WHOA That's Good Podcast - Looking For More

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

Sadie Robertson welcomes guest Levi Lusko, the founder and lead pastor of Fresh Life Church, located in Montana, Wyoming, Oregon, and Utah. He is the bestselling author of Through the Eyes of a Lion, Swipe Right, and I Declare War. Listen in as they discuss God's ideas on sex and relationships and the battle of the mind.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This one was amazing because I got on a rabbit trail of Levi Lusko's servants before I did this podcast and I gotta tell you, I am so pumped because he has so much good advice, so many good things to say to this generation and really every age living right now. And so welcome to the podcast Levi Lusco.

What's up? Thank you so much Sadie it's a joy to be on it's always such a pleasure to hear your voice and I feel like we've gotten so spoiled lately the wedding and then past 20 we've been together quite a bit lately. It's awesome. It's kind of fun whenever you live far away from somebody because the moments that you meet up are always awesome. Like whenever we're in Montana, I got to go fly fishing. That was so fun. You went fly fishing caught a fish immediately. Yeah, immediately. That's a stretch. Last five seconds of my journey. It was awesome and then the wedding passion all kinds of good stuff So fun your family is just the best and for real I'm not kidding everybody before they come on the podcast always love to read their book or something

But for you like Christian and I have literally listened to like every sermon you put out because not everyone that would be a stretch But just so many good things. And so I'm excited to just get to pick your brand for a little while. But before we go into that, I have to ask a question that we ask everybody that started this podcast. And I know it's a loaded question, but what's the best piece of advice that you've ever been given?

When you said it, the first thing that came to my mind was Dave Ramsey. When Jen and I got married, we went through financial peace university not too long afterwards and it changed our marriage. Awesome. Finances are such a factor in so many divorces and we just really wanted to get that stuff right. And I had brought some debt into our marriage. And so just learning how to, you know, back then it was like, I'm not sure if it's exactly the same way, but when you go

through his class, it's like, save a thousand dollar emergency fund, then attack your credit card, then, you know, budget, and then after that two to three months expenses, a bigger emergency fund. And then from there, you start working at paying off your house. And so I think one of the great blessings has been getting our finances in order. And then being positioned to be generous, you know, because when you're tied up in debt, it's impossible to do the things God's called you to do. So that's probably some of the best advice that I would say on a slightly different gear. It would probably be wearing a daily SPF sunscreen with a moisturizer because you only get one set of skin. You know, you got to take care of it. Also really good advice. I love whenever I ask this question because it ranges from like the most deep spiritual thing to like the most practical advice to like, I mean, it's all across

the board, but it's so good. And truly like those moments in your life that you get that advice seem to have this impact. And so that's cool to hear that you and Jenny in your early years of marriage. Now I feel like I have to give something spiritual to. I feel like talking about sunscreen and, you know, credit cards. On a spiritual note, I would say probably like meeting with Jesus every day. Yeah. Just sometime in the day having a little bit of time with Jesus. So there we go. I've punched the card on both sides now. You just did all of the above. You did

finances. You did a little bit of marriage. You did sunscreen. You did God that that was like the best That was a loaded answer to I love it Well, I'm so excited to jump into this This is gonna be kind of different than I do with most people because like I said I did get to watch several of your sermons before this and Specifically watch three of the sermons that were about the three different books that you put out And so what I did was I kind of just took some of the advice that I wrote in my notes as I took sermon notes. And I would love to just kind of softball those to you and hear your thoughts or hear you expand on some of those things

that you wrote in these amazing books. I know you have I declare war, who the eyes the lion and swipe right. And just I write listening. If you haven't read these books, incredible. So just shout out to all of your books. And you go with that if we just kind of go through a couple of the books.

