WHOA That's Good Podcast - Don't Worry About Things That Haven't Happened Yet | Sadie & Christian Huff + Aodhan King
Episode Date: May 25, 2022Aodhan King, singer, songwriter, and member of the Hillsong Young & Free team, joins Sadie and Christian to talk about stretching yourself to your maximum potential, how to be open and vulnerable in r...elationships, and the great things that happen when you decide to say "YES." They dive into people's confusion about what ministry is meant to be and discuss the time, commitment, and consistency required to achieve the outcomes you really want. Challenging yourself will increase your faith and grow your self-confidence. Tickets are on sale now for the Worship Nights Tour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello, hello, hello.
It's good to be here.
Well, it is great to have you on the piecast.
I added Christian to the piecast since y'all are friends.
I thought we'd have a good conversation.
I love it.
Christian, I love you.
I love you too.
One thing I will say, every answer you give,
if you could sing, that would just add so much
Just richness to this episode
Yeah, I can sing ever I can sing it all I apologize already for inviting
There is no need to apologize
Perfect it's already good. It's happening. It's happening.
It is happening. Well listen, whenever Christian and you got coffee in LA that one time,
um, I just remember whenever he got back in the car, he was like, man, I think we're going
to be good friends. That's a good guy. And uh, so I'm thankful that you're on the podcast.
We'll start at the same way as start every podcast. And that is asking the big question
of what is the best piece of advice
that you have ever been given?
All right, the biggest question ever.
I was thinking about this last night
and I think the biggest piece of advice
I've ever seen was from my dad.
And it was, don't worry about things
that haven't happened yet.
And for me, that was huge,
because I'm like such a,
I can be such a control freak and I want to like know exactly what's going to happen
when it's going to happen.
And I worry about things that I shouldn't.
So that for me has been the biggest piece of advice.
Don't worry about things that haven't happened yet.
And it's kind of, it's so good.
Help me to stay present and enjoy now,
not think about anything that, you know what I mean? It That it's bad to be huge for me.
It's awesome.
It's really biblical too.
It's like when Jesus says, don't worry about tomorrow,
for tomorrow has enough worries on its own.
So, do you do the neogram?
I do, yeah.
So, what are you?
Well, I used to be a six, seven,
and now recently I'm a three, four.
So I don't know what that means.
I know, I know.
I know.
It makes sense though.
I mean, I'm a six, seven actually.
And so even the way you just answered that,
I was like, yep, that's me.
Like you want to know what's going to happen,
how it's going to happen,
and then you probably assume the worst case scenario
might happen.
And so we got to prepare for that to happen.
Absolutely.
All the things.
But you know, a six goes to a three,
like in the whole, how the triangle thing works.
And I can't remember unhealthy or health or whatever.
But so, you know, I think sixes and threes
do have a lot of similarities anyways.
I'm always back and forth in those two,
so that's interesting.
You are.
What is it?
How is it that you switch from a six to a three?
Is it stress?
Where is it growth?
Maybe it's stress.
Maybe I'm a three.
I think it is stress.
I think it is stress.
But hey, look, maybe you got it wrong.
Maybe you were always a three
and you were just going to a six.
Maybe, and now I'm stepping back.
Look, there are people who like know the integrand backwards and forwards and they're listening
to us and they're like these people. You know the integrand backwards and forwards.
I do know the integrand very well but I'm a little rusty like I haven't read about it in a while.
But um, six wings seven. I do know that one backwards and forwards because that is,
I'd definitely where I've landed and I've been that way since I've landed there.
Yeah.
Christian went on to any of Graham crisis.
Like he, he went through every number
before he figured out what he was.
I was a two and then a three and then an eight
and I'm a one.
So it wasn't like a personality disorder.
It was just finding out who I really was at the core
It was really just I mean honestly, I feel like that year you were really getting to know who you are anyways
And really kind of because I think you were trying to be certain certain things not in a bad way
But like you were trying to be really helpful. So it's like that's a two, right?
And then you were like there were just different things coming out
and eight because you were being like,
that man.
Well, say to never liked ones necessarily.
So.
You can't say that to the world.
I'm not saying that to the, well,
okay, if you're listening to this,
just forget I said that.
