WHOA That's Good Podcast - Why I Talk About My Abortion | Sadie Robertson Huff | Al & Lisa Robertson

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Sadie's aunt and uncle Lisa & Alan Robertson (host of the “Unashamed with the Robertson Family" podcast) get very honest about their past wrongs, what drew them to Christ and to each other, and why they will never stop sharing their stories to encourage others to find redemption and forgiveness in Jesus. Lisa talks about the abortion she had when she was 16 years old and how she's turned her grief and regret into ministry with women who have had similar experiences. Al shares his prodigal son story and Sadie marvels at the power of confession and realizing you're not the only one — there's freedom in acknowledging past wrongs! You won't want to miss a minute of this family conversation. https://www.trymiracle.com/whoa — Get 40% off + 3 FREE towels with code WHOA at checkout! https://preborn.com/sadie — Visit the website or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate now. https://madrabbit.com/whoa25 — Get 25% off when you use promo code WHOA25! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I hope you're having a great week, but per usual, it is about to get so much better because I have two people in the house today who happen to be related to me, but are some of the coolest, most amazing, inspiring, and hilarious people ever. I have my uncle Alan and Aunt Lisa on the podcast. Aunt Lisa, this is your second time. Yep. Alan, this is your first time. The maiden voyage, here I am.

So let's go, let's go. I love your new set, it's amazing. I know, it's pretty legit, not gonna lie. So, you know, Alan, you lead on a shame podcast and well, that's good here. And we are always back and forth on the charts. You know, y'all are my main competition. That's why we love having you on our podcast

because then we pass you in the ratings. That week. Because of that week. Maybe they'll have it to me this week. Maybe that's right. Maybe we'll puff it. I love it. Well, everyone gets asked this who comes on the podcast,

and I wasn't going to do it to y'all because you've been on, but since you're on for the first time, I'm just going to hit you, because you probably don't see this coming, because I doubt you listened to my podcast, and I'm not offended by that but this is just gonna come out of left field. Alan, what is the best piece of advice you've ever been given? Best piece of advice I've ever been given is I need to listen to Sadie's

podcast. Word. Because you're right I haven't. Probably the one that sticks out the most, Sadie, is never compliment bad cooking. Because if you do, you'll eat it the rest of your life. That's good. That's what dad told us. That's actually good advice. Now I found out later, you can be sensitive, you can be supportive, you can be, this tastes funny.

You don't have to be ugly about it, but it was actually great advice because I was a great cook. But if you say it's good and it's not, Then you're stuck. You're stuck, that's where you're gonna be. That is actually so true. You don't get this size, Sadie,

by not adhering to cooking advice when you're young. That's where you're going to be. That is actually so true. You don't get this side of Sadie by not, you know, adhering to cooking advice when you're young. So I did not. Alan has had some recent, I mean, Memo K is pretty brutal with her comments to you lately. Well, what she said, and again, I give her a little bit of a pass because, you know, she's been having some health issues. So for a while she was on some weird meds, but she never quite went this far. She said, she told me, she said, I thought that when you got cancer

that you lost weight and got thin. And so I assumed she was talking about Lisa, cause Lisa had cancer. And I said, well, sometimes you do mom. She said, well, why are you not skinny? And I was like, well, I don't have cancer mom, as far as I know, number one, but two, thank you for pointing out that I'm fat.

The woman that birthed you. It's so brutal. We are one, but that doesn't mean that my cancer transfers over to him. And she went, oh yeah, that's right, it's Lisa that has cancer. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you're right.

But then she didn't say, and I think you look great. I's Lisa that has cancer. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you're right. I cannot. But then she didn't say, and I think you look great. I mean, just didn't even drop me a crumb. Just like, okay, I got it. Oh my gosh, our family is so brutal, but you gotta love it. Like, you know, it's- It was like at your dad's-

Oh, his roast. His roast. Yeah. And I got him pretty good on his past hairdos. That was so good. And then he ripped me on being fat. So it was really, roast. Yeah. And I got him pretty good on his past hairdos. That was so good. And then he ripped me on being fat. So it was really, but we were so much alike and people were like worried.

In fact, Bella, bless her heart, she got worried. She even got him and had to give me a little positive shout out. She was just so afraid I was gonna be hurt. I said, Bella, I taught him how to do it. It's okay. It's true. I mean, he gets it from me. It's true.

So it's really okay. That is so true. Our family is definitely like, if you can do shit, you got to take it. That's it. And dad's roast. So when my dad turned 50, my mom threw him like a big roast because dad roasts everyone. But also like, he does like getting roasted, but when he's roasted, he turns the fire up. Like you're getting it double. And he gets to go last. And he gets to go last. And he gets to go last.

Cause it's his roast. And he did, he was masterful. I was impressed. It was masterful, it was really impressive. Well, you came out and it was hilarious. Alan starts roasting all of dad's hairstyles every year. Cause I had a PowerPoint set up with all the different eras. We have to put the pictures on YouTube.

