Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - America Scammed Us (w/ Dewayne Perkins)
Episode Date: September 11, 2020Comedian and writer Dewayne Perkins (Brooklyn Nine-Nine, The Break with Michelle Wolf) joins Nicole to talk about getting back together with his ex, the importance of checking in with your partner, an...d how America has failed everyone. They also get into the systemic racism present in writers' rooms, and how to turn the thought of death into something positive. Support Black Lives Matter. For a list of resources and ways to help, check out blacklivesmatters.carrd.co. Follow Nicole Byer: Twitter: @nicolebyer Instagram: @nicolebyer Facebook: www.facebook.com/nicolebyercomedy Buy Merch: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/nicole-byer?ref_id=964 Order Nicole's book: www.indiebound.org/book/9781524850746
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Why won't you date me?
Why won't you date me?
Why won't you date me?
Please tell me why!
Ooh, baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me,
a podcast where Meena Kulbhara tries to figure out how I'm still single,
even though you could take away all of my Crocs and not let me wear them ever again.
I would still date you.
Dwayne, I love Crocs.
Okay, my guest today is a writer for Brooklyn Nine-Nine,
was a writer on The Break with Michelle Wolf.
Oh, they've been on Chicago Fire.
What a treat.
It's a 2014 credit.
Okay, it's Dwayne Perkins.
What an awful intro.
Chicago Fire, when I played that shitty teacher.
I love 2014.
A great year for me in Chicago. Chicago Fire when I played that shitty teacher. I love 2014. A great year for me in Chicago.
Chicago Fire.
What a treat.
Was Chicago Fire fun?
No.
Because it was just like, I was like an extra that was like bumped up to say like move or something.
It was like the very beginnings of have been like this is what this is
okay cool so you're from chicago are you born and raised in chicago yes born and raised in
shinetown baby what part i grew up in marquette park which is like next door to inglewood on the
south side my sister lives on the south side and my grandparents live on the south side.
My grandparents live at like Stoney Island
in like 103rd.
Ooh, that's far.
My daddy live over there with his wife.
Yeah, I don't never go visit.
With use.
When did you move?
Did you move to New York at any point
or did you just go from Chicago to LA?
I went from Chicago to New York to LA i went from chicago to new york to la i
moved to new york in 2017 then i moved here no yes and then i moved here in 2018 i was not in
new york for a very long time i just hated it i didn't like it as a city you didn't like what is
new york as a city new york was hard. And I am lazy and want life
to be convenient.
I was like, y'all asking too much of me.
LA seemed like the vibe.
So when quarantine happened, I was like, girl, I don't see
nobody anyway.
It is what it is.
That's so
funny. I fully
understand not liking New York
because I think that one of the reasons i did like
new york is because it's hard and then like when you live another day you're like i did it it was
very hard i walked up 20 flights of stairs because the elevator was broken a homeless man spit on me
but you know what he had the moisture in his mouth so he's thriving too like i loved new york that is
literally the vibe that i hated it was just a
bunch of people being like trying to convince me that like hustling was how you create character
and i was like love my personality i don't need more of this please get me out of here get me out
that is i love it that's so funny it is so funny to be like i already have character i don't need
it i'm fine like literally i grew up
in a city that was like better structured than this because we have alley so i'm like this is
just a downgrade baby like i can see if i came from like the middle of nowhere and came and been
like wow this is the city but i grew up in a city so i just moved to a dirtier city and was like no
i don't like this yeah new york is fully filthy we had mice that lived in
my apartment because one of my roommates was a hoarder and we didn't know she was a hoarder
we thought she was being cute when she like opened the door halfway to like scoot out
but then one day we saw that there was just trash up to her waist and she literally couldn't open
the door and then when she moved out the mice were like wait there's more to explore it was rough
yeah that sucks that's that's just like shocking to be like girl look at her being coy they'd be
like oh no oh no you you have a problem yeah you're fucking filthy but new york did have like
really great people who i constantly try to convince to move here to LA. Yeah, I feel like I spent, after I moved here,
I spent a very long time telling New Yorkers,
it's not bad, it's nice, it is sunny,
you'll like it, you have room.
And they're like, no, no, no.
But then when they moved, they were like,
I like it here, it's nice.
See, there's a vibe.
You just gotta avoid crazy people,
as you have to do everywhere. Yes, but you're in a car, so it's like see see there's a vibe but you just gotta avoid crazy people as you have to do everywhere yes but you're in a car so it's like rather easy but i gotta say the homeless
situation here is getting out of control and my whole like yesterday i was driving and i was like
it makes me sad to see unhoused people like doesn't it make rich people unhappy and why would
you want to be unhappy for even a second like give them money
do you know what i mean i'm like wouldn't that make you feel better i feel like it would make
everybody feel better yeah everybody feel better if you just like help them it's so wild that we
don't help people especially right now when it's like 135 degrees outside i'm just like this is
so bad just like look around just like yeah it's like terrible i was like keeping water in my car
to give out to people and i ran out the other day so and then someone told me it's like terrible i was like keeping water in my car to give out to
people and i ran out the other day so and then someone told me it was bad that i had like plastic
bottles and i was like you know i'm just trying to help literally did the exact same thing and
then was like i don't have a recycling bin like this is how is it like how have we as humans
created a world where it's so hard to be good i I'm just like, why are y'all making it so hard? They're making it so hard. And I was driving around yesterday.
I was like, Oh my god, is America like a third world country? And we just like don't realize it.
Because I was driving. I was like, this is like not different than like Mexico. And people are
like, Mexico is scary. I'm like Mexico. First off, there's like beautiful parts of it. But I was like,
yeah, LA feels a lot like Mexico.
And maybe we're not doing as well as we think we are.
That sentence doesn't sound okay.
But do you understand what I'm saying?
I do.
I do think that there is this idea that America has been really good at just like branding themselves.
And then we're now like, oh, no, this is not true.
This is false advertisement.
Also, we are so close
to mexico we are mexico like we are i was like because there's like i've been to truly like
one part of mexico and it was really beautiful but like some of the driving it was like dusty
and like like there was like a haze in the sky and i was like oh yeah we have fires here so like
the sky is hazy there's like dust everywhere there's unhoused people
everywhere i passed a nail salon where they were doing their toenails like outside on the street
and i was like i don't know what's like this is this is bad this is bad like why didn't we have
a government who like prevented this and then i was like driving around i was like this is depressing
like why aren't we giving people money i did i was driving down i think in burbank and there
was a bunch of women outside in these bubbles getting their like toes done and i was like
is is this who we are right what what have we come to we could have had a really nice fall of people
i just handled shit but nobody handled nothing so now here we are getting our toes done outside. And I do think it's breaking people.
I did a show for Juneau, Alaska a couple of weeks ago, like their pride fest.
And there was a Q&A and one of the people asked me, what's one thing you would change
about white people?
And I was like, that's a question, first of all.
And then I really thought about it.
And I was like, oh, I just think about it and i was like oh i just think
like i would love for white people to just like understand that this country also failed them
as well like we are in this like do you not see like it's not like it's like from the top down
everybody is fucked so like it's get on board like you got scammed too, sis. Yes. Whenever I think about like white people who grew up impoverished, you were like, oh, the privilege I, you know, benefited from was like, you know, I had to work hard.
I digged whole bubble.
