WHOA That's Good Podcast - I Still Believe

Episode Date: April 15, 2020

Sadie welcomes GRAMMY®-nominated singer and songwriter Jeremy Camp and his wife, Adrienne Camp, to the podcast. They found love after Jeremy lost his first wife when he was just 23 years old, as seen in the hit film, I Still Believe. Listen as they give an honest look into who they are and what their marriage is like as they try to follow God’s will in often unusual circumstances.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What a fail! I'm so excited for this episode of Whoa Dad's Go! Because we got some great people as always. But these two I know are gonna give so much great advice. So welcome to the podcast Jeremy and Adi Camp! Thank you. That would be insane. We're destined to be friends. I know. Exactly. Well, I'm so excited to have you on the podcast. Really the last time I saw you, I got whooped and ping pong by Jeremy. So that's stuck, but this is going to be way more redeeming. I think I've seen you all say it at different things at Winter Jam, which we always say by Jeremy, so that's stuck, but this is gonna be way more redeeming. I think I've seen Nelson at different things at Winner Jam,

which we always say Winner Jam brings everyone together. Does it not? Oh, it really does. It does. Even when I just eat, say to you, ping pong, it's so brought us together. It still brings you together. It's like most of my friends somehow connect back to Winner Jam.

So that's how I'm able to keep in my mind. So funny. Really? Yeah, no, it's so funny. Like, because I lived in Nashville for three years. And like, out of my friend group, like my closest friends, bridesmaids in my wedding, most of us met through winter jam somehow. I sure that's amazing. So weird. So shout out to Eddie Carzwell and the winter jam people. I want to ask you all the question we ask everybody and I'm really looking forward to hearing

some of y'all's advice. But what is the best piece of advice that you two have ever been given? Well, on a funny note, I'll say this, a happy wife is a happy life. Yes. So that's the way. But this is on a real practical level. My dad says something to me that has stuck with me until this day and will always do with me. He said, don't just do the work of the Lord and forget about the Lord of the work. And you know what he's saying is we get so busy sometimes doing you know stuff for the Lord but our relationship with him can suffer.

And he's like, don't get so busy. And so I think that's, that to me is one of the best advice I've ever got. That's so good. Yeah, I need to hear that. It's so true. It's like, you get so busy and it's like God's in everything, but then it's like, no, but also take some time. You're like just focusing who God is. Like, man, I need to hear that. It's so good. No, it's something that I continue to abide by today because all of us were so busy doing things. And God's just like, I don't want to lose my first love. And Revelation is talking about the church that looks great on the outside,

but their relationship they lost their first love. I don't want to do that. So. That's so good. Well, so good. Eddie, what about you? Yeah, I think for me, I feel like I've received so much good advice, especially

from my mom with regards to parenting. And one of the things she once told me was it's not about the hazy modification, it's about your child's heart. And so it's not about just grooming these perfectly looking children that losing their hearts in the process. Well, that's so good. And I think that that really helps me all along the way in parenting, like in every different season, through toddler stages and baby stages. And now obviously we've got two teenagers in the house.

And just remembering, it's totally about connecting with their heart. Right. We're the thing with our kids and even with each other that we ask each other. We don't just say, hey, how are you doing? We go, how is your heart? Because it really kind of makes you stop and think. I love it. You're in a man makes you kind of stop and go, wait, wait, how am I really doing? Not just like how

you're doing, you know, and that's so key. Yeah, because then you'll just say, good, yeah. Oh, easy. That is so good. Yeah, so crazy. So that last night, Christian, I were talking it, you know, I mean, once you get married, you have like all these random talks about a family one day. And Christian was like, what's something that like you love that your parents did and how they parent it. And I was like, I love how I always knew I could go to them and like actually talk to them about what I was going through. And I feel like a lot of kids like fear going to their parents because like they're going

to get in trouble or they're going to get like. Or they just like don't have that outlet for them to just really listen and like yes, my parents just applied back the same time my parents like we're so understanding and with that like understanding and the wisdom they'd speak into me like they were the people I wanted to go to. Yeah, exactly. And that created that heart connection for me.

And it made me like a lot better over a person because I was able to receive wisdom from my parents and going off and learning it from friends or school because I trusted them. And that they were really gonna love me through it. And so I love that. I love that heart connection. That's so great.