Yeah, you gotta show that. For sure. It's so good. We'll put it. And then at the end dad comes up and I mean, it was a roast, it was a Yeah, you gotta show that. For sure. It's so good. We'll put it. And then at the end, dad comes up and I mean, it was a roast. It was a roast, but it was hilarious. But no, that is hilarious.

But I'm okay, oh my gosh. But to your advice, a lot of people come in here, they give good advice, but that's actually very practical advice, it's so true. Because I actually know someone, it's like some older people in my life, and one time they told one of their friends that they love a certain pie that they make,

but they didn't really like it. But they just said that. And every single year for the holidays, that person makes them the pie because they think it's their favorite, but they really don't even like it. That's what happens when you compliment that. It's really not fair to the person cooking the bad food.

It's not fair. Because they think they're doing well. So you just had to find a nice way, you know, to tell them that, I mean, yeah, it's, it's okay. But, you know, which is what we do. Do you? Yeah, but I got in trouble for that one time. What was that?

Somebody asked me if I liked their hairdo. At church. And I said, well. And I was the preacher back then. So they're asking the preacher's wife. And you know, I was like, well, if you like it, then I'm happy for you, but it's just not my style. Which is a nice way.

That's a nice way to say it. Is that not, I mean, should I just lie and say, oh yeah, love it, great, I'm going out tomorrow and getting one? No, that's not what I should say. So classic church, so the husband calls me. My wife is so upset about something your wife said. And I said, Lisa?

You know, it's like something Lisa said. And he's like, yeah. And I said, well, what was it? She said she didn't like her hair. And I said, she just walked up and said, I don't like her hair? Yeah. Of course, you know, this is what happens over time. So I'm like, babe, what did you say about this person's hair?

And then she told me and I was like, oh, good grief. Well, she asked. Okay, this is hilarious. Cause like we don't get to sit and talk all the time, which is really sad cause we live right beside each other. And I literally need to walk over and talk to y'all. But what's crazy is like, I see so much of myself in y'all right now.

I'm like, this is why I am the way that I am. This is a Robertson family. Because literally last week I was sitting with some of my right now. I'm like, this is why I am the way that I am. This is a Robertson family. Because literally last week, I was sitting with some of my best friends. They were like the girls I live with in Nashville. And they were telling all these stories about me being the honest friend.

They're like, we need you back in our life. Cause like, you would tell us when we need to shave our mustache. And like, when we need to, I was like, well, yeah. And they were laughing thinking that was so funny that I would do that. And I'm like, but are you grateful? Do you look better?

Yeah, exactly. And so it's funny, but I remember when somebody one time asked me if I think that they sing good, they're like, do you think I have a good voice? And I said, well, is that well? And I said, I mean, I wouldn't try out for American Idol if I were you, but if like you sing at church, then yes. And it's so funny because like, in my mind,

cause I'm like, you're good for like church choir, but like don't try out for American Idol. And I said that because I just remember back as a kid, when Simon Cowell was on American Idol, did y'all used to watch him? Okay, he was brutal, right? And they would always say, who told you you were good? Like, who did this to you?

Because these people would come in, they'd be horrible, and then they would get embarrassed on national TV, and then they'd be like, all my friends told me I was so good, all my family. And so when this person said to me like, am I good? I was like, oh no, she's gonna try out for American Idol. I have to tell her. I have to be the one. She's gonna get on there and they're me like, am I good? I was like, oh no, she's gonna try out for American Idol. I have to tell her. I have to be the one.

She's gonna get on there and they're gonna say, who told you you were good? Well, my friend Sadie told me that I had a great voice. Exactly. So Sadie said, so let me give you the second half of the best advice I ever got since we went here. I just thought of it. One of my professors in college told me,

don't ask the question if you can't stand the answer. That's true. That is another great piece of advice. So if someone asks you something like that, and what are you supposed to do? Are you gonna be honest? Are you gonna lie? That's that, we just watched that movie when he says,

you can't handle the truth. And it's like, that's true. If you ask the question, you gotta be able to take the honest response, which I really think, I'm so grateful our family is the way that we are. And I think that's kind of secret sauce. It's like being able to laugh at yourself and being honest with each other. And I think that's something that sadly the world is missing because people are so sensitive. You know, like people can't handle the truth literally because people are too easily offended.

And I think that's what keeps people from being honest about important things too in life because you're so scared of how people are too easily offended. And I think that's what keeps people from being honest about important things too in life, because you're so scared of how people are gonna react. The internet's gonna react, all the stuff. Speaking of being unashamed, that's kinda y'all's thing. Don't be ashamed of the things that are true, the gospel. Which I think is pretty cool. And now we add to it that the reason we can be

unashamed of the gospel is because Hebrews 2.11, he's unashamed of us. That's good, that's cool. And that's why he calls us brothers and sisters. And you just said that a minute ago, made me think about the show, cause you were a teenager when we first started doing the little duck show now as we call it.