And I'm like, yeah, but like you could even have to do none of that.
You just weren't using the system.
That's why you, my friend, you fucking idiot.
You got to figure it out, too. Like like what do you think we all been doing like like this year in particular
has been a lot of just me being shocked at how shocked people are being like you didn't know this
like where you been what you guys was yelling about who are your friends who are you talking to
like you like do you not think black people want to be like out here just like happy and thriving you think we just be mad for nothing like girl i love being happy i love giggling i love tea
yeah black people love it it's like let us have it yeah the world feels so fucking insane sometimes
i feel like it's bad i were you dating someone before how long have you had your
uh boyfriend uh we've been dating for three years oh that's so nice how did you find him
we dated before so like we had like a weird history because like we like dated then we broke
up when i moved to new york so we dated when i was in chicago and then i moved then we got back
together when i moved to LA.
It's been two years.
I met him during doing musical theater.
I was dancing.
He was doing music. Then we were
like, let's hang out. Then we hung out,
dated, then we broke up
because I was like, I got to move. I got to
follow my dreams.
I got to go.
Chicago is not it for me. Then had like a job and he was like
well i can't move and i was like okay this has been cute um and then i moved and then uh we went
on a trip together to hawaii like the summer of 2018 and we were like oh this is cute also i hate
other people do you want to get back together and we were like that's, this is cute. Also, I hate other people. Do you want to get back
together? And we were like, that's fine. So that's and now we're great because we're like,
we know who we are. We know what we want. And it's been good so far.
See, I want that. I want to meet someone that like I like I have met so many people I tolerate.
Do you know what I mean? Where I'm just like, you know, I can get over all the bad shit about you.
I just like want to be in a relationship.
That's what I want.
I just want someone to like be like, I like you.
And I'm like, I like you.
It's hard.
It is.
I mean, even like, even though I like my boyfriend and he likes me, it's still like so hard.
And we have to like constantly just be like, do you want to keep doing this?
And then we're like yeah but we just got to check in because we're like you know
life is changing daily yeah and we like and at any moment i could truly just not want to be around
anybody including him so we just be like where you at right now mentally do you want
honestly do you do like audible check-ins like that that i think is
like so fucking healthy i think that's really wonderful when we get back together just because
like i feel like when when you're with someone and then you break up mentally i was like i know
your flaws you know mine so when we get back together it was like we're not gonna play these
games we know what this is and i'm gonna tell you what i will and will not put up with because i don't have to be with you and we've
seen that so like let's not pretend they're like and so we're just always like girl what is it and
then if we don't like something about each other i feel like we've created a sense of communication
that allows us to like just say it uh one of the like there was a moment where i was like maybe
you are like good to be with because i was like hey i gotta talk to you about something and i
don't want you to get mad but i think you're kind of dumb wait wait you said i need to talk to you
about something you might get mad i think you're dumb uh-huh uh just like on like
truly like i was like you just there's like our conversations sometimes where they go i'm like i
don't think he knows things and then my boyfriend was like oh that's crazy because like sometimes
when i'm talking to you there's like we hit a wall and then i just like can't think no more and then
i was like okay so we're on to something and he wasn't like how dare you call me dumb he was like let's explore what this means and then he was like i could see what you mean
that's truly so wild so wait you came to the conclusion that your boyfriend is dumb
was there anything that was done to rectify it or you both both are just like, well, one of us is dumb.
He was like, oh, I should read more books and watch documentaries.
And so he'd just be doing more to expand his mind.
Because I was like, I need to have more philosophical conversations with you.
And if you can't keep up, that's not going to work.
And then he told me, hey, there's times where you mean.
And then I'm like, I get that.
So then I work on myself, this is so funny oh my god what a treat you're just like all right i think you're
dumb he's like okay well i could watch documentaries and i'll read some books uh but also can you be
nice you're like all right yeah let me smile a little bit more let me uh let me look at baby
pictures and like let me figure out how much weed
i should be able to smoke to like give you what you need stabilize my mood i get it i'm like life
is hard i am a black man black queer man and yeah america and then he's like and i get that so that's
why i'm not like like is he a lighter is he a white man no he is philippine now ah okay but
like he was raised by white people.
So he basically was.
Oh, sure.
And that was also a conversation of like, especially this summer of me being like, hey, I didn't feel like you was white.
But this summer you feeling white.
And then he was like, let me go read some more books.
I mean, I will say somebody listening to this because people have lots of opinions.
And lately they really love telling them.
It's wild.
All the comments I get are just like, this is what I think about this!
But anyway, people might take that the wrong way and be like, oh, he's bullying his boyfriend.
And I'm like, I don't think that's bullying to be like, I think you need to educate yourself just a little bit more.
Just in general general so we can
have things to talk about but then also about my experience yeah i think that's fair yeah because
like bullying would would be like if you don't do this i'm gonna leave you but we're just literally
talking about ways we can better ourselves and in regard to him of us making the choice to be a
couple there are certain things that like we have to do to like grow and that's something that i'm like for us who exist for for this to keep going one of the
things that i need you to do is be versed in my identity and in ways that are just like deeper
because i want to have deeper conversations with you and so we have like funny moments i'll just
like walk in and be like oh you're watching the 13th again i'm like you do that because i'm not
doing that i don't need to do that because I'm not doing that.
I don't need to do that.
I know about that shit.
So just like stuff like that.
And then it works both ways.
Like if I'm ignorant on something,
it's very easy to be like, yeah, you don't know.
Like you shouldn't say that or like go read this.
I think both of our personalities stem from just like empathy
and being like, oh, what'd you say?
And it's just very simple to be like, oh, a certain way all right let's address it i think that's
really fucking healthy it could like a useful thing just for like the world because i feel like
i mean when people talk politics they argue a. I've learned very much to be like,
Oh,
you feel that way.
Well,
I don't.
And I'm not going to argue with you.
You can,
you know,
take these tools and like learn something or like,
don't,
we don't have to ever talk again.
You're not in my life.
I don't give a shit.
This is fucking Twitter.
And then in my personal life,
I've taken the road where I'm like,
I'll tell you something
so like my roommate had posted like the black box thing do you remember that it was like blackout
tuesday or whatever and i was like black squares yes and i was like this feels disingenuous and
like you didn't share any information and it seemed very like look what i did i think you
should take it down he was like i don't to. And we had like a discussion about it.
And I finally left it with, if a black person tells you something about blackness and you
did something for blackness and we tell you it's bad, I think you should listen.
And then he was like, okay.
And then he like left it up for a little bit and then he took it down and then we like
talked about it after we had like diffused the situation.
But like, I just think it's so healthy to just talk through shit
with people and not just scream at them or whatever i like that you tell your boyfriend
that these are the things i need do you watch 90 day fiance i do not i i tried to um but it's hard
to like watch real people sometimes because i'd be like oh this is cringy like i don't like i feel
weird watching it yeah it's very voyeuristic and like awful and
anti-immigration propaganda but there's this woman darcy who my greatest fear was her going
to therapy because i didn't want her to stop acting poorly like please i really love her
don't change please i was like please don't change uh for the better uh please don't educate her help
yourself please don't uh stay the crazy crying woman you are.
But she went to therapy and her therapist was like, Darcy, have you ever told a man
what you wanted?
And she was like, no.
