WHOA That's Good Podcast - Relationship Goals: Part 1

Episode Date: April 29, 2020

Sadie welcomes Michael Todd, Lead Pastor of Transformation Church based in Tulsa, OK. Listen in as they have a candid and inspiring conversation on finding lasting love. Pastor Todd also discusses his... new book, Relationship Goals —based on the viral sermon series about dating, marriage, and sex.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, what's up, good fam! Today we have a very special guest. One of my favorite people, one of my favorite preachers. I am totally apart of transformation nation. We have Mike Todd on the podcast. Welcome! Let's go. I am so excited to be here. And this honestly is a dream come true for me because anything that we get to do together, Sadie, it always has a lasting impact. So I'm excited to be on this amazing platform today. It's so true. We have had some really cool moments that God has just set up. I mean, we've met in London. I've been to transformation. It's just been really awesome.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I love how God's done that. And the cool thing is, this really is a dream come true because when I made my original podcast list, I was like, one day we have to get Michael Todd on the podcast because you're alive. No, you can look at like, you can look at every list I've ever Todd on the podcast. You know, you're a line. No, you can look at like, you can look at every list I've ever made for my podcast and you have made it every single time,
Starting point is 00:01:11 but I was just waiting on the right time. And it's really cool because the whole reason I wanted you on where I originally started was Alice and To the Relationship Goal series. And now here you are, you have a book coming out about relationship goals. And so this is just awesome. There's so much I want to get into about that. But first, we'll ask you the question we ask everybody, what is the best piece of advice that you've ever been given?
Starting point is 00:01:36 Okay, so this is a really great question that you're asking. I honestly had a different answer, but over the past two years, I have gotten some advice that has changed the trajectory of my life, and I wanna give it to everybody listening. This is what one of my mentors said to me. He said, running is overrated. And I was like, huh?
Starting point is 00:01:59 He said, running is overrated. He said, you need to always find the pace of grace. And when I tell you that in our society today, this whole thing that we talk about being successful and getting in relationships and winning and all of these different things, it almost seems like everybody's running a race that God didn't set for them. Like they're running a race to compete with people that they go to school with, they're running a race to compete with people that are in their family or running a race.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And he just told me he said, running is overrated. He said, find the pace of grace. And for me, Sadie, that's how I'm sitting here right now, is I decided not to strive anymore, like use all my effort and energy to do the things that God already said that he wanted to do in my life. And I was gonna strive, S-T-R-I-D-E,
Starting point is 00:02:51 find the pace of grace. And so that is the best piece of advice that I've gotten in my entire life. That's so good. I mean, for everybody listening out there, I'll just speak from my personal experience. I actually listened to your stride series when you talked about the pace of grace.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And it actually really impacted my life at time because I felt like I was in that. Like I moved to Nashville and if you move to a big city like you get this and probably just anywhere, you start to feel like you got to run a little faster because everybody around you's running fast. And then I'm like, why haven't I even been doing this? This isn't even what I'm here for. God has set something in my heart. As the reason I'm here, like obviously,
Starting point is 00:03:26 it's going into a compilh of purpose that's for him. So I don't even need to be looking to my left or right. But when you get in that scenario, you start to want to run a little faster. And so when I heard that, it actually changed a lot for me. Like my team and I have had so many talks about just like slowing it down and just like going on our own pace. And that has actually like been the biggest blessing
Starting point is 00:03:43 to our ministry is not looking to the left and right. And just going at the pace that God has set before us. Oh, man, like I can't even tell you how good that is. So just for everybody listening, like actually taking that advice to your own heart and your own life, it'll change everything. That is such good advice. Well, this is the thing, Sadie, for everybody listening it, like sound super like, oh, yeah, just go into your own pace, but we got Instagram, we got Facebook,, Sadie, for everybody listening it like sounds super like, oh yeah, just go into your own pace,
Starting point is 00:04:05 but we got Instagram, we got Facebook, we got TikTok, we got all of these things that we're all looking at. But what I found is we have to look in to our greatest example in the word of God, which is Jesus. And the thing that I found as I searched the scripture, Sadie, is that Jesus fulfilled every prophecy ever spoken about him.