And so you grew up in that, but really the whole show, the comedic part of the whole show was that. That we could like, whatever was going on, some crazy setup right here in this warehouse, that at the end of the day, we were all still family, we loved each other. I mean, we never let those things become bigger than they should have been.

That's right, that's good. Oh man, well I'm excited to dive into a full conversation and we going to talk about you having cancer and overcoming it and all the things. But first, let's just back all the way up. Guys, you've kind of given some Easter eggs to some of the ideas that you are a pastor, pastor is why, overcoming cancer. But how did you guys meet? How did y'all's relationship start? How did y'all's relationship start? Friends, it is summertime and the Louisiana heat struggle is so real. Staying cool in these summer months can be such a challenge, especially when it's time for bed. Your nighttime temperature can have a huge impact on the quality of your sleep, so I'm

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She was a stalker. Yeah. She was a stalker. I'll just throw that in. So are you going to do it or do you want me to do it? No, no, you can do it. You can do it. Just throw that out there.

That's so real. So I was in the sixth grade and he was in the eighth grade. Wow. And it was right when they just moved to the river. And so he came to my school as a new student. And of course I saw him and then your dad, who was Jess at the time. Who would have been a kindergartner or first grader?

Yeah, probably. So that's how young he was. And then Jace, who was then Jason, everybody's names have changed. Yeah, and Alan, but now he's Al, so everybody's got different names. But anyway, he came to my school and I saw him. And I just, I mean, you know, I followed him every day

at recess. I really was a stalker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But what I tell him is I said, when you see a good thing, you go for it, you know?

Right. The problem was he never noticed me. Oh, day. Because I was two years younger. I was kind of a big deal back then, Sadie. In eighth grade, I was Mr. Pinecrest. He peaked in the eighth grade. Wait, wasn't Dad Mr. Pinecrest too?

He was. Y'all were owning it. You know who wasn't Mr. Pinecrest? Jace. Jace. Yeah, we discussed this on the podcast recently. So me, I was, Willie was, Jeff was, no Jace. Just saying, just throwing that out there. Well, have you guys heard that someone has said before

that the only difference between like a stalker and the person you're gonna marry is if you like them back. Because most of the people appear to be stalkerish, but if you like them back, no problem. If you don't like them back, stalker. Then it gets crazy. That's exactly right. So you're two grades younger, you notice him, but you don't notice her because you're Mr. Pinecrest driving.

She was coffee and young. Yeah. So how'd it change? Well, so, you know, out there where we lived, so we went from kindergarten to the eighth grade at one school, ninth grade at another school, and then 10th, 11th, and 12th at West Monroe High. It's kind of a stair-stepper back in those days. And so the next time that I saw him, even though we only lived five miles apart, the next time that I saw him, I was in the 10th grade, and he was in the 12th grade.

And, you know, so now I'm the new student at school. But, you know, a long time ago, we used to go around and around at McDonald's. That's how we met people, you know, on Friday and Saturday nights. Same one on Thomas Road that's here. But back in those days, that was it. That was the only, you know, like fast food place. There was that, Bonanza.

And so everybody in high school just drove around that parking lot all at different points in the night That's how that was our connecting place. And then it was Macmillan Mall. So there was a mall there so sometimes people would be in the mall parking lot, but So anyway, so I saw him one night and he looked in my in my window You know and he looks at me and he goes Whoa, and he looks at me and he goes,

whoa, and so I tell people that that is redneck for you've changed, wow, you've changed, you know, you've grown up. That's what means you've filled out. You've filled out, that's right. I mean, you know, in a good way. Because, and here's why I say that, when you're in the sixth grade, I had big red glasses. I had braces.

I was as tall as I am now and I weighed 75 pounds, you know? But by the time I got to the 10th grade, I had contacts. I didn't have braces. And, you know, I weighed maybe 100 pounds by then. And so I had filled out, you know. You had curves and all the right places, not big curves. Back in those days, we would have said

if she were a president, she would have been Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln, no. That's the way we say that. That is so cheap. This is early 80s. This is early 80s. No one bring that one back. That's what we say. That's the word we say. That is so cheap. This is the only, this is the only answer. That's the word we say.

No one brings that one back. That's not gonna work for you. Sometimes we give relationship advice, that's not it. Well, that is so funny because, oh gosh, just thinking about that, because Two Mama, you know, Two Mama's been on the podcast startups, and she got like, I think her senior year one, like most beautiful, and she always says,

no, that should have been most improved. People were just surprised because she describes herself very similarly with the glasses and the braces and about 75 pounds. And then all of a sudden it's like, whoa, actually you turned out good. Yeah, that's right. Most improved. Yeah, most improved. So he looks in there, he says, whoa.

And I asked her out. He asked me out that night, yeah. Yeah, and I said, I said, when we gonna go out? And she said, well, whenever you ask me. And I didn't know that she had been aware of me from way back years earlier. And so she's like, well, yeah.

