. He didn't want to see it.

That was fantastic. It made me really want to see that photo. Oh, you'll see it. I'm glad you said that. You'll see it. So how has your holiday been? What have you done? I went to Chicago for four nights and saw all the sights there. Gary, Indiana.

Right. Had a Chicago-style hot dog, deep dish pizza, a shot of Malort. What's Malort? Malort's like a Chicago specialty. It's sort of famously disgusting uh great chicago-based liquor and it um i think it's maybe you've got a european origin but yeah they i think they kind of make uh they make tourists drink it okay all right it's like i got away with it i was there four nights and it was late on the fourth night that it started coming out. So close. Sounds gross. It's like when you guys make us eat Vegemite.

Well, that's different. We like Vegemite. I like Vegemite too. It took me a while. As a kid, I hated it. I have some. What is it? Somebody sent some.

It's a yeast extract that you spread on toast. Yep. That look is exactly how it tastes. I think it's an extract from the beer yeah brewing process they take the yeast like very thick yeah black tarish sort of yeah doesn't sound delicious no it's based on an english one called marmite yeah and we ripped that off and called it vegemite and somehow yeah like most of our australian icons it's sort of just been ripped off somewhere else. So you take the yeast and put it on more bread.

Yeah, that's right. It's just carbs on carbs. As someone who's very particular with your diet, I'm sure you'd love the sound of double carbs. And tar just sounded all the way messed up. Tar. That's very salty. It's just like thick and salty. But yeah, as a kid, I hated it.

But I've got a real taste for it now. And it goes great with like, you know, avocado on toast and stuff. A little bit. That's the key. A little bit. Well, that's how you start off. But then you start chasing the high and you have to get thicker and thicker amounts. I put on quite a lot now just to feel something, you know.

As I get older and my taste buds die that's hilarious sounds kind of nasty too as you're describing i'm like what are we talking about all of a sudden i had a fan sent me some actually he met you at one of your shows because he was listening to one of my old podcasts and i was i was talking about you guys this was long before i had reached out to you about this. Yeah, right. And he actually went to one of your shows because he's in Australia. And he met you. Yeah, right.

I'm very approachable. Yeah. But he sent me some. And he wrote the instructions down. But I'm me, so I didn't read the instructions. And had I read the instructions, I would have read the part where he said, start with a little bit. A small amount.

Instead, I, like, smattered it on like peanut butter. Yeah, yeah. Spread that shit over. That's what you would assume, I reckon. Yes. You would assume that. Most spreads, you want a bit of it on there. Yeah, and then my heart went, don't do this.

Don't do this. One bite, and I was like, oh like oh man i'm craving it right now the more you're talking about i'm absolutely craving it so i'm glad to hear you got a jar i got somewhere around here somewhere uh so chicago you went to chicago yes i saw a couple of like improv shows right chicago's big for improv yeah apparently that's the one city where it's bigger than stand-up yes absolutely and because it's like in melbourne there's like schools that teach chicago style improv right so yeah i knew that was the that's the place to yeah because they have second city and io and yeah we had annoyance yeah that's the guy who started annoyance his name was uh mick and he uh like

he's directed like tina and Stephen Colbert and stuff oh wow so I had this shot of Malort with him and he said he had like a real it was this you know

older guy the croaky voice said I haven't had a shot of Malort in eight years right I was like this is an honour what an honour

yeah so when the locals aren't even having it, you know. Yeah, excellent. Deshawn, how are you? I'm fantastic. I think I'm high. And I haven't even smoked or anything. Why?

The Laker game. Oh, yeah, the Laker game. I thought you were talking about this crazy heat that came out of nowhere again. It was freezing this morning. It's always, it goes cold goes cold extremely hot and then cold again i had yesterday was the first time i had running pants on because you know me i'll rain i'll wear my ranger panties all day long it's so cold i had the running pants and a jacket and gloves and a hat almost put on a balaclava just to go running. And then I came out to grab something in here earlier,

and it was so hot. I was like, oh, no, I'm hanging my laundry outside because it'll be done in a half hour. I went to the store, and I was like, yo, this is crazy. Like, I want to put the windows down, but it's hot. Oh, it's so hot. And my sister thinks I'm going to rub it in because she lives in the Midwest. Now I'm like, nah, I'm not rubbing it in.

I'm actually complaining a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the difference between Chicago and here in weather is pretty immense. Oh, yeah, it's pretty brutal. I mean. And it was warm. That was sad. Jeez, it's warm at the moment.

But it was, you know, warm. For them. And you're wearing a jacket. Yeah. Yeah. But it was nice. It was just, like, very mild. But here, this is pretty hectic weather for autumn.

Yeah. For the fall. This is kind of how we do it. Yeah, it doesn't really get cold until February. Because it's like 30 degrees today, almost. It was like 29. In Chicago? No, I don't know what that is in Fahrenheit.