Okay, so since we already talked about your marriage a little bit, we'll go into the relationship, the swipe right, because you had this quote in your sermon and you said, I can do what I want and have what God wants. And I feel like I see that so much, especially with people my age, where they really crave what God wants. And I feel like I see that so much, especially with people my age, where they really crave what God wants,

but they continue to do everything that they want. And so I just kind of wanted to ask where that kind of came from, what you kind of thought about that and what you've maybe seen in your own life. Like, okay, there are times where I wanna do what I want, but I know if I do that, that's not what God wants and how those two things come together.

Totally. That was one of the three lies in that message I was trying to expose lies, because I think one of the big things we have to do to walking God's truth is learn how to expose the enemy's lies. And I'm convinced that one of the big lies that the devil wants us to believe is, hey, look, because there's grace, because there's forgiveness, I can do whatever I want now, but then down the road, Sam, I'm sorry, and still get what God wants for me. And that's kind of that statement. And we would never maybe say it like that,

but deep down we sort of believe like, we would put it this way. Well, down the road, I want to serve God and I want to have a good family. And I'll even give money to the poor, blah, blah, blah. But right now, I'm in college or I'm in my 20s and I just want to kind of what do we say so my wild oats or I Want to just sort of get it all out of my system and we forget that you don't get things out of your system by doing them You actually put them into your system. Glacian says what a man so is the same. He will reap So to spend like your teenage years, you know' up and pornography and just kind of this, that and the other, but then you hit 28, you go, okay now, wanna get married,

I'm gonna find that girl, find that guy, and just like throw that ring on my finger, have a bachelor party or a bachelor party, and now it's kinda say goodbye to the wild years, and think that those things aren't gonna still be there with you. And so I'm just trying to say, look, of course there's forgiveness, and of course God will forgive you. Like if I'm just trying to say like, look, of course, there's forgiveness. And of course, God will forgive you. Like, if I committed a murder, God will forgive me.

But that doesn't mean I'm not going to prison. And there's a difference between consequences and God's forgiveness. So I'm just trying to say like when it comes to sex and all these things, be eyes wide open that what you do now is going to affect you down the road for good or for evil. And so make wise decisions that your future self will thank you for. Yeah, that's so good. Okay, I love it. I'll already so stoked because honestly,

it's like whenever I was listening to that, I was excited to ask you these questions because these are a lot of questions I get that I don't know necessarily how to answer sometimes. Like, there are these big questions that sometimes I feel like I'm actually don't know that. I need to ask somebody that. And so I'm kind of using you this moment to answer some of those really hard questions

that I don't know how to answer for some people. But there's another question that kind of is same talk, same message. I really want to ask this because I do feel like it's super important because actually, I'm doing this YouTube series right now. And so many people were wanting me to talk about just the whole idea of like, what does it look like in a relationship, whenever you're dating, what's still edge,

and we kinda talked about that, and then what is marriage and the sex and all that. And I wanted to ask you because you talked about in one of the messages you said, like kind of what the world's view of sex is and what it's become, and then you just nailed the idea of what God's idea for sex is in marriage. But you nailed it in this video.

So if you want to talk about that, do you mind? Sure. In the book, swipe right, I'd compare what's happening with sex today in our culture, with Tinder and porn because it's gotten crazy. You know, I mean, there's a billion swipes a day or something like that on Tinder. And there's more porn traffic online than Amazon, Netflix and Twitter put together on any given occasion. So it's crazy raw, powerful sexuality.

And it used to be, you know, to have sex with someone you had to meet them, which meant going to a bar, or going to a club, being introduced to somebody, having to actually meet them now, it's all in the palm of our hand, you know? In my lifetime, the internet was invented, became widely available, and then became portable,

and now is everywhere. And that, for the, all of human history, it wasn't the way it ever was. So it's a very, very different world we're living in, where, you know, when I was in middle school to get pornography, someone had to actually physically get their hands on it. Now it's on every iPod touch, it's on every iPhone and even Nintendo DSs can access it.

