WHOA That's Good Podcast - How To Have Your Life Not Suck

Episode Date: December 25, 2019

Sadie interviews author and speaker Bianca Olthoff to discuss her new book, How To Have Your Life Not Suck. This lighthearted but practical interview with Bianca will motivate and encourage you.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey yo, hey yo, welcome back to the world that's good podcast. Y'all, I have one of the funniest people joining us on the podcast today. She is a sister from another mister. We have been to prison together, not, you know, in prison, but we've spoken out of prison. We have been to Israel together. We have been to DC together. We've actually run into each other and a lot of really unique places. It is Bianca old-topped.

She is so fun. She's so great and she has so much good advice. She has a new book out right now called How to Make Your Life Not Suck. And you know what? She will help you through it. Whatever situation you're in, she's awesome. Welcome to the podcast Bianca and Murray Christmas. I am so excited for this moment because I wanted my favorite people and like legit favorite people

in the world. Biancaka. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you, Sadie. I'm so excited to be here. Now, this is so funny. So I was reading your book, something hit me immediately because I was like, oh, that is actually us. You talk about this thing between like coincidence and provenance. Yes.

That is my life with you. I know. Literally. So backstory on How Me and Bianca met. We randomly met in DC one time. We were in the same taxi. It was like super funny. were in the same taxi. It was like super funny, like for the same event, but it was weird.

And then we met again, we went to Israel together. We've been to prison together. But one of the funniest moments. Should we clarify that we've been to prison because we sound like gangsters. Oh, yeah, okay, hold on. We actually went to go preach the gospel in prison. And say, Claire, please tell us how stoked. Yes. Okay, that was really good. You caught that. No, good, good. Say, Claire, please. To House out. Yes.

OK, that was really good. You caught that. No, it was the best time. One of my favorite trips I've ever taken, honestly, just so moved by that. But one of my funniest moments of view was I don't even know if you remember this. I ran into you in Dallas for five minutes.

And in this five minutes that I saw it, you totally don't remember it. So you said, hey, girl, how you doing? Hey, remember, no ringy, no dingy. Yes! Oh my gosh, yes, I did. Clearly, I have no muzzle. I have no filter.

And that might be on the, who knows what's gonna come out in this podcast right now. I know, I had to start with that because I need a people to understand just the type of person that you are because you give so much good advice and this your new book How to have your life not suck is full of good advice and you just lay on the table

You say it how it is, but you say it's so funny But you know just stay in true to the podcast I know you give a lot of advice, but what is the best piece of advice that you've ever been given? The best piece of advice I would, it had to come from my dad. From the age of probably five, my earliest memory of my dad is him saying, if you are not dead, then God is not done. Well.

And it just ingrained this idea of redemption. My background is probably not like most people. And so my dad just kind of instilled, he's an immigrant to the country and he instilled this really great value of like If God has not redeemed a situation Don't give up even when it looks so dark even when it looks like it's so hopeless even when all hope is lost You just don't know what God can do. That's so good

I am so glad you said that because I almost wanted to say that quote in this podcast But it was the last sentence of your books I was like I don't give was the last sentence of your book. So I was like, I don't want to give away the last part of her book. Well, actually, you know what? I wish that, like, if I could write the preface over again to the book, here's the sad statistic. Most people, like 78% of people never finish a book.

So we'll start a book. And I just want people to know, but just read the last chapter. So if there's one chapter, they read, just read that last chapter because it's really this idea of like you never know how the decisions You make today affect your tomorrow so good. I'm so glad you said that that's so true though But the last part of the book normally is like the heart of the book because it's where you're wanting to get to but that's

So good. I think that's good to speak to a lot of people because like I think if anything right now a lot of people need Hope and they need that idea of a tomorrow And I love that in your book because you talk about some really serious stuff. Like you literally talk about depression, you talk about grief, you talk about all this stuff, but you also talk about some really fun stuff like dating and like self care and all these things. So I kind of want to go through some of the things, but first just kind of touch on, you chose to write the whole book basically on Ruth.

