WHOA That's Good Podcast - Willie Robertson: Boss Hog, Husband, Dad
Episode Date: March 18, 2020Sadie Robertson welcomes her Dad, WIllie Roberson, onto the podcast. Willie Robertson is best known for his appearances on the reality TV series Duck Dynasty on A&E. Willie shares advice on a variety ...of topics including marriage, business, and faith, which will inspire you and be sure to make you laugh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up, well that's good.
Wednesday, today is going to be awesome because normally I have mom in the house at the
end of the show, but today we have dad in the house for the whole show.
So we get the ball tag himself on the podcast.
So welcome, Willie Robertson.
Hello, Sadie Rob Huff.
Sadie Rob Huff.
Whatever you're going by these days. That's the new name.
Well, thank you for being on the podcast.
You know, we've had it for a few years now
But you're a hard guy to get just kidding only like you have. Yeah, well usually I find that when you want someone on your
Podcast the first thing you need to do is ask
And so since I haven't been asked
I felt it awkward to try to worm my way in on the podcast if I what really wasn't invited
All I know is you call me one time and ask me one silly question
That's the only time. Yeah, that was your feature on the podcast. I was like can I ask you a question? You said hurry. I'm hunting. Oh, yeah
That was a bad time now. We're not hunting so I'm excited. It's an honor to be your guest on your podcast. Hopefully I can
Match up who's your last person had your last person we had on last person?
We had Julie Wilson and she was amazing. You're right for that. We had Beth Moore. So you're really carrying some manly hood to our podcast
Man, I got the best Beth Moore story ever but we'll have a later podcast later.
Podcast all right, so I will treat you like I treat every other guest with the very first question
We ask and that is what's the best piece of advice
that you've ever been given?
Well, that's a great question.
I think I would have to say is give more than you take.
It's good.
That pretty much covers every aspect of life.
If you try to give, always give more than what you take. And so
I think sometimes we get caught in trying to take more. But if you always try to give
more at your job and your marriage, whatever it is, if you're giving more than was asked
and certainly more than you're taking, I just find that that's work for me. I think
that's the one of the secrets like in business is like you just try to help other people.
If I can help you, then it's gonna help me
and it's turned out pretty good.
So good.
I love asking this question
because every time I ask it to people,
it's influential people, right?
And then when they give their advice,
you can always see it bleed through everything that they do.
And so being your daughter, having a up close view
of your life, I can see how you give a lot more
than you take and that's really cool to know that's been
at the forefront of your mind.
Has anyone ever said that before?
No, no one said that.
So, it's not.
It's not.
I'm scared I'd have one that someone else,
because sadly, I'm a little behind on your podcast
as far as listening to them.
So, wow.
Which may be, you see, Rosalind, I didn't know.
So, I just want to make sure I wasn't like,
oh, it's a four time we've heard that one.
Well, here's a good thing and crazy enough.
We've never had anybody repeat something
that somebody else has said, which is unique.
Yeah, because I guess everybody just has different stories,
different people feeding into their life,
but no, that's so good.
And then you kind of mentioned this,
you're like, that goes for business,
that goes for parenting, that goes for being a husband,
giving more than you take.
And I wanted to do something fun on this podcast.
You know, normally I talk about people's books or stories.
And if we did that, we would talk forever.
So I got more specific.
And I wanted to go through just pieces of advice and different areas of your life
that I've really seen you thrive in.
Some learn the hard way, some just like absolutely you're just good at.
And so I wanted to ask you just different piece of advice
and different segments of your life.
And the first one I want to ask you is about your sense of humor.
And this is why when people tell me I'm so much like you,
there's two things that they're normally talking about.
They're like, you have his exact dimple
and you know, you look a lot alike.
And then they say, and you have a sense of humor.
And I think that's a high compliment
because I write things you're hilarious. But what's your best piece of advice And then they say, and you have a sense of humor. And I think that's a high compliment because
I write things you're hilarious.
But what's your best piece of advice on having a good sense of humor?
Oh, man, that's a lot.
And I was thinking, I'm glad you're not overweight.
Because then you would think like,
oh, that's why they're saying that.
Because, well, air go, that's why you asked me about my sense of humor.
So you've always got to be thinking, right?
So pretty much when everyone says something,
I have to fight not thinking the funny thing
about what you're saying.
I don't know if that's advice, but I think the main thing
that I've said this for years,
and we've said this even about our TV show,
was that I try not to take myself so seriously.
Yeah, I feel like you're going to say that.
It keeps coming up over and over.
So what I find really funny is people that do take themselves too seriously.
There's just comedy gold in there because it's so funny because it's funny, but sometimes
I don't think it's funny because they're taking themselves too seriously.
So you can make light of things and I guess growing up, thinking about being funny, I mean,
there's a lot of people in my
family that are funny and some are funny and not trying to be funny. And I don't know, it's how we
dealt with, I think a lot of, you know, shortcomings or pain or stuff that we had in our lives as a family.
And so we found this way to make light and to laugh at anything. And so, and growing up with like with my dad, so Phil is this so serious.
And he does have a funny side for sure.
And I've certainly seen that.
But he comes across so serious.
So it just, it creates a good habitat
for something funny because when there's something serious,
then it can really get funny.
Like when you're not supposed to laugh,
I'll never forget when I was a teenager. I was
in there making mom laugh. And mom was one of the greatest because she would laugh at everything.
And so I was in there working some material and and I remember Phil he's in there watching the
news or whatever he's watching with the weather channel and he screams in there he goes, hey
everybody be quiet in there because we had such a small house and so if you got loud on one side of the house it was like too loud. He said, yeah, you all pipe down
in there. Saturday night lives over and I thought that was the funniest I got
ever. Saturday night, Saturday night lives over. And so I really enjoy watching people
melt down. It just cracks me up and because you know people are like, oh, this is the
worst thing that happened and I guess in America, when I hear these things, I'm like, that's the worst thing that's
happened. And so one of my favorite things, which you're in airports, like I am a lot.