I want to talk to you all about a lot of stuff because you all put out so much good stuff. But one, I have to say, the movie I still believe it is amazing. Like absolutely amazing. Of course, Christian, I am crying watching it. It's just such a powerful story and I just feel like God. I mean, it literally is like anointed like you feel the presence of the Lord. There's so much richness in it. I was taking so many notes, but there was like anointed, like, and filled the presence of the Lord. There's so much richness in it. I was taking so many notes, but there was this part

at the end of the movie that I actually want to talk about because I think even right now with what the world's going through, obviously, like we're in a global pandemic, it's kind of a crazy time. And the father and the movie at the very end said these three things that I think relate to what we're all going through and want to touch on it. So your character in the movie, I guess you're me after your wife had passed away. He said, what am I supposed to do with that? Yeah. My love, your dad touched on three

things really. He touched on disappointment and how like you can be disappointed in different things that happen in your life. And he touched on dreams, big dreams that don't work out, that don't come to be. And he talks about not understanding what's going on. Yes. And I feel like right now in the world, we're all facing disappointment. And we're facing big dreams being canceled and not understanding why. And I just wanted to like kind of ask as a bias on going through hard things like that. And having face disappointments,

having face streams, not working out and not understanding why God does certain things. How have y'all applied your faith into those moments and like what have you learned from God in the midst of it? I love how he said, my life is not full despite my disappointments. It's, you know, well because of them. Yeah, that was so good. And it's, I think, such a moment, because my dad is, it's, you know, well, because of them. Yeah, that was so good.

And it's, I think, such a moment, because my dad is, he's like that. He's the one that said, don't do the work of the Lord, if you're gonna give up the Lord of the Word. You know what I mean? Like, it's that kind of one-liner thing. Such good advice. That are so good.

And I think for me, you know, you have to understand, this is one thing that I've realized and I walk with the Lord, is Jesus never promised that we wouldn't go through trials and tribulations. And John 1633, he says, you know, I say these things to you that you will have peace. In this world, you will face trials in many kinds. And so there should be this understanding like, Hey, don't be caught off guard. We live in a fallen world.

And in a fallen world, you're going to have hardships, you know, because this is not our home. This is a temporary dwelling place. It goes, but take heart, take heart because I've overcome the world. And so I've learned that part of life and part of what we deal with here living on this earth is suffering. And suffering is an actually a necessary part. No one likes to hear this, but suffering is a necessary part of growth. You got to think about the examples in the Bible,

I'll give you the gold being refined through fire, so it's purified for the potter shaping the clay, and I'm sure it hurts really bad. If the clay could talk, the clay I would say that you're hurting me, you're pushing me this way, and pushing me that way, you're tearing off pieces. But what the potter's doing, what God's doing is creating this beautiful masterpiece.

And suffering was why we have salvation. Like think about Jesus on the cross. If there wasn't suffering, it wasn't that best. And we wouldn't have the forgiveness of our sins. So it was a necessary part of our salvation. Yeah, so true. But then there was resurrection. And that's the one thing that I'm giving all these like

hard things, but there's always the in-resolve is beautiful, gold is purified and it's beautiful. The clay had the pottery that's made is beautiful and then the Christ resurrected. There's a resurrection at the end of this death and I believe that God is going to resurrect a lot of people in their relationships with him and the Mrs. is suffering. That's so good man. I like, does anybody want to do an alter call right now? I'm like during your call or in a response? No, seriously, it's so good. I mean, you just wrapped up the beautiful aspect of suffering.

So, so well, I mean, I feel like a lot of people might need to rewind that and listen to that again. Yeah. I love in the movie. It says suffering doesn't destroy faith. It refines it. And that's really what you just touched on it. It refines our faith. And there's so much in the Bible. It says suffering doesn't destroy faith it refines it and that's really what you just touched on it It refines our faith and there's so much in the Bible about how we're gonna go through it

But we still seem so caught off by it right But y'all just posted this YouTube video. I watched it like three times in the song is like going in the head over and over again But y'all wrote a song whatever may come yes First of all y'all wrote a song, whatever may come. Yes. And first of all, y'all sound amazing together. Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. If me and Christian could sing like that, we'd never stop singing.