Right? So it's crazy the world we're living in. And with Tinder, you can swipe an app and meet a stranger in a city and be in bed before even it's over. And like it never happened. I was listening to it. And every yesterday, We were talking about how a girl in New York got on Tinder found some guy. They ended up meeting that day had sex at a hotel and she says while she was getting dressed, she heard a noise behind her turned around and the guy was on the

edge of the bed on Tinder looking for the next one literally. Moments after desire wasn't fulfilled looking for more. That's the craziness of the world. Of course, not everybody uses it that way. I'm not demonizing online dating or saying, God can't use that. But what I am saying is we're living in a very different time.

And this is the world we're growing up in. We're sexuality is becoming raw and powerful in everywhere, in temporary. So I compare that to pineapples in the book and how when pineapples were first discovered in the new world by Columbus, they were brought back to Europe and people were obsessed with them. It used to be, you know, what the heck? A pineapple? Oh my gosh, a pineapple.

And they became so hot, a hot commodity that in upwards of $8,000 in our currency today is how much they would cost to get one pineapple, eight grand on a pineapple. It's crazy. There was companies that would rent them, you could rent them for the night. So that at your party, there was a pineapple sitting there, there was like the big status symbol, like a Tesla on the driveway, I guess. And so it continued like this until pineapple plantations popped up

in Hawaii and everywhere else, and they made steamships available that could bring them to Europe and mask quantities. And so now you have millions and millions of pineapples headed to Europe. Well, the funniest thing happened when all these pineapples eventually showed up several hundred years after the pineapple craze began. No one wanted them anymore because everybody could have one. Turns out that it was novel and powerful and it was art because it was so rare and beautiful.

And once everybody could have a pineapple, no one wanted a pineapple. And now what did they cost? A dollar nine for a can of pineapple chunks at the grocery store. Okay. So in sex, what God intended was Genesis, one man, one woman, naked together, unashamed, one lifetime. That's rare, special, beautiful. That's $8,000. That's a piece of art. That's a master piece. That's, I've never seen one before, okay? That's how sex should be. But now with Tinder and Swipe Left, and I've seen a million naked guys or girls, I could have sex with anybody or nobody. It's like pineapple chunks in the can. And there's almost like a fatigue and a despair and an anxiety that comes from turning away from God's masterpiece plan in favor of something that's so disposable and temporary.

Wow, dang. So good, so good. I think we all need to hear that. And especially just being married now and just seeing how beautiful God designed it, it is hard to know how to even express to somebody, like wait, wait, wait, wait for what God has. Whenever they are, like, saturated and consumed in a world that just shows it as if it's pineapple chunks. That's it. And so thank you for just painting that picture. Of course, anytime I tell that story or talk about any of this stuff, I always want to at least throw out there that, you know, maybe you're hearing this and you're like, gosh, I wish I could be someone's one and only pineapple, but you know, I've made some mistakes. I've

done this. I've done that. I just would say that no matter what you've done, no matter where you've been, you're not damaged goods. So good. God doesn't see a scarlet A on your chest. He shed the blood of Jesus to forgive you. So good. So you could start a new beginning right now and God could create something brand new in your story. Reach A event. Honestly, Christian and I, we can say on one hand, like, look at how beautiful it has got standing on another hand with our past. We can say, look at the grace of God and how he's redeem things. And so, can't affirm that anymore that you're not damaged goods.

Me and Christian can both attest to that. They God has more for you if you can just actually walk out his way and choose his way over the world. Well, in honestly, Sadie, a lot of that was born out of my own life the hard way. Wow. Mistakes I've made, like, and realizing, oh, like, just to be completely candid, when I was in, you know, high school, I was first exposed to pornography and some of these things that got in my system.

