WHOA That's Good Podcast - Gratitude and Celebration

Episode Date: January 23, 2019

Sadie kicks off Season 2 by welcoming Pastor Rich & DawnChere Wilkerson Jr. to the podcast. They discuss how to stay focused in the chaos of life, the importance of gratitude and celebration, and of course, share the best piece of advice they have ever received! Pastor Rich & DawnChere Wilkerson Jr. planted and pastor VOUS Church in Miami. vouschurch.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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to my very favorite people, seriously, it's so funny because these two people, we run into each other everywhere. It's just like, I'm sure you all know them. It's Rich and Don Sherry, Wilkerson, and welcome to the WoW That's Good Podcast. Let's go, pop to be here. We are so happy to be here.

We love you, Sadie. You're amazing. This is just awesome. I have to tell them before we even start the story on how we like first met, because I don't even know if you guys know how bizarre that was to me like So this what happened so first of all I had seen that they were in New York and I was like oh my gosh That would just be so cool because I'm in New York if we ran into each other and you know I follow y'all We've seen you know passion stuff like that and I was like man. This would just be awesome

And so I had just home my mom that morning. I was like man I would just love to run into them But it's New York City like my expectations were not very high Well then on the 47th floor of the Empire State Building come off the elevator and You were standing there. You were doing your press run for your book. It wasn't Friends of Centers What was the book at that time? It was a sand cappuccine.

I remember it. Yes. And I was like, no way. Because I just said that this morning. Then the next day, as if that wasn't crazy, I go and I'm pretty sure I was like photobombing your Snapchat story that you were doing. Didn't know it was you and it was you and DC. Y'all turned around. That was so crazy.

How wild is that? I'm not going to think that that happened. But that is, I didn't know what I said. That is what God said. You know what? You guys need to hang out with each other more. So I'm probably going to get you to mind me. That's right.

Why? Because you need to obey the words of Lord Jesus. Exactly. What am I doing over here? All I can do is say. I love it. I'll never forget that though. You were still kind. You came right over and it was, I mean, for me, I'm from Louisville and the two and that Southern hospitality came

through. I love you. Yeah, yeah. I know. I was so excited. I felt like we were already friends. I was like, guys, I'm like, oh wait, I'm Sadie. But no, it was awesome. I just come out of the Eric Batac, this interview, and that can be kind of an intense interview sometimes. So it was very, very, very logical. And I think my brain has been, so I was trying to just come out of that. No, you, hey, you did great, you did great. And I'm seeing you two in the next day.

That was just wild. It was awesome. And so anyways, I'm glad that we're getting more than a second in New York, but that is cool how this friendship started and everything. So we'll get to the world. That's a good question. The world that's a good question. What is the best piece of advice that you've ever been given? And this is going to be a really awesome one for everybody to hear from you guys because I know all of my friends, like if you ask them, like who they get most of their advice from without even knowing y'all, I'm not even kidding. Most of my friends, like if you ask them, like who they get most of their advice from without even knowing y'all

I'm not even kidding most of my friends would say y'all I know my friends Watch y'all's relationship videos and your sermons and everything and so I'm really interested to hear just who poured into y'all's life and what was that best piece of advice? Don't you want to take it away? I gotta say that question, well that's good. That is a nice. Don't you want to take it away? I got to say that question. Well, that's good. That is a good question. Well, that's good. I think for me, when you ask that question to me,

I kind of go back to Louisiana being in the back seat with a million brothers, my sisters, and my dad had a conversation with us. And it's a conversation that really I'd never forgotten and I'd go back two times in time again. And he just, my dad is a pastor. He's also a football coach. And he's always been really honest with us and open

about his walk with God and really encouraging in ours. And I remember he told me, he just said, if you'll focus on, you'll keep the main thing, the main thing. That's the best advice that everybody give it. He's the main thing, the main thing. That's the best advice that everybody give it. Keep the main thing, the main thing. That there are two things you can focus on in your life. It's reading that word and spending time talking to them. And if you'll just always come back to those two things,

