Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Dating Michael Jordan, Larry David, and a $6K Dating App Fail (w/ Garcelle Beauvais)

Episode Date: September 6, 2024

Actress Garcelle Beauvais (The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills) joins Nicole to discuss dating the likes of Michael Jordan, Larry David, and Eddie Murphy. She shares her experience working at a Playboy club under a fake ID, and the time she accidentally spent $6,000 on a dating app, without landing a single date. Nicole and Garcelle fantasize about a world with Yelp-style reviews for dating.  Write to Nicole! Submit your dirty pick-up lines, dating stories, or questions to [e-mail] for a chance to have it read on-air. Follow Nicole Byer: Twitter: @nicolebyerInstagram: @nicolebyerMerch: podswag.com/datemeNicole's book: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746

Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell me why! Ooh baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me, a podcast where Meena Kulbhaya was trying to figure out why I was single for so long, even though you could come all over a painting and say, it's a Jackson Pollock. I might have done that one already.

I don't know. That one sounded kind of familiar. Anyway, my guest today is a talented actress and TV star that you've seen on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Coming to America, and Spider-Man Homecoming. She's certified as executive producer of impactful Lifetime movies like the award-winning Black Girl Missing, and our latest project, Tempted by Love. I am so thrilled she's here, and we had one scene together in Survival of the Thickest. It's Garcelle Bovay!

Whoa! I'm so excited to be here. Oh, Garcelle, let's get into it. Okay, so I didn't know this. You dated Michael Jordan after meeting him at a photo shoot, and you didn't know who he was. Iconic. Iconic, iconic. Iconic blonde girl moment.

I did not know who he was, but I went in for a fitting. It was for Essence Magazine, and they said, tomorrow you'll be working with, and the way they said it, I should have known who he was, so I just got the feeling when they said, you're working with, right? And I was like, oh my God, that's amazing. And then I called one the feeling when they said, you're working with right. And I was like, oh my God, that's amazing. And then I called one of them on that afternoon and I was talking to her and I said, Oh, so I had a fitting today. I'm working tomorrow with, with Michael Jordan

and my brother, I guess, heard my mother say it. And then he was like, what? Honestly, but I was like 18 and dumb. No, not dumb. I love that so much. I love that you were like, oh yes, Michael Jordan, cool, great. I guess I'll tell someone about it. And then they're like, Garcelle, this is a very famous basketball player.

Hello, obviously I wasn't into basketball. You know what? I love it because people need to be humbled. Okay? He was probably at the top of the world, probably just one, I don't know, a grand slam. I don't, I, who knows? Who knows? And he probably loved it.

But he couldn't have been nicer. He was so nice. So the next day we worked all day and he was into golf and he was like, you know, have you ever played golf? And I was like, no. And he just couldn't have been nicer. He really was, really, really, really great guy. How long did you date?

I mean, I wouldn't say date, we went out a couple of times. Okay, all right. So you're a beautiful person. What's that like? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It definitely helps when you need to get some done. But like, did it affect your dating?

And did men find you intimidating or were men like, oh, she's beautiful. I absolutely got to ask her out. I, you know, a little bit of both. I mean, I think, you know, being a model in New York city, being young and, you know, sure. I mean, in New York, it's the Mecca of beautiful women, I feel like, you know, because everybody comes to New York to come model, right? But has it helped me like get upgraded back in the day? Sure. Has it helped me like, did I double

book once? Two dates? Yeah. How did you, okay, double booking a date, how did that work out? Did you cancel on somebody or did you go to both dates? One was already in the apartment and the other one was coming to the apartment. And I was like, oh my God, I don't feel good. Please don't come up, I'm really sick. Ah!

That's, oh my God, I love it. Also, you lived in like, so you lived with the head of Ford Models, what's her name? Eileen Ford? Eileen Ford. And so, okay, the only thing I know about model housing is from Zoolander, where it was like four grown adult men who love smoothies living in bunk beds.

Is that what model housing was like? No, but that's really funny though. I love that movie. No, when I got signed or when I got discovered with Eileen Ford, she was like, you should come to New York. And she told my mom, she only needs a toothbrush. And I was like, I think I need a little more than that. But anyway, moved to New York,

the model's apartment was full, so I had, so I lived with Eileen Ford and her husband for a couple of months on the Upper East Side. Now coming from Haiti, coming from not knowing what, you know, modeling life was, or you know, who the Fords were, to be in the Upper East Side in the 70s, I mean, like in terms of in the 70s, in terms of like streets and stuff,

it was like, where am I? Am I being punked? Like, it was wild. But I just didn't know the modeling world. I didn't know the Ford agency. I didn't really know much about the industry. So it was all new. And I knew I didn't want to take the subway and one of the other models. All I heard about New York City at the time was that people push people in front of the subway, right? Okay. And so another model had the same go-sees and she's like, Hey, do you want to go together?

And I said, Sure. So I said, I don't want to take the train. She's like, girl, you're in New York City, you got to take the train. So we're standing on the platform. I am scared to death. And I'm like, freak, to take the train. So we're standing on the platform. I am scared to death. And I'm like, I'm screaming inside. And this guy taps me on the shoulder and I screamed bloody murder like I got shot. He wanted to know when does the train come? You're like, I don't know. I don't know when I trade's coming. Just don't push me. And my girlfriend

was really she's like, Yeah, you shouldn't take a subway. So then I couldn't afford cabs or anything like that. So I would take the bus and I would leave like two and a half hours early to make an appointment because, you know, I wasn't taking the train. I was too chicken. That's so funny. That's like, for a while, there was a rumor that she didn't fly anywhere because she was scared of flying and she would take buses places. Yeah.