But you weren't fond of ones.
And when you just never thought
that I could have been a one.
Well, I, look at it. I been a one. Well, I didn't have that much experience with that much great experience with ones because
you see, I'm not very like put together.
I'm a little bit like I'm a dreamer.
I'm a visionary person.
I'm all up here.
So I'm not like in the lane of getting everything in order or planned and
a one is like they're very they're perfectionist there. They're orderly. They're like which is great and
it's great to have around but because I'm so different than that sometimes I feel like there would be like a
rub there. So I felt like oh gosh Christian cannot be a one. Right. Because that means that we're gonna
really get on each other's nerves because I'm gonna be all up in the clouds and he's gonna be on the ground running the thing. And
so anyways, but what's beautiful is it works. It works, you know, your opposites do a
job. Of course, it works perfectly. So where have you landed now? He's in one. I'm a one.
Yeah, I'm a one. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the the justice oriented efficiency side of the one. Yes.
Well, I was going to ask and before we ask Sadie asks the next question, what's he's new?
Were you in when your dad gave you that advice? Like, how old were you?
I think I was in high school. I was coming up to like the end of high school and we had exams and everything,
but he says it all the time. I was back in Sydney a few weeks ago, and he said the same thing.
So it's kind of just been something,
I feel like it's been so consistent
that it wasn't the first thing that came to my mind
when I thought of what's the best piece of advice
because it's just been something I'm so used to.
But it really has been a thing that's
every time I'm worried about something,
I'm just like, all right, it hasn't happened yet,
don't ever think it.
That's awesome.
I love those pieces of advice that really go with you
in every season.
It's not just about high school exams, it grows with you,
you know, when it comes to, I mean, guys,
you've had a lot of things that you could be worried about.
I know you just moved recently from Australia to LA.
What was that journey like?
Was that, and how did you even get to the point of being ready to take that huge leap of faith?
Yeah, I mean, I've been talking about it for years.
I'm in the bend, I'm Hulsing Young and Free, and probably for the last 10 years, we've
traveled here.
We will come into America five, six times a year, which was back and forth from Australia
it's just the longest flight of all time.
And I think I got to a point,
after probably eight years of doing that,
where I was like, I think it feels like I live in Australia,
but I go to work in America.
It's just a long commute every time.
And I think I was just ready to kind of put roots down
somewhere.
And so after talking about it for years,
I'm like, I actually need to do it. And so I've talking about it for years. I'm like, I actually need to do it.
And so I did it in June last year.
And yeah, it's been probably the best thing I've ever done.
I mean, it's been one of the scariest things I've ever done too.
It's the first time I've kind of like, I've lived by myself.
It's been, you learn a lot about yourself.
And you live by yourself.
You learn how much about yourself, when you live by yourself, you learn how much unique you community,
the things that maybe you took for granted
when I was at home, out of my family around.
But it's been hugely stretching in a good way, I think.
Right.
So, yeah, it's been good.
Stretching's one of those things that,
I remember going through this season
while I was like, this season is just a stretch and so I was able to like the definition of stretch and it's actually like a really cool definition
It talks about
Like I guess doesn't use the term stretching in the definition of stretching, but it's like
pushing yourself to yourself like maximum potential and I was like that's so true
And like it's uncomfortable and it hurts
and it's hard sometimes, but it's getting you
to your maximum potential.
And that's why athletes, like, it's before you go
an erase that you're gonna stand on the sideline
and you're gonna really stretch it out.
And I might have heard it might be uncomfortable
but that's gonna get you to your best potential.
So it's a lot of times like before, you know,
you hit your stride that you have to stretch.
And, you know, of course, right when you move,
it's get take you on a bridge or stride,
but those are like stretching seasons
and they get you to the place of being able to stride.
And so, let's talk about community for a second
because that's something that so many people are so afraid
of having to find, you know, like having to move
to a new place, find community,
or so many people that listen to our podcasts
that are either going into college or graduating college.
Well, that's like a huge community building moment.
And so what have you found that to be like,
just moving to LA, which is probably a hard place
to build a community, and how have you kind of found your people?
Yeah.