And so I love when there's problems at the airport, which is all the time, I love just watching
people just, just lose their minds. They're melting away. And so I was in Houston one night.
It was storms were happening. Everything's getting away. And so I was in Houston one night. It was storms were happening.
Everything's getting delayed and these people are just,
and I'm just sitting there watching these people in line.
And I never get this lady comes up
and I've got to be on this plane, man.
The plane's not leaving, you know, it could crash, you know.
And so she goes, you don't understand.
And I was waiting for what was gonna come over, Matthew.
You know, I'm having a child. I'm having this. She goes, you don't understand. And I was waiting for what was gonna come out of her mouth. You know, I'm having a child, I'm having this.
She goes, I'm platinum.
She was a platinum adult.
And that's her problem.
Oh, I'm sorry, you're platinum.
Oh, okay, we'll tell the pilots, we'll crank this thing up.
We'll go against every safety thing
that we have because you're platinum.
And so in fact, let's just get you a private plane
to go through because you're platinum. And got to play. In fact, let's just get you a private plane to go through because you're platinum and so on.
I've told you these things a lot.
Or in traffic.
I just watch in people just, you know,
like it's the worst day of their life
because there's someone in front of them
or, you know, the grocery line.
And so when I get in those situations,
and then I just push myself, I got to like,
we are not going to get upset.
I've seen that play out in your life so clearly,
and it's so funny, because like,
your initial thing, don't take yourself too seriously,
don't take situations too seriously.
Robertson family, all does that.
You think like there would be like
something big happening in the family that most families,
it would be really, really hard,
and it's not that it's not hard,
but y'all just always make light or make somebody laugh,
because you're like, we're not gonna just get to say man, we're not gonna say half-set, we're not gonna say in this rut, and I love that about y'all just always make light or make somebody laugh because you're like, we're not just going to say man, we're not going to say it up. So we're not going to say in
this rut. And I love that about y'all. And I learn a lot from y'all in them.
When you got to thank funny, I remember we're doing the TV show and it's so fun being
around people who actually think funny. And so you just start thinking, you know, when
funny people get together, you start thinking funny. It's just, it's funny. And not everybody
has that. Yeah, you just start thinking funny
and how could this be funny and then how can we make this funny?
And you and Uncle Psy would be like, you would be crying
or thinking of things.
And so I'm saying Psy is awesome
because he have to, I don't even know that he realizes
he's being funny, you know.
And there's a fun thing between trying to be funny
and then just being funny. And so, and sometimes people that are trying to be funny and then just being funny.
And so, and sometimes people that are trying to be funny,
they'm like, yeah, okay, bye.
You know, you're not the funniest person out there.
And so, yeah, I just try to find comedy and everything.
And I think it helps in life.
I think it helps you to get through things.
And, you know, it helped me with the show.
I was invited up to a hospital, to see a little girl.
I think she passed away like four
days after. And I had never been that close, but realizing now because the TV show was
invited up. And so I took my head in and I just start bawling crying. So I'm like, oh,
one second, I'm trying to gather myself and realize. But then I realized that girl
wanted to see the person she sees on TV.
She's been seeing people crying for weeks or months, you know, maybe even years.
And so I just had to pull myself together and say, I've got to go in there for her because
I know she wants to see just for a few minutes something fun and something she sees that she
laughs at and all that.
And so it is tough.
And when situations are tough like that and that's where at and all that. And so it is tough. And when situations are tough like that,
and that's where you can have that.
And so I'll go in, I gather myself,
I went back in there and, hey, you know, I'm a duck call.
And so we were gonna be funny.
Then I left the room and then I'll start crying again.
Yeah, then I start bowling around again.
No, I get that, that's so sweet.
I've seen you do that.
That's powerful.
The next piece of advice which shift and gears a little bit.
But I've really seen this a lot in your life
and learned a lot from you, mom, and yours, marriage.
Well, let's talk about marriage advice.
Christian and I just got married
so you can give us your best piece of advice.
That's big.
Also, a lot of people don't know
that you, mom, literally met in like what, fourth grade?
Fourth grade, yeah.
Fourth grade.
And so you've had like kind of a lifelong relationship
on and off, I won't say you dated since fourth grade
But on and off in the fourth grade
Like when we got married not on and off when we were married
There's a couple years. I was gone for a couple years and came back to the house
Yeah, on and off from fourth grade to when she was a senior in high school
So when you proposed we were in the same youth group because she went to the private Christian school.
Yeah.
I was the old public school boy.
So yeah.
I love it.
Yeah, we have known each other pretty much our whole house.
Yeah.
And so now, Y'all been married for, mom said 27, you said 28.
It's 28.
It's terrible.
Most people are like, I asked her why if they don't know the date.
No, not my wife.
She never knows it.
Always off. I have to go look it up or ask someone to know what that is. I know I was trying to get my facts right for the podcast
And I'm like how many years just like 27 is your marketing team facing burnout?
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I think dad thinks 28.
No, I think it's 20. Well, we did some
speeches at the end of last year. And so we were, it was 27. But January, we had another
anniversary. So I'm counting that one. So I'm, I'm 28. That's what it is.
So what's the marriage advice you give, Christian and I? So for younger people, this was a piece
of advice I had gotten in my
premarital counseling. And I think it was really helpful, which is
you're not the other person's parent, so don't act like the parent.
Because at some point in young relationships, you figured out that you've
got it better figured out in something than the other person.
And then you end up treating them like they're a child,
not like they're your spouse or your friend.
And so you're not the parent.
So I would constantly have to say,
I'm not Cory's dad, you know.
So, because you would, you know,
for it would be like over safety over something.
And it's literally like I'm treating them like a child.
And I look, here's what you do, you know,
it was great advice that I had then
and I think it's good to say,
hey, we're not, I'm not raising you.