Y'all were the right people to have the voices. Y'all sound amazing, but I love the message. I just want to ask a question about like writing song stuff. Do y'all just sit down in these moments and like kind of collaborate together? Is that just something y'all love to do or power y'all's marriage? I think I'll say a lot of, and kind of collaborate together. Is that just something y'all love to do or power your y'all's marriage? I think us a lot of we like to sing together. A friend of ours asked us to do some songs together and send a link to them so they can play for their

worship service this Sunday. And we're like absolutely and I remember as we were seeing this together just us in a room just pushing record and it wasn't even live and we just started singing in the Holy Spirit I felt felt so powerful just with us singing together so it definitely is something where I feel like when we sing together there's I feel like I always tell people this I like it when my wife sings with me and when she's with me because there's a little bit more of a dose of a Holy Spirit. I love it. I don't know about that babe. A little more 19 on that I feel like, but yeah, I mean with that song in particular, I literally woke up and I was really down because you work so hard blood sweat and tears for two years to do this movie and then it comes out and it was the number one movie on Friday

night in all America, which was like, whoa, what's happening here? And things were really taking off. That's great. And all of a sudden, you find out that they're closing down theaters. So I really was just like, it was a very difficult kind of transition and expectation that got kind of slammed. And I kind of had a repent. And I woke up and just said, okay, God, I'm going to run to you

because you're the only source that everything's I need. And so that song is birthed out of that. And I still, Adrian, I said, hey, do you wanna just sing this with me? And we'll just kind of encourage people. Because right now there's a lot going on. And literally God has used that song. We posted our Facebook and it reached like 10 million people

in like a week's time. And we were like, wait, what in the world was that? Because we didn't try. We weren't trying to like market a song. It was just God breathed this song, and we just put it out there, and God's been using it. And so we're kind of like, well,

maybe she recorded that guest. And then I'm like, you know what I care? Is it is recorded? Yes. It's like, it is recorded. That is so cool. Like, you know what I've seen that so many times with God? It's the ones that I don't try at all.

Totally. And then I'm just like, oh, I just feel like the Lord wants me to do this. And I just put it out real fast. And like, I like put my phone down. I don't even look. And then I'll look back and it's like a million people and you're like, what? But I like, I read this verse in Psalms and it talks about if you're doing all these things and it's not done on the Lord, then it's like done in vain.

But it talks about how like he gives peace to the ones that just rest and let him do the work. I can't say it exactly right, because it haven't studied that verse. I just read it. And it's so beautiful. Because it's true. It's like the times that I work really hard and I get anxious.

And I do all these things. I don't sleep at night. That's the times that it's just my own work. And I'm striving in that. And nothing really happens from it. But whenever I'm just resting in the Lord and there's just stuff that comes from the overflow of the spirit, those are the things that reach the world.

Absolutely. Amen. That's the whole purpose of what we're doing in the first place for the people to reach the Lord. And so of course, he'll go after them with those things. And so it's just so cool. I mean, it's so timely. I know that that's such a disappointment with the movie.

You know, the timing of that happening, but also it's like, look, God's already using it. And so many people like need the message that y'all put out right now through this movie. And it's crazy. Like, I know this is a real story. And so first of all, I thank y'all for sharing y'all's real story. And I know there's a lot like vulnerability that goes from that. And a lot of hard things that come from that and just the retelling of the story,

but to see even the impact that made in Christian life, and just how our spirits were like, whoa. This movie isn't just about like their story and what they've gone through, but this actually is really hitting me in my own personal story and where I'm at, because y'all made it so broad. It's like, if you're going through suffering,

if you're going through doubt, if you're going through not understanding, like, I still believe that God is God, and that's the message that we need to hear right now, because that's really the only hope we have right now. And so thank y'all. Y'all's story is all touching so many, including us. Thank you.

I love how you talk about how, like, whenever y'all do it together, there's just something better about it. And I know y'all just wrote a marriage book called called Unison and that's pretty cool because it's kind of what you're talking about like doing stuff together. Yeah. So unpack that a little bit. What's the book about and why don't you want to write it? Yeah, you know, I think we realized that with the movie and everything we knew that in a sense we felt that not the whole world but you know, the world would be watching us and we wanted to give just a snapshot about our life together. We're so passionate about families and about marriages.