Oh God, that's so funny. Exactly and she would take buses places. Yeah. Oh, God, that's so funny. Exactly. She would take buses. And then I got discovered on the bus by Suzanne Taylor of Essence Magazine. So I was on the bus and she gets on the bus. Here's a beautiful woman dressed to the nines and braids in her hair. And she sat across from me. And then as she was leaving, she goes, you know, I don't know if you've ever modeled. She gave me her card. And then I ended up on the she goes, you know, I don't know if you've ever modeled. She gave me her card.

And then I ended up on the college issue of Essence Magazine. Oh my, what a dream. I, oh, to be, to be discovered. I love that so much. Wait, I want to hear more about like, so did you end up living in the model housing or no? I did.

Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. Once an availability came that I moved there and then soon enough, I started working. But I got a job, my dad wanted me to come home and he was like, we're not sending you any more money. So I went and got fake ID and worked at the Playboy Club on 59th and Madison.

I was Bunny Garcelle. Had to learn the dip, had to learn the cocktails. We had a bunny mother who had a long cigarette in her mouth that we would go and see her so she could check us out before we went on the floor. It was like, what's life in this? I mean, honestly, iconic. I love that. I also had a fake ID when I lived in New York. Yes, I got it on like, it was right by Times Square. It was like 51st and eighth or something. And it was this like open, bizarre, whatever,

where you can get like t-shirts and stuff. And this guy was like, you look young, you want a fake ID? And I was like, do I? I can't believe this is this easy. Give me a fake ID. Ha ha ha ha ha. That's crazy. I, oh my God.

What did you do with your fake ID? Did you get anywhere? Did you go anywhere? Oh, I went into bars. I went into clubs. I had a nice time. But I want to hear more about, okay, there's so, I have so many questions.

What was it like working at the Playboy, at a Playboy club? It was, I mean, listen, it was a members only, it was 59th and Madison, they really protected us in terms of no one was allowed to touch it. But I made so much money in tips. People would order a beer and give me $100 if I keep change, like, it was stupid.

We had a floor manager, there was different levels. There was a cabaret. I never worked the cabaret, um, floor for whatever reason, but I think it was my seniority and you know, there was a bar, there was a restaurant and, uh, you know, they really kept us protected. It was really kind of cool. It was, and I made, like I said, made so much money. I didn't need to go back home until I started working at the model. What a dream to be like, I'm not coming back home. I'm just gonna get money from these men. These men who all they can do is look at me.

What a, oh! Exactly. Ah, what a dream! So this was in the 70s. So was there a lot of- 80s. Oh, 80s. So by that point, there was like a lot of black women working at the Playboy Club or no? Yes, there was definitely a lot of, oh, 80s. So by that point, there was like a lot of black women

working at the Playboy Club or no? Yes, there was definitely a few. There wasn't a lot, but there were definitely a few black ladies. Yeah. And was there like a standard for your hair at all? Like, I'm just so curious about that. There wasn't really a standard for your hair,

but you had to look, listen, you had to look your best. We wore two sets of pantyhose. We wore like a nude one that kept everything in, like a Spanx would be to say. And then you had a fishnet over it. Okay. And you know, hair and makeup had to be done. And like I said, before you go on the floor,

you got to go through the bunny mutters office so she can say, let me see your nails. Let me see your hair. let me see your makeup. Do you still have the costume? I never gave a costume, I wish I'd stolen one. Oh, I wish you had too. I shouldn't have stolen one. Oh, that would be so iconic.

I'm sure those are so fucking hard to get now. Oh. They're so hard to get. I would love one, putting it out there in the universe. What were ghosties like? Which if you don't know, if you didn't watch Top Model and you don't know what a ghostie is, it's essentially an audition for a model.

What was that like? That was really interesting. First of all, in New York City, I mean, all the buildings were, some elevators you were like, I don't know if I'm gonna come back down. I might get killed upstairs. Yeah, I've been to so many auditions where I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna come back down. I might get killed upstairs. Ah!

Yeah, I've been to so many auditions where I'm like, is this actually real? Is it, are you gonna die? What's gonna happen? And then I see another black woman who looks like me. I'm like, I'm in the right place. Okay, we'll be fine. Yeah, exactly.

So they were, I mean, some were really cool. Some were for fashion shows where you'd go when you'd have to walk and, you know, show them your walk while they look through your portfolio. Some were for fashion shows where you'd go and you'd have to walk and show them your walk while they look through your portfolio. Some were for testing with photographers. But sometimes people wouldn't even give you the time of day. They wouldn't even look up. They'd go through your book and you'd go, thank you.

And it was like, God, it took me two hours to get here. Can you at least look up? Yes. I feel like modeling and acting are one in the same where you're like, all right, I'm going to this audition. I'm not right for this part. I know I'm not right for it. Right.

The description literally says white woman in her fifties. And you're like, well, maybe they'll go black on this black and not 50. And then they don't look up. Right. Auditions in L.A LA where you would like sometimes where you could hear them calling up their agents or calling other managers, you'd be sitting there and then you'd hear them pick up the phone and goes, it's Halle Berry available. And you're like, well, well, I'm not Halle Berry. Why are we doing this? This is not kind to me.

No. Okay. So I just want to hear, do you have any stories about like going out with models? Like did you have any friends who were like wild? Oh my God, we used to go to clubs. We used to go to area Studio 54. Wait, you've been to Studio 54? Yeah. And if you're young and don't know what Studio 54 was, it was opened in like the 70s and

it's where everybody, everybody who is anybody went to party and do cocaine and have sex and look fabulous. Andy Warhol went a lot. Liza Minnelli went. Oh my God, Garcelle, your life. Tell me. Studio 54, excited to go. We're meeting with a bunch of people.