I was like, that's crazy.
Yeah, I'm like, what are you living for, girl?
Ain't that the whole point of this?
Like, I don't know.
I just feel this way in general.
And sometimes I'm in spaces where there is a lot of resistance.
But in my mind, I think it's probably because I've done too many psychedelics.
But like, if I walk into a space in my mind on a purely metaphysical level, I am a new energy.
Therefore, the space has to adjust to accommodate this new energy.
So I'm not like, so I'm just like, what are we doing?
So it doesn't matter like like work like i'm just like we're all humans entering this space and so i'm just like i come with the place of being like we're all equal care about people
and it's just people just don't and that's why i think me and my boyfriend work because when we
got back together our main thing was being like hey we could die at any
moment so let's not play games i think about death constantly and i think i've gotten to a place where
i've made into a positive of being like oh yeah we should just like make choices that like would
give us the life that we want and just being like what do you want and being like oh i have an answer
has done wonders for my life which has
been like oh yeah and darcy should definitely have um that's crazy to like have to live a life
and be like you've never told him anything like because i constantly am telling people what i
expect from them sometimes it's in a nice way sometimes it's like a little terse but i'm always
trying to be like well this is what i need well you know you have what
you have here's what i need from you here's what i expect from you i do it more in work and in
relationships i do do it but it usually comes like me like being like i need you to text me more
but also i have never had a relationship work so i'm like maybe that doesn't work i think i have
to find a happy medium where it's like, I'm never going to tell a man how
I actually feel.
Like, I'm never going to be like, I really like you.
I'll never say that again.
I'll die before I say that to a man.
But I will be like, I expect you to text me back.
Yes.
Okay.
See, I think my, like, I get why you say that.
Because like, as I think about like men like men it's I feel very privileged in a
sense because I feel like being gay has allowed me to be like hey we don't know what this is we
have to like start from scratch because like there's not a bunch of society being like this
is what this is but like when I was pretending to be straight for all those years um just the
idea of like heterosexuality and just like the way that society has just like played a part in like the roles in which male and female play in these dynamics.
I think blows like all of my friends are like women and just talking to them about men.
I'm like, I don't understand how this is supposed to work.
Like on paper, this is trash.
Like, I'm so sorry that this is what this is.
Because all like truly most, I think maybe maybe like 95 of my friends that are women are
single just because in this time they're like i can't deal with voluntarily bringing a man into
my life to be mistreated i just get like i can't even take that risk i'm like i'm not doing it and
i'm just like damn i can't fuck yeah i'm like the horniest I have ever been in my whole life.
But this company called Tracy's Dog sent me some new toys.
And oh boy, are they fun.
But they didn't ask me to mention it, but I figured I should.
They sent me free toys.
But like, I'm like, I'm not going to die from mediocre dick.
I'm fat and I smoke covid wants me it like
really wants me okay she's like it wants me miss ron is like i want to kill this big bitch
but like it's like so i have that working against me and then it's like imagine as like most men
won't wear masks so like asking a man to be like will you get tested it's like oh i already got
tested well how long ago about a month ago and i've been to puerto rico and i've been on 100
planes and i fucking lick my toilet seat and live on a mattress on the floor it's like i can't i
don't i can't like i don't know you to trust you and i don't trust you because you're a man like i
once had a dude say to me he's like sometimes i sometimes I get dingleberries. And I was like, I'm about to fuck you.
Why would you say that out loud?
Like, you shouldn't even, like, if that's ever something you said out loud, like, you have to rethink, like, who you are as a person.
And then to think, like, this is the thing to tell this woman right before I penetrate her.
To be fair, after he said it, he goes, I don't know why I told you that.
And I was like, I don't know why you told me that either.
I mean, I don't know why he had that thought after and not before.
Like, he should unpack, like, how his brain works, because that's not the normal way.
It truly isn't, but that's men.
Men are a wild nightmare ride.
And I wish I, like, I don't, okay.
So, like, my sexuality, who fucking knows
what it is. I just know that I'm not going to limit myself to like one thing. I'm not going
to just be like, I only date men. I refuse to do that. But like, I wish I wasn't attracted to men,
because they're awful. Yes. And that is the, the burden of the woman uh and this is why like when when i'm on twitter and i
see a bunch of men always like women be like and it's like just go talk to them like go talk to
them i've talked to them they don't they don't just like if you just like took a second and just
like hey so wait what is it that you want what is it that you think i'm like i think it's all
pretty clear if you just like chill and like don't be like creepy and rapey like just like literally just like hey girl as a human what
would make you happy and it's all the answers are like very simple like i don't know respect
me as a person period that would be nice just a little bit of respect. I just don't understand when men are like, I'm not looking
to get into a relationship. And I'm like, okay, that's all nice, fine and cool. Then why the
fuck are you on a dating app? Why are you, why are we out on a date? If you don't intend to get on a
relationship, why are we even talking? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, if you're not looking to
get into a relationship, it should be illegal for you to go to dinner with somebody or go for drinks with somebody
you only get to fuck them if you don't want to be in a relationship and you shouldn't be allowed to
speak literally like i feel like it and it would be so much easier because like as i said most of
my friends are women and they are the horniest people i've ever met it's not like women ain't
out here just specifically looking for dick like that is on the table yes it's like so if you just outright just be like yeah we trying to fuck
girls are not like they're not in like they're not insane they're they're like yeah i want to
come as well and then i'll go do something else like i don't need to be with you so this idea of
like i have to trick this girl with the date because like the relationship is really what
they want i'm like or they just want good dick like that is yes i think and i think the date
is more confusing because i'm getting to know you and then i start liking you as a person and then
we fuck and then it's like oh well i'm fucking this person that i really like because we have
this great conversation as opposed to knock knock stick your dick in me and i say bye
bye and i'm like i don't know him i just i don't know him at all i can hold no feelings to this
dick it was just a good or a bad dick because a lot of men have bad dicks and a lot of them think
they're very good but they're not i'm angry and horny i mean like, it would benefit men to just be transparent because like a date is just a way to talk yourself out of some pussy.
Like some people like, do you think your personality that great?
Like you should be self-aware to be like, okay, I know my flaws.
And if the goal is sex, let me just like not do this day where I have to pretend to be interesting for hours.
Like literally just like
you haven't out if they give it to you just like shut the fuck up and take it you dumb ass
like yeah it's insane it's really dumb maybe i'll like when dates come back if they're fucking
boring i'll be like can we just like fuck i don't want to do this anymore i don't want to talk to
you like we don't gotta do this like girl take I don't want to talk to you. Like, we don't got to do this. Like, girl, take your pants off.
Shut up.
Yes.
Because I worked on something recently.
And one of the PAs was one of the most annoying people I'd ever met in my life.
And every time we went back into the air conditioning, he would go, ah, air conditioning.