And we just wanted to bring something hopeful, but something authentic as well. Because I think oftentimes the enemy tries to make us feel like we're alone in something. And I think especially when you're first married and you have your first argument, you feel like there's something wrong with us. As you get around other people and you kind of open up and you're transparent, you're going, oh, you struggle with that as well. And so we just wanted to give everybody a snapshot about how we deal with life and how the Lord has

gotten us through so many different things. So we talk a little bit about grief, we talk a bit about finances and communication, of course, and conflict. But we really just believe that there's a power and vulnerability. And so, I mean, there's some stories in there that we're really open about our own struggles. And just kind of transparent about some of the things that we've done together. Well, I need to read this book. sharing about some of the things that we've found together. Well, I need to read this book. Something to me, and this has kind of been one of the things I've been sharing a lot, because I think it kind of points to what happens in our marriages that cause issues.

But she said, one time she pulled me aside and goes, how do you want to let you know? I love you. You are the one God has for me. You love my life. All of me starts encouraging me. I want to let you know that I don't need as much as you think I do. And she meant by that, it was what was amazing and freeing it.

It wasn't like she was saying, don't worry, don't do whatever you need to do. You don't have to worry about me. She wasn't saying that. She was saying that Jesus is the one to fulfill all my needs. That's so good. I think we live in a culture where we're trying so hard to have the other person fulfill our needs. So true. And when they don't fulfill our needs, what do we do?

We get upset and we feel like, you know, everything's falling apart because you're not providing what I need for me. And it's just I, I, I. And you know, really it's Christ is, you know, that old saying that everyone says, you complete me. And it's not true. Christ completes us. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Like, we walk alongside, we become one, of course. We walk alongside this life together, but Jesus is literally the only one that can provide every single need that we have. And I think that when we look to each other to fulfill those, that's when all the conflict happens. You know what I mean? It's so true.

It doesn't negate our responsibility either. It doesn't make us go, oh, I don't have to do anything because Jesus is everything. That is not the truth, you know, because I think when you look to Christ automatically through his power and through the Holy Spirit, your marriage is just better anyway, and you start fulfilling needs that they need. Yeah, so true. I mean, Christian and I got married five months ago almost. I'm like, like, I'm married five months ago. Almost. I'm like, we've already lost contact. Thanks so much. So this is like, you know, really a cool thing to be talking about with you all because all that is,

I'm like, yes, yes, yes, even in this short time, like we've already realized those things are so true. Because you start to learn, I mean, there's so much learn we'll learn for the rest of our life, but you learn really fast a lot of those things and a lot of people told you you're gonna learn and your early years of marriage. Totally. AD, I wanna ask you because something that y'all just said, I thought it was really cool

and Christian, I've been talking about this a lot. It's like how you approached Jeremy when you were gonna tell him like something that you felt like really called to tell him but at the same time it was a hard thing to hear, but like you started with the encouragement. And we've been talking about like how do you like disagree or have a different opinion, but also like protect the other person's heart and communicating maybe something hard that you want to share.

And so like what some of your advice on like communicating hard things within a marriage or a relationship or a friendship, when you know, man, this might be kind of direct, but at the same time like I want to respect that person's heart. Well, to be honest, I've learned oftentimes from the states that I've made. So I'm definitely speaking from experience because I've done this the wrong way. But I think one of the things that is so important is the right timing.

Yeah. Sometimes I think when we're actually in the middle of a conflict situation, they are times to sort of press in and hide conversations, but when you're so emotional and you might be feeling angry with one another, you're not really going to have the most productive conversation. So I've really learned to have to take a step back. And honestly, I think sometimes when we've sort of let some things go and let the moment die down, it's like a circling back around conversations seem to be almost productive. And one thing I did try to do I remember very early on when Jeremy and I were together, I would try to encourage him

first and find things that I could say, hey, like you're doing really well in this area and I've really seen this in you. And then then I said, but if I can sort of speak into something, this would be what it is, you know, and kind of like meet in the middle. Yeah, that's important. And I think it's important as well for us to realize that we can't just sit and like look at the other person who needs to change all the time. You know, it's so easy for us to want the change to come from asked classes, right? It's like, oh, it would be so much better if Jeremy changed in the situation that would make it really easy for me.