And one of the funniest parts is that the beginning, you chose to write the whole book basically on Ruth. And one of the funniest parts is at the beginning, you're like, Ruth is my Bible BFF. Oh, she told me. So the other about you is like, I think I know the Bible stories, but like after talking to you, like I actually know the characters of every Bible story and their background. And so I just kind of want you to talk about just why you chose Ruth and how you like fell in love with reading the ball with the way that you do.

Okay, so this is, I've never been asked this question. So I love that we get to open up with this. Here's the thing, I wish that this was a book I had when I was 25 because 10 years ago, 11 years ago now, I was going through what I termed as a quarter life crisis. My mom was diagnosed with two forms of brain cancer. I was dating this guy for three years who I thought I was gonna marry. I affectionate refer to him as Satan. And I'm not salty, I'm not salty.

And I just, I couldn't find a job. I was jobless, I had to move back home. Everything in life felt like it was up in flames. And the one thing that I wanted was the one thing that I was afraid of, which is at hallmark of millennials, it's community. You wanna be vulnerable, but you don't know who to be vulnerable with and you shut down the internalized.

And so I wish that I would have had a mentor, but I didn't know who to ask, and I didn't know what that looked like, and it just all felt weird because mentorship within a Christian realm felt like discipleship, and I was like, way too much commitment. I can't do that, it's just too much for my life. I don't wanna do that.

And I didn't want someone like snooping and prying in my life. And so I turned to the Bible as my mentors. And that was not intentional. It's not like I was like, I'm like, exageratically, turn the book of Ruth. It was, I heard someone say that in ancient Hebrew, there is no term for tragedy because the ancient Hebrews

believe that if God had not redeemed a situation, then God was not done. Wow. And I am like a word nerd, so I was like, well, back there were scripture. And then someone told me to read the book of Ruth. And so I read the book of Ruth. And I came down to Ruth for a year.

Wow. And here is this woman who was an immigrant. She lost home. She lost hope. She lost husband. She was barren. She was infertile. And her life had to get started all over again.

And I felt like in that season, that was me. And I looked at Mama Naomi as kind of like a mentor. And I looked at Ruth as like my BFF. And between these two women, this intergenerational relationship, I was like, oh my gosh, they talk about so many things. And so I don't feel like the book is like usually most successful books are like one topic and they open it up and they just talk about that one thing. This is kind of like a playbook.

It is. It's in three sections because those are the three sections that matter most to me on friendships and relationships, adulting and and growing up, and faith and spirituality. And in the book of Ruth, I didn't tell people, oh, this book is on Ruth, because I don't think most people would buy it. But like, it's rooted in biblical principles. So true. That's true.

It's so cool, because you really do that. I love you said, I'm going to be a tour guide to how to have your life. And that really is what you do. You guide us through this whole thing and you talk about everything. And I think what's cool about when you hear, you talk about Ruth as opposed to other people. You hear Ruth and you're right. You're like, okay, I know this story.

Do I need to read it? No, this is a whole new thing. This is like actually so practical. You talk about everything. Like I'm 22, I needed to read every single thing in this book. The dating advice was so good. I was like sending pictures to Christian on the page.

It's like, hey, but what? Okay. You know, just a little tip here and there. And you also give free therapy, hello. Right? Thank a sister. For what? Why did you want to do that?

Okay, so I grew up in a home where therapy or counseling was kind of stigmatized and it was for that person or those people. And it wasn't something that I thought I ever needed. It wasn't until I hit 30 that I realized, oh my goodness, I did meet with a counselor. I didn't realize I had experienced trauma, being raised in the hood, being raised poor, being raised by immigrants. It's totally different. And so I started seeing the huge value of counseling in therapy and I realized a couple things. One, most people don't do it because they don't understand it.

Most people don't do it because it's expensive and most people don't know who to go to. Or like why there's a need. And so I just wanted to demystify that. And so there's certain topics in the book like the chapter on depression and anxiety. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death. The chapter on grief and death.