Starting point is 00:04:25 He did it in three years, not 33 years. That's how long he was alive, but he only had three years of ministry. He did it in three years, and there is not one place in the Bible that you can find that Jesus ran to his next appointment. So true. There's nowhere, and it says like, and in haste, the disciples in Jesus did it because they had to heal somebody in another town, like not one place.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And that means that if Jesus was able to accomplish everything he was supposed to accomplish and say it is finished, right? And he never had to run anywhere. Why in the world would we have to be doing all of this stuff? They didn't have internet back then. They didn't have electric cars back then. I mean, if you really think about it,
Starting point is 00:05:08 the only animal that you ever see him on, because if I was the son of God, I would at least have been on a horse or something like that. He literally only rode on a donkey, which is a walking animal. You got what I'm saying? And so I think God's given us an eternal picture. So yeah, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:05:25 That's so good. That is such a message to especially I think where we're at. I mean, if you said that last year, it's like, oh, yeah, like we have got to slow down. We're running so fast. And now we actually are slowed down. Oh, yeah. Because of this quarantine. And so now it's like now really find the pace to grace. Now really because I think people think like now that we're slowed down, like God's not moving. God's not working. It's like, no, God the pace to grace. Now really, because I think people think like now that we're slowed down, like God's not moving, God's not working. And it's like, no, God is moving, God is working. Don't tap out of that just because we're in a different season.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. Yeah. Man, I love it. It's so good. Something that you talk about going into this relationship goals talk. And by the way, if you have not heard the whole YouTube series, go on a car ride for like seven hours and listen to the whole YouTube series, go on a car ride for like seven hours and listen to the whole thing because it's so good or just wait and get the book because I'm
Starting point is 00:06:10 sure all of it's going to be in there. But kind of what you start out talking about is how we're learning so much about relationship goals from pop culture instead of God's word. And I don't even think so many times that even our generation, even a lot of Christians even think about God's word as a place to learn about relationships. And so what would you say to the person that's like, well, how is that even relevant
Starting point is 00:06:32 because that's so long ago, do they even talk about relationships? What's your reasoning for like, actually know like the word of God is where you're gonna find that? I heard a quote that where the purpose of a thing is not known abuse is inevitable. And I thought about that when it comes to relationships and that's where a lot of our relationships
Starting point is 00:06:51 end in hurt and in us being damaged because we don't know the purpose of. Well, where do you go to find the purpose of a thing? You go to the creator. Yeah. If I have an iPhone, I do not go to my car mechanic to figure out how my iPhone works. Not because he's not smart or doesn't know anything about it is because he didn't create it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And many of us have been going to culture for the idea of relationship and culture didn't create relationship. Yeah. And so I think that it's worth us diving in to maybe something that you're unfamiliar with because we've been so inundated with the Kardashians and the Bachelor and the relationships we see in our family and we've used that because it's closer and tangible.