We get there, and we're, I find them. They're sitting at a table, and there's coke on the table. Of course there is. What a dream. What a dream. That's back when people shared. So they offer me, and I'm like, holy shit, what do I do? I don't do anything, but I can't, like, look uncool.

So I got to do something. So I went in to try it and I spilled it. And they were like, never mind. And I thought, thank you, Jesus. You just picked me. Wait, that's so funny. Get this girl out of here. She's so corny.

Get her out of here. Honestly, good advice for people who like, don't wanna try it, but don't wanna like be uninvited. It's like just be the clumsy girl who spills it. And then everyone be like, she's cool. Just don't let her near anything expensive. Just don't let her touch anything. Wait, so Studio 54, who's like, who's like a famous person you got to like dance with or hang out with? I mean, you know, this is the time where like, like, okay, so who did I get? I mean,

if everybody was fabulous, everybody had little skinny outfits on, everybody was skinny, everybody was fabulous. And this is a time like you wouldn't leave your apartment until like 11 o'clock at night. Now somebody invites me and they say dinner's at nine and I go PM. I may be asleep if I'm not already out of the house. So it was fabulous. And then afterwards we'd go have breakfast and you know, it was crazy.

Then we'd go to the club area and the area every night would change and they would have like, you know, like Andy Warhol. I remember Andy Warhol had this big, it was a big square, and it was just his name at the bottom of it. Uh-huh. And that was the art. That was the art. And I stared at it going, am I stopped seeing anything?

Ha-ha! I feel like in the 70s and like Studio 54, like that whole time period, people were just like, I don't know, being fully themselves and being like weird. Like Andy Warhol doing that is like, I dare't know, being fully themselves and being like weird, like Andy Warhol doing that is like, I dare you to say it's not art. I dare you. I dare you. And then I'll tell you why it's art. If it were to sell right now for Christie's, it would be like, it would be so fucking expensive. Oh,

my God, what a dream. Crazy. And then I said to someone, because my son Jay just started modeling and I was thinking, you know how times have changed like as a model, you would travel anywhere. You don't know anybody in that city, you'd get to the airport, somebody would have a sign and you'd go with that person. So many things could have happened. I could have been a sex slave. Uh huh.

Thank you God I'm not. I know. Absolutely. think you got him not? Do you know what I mean? No, absolutely. The level of trust that I had, that you have as a young person, you don't think anything, like it's crazy to me. Oh, I've definitely done like non-union things in New York where they're like, a van will pick you up on 54th and 9th, and I go, great, I'll be there at 5th,

I'll be there. And then I get in a van with some other people and we drive somewhere and you're like, you could take me. I mean, I wouldn't take me I would get somebody better. Somebody who didn't talk as much as me. Oh, I can talk. I can talk. They bring you back there like she talks. She talks way too fucking much. My mother was never she let me like wander

around because she was like, if they take you, they'll bring you back. Yeah. Oh my god. My mother was never, she let me like wander around because she was like, if they take you, they'll bring you back. Um... Yeah, exactly. Oh, my God. And then when did you transition to acting? And when, let's see, Miami Vice was your first show in... Miami Vice was my first thing, yes.

And I did a music video, Peter Wolf and Michael Mann were the director. And that's how I got Miami Vice. Peter Wolf video, I think was called I Need You Tonight. I can't believe I remember that. And I remember they asked me if I could drive and I said, yes, I could. And then when it came down to driving, it was a Ferrari and it was stick shift. And I go, I can't drive a stick shift. No, I didn't learn that. And so they ended up having to tow the car and I pretended that I could drive.

God, that's so funny. I mean, be specific. If you need me to drive a stick, that's different than throwing it and driving, going forward. Right, but you know us too though, as an actor, can you ride a horse? Absolutely, we're back here.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Can you roller skate? Yes, I can. Yes, of course. Can you do a handstand? What? Yeah, all day, every day. You'll do anything to get a job,

and you'll figure it out when you get on set. And they're like, you can't do this. And you're like, well, we can work it out. Teach me how to do it, I do it. Oh. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. So you, oh, you hosted Miss USA in 2024. What was that like?

Did you, do you find hosting to be different than acting? That's a question I get all the time. I love hosting. I mean, I love hosting, especially like talk shows. I first think this was different in terms of, you know, it's miss USA. And, uh, I literally, I was flying back from St. Lucia. We had just wrapped housewives.

All the flights got canceled. I was stuck in Philadelphia. Some housewives were in Miami, some housewives were in Fort Lauderdale. Like we all got stranded, right? And, uh, I find, I go through customs, which was easy. I get my luggage. I'm in Philadelphia and there's no place to drop off my luggage to make the next flight. TSA closed, security closed. I'm freaking out. What do I do? What do I do? Oh my God. I was with one of the producers from My Housewives and we're trying to figure it out. We get an Uber just to take us to In-N-Out so we can get something to eat because we're starving.

It's in the middle of the night, no flights. We get an Uber driver. We pay him 400 bucks to drive me from Philadelphia to New York as we're trying to find flights, as we're trying to find flights because I'm supposed to host USA on Sunday. This is Saturday night at 2am. Oh my god. Oh my god. Finally this Uber driver drives us to Philadelphia. There's one seat left on the plane. I make the flight get on the plane by the grace of God. I'm supposed to be rehearsing for Miss USA at 8 a.m. I'm supposed to get there. I arrive at 12 30 p.m. Go straight to the stage.

They bought me towels, body wash. I literally shower behind stage. Oh! I host Miss USA two hours live with Kelty Knight, who's amazing. We do it, the winner is crowned, everybody's happy. A car is waiting for me. I get back in the car, go back to the airport to head to New York to shoot Survival of the Thickestest season two.