This journey that you're gonna go through in life
is obviously with your spouse,
but there's also a lot of other things
that you've got to figure out,
and figure out with other men,
or with other women, with friends,
with relationships, with careers, and all this.
And so I think it's, you know,
you just gotta be careful not to treat that other person as a young couple.
I mean, for couples who have been married like you off 28 or so on years.
Well, at some point, my advice shifts to you, you got to hang in there and
you got to weather the storms and I mean, that's not really ground breaking
at the ice. But I think in this culture, we have less face it. I mean, that's not really ground breaking advice. But I think in this culture we have, let's face it,
I mean, somebody said the other day,
if there's a back door, believe me, you'll use it.
So if there's an option to get out of this thing
or just move on, you have to do that.
And then that goes back to give more than you take.
And so what I try to do is, how much can I give?
And I'm sure to give more than I'm actually taking.
And there's gonna be times where you end up taking
indirectly, but if you can always just wake up
when you're working on doing some of the good advice,
I think I have is like find some things in your relationship
that you're good at and that you like doing.
And then you pour into those like mom and I
with cooking for instance, she's not a good cook
and she doesn't really care about cooking, she doesn't love it.
She finally likes to eat, I mean, with first-gen, she didn't know what good food was.
And so, man, and I just owned that and I said, I'm going to take this over and I will, you
know, and so I work at it, I practice, and now it's been this cool relationship, like
with you guys, with siblings, with family.
We bring your friends, oh, that's cooking this.
And so when I'm just sitting around with nothing to do,
and there's a Saturday I'm by myself,
I usually get a cookbook and I'll try to,
I have practice meals that I do.
And some of them work, some of them don't.
But all that's going into one thing that I can provide,
which is that another piece of general advice,
which is, I'm always like this, I wanna live my life.
If I'm not there, I wanna be missed.
I wanna be like, oh shoot, Willie's not here.
So it's not gonna be as fun,
or it's not gonna, I'm not trying to, you know,
ruin somebody's thing, but I wanna live my life,
of course, like when you're here, man, you give this,
or you give that, and you're really missed if you're not here.
And so, cooking's one thing that I can do.
We eat, you know, two to three to five times a day, and so it keeps coming up.
And it comes back to that, it's a together thing.
We'll, you know, tonight we'll be cooking.
We've got lobster tonight.
We've went big time, and this whole thing will be a process.
We'll sit in there, we'll have this time.
You know, it's actually what Lou and Shelley Gaglio, when they were at our house, and I'm big time and this whole thing will be a process, will sit in there, will have this time.
It's actually what Louie and Shelley Geaglio, when they were at our house, and I'm cooking,
we're having this conversation, and then Louie called and said, hey, Willie, I want you to do that
at Passion City. I'm like, do what? That whole thing we did, the cooking. And so they set up
the stove, they got the ingredients, and I cooked while they sound the couch, and we had this
conversation. That's cool. Because it was just a powerful time, they got the ingredients and I cooked while they sound the couch and we had this conversation.
That's cool.
Because it was just a powerful time and then the sitting and the eating and so all that
is that family time but it's not this force like what can we do as a family.
We can do something like that.
It's way better just going, hey, let's go pick up.
Obviously at times we go pick up something to eat.
But I just try to be so intentional about that and say, and I want it to be the best.
I want it to be good.
And if I'm not here, people are gonna go,
I don't know.
What do we do?
We're gonna eat.
Well, I can attest to that.
Your cooking is my favorite thing ever.
Like me and Bella literally like call each other
like what should we ask dad to cook tonight?
And what it is, something we circle around.
I was telling somebody today,
I was like, it's not just like meal time
with our family, it's before meal time. It So when dad's cooking, we all sit around the counter
and talk and wait for you to finish. It's some of the best conversations. And so I can see
how that's really brought our family together. And I'm very thankful for that. And that
rolls right into the next piece of advice I want to ask you about fatherly advice. That's
one of my favorite things about what you do as a father. So I can just go ahead and pump
you up and say just the way that you intentionally cook. Like it's so seen in our house and it's so felt from every child that
something we all look forward to. Even the ones who don't have great taste like will. But he still
likes hanging out with the family. But what's some fatherly advice you give? Oh man, I think that's
probably the toughest advice. Fatherhood or motherhood either one, you know,
parenthood is so hard because you don't really know.
I mean, you can read all the playbooks.
You can read the new testament.
You can read the Old Testament.
You can get advice on what needs to happen.
But you really don't know, you know, when you're in the arena of raising children, one,
it constantly changes, you know, from babies to, you know, to getting
up to young kids and then you're getting into the teenage years. And then now, so you're
still learning and having to grow. And I guess my biggest advice is you've got to be able
to adjust. You know, for our family, there's six kids, all sorts of different backgrounds,
you know, through adoption, through coming in different, everything. So everything had to adjust. In fact, up until today, you know, like it's still,
like today I have to may have to make a move, you know, here or there, tomorrow I will as well.
And so as you're dealing with the different people, I guess my advice is I don't push too much.
I try not to shape, I didn't try to shape you guys into anything other than being a good person,
hopefully a believer in something bigger than you are in our faith aspect. But I could only teach you
that by doing it myself. And so I could read you all the Bible scriptures. But I knew a slew of people
who went to youth group and went to church who turned out to be terrible human beings. So that's not
the secret sauce, which is if you hear enough. And so it's, you know, tried to be terrible human beings. So that's not the secret sauce, which is just, if you hear enough.
And so it's, you know, tried to be the same, good or bad,
you know, at home as I was, I didn't want somebody to go.
You know, I want you guys to go like,
whoa, what happened to that?
He didn't, he didn't talk like that, you know.
So you try to keep that the same.
And, but I didn't try to push you guys,
just I was like, whatever happens,
which, you know, I'm not a big goal guy.
I'm not, you know, and some like, I'm not pushing.
I'm just gonna let you guys and then let me,
whatever it is, wherever you get to,
let me try to help you in that moment.