Starting point is 00:07:38 But the problem, this is why I wrote this book, is because I grew up in church, Sadie. I had great people around me. And nobody talked about relationships. All you knew was like some work and some didn't. And the only thing that was ever said is don't have sex before you're married. Well, that's not very extensive. Like, and what happens if you've already done that
Starting point is 00:07:59 or what happens if you were exposed to something on a late night movie channel or at a friend's house or some type of magazine that you saw that aroused different thoughts and stuff. What happens? Because life is real. And then nobody talks about it. And so you're kind of like sent off into the world to kind of figure it out.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And what happens is the whole reason I called it relationship goals was number one because it is a cultural term, but honestly because we all have a goal in relationship and I believe God has a goal for us in relationship, but you can never hit a goal if you don't aim. And there's many people that are not aiming in relationship. And that's why they date this type of guy, that type of girl, go through this experimental phase and what it ends up doing is rob them of who they really were. I've seen so many people start off joyous people and they go through three or four relationships and then they're cynical and pessimistic. Yeah, so true.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And my thing is, man, if they would have had some aim, if they would have known right at the beginning, like, yeah, that's not for me, that would have helped. So I would encourage anybody out there, like the reason why we should look at the Word of God is because it's where the origination of relationships came from. And you always go to the originator or the creator of a thing to find out its intentional use. That's so good. What I love about the way that you talk about relationships. And like you said, it's like you grow up in the church, you grow really anywhere. And you don't really hear somebody truly talk about the kind of stuff that you're actually going to go through in life, especially when it comes to relationships.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Oh, yeah. And if you've never listened to Michael Todd or transformation church, one of the things that they say is that they're a hot church humble open and transparent. Oh, yeah. And that's like my favorite thing, because you know when you read a book that, like this book that you're writing, or whenever you listen to,
Starting point is 00:09:50 you know you're gonna shoot them straight. And it's so good, because I'll tell you the minute, like I was hooked into relationship goals, was in the first like two minutes and you played this video on hitting a target and you talk about the danger of shooting it everything without aim,
Starting point is 00:10:04 which what you're saying. And for me, I was in a season where that is what I was doing. Yeah. I was just like, oh, well, yeah, I did this person, I did this person, and maybe that'll be the right thing. And maybe. And then I was like getting her over and over. And over and over. And I was like a cycle. I was doing the same thing over and over and not just stopping and thinking. And so, you know, somebody might see relationship goals. And they're like, oh, well, I've been singing all my life. This isn't for me. And and I would just say it actually is exactly for you. It's for anybody. Yeah everywhere No matter what season you're in because you kind of hit on it all and for me when this was I mean most impactful for my life When I listen it was like you say before the person it was before I stepped into that relationship and I'm so glad
Starting point is 00:10:43 It was and so I want wanna talk to you about, because you were talking about once you find the aim, once you shoot, people ask me this all the time, how can I tell if my relationship is really from God? How do people tell? How do they know like, okay, this is a good relationship, this is a God-send relationship. There's a couple of things that I tell people
Starting point is 00:11:02 because everybody wants this like one-off answer that covers everything. But think about our God. Is he so amazing? He speaks in a lot of different ways. Okay. The first thing, the way that you can know is a relationship from God. It's very simple. You don't need God. You don't need anybody else. All you need is yourself and an experience with that person. Ask yourself this question. Is this person helping me? It's good. and experience with that person. Ask yourself this question, is this person helping me? It's good.
Starting point is 00:11:26 One of the things that a lot of times we do is we overlook all the things that people are taking away from us because of how it makes us feel in the moment. And a lot of people start acting differently. They're late for their classes and the commitments they've upset before. They are short in relationships that are valuable to them.
Starting point is 00:11:46 They're not listening to anybody. They're lowering their standards of purity. They're doing all of these things. And a lot of times you'll be like, but no, this relationship is great for me. And I'm so happy to be in relationship with them. And I tell people, after a few minutes of relationship or a few weeks or a few months of relationship, you need to really step back and maybe write a list and say, is this helping me?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Am I a better person? Am I keeping my commitments? Am I talking about things that are helping me? Or do I feel used? Do I feel depressed? Am I trying to prove myself? Do I feel whatever you can feel? So that's the first thing.