I mean, I've been lucky in that, you know,
like the church, I'm part of Hillsong Church, has, you know, campuses around, you know, the world.
And so there's a campus in LA. And so it kind of just feels like we always have this saying at Hillsong where it's like one house with many rooms.
And it almost feels like I've just gone down the hallway and gone to the other room and found family and community.
But, you know, I think I've been lucky and blessed with that. And I know for
most people, like, that's not always the case. But, you know, I think, I think moving and doing
something that's stretching, like we were talking about, it causes your faith to, like, be on fire,
because you have to. You don't know. It's almost like, in the stretching, it's like, do I have,
how much further can I go? Like, how much,, like how have I pushed past the margins beyond what's possible for me?
And I think at that point, it's when you have to like, you have to have faith.
And for me, obviously that's in Jesus.
And it's been like amazing for my, like, for my faith and for my relationship with him,
being able to be like, all right, I actually don't know what's going to happen.
God provide, provide the right people. And it sounds cliche, but it's, I think when you're in that place, like God really does show up with people.
And for me, that's been, you know, this, I mean, when I came, when I moved to America, it wasn't like I was coming because
all like this thing's happening, so I'm going to go and do that. It was like, it was a step of faith.
I didn't know what was going to happen.
Yeah, when I moved here, I had no idea what was going to happen.
I just moved going, all right, I'm going to trust that, you know, friendships and things will open up.
And it has in ways that I have really surprised me, you know, I just friends in my life now that I didn't know before I moved here nine months ago or whatever it was.
So yeah, I think for people I've just encouraged people to like, you know, for me it's always been like being open and trying to say yes to things more than saying no, I think sometimes
out of fear, you know, people could invite you out to do things and the easiest answer is no
because I don't really want to do that. But I think being open and saying yes and trusting that God's going to put the right people
around you, that's always going to be my thing, especially since moving here.
That's so good.
There's that verse in Hebrews 11 and it's about Abraham when he goes out and it says
and he went out to the man not knowing where he was going or what was going to be when
he got there.
I've always loved that because he obeyed God
before he knew what was gonna happen.
And I think so many times because we are control freaks
and because we are planners, we're like,
well obey you God, when we figure out all the plans
and when we figure out who our friends are gonna be,
what church are gonna do, what job are we gonna have.
And you know, some of those things are practical
and some of those things that you know,
you can prepare for and you can plan for.
But then there are other things that you're just not gonna fully know the answer to before you
have to say yes or before you need to say yes and that's where faith comes into the picture. It's
like saying yes before you have everything planned and that's whenever you really get to rely on
God and be like okay God you really you really do provide all my needs. I love it. Totally.
You talk about how like, know is the easiest answer because that's so true, like saying
no and not wanting to go out and make friends or do stuff or whatever, it really is easy.
You can hide behind your no all day long.
But what great things are on the other side of your yes, right?
And we have a mutual friend, Steph.
You love Steph.
You love Steph.
Literally, one of my favorite people, both of our favorite people on the planet.
She is hilarious, but also like a boss lady, all the things.
But she'll tell me stories about y'all, and they crack me up.
Like y'all are like, I call, I always call y'all to her.
I'm like, those are your youth group friends.
It's like the friend you had in seventh grade
that you're just like, buds with and you just do whatever.
You don't even care what you look like or what you're doing.
And I just love it and that child like faith.
And so how do you get to the point
where you're like so comfortable
just being yourself around people
and letting that child like spirit come out in friendships?
Cause I think everybody wants that,
but everyone's kind of scared of like, I guess, doing what is required to get that, which is,
you know, letting go of whatever ego you have. Yeah, I mean, that's like such good question because
I feel like every day I'm trying to figure that out even more and more, but, you know, I really
do think it starts with good people.
And I think if you're in relationships where you don't feel like you can be yourself or you don't
feel like you can be honest and vulnerable and I think we've all got friends that we can be
funny with, but maybe we can't be deep and spiritual with. And we've got friends that we can
be spiritual with, but it's hard to be funny with them. I think when you can find people that are all of those things,
I think that's when it's really special.
And I think it really comes down to like having the confidence
to know that God created you a certain way.
And you, we're all different.
And what we bring to relationships is different.
