Who Shat On The Floor At My Wedding? And Other Crimes - S2 E3 The Case Of The Tiny Suit/Case - ‘Casual tie’

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

The trio come up with a genius but high risk idea that will put them in a very uncomfortable and potentially dangerous situation. Will it be worth it? Is danger a necessity to crack this case? Preparations for Sweden continue with the interrogations of 3 young men, one of whom brings with him a significant conflict of interest. And a shocking revelation comes to light which takes the mystery to a whole new bizarre level.  Follow us on instagram for the case evidence and behind the scenes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hi, it's Fido. Start the semester with a new phone and a plan full of data without breaking your budget. We have everything you need for an A-plus year. Come check out our special back-to-school offers. They'll leave you with more cash in your pocket for the stuff you love. Select plans even include data overage protection so you can go all out without going over. Don't wait. Our back-to-school offers are only available for a limited time. Go to Fido.ca or a Fido store near you and save all semester long. Fido. At your side.

Previously on The Case of the Tiny Suitcase. Wondering why a suit with a vest size 140 in blue suddenly hangs on my porch. What comes next? Your house is very close to Christina's, is that correct? Yeah. Can you see Christina's porch from where you live or not? I can see her car. Not the whole car, but I can see sometimes that the car is home.

Tonight when I got home it was there. An exquisite leather suitcase filled with life's necessities. Pillow, towel, goggles, toiletries, underwear, shirt, cap, newspaper and a pair of nylon socks. When I told my mother about the suitcase, and she's not easy to worry, but she was worried. She didn't like that I was living alone when she heard about the suitcase and she's not easy to worry. But she was worried. She didn't like that I was living alone when she heard about the suitcase. Yeah, it is upsetting. I'm having another outburst, aren't I?

Yeah, it's okay. Don't shush me, Lauren. We have to solve this case. We cannot walk away having not solved another crime. Do I dare to leave home again? You cannot eat authentic IKEA meatballs if you are not in the land of IKEA. We have no choice.

We need to go to Sweden. It's very intense, actually. It's like succeed or fail. We absolutely have to solve the crime this season. I cannot handle going through those bad reviews again. Do you remember the shit we got for not solving the crime

in season one? This podcast is a tremendous waste of time. The ending was not worth waiting for. They solved nothing. The listeners are not wrong. We need to solve this crime.

So, action plan going forward is... This is an exclusive behind-the-scenes recording from one of our weekly status meetings. This content is not usually featured in the podcast for reasons that will be obvious to you when you hear this part. Well, what do you want? Can I have a chocolate? Yeah, you can have a chocolate. But not my chocolate, that's my chocolate.

And can you have this one? I want those two. Yeah. Just sort your chocolate out. But this status meeting is no ordinary status meeting. Only seconds after the chocolate issues were resolved, we came up with a genius idea. An idea that not only encapsulates our unique and iconic style of detective work, but also an idea that will make or break this investigation.

It's an idea that will put all three of us in an uncomfortable, strange and potentially dangerous situation. But if executed correctly, could genuinely help us solve this case. Listen here to the very moment this idea was born. And then if we're aiming for a trip in late June, early August, I've kind of put in like a 10-day shoot, because I feel like if we're going to make the effort to go to Sweden, we need to really, we've got quite a lot to do, and there's probably going to be some travel,

because not everyone lives in Black Lake. Yeah, definitely. I'm just wondering Midsummer is around that time. Midsummer is the 24th of June. Yeah, it'll be quite fun to be there for Midsummer too. Exactly, yeah. Awesome.

It'll be fun to be at an event with all the family and we can tell Christina to like have a party and then we can kind of watch from afar and see what happens We can be walking around the bushes and with binoculars Yes Christina has the party and we don't say that we're there but we watch from a bush