Oh, that's about 80. 80 degrees. It's like it's hot. Yeah. This is's hot. Yeah. This is summertime weather. Yeah. And I did not pack one pair of boardies or shorts at all. So I'm going to the shops after this

and getting some more weather appropriate clothes. I don't know what I was thinking. I think I just didn't look past Chicago on my trip. I Googled Chicago weather, and then I packed, forgetting that I'm going to deserts next. California, then Vegas. But Vegas could be cold, though, too.

Yeah. Really? Yeah, you can be careful. Especially at night. Well, I'm ready. I've got three jumpers, and I've got all long pants. Yeah, it can get really cold out there. Okay, well, that's good news because I'm prepared for that.

That's how the deserts do. It's really hot That's true And it's super cold And people forget Southern California is a desert We're not supposed to have green Yeah, right It's a desert

So it's hot during the day I mean like Iraq Jesus 120 degrees during the day And then it's like 30 at night It was so ridiculous That it got so hot out there Like 100

Over 100 Like not like 115 Like 20s and 30s. Why? I remember one time I looked and I was like, why? Why does it have to be this hot? It don't make no sense. Yeah, I'm trying to do the math,

but that's really hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I guess deserts are famously hot. Because you know how when people are in the cold and it's freezing, then it goes up a couple degrees and everybody's like, oh, it's heat wave. Yeah.

So there, when it's like 130, 140, and it drops down to 90, they're like, oh, it's cold. They're putting on the balaclavas. It's not cold. I think it's 60 Celsius for you. Holy shit, I've never experienced that, I don't think. Oh, yeah. I think in Melbourne, maybe you get the peak,

it's sort of mid to high 40s at the absolute peak of my life, I reckon. But never 50s or towards 60s. That feels like people would be dying. Oh, yeah. You felt like you were dying. My soul was definitely dying the entire time I was there. And that's like you're saying. It depends on what you're used to.

Because there was a heat wave in the UK a few years ago where people were dying. And it was this weather. Yep. It was, you know, it was hot, uh, you know,

80s and 90s and people, they have no AC, they have no air conditioning. Their buildings just aren't set up for it. Oh, and old people are just, they're dropping dead. It was wild.

They should do like, uh, what was the episode of, uh, I'm married with children. He didn't have no air. Our bunny took his family to the grocery store, and they sat in the freezer aisle. Yeah, that's what they should be doing.

Just go to the shopping malls and stuff. Do me a favor. Hold your mic up here a little more. Yeah, because the last episode was. I'm wiry. It's bad. It's wiry. It's okay.

So, yeah, let's talk about last night. Yes. The good stuff. Matt came to town, and I wanted him to have the most Los Angeles experience possible. And we did the most Los Angeles thing you could think of. We did. We got to go to the Laker game, sit in the box right next to Carlton or Alfonso Rivera, whatever you like to call him.

From the Fresh Prince. I like to call him. From the Fresh Prince. I like to call him Carlton. I messaged mates from home in a group chat. I said, I'm in a box at the lake. I sent them a photo. They're like, what's happening? Who are you? And then I said, and next door, in the box next door, Carlton from Fresh Prince is there.

And they're like, holy shit. But then they said, if you meet him, don't call him that. Even back home, they're like, he doesn't like to be called that. You got to call him Alfonso Roberto. Yeah. Yeah. But that's, or whatever his name is. Alfonso Ribeiro.

Yeah. Ribeiro. Yeah. He probably doesn't like Roberto either. No, no. It was awesome, though. But that was so cool. And then, you know, yeah, it was.

It was a great game. Lakers won. It was a great, the perfect game because perfect game because Lando got a lead, and it just got swallowed in the second quarter, and then Magic built a little lead, and they were holding it and holding it right until the end, and I think the Lakers only hit the front in the last 30, 40 seconds. Yep, that's all you needed.

And it was perfect because it got everyone. I think I asked you going in, I'm like, you should win tonight, right? And you said, yeah, we should win. So I think if it was just Lakers winning the whole time, it would have been like, all right, good win. But because it felt like there was a – The up and down. Yeah.

It really got the – It was intense. The vibe, it got it exciting. Because you never want to blow out, even if your team's winning. Like, blowouts are boring. Yeah, exactly. So for a neutral fan, even though I was going for Lakers last night, it was the perfect result.

Actually, the perfect result would have been LeBron with a buzzer beater to win. But it wasn't that far off. No, it wasn't. He even started hitting big shots late. And then he points up to the box at us. He did. He said, that one was for you. That was such a nice – I thought that was a really nice touch from him.

And thanks for organizing that, Tom. Yeah, absolutely. He said, happy birthday to Sean. That was amazing. We had a great, great time. We had, yeah, had a great meal beforehand. Had some fancy beer called a Fat Unicorn. Yes.

Chubby Unicorn. Chubby Unicorn. Chubby Unicorn, California. That's all I remember. My girlfriend had a really good time at the Lakers game. She really was into it. She was cheering and everything. She kept turning around to me.