Don't ask, I don't know what God's got in store for me,
just whatever I'm doing, God's there.
And so we can work through whatever that is
because Lord knows I never knew what I was gonna be doing.
I'm a PE major.
I'm like, I didn't know what I was gonna do.
I know I love the Lord.
I know I love my wife, I love my kids.
And so I was a camp director and then that shifted.
And then I worked for the church
and ended up being on TV with my family business
with duck calls.
So you never know.
And so making you guys into the best athlete
or the best this, which dad had taught me that as well.
He was a college quarterback.
He had done all those things in really in life.
He had already seen that's not the most important thing
in life.
And if you're skilled and if you are a great athlete,
it's not that I quit the basketball team
when I was a senior.
And I quit only because I wasn't playing.
And I wanted to go play, so I quit and went and played in the wreck league.
So I could play basketball.
And my team when I quit, we're like 500.
And then I quit and it wasn't me quitting that made the difference because it's believed
me.
I didn't play.
But then they went to the final four in the state of general.
I was like, shoot, I wasted my time.
I always say, hey, maybe want to stick it out. So it's not that you can't, I mean,
you won't tell it and I'll be in push. My parents were, no, any puts you know, other than church
and, you know, being a good person, but figure that out. Don't just, I think sometimes we try
to shape our kids life so much, you know, and then we get thrown into the world. And then
it's like, I don't know what to do, you know, because mom and dad did this. So there's just a little bit
of real, a little bit of, you know, street smarts mixed with, you know, whatever it is. And
don't push this guy all the way inside whatever it is. I have it ends up. I'll help you.
That's really cool. It's really cool to hear you say because, you know, I've obviously
seen you parent me like that, but I never really realized I was the intention, but now I'm like, oh, it's so clear.
Like you never pushed or mom never pushed,
but you're always there for us
and always there to speak into whatever it was
if we asked, like even when I was playing basketball,
it wasn't like you're at like every single game
and I was like, hey, I'm working on this,
I'll never forget you were like,
you got to stop taking that one dribble
and picking the ball up.
And so we asked you to speak into it
and help us figure something out or go out and help
us figure out by showing us.
And that always really means a lot.
And it's so true.
It's like, we don't know where God's going to take us.
We couldn't, I guess, this.
I wasn't a guest going to Nashville speaking on doors right.
It wouldn't have happened, but God was there and it all.
All right.
So I want to shift gears next to Best Piece of Business Advice because you are a businessman
through and through.
Even from the time you were young and you were selling bubble gum packets.
But here you are now and you run that commander and several different things.
So what's the business advice?
Well, yeah, I've always kind of had a night for trying to make money or figuring out ways.
And my business advice probably is going to sound super counterproductive.
What you would think I would say,
and I've said this before to other groups of people,
and it's really to be content.
And so, and I think people go, what?
Like, that's terrible advice.
You gotta push, you gotta drive.
And I'm like, no, believe me,
I've been around every kind of person
who pushes and drives and some are wealthy, some
are not.
No matter where you are, you have to be content.
Now that does not make up for hard work.
I'm going to work as hard as anyone else on whatever that job is.
No matter what you're doing, if you're not content and you're sitting there warning something
you don't have or warning more or warning, you warning, I think it'll just drive you crazy,
and you'll look up and realize you spent so much of your life
pushing for some, you don't even know
why you wanted to meet it in first place.
And so one thing I learned from my dad,
which was he was so content,
like we made nothing, we were poor and all that.
But today where I sit, I'm so glad I had that experience,
which is nothing with parenting, like you guys didn't grow up like I did.
And so, but man, I appreciate having to fight for something and want something.
You had to work.
It was the question.
I was like, I don't think I'll just not do anything and chill out and watch TV.
And that wasn't an option.
It was like, if you want stuff, you have to go where?
When I give you anything, you got to go do it.
And so that was understood, but I understood that contentment.
So you could run into a guy who makes $100,000 a year.
He's not content.
Cause he feels like he should be making three.
You could run into a person who makes $25,000 a year,
they're not content.
You know, if you're content with whatever you have,
and so if it's a little of it's a lot,
I've had the beauty in my life of living with very little.
I've had to be in my life even as an adult
where I didn't have a lot of money.
Everything had to be thought about.
Mom and I, when we first got married,
we would just have a knockdown dragout fight over.
I wanted to buy some comic book or something.
I was so stupid, I can't even remember what it was.
And she wanted about like ice cream,
and I which I thought was just a terrible way to spend
money. And so like $4 is not down. Drag out fight. But now I see the beauty in
that of being able to live my life in those situations to where now obviously I
have a lot more. And it's where you can tent. And so really I don't think about
money. I know this. It was fun making money for sure, but it's super fun.
Give it away. So I love giving it. sure, but it's super fun, give it a way.
So I love giving it a thing.
Yeah, I just love it.
I'm not sure.
I think about it.
It's right back to get.
And so, man, when I can help something or some person,
when I can say I can afford to do that,
if you want to push yourselves to be like that
and have what I have, then, yeah, you're going to have to work
a lot.
You're not, you know, it's always time and money.
There's very few people I know who have time and money.
So you need to figure out what you want more of.
If you want more time,
then you probably won't make as much money.
If you want more money, believe me,
you're not gonna have as much time.
And so I find that people go like,
well, I want them both.
Well, you don't have them.
What I want to do, the reason I really push
because I didn't want to be so old
to how I was like, I finally got everything I wanted.
Now the time and now I can't walk, you know.
So somebody helped me over to get to where I wanted to.
I wanted to do it young, where I was still young enough
to where I felt like I could enjoy it
and then give some away and have that.
And such good advice.
And honestly, that's taught me a lot.
I've watched you and mom just stay content
and the good times, the bad times, times and each and different season of our life
because even our life like I feel like we grew up a little bit different than how even
little after or after. Oh for sure. No, you know, you're just seeing that especially
Jean-Luc and I has been really cool because as kids we never saw you all acting
different when we got more or when we had less.