I landed in New York. I landed in New York, go straight to set and work all day. My God, how wild. It was the wildest thing I've ever experienced. I was like, oh, my God. But listen, Miss USA won. Everybody was happy. I mean, she got a crowd. That is truly wild. I've had travel like that and having to work

like off of a plane. And some people don't get it. Oh, I believe you. But I'm like, oh, I'll sleep when I have time or I sleep very well on planes to the point where flight attendants are like, wow, a good little sleeper. I'm like, well, if I don't sleep on this flight,

I'm not gonna sleep, so. Right, let me ask you this. Sometimes I feel like the flight attendants make me't sleep on this flight, I'm not gonna sleep, so... Right. Let me just do this. Sometimes I feel like the flight attendants make me feel bad because I slept through the whole flight. Yes, and I'm like, what do you want me to stay awake for? The, like, the cookies? Well, wake me up for a cookie. Save me a cookie.

The food? I'll eat somewhere else. Sometimes it's like you slept the whole time. I'm like, I'm tired. Yes, leave me alone. Do not shame me just because you have to be awake. This is your job. That's why you're awake. Right.

Garcelle, real quick, we have to take a break. ["The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"] Bebop, boobop, we're back. Okay, so Real Housewives, you were the first black woman to be on the Real Housewives Beverly Hills. That's fun, I love that. How did you, did they ask you to do it

or was that something you pursued? No, they asked me to do it. They asked me to do it and my manager called me and he said, hey, listen, Beverly Hills is interested in you and we're gonna pass, but I'm just telling you because you know everybody. And I go, give me a minute.

And he goes, Carousel, this is not for you. This is gonna kill your career. You're doing well. Like we got up and passed and I said, no, no, no, no. Give me a couple of days. I don't think he understood, but what was happening at the time in my life was everything I was shooting as an actor was not shot in LA. My boys were about to go to middle school and I only have them a

week on because, you know, I share them with their dad. So I was like, I need a job that keeps me in LA. I need a job before sex, drugs and rock and roll starts knocking at the door because the middle schoolers, I need to be here more. And so two days later, I called back my manager and I was like, I want to take this meeting. And again, he was like, don't do it girl, don't do it. And I'm glad I did. Honestly, I'm glad I did. Has it been tough? Yes. Is it a hard job?

Absolutely. But it keeps you in LA. And that's nice. I think that's like a really beautiful thing that you were like, I don't know if this is something that like I necessarily really, really want, but like maybe I can figure it out while I'm here with my boys.

Like that's, I like that. Exactly, exactly. So then, you know, obviously I had to talk with my ex-husband, I had to talk with the boys. And, you know, I always felt like, especially with Beverly Hills, the kids were sort of in the background. If they were, if you were at the house, they would see them.

And then, and as they got older, you know, they got into a lot of it, which was not great for us, you know, and it's been tough. No, I get it. Honestly, some of it's been really tough. Being a kid and having a camera in your face in your home is like, huh, well, yeah, because you're like trying to figure out who you are. And then it's like, well, I have to figure out who I am and then who I am on camera. And it's like, it's me but a personality me. I yeah, I get that as a

kid. Like that's, yeah, that's a little intense, I think. So yeah, it was definitely easier when they were younger. I mean, this is my fifth season, although it feels a lot longer. But yeah, now that they're teenagers, it's a little tougher. Is dating tough being on Real Housewives? Are people, are men trepidicious about it? Yeah, men are definite. I mean, like, the kind of quality guy that I want,

I don't want him also to want to be on a reality show. Sure, I get that. Is there an option to be like, my, I'm dating somebody and they don't want to be on a reality show. Sure, I get that. Is there an option to be like, my I'm dating somebody and they don't want to be on camera? I don't know, because I haven't done that. I the first time I brought the first time I brought someone on with my first season and we were dating. So and he was OK with it. But that didn't last.

And since then, there really hasn't been anybody that But that didn't last. And since then, there really hasn't been anybody that's been on the show or wanting to be. I get that. It's hard. It is hard. And I also think a lot of the scrutiny under the cameras and the lights and the relationship is really tough.

Like, I think most of us are single now. Even the ones that are married are either going through something or. Mm hmm. I mean, it does put like a little bit of pressure on it because it's like, OK, we now have as a couple have to decide what's public and what's private. And that, yeah, that gets to be a lot. Right. And I have an issue with the husbands that talk a lot in the show. Like it's about the women.

It's about the women. Like, it's about the women. It's about the women. So let it be about that. So a lot of the husbands that jump in and, you know, it's tough to watch sometimes. No, I absolutely get that. Can you tell me about when you went out with Larry David? Oh, Larry David. Larry David, I did curb your enthusiasm

and I would always, you know, see him at events and, and then he asked me out. And it's so funny because I remember, I don't know if he had a phone on him or whatever. And he said, give me your number. And I said, are you going to remember it? And he goes, yeah. And I told him my number and I thought, oh, he's never going to remember it and he goes yeah and I told him my number and I thought oh he's never gonna remember that and we're leaving for valet and as he's getting in his car he turns around and I was waiting for valet and he mailed my number wow that's really funny I like that why wouldn't I

go out with Larry David I love curb your enthusiasm I love his sense of humor so we made dinner plans and then I sent him, I was like, can we do it in Sherman Oaks? I live in the Valley. And the entire time we were at dinner, he complained that he had to get on the floor by. I love it. I love it.

True to who he is. I was geographically unattractive. God, that's so funny. I love that he mouthed your number at you. Like that man got game. To show me that he remembered it. That's game. Oh my God. Exactly.