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conversations on how to make friends, but we're not having conversations on how to end friendships as well. So true. And so I, without burning a bridge, or being ugly, you know, you don't want to be ugly. And so I have a friend, her name is Dr. Deb Gorton, she's a clinical psychologist, the chief clinical psychologist and professor at the Bible. We just kind of were talking about it, and I said, I wish that I would have at the age of 25 being able to meet the counselor. And I'm like, wait a minute,

why don't you just contribute to my book. So cool. So free therapy. So helpful. I was like, you're right, because a lot of times like in the 20s, you're like, do I really need it? Is it bad if I go whatever? But everybody needs a little therapy, okay? And he'll, because a lot of times like in the 20s, you're like, do I really need it? Is it bad if I go whatever?

But everybody needs a little therapy. Okay, and he'll never hurt nobody. When you read this book, you're like, okay, I need it. That is so good. But okay, back to the story of Ruth and just how you tell it. And even like whenever I ask you that question, when you get so excited about Ruth, like, I'm like, yeah, I want to do that. Like when so he asked me about like Paul, I'm gonna be like, oh my gosh, I love Paul. Let me say, I'm like, yeah, I wanna do that. Like, when somebody asks me about like,

Paul wouldn't be like, oh my gosh, I love Paul. Let me say, I love sex with Paul. Like, it's so awesome how you do that. And I know another part of your background is literally storytelling for A21. I'm just so cool if you don't know the about her. So, huge part of her story too, but where did you fall in love with telling stories?

You are so full of great questions. Did you, Robertson? Why thank you. I'm so upset. And you know what? Why don't you show up to start? You know what? I didn't know how to read or write or spell at the age of 12. And that is such a tender spot for me

because I didn't ever want to be perceived as dumb or stupid. And I don't think that I was. It just things are slow to click for me. And I think that's actually still true. Like all aspects of my life. But at 12 years old, I was being made fun of by a kid that charts, by kids in the community, kids on my street. And I remember having this one conversation with God at the age of 12, I went to the backyard and I just laid on the grass and I was so sad. And I looked up at

the sky and they said, God, if you're real, if you give me words, I'll give you my voice. Wow. And from that moment, I mean, here's the thing. I don't want to sound like an after-school special or like everything works out, but in this really insane moment within a six-month span, I went from not being able to string together sentences to finishing novels in a day. My mom would take me to the library

and my sister and I would pick out novels. Like I would get five to seven novels a week. Wow. And just began devouring them. So my love for storytelling, I love for narrative happened at that time because I God gave me like the key to learn. Wow. And the second thing is, is I'm Puerto Rican.

So I go to my grandma's house and watch soap operas with her, but they're called novellas and they're very, very dramatic. So Spanish soap operas are like next level crazy and that's not really the Bible. So I think that I think that I like love her storytelling happen. So Spanish soap operas are like next level crazy and that's not really the Bible. So I think that's awesome. I think they're like, I love our storytelling happened because of watching soap operas. That's amazing.

Hey, God can use it. Right, I mean, redeem it. That's awesome. I see so much of myself in you and that's what I think for me as a far away mentor, you're such a mentor to me because I was the same way. Reading was such a struggle

and I would have never thought that God would have used me in such a way that I would have to read so much. But it shifted when it wasn't like, oh, I have to read. It's like, I want to read because I'm so captivated by these stories and I want to learn. And then I also love to tell stories. And so it's just, I learned so much from you and that.

But I love that you kind of told that hard part of your story. It's like, okay, I was getting made fun. I was getting bullied and all this stuff. And something you're talking about in the book is how to be a strong woman. And I think that in our world right now and in our day, there's a lot of talk about being a strong woman, but what does it really look like to be a strong woman who's a Christian woman,

but have this internal strength? So what does that kind of look like for you? I know you write about it in the book, but just like off the top. Yeah. So one story that I didn't tell, I didn't make the book, but I kind of started with this, as I was on a panel and I saw a young, beautiful blonde, 20-something girl with a great sense of assertiveness and confidence, well-spoken and articulate. And she asked the panel a question, what do you do when you're labeled a strong woman? And the way that she phrased the question,

I realized that it was understood as a negative thing. And no one on the panel, I'm sitting with a bunch of strong women and no one said anything. And it was grieved because clearly, we're on the panel and God has given us these leadership gifts. And yet we haven't articulated or put language,

no culture around the beauty of being a strong woman. And all throughout scripture, the women that are listed there are strong women. And so the first thing I identified was somehow we've associated and strong together, strong and woman as being something negative. Yeah. So let's take that back. Let's redeem that word and strengthen something that's beautiful, strengthen something that's God given.