She's like, are you on your phone? I was like, no, I'm watching the game and eating ice cream. You did. We got a photo with the championship trophy from maybe the most recent one. You didn't. You didn't even bother getting a photo. I'm like, geez, what a local that he won't't even he's like i've seen plenty of those because remember they said oh we were all like oh it's not the real trouble there's no way and they're like no it's the real one because you

got close to touching it yeah and the mind that goes you don't touch it yeah i was gonna touch it just because he said that you gotta escort it out i think I am a little spoiled. Escorted out, sorry. I think I am a little spoiled. Excorted. Being here and getting to do as much as I do. I'm very spoiled. And you'd be hanging out with touring comics from like Iowa and stuff sometimes, and they'd become like wide-eyed, I imagine, through big cities, L.A., and you're going, all right, right yeah we'll show you we'll show

you our championship trophies i mean i think i've touched them all i think the younger comics are like that like more the more seasoned veteran comics they've been around the block so they don't really give a shit but the younger comics are definitely like they ever tell you a story about the kid at the at the improv so this is what i used to tell this story. So I was hanging out. No, this is at the Laugh Factory. I was hanging out at the Laugh Factory in Hollywood. And I wasn't on the show.

I was just hanging out with some friends. A bunch of my friends were on the show that night. And sitting next to me was this kid from the Midwest, from Iowa, for all intents and purposes. And he just kept talking to me about how much he loved comedy. And he was a comedy buff. And he knew comedy history. And he just kept talking to me about how much he loved comedy. And like he, he was a comedy buff and he knew comedy history and he loved this bit and that bit. And this, like, he was asking me who my favorite comics are. Doesn't know who I am. Doesn't know I'm a comedian. I haven't said a word about it. I'm just like, yeah, I'm just, I mean, I'm, I love

these comics. I'm here to see them. They're my friends. And he's like, oh man, I want to be comic one day. I I'd love to be a comedian when I'm like, you can do it, man. This is Hollywood. Everybody's, you know, everybody's dream comes true at some point so I'm like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom I get up and go take a piss and Enrique was running the club my best friend and I go to the bathroom, the kid comes in

he goes to the bathroom, he keeps talking and he's a nice kid I'm not shitting on him at all, he's just a very sweet kid just kept talking, kept talking and then Enrique busts the door open in the bathroom goes tom someone didn't show up you're going next i'm like do i get to finish he goes no put it away zip up and get get to the stage i'm like okay this kid has no idea who i am all he knows is the guy he's been talking to goes to take a leak and then the manager of the laugh factory is like,

you're going on stage next. So in this kid's brain, all he's got to do is take a piss at the right bathroom. And he's closing the show. We need you. Yeah, that's all he knows. He didn't know who I was. I didn't talk to Enrique the entire time.

He just knows this dude he was talking to. You sign up for the comedy reserve. It can't happen to me. That's what he's thinking. It can happen to me. That's what he's thinking. It could happen to me. All I got to do is take a piss at the right urinal in Hollywood. That's crazy. And then the important thing now is.

I ate a shit. Yeah, okay. He went. I totally bought it. And he fully lost any of his ambition. He's like, actually, that's not for me. I'm going to get my resume together. Yeah.

I'm going to go back to school. Yeah, I ate a bag of dicks that night. Really? No. It's fine. It was not my best. I was like,

I literally had 30 seconds to figure out my set. It's not the ideal prep. No. Like, dick in my hand. I can go either way. Yeah,

because then you got to start, like, you're walking to the stage and you're thinking, why are you on stage? Like, ah. Yeah.

I don't know what to think. I don't know what to talk about I mean I had the guns I had the weapons in the holster I was like I know what to start with I know what to say just to you know but it was like I don't have anything new it's just like here's my A material that I've been doing for fucking six months

and fucking take it or leave it and I don't give a shit but that was fine yeah so the game was great we sat in the box my company box at the crypto and And fucking take it or leave it, and I don't give a shit. But that was fine. Yeah, so the game was great. We sat in the box, my company box at the Crypto. So good. It was good. Yes.

We ended the night with Deshawn dishing out wisdom to a young football player. Do you remember that? Yeah. Okay. Because he kept saying hope and wish. Yeah. Stop saying that. I hate when people say that about your dreams i really it probably like it really bothers me when people do that like if you really want to

do it say things like you're going to do it or you always speak positive on yourself if not you then who yep that's how i feel yep absolutely i was getting some uh second degree inspiration some of it was bouncing off him onto me. I'm like, maybe I can achieve anything. Maybe I can get a visa. Get this tour going. So tell us about yourself.

Where are you from in Australia? How long have you been doing comedy? How'd you get into comedy? I'm from Melbourne, which is like the capital of Victoria down the southeast. That's where the Olympics was at, right? Yeah, 1956 Olympics.

