WHOA That's Good Podcast - Dream Big

Episode Date: June 24, 2020

Sadie welcomes her friend, Bob Goff to the podcast. Listen in as they discuss ambition, dreaming big, and how to arrive at your purpose. Bob is the author of the New York Times bestselling Love Does and Everybody, Always and his latest book, Dream Big, released June 23, 2020. He is the Honorary Consul to the Republic of Uganda, an attorney, and the founder of Love Does—a nonprofit human rights organization operating in Uganda, India, Nepal, Iraq, and Somalia. He's a lover of balloons, cake pops, and helping people pursue their big dreams.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, world? That's good fan. I am so excited because we have another two time guests on the show today. One of the world's favorites, my favorite, and I just know he's going to give so much good advice from his new book DreamVay. Welcome back, Bob Goff. Oh, so, it's so good to be talking to you. I just think of the influence that you've had on my entire family's life. And it's just fun to be in the same space talking.

I know. I'm so excited. I love when we get a chance. I know you're so busy here and there everywhere. You have a grand kid now, your family. So we're excited that you're spending some time with us. I do have a grandchild. This little boy, I've wanted a grand kid since I was in junior high school.

Because I think the reason is because I saw the way my grandparents treated me. Yeah. And I wanted to be in on that. And so even though I hadn't gone on at a date, and I think I may have gone on one date in high school, but it was in law school that I found out what my greatest ambition was. And it was sweet Maria. That's awesome. I've not heard it.

I'm like, oh my gosh, I wanna get within 10 feet of her. I was really busy as we all are, but if you're listening, you know when you like somebody, even though you're busy, you have all the time in the world for them. That's right. And we ended up at the same place. There was a camp called Oakbridge,

and we went up there to serve on the work crew. She got 10 work crew girls to help out like washpots and all that. So I immediately got 10 guys because I wanted to be with intensity to her. And on the first night, there was a woman, they were having spaghetti, and I remember her pacemaker, starped, she was elderly, it stopped.

And she like, they planted in the spaghetti, and we were like, oh my gosh, but I knew how to do CPR, Sadie. And so after 30 minutes, we got her going again. And I know sweet Maria was thinking that Bob is not much to look at, but he could be helpful in a craft. And so this is where our relationship really began fast forward, 32 years, we just bought the camp.

That's amazing. And we're bought the camp. That's amazing. And we're fixing it up. That's amazing. What I'm realizing about ambitions is that it took about three years for Maria to go out on a date with me, but I knew what my ambition was and I knew she was my ambition. And I just decided to get within 10 feet of it. And I just hope that people listening will figure out

their ambition and see how could I get within 10 feet of that thing And I just hope that people listening will figure out their ambition and see how could I get within 10 feet of that thing. That's awesome. Oh, I love it, Bob. And you and Sweet Maria are the best. So funny. You got to work with what you got sometimes. If you got C.R., you got to work with what you got. I love it. I may have a lot of freckles, but I'm like, I can know how to get somebody going. That's awesome. I love what you said about ambitions. And you talk about ambitions a lot in your new book.

If you haven't read Bob's first two books, they're so good, love does, and everybody always, but now he has dream big. And you talk about ambitions. And one of the things you said is, ambitions should point you towards your legacy. And I love that. And because you and Maria, obviously,

that was your ambition. And now it's pointing towards your legacy. And so when you're encouraging people with their ambitions, how do you kind of teach people and encourage people to hone in on those things that they're ambitious about? Yeah, I would say ask yourself, if you're listening, what's something that I wanted? When I was like, even go back to 10 years old.