I said, well, meet me here tomorrow night. So at this time, I have to go ahead and tell you, I was not, I was a prodigal. I was in church, I looked like I had it on straight, which I call myself a double secret agent. Cause I knew the songs, I'm on the third row, the people that, you know, the little old ladies in church loved me cause I was just such a cute kid

and you know, pinched my cheek, but I was not a good person. I was living a double life. So I didn't have any character or integrity back then. And so I had her meet me at McDonald's the next night, wasn't it? And so I didn't go get her, pick her up. Just terrible. Everything I looked back, everything I did wrong. First strike with my mother. First strike. I had many strikes. We went way past three. But anyway- You struck out quite a few times. So I show up with two of her cousins in tow, two of her male cousins that are friends of mine,

but we like to drink together and all that. So we pick her up at McDonald's and after a long night of that kind of stuff, and Lisa had no idea, and she was a pretty good girl at this point. So once now I've added corruptor of young women into my stash of bad behavior. And I wind up, they wind up at a strip club,

I'm in the car passed out and Lisa's there and she's 15 years old. You know, and so that was our first date. So you think it would go up, but it continued to spiral, right? Yeah, I'm one of those people, there's a saying out there that is, You'd think it would go up, but it continued to spiral. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I'm one of those people, there's a saying out there that is it's best to learn from other people's mistakes.

But I'm not that person. I have to make the mistake myself. So I went back for second and third and fourth. Wow. And so we were together a few months and then I graduated And like I said, my life was out of control Lisa and I had an immoral relationship which I introduced her to that as well and then I just left I mean I just I took off from New Orleans dad had confronted me about my lifestyle and at that time

I was I just turned 17, I graduated high school and I was really, had a lot of anger toward dad and it was just old stuff. But it was me, I mean, it wasn't him. He had changed his life, he was doing great. Jace and I fought like cats and dogs because he knew the life I was living. He tried to keep ratting me out to my parents,

you know, and to everybody else. And nobody would listen to him because I was such a good liar. Jace the Rat. So it's funny now that we're so close. But, and so, you know, I just left her. I broke her heart. I dumped her and, you know, just left her here

in Westland Road. And she was still in high school, obviously. And then I was gone. And I just went off down there to supposedly define myself and to work, but you know, it was just to live a worse lifestyle. So it just kind of went down from there. Well, and to like fill in the gap for people listening, because so many people have seen the blind now.

Al is the first son. So the little kid you see in the movie that's helping them, okay, was you. And I think, you know, for people making that connection, you have been through so much. Like you had seen a lot of hard things. And then, you know, Pepofil gave his life to God. They're going to church, but still, like, there's a lot of stuff there. So when Pebbleville confronted you, do you think you held resentment to him? Like, who are you to confront me when you live this life? You nailed it, Sadie. Because in my mind, like, I was so thrilled when he came to

Christ. I mean, like, because all of a sudden our lives were finally better. But when I started messing up myself, it was just a reminder. What's amazing is I was doing exactly what he was doing to mom, like in the movie, projecting all of his lifestyle onto her. Cause in the movie he's like, and he did it, I remember it, you know, being a kid.

He would like, he was being unfaithful, so he a kid. He was being unfaithful, so he would always accuse her of being unfaithful. It's just like everything he and Satan had going on, he projected that to other people. And that's exactly what I was doing back to him. Now I wasn't bold enough to be very vocal about it, because I was kind of still afraid of him, but inside that's what I felt.

And you're right, I felt, then I was resentful, but mom had depended on me to help take care of Jason and Willie. And you know, here I was now, that's why they just couldn't believe I had gone this bad. Wow. Because you know, I had been so good up until this. Because you had been so good.

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So you dated other people, continued down a dark lifestyle. What'd your life look like? Well, I was looking for love in all the wrong places. That was a song back whenever I was that age. To me, whenever I gave myself to Alan sexually, and I was a little naive, but I thought that meant we'd be together forever,

because it was something special that I gave to him. But that's not how it went. So after six months, he leaves, and I just spiral completely out of control. I'm drinking, drugging, sleeping around with guys, driving to places and not knowing how I got there when I woke up the next day. I mean, just very scary stuff being a mom of girls,

knowing all the things that could have happened to me, even things that may have happened to me, even things that may have happened to me that I have no idea that they happened. So that went on for two years until he came back. But during that two year period is whenever, I found out I was pregnant. I was 16 years old. I found out I was pregnant. I was 16 years old.

And so I really, I really didn't go to church except for, you know, like Easter, Christmas, you know, all of those celebratory times, you know. You didn't have a relationship with Christ. I had nothing, you know. And so I really didn't feel like I should go to somebody at church and talk to them about my issue, or my problem is what I would have said.

And so really the only people I had to talk to were my parents and my mom, the words that she said to me was, she said, you just need to get an abortion. Well, I said, I don't know what that is. Nobody I'd ever known had done that before. And so she told me, she said, well, what's in your body right now is just a glob of tissue.