Yeah. Wasn't there another one more recent? Sydney Olympics was in 2000. That's right. Sydney's the bigger, more well-known city. That's the one with the bridge and the opera house. Yes. Melbourne doesn't have anything I don't think that anyone would know of.

Apart maybe in comedy, it's the big comedy festival in Australia. The Melbourne Comedy Festival. That's right. And they say it's the third biggest in the world, I think, after Montreal and Edinburgh. Huh, really? Yeah, I believe so. Okay.

Someone says that. Somebody. But America is sort of outside of that world. No, I think the Melbourne Comedy Festival is pretty big. I mean, Montreal is a huge deal. Edinburgh is a big deal. Melbourne is a big deal. We have friends that go there regularly.

Not us. We're not that good. But it's also a different sort of system here, right? It's like in Australia, most comics will work up an hour each year and then do it through a bunch of different festivals yeah yeah yeah including edinburgh melbourne right adelaide like there's a bunch of different ones in australia okay but over here you're more likely to you build up a like a half hour like a head

headlining slot is your sort of main goal is that right 40 minutes or whatever it is or is the goal these days not just the states States, because are you on, do you live in Chicago or do you live in L.A.? Yep. Because L.A. is more to get on TV, movies, stuff like that. Yeah, because you say acting. That's part of your credits. But that's more of an L.A. thing. Like, if you want to be a comedian and actor, you come here.

And if you want to, is it? It used to be. Right. Now it's kind of like people because of social media can live wherever but yeah the goal was to build up your your fan base and your like where you could work on the road come here with a little bit of a name get the name bigger because of whatever shows or commercials then you get when you go back to work the road you get more money and stuff like that. But it's all because of your acting credits. It's all different now.

Right. Yeah. But also, like, I just co-starred on a show that got released, like, two weeks ago. Nobody gets a shit. Nobody gets a shit. Right. So you never know what the thing's going to be. You can...

Yeah, it's amazing to think about something like the... You get cast in, like, a big blockbuster movie. And now some of them, they're just pulling them, never releasing them at all. There was some sort of... Batgirl. Batgirl, yeah. You must have thought in your head,

if you're one of the stars in that, you must be thinking, this is it. Leslie Grace, who was... She was in... What's that Lin-Manuel Miranda... Washington Heights? In the Heights? No, no.

That's a Fox show from 25 years ago. Leslie Grace was in this Lin-Manuel Miranda movie. Musical. She was great. Amazing.

Like everybody else in Batgirl like Brandon Fraser. Yes, that's right. Amazing. Like everybody else in Batgirl, like Brandon Fraser. Yes, that's right. Michael Keaton. He was gonna... Keaton was gonna be Batman again. What a bummer that that hasn't turned out. I know. They were talking about if those things went

well. He was supposed to be like Samuel L. Jackson is in the Marvel Universe. As Batman. Would have been incredible. Yeah, he was supposed to show up in the. Yeah, he was supposed to show up in the Heights. So he was supposed to show up in Aquaman. I watched The Flash on the way over, and I thought he was awesome. He was awesome. The problem was

the movie was called The Flash. Right. So The Flash should have been awesome. Right? She is gorgeous. So that movie was supposed to make her career. So this is Batwoman? Batgirl. Batgirl.

That movie. That's got to hurt more than anything. I mean, your show got released. And you're telling everybody at this point, it's like, yo, I'm about to be in Batgirl. We just filmed. They were editing. They were in post.

It was basically done. That sucks. And Warner's pulled it. Which seems bizarre. Because the new president of Warner Brothers decided it would be more lucrative as a tax write-off for them to lose $90 million than to spend more money for what they said would not have been in the plan. You don't know. Right? You don't know.

You know what I think about any time when people say, oh, it's not going to work? Somebody had to go into an office one day and go, guys, I got the greatest idea. We're going to take some turtles, and they're going to step in some goo, and they're going to be able to talk, and they're going to know karate,

and they're going to love pizza, and then the rat is going to adopt and be their dad. Let's go with it. And you know what I mean? Like, if you work there, you're going to adopt and be their dad. Let's go with it. Yeah. And you know what I mean? Like, if you heard that, you're going to be like, boo, get out of my office. But look, it's one of the biggest things. The first initial pitch had to be like, this dude is crazy.

But if you took a chance and you're already done, you might as well finish it. Well, that's not how Mutant Ninja Turtles happened. They actually produced. I get what you're saying, but for the nerds who are listening how that happened was uh eastman laird actually printed the comic book themselves black and white sold out they just sold out runs so they didn't go to a company they didn't go to a marvel or dc they sold they made a shit ton of money themselves and then they sold it because no one said yes no no nobody would have said that anyway so did that happen before

Brendan Fraser blew up again because he was it was in the middle of his renaissance because surely that you've got Michael Keaton Brendan Fraser obviously they didn't give a shit got the name that in the film yeah yeah but there was so much turmoil at Warner Brothers right because David Zasloff took over

and then you had James Gunn and his producing partner now like running the show at DC so it's it was a whole they were just

cleaning the slate they were just wiping the slate clean what's your show from two weeks ago why haven't you mentioned it before now? Because of the strikes.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Like, people are... You're not allowed to. A couple of my fans have just, like, texted me and emailed me, and they're like, hey, you're on this show.