you said no matter how crazy life is, no matter how confused you are, those two things are going to bring clarity to everything around you. And I remember being in the back seat and hearing that and literally writing it down because I was like, whoa, that's good. You know, it was like so good. And I've never forgotten it. I think I've been in a lot of different seasons in my life, moving to Miami, getting married,

having a baby, placing a church, going to college, all these different things. And I can't tell you how many times I've just come back to that. Like, keep the same thing the same thing because it's easy in the chaos of life, even the college, all these different things. And I can't tell you how many times I've just come back to that. Keep the same thing the same thing, because it's easy in the chaos of life, even the good times, to lose sight of the same thing. And those two things, they're everything to me. I lose sight of who I am and who I am in God

when those two things aren't the foundation of my week and of my day. Well, that is actually so, so good. And, you know, I think that not even really doing life without every day, just from seeing y'all on Instagram, you can kind of see how like, that they're so steady. And y'all've had so many different life seasons,

just on Instagram, you know, just like, with the books coming out and having a baby and planning a church and all of these things, but yeah, it still feels like who your RS people has remained the same. There's a lot of humility and a lot of obviously God's hand on your life. And I think it's really cool because I watch my family go through so many different seasons and in the public eye and people say like, how do you not change? And it's that idea of like if you keep God in the same place,

the center of everything that you do, then, then, you know, it things will level out because he remains the same because he is constant and watching that in your life and then hearing that that was the advice that was given to you. That's really, really cool. And I mean, just from a friend like you do that so well, even though I like feel like I don't know you all that well, I do feel like I know you're not to say you do that very well. And that's really, really cool. So, you're so kind.

No, really. It's awesome. It's so good. We all need that. For me, it's like I have to come back and remind myself constantly, you know? Like we all, we all need help. And I'm 34 and I come to season all the time where I'm like, you know what? Got to recalibrate, do the center, got to focus, you know, on the thing that is the main thing. So we're all in it together. Thank God. Thank God.

That's awesome. That's so good. I love it. I think for me, I'm thinking about this question. And then, right, it's a tough question because there's just the entire vital. So many people that have mental a lot to me growing up, but I think I grew up right next door to my, my grandparents, in Tacoma, Washington until I was 14 years of age. And my grandfather, he passed in the same church for 40 years.

He was just a man of integrity. He was a visionary, he was just consistent. And he was sort of famous for like, these little one liners that I guess today would actually really work well with our Twitter and caption generation that we all live in you know underneath characters but he was sort of doing that a long time ago and he had so many different ones that I'm just kind of always stuck with me but I think my favorite phrase or line that he shared that I find myself sharing every month or with somebody and you should say this you should say the things you appreciate tend to get better

and the things you depreciate tend to get worse and I think it's just a true statement in the sense that the things that I'm grateful for the things that I Focus on and the things that I celebrate those things start to get better I appreciate them even more but when I'm complaining or when I Get satisfied or when I'm disgruntled frustrated, those things, they get worse and worse and worse. So obviously the key is the shift or the perspective around and to start to count your blessings. But I think, over and over again, I think that we live in a day and age right now where

there's so many cool things that are happening, some amazing things happening in the church, but I think even in culture and society. Yet it's also, you know, it's also mixed with some really challenging things are taking place. I mean, we're seeing things like depression, anxiety, and even suicide being on the rise, like never before. And I think if we're not careful, what we'll do is we'll live our whole life, comparing ourselves to someone else, and we'll miss out on really amazing things that God has right in front of us. And so I think we really must learn how to get focused and be grateful for what we do have.

And the more grateful I am for what I have in life that God's given me, it's crazy to see that it increases, that it grows, that it gets bigger, and that it gets better. And it sounds like super simple, but I think it's actually really profound and really true. And so I think over and over again, Don, Sri and I and our team, we're always just trying to say, all right, this is the plot that God's giving us. And we're going to be thankful for it. We're going to celebrate it. And as we do that, it's amazing how it gets better and better. And if we're not careful, we'll compare to somebody else and we'll complain about it. If we complain about it, it just gets smaller and smaller and smaller.