And all they're gonna do is go in there and take that glob of tissue out. But I think back, and even at 16, I had the thought, hmm, well, I wonder when it becomes a baby. If it's just a glob of tissue now, so how long does it take? You know? So it was just that little idea in there that something just didn't add up. But so I said, okay, and that kind of fixed my problem because the guy that I was dating, I didn't care for anyway.

And in the back of my mind, and this is terrible because I mean, this is a life that was taken, but in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, well, what if Alan comes back? He's not gonna want me with a baby, you know? But that's just where I was. That's real, yeah you know And so but that's just where I was. Yeah, that's right. That's that's where I was and so So I told her I said, okay, I'll go do it. So the next day, you know, I went and done that out I went to the clinic and had that done and

And it was a terrible time. I mean the day that I went was it was the coldest, darkest, loneliest place that somebody could ever go. And she was by herself. And it's almost like you know, like when you walk in you feel death, you know? Yeah. And so I had it done that day and you know they tell you that, so there's three things that they told me that day. One was that it was a glob of tissue, which we know they knew.

They're medical professionals. They knew that was a lie. The next thing they tell you is that, you know, the next, you know, few days you'll be sore, just take it easy, but you'll be back to normal, you know, before too long, and, you know, you'll have nothing will be wrong with you. You'll be perfectly fine. And that wasn't true because I had Anna at nine and a half weeks early. She was a pound and 15 ounces when she was born. 12 inches long. I had Alex and she almost came four months early. Wow. But they were able to put me on bed rest so I kept her. And then I

miscarried with the third one. And so something, they did something that day. So that's not true, you know. So the third lie, and that's what I say, these are all lies that they knew, but you know, they tell them every day, it's just their job. And so the third one that they told me was that after you leave here today, just forget this ever happened. Just go on, live your life, forget this day, and you'll be okay. But again, I don't think that's possible for you to not remember that you've taken a life, you know? And at the time, you know, maybe I didn't feel as though that I was taking a life because they had all

said, this is just a glob of tissue. But I think there was something in the back of my mind that said, no, something's not right about what they're telling you. And it's true because it's one of the most regretful things that I'd ever done. But like you, we serve an amazing God who can take that guilt and that shame and he put it on the cross and I no longer suffer with that anymore. I still have regret because I have two children,

I have six grandchildren, seven if I count Joey now that Carly's married. But you just think about that, you had another child, more grandchildren, just somebody to add to the family. And for me to say, well, maybe Alan wouldn't date me whenever he came back, I mean, that's not a fair statement, because then I'm saying what he would do, and I don't even know what he came back. I mean, that's not a fair statement, you know?

Because then I'm saying what he would do and I don't even know what he would do. Whenever he came back, he was a new creature. So who knows what he would have done. What's amazing is because of Lisa being honest about her past and being a teenager and struggling, she now, for the last 10 years, we've been traveling all around the country.

Speaking on behalf of pro-life causes and a lot of pregnancy centers. And you wouldn't believe the post-abortive women that have not been able to share that and are carrying that burden. And yet when they hear Lisa share it, because they know her from the show or whatever, they just collapse into her arms.

I mean, like we've been signing books and lines and people just come up and you just have to stop everything and take a minute because someone is pouring their heart out. So you're seeing an opportunity to share Christ with people, which has been great. I got my first tattoo when I was like 18, I believe, and I had thought about it for a really long time. My parents, you know, told me to think about it, I think for a year. So I thought about it at least for a year and got it. And I was so nervous all the things, but keeping my tattoos looking their best is definitely

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for the listeners, they don't know the end of the story and know what you do now. And I'm sitting here thinking, wow, how amazing that she's been able to like use one of the coldest, darkest days of your life to now help other people, which is the story of the gospel, like the darkest day in history, but then, you know, Christ resurrected and then that made that dark day no longer the darkest day, but like a good Friday. So it's like, yes, that is, this is a different story as far as you do have regret for it.

It's sad, but God has also redeemed so much in your heart and in your life and in your story. And now you get to go out and help other women find that same redemption story through the gospel. And it's so crazy because I was at a retreat for women a couple of years ago. It was actually right after I had honey and I was like going to the retreat, not speaking out.

I was just attending and one of the things we did, which I thought was such an amazing thing that they like allowed for us to do. So there was equal amount of like volunteers helping with the retreat as people go into the retreat. So everyone had like somebody to like kind of help them walk through it. So all of the people going,

we kind of filled out a list of things that we have done in our life. Like it was anonymous. Like no one knew whose paper it was whose. And it had all these different things that people might have hidden. So you circled the hidden sin that you've had, or maybe people know about it,

but still something you went through. And then the volunteers all picked up the papers. So then they did this thing where they were like, okay, whatever it was, listen. And then the volunteers would stand up on behalf of if their paper said it or not. But you didn't know who did it. So it was nice because it wasn't like singling someone out.