What's something you want? You may have wanted a bicycle and that's terrific, but what did you want more? And then ask yourself, I say, What's something you want? You may have wanted a bicycle and that's terrific, but what did you want more? And then ask yourself, I say, let's say you want a date. That's what I wanted in high school, didn't happen, but what would you want more than that? And I think if you keep going the thing underneath the thing, eventually you're going to arrive

at your purpose. You're going to say what I really want is a few authentic relationships, a purposeful, meaningful life, and faith is a few authentic relationships, a purposeful meaningful life, and faith is a big deal for me. I notice for you and many of the people listening. It's not for everybody, but if you decide that that is your purpose, that you find that in Jesus, then you say, okay, so my ambition is to love people the way that Jesus did,

and I don't always hit that, but how can I get within 10 feet of that? Yeah. And it's easy with you, Sadie, who doesn't like you? But to say, how do you love like the difficult people? And so that's why I know you're writing his influence to me. That's why I sit down and try to spell words correctly every once in a while. Because I want people to get back in touch with what do they want more than what they have to be satisfied with what you have. But did you touch with what do they want more than what they have? To be satisfied with what you have, but to just say, what do I want?

A grand kid. And actually, the crazy thing is, I told our kids, if you don't start making kids, sweet Maria and I are going to have some more kids. That's just crazy. So, just make people. That's so good. So, I hope that people will think about, what do I want more than the things that I have right now? I'm not saying be not content with those things, but to go to a deeper level of purpose and meaning something that

Isn't just going to work, but something that's going to last in your life. Yeah, that's such good advice I love that and I love that your time out purpose to you because no doubt one of the biggest questions that we get sent into live original or my page or anything that we do is how do I find my purpose? And it's like this big search people are looking for their purpose and I love that you kind of give this lead for people that go for your ambitions, look at your ambitions and then that leads you towards what your purpose is and what your purpose is to do. And so such good advice, I know a lot of people are gonna receive that today. So I know you've been on the podcast once before and our big question is, what's the best piece

of advice you've been given? But I know you kind of already shared that with us, but what's another piece of advice that you've gotten lately or heard that you were like, I'm gonna put that in the back pocket. Oh, you need to clear the kelp away. Let me tell you what I mean. I, one of my ambitions in high school was to sail across the Pacific Ocean. Wow.

Wanted to sail the Hawaii. It's 2,750 miles. And so the problem is I didn't have a boat. Oh my goodness. So sometimes you'll have an ambition and they know say like, but I lack some of the tools that I need. And a boat is a necessary tool. So I found this lousy boat. I mean, it was barely floating. And we entered this race called the Transpac. Well, we sailed over the boat and everything went great and we came in like last place, I'm sure.

But I had another ambition sail back. That's great. When I was leaving Oahu, I remember looking back at the palm trees from behind this rickety boat. And I looked, I noticed there was a piece of kelp trailing behind the boat. I didn't think anything else of it. I sailed the next 2,750 miles. And when we got to the San Francisco Bridge, I looked back to see the golden gate,

you know what I saw? Big piece of kelp. I had carried the same piece of kelp 2,750 miles. It got wrapped around the keel. And I think it slowed me down a little bit. And here's my, here's my thought. I think along the way we have these beautiful ambitions. You have ambitions for this marriage that you've entered into.

You had ambitions for a career that you had. And somewhere along the way, some kelp got wrapped around the keel. Now keels are great. Keels are what keep the sailboat upright. It's what actually makes you move forward, but they're a magnet for kelp. And so the same thing happens with your ambition. You have this ambition, you get some kelp wrapped around it. You get somebody says no, like to some internship that you tried.

You got denied the graduate position that you wanted. And you think, God shut the door. And I'm like, no, Billy said no, that's the only thing that happened. You just got a little kelp around the keel. And here's what you do to get rid of the kelp. You stop the boat. Yeah, that's so good. Stop the boat.

The kelp will fall right off. So what sometimes can be difficult for us is to stop the boat and do what he's a said in March to go away to a quiet place and rest. So fast forward 30 years, what is sweetmoury-antig I decide to do? Said, let's get that camp because it came up for sale. Let's make a place where people can come away and rest. But here's the cool part, you don't need to come to my camp to do that.