And the nomenclature has associated these two words as being absolutely negative, but let's redefine that and like strength being like a God-given confidence, like a Hebrew swag. Like a chosen children of God were grafted into the family of God. We are Jewish by association and by adoption.

And for every good Jew out there, you're blessed, highly favored. But real kaba-baba shem, out of nine my Jewish brothers and sisters. I think that we can redefine strong women. And so like, let's take this back to BC days when people were labeled Christians, it was actually a negative term.

It was a mocking term. It was like little Christ. You're just trying to emulate this man named Christ. Wow. And so, but we as Christians, we're that as a badge of honor, we hang crosses on our neck. Let's redefine strong women and let strong women

be kind, a deseradial and confident and strong. Yeah. And we get to redefine what that means. That is awesome. Come on, trailblazer. Like for me, I honestly asked that because I wanted to hear it. I feel like I struggle with that sometimes, finding the language for that and the confidence in that.

Just because of how you grow up, what you learn, what you hear, and you're like, oh, is this right? I don't know. And so for you, as a Christian mentor, strong woman who's crushing it, it's just awesome to hear you say something like that and super encouraging. And something you talk about that, this literally made me laugh out loud. It's in the self-care section. And you say, shower-shave sparkle.

Girl. Girl. Can we have a conversation, please? That was a word. Okay. out. It's in the self-care section and you say shower shave sparkle girl. Girl, can we have a conversation please? That was a word. I'm like, let you take it away. Well, here's the thing. So that was in the dating and relationships conversation. I think why it's important to me is like I'm having conversations with girls and they're like, I just, you know, I don't have a day. I can't get a guy. But like, they're on like day 15 of dry shampoo. And it's And we have to stop that. That's true. So many of the help us to strap.

And if you haven't floss since 1999, you might have halitosis from hell. There's this great movement. It actually started as a marketing campaign for Duff, which I really appreciate. It was a couple of years ago, if you remember women of all colors, shapes, and sizes, and we're owning who we are.

And it's been this positive message, which I think has been really great. But my fear in that there's always a negative backswing. And the pendulum has swing, I think, in the other way of saying, well, I'm just gonna do me. Whether it's the college life, whether it's the young mom life, whether it's us single, I don't care life, or just the lazy life, we've kind of said,

well, this is who I am. And we stopped caring about working out. We stopped caring about hygiene. We stopped caring about what's going in our mouth. We stopped caring about what's going out of our mouth. And I think that there is a sense of onus and responsibility. And a little bit of backstory that this is not in the book, but Ruth was a widow. And in Jewish culture, if you're a widow, you would wear the same clothes as like an act

of mourning. And so something a lot didn't believe wear the same clothes as like an act of mourning. And so something a lot didn't believe that she's probably still in her mourning rags. So when Naomi says, in Ruth chapter three, verse three, she says, well, this is my version. She's like, oh, I'm very, very, very, very, oh, you're very, y'all way, what are we gonna do, Ruthie?

You gotta have Boa as to Bo you up, darling, come on. So she really did say shower, change your clothes and put on perfume. Well. And so I think that sometimes we need to give women permission again, it's okay to feel beautiful. Yeah. Like go change your clothes, go be clean, put on some perfume, give yourself permission to be beautiful.

Yeah. And so good. And so care for yourself. I loved it. You hit so many like popular things right now in a godly, truthful way, and it was awesome and hilarious. And so speaking of hilarious, now this might put you on the spot, all right?

I love it. I'm ready. You said some really funny dating pickup lines in this book. Oh, sister. And I just wanted you to give us some of your best. See, Boaz didn't walk into the field. And go up to Ruth and say, are you Jericho? If I walk around you seven times, will you fall for me?