But I think it just remembering to really ask the question of like, God, what are you trying to show me in this situation? Yeah, that's good. But it isn't always about what he needs to learn. But how can I grow in this? And maybe he is maybe being a jerk one day or whatever it is, but how can we sort of grow as a team together, you know? Yeah, that's so good. But it's more like an asking and not a me versus him or my opinion versus his or even my preferences versus his, you know, just kind of

learning to meet in the middle, I think. Yeah. But I do think it is really important to have those conversations, because too often we sweep things under the rug, and then either like things just really grow cold between you or maybe, you know, unforgiveness and resentment or bitterness will grow in your heart. And if we never have those conversations, we're never going to be able to move past those places. Yeah. And so we're huge advocates of like talk, talk it out, talk it through even if it's hard. And if you need to take a break, take a break, but the commit to figuring out with each other. Yes. That's so good. I love that. Yeah. Christian and I are learning that too. It's like just learning the beauty of like having those conversations because of how much stronger you get and then like staying in those conversations

I'm finishing the conversation and everything Yes, even if it's uncomfortable even it's hard because every time when it's over you're like Manly we're so much stronger like I feel so much more confident in our marriage and our friendship and where we're at and just in what in that the Lord's even speaking That's and we're listening like there's so much that we've learned just as the Holy Spirit being your teacher That's been really, really cool. And when you do that, the reason why you feel stronger and you feel more confident in your marriage is because you're not wondering what the other person is thinking. You actually know.

Yeah. I think when you're kind of wondering if like, okay, is everything okay? Then there's the confidence is gone. And you kind of like, I don't know, you kind of walk in my walking on eggshells or what's happening. But when you know, even if it's the hard thing you had to say, at least you know how they feel. You know what I mean? I think that's so key. So true.

I love that. It's so important as well to not put the expectation on each other to read each other's minds. Right. You know, especially as men and women, we think so differently through things. And we approach life differently. And emotionally, we're made up of a different makeup and so I think it's important it's so unfair if I expect Jeremy to

read my mind in things and so I need to learn to come to him and say hey like this is bothering me or this is what I'm thinking or this is what I'm feeling. Yeah so true. I love it. That's so good. That's such good advice. Anybody who's like engaged about to get married because I know we have a lot of like brides following along. Take that advice because it's a really good advice. This is something that I get asked all the time and a lot of times when I'm getting like a question like consistently through DMs or whatever or we have online subscription called L.O. fam where we actually like read people's questions and try to speak into it. A lot of times when I feel like not very qualified to speak into something they're asking or I'm like, hmm, let me say something, but hang on, the thought's not complete.

If I have something to park as I feel like it would be good to answer, I kind of just shoot it to you also. I want to ask you what y'all think about this because we get this question all the time. People say like, how do I wait for the person that I'm gonna marry? Like it's so hard. Like I get impatient or I settle or I'm dating this guy. I know he's not the one or whatever.

How do I wait for that person? And you know, y'all's story and you kind of hit it at the very end of the movie and it's like, so crazy how y'all met and stuff. How do you find rest and waiting for the person that God's gonna bring to you and waiting on the right time and the right person for it to come? I guess in your own experience, you'll have any advice in that. Yeah, it is hard to wait. We live in such a quick society.

I talk to my kids all the time about their relationship with the Lord and I'm like make sure that you don't think about Jesus as drive-through Jesus. You know, it's like you pull up at the McDonald's drive-through and you order and you get what you want. You know what I mean? And so much about life really is learning character in the waiting. And sometimes I think we idolize relationships so much that it becomes we almost obsess about it and we obsess about finding the right person. And honestly, when Jeremy and I met, neither one of us were actually looking. We both had obviously relationships before. And I just feel like it was almost when I finally had gotten to that place where I had just said, Jesus, I want the season to be you and me. You know, and I really had had like I had totally committed in my heart

So much so that when Jeremy came along and it was sort of like oh my gosh I don't want this one to go. I don't want to let them go But I really I had a time of prayer with the Lord of like Lord But I thought the season was supposed to be just you and me and I just felt like the Lord say I'm he's a gift Like I'm bringing him to you. You know, well, and I promise you I wouldn picked Jeremy. Like, he was totally not my type when I first met him. And same with him. Like, you and not each other's types. That's true. That's so funny. Like, literally, it was, she was the rocker chick and it wasn't like my, you know, my thing at all. And I was kind of like the, I used to play sports and she wanted the very artistic surfer guy. And I, not me and my best.

Awesome. I think sometimes we think we know exactly what we need. Yeah. And we also think we know the timeline. And so it's sort of like we've kind of created this box and we're like, okay, God, when are you going to check it for me? You know what I mean? And God just doesn't work that way.