And I'm a Christian now and by God's grace, I've put the right kind of framework of accountability and friendship and, you know, safeguards. So that's not a part of my story by God's grace. But I know that if I let my mind wander, those things are there for the enemy to bring back. And he loves to bring sin back to our mind that God's forgiven us for. The Bible calls that a stronghold. That it's easy in a low moment for that stuff to come back to your mind. So I just think how much better would it have been to never have to walk down that road in the first place? Yeah.

I didn't write that message out of victory. I wrote it out of failure, but I think some of the best lessons we learn come from hindsight that we can then apply to people and say, hey, look, you don't have to go that way. You can live differently. So true, it's so good. I feel the same way.

I feel like most everything I talk about is the thing I'm struggling with or the thing that I just recently came out of. And so even like live fearless, it's like the only reason I can write that book is because of like years of anxiety. And so I relate so much to what you just said. I love what you said. You're like that came out of a time that like there was there was a before there was a before Christ and kind of going off the subject of your book, people know you as, leave I let's go,

they know you for the church, fresh life, they know you for the books, they know you for all these different things. But how did it all start? Like I've heard you mentioned before, like how the church started, but like, what was that call that you're like? All right, shift gears,

like I'm starting a church in Montana. Well, I gave my life to Jesus as a freshman in high school and then there came the up and down, you know, years of peer pressure and friendships and the right people, the wrong people, the right choices, the wrong choices, but all throughout that I felt deep down a call to ministry. I started after Bible college as a volunteer intern, you know, sweeping the floors, doing whatever I could do, you know, then eventually I became an assistant youth pastor and I kind of went through the ranks of the church and and then eventually my wife and I were in a position where I was the interim teaching pastor at a large church in California. And it was kind of perfect on paper.

Like we had season passes to Disneyland, we're eating in and out every week. We had a condo with a view of the ocean. We were like, this is our dream. You know, you know, me and where you're like, everything we could have said life would look like this is it, but we felt a restlessness on the inside. And we felt like maybe that restlessness over time, as we sought wise counsel and kept praying about it. Maybe it was the Holy Spirit saying, like he said in the book of Acts, separate me, Paul and Barnabas for this mission trip. We felt like maybe it was God's voice. And we weren't

rash about it. We weren't quick, but eventually we began to really feel like God wanted us to step out into the wild, into the unknown, to do something that didn't make sense necessarily to anybody, looking at it going, like one person said, Hey, this is not God's will for your life. You guys are doing so great in California. There's millions of people. It makes sense. And you don't even make sense in Montana as we began to think about maybe Montana's place got put that on our radar, but we just felt like you look it doesn't have to make sense to people it just has to make sense to go. It's so good. So we 13 years ago moved here we had enough savings to live for a year and we just started telling people about Jesus we started the church the Sunday after we arrived in an empty room of a bar and And 14 people came to the first gathering, and now flash forward 13 years.

We've seen God use it in great ways, but it started with that small seed. Yeah, that's awesome. Oh my gosh, everything you say is like a literally preaching to me because I feel like, you know, in some ways things have taken off. And obviously God has done a lot in my life that's blown me away,

but there are still like other things that I'm believing for that. I feel like like I'm just sewing seeds right now, right? And starting small like even though on one hand We're able to speak at passion me and my team are so going to college campuses meet with like 10 people Trying to like start by will studies you know, and so just continuing to sew those seeds and just believing that God's gonna Do something with them and that's the stuff that like doesn't make sense to people. And sometimes it doesn't even make sense to me, but it's the things that like I'm hearing God say.

And so that's just so encouraging, especially seeing where you've been ginning right now. Well does it make sense to bring five loaves and two fishes to 5,000 people or fight a giant with five rocks? I mean, it just doesn't. But you know, the thing is is that God's methods seldom make sense. Yeah. But his purposes can never be stopped. So good. And that's what you have to remember.