Yeah, well, that's so good. You're so right, it seems so simple, but that is very profound. That could, it's like one of those things that even if someone's situation doesn't change at all, everything about if their perspective would change, it could literally change their life. And that's just really cool to hear you say. And I know that you guys like are literally immersed in like a world full of people. And so from y'all's perspective of seeing this

and then still being able to say something like that and just saying like this would change everything. I want to ask you because like, you mentioned that we're a perspective. Like if you're a perspective would shift to like appreciate the things that you appreciate and watch them get better instead of complaining and all of these things. How would you tell somebody?

Maybe just the most practical way, who would come and say, okay, yeah, I hear you, you're saying perspective change, but there's so many bad things. I can't stop focusing on the anxiety, on the depression, on the suicide, on all of these things. How would you say like in a practical way of, let's begin to shift our perspective. What are some of the things that you would,

I guess, encourage them to fix their eyes on. Sure. Well, I think, you know, I think at the same time as we're talking about some of this stuff, because I think that we are living in a day and age right now that we've never been here before in society. And so things like depression and things like mental illness are real. And so we don't ever want to just try to get sound bite answers towards things that are very complex and complicated.

And so I think if anyone's listening right now and they're dealing with chronic depression or if they're even to the place of the thing about hurting themselves, what we would say everyone here is please go tell someone about it, please go and talk to a professional, go and talk to someone. I mean, I think we live in a world right now where we try to shoulder things on our own in isolation and we have secrets and challenges will always be as thick as our secrets.

And so we have to come out of height and we have to come and talk to somebody And we don't want to get alone in our discouragement. So that's a really serious thing for me because I think we've got somebody friends that Yeah, we don't even know if they were going through really really tough times and really troubling times challenging times I just want to make sure even that out there it's listen He just knows that there's somebody that wants to talk to those people that's people that want to help you and there is help for the situation. But I do think all of us, Rich Wilkerson, Jr. Donnery, Sadie, there's these moments that come where we have to fight back, we have to challenge ourselves because things like depression

or things like big mood swings or things like a negative perspective, we can all of us can become victims of that. I mean, we can all of us can become victims of that. I mean, we don't all have 100% of the time positive thoughts. We don't always have 100% positive talk, insecurities, shame, guilt, feelings of inadequacy. Those things can show up in our life. And so I think some of the most practical things for shifting our perspective is what the Bible says.

I love Philippi's chapter 4. You got to read that whole scripture and you got to look at it like a prescription from a doctor. All says rejoice in the Lord always and then like a good preacher is like I'll say it again. For joy. Sometimes the point is that good you got to say it twice. I want to say that he's talking about joy, he's talking about choosing joy, he's talking about praising God. He's like, let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near and present your request to God with thanksgiving, with prayer and supplication.

He said, bring all this stuff to God with thanksgiving. I love that word once again, thanking God. And then what he said, this, he says, then the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts, but not just your hearts, also your mind. And so what I see there as I read book in chapter four is that Paul is saying is things that we have to do in order to achieve peace, not just peace of the heart,

but peace of the mind. I mean, I think Jesus actually solves things like mental illness and things like depression, but he's given us some actions, and some of the actions are rejoice, choosing joy, declaring joyful things, thanking God, creating a gratitude list. I just read this book, not too long ago, it's called The Happiness Equation. It's a secular book, but he gave seven things that everyone should be doing that are research based, not the Bible, but research based, that increases your joy and happiness,

that shifts your perspective. One of those things is taking three walks in a week. So like exercising, one of those things is a total unplug. Get off social media from, try, try, try going on vacation, it's actually really helpful. Talks about two minute meditations. He talks about random acts of kindness. I love that idea, like doing something for somebody

without any kind of expectation. By someone's coffin, you know, as Jesus who said, it's more blessed to give than it is to receive. He talks about the idea of creating what you do is do a list of five gratitude that every week you write down five things that you're just you're thankful for. It sounds so simple, but as you actually speak that out, I think you can't help be thankful and get joyful.