And I think first and foremost, what we've learned is your relationship with Jesus is the most important thing. And when you're married, you want a strong relationship with Jesus. Your identity has to be found in him. You can't look for your identity to be found in one another, you know? And so focus on your relationship with Lord. It's like seek first the kingdom and all these other bad things will be added, right? Yeah. Yeah. Love it. It's like focus on dealing with your heart with the Lord, being mature as a believer and your

heart with the Lord. And I really do believe that He will bring the right person in the right time. Yeah. Amen. I'm so true. I love it. Y'all, that is so crazy. That sounds exactly like, oh, my story would Christian.

Really? Literally, the day before we met, I was talking to all my friends and I was like, I just feel like I need to just like be alone with the Lord for a while and like, I don't need a date anybody. All this stuff. To the point that they recorded me, say it so that they would hold me to it the next day. I meet Christian and I wasn't even thinking, like I was like, I thought he was so cute.

And I remember telling my friend, just like, delete the video, he's so cute. I was like, shoot. But then I was like, no, like I don't need a date anybody. And so we like just started talking, like not like talking how, you know, it was people are like, oh, talking in the dating. Like we were just like talking on the phone

and like getting to know each other. And I was like, oh, bad thought this was. Like, we were just like talking on the phone and like getting to know each other. And I was like, oh, bad thought this was like, I wasn't supposed to date anybody. And so Christian asked me on a date at the end of July. And I said, yeah, you can take me on a date in September. And he was like, um, okay. And I was like, I just need a time to just be like, wait, God, I thought I really felt like I heard it clearly all this stuff. And I just felt, it was so weird.

I felt so much peace about it. Every time I prayed, I just felt like I wasn't supposed to stop talking to him and getting to know him. And then he ended up being the one. And it was right when I stopped looking in, same thing. I would not, we always say we're a match made of heaven because nobody would have picked us to be together because we're very different.

And like, we had mutual friends. They were like, we never saw that coming. But it was just the right timing and who God had him finally whenever I was like, okay, I'm done searching and idolizing. Like you said, relationships and thinking, this is the way it's supposed to look or supposed to be. That's amazing.

And just like God, you know, have his way. And so that's so cool. That advice is like exactly what I experienced too. That's awesome. That's so good. Well, I think until we find our contentment in Jesus, yeah, if you're trying to find contentment in a relationship, then when you get that relationship, you can realize,

oh, that doesn't fulfill me. Great. Yeah. Don't get to that point, you know, because it's it's Christ. So it's so true. So good. Yeah, I just said it is so the like they lived happily ever after. And it's really it's not true, you know, you've got two imperfect people. Yeah, living in a house together. And it's just it's like you can rub each other so wrong sometimes. And so it's so important that you have a strong

relationship with the Lord. So good. That's so true. Y'all, I'm loving this. All right, as you'll one more just fun question, you know, y'all talked about loving to sing together. What are some other things that you'll love to do together? Because, you know, right now in this time, especially with everybody being quarantined, people are like, what do we do? Like, give us some ideas.

So what have y'all been enjoying and doing together and as a family? One of the things that we love game-wise, settlers of Katana or Katana, whatever you want to call it. You were played that before. It's like the nerd game, but it's amazing. I'm doing it fast. But it's amazing.

And then Major Rummy as well. We'll sit down and just play Major Rummy together. Oh, I love Rummy. We haven't played that yet. Yes. Okay, that is good. So this is why I ask because I'm like secretly I just want to know like what what game should I be playing?

We played corn hole the other day. Oh, yeah, we're spending play that for hours. Yeah, awesome. We've gone on a couple bike ride You love it. Yes, because they allow us to go on bike ride too So we can still do that we still have to stay with people so you know It's a Dory yeah exactly bike ride to you. So we can still do that. We still have to stay with people. So, you know, it's a speed apart. Yeah, exactly. That's awesome. Yeah, we've been playing a lot of, have y'all heard of spicy Uno? No. Spicy Uno? Okay, it is so fun. So it's the like normal Uno cards, but it's like all these added rules. I mean, it is hilarious. Oh, we've played that before. We caught crazy, you know.

Crazy, you know? Okay, yeah, we got this ice-cream. We've had so much fun. I mean, it gets personal, but it is hilarious. It's so funny. I think one of our first fights was playing cards, right? How do you think? It was playing Yuka.