Starting point is 00:12:22 The other thing is how can I know this relationship is from God? Ask God. And this is one of the things that people, they say that, but they're asking you, hoping that you're able to speak on behalf of God. And nobody can do that. It's so true. And so I encourage people, you know, this is such an important decision in your life that it's worth you praying about and waiting on an answer. Yeah. Like waiting to make it Facebook. Yes. Like waiting to tell everybody he's the one or she's the one. Yeah. And I've had people do things like, you know what? I'm going to fast. I'm going to push my plate away until three o'clock or six o'clock for
Starting point is 00:13:00 three days or a week. And one thing that the Bible tells all of us so clearly is if you seek God, he'll answer. That's right. If you knock, the door will be open to you. And a lot of people think that's something for pastors or ministers. And that's for every person who would actually dare to do it. So true.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And I'm telling you, like, God will show you, and he may not speak to you audibly, but you'll be watching something. And it'll be like, that person you and he may not speak to you audibly, but you'll be watching something and it'll be like, that person you're in relationship with is not right for you. And you're like, God, you speaking to me and then a friend will text you and be like, hey, I was just feeling like Johnny, there's something about him that wrote me the wrong way
Starting point is 00:13:38 because God speaks through things, he speaks through people and he will speak directly to your heart. And I think he'll give you confirmation if you're weighed on the problem in Sadie. Most people are so anxious. They're running into relationships. There goes back to my advice again. Like they won't find the pace of grace in a relationship because the idea of us being together looks good. Our pictures look good together. My parents love him. My brother wishes he could date her.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Like we go off of all of these ideas and it's like, if we don't move now, this is not gonna work out. But man, if it's right, you're gonna have a lifetime together. That's so true. And so I would just encourage people man to really just ask God and ask yourself, are they helping you?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, man, I can't even tell you how relatable that was. I was like, do you know like me and Christians whole story? I'm laughing at such good advice. I mean, Christian and I when we started dating, I was so afraid that I was doing what I used to do just shooting with that name. I was going to rush into something and so when Christian asked me to go on a date, it was in July and I said, yeah, and he's decaying. When works for you, because he didn't live where I live. So he was gonna have to drive. And I said, how about the week and September the 10th?
Starting point is 00:14:56 And he said, that's in two months. And I said, yep. It's like, I just need a little time to think about it. You know, and let's just grow a relationship a little bit more. And so anyways, we did, we did, we did, and then we ended up going on a date and then we taught some more. And then about five months in, I ended up saying, okay, let's just take a week or so and let's just pray.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Like let's just not talk and let's just pray a little bit. And people might be like, oh wow, that's like super Christian to take a week not talk. But it wasn't that. It was just, I so wanted it to be the right thing. And I didn't want to do it again, the wrong way and just running so fast, you don't even realize what kind of relationship you're in. I was like, I just want to pause and see
Starting point is 00:15:36 if like, this is really from God and so we took a pause. And I can't even tell you like, I had so much peace coming out of that pause. I was like, I am a better person because since we've been dating, I'm closer to the Lord instead of further away from him. I see so much fruit in our relationship. We are so much better to get. It was like all of it just clicked
Starting point is 00:15:55 and it was so shortly after that that we were like, man, we want to get married and we start to get married and it was just so beautiful how that happened. But it was that waiting it, was that actually realizing that we are better people and that we're helping each other and that we're closer to God instead of distracted from God. And so that is such good advice. I mean, we can say that from our own life, I echo everything you said.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Something that I saw it says in your book is something that you kind of touch on. I would love to talk about this a little bit because I think that sometimes people might just qualify themselves from like a good relationship because of things that they've done in their past. And I actually hear that a lot. People talk to me like, well, I will never be able to get that type of relationship because this is my story or because this is what I went through.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And I saw that you kind of touch on how to move on from past mistakes. And so what some advice you give somebody who just disqualifies themselves and doesn't think that they're worthy of a good relationship because it may be something that they've walked through in the past. Okay, so you said we could be hot, right?
Starting point is 00:16:55 Be hot, yes. Okay, so let me let everybody know, yes, I'm a pastor now, okay. But that has not been my story. I was a classic mess up. I was a manipulator, I was a pastor now, okay? But that has not been my story. I was a classic mess up. I was a manipulator. I was a cheater. Some of you guys may know me and my wife Natalie's story.