And well it kind of just started escalating from there so okay so hear me out are you saying that you want to be at the party rather than in a bush yeah can we just get to this because okay so not just any party an undercover party what we're going to do we're going to go to sweden we're going to gather everybody for a midsummer's barbecue or food fest of some sort yeah so all the suspects are going to gather the what's called the victim is going to gather it's going to be just beside the scene of the crime we will be there we're going to have our own technician on hand who's helping with the recording devices to make sure we can record these things hidden microphones hidden microphones hidden cameras

and so we're going to arrive there and we're doing this all in a place called the slaughterhouse it's not called the slaughterhouse it is a slaughterhouse

oh my god it's the only spare building that we had for the party so it wasn't like we chose it to be a slaughterhouse but it was the only

building we had in this hamlet there's a massive hook on the roof the mind actually like boggles so there's a hook hanging from the ceiling yes where you basically hoist up your your creature and then yeah carve it all up

yeah exactly it's quite a fitting place it is to investigate a crime that's that um we've got to speak to our sound guy so he thinks we need to test the equipment before we go out there yeah the only way of hiding the microphone is we have to wear a proper tie like a proper not even a bow tie the only thing that will work is a big heavy corporate tie because they're not like it doesn't have to be heavy and corporate no because it's something to do with the knot he said about how it hides the microphone without getting shuffling. So you can't wear like a thin, like lovely scarf or you can't wear a hat

because it's not in the right position of where your cap is. Wait a minute. So we have to go to a party wearing ties. It sounds like a Windsor knot to me. Yeah, it's a Windsor knot. Yeah. But how the fuck is that going to look undercover? Do you know what? If you wanted to be edgy you could like tie your winds a lot and then just cut off your tie no wait a minute this does

not there's got to be another way yeah so it's so we have to all three of us have to wear ties and then we have to explain to people while we're wearing ties. No, it's just what I was then saying to the sound guy is, so maybe we have to come out with kind of a uniform just to make it a reason for us wearing ties. This is where Karen gets a little bit carried away. No, no, no, I like where this is going. Because there's no way we can wear it. I'm not wearing a casual tie on the top of my normal outfit.

It depends how you wear it. If you've got a shirt that you can put it on with, it'll look great. Just wear denim shirts because we've all got one and then we just wear a tie with it don't force your fashion on other people i don't wear ties but you could though you if anyone in this group was to wear a tie it would be you what we could just say it's an amsterdam thing and that's how we all know what's the uniform idea so the uniform idea is everyone knows why we're there everyone knows we're like these fake non-police non-crime crime yes so why don't we wear really dodgy um not stripper outfits but you know like there's cheap police outfits with ties yes just so it's like it's a joke no i'm really into that no what do

you mean no no so sorry we're trying to do what and it cracks me up we're going to do an undercover party going in plain sight that we're cops we're the only people that have ever gone dressed as a cop undercover to an undercover party but mentally if you think about it it works because we're like actually not police so if we're going to go undercover, we'd have to become police. Police, exactly. So on some level, cerebrally, it works. All I know is that I'm not wearing my normal clothes with a tie. And if that means I have to go as a cop wearing a tie, that's fine. Sounds like a school child.

But we're going to have to hire a costume or buy a weird costume. I mean, this is just what you've got. Don't worry about it. No, you're the only one that has clothes that match ties. I've got a shirt. You've got shirts.

What's the matter with you? I'm not, I'm not wearing a tie, There's no way, Helen, that I'm going to my potential future family

where I've got quite a cool reputation. They think I'm quite cool wearing a fucking tie. And so when should we go tie shopping? I'm really on edge about this tie thing. Hello. Hi, Mike.

It's Karen from the Who Shafts on the Floor of My Wedding podcast. Mike is short for clinical forensic psychologist, Professor Mike Berry. What can I give you, dear? Well, I've got quite a fun proposal for you. We would love to fly you out to Sweden for a couple of days if you're up for that. Because we have quite a fun idea.

What we're doing is we are organising a party for all of the suspects. And we're not letting them know that it's a sort of, you know, moment for us to really interrogate them. But we're going to have a casual party, all of the suspects coming over to this town where the crime happened.

And we were thinking of sending you undercover. Yeah. To try and get the inside scoop on some of the suspects and see what you think. So we'd have to sort of mic you up. Yeah, what do you think? Would you be up for that? It's not going to be snow, is it?