You weren't having to like carry the shame of it. You knew these people were standing on behalf of someone in the room. When they said abortion, it was like half the room stood up. And then because like someone stood on their behalf, the next day people started sharing that they were the ones that had the abortion.

And like they were saying they never shared it with anyone before, but it gave them the courage when they saw how many other people in the room had. And then it was like, person after person, like I've never shared this, I've never shared this. That was the first time I ever circled it on a page. Like, this is the first time ever. And even just like the freedom that came

from not keeping it in the dark anymore was just like amazing to sit in that room with those women who were sharing and like connecting with one another and crying with each other and hugging each other, holding each other, because it is hard, you know, it's so hard. But then to be like, okay, God, what Jesus did on the cross is big enough for even this, and he's going to redeem this. And so I just love that you share your story, because even you saying like, this is just honest, this is how I felt,

is exactly how so many people feel. Like, what if the person won't stay with them anymore? What if they won't get married? What if, or their parents said, you should do this. You should fix the problem. Or wise counsel in your life is saying, this is the best route to go, but something in you is going. I don't think so, you know? And so I just am so thankful for how you share your story and now how you advocate for it.

And I think a lot of it is just people don't know. People aren't educated as much. And that's why one of our sponsors is like a Pro Life and it's Every Life and it's so cool because whenever it says when people hear the heartbeat for the first time, they're like twice as likely to make the decision to keep the baby. Just because when you know it's life, you know, it's not just a glob of tissue. It's amazing how that shifts in your mind. So thank you. I do a subscription to every life. Thank you, that's awesome.

So thank you for sharing that part of your story. So when you came back into her life, or I guess back home, were you thinking about her? Like how did y'all get reconnected? Yeah, so I was in New Orleans and while her life was spinning out of control here in our community, I was spinning out of control down there. And I had a massive altercation.

I was seeing a woman who was married and she was lying about that. I was lying about how old I was. Everybody thought I was 21, because that's what I told them. But I was actually only 18. And so it just, everything was built on lies. And finally one day her husband tried to separate my head

from the rest of my body. And out of that, out of my survival of this major altercation, I thought, I just sat there, I was in New Orleans, I was actually in Kenner, which is outside, and I just sat there on that curb and thought, you know, if I stay here, I'm gonna die. Because it's just, you know, it provided me a moment. And it's just, you know, like a lot of things that,

where you have a experience where you almost die, you do some soul searching. And that's what I did that day. And a police officer sat down next to me and was so kind, everybody else was not kind, but he was, and helped me through that moment. And he guided me back to here and just made such a difference in my life.

I can't wait to meet him in heaven and tell him how- That's cool. And say, you know, that word you gave me, that you made the most of every opportunity. Wow. And this is what it says in the scripture. Because that day you had an 18 year old that was seeking and you provided a pathway.

That's cool. So you never know. And anyway, when I got back home, I decided, I went out, so mom and dad just totally embraced me. You know, I had a speech prepared, just like the Luke 15 kid, you know, the prodigal. And I never even got to give it. You know, they were just like, welcome.

Dad's line was, hey, we got duck calls to bill. And so I always say that that night we killed the fattened catfish and had a celebration. It's awesome. Because a lost son had come home. And so it was really great. And so I was just like in this honeymoon Christ period where it was just me and the Lord.

And I was going to school at ULM and I was working for dad. And I decided I was just not going to date because me and women did not, I mean, it was me, I was working for dad, and I decided I was just not gonna date because me and women did not, I mean, it was me, I was the problem, but I just thought, you know what, Lord, you were single, Paul was single, I'm just gonna go that route. That lasted about a month,

and I realized I didn't have that gift. And so, but I thought about Lisa because I always knew, even though I treated her so badly, she really loved me, she really loved me. She cared about me. I never forgot that. And girlfriends in between, or whatever her life had become, I knew that she was crazy

about me. And so I thought, well, if I can get her to Christ, like I've been brought to Christ, then this is a woman I can build a life with. And so I called her up up and literally out of nowhere, I mean we had not talked in two years. And so I called her up and I said, hey I'm back. And she said, oh I knew, I heard. Because we're all in small town.

And I said, well I heard you're dating some guy. And she said, yeah it's serious. I mean we're talking about getting married. She's still in high school. But we're talking about getting married when I get old. I was a senior, yeah. Were you being serious or did you just want him to know? Yeah, no I was serious. Oh talking about getting married. She's still in high school. But she's like, we're talking about getting married when I get married. I was a senior, yeah. Were you being serious or did you just want him to know? Yeah, no, I was serious.

Oh, you were for real. And she was trying to like... I was trying to make him jealous too. Yeah, and I said, yeah, really? I said, hmm. And I was like, well, you want to go out Friday? And I said, absolutely. We decided to do something this summer that was really good for us but a little bit hard.