There was a contentment throughout the whole thing. That's really the same thing.
The space may be bigger, but it's the same thing happening in the space or the same.
It's really those same things. And now my new job is awesome. I love this job.
Yeah, please tell me your new job. Because I'm a volunteer in Camp Chioca.
I'm actually a teller by John Luke's chief maintenance guy,
which means I have to pay for everything too,
so because I'm also a donor.
But I love being a volunteer because I can't get fired.
I know there's no way they can say,
look, you're out of here, you know.
And one, I'm just really getting after it.
So, you know, I may be a little obsessive,
but it's, I mean, I work till dark, you know,
every day, mom knows I'll be home at dark, which does make the food a challenge.
It's true.
Because then I have to cook.
So the meals are late, and I'm like, well, if you want me to cook, it may be 9 o'clock.
I'm trying to determine how long it will take me, or any human being, not just me, because
I'll cheat and get some other people to help, but I want to pick up every piece of dead wood
on a hundred acres of property.
Every piece of dead can't shoot.
Yeah, every tree that's falling, everything.
So my dream is to walk and there be no piece of dead wood.
So I told John Ligg and I said,
then if I accomplish this, we may be like really old people.
He may be my age and I may be like in a little hover around scooters
Going around there with my little stick grabber. I have a custom like stick grabber
It's awesome and I went through tons of them, but yeah, I just love it. I love being outside and really just love not having to do other things
But I'm gonna do other things. Yeah, I'm in a season of volunteering, but I still we run the biz. I mean, I still have a lot of you
You really did produce so many waters is hilarious like you're still doing so much and you're still going so much
Enough to be in the public eye where people will say oh, I see our dad in Washington, D.C. Or I saw your dad here
There and he's all these cool places and they say so what's he doing nowadays? I'll say I was actually volunteering at
Camps you picking up stuff and like, oh, because you do
so many different things and I love it.
But we did have a show for a little while
and you were a celebrity and you are a celebrity
and you are recognized by a lot of people.
And so I want to ask you some celebrity advice.
For me, I'm just going to go and shout you out
because for everybody on the show,
I try to say something I really learned from them.
A piece of advice that I learned from them. And for you, like, I've watched you, you're really, really good at being yourself.
And like for me, you kind of spoke over me to be like the original.
That's where the whole thing came from.
I really encourage us, like stick to who we are, be true to who we are, stick to what we believe,
don't be one foot in one foot out, go all the way.
And I've just watched you really stick to who you are.
I mean, I know that's been a heart and it's been a challenge,
but for me watching you walk through that
in the celebrity spotlight, whenever it was really honest,
helped me really walk that out and be like,
okay, well, nobody else is changing who they are,
especially the adults around me.
So like, why would we go crazy and change who we are?
And I watched that benefit for your life. But what's something you'd say to people walking into life change
like being a celebrity or something you want people to understand about it?
Right. Yeah. Well, one else it's really hard. And, uh, who, you know, people come and say,
oh, I want to do a TV show. And usually my initial response is, you know, you don't like,
it's really hard. You don't, you know, To keep it all together and to keep yourself sane and to not get that big head, I think
all the other advice that I've mentioned probably goes into that, which is give more than
you take, all these things.
I think celebrity is so tough.
For us, what helped a lot was, there was a bunch of us together at the same time.
So really, your whole family kind of became famous, which was helpful.
Most celebrities I know is just one person. It's the one, you know, singers, the one athlete, it's the one actor,
whatever. And so what happens is everybody just kind of gravitates around the one person. They
usually hire everyone they know, you know, their family. And then they become like the little G God,
you know. And so then that's a that's a scary place to be in because man, if you get off there, no one's there to say, hey, you're off.
You're off.
Celebrities, I feel like it's really just a bigger version of what you are when you come
to it.
And so, if you're just a terrible person and you're selfish and, you know, I'm trying to use
all the correct words that I can say, you know, as far as a person, and then you become
famous, you're just a bigger
worse version of that who has money now, have fame. And so I've typically found whatever you brought to the game that usually, in most cases, you're just a bigger version of that. And so
going back to when we didn't have much, and, you know, it's the same type of deal. But I was
committed to saying, hey, man, I found that that was more attractive. Say, it was like, it's more attractive like I found, you know,
the true nature over our show, if you could bowl it down to something, there's really an
authenticity there. You know, it's like, man, these people were, you know, they really
are like this. And so I would hope that people would come around with me. And I've had people
say that thousands of times, you know, you're that thousands of times. Yeah, I should have said,
I'm regular guy.
Yeah, I'm just regular guy.
You're at the grocery store.
What are you doing here?
I'm like, well, I gotta eat.
When people said to me, it's so funny.
I thought you would hire somebody to buy your family.
No, I don't trust anybody to go pick my food.
Yeah, I gotta pick up the fruit and all that.
And so it's tough.
I mean, living in the fishbow,
I definitely see the downfalls.
And so luckily for us, we were able to, you know,
which I think God had a plan for us and our lives
and what we could expose, use our platform.
You're a great case of that.
But we did get a little bit of the spotlight.
You know, we had some smaller shows.
And so it was coming, it was building.
I felt like we were prepared more for that.
So people just drop into it and you're just zero to hero, you know, man, it can be, you know, it can be tough.
For sure.
Well, I definitely learned a lot from you, a mom in that season, because that was certainly crazy and a lot of hard things,
but a lot of really good things came, I think, even for growing in who we all were.
So you kind of talked about this authenticity was like the number one thing of our show.
I think when you blow it down, people say that all the time.
And y'all are so authentic.
We all work to our faith, really.
And it's really funny because people all the time are like,
so what made you all decide to really like,
bring your faith into it?
And I was like,
I mean, we just are Christians and our faith
is really important, so just blood through.