Holy shit, that is unlucky timing. Fuck. We filmed it a year ago, and I've been waiting. Oh, man. Like, I have some great stories about, like, getting cast and being on the show.

Oh. Even when on stage, he would try to talk about it, but couldn't talk about it. Yep. Yeah. That's brutal. Yeah. I mean, I can't say it, but if you go to my IMDB page, it's there. And hopefully, yeah, maybe this week.

You never know. Maybe. It could be resolved or not. But you were saying? If it doesn't get resolved this week, it's not going to happen until January. Yeah. Personally, I don't think so. Well, fingers crossed.

Hopefully a good result happens. Hopefully. You know I'm on the side of the big studios. Little joke there. Little joke. I'm just happy that I know that my ex watches this show. So I'm going to show up and she's going to hate it. Oh, beautiful.

Yeah, revenge. I love that. I love you've still got that bitterness in your heart. Absolutely. As you should. Never let that go anywhere. That's healthy. It's healthy to just hold on to it.

Just hold that hatred. It drives you. It makes me a better actor. I'll take the last dance. What if it was like a scene where you had to be angry? You're not going to have anything to pull from. Keep that anger. Keep it.

I'm just handing Tom an iPad now with a video of his ex saying Tom will never achieve anything. He'll certainly never be in one of my favorite shows. And that seems to be fueling him. Multiple episodes. That happened to a friend of mine, actually. not an ex but um we both had this i don't know she would have been an agent or a manager and one time he came to her he didn't have no credit at the time but he's like i want this done this this this not like that but you know he she got mad at him like i don't need to deal with you then you're never gonna make it like month later, he booked like a commercial.

He got a couple more commercials. And every time he had booked something bigger, I'd always hit him up and go, you're not going to make it. You're never going to make it. And then when he got on, what was the show? He got, I think it's called Good Girls. It's the one, the three ladies were robbing. He's the bad guy. Okay.

Tatted up. I was like, you're never gonna make it. You're trash. He'd just always be booking. I'm like, I always wondered if that lady is flipping through and sees him and wants to slap herself. My first agent,

one of my buddies is a client of his. When my buddy was like, hey, you should look at Tom. He goes, I already got three guys that look like him. The uh like the next week i booked like a very lucrative commercial but they don't look like this yeah and my buddy calls him up he's like you just missed a pretty healthy commission yeah and like the next week he he he signed me and then i've been with him ever since does Does he back that commission? No, no, no. Too late now.

Too late now. Snooze, you lose. Should have did the right thing when he did it. Yeah, but comedy's different here. I mean, even now. It's different from 10 years ago when I moved here. Right. Because now it's social media.

The plan used to be you get good at comedy, you move to L.A., you get seen, you wind up being Jeff Foxworthy or Rodney Carrington or one of the comics who has a sitcom. Like, that was the goal back in the day. It used to be, in the 70s and 80s, it was like, you come here, you get on The Tonight Show, you're Freddie Prinze Jr., and now you're in Chico and the Man

or you're Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor or whatever. Or, you know, later you wind up being Ellen DeGeneres? Yeah. Anybody like that. Tim Allen. People came through.

Yeah. But sitcoms aren't even a thing anymore. Nope. They're not even a thing. So, like, you come out here and you're like, so what is the plan? You come out and do a movie?

You're a dramatic actor? I mean, one of my buddies, uh, Mary Lynn, right? Chubb. She's like, she's a hilarious comedian.

She's known for being on 24 for like nine seasons or some shit like that. So, and it's like when, uh, when sag, it was on full house. Like people didn't know he was the dirtiest fucking comic. That was such a fun reveal.

When I saw some of his stand-up years later. Yeah. Oh, my God. And when, so, like, I've been at clubs when people are, like, when Mary Lynn goes on stage, and people are, like, aren't you the girl from, like, 24? Right. And then she's a hilarious comedian. They're, like, we didn't even know.

So, like, I don't even know what the goal is anymore. There's not sitcoms, but there's still lots of comedies, right? Like, Tiffany Haddish is starring in this sort of murder comedy. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, the sitcoms have gone, though. It's not like when it was in the day. That literally would boost people. Like we said, Tim Allen's, the Kevin James.

Signed for, yeah. So if you can get. Ray Romano. What's funny to me is if you pay attention, because someone was asking, like, why is Carlton a, like, you get stereotyped. Because usually the comedian comes in and plays themselves. They're not a character.

And they're usually their name with a different last name. Yes. And then so you don't have nothing to break away from. You've always been yourself in that sitcom. Now, the characters of the sitcom are usually so funny, and we love them for that character. That's why it's hard, especially if it's successful, for us to see you branch off of anything else.