Ooh, Larry David. That is wild. Yeah, it was pretty funny. Oh my God, I'm obsessed with that. Have you been on dating apps at all? I have, you know, I go on and then I don't with that. Have you been on dating apps at all? I have, you know, I go on and then I don't feel right. And then I, you know, I tried Raya. I know too many people on Raya.

It's either actors that I know or managers that I know, agencies that I know. So that didn't work out. And then I went, I did, I tried Bumble. And because the women have to make the first move, it didn't feel right. And me, Steve Ash told me you got to take a Sunday, have a bottle of wine. She goes, you have to be intentional. And I'm like, I don't want to be intentional about that.

But I did go on this app where a friend of mine promised me, well, this woman, I know this girl and she promised me, she goes, you got to go on it, you got to go on it. It's all CEO men, it's all high-end men. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to do it. I'm going to try it. I'm going to try it. So I went on it and it was like $399 a week.

What? A week? A week. And I thought, God, it must be amazing. CEO was like, and so I joined and I'm like, I told her I would do it. Let me do it. You know, like I spent that on a stupid outfit, right? I don't know, a pair of jeans.

And so I went on it and I was like, I don't feel right. I'm not doing this. So I was like, I don't feel right. I'm not doing this. So I get off, I get off the app. So months, months, months later, I'm going through my phone and my son, Jax comes down and I go, hey, can you, I'm trying to get off this app, this other app. And he goes, he takes my phone and he goes, mom,

why are you paying for all these apps? You're on a dating app? And I go, no, I was on one. He goes, no, you're on a dating app? And I go, no, I was on one. He goes, no, you're on one. And I look, $6,000 later. Six thousand dollars. Girl, I almost threw up. Oh my, what?

Not one D for $6,000 by the way. That is truly wild, truly wild. If I was paying, if I paid $6,000 on an app, I simply would be like, one of these CEOs has to reimburse me. I'm gonna go on one date and I want them to reimburse me. I need to recoup what I have put into this. So I got my business manager on it.

So they gave me app back. And I was like, I cannot believe this. I cannot believe this. But recently I don't really check my DMs, which I get a lot of flack for that. Cause my girlfriend's like, go on your DM. Apparently that's where it is. Brad Pitt could be, you know, apparently that's where it is. I never go. But I did the other day, this guy was like, he heard this story and he said,

I'll give you the $6,000 back if you go to dinner with me. I think you should. That's an investment. $6,000 on a first date. I mean. You don't have to do anything on a first date, but eat dinner. And then you could change your phone number. You could change everything about you. You just recouped that loss.

And then you've made money because they already gave you half of it back. So then you're up $3,000. I love the way you think. I love the way you think. Oh my God. What's one of the worst states you've been on? The worst date I owe this guy came and I had a feeling that he was already drinking. Yes. And because I knew him through a friend, normally, I don't give you my address. I meet you the first, you know, a couple of days. And so I knew him through a friend. So I

felt okay. So he came to pick me up. And, and by the time we got to dinner, he had six drinks. Oh, and was slurring was sloppy. And I was like, I did the, oh, oh my God, I don't feel good. But you know what? Don't you, don't miss out on dessert. You have dessert. I am going home and I called my friend and I was just like, who did you set me up with? Like he's a drunk. Like if I had, I should have called like, I don't know, called the car for him,

but I was just like, I'm out of here. He, I mean, obviously. No, that's not your problem anymore. Six drinks at dinner is honestly unhinged. Like, did he eat a single thing? Six drinks is a lot. That's crazy. I was actually counting them.

I was like, oh my God, oh my God. How do I get out of this? How do I get out of this? How do I get out of this? Were they mixed drinks or was it martinis? No, they were mixed drinks. Okay, that's at least better. But I couldn't believe he kept on ordering. That's wild.

Oof, oof, oh my God, I can have another one of cyber beer. That's too much. I also, when I date, don't tell people where I live and don't let them pick me up to like the third, fourth date. But I let this man pick me up once and I got into his car and it was the filthiest car I have ever been in in my whole life. I was like, I was like, oh, okay, yeah,

there's a lot of cans here. And he was like, yeah, you know, I'll just like throw them in the back. And he was like, yeah, you know, I'll just like throw them in the back. And I was like, yeah, just throw them in the back. But I couldn't believe that this person, a nice man, would pick you up. Yes, we can meet there.

If your car is that fucking filthy, meet me somewhere. Don't make me ride along in this garbage can of a car. What are we doing? No. That's horrible. Yes, we did not go out again because I was like, this is disgusting. I was like, thank you. It was lovely to meet you.

No, thank you. But I don't really find, I don't feel a spark, which is something I've had to say to people, which sounds kind of corny to be like, oh, I didn't find a spark, but I don't like ghosting people. I don't either. I don't either. I usually say, I don't think there's any chemistry between us. Oh, that's better than a spark. But people don't dating, coaches say,

you know, chemistry can happen over time. If it's not the first day, go again. I don't know. I feel like if you don't feel it, you don't feel it. I... So if I don't feel it on the first date, and I... But I feel something. I go, there's something about this person.

I will go out with them again. Especially if they're not in entertainment, because I go, oh, this person might be a little boring. But then I'm like, wait, they're not an actor, they're not a comedian, they're just a normal person. And... And I'm putting on a show. Yes. And like, some of my best friends

are some of the funniest people you've ever met. So it's like, I can't hold people I go on dates with to that level. I have to go, wait, what is your funny? How are you funny? Do you find me funny? Because I've gone out with men who did not find me funny.

And ooh, baby, that simply doesn't feel good. I can't imagine that. I can't imagine. What are your deal-breakers? My deal-breakers? You can't be rude. You can't cheat. Yes. Yeah. I cheat, rude, and yeah, like you, you have to have a sense of humor. I don't want a guy who's so serious and boring. And I really don't want a guy who takes naps every day either. Oh. Yeah, why do you have time to take a nap every day?