And I just wanted to kind of mention this
because I've watched you do this
in every part of your life
It's not just TV like when you're like, oh now we have a show. Let's talk about Jesus
You always talk about Jesus when people come over to our house to have dinner. They don't know the Lord
I will watch you bring them to the couch and so natural like you're just talking and then faith comes out
Somehow and they want to know more and you open up your Bible and you turn to certain things and it's just really powerful
And so I really just want to give advice
other people as your daughter to say,
like if it is who you are, if you love Jesus,
if you are a faithful person, bring it into everything
that you are, and that is so good about just so naturally
being himself in those moments.
If you have any advice on that, you can give it.
But really, I just think it's really impressive
how naturally flow into conversation.
Is this where we move into the next podcast?
Because this might be, yeah.
No, I was worried to go to the next one.
The faith part is, well, I'll give you
some short, simple things.
One is I'm not, I'm not as inspired by people who say,
well, I just keep my faith to myself
and I don't really talk about it.
And so I'd probably not think as how we have that person if they were like that about their spouse, like, no, I don't really talk about it. And so I'd probably not think as highly of that person
if they were like that about their spouse,
like, no, I don't ever mention my spouse.
I don't wanna talk about that person.
You know, you'll never hear me mention that person.
And when that relationship's real, when it's on fire,
and the Bible does that to it,
it likens it to a marriage, you know.
I probably can't go five minutes without mention.
Oh, I was telling Cory that day, you know,
because it comes up because that's in my life. And that's what is important to me. So the idea of just keeping
it like in a little treasure chest. And so we'll open that up only privately. It's fine. If
people want to do it, that's totally fine. For me, man, I find that, you know, what's in you
starts pouring out of you. And so my best advice on bringing faith up to people is number one to listen.
It's not to talk, it's to listen.
It's good.
And when you listen, it's amazing.
If you talk someone long enough, you will hear something.
If they don't have a faith or they're misunderstood or whatever, you'll hear something come out
that you're like, ah, maybe that's the thing right there that we can go off that.
You know, maybe has to do a death or sickness or fear
or you know, just hear something and be like,
ah, and so we dig deeper in that.
And so most of the time it's not this just,
you know, we're you out with the Lord today.
Yeah.
And that's weird.
I mean, that's, yeah, I saw John,
people weird, I'm John,
they be like, I'm gonna be a weirdo.
But if I hear somebody say, man,
oh my wife draws me crazy, I just don't even know if I can, you know,
how do you owe my kids or whatever it is
or I'm scared of death, I may die or whatever that is.
And so, man, I found something that has an answer
for everything.
Like it has all the answers.
Even the little girl I mentioned earlier
who she actually passed away that same week.
And so I'm so excited that, man, we have a God
and we have a book that there's a hope. There's
something, you know, I just got back from the Congo. You're over there and you're like, if that's
all life for some of the people, if that's all it has to offer, man, what a bad draw. You know,
you just like really? So what excites me about bringing that passion to the Lord with people in
America, people who do have stuff, one of my favorite ones are the people who have everything,
you know, or think they have everything.
And so trying to crack that person,
and so, man, I will go just over know with them,
just trying to figure out what can I say?
You know, who is a positive thing?
I'll pray that the words that come out of my mouth,
you know, can have this.
And so, what happens is, then you become become that person so people will naturally bring people to you
It's a beautiful thing just like the food just like it's like oh dad's cooking
Let's go with the same way with stuff about the Bible so when someone's
Misunderstood they go oh well, let's go ask Willie cuz man. He helped me out this time
And so then you get even more opportunities to help people because, and you'll hear all kind of stuff.
And there's sometimes I'm going,
whoa, I don't know what to say.
But usually I can say, all right, let's break this down.
Let's go study some more of the five say,
let's keep this conversation out.
Let's keep this going.
And no matter what, and I've learned this over the years,
I don't have to at the end win.
Like I'm like, boom, they came to the Lord
and they had this big thing.
No, it may last a year, it could last years,
it could last a lifetime of just somebody watching you.
But I always tell you,
your life has to be that harbor
because somebody may be going through the worst thing ever,
terrible and they may come back to you years later going,
there's one person I know.
And I don't want to come back to me and me going,
oh, I'm screwed up, I'm more screwed up than you are.
So, you know, that's what I find in the Lord.
And do not hold yourself back and think,
and well, when I get it all figured out,
I'll be that person because acts one and two
and at the end of the gospel's Peter,
who you spoke about, race land,
I've spoke that a ton of times man this guy falls flat on his face did not know and God and is at the point where it'd be like
You need to take 10 years off where you can ever say another word because you just denied this whole thing
And it was in my Bible I turn the page and there he is he gets up and says Hey, let me get up and preach the first sermon now.
And so for people who say,
Oh man, you just don't know how bad I've been.
Well, perfect.
The apostle Paul, the next chapter from Stoning,
Stephen now calls up saying,
I'm gonna to the point where everybody was scared
to death of him.
So for us to say, whoa, I'm just not the guy,
you know, I'm reading about people who did far worse
things and they get right up.
And I'm not saying that, but giving you a license just to go, San, I'm giving you a license
to live in Jesus and say, there's no time for, there's no like, well, how long does it take
before I can, you know, get back, go and ever to where I can do something bold, you know.
And so that's why I don't, you know, if someone's really bad in San, I'm like, man, we need
you on our team because you could be really powerful for God.
You know that?
So all that, all that mobs you had for sand.
Let's turn it something good.
That's so true.
I love it.
Man, I guess he's so stoked.
And I'm watching you do it with so many people
and walk through it with so many people
and including myself and including all of my siblings.
And so that's awesome.
And it's gonna encourage so many people.
Some people are probably in their car
like responding right now.
They're like, okay, let's turn the page in my life.
You know, with that Kanye West.
I was gonna say was our family not like.
I push myself.
I remember watching him and I was like, whoa,
because he was doing a lot of the same things we were.
You know, with interviews and stuff and I was like,
man, that just emboldened me.
I'm like, I gotta turn it up a notch.