And I think we've got this friendship
group. Like you said, like it feels like it literally does feel like a youth group friendship
group. And everyone's so different. We all, we kind of do similar things that we're in the
same kind of space. We all kind of work with music and then obviously with you and it's, so there's
like, there's something there that's common amongst us. but I think we are so aware of each other's
differences in a way that actually just is exciting.
But we disagree on some things and we agree on a lot of things and we find some things
funny and I don't know, it kind of helps to make you just, it stretches you even in
your own expression.
It's true.
And seeing people that are confident, like being with people that are really confident
helps you be confident too.
So that's so true.
It's like the best whenever someone
is their full self around you because you know, like,
oh, like, ever in your trust, you know,
ever in your trust.
And I think when you know that person,
it's like whether they agree with you or not,
whether you're on that day or you're not,
like they're gonna be your friend, it helps you open up to be like the
goofiest version of yourself or the most serious.
Totally.
And you're so right, there are some friends that I'm like, I don't know why I just cannot
be funny around them.
Like I am hilarious, but not around that person.
You know what I mean?
There's other friends that you're like just sitting around and I think it comes with that
stress that you build with people.
I was gonna say, and you have a song called Let Go.
So as you're driving, as you're driving to meet these new friends,
you can just turn on your own song and just,
when I let go, then I find life.
Do do do do do do.
Oh no, Kristen's thinking.
Exactly.
I love that song.
I always pump myself up, I listen to my own music.
I've always wondered that. That's all I've heard.
If you just heard yourself on the radio, would you be like,
oh, there I am. That's me.
That's what you would do.
That's definitely what I would do.
I'd be jamming to my stuff.
Be jamming.
Oh my gosh.
That's a good transition.
You want to ask him about some music, which is said,
I didn't even introduce you as Aiden King from Hillsong,
which is obviously a big part of what you're known for,
but I just think you're great.
So I didn't even mention that.
And so I'm glad you're even mentioning it.
But Aiden, if you don't know,
because I feel like you're a familiar face to many people.
So you sing on Hillsong Young and Free,
and I know Hillsong, you dabble in,
probably worship and all the other things as well.
You know, you worship.
United and the different things.
But yeah,
so let's talk about music,
because that is a huge part of your life.
Yeah, I mean, you've written some,
that was what I told you when we hung out in California that day.
You've written and sung some of my favorite worship songs
that I still sing, you know, you wrote Touch of Heaven,
which is what me and Sadie walked down the aisle to.
Me and Sadie, I walked down the aisle.
Oh yeah, Sadie walked down the aisle too. Me and Sadie, I walked down the aisle. Oh yeah, Sadie walked down the aisle to me, to that song.
But yeah, even like songwriting, for you, do you feel like most of the songs that you
write come out of moments where you're super strong in your faith or is it moments where
you're struggling with something that you're kind of going through something or is it, you know, when you're kind of on the high that you write these super inspirational,
powerful songs? That's a great question. I, to be honest, I think worships always been like my,
it's been kind of like my response in every season, whether good or bad, especially sitting down
at piano is like the place that I go to. I think a lot of people go and
journal and write things down or read for me, it's always just been like, oh it's good at piano
and work this out if it's good, if it's bad. And so yeah, worship, it really depends. I wrote a song
called Highs and Loads, which was a song that I wrote in a really hard time.
And I feel like it's often like,
if I can't express it,
like express what I'm going through in words,
I need to sit down and sing it out.
And for months, sometimes that literally is just a melody
without lyrics.
And then sometimes it's the opposite.
It's just lyrics and no melody. And so it's different
every time.
So cool. What's like one of your favorite songs that you've written on, or is that kind
of hard to say because each one's for a different season?
Yeah, I feel like I'm really proud of like a song that I wrote when I first kind of
started writing, which is like sinking deep, which was, I think that song,
I think for me was the beginning of me understanding what my voice was and even like how I would
speak to God. I think a lot of the way I speak to God is through singing. I could sing
every answer to you guys, but sitting at the piano has always been the way that I just express.
And I think singing deep is the first time that I felt like,
oh, I can make sense of even my prayer life with this song.
I said, I would probably say that song, but it changes all the time.