And I was like, you can't possibly do that every single time and then
he proceeded to do it every single time and i was like we got to get back inside we have to stop
working the people are bad out here i don't want this i don't want to be near this person this is
awful and then oh my god he was just like so annoying we like got into like not a fight but so i like was sweating very hard
and i handed him my bra because my wire is like hooked my bra to make it like easier in the
mornings uh so like a sound guy isn't just like in my shit uh and then he goes must have been hot
on set and i was like all right you didn't have to like hold my fucking bra and say
it must have been hot on set. It was fucking hot on set. I was sweating. Also, I don't fucking feel
good. So I just said to him, I was like, cool. Thank you. And then he was like, I didn't mean
it like that. And then he went around talking about me to other people. And I was like, what
is fucking happening? He was literally the worst person I've ever met in my life and i truly was
like we need to quarantine from people i don't want to be near these people it's bad people are
bad like it's it's the worst it's ever been for me and i'm like a very i'm already pretty like
introspective just like i'm like by myself but like being around people especially like since
quarantine where i'm i've been i've become so comfortable within
myself and just being like i love being by myself and now that like i'm being forced around to be
around people again i'm just like perpetually in a state of you got me fucked up but not in like
an aggressive way i've just been like hey you gotta stop talking to me like if we never talk
again that will be fine there are so many people in the world stop existing like me like if we never talk again that will be fine there are so many people
in the world stop existing like it like i've never been so okay with like the complete erasure of
people i'm just like literally you could die and i would feel nothing and i've never felt that into
2020 like i'm just like whoa like i just do not care about people who do not care about people
like if you Like if you,
like if you don't have a basic sense of empathy,
I don't think you should be allowed.
I agree with you.
Like some of the arguments I got into with people while we were working
were like kind of ridiculous.
And I had to say at one point,
I was like,
I am the one not in a mask on camera.
Everyone asking me to do things is wearing a mask and not on camera.
So like, I think you just have to remember that like your show is not just a show.
There's people, there's people involved who go home to other people.
So like, can we just chill the fuck out?
It was, it was interesting.
I had to have this conversation with someone very recently who was basically asking me to like accept abuse at a workplace
because they were like, your voice is needed.
And I was like, did you forget that my voice is attached to a person?
Like you keep telling me that like my voice, my voice.
I'm like, but what about my heart, my soul, my mind?
Like, do you not understand that like I am more than just a person that's giving you a service
and i feel like this extends into every job like when people are rude to like service i'm like
you are dead to me like it doesn't take much but if you mistreat a person in front of me i'm like
how like why what is inside of you making you want to do that it makes me just like question
How?
Like, why?
What is inside of you making you want to do that?
It makes me just like question humanity.
I'm just like, I don't know.
Like, why?
It's so easy to be nice.
It's really insane how selfish, you know, you notice people are.
Like, I went to a restaurant the other day because I was like, I don't know.
It's September.
Maybe it's okay to go.
I don't know.
But the waitress came to us in a face shield and a mask.
And you're supposed to wear a mask when you go to the table.
And then you're allowed to just have it off.
And I was like, so what happens when the server comes to me?
And I mean, I literally had just had a COVID test.
But who knows?
It could have been, you know, nesting in my body. Because it takes a minute.
And I'm just talking to her
freely without a mask i'm like that what the like why don't restaurants protect the people who work
there why don't i have to wear a mask when i speak to the server why do we not care about the server
why is your bottom line the money it's so insane the way things are arbitrary and how you care
about some people but not all people
but then like you know it's it's i feel insane almost every fucking day
yeah uh 2020 has really like expanded my minds in ways i'm like uh sometimes i wish i was ignorant
i feel like it seems like dumb ignorant people are having the best fucking time and i'm just like
god damn yes dumb ignorant people who like don't fucking time. And I'm just like, God damn. Yes.
Dumb, ignorant people who don't believe in science had a full-blown summer.
They had a great time this year.
Did you?
I forget where it was.
But it was a festival with a bunch of motorcycles.
And it was so many people. And then there was like, yeah, it was a super spreader event.
But also, wasn't it fun?
And I was like, what?
I mean, there was that motorcycle event there was a Smash Mouth concert that people risked their lives for I was just like the y'all are risk
there was like my friend meatball posted a picture of people eating outside on the sidewalk for IHOP
I'm like what is happening you can't wait to get IHOP you need need ihop right now like girl just make some eggs at your house
yes it's fun and then like i think at the galleria they're like doing dining like in
the garage i'm like this isn't better than home this isn't better than getting to go and sitting
in the park and like being in nature like what the fuck are we all doing it feels insane and then
did you see that trump boat rally where like a
bunch of boats sang i was like i mean if this isn't an analogy or like foreboding i don't know
what like we're not all on the same page of the book like this is a wild i didn't know that we
would like being a person who like is aware of like history in this country i was like yes there
are things in this country that needs to be addressed i did not know that this would happen in this way in my lifetime
right now and and i'm just like oh oh this is like stark i i assume that this would be like like the
underbelly is showing itself so blatantly in a way that i was like i thought white people were
afraid to be this racist i really thought that it was like, we're not going to talk about it. But now it's just like, they're just like, it is what it is, baby.
I'm just like, whoa.
I didn't know.
Like, y'all really out here
just hating black people.
That's truly what it feels like. They're like,
um, uh,
whatever.
They're like, what? What? Are you
shocked? What? We don't like y'all.
We get the fuck up out of here. We said it. We don't like y'all. Get the fuck up out of here.
We said it.
We don't like you.
We want to make America great again.
That means like back to the 1950s when we all moved to the suburbs and left your asses
in the city to die.
That's what we want again.
Y'all came to our suburbs and we don't like it.
It's just like this history of being like, I don't know why they won't die.
And they're just like so mad at me.
Like, didn't we do enough?
How are y'all still protesting?
How y'all still fighting?
And I'm like, girl, honestly, I don't know.
I don't know.
We have tears.
And then new people are just like, because I'm like, I'm so tired.
And I am in my 20s.
And I'm like, I don't know how people exist at like 50.
Like, how do a Black person make it to old age? I like how what are you feeling what is happening in your head and your
heart well I was like thinking the other day I was like is that why we get diabetes and like
hypertension and high blood pressure so easily because we're just tired and our bodies are just
susceptible they're just trying to find a way out our Our body's like, no, we can't.
Like, I didn't realize until I started, like, to have, like, therapy, just, like, what anxiety was.
Like, I knew, like, the concept.
But I was like, that's not similar to, like, I don't know, like, tax breaks.
I'm like, that's something for white people.
Like, I just don't know what, like, anxiety was.
And then, like, when I figured out, like, when I was diagnosed with was diagnosed with like oh you have panic attacks i
was like this is what this has so my whole life nobody like this is what i just had to live with
i'm like people deal with this this is not just like a burden that you're born with i'm like oh
there's things that oh white people oh i'm like with access and resources there are things to
fight this that you just would not know about if you live under a certain financial means.
But then also black people will be like, panic attacks.
Just lay down for a second.
You're like, wait.
No, that's not it.
I told my uncle I had ADD and he was like, I don't think you need to be on medication.
That's not it.
And I was like, oh, but the medication has made my life infinitely better and I can get things done. And he was like, yeah, but I don't think you need it. And I was like, oh, but the medication has made my life infinitely better and I can get things done.
And he was like, yeah, but I don't think you need it. And I was like, cool. All right.
You let me know what you think I need.
I would say I talked I had a conversation with some of some of my family recently.
And as a person, I'm very much like in the mood of like, if you give me a red flag, I would just cut you off.
There's billions of people in the world. I don't need to be a bunch of people.