Oh, that is awesome. See, this is why the podcast is called, Whoa, that's good. Because everything you say, I'm like, whoa, that is so good. That's seriously so good. Again, you say something in I declare war, that was super powerful to me. And I think it kind of goes along with everything that you're saying with you and Jenny, just filling this heart tug towards Montana,

kind of seem crazy. And you said, you can't read to a world that you have abandoned. And what I see you and Jenny do really well is you love the church, but you also love people in the world so much. And I think some people think if they choose church, then it's like almost like in against the world type thing, which is clearly not what Jesus says when God's a love the world he gave us some, but I think

sometimes as Christians, like we can have that mindset that like, oh, we can't, you know, go to Hollywood or you can't go to this. And I experienced that some of my life. It's like the things that I might do that might seem like a worldly TV show, for instance, for days with the stars. There were people in the church that were like, oh, you can't do that because you're in the church. Right. What are kind of your thoughts behind that?

How do you love the church, be in the church, and also extend love to the world? Yeah, that's such the question, Sadie. You know, I think the template is given for us very clearly in the life of Jesus. Of course, he would go to synagogue on Saturday, which was the Sabbath back then. And he sets that example as from a young age. The Bible says he went to the synagogue on

the Sabbath day as was his custom since he was a young boy. So even when he got lost, the one time he got lost, where did he go? Church. So Jesus loved church. He was always there. He did a lot of miracles in synagogues and preached there and gave messages there. But at the same time, he says, a key is his house, his feet are getting washed by a prostitute, he would be at birthday parties and events and a thing so often he got called a drunkard and wine biver, of course he wasn't getting drunk,

but he was there, his fierce miracle was out of wedding. So Jesus was a good time. Kids loved him. You know, right then, that he was a fun guy because kids don't run up to the weirdo. They run through guys who's super cool and fun and you know all that So Jesus was a joy to be around and that's why he got invited everywhere And so I think it's not a banning church for sake of cool. Yeah, we're not looking for cloud

We're not looking for status or followers. What we're trying to love people Yeah, and if all we ever do is love people who are already Jesus followers We're not doing anything to build heaven. So it's like we want to have friends who don't know Christ. If it's not people in your life who don't know not like all have friends You're like dropping the F on the way. Oh, sorry. I shouldn't your pastor. It's like because they don't know Jesus It's like I don't expect you to live a clean life if you don't know Christ because Jesus always cleans this fish after it catches them You know, so when people come to know him then they can begin to learn how to follow him But sometimes we expect the world to act like the church. And here's the irony. Half the time,

the church doesn't even act like the church. So, you know, I think we have to be in the world without being of the world. And that means we're being in people's lives on the journey, watching them be changed by God's grace. That's so good. So much freedom in that too. And confidence in like what we know we have in crisis I love it so good on a smaller scale, but not even really a small scale and I declare where I Love that you talk about bad mood That's just like a topic that I feel like not many people talk about just like having a bad mood and like Just the effects that has on you and the people around you and you talk about it

It's such a profound way and even share some of your own stories on having a bad mood. And especially in a culture where like mood is a very popular term, like we're just kind of moody, right? And like everybody has their own mood and is very entitled to whatever mood they're feeling. And so I kind of want you to address some of that

because I think so many people listening, hit on with the bad mood device and that's gonna touch somebody. Yeah. Well, gosh, you're talking, I felt the creeping on of a bad mood today. I thought I was gonna phone call and it was just like frustrating.

But here's the thing, our culture, we place this huge emphasis on like my truth, my feeling, I have to be authentic. Yeah. And in one hand that's good. We don't want fake, we don't want phony, we don't want to pretend we're doing good when we're hurting. But in the other hand, we've also been giving God's Spirit, we've been given these tools to think right

and deliver right and to be obedient. I think sometimes there's a tension between, well, I just want to be authentic, but we're also called the be obedient. One of the most important things is to be obedient. And if we're going to be obedient to scripture, we have to set our mind on things above. We have to choose to let our words be profitable.