But here's the thing. Here's the thing. That's a real Christian pickup line. One that I, for real. One that I, one that I, one was told to my best friend. Oh my gosh. I thought this is, you've got to be kidding me. Okay, so one time I was working behind a booth,

I was selling some books and it was at a predominantly men, actually it was men's conference. And this one guy came up to me and he was trying to be funny and it was just fell so flat. He's just like, I have 30 camels that I'd like to give you. What? Stop it. He was referring to Isaac and Rebecca.

Oh my God. I literally was like, this is not gonna be cool, man. This is not even cool. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, this is like, this is not even cool, man. This is not even cool. Oh my gosh. Oh, yeah. You said it. You're like, we don't have time to be weird, y'all. We don't have time to be weird.

Let's just be normal. Thank you. That is so good. I've heard you say some great, like, classic one liners, but I love that you're like, this is the one that works. This is the ones that don't. Okay. I want to give people conversation and also in regards to Christian dating,

like Christian dating is weird if you're weird. Yeah, that's too weird. And if you don't like a guy, it's okay to tell them and don't be hurt and get all of the feelings like Drake, if they don't like you. Here's the thing, as Christians, we should be on the forefront of healthy relationships. And we are back footing, we have crazy memes.

And we need to change the narrative. So we could be cool if we are cool with other people. So, Jesus set the bar for us. Like, don't be weird, man. That's, and I say this as a homeschool kid. Okay, recovery, legalistic homeschool kid. Hello, redemption, right? And then, girl, you brought that back.

Yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, you gave some awesome dating advice and just for people listening, I know R.A. It's like, she talks about D.T.R. defining the relationship. And I just want to throw it out because I know a lot of people struggle with that. If you struggle with that, like read the book.

If you struggle with like, Hey, I don't know if I'm doing this right, I don't really know how to react in this situation. She probably covered it. She covers a lot of things. The other thing I liked about when you talked about dating Hey, I don't know if I'm doing this right. I don't really know how to react in this situation. She probably covered it. She covers a lot of things. The other thing I liked about when you talked about dating, you talked about self-care, you talked about these things

that were for us, but you also talked about how to be a friend to the person who's walking that. And I thought that was so important, because I think a lot of times it's really hard to be the friend in the situation, but you really walk us through that. And I was just wondering, like, did you have a friend in your season of single or dating that was like,

speaking true to you that you were like, oh, shoot. Okay, so it was not even the friend. It was my best friend and my twin sister. So our lives are very different. She met her now husband in high school. They did it for six years before they got married. She got married at 24 and our lives are so different. And here I am. Like it's kind of cool to be like, I'm waiting for the one when you're at

16. And then it's admirable to be like, I'm just going to say no to sex or like elicit relationships at 20. And then it's kind of interesting at 22. And then it's full and weird at 25 to tell people like, I'm not having sex and I'm waiting for my husband. And I'm not going to date bozos and I'm not gonna give myself away. And then it's full on like, you're in a completely different zone when you hit like 27, 28, 29, 30. People just start thinking, like,

well, maybe it's you, maybe you smell. And it was my sister who said, you need to stay true to your convictions, but you also need to be able to put yourself out there. And I was like, again, I say I'm recovering legalist. I was like, if God can part the Red Sea, God can bring my husband to me. And she's just like, like, what's your front door? And I said, yeah, she's like, well, you better fall in love with the UPS guy

because no one else can come into front door. She is savage. That is savage. And so I think it was just the way in reality. And so she would like gently nudge me and gently push me, like, hey, put yourself out there. Yeah. Who are you meeting?

And she's like, everyone from church, coming to my dad's church. She's like, everyone from church just wants to date dad. Everyone from the gym is in the head. And everyone from graduate school is like married or gay. So you have no options here, Yaka. You have to think of something different. And it was Jasmine that encouraged me to go on e-harmony.

And she actually paid for me to go on e-harmony. And that's where I met my husband. Well, a good friend, that is awesome. And so now I want to be that good friend. I know, I want to be that good friend too. And it's okay to be a savage to your good friend. Yes, who have your future here. That is love.