Is it going to be snow? We're going in summer. Oh, good, fine. Yeah, because I'm allergic to cold weather. I get bad temper and homicidal and everything else. We don't need another crime on our hands. Yeah, no, I like the idea. I can quite easily play a different role from being the psychologist. Yeah, we can work out what you'd feel comfortable with. I mean, it could be that, yeah, you pretend to be a member of our family,

that you were just, you know, in the area and, you know, we invited you along or whatever, we can work out a story if close to the time if you're... Mad uncle that you didn't have at the wedding exactly yeah mad uncle on your mother's side or your father's side

or something oh yeah definitely play that role have you ever gone undercover before yes but I can't tell you what it was right

that sounds good okay cheers Karen Bye And that is how the idea of our undercover Midsomer Party was born We will kick off our 10 day

Swedish investigation by inviting all of the suspects to a Midsomer Party and together with a real clinical forensic psychologist, Professor Mike Berry, who pretends to be Karen's mad uncle, we will infiltrate the party, interrogate suspects and gather evidence. This will all be happening while we're wearing undercover microphones hidden under our ties,

so that you can experience every excruciating moment of this thrilling undercover operation oh my god okay so let's say the team behind the bronze award-winning podcast who shot on the floor at my wedding and the victim of a new crime christina cordially invite you to midsummer madness at the slaughterhouse join us for midsummer celebration christina karen helen and lauren would love to welcome you to black lake for snacks drinks and off the record asterix chats the festivities will take place in yun's slaughterhouse from 2 p.m on saturday the 25th of june we look forward to seeing you there and then the asterix that linked back to the statement off the record chats says in size 8 font this may or may not be

true it's sent we're really doing this, aren't we? They're going back now. This is the case of the tiny suitcase, episode three. In today's episode, we will be focusing on the young men who were around Christina when the tiny suit was deposited. Young men who could have been the right size to fit into the little suit. Could one of these young men be one of the suit owners? We then need to delve into Christina's historical love life and explore this being a crime of passion. The used male underpants suggest a dark romantic element to this story. But first, let's have a quick look at the evidence from this case. I messaged our victim, Christina,

and I asked her to send me photos of the suit and the suitcase. No, I think you have to say that again. Tiny suitcase. Every time you say suitcase. It's not. Oh, shit, I forgot. It's not tiny. It's not tiny.

Oh, shit. Christina has held on to four of the items that were planted on her veranda during the crimes. Real, tangible evidence that we will be professionally reviewing when we get to Sweden. She held on to the tiny three-piece navy corduroy suit, the coat hanger it was hanging on, the suitcase and

the swimming goggles. We asked Christina to send us some photos of the little suit so that we can review that. You can find these photos on our Instagram page, Who Shapped on the Floor at My Wedding. And I haven't opened the message yet because Karen told me to save it to

get our natural reactions. I think my heart rate has increased a bit. You need to get out more, Karen. She sent a close up of the label and it says size 140 and then it says Polan and Pirate.

It's clothing for children from newborn and baby to preschool and school children i'm looking up now polan or pirates they only go up to 12 years so it'll be between 6 and 12 years this range this no this one it says 10 to 11 yeah so between 6 and 12 10 to 11 years old yeah it says i'm just saying this is the categories of what they do so oh i see so guys we're professionals now. You can't fight. So I'm going to give you 11 then.

It's an 11-year-old outfit. Either that or there's a little person in town. I think what disturbs me the most about the suit is that it looks really dirty. The only logical explanation for this was maybe Joel's suit from his childhood or someone else's suit within the family and they were returning it. But you don't return a

dirty suit. You wash it first. So that rules out for me that it was a returned item. It's just too weird. It's grim. It also wasn't because she's obviously asked everyone in her life and they would have said, the person would have said, oh yeah sorry I forgot to tell you I dropped

off so andso's suit. But no one has said that, so it's definitely not that. You may remember a moment from episode one when Christina revealed to us that there were a lot of young men around her at the time that the suit and the suitcase were deposited on her veranda. And then I asked the young people, the young men around me and their parents. How many young men were around you at the time? No, no. There are three suspects who were young men at the time.

Three young men. Suspect one is Yuan, who is cousin Yan's son. Cousin Yan's son. Side note, cousin Yan is the owner of the slaughterhouse. What does that mean? Suspect two is Frederick, who is Christina's own son. Yuel, who is also my boyfriend. Let's speak to Johan first. Karen, make the call. Hi, Karen. Hey, how are you doing? I'm good. How are you?