But I've had to like extend grace to my family in ways i don't extend grace to people
just being like i guess i shouldn't cut all my family off but also like why you got these thoughts
like i don't know how my thoughts are so progressive and yours are like boo-boo like
and it's just like things have been like i was trying to talk to them about like the perception of drugs
and like weed and they're like all drugs are bad it's bad the government dare and then i was like
do you know like all these programs just like do you know that the government creates things for
like a reason like people are like black and brown people are like villainized and during that
program like there's like science based on these like things. And then, then they were like, no white supremacy,
black people use it as an excuse to like make. And like, I was like, Oh no,
like, I don't even know like what to tell y'all.
And then I just like kind of stopped talking.
And then my sister texted me like, are you ignoring me? And I was like, yes.
Yes, I am. I'm lucky.
My sister and I are like on the same page with like white supremacy not being an
excuse um and that like we both understand that like you know dare and like making marijuana
illegal was truly an attack on black and brown people which like goes back to like the harlem
renaissance and shit when they were like we're gonna like black and brown people were the ones who were smoking it they came up with jazz and
then white people took jazz made it less fun and then put black and brown people in jail
and then i just discovered i think i might have said it on the podcast before i don't know
but country has a lot of black roots and black country is so good i can't remember this man oh shit i can't remember
what i watched this week but like i watched this black man who was singing country and i was like
oh it's um oh uncle cracker has a song and it's a cover of a black man song and the black man
song is so much better what's the most famous uncle cracker song yes i also saw that black man song shook me i was like how dare they you like i had no idea
yes and it's so much better than uncle cracker also imagine being like, please call me Uncle Cracker. That's so insane.
Why is that your name?
It's like, sir, sir, read the room.
Read the room.
Truly read the room.
It's so wild.
Wait, Dwayne, we have to take a break.
And we're back.
We are back, back, back, back again.
Help me to understand when men are actually flirting with me and not just being nice to me.
Because I have a problem where I think a man is utterly in love with me, but he's just being nice to me.
See, I feel the same way.
And I don't think there's a problem with that.
I think that is good for self-esteem.
I just think it's not good for self-esteem.
I just think it's not good for the action moving forward.
You can't act on it, but it's good to feel like, I think everybody is in love with me. But then you just have to...
Okay, because the way my brain works, I am broken if things are not just transparent.
So I would say just ask.
Are you flirting with me?
And then if he says yes and then if he say yes
then if he says yes then you know like oh he really wants it because he's like yes i am then
if he says no then he a little bitch so you don't need to be with him anyway you're right oh boy
though but just asking someone flat out are you flirting with me truly sounds like a like dangerous
and scary uh-huh but but also it's like powerful so like if it works
out it shows you in a way of being like
oh she knows what she wants she's powerful
but if it doesn't work out and they be like no
then it's like okay so you
just have to be ready and I think like your
personality type you can recover
from anything so if they say no
you can be like yeah cause that was a joke
but yeah I'm just kidding
I'm funny but if
they say yes it's like okay then let's let's take this somewhere if you're trying to do it then let's
do it but if you're not then like you want to talk about something else like darcy from 90 day
fiance there's always an out did you watch black is king uh i started to but i will admit i got
too high and fell asleep. Fair, fair.
It's good.
I think you should go back and watch it.
Do you smoke weed every day?
Yes.
Okay, so I've been, what's the word?
Unpacking and not navigating.
Just been thinking about my relationship with weed.
And 2020 has been the year where i've came to the conclusion
like oh i get why people say weed is a gateway drug because if you do too much it does stop
working it just like doesn't work anymore um and so i've been having to like take breaks i've been
like oh i'm smoking too much or like i'm i'm i've been thinking about like when i smoke and figuring
out like oh you smoke the most right when you're on social media.
So like I've been on social media for like the last five days and I've smoked significantly less or being like, oh, when you're like working at this job or that job.
So I've just been like trying to figure out the things that make me want to smoke weed and working on those.
And working on those and that has been making my weed intake smaller. Because again, I'm all about like I'm finding the source and not the like symptoms.
Interesting.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
I smoke weed a lot and then also a little.
I take long breaks.
Like I take month long breaks where like maybe I only eat a couple edibles a week and then also a little. I take long breaks. Like I take month-long breaks
where like maybe I only eat a couple edibles a week
and then don't smoke anything.
But yesterday I was like,
I'm going to smoke and go about my life
because I never do that.
I usually just stay home.
But I was like,
I like went to drop off something at a friend's house
and then we were like joking around,
but it wasn't as fun
because I was like,
I don't feel as funny. I just feel chill and then i went to home depot and then i got
not into a fight the lady was she just got really mad at me because i was like hi excuse me how do
i buy paint and she was like how do you buy paint and i was like and she was like you pick the color and we give it to you we mix
it for you give it to you and i went okay well i want blue and she was like well which blue and i
was like the blue that's in my kitchen nook but like i'm not really sure what color that is and
then we like looked at colors and i was like that's not it that's not it that's not it and
she was like it seems to me that you don't know what color blue you want and she sent me away
she was so mad she's like get the fuck away from me get away from me get away from me get the
fuck up away from me and then i like got home i was like well i guess i shouldn't smoke weed and
try to get things done because it's pointless and i still have to go back to home depot to get that
the fucking paint or lowes i go to lowes home depot's bad um but i did go to Home Depot yesterday. I think that is so funny.
Because there are moments like that where you're like, ah, shit.
I'm being a nuisance.
But also, I don't know what else to do because I don't have the information that I need.
Sorry.
But I'm trying to be nice.
But also, help me.
I was trying so hard to be nice to this woman.
And she wanted nothing to do with me.
If anything, she wanted me to like pass away in front of her
so she could go, well, she's dead,
so I don't have to help her.
Oh, now you're not concerned about what color blue you need
because you're dead.
But it was smart that I got the paint samples
because then I like held them in my house
and was like, okay, this one.
And I think I'm the opposite, where I think I have become so used to working my life high
that when I'm not high, it feels weird because I'm like, ah.
I feel like my personality has been shifted by weed.
I've been like, oh, I understand.