Starting point is 00:17:12 We've been together since we were 15 years old. I was 15, she was 14. The most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. We started dating and we've been together ever since, except for about 10 months of insanity that led to 10 years of trust building. Okay, so basically long story short without boring you with all the juicy details that you'll have to find out when you get the book. What ended up happening was we were about to get more serious and I just wasn't ready to take it to that level. There was another young lady that was planted in my view and I started pursuing her and it caused a mistrust that happened.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Me and Natalie broke up and when we broke up, all hail broke loose. She lost her virginity and then I felt very competitive and so we got back together and then we had sex together, but it was not out of love or union. It was because I felt insignificant. And then that opened up a Pandora's box of me as we were progressing into trying to get engaged and all this stuff, cheating on her and not telling her. And we walked through a season of probably a year or so of me having sexual interactions with somebody that we all knew that was around us. The girl ends up telling Natalie, breaks her heart. I'm completely shattered. I have other issues that I need to work through. Is this too much? Am I being too hot right now? No. Okay. I think that this is gonna help a lot of people including Christian and I love it Okay, so we go through all of this situation. We decide no
Starting point is 00:18:50 We're gonna really live for God and we're gonna do this thing for him And I'm sitting at this moment where my past is so big that it's like Can me and Natalie ever have a relationship that is built on trust? I literally have to text her every time I go anywhere to let her know who's there, because she just doesn't trust me anymore. I know I wanna be with her, I know that I wanna love her, but will we be able to be pure until marriage
Starting point is 00:19:20 and all these other things? And man, this is the scripture that God really just really kept washing over me. He said, any man that be in Christ, any woman who is actually in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away, behold, I have made everything new. And I literally had to look at that scripture every day. And the question I had to ask myself is am I in Christ or do I just no Christ or am I around Christ? Yeah. And I had to make sure I was in Christ and one of
Starting point is 00:19:54 those scriptures that kept me Psalms 119 how does the young man or a young woman keep his way pure by hiding themselves in the Word of God. And I just had to keep going to the Word of God be like, I am not what I did. Because even in that same time, I'm going to go, even, I'm going to put a little extra sauce on it. So then the enemy convinced me now I'm not cheating, but I'm trying to be pure. He convinced me that it was better to watch pornography then to actually engage with another person. So now it goes down a level because it's one of those things that the enemy he tries to trick you well, it's not hurting anybody else except it was killing my soul.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And so I'm getting all of these images in my head. And now I'm all this other stuff, but I'm not doing it with anybody. And I'm keeping now this secret from Natalie. And so it's all of these things. And I had to walk through a process of knowing that I had messed my own self up by making decisions, but God was not holding that against me.
Starting point is 00:20:54 He was saying, all you have to do is turn. All you have to do, and that's the word repent. A lot of people think the word repent is some deep, scary, like you have to change who you are. All repent means is to turn. So good. And what I had to do every day was turn. Decide to turn off the computer. Decide to turn to the word of God. Decide to turn to Natalie and tell her the truth. And when I turned, when I repented and I turned to God, that scripture, I was in Christ, any man, any woman who be in Christ.
Starting point is 00:21:26 He's a new creation. And I kept getting a new chance. His grace and mercy was new every day for me. And the more I believe the truth of not what I did, but who I was because of what Jesus had done for me, it changed my entire life. And so for anybody that's listening to this right now, who you can't remember how many people you slept with or who you can't unthink some of the things that legitimately or illegitimately happen to you when you were younger, you're still stuck in the college days or that one