Are you enjoying your last moments of freedom before we arrest you? I don't know. I feel pretty comfortable that I'm not your suspect for this. Brilliant. Well, let's get straight to it. The main thing I need for you to do for us, Johan, is to assess some photos which I have just sent to your email. Right, okay. I think it's pretty. I mean I like the old style, old school case as well, but I've never seen these items before. I can say that for sure. Regarding the suit, a couple of people that we've taken witness statements from so far

have actually indicated that you are likely to have worn that suit in your childhood. So are you sure you've never seen it, Johan? I've never seen it, I'm sure. At this point, Johan? I've never seen it I'm sure I'm sure. At this point Johan sounded very truthful it was pretty convincing that he had no memory of the suit but during his interrogation a very important lead was revealed. During all of our initial interviews with potential suspects we were trying to find out who has read or or currently still reads, the Swedish comic book called Canarsson, as that was one of the items that was found inside the suitcase.

Did you ever read comics as a kid? Yeah, tons. Can you list all of them right now? So Donald Duck was the main one I think. Lucky Luke, is that the English name for him? Like a cowboy style and then some like weird Swedish ones, Felix. Do you know any military style comics? I know Knasen. what's that one it's like it's a military one

it's about like a lazy guy in the military and his hard ass boss whipping his ass around did you ever read that one it wasn't my favourite but I read it quite a bit in Black Lake actually at my cousin's place

I know they had a lot of Knosson. Which cousin was that? I don't know which I should name the people here. Don't worry, we're going to change everyone's names anyway and keep everyone totally anonymous. This is confidential, Johan. Confidential. I don't believe that for a second. Fantastic gut instincts from our suspect, Yuan. Because one of our main aims is to make sure everything is definitely not confidential and definitely not anonymous.

But it was at Åsand Malin. And was that, sorry about the pronunciation, also in Malin, were they the people, were they the kids they wanted to read Knarsen or was it from the parents' old copies? I would guess it was more from their dad's class, actually. This is an extremely interesting piece of information because when we spoke to Cousin Klaas, in his initial interview he did not disclose his love for canarsen did you ever read comic books when you were younger or um through your

your life um yes when when we were small we have a swedish Swedish edition of Donald Duck and things like that. Were there any other titles, any other type of comic other than Donald Duck that you used to read? When I was older, it was Asterix and Lucky Luke. Cousin Klaas conveniently leaves out Knarsson, the comic book that was found inside the suitcase. But Johan clearly remembers seeing a stash of Knarsson comic books at Klaas' house. Cousin Klaas is getting more and more suspicious by the minute. We're going to have to strap him up to the old lie detector test when we get to Sweden. Back to the young men.

The next young man to interrogate and find out if he knows anything about the suit is cousin Per's son, Frederick. But it's very important that you answer a question for us, Frederick. you answer a question for us, Frederick. And that question is, have you ever seen this navy blue corduroy three-piece suit? And I hope you're holding a photo of it, otherwise you won't know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, I have it here. No, I've never seen it. I have no idea what it is. You wouldn't have worn that as a child? No, I've never seen it. Do you know anyone else that would have worn something like that when they were

like 12 years old? Is it really small? It's for a 12-year-old. I mean, I could see maybe Joel wearing this. We've reached the part of the investigation that I've been dreading. A moment that I knew was coming. A moment that Professor Mike Berry has called

a significant conflict of interest. But it's got to be done. A suspect is a suspect. Genuinely, it's not just because he's your boyfriend. I am pretty interested in Joel. Just because he's, to me, if there's anyone that would wear that navy corduroy suit, it would be Joel'all it just seems

like his style of garment I went through his wardrobe um yesterday and I found three navy corduroy items that are current that he wears not it's not a suit my question to you is when does he wear his corduroy is it like it like when it's only on his own, or does he wear them with pride in public? No, he wears them all the time in public. Right, so he's not hiding a dirty secret. Like a sick fetish for a corduroy, no. Not that I'm aware of.

Anyway, I think we need to do a polygraph test on him pretty quickly. I can't wait for that, actually. He's really uncomfortable about the whole thing. I know he is. He's really, like, he very firmly was like, I don't want to get involved. Yeah, he doesn't like it. I think just because he was so,

he witnessed what unfolded in season one and how far we took everything and how, you know, how many lines we crossed. So I think he just knows what's about to happen. There's a new edition of the Polygraph 2.0. What? 3.0. There's a 3.0.