Just like while I'm high high I'll go through something that
I'll react to it differently than I would if I wasn't high and then that reaction then becomes
like oh I actually like my emotional response this way versus when I'm not high so then I just
like adopt that personality trait of being like oh yeah like when I was high and you said that
thing I wasn't as mad so I'm just gonna like
remember that feeling so I feel like my personality has just become more chill
because I've been able to like process things better and so when I'm not high I'm like oh
is that gonna come back like if I go into this meeting with these like important people like
how does that feel when I'm high versus when I'm sober and also these people ain't never seen me not high so like what do they know yeah i think i don't like smoking
weed during the day because it makes me too chill and i'm not a chill person and i don't like being
chill and i like being mischievous and i like being weird and when i'm stoned i'm like oh it's
too hard to think of a machine how to be mischievous right now
and then I'll be like
oh wait I'm too high oh I
can't do that bit that's stupid
as opposed to like I get more inhibited
which I don't know if that happens to
some people yeah like I just won't do things I'll be like
that's not funny I think it starts off from
like where your personality is at like
it's base level and then like we
affect you from there
so like i like seek out being chill and i feel like your personality is very much like the
opposite and i think that's why i think you're so like fun to like watch and be around because
it's like look at her love that and i'm just like in a corner like don't talk to me i get why we affects us differently because i'm like yeah my my like
normal go-to is like please don't how can i be in invisible i i only i love attention but only
when i'm asking for it and when i'm not asking for it i'm like please forget i exist i was uh
i was working two like two days before my birthday and the crew got me cake and sang
happy birthday to me and in that moment I was like oh shit oh I didn't know this was gonna happen
I don't want this I didn't ask for this attention had I said everyone sing happy birthday to me and
give me a cake I would have loved it if it happened in that second but if it happened like a day after i said i've been like oh i don't want this anymore it is so funny
to not want attention but want attention yes because i think it might come down to like
control being like i want like i want to be able to control like my body and there's like certain
things like that where you're forced to like adapt a feeling
that you are not ready for and and you're just like no like you you you're literally forcing me
to give my energy to like so many people i did not anticipate and i think at least for me i
like scheduling wise i think of my day and be like how much energy do i gotta give out like
what am i doing who am i gonna talk to so if suddenly I'm like ambushed by 30 niggas being like hello let me
sing to you like oh my god I did not anticipate this I did not yeah I got enough I never think
of energy that I'm giving out throughout the day that's a interesting thing i just know like i give a lot of energy and then during the
quarantine i wasn't giving as much energy throughout the day because i would only i'd be
doing podcasts or like a voiceover thing so that's like three hours out of the day where usually i
was working 10 hours out of the day and then when i went back to working i was like whoa oh boy i'm
gonna die this is too much energy.
I would literally come home and like sit down and go,
okay, well, I guess I go to sleep now because I have nothing else in me.
And I was like, I don't know how I fucking did this before.
Energy distribution.
I think about it a lot.
And I think I, because I just get tired so much.
And so I think there's like ways of being like,
okay, I know that like I have to go to work
and being in like a writer's room
is like a certain amount of energy for that time.
So I'm always like, okay, if I gotta be there
from 10 to five, what I gotta do
to be able to like still be alive by 8 p.m.
So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have to take this
like 30 minute break where y'all not gonna see me.
I gotta cut my camera off
because like I can't talk to y'all for eight straight hours that's crazy it's just like and one
thing that I've been doing in quarantine which has been great because there's so much time I've
been like really trying to pinpoint in my life just like where energy is like being sapped away
and like social media was like one of them like I would be on Twitter and be like after being on
Twitter for like 30 minutes being like why the fuck am I so tired and exhausted I'm like oh right because I just like gave all of this to
this shit that does not matter argue with three strangers who I will never see again just like
shit like that or being like I don't gotta do any of this so I've just been like finding ways
but I'm gonna cut that out I'm gonna cut that out I'm gonna cut that person out I'm gonna cut this
food out so I've just been like finding just like wait what food did you cut out i've just been eating significantly less carbs um because they
just be uh making me feel so i was on um accutane a couple months ago because i got like a really
bad bout of like acne and so i had to like physically stop working out and so i had to
like figure out how to get like more comfortable back in my body
so i started doing like yoga and just looking at like which foods like were making me feel
more tired wait why did you have to stop working out because the medicine like um it dries you out
and so i was like working out pretty hard and so my muscles were constricting and not unconstricting
so i was getting like muscle spasms and they were like, yeah, you're not supposed to work out on this medication
because of the effect
that it has on your body.
And I was like, damn.
Okay, sorry.
So then I just had to stop working out.
Are you still on it?
No, I stopped,
I think like a month or two ago,
but the skin is glowing.
I mean, your skin does look really great.
And I was like,
maybe I get on it for a little bit.
I don't know.
But also I hear it makes you
want to kill yourself. I mean, but I was also like, when I would have those thoughts, I was like, is I get on it for a little bit. I don't know. But also I hear it makes you want to kill yourself.
I mean, but I was also like, when I would have those thoughts, I was like, is this Accutane
or just like 2020, like being black in America?
Like nothing really changed.
Cause I was like, I mean, if I'm like having suicidal thoughts, like it's not, I don't
want to kill myself.
But like, I would say during that period period there was a period where i was like talking
about suicide more just like as a concept because i knew the like that there was like a side effect
that was talked about it's not a big side effect but because people have killed themselves on the
medicine it's just like one that's like talked about and so i was just very vocal being like
hey i don't want to kill myself but like the idea of suicide i i am creating a greater of empathy link for it i get how people could want to do it because like did nobody ask
for this so i get that there could be a point where someone's like i've done enough of this
yeah i i you said you think about death a lot i think about death all the time. And I think my friends have just gotten
used to it. Like, if me and my roommate were driving in my old Honda Civic, and like, somebody
cut me off or something, I would always say, these people need to be careful. I am not dying in a
Honda Civic, because I didn't want to die in a Honda Civic. And I was like, I'm putting it out
in the world. I'm not dying in a shitty Honda Civic. And then I've already written my will.
And I sometimes will tell my best friend about some, like, give her hints about the things that I've asked her to do.
It's like a three-page will.
And Shelly Ruse, my lawyer who drafted my estate stuff, she was like, you can't force people to do things.
And I was like, yeah, but, like, people don't know that.
So I'm going to write what I want in my will.
things and I was like yeah but like people don't know that so I'm gonna write what I want in my will and I like I think about suicide a lot because I'm like I guess the main reason why I
wouldn't do it is because it would ruin someone's day like knock knock knock you open the door
she's dead okay I'm trying to take a bath she's dead or like oh no I jumped in front of the railroad
tracks everyone's late for work I jumped off a building I mean wow that's a real big cleanup
because like you're gonna splatter you're big So like I think about things like that all the time.
And then whenever I see people be like, check in on your depressed friends. I'm like,
no, we should have resources that your depressed friends should go to. That's not just a hotline
where you wait an hour before you talk to somebody. We should have like walk-in therapy
clinics or something. It's so wild that we don't give a shit
about people yeah like that's something that because i think about death like just the idea
of like human existence like what that means and how on this world that that is not the priority
of being like hey we're a bunch of like living organisms and we should probably like that should
be the focus of like figuring out how we exist in a way that's like good for everybody
and the fact that it's just like such a low priority like human life is just like so
expendable and it's just like how did we get here before all of this other shit it was just like
organisms and now we're just like at a place of being like you know people yes we exist it's a
marvel you know why are we here no one knows but also fuck you i'm a
capitalism it's like what it's so crazy i like watched a video of like i think it was in texas
it was police like evicting people from their homes and i was like even if that's like the law
even if you're supposed to do that if i were a cop i couldn't i would be like i can't just evict
people during a pandemic from their homes and i'm like why doesn't the government care about people having homes and like money twelve hundred
dollars is nothing it's crazy yes i think that like you would literally displace a person
potentially like ruin their lives and like put them on a rope to like potential like death and
harm for money just being like you didn't pay this what six hundred dollar rent let's ruin your life
i'm just like ah i just money just like i get it and growing up poor and then like suddenly getting
a job and be like oh this is the most money i ever made in in my life and being like oh my connection
to money is just like not there because like i just didn't have it for so long i just don't see
how this is comparable to like
people it's just like not there for me and when people easily do it I'm like how though like how
like money is made up like the government can literally just go make more yes yes like that's
like the craziest thing and people are like no but inflation happened like well what do you think
when they put more money in circulation what do you think that's happening like it's just they're literally just printing more money
and I'm just like if we can print more money I don't know I have like this whole thing like I
asked Twitter nobody actually got back to me on this I was like how is it legal that like Jeff
Bezos and uh Bill Gates and all these people can be billionaires, but then the people working
for them work below the poverty line. I was like, why isn't it? Why isn't there a law that like
after cost the like surplus that they make as a company? How come a percentage of that doesn't
have to go back to the employees so that like everyone is getting you know rising at the same time you know like
working in an amazon warehouse should be a lucrative job because amazon is a lucrative
company it makes no sense that only the owner is the one that's like benefiting from truly
thousands of thousands of workers it it makes like it that's a thought that i can't think about
often because that's one of those things that like make me go into like a dark hole of being like, this is such an easy thing.