And Mia says that the joy of the Lord is our strength. So honestly, I think the key is gratitude. Gratitude turns to joy. Joy turns to strength. And I'm always trying to figure out, whenever I feel like I'm gonna funk with a perspective, I always try to sit down and take a moment and write out some things I'm thankful for.

Because there's always more things to be thankful for than there are things that are going wrong. And that's good. You know, I remember one time I heard this idea that like in order to change your perspectives, you have to change your pace and you have to change your place. Wow. And when you change those things up for a minute, your perspective, you have to change your pace and you have to change your place. Wow. And when you change those things up for a minute, your perspective changes.

So I don't know, change your rhythm up that. We change your routine up. Change the place that you're in. Sometimes, we're just too close to the problem and we need to step back to the problem and the problem comes into perspective a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I think everything that Rich is saying is,

they're all things that I'm constantly reminding myself of, because the truth is that the news is so heavy every single day. And you know when you work in ministry, and you don't have to work in ministry to feel overwhelmed by what's going on and the lives of your friends and your family. And in your own heart, there's so much around us that is so dark and so broken and so real the destruction that's taking place. And I think something that I've been focusing on lately is to up my input of the right things. Like from my perspective to change, it's

not that I'm ignoring the news, it's not that I'm ignoring the needs around me. No, I need to understand the needs around me because that's why we're here. But also, I have to up the input of the hope in my life, of the joy in my life. I've got to up the input of spending time and worship and prayer and filling my mind with things that breathe life.

And Richard was talking about Philippians and Philippians for eight family brothers and sisters, whatever's true, whatever's noble, whatever's right, whatever's pure, whatever's lovely, whatever's admirable. If anything's exonerated, where do you think about such things? And I think it's just such a clear command for all of us. So like up our input of the right thing, so that we can carry the weight that God has called us to carry.

You know, we do need to be able to carry others birds. We need to be able to walk through tough times, deep valleys, with those that we love. But we've got to focus on the right things. Our perspective isn't just overwhelmed with the darkness, but we know, no, the light of God's within us. Like I love that it says, whatever's lovely, lovely isn't just something flowery and beautiful. The word lovely means whatever evokes the emotion of love. So how

often am I focusing on things that bring that emotion and that power of love within me? I think a lot of times the news or you know stories around me are what's going on in our lives, it evokes the feeling of fear, it evokes the feeling of being overwhelmed, it evokes the feeling of honestly feeling helpless. But I think when we shoot the think on these things, I know that my life and my attitude changes, my response changes, everything changes when I choose to apply input at the right thing.

Right. Wow guys, that was so good. Literally, I'm taking notes on my phone. I'm not even kidding. I can listen to this later. I love that. This is so good. And I just love that y'all do all this together.

Like as a couple and I'll do it and there's probably challenges that come with them sure there are but it's beautiful that you all do it together And how y'all bounce off of one another you can tell that y'all really y'all really do it together You really walk life together and I think that's beautiful and I want to just encourage any friends that are listening and Marriages that are listening, any marriages that are listening, any just relationship in general. I just want to encourage you to speak life into one another like they're doing, like up the input, up the input, these little things like this, just like encourage your friends, encourage your relationship, look at them, like let's find the joy together,

let's find the things that are lovely together. If we all had to be in this world together and see all the hard things, let's encourage each other with the good things. And guys, thank you all so much for just pouring into us today and sharing y'all's advice and sharing the advice that y'all have been given. It was so special. Y'all are awesome. We love you so much. We think the world of you we admire you. We inspire both of us. I think you're doing an excellent job. I think you are here for such a time as this and you're so needed, you're voices so needed. I didn't think anything you're doing is just so attractive in every way

and so we're beyond blown away and inspired by you. And we're behind you. We're totally behind you. Can you on every step? We've got good friends in Miami. We will fight anybody on your behalf. Rich, I think you're fighting for your outris. Oh my gosh, seriously thank you all so much.

That really means a lot. You're awesome and I'll get back with you. When I'm coming to Miami and hopefully it's really so much better. You better get down. You're all amazing. Love you guys so much. Bye.

Bye. What's up? What's up? What's up? All right, y'all. You know what time it is. Time to call Mama. So we're going to call Mama with our best piece of advice and our worst piece of advice.