You can go to Starbucks. You can find a quiet tree. Do you know what Walt Disney had? He had a cottonwood tree, and he called it his dreaming tree. And he would sit underneath the dreaming tree with his sister Ruth, and they would just dream some dreams. I want you to find your cottonwood if you're listening in.

Find that place where you can get back to your ambitions, not just the bicycle or the convertible, but to say what's something I want more than that? Purpose, love, connection, a couple authentic relationships, create a safe place to do that in and then invite people in. Wow. I'm telling you, that's what you've done. You've invited us into beautiful things. Your wedding was one of those.

It was raucous, but it was a safe place. It was really beautiful. So many people celebrating a ton of love. And that's what we do is this worldwide family of friends. We just pull behind each other and we say, whatever your ambition is, you want an awesome marriage, I am standing behind you and Christian as you do it. Yeah, well, thank you, Bob.

That means so much and that's so good. I've never heard of that from Walt Disney, but I love him. I really look up to him. And so that's really cool to know that he did something like that. And I can so see the benefit of that. Anytime I've slowed down and intentionally

made a place to rest to re-dream or pray or just ask God what he's doing in a moment, man, I've seen it change my year. Totally changes the trajectory of where I'm going. And so that's so good. Sometimes we can mistake rest as being lazy. Yeah. People that would tune into you

would be a pretty ambitious lot. And I just want people to remember that rest is holy. Yeah. And that is we get some rest. We're actually doing the kinds of things that God wanted. He didn't want us here to just get exhausted. And God doesn't need our help.

I've asked him. Hey, yeah. Every morning, I assume, do you need my help? He's like, no, no, no, I just want you to have your eyes fixed on me. That's so good. I love it. Something you said in the book, which I thought was really funny considering our podcast is best piece of advice. But you said one of the worst piece of advice that you've ever gotten was

that people write in your book a lot like never change. And you said that that's horrible advice and never change. And I loved your thought on that. And so sure that's just that idea of not wanting to say the same. Yeah, do you remember the yearbooks? They still do those don't they? Yes, they did. That's the thing. I remember we made yearbooks for our kids in Uganda and they didn't know what a yearbook was. And so we had to actually

teach them what you do. You run up to the next person. You say, we use sign my yearbook. And so we've got 1200 students and we're teaching them how to run to each other to say, we use sign my yearbook, but I told them, don't write these words, never change. Yeah. Because that was written all over mine.

And this idea of being a new creation means we're supposed to be constantly changing. I mean, I've spent 61 long years being old Bob, but like new Bob, I met him 12 hours ago. And I'm like, okay, what's new Bob going to do? He still lives a plane. I know how to play the banjo. Did you know that about me?

I did not know that about you. I'm super bad at it, but I got it. Also during this COVID thing, I got some bagpipes and learning how to play my items. That's awesome. So I want to constantly change. Doesn't mean I need to get a kilp, but I'm thinking about it.

But what I want to do is live in to the next version of me. A more humble, more focused, more purposeful, more intentional, less judgmental, more loving version of bomb. And I think if we can change into those people, boy, I'm telling you, what we don't want to do is become each other. This idea, it's in John 17, and it was Jesus talking to his father, and he said, my prayer for them is that they would be one. And sometimes we mistake being one is being the same. So sweet, Marie and I are wildly different, but we're still one.

But we're not the one person. We're just living in to our individual gifts. And that's where I think it gets really good when you're self-aware enough to know the kelp that you've got around the keel, the things that are slowing you down in your relationships. you identify what we call in the book limiting beliefs. And that's a well used phrase. This idea that what's holding you back?

What are some of the things that had been beliefs that somebody wrote on your wall at some point that just really aren't true anymore? One of the things that wasn't true evidently is that somebody told me in my English class that was the teacher, that it wasn't very good at this. And I go like, indeed, I may not have been very good at it at the time, but I've changed. And I think I've said like, you know what?