And do you know what it's called? 3.0. It's not the police edition. It's now the military edition. It looks exactly the same. The picture on the box is exactly the same as what we've got, but it's more expensive. I don't mean to be rude, but the 99 euro one... Then one then don't be well i won't know i'll just take it as

facts then the 99 euro one was not good and i'm just wondering is there something more expensive now that we're taking on a case properly for a client maybe we can get something a little bit more you know authentic i just want to quickly check the review of it. Bring out the reviews. Five out of five stars for this one, this review. Really happy customer. And the title of the review is surprising. I am a former police officer of six years, during which I attended the Detectives Academy,

where we did polygraph familiarization. So when I got this, I was a little skeptical due to its simplicity compared with the one we were shown anyhow i was definitely shocked as it's been dead right on everything so far it helps to have learned about kinetics body language and documenting them accurately through the exam body language but overall there is nothing out there under three thousand dollars that could be this accurate listen that's that's the point. Should we spend $3,000 on something decent? Should we speak to that person that wrote that review is the question I want to ask.

Are they legit? Why were they only a police officer for six years? It's not long. And there was also, yeah, during which he attended the Detectives Academy, so that's fake. That doesn't exist. That sounds like you wrote that review.

That sounds like you wrote that review. It's time to interrogate the third and final young man who was around Christina at the time of the crimes. Could it be you, Joel? Could it be you, Joel? Sweet dear Joel. Don't, don't, don't. It's you, Joel. Anyone but you, Joel.

It's you, Joel, right? Joel. Are you't, don't, don't. It's you, Joel. Anyone but you, Joel. You can't be you, Joel. Right, Joel. Are you capable of this? Should it be Jewel? Introducing the Lie Detector Machine. USB Polygraph 3, Military Edition. Measuring artificial intelligence, pulse, breathing, sweat, and body language. To be tested on Yule.

Okay, stand up, please. This guest is my boyfriend. You've forgotten the main question. Like, the literally only thing you can ask. Otherwise, you'd be dead. Have you ever enjoyed the company of a million men? I've got a special guest with us today. Who is this guest then, detective?

This guest is my boyfriend. Hello. We should probably tell him. We're going to test the lie detector test on you, Joel. I was kind of guessing that, doing some of my own detective work. Okay, stand up, please. I'm going to hand this over to you now. Are you straightened that?

Pulse oximeter is attached. The skin galvanization wraps are attached, and the abdomen pulse monitor is attached. Detective, we're ready to go. You've done this again. I'm just looking at your questions. You've forgotten the main question. Like, literally the only one we need to ask. No.

You have. You've literally, you've missed the main question. Is that if I'm sexually attracted to horses or whatever? The device is ready. So, connect human. A pop-up has just come up that says connect human. to horses and whatever? The device is ready. So Connect Human. A pop-up has just come up that says Connect Human. You can pause the exam

by pressing spacebar. Click the bad body language button if you notice leg movement, twitching, excessive blinking or other tells. Oh, it's good to be back. Sorry, just, we need to get into this now.

It's happening. Please remain perfectly still. This polygraph exam will detect lies. Answer each question truthfully with a yes or no answer. Four, three, two, one. Have you ever told a lie? Yes. The pulse is at 10 BPM, the skin galvanisation is at 4% and the breath

jitter is at 1%. What the fuck is breath jitter? I don't know, but I feel like it's coming. 10 BPM, is that the heart rate? You'd hope not. Otherwise you'd be dead. Have you ever been dishonest? Yes. Oh,

you answered that quite quickly. I think that's the same as the previous question, though, kind of. Depends how you look at it. I will just have to say that I just observed a little bit of bad body language. Do you agree, Karen? Yeah, I do. There was some flinching. There was something weird with the fingers.

Yeah. Tapping. Have you ever enjoyed... Here we are. This is the military edition. I feel it's about to kick in. Have you ever enjoyed The Company of a Man? Yes.

That's a loaded question. That's a seriously loaded question. It's also like Company of a Man. Yeah. It's getting bolder. Maybe it just gets bolder the more, like the higher the versions. Oh, it's, it's sent something there. There was a big jump in pulse and the pulse is now up to 51 BPM.

So you're no longer dead. Okay, that's good. Skin galvanisation is still at 4%. Interesting. The electronics box is flashing quite quickly now. I think that might be the heart monitor. Click OK to calculate baselines. That was just the control questions.