We have to take control of our spirit. All of these things are in the Bible too. So for example, I think one of the most important things you can learn about worship is worship is not a feeling expressed through actions. It's an act of obedience that sometimes develops the right feelings. So that is to say, when I go to church, I don't lift my hands and praise God only when I feel like it

because then it's not a sacrifice of praise. They worship him because he's worthy and then the feelings oftentimes follow. So you can go, well, it's not authentic if it doesn't come from my heart. I have to come from the right place. Well, what if your heart's wrong? What if your heart's sinful?

What if in the moment your heart is just funky and being stinky and you're being attitude-y? What if you just need to nail that stuff down and crucify your flesh and follow Jesus and do the hard stuff? If Jenny only loved me when I was lovable, we would have a good marriage. She loves me because she made a covenant

and oftentimes the way that she and I get what we want to feel is by doing what we are supposed to do. Yeah. So when it comes to moodiness, okay, so I'm starting to, you know, feel like I'm having a pity party or things aren't going my way or someone was, you know, whatever rude to me. And I start to feel the storm clouds roll in. That's when it's critical and crucial that we take drastic action. If you're in a plane and it starts to get turbulent, what does a pilot do?

He gets altitude. He goes above the storm. He says, hey, ladies and gentlemen, stay back all that for a second. We're going to go around this storm. Well, when you see clouds coming in your life emotionally, you don't just keep plowing on and then go get Ben and Jerry's and put some sweats on and sold on the couch watching reruns of friends on Netflix. You have to choose to read a scripture, put a pray song on and choose to go do something nice for somebody

and do something you don't want to do and you'll feel better when you get your eyes off yourself. That's so good. I love what you just said. What if your heart's wrong? Like I feel like a lot of times we don't even consider ourselves being the problem, but that's so good. I feel it. Even the Ben and Jerry's and the friends saying thing. so relatable, so real and super helpful. Thanks for sharing that. One of the things that you said and do the eyes and the lion, it's one of like the most profound things actually to this day. So my mom, I know you know my mom, she's legendary, but she is like mom goals 10,000. She's mom goals 10,000 by the way. She's mom goals 10,000. I know like and your dad too.

I love your family so much. I really do. They're the best, the best people. And your bro, love your brother. My bro shout out to John Luke. I mean, just the whole fan. They're great. My best friends for all but my mom like,

she reads all the time. Like I've never seen anybody read more books than her. We joke that like her nightstand by her bed. It's not just a nightstand. It's a whole entire long stretched table because there's so many books are on it. You need to get her a Kindle. No, she has a Kindle. She just has so many books. But to this day, she says that through the eyes and the lion is one of her favorite books. Like I asked for the other day what her favorite book was. I was like, I need to read something. And she's like, uh, honestly, through the eyes of my only Veloccio. And so that book, I mean, it touches so many people, but something you said, I think it's just so profound because it's

not what people think about. And I think maybe it's because the perspective that they have of God or maybe what they've learned or maybe it's just their own shame, I don't really know what it is. But you said, you're going to lean into God's anger instead of leaning away from God's anger. And you talk about what that looks like for you to lean into God's anger instead of leaning away from God's anger. And you talk about what that looks like for you to lean into that. And I have honestly just never heard that before. And I would love for you to share with people because I just feel like that to me was so awakening.

Oh, gosh, Sadie. What's so kind and kind of your mother as well. That book means so much to us because of course it was written out of our daughter going to heaven in our arms five days before Christmas. All the things God taught me in the coming days were put into that book. And when you said that God's anger leaning into it, I pictured myself in my car snowy day driving very, very, very sad. Linear my five year old, you know, just thinking over wanted to hold her, wanted to snuggle

her. I had come across her bicycle in the garage with her helmet hanging from the handlebars where she had last hung it up and it just broke my heart. And I just remember one of the common things in the days after she went to heaven was I would be driving. Those were some of the most hard times because I would just feel so mad. And I would, I remember screaming out, no, just no, just feeling helpless and my reaction was to yell no. And it was the funniest thing.