There's not even that many billionaires.
Like if you know, like there's this is such an easy problem to fix.
And they're like, we're not going to do it for these like 14 people.
Yeah, it's fucking wild because like you have your board of directors and you're like CFOs, blah, blah, blah.
Like literally just like promoting your friends to these made up names so they can get like a piece of the pie. But I'm like,
somebody who's like working at McDonald's should make a living. It's people are like,
oh, well, they wanted to make money. They should have gotten a better job. Oh, I'm sorry. The fact
that you get your food 10 minutes after you order it is a skill. That's that shit's hard. I couldn't
work in fast food. It's I think it's hard. And couldn't work in fast food. It's, I think it's hard. And
I just, it's so wild to me that they're like, no, you'll get $7 an hour, $10 an hour, whatever.
And you'll have to deal with it and you'll have to get a bunch of other jobs. It's so, and then
I saw this other post. I was like, we should all have hobbies. And I was like, oh yeah, people
don't have hobbies anymore because they're like working all the time because that's how you stay in a house it's i feel
legit like maybe i'm a socialist i don't know but like things feel crazy i think i am like i'm always
thinking about like the power of humanity and just being like the power comes from like the person
because even yes i used to work in fast food and because of the way that i think this is a very
dark thought but i was like uh so when i worked, I worked at a potbelly sandwich shop in Chicago.
And then I got promoted to work in the corporate office because they wanted to hire like a cool person from within the company, like a younger person to do interior design for some of the restaurants.
So I saw like both of the sides.
Oh, I have a corporate office and then I'm also making sandwiches.
And I just kept thinking like, oh, oh these corporate people they don't interact with people
like they have so much power and then i would go down to the sandwich shop and be like i could
kill all these people if right now i wanted to poison this mayo who would have the most power
like who interacts with the most people who literally could make the biggest impact right now
and i and that was just like the thought that i had have been like if we wanted to we could ruin this business right now
and i just always have those thoughts of being like how dare you think that you have power and
then like when i'm interacting with like authority i've always had a problem with it because growing
up in chicago a very segregated place authority was always usually white and truly terrible so
when i'm entering these spaces and like with work and like bosses and like hierarchies i'm like sure you have a position
but that is only relevant to me in business affairs this does not give you any right to treat me
any worse because at the end of the day if this job was gone i could beat your ass
so then you like never forget that that at the end of the day,
I will fight you.
And I just keep that in the back of my head
of being like, all right, power, whatever.
But also as humans,
we all have power to beat somebody's ass.
It's funny to me that companies,
I mean, the shittiest thing about it is
they got rid of unions,
unions helped people get like living wages and whatnot. But like, if people want it,
like if everyone who ever worked at like, an Amazon warehouse or McDonald's, if they just went,
no, none of us are going to work, they would lose so much money that day. And if people continue to
not go to work, like that would make a change. But then it's like, well, if you don't work,
somebody else will do it. And the thing the shittiest part is the person who would do it
but it's not shitty that they would do it it's shitty that they're like oh I have to do it if
you're gonna give me a job like I have to I'm not in a position to say no to it it's so wild to me
that like you know during the pandemic they're like we have to go back to normal and I'm like
no y'all just need to keep making your money.
Yeah, like normal never worked.
And that's why I think it's so hard to see people not see it.
And I get it because I'm like, yes, growing up, there was you can't see outside of your
circumstances if your circumstances are like that dire.
Like if no one's thinking like, oh, if we all stop stop working we can topple down this person they're
like how do i survive today and it's because like they're living in these situations that were
that was the purpose like it's all just like the government being being like okay we know human
nature if you give a bunch of people something and give a bunch of people nothing those people
with nothing you can make them do what you want because you've created a situation where they are dying to get out of it and that's just like what
it is and to see that and see people kind of embody that on like an individual level and don't
see the big picture is so disheartening for me because i'm like it's not your fault you don't
see the big picture that is the point that is the plan you're not supposed to see the big picture
and now that some of us have been like allowed to like move up you're like the first time i got into like a writer's room and i was like oh
this is this is meant to be this way like i'm meant to be the only black person like this is not
an accident and this is all bullshit and it just made me so sad because i was like based on what
i had to do to get here the people that i grew up with are will never get here there's just no way for them to get here because it is made to bar them
out and particularly writing one of the easiest jobs I've ever done in my life a writer's room
is so minimal work you get paid so much to do so little and I'm just like what a fucking scam
they have told so many people that they cannot do that this is impossible for them
to reach and i'm just like and i'm working with some people that are like fine i'm just like
my fucking cousin can make some fucking jokes like this is not a hard job and it just like
makes me sad to be like damn these systems really work in a way that's so insidious and also like
the thing about writers rooms that people don't understand the systemic racism inherently in a way that's so insidious. And also like the thing about writer's rooms that people don't understand the systemic racism
inherently in a writer's room is
you're the only black person by design
because the network gives the show budget
to hire a person of color.
It's called a diversity hire.
And then your diversity hire,
you usually write or hire someone at a staff member level.
So then you're a staff writer. And then you're like a story editor, executive story editor.
Once you're past like executive story editor, the diversity hire doesn't really cover that
because then you've become too expensive. You've priced yourself out of being a diversity hire.
So then when you go to get another job, they've already hired their, you know, higher ups,
their co-EPs,
their EPs or whatever. So then they don't have money for the black person. So then they just
get another diversity hire. So then you have all these mid-level black writers who can't fucking
get jobs because they've already been knocked out. But then you have a white dude who's like,
oh, they went diverse this year, so I'm not going to get a writing job. And I'm like,
you're not getting a writing job because you weren't good enough.
The reason why the black person got the job
is because they didn't cost them money
and they hired their room of white people.
And they did their due diligence
by getting that one black person.
It bothers me so much when people say,
I didn't get this because they went ethnic.
Yeah, it's like, buddy, we're not even in the same pool.
Like, this is not, like, you don't know how this works.
This is not just like, it's like buddy we're not even in the same pool like this is not like you don't know how this works like this is not just like it's not that like diverse it's it makes me so mad when
someone's like diversity's in i'm like in what nigga like how how yeah where point it out
because i'm still yelling every day like where the niggas at? It's so wild.
Cause when I staffed my show,
rest in peace,
I was asking for mid-level black writers and I was told that was a unicorn.
And I was like,
what?
And then I,
you know,
learned later that they're not a unicorn.
They just maybe don't keep representation because they don't work because it's
hard to get work at that level when you're a person of color.
And then I was also told that like the person I wanted to show run was not like and I love my showrunner very, very much.
And I'm very happy with who I had.
But I was told that this black woman that I wanted didn't have enough experience.