Why do you have time to take a nap? That's so funny. Why do you have time to take a nap? Do you need to go to work? Do you need to work a little bit more, make a little more money? What you doing? Yeah. I had a guy call me at noon on a Monday, and he's like, what are you doing?

I was like, what are you doing? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I had a guy call me at noon on a Monday and he's like, what are you doing? I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm unemployed. Just filing my unemployment, not doing a single thing. That's so funny. He called me at noon. I was like, no. Have you ever been cheated on? Yes, my ex husband.

The way you said it. Yes. My ex husband. I mean, listen, haven't there been boyfriends? Yes. But that was like the most, you know, devastating wall. Yeah, I can't imagine getting cheated on or cheating. I've talked about this on the podcast. I tell people all my business. So if I cheat on somebody, I absolutely would be like, oh my god, guess what I did today? I cheated on you. And they'd be like, wait, what? I'd be like, yeah, I'm real sorry about it.

It was an accident. I'm so sorry. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho fell on the D. I just fell right on that deck and I'm so sorry about it. I mean, yeah, I mean, it happens, right? But my thing is, I feel like I would rather know that you want to. Mm hmm. Then I might be like, okay, maybe if you're going to do it, I might do it too. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yes. I would like to know that, listen, things aren't feeling right. I'm attracted to somebody else. Wouldn't that be nice? I also would love if you could, if a girl, a woman, could talk to someone's ex. Ooh. Not to get all the dirt, but wouldn't that be cool if we could do that?

Yes. I, okay, I used to have a joke about it, about having Yelp reviews. Well, I used to have a joke about it, about having Yelp reviews. Well, I used to have a joke about having Yelp reviews for men, where it's like you could just find them on Yelp and see all the reviews. And then you could be like, well, he did that to me too. So I guess that's just how this person acts. That's how he rolls. Yes.

I would love the Yelp review. Wait, okay. Are you the type of person when you start dating somebody, you go through like their social media, find their ex to see if they like look like you? Or if you're prettier than them? Because that's semi. I don't do that. I try not to Google someone. First of all, I want to know that you have some kind of footprint, right? Because I heard once a psychologist say,

this person doesn't have any footprint on any social media, anything, he's probably the killer, right? So I go by that rule. So I need to know something, but I don't want to know everything. I once went on a date with a guy and it was like, I didn't even need to be there because he had Googled me, knew this, knew that, knew this. And it was just like what are you gonna get from me? Why am I even here? So I don't like to do a deep dive but I'd like to see

like a little bit of your life. How do you handle that? Because you are very very famous so how do you handle, how do you like men to approach that? Do you like for them to be like, hey, I know I've seen you in X, Y, and Z. Or do you like for them to just like, for you to say something and be like, oh yes, I did know that. I'd rather that.

I'd rather me tell you about me than you going down a rabbit hole and checking everything out. And then it's like, well, what do I have to add to this? I also prefer that. Cause I've gone on dates with men who are like, I don't know who you are. And then later we'll be like, well, what do I have to add to this? I also prefer that, because I've gone on dates with men who are like, I don't know who you are, and then later will be like,

but I know this and I know that and I know this. And I'm like, oh, well then you didn't have to open with, you didn't know who I was. That's not, that doesn't seem truthful. Also, it's not nice. But a real treat is like when, because I've been on dates with people where I go, oh, I was recording all day.

And they're like, oh, what were you recording? And then I'm like, oh, I have a podcast. And I'm like, oh, do you listen to podcasts? And they're like, oh, yeah, I do. And I know you had one, but I just, you know, I want you to tell me things. And I'm like, oh, okay. Oh, all right.

I mean, dating is weird. Yes, it is. And it's also vibes. Like someone who I didn't like could do that. And I could be like, I hate you. And then, but then it's like, if I like you, it's like, well, I like that. So it's truly just, what do I like?

Okay, I went to lunch. I met a guy for lunch and he showed up in flip flops and that was eternal. Garcelle, that's nasty. You put them toes away. Toes are for the beach, toes are for the pool. Toes are for a boat, toes are not for a date. That is sick.

That is the sickest thing. That's a deal breaker for me. If your toes are out. And I hotel by a pool. No, no, no, no, no. No, not the first day. Don't come and touch the flip flops. No.

That's nasty, where the toes at least like groomed. I didn't wanna look. That's so funny, because that's another thing. Men's feet are nasty sometimes. Hey, I didn't wanna look. I was like, oh, why? Why would you do that? Ugh, that is honestly.

But on some cool sneakers, but on some whatever. Anything, anything, put the dogs away. What was the rest of the ensemble? Was he wearing pants or shorts? He was wearing shorts. Ugh, put your legs away. It's a date. Oh, ha ha ha.

Put your legs away. The grossest thing, my ick with men is the toes out with flops, shorts while at an airport. You're going to put your nasty little legs all over a seat, your little toes are out, we're going into the bathroom with your toes out. Garcelle, it's upsetting. Tis upsetting. It's very upsetting.

And we need an intervention. Yes, we do. Wait, what's one of the most romantic dates you've ever been on? Oh, I went on a date with this guy. Dinner was lovely at this beautiful restaurant, candlelit and everything. And the next day, he had his assistant call me and asked me for my passport number and that he was going to surprise me and take me on a trip. Now this was one dinner. Oh, wait, okay. So I couldn't commit to that. That is a little wild, but I'm wild. It's a little much. I would have absolutely given my passport number.

I would have said, oh, absolutely. How are we getting there? Is it a private jet? Are we flying first class? If it's economy, I'm not going. But if we're flying first class or it's a jet, oh, you better believe. Wait, how did you turn him down? Did you tell the assistant no? I just said, I don't know you put up.