I felt like I could almost picture God yelling it to. Like him angry. And someone later on said, how are you not mad at God? You're a pastor trying to serve him and you know, here's how God treats you. You should get a pass for being a pastor. And I went, how could I be mad at God when God's mad too? He's angry about death. He's angry about sin. He never wanted us to deal with it. And that's why he said, don't eat from the forbidden fruit in the garden, because otherwise death's coming. And then Jesus showed us this perfectly at the story of Lazarus dying when he showed up at the grave and what did he do? He wept. Yes. He's got emotions like we do, but then he groaned in his spirit. And the Greek word for groan is actually the bellowing and raging of an angry horse.

Wow. I don't know if you've been around a mad horse, but man, you keep a wide birth when you see a mad horse. You don't want to get kicked in the face. And so here's Jesus, angry at death, but not just angry. He was angry enough to do something about it. Wow. So the times that I'm tempted to be mad at God, I just remember it's his anger inside me, and then I trust that he's gonna work it out.

Well, okay, that is gonna bring healing to so many people, as I know it already has, and just thank you and Jenny for just being so willing to share your story, and share your heart, share your marriage, your life. It's so inspiring, like on so many levels from your books to your church to Even just your life as a friend you guys are the best every time I see you all I saw Jenny at passion and just let the way her face lights up to greet a friend It's just awesome. Oh, thanks. Hey, I don't know if I'm allowed to say it But Jenny she's been the last 13 months working on a book of her own kind of a mom's heart perspective on grief loss pain

Hope and finding joy and little things and yes, it's coming out next year She let me read a little bit of it and I man it is unbelievable The fight to flourish the fight to flourish. That's such a Jenny title But she's so beautiful, but she's so like she would get you like she is awesome. She's a warrior I cannot wait to read that she actually just text me about that and I was so stoked because I love her everything she says. I'm like all ears and so I can't wait to read her book and she also is the one that got me to actually go to a workout class and conquer that fear in which started my working out phase. So I just got to give a shout out to Jenny for many reasons. Well, you'll love it because the crew came out to film the curriculum videos for small groups and stuff and

They were like we want to film you against like a wall with flowers and she's like, hey, why don't you come to my spin class? Literally they brought the camera crew and filmed her on the bike doing that because she's talking about how that helps her soul to do workouts And part of it boxing on a boxing bag. It's very classic Jenny. She is awesome. I know she always sends like a flower emoji, but I'm like, but I really see you on a punching bag. She's so cool. So good. She's awesome. Levi, thank you. You crushed it. This is just so helpful. I'm so excited for people to hear this. I was like so blessed to get to hear this myself. It said, thank you so much. Oh, thank you for having me, city.

We love you in Christian so much. Yes, we love you all too. Tell your wife I said, hey, and the girls, and I can't wait for her books. We also. What's up, fam? How good was that podcast? Levi, let's go.

Yo. Yo, Levi, yo. Levi's awesome. I love when you get up to the mic just to whatever comes out is gold. Something always comes out. Me and my hubby are in the house and we also have our dog in the house. They've all here a little barking say, hey, Cabo. And I thought we'd need a touch back on this because it was in a world that's good with its bad segment that kind of made us decide to get a dog. That's so true. Somebody said, good or bad advice.

They said, get a dog. And Christian said, great advice. And I said, bad advice. And I jokingly said, if we have a dog in two weeks, y'all want to know that you did this to us. Well, we got a dog literally two weeks later, did we not? Yeah, we did. Yeah, and I think we're on the neutral zone

and I don't know if it was good advisor. Yeah, no, we love her. Just kidding, we love her. She's awesome, but she did just have an accident right before we started and Christian had to clean it up. So there's that. Sorry, babe. Hey, you're the one that said it was great advice.