Starting point is 00:21:58 wild night or the things that you like to do in a different season. And then you came to Christ and you realized those were wrong. I don't care who you are. What I want you to know is if you are in Christ, you are becoming and are a new creation. It's not because of your works. It's the grace of God. The Bible tells us it's a free gift that He gives to us.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And man, all I'm asking you to do is to receive it. Receive that God does not see you in the filthy rags that you are in doing and seeing and being how you were. He sees you through Jesus and whenever he looks at you and he sees Jesus, he sees a perfect, amazing, beautiful creation and that's how he rewards you. That's how he speaks to you. That's how he wants to love you and that's the type of spouse and person in relationship he wants to give to you. That's how he speaks to you. That's how he wants to love you. And that's the type of
Starting point is 00:22:45 spouse and person in relationship he wants to give to you. But you know what I found, Sadie? Is that what God has for us? Many times we don't think we deserve. Yeah, that's true. And that's why we have to renew our minds. And so I'm telling you, if anybody can come back and God give me a message of relationship goals, it was because of how broken I was and how the grace of God restored me and Natalie's relationship. And this June 19th, we will celebrate 10 years of being married. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Three beautiful kids. And I'm in more love with that girl today than I have ever been. Amazing. Wow. Me and Christian are sitting over here like literally, it brings tears to my eyes and I'm not like a cryer. Really, but I do cry whenever I just feel the presence of Jesus because I just feel like that is going to speak to so many and wash over so many.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I want to end it there because I just feel like a lot of times with these podcasts or any messages that I do, I really hope that it really sends you into your time with God. You don't just stop here, but you really think about the things that were said and like let it sink into your heart, take some of those things that he said and apply them. And you know, one of the things that I love about you and that I learned from you is that you truly take God at his word. And I've like watched you do that through like different messages that I've heard. And even the way that we've all gotten to watch you walk out like the new church building into an arena, like you take God of his word. If God says something, you believe it.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And that is not a, if you're reading a scripture and he says, I'm a new creation, you believe your new creation or if it's something that he says to you in your house and you're like, you know what? We are going to be an arena one day day and that's going to be our church. And so it's just so inspiring, but we get to see the fruit that comes off of that. And so I hope that you guys, anybody listening, if you follow me on any platform, go follow Mike Todd too, because I couldn't lead people to a better example. And the reason why is because you are, you're all so hot, you're humble, open, you're transparent,
Starting point is 00:24:49 you tell people how it is, you're vulnerable, and that's what changes people. You let people in, you don't just say, oh yeah, here's that one word answer that sounds really good. This is actually how you have to go through it, what you might have to go through to get to this, what God is actually saying. And so just thank you. Thank you so much for the leader that you are, for the words that you give,
Starting point is 00:25:09 for this book that you wrote, for the time that you spend, and to everyone at your church, so Natalie, Christian and I couldn't be more grateful for just the movement that y'all have started, and just the way that y'all lead by such a godly example. So Mike, we couldn't love you more. You're awesome. Oh man, it's our pleasure. And you guys are so great. And we just getting started.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That's right. I told you when we were in Colorado, we might have to go on tour together. Like let's do it. Would not be ready for Mike Todd and Sadie Roberts on every college campus in America. What are you talking about? That's right. Let's go. They're not ready. But maybe they are. Let us know. They're not ready, but maybe they are. Let us know. Maybe they are. Once Aunty Rhona gets out of here, then we can make some plans and make some stuff happening.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Thank you for this opportunity, Sarah. Aunty Rhona. Yes, he's trifling. I can't stand her. Thank you guys so much. Thank you so much. Wow, fam, we already got so good advice on this. Some great advice. My dad just brought it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 He brought it. He always brings it. He always brings it. He brought it for our relationship too, I can't lie. No, yeah. That was good advice. We're going to be soaking on that for a while. Forever.