I said, I don't know. I don't feel comfortable with that. We just had one dinner. Yeah, but how are you gonna get to know him, if not in the air? Oh, ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm inclined. Ha ha.

Going to, and he was gonna take me to Thailand. What? Why didn't you go? Oh my God, Garcelle. I know, I'm a mother. I have little kids. Fair, fair, I get it. You have responsibilities. I don't have kids. I'll leave, I get it. You have responsibilities. I don't have kids. I'll leave, I'll leave in a heartbeat.

You want to take me somewhere? I'm going. I'm like that Rugrats song. Take me there, I want to go there. Take me to that great place. I want to go. Oh my God. Wait, after one day, Garcelle,

you must be an amazing conversationalist. My God. I don't know what I was. I don't know what happened to him. Oh, my God, I can't. And now if I had a Yelp review, maybe that would have, right? Yes, because there would have been other women

that was like, he took me to Vietnam, and it wasn't fun. And then I came back. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, he took me to Paris, and he fucking sucked. He only wanted to stay in the hotel room and watch TV. I hate him. But I do wish I could like talk to exes and be like,

what went wrong? Why did y'all break up? And I don't need to know every detail, but just something. Just a little something. What's wrong with this person? I wonder, oh my God, Garcelle, what do you think your exes would say about you?

I would love to know even that, because then I can improve. If I got a four star, maybe how do I work to get a five star? It's like an Uber rating, right? I would actually love, I would actually love for a guy to say what he thought of me afterwards. I really would, honestly.

Like, is she too bossy? Is she too focused on work? Did she not give a good BJ? Which I pride myself on a good BJ, by the way. I pride myself on a good BJ. I love how demure I'm using it. I love how demure you are about it. A good BJ.

I would be devastated if someone was like, I'm using it. I love how demure you are about it. A good BJ. I would be devastated if someone was like, she gives a bad blowjob. I would like, because I pride myself. I think I'm really good at it. And if someone was like, actually, it wasn't that great. I would probably have an identity crisis. I would be like, wait, me? Not good?

But I love popsicles and I'm trained for this? I, what? I'd be so sad. I would like to get that review. I would. I'm pretty sure my review would be like, she teehee's too much, she's not very serious. I don't really know anything about her

because I have walls up until, or I used to. When I, I guess maybe like three or four years ago when I dated, I would have a wall up and be like, you have to break through this wall to get to know me. But the older I get, the less I'm like, walls, there are no walls. This is what you're getting. This is it. You get what're getting. This is it.

This is it. This is it. I get it. I get it. I will be annoying. I talk so much. I went on a date with somebody and they were like, God, I thought I talked a lot.

Then I met you. And I was like, wow. Oh, wow. I would take that as an insult, but I do know I be yapping. That's me. but I do know I be yappin'. That's me! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha in 2022 called Love Me As I Am. What was it like writing a book? Was it hard?

I tried writing, or not tried, I wrote a book, but it was hard. It was hard. It was hard because you're like, how much do I want to share? Do I share everything? Do I talk about... I mean, that's the scariest part. And then when you put it out there, you're like, are people gonna read it? Are people gonna like it?

Like, what if only one person buys it? But you still get your advance. You still, yeah. I was scared out of my mind because it's like, you know, I'm an open book. I talked about everything I talked about, you know, my divorce and finding out my husband was cheating and, and, and it's like, Oh, do I want to revisit that? And one day the kids going to read, I talk about being really good about

Giving a BJ. Mm-hmm. I'm like, but one day my kids gonna read this book. That was the hardest part It's like how much do I share? Will my kids ever read it, you know? Yeah, I ended up being truthful and talking about it all and I just hope they don't read it or if they read it It's when I'm dead Well, I'll say this. Your kids knowing that you give a good BJ, I think is okay, only because it's like how they get here.

Obviously it wasn't the stork who dropped them off and it wasn't by osmosis that they appeared. It's like you had a whole life before them and you're still a sexual being after them. So I think it's fine. Okay, good. That's just me though. I'm relieved.

Do they? Yeah. But listen, they're gonna read it if they want to. But also probably not, you're their mother. Like why read a book about their mom when they can just ask their mom questions? Right, exactly, right, right. You have three kids or two kids? I have three kids, three boys, three boys. And then two are twins? I couldn't buy a girl. mom questions. Right. Exactly. Right. Right.

You have three kids or two kids? I have three kids. Three boys. Three boys. And then two are twins? I couldn't buy a girl. I have twins. What was it like having twins?

I wanted a girl so bad. Oh my God. The first year, I remember I'd wake up in the middle of the night and I'd sit up and I'd look at the clock and it was like 3 15. I went in. I fed, changed diaper, back to sleep, came back in the bed, went to sleep, and I heard a cry. I woke up and looked at the clock.

It was 345. Oh no. And it was the other one. I was just like, oh, I mean, it was so hard. But I tried having them for a long time, went through IVF, went through the whole thing. But I was hoping when they said you're going to have twins, I was like, oh my God, that's amazing. I'm going to for a long time, went through IVF, went through the whole thing, but I was hoping when they said, you're gonna have twins, I was like, oh my God, that's amazing.

I'm gonna have a girl. I'm such a girly girl. I think I'm gonna have a girl. And so we go for the ultrasound and they were like, we see two penises. I burst into tears. Oh no. My husband at the time was like, are you gonna be okay?