Yeah. You still hear, Kramer is still called Kramer. Yeah. Carlton's still called Carlton. It's still Carlton. Like, if you see anybody from one of them ones, like, if you see Jaleel White, you're going to be like, Steve Urkel. And that was years ago, but he killed it so good,

we don't want to see you do anything else. I think that's why on the show he started doing a second character to try and break out. And that didn't even work. It was a clever idea, but yeah. You were Steve Urkel. You were the greatest Steve Urkel ever. They should have just did a movie with it and capitalized more on the Urkel.

Yeah, and I think people end up getting pretty bitter about being stuck in that bit. But you're still working, though. Yeah, I mean, there's got to be part of you that's... I know I think some people are and some people aren't, but some people are like, oh, I thank God for that character or whatever. Oh, yeah. But other people, it's like a curse. Some people ride that.

Yeah, some people hate it and some people ride it to the grave. But I think if you embrace it, maybe you do get other roles and stuff, but you've got to be thankful that people even know you. Because before, you were just walking around as you. Now, at least they can go, oh, my gosh, I love you and whatta, whatta, whatta, or whatever it is. Unless they're like, I love you and whatta, whatta, whatta, and you're like, that wasn't me. Yeah.

I've had that. And they go, yes, it is. Why would I lie about that? Why, yeah. I know who I'm not. So 45 minutes into the episode, let's ask the question. What is your relationship with the paranormal? Do you have one?

I really like it. I want to believe. I've been watching the X-Files lately. Yeah. And I want to be more a David Duchovny than a Gillian Anderson, who, like, no matter how much proof she has in front of her, not Gillian Anderson, her character. Scully.

Yeah. She's someone who broke her. Not Gillian Anderson, her character. Scully. Scully, sorry. She's someone who broke her... Oh, she's amazing. She does all sorts of stuff. She's played like the Prime Minister of England. Yeah. Have you seen Gillian Anderson lately? No.

Dude. Look her up now. Dude. She was attractive in the 90s. Yeah. She had a glow up like you would not believe. Like, you see Gillian Anderson now, and you're like, what? Let's go.

She's hotter now than she was then. And now look at her as Margaret Thatcher, if you really want to see her. Yeah, well, thanks for that. But, yeah, she's great. But yeah, her character just does not want to believe. Yeah. Mulder wants to believe. Yeah.

Scully will do anything to not believe. Scully got pregnant by an alien. And she still was like, I don't know about this. There's got to be an explanation, Mulder. So if you got pregnant by an alien matt would you man i wouldn't take me much i just need a little bit and i will i'll be all in what would that's why i want to see this photo that you show okay through me i'll be okay uh months ago okay um i'll show you that but my brain will probably say that's a trick of the light or something but

so but i and then on the podcast we were talking about before to go on we've done i've you know i've read up for different episodes about bigfoot and the mothman like so many american ones the mothman from west virginia west virginia that's right uh from uh eerie i think eerie west no no no eerie's in pennsylvania well that's weird that we that's eerie yeah whoever it was, yeah. Wherever it was. And, you know, the Loch Ness Monster. But also, like, there was this haunted house in England called the... It was haunted by the Black Monk of Pontefract.

I went to that house when we toured over there. Did you do an episode about that? Oh, I did a... I think on a live episode, we did a short spooky story each, maybe a Halloween special. Okay. So that was my one. And then like not long after we were driving basically through the neighborhood. So we, and I did have a bit of a, you know, a bit of a feel about it, but it's hard to know how much of that, you know.

It was in your head, psychosomatic. I don't know how much of that you put in. It was in your head, psychosomatic. It's like I went in Santa Clara the other day. I went to the Winchester Mystery House. Yep. That was one of our first episodes. And the spookiest thing was I couldn't figure out how to buy a ticket. So I wasn't able to get in, and no one answered the phone.

The door was closed. That's so funny. But I took some photos out the front and it looked kind of fun. You didn't go in at all? I wasn't. I couldn't figure out how to get in there. I think you have to buy tickets online.

I don't know. Yeah, I tried to do that. Anyway, it was cool to be near it. And then I went for a beautiful Mexican dinner just up the road. It was funny how close it was to this very new shopping street. road. It was funny how close it was to this very new shopping spree.

It's beautiful. Hey, this is haunted, by the way. Yeah. How did you grow up? What was your family's view on the supernatural? Were you religious? Yeah, we went to church every Sunday. And so I guess I believed in for a long time, I believed in

the ghost of Jesus. The Holy Trinity. Yeah, all of that. every Sunday and so I guess I believed in for a long time I believed in the ghost of Jesus right and all the Holy Trinity no heaven and yeah all of that fully believe that till 17 and sort of just fell fell off it when I read some an essay by a pop-punk singer I'm not shocked by this. I'm not shocked by this at all. Jim from Pennywise wrote some sort of a blog. And I was... They're a local band, Hermosa Beach. Not too far from here.