That's so good. Okay, as it closed, I just wanted to, since we asked you best piece of advice, I just wanted to pull out to the I received from the book that I just thought were two just great sentences. One of them was people will always treat us in ways we allow ourselves to be treated. That was just such a good word. I just think a lot of people need to hear that because you kind of walk through a lot of

different stories of different people and what you saw in them and what it taught you and how it taught you to teach them to walk the right path. And she just simply said, people will only treat us in ways that we allow ourselves to be treated. And I just thought that was so good. I wanted to just quote that. And then the other one, that was such a good sentence. And piece of advice, she said, don't waste this season of your life. Worried about what's to come. I thought that was awesome. Because I think a lot of people sit in the season. And I've done this so many times and we just are so anxious about what's to come and a lot of times it doesn't even come or we miss

the season that we're in waiting for it to come and you telling your story throughout the book increases my faith. I know it creates so many people's faith. Wow, my guy can do that. If I just trust him, if I just wait for him. And so I just want to pull out those two things that you wrote. And the last question I'll ask you since you wrote, how to have your life, not suck. What does it look like for you when you are thriving?

Mm, what a great question. I think for me, a big value is like this, harmony between body, soul, and spirit. I've wrestled with my weight my entire life. I was obese as a kid, and I felt like I managed it, and then I had some health complications, and I felt like I managed it and then I had some health complications and I felt like last six years, I can't lose weight. And so I think thriving for me is in this season,

I'm not where I want to be. I'm not even medically where I should be on the scale, but I'm holding onto this concept of like, as long as my mind, my heart, my body, my soul know that I am giving it 100%. Wow. I'm trying so well. I'm not the Christian I want to be, but as long as my body, my heart, my soul know that

I am trying. Yeah. I am not the healthiest person emotionally like I'm Puerto Rican in Mexican. I'm a seven on any gram. I'm crazy. I can't get my life together. But as long as my body, my heart and my mind are coming together, I feel like I'm committed to that triune health. It's awesome.

To be the best thriving person that God has called me to me. That is awesome. I'm encouraged to that. Well, I know everybody out there is probably like, whoa, I need to listen to that again, because that was so good. Please listen to it again and go get Bianca's book, How to Have Your Life, Not Sok. It's so good. She's just a sister and a friend to everyone who needs one.

And so anyways, thank you Bianca. I love you, Sadie Robertson. Thank you so much for being so kind and sharing your voice with the world. The person you are online is the more memorable. Aw, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. All right, all right. All right. So this season has been super fun as you know I've had the in the house of mom I've had the in the house of Christmas Christmas I've been calling Christian Christmas for like a week Christmas is a good thing that's true Christ is in half of both that's right because you can call it a lot worse thing, that's true. Christ is in half of both. That's right, that's true. You can't even call it a lot worse, so hey.

That's true. Well, I'm in the in that house, but Christian, but now that it's Christmas and we're all in the house together, I figured I'd have K, Suag, A, K, A, my mother, and Christian all together because we in that house, so welcome you to. Hey, hey. All right, so I'm gonna ask him good and bad advice.

And I think it's gonna be interesting to have two people because we might get two different opinions. So we'll just see, as you know, every time we go to this section, we get all of y'all's wonderful responses on Instagram. And you guys had some pretty hilarious ones. So we'll see which ones we paid today, because y'all sent in a lot.

But how's this? Okay, good or bad advice, you you two eat all the Christmas cookies. Oh, I would say that's bad. Christian hasn't been there yet, but he's going to get to be there for Christmas cookie decorating and all of the little cousins lick the knives and oh, that's so true. It's disgusting. It's really pretty gross. So I would say do not eat the Christmas cookies because you never know if they've been licked already That's good advice I would say I would say paste yourselves and just keep in mind. What have you ever paced yourself? See it's a strategy