Oh, I'm sure.
Did you ever have a time in your life where you doubted like your ability
or felt like you weren't good enough
because you know whenever you look at you now you've obviously accomplished so much you
putting out songs that are just amazing and you're such a good worship leader, incredible
worship leader.
Some of your songs that you wrote like Kirsten said are some of our very favorite songs
in our house but when you were younger like did you think you had that talent and you did
you know it were you confident in it or were you ever like I did you think you had that talent and you did you know it?
Were you confident or were you ever like, I don't even know if I'm even good at this.
I would say it was more that 100%.
Wow.
I think it was all I never, ever imagined that I'd be doing what I'm doing today.
Like, even living in America and, you know, getting like, I guess, the honor of singing and
leading worship, I never ever imagined
that I'd do that. It kind of almost just, you know, happened. I think that was like me
saying yes to things and stepping into my fear. I think I've always been such a, I guess,
so nervous. And that's always been for me something that's like, help me back sometimes
when it comes to like leading worship. like, leading worship and even like submitting songs
or that process has always been a riddle in fear
a lot of the times,
because I've been like, I don't know.
Like if good enough at this or look at these other people
at church who are just incredible and almost just be like,
ah, maybe like, there's enough amazing people
that I don't need to do this.
And, but more recently, I think,
as I've gotten older, you start to just appreciate
like your individuality.
And, you know, I think, and it's less about comparison
and more about like, well, you know,
these people are incredible,
but I can also do something that's just different.
And for me, that's kind of where I'm getting to.
It's a journey, but I'm getting there.
Well, yeah, no, I love that.
And that's like why we're founded on what's behind me
live original, because the minute you start comparing
yourself to other people, you take yourself out,
because you're looking around you like 100%.
Yeah, I don't have that.
And I don't have that.
And they are way stronger in this. And they're they're and of course because God made them like that
That's their originality, but God also made you and his image as well
And if you think you're not as good as them, so you don't show what God's putting you then we're missing out on an image of God
We're missing out on a side of God. We haven't seen a new I love how
100% first on four it talks about like no one's ever seen God but his love is perfected in us like we see his look we see him through the way we love each other
So it's like through us giving of our gifts through what's inside of us
I got put in us we give people a glimpse of heaven and so man
It's so cool. We all have to come to that point in our life where you stop looking at people and you look at the Lord
Your maker and you look at the word,
your maker and you say, all right,
you made something in me to give in this time.
And so I think that's awesome.
So I want to hear the story.
So you said it kind of just happened.
How did it just happen for you?
Where did you go from?
I'm not sure if I really have this to, you know,
sing it on Hillsong and creating some of the greatest songs
that, you know, we were. we were. You guys are too kind. Well, it kind of was, I was writing songs and I was singing
them for like our youth group, which was like a Friday night program. I was a youth leader
and at the time I was studying marketing at university. And I was washing dishes at this restaurant and I kind
of probably was halfway through my degree and I was like cool all right I've
come to terms with music firstly music is just going to be a hobby it would be
something that I do for church on the weekends like I'll sing you know every
Friday or Sunday whenever they need me, but I'm probably
gonna go and work in marketing somewhere.
Anyway, it's like probably halfway through my degree and I've been singing these songs
every Friday.
I'd just be writing random little songs like, oh, maybe we'll sing about this Friday or,
you know, the preacher's gonna speak about this.
So I'll try and write like a little
chorus around that. And then I remember there's probably after maybe about six months of just doing
that every Friday, they kind of like lore and peat, uh, togs who are the youth pastors at the time
which is like, hey, like, why don't we just like record some of these songs? And let's get, let's get
a bunch of the young people together and we'll like record some of these songs? And let's get, let's get a bunch
of the young people together and we'll just record whatever's happening on Fridays. And
we're like, yeah, okay, cool. And none of us thought anything of it. It was just kind
of like, we're going to record, you know, the songs really naturally. And at the time,
there's obviously Hillsong United still existed, Hillsong Worship was doing stuff and so we were just like, yeah, great, that'd be fun.
So we recorded it and then I think the first time we put it out, put out the first young and free album maybe of July 2013.
And I finished university in November, November 9th, 2013.