We're going to actually be there later. Yes. I'll have to get a photo next to the... Because every show they ever played, he'd say, We're Pennywise from Hermosa Beach, California. And I've never really... I haven't been able to connect that.

Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so he wrote some article, which just was very like basic. This is why I don't believe in all that stuff. And I'm like, oh, sure. I've never even critically thought about this at all. And it was amazing how it fell away. I went to school, a Catholic school in the morning fully believing in it all and i went home for dinner i didn't believe in any of it it was so weird but do you remember

what it was in that article that made you it was just stuff it was it was just all the things that you've heard probably a million times about how uh people used to need explanations for why it rained and why there was thunder and and we know now why there are those things. And of course, I mean, I only know them because people say that's the truth. I don't, I mean, I understand science as much as I understand faith. But still, I'm like, yeah, no, I believe the scientists. Yeah. But yeah.

scientists yeah but uh yeah so but i think uh i was trying to think about times i've thought i've i've um experienced anything like that and i remember my granddad died and this was after i stopped believing that sort of stuff but he was it was the first sort of family member i knew died and i was um i think i was like 18 19 and i And when I went to bed that night, I felt, I swear, or I swore at the time, now I think I was probably just wanting to feel comforted or whatever, but I felt him sitting at the end of the bed and putting his hand on my leg in it, not in a weird way, just sort of comforting sort of way.

And yeah, and I felt really comforting and stuff. And I fully believe that for a while. Looking back now, I'm like, it's probably just, you know, my mind trying to be kind to me all the time. Right, right. Okay. And I haven't, yeah,

I can't really remember anything since. You know, apart from, I'll watch a horror movie, and then all of a sudden you're feeling. Yeah. Then you want to go to the bathroom. That's everything. I remember the first time I watched it,

Ragnophobia. I thought there were spiders on me. Yeah, yeah, you could feel it. Oh, my gosh, it was so gross. You see a spider web, and all of a sudden you can feel them on you. Yeah. It's like when you're laying in bed sometimes

and you feel maybe like a bug or something, and you think you feel a bug, and the rest of the night you're just scratching your leg. You're like, oh, man, my bed's infested with whatever, and it's nothing. It's just the wind blowing your leg hair a little bit. Yeah. So that's why I'm keen on it, though.

Really, I'd love to believe. Even the idea of ghosts probably used to trip me out a bit, but now I'm like, man, I'd love to see ghosts. What would it take for you to believe? What kind of evidence? I'd probably have to see something myself and be confident it's a real thing. Okay. Which is probably a very high...

I just think my brain will explain away photos and videos. Your brain's not going to explain away this. Okay, well, I'm looking forward to this. So we're going to show you this, and then we'll wrap up. Because we're actually going to do an episode of your podcast. Yeah, that's right. Who Knew It with Matt Stewart. I'm looking forward to that.

I've got a few. I really want to see what you say about this picture slash video. I love to see when people try to justify. Oh, right. So, yeah, because was that the first time you played it or showed it to Fuma Arby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every once in a while, we'll show people just to see what they say.

Yeah, because I... Yeah, listening to it, I'm like, I'm dying to see what this is. Okay, so did you hear the explanation of what happened? So you were near a mining area. Yeah. I thought the story was going to the place because you went for dinner and a woman said that um they were closed yeah and then you i thought you're gonna say and then we asked someone else and they said

the woman directed sound here and they said there hasn't been a woman at a restaurant for 70 years that would have been crazy that would have been crazy so uh so yeah you know the basic story we went to this mine. We take some pictures. We leave. We don't see anything until later that night when this comic is like, hey, what is this? So what you're looking at is a screen grab of his phone. He actually recorded this.

So this is actually a video. But all of those photos that you see, you're only going to see this in one photo. And these were taken moments from each other. So you keep that mic near your mouth. We're going to let this play and you tell me what you see. Holy shit! That is... Whoa!

He's going to adjust the contrast. Oh man, that's a head without a body. Yeah! Holy shit, that's a that's a that's a head without a body yeah yeah holy shit that's like a and you you swear that like every photo either side of it there was nothing there nothing there wow that's like clear as day ahead yeah because sometimes you'll see him and it'll be like it'll be a lens flare yeah people say And people say, this is the spirit. Yeah, yeah. It's like, no, that's the light.

Yeah, or dirt. Yeah. That's a speck on the lens. Wow. But that's very clearly a face. And you were there. I was. And you trust this friend isn't fucking with you.

No. Yes, absolutely. Wow. I actually have video of me taking. I have video of me. Videoing him taking pictures. videoing him taking this photo. So the moment that he's taking this photo, I have video of that moment happening. That is, I mean, trusting you and your trust in your friend.

So there's a couple of steps there. But if that's all legit, I don't know how to explain that at all. Yeah. That's very clearly a face. He looks like Australian comedy director Henry Stone, who I'm pretty sure could not have been there that day. Because he died in 1869. Wow.