Starting point is 00:26:25 But we're really excited because you all sent in some really good DMs to, well, that's good. Hi, Cassie this week. So we're gonna talk about good and bad relationship advice. You ready, babe? Let's do it. All right, so the first question was,
Starting point is 00:26:38 or the first piece of advice, don't ever enter a relationship with someone simply because you just want a relationship with someone. That's great advice. I mean, sometimes, you know, we can get desperate because we don't want to be single and we want to be in a relationship, but it never works out because the thing is, if you do that, you'll end up single again and then you'll be heart working and that's just, that's just tough. And you want to make sure that you date with intention and not just dating because you just like the idea of having a boyfriend or want somebody to post pictures with because
Starting point is 00:27:09 that's just not what a relationship is all about. Yeah. And also, if you get into a relationship just simply because you want to get into a relationship, you're not really considering the other person. So I think that that is good advice. Good stuff. All right. Here we, I love this.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Baying bay. If they don't pray. That is hilarious. And advice. Good stuff. All right, here we, I love this. Bay-ing-bay if they don't pray. That is hilarious. And true. And true, that is so true. Yeah, we need praying couples. We need couples on their knees. We really do. And the thing is, it's not just about,
Starting point is 00:27:36 like, oh, does he pray because you want him to be like, a Christian person or you want her to be like a Christian. Woman, prayer is like Necessary is a necessity for our faith and for our life and Our first answer and when you're thinking about dating somebody You're not just dating to find this like extra perfect person or this list You're dating somebody to find a partner in life and you want your partner to be somebody that's gonna pray with you It's gonna be there for you that when they don't know what to say They know to bring it to the Lord and that's so important and so beneficial in life. Yeah, definitely
Starting point is 00:28:11 A day that prays and a day that bears fruit Oh show Okay, the next one it says girl friends before your boyfriend I want to talk about this because I actually I think at times this is good advice, but I think it turns into bad advice. I think it can definitely be bad advice at different times, and this is why I say that. I think that your girlfriends, if you have a bunch of girlfriends or guyfriends, yes, when you're single, like those are your people, that's your person, when you first get into a relationship with a guy, yes, keep your girlfriends, keep your girlfriends. When you're in high school, yes, girlfriends before
Starting point is 00:28:47 boyfriend's guys before the girl, but then it comes a point where you know you're about to marry someone or you know you're working towards engagement or you start having those conversations and that has to be a point where all of a sudden that person becomes your person. And now you start to put them before, maybe some of your friends, not in a bad way, not in a me way, because you still love your friends,
Starting point is 00:29:11 but you have to shift your attention and your focus towards what this relationship is and where it's going. You know, there's a seriousness to it. And I think for me, I mean, I have the best friends in the world, the best girlfriends, and they were always before any guy, but then when I have the best friends in the world, the best girlfriends and they were always before any guy, but then when I knew I was gonna marry Christian Switch and Christian became my priority and
Starting point is 00:29:31 It has to because he's the one that I was marrying and he's when I'm gonna spend the rest of my life with and those girls Or you're gonna be by my side, but Christians my husband and so I think that there's a point in a relationship When marriage starts getting talked about that, that person has to become your priority. And I think you can handle that well with your friends, even though it's a hard thing to navigate by just affirming them and reassuring them that you love them. There's nothing wrong in your relationship, but this person, you're going to marry, you know? That's really good advice.
Starting point is 00:30:03 All right. Now, this is kind of like with that, but in a different thing, it says put your relationship with God first. That goes for any stage of relationship. I know that that's something that that me and Sadie talk about all the time. You know, we talked about the trying and you got to the top of the triangle. And then we're like the lower angles of the triangle. And we're always you know, trying to keep our eyes focused above before we look at each other. And that goes just with love.
Starting point is 00:30:28 We are able to love one another the best way possible when we first turn to God and when we first seek Him. So I think that that is a great advice. I think you're so right, maybe yes. Like really should with God always, always, always first. That's different than a friend. Like God has to be first. All right, here's the last piece of advice
Starting point is 00:30:47 we'll talk about, saying the relationship because it might work out. That is what I'm saying. I wanna say bad advice. I mean, unless you're married, yes, but if you're dating, you know, here's the thing, like someone shows you who they are over and over and over again, like it's time to get out.
Starting point is 00:31:01 It may not be the right relationship to the stand. You stand in the right relationship, you know, with Christian may not be the right relation to the stand. You stand the right relationship. You know, with Christian and I, I knew he was the one. Were there hiccups? Yes, were there arguments? Yes. But it wasn't detrimental to me knowing that he's the right one. Not just because I'm like, all the signs point to you.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I know, but because he had shown me his character, I knew I loved him, and that's the person who just spent the rest of my life. So when someone shows you their character, you know who they truly are and then maybe you have a mess up Yes, stay but if somebody like has shown you who they are and it has not any of the characters that you want and Continue to do something that is not what you feel comfortable with or not what you want in a relationship get out Run out run out run run for it's run well this is fun thanks babe for all of your wisdom and thank you all
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