And that was the day I handed in my last assessment that day, November 9th, and then went that was the day I handed in my last assessment
that day, November 9th, and then went straight
to the airport and got on a plane,
and we went on tour with Hillsong United.
But like, I think for all of us involved,
it was, we had, none of us had any idea.
There was no like trajectory that this was gonna happen.
It was, we were releasing an album
just for our youth students.
And yeah, so that, when I say I have no idea, was we were releasing an album just for our youth students. Wow.
Yeah, so that when I say I have no idea genuinely,
it's just like we kind of just said,
yes, all right, cool, we're record songs.
We're not sure if we're good enough.
And then that was it.
So it's incredible.
I love that.
And it's crazy how many stories start like that, you know,
where it's like, we were just doing this for our church. we were just doing this for our family, we were just doing this because
this is what we were praying and then God uses that in a global way or in a big way.
And I hear a lot of young people now because they've seen people make it in ministry.
I literally had a conversation with someone recently, I said, what do you want to do after college?
She said, I want to make it in ministry. I said, so what does that even mean?
Make it in ministry.
And she's like, well, I want to be like, I want to be like big.
And I was like, I'm just going to tell you
that's the wrong way to look at it.
And I was like, that is that.
You're going to be like, in a very wrong way.
And I was like, making it in ministry
is like doing ministry right where you're at. Whether that is at your home, whether that's at your school, whether that's, you
know, with your family, but, you know, ministry is a natural thing.
It's because you love God and you love people.
And if God wants to elevate that in your life and wants to do it in a big, big way as far
as a stage or a platform, then so be it.
But if a big way is one person's life that you're sowing into,
like that is ministry.
And I think people get really confused by that because they see lights and they
see stage and I see this.
But I mean, I don't know anyone to be honest in doing similar things to what
we're doing that had the intention that they were going to make it in
ministry. They were going gonna build this huge platform.
A lot of it came from just doing what God put
on their heart to do and then it just happened.
God just breathed on it, God moved in this way,
moved in that way and who's to say that that's
any better than the person serving
like right in their local church.
It's not, it's the same thing, same mission. It's just a different placement. God has a body of people and his body of believers,
he uses for different functions and to be confident in that is really when you start doing ministry.
And really when everything starts to happen. So I just love that. Um, I saw somewhere that you
learn to play a guitar by watching YouTube. Is this true?
Is this true?
It is true.
I learned how to play guitar and piano on YouTube.
No way.
Okay, literally I've tried this.
This has gotten me nowhere.
Here's the difference, babe.
He's innately gifted and wired to be good in there.
Oh, no.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Before the foundation of the world, the Lord knew that you were going to do this.
So he put this gift in you.
We do not have the ear or the talent.
See, we're good at sports or other things,
but we're not gifted with guitar and piano
and all those things.
This is what loads up on YouTube.
Easiest song to play on the piano.
And I learned it. guess what it is?
Lean on me.
Puh.
When you're not strong, and that's the only song I can play,
but I learned it because I'm like,
there will be a case scenario in my life
where we're gonna be sitting on a piano.
No one's gonna be able to play it.
I'm be like, guys, I got y'all.
And I will hit it with the lean on me.
See here's a good one.
So here's a good one.
My fingers are too fat.
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How do like little kids play the piano who have tiny hands? They think they have that
aggression. I don't think it's about your hands. I have seen many pianos. I have never seen
extra large pianos. Just think of it this way. You can be playing you can you can stretch your
fingers out longer than anybody. So you can be playing crazy of course. Maybe there's chords that aren't discovered yet that you could play because your fingers are so
See here's a thing here's a thing. This is good. My hands are small my fingers are just fat
So it's not it's not the space there problem
He does have a slight disadvantage. He does have a slight disadvantage
But I still think he's capable so when you started learning on YouTube
What was that like, were you all
in, were you like, okay, I'm actually gonna learn like, because to me like I said, I have
actually tried this and did do the lean on me thing, but I've actually pursued other learning
as well. And I've gotten nowhere. So was it your commitment level? Was it what you typed in?
Was it a certain teacher? Help the people out there who are trying to YouTube learn?
you typed in? Was it a certain teacher? Help the people out there who are trying to YouTube? Alright, I would learn like my favorite songs. So that's how it kind of started.