I can spell cat with a C and a K. Like to say, actually, I'm pretty good at things. So I want the people that are Like to say actually I'm pretty good at things. So, so I want the people that are listening to say, don't be confused by the older version of you. Do what Jesus said. He was always talking about the next version. Even when Peter said, I've never even heard of the guy and the roosters going off, he said, Peter, you're a rock. He saw the next version of him. And if we could be self-aware enough to see the next version of us, boy, I'm telling you Jesus could make that happen. That's so good, Bob. And

it's really cool that you said that because whenever I went to the dream big myself, because you do those events and you did one in Nashville and you invited me and I went, I did not know what to expect at all. And man, that really did help change my life and who I was becoming because I finally let go of the old me that I had put on myself for forever and I didn't even know it. I remember we got there and you were telling us to go back when we were like eight years old.

Think about who we were and who we are now and all that stuff. And I remembered something that I had never thought of before but when I was in fourth grade, one of my teachers kind of pulled me out of class and shared with me that I was really behind in my reading. I just wasn't as smart as the other kids in reading

and so I was gonna have the good to a special class. And she pulled me out just like so abruptly and like brought me to another class. And I like left all my friends and from that day I literally just felt stupid. I just felt like I wasn't a smart and I wasn't as good at reading and all those different things. And so fast forward and to people asking me

if I wanna write a book. And I kept saying, like, oh, I can't do that. I'm not smart enough to do that. I can't even read a book. And I remember my mom just saying, like, why are you saying that? Like, yes, you can. Like, yes, you are smart enough.

And literally, I know I carried that with me for most of my life until I'm at Dream Big. And I just remember breaking. And I don't like to cry in public, but I could not stop crying. Cause that just was set free that day. And since then, I've written two more books and have not believed that lie.

And so what you're saying and what you're writing, what you're talking about, is truly gonna change people's life. And I can say that because it's changed mine. And so I encourage people listening, really think about what Bob's saying. Because if you think about it and you apply it to your life and you ask yourself these questions,

you start dreaming big, you're gonna be amazed at the things that free you up to run a lot faster. And so Bob, thank you for doing that. Oh, I just love this. I remember you and I plotted and I'm planning to get to San Quentin and your folks were there with me right before the COVID hit.

Yeah. Actually, all the guards were going nuts because they saw they're like, oh my gosh. But I teach a class there and I've got a bunch of guys that are we break into small groups, we went around my small group, and in the circle of men we were talking about how much time is left on your sentence,

and the average, excluding me, 107 years. Wow. So these guys are gonna be in there for a couple more minutes, and we had been in the prison yard, and they're pushing weights around, and doing all that. And I said, you know what, if this barbell was like, you know, if I tried to push that, that would be on my chest. And I asked them, what would be one thing you'd want to get off your chest right here in

this really safe place where we can just have these kinds of conversations? And so we went around and one by one, each of the people said, this is one thing I'd want to get off my chest. And we got to the last guy and he says, you know, I've been in here for 20 years and I've been telling everybody I got framed, I didn't do it. And he paused and he said, you know what, I want to get off my chest, I need to let you know I did it.

And I'm telling you, in that moment, that guy was the freest guy I've ever met. Wow. And I think one of the keys to getting to our ambitions is to letting go some of those living beliefs, the person was flat wrong, they yanked you out of the classroom, to say they may have been just having a bad day or they may not have been good at what they did, but I'm not going to let that push me around anymore. Yeah.