And that's the thought, this is a ghost of a miner? That's our thinking. That's what we think. I wonder if you can get records of... Here, so my girlfriend works at a very reputable... You know where she works. She works at a museum, and she got me the list of names of the miners

who were killed in that mine. So part of my research project that I've been working on, on top of the other nine projects that I've been doing, is trying to track this person down. This has made me feel like a feeling. I don't know how to explain it. Really? Like in my chest, I can feel like.

Really? Yeah, it's surreal. I love it. I remember the first time I saw it, I said, that's a face. Yeah. And there's no, where is the body? Yeah. So there's no way to fake it.

And sometimes, you know, people say, I saw a face in the clouds or in a tree or something. It's like, I can see how you see that in the grain of the wood, but that is just, that is a face. Without a body. Yeah. Just the face. And it was not there a split second earlier and a split second later.

Yep. All those photos that you saw at the beginning of that video are, those are just moments from each other and none of those none of these photos have have that image in there yeah that's sick i love it well that's great so we're all gonna live forever as long as we have unfinished business that's why it's anything yes the. The key is to procrastinate. And that's the key to eternal life. Well, I haven't returned

a movie to Blockbuster, so there it is. That's going to get harder to do now. I know. There's only one left, and it's in Oregon. And I'll say, can you return it? There's one in Oregon. There's only one left. Well, this has been fun, man. I'm excited to do

Who Knew It with Matt Stewart which is on the Do Go On podcast where can people find you on the internet? Matt Stewart Comedy on Instagram and I think my website's mattstewartcomedy.com I love that you're not sure about this well I mean

I'm not often looking it up but I do believe in myself I'll tell you that for nothing to Sean yeah Matt Stewart Comedy mainly and I think if in myself. I'll tell you that for nothing to Sean. Yeah, Matt's true comedy mainly. And I think if you look up Matt's true comedy, you'll find me. And, of course, do go on podcast. Yeah.

If people like spooky stuff, it's more like talking about the history of things. Like the Bigfoot story, the Mothman stories. Graveheart Maso from Weekly Planet is on that episode. But it's not just spooky stuff. It's everything. No, that's right. It's the life of Marilyn Monroe. Yes. And the history of World War I.

And there's a bunch of, like, Army vet badasses. Yeah. We call them World War II badasses. Chesty McPuller or Puller McChesty, the Marine guy. Chesty Puller. That's right. Yeah, Chesty Puller. But who's the airplane guy? Oh, yeah, the Red Baron? No, no, that's right. Yeah, Chesty Puller. But who's the airplane guy?

Oh, yeah, the Red Baron? No, no, no, no. Stole some money, jumped out of a plane. Oh, yeah, DB Cooper. DB Cooper, yeah, because you have a Patreon level, the DB Cooper level. That's the Dreamboat Cooper. Yes. We figured out that's what the DB stood for.

That man was hot. Well, did you see Loki last did you see loki last season the yeah supposedly do you think this means anything so i was in chicago and then on the last night i got back to my hotel and i put on the new episode of loki and it was set in chicago what are the what are the odds of that and it was set because it was like I just learnt that day about the Great Chicago Fire and that's why they call it the Second City because they rebuilt

it. And then they go either side of the fire in Loki because he can time travel now. He's a Norse god who for some reason now is like a time travelling bureaucrat. Yes, you basically explained it. That's about right.

I've only got into the world of comics stuff like in the last five years or something. Because of Mesa? Yeah, exactly, because of Mesa. And now it's, I mean, yeah, I don't know how to explain how the Loki journey arrived there. It's a circular story. I mean, that's his whole journey arrived there it's uh it's a it's a circular story i mean that's his whole journey it's just it never ends right that's the whole deal with

ob and the the circle of the the sacred timeline great character yeah good to see kiwi kwan yeah he's great he's so good so happy for that guy. Won an Oscar after like 25 years of Hollywood going, who are you? Yeah. Harrison Ford, remember? Yeah. Apparently that made him real happy one time. Yeah. It's a beautiful story.

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The show is at Scary Funny Show across the internet. I am super happy that we got Matt on the show when Jess and Dave come over. I'll have to get them on the show as well. Yeah, they'll love it, I'm sure. Dave definitely believes. Dave, yes. He's a big believer.

Jess, big skeptic. I would love to have them both on the show. Same time. Yeah. That'd be awesome. The show is at Scary Funny Show across the internet. If you want to support us, grab a t-shirt, a mug, a mouse pad, a poster, whatever you want from our Tee Public store.

Tom, just like that day I read Jim from Pennywise's blog, and I started the day a believer and ended a non-believer today in between seeing that photo I started this podcast a non-believer and I'm finishing somewhat of a believer I am so happy to hear that

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but happy Halloween. Thank you for listening, and this is 50-something-plus episodes of The Scary Funny Show. So thank you again for listening. Keep laughing or die trying. We'll see you next time.