It was almost like, I love this song. I need to know how to play it. Because I want to
sing it. Yeah. And then I would be like, but I would like learn chords. I'd be like,
okay, teach me how to play like the most basic chord, chord structure, which this won't, might not be much for you, but it might be C, G, A,
minor F, which is the most standard chord movement, which is in every pop song.
And then I'd learn that.
But the reason I was so driven was because I was like, I want to write songs, but if I don't
do this, it's going to be harder.
So I'm like, I have to do this.
I was always like, all right, I'm going to learn these four chords,
and then I'm just going to sing over them.
That's kind of how it started.
And I would like watch videos over and over again
when the internet was nowhere nearest good as it is right now.
That's awesome.
And I would just sit there for hours.
Yeah. That's awesome.
Maybe you should do a tutorial, and then we can learn.
Have you done that? No, I'll do it for you guys. I'll literally just make a whole YouTube channel for you guys
Literally, we will watch it. We will if we learn okay, that would be legit if we learn piano and guitar from you on your YouTube
I mean that would be pretty epic. Did you ever watch the office? I?
Haven't watched it enough. Well it was like
it was like to see where Michael's like explain it to me like I'm five. Like it would be that
thing of like I need you to explain it to me like I'm five. Like I'm a child.
All right well there's a lot of things I'll need you guys to explain to me like I'm five as well.
So we can just kind of we can figure that out. We'll go back and forth. Okay, listen, two things that you've said while we've been talking to, I just want to
bring out one.
You said that one thing you were desiring when you moved to America was you want to
sew roots.
And then you also just talked about in, you know, learn the piano, your commitment level
to rewatch over and over and over again.
And I learned like that in a lot of ways too.
I'm a studier.
I love to study, but like when I preach a message,
I have gone over that thing a thousand times
because like I'm gonna know everybody's like,
how do you just do it without stopping?
I'm like, cause I know everywhere that I wanna say,
cause I've meditated, I'm so gone at you know?
So there's this commitment.
They're in sewing routes is the same thing.
I think a lot of people, they want routes,
but they don't have the commitment level to really sow their seeds to really water the ground to really watch those roots
You know blossom into a firm foundation into into a tree into fruit
And so I think a lot of young people it's like they want to be really great at piano
But they don't want to you know put the time that it takes into it.
They want to make friends.
They don't want to put the time.
Talk to us a little bit about just having
that commitment level and that consistency
and certain things that you want to do
to see the outcomes that you want to have
because I think that's a lost art.
I think a lot of people have this wishful thing.
Maybe it's because of the culture we live in.
Maybe it's because people get viral from nothing.
You know, you know, they post a video like
Eating whipped cream. I don't even know and they're like famous. So it's like, you know, they don't have to like so
There's seeds. They don't have but for the you know large majority of people that's not the case
You know, you do have to work really hard and to be honest even for the people that do hit it like that viral
That that's where a lot of people get in trouble is because then that's it, you know,
then then what do you do after that? So talk to us a little bit about just consistency and
commitment and how to how to dive into that to get the outcome that you want.
Yeah, well firstly, I always love to eat whipped cream and get famous for it.
That's true. We all would.
And absolute dream.
Imagine that.
That's ideal, yeah.
What do you do for work?
Just eat whipped cream.
Wow.
Which is sick.
There is somebody who does that.
I mean, I'm just calling it,
because I don't know if you've seen it.
And so there is a girl literally smashes her face and bread.
And that is her job.
She is thousands of followers, hundreds of thousands of followers
who are smashing her face and bread.
So it would not surprise me if someone's out there eating whipped cream
just making bake.
Wow, I mean, if there isn't, we could become those people.
You might.
Should.
I think genuinely, I think with that, with the, you know, I feel like it's
when you find something that's so passionate about, you'll almost, you have, there's no,
like, it's almost if you can't convince yourself otherwise to work on it. So for me, like,
I've always found like the things that, there's two things, like the things that I feel
called to, so I feel called obviously to build the church and all those things.
And so that's like a calling from God.
And then there's also things that I'm passionate about.