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I mean, dropped a mic. That was it. So I went and picked her up. Her parents hated me because I treated her so badly and I get it. So I was humble and you know apologetic about my former life because now I was a son of God. Wow. And so that first night we talked about our lives and I told her about what had happened to me and how I changed and that I was really looking for somebody that I could see and but I no sex, no drinking, no drugging. I was through with all that.

And of course, she was thrilled. Because it was like, finally, you know. And so we were gonna, we started, you know, it didn't take long, we started talking about getting married. We were gonna get married in a year. And then our biology began to overtake our theology. That's a good word. That's hilarious.

And so we kept,ening down and finally one Friday night in November, I said, let's do it next Friday. And she looked kind of funny and she said, do what? I said, let's get married. Wow. And she was like, next week? And I said, because this is like a Friday night. I said, yeah, we don't need to do a big wedding

and all that stuff, you know, we hate all that. She's like, we hate all that. You got a rat in your pocket, buddy? So she's like, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, I'm in, you know? And so I remember me and mom went down, like the next day or that Monday, and went to one of the jewelry stores at the mall and found this like the cheapest I could possibly afford. I had to finance.

It was like $200 probably for the whole setup and for a wedding ring and engagement ring and of course her mom and dad were to live it again you know because it's like what in the world you know what are y'all doing you're crazy and again I understand it but we did. And they weren't gonna come originally, and then they did. They had said, we don't agree with this, and no, we're not gonna come to the wedding. And so Lisa wound up coming out,

we lived down the river, and I lived out there as well. And so she wound up spending most of that week before we got married living out there with my grandparents. At Granny and Paul's. Really? Granny and Paul's right next door. Wow. And so she wound up spending most of that week before we got married, living out there with my grandparents. At Granny and Paul. Really? Granny and Paul is right next door. Wow. And so she was just part of the little family.

And of course they had taken her car back cause it was their car that had bought her. And so she's driving around this big old, huge white Ford LTD we had back in those days. And she had a little job doing something. And so she went in and so she ran out of gas in it and so Paul, my grandpa, he filled it up with gas or put five gallons in. Well, unfortunately it was kerosene that he put into the car and so this was the day before the wedding.

So when we're supposed to go and now her parents, the last day said they were coming, her mom bought her a dress and so now we're going to the wedding. And so we all go to load into that big car that we all would ride to church together. And your dad was there, Jace was there, we're all piling in the car. And we get about two miles up the road and it completely is done.

Because of the kerosene that Paula put in the car. So we're just sitting there. Y'all's life, the whole thing needs to be a movie. Like every one of y'all's stories needs to be a movie. It could be. Every one of y'all's stories need to be a movie. The blinds is the star, honestly. Here comes Paul, who did it. He was in his car.

He had a Ford Fiesta that literally would fit right in between us sitting right here. Oh my gosh. It was literally a tin can. It was so little. It would hold four people. And because gas was so high. Gas was so high back there.

Oh my gosh. So he stops. Gas was so high back there. So he stops by, we all pile in there. We have eight people in a car that holds four people. And we go to my wedding. Oh my God. So you can imagine, so our parents are looking and thinking, this is never gonna work.

This is never gonna work. Which is funny because every one of us were rejected by our in-laws. I was gonna say, this sounds very similar to the mom and dad story. Their story, Jay's got the same thing. I don't know about Jeff, he probably got accepted, but the rest of us were rejected.

Well, cause you were there, weren't you and dad living together? Or, when dad was living with y'all. Yeah. So dad was living with y'all when he asked mom's parents, two mom and two papa, to marry mom and they said no and didn't two papa come to y'all's house? And like, oh yeah.

So they were both there. So look, I pull up. Lisa said, oh yeah. Oh yeah, I pull up and get out of my truck and I start walking by and I thought Willie had left the TV on like really loud in his room. This is my favorite story. Cause it was right next to where we parked the cars.

And so I walk over and open the door to go in to turn his TV off and he is going at it with two mom and two brother. I mean the three of them are, and your mom is on the phone. And so, cause she was at hearty. And so I, and I was like, open the door. And of course everybody looks at me and I was like, whoop, sorry.

And he shut the door. I shut the door and went around. And I went and told Lisa, I said, we got World War III going on in Willie's, right? That is crazy. And yeah, because they were trying to figure out how to go forward with their relationship. You know what's so cool?