You know, Kanye is out there.
He went. But that's the nature of Christianity. I got to turn it up a notch. You know, Kanye is out there. He went.
But that's the nature of Christianity.
Like you get encouraged by other,
I don't know Kanye West or anything about him.
All I know is when I was hearing him say,
how I'm doing this for Jesus, I got to album,
you know, Jesus is king.
And so I'm like, it may be even more bold,
you know, even in the public eye going,
hey, I'll tell you, I don't care.
And people are like, how can that be?
And it's like, well, that is the gospel look at Peter like a poll
Look at all these people it it isn't crazy that that's what his response was to the gospel because that is the response to the gospel
It changes everything about you. So it's amazing
So last thing I want to ask you and this is kind of a funny question
But people ask me this all the time. I say city. How do you deal with haters?
How do you deal with the haters on Instagram, social media,
being a celebrity, all this different stuff?
And it's one thing to ask a 22 year old girl.
And I know a lot of people might not think to ask a man,
a father, and people probably don't even think
it would bother someone like you,
but people are straight up rude.
And so, one, do you have haters
to how do you deal with the haters? Oh
Of course I have haters that haters and everything and this is one I have to be careful because I can probably get
Quasas sinful over this because you know, I'm like oh really you want to like I will just take you apart I will make you feel so small and I will make fun of you and it'll be funny
and I have a way here platform
and you know, I will just beat you to death
and so, but that's back to the nature of Christianity
where we're not like that.
Where those are people, so it's all people.
We can't just separate the people and all that.
But I will say this, I could care less.
Like I literally could care less about someone who says,
I'm a hater or I don't read comments on social media very soon after the shot
I don't read the you know, I don't get my little up from it, you know, go look at me people like, you know, because of some
I was going to say something but one did slip through and I never forget it was a tweet and it said two Willie Robertson
You're very existence makes me sad.
How awesome is that?
So I didn't even know what to apologize for, like, for existing.
Like, I mean, I don't have a slide.
Wow, you know, that's a big time.
There's somebody actually thought about that, you know, my very existence.
So I really don't care.
You know, mom always says that she
says, you are so funny because if you disagree with me, then basically I'll just
think you're stupid. I'll be like, well, you're stupid. And so I'm right. You're
stupid. So that's that's how I can deal with that. If you don't think what I'm
thinking, right? But I love having talks with people, but I just don't think
social media is the best venue for them.
I mean, I will sit down and talk with literally anyone, people that I disagree with, people
that certainly disagree with me.
It's okay.
I'm going to walk away and say it's fine, but I would love to talk to them.
I'd love to find some kind of common out.
Well, we can agree that we're both human.
We both have noses.
You know what I mean?
Let's agree on something that we can.
I try to see the best in people, but just straight up
haters at some point, you just gotta say, look, I could
care less.
You gotta care less, man.
I'm doing the stuff I want to do.
I have the family I want to have.
I have this and so I'm not going to let you.
And just because you can have some sort of access to me
through the internet or whatever it is, now you're not
getting through.
You won't be talked about as my staff knows
that do not bring me all that stuff.
We will not let 100 comments and 99 of them,
not even get mentioned and one, we get talked about.
I'm like, no, I'm not giving you that right.
It's like myself on that, just because you have a number,
it doesn't mean I'm gonna answer when you call me.
Like, no, I don't wanna talk right now.
So, if we let everybody just say,
oh, the minute you need me, you know,
then we'll be so distracted.
And so, and that's what it does.
It distracts people.
People that are reading that all the time,
it's so distracting.
And so I just, you want to talk about losing my mind,
is that thing where you're talking to someone
and they're looking down at the phone the whole time
and I just want to take it and smash it up
because the wall, I'm saying, man, let's, and maybe I'm old whole time and I just want to take it and smash it up because the wants it man
Let's and maybe I'm old school, but I just hate that I just hate out, you know and watching you guys like the kids just like
Holy moly. What is going on? You know, and so I'm so thankful that we didn't have those phones because you can your whole self
Emory if you read that stuff. I mean
They say so ugly ugly stuff there and. I'm like, I ain't letting
some gassin and gris-conson like ruin my day. Are you kidding me? I love his constant.
But I mean, any, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't get the right to try to, because
you're going to high-factor bag. Oh boy, you know, I made somebody cry or whatever. I mean,
good grief.
Very grief. That's such good advice. I don't care if you are 22, 15, if you're a girl,
a guy, an older, I don't care.
Like everybody take that advice.
And I think sometimes you don't realize
that you actually can take that advice.
You know, like you can put down the phone,
you can't delete that.
You don't have to read on the phone.
And I'm not into a cell phone, by the way.
The cell phone is bringing the gospel to place.
For sure.
For me and you start today,
we would never make it there.
So it can be a positive.
All these recipes I research on the internet.
Oh, in the cell phone.
Yeah, so it's not the cell phone.
It's just being able to handle that thing,
not getting so caught up in the negative things like that.
And other obviously things that you can get caught up in
on a cell phone, but they can be positive.
Who you're allowed to speak into your life.
Yeah, speaking into my life.
That's good. I don't even know me. How speak in the mouth. You don't even know me.
How would you even know?
You don't even know who I am.
You know what I'm saying?
You've seen a version of me or you think you know me,
but you don't.
Yeah.
Well dad, you crushed it.
I mean, so much good advice.
People are going to have to listen to this like three times
and get a notebook.
So thank you for all the wonderful advice.
Thanks for being a great dad and a great friend.
You're the best.
Thanks for asking me, love you, and let's go with asking me to love you and let's go eat some lobster.
Love you, let's go eat some lobster.
Alright, fam, are you ready for some good and bad advice?
We ready, we ready, we ready.
What's your advice, babe?
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Let me for a loop today.
Okay, so whenever I was reading through the good and bad advice,
somebody like through in there,
which by the way, thank you for sending in.
As always, we get our good and bad advice
from the Boy That's Good podcast Instagram.