Yeah. It totally was. Yeah, one of our first big fights. That really makes it come out. Doesn't it? I know because the problem is spicy, you know, as you can pick who you skip. And so Christian skips me. It's like, are you serious for real? It's personal, right? Exactly. So funny. Well, during 80 y'all are awesome. Thank you. Again, for sharing your story, sharing your advice and just being a light to the world during this time,

keep writing songs and singing together and just being who you are. It's definitely making impact on so many and I'm so thankful. And also next time I see you all, I hope there's a ping-pong table around. Thanks for having us. It's so good to chat with you all so much. Thanks, Daddy, for taking care of us. It's been awesome. Thanks for having us. It's so good to chat with you. I gotta bless you. Thank you. Wow, what a good pie cast of so much good advice.

Jeremy and Adi Camp. Those two people are amazing. And their story definitely inspires me. Now let's get to some, whoa, that's good. Many people are gonna be camping out on this podcast for a while. Oh, my gosh. Literally Christian just took the mic for me to say that. So I hope you guys appreciated that joke.

He's been really into puns lately. I don't know if it's a quarantine thing or if it's just your new thing What what what is all this about babe? I just saw my opportunity. So I took it You know what I like that you that that's good advice for there if you see an opportunity Take it. So now we're reading our discernment with wisdom is not yes now We're reading our good and bad advice from the was good Instagram. And so let's just read through some of these DMs, Bay, what do you say? Let's do it.

All right, set your expectations low that way you won't be disappointed. Mm. I don't know if that's necessarily good advice because a lot of times you know me and you talk about it's not healthy to set expectations and then when you realize the person can't meet them, but I don't know about necessarily like intentionally,

like setting low expectations. I think that's bad advice. Like don't set low expectations just because you're afraid of disappointment. Like, I think expectations aren't good in any sense. Like you don't want to set to high expectations because then like, you know, it's just not fair to put expectations on someone or something or whatever.

Or you're really shouldn't set low expectations because then you're just cheating yourself. But just like, I think the main thing without the reason why you could not set an expectation would have to be just have to be content with where you're at. That's great. All right, next thing. Don't take no for an answer.

Bad advice. Yes, sometimes you've got to take no for an answer. Sometimes it doesn't know. I mean, I definitely think you should fight for what you believe in. If you feel like this is one supposed to do whatever, but sometimes like a no is a no, and that's okay. Yeah, that's so true. Sometimes you've got to just move on.

All right. Next one. Do your best and leave the rest. I would like to add to God. What is that? I'm fine. I don't know. Guys, we are dependent on you and the segment of the podcast.

We need all to say this and go to bad. I said, well, that's good because this is what we're getting. I'm just reading. I'm just reading from the DMs. All right, here we have about this. The best resolution is the one you'll do. I don't get that one either. Okay, okay, okay. Failure is not an option. Depends on how you define failure, you know?

I think that sometimes knowing when to stop pursuing something is wise, but I also think that sometimes people when to stop pursuing something is wise, but I also think that sometimes people can have the mentality of like, you know, never failing, never failing and really losing it all because they like have that mindset. I don't know. I think this is the thing with failure. You actually have to acknowledge that failure is an option because I think sometimes like you'll be like Oh, I can just you know do whatever it doesn't matter. It's like no

Actually you will fail if you don't study you don't do your work. You don't work hard on all those different things So it can happen to you if you don't work hard I think if you start something you should you know work at it with all your heart as if working for a lawyer not for man You want to you want to work hard you want to accomplish something you want work at it with all your heart. As if working for a lawyer and not for a man, you want to work hard, you want to accomplish something, you want to finish something strong, there's something really important to that. I think if you're giving it all you got and you fail, then hey, that's okay.

But if you slack, do you think everything had any failed? I think that that is not living to our full potential. You know? Yeah, that's what you're in realistically, everyone's going to fail at something. So if you always just tell yourself, failure's never an option, then you're just deceiving yourself. Failure's definitely definitely an option out there. It's not the best dog. You don't want to choose failure, but it happens. It happens.

It happens to the best of us. All right. Last one. You got to be a friend to have a friend. Good advice. So Jesus said, not word for word, but. I'm gonna say, oh, when did Jesus say that? John, now I'm kidding. But no, it's so true. I mean, you know, like that's kinda what we talked about with your dad today, you know, give and take. You know, you definitely gotta give to friendships and just to be a good friend.

And like what we say, you know, reput you so, you're gonna so good friendships. You're gonna reap those good friendships in return. True. Good advice, babe. All right reap those good friendships in return. True. Good advice, babe. All right, that's all we got for this. Good thing Jeremy and Aity really brought it because we were a little off. We were a little off today.

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