That's so true. All right, let's get started. As always, good advice and bad advice is brought to you by the Woodette's Good Podcast Instagram account. So thanks for sending in some advice. Alright, babe, what do you think about the classic fake it till you make it? Oh, so that's bad advice. I feel like growing up, a lot of parents like to tell their children that and I think

that just really creates and kids at a young age this mentality that you have to be super tough and that you have to really just not care about your feelings. And I think that that line creates so many thoughts and people that if you have any emotions, that's a bad thing. So fake it till you make it and don't let anybody know

that you're maybe going through something or not being real with yourself. And I think that that can't really distort people's view on just being real with their feelings and what they're thinking Dang babe, that was really good. That was great advice. I love that shoot. Come on Well, it's true. I'm sure you hear like kids when they're young and I feel like a lot of parents tell their kids whether it's plan Peeley football for example, and it's like you know think it to you make it People grow with that mentality and it's like you can't be real and if

you're real then that makes you less of a man when it's like David what before the Lord and played the harp so. I love that. I love that baby. That's so good. That's great advice. All right. Next one. Now this is really cool because I think that this is really played into our marriage already just over two months in but it says don't go to bed angry. Such good advice. That's such good advice. Even sometimes with us being two centers, I feel like oftentimes we're about to go to sleep and it's like we know deep down that we need to talk about this before an argument, but it's like, oh, we really just we'd really go to sleep and wake up in the morning. I hope everything's fine, but you know, that's just never the case. If you wake up in the morning, then you didn't resolve that.

I think that's even like time doesn't heal wounds, you know? Yeah. A good night's sleep is not going to take your mind off what you were talking about the night before. So I love going to sleep with us being on the same page and not being in an argument. And I think that goes for people. I mean, I know that goes for people single too. The Bible talks about any Ephesians

don't go to bed angry at another believer. And it says, it's okay to be angry at the end of justice. It's okay to be angry at the things that are sinful, that aren't of God, but don't be angry at another believer in being angry at the sin that our believers going through. And I just have always loved that from Ephesians. And so even when you're single, you know, it's with temptation to go to bed angry at the sin that our believers going through. And I just have always loved that from Ephesians. And so even when you're single, you know, it's with temptation to go about angry at somebody who did you wrong that day, angry at somebody in your own

house, angry at your family member. And there are reasons why you should be angry. But I just encourage you, like, don't go about angry at that person. You can be angry at the sin. Pray for the sin. Hope that sin goes away. Talk to them about that. But don't be angry at that person because life short, sin, hope that the sin goes away, talk to them about that, but don't be angry at that person because life's short.

Well, I'm trying to be angry at each other. That's good. Alright, babe. Last one, listen well to others who think different than you. That is great advice. Because honestly, if you want to neglect that before you get married, you're just setting yourself up for failure. Yep.

You know, we've had so many conversations where maybe one of us is thinking something different and the conflict just arises when one of us fails to listen to the other. And I think that when you listen and you're able to receive understanding and able to provide understanding that it really levels things out and that really takes you out of a defensive mode. So true. And there's so many things in life that aren't like right or wrong. It's just like different opinions and perspectives. Yeah.

And my mom always says like listen because you might be wrong. She's like we always like the thing that we're right about everything but we're just not. Like some people actually have it figured out a little bit better than we do in a certain area of life. And so you don't want to miss out on like an amazing perspective of life just because you think you're some right, or your opinion is the right opinion. As I quote often, ever since Elizabeth Hasselbeck's podcast, we don't want to be so right that we're wrong with people. And I think that kind of sums up this whole little

last segment of advice, but y'all, this podcast has had so many truth bombs. You might want to listen to this one again. I know I will, but I hope you encourage today today and hope you have a great rest of your week Hey Thank you so much for listening to the woe that's Good Podcast. I have so much been doing this, I hope you'll have fun listening. And don't forget to follow me on Instagram at legitsadyrob and follow the podcast at WoW That's Good Podcast.

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