And sometimes, not always, but sometimes there's two things line up.
And I think when they line up, if they line up, then you can approach those things with
like, I don't know, almost like a sense of like excellence.
Like you have to, it has to be amazing, because this is for God.
But then I think there are things like, you know, music and playing piano where it was
just like for me, I didn't, I didn't know another way but to become obsessed with it.
Because I was obsessed with it, I just loved it so much.
And I think sometimes, you know, people might think they want something.
For example, they might want to be a musician, but maybe what they actually want is to be
successful and not an famous as a musician.
And so the work required they never really considered.
And so maybe that's actually not what they want.
Maybe what they want is something else.
And I think, especially for low people,
in their teens and 20s, it's your whole life,
but you're trying to figure out
what is it that you're passionate about.
And sometimes, you might think you're passionate about something,
but if you're not prepared to do the work,
then maybe it's actually not what you're meant to be doing.
And so it's finding those things that you feel like you could do,
you would give everything Yeah, to make it happen and so yeah, I mean that would be my
Observation and even on myself. It's you know, I might want to get fit. I really do
But my goodness. I need I need to come I need to come over there and get a full bootcamp because I I can't do it myself
Hey, we're gonna make it happen and And then we've talked about it where we
You're gonna I'm gonna teach you how to do some bench press and you're gonna teach me how to um have an angelic voice and play the piano
I'm nice to know yeah
No, I'm just
You know I can harm you can you can harm it? Um, no, I love that. That's it. That's a great observation
Honestly, because you're so right when you're passionate about it
You'll put in the work for it when you believe in it. You'll put in the work for it and you know
With hello and all things that we do here
We work a lot and we work hard, but it's like you say I can't help but do that because I love it
And because I'm on this mission and I want to make the world a better place
I want to help build the church and that's a massive mission right that we should all be thinking about which you know when you
when you think about it like that it's like I can't help but get up and want to do it want to work
want to so see it and to see this um flourishing so I love that great observation um all right lastly
you are about to go on a new tour called worshiporship Night's tour with Dante, who is also on the podcast.
And we love Dante. That's going to be epic. Honestly, we have to go. We need to look at the
dates, like for real. Yeah, you need to come. Just saying that we need to go. So starting
in August, tell me about that. I know you're obviously still a part of all things. Hillsong,
but you're also going on this new tour to tell us about it. Yeah, well, it literally happened so quickly.
Dante texted me maybe like two weeks ago.
Wow.
And just asked, would I be up for just coming along?
And so I was like, yeah.
That's it.
That's it.
Why not?
And so that's kind of it.
And so I think the night's going to be pretty awesome.
It's like, there's going to be Aaron Moses, Dante,
and myself.
Wow.
And where it's going to be up there the whole night,
leading worship.
Wow. And so I have no idea what there the whole night leading worship. Wow.
And so I have no idea what it's gonna look like yet,
set wise, but it literally in the last two weeks,
like weeks, it's come together.
So, and I love those guys.
I love Dante.
We've been friends for years.
So I think it's gonna be fun.
That's awesome.
It's one of those.
Anything could happen, type nights.
Love it.
Well, now we really have to be there.
So I don't know where you can take it.
You have to take it, but not to put you in the spot.
Do you know where we can get our tickets?
Yep, I'm gonna, I'll tell you a link.
Hold on to me a second.
It's somewhere online.
So around.
Well, everyone look up Worship Knight's tour
with Dante Bo and Aiden King.
Aiden, it's been just a joy talking to you.
Christian and I, like I said, we love you. We're cheering you on. You are doing great things
and more than all the things you're doing, you're just a great human. And so we are glad
to know you. And thanks for being on the World That's Good Podcast.
I love you guys. Thank you for having me. Come wait to hang out again soon, hopefully.
I know. We're going to a worship night. But beyond that, we've got to hang.
Come to Louisiana.
We'll get the boot camp going.
You'll work out with Christian, and then you'll
teach us piano.
All right, I'm done.
Yes, it's happening.
We're making it happen.
Solid.
It's happening.
So everyone listening, we will keep you updated on that online.
I love it.
I love it.
Have a great rest of your day, Adam.
You too.
Bye, guys. you