And this guy getting real with some of his setbacks, just getting honest about it is the way to move forward. And so if you're listening to this thing and there's a wide spot in the road, could you just get real with it? Find a friend, the kind of friend I've found in Sadie, where you could just be honest. We have a really honest open relationship

and we can say things to one another. Just find that place where you can do that, find a couple people and I'll tell you, man, one of the things that will happen is that you're going to find yourself ready to launch forward because you don't have all this baggage. Some people have more baggage than Delta Airlines. And I think you just let some of that stuff go. That's right. That's so good. It makes me think about in the book when you talk about how fear stops love and it's tracks. And I thought that was a really powerful idea because, you know, someone who's struggled with fear a lot in my life, I can attest to that. It definitely does, but you don't really think all the time about how fear is

stopping you from from love or receiving love because you kind of send the book. All the times you think that that's just hate or that's just evil or whatever, but fear is a huge part of that. And so I was just going to ask like from the perspective of people who might not even realize the fears in their life, how do you start to identify if you are motivated by fear or motivated by love? What are those things that you can look for? Say, maybe I'm afraid to be vulnerable, to be real, to dig deeper or share or trust or whatever that is. What are those things that

you can look for to notice if my fear is really stopping love and it strikes? Yeah, I would say what's your first thought, what's your last thought. So, for instance, I love that we're awake for a while and then the wake God made it, as we then would have an opportunity to sleep. The reason I say an opportunity to sleep, a lot of people have their eyes closed, but they're not sleeping.

That's true. They're not even resting. Now I can smell the wood burn in when sweet Maria Goff is still thinking, she's in bed or either close but she ain't sleepin'. Those sleepless nights, those things that keep you awake, what's your last thought? Is your last thought gratitude or is it fear of, oh my gosh, I'll be found out? I also want to know what's your first thought, that reset after getting some time, downtime

with the slept well or not. What's the first thought in the morning after getting some time, downtime with these slept well or not. What's the first thought in the morning if you go like, oh my gosh, this is my biggest fear. Or are you waking up with anticipation? And I'm not voting for either one. I'm just saying let's get real with it. And if you can identify what that is, that's probably one of your freshest points of time when you wake up.

You'll say, what's the first thing you think you go like, I am so afraid that. is that's probably one of your freshest points of time when you wake up you'll say what's the first thing you think you go like I am so afraid that or I'm so looking forward to and wherever you are in that spectrum like just know it and then dig a little deeper to say what's the thing underneath the thing what's that thing that's making me feel that and for a lot lot of us, it's just a need for validation. So if you say, I'm afraid it won't go well, say like, how come I'm afraid it won't go well? Oh, it's because I'm trying to get my validation

from a bunch of strangers. And that doesn't mean that your bad, it just means like you're actually like a lot of other people. And so what we get to do is to say, is there a way to change the first slot in the last thought to a sense of gratitude for what God has done, what he might make possible today, and how it can overcome some of the things that have marked my past.

If you've been in a relationship and things went like not the way that you were hoping, things got out of hand, and you start sending these messages to you about who you are and what you're about. And I want to tell you, Jesus is one word for you. He calls you beloved. And that is the only word he's got for you. And I wish for you that that would be a first and a last thought. When you wake up in the morning, you call yourself by your name, beloved. When you go asleep tonight to close your eyes to say, wow, I can rest in knowing that in God's eyes, I am His beloved. I might not get everything right along the way. I may have let some people down, but in His eyes, I'm His beloved. And these will be the incremental changes I'll make to live into that. Yeah, that's so good.

I love it. One of my favorite quotes from the book is you said, we can't fix what we don't take time to understand. And what you're saying is so true to that statement that if we're gonna find out what we're motivated by, whether it's fear or love, we have to stop and ask yourself those questions and take time to really understand why

and where that's coming from. And so I think that's so good. And then talking about Jesus, calling this a 11, you said something just so great in the book. You said loving people the way Jesus did is great theology. And I think a lot of times you even talk about this too. People really over complicate what it looks like to follow Jesus.

And you put it so simply. And I think that's why a lot of people are really attracted to your books and your message. They understand Jesus more, but it's not watering down the gospel. You just say it how it is. Don't over-complicate it, and I really love that. What is something that you'd say to people who maybe have been over-complicating it? And you're just like, hey, Jesus loves you for those people.