It's like, our family stories are so crazy. I love y'all's story, hearing how it started, but then coming to Christ, and it all is really around true radical coming to Christ. And it all is really around like true, radical transformation in Christ. And I had a person come up to me after seeing the blind. And I thought this was so interesting. It's kind of one of those moments where someone

is saying something nice to you, but it comes with something that was kind of rude to you at the same time, but you're like, thank you for that. So she comes up and she's like, I have to say, like before I saw the blind, I just didn't, I didn't really understand you, you know? And I didn't really, I wasn't a fan because I just thought, well, yeah, she's had everything, you know,

handed to her in her life and look at, you know, of course she loves God because her family's perfect. And this is just what she told herself. And she's a mom. And honestly, if I saw her out in public, I would never think that. I would never think she would have thought that of me. And so she's just sharing vulnerably

how she felt about me from afar. And she said, but then I saw the blind and she started crying. She said, I had to tell you, I'm sorry I projected that on you and your family, but it's just very rare where you see someone like Duck Dynasty in a TV show and it seems to be all this thing and it just seems like your family loves God,

loves each other and no problems, but to show the worst part of your family's story, and that's not even all of it, that's Pebble of Phil. You hear y'all's story, you hear my parents' story, you could go through every single person. And I could too, you know? I mean, talk about my high school and it was different than everybody else's,

but there was its own sin problems and craziness. And I think everyone's life is truly marked by a radical transformation that we all had through the gospel and through Jesus. And so I just thought that was really cool for her is truly marked by a radical transformation that we all had through the gospel and through Jesus. And so I just thought that was really cool for her to be like, it was so cool to hear the real story. So like hearing y'all's real story is just so cool

because now you guys are like, well, you already mentioned, like you've pastored a church for so long. You guys are like abortion, like you talk about pro-life and that community and advocates for that. You have a podcast where you preach the gospel. You have kids and grandkids in this legacy, but like all of it that you're doing now

is not because you did it purpose, because you live the other way too. And then you saw the light. I think it's two things. I think one is you're trying to impress upon people. That's why I love that you had us on your podcast. You're trying to impress upon them. That's why I love that you had us on your podcast. You're trying to impress upon them. You don't have to make the same mistakes

that other people make to learn from that. Because what we would much rather is that people make better decisions and don't have to go through that and say, you know, I don't have to carry that pain. And the other thing is you want to offer hope to people who are in bad situations. You just described that situation about our family.

I love, one of the things I love to do when we go and speak, especially marriage stuff, is I love showing a picture. And if I showed it to you, you'd say, oh yeah, I've seen that picture. It's kind of famous now because it was the last night we filmed the show. It was in your mom and dad's living room. And it was kind of a stately picture.

And someone from the crew snapped it. It was the last time we filmed. We were doing the clip show. And it was kind of a stately picture. And someone from the crew snapped it. It was the last time we filmed. We were doing the clip show. And it's beautiful. It just, and when you look at it, you think, oh man, the Robertsons. You know, you're thinking four generations of faith and all these great things.

And then I love popping in the picture right after, which is a 1972 picture of mom and dad. She's pregnant with your dad. And there's Jace there, little kid with a bowl on his head and me, you know, at like seven years old. And I say, that's the same family. But that family in 72 could never even imagine that 2017 family, because at that point, man,

it was up against it, which is the blind. And so I always like to show that to people, because when you're doing a marriage conference or you're doing the speaking out there, you know that someone came there that's in that place. And they're just thinking, you know, their last effort, somebody told me you need to go hear this couple, somebody go see the blind.

And you're trying to give them a glimpse that, look, God can take you to places you can never even imagine going. And so, but to do that, then we have to be honest. For those of us who went through what Lisa and I went through, and look, we struggled in marriage. Everything we just shared with you, we carried that then into our marriage and relationship.

And even though we were both Christians and love God, we still had consequences from some of those behaviors, just like Lisa mentioned, with having physical consequences of caring our children. And so that's what happens. And so we want to tell people, look, it's a life struggle. Right. But then you always want to use that to help other people. But the ultimate example for us is somebody to get it right, love the Lord, and never stray from the path. I mean, stay in His light.

It's so much better there. That's right. You know, that's part of what we try to do. Preach. You can tell that you're a preacher because I love how you preach. I love how you bring the word. I remember growing up at WFR, I just love when you preach.

And so getting to sit here and hear that is like, yes, it's so good. And it's funny you mentioned that about the picture because I remember watching the blind with the whole family and obviously there's a million times where you could get emotional and cry through the whole thing. But I think because I had heard the story so many times,

I wasn't as emotional watching it as I thought I would be until the end when we played all the pictures of our family. Then I started crying because then I just saw the weight that that transformation really had on the world. You know, like, Pebbleville coming to Christ, and MLK forgiving him, I mean, not only changed our family's life,

but so many people around the world's life, just by the story that they've shared, and you guys are doing that too. So we've been kind of laughing because we're at 45 minutes on the clock, and we haven't even gotten to y'all getting married yet. So we're just gonna keep rolling because I think there's a whole nother podcast to be had

because I'm learning personally so much and I think this is just so helpful. And y'all's story, like I've heard it a lot because you guys have shared it at church things. I've personally watched the videos that you guys put out on YouTube, like your I Am Second video that you did, which highly recommend everyone to go watch after this. So I've heard it, I've seen it, but just sitting here and hearing the whole story is amazing.

Plus, we're just all talkers, so we might just talk a lot and that's okay. That's the Robertson trait, you know? That's right. you