But somebody said, what do you think about streaks,
like Snapchat streaks?
Which today I'm going to think about,
why don't we just kind of talk about some different aspects
of social media and give some advice on each different one?
Is that sound good?
That's good, that's good, yeah.
Okay, what do you think about Snapchat
and the whole streak thing and all that?
So personally, I really dislike Snapchat. I think that for something to be created to target
what the people were wanting to target it for creating it, I don't think that it was
a good cause. I just don't think it's good. I think that you can communicate in other
ways. I think that some of the ads on Snapchat are very provoking, very bad, very just not
beneficial for you to see. And I think that a lot of times,
I think people do get caught up like you said with the streaks.
I've known people that like the streaks are like
the most important thing and their life's had to speak.
And I would hate you to literally idolize Snapchat
and idolize your Snapchat streak.
And yeah, I don't like Snapchat.
Yeah, I mean, in Christian, we kind of bonded on that.
I started dating because neither of us light Snapchat.
And it's not like we're like,
oh, Snapchat is the woat.
It's just like Snapchat,
just, it's not been official for the most part.
I mean, I'm sure you can use it and it'd be okay
and you do it in a healthy way.
But for both of us personally,
we just have not experienced like a good thing
for our life, our mind, our heart, our body, through
Snapchat. I mean, if somebody sends a picture that's meant to be like unseen a few seconds
later, it's just not a really good set up for teenagers or young adults. And then also
the ads they put on, even if you weren't doing something bad, it's just super, I don't
know, I think it could just definitely take you down the bad road.
Okay, what do you think about Instagram?
I like Instagram.
I think Instagram is different as Snapchat
in the way of, I think that Instagram
is a great outreach for people.
It's really connecting just the world through,
just getting to see a part of your life.
I know that we have had some moments with Instagram
where we've had to delete it just because there are times
where you can maybe feel like you're on it too much. I think you should set a timeline
for Instagram for the day. That way you're not spending too much time on it and filling
your mind on it. But I think that there are many beneficial things. I think that you can
spread the gospel on Instagram. I think that you can be encouraging and uplifting to people
on Instagram. But I know that there are also negative sides that you can compare yourself
to others and that you can be insecure or that you can strive for likes on a post or that you can
...
It totally is what you make it.
That's a beautiful thing about Instagram.
I mean, it's who you follow is what you're going to see.
It's what you post is what your page is going to look like.
So you can be as encouraging.
You can be a light on Instagram or you can cave in and be like everybody else and start
comparing and start getting insecure and be like everybody else and start comparing
and start getting insecure and stuff like that and to fight against that, I think you
have to limit your time and be protective of who you follow and how much you're looking
at something.
But I think Instagram can be used for the best.
So you think it can definitely be huge outlet and I've seen that in my own life.
Okay, what about Twitter?
I don't really know much about Twitter.
I don't really know.
Yeah, I'll do Twitter.
I'll say Twitter can be hateful.
But again, just like Instagram, it is what you make it.
I mean, it's what you post and it's who you follow
and it's what you allow yourself to see.
So it's all of these things.
Social media is like meant to connect you
to other people, right? So if we're not really authentically being ourselves or we're not
It like being a good friend and it's not gonna do it's a original purpose to connect you to other people
It's just going to put you in harm's way and so I think if you if you be a friend if you reach out
If you post encouraging things if you follow encouraging people
It's gonna be an encouraging place for you If you follow all of these accounts that are funny but hateful, then it's going
to be something that probably hurts you. It's always funny when somebody else until it's
you. It's not so funny anymore.
Yeah.
All right. What about Facebook?
Okay. So I don't have Facebook either. But I'm really funny to interview. I can't
also.
I don't have anything on social media. I have a 15 minute time on Instagram. This literally all I do
But Facebook it's kind of like what you said you can make it what you want to be is it was really cool last week
We were in Haiti and
There was this guy that we met and he said that his dad was passing away and his dad said that he had two stepbrothers that he had never known about and
His dad told them his stepbrothers names and he literally just like them up on Facebook and he met up with them in Haiti.
So I think that's definitely a cool face.
I said that Snapchat was like, it's not the world it kind of is.
So the world being worse of all time.
I think I personally think Snapchat is of all social media.
I think Facebook's a go.
Like I love Facebook.
Because it's really your friends and family, you know, and then like it's encouraging, inspiring videos and stuff like that.
I love Facebook.
I think it's awesome.
I know it's like old school, whatever.
I don't get on to that much to be honest, but I love it whenever I do.
It's like just very authentic.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about TikTok?
TikTok.
Maybe.
TikTok on the cook in it.
That's kind of controversial.
I feel like for me, TikTok is an app-chet or a toss-up.
I really don't like TikTok either.
I just don't like dancing.
I don't like the whole-
Because she would not be good at TikTok.
No, I don't know.
I'm just not-
I'm not in TikTok.
If you're a 13.
No, I mean, yeah.
But I would totally love it.
But at the same time, like, I know I'd spend too much time on it because it would tell
me forever.
And the only downplayed to talk is how, like, it just keeps playing other videos so you
don't really know what's going to pop up next.
So that's why I haven't gotten ticked out yet.
Because here's the thing, y'all.
We have to protect what we see.
We have to protect what we get in our heart.
It's a protect our mind.
It's very important because we don't protect it. And then we wonder why we're comparing ourselves
to everybody. Why we're so afraid while we're addicted to certain things. And it's like, well,
maybe it's because that's what we're filling ourselves with. And so with all the things social
media, be careful, protect what you're seeing, protect what you're looking into, protect what
you're searching, but also be the example that you want to see
on social media, be a light, be a friend,
build your community, and be authenticated
to who you really are.
And that way you won't have to feel the need to hide
because you just are who you are.
You don't have to fear somebody who will see you
and think less of you because you presented yourself
in a certain way.
Social media can be a great tool,
but it's all about how you use it.
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