And I was like, I don't know. I was a mess. But you know, I would change for anything. But my older son is about to have a girl, so I'm excited. Oh, see that's, wait, you're going to be a grandma? I'm already a grandma. I'm going to be a grandma twice. Oh, wait, what do your grandchildren,

or what does your grandchild call you? Grandma, it's so basic, but I love it. No, it's not. There's something. It's so basic, but I love there's something about the respect and the honor, except we were at the Grove around Christmas and we were at this, you know, I have all boys, so we're at this really cool, like I think OBO, OBO, whatever it's called, really cool store for men. And these two good looking guys walked in and I was like, wow. And then I heard my son, Oliver go, go to grandma.

And I was like, shut up. The grandma. God, that's so funny. It's like, no, not right now. I'm happy to be your grandmother at home. Not in front of these mans. Well, because I feel like some grandmas are like, call me glam-ma or like glammy.

And I'm just like, why? Why? Grandma, granny? Like, I don't know. I think it's cute. It's nice. I do too. And you know what? It's sweet and it's an honor, so. I think about having children sometimes. I don't want them. Do you? Oh. No. I don't want them because I can't imagine someone calling me mom cuz I'm like I'm Nicole

My name is Nicole. My name is now mom you get to rename me That's true, it's It's a life long Journey because even when they're old enough to be out of the house, they still, you know, they still call you, they still need you. My boys are just starting to drive. So this morning, Jack said to me, Mom, can I drive to school? And I thought, yeah, sure. We hit a mailbox. He hit a mailbox. He hit a mailbox. I'm like, you're too close to the car. Yeah, I'm like, you're too close to the car. Because at one point, I'm like, pull over here so we can now switch. And I was like, Jack, you're too close to the car. You know, car people could open their doors.

You don't know. So I go pull over here and we're gonna switch. Maybe not driving to school. Maybe after school. Wait, that's so funny. Did you have to like go and tell the people? You're like, hello, it's me, Garcelle Bovay. My son hit your mailbox and I'm so sorry. By the way, I was in pajamas

because it's really not that far. I wasn't driving. God, that's so funny. Oh my God. I was just like, yeah, we're not going to drive to school, but we'll drive after school. We'll drive any other time when we're not pressed for time. I remember driving with my mom once and we saw a neighbor and I was like, oh, and I started waving at them and then the car started meandering towards them and my mother was like, eyes on the road, eyes on the road. And then they got scared and I was like, oh no, am I going to hit somebody? Oh, good times.

Yeah, good times. Yeah, that's why you hire people to, you know, show them how to drive. Yes. Wee Garcelle, I have one last question or two last questions, three last questions. You dated Eddie Murphy. How long did you date Eddie Murphy? last questions. You dated Eddie Murphy? How long did you date Eddie Murphy? We dated a few months before. Oh, well, I, you know, I did come into America, you know, every beautiful girl was on that set. Um, and we dated for a little bit. Yeah, he was amazing. He was really nice. I want to date someone famous. It sounds fun. That's one question. Second question. Listen, I don't know. Second question. Do

you have any advice for single people? No, look, girl, I'm trying to figure it out. Love yourself. I know people say that all the time. And I'm like, you know, this is what I think, because I've been single for a minute. And people go, you must have to you have to release something. You have to. And I'm like, there are people who are holding on to baggage bigger than that and you can know what, and they're dating. So why do I need to release something in order to date? Like, what am I releasing? I forgive all the bastards that I've dated.

I've forgiven myself for dating them. I work on myself, I think I'm a nice human being. I try to treat people how they you know How they should be treated how I would like to be treated. So like what the hell So I have no advice just love yourself. I I mean, honestly, I think that's the best advice I don't know. I don't fucking know how to do it. Love yourself I think that's really great advice because it's like if you love yourself. Enjoy your life Don't sit around waiting for someone.

Enjoy your life while you're, you know, while you're doing the thing. Yeah, go out and do the dumb thing. Do it alone. Do the dumb thing. Take a friend, whatever. Okay, Garcelle, here's a question I ask everyone. I've only missed it a couple times.

Would you date me? Yes. Oh, yay! I'm curious. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Carisle, thank you so much for being here. Do you have anything that you wanna promote? I actually don't right now and I'm fine with that.

Pfft. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Housewives coming out in November, I think. Oh, okay. And then Survival of the Thickest, you're in season two. That just wraps, so look for that. Thank you, too. Probably 2025. I mean, I'm producing Thickest, you're in season two, that just wrapped, so look for that probably 2025. Mm-hmm. I mean, I'm producing things,

so, you know, I'll come back. Okay. I love it. Garcelle, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. I adore you. Keep shining, babe. I adore you. And, okay, if you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me, you can like it, you can rate it, you can subscribe.

And if you write me a dirty message to whywon'tudatepodcast at gmail.com, I'll read it. And it has to be nasty. Okay, Nicole, I wanna pick you up in my Mitsubishi Outlander, AKA my Mitsubishi name Joan, and take you to my favorite hilltop park in Minneapolis for a picnic. When we find a nice grassy spot on the hill,

we'll lay down a nice lavender gingham blanket. Then we'll start unpacking the basket of delicious food that I definitely probably totally cooked for us. But as we both reach for the pasta salad, our fingers accidentally touch and we both blush. Then we immediately get horny. We quickly disrobe and begin initiating coitus, doggy style.

Luckily for us, I thought it was a bottle of white wine turned out to be lube, but as I'm pounding you in the tush, your pussy juices start flowing from being so turned on. And all of a sudden we have a stream going down the hill. Then with one great big thrust, I yell, tally-ho! And then we, ha ha ha ha, then we ride down the hill on your punami tsunami like a giant slip and slide. We crash at the base of the hill and come all over the place, covering the grass with

a nice white blanket of semen and squirt. Winter came early. Then we spend the rest of the afternoon making gooey snow angels and staring at the clouds. Well! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Well, that was fun. Bye bye! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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