You gotta just consciously think how many cookies you're eating Time that you're eating them. Okay. I'm going on this too. I don't think you should eat probably all the Christmas cookies, especially if you're at our house because we make a lot of Christmas cookies. But I will say like it's Christmas, like, eat what you want to eat. Like, this is not time to die it, you know, like New Year's is next week. That is true. My reasoning had nothing to do with diet. It only had to do with germs, but I would say definitely eat all the Christmas desserts because it's Christmas, we need to celebrate. Yeah, growing up, I always thought that around Thanksgiving

or Christmas, the food would not count against you. That's true. It doesn't even count. It's like negative. Okay, let's see. I actually am gonna weigh on this. I think this is a great thing. Don't let the busyness steal your joy and peace in this season. That is really good advice because it is easy for

that to happen because there is so much happening and you feel, I don't know, I think especially as moms, like you feel this obligation to make it all perfect for your kids and your family and it can overwhelm you. So I think you definitely need to go in with like a strategy of like, look, what is really important let's keep that at the forefront and not let those little details overwhelm you. That's so good. Kris said, oh, Kris is like, I don't know if I can nail this. Kris said, it has been blessed by Santa, yet you know, dot dot dot.

I think that was a good advice mom. All right, here's I think a simple talk politics. Talk politics at Christmas. Dear Jesus. Bad advice. Bad. Yeah, you should probably just let that one go at Christmas. Talk Santa.

Talk Santa. Don't talk politics. There you go. How about talk Jesus? Oh, we can just go, Jesus, land. No, look for real. Oh, we just got Jesus learned. No, but for real, for all of you, Jesus is the reason for this season.

There's a reason why it's Christmas, Christmas, hello. No, for real. If you haven't already this Christmas season, go read the beginning of the gospel. Let's read about Jesus' birth and just remind yourself why we do celebrate this amazing season Santa's awesome, but Santa got nothing on Jesus because Jesus is the giver of life and all good things Only just take a moment to preach all right. This would be the last one

Because today is Christmas when this podcast will go out. So we do have to stop and say Merry Christmas We're just gonna get carried away don't get about advice Merry Christmas to everybody if you. Merry Christmas. Before we just get carried away, don't get in bad advice. Merry Christmas to everybody who's listening to this podcast on Christmas. That just makes me so happy. All right, this is a controversial topic. Home art movies are the best. Mm. I feel like I should not say this

because people are not gonna like me but I don't really like your daughter. It was in a home art movie. I love Jers. I thought Jers was awesome. And, but it wasn't a Christmas one. It's not that, I don't know, I just have never been into them.

I need to try them again. I really do, because I like feel the excitement with everybody, like, oh, Christmas home art movies are coming back, but I just, you know, have never really gotten into them. But maybe next year I will. This Hallmark movies, the same thing as ABC's 25 days of Christmas?

No. No. Then I can't. Christian, I didn't even know about Hallmark movies. I would just tell you that this house is not necessarily really into Hallmark movies. Hallmark ever. We love Candice Cameron. Yes. And I really feel like I should watch, we love Candice Cameron. Yes.

And I really feel like I should watch them to support her and I support her and I'll cheer her on. I just, home movies are the best at Christmas time though because this is a beautiful thing but home movies. It's just always good. And you always know exactly what's going to happen.

And you can just sit down with popcorn and candy and your Christmas cookies and watch it and know you are going to end on a high note That is true. I recommend them. I just don't watch them, but I totally recommend them. So I recommend them too That's hilarious. Okay, so we might be kind of hating on homework movies, but what's your favorite Christmas movie? The polar Express. Oh, that's a good choice the polar express. Oh, that's a good choice. Mads elf. Mine too.

And I just took Christian Mine's elf and he's like, classic. Everybody's favorite is elf. Everybody's favorite is elf. And I distinct polar express when he have to hear the jingle to believe. I think I want to see it like once. Yeah, I mean, I've seen it, but like, I don't remember the details of it. So we need to watch it again. Well, we're watching it this season.

Okay, we're watching it this season. Okay. We'll watch Elle of Employers' Rise. The other two favorite of mine are a Christmas story and it's a wonderful life, because they're just classes. I did watch it on the plane that it was really good. You should watch that one too. All right, last question. What did you get me for graces?

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I hope you guys have a very Merry Christmas from our family to your family. Happy holidays. We just hope that you guys get what you want when we're in that, give with a full heart and love the people around you. And I reminded of what this is all about and hopefully this will just bring you straight back to the heart of Jesus. It's been such a fun year

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