Let's see what she has to say. Hi baby. Hey Mama. Okay, I just had the best conversation with Don Cherie and Rich Wilkerson junior. Oh, that's awesome. No, you know they brought it. It was awesome. I cannot wait to listen. Yeah, that was full of good advice, but now are you ready to see if you can decide if this is good advice? Oh, really, really bad advice. I'm ready. Okay bring it on. Okay let's see let's see. This is actually really funny. You can finish that burger, keep going.

Wait. That is bad advice. I feel like that is like our like siblings dinner table though. You can finish it. You got it. And then we're sitting like over that time at a 10 sister shubber rolls and I couldn't even walk. It always ends bad. But I was thinking about when Rebecca first moved here and like she thought she had to finish her play because in Taiwan, her grandmother told her that whatever she didn't finish in like this life she has to eat all mushed up in the afterlife. Remember that? I do remember that. And she literally gained 45 pounds the first year she was here because she's like eight pounds. You literally have 45 pounds. Everything on her plate. That's nothing sad, Drew. I remember you talking to her about it.

What were you saying? Yeah, I'm not I've never been like a proponent that I'm like when you're full you can stop. Like you don't have to finish everything in your play. This is not a rule. Well it's so funny. Is I remember Rebecca like gained 45 pounds and you said Rebecca. I don't know what your grandma said to you but what kind of heaven is that? Yeah, really. So where is after life ever?

But also I gotta say mom you were this like I don't even know how you do it like You'll have the most amazing meal in front of you and like genuinely you'll just stop and you'll have so much left And I'm like how did you do that? They're so controlling you must have it's crazy I don't know what it is. I just can't eat at all like I have to leave a couple of bites Like I don't I'd never finish my plate. I don't know why, but. Oh my gosh. Well for everyone out there who tells people to keep going,

look at K-Swag, you know that you actually can stop. All right. The children are not gonna starve in Africa if you don't eat it. You know, you hear that, like the moms are like, there's children starving in Africa, and you're not eating your food. Like that's not gonna affect it. You just send money to kids in Africa and feed to the effort but don't you don't finish your flight

That was really good. Whoa. All right. You just brought the good advice Let's see now this one's controversial. I feel like especially in our day today I don't know if that's funny it that set me up like I'm saying a joke But I actually do think this can be controversial. It's fake until you make it. Well, okay. I think there is something to that. We don't ever want to tell people to be fake necessarily, but I think there is something

to like, I think the better way to say that is this. Act your way into a better way of feeling. Whoa. So I'm So I zone. That was so good. Because the way we act in things we do affect our feelings, and sometimes if we let our feelings guide us, then OK, yeah, I don't feel like getting off this couch.

I don't feel like doing anything. I don't feel like being nice. But if we act in a certain way, it makes, it will make us feel better. If we get up and we smile and, you know, there's even studies that show about how like how smiling affects your, the chemistry and your body and how it affects other people. And so sometimes we can't let our feelings be our guide. We have to act our way into a better way of feeling. Well that was so good.

Seriously, so good. I'm like shook. But also like, because when I've read a fake it to you, make it, you know, it was on the world that's good, sent in from the world that's good. And I do think like you said, there's some, there's a benefit to that, certainly, and at certain times, and I think you definitely need to you don't want to just Pout around all day long

But then there's also such like a push right now to be like vulnerable and to be transparent And there's a beauty about people knowing where you're at But then there's also an extreme and that and so what you said you just you just Blade the hammer down that was awesome Well, good. Yeah, I definitely don't think we should you said you just you just blade the hammer down. That was awesome Well, good. Yeah, I definitely don't think we should you know You you don't ever want to be fake fake is definitely not what what we're striving for and so I don't think we should Encourage people to be fake, but I do think we should not be guided by our feelings Yeah, as much as sometimes we are

That's good everybody needs to hear it. Turn your volume up and rewind 15 seconds. Well, I love you mom. Thanks for your advice. Love you baby, anytime. Bye. Bye. Hey friends, okay.

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