All right. Now we begin. Do you own and like blue corduroy clothing? Yes. Cool. I have one pair of corduroy pants that are blue and one shirt that is blue but i haven't worn i've worn them together once as a joke but that was the only time so you've worn a blue corduroy suit before yes just to show you how ridiculous it would look

okay i don't quite remember that as being a joke, but yeah. Question. Is Who Shat on the Floor at My Wedding your favourite podcast? Yes. That's the right answer. Do you know who owned the suit that was left on your mother's veranda? No, I do not. Do you know who left the suitcase on your mother's veranda? No. I wish I did, but also wish I, you know, happy I don't,

because otherwise, you know, season two would be, you know. It felt like you said that a little bit at the end, just to enable you to flinch. Yeah, I felt like it was a bit unnecessary, that like extra. I was trying to be nice. The machine has detected irregularities. Was that it? Was that all the questions? Yeah.

Okay, yeah, you did ask the main question. Yeah. Casual. The exam is complete. Use slider below to review exam. Okay. This is the best part. Oh, it's not working the slide is not the slide is not working it doesn't work

okay it's working oh no it only works when you click. How to create tension in podcasts. Okay. Oh my God, it doesn't. It actually doesn't work, the slider. So the question was, do you own and like blue corduroy clothing? You said yes. That was the truth.

See? The slider is actually working now. The question was, do you know who owned the suit that was left on your mother's veranda? You said no, and that was a lie. Hmm. Yo, come on now. I really have no idea, actually.

Like, that's the truth. We never really wore suits as kids, either. Do you know who left the suitcase on your mother's veranda? You said no. Undetermined. This is what got Henk. This is what got Henk in season one, almost. Fuck.

I really don't though. I just want to know, like, do you think you should be a suspect? Oh, great question. I don't think so because I didn't do it. I can safely say that the machine works. I really think it does. But we got no developments from...

It doesn't matter. We were testing the machine. We weren't here to solve the crime. No, I'm saying that the money that we paid for the military edition, there's no difference to the police edition, and I'm pissed off. I want my money back. And how would you describe your mother um i would describe her as a very loving kind of tiny hippie lady a tiny hippie lady. Yeah. That's probably why she gets tiny things delivered to her porch.

She gets bullied for being very tiny actually, which I guess could put me and my sisters as suspects because she definitely gets bullied for being a miniature person. A new motive to add to our list of motives. Was the tiny suit a dig at Christina's tiny appearance? The next motive that we will be reviewing in this case is crime of passion. Did you have any local admirers at the time of the crime? any local admirers at the time of the crime? Yeah, there was a specialist, one man who

came to my house with some gifts. I wasn't really sure about his intentions. It was very sweet. He was very warm. It was really warm in his contact with me. It was at Valladhan's day one year and that he gave me a gift and he also said that I think this day is an important day. Wow and And what was the gift that he left, did he say? It was a new baked bread. Very, it smelled marvelous. He baked this bread just before he came, I guess. Yum. And did he leave it on your veranda or gave it to you in person? He gave it to me in person. Okay and how did you ever explain to him in a nice way that you didn't have romantic feelings for him or was that ever communicated in any way? No no it wasn't communicated verbal in any way.

I don't know if I showed it in another way, that I appreciated his friendship, but there was nothing more for me. Over to Mike Perry. Well, go to the issue of crime and passion. You've got to ask, who is the passion? She might have been stalked by somebody that she ignored, rejected or X or whatever. Stalkers work on the basis that they like you or they think you're attractive. And then when they

get rejected, they go from kind of a love relationship to a hate relationship. About one in six women get stalked sometime in their life. I don't think I've ever been stalked, but maybe I'm not one of six. No, I have been stalked. It's one of the professional risks of this job is that you do get weird and wonderful people. Did you ever feel that we stalked you to get you involved in this podcast? Right. Do you know, I don't know why I even work with you guys at all you just need to

go from one thing to another if i had a career you know i've ruined it you know we try our best speaking of mike berry the main thing he has taught us over the years is to always look at the nearest and dearest. We're desperately trying to get ex-lover Mikel to speak to us, especially because he was the lover when both crimes occurred. But Mikel is still ignoring us. He's refusing to respond to any of our emails and he's even ignoring Christina. However, we cannot overlook ex-husband Lars. The father of Christina's three children. Lars

is technically my father-in-law and we have a laugh together. I'm not sure how many laughs we'll have together once I put him as a suspect in this case, but sometimes you just need to prioritise justice. Ex-husband Lars. My nameband Lars. Okay and what is your relationship to the victim of the crime? What crime? Just a crime that happened. I know you're pretending not to know about it,

but there was a crime that happened. And we noticed that he's acting just a little bit weird because we keep asking him questions about the case. He says he doesn't know anything and he makes me take him through every single last detail of both crimes. And that was a small suitcase. Yes. I have heard about it. Have you? Okay.