And then I was like, well, how do you get the experience if not show running?
Somebody has to give them the job before they're qualified for the job that's how any fucking job works when you get a promotion you haven't done the job yet and something that
like i've learned to fight against is this idea of like precedent as like a queer black man i
already come into this space being like if these rules were created with not me in mind, I ain't got to follow them.
Like, you know these systems were made for straight white men.
My gay black ass is not coming in here listening to none of this.
You can't tell me about no path.
I'm going to ask you for what I think I deserve and the work that I'm giving you.
And then we just going to go from there.
Because, like, we not doing this.
And if we do, I'm going to quit.
Like, I don't, like, like, I'm going to be real.
this and if we do i'ma quit like i don't like like i'm gonna be real like uh my family like my just the way that i'm raised you cannot and i don't know like how how this happened but just
with my growth as a person like money just ain't it for me and you not gonna mistreat me for some
money and i'm not just gonna be quiet about it either like and that's like there's a lot of fear
and because like we said i think about death all the time i'm like nigga i only fear death you not finna convince me that like a
straight white man who like what did improv i'm supposed to fear you what what because you're
gonna fire me like nigga i've been i've been unemployed before like ain't nobody scared of
this but what you're not gonna do is like be mean to me like it's so simple to just be like hey that
made me uncomfortable can you not do that and just that mean to me. It's so simple to just be like, hey, that made me uncomfortable.
Can you not do that?
And just that idea.
I've been in so many environments where people are just afraid to do that.
It's just being like, hey, that was weird.
Can we not say that?
And because it's so natural to me of being like, oh, well, they did a thing.
It's okay for me to just be like, hey, don't do that.
And to see, to know that having that energy in spaces as things being
difficult blew my mind because i was like wait what but i don't want him to be mean to me how
would he know if i don't tell him and then they're like we don't do that you're like but why then he's
gonna be keep being me it is funny sometimes where the person who's like i didn't like this is the
one who gets in trouble because they're like you're tone the way you said it you know we didn't want and it's like okay well i didn't like what happened so how are they supposed
to fucking know unless i'm gonna tell them that's that's point blank that's like i'm just gonna i'm
just gonna tell them like you know dreams aren't dreams when people are shitty you know i'm like
this is just information how would we know how to conduct this environment if we're not like we're
the test subjects i'm assuming like you're the boss we're the workers how would we know how to conduct this environment if we're not like we're the test
subjects i'm assuming like you're the boss we're the workers how would you know how you're leading
if we don't tell you like this is great or this is bad like you want us to say when things are
good so we should also be like this is great also this is not so great because this doesn't
but like that's just life like you know when they like starbucks send you that survey they don't
give a shit they're not improving anything. Exactly.
People are no, no higher ups actually care about what the people under them, how they're actually doing.
They just care about productivity.
When productivity stops and they go, wait, what's going on?
Yes.
I had a moment that really was funny to me based on like there's these situations where I like am talking and then I'm
looking at myself on the outside being like oh you said that oh this is who we are okay I guess
that's who we are and there was a moment I was talking to an exec at a network and they were
like trying to convince me to say I had a job that I didn't want to and they were like but your voice
your voice your voice and then they were like okay so like you can do this job and this job will help
you get this job and then like eventually you'll be a showrunner, have your own shows.
Like we get it.
This is hard, but like there's benefits.
Then I was like, okay, that could happen.
Or it could get so bad that I kill myself.
And then they paused.
And then we were just like sitting in silence.
And then they were like, do you want to kill yourself?
And I was like, no.
But the fact that you think that the full spectrum shouldn't be explored is problematic. and the fact that you're selling me only half of it is bullshit like that let's
not do that let's not because like this is actually like pretty detrimental to like me as a person and
to you for you not to acknowledge that I'm not here for it so like even though I'm not gonna
kill myself I needed to tell you that so that you can know they're like niggas be out here killing themselves.
It is funny that they only gave you like the positives.
I think like people should be let out of contracts if they don't want to be there.
Like it should be one conversation.
Are you sure?
Yes.
All right.
Bye.
Like, don't tell me because then you're just like placating me and you're trying to make me feel like i'm actually
there for a purpose when it's like oh i've already been there and there is nothing for me there so
that's why i'm trying to move on yes like i don't people who don't want to stay somewhere they're
not like being inconvenient like i you think i don't want my life to be convenient like if i'm
deciding to leave something it's because it's not working and that's fine like and why would you want someone to stay there if the environment is not conducive to creating the best work?
Because then they're going to have to go find another black person to replace you with.
And guess what?
That's work for them.
I'm just like, girl, you don't pay me enough.
Yeah, I think I like that you bring up like you don't pay me enough because for me there is a
number for me to tolerate bullshit i agree there's a number for me to go uh i won't say another word
but for the most part you're never gonna get to that number so i'm so sorry you're gonna have to
listen to me there's two options and you don't have the budget for the second one.
So you truly don't.
And if I'm such an asset that you're like saying, just make the environment good.
Like, don't try to sell me on like all the ways that like I'm good and then not create the environment to foster those things.
That's just not how it works, baby.
No.
But Dwayne, we've come to the end.
Is there anything you want to promote uh just like people
being good to each other but nothing like personally um i'm gonna promote something for
you my episode of brooklyn 99 in this past season was written by duane yes so if you watch that
episode guess who gets residuals me and duane yes that fun time. Like I, that was a very special moment for me.
Cause I specifically was like,
Hey Dan,
all the black people in this episode,
you gotta let me write this episode.
I'm like,
let me be with these black people.
Let me be with these black people,
please.
And then he was like,
all right.
I'm like,
thank you.
I was so happy that you wrote that episode.
And then I was like,
so happy that you like got to be on set.
We had words.
I said some things to you.
I hope you listen. Actually, I think you did. like you said a lot of things that we talked about that
day um and then like it was just really it was special I love when black people get to do shit
because it is so rare that there is a black writer on set there's so it's so rare to that like there's another black person in the scene with me and i was like we were like also on a private jet like it was fucking fun it was very it was a very
special and like that was the first episode of tv i ever wrote so it was very special to me and you
have a very special place on my heart that i didn't know oh what a treat well i it was a funny episode
and uh everyone everyone was like,
the script is so good.
And I thought the script was really good and it was fun.
And Dwayne, you're wonderful.
Oh, I forgot.
Okay, real quick.
Would you date me?
Absolutely.
Oh, what a treat.
Thank you.
I would also date you,
specifically because I think you'd be very chill and you would just, like you would just be spitting out and you'd be like, hey.
Hey, girl.
Just stop.
It's fine. We ain't got to be this way.
We ain't got to be this way, girl. Come on.
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If you send me something nasty hitting on me i will read it out loud this person said i am finally drunk enough to tell you that
even though i live stupidly far away from you i would love to turn you upside down spread those
legs like a piano and tickle them ivories uh until they played beethoven's fourth symphony
i will say does she think i have teeth in my pussy? I don't have, I don't have ivories in there.
That was my first thought too, being like, what is that?
What's in her vagina?
I don't know.
I haven't found any ivories or anything white in there.
It's just brown and pink, like a Hershey kiss dipped in strawberry cream.
Ew!
The way your face changed means you hated it.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Well, that's it!
Bye-bye!
Ha ha ha!
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