What would be a message that you want to share with them in their heart? Because a lot of people actually send in this question when I asked people on my platform, Ella's sister, I said, what do you want to ask Bob Gaw? And a lot of people were questioning their faith or having people around them question their faith and they were like, what would Bob say to my friend? What would Bob say to me and all of these faith questions? And so what would you say?

I think that sometimes we just need to take a big breath. If you're listening in, just take a big breath. We're not gonna do yoga and burn incense, but just like, do this, take one big breath. Here we go. I could just take a breath every once in a while. You don't need to get waked out about all these things that are waking you out.

I think God just delights in having us be His. And I think there's something beautiful in doing that. I get it that it's complicated, but don't make your faith complicated, but don't you dare make it easy, because it isn't easy. It'll kill you, but it'll kill every previous version of you. I think what God wants us to do is it just enjoy him and to enjoy that we're on this process with him. This is going to take a little while to get there. So, if we could say, when is it that we're going to get insert here your big ambition, the dream, the date, the job, the career, but aim for stuff that's actually going to last. If you're aiming for popular, you're going to lose popular. If you want to ploy, join the circus. If you want Jesus, join hurting people.

Take a genuine interest in them. It's a first in Philippians 220. It's Paul talking about Timothy. He's a guy who takes a genuine interest in the people around him. And so I think if we were to say that I'm going to find a lot of my purpose in taking a genuine interest in you, Sadie, to put myself in a position to be your student and to say, what can I learn from you? What can I learn from the men and women that work around me? We have a very flat organizational chart. It's just, we're all just working together.

So what gets it done and is there something I can do to help you on your way? So good. And there's something beautiful about that. And so telling everybody what they need to do, because I want to do something right up until I'm told what I want to do. So if somebody tells me like you need to, particularly when it comes to matters of faith,

I just think about the way Jesus did it. Who do you say I am? And some say a teacher and a prophet, but I say you're got any tells of Simon Peter, you nailed it, don't tell anybody, which blows the minds of all the evangelicals, but I think it's this. He was saying show people, don't tell people.

So good. We don't need more information, we need more examples. And what you and I get to be, it's just being an example. So I don't care how many boats are floating in the sea, Galilee couldn't care less. I actually don't even care that there's four words for a love in Greek, a Goppe Vallejo. I saw the way that you and Christian looked at each other. I know what love looks like. And be an example of that. And I'm telling you, finishing that story with Simon Peter, he said this, flesh and blood doesn't reveal this to you, but the Spirit of God. And so, as we show up,

as we're authentic, as we take the deep dive into who we are, why we're doing what we're doing, what we're going to do is we're going to find Jesus. It's crazy. He's going to reveal himself in really inexplicable ways. It's amazing. it's so beautiful, Bob. Thank you. I really can't think of a better way to end it than right there, but I do want to quote you one more time because I like to tell you the best piece of advice that I got from your book. And I love when you said, take away whatever it is you're known for

and whatever it is left that too you are. And I thought that was really good, especially, being an influencer in a way, but for anybody, I think especially during this quarantine where everything's kind of been stripped away that we're known for, and we've really been left to face who we are. It's a really good thing to ask ourselves and a really good thing to work on in our life. And so Bob, thank you for writing this book. Dream big is going to set people free and let people dream so much bigger.

And we just thank you for the influence you are. And I'm thankful that we're friends. So thank you so much, Bob. Thanks, Sadie. Love you guys. Thanks, Bob. We love you. Oh, we love you.

We love you. Whoa, that was so good. So much good advice from Bob Gough, the man, the myth, the legend. And now we have another legend in the house, K-Swaggy, hey there. You know I love Bob Gop. For those of you new to the podcast, K-Swaggy is my mom,

but best known as K-Swag, because she's a swag master. But we have some good and bad advice sent in from the whoa, that's good podcast Instagram. So thank you everyone who follows along and sends an advice. All right, tell me what you think about this mom. And this is interesting. So just wait and do nothing.