I've seen pictures. Yes. You've seen pictures already? Yes. Okay. Yes. And the victim of the crime, her name is Christina. What is your relationship to her? That's my ex-wife, yes.

Correct. When it happened, we were separated. Okay. Interesting. And what do you know about the crime? Nothing. Nothing at all? Nothing at all. Nothing at all.

Could you just recap in your own words what happened? Because you said you had heard about it and you'd seen some photos. Even if it's not much, if you could just say what you know about it, it would be helpful. My children have told me, and I've seen some pictures. That's all. You're being very defensive, Lars. I think I worked that day.

I don't remember the date of when it happened or anything. That you were working. You know you were working even though you don't know which day it happened. So have you worked every day your entire life? What? You said you were working that day. I think. Okay. I don't know which day it happened. So this is all going down right in front of our very eyes and we suddenly realise that Lars is potentially quite a big suspect in this case. But we need to keep him on side because we want to be able to interrogate the shit out of him when we go to Sweden. And then Lars reveals something

entirely new to us, something we were absolutely not expecting. I know when I bought a house in... He starts telling us about the house that he bought after he broke up with Christina. And then he starts telling us about something he found on his veranda when he came home one day. when he came home one day. It was like a little cow with a little head and four legs, of course. I was standing on my stair someday when I came home. Very ugly, what do you call a small chair? A small chair, like a stool?

A small chair on the stair to the door. For like a, for a child or an adult could sit on it? A child. A tiny cow stool. A tiny cow stool. And this just in. Breaking news coming to you now. A third tiny and sinister item has been deposited mysteriously on a Swedish veranda near to Black Lake overnight.

The item has now been revealed as a tiny cow stool suitable for a toddler. The high-profile investigators taking on this case believe that one or more serial reverse theft criminals may be on the loose in the local area and are exploring possible links with a tiny three-piece corduroy suit. People are being advised to stay vigilant, so if you discover any unwanted tiny items on your veranda, please report it immediately to the who-shat-on-the-floor at my wedding detective team. And now over to the who shat on the floor at my wedding detective team. And now over to the weather. Beautiful blue skies are forecasted for Black Lake over the midsummer period. So keep cool, apply sunscreen and whatever you do,

do not wear a tie over your normal clothing. Do you mind if I just send you two pictures of some cow stalls? I just want to know which one most resembles what of it. So, do you think these are... This is the best breakthrough we've had in the case so far. I've sent you four options on email. Option A, B, C and D. Have you sent it?

Yeah, I've sent you four options across two emails. One's more of a coffee table. One is more a footstool. Who are you people? Who owns this? Maybe. Who owns this? Maybe the B variant, but not really. Option B.

Option B is the closest, okay. Something between the option A and B. Because option A looks like a real cow. It's almost like a prop for a movie where you'd see a cow in the distance. 3D photo real model, but half in a coffee table and half in shit. Yeah. So halfway between option A and B, I love it.

I've never seen anything like it in my life. Wow, what a strange thing to leave in front of someone's door. It's much more interesting and weird than a suit. Well, we're going to have to change the title of this podcast. The suitcase and the tiny toddler. The tiny cow stool, the tiny suit and the tiny suitcase. I can't cope anymore. Lars, I can't cope anymore with the strange things that happen in Sweden.

It's too weird. You Swedes. Coming up next on The Case of the Tiny Suitcase. If you wanted to try and romance someone, would you ever think to leave a tiny suit? So we could probably mock up a sheet for you to be able to take everybody's fingerprints. Easy peasy. So don't touch each other.

Take off your wedding rings. I'm not taking my wedding ring. Why would I take off my wedding ring? Because we need to appear available. Sexually. You didn't look very pleased to see us, did you? Fat best. Seriously, fat best.

Yes. What you lot taught me. It's true. I'm so sorry. What was that? You look wild, Karen. What you lot taught me. It's true. I'm so sorry. What was the end? You look wild, Karen. What are we doing?

I'm really uncomfortable. I just, I don't know, he's just not, he's not prepared for what you're going to do. This is like the lowest moment and I feel like every day it's going to get slightly better.