God will provide. What do you think about that? I don't think we have some responsibility to do something like, I don't think we should just, I mean, yes, waiting on the Lord, I think is biblical. I mean, there's a verse about that. I'm sure there is. So I think, yes, we definitely need to wait on the Lord because I think is biblical. I mean, there's a verse about that. I'm sure there is. So I think, yes, we definitely need to wait on the Lord

because it's in his timing. But we are not called to do nothing. I think there's a verse also that says faith without deeds is dead. And so we are called to action and to live our life and just go for things. I think that God is with us. You know, we have to ask for God's direction

and seek His guidance. And we know that through His Word, but we should actually do something. I love it. That's so good. If you haven't heard of sermon, I preached a few years ago, called Don't Waste the Waiting. It's on YouTube. But it's kind of the idea of like, just because you're waiting doesn't mean that time is wasted. And God can do something in you in that time. And so you never want to just count a season out of your life and just be like, well, this one doesn't matter because I'm waiting on something. Like, no, God's still doing something in that.

I might not be what you're waiting for, but it's something else. And that's just as important. So good. All right. Next. I've heard you say this to me. Don't overthink it. So you're not, you know, I'm gonna say,

well, that's good on this one. That's really good. Yes. I think that is good advice. We can definitely get in our head a little bit. And my mom used to say, like, sometimes if you hang out in your head that you're in the wrong neighborhood, like sometimes like we can just hang out a little bit too far

in our head and we overthink things. And it becomes much bigger than it really is ever meant to be. So yeah, I don't think we should ever think things. Wait, what did you say if you hang out in your head you're in the wrong neighborhood? That is such a good saying. Like two mom always says, don't camp out in your brain. Yeah, just like don't say, don't say to tent in your brain.

I love that one. That's so good. All right, it says, short cuts help you get to your goals faster. Well, true. But the definitely not short cut. Yeah. But probably not good advice. Perhaps not to your goals. It might, short cuts might get you somewhere and it might. There's like, I mean, the short cuts, I guess you use on a computer that like gets you to where you're going. What you learn what the short shortcuts are. But generally, the shortcut way is probably not the best way.

Yeah, and to be honest, in my short 23 years of life, and about five years in the business world, normally the shortcuts you do end up being the longest route, because you got to go back and fix it. That is true. That is true. That's really good. Yeah, that's really good.

And there's really not a lot of shortcuts in life, honestly. I think a lot of times in our world, especially because of the, like, I don't know, people like make YouTube sensation or Instagram, all of a sudden, you have all these followers, people think, oh, they just happened overnight. But no, like, you see the behind the scenes of work. I mean, I see the scenes of work of what you do and how much time you put into every single thing you're doing and just the behind the scenes of even trying to figure out how to like Oh my gosh this podcast

Yeah, do all the things that you have to do everything that's worth doing in life takes work and it's worth it in the end So true amen, yeah mom has seen me on the struggle train lately because it has been so hard during this quarantine trying to figure out You know how to do a lot of things that I haven't had to do, that I've had a team to do with me. And now, all this all being quarantined, I had to pick up some of the different areas as I'm sure all of you have.

You gotta do some things that are your specialty, or aren't what you're natural or good at, or maybe not even what you wanna do, but it has to do with where you're going and what you're doing, and it all is worth it. Which is, I actually lead us to the next piece of advice, which is, know your why. And I could not think of better advice, especially right now. It's just when things get frustrating, like little things, you have to know why you're

doing it. And then when you remind yourself of your why and you see the bigger picture, you're like, man, this is so worth it. Well, that's good. When you said it, I, this is so worth it. Well, that's good. You said it. I think it's so true. It's if you know what you're doing it for, there's also a verse that talks about working for the Lord and not for man.

Like when you know you have a greater purpose in what you're doing in anything in life, then it just gives you that energy and that passion inside to continue to do it. So I think knowing your why is really important. So good. And last, but certainly not least, also the last song we finished in our reception, therefore I think this is great of eyes. Don't stop believing.

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